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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,129 --> 00:00:01,913 Narrator: Previously on... 2 00:00:01,956 --> 00:00:03,132 - "Dateline" is here? - Wow. 3 00:00:03,175 --> 00:00:05,525 Will you dig up something on Pam Hupp? 4 00:00:05,569 --> 00:00:06,961 There's no direct evidence here 5 00:00:06,986 --> 00:00:08,069 that connects her to the crime. 6 00:00:08,093 --> 00:00:09,157 Well, it looks like we're facing 7 00:00:09,181 --> 00:00:11,053 a home court advantage here, Russ. 8 00:00:11,096 --> 00:00:12,663 Did you guys ever find that letter 9 00:00:12,706 --> 00:00:15,535 about Russ putting a pillow over her face? 10 00:00:15,579 --> 00:00:18,364 - Luminol photos were taken. - We found blood in the kitchen. 11 00:00:18,408 --> 00:00:21,019 We the jury find Russell Faria 12 00:00:21,063 --> 00:00:22,716 guilty of murder in the first degree. 13 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,200 I'm not gonna quit until he's free. 14 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:25,328 I set up a trust 15 00:00:25,371 --> 00:00:27,112 for the daughters of Betsy Faria. 16 00:00:27,156 --> 00:00:28,940 I'd like to transfer the balance 17 00:00:28,983 --> 00:00:31,029 to my personal checking. 18 00:00:31,073 --> 00:00:33,423 [laid back music] 19 00:00:33,466 --> 00:00:35,207 Narrator: No one knows a mother 20 00:00:35,251 --> 00:00:37,166 like her daughter. 21 00:00:37,209 --> 00:00:39,081 Go ahead, Grandma, make a wish. 22 00:00:39,124 --> 00:00:43,563 ♪ 23 00:00:43,607 --> 00:00:45,478 Narrator: A very, shall we say, 24 00:00:45,522 --> 00:00:48,264 special relationship. 25 00:00:48,307 --> 00:00:52,746 ♪ 26 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:54,226 - Yay. - Yay! 27 00:00:54,270 --> 00:00:56,141 ♪ 28 00:00:56,185 --> 00:00:57,882 Gotta get you back to Autumndale. 29 00:00:57,925 --> 00:01:00,058 Already late meeting the plumber at our flip. 30 00:01:00,102 --> 00:01:01,581 Oh, I can take Grandma back. 31 00:01:01,625 --> 00:01:04,410 I don't want to go with you. 32 00:01:04,454 --> 00:01:06,760 It's fine. I'll take her. 33 00:01:06,804 --> 00:01:10,373 Your mom's just protecting her spot in my will. 34 00:01:10,416 --> 00:01:12,723 Narrator: When does money become an obsession? 35 00:01:12,766 --> 00:01:14,266 [Foreigner's "Feels like the First Time"] 36 00:01:14,290 --> 00:01:17,336 By 1977, Pam had grown up poor, 37 00:01:17,380 --> 00:01:19,251 but she was popular. 38 00:01:19,295 --> 00:01:22,124 She was on the pom-pom squad. 39 00:01:22,167 --> 00:01:23,255 So, Pam, 40 00:01:23,299 --> 00:01:25,127 you gonna give it up to Randy tonight? 41 00:01:25,170 --> 00:01:26,563 I'm saving myself. 42 00:01:26,606 --> 00:01:29,827 Randy's gotta wait till after I go to Mizzou, 43 00:01:29,870 --> 00:01:32,264 get my teaching degree. 44 00:01:32,308 --> 00:01:35,137 Man, if he doesn't look good in that suit. 45 00:01:35,180 --> 00:01:37,835 ♪ 46 00:01:37,878 --> 00:01:39,967 Aren't you supposed to stay inside, 47 00:01:40,011 --> 00:01:41,055 with the other teachers? 48 00:01:41,099 --> 00:01:42,187 That Gunderson boy 49 00:01:42,231 --> 00:01:44,276 better have you home by 11:00, Pam, 50 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:46,060 and no fooling around. 51 00:01:46,104 --> 00:01:47,410 Don't worry, Mrs. Neumann. 52 00:01:47,453 --> 00:01:49,455 Pam was just saying she's waiting till marriage. 53 00:01:49,499 --> 00:01:51,457 - After Mizzou. - [laughs] 54 00:01:51,501 --> 00:01:54,634 Pam doesn't got the brains for Mizzou. 55 00:01:54,678 --> 00:01:57,985 And I'm not so sure she has anything left to save, honey. 56 00:01:58,029 --> 00:02:01,293 This one is very sneaky. 57 00:02:01,337 --> 00:02:02,468 Narrator: Was Pam born 58 00:02:02,512 --> 00:02:04,078 with a certain nature? 59 00:02:04,122 --> 00:02:06,777 He brain wired a certain way? 60 00:02:06,820 --> 00:02:08,561 ♪ 61 00:02:08,605 --> 00:02:10,389 Don't you walk away from me. 62 00:02:10,433 --> 00:02:12,826 Why don't you have another drink, Mom? 63 00:02:12,870 --> 00:02:15,046 Narrator: And if biology loaded the gun, 64 00:02:15,089 --> 00:02:16,178 so to speak, 65 00:02:16,221 --> 00:02:18,310 did upbringing fire it? 66 00:02:18,354 --> 00:02:22,662 I will cut you out of my will, Pam. 67 00:02:22,706 --> 00:02:25,883 ♪ And I know that it must be the woman in you ♪ 68 00:02:25,926 --> 00:02:31,410 ♪ That brings out the man in me ♪ 69 00:02:31,454 --> 00:02:35,501 ♪ Feels like the first time 70 00:02:35,545 --> 00:02:38,939 ♪ It feels like the very first time ♪ 71 00:02:38,983 --> 00:02:43,814 ♪ And it feels like the first time ♪ 72 00:02:43,857 --> 00:02:48,906 [sobbing] 73 00:02:53,389 --> 00:02:55,391 Did you wet yourself? 74 00:02:55,434 --> 00:02:58,872 [sobbing continues] 75 00:02:58,916 --> 00:03:02,572 What did I tell you last time? Hmm? 76 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:06,967 Mm. 77 00:03:09,927 --> 00:03:11,581 [exhales] 78 00:03:13,409 --> 00:03:15,280 - You're done. - [crying softly] 79 00:03:15,324 --> 00:03:17,456 Hm. 80 00:03:18,762 --> 00:03:20,503 And if you even try to take those off, 81 00:03:20,546 --> 00:03:23,549 it'll be worse for you, trust me. 82 00:03:23,593 --> 00:03:28,075 I should be the one crying. 83 00:03:28,119 --> 00:03:31,992 You owe me, little girl. 84 00:03:32,036 --> 00:03:35,605 But you got any money? 85 00:03:35,648 --> 00:03:37,084 No. 86 00:03:37,128 --> 00:03:38,999 You're broke. 87 00:03:40,523 --> 00:03:43,134 Rand, we're out of milk. 88 00:03:43,177 --> 00:03:45,397 I need some grocery money. 89 00:03:45,441 --> 00:03:50,402 I'm watching the game. 90 00:03:50,446 --> 00:03:52,535 Come on. 91 00:03:52,578 --> 00:03:54,798 Little late, isn't it, Pam? 92 00:03:54,841 --> 00:03:56,713 I'll go with you. 93 00:03:56,756 --> 00:03:58,149 Mom. 94 00:03:58,192 --> 00:03:59,411 Mom, you're tired. 95 00:03:59,455 --> 00:04:02,588 You want me to bring you back some gin, yeah? 96 00:04:02,632 --> 00:04:05,939 - Okay, all right. - All right. 97 00:04:05,983 --> 00:04:08,246 Mm-hmm. 98 00:04:08,290 --> 00:04:09,943 [sighs] 99 00:04:09,987 --> 00:04:11,249 - Rand. - Hmm? 100 00:04:11,293 --> 00:04:13,382 Money. 101 00:04:15,601 --> 00:04:17,864 Thanks for getting milk. 102 00:04:17,908 --> 00:04:20,389 You are a good mom. 103 00:04:20,432 --> 00:04:22,478 Good moms don't run out of milk. 104 00:04:22,521 --> 00:04:25,307 You were always out of milk. 105 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:27,221 You were always out of everything. 106 00:04:27,265 --> 00:04:29,136 'Cause we were poor, dumb-ass. 107 00:04:29,180 --> 00:04:31,617 Why are you here if you're just gonna insult me? 108 00:04:31,661 --> 00:04:34,054 Somebody has to keep an eye on you, 109 00:04:34,098 --> 00:04:35,404 for Sarah's sake. 110 00:04:35,447 --> 00:04:37,667 Oh. 111 00:04:38,494 --> 00:04:41,453 So does that mean you don't disown my daughter after all? 112 00:04:41,497 --> 00:04:43,934 No, she's still a bastard. 113 00:04:43,977 --> 00:04:45,979 We got married before she was born. 114 00:04:46,023 --> 00:04:47,372 Sarah is not a bastard. 115 00:04:47,416 --> 00:04:49,026 She's not my family. 