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THE APPEARANCE
Memory card (Christophe)
PART 1: ROME
"Bring back proofs."
Christophe often said: "I want to bring evidence back."
Images.
Images of injustice,
of violence and the madness of this world.
He is no longer among us,
but stays in our minds, thanks to the photos you see here.
I think of his friend Jacques, with whom he worked for so long.
They have together a large number of conflicts highlighted.
In Sudan,
in Lebanon, in Yugoslavia ...
Jacques was close to Christophe at the moment of the explosion.
15 years together ...
There are friends of yours below that you want to see.
I had him not only have to let go.
He was not alone.
It was the first time that we were not together there.
Take a seat.
Can I go back to work?
Why do you refuse to seek help?
That would do your self-confidence well.
I just want to know if I can go back to work.
You must take a rest.
Your wife is worried because you do not come out.
Are you still scared?
Hey. With Jacques Mayano?
Speaking.
The journalist from Ouest-France?
Yes that's me. Who do I speak with?
I'm calling on behalf of Monsignor Vassilis, bishop of Valence
and member of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
What do you want from me?
He would like to meet you to discuss a confidential matter.
What do you mean, confidential?
It is quite sensitive. He wants to tell you personally.
He asks you to come to Rome.
Of course we will reimburse all costs.
Excuse me, but why me?
The Monsignor knows your work very well. He will explain everything yourself.
Can not you do that now?
Unfortunately, I do not have permission to do that.
Monsignor wants to tell it himself.
Like I said, it is a very confidential matter.
Can you repeat his name again?
Biography Name: André Vassilis
Bishop of the Catholic Church
Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
Within.
Come in.
Thank you for coming here, sir.
Are you going to sit, please.
Did they offer you something to drink? - Yes.
Been here before?
No. This is the first time.
All that wealth ...
Very different from the man in bare feet that proclaimed poverty, right?
Doubtless.
How is your ear?
It's okay. It's going better. Thank you.
I know what happened to your friend and I want to express my condolences.
I knew his work well.
I had written a note to him to express my admiration
and he sent a print of a photo back.
There he is.
Let me see...
We have here ...
a number of articles from you.
I already knew several, that I had read on the internet.
Besides, you write excellent.
Sorry, but why did you let me come? Do I have to write something for you?
Have you had a religious education?
I have done my First Communion.
Are you religious?
No.
I think there might be something,
but I am not a churchgoer.
Do you know what a canonical investigation is?
An investigation for canonization.
It is a research team that is appointed by the Church
to do research to a specific incident,
like a miraculous cure,
an appearance or a supernatural event.
What is a supernatural event?
We have collected a number of documents.
They will interest you.
Look ...
Exactly two years ago
has confirmed a sixteen-year-old girl that she witnessed an apparition
near Carbarat in the southeast of France.
What is an appearance?
A Marian apparition.
In most cases
such things automatically settle again thanks to the intervention of a pastor
or a good psychiatrist.
Sometimes it expands and comes pilgrims to the place of appearance.
Or rather, the supposed place of appearance.
And that's exactly what is going on now.
The authorities have it about disruption of public order.
The girl is called Anna.
Since her visions she is very protected by the pastor.
A Franciscan who ignores our requests.
Pastor Borrodine.
He refused to hand over a supposed relic
that we wanted to analyze.
A bloodied cloth representing the Virgin Mary would have left behind.
They would even be there want to build a new church.
In short, the situation is becoming more and more worrying.
Sorry, but that's nothing for me.
No idea how I could help.
You only need to do field research.
Collect data that the appearance confirm or disprove.
You get paid.
And a total research freedom.
DOOP CERTIFICATE
That was it.
The archives of the Holy Office moved last year.
We go through the basement. That is faster.
Would you be so kind give me your phone?
He is off. - Our regulations prescribe it.
We are now under the courtyard on which we arrived.
From the end of the nineteenth century we occasionally have photos.
And a little later also sound and film recordings.
He has some examples in French.
Those are the apparitions which are recognized by the Church.
ARCHIVES
PLACE - COUNTRY - DATE PERSON - DATE OF RECOGNITION
For each incident there is a file with the interrogations
of the person and possible witnesses.
Between 1961 and 1965 four girls would appearances
in Garabandal in Spain.
In a few months the place attracted hundreds of thousands of pilgrims.
The girls were questioned, photographed and filmed.
But the apparitions were not recognized.
It was suspected that it was deceit. The opinions are still divided.
After years of research judged the bishop of Santander
that the supernatural nature
of the phenomenon in Garabandal could not be proven.
Was it all a scam?
Let's say the Church has not acknowledged what happened,
the supernatural nature of the apparitions.
This is a very rare document:
an appearance which is officially recognized by the Church.
Ask him whether I can see a recent case.
I understand what you say.
L'ĂŽle-Bouchard in France.
Jacqueline Aubry, a saint.
You can access the internet find interviews with her
in which she tells in detail about the apparitions.
I have her myself in the late nineties.
She died in 2016.
Has research been done? - Multiple times.
And in 2001 stood the archbishop of Tours
pilgrims to come to the place.
The apparitions of L'ĂŽle-Bouchard
Then it is possible are recognized as officially recognized?
