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Previously, on "The Thing About Pam"...
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Ah!
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- Just give us our money, Pam.
- Or we'll sue you.
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What deposition?
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The one for the girls'
lawsuit against you.
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Hi, this is DA Askey.
I'd like the sheriff's office
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to draw up a destruction
of evidence order.
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How do you like working for her?
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I don't work for Leah.
I work for the county.
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Mike Wood. You working in Troy?
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The DA's office. Nothing major.
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The court finds the defendant,
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Russell Scott Faria, not guilty.
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So Mom's killer just gets
to walk away and that's it?
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Looks like it.
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Well, this is what you wanted.
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I can't do anything without you.
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The past is a powerful thing.
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How it shapes us, changes us.
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And, of course,
how it can inform the future.
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Hey, what's all this?
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Um, it's money.
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- Whose?
- Mine.
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From where?
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Do you still have that big suitcase?
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You know, the one with the tassels?
I couldn't find it.
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Pam, do not do this.
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I just came from the house on Berrywood.
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I thought we were gonna make an offer.
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We... we were gonna
make things work here.
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It's hot today, isn't it?
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It's hot every day.
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You really need to check out Berrywood.
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It's gonna go fast.
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See, that is the problem with Florida.
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It's always hot.
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I don't... I don't wanna wait
till the holidays
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to move to Missouri. I wanna go now.
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- But we had a plan here.
- Well, plans change.
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I changed my whole life to move
to Florida for your baseball.
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We all know how that went.
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Okay, but does all this
have something to do
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with all of that?
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Well, that's just wet cash.
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You always read into things.
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This is about what's best for us, okay?
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Okay. I just don't see what's the hurry.
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I need a change, okay?
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I wanna get away from all these people.
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What people?
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Ugh, Mrs. Fitzgerald
and all of them, everybody.
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Isn't Mrs. Fitzgerald
the one with the gout?
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I thought she already died.
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Yeah, and all of a sudden,
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her family's got some problem with me.
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They won't even let me plan
the memorial service
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even though I got them an in
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with the hottest
funeral director in Naples.
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Okay.
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We don't even have
a place to live up in Missouri.
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We'll stay at my mom's.
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She said that Sarah
is not allowed in her house.
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She disowned her.
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That's just Mom.
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Just, here, help me out.
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Here.
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- Synced and corrected by synk -
- www.addic7ed.com -
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Need to return this. Didn't have a tag.
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I don't know why it never had a tag.
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And I don't have
the receipt neither. Sorry.
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We can only do store credit
with no receipt. Is that okay?
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Mm. I bought this for my dog.
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He broke his legs.
His back legs. Both of them.
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- Oh.
- He has a little wheelie cart.
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You know those? So cute, but sad.
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Now, I just wanted him
to have something nice,
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but it's too small.
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Look, it barely fits on my wrist.
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He's gained some weight.
You know, because...
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- Right.
- I paid cash for it.
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Can I have cash back?
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I'm sorry, it's policy.
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Well, can you talk to your manager?
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Or I can?
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Sure, no problem.
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Wait, that's Pam Hupp?
Like from the "Dateline" show?
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Yeah.
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Here she was,
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the once anonymous housewife and mother,
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now the TV star, the talk of the town.
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The famous Pam Hupp.
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She killed that woman, right?
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Was Pam realizing
she might not be famous,
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so much as infamous?
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- How you doing, Mike?
- Hey.
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Sorry I'm late.
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No, no, I appreciate
you taking the time.
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Of course. Nate says hello, by the way.
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Oh, I owe him a beer.
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So I saw you in the latest
"Dateline" piece.
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You still believe Pam Hupp was involved?
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Yeah, I always have.
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Unfortunately, my opinion,
no matter how well supported,
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doesn't change anything.
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Unless, of course, you can convince
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Leah Askey to reopen the case.
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Yeah, I think she's rather
swallow glass, to be honest.
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It's the truth.
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But what if I ran against her for DA?
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And what if the thing to get her out
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is doing exactly what you wanted?
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Showing who really did it.
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Pam Hupp.
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What else do you know?
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What else can you tell me?
I want the facts to come out.
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We can talk about Pam, sure.
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But what else?
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That's it.
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That's it?
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You're gonna build an entire
campaign around one person?
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An anti-Pam platform?
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No, I'm building it around the idea
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that one person hid the truth.
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That I'm the guy
that can find it, prosecute it,
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and get real justice.
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Okay.
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So Pam.
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Pam. Where do I begin?
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And, I don't know, I just get
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this weird energy and stuff, you know?
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I don't know,
I can't put my finger on it.
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But people were looking at me weird.
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I can't even make a return
without getting chased out.
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Everybody's treating me
like I killed Betsy
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'cause that's what the TV says.
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Hey, Mom, could you just...?
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The whole town
has turned their backs on me.
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I think I'm gonna cry.
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Ugh. What?
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- Maybe we think about moving.
- What?
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Whoa, whoa.
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Well, it's not just you.
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Travis and Sarah and I have
been getting the blowback too.
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You all are being a big bunch of babies.
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I'm the one taking the hits here.
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And you don't see me
running away, do you?
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And what would you have us
do about Derby Road?
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It's a quick flip too.
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Sarah will buy it,
as soon as we're done.
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I wouldn't count on that, Mom.
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Then we can buy up Greenleaf Street.
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There's a fixer-upper hitting
the market in a month.
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I don't know. If you lose
this insurance trial,
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we're gonna need the Derby
money to pay Betsy's girls.
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"If we lose." You think I'm gonna lose?
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All I'm saying is when
we came back from Florida,
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it was your idea.