116 00:04:49,069 --> 00:04:51,158 That's for sure. 117 00:04:51,202 --> 00:04:54,118 You're going to get milk or what? 118 00:04:54,161 --> 00:04:57,077 [TV chatter] 119 00:05:00,690 --> 00:05:02,449 [door shuts] [chuckles] 120 00:05:02,474 --> 00:05:03,475 Or what? 121 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:06,478 [upbeat rock music] 122 00:05:06,522 --> 00:05:08,175 ♪ 123 00:05:08,219 --> 00:05:09,873 Gin and tonic for you. 124 00:05:09,916 --> 00:05:15,487 ♪ 125 00:05:15,531 --> 00:05:18,011 - Uh, no. - So AAA is the last stop 126 00:05:18,055 --> 00:05:19,578 before the pros. 127 00:05:19,622 --> 00:05:22,364 It's got nothing to do with the automobile association. 128 00:05:22,407 --> 00:05:25,192 ♪ 129 00:05:25,236 --> 00:05:27,020 I'm headed to play in Florida. 130 00:05:27,064 --> 00:05:29,632 ♪ 131 00:05:29,675 --> 00:05:35,507 ♪ I'm, I'm truly a travelin' man ♪ 132 00:05:35,551 --> 00:05:39,816 ♪ Consider me saved 133 00:05:39,859 --> 00:05:43,341 ♪ I'm a 20th century boy 134 00:05:43,385 --> 00:05:46,866 ♪ In a 21st century world 135 00:05:46,910 --> 00:05:49,391 ♪ Got my big double space boots on ♪ 136 00:05:49,434 --> 00:05:52,350 ♪ Now I'm on my way 137 00:05:52,394 --> 00:05:59,444 ♪ 138 00:06:02,491 --> 00:06:04,580 [clears throat] 139 00:06:04,623 --> 00:06:07,321 Another G&T for me. 140 00:06:07,365 --> 00:06:10,237 And a beer for AAA over here. 141 00:06:10,281 --> 00:06:12,979 ♪ 142 00:06:13,023 --> 00:06:15,678 Hi. 143 00:06:15,721 --> 00:06:18,768 [door handle rattling] 144 00:06:19,421 --> 00:06:22,467 Florida, huh? 145 00:06:22,511 --> 00:06:24,338 That's the plan, yeah. 146 00:06:24,382 --> 00:06:26,340 AAA two to three years, 147 00:06:26,384 --> 00:06:28,865 and off to the big leagues. 148 00:06:28,908 --> 00:06:31,911 I like a guy with a plan. 149 00:06:31,955 --> 00:06:34,087 ♪ Another rock and roll superstar ♪ 150 00:06:34,131 --> 00:06:38,048 And Florida's real humid, right? 151 00:06:38,091 --> 00:06:40,746 [both chuckle] 152 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:43,532 My mom hates humidity. Frazzles her hair. 153 00:06:43,575 --> 00:06:48,537 ♪ 154 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:50,452 So when do we leave? 155 00:06:50,495 --> 00:06:53,324 ♪ 156 00:06:53,367 --> 00:06:56,893 [slurping] 157 00:06:56,936 --> 00:06:57,894 [chuckles] 158 00:06:57,937 --> 00:06:59,896 [slurping] 159 00:06:59,939 --> 00:07:03,116 Great form, Mrs. Fitzgerald. 160 00:07:10,559 --> 00:07:12,082 [yawns] 161 00:07:12,125 --> 00:07:16,782 - Hmm? - Yeah. 162 00:07:16,826 --> 00:07:19,176 Mrs. Fitzgerald baked these for helping out. 163 00:07:19,219 --> 00:07:20,351 Isn't that nice? 164 00:07:20,394 --> 00:07:22,484 Her gout's spread like crazy. 165 00:07:22,527 --> 00:07:24,834 She doesn't have any family around. 166 00:07:24,877 --> 00:07:27,184 I'm sure you'll take good care of her. 167 00:07:27,227 --> 00:07:29,186 Mm-hmm. 168 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:32,232 [slurping] 169 00:07:32,276 --> 00:07:34,496 Hey, may I have some money for a beer? 170 00:07:34,539 --> 00:07:36,323 Hmm? Mm, no. 171 00:07:36,367 --> 00:07:38,500 No more spending today. 172 00:07:40,066 --> 00:07:41,285 Mm-mm. 173 00:07:41,328 --> 00:07:43,722 I am not buying you another bathing suit. 174 00:07:43,766 --> 00:07:46,246 That one barely fits. 175 00:07:46,290 --> 00:07:47,726 When I was your age, 176 00:07:47,770 --> 00:07:50,468 I had to wear pedal pushers to the pool. 177 00:07:50,512 --> 00:07:51,991 Know why? 178 00:07:52,035 --> 00:07:54,777 Your grandma beat me with a belt. 179 00:07:54,820 --> 00:07:56,822 You think I ever got any cookies? 180 00:08:00,217 --> 00:08:01,827 Hmm. 181 00:08:11,402 --> 00:08:12,751 You and baby Travis don't know 182 00:08:12,795 --> 00:08:16,625 how lucky you are to be mine. 183 00:08:16,668 --> 00:08:20,019 Far, far away from mean, old Grandma. 184 00:08:20,063 --> 00:08:22,848 ♪ Spin me around 185 00:08:22,892 --> 00:08:24,328 Can I come with you to the house? 186 00:08:24,371 --> 00:08:26,373 Scott and I have been thinking about flipping, too. 187 00:08:26,417 --> 00:08:28,680 Scott. What's he know? 188 00:08:28,724 --> 00:08:30,421 He got his real estate license. 189 00:08:30,464 --> 00:08:31,901 Anyone can study up. 190 00:08:31,944 --> 00:08:34,599 It doesn't mean you got the knack. 191 00:08:34,643 --> 00:08:37,297 Actually, Scott found this perfect foreclosure on Derby. 192 00:08:37,341 --> 00:08:40,649 You guys don't have the bankroll for this game, 193 00:08:40,692 --> 00:08:43,390 and I don't want to see you make a mistake 194 00:08:43,434 --> 00:08:46,089 that I gotta fix. 195 00:08:46,132 --> 00:08:50,789 You owe me 15.72 196 00:08:50,833 --> 00:08:52,835 with the fries. 197 00:08:52,878 --> 00:08:54,837 How come Travis doesn't have to pay? 198 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,142 I do other things. 199 00:08:56,186 --> 00:08:57,753 He does. 200 00:08:57,796 --> 00:09:00,451 Sarah, your mom is always gonna make you pay. 201 00:09:00,494 --> 00:09:02,584 Grandma, I'm over here. 202 00:09:02,627 --> 00:09:04,281 When she was just a little bitch, 203 00:09:04,324 --> 00:09:07,589 Pam stole candy from a corner store 204 00:09:07,632 --> 00:09:09,591 and hid it under the bed, 205 00:09:09,634 --> 00:09:11,027 and she lied to her dad, 206 00:09:11,070 --> 00:09:12,855 said that I was the one who stole it. 207 00:09:12,898 --> 00:09:14,639 Who do you think he believed? 208 00:09:14,683 --> 00:09:17,163 And she still steals from me. 209 00:09:17,207 --> 00:09:18,425 ♪ 210 00:09:18,469 --> 00:09:20,297 Grandma's lying. 211 00:09:20,340 --> 00:09:22,691 Her brain is mush. 212 00:09:22,734 --> 00:09:24,083 Let's do cake. 213 00:09:24,127 --> 00:09:25,868 Narrator: Mothers and daughters, 214 00:09:25,911 --> 00:09:27,783 a bond that can't be severed. 215 00:09:30,568 --> 00:09:30,742 . 216 00:09:30,786 --> 00:09:31,961 - [doorbell rings] - [groans] 217 00:09:32,004 --> 00:09:33,266 Okay, okay. 218 00:09:33,310 --> 00:09:36,182 - Hello? - It's Cathy from "Dateline." 219 00:09:41,318 --> 00:09:42,928 Narrator: It had been almost two years 220 00:09:42,972 --> 00:09:44,538 since Russ' conviction, 221 00:09:44,582 --> 00:09:48,499 and Pam had rested on her laurels. 222 00:09:54,157 --> 00:09:56,072 Hi. 223 00:09:56,115 --> 00:09:57,421 Sorry to just show up, 224 00:09:57,464 --> 00:09:59,423 but you stopped answering my texts. 225 00:09:59,466 --> 00:10:02,469 Oh, well, first, nice to meet ya. 226 00:10:02,513 --> 00:10:04,689 And I told ya, I'm a private person. 227 00:10:04,733 --> 00:10:07,518 I know. But with Joel pushing for a retrial, 228 00:10:07,561 --> 00:10:10,086 you should really think about telling your side of the story. 229 00:10:10,129 --> 00:10:12,001 A retrial... who said that? 230 00:10:12,044 --> 00:10:13,959 - Just what I heard. - Uh-huh. 231 00:10:14,003 --> 00:10:16,701 Kay. Um, well, have a good one. 232 00:10:16,745 --> 00:10:18,660 You might want to send a new photo, at least. 233 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,232 [phone buzzes] 234 00:10:27,973 --> 00:10:29,888 Ick. 235 00:10:29,932 --> 00:10:32,586 Ironically, it was Pam that got the ball rolling. 236 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:34,806 You mean, I could get out? 237 00:10:34,850 --> 00:10:36,765 That's what we're saying. 238 00:10:36,808 --> 00:10:39,332 Lily and Mariah filed a civil suit against Pam 239 00:10:39,376 --> 00:10:40,856 for the insurance money. 