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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:18,369 --> 00:01:23,840 We had... kind of put Hellier out of our minds. 2 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:31,165 We knew that Karl was editing everything, and we just kinda let it go. 3 00:01:31,174 --> 00:01:37,184 One of the things that keeps popping up , even Taunia said this to us, 4 00:01:37,430 --> 00:01:42,190 the harder you look for it, the less you're going to find it. 5 00:01:42,811 --> 00:01:47,191 And with everything in this case, it seemed like every time we would 6 00:01:47,607 --> 00:01:51,857 just kind of stop and breathe, and forget about it, some new weird 7 00:01:51,861 --> 00:01:53,111 lead would pop up. 8 00:02:00,036 --> 00:02:03,746 - How's everybody doing tonight? Everybody good? You're gonna be good, 9 00:02:03,748 --> 00:02:06,328 You're gonna be real good, in about ten minutes. 10 00:02:06,918 --> 00:02:11,008 Dana and I are doing a live stream, for the museum members, 11 00:02:11,714 --> 00:02:13,264 and... 12 00:02:15,051 --> 00:02:19,562 I notice that in the live stream, an email has popped up. 13 00:02:19,597 --> 00:02:23,517 And, you know, we use our phone to do the livestream most the time 14 00:02:23,518 --> 00:02:26,058 so we see the stuff that pops in, we're paying attention, cause we're 15 00:02:26,062 --> 00:02:31,003 interacting with people! And this email pops up, and it has a title that's 16 00:02:31,038 --> 00:02:35,945 something to the effect of, you know "Urgent! Life or Death, please respond" 17 00:02:36,906 --> 00:02:40,446 And I thought, well, that sounds important. 18 00:02:41,619 --> 00:02:45,869 And we get stuff like that often with like haunted objects and things 19 00:02:45,874 --> 00:02:49,674 and so I just figured, well it's another haunted object type deal. 20 00:02:51,379 --> 00:02:53,339 So we go through the stream. 21 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,890 We end the stream. 22 00:02:55,925 --> 00:02:59,965 And I remember, "we got this email." So I got back and I open it up 23 00:02:59,971 --> 00:03:02,351 and I start reading it. 24 00:03:02,682 --> 00:03:08,522 And as I'm reading through it, I start to literally shake. 25 00:03:09,522 --> 00:03:11,114 Because 26 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:18,239 it was just an expanded version of the email we got from David 27 00:03:18,274 --> 00:03:20,279 so many years earlier. 28 00:03:20,825 --> 00:03:25,285 So when it finally came time to go to the coordinate points, 29 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:33,173 the thing that was really strange is the night before I left... 30 00:03:33,671 --> 00:03:38,431 I had planned for this trip, I think two weeks in advance, because 31 00:03:38,551 --> 00:03:42,011 I had been going to school at the time. 32 00:03:42,013 --> 00:03:47,813 And it just happened to line up on an in-between area of my semesters 33 00:03:47,848 --> 00:03:49,194 so I had some free time off, 34 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:55,149 I decided to go out, follow up on what I presumed was going to be 35 00:03:55,151 --> 00:03:58,031 one of the last leads that hasn't been looked into yet. 36 00:03:58,066 --> 00:04:01,569 So I was literally at a laundromat late at night, 37 00:04:01,574 --> 00:04:05,084 literally folding my clothes. And you gave me a time, you're like 38 00:04:05,119 --> 00:04:07,462 "I'll be free in like twenty minutes." 39 00:04:07,497 --> 00:04:11,667 And Greg picks up the phone. And the first thing he says, 40 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:14,958 he goes "I've been waiting for you to call me." 41 00:04:14,963 --> 00:04:18,013 "You won't believe what just happened." 42 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:19,925 I go "what?!" 43 00:04:20,385 --> 00:04:22,595 "... the emails started again." 44 00:04:23,054 --> 00:04:25,855 I'm like 45 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:28,640 "what do you mean the emails started again?" 46 00:04:28,643 --> 00:04:34,193 And then Greg reads the craziest, scariest email 47 00:04:34,228 --> 00:04:36,190 I've ever heard in my life. 48 00:04:36,192 --> 00:04:39,652 Alright so it's from Amy 49 00:04:39,654 --> 00:04:43,124 she even has a picture attached to her Gmail address. 50 00:04:43,159 --> 00:04:44,906 9:10 P.M. 51 00:04:44,909 --> 00:04:50,209 "First, if you get this and I'm missing. Take note it's UFOnauts." 52 00:04:50,244 --> 00:04:53,626 Which is a weird fuckin term to use, no one uses that. 53 00:04:53,661 --> 00:04:55,166 [Tyler on phone} Right. 54 00:04:55,169 --> 00:04:56,799 No, you would only use that term if you knew exactly what 55 00:04:56,834 --> 00:04:59,046 that term was associated with. - Yes. 56 00:04:59,048 --> 00:05:01,391 Right. Exactly. Exactly. 57 00:05:01,426 --> 00:05:04,716 "First if you get this and I'm missing, take note it's UFOnauts. 58 00:05:04,721 --> 00:05:08,481 I live by Hail Bridge Road, aka Ruth community. 59 00:05:08,516 --> 00:05:12,806 I heard a lady screaming bloody murder, and begging for the torture to stop. 60 00:05:12,812 --> 00:05:16,001 I had run to rescue. Found no one. 61 00:05:16,036 --> 00:05:19,190 I kept searching, stumbled on the UN 62 00:05:19,193 --> 00:05:22,745 capitalized U-N, space, imaginable. 63 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:27,330 Time is of the essence. As now I am a target for the next ritual 64 00:05:27,365 --> 00:05:28,751 and sacrifice. 65 00:05:28,786 --> 00:05:29,946 My god... 66 00:05:29,954 --> 00:05:32,214 - They are literally this whole town. 67 00:05:32,249 --> 00:05:33,956 Coral cave system. 68 00:05:33,958 --> 00:05:37,708 My name is Amy 69 00:05:37,712 --> 00:05:42,140 my date of birth is 70 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:44,135 Why would you put your date of birth on there? That's a weird... 71 00:05:44,170 --> 00:05:46,425 - Confirmation For confirmation, yeah. 72 00:05:46,429 --> 00:05:51,559 I'm in serious danger and no police will do anything as they are 73 00:05:51,594 --> 00:05:52,559 a part of this. 74 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,560 It's government and extreme military cover up. 75 00:05:55,563 --> 00:05:58,698 I found so much and there's no way to get it. 76 00:05:58,733 --> 00:06:03,153 Marine occult. Cannibalism. Human sacrifice. Child torture. 77 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:06,873 Cave captives and creatures, everything. 78 00:06:06,908 --> 00:06:12,078 - My god. That's all of it, that's all of the stuff I've been reading 79 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:12,962 and thinking about. 80 00:06:12,997 --> 00:06:15,167 That's all of the stuff I've been thinking about. 81 00:06:15,202 --> 00:06:20,511 - The green man. - Hail bridge road. 82 00:06:20,546 --> 00:06:24,296 The entire community, but the heart of your green man is here. 83 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:28,470 I lived seconds away and never seen it or suspected it. 84 00:06:28,471 --> 00:06:31,561 Right under everyone's nose." And that's it. 85 00:06:33,309 --> 00:06:35,399 I immediately 86 00:06:37,730 --> 00:06:39,072 became excited. 