Not really, but it is probably a first step towards recognition.
Here you have a letter who deals with the incident.
Do not touch. - Excuse me.
They are very valuable.
"I saw the Blessed Virgin Mary
and an angel
and she smiled at Jeanne.
I was there with Nicole, Jeanne, Laura and Sergine,
but Sergine did not see Her. "
He can send you files about healing in Lourdes show.
69 healings were officially as wonderfully recognized.
The most recent case was in 1989.
Mrs. Danila Castelli.
Coffee, please. - You too?
The incidents about which the bishop had it ...
What do you think about that?
I do not know about what incidents he had.
Do you think there are still many believers
who believe in wonderful appearances and miracles?
The Church prefers to walk a phenomenon that turns out to be true
then that he labels deceit as true.
Are there stories in these archives? they would rather forget?
Is that possible?
Everything is possible. Everything.
With the compliments from Monsignor Vassilis
A sign in the sky
APPEARANCE IN LOURDES
Did Maria appear in Medjugorje?
Deceivers of God
Part 2: The Messenger
I see him. I'll call you.
Day. I am Valérie. - Jacques.
Welcome. Had a good journey? - Yes.
We're going that way.
Do you have all your stuff? - Yes.
We're still waiting on a second parking lot.
It's getting worse.
The rest arrived yesterday.
Where can I rent a car? - It is easy. We arrange that.
Do you hear the clock? Anna sounds to him every day.
The monastery is nearby.
We are here.
There was a case here that leased trucks.
The municipality has there made a storage space.
You would wait for me.
This is Mr. Mayano.
Welcome, I am Reverend Ezeradot.
Doctor De Villeneuve, our psychiatrist.
Stéphane Mornay, theologian.
Would you like coffee or tea?
Coffee, please.
And finally, dear Gallois, on behalf of the diocese.
I look forward to working with you.
We have a nun as a stenographer and Paul-Eric films the conversations.
Are you filming? - If she agrees.
Does it decide that?
We can not call the police if she does not cooperate.
See, here it is.
Are you okay? in the studio they gave you?
Fine. Thank you.
We have had reports from you. I hope we can discuss them.
Gladly.
Here is a coffee machine
and downstairs we have a fully equipped kitchen.
I will let you move in.
The appearance would have occurred northeast of the city.
Everything is on the map in the appendix.
Is it a public place? - That is the problem.
It is teeming with pilgrims day and night. It's a gang.
Our friend Stéphane has already formed his opinion.
On my last visit to Medjugorje I was pelted with stones.
I told you that, doctor. I was there with a crazy nun.
Her name was Sister Bara or sister Mara.
That's a town in former Yugoslavia
true since the 80s apparitions.
We all have already been on that case.
And over there they have churches, hotels and highways built ...
I read about it.
Even fast food restaurants.
And do we already know who the exorcist is? - His name is in the file.
Excuse me, but why an exorcist?
Do they still exist? - Yes. Every diocese has one.
He performs in supernatural matters.
Well, alleged supernatural things.
We must know for sure that it is not the work of Satan.
And that the person is spiritually healthy.
Do not worry, Jacques. - I do not worry.
I have added three questions about the message
of the Virgin Mary, especially about the formulation.
So I am going to ask the questions and you may interrupt us.
I hope so.
She is not Jeanne D'Arc.
Before we said goodbye,
the Monsignor gave me an important document for you.
It's about the standards
for recognition of alleged appearances.
I would like to suggest that you read them aloud.
"According to the standards which were published in 1978
by the Holy Office,
that later the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,
must do the canonical investigation make a judgment about, one:
the personal qualities from the one who saw it,
his or her mental state,
his or her sincerity and soundness,
his or her honesty and usual obedience
in front of the church.
Two: regarding the unveiling of the message,
the theological doctrine must be true and he may not contain any errors.
Tree:
the committee has to make sure that the man or woman is pious,
with abundant and constant spiritual consequences,
as observed conversions or show of charity. "
That was it.
Let's work to lay in God's hands.
THE PROVISION
There are tonight again people arrived.
I saw them on the outskirts of town. - They're everywhere.
Watch now. They are overwhelmed.
Come along, there is a second entrance on the right.
Dear brothers and sisters, Anna is with us.
Let us pray to the Lord.
Brothers and sisters, how wonderful that you are here in large numbers.
Anna is with us.
Let us thank the Virgin Mary.
You have nothing to look for here.
Do you reject people as Christians?
What is that for something now?
I know who you are.
Leave us alone.
Christians do not refuse anyone. - Departure.
Christians do not refuse anyone.
WELCOME
The Virgin Mary had a message of love,
because only love can save us.
Today I want to greet all the people
coming from afar and expect so much from us.
People from countries that suffer under war and poverty.
I also think of those who have not reached us.
Who are left behind on the way.
Who died.
They are too forever on our side.
Let us pray for them.
Day. Could I speak to you?
I know why you are here.
Let's go.
Do you hear me? I hear you bad ...
Hey?
An English news site has called because they want to write an article
about wounded war reporters.
Say I'm not recording, that I have sick leave.
I say that to everyone.
How are your colleagues?
They talk about exorcism, apparitions ...
For them it is daily cost.