240 00:10:40,899 --> 00:10:42,596 So I was able to use some of the material 241 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,163 from Pam's civil deposition 242 00:10:44,207 --> 00:10:46,731 as evidence in support of a thing called a Mooney motion. 243 00:10:46,775 --> 00:10:49,603 Super longshot. And it worked. 244 00:10:49,647 --> 00:10:53,346 Now, this motion got us a hearing before a judge. 245 00:10:53,390 --> 00:10:56,001 And he agreed to grant you a new trial. 246 00:10:56,045 --> 00:10:58,395 Russ, this is a good thing. 247 00:10:58,438 --> 00:11:01,528 I know. Thanks, but they're a bunch of cheats. 248 00:11:01,572 --> 00:11:03,637 I've already been in here three years because of them. 249 00:11:03,661 --> 00:11:05,402 What if they just tear me down again 250 00:11:05,445 --> 00:11:06,814 - and I wind up back here, and... - No, no, no. 251 00:11:06,838 --> 00:11:08,642 Everything is gonna be different this time, Russ. 252 00:11:08,666 --> 00:11:11,103 This motion guarantees that we'll be able to bring in 253 00:11:11,147 --> 00:11:13,497 all the evidence implicating Pam Hupp. 254 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:15,281 Now, we'd like to request a bench trial. 255 00:11:15,325 --> 00:11:17,327 That is, one judge, 256 00:11:17,370 --> 00:11:21,026 not an uninformed group like we had last time. 257 00:11:21,070 --> 00:11:22,506 - Just a judge? - Just one judge. 258 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:24,551 - Is that risky? - Yeah, it's different. 259 00:11:24,595 --> 00:11:27,250 Normally, we only have to convince one juror out of 12. 260 00:11:27,293 --> 00:11:28,555 Now, those odds didn't exactly 261 00:11:28,599 --> 00:11:29,774 work in our favor last time, 262 00:11:29,818 --> 00:11:32,168 but this time, you'll get a new judge, 263 00:11:32,211 --> 00:11:33,822 a fair one. 264 00:11:33,865 --> 00:11:36,259 That's all we need, and we can win this thing. 265 00:11:36,302 --> 00:11:39,088 But it's up to you. 266 00:11:39,131 --> 00:11:41,307 We don't want to do anything without your say-so. 267 00:11:41,351 --> 00:11:44,049 [gentle hopeful music] 268 00:11:44,093 --> 00:11:46,312 If you think it's better... 269 00:11:46,356 --> 00:11:48,314 ♪ 270 00:11:48,358 --> 00:11:50,708 Let's go for it. 271 00:11:50,752 --> 00:11:51,883 I trust you. 272 00:11:51,927 --> 00:11:56,018 ♪ 273 00:11:56,061 --> 00:11:58,020 [knocking on door] 274 00:11:58,063 --> 00:11:59,848 Mrs. Hupp is... 275 00:11:59,891 --> 00:12:01,588 It's fine. It's fine. 276 00:12:01,632 --> 00:12:03,895 You said it would take five or six years 277 00:12:03,939 --> 00:12:05,462 for an appeal. 278 00:12:05,505 --> 00:12:09,379 - What's this about retrial? - Uh... 279 00:12:09,422 --> 00:12:11,381 It's the most ridiculous thing. 280 00:12:11,424 --> 00:12:14,036 My ten-year-old could file something better. 281 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:15,385 A Mooney motion. 282 00:12:15,428 --> 00:12:17,387 - Money motion? - Mooney. 283 00:12:17,430 --> 00:12:18,997 I could show you my bank statement. 284 00:12:19,041 --> 00:12:20,583 - It's Mooney. - The money's still there. 285 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:21,759 - I'm not the kind of person... - Right, it's... 286 00:12:21,783 --> 00:12:23,306 Who goes out and just blows money. 287 00:12:23,349 --> 00:12:24,457 - No, I know. - Not me. Never has been me. 288 00:12:24,481 --> 00:12:25,588 - Of course. - I went to college. 289 00:12:25,612 --> 00:12:27,179 You know, top of my class. 290 00:12:27,223 --> 00:12:28,833 - I didn't need that money. - Right. 291 00:12:28,877 --> 00:12:30,574 And if he's such a great lawyer, 292 00:12:30,617 --> 00:12:32,663 and he charges what he charges, 293 00:12:32,706 --> 00:12:34,883 he's gonna crack this whole thing open 294 00:12:34,926 --> 00:12:36,101 based on a deposition? 295 00:12:36,145 --> 00:12:37,494 What deposition? 296 00:12:37,537 --> 00:12:41,367 The one for the girls' lawsuit against you. 297 00:12:41,411 --> 00:12:43,543 Because of what you said. 298 00:12:46,982 --> 00:12:52,509 [slurping] 299 00:12:54,946 --> 00:12:56,992 Are you okay? 300 00:12:59,255 --> 00:13:03,781 I'm fine. 301 00:13:03,825 --> 00:13:06,088 Joel's just using your testimony 302 00:13:06,131 --> 00:13:12,050 to say that the only reason that you opened the trust 303 00:13:12,094 --> 00:13:15,445 is because you felt pressured by the cops or me? 304 00:13:15,488 --> 00:13:19,101 No. That is not true. 305 00:13:19,144 --> 00:13:23,583 That is ridiculousness. 306 00:13:23,627 --> 00:13:27,109 I know it's not... It's ridiculousness. 307 00:13:27,152 --> 00:13:28,501 So you never said that. 308 00:13:28,545 --> 00:13:33,680 - Are you saying that... - That this is my fault? 309 00:13:33,724 --> 00:13:35,117 No. 310 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,293 Not at all. 311 00:13:37,336 --> 00:13:40,035 Just that Schwartz is using... 312 00:13:40,078 --> 00:13:44,474 Schwartz is doing that one-sided BS. 313 00:13:44,517 --> 00:13:46,519 But we will have to prep, 314 00:13:46,563 --> 00:13:48,565 so I'm gonna have Tina schedule some time. 315 00:13:48,608 --> 00:13:50,349 Dream team. 316 00:13:50,393 --> 00:13:53,004 [quietly] Right. 317 00:13:53,048 --> 00:13:55,964 [light plucky music] 318 00:13:56,007 --> 00:13:57,922 [chuckles softly] 319 00:13:57,966 --> 00:14:00,794 Let me help you with the door. There you go. 320 00:14:00,838 --> 00:14:02,144 Thanks, Pam. 321 00:14:02,187 --> 00:14:05,321 Bye. 322 00:14:05,364 --> 00:14:08,106 Tina, um, 323 00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:09,629 do you understand Facebook? 324 00:14:09,673 --> 00:14:12,328 Because I made a campaign account for my reelection, 325 00:14:12,371 --> 00:14:16,549 but am I a page? Am I a person? What am I? 326 00:14:16,593 --> 00:14:19,248 I don't know, but I was actually just going over 327 00:14:19,291 --> 00:14:20,640 the original evidence list, 328 00:14:20,684 --> 00:14:22,599 and it seems like there are a few items on here 329 00:14:22,642 --> 00:14:25,950 that weren't filed correctly the first time around, 330 00:14:25,994 --> 00:14:28,257 - or never even tested. - Hmm. 331 00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:29,388 Should I test them now? 332 00:14:29,432 --> 00:14:31,173 Yeah. Test everything. 333 00:14:31,216 --> 00:14:33,871 Against Russ and anyone else? 334 00:14:33,915 --> 00:14:36,787 Why would we test against anyone but Russ? 335 00:14:36,830 --> 00:14:39,746 So we can, I don't know, be on the right side of things. 336 00:14:39,790 --> 00:14:42,706 - We are on the right side. - We won. 337 00:14:42,749 --> 00:14:44,534 Seems like I knew what I was doing then. 338 00:14:44,577 --> 00:14:46,449 Why would we change tactics now? 339 00:14:46,492 --> 00:14:50,496 ♪ 340 00:14:50,540 --> 00:14:51,802 She was just weird. 341 00:14:51,845 --> 00:14:53,804 It was like she was blaming me or something. 342 00:14:53,847 --> 00:14:56,459 It's not my fault that Betsy's girls 343 00:14:56,502 --> 00:14:57,764 made me talk to their lawyer. 344 00:14:57,808 --> 00:14:59,853 She's the DA. It's her job to put Russ away 345 00:14:59,897 --> 00:15:02,508 and keep him there. Her job. 346 00:15:02,552 --> 00:15:03,945 Hey. 347 00:15:03,988 --> 00:15:07,774 We're behind on the mortgage and... 348 00:15:07,818 --> 00:15:10,734 That's all that's left of Betsy's insurance. 