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- Yeah.
- A great one.
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We all got a fresh start
and it worked out, right?
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- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm. Exactly.
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Yeah.
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It's working out. So why would we leave?
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You want to stay in Florida
and keep flipping, remember?
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That's all's I'm saying now.
Stay and flip.
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Hey, I'm on your side here.
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So what's the problem?
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It's no problem.
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I'm telling you, Britney.
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The coroner ruled it an accident.
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But her system had 14 times
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the recommended dosage of Ambien.
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Now, if Shirley had tripped
and fallen into the railing,
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it would have been only
425 pounds of force max.
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But our engineering expert
tells me that it would take
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at least 2,000 pounds of force
to cause any damage.
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You think someone kicked off the railing
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to break it on purpose?
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Wait, well, we don't know who did what.
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But what we do know is this.
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Someone left a pitcher of water
on Shirley's balcony
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as if she fell
while watering her plants.
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But it was raining that day.
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And for the second time,
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Pam Hupp collected money
when someone close to her died.
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$120,000 of Shirley's investments
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and a share
of her life insurance policy.
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One theory is that Pam Hupp
killed her friend
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and then her own mother,
simply for the money.
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Pam was always here.
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Always taking care of Shirley,
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who wasn't an easy customer,
let me tell you.
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So she was attentive. That's great.
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But did you find it curious
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when the night
before Shirley's accident,
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Pam said Shirley
wouldn't be down for dinner
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and not to worry about
breakfast the next day either?
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No. Not at the time.
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May I ask why?
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She's just such a nice lady.
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That's what I keep hearing.
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I don't think
she's so nice anymore though.
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I'm not sure what I think about Pam.
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Pam was an avid reader of crime novels,
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a fascination that would intersect
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with her own reality.
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Hi, it's Cathy Singer from "Dateline."
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Hey, Cat. Good to hear from you.
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How's Chicago?
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Well, actually, I'm wrapping
things up here in Troy.
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Oh. You're in town.
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Yeah, that's why I called.
I heard about Shirley.
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Yeah, I didn't kill my mom,
if that's what you're asking.
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The balcony did.
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Well, we're doing another
"Dateline," and we should talk.
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Hear your side of things.
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Oh, really? Another one?
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Figured that'd be all wrapped up.
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No, not at all.
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Especially with Russ's exoneration.
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So what do you say?
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Can we set a time to chat?
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No, thanks.
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That funny feeling
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when you're the subject of
a story that just won't end.
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Five years since their mother's death,
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Betsy's girls were still coping.
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And still hadn't seen a dime
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of the insurance money.
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Hey, let me make you some tea instead.
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You'll sleep better.
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No, thanks.
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Well, that looks pretty full.
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Must have a lot to write about.
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I just write about Mom.
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Letters, poems.
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- Letters?
- Yeah.
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Yep. Stuff I wish I said.
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Sometimes, I write to Russ.
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My perspective on things.
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I don't send them though.
It's just for me.
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Oh.
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Well, you better get some rest.
Big day tomorrow.
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It's Pam. Leave a message.
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Hey, Pam, it's Janet.
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I know it's late,
but if you could give me
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a call back, we could get
this figured out tonight.
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There's no need to go
to court tomorrow when...
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Well, you know the right thing.
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Just give the girls their money.
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That's what you told Betsy
you were gonna do.
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- Pam!
- Pam!
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- Here!
- Pam!
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- Over here!
- Pam!
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I think we're all aware
this is a long shot.
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The paperwork's paperwork.
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But we're gonna do our best
to show Pam's hand in this.
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And are we gonna go up on the stand?
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I'm not sure you girls
testifying is a good idea.
259
00:14:28,091 --> 00:14:31,529
Pam's guy will poke holes
and turn sympathy against you.
260
00:14:31,573 --> 00:14:33,575
They made us testify in the last trials
261
00:14:33,618 --> 00:14:35,272
and now we're not allowed?
262
00:14:35,316 --> 00:14:38,623
You're allowed, I just would
advise against it in this case.
263
00:14:42,453 --> 00:14:44,064
Sit here, Mom.
264
00:14:49,852 --> 00:14:51,245
Maybe he's here for us.
265
00:14:51,288 --> 00:14:54,204
He kills Mom and then he wants
to see us get the money? I doubt it.
266
00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,826
Here comes Pam and her creepy husband.
267
00:15:07,870 --> 00:15:09,393
Don't look at them.
268
00:15:09,437 --> 00:15:11,004
I can't help it. They're so weird.
269
00:15:11,047 --> 00:15:12,048
I know.
270
00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,967
Thanks.
271
00:15:29,283 --> 00:15:31,024
Raise your right hand.
272
00:15:31,067 --> 00:15:33,548
Do you swear to tell the truth,
the whole truth,
273
00:15:33,591 --> 00:15:36,420
and nothing but the truth
so help you God?
274
00:15:36,464 --> 00:15:38,683
- I do.
- You may take the stand.
275
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,003
State your name for the record.
276
00:15:54,047 --> 00:15:56,832
Pamela Marie Hupp, H-U-P-P.
277
00:15:56,875 --> 00:15:58,007
And you're the defendant,
278
00:15:58,051 --> 00:15:59,491
the party being sued in this lawsuit?
279
00:15:59,530 --> 00:16:03,578
Mm-hmm. I can... I can hardly hear you.
280
00:16:03,621 --> 00:16:06,668
- Did you hear the question?
- I did.
281
00:16:06,711 --> 00:16:08,452
Judge, I'd like to treat the witness
282
00:16:08,496 --> 00:16:10,019
as hostile at this time.