And are you there right?
Yes.
Have you already stuck cardboard on the windows?
No. Not yet.
Sorry, I have to go through my questions.
Take care of yourself.
So.
Anna, you can still change your mind.
I am ready.
Alright then. We go.
Do not worry, they can not make you anything.
Thanks, sister.
What is that?
The hands of the pilgrims who want to touch me.
These images may not under any circumstances become public.
No worries. All this remains strictly confidential.
We have nothing to hide.
I leave you alone.
This way.
Here is the committee.
Doctor De Villeneuve, psychiatrist. - Day.
Stéphane Mornay, theologian. - Day.
Paul-Eric, Sister Sophie, our shorthand typist.
Rev. Gallois.
And Jacques Mayano, journalist. - Day.
This way.
Have a seat. - Thanks.
Thank you for responding to the invitation.
Jacques will lead the interview.
We have together Discussed about all questions.
I would like to point out that we are best for you.
Before we start questioning,
put your hand here and you swear on the Bible.
I do not know if that is allowed.
Do not worry, that's common.
I swear on the Bible.
First of all, would you like to tell us who you are?
My name is Anna Ferron.
I was born from unknown parents on 20 January 1999 in Lannion.
I am a novice at Convent De Voorzienigheid.
Have you had a religious education?
I went to church with the grandmother from my first host family.
But after her death I stopped.
Later I had to go to a Catholic home because they could not keep me.
The faith was present in your early childhood?
No. In the host families it was not talked about.
You thought of God or to the Virgin Mary?
Did you talk about that with adults?
With pastor Borrodine I started talking about it.
When I felt something.
Could you describe what you felt?
It was like a ...
It was like a message.
How old were you at that moment?
Fifteen.
Did you know what appearances were?
I knew the story from Bernadette from Lourdes.
Like everyone else.
Had you read books about it or seen photos or movies?
Like about the apparitions in Fátima,
in Garabandal and Medjugorje?
I only learned about it from pilgrims later on and read about it on the internet.
Have you ever been part of it? from a satanic cult or something?
No. Never.
But I think the Devil exists.
I know that for sure. The evil.
Pastor Borrodine advised you to enter the monastery?
No. That's not how things go.
It must come from within.
I wanted to meet sisters myself to learn more about it.
And...
then the first appearance took place.
The first time was two years ago, in September.
It had rained all day.
I had gone for a walk, I did that often.
Was you alone? - Yes.
It was cold outside.
At the first mountain hut I saw a light,
a bit further on the road.
What does that mean, a light?
Can you describe that?
I thought it was the sun that shone in the water,
like after a storm.
At what distance were you about?
Can you indicate that?
No idea.
Here somewhere.
Were you blinded by it?
Look in the other direction or did you close your eyes?
It was a soft light.
Very soft.
But did you see a figure?
When I came closer, I saw a human form.
Did you think it was someone? Someone who really existed?
No. I knew it was something else.
What then?
A woman.
A very beautiful woman.
With a very simple veil and shoulder cloak.
In what colors?
The dress was white, or rather light-colored,
and the shoulder cloak was sky blue.
And then?
Then I heard a voice.
A calm voice.
And was it in French?
Yes.
It was said:
"You do not have to be scared."
And did you answer something?
I did not get a word about my lips.
What was the exact message which she passed on to you?
Word by word?
She said:
"I hear the screams of the world."
She asked me to help my loved ones to learn again what self-sacrifice is.
For the benefit of the poor, of people with suffering.
She also asked me to build a place for Her Son,
a place of hospitality and prayer.
Go on, Anna.
It did not take long.
The light faded.
And then I was left alone. It was quiet.
I'm in my room went into the home.
I did not want to speak to anyone anymore.
Could you not tell your friends?
That was impossible.
They would have fooled me.
Later I decided to discuss it with pastor Borrodine.
And you told him? - Yes.
How much time later?
A few weeks, a month later.
And how did he react?
He said it was blasphemy.
He called me arrogant and self-centered.
How did your environment find out what happened?
Nobody knew anything about it.
We got it kept secret for more than a year.
Only after the second appearance people began to talk about it.
Sister Elisabeth, do you get the car? - Hello, Anna.
Go ahead.
Sister...
Hello, Mr. Pastor. - Day.
I am not a liar.
PLACE OF THE MARY APPEARANCE
LOVE
Ten euros, please.
THE MARIA APPEARANCE FROM CARBARAT
PART 3: ANNA
Day, with Jacques Mayano.
I am with the committee doing research on Carbarat.
I saw that you wrote about it.
I would like to speak to you.
Will you call me back? This is my number:
06-58680918.
Thank you. Jacques Mayano.
Day.
How do you do?
Good. And you? - Fine.
This is a gift for you.
On behalf of the whole faith community from Philadelphia.
They would like to see you in real life instead of just online.
I would also like to pray with them.
Have you seen the movies that we have put on the site?
They are taken over by many sites.
Benoît does the sound.
Christophe is the cameraman.
They have yonder really a lot of love and respect for you.
Good.
I ask you the questions in French
and of course you answer in French.
You are being dubbed in multiple languages,
because the interview will be online
in a large number of countries.
Do what you want. I trust you.
The camera is running.
