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Arnold Kopelson, John Daly, England,
put up the money.
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That was quite something.
I couldn't get the money for 10 years,
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and a British company finally put it up
and took a chance.
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Grandiose opening invocation,
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sort of something from the lliad
or the Odyssey,
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but it's the Bible, I felt, would be...
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"Rejoice, O young man.
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"Rejoice in thy life
and the days of thy youth."
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We located... We put a lot of dust in there.
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It was hard to get this airport
in the Philippines, in Manila.
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Outside Manila.
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And we also get the planes.
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We didn't have a lot of money
to make the movie, less... About $6 million.
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So it was all struggling.
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We got this gigantic plane
through bartering.
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Coming out of the belly of the whale
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was the first memory of a lot
of my memory over there in Vietnam.
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When I arrived in September, 1967,
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September 15th, to be precise,
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it was my 21st birthday.
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Came out of these big planes
on the way inland,
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actually, from Cam Ranh Bay,
back into places like Cu Chi.
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This would probably be
like arriving at Cu Chi.
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Or it could be from Cu Chi up to Dau Tieng,
which was the Third...
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Third Brigade base camp
where I was based,
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in the rubber plantation.
Michelin rubber plantation.
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Near the Cambodian border. Not far from it.
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This...
I remember seeing bodies coming out
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as we arrived at various places.
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There'd always be bodies moving back.
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And, obviously you can see
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that the guys who came into Vietnam
were replacements.
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They just went...
Filtered out for these dead people.
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They would be sent to the units
where these dead people had come from.
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So we were all broken up when we arrived.
Very few of us stayed together
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from basic training, the advanced training,
or anything.
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We just were separated.
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Here's the returning veterans.
And I'd look for a man with a death's head.
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Oh, Lord!
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Xin loi, buddy.
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Crossing dollies.
I remember we did that out at the airport.
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That was an interesting shot.
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And Adagio by Samuel Barber
sort of came about
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because we wanted a noble theme,
a solemn theme, an austere one.
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And in the temp dub, while we were
editing the film, we cut it to Barber.
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We asked our composer, Georges Delerue,
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French composer
who worked with Francois Truffaut,
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to follow this style of this.
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to follow this style of this.
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And he worked very hard, Georges,
and worked very difficult hours
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to match the majesty of Barber,
but it's impossible.
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We ended up using much of Georges' music
in the movie,
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and we'll see that later,
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but this opening theme
could not be matched.
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So we went with the Adagio from
the temp dub and we left it into the final.
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I wanted to introduce the men
in the platoon in this sequence,
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quiet silence of the jungle,
moving through bush.
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Men fell, men slipped, men cut themselves.
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It's hard to move through bush,
and I wanted to establish that.
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This is a young point man, Charlie Sheen.
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He's never been around,
doesn't know much,
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and he's cutting point,
practically the first day.
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It's a very... Happened to me.
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And it represents, sort of,
the demoralized state of this unit, too.
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They would put a guy who really
didn't have much experience up on point.
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These are flank guys.
They're out there on the flank.
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And these guys are M79s.
You see M60s. You see M16s.
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Who's on Tail-end Charlie?
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And it's the faces of the young guys
that are so important, too,
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โcause that's why I made all these troops
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go through two weeks of jungle training
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with Captain Dale Dye, there,
our technical advisor.
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I wanted them to not sleep
for two weeks, essentially,
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and to really feel what it was like
to live in the earth, next to the...
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In the jungle.
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To get the smell of the jungle. No showers.
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No sleep.
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By the time they started to work here...
This is one of the first scenes we shot.
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They were really pissed off, these troops.
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Pissed off at me, pissed off at the world.
They were hungry.
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So it was a great experience.
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You can't take an actor and just make him
into an infantryman like that.
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You need to have a context.
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-Get up.
-Get up.
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Get a move on, boy.
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Charlie's beginning to just fall apart here.
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You can see the state that he's getting into,
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where you just get so exhausted
you don't even see what's in front of you,
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and the six inches
in front of your face are gone.
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He...
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He smells death here.
You smell it before you see it.
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It's a dead Vietnamese soldier.
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Could be NVA, could be Vietcong.
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Boy, what you waiting for?
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That's Sgt. Barnes,
who is his platoon sergeant.
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He walks right behind him
and gave him a hard time.
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Gave me a hard time, too.
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Set up the tension of the jungle,
silence, the smell, the feel.
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All these young actors
were really a pleasure to pick.
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They... Johnny Depp, Forest Whitaker,
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they all moved on
to do something with their lives,
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and this was, like,
almost their first or second film roles,
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and it was just great
to be with a bunch like this.
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It was sort of my fantasy
of a John Sturges picture,
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like The Magnificent Seven or something,
but with youngsters.
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And I kind of sensed that these guys
would be around for some years,
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and it would be a pleasure
to, sort of, have known them in their youth.
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Tom Berenger had been on a downslide,
I think, in TV stuff and...
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And it was a pleasure to work with him,
and it was fine.
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I always thought he was a rugged guy,
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and I was able to work with him
and get his tougher side out there.
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Gardner, up.
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Gardner, get your ass up the hill,
you fat fuck!
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They feel lost in this jungle.
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They're wandering like ghosts
in the landscape.
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There's not much sense of purpose
or destination or...
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Like, in the World War Il or Korean pictures,
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you know, you're going someplace,
you have a mission.
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Here, the mission is basically
just to keep walking.
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And red ants, black ants, they were...
Red ants were...
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Black ants were actually worse,
worse bite than red ants,
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but they plagued us all the time.
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And Willem Dafoe
as Sgt. Elias is interesting,
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also cast against type.
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Because Berenger had been
sort of the good guy,
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and I basically made him
a little more darker.
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And Willem, here,
who had been playing thugs and terrorists,
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and I thought
I could do something with him,
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his sweetness,
his essential sort of Nordic sweetness.