87 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:42,187 I... I wanted to know everything. 88 00:06:42,193 --> 00:06:45,953 But then when he started telling me the details 89 00:06:45,988 --> 00:06:49,777 I realized how paranoid he was about 90 00:06:49,784 --> 00:06:54,914 what was inside of this email. And it took a negative turn. 91 00:06:55,706 --> 00:06:57,956 I flipped. 92 00:06:57,959 --> 00:06:59,959 I flipped out. 93 00:06:59,961 --> 00:07:05,841 I didn't... I mean my first thought was, somebody saw "Hellier." 94 00:07:05,842 --> 00:07:11,062 Somebody saw a cut of "Hellier" and now they're trying to 95 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:13,425 inject themselves in this case. 96 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:16,643 Someone is trying to become part of something they think 97 00:07:16,644 --> 00:07:18,654 they're going to get something out of. 98 00:07:18,689 --> 00:07:20,936 And so I lost my mind. 99 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:25,701 Um, I did not. I didn't know who to trust, 100 00:07:25,736 --> 00:07:30,696 I didn't... it didn't help my paranoia. I'm already a paranoid person. 101 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:35,250 And working on the David case had only made me more paranoid, after 102 00:07:35,285 --> 00:07:36,786 being in Hellier. 103 00:07:36,789 --> 00:07:41,039 The idea that there's something watching or someone watching. 104 00:07:41,043 --> 00:07:45,553 And potentially messing with me and messing with people I love 105 00:07:45,588 --> 00:07:47,048 was a scary thought. 106 00:07:47,049 --> 00:07:50,184 "The heart of your green man is here." 107 00:07:50,219 --> 00:07:52,809 What does she call it the green man? You guys know what 108 00:07:52,844 --> 00:07:53,805 the Green Man is though, right? 109 00:07:53,806 --> 00:07:55,846 Like the old symbolism of the Green Man? 110 00:07:55,850 --> 00:08:00,310 I mean, the only thing I knew about the green man is the 111 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:01,863 Kelly green men. 112 00:08:01,898 --> 00:08:03,188 Are we talking about Pan? 113 00:08:03,191 --> 00:08:08,359 Weird, no like so the Green Man, in fact oddly enough, like 114 00:08:08,394 --> 00:08:13,528 you'll see this like symbolism in like Roslyn Chapel, overseas, 115 00:08:13,534 --> 00:08:18,004 Things like that but there's this like old archetype of the Green Man where like 116 00:08:18,039 --> 00:08:21,377 ... you've seen it everywhere, like people use it it's like a very old 117 00:08:21,412 --> 00:08:23,050 Like a nature spirit. 118 00:08:23,085 --> 00:08:25,585 It's a man's' face in leaves. 119 00:08:25,588 --> 00:08:29,128 Yeah, it's overt in Paganism where like they show him aging like a person. 120 00:08:29,133 --> 00:08:31,517 Or like, you know, he ages with seasons where 121 00:08:31,552 --> 00:08:36,602 he turns to winter or this and that but it's this ancient thing 122 00:08:36,637 --> 00:08:40,351 but even that sounds strange where it ties in... 123 00:08:40,386 --> 00:08:44,030 Well here's the thing, like we were saying earlier 124 00:08:44,065 --> 00:08:49,525 I found her court records. Like I know she's a real person, her address is accurate, 125 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:54,779 I can tell she either has a husband or a brother who shares the same last name, 126 00:08:54,784 --> 00:08:57,418 he's in prison until 2026. 127 00:08:57,453 --> 00:09:01,373 So obviously she's not... she's an ostracized part of the 128 00:09:01,374 --> 00:09:02,798 community already. 129 00:09:02,833 --> 00:09:05,753 So the police wouldn't take her seriously anyway. 130 00:09:05,788 --> 00:09:06,753 Yeah. 131 00:09:06,754 --> 00:09:10,384 - Although it's weird because unlike David, who was a fuckin doctor, 132 00:09:10,419 --> 00:09:11,383 supposedly, 133 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:13,304 now we have someone who's on the complete opposite 134 00:09:13,339 --> 00:09:14,977 end of the spectrum. 135 00:09:15,012 --> 00:09:17,472 And is more like someone who is IN Hellier. 136 00:09:17,473 --> 00:09:19,893 These emails aren't from Hellier though, they're from 137 00:09:19,928 --> 00:09:21,734 Somerset, Kentucky. 138 00:09:21,769 --> 00:09:24,111 Well obviously, ok. 139 00:09:24,146 --> 00:09:26,726 - Yeah, I mean I'm a little... I'm a little nervous about you 140 00:09:26,732 --> 00:09:28,692 going by yourself to these coordinates tomorrow 141 00:09:28,693 --> 00:09:29,825 to be perfectly honest. 142 00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:31,530 - Well I mean yeah, you think I'm not anymore, after you 143 00:09:31,565 --> 00:09:32,703 get that tonight? Of course. 144 00:09:32,738 --> 00:09:34,068 My god... 145 00:09:34,073 --> 00:09:35,998 UFOnauts was definitely the first one. 146 00:09:36,033 --> 00:09:37,663 which was one of the trigger words where we were like 147 00:09:37,698 --> 00:09:38,660 "who fuckin knows?" 148 00:09:38,661 --> 00:09:39,661 yeah 149 00:09:39,662 --> 00:09:41,912 - "Who knows? Who saw something?" 150 00:09:41,914 --> 00:09:44,964 So we were super freaked out, super paranoid. 151 00:09:44,999 --> 00:09:45,883 Like, what happened. 152 00:09:45,918 --> 00:09:47,798 Because UFOnauts is like a word that's been around for 153 00:09:47,833 --> 00:09:49,205 decades but - You never hear it. 154 00:09:49,213 --> 00:09:51,264 - Like Strand is the guy that uses that word. 155 00:09:51,299 --> 00:09:53,879 - Yeah exactly. Like the only person I've ever heard say it 156 00:09:54,343 --> 00:09:59,143 outside of this case and the people involved in this case, 157 00:09:59,178 --> 00:10:00,565 is like, Tenney. 158 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,850 But that's because Tenney is old school. 159 00:10:03,019 --> 00:10:05,769 You never hear it in everyday... 160 00:10:05,771 --> 00:10:08,521 It's a very old school word, because now it's just "aliens" 161 00:10:08,524 --> 00:10:11,114 but that used to be the word for the pilots of the UFO's. 162 00:10:11,149 --> 00:10:12,820 Which is very 1950's. 163 00:10:13,029 --> 00:10:16,619 So this first email, this first email. I'm looking at it right here. 164 00:10:16,866 --> 00:10:20,286 Right in the first message she has everything condensed. 165 00:10:20,321 --> 00:10:21,866 And she's talking about 166 00:10:21,871 --> 00:10:25,831 the occult, cannibalism, human sacrifice, child torture, 167 00:10:25,833 --> 00:10:28,883 cave captives, creatures, everything. 168 00:10:28,918 --> 00:10:31,168 Is literally what she lays out. 169 00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:33,132 In this first message. 170 00:10:33,167 --> 00:10:34,056 And 171 00:10:34,091 --> 00:10:36,892 what set me off on this paranoia 172 00:10:36,927 --> 00:10:40,717 is, when you and I had first started talking, 173 00:10:40,723 --> 00:10:45,063 from the get-go, before Hellier became a thing, 174 00:10:45,098 --> 00:10:46,694 remember when I brought up randomly 175 00:10:46,729 --> 00:10:49,769 I said have you ever looked into these missing persons' cases 176 00:10:49,774 --> 00:10:51,073 that seem to be strange? 