Hello, Anna.
I want to start with a simple question.
How do you do?
It does.
Good. Christians from around the world come to Carbarat to see you.
What does that mean for you?
I do not believe in this relic.
The substance, the blood ...
I never believed it. - Why not?
The Virgin Mary was always a paragon of love,
mildness and understanding.
And blood is a sign of violence.
It is totally contradictory with the tradition of appearances.
It can now be just a new sign.
No. That is absolutely impossible.
Even if something has never happened before, it may be possible.
We must have the substance analyzed.
Who can confiscate? - The prefect.
If he finds that there is a threat to public policy,
he can have it confiscated
and give him to the bishop for an analysis.
Even in a monastery?
They are from the state, not from the diocese.
The state may thus seize on what he wants.
Do you think that the pilgrims would allow it?
Everything fine? - Yes.
Here. - Thanks.
Mother Superior said you had to rest.
We would be in a place for nearly 800 believers.
Just like in Medjugorje.
But in the meantime I can not even go on the mass in my parish.
Will the committee also hear you?
I have already refused that.
It is useless anyway.
The bishop has settled aggressively against us.
And now this committee ...
What gives strength, Mr. Pastor, is thinking about her eyes.
Anna's eyes.
I have never a look as seen from her.
She was not chosen by chance.
You already do a lot for us.
We need modesty and simplicity to stay faithful to the message.
That is the only truth.
I understand that, Mr. Pastor.
We must remain worthy.
Worthy of grace that she received.
Day. I am Jacques Mayano. I had called you about Anna.
Oh yeah. Day. - Day.
She had lighter hair at that time.
How old was she when she arrived here? - Six. She was small.
She was placed by the departmental council.
And before that?
Before that she was in maternity care and an orphanage.
Have you received many children? - Yes.
They stay for a few years and then leave again.
They go to their family or an orphanage.
I keep their drawings.
I also sign and so I have a memento. Have a seat.
There are even pilgrims who want to see the house.
They want to see where the little one slept.
They touch the stones, the trees ...
This is all I have for you.
Do you have administrative documents? School reports or medical records?
When a child leaves,
we must forward the file.
And it is important to close everything.
That helps them if they go to another family.
Otherwise it is goodbye after goodbye, and that always hurts.
I have read that she not a bad student. Is that right?
It did not interest her either. But she was good.
Never ran away, never problems.
An einzelgänger.
Why did she have to leave here?
My husband died and I was here with three foster children.
There were problems with the elders.
Anna was fourteen.
She went back to the orphanage.
Can I take photos of the documents and photos?
I hope that is legal? - Yes. No worries.
This was her bedroom.
Now it is my laundry room.
She slept here for eight years.
We have that stared out of respect for her.
What do you think about these apparitions?
When I saw her last year, she swore it was true.
She would not lie to me.
She is not a liar, though.
You must therefore decide if all of this really happened?
Shelter The snowdrop
Mr. Pastor,
I want to confirm this letter
that I want to enter the monastery.
I want to dedicate my life to prayer and helping people in need.
I now know that a life for God is for me.
That is why I want to leave the shelter
and enter the monastery as soon as you consider that possible.
I can not stay here anymore with the other girls.
I am convinced now that my future lies elsewhere.
I want to share a big secret with you.
Something extraordinary has happened to me.
Really a big secret.
I do not know with whom I can discuss it differently.
I'm afraid of what can happen.
Even though I know that I am heaven but do not have to look at it
not to be afraid anymore.
Help me.
I beg you.
Anna.
So you said you saw her ... Where was it?
From that grove she followed the hill and she disappeared on the other side.
Yonder? - Yes. Over there.
And she screamed very hard.
A loud scream.
Did she scream? Like someone who was very scared?
Yes, very scared. - A shout that stays with you for a long time.
And it was on the day of the appearance?
Yes. They talked about it later.
And then we made the link with what we had heard.
The day after?
Much later. When they started talking about it.
Did you see how she was dressed?
Before we saw anything, she was already far away.
It went very fast.
And you have not seen her face? - No. We saw her from behind.
How old would you estimate her? 10, 12?
A little older, 14 or 15.
A young girl. - Yes.
A shrieking scream. It was really a child.
"A scream that will stay with you for a long time."
What is this for hassle about shouting, fear and blood?
She is not right, point out.
Do you have the file read from the shelter?
Yes. I read that.
She was only 16, so they did as if she was doing an internship at the monastery.
She left school and when she turned eighteen,
she went into the monastery and no one could stop her.
It was therefore a vocational school or holiness.
Anyway, she agreed with all investigations.
And?
So far I have none serious mental disorder detected.
She went from family to family, that must have left traces,
fears or so ...
We are still in the initial phase.
What is it?
A girl who has lost her way and want to do interesting?
A poor child who is not able to cope against school, life and fellow man?
What is this for the world where we have to learn to live?
What is this for the world?
Let us remember the words of His Holiness Pope Francis:
"Who still has the courage
to feel responsible for other people's suffering? "
We see our neighbor, die after death along the way ...
Maybe we think,
poor man, while we are photo view on the web.
Nevertheless, we continue our journey
and we leave him behind.
