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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: so we've got the camera running here also in the little camera i'd like to just say a couple of words that uh filming prisoners of war although aiden is i will say this as it is a mercenary uh there are protocols governing that as per the geneva convention i shall be adhering not only to them uh given that aidan is as i say a mercenary those don't necessarily apply but because we're all good nice polite people here we shall adhere to not only the protocols and the covenants of the geneva convention but also this will be uploaded to youtube so the applicable youtube guidance ada would just like to confirm that you're speaking of your own will there's not been any pressure or anything like that you are feds waters basically that you agree to yeah i agree to this i asked for this so this is of your own will yeah and there's not going to be any coercion your answers should be taken as your truthful representation of your actual position there's gonna be no exertion of any coercion or anything anything like that uh i would like to pass on in the first case uh uh that your family have also been concerned about your sister sharon gates yeah and so your mother is it angela yeah angela uh have also been very concerned uh about you so that's been in the in the media a lot from why someone to say that you're uh you're a lucky guy and this is basically a week in captivity isn't it yeah um i'd say lucky say the least [Music] probably extremely lucky um to be alive considering the situation that happened in mariupol i mean really basically if you look at the i don't know if you've seen the videos i know you've been quite active online uh but can you describe any of the videos you've seen of when russian soldiers have been taken captive by ukrainian soldiers and what's happened to them from the videos i've seen online of russian soldiers being captured um ukrainian soldiers haven't adhered to the geneva convention there's been a lot of war crimes after taking place like from what i've seen um a lot of it's down to uh the nazi groups like azov battalion and right sector and a lot a lot of nationalists as well um from what what i can see see on this election let's get down to the nitty-gritty we're talking about absolute barbarism talking about videos of russian soldiers servicemen killed by stabbing them in the eyes tortured mutilated slaughtered yeah by your colleagues your comrades aiden i mean come on i i don't promote this like if i ever saw anyone doing anything like that i'll try to intervene because first and foremost like just just because it's the enemy they shouldn't be treated any less than once once they drop their rifle and then that's them finished and i think the people that do do these crimes they they should be punished to the fullest extent um which with the ukrainian military i doubt they're going to even care about it i mean we're talking about i would say there's no words to describe people like that but we're talking about ukrainian soldiers and i'm going to use a few choice words to describe them animals scumbags barbarians your comrades aiden what are we talking about here how's this ended up that you're on that side i i made stupid choice i easily misread the information and joined the wrong side you know you've ever seen i don't even see a sketch by mitchell and webb uh they're dressed up in uh in narcissistic uniforms oh yeah i've seen that but once i said i said are we the bad guys yeah after mario pool because of my situation during the operation like we were in mariupol um it wasn't until this whole operation started that i started realizing to the extent of like the reality of like ukraine um i mean you're a 28 year old man from nottingham you came over can you give a little background as to how you came to join ukrainian forces i believe it was at the 36th marine yeah yeah the first battalion force to marine brigade how you came to join when and what motivated you to do that um so i first came to ukraine back in uh february 20 2018. previously before that i was in syria in kurdistan with the kurds and i had met someone who was previously in ukraine and and before this point i was pro-russian pro donbass i've like been following accounts such as yourself since the very beginning and then when i was in syria i had met this acquaintance who was also in ukraine had a few political debates with him and eventually like he managed to like tell me about like information and then show me stuff and then obviously a lot of it was like misle misleading information so i i was easily misled um so you were at the time in your mid-20s impressionable yeah in professional wars now okay and you ended up but there comes a point okay then uh there comes a point that now you've ended up where you are and obviously i know you've appealed to the british government and it's easy from where you are to renounce everything from the position that you've ended up in but there comes a point you must accept responsibility for the decision of course of course the responsibility must be accepted um for me though i'm i'm just saying when when this operation started uh the days before it i never i never agreed with ukraine's decision to um if you remember uh russia recognized donbass and lehanska's independence lugansk as independent and i i'd always wanted it to just finished and i thought given the circumstances ukraine would do the appropriate choice but they you've been serving for years in the ukrainian army yeah now obviously you know you're socially uh aware in terms of social media and all the rest of it so in that time you must have surely done some research looked on google checked out the azov battalion for example yeah you must have seen the the signs that they wear the wolf's angle you must have worked out that these guys are nazis