349 00:15:10,777 --> 00:15:13,650 And it's... it's sentimental. 350 00:15:13,693 --> 00:15:15,913 She would want me to save it for a rainy day. 351 00:15:15,957 --> 00:15:17,741 Plus, people are late on bills all the time. 352 00:15:17,784 --> 00:15:20,178 Nothing ever happens. 353 00:15:20,222 --> 00:15:21,614 We gotta think bigger. 354 00:15:21,658 --> 00:15:23,747 Is now the time for bigger, though? 355 00:15:23,790 --> 00:15:26,576 It's the time for big swings. 356 00:15:26,619 --> 00:15:28,317 Russ is getting a retrial, 357 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,927 and "Dateline" is up my ass. 358 00:15:29,971 --> 00:15:33,104 - Well, reporters are rats. - Yeah, they are. 359 00:15:33,148 --> 00:15:34,777 You know what my mom used to do with rats? 360 00:15:34,801 --> 00:15:36,890 She liked that poison that killed them slow. 361 00:15:36,934 --> 00:15:38,544 I like the kind with zinc. 362 00:15:38,588 --> 00:15:40,068 [loud bang] It makes 'em pop 363 00:15:40,111 --> 00:15:41,156 right from the get-go, 364 00:15:41,199 --> 00:15:43,419 you know? [Laughs] 365 00:15:43,462 --> 00:15:45,943 Well, my mama always said 366 00:15:45,987 --> 00:15:48,511 to make sure they got nothing to feed on. 367 00:15:48,554 --> 00:15:51,514 [sinister music] 368 00:15:51,557 --> 00:15:54,778 ♪ 369 00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:57,259 You are so right. 370 00:15:57,302 --> 00:15:58,782 Huh. 371 00:15:58,825 --> 00:16:04,396 If Russ never gets out, 372 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,399 there's no story. 373 00:16:07,443 --> 00:16:09,097 No "Dateline." 374 00:16:09,140 --> 00:16:10,576 Narrator: No "Dateline." 375 00:16:10,620 --> 00:16:12,665 Hmm. We'll see. 376 00:16:15,277 --> 00:16:15,451 . 377 00:16:15,494 --> 00:16:17,757 Would you scootch back a bit for me, please? 378 00:16:17,801 --> 00:16:19,213 We're gonna try and get a shot of you 379 00:16:19,237 --> 00:16:21,587 through the doorway, like this. 380 00:16:21,631 --> 00:16:22,936 Oh, boy. 381 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:24,590 There's no need to be nervous. 382 00:16:24,634 --> 00:16:26,505 We're not here to interrogate you. 383 00:16:26,549 --> 00:16:28,072 It's okay. 384 00:16:28,116 --> 00:16:30,770 I know what you're here for. 385 00:16:30,814 --> 00:16:32,598 I'm here to report the facts. 386 00:16:32,642 --> 00:16:34,078 You're gonna say that the facts 387 00:16:34,122 --> 00:16:36,950 don't point to Russ, right? 388 00:16:36,994 --> 00:16:40,084 - [sighs] - There are certain facts 389 00:16:40,128 --> 00:16:42,565 that call into question that theory. 390 00:16:42,608 --> 00:16:44,697 And it's my responsibility to report those too. 391 00:16:44,741 --> 00:16:48,919 You mean some people saying it's Pam Hupp? 392 00:16:48,962 --> 00:16:51,878 I know what some folks think, 393 00:16:51,922 --> 00:16:54,794 and I can only guess what they're saying about me. 394 00:16:54,838 --> 00:16:56,796 But Pam was there 395 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,103 for the family and the police. 396 00:16:59,147 --> 00:17:01,627 She was their star witness. 397 00:17:01,671 --> 00:17:03,890 So how could that be 398 00:17:03,934 --> 00:17:07,807 if she were the guilty one? 399 00:17:07,851 --> 00:17:09,113 Pam, it's great 400 00:17:09,157 --> 00:17:10,873 that you wanted to come back in and help us, 401 00:17:10,897 --> 00:17:16,164 but a lot of this we know from the first time around. 402 00:17:16,207 --> 00:17:20,994 Did you know that Betsy had an inverted nipple? 403 00:17:21,038 --> 00:17:23,127 No, I didn't. 404 00:17:24,259 --> 00:17:26,522 Well, I told her it was a sign of cancer, 405 00:17:26,565 --> 00:17:29,394 and it sure was. 406 00:17:29,438 --> 00:17:31,222 I mean, 407 00:17:31,266 --> 00:17:35,096 we just spent a whole lot of time together, 408 00:17:35,139 --> 00:17:36,706 you know? 409 00:17:36,749 --> 00:17:38,360 Um, and I did. 410 00:17:38,403 --> 00:17:44,061 I, uh, replaced what a husband would be. 411 00:17:44,105 --> 00:17:45,497 [gasps] 412 00:17:45,541 --> 00:17:49,066 So you were filling voids they had in their marriage. 413 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:50,198 - Yeah. - Uh-huh. 414 00:17:50,241 --> 00:17:52,461 And after that, 415 00:17:52,504 --> 00:17:57,727 I knew she had a mad crush on me. 416 00:17:57,770 --> 00:18:00,860 I didn't know to what level. 417 00:18:00,904 --> 00:18:02,471 It didn't matter. 418 00:18:02,514 --> 00:18:06,127 I think that happens with people. 419 00:18:06,170 --> 00:18:08,607 But I think because I always had her back, 420 00:18:08,651 --> 00:18:10,174 she trusted me. 421 00:18:10,218 --> 00:18:13,917 She really, really, 422 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,224 really loved me. 423 00:18:16,267 --> 00:18:21,359 And it just kept growing from that. 424 00:18:21,403 --> 00:18:24,928 She wanted to be more. 425 00:18:24,971 --> 00:18:27,887 - Oh, you mean, like... - Like, a sexual relationship? 426 00:18:27,931 --> 00:18:29,193 Yeah. 427 00:18:29,237 --> 00:18:31,239 But I said, "No, that's not me," 428 00:18:31,282 --> 00:18:33,284 and all of that, nd she got sort of mad. 429 00:18:33,328 --> 00:18:35,808 So over time... 430 00:18:35,852 --> 00:18:37,201 It didn't start out that way... 431 00:18:37,245 --> 00:18:41,379 But our relationship became more. 432 00:18:41,423 --> 00:18:45,253 We were sexual together. 433 00:18:45,296 --> 00:18:46,428 Don't like girls. 434 00:18:46,471 --> 00:18:48,517 Never been attracted to girls. 435 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,650 I'll go watch "Magic Mike XL" right now. 436 00:18:51,694 --> 00:18:52,869 [chuckles] 437 00:18:52,912 --> 00:18:54,436 Love men. 438 00:18:54,479 --> 00:18:58,701 But sex isn't a big deal to me, 439 00:18:58,744 --> 00:19:03,227 so it was something I sacrificed for her. 440 00:19:03,271 --> 00:19:05,882 Well, it's the caregiver in you. 441 00:19:05,925 --> 00:19:07,971 Exactly. 442 00:19:08,014 --> 00:19:10,365 And, uh, never mentioned it before 443 00:19:10,408 --> 00:19:12,758 because it's private, 444 00:19:12,802 --> 00:19:17,807 and, um, she was very serious about nobody knows, 445 00:19:17,850 --> 00:19:18,958 'cause she was scared what Russ would do, 446 00:19:18,982 --> 00:19:20,679 but he knew. 447 00:19:20,723 --> 00:19:22,246 He was jealous. 448 00:19:22,290 --> 00:19:24,683 Thought we were ripping each other's clothes off 449 00:19:24,727 --> 00:19:25,815 all the time. 450 00:19:25,858 --> 00:19:28,296 But it wasn't like that. 451 00:19:28,339 --> 00:19:29,645 We weren't lesbians. 452 00:19:29,688 --> 00:19:32,125 - Mm. - We just had this 453 00:19:32,169 --> 00:19:34,519 sexual thing between us. 454 00:19:34,563 --> 00:19:35,670 Betsy getting that from you, 455 00:19:35,694 --> 00:19:38,654 that must have made Russ really mad. 456 00:19:38,697 --> 00:19:40,221 Big time. 457 00:19:40,264 --> 00:19:42,484 Russ and me got physical over it. 458 00:19:42,527 --> 00:19:45,008 We were in the basement playing softball 459 00:19:45,051 --> 00:19:46,792 when Russ comes home. 460 00:19:46,836 --> 00:19:50,187 He goes, "What the hell are you two doing down here?" 461 00:19:50,231 --> 00:19:51,797 [loud crunching] 462 00:19:54,235 --> 00:19:56,541 "If I ever catch you two 463 00:19:56,585 --> 00:19:59,022 "muff thumpers together again, 464 00:19:59,065 --> 00:20:01,024 "I'll stab ya 465 00:20:01,067 --> 00:20:03,679 and bury ya out in the yard." 466 00:20:03,722 --> 00:20:07,030 ♪ 467 00:20:07,073 --> 00:20:08,814 "Muff thumpers?" 