The prosperity society forces us to think about ourselves
and makes us insensitive for the suffering of others.
We may live in beautiful bubbles, but they are insignificant.
They are an illusion
from the futile,
of the short-lived.
An illusion that incites us to indifference towards others.
We have ended up
in globalization of indifference.
Virgin Mary, Mother of God,
we thank you for this message of mercy
that you have addressed to us.
Hello, Anna.
I searched the internet. I did not know who you were.
Go through, Anna.
Excuse me.
Hello, Mr. Pastor.
That was a very nice sermon.
For real.
Your committee will cause us damage.
The Church decided to conduct an investigation.
And you are a priest.
I will pray for you.
Do not worry about me.
I have to go.
We're going, Anna.
You have not understood it yet, Mr. Mayano.
Anna let you come here to put us to the test.
Do you really think that she has that power? - Yes. I think so.
I really think so.
Where do I pick you up?
In the same place as the last time?
Be careful, though.
T-shirts from 9 euros
Everything fine? - Laid back.
Thanks.
A big kiss, dear Anna. And also from Paul!
I'll write you soon, Meriem.
Everything fine? Do you like it here? - It's worthless.
Have you seen that boy yet?
Who? - That guy that hit you.
Oh, that boy ...
I was not allowed to go to the hospital from his family.
Try to look for him to say sorry.
This is important.
If you want that.
Excuse me.
Unknown
You are was my first foster family.
I hope everything is okay with them.
Why did you yell?
What were you afraid of?
I know you are not like the rest.
We are looking for a photo for the misbook
that we hand out on the day of the service.
I think we should take the photo
the most sincere, the simplest and is the most modest.
What Do You Think?
This one here.
You really shine.
Or here. With your eyes ...
Very bright. Very pure.
I think it is beautiful.
Here.
From Lucie Marisco, a journalist.
She has years research done on Anna.
And last year, out of nowhere, she left the newspaper.
Do we know why? - Not exactly.
It was determined by this case. The editors did not support her.
Is she Catholic?
No, that's just interesting.
How so? - In her e-mail
she says no one really wanted to know what happened.
The shopkeepers, the diocese and the pilgrims do not.
She explains why everyone benefits with a mystery.
Those who believe it and who do not believe it.
The bishop introduced us.
Yes, because they no longer have a choice.
They no longer have a handle on Borrodine.
The diocese even asked to analyze the relic.
What else could they do?
This is all I found about Borrodine. Missionary in India, in Asia ...
He even did to charity in the Philippines.
But nothing compromising.
They call him a sincere, devoted servant of God.
Come on.
He refuses to obey the bishop.
That already discredits him.
Here he has according to the police no interest in the apparitions.
No hidden money or anything like that for him, Anna or their entourage.
And that man who's with him the whole time?
Anton Meyer.
He has been here from the beginning.
Borrodine is isolated.
He needs Meyer's network to put the bishop under pressure.
Do you think Anna has ties with them?
Does she have a different choice?
PART 4: THE ICON OF O.L.V. VAN KAZAN
Day.
Cécile.
That's her. With shorter hair.
And that's me.
Unbelievably, that she already kept it secret.
This is Delphine.
Assata.
Meriem.
MaĂŻa. She had something very bad to her thyroid gland.
And that black boy is Joachim.
He always went wrong and disappeared.
Had Anna at that time maybe a boyfriend?
No. Never heard anything about it.
That is also logical, if she wanted to be a nun.
Here, view this list.
Can you say whether all girls from that time on the list?
Amelie.
Amélie Cassaigne.
She went to Nancy to study.
Do you like some water? - Yes please.
How do you remember Anna?
We were not exactly friends.
First of all, I was older than she.
And I worked here, so there was obviously a barrier.
And Anna was distant anyway.
Did nobody know what happened? - No.
If she had said what she had seen, she was declared crazy.
Then she would "become a victim".
The girls are very hard against each other.
They are constantly afraid.
Who did she like? - With Meriem.
Meriem Almedia.
At the end they shared a room.
They were very close.
Almost inseparable.
How far could that go? - You are sitting next to it.
They were like sisters who had lost their parents.
Do you understand?
Where can I find Meriem?
No idea.
She has left and went to a host family.
Ask the youth worker. Maybe he can help you.
What did Borrodine mean to you?
He impressed with his travel stories.
And he was very protective. Especially after the departure of Meriem.
What happened then?
Anna is weeks away stayed in her room.
It was very heavy for her.
And one day she left the shelter.
To enter the monastery? - We do not really know what happened.
By becoming a nun she could also avoid the state,
the pressure of school and stuff.
Do you think there was more to it between Borrodine and Anna?
Do you always think of those things?
Sorry, that question must be asked.
Maybe she did it for him. An enamored girl who clings.
An enamored girl Do not talk about those things quickly.
The newspaper asked for your research.
They want to know what you are doing. They are worried.
I do not want to tell you.
Not in any case now.
They would not understand.
Is your ear okay?
Yes.
Have you had any problems?
Hey?
Are you feeling well?
Yes. Why?
You just do not want to talk. - Of course it is.
Gabriel had exams anyway?
I watched the internet what Anna looks like.
And?
It is terrifying.
What should be of her life?
I do not know.