283
00:16:10,063 --> 00:16:11,890
You may.
284
00:16:11,934 --> 00:16:13,327
You just raised your hand
285
00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:16,634
and you took an oath to tell
the whole truth, correct?
286
00:16:20,595 --> 00:16:21,987
Yes.
287
00:16:22,031 --> 00:16:23,574
The same oath you took
when you testified
288
00:16:23,598 --> 00:16:25,469
in the Russ Faria trial?
289
00:16:25,513 --> 00:16:26,992
Yes.
290
00:16:27,036 --> 00:16:29,235
You understood at that time
that you're obligated
291
00:16:29,260 --> 00:16:32,085
to testify truthfully,
and you did, correct?
292
00:16:33,651 --> 00:16:35,871
Mm-hmm.
293
00:16:35,914 --> 00:16:38,613
I have a traumatic brain injury
294
00:16:38,656 --> 00:16:41,224
and concussion syndrome
from an accident.
295
00:16:43,183 --> 00:16:44,551
Did you have any these memory problems
296
00:16:44,575 --> 00:16:47,709
- during that deposition?
- I didn't think I did.
297
00:16:47,752 --> 00:16:50,494
I don't feel like I do when I'm talking,
298
00:16:50,538 --> 00:16:52,975
but I obviously do.
299
00:16:53,018 --> 00:16:54,909
Would you please read
the letter in front of you?
300
00:16:54,933 --> 00:16:56,370
No, I can't read that.
301
00:16:56,413 --> 00:16:59,895
I need my glasses from my husband.
302
00:16:59,938 --> 00:17:02,637
So you gave law enforcement
incorrect information?
303
00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,205
Yes, that is a correct statement.
304
00:17:05,248 --> 00:17:08,251
Uh, there are also
other statements in there
305
00:17:08,295 --> 00:17:11,211
that do not say that.
306
00:17:11,254 --> 00:17:13,082
They attacked me.
307
00:17:13,126 --> 00:17:15,389
I don't understand what you're saying.
308
00:17:15,432 --> 00:17:18,174
Detective McCarrick pressured
me to open that trust.
309
00:17:18,218 --> 00:17:20,089
It's on video. Mm-hmm.
310
00:17:20,133 --> 00:17:21,395
I can't hear you.
311
00:17:21,438 --> 00:17:24,746
$100,000 of that
I put in a trust for the girls
312
00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:28,010
and $50,000 of that I was trying to give
313
00:17:28,053 --> 00:17:30,186
to this other friend of mine
who was dying.
314
00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:31,622
It was harassment.
315
00:17:31,666 --> 00:17:33,320
It wasn't just them.
316
00:17:33,363 --> 00:17:34,756
I changed my mind.
317
00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:36,105
I can't hear you.
318
00:17:36,149 --> 00:17:37,715
She was obsessed.
319
00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:40,022
Brain injury, remember?
320
00:17:42,329 --> 00:17:43,808
Oh, I remember.
321
00:17:45,810 --> 00:17:47,856
Ms. Hupp, I see you closed the trust
322
00:17:47,899 --> 00:17:50,250
for the Day sisters in December of 2013.
323
00:17:50,293 --> 00:17:54,167
Also in December 2013,
you deposited $134,000
324
00:17:54,210 --> 00:17:56,647
into your personal checking account.
325
00:17:56,691 --> 00:17:57,996
Where did $134,000...
326
00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,235
Wait, what?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
327
00:17:59,259 --> 00:18:00,956
Whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
328
00:18:00,999 --> 00:18:03,001
- Your honor...
- Whoa, whoa, whoa!
329
00:18:04,351 --> 00:18:06,266
I don't know what you're talking about.
330
00:18:06,309 --> 00:18:09,269
This has nothing to do
with me drawing up a trust.
331
00:18:09,312 --> 00:18:12,097
I'd like the court to have the
witness answer the question.
332
00:18:12,141 --> 00:18:13,336
If you don't understand the question,
333
00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:14,989
- you can ask him to rephrase.
- Okay, okay.
334
00:18:15,013 --> 00:18:16,295
But don't volunteer testimony, ma'am,
335
00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:17,775
that's not in response to the question.
336
00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:19,453
That's not in response to...
337
00:18:19,496 --> 00:18:21,890
It's... the trust wasn't made
until after her death.
338
00:18:21,933 --> 00:18:24,501
So that's got nothing to do with it.
339
00:18:24,545 --> 00:18:26,111
She didn't even know I made it.
340
00:18:26,155 --> 00:18:27,741
Well, if there's an objection
to the question,
341
00:18:27,765 --> 00:18:29,376
then your lawyers, they will make it.
342
00:18:29,419 --> 00:18:34,145
Otherwise, just answer
the question, okay?
343
00:18:34,816 --> 00:18:37,742
You deposited $134,000
into your personal
344
00:18:37,767 --> 00:18:40,300
checking account
in December 2013, correct?
345
00:18:40,343 --> 00:18:41,345
Yes.
346
00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:44,018
That's a lot of money for one
deposit into your checking account.
347
00:18:44,042 --> 00:18:45,479
Where did it come from?
348
00:18:45,522 --> 00:18:47,263
What, do you think I'm poor?
349
00:18:47,307 --> 00:18:49,352
My money could've come from anywhere.
350
00:18:49,396 --> 00:18:53,051
Everywhere. A bunch of different places.
351
00:18:53,095 --> 00:18:55,837
Have you lied to anybody else
about what you were gonna do
352
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,579
with these life insurance proceeds?