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I don't want you cramping up.
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You're humping too much stuff, troop.
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You don't need half this shit.
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Got a nice voice, Willem,
very soft and soothing.
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We shot a lot of corals.
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I remember we tested in the jungle,
in the Philippines.
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And this is a rainforest
about two hours out of Manila.
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We were based in Manila, I think,
at this point,
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and went back and forth every day.
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Charlie has a heat spell and faints.
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This is a very difficult location to get to.
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Two-Two, this is Six.
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I understand you have a bird inbound
at your pos at this time.
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Tough shot.
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A lot of close helicopter work.
We almost got wiped out a couple of times.
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Bravo Six, Bravo Six, be advised.
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This is...
Well, we secured perimeters every night
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in Vietnam, dug our holes.
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This is hard work.
Get the water out, get the re-supplies.
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Another tough shot.
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You can see the actors are really struggling
against the prop wash.
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Move it!
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And the feet are always getting swollen.
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People are screwing around
with their feet, too,
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to try to get out of the field, too, โcause
it's a miserable existence sometimes.
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You see some nice coral work here.
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We gave it a nice flavor for... A reddish hue.
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We built these perimeters.
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Yeah, I had a problem with my...
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One of the producers and I were arguing
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โcause I really wanted to get up on this hill
over here. This is a fairly large hike.
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I mean, there was no car, vehicles,
able to get into this spot.
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So we walked about a mile up the valley
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into this hill range, and we...
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And I said
I wanted everybody to sleep out here.
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And, "Let's do it like the old John Ford
pictures, where you just camp out.โ
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So they all said yes
and they went up the hill.
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We did the shooting
and they all went back...
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They ran back down the hill that night
to get back to the hotels.
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But we got up there and it's a hard...
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You can see how far it is from anything.
You can sense it.
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What you been smoking, Junior?
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There's Forest Whitaker.
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And Reggie Johnson's
another fine young actor.
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...hump, hump, and hump.
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Hey, white boy, what you waiting for?
That hole ain't gonna dig itself.
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Come on, boy.
Get your dick skin on that thing! Dig!
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We ain't got all day! Dig! Dig!
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Somebody once wrote,
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"Hell is the impossibility of reason."
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That's what this place feels like. Hell.
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I hate it already.
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These were my feelings, pretty much,
at the time.
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I was really caught out of sorts.
I mean, I was a good athlete, but I just...
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As a soldier, this is a rugged life,
and cutting point all day,
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not knowing anybody, being picked on
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because they didn't care
about the new guys as much, you know?
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They were... We were expendable.
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Because if you'd been there for a while,
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you always bonded with the people
who had been there with you.
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So that was...
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I, as all people, a lot of new people were,
was lost and confused
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and writing letters to my grandmother,
of all people,
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because I was having a struggle
with my parents at that time
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and I wasn't getting along with them,
so I was writing to my grandmother.
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And these guys were all in my...
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I was in four different combat platoons,
basically, and...
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First Cavalry, First Air Cav.
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And this is a combination of men
that I met in these units.
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So it's not necessarily that they're all
in the same unit at the same time.
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Sgt. Barnes and Sgt. Elias
were not in the same unit
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at the same time, for example.
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I don't think I can keep this up for a year,
Grandma.
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I think I made a big mistake coming here.
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Charlie has an interesting stoicism
in his face.
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At the same time, he evokes a boy
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who comes from a middle-class strata
of America,
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or upper-middle-class strata.
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So that was an interesting added extra
for me.
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I liked Charlie's integrity.
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I almost cast his brother Emilio in it
a few years before,
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when I was trying to make the film,
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and it's ironic that Charlie,
who I'd met when he was 15 years old,
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came back in when he was about 19, 18,
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and the moment he walked in the room,
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I knew he was the right one.
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Roger that.
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Okay, move out in two-zero mikes.
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The scar on Sgt. Barnes
is the work of Gordon Smith.
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It's a very interesting new technique
that was used at that time,
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in 1986, when we shot the movie.
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It involved applying a glue-like prosthetic
to his face
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and giving it that shape within an hour,
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and then I think we got it down...
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By the end, we got it down
to about a half an hour of work.
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So it's an amazing amount of work.
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I mean, it probably could...
The conventional way,
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it would have taken hours
to put that makeup on.
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It did have a tightening effect
and a deleterious effect on Berenger's skin,
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So we used it sparingly
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so that he would not...
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In other words,
we would ask them to put the scar on
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when we did all or as much work
as we could on the right side of his face,
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so that he wouldn't have to walk around
with it all day long.
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I think, in front of the men,
it's necessary for me to give the orders.
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Beautiful Philippine foliage colors.
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Long-lensing here in this valley.
237
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This is a shot done at the lip of night.
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One of my favorite shots.
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You see a storm coming up.
240
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...crotch rot
on that ugly face of yours, Junior.
241
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Goddamn, man.
You break your ass for the white man.
242
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No justice, right?
243
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What's O'Neill got,
a nose up the lieutenant's ass already?
244
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How come we always get fucking ambush?
245
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'Cause it's politics, man, politics.
246
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Hey, Chris, did I show you
a picture of Lucy Jean?
247
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No, you didn't.
248
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She's the one for me, all right,
that Lucy Jean.
249
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-And she's waiting for me, too.
-Yeah, she's real pretty.
250
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You're a lucky guy, Gardner.
251
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-Hey, you got a picture of your girl?
-No.
252
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I guess that leaves some unlucky girl
back at home, don't it?
253
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I went with boys...
This boy had never acted before.
254
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I went with boys from Southern towns,
small towns, people with accents.
255
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I wanted to get as much of America
as I could in the picture.
256
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Elias is good to Charlie,
257
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establishes a relationship with him
out of just need,
258
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because he knows that these guys
aren't gonna make it by themselves,
259
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So he's trying to be helpful
in some minimal way.