um previously we had never really worked closely with as of like up until we came to mariupol um like one when like on a day in mario pool was just the amount of uh destruction and it was one of the videos i saw one of the other journalists that was in mario pool where as of were driving down the street like using civilian buildings for cover like while there's active fighting going on um it was then like i started to change my opinion i've always thought they were like like far right but i tried to convince myself maybe maybe it will change for the better but uh especially after the base was taken and like the amount of like nazi paraphernalia that was like found there like it's blatantly obviously they're just nazis i'm gonna give you the opportunity then uh from brit to brits uh in your own words your relationship now and what should people in the uk know and how should they relate to the ozone battalion the azov battalion which is a battalion of the ukrainian armed forces yeah um so for those unaware that don't don't follow the news or anything as of italian basically was created in 2014 um i believe it's its leader um i can't remember his name andrei belinsky he's uh connected to like very like far right like neo-nazi organizations um he steps away officially but like if you if you look hard enough you can see like he's actually still in control and the majority of the members we're nazi symbols yeah the chat nancy salutes the salutes and the uh the as of uh the wolf's angel the wolf single um they wear that proudly um a lot of the traditions they do is also traditions from like nazi military traditions and that they try to reenact um so surely at some point you've got to where you are where you're in captivity but you are lucky to be alive and there can be people watching this from all over the uk okay so you've got to where y'all but surely there were so many steps along the way that you could have of your own will said look i'm not being part of this i'm not fighting with what are i'm not putting words in your mouth i'm simply stating objective facts i'm not fighting with nazis yeah it's just i just never came into contact them with them until like twist situation came into play i was hoping to to like finish my contract and go home to leave ukraine with my wife but this war happened because ukraine khan doesn't want peace okay so along the way you then obviously are in service military service can you describe your duties and your experience of combat and what exactly and honestly hearing what exactly you've done uh as a military as a serving member of the ukrainian armed forces so for the past three years uh first i was in 137th uh battalion in 35th brigade um i was in infantry for approximately five five or six months roughly um i was gonna for capita we didn't really do much because because of situation on contact lines so we rotated um for a few months and then i put a request in to transfer to the 36th brigade first battalion upon arrival i i was put into aerosol company we did some training uh we did our jumps from helicopter and then we rotated to the front lane annually and then last year i signed a a year extension onto my contract with mortar company basically my duty was to prepare the mortars uh and then give them to the fire um so they can fire it um so that's that's what i've been doing for the past six months uh so for the past six months you'd be preparing artillery which has then been fired yeah and where has that been fired um this this was in the village of pavlipo like where we were stationed so we were firing it at uh like enemy positions when you say enemy positions uh hey didn't you send me positions but we are now in the city of donetsk where for the last eight years ukrainian forces have been shelling not enemy positions but civilians yeah killing thousands of civilians children for eight years so you're telling me that you think that you were shelling military positions and yet for eight years your colleagues have been openly in fact glorifying and celebrating in shelling in killing and inflicting untold misery and suffering on the people of donetsk as i said before because we were mostly stationed in the south like i never really knew what the reality of like the situation was up here um we were mostly based around the public area um one once the first day of the operation started um my commander asked me to well they told everyone to go to like battle stations um i i told my commander i'm not firing i wanted dessert um he said okay you can go um at that time it was pretty impossible so when did you say you wanted to dessert the first day of the operation so this is february 24th yeah and what motivated that i didn't want this war um i i was hoping previously upon the build-up like uh something peaceful might happen um but that never happened um and then once once we were pushed back within a day we were pushed back to the village of uh zara i think it's pronounced i'm not sure uh mario paul yeah yeah no for mariupo and again i asked my commander like i want to leave like can i can i leave he said yeah you can leave the only problem was i couldn't find any transport to to leave so so what most of this motivated this you've been serving for years and then you want to you want to leave but then you keep fighting on how did i just can't quite you know believe that probably if i'm being honest so up until like six months ago i signed a new contract like for one year extension because my my wife isn't make a life and at that time i didn't realize we'd be doing another rotation because we'd literally just come back from one uh like six months before so as far as i was where we would be doing like guard duty and like training and nicolaite and then after like two months my commander told me told all of us to get ready to go for rotation so then that happened um and then slowly like we had the whole