177 00:10:51,108 --> 00:10:53,818 I had always been bugging you about the goblins case because 178 00:10:53,819 --> 00:10:58,409 it fascinated me. And way earlier one of the first things I researched 179 00:10:58,444 --> 00:11:00,277 about you was that case. 180 00:11:00,284 --> 00:11:02,793 And that resonated with me. 181 00:11:02,828 --> 00:11:07,878 Because way, way back, years ago, I actually received this book. 182 00:11:07,913 --> 00:11:10,760 I actually think I got this for Christmas. 183 00:11:10,795 --> 00:11:15,335 Oddly enough. It's basically a compilation of just really bizarre 184 00:11:15,341 --> 00:11:18,051 reports that don't really fit the bill of anything. 185 00:11:18,052 --> 00:11:21,682 And one of the category of reports that always stuck with me 186 00:11:21,717 --> 00:11:23,471 more than anything else, 187 00:11:23,474 --> 00:11:26,686 were these subterranean tales. 188 00:11:26,721 --> 00:11:29,862 And those tales had to do with 189 00:11:29,897 --> 00:11:33,897 cave captives, people being kept underground, and these 190 00:11:33,901 --> 00:11:37,233 kinda weird, sadistic type scenarios. 191 00:11:37,268 --> 00:11:40,566 So the second this email came through, 192 00:11:40,574 --> 00:11:44,044 and the second I had been on that tangent about missing persons 193 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:45,347 along the Appalachian range, 194 00:11:45,382 --> 00:11:46,615 it all clicked in my head. 195 00:11:46,622 --> 00:11:50,252 I didn't know what to do, I didn't know who to trust, 196 00:11:50,287 --> 00:11:53,886 the only thing that seemed right at the time was 197 00:11:53,921 --> 00:11:57,801 Strand was preparing to go to the coordinates from the Wriste emails 198 00:11:57,836 --> 00:12:01,050 literally the next day. The timing was so suspicious. 199 00:12:01,429 --> 00:12:03,259 It was SO suspicious. 200 00:12:04,181 --> 00:12:09,360 And Strand, who was previously really excited 201 00:12:09,395 --> 00:12:13,815 to go to the coordinates was now losing his mind freaking out. 202 00:12:14,024 --> 00:12:15,034 Because... 203 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:19,820 I was reading him, I remember reading him the emails on the phone. 204 00:12:20,197 --> 00:12:23,697 And hearing him get concerned. 205 00:12:23,993 --> 00:12:26,623 Because he was going by himself, alone, to a place he'd never 206 00:12:26,658 --> 00:12:28,330 been before that's in the mountains. 207 00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:36,335 It was really scary. And frightening. And really frustrating. 208 00:12:36,547 --> 00:12:38,087 I lost my shit. 209 00:12:38,841 --> 00:12:40,391 I lost my shit. 210 00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:42,926 And it made me really paranoid. 211 00:12:42,928 --> 00:12:47,138 Really, for... months. 212 00:12:47,141 --> 00:12:49,641 I mean I'm still paranoid about it. Because we don't know 213 00:12:49,643 --> 00:12:51,443 what to do with it yet. 214 00:12:52,938 --> 00:12:57,450 I told Dana, not too long before you called, 215 00:12:57,485 --> 00:13:01,235 it's... I don't know I can't shake the feeling that there's 216 00:13:01,238 --> 00:13:03,488 somebody or something, 217 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:08,910 with some weird over-arching view, 218 00:13:08,913 --> 00:13:11,372 that went "yep, here you go. 219 00:13:11,407 --> 00:13:13,832 It's the right time. Boom." 220 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:21,633 Ok. 221 00:13:23,886 --> 00:13:27,136 So this woman emailed me back at 3:58 this morning. 222 00:13:27,139 --> 00:13:30,269 No but tell me, first of all tell me 223 00:13:30,304 --> 00:13:32,977 the research that we did last night. 224 00:13:32,978 --> 00:13:37,818 One of her relatives is in prison for ten years. 225 00:13:37,853 --> 00:13:40,647 Another one is in prison for twenty. 226 00:13:41,111 --> 00:13:44,580 They are a very rough group of people. 227 00:13:44,615 --> 00:13:50,155 And clearly have a lot of. A lot of legal problems. 228 00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:52,922 Not the type of people you'd just want to get mixed up with. 229 00:13:52,957 --> 00:13:53,705 No. 230 00:13:59,088 --> 00:14:00,356 Are you good? 231 00:14:00,391 --> 00:14:01,625 Yeah. 232 00:14:03,592 --> 00:14:08,346 So this woman, Amy --- 233 00:14:08,381 --> 00:14:13,101 wrote back at 3:58 AM. 234 00:14:13,102 --> 00:14:14,652 3:58 AM. 235 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:15,645 Holy shit. 236 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:19,689 Are you ready? 237 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:20,782 My god, Greg. 238 00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:23,452 "Wiccan marine occult. In July, 239 00:14:23,487 --> 00:14:28,277 me and my ex-boyfriend were staying in a camper near the lake. 240 00:14:28,284 --> 00:14:32,374 It was very secluded, no running water, no electricity, nothing 241 00:14:32,409 --> 00:14:34,291 but nature, me and him and a few flashlights 242 00:14:34,326 --> 00:14:35,500 and beam lanterns. 243 00:14:35,541 --> 00:14:38,634 Late one night, we believed a bobcat scream then it got 244 00:14:38,669 --> 00:14:41,209 deeper and began saying words. 245 00:14:41,213 --> 00:14:44,380 Pleading for whatever or whoever to stop the torture. 246 00:14:44,415 --> 00:14:47,548 I immediately ran to rescue. My boyfriend grabbed me 247 00:14:47,553 --> 00:14:49,103 and pulled me back in, 248 00:14:49,138 --> 00:14:51,428 maniacally turning lights off and covering my mouth. 249 00:14:51,432 --> 00:14:56,272 He said "there's nothing we can do for her with no weapons besides 250 00:14:56,307 --> 00:14:58,310 getting ourselves killed too." 251 00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:03,611 I had to listen to her for the next 30 minutes until she grew silent. 252 00:15:04,486 --> 00:15:07,696 Finally daylight came and I began the hunt, 253 00:15:07,698 --> 00:15:10,028 tracking and marking each track as I searched. 254 00:15:10,034 --> 00:15:14,664 I hiked to discover a cabin that I had, in fact, been familiar with 255 00:15:14,699 --> 00:15:16,255 for seventeen years, 256 00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:18,750 but it seemed like I was seeing the cabin for the first time. 257 00:15:19,251 --> 00:15:24,421 Caged windows, and doors, and not one but two thick log chains. 258 00:15:24,423 --> 00:15:27,723 And a gate across the drive with military grade padlocks 259 00:15:27,758 --> 00:15:30,468 on the thick metal cage entrance. 260 00:15:30,471 --> 00:15:32,641 No way in. 261 00:15:33,724 --> 00:15:36,775 Mind you, I was determined to help. 262 00:15:36,810 --> 00:15:39,980 So I crawled in under the cage and went in against my better 263 00:15:40,015 --> 00:15:41,030 judgement. 264 00:15:41,065 --> 00:15:45,235 Beds were chained to rafters. In the attic, blood and feces stained 265 00:15:45,270 --> 00:15:46,895 the beds. 266 00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:50,574 Trap doors, booby traps, weird designs. 267 00:15:50,609 --> 00:15:52,244 And human bones. 