353
00:18:58,622 --> 00:19:01,451
I lie when people bug me.
354
00:19:01,495 --> 00:19:02,974
And bug me and bug me.
355
00:19:18,076 --> 00:19:19,469
I have no further questions.
356
00:19:23,343 --> 00:19:25,301
He got her.
357
00:19:25,345 --> 00:19:27,477
The court will
stand at recess until 1:30.
358
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,099
I got it.
359
00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:01,931
- Well, I think that went well.
- Yeah.
360
00:20:03,774 --> 00:20:05,559
What's up with you?
361
00:20:05,602 --> 00:20:08,039
Your IBS? I got pills.
362
00:20:08,083 --> 00:20:11,216
No, no, no. I'm fine, I just...
363
00:20:11,260 --> 00:20:13,610
I just can't believe
all those awful things
364
00:20:13,654 --> 00:20:15,003
they said about you.
365
00:20:15,046 --> 00:20:17,179
Well, then don't.
366
00:20:17,222 --> 00:20:19,137
But you said you were a liar.
367
00:20:19,181 --> 00:20:22,924
Everybody lies, Winnie.
That's the world.
368
00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,449
Right. Yeah.
369
00:20:26,493 --> 00:20:29,104
You sure you're okay?
370
00:20:29,129 --> 00:20:30,797
You don't seem like yourself.
371
00:20:30,822 --> 00:20:32,934
Oh, well, I'm not feeling that well.
372
00:20:32,977 --> 00:20:34,849
I've got a sore throat.
373
00:20:34,892 --> 00:20:37,155
Well, maybe I have something.
374
00:20:47,427 --> 00:20:50,821
- What's that?
- It's a lozenge.
375
00:20:52,214 --> 00:20:54,999
You got a sore throat,
you need a lozenge.
376
00:21:19,981 --> 00:21:21,461
Okay?
377
00:21:28,924 --> 00:21:30,488
Hey.
378
00:21:30,513 --> 00:21:33,298
I should've just said I'm sorry to him.
379
00:21:33,342 --> 00:21:34,648
No, don't.
380
00:21:34,691 --> 00:21:36,389
They won't even look at me.
381
00:21:36,432 --> 00:21:38,391
Well, I would've slammed
the door in his face.
382
00:21:38,434 --> 00:21:42,003
I know, I just thought
that maybe he wanted to talk.
383
00:21:42,046 --> 00:21:44,614
Like maybe there was some part of him
384
00:21:44,658 --> 00:21:46,399
that wanted to see us win.
385
00:21:47,588 --> 00:21:49,334
I can't talk to them here anyway.
386
00:21:49,358 --> 00:21:50,968
We'd have to go through Jill
387
00:21:51,012 --> 00:21:54,581
because we don't want any
he said, she said.
388
00:21:54,624 --> 00:21:57,105
It's fine, you know?
389
00:21:57,148 --> 00:22:00,064
Those girls said all they need
to say on the stand.
390
00:22:00,978 --> 00:22:02,589
That's that.
391
00:22:02,632 --> 00:22:04,417
Maybe we should just go.
392
00:22:06,419 --> 00:22:07,550
Nah.
393
00:22:11,293 --> 00:22:14,122
I came to see Pam lose.
394
00:22:16,649 --> 00:22:19,869
So is that it? Are we gonna get to talk?
395
00:22:20,650 --> 00:22:22,130
I don't know.
396
00:22:27,048 --> 00:22:29,659
That's it. It's time
for closing statements.
397
00:22:29,703 --> 00:22:31,095
Really? Are you...
398
00:22:31,139 --> 00:22:32,488
Are you sure?
399
00:22:32,532 --> 00:22:35,665
We... we can still testify.
400
00:22:35,709 --> 00:22:37,667
Pam just said she opened
the trust back up,
401
00:22:37,711 --> 00:22:39,495
right in front of our faces.
402
00:22:39,539 --> 00:22:40,801
It's a can of worms.
403
00:22:40,844 --> 00:22:42,846
Trust me. It's cleaner this way.
404
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,372
Okay.
405
00:22:47,416 --> 00:22:50,680
- If you think so.
- Yeah.
406
00:22:50,724 --> 00:22:52,203
To be honest, Mrs. Hupp,
407
00:22:52,247 --> 00:22:53,877
you didn't do yourself
any favors up there.
408
00:22:53,901 --> 00:22:56,381
Well, it was ridiculousness.
409
00:22:56,425 --> 00:22:57,861
What was I supposed to say?
410
00:22:57,905 --> 00:22:59,863
- Not that.
- Counselor.
411
00:22:59,907 --> 00:23:01,430
Excuse me.
412
00:23:02,736 --> 00:23:04,999
Your Honor, if Mrs. Faria's intent
413
00:23:05,042 --> 00:23:07,218
was to pass this money
on to her children,
414
00:23:07,262 --> 00:23:09,786
the best way to do that
would've been to name them.
415
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:11,832
But neither one of her children
are named on
416
00:23:11,875 --> 00:23:14,748
any of the three policies that she had.
417
00:23:14,791 --> 00:23:18,447
We've heard from not only
Pam Hupp, but multiple people
418
00:23:18,491 --> 00:23:21,537
who've said that Betsy had
concerns as to whether her children
419
00:23:21,581 --> 00:23:25,193
were even reliable enough
to handle the money.
420
00:23:25,236 --> 00:23:29,545
And I'm not about to argue
for Pam's credibility.
421
00:23:29,589 --> 00:23:31,591
She's not a credible witness.
422
00:23:31,634 --> 00:23:33,549
But that's not the issue here.