468 00:20:08,858 --> 00:20:10,294 That's what he said. 469 00:20:11,469 --> 00:20:14,646 - Huh. - Okay. 470 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:16,169 Well, that's... 471 00:20:16,213 --> 00:20:17,606 Uh-huh. 472 00:20:17,649 --> 00:20:20,043 Thank you for coming in and telling us that. 473 00:20:20,086 --> 00:20:22,001 That's... That's on the record, so. 474 00:20:22,045 --> 00:20:23,220 We'll let you know 475 00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:25,353 - if we have any questions. - That's fine. 476 00:20:25,396 --> 00:20:26,876 Thank you. 477 00:20:26,919 --> 00:20:29,313 Just doing my part. 478 00:20:29,357 --> 00:20:30,662 I'll walk you out. 479 00:20:30,706 --> 00:20:33,274 - Thank you, Detective. - Thank you, Pam. 480 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,071 [door closes] 481 00:20:48,114 --> 00:20:51,030 We're gonna need to rethink. 482 00:20:51,074 --> 00:20:53,555 I agree. 483 00:20:53,598 --> 00:20:56,035 [sighs] It's about time we move away from her lies. 484 00:20:56,079 --> 00:21:01,040 She's not lying. She just keeps changing her story. 485 00:21:01,084 --> 00:21:03,347 And I know Schwartz's whole case is gonna be 486 00:21:03,391 --> 00:21:05,131 making Pam look guilty, 487 00:21:05,175 --> 00:21:07,525 and with this new muff stuff, 488 00:21:07,569 --> 00:21:10,441 it just could be distracting in court. 489 00:21:10,485 --> 00:21:12,225 Especially since she didn't mention 490 00:21:12,269 --> 00:21:13,705 any of it in the first trial. 491 00:21:13,749 --> 00:21:16,012 Well, she was probably scared. 492 00:21:16,055 --> 00:21:17,230 And then look what happened. 493 00:21:17,274 --> 00:21:19,885 Russ killed Betsy. 494 00:21:19,929 --> 00:21:24,063 We can't too much on Pam this time around. 495 00:21:24,107 --> 00:21:25,543 We need more hard evidence. 496 00:21:25,587 --> 00:21:28,764 Well, back in 2011, 497 00:21:28,807 --> 00:21:32,333 Pam mentions an email that Betsy had written her 498 00:21:32,376 --> 00:21:35,510 but not sent. 499 00:21:35,553 --> 00:21:39,383 She said it was a document on Betsy's computer. 500 00:21:39,427 --> 00:21:41,907 But it details how she was afraid of Russ, 501 00:21:41,951 --> 00:21:44,388 how he would hold a pillow over her face, 502 00:21:44,432 --> 00:21:47,173 but no one ever looked for it. 503 00:21:47,217 --> 00:21:48,958 Why? 504 00:21:49,001 --> 00:21:50,916 I don't know. 505 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,614 Well, we need to find the letter. 506 00:21:52,657 --> 00:21:54,572 Joel, listen to this. 507 00:21:54,616 --> 00:21:57,662 "I woke up to Russ holding a pillow over my face. 508 00:21:57,706 --> 00:21:58,944 "Didn't know what was going on. 509 00:21:58,968 --> 00:22:00,337 "I broke loose and started to scream at him, 510 00:22:00,361 --> 00:22:01,666 "asking what he was doing. 511 00:22:01,710 --> 00:22:03,035 "He was said that he wanted me to know 512 00:22:03,059 --> 00:22:06,889 what dying feels like." 513 00:22:06,932 --> 00:22:08,412 Sounds Huppity. 514 00:22:08,456 --> 00:22:10,414 That was just sent over from the DA's office. 515 00:22:10,458 --> 00:22:13,417 [ominous music] 516 00:22:13,461 --> 00:22:19,641 ♪ 517 00:22:19,684 --> 00:22:21,227 Remember the Medical Examiner's report 518 00:22:21,251 --> 00:22:24,385 said that there was bruising around Betsy's neck? 519 00:22:24,428 --> 00:22:26,256 If Pam wrote this letter before the murder... 520 00:22:26,299 --> 00:22:27,518 She would be setting up 521 00:22:27,562 --> 00:22:30,042 that Betsy was gonna be suffocated by Russ. 522 00:22:30,086 --> 00:22:32,131 And that was found on Betsy's computer, 523 00:22:32,175 --> 00:22:33,437 just like Pam it would. 524 00:22:33,481 --> 00:22:34,438 It's weird that they sent over 525 00:22:34,482 --> 00:22:36,614 a little piece of paper. 526 00:22:36,658 --> 00:22:37,963 We need the computer. 527 00:22:38,007 --> 00:22:40,966 We need the original data file analyzed. 528 00:22:41,010 --> 00:22:47,059 ♪ 529 00:22:47,103 --> 00:22:48,210 Hey, Greg. Joel Schwartz here. 530 00:22:48,234 --> 00:22:49,932 I got a rush job for you. 531 00:22:49,975 --> 00:22:51,934 [bird cawing] 532 00:22:51,977 --> 00:22:54,545 [knocking on door] 533 00:22:54,589 --> 00:22:55,807 Front desk says 534 00:22:55,851 --> 00:22:58,680 nobody's changed your diaper in two days. 535 00:22:58,723 --> 00:23:03,772 I cannot come running every time you crap yourself, Mom. 536 00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:07,384 Well, this is what you wanted. 537 00:23:07,428 --> 00:23:10,039 I can't do anything without you. 538 00:23:18,221 --> 00:23:19,483 Come on. 539 00:23:19,527 --> 00:23:20,832 Mm-hmm. 540 00:23:20,876 --> 00:23:23,356 - All right, come on. - What? No, what? 541 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,142 Damn it! Where are my glasses? 542 00:23:26,185 --> 00:23:27,491 I know you took 'em. 543 00:23:27,535 --> 00:23:28,840 You take all my things. 544 00:23:28,884 --> 00:23:31,364 I don't know how I raised such a fat little thief. 545 00:23:31,408 --> 00:23:36,108 I did not take your things. 546 00:23:36,152 --> 00:23:38,546 You should be nicer to me. 547 00:23:38,589 --> 00:23:40,461 Why should I be nice 548 00:23:40,504 --> 00:23:42,854 to a girl who marries a Gunderson? 549 00:23:42,898 --> 00:23:46,031 I'm married to Mark now, Mom. 550 00:23:46,075 --> 00:23:48,512 Mark. Mark. 551 00:23:48,556 --> 00:23:51,384 Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark. 552 00:23:51,428 --> 00:23:55,258 But you made a little Gunderson. 553 00:23:55,301 --> 00:23:58,130 And she's still got you beat. 554 00:23:58,174 --> 00:24:02,047 Sarah is a teacher. 555 00:24:02,091 --> 00:24:05,181 And you're what? 556 00:24:05,224 --> 00:24:07,531 On disability or something? 557 00:24:07,575 --> 00:24:09,533 I make a nice living 558 00:24:09,577 --> 00:24:11,013 with my real estate business. 559 00:24:11,056 --> 00:24:14,320 Well, just go flip your dang houses, 560 00:24:14,364 --> 00:24:17,019 before Sarah takes that too. 561 00:24:17,062 --> 00:24:19,412 Narrator: When a parent hurts a child, 562 00:24:19,456 --> 00:24:21,240 does that hurt get passed on 563 00:24:21,284 --> 00:24:23,678 like a grim inheritance? 564 00:24:23,721 --> 00:24:25,549 All right, ladies and gentlemen, 565 00:24:25,593 --> 00:24:27,943 the next house on the auction block: 566 00:24:27,986 --> 00:24:28,900 Derby Street. 567 00:24:28,944 --> 00:24:30,336 It is a beautiful little house 568 00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:32,164 with two bedrooms, a bathroom, 569 00:24:32,208 --> 00:24:33,949 and a wonderful little kitchenette. 570 00:24:33,992 --> 00:24:36,212 [auctioneering] 571 00:24:36,255 --> 00:24:38,257 Wonderful opportunity for a smart buyer. 572 00:24:38,301 --> 00:24:40,695 85, the woman in blue. 573 00:24:40,738 --> 00:24:44,089 Going once, going twice. 574 00:24:44,133 --> 00:24:46,657 95, the woman in pink. 575 00:24:46,701 --> 00:24:49,094 Pam, what are you doing? 