I do research to the incidents in Carbarat.
You were in the same shelter in 2012 and 2013.
No, it is a canonical investigation.
A bishop ordered me to do research
to all acquaintances of Anna from that time.
I ask you some questions and you tell me the memories
that you have to Anna.
Ah, you moved.
That is half an hour from your home.
Do you know Stéphanie Berlamont?
OK.
Marie-Amélie Jacob?
Delphine Barjoux?
Do you have a number?
She would have moved.
... 11 24 52.
Where is La Roche des Arnaux? I do not know this region.
MaĂŻa Lonkeu? Are you sure?
I can come to your home or come to work.
In Paris?
No, well ...
I can possibly to be with you in half an hour.
I just want to ask some questions. It will not last long.
That is Meriem.
And that's her boyfriend.
And who is that?
A guest she knew from a foundation. A Russian.
What kind of foundation?
A foundation that helps people.
People who are alone or poor.
Even prisoners.
How so? Did she visit prisoners? - Yes.
But she often talked about Anna and about the apparitions?
No.
Never.
We did not hear that until afterwards.
After the shelter did they lose sight of each other?
I never saw them together.
She has never been here.
But maybe they agreed. - What is the name of that friend?
Pavel.
And do you know his last name?
No. I do not even know if he really is called Pavel.
Why are you saying that now?
No idea.
And what did he do for a living?
It is an old soldier. He wandered around.
They are in the upper drawer.
Look. This is a letter that we received after her departure.
From a prisoner.
Lomio.
He did not hear from her and was worried.
He wanted to know why she disappeared.
Gaspard Lumio.
Yes, exactly.
What kind of bond did she have with that prisoner?
She went to see him for a talk.
They were talking about the Gospel and about forgiveness.
She has always wanted to help people.
Did she ever say that she wanted to be a nun?
Meriem? Not really.
She wanted to travel, to discover the world.
She was always out the door.
And she was in love.
Can I keep this letter?
Do you like coffee? - Yes. Gladly.
You'll give it back, right?
What is that?
A gift from Pavel. He gave it to us on their departure.
Did he say how he got it?
Fixed as a soldier.
He was broken. He repaired him.
Can I take a picture of it? - Yes.
What do you mean, "coincidentally"?
Coincidence. Such things happen.
But on this thing, Céline,
in such a hole, by chance?
That is impossible!
You imagine it. - Not true!
I can see it. It is concrete!
What are you afraid of?
No idea.
I do not know.
I must speak to you. Who is Meriem?
What happened to her? - Walk on.
Who is Meriem?
Unknown
Did he tell you what happened to that photographer?
I know, but he did not tell me.
It is unpleasant if someone does not answer.
What do you think about it, Reverend?
Faith often knows strange ways.
Good evening.
I can not be seen here.
Come in.
Do you want something to drink?
Yes please. - A glass of water?
Hang up your coat.
Here. - Thanks.
Can you leave the house whenever you want?
I can not speak to you from Borrodine.
Do not you obey?
People have seen you in the gym.
You seemed angry.
Mr. Pastor talked about it this afternoon.
What did he say?
That he rather prays than listens to people who attack us.
Who will attack you?
Those who are afraid.
And are you afraid of Borrodine? - No. He always protected me.
And that there? Are you afraid of that?
A little bit yes.
But I have faith.
I want to help you.
Oh yeah? Help me?
You should not hurt this research.
The message Mary gave me, is a message of love and peace.
I know you need a friend.
Go ahead, sit down.
Tell me about Meriem.
She was my girlfriend in the shelter.
Why did she leave?
She wanted to leave herself.
And did you know from her Russian friend Pavel?
Her friend? No.
How should I have known that?
And you? Have you ever had a boyfriend?
I know that I will remain a virgin.
I know that for a long time.
That is what has given my life meaning.
I love God.
And do not you mind ...
that you will never know ...
what it is to make love with a boy or a girl?
Do you not suffer from it?
It is beautiful suffering.
Very beautiful even.
There is...
a guest who says that he heard you scream.
On the path, after the apparitions.
Shout?
I did not scream. Why would I?
No idea. That's what he said.
I did not scream.
Does he lie?
People are talking nonsense about the apparitions.
I have heard everything.
I just want to understand why he said that.
Why did Meriem suddenly disappear?
And why does it seem like you have your answer to be ready for every question?
You are too furious to accept what I saw.
I am here to ask you something.
The committee wants the relic have it analyzed.
That's not allowed. The cloth is sacred.
I do not determine that. I can not do anything for you.
I beg you, stay away!
Stand up, Anna.
I will help you. - Stop that.
Please! - Get up, Anna.
You can not make that. Please! - Anna, please, get up.
Promise me. - Stand up.
I'm not talking about that.
Is everything alright?
Sorry. I'm coming.
How do you go back? - On foot.
Its not far.
Will you be coming to Mass next week?
Do you want me to come?
Yes. It is important that you are there.
Thank you.
I know the Mother of God protect us.
Her name was Safia Ayad.
A, Y, A, D.
It was in 2005.
I only have a name, not a prison.
Gaspard Lumio.
Gaspard Lumio.
L, U, M, I, O.
You may have a number on which I can reach his lawyer?