423
00:23:35,769 --> 00:23:37,988
If you want to know
Betsy's true intent...
424
00:23:40,208 --> 00:23:42,253
This is her intent.
425
00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:45,605
Everything else
is just he said, she said.
426
00:23:48,869 --> 00:23:51,741
I'll ask you this
one more time, Mr. Evers.
427
00:23:51,785 --> 00:23:53,351
Where is the evidence
428
00:23:53,395 --> 00:23:56,964
that indicates what Betsy
intended to do with the money?
429
00:23:57,007 --> 00:23:59,575
The evidence is that it was
intended for the girls
430
00:23:59,619 --> 00:24:01,534
to get the money when they're older.
431
00:24:01,577 --> 00:24:02,883
It has been four years.
432
00:24:06,887 --> 00:24:08,734
Well, I can't just pull
something out of thin air.
433
00:24:08,758 --> 00:24:10,978
It has to be based in evidence.
434
00:24:29,431 --> 00:24:30,606
She admitted that she lied
435
00:24:30,650 --> 00:24:32,216
and she still gets to keep our money?
436
00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:34,436
I do like it any more than you do,
437
00:24:34,479 --> 00:24:35,959
but you know that your mother
438
00:24:36,003 --> 00:24:38,832
did not always
do everything by the book.
439
00:24:38,875 --> 00:24:40,790
It's just one of those things.
440
00:24:40,834 --> 00:24:42,096
Yeah, she trusted people!
441
00:24:42,139 --> 00:24:43,793
So did I even when I shouldn't have.
442
00:24:43,837 --> 00:24:47,231
Hey, you made a good effort.
443
00:24:49,364 --> 00:24:51,584
I guess.
444
00:24:51,627 --> 00:24:53,760
I still didn't get a voice in anything.
445
00:24:53,803 --> 00:24:56,153
- I told you it'd all work out.
- I never doubted you.
446
00:24:56,197 --> 00:25:00,070
- Are they literally skipping?
- So what now?
447
00:25:01,681 --> 00:25:03,639
Now that nobody's gonna take our money,
448
00:25:03,683 --> 00:25:06,033
what do you say? A new car?
449
00:25:06,076 --> 00:25:09,950
One of those SUVs with the TVs
on the seat, like an airplane?
450
00:25:09,993 --> 00:25:12,039
Oh, and we need new carpet.
451
00:25:12,082 --> 00:25:13,475
What money?
452
00:25:13,518 --> 00:25:15,956
We already got a buyer for Derby.
453
00:25:15,999 --> 00:25:18,175
I say we get our next flip.
454
00:25:18,219 --> 00:25:19,960
You really want to hang around here?
455
00:25:20,003 --> 00:25:23,093
Oh, things will go back to normal.
456
00:25:23,137 --> 00:25:24,225
There she is.
457
00:25:24,268 --> 00:25:27,141
I think that's the "Dateline" crew.
458
00:25:27,184 --> 00:25:29,012
Say hi to Cathy!
459
00:25:36,977 --> 00:25:39,849
- Mariah?
- What's up?
460
00:25:39,893 --> 00:25:42,547
Mariah. Hey, you got a letter.
461
00:25:42,591 --> 00:25:43,810
For me, here?
462
00:25:43,853 --> 00:25:45,376
Yeah, I don't know, but there it is.
463
00:25:45,420 --> 00:25:47,572
Listen, I'm gonna need you
to do another tub of roll-ups
464
00:25:47,596 --> 00:25:49,467
before dinner, please.
465
00:25:49,511 --> 00:25:52,253
Hello? Mariah? Okay?
466
00:25:58,302 --> 00:26:00,391
What, are you getting mail here now?
467
00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:02,176
It's from Russ.
468
00:26:11,054 --> 00:26:12,708
What?
469
00:26:15,276 --> 00:26:17,670
Well, even for Russ,
that's pretty harsh.
470
00:26:31,814 --> 00:26:33,729
But I don't get it.
471
00:26:33,773 --> 00:26:36,123
We're halfway through escrow.
472
00:26:36,166 --> 00:26:38,908
And these people just back out?
473
00:26:38,952 --> 00:26:41,171
They just got cold feet. It happens.
474
00:26:41,215 --> 00:26:45,654
But, like, they loved the house.
475
00:26:45,698 --> 00:26:48,352
Mark got rid of that family of racoons.
476
00:26:48,396 --> 00:26:50,833
We built a whole new deck.
477
00:26:50,877 --> 00:26:52,835
It's beautiful. They love it.
478
00:26:52,879 --> 00:26:57,144
So I don't get why they'd just back out.
479
00:26:57,187 --> 00:26:59,755
I don't... I don't know. It...
480
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:03,193
It really could be
one of a million reasons.
481
00:27:03,237 --> 00:27:06,457
Mm-hmm. Don't lie to me, Sally.
482
00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:12,942
It was because of you, okay?
483
00:27:14,025 --> 00:27:17,294
They canceled once they heard
who the seller was.
484
00:27:17,338 --> 00:27:19,035
Mm.
485
00:27:25,346 --> 00:27:27,087
Mm-hmm.
486
00:27:32,527 --> 00:27:34,007
Fix it.
487
00:27:43,451 --> 00:27:45,758
Request for destruction of evidence?
488
00:27:47,542 --> 00:27:51,372
Tina. Hey.
489
00:27:51,415 --> 00:27:52,895
Hey, Tina.
490
00:27:52,939 --> 00:27:56,116
Mrs. Hupp, as I told you
on the phone several times,
491
00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:59,380
Ms. Askey is unavailable,
and she just left for the day.