uh incident with uh like russian politics and like western politics and watching this slowly like it it was like aiming for like a possible uh scenario of conflict but there was always every opportunity that ukraine was given to like like uh de-escalate they blatantly ignored right ukraine had eight years to recognize the republic um to recognize the results of the referendum in 2014. my biggest my biggest problem with the ukrainian authorities was the recognization uh recognition of crimea's russian territory because as you said it's been eight years like regardless of what anyone thinks tell me whose territory is crimea russian and the donetsk and the ligands people's republics uh independent like donbass peoples and uh legansk um like they've had eight years like this war's been going for eight years the azov battalion i'm going to hit this point again how to describe the azov battalion fanatics criminals nazis okay i mean you're but you accept that you're lucky yeah i'm lucky and i'm i'm grace uh grateful and how's your uh how's your detainment how's your detention can you describe your circumstances your situation it's been good it's better than what i was expecting it to be um like for the past like month uh month and a half when we were under siege um i was basically on guard duty in in our battalion headquarters because of my previous attempt to desert and the reaction of a lot of the ukrainians that were serving alongside me were mostly ignorant or didn't want to accept the fact that we will lose this battle which i told them we won't win like we should just surrender already and how did you come to be taken into captivity so on i think it was last last monday um the the remaining ukrainian forces our commander came to us previously because they've been preparing the uh vehicles with armored shielding and basically our commander came to us and he gave us three options he said uh eva you can you can try walking out and try sneaking out somehow or you can go in the military convoy which is being modified with armor and stuff to try and break through or free you can surrender to russian and dnr forces i chose number three because i'm not an idiot and i know what the situation is so you ended up with no food with no nothing didn't you yeah the ukrainian military like left us um my my humble opinion like about marijuana is we should have left it like gone left on bus when we were given the opportunity but instead all commanders told us to stay in marijuana and do it to the last man which is uh reckless in the uk aiden uh as we've discussed your family are worried about you'd like to give you the opportunity to say some words to camera to speak directly to cameron to your family um so diane my wife um i want you to know like i love you and i i hope that the british government is able to uh push this prisoner exchange so that i can return to you and we can build our life in britain um my my mother my brother and rest of my family i i also love you and i hope to see you guys soon hopefully um if this exchange with prisoners is uh done okay i mean you understand we're out of the jurisdiction here of the of the british government you're really yeah as it's being positioned in the british media you're being held by uh inverted commas by bad russians and as i say your own twitter account is pumping out a stream of anti-russian bile and hatred as you're being positioned in sky bbc the daily mail etc as um as some kind of um i don't know the position use some sort of some sort of a hero who went to fight for ukraine but now you've ended up uh been taken by the russians who were told the worst things about exclusively and yet here you are in captivity for a week you look absolutely okay to me yeah decent health firstly like for people that say my hair i'm not a hero i try to desert it's not that's not something a hero would do um secondly like my treatments being good like i've not been beaten or anything it's it's been better than what i actually thought it was going to be like when we were surrendering i was scared scared to death of like what might happen i thought i was going to be lined up and shot but it's been quite the opposite like we've been given food water um access to speaking to journalists i had asked previously to speak to western journalists um and they they went through with that and broad journalist they brought uh italian jonah this uh graham today so i'm indeed thankful for that and particularly as well i think aiden to um to just compare that i'd like to uh i think really to get your thoughts on the fact that your colleagues the the barbarism the brutality towards russian prisoners of war what an interesting point is let's let's be honest here let's say things as they are that your family have appealed for russia to adhere to the geneva convention technically you're a mercenary so that doesn't apply to you however you're still being treated well you're here we're speaking you're fed your waters etc well on the other side we've seen russian servicemen butchered tortured slaughtered by your colleagues yeah your comrades i mean how is that how does that make you feel um it it annoys me like because i i did believe in ukraine um but as i said like after all this like the real reality of like what's behind like a lot of the people who seem nice uh the the reality of the their actions has been shown um and they're not as good as they say they are um especially with the videos that that we've all seen we're talking about evil here yes this is like stuff that the uh comparable to the nazis did when they would capture like prisoners um and who for you is stephan bandera fascist i i don't like him i've always believed he's a fascist and i could never really grasp why ukraine wanted him like around did you ever take part in any of the chants any of the uh slava ukraine or any of these uh neo-nazi fascist that they use we use