268 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:56,330 I found bleeding bowls. Human teeth. 269 00:15:56,365 --> 00:15:59,040 Bone carvings, weird photos. 270 00:15:59,041 --> 00:16:00,831 And a lot of paperwork. 271 00:16:00,834 --> 00:16:04,964 They have a system. They park cars at them and set timers 272 00:16:04,999 --> 00:16:06,305 for the power. 273 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:08,180 And then they tunnel underground. 274 00:16:08,215 --> 00:16:11,465 Faces in the trees. 275 00:16:11,887 --> 00:16:15,767 I called the police, and they all but told me they needed more. 276 00:16:15,802 --> 00:16:18,976 I had nothing but breaking and entering to go with. 277 00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:22,613 I found that I now was in definite danger 278 00:16:22,648 --> 00:16:24,528 when I learned that they were performing rituals 279 00:16:24,563 --> 00:16:27,645 based on Pagan/Wiccan beliefs. 280 00:16:28,237 --> 00:16:30,987 I'm alone with no family or friends. 281 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:35,084 All have been ruined by... this craziness. 282 00:16:35,119 --> 00:16:40,209 I'm terribly scared and I've found that this entire town is a part of it. 283 00:16:40,244 --> 00:16:42,591 It's ground zero. 284 00:16:42,626 --> 00:16:46,416 The out of towners are members, and the local elders? 285 00:16:46,422 --> 00:16:48,592 Well, they're all aware. 286 00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:53,177 Trust me. The caves and the caverns and the mines 287 00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:56,772 go from Virginia to Ohio to Indiana and Tennessee. 288 00:16:56,807 --> 00:17:02,227 I have a boat to take to the entrance, but I do not want to go in them again 289 00:17:02,229 --> 00:17:05,569 until I know I have backup that they're afraid of. 290 00:17:05,604 --> 00:17:08,526 The gatekeeper is the scariest of them all. 291 00:17:09,111 --> 00:17:11,611 He can actually perform magic. 292 00:17:11,613 --> 00:17:13,993 Trust me, I'm a skeptic. 293 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:18,585 I literally began to suffocate as he whispered and blew 294 00:17:18,620 --> 00:17:23,380 me a kiss, holding this curved, weird walking stick and a crystal. 295 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:26,460 Most everyone I know is involved. 296 00:17:26,495 --> 00:17:29,045 The CIA, and the Marines, and Navy. 297 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:32,548 It is so insane that I almost didn't write you, 298 00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:34,091 expecting you to write it off. 299 00:17:34,094 --> 00:17:39,064 But I'm out of options and will, in fact, be murdered 300 00:17:39,099 --> 00:17:41,518 in these hills if someone doesn't help me. 301 00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:44,791 I've seen things that will blow your mind 302 00:17:44,826 --> 00:17:47,480 and forever change your reality for good. 303 00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:52,153 It did mine, and now I'm scared, alone, and hopeless 304 00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:53,914 and I'm turning to you. 305 00:17:55,532 --> 00:17:58,412 Please. Tread quietly." 306 00:18:00,245 --> 00:18:03,380 I don't know. 307 00:18:03,415 --> 00:18:08,205 This is, this is just... unbridled insanity. 308 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:12,671 She just emailed again. 12:17 P.M. 309 00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:17,603 "I can't go back to get photos of the blood, hair, teeth 310 00:18:17,638 --> 00:18:20,466 I have them actually in a secure location on 311 00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:27,321 2. Is a link. 3. The Green Man is a god they worship. 312 00:18:27,356 --> 00:18:30,396 I believe that they held their victims captive underground. 313 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,740 You always hear the hum of the ground." 314 00:18:33,403 --> 00:18:36,262 Agh, this is exactly what Tyler was talking about last night. 315 00:18:36,297 --> 00:18:39,122 But here's the thing, here's what's very strange... 316 00:18:39,157 --> 00:18:40,658 it's exactly what David said. 317 00:18:40,661 --> 00:18:43,712 You realize that, right? 318 00:18:43,747 --> 00:18:46,167 It's like, this is, this is another David email 319 00:18:46,202 --> 00:18:47,286 - Yeah, but David sent pictures. 320 00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:50,382 - Yeah but what I'm trying to say is this is the equivalent of 321 00:18:50,417 --> 00:18:52,089 a David email, 322 00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:54,932 all of these years later. 323 00:18:55,342 --> 00:18:58,560 - It is. It's the same thing. 324 00:18:58,595 --> 00:19:01,135 - It's somebody trying to get us to go out to the fucking middle 325 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,940 of nowhere, in Kentucky... 326 00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:05,385 She gave her name, her date of birth, 327 00:19:05,394 --> 00:19:08,694 she gave addresses, it was like... an answer 328 00:19:08,729 --> 00:19:10,364 to the David emails in a way. 329 00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:13,149 Everything that frustrated us about the original case, 330 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:16,322 everything that frustrated us about going out to Hellier, 331 00:19:16,357 --> 00:19:19,540 finding out David was a ghost. 332 00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:21,785 That we didn't have an address for his house, that we 333 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:24,655 had to just take a lot of that stuff on faith... 334 00:19:25,581 --> 00:19:28,631 Those answers were served up on a silver platter in these emails. 335 00:19:30,419 --> 00:19:33,709 "It wasn't until the Beltane holiday that I realized it was to be 336 00:19:33,714 --> 00:19:35,055 a holiday feast. 337 00:19:35,090 --> 00:19:37,550 Big South Fork is where they have held the 338 00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:38,843 green man for ages. 339 00:19:39,344 --> 00:19:44,354 SLUF is actually little troll-looking things but powerful! 340 00:19:45,893 --> 00:19:51,153 But now she's saying "sluf", s- l-u-f, like on the coordinates. 341 00:19:51,648 --> 00:19:53,532 Sluf is on the coordinates? 342 00:19:53,567 --> 00:19:55,607 - Yeah, on the old picture of the coordinates. 343 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:03,950 He was an old, he was an old 344 00:20:03,952 --> 00:20:06,712 Vietnam War guy supposedly. 345 00:20:06,747 --> 00:20:10,841 And sluf, the only real reference to it, is 346 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:15,206 old slang from the Vietnam War that meant "short little ugly fucker." 347 00:20:15,672 --> 00:20:18,762 Which was like a racist term for the Vietnamese. 348 00:20:20,093 --> 00:20:22,933 "Short little ugly fucker." Goblins. 349 00:20:22,968 --> 00:20:24,260 Goblins. 350 00:20:24,264 --> 00:20:29,774 And he wrote it on this... picture. Whatever this thing is that he sent. 351 00:20:30,812 --> 00:20:34,272 Ok, this is getting very fuckin weird. 