260
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Bear in mind that these men, you know,
are not bad, they're just tired.
261
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And when you're very tired, you're irritable
and you're struggling for your own,
262
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it's hard to take care of somebody else
263
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who comes into the unit,
who doesn't know what he's doing.
264
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So it's not like there is a badness,
265
00:14:38,628 --> 00:14:40,964
a bad lynch-gang mentality here at all,
266
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but they're just being ignored.
267
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Lock and load!
268
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Night ambush is something
we all never liked,
269
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I mean, no matter how good you were.
You'd come out there every night.
270
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You'd go out there from the perimeter
on the nights that you went out,
271
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and it was spooky
272
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โcause anything could happen
out there at night.
273
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That's an optical we laid in.
274
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I wanted to get a sense of the rain
that was coming on,
275
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โcause I remember ambushes
where we'd sit in the rain all damn night
276
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and be soaked to the bone.
277
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This is one of those nights.
278
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It happened to me right away,
early on in my stay,
279
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where I was
280
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on an ambush where I fell asleep,
281
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as you'll see.
282
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They wanted me to be just like them,
283
00:15:40,732 --> 00:15:44,611
respectable, hard-working,
a little house, a family.
284
00:15:45,112 --> 00:15:48,073
They drove me crazy
with their goddamn world, Grandma.
285
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You know Mom.
286
00:15:52,244 --> 00:15:54,704
I guess, I mean, I've always been sheltered
and special.
287
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I just want to be anonymous,
like everybody else.
288
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Do my share for my country.
289
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Live up to what Grandpa did
in the first war, and Dad did in the second.
290
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Well, here I am, anonymous, all right.
291
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With guys nobody really cares about.
292
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They come from the end of the line,
most of them,
293
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small towns you never heard of.
294
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That's Anthony Quinn's son.
295
00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:17,477
Pulaski, Tennessee. Brandon, Mississippi.
296
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Pork Bend, Utah. Wampum, Pennsylvania.
297
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Two years high school's about it.
298
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Maybe if they're lucky,
a job waiting for them back in a factory.
299
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But most of them got nothing.
300
00:16:28,113 --> 00:16:30,282
They're poor. They're the unwanted.
301
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Yet they're fighting
for our society and our freedom.
302
00:16:34,035 --> 00:16:37,998
It's weird, isn't it? They're
the bottom of the barrel, and they know it.
303
00:16:38,248 --> 00:16:40,417
Maybe that's why
they call themselves grunts,
304
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โcause a grunt can take it,
can take anything.
305
00:16:44,045 --> 00:16:47,591
They're the best I've ever seen, Grandma.
The heart and soul.
306
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Hey, Taylor.
307
00:16:53,096 --> 00:16:55,432
Hey, cheese-dick, you're up.
308
00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:57,184
-What?
-You're up.
309
00:17:00,437 --> 00:17:04,441
Keith David as King,
310
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who was also a fairly new actor,
311
00:17:06,943 --> 00:17:09,946
and has just a great, Shakespearean
baritone voice.
312
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He resembled so many guys that I knew
that were strong
313
00:17:14,075 --> 00:17:17,370
and who were helpful to me in the field.
Helped keep me alive.
314
00:17:17,454 --> 00:17:20,790
This guy was based on a guy I knew
from Texas, who was a real badass
315
00:17:20,916 --> 00:17:22,334
and not very nice.
316
00:17:23,418 --> 00:17:25,253
Looking through
one of these stupid scopes.
317
00:17:25,337 --> 00:17:28,798
Any Vietnam veteran will tell you,
early on, from the '67 times,
318
00:17:29,257 --> 00:17:32,594
how difficult to see
through these things at night.
319
00:17:32,677 --> 00:17:35,972
They always would get wet
or smoggy or something, never worked.
320
00:17:36,306 --> 00:17:39,017
So here we see a transition.
He's tired and he's...
321
00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:41,228
The rain is stopping.
This is a dangerous time,
322
00:17:41,311 --> 00:17:44,773
because the mosquitoes come out
on full force.
323
00:17:44,856 --> 00:17:47,400
And they are serious mosquitoes
over there.
324
00:17:47,651 --> 00:17:51,154
And you get bitten to death.
I hated those mosquitoes.
325
00:17:52,447 --> 00:17:54,866
But it's one of my favorite voice letters...
326
00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:59,788
Voice letters that he sends in the movie
to his grandma,
327
00:17:59,871 --> 00:18:03,416
describing his feelings of being...
Wanting to be anonymous
328
00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:05,085
and wanting to escape
329
00:18:05,168 --> 00:18:08,588
from what he thinks is the fake Western life
330
00:18:08,672 --> 00:18:09,839
that he had been growing up in,
331
00:18:09,923 --> 00:18:13,134
and he wants to, sort of,
find out where reality is in his life.
332
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,136
Junior.
333
00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:19,474
So he goes to the bottom of the barrel here
and he wakes up Mr. Junior...
334
00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:21,393
It's your shift, man!
335
00:18:21,476 --> 00:18:25,355
...who's played by Reggie Johnson.
336
00:18:26,022 --> 00:18:27,148
Badass kid.
337
00:18:56,970 --> 00:18:59,431
Reggie's obviously fallen asleep.
338
00:19:00,265 --> 00:19:02,809
Chris Taylor, Charlie Sheen here, jumps up,
339
00:19:02,892 --> 00:19:05,145
and he's just shocked awake.
He knows something's up.
340
00:19:05,228 --> 00:19:07,022
Mosquitoes are eating him.
341
00:19:07,355 --> 00:19:11,026
You can see the bumps on his skin.
Big bumps.
342
00:19:11,109 --> 00:19:13,111
Everybody's asleep.
He doesn't know where he is.
343
00:19:13,194 --> 00:19:15,071
Those mosquitoes are killing him.
344
00:19:16,448 --> 00:19:19,409
Doesn't know what time it is.