576 00:24:49,138 --> 00:24:51,159 I don't think the lender's gonna give us another loan. 577 00:24:51,183 --> 00:24:53,272 - Shh. - We shouldn't even be here. 578 00:24:53,316 --> 00:24:55,840 You really gonna let this go? 579 00:24:55,884 --> 00:24:58,277 Do we have enough money? 580 00:24:58,321 --> 00:24:59,801 Bow out, Sarah. 581 00:24:59,844 --> 00:25:02,630 It's only gonna get worse for ya, trust me. 582 00:25:02,673 --> 00:25:05,720 Okay, going once, going twice. 583 00:25:05,763 --> 00:25:07,591 Sold to the woman in pink. 584 00:25:07,635 --> 00:25:09,985 Narrator: Pam wins again. 585 00:25:10,028 --> 00:25:11,769 For now. 586 00:25:11,813 --> 00:25:14,337 But could she do it once more in a court of law? 587 00:25:14,380 --> 00:25:16,165 - Oh, boy. - Mrs. Hupp. 588 00:25:16,208 --> 00:25:18,167 Why did Betsy make you the beneficiary? 589 00:25:18,210 --> 00:25:19,647 - Pam. - Pam! 590 00:25:19,690 --> 00:25:21,474 Any comments? 591 00:25:21,518 --> 00:25:24,129 Mr. Hupp, anything? 592 00:25:24,173 --> 00:25:26,436 Any comment at all? 593 00:25:26,479 --> 00:25:28,177 Anything at all today? 594 00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:31,093 Do you have any comment? 595 00:25:33,008 --> 00:25:34,507 - What's that? - Someone from the DA's office 596 00:25:34,531 --> 00:25:37,055 sent those over to me anonymously. 597 00:25:37,099 --> 00:25:38,840 And they change everything for us, Russ. 598 00:25:38,883 --> 00:25:41,494 - What is it? - Luminol photos. 599 00:25:41,538 --> 00:25:44,280 That's right, perfect pictures. No camera malfunctions. 600 00:25:44,323 --> 00:25:45,629 - And... - Wait for it. 601 00:25:45,673 --> 00:25:47,892 No signs of blood, no evidence of a cleanup, 602 00:25:47,936 --> 00:25:50,068 - which means the police lied. - Ha! 603 00:25:50,112 --> 00:25:53,115 [suspenseful music] 604 00:25:53,158 --> 00:25:54,856 ♪ 605 00:25:54,899 --> 00:25:58,163 Hey. 606 00:25:58,207 --> 00:25:59,861 I can't promise you we're gonna win. 607 00:25:59,904 --> 00:26:01,055 I think we learned that last time around. 608 00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:02,951 But I can promise you 609 00:26:02,994 --> 00:26:05,214 that these give us a much better shot. 610 00:26:05,257 --> 00:26:07,477 I've thought about you and this case 611 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,131 every damn day since the last trial, 612 00:26:09,174 --> 00:26:12,090 and I am gonna fight like hell for you out there, Russ. 613 00:26:12,134 --> 00:26:14,571 I appreciate that. 614 00:26:21,186 --> 00:26:26,365 Mrs. Askey, you may proceed. 615 00:26:26,409 --> 00:26:27,149 [clears throat] 616 00:26:27,192 --> 00:26:33,634 [ominous music] 617 00:26:33,677 --> 00:26:36,375 "My name is Russell Faria. 618 00:26:36,419 --> 00:26:38,682 "I just got home from my friend's house, 619 00:26:38,726 --> 00:26:41,293 and my wife killed herself." 620 00:26:41,337 --> 00:26:45,558 That's what the defendant said on his 911 phone call. 621 00:26:45,602 --> 00:26:47,691 But that was a lie. 622 00:26:47,735 --> 00:26:50,389 The first of many. 623 00:26:50,433 --> 00:26:53,479 Betsy Faria did not kill herself. 624 00:26:53,523 --> 00:26:55,394 She was murdered. 625 00:26:55,438 --> 00:26:58,702 And the state will show that the only person 626 00:26:58,746 --> 00:27:03,489 with the means, motive, and opportunity 627 00:27:03,533 --> 00:27:06,101 was Russell Faria. 628 00:27:06,144 --> 00:27:09,582 ♪ 629 00:27:09,626 --> 00:27:11,889 Judge, our case will be based on evidence, 630 00:27:11,933 --> 00:27:13,238 not theories. 631 00:27:13,282 --> 00:27:15,240 And the evidence will clearly show 632 00:27:15,284 --> 00:27:17,634 that Russell Faria did not murder his wife. 633 00:27:17,678 --> 00:27:19,462 The person who murdered Betsy Faria 634 00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:21,725 was the last person to see her alive, 635 00:27:21,769 --> 00:27:24,815 was the person who got the insurance payout, 636 00:27:24,859 --> 00:27:26,817 and the person who has consistently lied 637 00:27:26,861 --> 00:27:29,646 about every single detail of this case. 638 00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:32,605 [sinsister music] 639 00:27:32,649 --> 00:27:39,612 ♪ 640 00:27:44,879 --> 00:27:46,794 Detective McCarrick? 641 00:27:46,837 --> 00:27:50,406 ♪ 642 00:27:50,449 --> 00:27:51,755 Detective McCarrick, 643 00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:54,149 nobody followed up with Pam Hupp's husband 644 00:27:54,192 --> 00:27:56,760 to do an actual interview with him alone. 645 00:27:56,804 --> 00:27:57,935 No. 646 00:27:57,979 --> 00:27:59,458 Nobody bothered to seize his phone, 647 00:27:59,502 --> 00:28:01,765 to verify when Pam's message was left? 648 00:28:01,809 --> 00:28:04,463 - No. - Hmm. 649 00:28:04,507 --> 00:28:07,423 And nobody... nobody bothered to check with the neighbors 650 00:28:07,466 --> 00:28:09,686 to see when she might have got home. 651 00:28:09,730 --> 00:28:12,123 Not to my knowledge. 652 00:28:12,167 --> 00:28:14,256 Can anyone testify where Pam Hupp was 653 00:28:14,299 --> 00:28:16,867 at the time of the murder? 654 00:28:16,911 --> 00:28:19,217 No. 655 00:28:19,261 --> 00:28:21,567 Were you aware that Pam Hupp's financial situation 656 00:28:21,611 --> 00:28:23,352 was so dire at the time of Betsy's murder 657 00:28:23,395 --> 00:28:25,310 that she was several months behind 658 00:28:25,354 --> 00:28:29,097 on her COBRA payments for her health insurance? 659 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:30,098 I was not. 660 00:28:30,141 --> 00:28:34,102 ♪ 661 00:28:34,145 --> 00:28:36,669 How much did Pam gain when Betsy died? 662 00:28:36,713 --> 00:28:42,066 ♪ 663 00:28:42,110 --> 00:28:44,155 $150,000. 664 00:28:44,199 --> 00:28:46,984 $150,000. 665 00:28:47,028 --> 00:28:49,552 No further questions. 666 00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:56,515 ♪ 667 00:29:03,044 --> 00:29:04,567 Daniel Williams. 668 00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:10,225 ♪ 669 00:29:10,268 --> 00:29:12,401 "I need to change my life insurance policy 670 00:29:12,444 --> 00:29:14,620 "out of his name, but can't let him know 671 00:29:14,664 --> 00:29:17,623 "that I have taken him off as beneficiary. 672 00:29:17,667 --> 00:29:19,147 "I need your help. 673 00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:21,323 "I am so tired from the cancer. 674 00:29:21,366 --> 00:29:26,023 "I am so afraid of staying out in Troy alone with Russ. 675 00:29:26,067 --> 00:29:27,372 "If something happens to me, 676 00:29:27,416 --> 00:29:29,940 would you please show this to the police?" 677 00:29:29,984 --> 00:29:32,029 And that was addressed to Pam Hupp. 678 00:29:32,073 --> 00:29:33,422 Correct. 679 00:29:33,465 --> 00:29:36,468 And as a member of the Cybercrimes Task Force, 680 00:29:36,512 --> 00:29:41,517 it's your job to examine all the digital evidence. 681 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,695 Can you please tell the court where you found this document? 682 00:29:45,738 --> 00:29:47,915 I found the pdoc on Betsy Faria's computer, 683 00:29:47,958 --> 00:29:50,265 State's Exhibit 3. 684 00:29:50,308 --> 00:29:53,007 No future questions. 685 00:29:53,050 --> 00:29:58,969 ♪ 686 00:29:59,013 --> 00:30:00,884 What's this letter? 687 00:30:00,928 --> 00:30:02,364 Don't worry about it. 688 00:30:02,407 --> 00:30:06,150 The defense would like to call Detective Michael Merkel. 