492
00:27:59,423 --> 00:28:01,077
She just left?
493
00:28:31,586 --> 00:28:32,805
Leah!
494
00:28:33,675 --> 00:28:35,416
Leah!
495
00:28:37,331 --> 00:28:39,159
Leah!
496
00:28:40,813 --> 00:28:42,379
Hey.
497
00:28:42,423 --> 00:28:45,165
- How's it going, Pam?
- Not good.
498
00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:48,124
Keith Morrison and Cathy
stirring stuff up.
499
00:28:48,168 --> 00:28:51,171
Everyone thinks I'm some killer
who steals money from orphans.
500
00:28:51,214 --> 00:28:53,390
And, like, who cares
because it's all lies?
501
00:28:53,434 --> 00:28:56,567
But now it's screwing stuff up
for my business.
502
00:28:56,611 --> 00:28:58,091
Orphans?
503
00:28:58,134 --> 00:28:59,875
You mean Lily and Mariah Day?
504
00:28:59,919 --> 00:29:01,311
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
505
00:29:01,355 --> 00:29:02,704
Those girls.
506
00:29:02,747 --> 00:29:05,228
Ugh. They did this to me, you know.
507
00:29:05,272 --> 00:29:07,404
If they hadn't sued,
then nobody would be pissed
508
00:29:07,448 --> 00:29:09,406
that I'm taking what's already mine.
509
00:29:09,450 --> 00:29:13,149
Well, winning the civil suit
didn't exactly help your image.
510
00:29:13,193 --> 00:29:15,238
Well, as the judge said,
511
00:29:15,282 --> 00:29:18,067
that money went to the person
Betsy intended.
512
00:29:18,111 --> 00:29:21,984
And somehow I've got
the bad reputation here?
513
00:29:22,028 --> 00:29:24,857
I mean, how does that happen?
514
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:26,859
Because it's hard to look like a victim
515
00:29:26,902 --> 00:29:29,078
when you keep winning, you understand?
516
00:29:29,122 --> 00:29:30,906
Oh, right, I see.
517
00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:32,777
That's what's going on here.
I'm winning.
518
00:29:32,821 --> 00:29:35,868
I'm sure it'll flitter away.
You know how small towns are.
519
00:29:35,911 --> 00:29:37,521
I don't want it to flitter, okay?
520
00:29:37,565 --> 00:29:41,134
I want you...
I want you to make it go away.
521
00:29:42,004 --> 00:29:44,180
What am I supposed to do?
522
00:29:45,834 --> 00:29:47,096
If you have a problem,
523
00:29:47,140 --> 00:29:48,639
you should file a complaint
with the police.
524
00:29:48,663 --> 00:29:49,925
File what?
525
00:29:49,969 --> 00:29:53,842
A restraining order
against the whole town?
526
00:29:53,886 --> 00:29:55,124
I don't know what to tell you, Pam.
527
00:29:55,148 --> 00:29:56,627
I've got problems, too, you know.
528
00:29:56,655 --> 00:29:58,158
My reelection.
529
00:29:58,183 --> 00:30:02,226
And this isn't great for me.
530
00:30:02,285 --> 00:30:03,417
So maybe...
531
00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:06,028
Right, your job.
532
00:30:06,072 --> 00:30:07,638
So important.
533
00:30:07,682 --> 00:30:08,857
Yeah.
534
00:30:08,901 --> 00:30:10,293
I get it. I get it.
535
00:30:10,337 --> 00:30:13,427
It's the most important thing
in the world, huh?
536
00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:14,955
See? You get it.
537
00:30:32,463 --> 00:30:34,752
She just can't help.
538
00:30:34,796 --> 00:30:36,667
For all I've done for her,
539
00:30:36,711 --> 00:30:39,844
Leah Askey
could give a squirt of a piss.
540
00:30:39,888 --> 00:30:42,282
If she just put me on the stand,
541
00:30:42,325 --> 00:30:43,805
we'd have won that retrial,
542
00:30:43,848 --> 00:30:45,807
and Russ's ass would still be locked up.
543
00:30:45,850 --> 00:30:48,679
Now the whole world is gonna bug me.
544
00:30:48,723 --> 00:30:51,204
Because Keith and Cathy are making
545
00:30:51,247 --> 00:30:54,424
another "Dateline" about it.
546
00:30:54,468 --> 00:30:58,037
Smearing me all over again.
547
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,779
You know she wouldn't
have a job if weren't for me.
548
00:31:01,823 --> 00:31:05,392
I'm the best thing that's
ever happened to "Dateline."
549
00:31:05,435 --> 00:31:08,656
Well, Mom, we should just move already.
550
00:31:08,699 --> 00:31:11,006
I mean, like,
with all the stuff going on,
551
00:31:11,050 --> 00:31:13,139
- it's not worth it.
- You've been talking to him?
552
00:31:13,182 --> 00:31:15,315
No.
553
00:31:15,358 --> 00:31:18,492
Or not. Or, no, or whatever. I...
554
00:31:18,535 --> 00:31:21,791
Hi. I'm Mariah. I'll be your serv...
555
00:31:23,062 --> 00:31:26,152
My goodness, Mary-Ann.
556
00:31:26,195 --> 00:31:28,415
How nice to see you.
557
00:31:28,458 --> 00:31:30,939
I didn't know you worked here.
558
00:31:30,983 --> 00:31:32,158
Mariah.
559
00:31:32,201 --> 00:31:35,378
Travis and I will have the...
560
00:31:37,076 --> 00:31:39,078
Burger en frites.
561
00:31:42,298 --> 00:31:45,345
- Great.
- For you?