in in the military they use level crane as like a national greeting which was used in world war ii by the ukrainian insurgent army also nazis yeah yeah so we we use that as a greeting in the uh ukrainian how do you feel about that now um i don't want to use it anymore um for me after this i i have no care for ukraine let's say well let's break it down aidan uh in the united kingdom the british media it's categorically delineated down the lines of the ukrainians of the good guys the russians are the bad guys tell me from one who knows experience of both sides what's the reality ukraine's not the good guys if ukraine was the good guys we would have left mariupol our commanders would have told us to leave donbass put in realistic terms they would have told us to pull back to the lines of uh i think it's near and just allow the dnr to take uh marijuana and the cities peacefully instead they told us to stay in mariupol and now if we look at if we look at marijuana it's no worse than stalingrad and you know there was a referendum in mario paul in 2014 the people overwhelmingly voted to join the donetsk people's republic but for eight years they were held basically captive by the azeroth battalion in a reign of terror yeah i'm not putting what did you do no no i i i know this i i remember seeing this constitutional facts um and again yeah um as of as of influence and marijuana was massive like in terms of like military support that they received from the state um it was actually during this operation we actually got to see how much support they got i saw um brand new american armored humvees that had obviously been given to uh azov instead of like the regular military um who were these guys describe them to me these uh the azov uh who no the ones i had seen when they came by we we had a few instances where they came by with the commander to speak to our commander um [Music] they looked the typical uh like hooligan like sort of like build tattoos everywhere um there was a couple of croatians with them um [Music] and they didn't seem they didn't seem like they were the normal kind of like uh nationalists they seemed more far right because they had like patches with swastikas um i tried speaking to one and he just like laughed at me because because i was in the marines um i get it all over the world aidan people are um going they're being even in the case of the british government there is of course a law that i mean eurozone you're a british citizen with also ukrainian i'm in process of ukrainian citizenship you're british citizen yeah uh there is a law that british citizens should not take part obviously forbidden to take part in in conflict however in the case of ukraine everything has been waived it's a free for all and even in the words of this trust you've been encouraged men from the uk been encouraged to come and take up arms fighting on the ukrainian side what would you like to say not only to the uk but to those from around the world thinking of coming or rather going to ukraine could say we're in dunbas this is not ukraine this is the donetsk people's republic what would you say to those thinking of going to ukraine to take up arms on the ukrainian side don't do it you'll be used um obviously to the person that will be viewing this thinking about going like you'll be thinking like it's it's someone putting this into my mouth but i tell you like now like 100 like if you go you're an idiot um like myself like we were used we were easily tossed aside one and forgotten about um if there's people that think they're gonna be coming out to be be the hero like don't don't even think about coming out there's no point um and the british government need to stop like uh need to stop [Music] i can't think of the word supporting stop support stop supporting like like citizens to go fight alongside the ukrainians these are all words in fact to get that point again of communication even your own twitter account it is it's not you that operates no it's very active it's it's uh operated by a canadian like one of my old like canadian friends um i just gave it to him because i i trusted him to like run it but like because that's come out with a virulent stream of anti-russia but from i've told him i've told him before i like to stop posting like the anti-russian stuff because when even when i was like running it i hated the uh i hated the uh like it's it's not it's not all also then it's like with the same size like we should be treated like non-biasedly when we're reporting stuff um but yeah i haven't had an e and to your country malaysian speak to people in the uk as they as they look at this what should they think of i mean to me i want to say as it is yeah and they're not good you're a man that's made a massive mistake uh in fact let's take that point it's easy to to speak your words and words you're now lucky to be in a place that your colleagues have been your comrades have been bombing for eight years killing untold misery and death here in donetsk from those with the same flag that you were wearing just uh i will stay uh a fact here agent it's obviously not uh not a nice one to state but the penalty in the next people's republic for being you're a mercenary yeah do you accept that you're a mercenary yeah what are you aiden i'm mercenary okay it is a death penalty can you give a reason as to why that shouldn't apply to you um i can't think of any like good logical reason uh other than to spare my life and exchange it for someone that's in ukrainian captivity that could return to their family um for so i think that would be one of the good reasons to to keep me in exchange me for someone such as victor medvechuk so he can return to his family okay and what would you like to say uh obviously i've been following your case and i've been following a reaction you understand a lot of people who are very angry with you yeah in zomba in russia i'd like