689 00:30:06,194 --> 00:30:07,630 After you took the Luminol photos, 690 00:30:07,673 --> 00:30:09,240 you testified, back in the first trial, 691 00:30:09,284 --> 00:30:12,635 that they showed absolutely nothing, 692 00:30:12,678 --> 00:30:15,943 because of a malfunction in the camera 693 00:30:15,986 --> 00:30:17,205 that has since been repaired. 694 00:30:17,248 --> 00:30:18,989 Is that correct? 695 00:30:19,033 --> 00:30:22,079 So there were no photographs that were developed that day. 696 00:30:22,123 --> 00:30:24,299 I don't believe so. No, sir. 697 00:30:24,342 --> 00:30:29,695 ♪ 698 00:30:29,739 --> 00:30:32,437 I'd like to show you what is marked as. 699 00:30:32,481 --> 00:30:34,309 Defendant's Exhibit O. 700 00:30:34,352 --> 00:30:36,920 What you see? 701 00:30:36,964 --> 00:30:38,574 It would be 702 00:30:38,617 --> 00:30:41,272 the Luminol photos from the scene. 703 00:30:41,316 --> 00:30:43,187 - [whispering] - Where did he get those? 704 00:30:43,231 --> 00:30:45,668 And do they show absolutely nothing? 705 00:30:45,711 --> 00:30:47,365 No, sir. 706 00:30:47,409 --> 00:30:49,628 There's 130 of them there. 707 00:30:49,672 --> 00:30:55,852 Pull one out. Any one. At random. 708 00:30:55,896 --> 00:30:57,288 What is that a picture of? 709 00:30:57,332 --> 00:30:58,768 Looks like a sink drain. 710 00:30:58,811 --> 00:31:01,727 - Is that absolutely nothing? - No. 711 00:31:01,771 --> 00:31:04,339 Pull out another one. Any one. 712 00:31:04,382 --> 00:31:06,297 ♪ 713 00:31:06,341 --> 00:31:08,386 - Now what's that? - Floor tile. 714 00:31:08,430 --> 00:31:10,649 - Is that absolutely nothing? - No, sir. 715 00:31:10,693 --> 00:31:12,303 So when you said that the photographs 716 00:31:12,347 --> 00:31:13,826 contained absolutely nothing, 717 00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:16,307 you actually meant nothing you wanted to see. 718 00:31:16,351 --> 00:31:17,961 - Objection. - Sustained. 719 00:31:18,005 --> 00:31:20,355 You testified in 2013 that those photographs 720 00:31:20,398 --> 00:31:21,549 contained absolutely nothing, 721 00:31:21,573 --> 00:31:24,750 but today, you now see 130 photographs 722 00:31:24,794 --> 00:31:27,144 of absolutely something, is that correct? 723 00:31:27,188 --> 00:31:29,755 - Yes, that's correct. - Yes, so there's no evidence 724 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,324 that Russ cleaned up any blood in those photos, is there? 725 00:31:33,368 --> 00:31:34,847 - No. - Thank you. 726 00:31:34,891 --> 00:31:36,327 No further questions. 727 00:31:36,371 --> 00:31:43,073 ♪ 728 00:31:43,117 --> 00:31:46,163 The defense calls Greg Chatton. 729 00:31:46,207 --> 00:31:48,774 I work in digital forensics for law enforcement matters. 730 00:31:48,818 --> 00:31:50,602 And you examined the computer file 731 00:31:50,646 --> 00:31:52,996 the prosecution claims is a letter from Betsy Faria? 732 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,780 Yes, I validated the file 733 00:31:54,824 --> 00:31:57,435 and documented the date and times the file was created. 734 00:31:57,479 --> 00:31:59,196 Can you explain to the court what you found? 735 00:31:59,220 --> 00:32:01,831 Mrs. Faria was running Windows 2003, 736 00:32:01,874 --> 00:32:04,051 and when a document is created, she would be tagged 737 00:32:04,094 --> 00:32:06,531 within the metadata of the file automatically. 738 00:32:06,575 --> 00:32:10,187 This is something that the user cannot control. 739 00:32:10,231 --> 00:32:12,320 That's a lot. 740 00:32:12,363 --> 00:32:14,975 So who did the metadata say 741 00:32:15,018 --> 00:32:17,325 created the alleged letter? 742 00:32:17,368 --> 00:32:21,764 - It said "unknown." - "Unknown"? 743 00:32:21,807 --> 00:32:24,027 Hmm. I wonder how that happened. 744 00:32:24,071 --> 00:32:25,550 There are only two ways: 745 00:32:25,594 --> 00:32:27,726 Someone changed the author to "unknown," 746 00:32:27,770 --> 00:32:29,728 or the file was created on another computer 747 00:32:29,772 --> 00:32:31,600 - and then copied over. - I see. 748 00:32:31,643 --> 00:32:33,230 You found something else interesting in the metadata. 749 00:32:33,254 --> 00:32:34,559 What was that? 750 00:32:34,603 --> 00:32:36,213 The metadata tagged this document 751 00:32:36,257 --> 00:32:38,737 as being created in Word '97. 752 00:32:38,781 --> 00:32:40,957 Was Word '97 installed on Betsy's computer? 753 00:32:41,001 --> 00:32:42,219 No. 754 00:32:42,263 --> 00:32:43,568 So it would be impossible 755 00:32:43,612 --> 00:32:45,092 for that document to have been created 756 00:32:45,135 --> 00:32:47,398 - on Betsy's computer. - Yes. 757 00:32:47,442 --> 00:32:48,722 Which means it had to have been 758 00:32:48,747 --> 00:32:50,358 copied over from a different computer. 759 00:32:50,401 --> 00:32:51,620 That's correct. 760 00:32:51,663 --> 00:32:55,493 No further questions. 761 00:32:55,537 --> 00:32:57,278 [clears throat] 762 00:32:57,321 --> 00:33:00,063 The witness may step down. 763 00:33:00,107 --> 00:33:03,414 Are there any more witnesses for the state? 764 00:33:03,458 --> 00:33:06,417 [suspenseful music] 765 00:33:06,461 --> 00:33:13,772 ♪ 766 00:33:14,164 --> 00:33:16,079 [whispering] Leah. 767 00:33:16,123 --> 00:33:18,038 Are you going to call Pam? 768 00:33:18,081 --> 00:33:21,041 [tense music] 769 00:33:21,084 --> 00:33:27,786 ♪ 770 00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:30,267 The state rests, Your Honor. 771 00:33:30,311 --> 00:33:31,723 - [whispering] - Why didn't they call Pam? 772 00:33:31,747 --> 00:33:33,270 If there's something more damaging, 773 00:33:33,314 --> 00:33:35,533 we could discover it on cross. 774 00:33:35,577 --> 00:33:37,187 We could finally nail her. 775 00:33:37,231 --> 00:33:38,884 Very well. 776 00:33:38,928 --> 00:33:40,886 Are there any more witnesses for the defense? 777 00:33:40,930 --> 00:33:47,850 ♪ 778 00:33:55,510 --> 00:33:56,989 The defense rests, Your Honor. 779 00:33:57,033 --> 00:34:03,561 ♪ 780 00:34:03,605 --> 00:34:06,999 We don't need her lies in this court. 781 00:34:07,043 --> 00:34:10,046 ♪ 782 00:34:12,092 --> 00:34:12,266 . 783 00:34:12,309 --> 00:34:13,484 Please rise. 784 00:34:13,528 --> 00:34:16,444 [tense piano music] 785 00:34:16,487 --> 00:34:23,451 ♪ 786 00:34:28,499 --> 00:34:34,157 There's no question this was a brutal murder. 787 00:34:34,201 --> 00:34:36,116 And I'm sorry for the family 788 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:40,772 who had to experience such a horror. 789 00:34:40,816 --> 00:34:44,820 But the investigation of this case by law enforcement 790 00:34:44,863 --> 00:34:46,343 is rather disturbing, 791 00:34:46,387 --> 00:34:47,866 and frankly, 792 00:34:47,910 --> 00:34:50,956 raised more questions than answers. 793 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,177 ♪ 794 00:34:54,221 --> 00:34:57,180 Consequently, as to count one, 795 00:34:57,224 --> 00:34:59,226 murder in the first degree, 796 00:34:59,269 --> 00:35:00,923 court finds the defendant, 797 00:35:00,966 --> 00:35:03,621 Russell Scott Faria, 798 00:35:03,665 --> 00:35:04,970 not guilty. 799 00:35:05,014 --> 00:35:07,190 - [gasps] - Oh! 800 00:35:07,234 --> 00:35:11,325 As to count two, armed criminal action, 801 00:35:11,368 --> 00:35:14,893 the court finds the defendant, Russell Scott Faria, 802 00:35:14,937 --> 00:35:17,635 not guilty. 