562
00:31:45,388 --> 00:31:47,260
Oh, he's not hungry.
563
00:31:47,303 --> 00:31:50,002
Not feeling himself tonight.
564
00:31:50,045 --> 00:31:52,917
In fact, can we get those burgers to go?
565
00:31:59,402 --> 00:32:01,317
Yeah, maybe Leah's right.
566
00:32:01,361 --> 00:32:03,580
And I should just cut off the people
567
00:32:03,624 --> 00:32:05,060
who don't support me.
568
00:32:06,423 --> 00:32:08,478
Long list.
569
00:32:13,938 --> 00:32:16,115
I cannot believe
she just showed up here.
570
00:32:16,158 --> 00:32:17,999
I mean, the bitch steals
everything from us
571
00:32:18,024 --> 00:32:20,026
and, what, still not enough?
572
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:25,472
But I didn't spit in it.
573
00:32:25,515 --> 00:32:28,301
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no. No. No.
574
00:32:28,344 --> 00:32:29,911
- Pam.
- Mm-hmm.
575
00:32:32,957 --> 00:32:34,437
Yep.
576
00:32:54,153 --> 00:32:56,851
Fast. Good service.
577
00:32:56,894 --> 00:32:59,984
I like it. Keep the change.
578
00:33:05,512 --> 00:33:07,818
Hey. Hey. Are you okay?
579
00:33:09,298 --> 00:33:10,647
Mariah?
580
00:33:13,476 --> 00:33:14,782
It's okay.
581
00:33:15,652 --> 00:33:17,741
You're fine.
582
00:33:26,098 --> 00:33:27,775
What's going on?
583
00:33:29,318 --> 00:33:31,755
Are you okay?
584
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:33,714
Pam wrote Russ' letter.
585
00:33:36,499 --> 00:33:38,545
Wait, wait. Where are you going?
586
00:33:43,202 --> 00:33:44,551
Hey, Pam!
587
00:33:46,553 --> 00:33:48,685
Oh, we forget something?
588
00:33:49,947 --> 00:33:54,648
For the first time
since my mom was killed,
589
00:33:54,691 --> 00:33:57,172
I'm done being mad.
590
00:33:57,216 --> 00:33:59,870
I'm done giving you control.
591
00:34:01,045 --> 00:34:03,570
There's nothing left for you to take.
592
00:34:03,613 --> 00:34:06,312
I'm done.
593
00:34:06,355 --> 00:34:08,531
I win.
594
00:34:09,532 --> 00:34:11,404
Feel better?
595
00:34:11,447 --> 00:34:12,883
Yeah.
596
00:34:14,624 --> 00:34:19,063
Well, nice to see ya. We'll be back.
597
00:34:26,245 --> 00:34:29,204
If so many people bug her and bug her
598
00:34:29,248 --> 00:34:31,380
and bug her,
599
00:34:31,424 --> 00:34:34,514
how can Pam possibly keep up?
600
00:34:53,576 --> 00:34:55,535
One thing about Pam,
601
00:34:55,578 --> 00:34:59,800
she always manages to find
time for other people.
602
00:35:09,201 --> 00:35:11,246
Leah!
603
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,381
Hey.
604
00:35:15,424 --> 00:35:19,428
My daughter's baby shoes.
Her first little pair.
605
00:35:19,472 --> 00:35:21,604
Her first pair?
You don't want to save those?
606
00:35:21,648 --> 00:35:24,259
No. I still have my son's.
607
00:35:24,303 --> 00:35:26,392
Well, thanks, Pam.
I'm sure you have a busy day.
608
00:35:26,435 --> 00:35:27,654
You always do.
609
00:35:29,177 --> 00:35:30,657
Hi.
610
00:35:35,096 --> 00:35:38,795
Pam Hupp. Vote for Askey.
611
00:35:39,796 --> 00:35:42,712
Pam Hupp. Vote Askey.
612
00:35:45,715 --> 00:35:47,717
- Hmm.
- Hmm.
613
00:35:47,761 --> 00:35:50,372
Well, luck with the campaign.
614
00:35:50,416 --> 00:35:52,766
You know you've got my vote.
615
00:35:52,809 --> 00:35:54,550
See you around.
616
00:35:54,594 --> 00:35:56,030
Soon, I hope.
617
00:35:56,073 --> 00:35:57,336
Yeah.
618
00:35:58,772 --> 00:36:01,253
You live over on Kenton Street, right?
619
00:36:02,645 --> 00:36:04,691
Gorgeous place.
620
00:36:24,754 --> 00:36:26,147
Class is full today.
621
00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:28,889
Yeah, right. Let's Zumba!
622
00:36:28,932 --> 00:36:31,544
Class is full.
623
00:36:33,937 --> 00:36:36,288
Oh.
624
00:36:36,331 --> 00:36:38,290
It's full.
625
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:42,424
Hmm. Come on, Minnie, let's go.
626
00:36:43,817 --> 00:36:46,515
I know it was you
with the dead squirrel.
627
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,997
What? What dead squirrel?
628
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,434
We all talked about it.
629
00:36:52,478 --> 00:36:54,306
No one could've done it but you.
630
00:36:55,655 --> 00:36:58,614
Okay, Pam, I think it's time you left.
631
00:36:58,658 --> 00:36:59,963
Oh, you do?
632
00:37:06,970 --> 00:37:08,755
Okay.
633
00:37:08,798 --> 00:37:10,452
Minnie, we should go.
634
00:37:10,496 --> 00:37:12,846
You're sick, in no condition
for working out.
635
00:37:12,889 --> 00:37:13,977
Come on.