Can't even see his watch.
345
00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:25,415
Nice use of sound here
346
00:19:25,498 --> 00:19:29,252
to create a tension and foreboding.
347
00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:38,762
Mosquitoes are really so bad
that you really want to cover up completely
348
00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:41,473
and hide from them with a towel, anything.
349
00:19:42,223 --> 00:19:45,101
And at the same time,
you gotta keep your eye out.
350
00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:48,438
Get hot under that towel. Miserable.
351
00:19:49,230 --> 00:19:51,191
Moments there
that you thought, "My God."
352
00:19:51,274 --> 00:19:53,902
You know,
you'd rather shoot yourself than go on.
353
00:19:54,277 --> 00:19:57,030
And, you know, takes hours and hours
of ambush time,
354
00:19:57,113 --> 00:19:59,240
just sitting there, sitting there.
355
00:19:59,324 --> 00:20:00,867
Movie, of course, goes much faster,
356
00:20:00,950 --> 00:20:04,496
So you have this whole problem
of reality versus movie time,
357
00:20:04,579 --> 00:20:06,414
but things speed up in movies.
358
00:20:06,498 --> 00:20:11,169
But you try to condense and give
a compressed reflection of the truth.
359
00:20:17,133 --> 00:20:19,219
God, terrifying image to him.
360
00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:22,889
He sees... Suddenly, for the first time
in his arrival in Vietnam,
361
00:20:22,972 --> 00:20:24,516
he sees the enemy.
362
00:20:25,767 --> 00:20:28,937
He looks at his claymore
and he can't reach it,
363
00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:31,064
because he thinks that if he reaches for it,
364
00:20:31,147 --> 00:20:34,317
it's gonna make noise
and they will hear it and kill him.
365
00:20:34,526 --> 00:20:35,610
He's terrified.
366
00:20:35,693 --> 00:20:38,822
He's looking at his grenades โcause
they told him to throw the grenades, too.
367
00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:40,031
"Don't fire. Throw your...
368
00:20:40,115 --> 00:20:43,243
"Blow your claymore, throw your grenades,
and choose your rifle.โ
369
00:20:43,326 --> 00:20:46,246
In that order. That's the standard policy.
370
00:20:46,704 --> 00:20:48,915
He can't do any of it.
He can't call for his other men.
371
00:20:48,998 --> 00:20:53,586
We put a wide-angle lens on the camera.
It looks like they're further away from him.
372
00:20:53,670 --> 00:20:55,797
And the enemy is getting closer.
373
00:20:56,214 --> 00:20:58,258
They're gonna see him any moment.
374
00:20:58,341 --> 00:21:00,427
He's terrified. He's frozen to the spot.
375
00:21:00,510 --> 00:21:03,388
He can't do anything. Nothing. He's dead.
376
00:21:09,686 --> 00:21:11,688
Blow the fucking claymore!
377
00:21:12,647 --> 00:21:14,274
What the hell happened?
378
00:21:14,524 --> 00:21:16,443
Somebody blew something.
He doesn't know what it is.
379
00:21:16,526 --> 00:21:18,611
It's all confusion now.
He can't blow the claymore.
380
00:21:18,695 --> 00:21:20,738
The safety's on. He fucked up.
381
00:21:21,239 --> 00:21:23,700
The other guy reaches over,
blows the claymore for him.
382
00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:25,201
The claymore goes. He got one of them.
383
00:21:25,285 --> 00:21:28,496
They're up there. He's firing. It's confusion.
384
00:21:28,580 --> 00:21:32,292
Everybody's firing. No one knows
who's firing at what half the time.
385
00:21:33,543 --> 00:21:36,504
And here's Tex.
He's going for his M60. He's firing.
386
00:21:36,588 --> 00:21:39,048
He's got one of them somewhere,
he thinks.
387
00:21:40,675 --> 00:21:42,802
Here he is, Sgt. McGinley.
388
00:21:42,886 --> 00:21:44,679
He throws the grenade. Stupid idiot.
389
00:21:44,762 --> 00:21:48,141
Blows Charlie Sheen away and Tex away.
390
00:21:48,224 --> 00:21:49,434
Blows his arm off.
391
00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:54,105
Often happened. Many of our casualties
were from friendly fire, not enemy fire.
392
00:21:54,481 --> 00:21:57,984
Who knows how many? 20%, 30%?
I've heard higher estimates.
393
00:21:58,067 --> 00:22:02,739
But this is a common condition of war
that is overlooked in war movies.
394
00:22:03,406 --> 00:22:06,910
This is Tex. He's in pain.
Tourniquet comes on. That's Doc.
395
00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:09,996
Now Charlie thinks he's dead.
396
00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:13,124
He just felt the blood
coming off the back of his neck,
397
00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:16,127
and as I did, I was shot that night myself,
398
00:22:16,211 --> 00:22:19,005
I felt like I was dying. I got shot in the neck.
399
00:22:19,088 --> 00:22:20,089
It's a scratch.
400
00:22:21,049 --> 00:22:24,219
But it wasn't really a severe wound,
it was just a scratch.
401
00:22:24,302 --> 00:22:25,720
So you never know.
402
00:22:26,721 --> 00:22:28,515
No, I did not.
403
00:22:28,598 --> 00:22:32,310
Big Harold, you keep an eye on him.
You don't let him go into shock.
404
00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:34,229
Shut up!
405
00:22:34,312 --> 00:22:35,313
Here.
406
00:22:35,396 --> 00:22:36,814
Take the pain!
407
00:22:38,608 --> 00:22:41,986
That's one of my favorite lines.
I try and remember it every day.
408
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:43,613
"Take the pain.โ
409
00:22:44,948 --> 00:22:46,074
Guys go into shock.
They die from shock, too.
410
00:22:46,157 --> 00:22:47,825
Sometimes they die from internal bleeding.
411
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:49,786
They're smiling,
you put them on the helicopter,
412
00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:51,204
and they're gone, you know?