to look to camera what would you like to say to the people of dambass um so i know you you hate me um and sorry can only get you so so many uh emotions but like it doesn't express like my true like apologies for being being in the circumstances in which i am if if i could take it back i would have i would have left long ago um but that's not the case what's done is done all i can ask is that you forgive me um and accept that i surrendered and tried to desert from the ukrainian forces um i can't think of much more there is that will what do you know about the city we're in the city of the nets because now what do you know about the city of donetsk um i just know it's the regional capital of uh of the dnr so founded in 1869 by a welsh yeah by welshman john hughes um i don't know too much about the city itself um as we were mostly based down south um city of a millionaire um you said previously about the bombing um so as i said because we served mainly like down south in the marine area control i'd never really been to the donetsk uh like region uh front lines before um but at the moment we're here in donetsk and like in my cell i can hear the bombing and that's like a big like wake-up call for me because previously before you see on the news like there's there's some fight there's like fights taking place in the next you never you never see like the bombing from ukrainian media how much do you feel that you were misled by the media by propaganda how much did that influence your decision to take up arms with the ukrainian side i would say probably 70 percent um and then the remainder would be just my my wife because she's ukrainian um and yeah i'd say that that'd be correct it's just and how accurate are the the bbc sky et cetera the daily mail and their reflection of the situations ambassadors in ukraine daily mail like i wouldn't trust um by a mile because of some of the previous stuff they've posted where they just get information like straight up wrong bbc also they're they have an agenda so one minute they're one minute they can be uh pro u and then next minute they're pro someone else um cnn we don't need to speak about them because that's obvious how is uh the morale among ukrainian soldiers um during the operation uh once we pulled back to mariupo for the majority of this operation i spent in a bunker at battalion hq because because as i said i i refused to fight but from what i saw from the guys in there a lot of guys were ignorant of the situation and their morale was like normal it wasn't till the last week when the airstrikes started getting heavier on on our position which was in the uh metalist factory um that's when they started realizing that the ukrainian government's like left us um i said to them like uh ages ago that that they've left is like this like i don't know what you expect for this to go um so like it wasn't until the last moments that the ukrainians started uh feeling their morale like go everyone started becoming silent and realizing that they're gonna lose which i said to them was gonna be from the beginning and what about the uh relation towards uh zelensky what what was your relation to him and what's the relation among the ukrainian troops um i can't say too much about the ukrainian troops because i never really asked him about what they think about him but like aft after this like after madupo like i said it before like he he left us he he told us he in better words is like look at mario paul uh before and then look at it now like if if we had left donbass like mediupl would still be a city right now it's it's graves like especially from uh other like journalists who were following dnr and russian forces um i saw them giving interviews to civilians who were inside marijuana um talking about how the ukrainian military and as of were like using like the cover of like civilian occupied buildings to fire from with their tanks and whatnot um although you know 10 years ago it was euro 2012 yeah football tournament dinners you're actually in what i consider to be one of the the world's great cities a beautiful city it was called the city of a million roses twinned with sheffield actually owned sheffield with a lot of words today from a from a concrete point of view what would you be willing to do to atone for the evil that you admit that you've been a part of how would you how can you uh propose that you would make amends for that if this exchange doesn't go through i'll i would help rebuild and that that is needed especially after especially after like medieval because civilians there now like there's people that have no homes they've lost their families um it's good it will probably be ten years till medieval looks at least somewhat resemblance of what it looked like before so you're physically there is one option that you're prepared to physically atone for the evil that you've done by helping to rebuild them yes okay and there is another option that a prisoner exchange your hope is in a visual exchange okay if it were a prison exchange if that were to happen what would you then what did you do next leave ukraine um i've previously told my wife to she she left ukraine because of the operation and the safety in in my life at the time um so she's now waiting to get a visa to go to britain to be with my family and i i've already told her like once this is finished and hopefully i return um we're going to live in britain build a family there and just forget about ukraine because after this i don't want to be in ukraine especially what is ukraine for you now what does it represent disloyalty uh forgetful i i can't remember these words it's been so long since i used english um do you mostly communicate in russian sojou oh i get you i get it um and broken english as well um but in the uk that you understand the position is unconditional support for ukraine now you've left london the ukrainian flag was up in