352 00:20:34,274 --> 00:20:36,491 And making me very suspicious. 353 00:20:36,526 --> 00:20:41,066 - "Little troll looking things but powerful. I found the entire system." 354 00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:45,491 I'm wigged out the whole time. I'm driving. 355 00:20:45,526 --> 00:20:48,409 The next day comes by, I pack all my stuff. 356 00:20:48,413 --> 00:20:52,333 And I start driving for, I think, seven hours to North Carolina. 357 00:20:52,793 --> 00:20:54,923 And the whole time, I'm just... 358 00:20:55,587 --> 00:20:57,627 I don't even know what's going through my head, 359 00:20:57,631 --> 00:20:59,051 I'm thinking about all this stuff. 360 00:20:59,086 --> 00:21:00,089 Sluf?! 361 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:04,809 That's on the coordinates. That Tyler is going to right now! 362 00:21:06,223 --> 00:21:08,983 Why would she drop that word RIGHT now?! 363 00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:10,936 He's literally on the way there. 364 00:21:14,731 --> 00:21:17,441 Who the fuck is this person?! 365 00:21:18,402 --> 00:21:23,622 What is happening?! I'm so fucking paranoid and confused. 366 00:21:31,081 --> 00:21:36,171 Alright, it is February 3rd. 1:35 P.M. 2018. 367 00:21:36,206 --> 00:21:38,709 My name is Tyler Strand. 368 00:21:39,214 --> 00:21:43,344 And I'm about to head to the Terry Wriste coordinate points. 369 00:21:48,265 --> 00:21:52,345 Again. my drive, my drive for curiosity and 370 00:21:52,352 --> 00:21:57,902 my drive to know what's going on overrides my fear of this. 371 00:21:57,937 --> 00:22:01,489 I still wanted to know. I still wanted to know. 372 00:22:17,044 --> 00:22:18,134 Is this email four? 373 00:22:18,253 --> 00:22:21,972 It's 2:37 P.M. She just emailed back. 374 00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:25,137 "You fortunately have been already on their radar. 375 00:22:25,172 --> 00:22:26,755 Significantly enough. 376 00:22:26,762 --> 00:22:30,142 I was told to contact you from a man named Doug. 377 00:22:30,265 --> 00:22:33,975 He said to make sure I had been in contact so if I do get taken 378 00:22:33,977 --> 00:22:37,517 it will further put them under scope so they might be hesitant. 379 00:22:37,522 --> 00:22:40,322 There's too much in this location that they can't just pack up. 380 00:22:40,357 --> 00:22:41,317 I've seen them. 381 00:22:41,318 --> 00:22:44,202 I have been first hand with the fact 382 00:22:44,237 --> 00:22:48,137 that it's US, wolfpack, military, Marines, occult, 383 00:22:48,172 --> 00:22:51,854 aka UFOnauts. I'm sorry I've nothing to show you. 384 00:22:51,889 --> 00:22:55,537 Believe me, I've had everything taken from me. 385 00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:59,669 I even had paperwork from the children they keep in the mines." 386 00:22:59,704 --> 00:23:03,799 Ok. So oddly enough I'm almost at the coordinate points. 387 00:23:03,834 --> 00:23:05,682 I don't see anything yet. 388 00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:10,062 But what's super weird, I found this balloon here. 389 00:23:10,097 --> 00:23:13,977 And I think it's the same balloon I found that other piece to. 390 00:23:14,012 --> 00:23:19,355 I finally reached, probably within 20 feet, 391 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:22,230 of the pinpoint. 392 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:26,364 And on the ground, 393 00:23:27,489 --> 00:23:31,579 I see in the middle of the forest this really old, shiny, balloon. 394 00:23:31,993 --> 00:23:34,211 On the ground. And I pick it up. 395 00:23:34,246 --> 00:23:38,246 It's a "Happy Birthday" balloon. Just kinda laying there. 396 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:42,108 Just in the middle of the woods, middle of nowhere. 397 00:23:42,143 --> 00:23:44,965 Almost like they had a balloon marking this spot. 398 00:23:57,060 --> 00:23:59,560 Means it's right up there. 399 00:24:00,063 --> 00:24:01,863 Right through there. 400 00:24:28,258 --> 00:24:31,008 So the actual spot, when I reached it, 401 00:24:34,347 --> 00:24:36,347 was one part confusion, 402 00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:40,022 one part disappointment, 403 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:43,943 with maybe a little bit of relief 404 00:24:44,357 --> 00:24:46,357 that I finally found it. 405 00:24:46,776 --> 00:24:49,646 And it was disappointment because 406 00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:51,485 there was nothing there. 407 00:24:52,407 --> 00:24:56,827 The exact pinpoint spot, there was nothing there. There was nothing 408 00:24:56,828 --> 00:24:59,288 hidden that I could tell. 409 00:24:59,289 --> 00:25:03,300 There was nothing in the lands' geography that 410 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:07,085 made me think that there was some kind of rock outcropping that 411 00:25:07,088 --> 00:25:09,628 maybe had some cave entrance, 412 00:25:09,883 --> 00:25:13,893 The particular location of the exact coordinates spot was 413 00:25:13,928 --> 00:25:16,137 very, very, mundane. 414 00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:25,194 I'm standing at the spot. 415 00:25:26,107 --> 00:25:28,147 There's nothing here. 416 00:25:28,985 --> 00:25:31,815 My god dude, you know what? 417 00:25:31,821 --> 00:25:34,281 I walked up to this big gnarly tree. 418 00:25:34,699 --> 00:25:37,869 And it looks fresh, like somebody came in and just 419 00:25:37,904 --> 00:25:40,789 fuckin decimated a tree, like blew it apart. 420 00:25:41,831 --> 00:25:43,715 This is so fucked up. 421 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:46,130 It doesn't look like there's anything here that's 422 00:25:46,165 --> 00:25:47,497 being covered by this debris. 423 00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:50,222 I don't even know how this tree was taken down, 424 00:25:50,257 --> 00:25:53,507 like was it just cut and it blew off that way with the bark? 425 00:25:53,969 --> 00:25:56,849 What's strange is when I'm standing on the spot, 426 00:25:56,884 --> 00:25:59,806 I start hearing this low rumble. 427 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,730 And at first I'm like "woah is this the rumble in the ground?" 428 00:26:04,765 --> 00:26:07,149 "Is this the rumble in the ground?!" 429 00:26:09,109 --> 00:26:10,689 Holy shit. 430 00:26:26,209 --> 00:26:27,999 Helicopter. 431 00:26:37,012 --> 00:26:40,892 My god! Look at this. 432 00:26:43,852 --> 00:26:45,902 Shit they know I'm here. 433 00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:47,898 Fuck. 434 00:26:48,315 --> 00:26:50,935 And then right over my head, whoosh! 