413
00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:56,167
Now we're looking...
They're looking for, you know, body...
414
00:22:56,251 --> 00:23:00,463
I forgot the word. Blood trails.
415
00:23:00,838 --> 00:23:03,383
They've found one.
He finds one, he shoots him.
416
00:23:03,466 --> 00:23:04,759
That's Barnes.
417
00:23:05,468 --> 00:23:08,596
He's not supposed to shoot him.
He could've gotten information out of him,
418
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,056
brought him in.
419
00:23:10,139 --> 00:23:13,476
But Barnes has a vendetta
with the Vietcong.
420
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,853
Do you know if... If you're gonna die?
421
00:23:18,481 --> 00:23:21,317
Do you feel like
everything's just gonna be fine?
422
00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:23,278
He thinks he's dying. He's on morphine.
423
00:23:23,361 --> 00:23:25,029
We're about to get out of here.
424
00:23:25,113 --> 00:23:27,657
They gonna give you
three hot meals a day,
425
00:23:28,032 --> 00:23:29,492
white sheets.
426
00:23:30,285 --> 00:23:31,995
Them pretty white nurses.
427
00:23:32,495 --> 00:23:36,416
Everybody dreamed about getting out
of the field, getting into the hospital.
428
00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:38,418
White nurses when you're back.
429
00:23:38,501 --> 00:23:42,297
The cocksucker fell asleep. He let them
walk right up on us and he don't do shit!
430
00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:43,548
Junior blamed me.
431
00:23:43,631 --> 00:23:46,718
The real Junior blamed me
for falling asleep on this position.
432
00:23:48,303 --> 00:23:52,181
That is a point still in debate
in the historical texts right up till today,
433
00:23:52,265 --> 00:23:54,267
but I think Junior fell asleep.
434
00:23:55,435 --> 00:23:56,936
How long is...
435
00:23:58,313 --> 00:24:00,315
Charlie thinks he's dying,
but he's not really.
436
00:24:00,398 --> 00:24:03,526
And the other guy... The guy
who was really dying is his buddy, Gardner,
437
00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:04,736
right here.
438
00:24:05,403 --> 00:24:10,116
Now, Gardner is based on a guy
who was...
439
00:24:10,199 --> 00:24:11,618
Not quite like this,
440
00:24:11,701 --> 00:24:15,163
but the guy that I knew, Gardner,
was from the South,
441
00:24:15,246 --> 00:24:18,374
and he was smiling
as we put him on the chopper.
442
00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:21,044
And he died several hours later
of internal bleeding.
443
00:24:21,127 --> 00:24:22,837
Nobody could believe it.
444
00:24:23,921 --> 00:24:26,424
Here he dies pretty quickly, I'd say.
445
00:24:27,717 --> 00:24:30,470
That's sort of the way we did it.
Sometimes they got carried away.
446
00:24:30,553 --> 00:24:33,973
You know, you try to keep somebody alive
with noise and beatings and stuff,
447
00:24:34,057 --> 00:24:37,685
and they're gone.
It's too bad. He was a good kid.
448
00:24:41,397 --> 00:24:44,359
Everybody feels bad about it in the field.
449
00:24:45,318 --> 00:24:48,112
And especially
if they think it's that guy's fault.
450
00:24:48,196 --> 00:24:51,240
So he's gonna take the onus of the blame,
451
00:24:51,699 --> 00:24:55,411
which I did,
and it's a hard thing to live with, too, but...
452
00:24:55,787 --> 00:25:00,083
It's a lot of anger and irritation,
this particular ambush.
453
00:25:03,795 --> 00:25:05,922
Remember what it looks like.
454
00:25:07,215 --> 00:25:08,841
You fuck up in a firefight
455
00:25:08,925 --> 00:25:12,178
and I goddamn guarantee you
a trip out of the bush
456
00:25:12,762 --> 00:25:14,305
in a body bag!
457
00:25:14,972 --> 00:25:18,518
Out here, assholes,
you keep your shit wired tight at all times!
458
00:25:22,105 --> 00:25:24,816
And that goes for you, shit-for-brains.
459
00:25:25,775 --> 00:25:28,444
You don't sleep on no fucking ambush!
460
00:25:31,364 --> 00:25:32,699
On the other hand, Barnes...
461
00:25:32,782 --> 00:25:34,992
...I catch copping "Z"s in the bush,
462
00:25:35,076 --> 00:25:37,495
I'm personally gonna take an interest
in seeing him suffer.
463
00:25:37,578 --> 00:25:41,249
It seems like Barnes knows and senses
that Junior could've screwed up, too,
464
00:25:41,332 --> 00:25:43,167
and that's why he's giving him
that second look.
465
00:25:43,251 --> 00:25:45,628
But he's putting the overt blame on Chris.
466
00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:49,173
At this actual ambush, it was frustrating,
467
00:25:49,257 --> 00:25:54,220
because we actually blew claymores,
shot up three NVA soldiers,
468
00:25:55,638 --> 00:26:00,435
and we only found one body, I think one
long blood trail for several hundred yards,
469
00:26:00,518 --> 00:26:02,562
and the third person just vanished,
So they were...
470
00:26:02,645 --> 00:26:06,190
We began to think that they were
an amazingly supernatural type of soldiers.
471
00:26:06,274 --> 00:26:08,818
Police up your extra ammo and frags.
472
00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:12,739
In fact, you know, you could say that
there was something weird about them.
473
00:26:12,822 --> 00:26:16,325
They had a tremendous resistance to death
474
00:26:16,451 --> 00:26:19,287
and were very tenacious.
475
00:26:20,037 --> 00:26:23,875
We took several wounded that night.
We were supposed to be ambushing them.
476
00:26:26,878 --> 00:26:28,254
So,
477
00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:32,216
I went back to the hospital in the rear,
I spent a couple of days,
478
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:33,760
and then I went right back out to the bush.