You are not doing well.
You do not have your lunch.
Do you want to talk about it?
You can come to me.
I just ask you for a simple blessing.
It will not be long. I guarantee you that.
Look, these are the gifts
for the parishes that support us.
A simple blessing is sufficient, but it is important to them
to know that you have touched the things.
Safia was 25 when she died.
Her family did not hear anything, so I arranged the funeral.
Here is the autopsy report.
She was born in '82 in Djelfa, in Algeria.
So a Muslim. - Yes.
She lived with a bandit that left her with a child.
She has renounced the child.
And after that she stayed here and there in the region.
So she has in '97 or '98 a child.
Was that a boy or a girl? - A girl.
A girl of 17 or 18 Lumio searched in prison.
I have a picture.
Look.
Meriem.
Meriem Almedia.
Is that her real name? - I think so. I think.
Do you not know anything about her? - No.
As if she went up in smoke.
Sorry, I have a session. I have to go.
Strength. Call me if you ... - Yes.
Is there a letter for me? - Yes.
How long have you eaten?
How far do you want to go?
I think about you every day.
I'm waiting for you, now and in the hereafter. Meriem.
I was afraid you would get lost.
How are you? - Yes.
Are you coming here often? - If I want to be alone.
Do you often want to be alone?
Once in a while.
It's nice, with the mountains, right?
Do you hear the river?
How long have you been home? - Since I've been here.
And do you miss your family?
Yes, but it's better for them if I'm far away for a while.
"A while"?
Are you asking the questions today?
No idea. I try to get to know you better.
We do not always have to to have me.
Do you take a note pad?
Do you know the story from the son of the antiquarian?
When the antiquarian died,
The son inherited his shop and the entire contents.
He found an envelope on the desk with "do not open" on it.
He thought it was his last will, so he decided not to open it.
He wondered all his life what was in it.
When he was the same age as his father, he decided to open the envelope.
And do you know what was in it?
Dozens of labels with "not opening".
The father stuck those labels on the boxes he sold.
Not bad.
You never have your parents trying to find?
No.
I found a family here which I have chosen myself.
Does it hurt?
Where does it hurt?
To my ear.
Just like someone pokes something into it.
I thought it was over.
No worries. It'll blow over.
I am finally full with love and desire.
I offer you my body and soul, Lord.
My love turns into a flames sea
and will rise like a flame at the end of my life,
and then I know what love is,
finally.
What are you doing? You can not make that.
Hands off.
Do not touch that.
Careful, sir.
You have nothing to look for here. This is the House of God!
Stop!
Stop! - Do not touch him, he's holy!
Stop! Stop!
Stop! Do not touch him!
Stop...
Stop. Do not film that.
She has nothing on, pastor.
I know you're the journalist of the commission.
What happened?
Is there something I should know?
PART 5: REVELATION
God be praised! All internet connections work.
Hello, pastor.
More than fifteen prayer groups
will be online in America at the same time.
About ten in the Netherlands, in Austria and of course in France.
Look.
How are you doing today?
Only when the pilgrims in large numbers started to flow,
the Church began to get interested in Bernadette.
The believers are the judgment of the Church has always been for.
The same applies here.
The believers are here, on our side.
I know that.
Do you think she is able to come?
I think that committee is a poison.
An ordeal.
The evil...
The spirit of Evil.
It is in each of us.
I found your letter ...
at Meriems foster parents.
I know she was looking for you.
I want to know whether you have heard from her.
Do you know where she is?
Is Meriem the daughter of Safia?
Do you hear us?
You have to eat, Anna.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
You are too proud.
Perhaps Meriem knew something, but she is gone or killed.
We had to investigate an appearance,
no horrible murder.
What if there is a link?
Then the total does not fall within the canonical norms.
Canonical standards?
Meriem's ​​mother was murdered.
And a few years later she looked for the killer.
They became friends and they wrote him about religion and forgiveness.
The murderer! And she was Anna's best friend.
That is something common to a Christian.
And she disappeared
during the apparitions. Is not that a sign?
A sign? Do you believe in signs then?
No, but. - It does not concern us.
Me, because it does not match with what is customary for you.
And because of your canonical standards we may miss reality.
Sorry, but you do not understand anything about our mission.
True!
They asked me for this research to deal with it differently.
To get something more concrete.
Oh yes, you are talking about reality. It does not exist.
It is an illusion. You always find the truth elsewhere.
And you do not understand that!
I must know if there is a lie to me!
I need to know if I can believe that girl.
I want to prove facts.
Excuse me.
Unknown
Will you be there tomorrow?
Yes I'll be there.
And will you come to me?
Yes.
How do you feel?
Can I do something for you?
Martyrdom is a reward, jacques.
I hope I deserve it to suffer so much.
Thanks.
Backwards! Give her some air.
Backwards, please.
Give her room to breathe.
We're taking her. Lift her up.
On the side, please.
Leave us alone now.
Forward.
Out of the way!
Dear brothers and sisters ...
It is a very heavy burden
to be chosen by the Mother of God
as Her messenger.
The soul is strong, but the body weak.
Let us pray for her.
Breathe normally.
If so. Breath.
How long have you eaten anything?
Thanks for everything.
How are you?