435 00:26:50,942 --> 00:26:54,154 This helicopter flies above the trees like straight 436 00:26:54,189 --> 00:26:57,777 over me. And whether that was just coincidence or not, 437 00:26:57,812 --> 00:27:01,365 In this paranoid state I'm like "somebody knows I'm here" 438 00:27:01,369 --> 00:27:03,557 I'm thinking, "Somebody knows I'm here!" 439 00:27:03,592 --> 00:27:05,745 I hurry up, that's actually the first thing I say 440 00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:07,329 when I call Greg back. 441 00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:10,634 I think, somebody knows I'm here. 442 00:27:11,087 --> 00:27:14,797 This might be coincidence, a fucking helicopter 443 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,433 just flew right over my head. 444 00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:17,758 Right in line with where I'm standing. 445 00:27:19,262 --> 00:27:21,730 I don't know man! 446 00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:24,425 I'm wigging out, clearly still paranoid, because 447 00:27:24,434 --> 00:27:25,817 we're thinking like, 448 00:27:25,852 --> 00:27:27,694 these people want us dead. 449 00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:30,899 Because at this point in time you had emails that said 450 00:27:30,934 --> 00:27:33,859 "they're aware of you. You've been on their radar 451 00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:34,860 for quite some time." 452 00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:39,202 "You fortunately have already been on their radar." 453 00:27:39,237 --> 00:27:41,333 Fortunately? - "Significantly enough." 454 00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:44,038 "I was told to contact you from a man named Doug." 455 00:27:44,073 --> 00:27:46,327 Who the fuck is Doug? 456 00:27:47,832 --> 00:27:50,882 Who the fuck is Doug?! 457 00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:55,875 goddamnit we were so close 458 00:27:55,924 --> 00:27:57,766 We were so fucking close! 459 00:27:57,801 --> 00:28:01,011 I'm here, I'm fucking here. There should be something 460 00:28:01,012 --> 00:28:03,312 fucking here, and maybe there was. 461 00:28:03,347 --> 00:28:04,926 But now the marker is gone. 462 00:28:07,268 --> 00:28:11,108 And I think that was the moment when I realized 463 00:28:11,143 --> 00:28:13,776 it was about time to leave. 464 00:28:15,485 --> 00:28:17,645 3:18 P.M., another email. 465 00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:20,031 What email is this, six? 466 00:28:20,615 --> 00:28:23,825 Nine altogether, back and forth. 467 00:28:23,827 --> 00:28:25,287 - My god, ok. 468 00:28:25,954 --> 00:28:28,124 "Doug's real name he asked I didn't speak of. 469 00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:30,333 He says you know him by the warning." 470 00:28:31,459 --> 00:28:33,549 My god! 471 00:28:38,967 --> 00:28:40,967 He won't allow me to speak anymore, as 472 00:28:40,969 --> 00:28:42,737 emails are not safe. Neither is telephone. 473 00:28:42,772 --> 00:28:44,506 - By the warning? - He says you know him 474 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:46,314 by the warning. 475 00:28:47,934 --> 00:28:49,024 - Who... 476 00:28:50,019 --> 00:28:51,859 - It's Terry. 477 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,150 - Who the fuck is this? 478 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,915 And that's when I made a fatal mistake, I 479 00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:07,290 was either, I either went to text you guys a message, 480 00:29:07,325 --> 00:29:08,787 or something. 481 00:29:09,372 --> 00:29:12,502 I ended up swiping out of my compass 482 00:29:12,537 --> 00:29:14,540 that I was using to navigate. 483 00:29:15,128 --> 00:29:18,882 And the reception was so poor in the woods, 484 00:29:18,917 --> 00:29:22,600 it couldn't open up again. It couldn't refresh. 485 00:29:22,635 --> 00:29:25,385 And I was running out of battery power at this point in time 486 00:29:25,388 --> 00:29:26,928 on my phone. 487 00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:30,845 And I just couldn't, for the life of me, again it's weird 488 00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:34,982 I had made notes earlier, but it glitched out of my head and 489 00:29:35,017 --> 00:29:36,364 I couldn't remember 490 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:38,609 what direction I had walked in. 491 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,820 So I'm like, ok, I'm following this compass and I 492 00:29:40,855 --> 00:29:42,910 ended up walking onto a trail. 493 00:29:43,406 --> 00:29:46,696 And I start following it and I'm like "I'm just going to 494 00:29:46,701 --> 00:29:48,911 try to stick on a trail for now. 495 00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:50,587 Because I'm sure it leads out 496 00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:53,082 into the area where those others connected 497 00:29:53,117 --> 00:29:54,632 if I'm going the right direction." 498 00:29:54,667 --> 00:29:58,797 The sun is setting, everything is getting that pale grey tone. 499 00:29:58,832 --> 00:30:02,757 I start getting this ominous feeling that the whole 500 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:05,139 purpose of the coordinate points and me being there was 501 00:30:05,174 --> 00:30:08,596 to have me not leave that forest. Is how I felt. 502 00:30:10,725 --> 00:30:17,185 I was honestly trying... I was honestly priming 503 00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:20,320 myself for the worst scenario. Which would have been, 504 00:30:20,355 --> 00:30:22,318 having one of my friends die. 505 00:30:24,531 --> 00:30:25,531 For what? 506 00:30:28,493 --> 00:30:29,493 For what. 507 00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:36,039 I found what little bit of energy was left and I'm like 508 00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:37,792 "I'm going to push through. 509 00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:40,416 And I'm going to reach the top of this ridge. 510 00:30:40,421 --> 00:30:41,921 And then I'll take a rest, 511 00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:44,098 but I'm not going to stop." 512 00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:46,513 I pushed through, my legs were giving out, 513 00:30:46,548 --> 00:30:48,561 I reach the top of this ridge, 514 00:30:49,597 --> 00:30:52,807 Way off in the distance I seen a small little road. 515 00:30:52,809 --> 00:30:56,189 And on that road I see these little dots moving. 516 00:30:56,224 --> 00:30:57,977 And those little dots were cars. 517 00:30:57,981 --> 00:30:59,771 Cars and vehicles. 518 00:30:59,774 --> 00:31:02,074 It was the first sign of civilization 519 00:31:02,109 --> 00:31:04,383 since being in that forest and 520 00:31:04,418 --> 00:31:06,657 I realized there was a way out. 521 00:31:07,073 --> 00:31:10,291 I walked on a directional straight path, 522 00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:13,906 I began seeing a trail cam, some tree stands, 523 00:31:13,913 --> 00:31:17,793 and those led me out onto a gravel road 524 00:31:18,668 --> 00:31:21,761 where there were houses. Civilization. 525 00:31:21,796 --> 00:31:28,086 And I realized at that point that I succeeded, made it out. 526 00:31:31,806 --> 00:31:34,516 But yeah, there was just... there was nothing that seemed 527 00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:40,019 there was nothing that seemed important at the time. 528 00:31:41,232 --> 00:31:43,965 I know he said that there was a weird vibe to the place. 