479
00:26:33,843 --> 00:26:35,928
So this is the interlude back at base camp
480
00:26:36,012 --> 00:26:39,056
where I get to know people
a little bit better,
481
00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:40,933
because a wound kind of allows you in.
482
00:26:41,017 --> 00:26:44,479
A wound takes you
into another level of the infantry.
483
00:26:44,562 --> 00:26:46,481
You're more of a veteran.
484
00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:51,986
Ambush scene that night
485
00:26:52,069 --> 00:26:53,696
must have taken three,
four nights to shoot.
486
00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:55,239
It was a tough one.
487
00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:59,702
โCause the nights don't last that long.
We had rain, mosquitoes, real mosquitoes.
488
00:27:01,621 --> 00:27:05,249
Bob Richardson, my DP, and I,
it was our first big film together,
489
00:27:05,333 --> 00:27:09,128
and Bob was struggling with, you know,
lighting nights in the jungle.
490
00:27:09,212 --> 00:27:11,839
It's not easy with very limited equipment.
491
00:27:11,923 --> 00:27:14,091
Hey, King,
where'd you get those beers, boy?
492
00:27:14,383 --> 00:27:16,969
We went with the idea of,
at least in the daytimes,
493
00:27:17,053 --> 00:27:19,806
of a hard-to-see look in the jungle.
494
00:27:19,889 --> 00:27:23,142
Nothing is overt, nothing is easy to see.
495
00:27:23,226 --> 00:27:25,144
It's always hard to pick up, I mean...
496
00:27:25,228 --> 00:27:26,646
We went with that look in the daytime.
497
00:27:26,729 --> 00:27:29,732
Nighttime,
I think Bob was struggling more with it.
498
00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:33,736
I think we have, you know...
I think sometimes it was too clear,
499
00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:37,615
and, you know, you find that hard...
500
00:27:37,698 --> 00:27:40,618
You have that difficulty at night.
Sometimes you see too little,
501
00:27:40,701 --> 00:27:45,706
or do you see too much, you know,
and it's a hard margin to work.
502
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,045
This is based on the outhouse details
I worked on.
503
00:27:51,963 --> 00:27:55,550
We always... Guys like me and these guys
always ended up on outhouse detail,
504
00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:58,719
โcause we were always in the shithouse
in some way or another.
505
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,225
And we'd take the barrels out from
the toilets and burn them with kerosene,
506
00:28:04,725 --> 00:28:06,686
and philosophize as we did so.
507
00:28:10,064 --> 00:28:12,567
These guys are mostly talking
about getting out of Vietnam,
508
00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:15,862
which is an interesting issue,
because everybody had different dates.
509
00:28:15,945 --> 00:28:19,156
I mean, if you were there for...
You had 360 days to go, or...
510
00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,325
Sniff the pines.
511
00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:24,203
Sniff that cross-mounted pussy
down by the river.
512
00:28:24,287 --> 00:28:25,621
Hot damn!
513
00:28:26,622 --> 00:28:28,749
Oh, yeah. Always dreams of home.
514
00:28:28,833 --> 00:28:31,460
I mean, home never looked better
than in Vietnam.
515
00:28:32,003 --> 00:28:36,841
Little motels in Georgia, or houses
in Mississippi, New York apartments.
516
00:28:36,924 --> 00:28:39,218
I don't know,
anything seemed like a dream.
517
00:28:39,302 --> 00:28:41,888
We all built up fantasy castles in our head
518
00:28:41,971 --> 00:28:44,849
of what life would be like in the States
when we got back.
519
00:28:45,141 --> 00:28:49,353
Guys went back to beautiful women
and found out they were in divorces
520
00:28:49,437 --> 00:28:52,565
and had tremendous suicide problems.
521
00:28:52,648 --> 00:28:55,026
It was like a second war at home
when we returned.
522
00:28:55,109 --> 00:28:57,361
I tried to deal with that more
in Born on the Fourth of July.
523
00:28:57,445 --> 00:28:59,739
I volunteered. I dropped out of college,
524
00:28:59,822 --> 00:29:03,534
and told them I wanted the infantry,
combat, and Vietnam.
525
00:29:03,618 --> 00:29:06,120
You volunteered for this shit, man?
526
00:29:06,996 --> 00:29:08,664
You believe that?
527
00:29:08,831 --> 00:29:11,751
You's a crazy fucker, giving up college.
528
00:29:12,376 --> 00:29:15,379
It didn't make much sense.
I wasn't learning anything.
529
00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:17,840
I figured why should just the poor kids
go off to war
530
00:29:17,924 --> 00:29:19,550
and the rich kids always get away with it?
531
00:29:19,634 --> 00:29:22,595
Oh, I see. What we got here is a crusader.
532
00:29:23,846 --> 00:29:25,222
Sounds like it.
533
00:29:25,306 --> 00:29:26,474
Shit.
534
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:30,519
You gotta be rich in the first place
to think like that.
535
00:29:31,646 --> 00:29:33,189
Everybody know
536
00:29:35,358 --> 00:29:37,777
the poor always being fucked over
by the rich.
537
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:40,237
Always have, always will.
538
00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:42,823
Well, I guess by now you know
539
00:29:42,907 --> 00:29:46,327
that most of the people
that went to Vietnam in the infantry
540
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:49,830
were mostly
from the lower economic classes,
541
00:29:49,914 --> 00:29:52,541
and mostly draftees.
542
00:29:54,168 --> 00:29:57,171
Very few middle-class kids went,
or upper-class,
543
00:29:57,254 --> 00:29:59,131
because they were basically shielded
by a crazy set of laws
544
00:30:00,049 --> 00:30:02,969
that provided that if you went to college
or had a psychiatric deferment,
545
00:30:03,052 --> 00:30:04,595
you could get out of the war.