the bt tower in uh in london what would you say to the avatars on facebook what would you say uh don't promote war um sure i think it was a week or two weeks after the operation was starting um i can't remember i think it was putin uh president putin uh proposed a peace uh deal to president zelinski it it was two weeks after wanted and in this peace deal ukraine made its uh made its request which was security guarantees so that if it's invaded in the future by any country that it would be protected by security guarantees and uh ukraine picked its security guarantees russia said okay that that's good but then where the issue came from was that ukraine refused to accept that crimea was russian they also refused to accept that donbass and legansk was independent and they would rather speak about it over 15 years okay so we've covered this point that it was ukraine drove to war by not accepting the will of the people of dumbass for these eight years instead deciding to show them to kill we've covered that okay uh let's go down the road of there's a prison exchange you're afraid uh all the media because before you spoke to sky et cetera and all the rest of it uh they covered you you were you know the the brick fighting for ukraine along with sean pinner who's also in captivity let's go down the road with a pizza exchange i'm am i going to see are we going to see you in future renouncing everything you've said today saying that i was forced to say this it was you know it was it was dreadful the russians are you know all of these bad things that the media like to hear are we gonna hear you you know walking back what you've said and saying that you were coerced or forced to saying this that's not your actual position i'd like to to categorically to really delineate what your actual position is without any pressure or coercion and that's something that is going to be there as a record of facts because we don't want a situation later on where yeah i understand um no after this i'm done i have i have every day to think in my head mentally about uh about what has happened so i have time to reflect on it and there's not a part of me that wants to do anything with ukraine anymore um for me i'm i'm done with them like i'm just gonna go home uh try to build my life and my wife for me that's my main priority i don't care about anyone else like for me you accept it if that happens how lucky you will be of course um compared to uh some of the other people like uh that won't return to their families and stuff like that i'm internally grateful that i'm still alive and given the opportunity to be exchanged um compared to some others who probably won't have that opportunity or don't have that opportunity you've got a tattoo that says happy days yeah so as you're as you're now i guess hoping in the future what would you like to say to uh you mentioned the rich government what would you like to say to to boris johnson in terms of his unconditional support of ukraine and what would you like to say to him um so boris johnson if you're watching this video um obviously you're aware of my situation and the situation in this area um firstly i'd like to say is help help end this war and i don't mean like militarily i mean like help it be achieved by peace um eight years is a long time for war and with the new addition of this operation we need to help finish it so civilians can return to their lives without the how should it be finished on what terms um i think what what originally what we said before with like what president putin presented i think that was a reasonable uh agreement um um it's reasonable that uh so dumbass is independent yeah donbass lagansk and crimea is recognized as russian territory that that's a reasonable request i can't see why they wouldn't accept that okay and we're almost going to almost get a video patched if so uh but i will finish in the last point i'll wait a second wait a second now i'm going to get for speaking i'm going to get a load of hassle yeah i load a stick uh from people you know saying that uh the the terrible the evil you know kremlin propagandist ben phillips interrogated uh poor asian et cetera et cetera the horrible you know uh i'd like to say from from your side we've we've chatted today from a nottingham man to another uh how's it been for you and it's it's good um i just want to point out he he didn't get called like to me i asked like i knew about graham i asked to speak to him um because one he's british and he's also not a good lad um so it was me that asked like for him to come interview me because one is english and i know some of his work um well yeah like don't just jump on the bandwagon like looking to the interview that we're doing now it's it's legit okay um can can i add one more about the exchange for boris absolutely um so boris johnson uh this is my second uh request that i need you to listen um the dnr authorities have given the chance for us to be exchanged and all they ask is that we are exchanged for uh victor madwechuk a couple of days ago his wife oksana madwechuk made an appeal to boris johnson to exchange us exchange me and another british mercenary called sean pinner so that we so that ukraine can release her husband so he can return to his family if if this is not possible then they would happily exchange us for another uh ukrainian captive in uh kiev uh who will have the possibility of returning to his family in exchange for us to also return to our family okay uh and we're gonna wrap up is anything else you'd like to add we've chatted for the best part of the night is there anything else you'd like to say your final thoughts or words um it pretty much sums it all up i can't think of too much apart from uh how basically we were just left by our military um did did we cover that yeah we chatted a lot now and uh time for you to realize i think that question relax i think a little yeah 36786