529 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,699 But it was one of those things that it just, again, it 530 00:31:46,734 --> 00:31:48,446 just made me think of Hellier where maybe we 531 00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:49,948 were there too late. 532 00:31:50,783 --> 00:31:54,043 Maybe we didn't... go after it in time. 533 00:31:54,787 --> 00:31:57,537 Or maybe we were missing something. I don't know. 534 00:31:59,208 --> 00:32:02,378 I don't... I mean I just assumed he was pointing us to 535 00:32:02,413 --> 00:32:03,303 Brown Mountain. 536 00:32:03,338 --> 00:32:05,208 That was just an assumption on my part. 537 00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:06,634 But 538 00:32:07,383 --> 00:32:09,093 coordinates are so specific. 539 00:32:09,802 --> 00:32:11,262 They're SO specific. 540 00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:13,805 It just was so pointed. 541 00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:16,641 I don't understand. 542 00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:18,308 I don't understand it. 543 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:21,975 There was one other lead I had to follow up on 544 00:32:21,981 --> 00:32:23,361 and it was the mystery 545 00:32:24,233 --> 00:32:27,035 of who lived inside the house 546 00:32:27,070 --> 00:32:29,320 that was near the coordinate points. 547 00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:32,874 I just wanted it to be over, 548 00:32:32,909 --> 00:32:35,699 but I still had that thirst to know. 549 00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,708 It was now or never. 550 00:32:42,001 --> 00:32:45,301 I was confronted with a fairly large white house, 551 00:32:45,336 --> 00:32:48,181 two stories. Very open. 552 00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:50,850 So I didn't know what to expect 553 00:32:50,885 --> 00:32:53,215 I didn't know who was living here, I didn't know 554 00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,971 if it was going to be Terry Wriste, I didn't know 555 00:32:56,557 --> 00:32:58,847 if it might be something like Indrid Cold, I mean 556 00:32:58,851 --> 00:33:02,561 there was so much mystery behind who lived at this location. 557 00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:05,653 I end up getting to this house. 558 00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:10,566 And as I'm walking this door all these dogs 559 00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:12,781 are going off, barking. 560 00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:16,876 And I hit the doorbell and I wait, wait, wait... 561 00:33:16,911 --> 00:33:21,621 And the first sign of movement that I seen was an elderly woman 562 00:33:21,624 --> 00:33:27,384 approach the door. Looked to be in her late 60's or so. 563 00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:32,465 And um... at that point, 564 00:33:32,927 --> 00:33:34,427 when she opened the door, 565 00:33:34,429 --> 00:33:37,389 to ask who I was, I um 566 00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:39,560 I was very transparent. 567 00:33:39,595 --> 00:33:41,809 I wanted to um 568 00:33:41,811 --> 00:33:44,111 I realized I wouldn't get the answers if I just didn't 569 00:33:44,146 --> 00:33:45,765 outright tell her why I was there. 570 00:33:45,773 --> 00:33:49,117 So I told her in brief, 571 00:33:49,152 --> 00:33:52,532 "these coordinate points seem to be near your property 572 00:33:52,567 --> 00:33:55,331 in the woods. So I was just curious if 573 00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:59,656 there was anything out inside of the forest, or if 574 00:33:59,662 --> 00:34:03,372 there was anything interesting. I kind of went down this 575 00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:06,342 detailed list of asking her about the forest, 576 00:34:06,377 --> 00:34:09,257 and if there was ever anything strange that she's ever seen 577 00:34:09,292 --> 00:34:10,625 in the area, and 578 00:34:10,631 --> 00:34:13,683 she was very, very matter of fact. 579 00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:17,678 Just "no, there's been nothing. There's been nothing strange." 580 00:34:18,556 --> 00:34:21,846 But there was one... apart from their nature of 581 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:23,601 just them being very open with me, 582 00:34:23,603 --> 00:34:25,153 and me being very open with them, 583 00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:29,897 there was something that caught my eye. 584 00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:33,071 The element that we have right here 585 00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:38,161 is there was a very distinct carving 586 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,540 on a tree that was right next to us. 587 00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:46,128 Just out from their porch, probably 10, 20 feet away. 588 00:34:46,959 --> 00:34:49,379 And I've been staring at this carving the whole time 589 00:34:49,414 --> 00:34:51,508 I'm talking to these people. 590 00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:56,085 And I go "that's a very interesting carving on that tree" 591 00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:00,516 I go "is that a Green Man?" 592 00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:07,685 And then the woman turns to me she goes "No. It's just an old man." 593 00:35:13,653 --> 00:35:19,533 In my paranoia, I'm thinking "are these people a part of this? 594 00:35:19,534 --> 00:35:20,704 This case?" 595 00:35:22,161 --> 00:35:25,671 Yeah, so I mean I wrapped things up, I thanked them for their time, 596 00:35:26,749 --> 00:35:30,249 I got in my car, and that's when I 597 00:35:30,253 --> 00:35:33,471 drove back down that driveway and I actually pulled in 598 00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:37,046 I pulled in to the church for one last call, to call you guys 599 00:35:37,051 --> 00:35:40,603 to be like "Well! I followed up! I know who's there." So, 600 00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:45,348 I call you guys and in the middle of telling you what just happened, 601 00:35:45,351 --> 00:35:48,651 I get a knock on my window 602 00:35:48,686 --> 00:35:50,896 and it startles me, I'm like "doh!" I look 603 00:35:50,898 --> 00:35:55,778 and there's a man there in a sweater vest 604 00:35:55,813 --> 00:35:58,068 and he was actually a sheriff. 605 00:35:58,072 --> 00:36:01,791 So I roll the window down and I'm like "oh, hi" 606 00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:04,696 and then I'm like "stay on the line" I'm like uh-oh 607 00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:07,630 I'm like "stay on the line! There's a cop here." 608 00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:12,455 He asks, he goes "hi there, what are you doing here?" 609 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:18,511 I go "oh, I'm just... I'm just driving from Pennsylvania. 