636
00:37:14,021 --> 00:37:15,370
No, I'm good.
637
00:37:26,642 --> 00:37:27,643
Boo!
638
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,013
Pamela Hupp took Betsy's life away.
639
00:37:50,057 --> 00:37:52,799
But killers can't get away
with it on their own.
640
00:37:52,842 --> 00:37:54,496
They need help.
641
00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:57,673
Help from a prosecutor protects them.
642
00:37:57,717 --> 00:37:59,588
It's time for
the District Attorney's office
643
00:37:59,632 --> 00:38:03,418
- to stand for justice again.
- Stop Leah Askey.
644
00:38:03,462 --> 00:38:05,986
Vote for a true champion of justice.
645
00:38:06,029 --> 00:38:10,382
Vote Mike Wood for Lincoln
County District Attorney.
646
00:38:16,605 --> 00:38:19,042
- Hey, Pam.
- Hey.
647
00:38:19,086 --> 00:38:22,350
See that funny new commercial,
political thing?
648
00:38:22,394 --> 00:38:23,873
Something about how I killed Betsy
649
00:38:23,917 --> 00:38:25,397
and you let me go free?
650
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,007
Yeah, I saw it, it's Mike Wood.
651
00:38:27,050 --> 00:38:29,749
His whole campaign is about us.
652
00:38:29,792 --> 00:38:30,830
Mm-hmm.
653
00:38:30,855 --> 00:38:34,318
Seems I'm not the only one
with the bad reputation.
654
00:38:34,362 --> 00:38:36,538
Think it'll just flitter away?
655
00:38:36,582 --> 00:38:38,627
No, I don't think it'll flitter away.
656
00:38:38,671 --> 00:38:41,195
If Mike Wood takes over my job,
he will reopen the Betsy case,
657
00:38:41,238 --> 00:38:43,502
and he's gonna go
after you as his main suspect.
658
00:38:45,982 --> 00:38:48,322
Why would I care? I didn't do anything.
659
00:38:49,595 --> 00:38:52,467
Pam, Mike Wood winning
means we both lose.
660
00:38:52,511 --> 00:38:56,123
No. You lose. I'll be fine.
661
00:39:12,008 --> 00:39:15,403
California, it's so far.
662
00:39:15,447 --> 00:39:18,450
Well, far is kind of the point.
663
00:39:18,493 --> 00:39:20,452
I need a fresh start.
664
00:39:20,495 --> 00:39:22,497
Somewhere where I can just be me.
665
00:39:22,541 --> 00:39:24,543
You can't do that here?
666
00:39:24,586 --> 00:39:26,675
Here is where Mom got murdered.
667
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,590
Russ won't even speak to me.
668
00:39:28,634 --> 00:39:30,636
And Pam wins every time.
669
00:39:32,289 --> 00:39:34,117
I just need a break.
670
00:39:34,161 --> 00:39:35,641
I get it.
671
00:39:39,340 --> 00:39:43,475
Oh, just don't get hooked
on marijuana out there, okay?
672
00:39:43,518 --> 00:39:46,390
Okay, I won't.
673
00:39:49,306 --> 00:39:52,048
You need car snacks.
674
00:39:52,092 --> 00:39:53,659
I'll be right back.
675
00:40:01,057 --> 00:40:03,364
I got you something.
676
00:40:03,407 --> 00:40:06,759
You need a fresh one, right?
For all your new adventures.
677
00:40:08,717 --> 00:40:09,979
Thanks.
678
00:40:11,546 --> 00:40:13,461
So you're really going, huh?
679
00:40:13,505 --> 00:40:15,507
You could come too.
680
00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:18,945
But, like,
who's just gonna watch Grandma?
681
00:40:26,996 --> 00:40:28,694
I'll miss you.
682
00:40:29,608 --> 00:40:33,046
Yeah. I'm gonna miss you too.
683
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:38,094
- Watch out for Pam, okay?
- Yeah, okay.
684
00:41:00,290 --> 00:41:02,989
Pam, what are you doing here?
685
00:41:03,032 --> 00:41:05,644
You're sick. I'm taking care of you.
686
00:41:08,611 --> 00:41:12,999
You know, I was thinking what
a great neighbor you've been.
687
00:41:13,042 --> 00:41:16,785
Gee, I wonder if Minnie
would miss me if I moved.
688
00:41:19,048 --> 00:41:22,791
Of course... Of course I would miss you.
689
00:41:22,835 --> 00:41:26,273
See, you lie too, Minnie.
690
00:41:26,316 --> 00:41:28,623
You think I killed Bushy Tail.
691
00:41:28,667 --> 00:41:30,712
Why would you miss me?
692
00:41:32,888 --> 00:41:34,586
Oh.
693
00:41:37,458 --> 00:41:39,808
So... so you...
694
00:41:39,852 --> 00:41:42,332
You're gonna move, you think?
695
00:41:42,376 --> 00:41:44,030
I was thinking about it.
696
00:41:44,073 --> 00:41:46,902
But then I realized
running away from obstacles
697
00:41:46,946 --> 00:41:49,165
is not how you deal with them.
698
00:42:01,395 --> 00:42:04,528
Leah. Cathy.
699
00:42:04,572 --> 00:42:06,922
Mariah. Joel.
700
00:42:08,750 --> 00:42:10,622
They're just all things in my way.
701
00:42:12,275 --> 00:42:15,104
When there's stuff in your way,
702
00:42:15,148 --> 00:42:16,976
what you got to do...
703
00:42:18,673 --> 00:42:20,283
Is get rid of it.
704
00:42:22,729 --> 00:42:26,729
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