I think you are dangerous.
And I that you are hollow inside.
I can see that in your eyes.
I can share my conclusion with you,
but you will not get the report, that is confidential.
My first point is about the analysis of the substance.
Undoubtedly a torn sheet, given the edges.
It is a very ordinary thing contemporary mass product.
A mix of cotton and linen.
It is an ordinary sheet that you can buy anywhere.
And what about the blood?
It's from a male person,
but we can not date it, because it is dried blood.
Have you found DNA? - Yes.
Yes, given the DNA it would go to a 30-year-old European man.
And it corresponds to DNA from the police database?
You must ask them. I do not have access.
But what seems interesting to me for your research,
is that the blood group is AB.
AB?
Why is that so interesting?
That blood group has been found on multiple holy relics.
What do you mean? - One has
that blood group found on several relics.
The Shroud of Turin,
the Sacred Skirt of Argentueil,
and Oviedo's sweat.
It is therefore scientifically proven that those relics were of Christ?
No. The Church allows believers to worship them,
but does not guarantee its authenticity.
What did you expect now? Proof?
Proof of which?
Then we would no longer have a choice and there would be no mystery anymore.
Believing is a free, deliberate choice.
They decide to believe the mystery and does not need proof,
no blood group. There is no mystery. It is nonsense.
It's one big lie, with mass products.
It has nothing to do with faith.
Have you never believed Anna?
Why would I?
Tell me that. Why would I believe in it?
Dear brothers and sisters ...
The great sin of the modern world is probably
refuse to believe in what is invisible.
By searching for a banal proof for the great mystery
has the canonical investigation committee
error on mistake,
make mistakes
and humiliated people.
But...
the Spirit of Power is in Anna.
We now know that there is a great fate for her is reserved.
For her...
the truth is self-evident.
A canonization.
It is easy.
These images of Mother Teresa
have moved me a lot,
like many people.
That was the reason
why I lead this life now.
WHO ARE THE FRENCH PRIESTS IN AFRICA?
The conclusion was made in 1981 of the research
to the Shroud of Turin for a decisive element.
What we know, is that it concerns the blood group AB.
At that time there were many people with that blood group, especially in that region.
There are people now with that blood group.
I own blood group AB.
What is it, Jacques?
Anton is behind that sweat cloth.
He made it up.
Where are you? Do you want me to come to you?
I do not know the rest. - You must rest.
What did she see? What happened to Meriem?
Why do you think she is missing?
She would never leave without saying anything.
She never did that.
Never.
We have no news.
Did you call the hospital? - She is not there.
This way it is certain that she does not say anything.
We have to do something. I am going there.
It does not concern us. - Oh no?
Unknown
Are you Jacques?
Where is Anna?
Do you know that?
I had to give this to you.
DO NOT OPEN
Do you hear me?
Say something to me.
LOVE
Madam, keep your eyes open.
Mrs!
Keep your eyes open. - The pulse is weak.
Blood pressure: 70/40.
Heart rate: 130.
She is conscious.
Mrs...
Desaturation. - Cold limbs.
I still have a pulse.
Blood pressure drops. - She pulls the hose loose.
Bradycardia. - I do not have a pulse.
Stay awake, madam.
Backwards.
Ready.
Three two one...
Charge up to 300 joules.
Load...
Charged.
I needed her.
Did he give you that cloth?
It was only a symbol.
Who is that guest?
A charlatan?
Someone who has lost his way.
I have also lost track.
So she lied?
I do not decide that.
But you know?
Not yet.
Part 6: Meriem
Monsignor,
here are the findings of the research
to which you let me cooperate.
It contains the interrogations, testimonials and reports
from the specialists with whom I did research
to the alleged apparitions.
It is now up to you to draw a conclusion.
I think of her, to those who loved her,
to those who want to believe in the miracle.
I think what she meant for me.
For us.
She took her secret into the grave.
I'm going back home now,
back to my family, my daily life and my work.
Thank you for me entrusted this task.
He raised unexpected questions with me.
I do not know all the answers.
I think of the story about that angel
a young virgin came to say that she was pregnant with the Son of God.
I think of my friend, who is also dead,
to that photographer who always sought visible evidence,
images of the truth ...
Which truth?
Which images?
The truth can always be elsewhere.
How can we believe in what we do not see?
I already had so many things seen on earth,
but with Anna I discovered a world that I did not know.
I now know that souls have their own world.
And I knew nothing about that world.
I stay, Monsignor,
with the greatest of esteem,
Jacques Mayano.
Day.
Can I help you?
I want to talk to you about Anna.
She gave me the letters.
Anna has not seen anything.
It was you.
You were the one who screamed.
I screamed because I was afraid.
I do not know...
It was too much for me.
Nobody would have believed me.
I wanted to leave,
having a child.
Do not get entangled in it.
So Anna sacrificed herself.
She did it to save me,
so that I could live.
She was my girlfriend.
Do you believe me?
I do not know.
I was there when your friend took the photo.
That with the girl.
I remember him.
I spoke to him.
He was not afraid.
Do you remember where the church is? - It is not a church.
It is a monastery.
They destroyed it.
It is far away.
You must cross the border.
That is dangerous.
I'll see.
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