610 00:36:18,546 --> 00:36:21,144 I'm actually geocaching" 611 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:24,099 I'm like "I'm actually just about to go back to Pennsylvania now." 612 00:36:24,682 --> 00:36:30,312 He took my information, took my details, I gave him my 613 00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:34,533 my I.D. And he walks back to his vehicle. 614 00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:38,202 And he was there for quite some time. 615 00:36:38,237 --> 00:36:41,117 And the whole time he's there I'm talking to Greg and Dana 616 00:36:41,152 --> 00:36:42,575 like "what's going on?" 617 00:36:42,610 --> 00:36:44,575 So he comes back 618 00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:47,497 with my information and he says "well, everything seems to 619 00:36:47,532 --> 00:36:48,746 check out." 620 00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:53,043 And I had made it very clear that I was on my way out of 621 00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:56,238 North Carolina, so he asks me, he goes 622 00:36:56,273 --> 00:36:59,724 "You are leaving North Carolina, right?" 623 00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:03,175 Very demanding. And I said "oh yeah, 624 00:37:03,179 --> 00:37:05,679 I'm just about to leave now, about to head back 625 00:37:05,681 --> 00:37:06,606 to Pennsylvania. 626 00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:10,538 He goes "there's a lot of people who come and talk to me." 627 00:37:10,573 --> 00:37:14,436 He goes "I know everyone in this tone. And we take note 628 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,740 if strange men appear in this town and start asking questions." 629 00:37:18,775 --> 00:37:23,526 As he walked away, and I started my car, 630 00:37:23,532 --> 00:37:27,585 I ended up pulling backward. And as I pulled back 631 00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:32,830 to start my drive I realized not only was this undercover cop there, 632 00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:37,169 but an entire squadron of undercover cops were with him 633 00:37:37,204 --> 00:37:41,506 that followed me out on my drive out of North Carolina. 634 00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:43,009 Until they pulled off. 635 00:37:52,186 --> 00:37:58,186 ♪ "Hell Departed" By The Bent Brothers ♪ 636 00:38:04,657 --> 00:38:08,577 So I didn't tell anyone else about the emails. 637 00:38:08,612 --> 00:38:11,787 For... four months? 638 00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:16,425 We just sat and dug in on them. 639 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:19,720 Strand did research, and Dana did research, and 640 00:38:19,755 --> 00:38:24,045 I did some but it honestly just made me really nervous. 641 00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:26,261 I kinda just wanted to put it out of my head. 642 00:38:26,262 --> 00:38:30,222 And everything we found was just more and more concerning. 643 00:38:30,891 --> 00:38:34,061 And like clockwork. 644 00:38:34,812 --> 00:38:36,320 She disappeared. 645 00:38:36,355 --> 00:38:38,145 Stopped answering emails. 646 00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:41,359 Left it at this cliffhanger, saying she had 647 00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:47,069 information, she had proof of all of these claims about 648 00:38:47,074 --> 00:38:55,714 UFOnauts, and secret rituals in caves, and sacrifices and 649 00:38:56,125 --> 00:38:57,165 very 650 00:39:00,046 --> 00:39:03,756 scarier versions of the stuff in Hellier. 651 00:39:03,758 --> 00:39:06,258 And then she... 652 00:39:06,260 --> 00:39:07,260 disappeared. 653 00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:15,095 The question posed by Wriste is 654 00:39:15,102 --> 00:39:18,152 "why did you stop when you were so close?" 655 00:39:19,315 --> 00:39:20,895 The coordinates aside, 656 00:39:22,109 --> 00:39:24,243 can you think 657 00:39:24,278 --> 00:39:28,488 of anything else from that trip that it might have been referencing? 658 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:30,367 Anything? 659 00:39:30,951 --> 00:39:33,161 I didn't think about that until now. 660 00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:37,424 But, what experiment did we just try, like 661 00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:41,459 I thought "you know, let's do the alien abduction experiment." 662 00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:46,508 What. If that is... it. 663 00:39:48,594 --> 00:39:51,014 - Did you stop the experiment? 664 00:39:51,049 --> 00:39:51,973 Yeah. 665 00:39:52,681 --> 00:39:55,431 Yeah, we had such a bad experience with the experiment. 666 00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,807 Yeah we never, we never tried doing that again. 667 00:40:00,606 --> 00:40:02,531 Not that variation. 668 00:40:02,566 --> 00:40:05,606 Not about aliens. We've continued to work with hypnosis. 669 00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:10,262 But the idea of using that to do an alien abduction, 670 00:40:10,297 --> 00:40:14,372 like it's... it was genuinely one of the scariest things 671 00:40:14,407 --> 00:40:18,120 I've ever seen and probably ever instigated. 672 00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:20,716 Simply because of the implications of it. 673 00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:25,381 Because I never put two and two together, so this is what's funny... 674 00:40:25,416 --> 00:40:27,723 this is weird. 675 00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:31,548 We went to Brown Mountain, not with the intention 676 00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:33,260 of finding an alien cave base. 677 00:40:33,295 --> 00:40:34,967 That wasn't the fuckin point. 678 00:40:34,974 --> 00:40:38,354 That was something that was brought up 679 00:40:39,228 --> 00:40:40,728 by Micah. 680 00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:45,778 The whole, all of the other shit with like the goblins stuff was like 681 00:40:45,813 --> 00:40:48,236 not anything that seemed related at all. 682 00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:50,427 It just seemed like at the time, 683 00:40:50,462 --> 00:40:52,617 Micah brought up "alien cave base" 684 00:40:53,033 --> 00:40:55,623 and we thought "fuck! We've got something like an alien 685 00:40:55,658 --> 00:40:57,002 cave base." 686 00:40:57,037 --> 00:40:59,117 That was just an aside. 687 00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:02,793 It just kind of became the theme of that as we worked on "Hellier." 688 00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:04,844 What we were actually doing 689 00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:07,669 was we were at Brown Mountain to try to get abducted. 690 00:41:16,807 --> 00:41:20,017 I don't fuckin know. 691 00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:32,073 ♪ "Hell Departed" By The Bent Brothers ♪ 55665

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