803 00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:20,638 [hopeful music] 804 00:35:20,682 --> 00:35:27,558 ♪ 805 00:35:49,972 --> 00:35:52,279 [sighs] 806 00:35:55,238 --> 00:36:00,983 [bottle pops] [crowd cheering] 807 00:36:01,026 --> 00:36:02,724 [laughter] 808 00:36:02,767 --> 00:36:05,683 [soft acoustic music] 809 00:36:05,727 --> 00:36:12,908 ♪ 810 00:36:20,481 --> 00:36:25,486 So Mom's killer just gets to walk away and that's it? 811 00:36:25,529 --> 00:36:28,576 ♪ 812 00:36:28,619 --> 00:36:30,012 Looks like it. 813 00:36:30,055 --> 00:36:33,929 ♪ 814 00:36:33,972 --> 00:36:35,060 [elevator bell dings] 815 00:36:35,104 --> 00:36:38,063 [suspenseful music] 816 00:36:38,107 --> 00:36:43,721 ♪ 817 00:36:43,765 --> 00:36:46,158 Leah blew it. 818 00:36:46,202 --> 00:36:49,510 All she had to do was call me to the stand. 819 00:36:49,553 --> 00:36:51,251 Here she comes. 820 00:36:51,294 --> 00:36:55,037 [reporters clamoring] 821 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,433 ♪ 822 00:36:59,476 --> 00:37:00,738 [knocking on door] 823 00:37:00,782 --> 00:37:02,784 [sighs] 824 00:37:02,827 --> 00:37:06,788 Joel Schwartz is here. 825 00:37:06,831 --> 00:37:10,487 Thank you, Tina. 826 00:37:10,531 --> 00:37:11,836 How you doing, Leah? 827 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,316 Just great, Joel. 828 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,946 Look, I'm not sure you're gonna want to do this, 829 00:37:14,970 --> 00:37:16,276 but we have a lot of research 830 00:37:16,319 --> 00:37:17,668 that we are willing to share, 831 00:37:17,712 --> 00:37:21,933 if you decide to reopen the Faria case. 832 00:37:21,977 --> 00:37:23,631 We had the right guy, but thanks. 833 00:37:26,111 --> 00:37:27,306 - All right. - Well, if you change your mind. 834 00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:29,071 Yeah, you'll be my first call. 835 00:37:29,114 --> 00:37:32,030 [dramatic music] 836 00:37:32,074 --> 00:37:39,168 ♪ 837 00:37:39,211 --> 00:37:41,518 - Can I ask you a question? - Of course. 838 00:37:41,562 --> 00:37:43,085 How do you like working for her? 839 00:37:43,128 --> 00:37:46,306 ♪ 840 00:37:46,349 --> 00:37:47,568 I don't work for Leah. 841 00:37:47,611 --> 00:37:48,743 I work for the county. 842 00:37:48,786 --> 00:37:51,223 Doesn't matter whose name's on the door. 843 00:37:51,267 --> 00:37:54,139 This town is lucky to have you. 844 00:37:54,183 --> 00:38:01,321 ♪ 845 00:38:03,845 --> 00:38:08,676 [line ringing] 846 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,242 Hi, this is DA Askey. 847 00:38:10,286 --> 00:38:12,332 I'd like the Sheriff's Office to draw up 848 00:38:12,375 --> 00:38:15,683 a destruction of evidence order. 849 00:38:15,726 --> 00:38:19,034 Yes, all evidence related to the Faria case. 850 00:38:19,077 --> 00:38:24,039 That's items 1 through 214. 851 00:38:24,082 --> 00:38:25,649 Yep, and the evidence logs. 852 00:38:25,693 --> 00:38:27,216 Thank you. 853 00:38:27,259 --> 00:38:28,367 I still think there's evidence out there 854 00:38:28,391 --> 00:38:29,740 I never received. 855 00:38:29,784 --> 00:38:32,047 When I finally got the cell tower triangulation, 856 00:38:32,090 --> 00:38:33,831 it showed that Pam had not gotten more than, 857 00:38:33,875 --> 00:38:35,006 at the very most, 858 00:38:35,050 --> 00:38:36,834 about three miles from the house. 859 00:38:36,878 --> 00:38:39,010 And at the very least, she was still at the house. 860 00:38:39,054 --> 00:38:41,012 And the fact that she lied about where she was 861 00:38:41,056 --> 00:38:42,840 when she called the victim... 862 00:38:42,884 --> 00:38:44,862 But I couldn't get into any of that when she testified... 863 00:38:44,886 --> 00:38:49,194 Well, the 25 years I've been practicing law, 864 00:38:49,238 --> 00:38:51,196 I have never seen anything like it. 865 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:52,981 [slurping] 866 00:38:53,024 --> 00:38:54,904 Narrator: In everyday life, we're all the heroes 867 00:38:54,939 --> 00:38:57,420 of our own stories. 868 00:38:57,464 --> 00:39:01,076 But what happens when our story gets told? 869 00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:06,037 Can you believe this crap? 870 00:39:06,081 --> 00:39:09,737 Maybe nobody will see it. 871 00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:11,303 Narrator: For the first time, 872 00:39:11,347 --> 00:39:17,658 Pam wasn't in control over her own story. 873 00:39:17,701 --> 00:39:20,225 Hello, missy? 874 00:39:20,269 --> 00:39:21,357 - No. - Hello... 875 00:39:21,401 --> 00:39:23,011 - No, no, no. - No, no, no, no, no. 876 00:39:23,054 --> 00:39:26,144 I'm cutting you off. 877 00:39:26,188 --> 00:39:28,059 12 bucks a pop. 878 00:39:28,103 --> 00:39:29,409 12. 879 00:39:29,452 --> 00:39:32,150 What, now you can't buy me a drink because 880 00:39:32,194 --> 00:39:34,152 you bought Sarah's house out from under her? 881 00:39:34,196 --> 00:39:36,111 It wasn't hers. 882 00:39:36,154 --> 00:39:38,505 You owe her big time. 883 00:39:38,548 --> 00:39:41,072 I have half a mind to cut you out of the will 884 00:39:41,116 --> 00:39:43,248 and stick her in your slot. 885 00:39:43,292 --> 00:39:44,989 I pay for Autumndale. 886 00:39:45,033 --> 00:39:48,428 I hate Autumndale. 887 00:39:48,471 --> 00:39:52,475 It smells like spiderwebs and soup. 888 00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,347 You know, you're done, Pam. 889 00:39:55,391 --> 00:39:57,219 I'm cutting you off. 890 00:39:57,262 --> 00:39:59,351 [ominous music] 891 00:39:59,395 --> 00:40:02,311 [thunder rumbling] 892 00:40:02,354 --> 00:40:09,449 ♪ 893 00:40:36,171 --> 00:40:40,654 Aww, thanks, hon. 894 00:40:40,697 --> 00:40:44,527 [thunder rumbling] 895 00:40:44,571 --> 00:40:46,616 You really do take care of me. 896 00:40:46,660 --> 00:40:51,229 I don't know what I'd do with ya. 897 00:40:51,273 --> 00:40:58,367 ♪ 898 00:41:07,071 --> 00:41:10,031 [sinister music] 899 00:41:10,074 --> 00:41:15,427 ♪ 900 00:41:15,471 --> 00:41:17,821 She is down for the count up there. 901 00:41:17,865 --> 00:41:21,085 Won't be down for dinner. 902 00:41:21,129 --> 00:41:23,174 - Or breakfast. - Breakfast, too? 903 00:41:23,218 --> 00:41:25,263 Yeah, she needs her rest. 904 00:41:25,307 --> 00:41:26,526 If you don't from her, 905 00:41:26,569 --> 00:41:29,180 maybe pop in around lunchtime. 906 00:41:29,224 --> 00:41:31,835 Sure thing, Miss Pam. 907 00:41:31,879 --> 00:41:33,837 Happy Halloween. 908 00:41:33,881 --> 00:41:35,752 ♪ 909 00:41:35,796 --> 00:41:39,234 Trick or treat. 910 00:41:39,277 --> 00:41:42,846 - I like your costume! - Ah! 911 00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:45,414 - Will you please wait for me? - [laughter] 912 00:41:45,457 --> 00:41:48,548 [thunder rumbling] 913 00:41:51,028 --> 00:41:55,772 [both chuckling] 914 00:41:55,816 --> 00:41:58,340 Whoa. 915 00:41:58,383 --> 00:42:00,864 That almost looks real. 916 00:42:00,908 --> 00:42:03,867 [ominous music] 917 00:42:03,911 --> 00:42:06,217 ♪ 918 00:42:06,261 --> 00:42:12,223 [screams] 919 00:42:12,267 --> 00:42:18,360 ♪ 920 00:42:18,403 --> 00:42:21,363 [sinister music] 921 00:42:21,406 --> 00:42:28,544 ♪ 62006

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