546
00:30:04,679 --> 00:30:06,514
So as a result,
547
00:30:06,597 --> 00:30:10,267
it never really became a democratic war
in that sense.
548
00:30:10,351 --> 00:30:12,353
It was more of a class war.
549
00:30:12,436 --> 00:30:15,898
And the pressure to end it did not come
550
00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:19,443
from the parents of those
middle-class people who could have gone.
551
00:30:19,527 --> 00:30:23,155
Because if they had gone
and started to die in any great number,
552
00:30:23,239 --> 00:30:26,033
I believe that their parents
would have ended that war much faster.
553
00:30:26,117 --> 00:30:28,577
This man here is Chris.
He been resurrected.
554
00:30:30,538 --> 00:30:33,499
So, in the First Cavalry,
much later in my tour, actually,
555
00:30:33,582 --> 00:30:37,837
I got a chance to...
Through King and some black friends,
556
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,839
I got into the hooches down below.
557
00:30:39,922 --> 00:30:41,882
So they had these crazy bunkers
up in the First Cavalry
558
00:30:41,966 --> 00:30:44,176
where guys would really design them.
559
00:30:44,719 --> 00:30:47,430
And lights and neon,
sort of underground nightclubs,
560
00:30:47,513 --> 00:30:50,933
and we'd smoke great dope,
great Vietnamese dope.
561
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,979
Pipes and all kinds of ways. Very inventive.
562
00:30:55,604 --> 00:30:59,358
And this was a relaxant
and a great stimulant
563
00:30:59,442 --> 00:31:03,320
and an alternative lifestyle
to a very dull and...
564
00:31:04,071 --> 00:31:08,617
And angry day style, you know,
where a lot of people were drinking
565
00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:11,037
and partying.
566
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,955
But here we had a chance
567
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:17,460
to bond with other people
and to talk about dreams
568
00:31:18,627 --> 00:31:21,589
and keep sane, in a way.
Keep sane, keep human.
569
00:31:21,672 --> 00:31:23,257
It was important to keep human there,
570
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:26,135
โcause the place would deaden you
after a while.
571
00:31:27,136 --> 00:31:29,680
And I'm very grateful
572
00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:33,225
to these soldiers.
They introduced me to music.
573
00:31:33,309 --> 00:31:37,855
That's where I started to hear
a lot of black jazz, a lot of Motown.
574
00:31:37,938 --> 00:31:40,941
And The Doors, Jefferson Airplane.
575
00:31:41,025 --> 00:31:43,152
I discovered Jim Morrison there,
576
00:31:43,527 --> 00:31:45,863
in that underground bunker.
577
00:31:46,489 --> 00:31:50,826
It was the late '60s, and acid was popular
in the States, and marijuana.
578
00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:54,914
And people were starting to think
in different terms.
579
00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:59,043
These soldiers, I would say,
were not politicized in any sense.
580
00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:01,420
They knew the war sucked.
They had that feeling already.
581
00:32:01,504 --> 00:32:03,839
And, you know,
Muhammad Ali characterized it.
582
00:32:04,006 --> 00:32:07,134
"I ain't got no dispute with the gooks."
He said something like that.
583
00:32:07,218 --> 00:32:10,262
With the Vietcong.
"I ain't got no dispute with the Vietcong."
584
00:32:10,721 --> 00:32:13,682
And he went to jail for it.
585
00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:17,103
And these guys all knew the score.
586
00:32:18,854 --> 00:32:18,896
They knew that the war
was a lot of bogus political maneuvering.
587
00:32:18,896 --> 00:32:20,981
They knew that the war
was a lot of bogus political maneuvering.
588
00:32:21,732 --> 00:32:22,942
And...
589
00:32:23,651 --> 00:32:26,195
But went along with it
and just tried to survive it
590
00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:29,907
with dope, good dope,
and good friends and talk of home.
591
00:32:30,241 --> 00:32:33,285
Guys here in the hooch didn't party so hard
down with us.
592
00:32:33,369 --> 00:32:36,747
They didn't like us down there.
There was sort of a civil war in the platoon.
593
00:32:38,207 --> 00:32:41,210
All them chucks be rapping
about how they losing they ho...
594
00:32:42,378 --> 00:32:45,798
But a lot of these guys
were into boozing and country music,
595
00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:48,801
both of which I kind of liked, too,
596
00:32:49,176 --> 00:32:51,428
but I found that this group
was a little tougher
597
00:32:51,512 --> 00:32:55,474
and did not approve of marijuana.
598
00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:57,434
That's right, dude.
599
00:32:57,893 --> 00:33:01,147
And thought anybody who did smoke it
was really...
600
00:33:01,230 --> 00:33:04,817
Had his mind to the winds
and would be untrustworthy.
601
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:08,529
So there was some alienation there
in each platoon that I was in.
602
00:33:08,612 --> 00:33:10,906
I was in four different units
and I saw it everywhere.
603
00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,951
...everything kind of gets weird.
You know what I mean?
604
00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:16,954
You hear that story about the gooks
putting chemicals in the grass,
605
00:33:17,037 --> 00:33:19,665
so we don't fight, so we become pacifists?
606
00:33:19,748 --> 00:33:23,169
Hey, but don't you worry, Bunny,
โcause you's a killer anyway, man.
607
00:33:23,252 --> 00:33:25,754
Yeah, but I still like a piece of pussy
once in a while.
608
00:33:25,838 --> 00:33:29,091
Ain't nothing like a piece of pussy
except maybe the Indy 500.
609
00:33:29,175 --> 00:33:32,261
Only way you get some pussy, man,
is a bitch dies and wills it to you,
610
00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:34,138
and then, maybe.
611
00:33:38,934 --> 00:33:40,519
How's it going, Bunny?
612
00:33:40,811 --> 00:33:42,855
I think we had a lieutenant like this.
Nice guy.
613
00:33:42,938 --> 00:33:44,857
But out of his depth here.
614
00:33:46,192 --> 00:33:51,155
He was a, you know, all-star boy, nice guy.
He was killed.
615
00:33:53,157 --> 00:33:56,702
Tried to be friends. Can't be friends
sometimes when there are people...
616
00:33:56,785 --> 00:34:00,039
Lot of Confederate flags around.
Lot of good old boys.
617
00:34:00,789 --> 00:34:03,542
Good soldiers, too.
Good poker players, too.
618
00:34:06,295 --> 00:34:09,465
There was guys like Rodriguez.
Very quiet Spanish guy.
619
00:34:10,049 --> 00:34:11,175
Just write home a lot.
620
00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:12,676
-You need anything?
-No, sir.
621
00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:16,138
Keep to himself and stay close to Jesus.
622
00:34:17,723 --> 00:34:19,975
Poker was very popular. Lot of money.
623
00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,311
Lot of drinking.
624
00:34:22,853 --> 00:34:25,564
-Hey, what do you say there, L.T.?
-How you doing there, Red?
625
00:34:25,648 --> 00:34:26,607
Not good. Not good.
626
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:29,276
This cocksucker's got every card
in the deck.
627
00:34:29,443 --> 00:34:30,611
Sgt. O'Neill.
628
00:34:30,694 --> 00:34:35,241
Now, there was a sergeant, a type like that,
that really gave me a hard time.
629
00:34:35,658 --> 00:34:38,911
He was always assigning me
to the shit duty,
630
00:34:38,994 --> 00:34:41,413
and he was always, like, coasting.
He never went out to the field.
631
00:34:41,497 --> 00:34:45,376
He'd go out to the field as little as possible.
He would always, like, stay in.
632
00:34:46,794 --> 00:34:48,212
Why's that, Lieutenant?
633
00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:51,507
Barnes and Lieutenant are having a bit of a,
634
00:34:52,508 --> 00:34:55,344
you know, territory struggle
for the platoon here.
635
00:34:56,512 --> 00:34:57,554
I gotta run.
636
00:34:57,638 --> 00:34:59,431
The lieutenants are nominally in charge,
637
00:34:59,515 --> 00:35:03,310
but often the platoon sergeant
ran the platoon
638
00:35:04,812 --> 00:35:06,313
because he was more experienced.
639
00:35:06,397 --> 00:35:10,401
In this case, Barnes was based on a guy
I knew, I won't say who, from Montana,
640
00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:14,822
who was in one of my units,
and I carried his radio.
641
00:35:14,905 --> 00:35:16,115
He had actually been shot.
642
00:35:16,198 --> 00:35:17,199
Yes or no?
643
00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:21,662
I have to tell you,
that's precisely what I saw.
644
00:35:21,745 --> 00:35:24,915
I mean, sometimes I just look at a guy,
and I know.
645
00:35:24,999 --> 00:35:26,667
This fella's not gonna make it.
646
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:28,377
Just no fucking way.
647
00:35:29,712 --> 00:35:31,755
-Yeah!
-I'm going now.
648
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:34,508
It's almost as if Barnes knows
O'Neill might not make it.
649
00:35:34,591 --> 00:35:37,303
But Barnes had been shot
in the head, right?
650
00:35:37,386 --> 00:35:39,805
An amazing, miraculous recovery.
651
00:35:40,389 --> 00:35:43,267
And went to Japan for seven months,
reconstructed his face,
652
00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:46,353
married a Japanese girl
and came back to the Nam.
653
00:35:46,437 --> 00:35:48,147
Been wounded six, seven times,
something like that.
654
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:51,233
And he volunteered again.
He wanted to get out there Killing.
655
00:35:52,151 --> 00:35:55,529
Tracks Of My Tears,
one of my favorite songs I found over there.
656
00:35:56,030 --> 00:35:57,239
And...
657
00:35:58,407 --> 00:36:01,827
Smokey just died, too. It was sad.
658
00:36:02,536 --> 00:36:05,247
But this was a great song.
Just moved my heart.
659
00:36:05,956 --> 00:36:08,000
And I remember dancing.
Guys would be dancing.
660
00:36:08,083 --> 00:36:11,754
We danced with each other, you know?
It was a way to release this tension.
661
00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:16,633
And it was a good thing.
662
00:36:16,717 --> 00:36:19,887
It was a good thing, to party like this.
Kept us sane.
663
00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:21,972
And some of the guys
would get out in the field...
664
00:36:22,056 --> 00:36:25,184
You know, we'd go nuts sometimes
and wanna Kill the Vietnamese villagers
665
00:36:25,267 --> 00:36:26,810
or people who got in our way.
666
00:36:26,894 --> 00:36:30,189
And I think doing things like this
kept us more balanced
667
00:36:30,773 --> 00:36:31,774
and kept us more human.
668
00:36:31,857 --> 00:36:34,735
We wouldn't go out and kill people
So quickly, you know,
669
00:36:34,818 --> 00:36:36,195
without respecting life a little more.
670
00:36:36,278 --> 00:36:39,782
โCause I think respect for life
is ingrained in that music.
671
00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:41,992
There's been a lot of movement
near the Cambodian border.
672
00:36:42,076 --> 00:36:43,744
Regiments of NVA moving across.
673
00:36:43,827 --> 00:36:45,287
And the sense of humor, too.
674
00:36:45,371 --> 00:36:46,955
...firefights, ambushes.
675
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:48,332
We drop a lot of bombs,
676
00:36:48,415 --> 00:36:52,127
then we walk through the jungle
like ghosts in a landscape.
677
00:36:57,174 --> 00:36:58,592
We went through jungle like this a lot.
678
00:36:58,675 --> 00:37:02,888
This is based on
a lot of the search-and-destroy missions
679
00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:05,891
that we did.
And then you'd walk up in the jungle...
680
00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:08,352
I was getting better on point.
You can see it there.
681
00:37:08,435 --> 00:37:10,229
But you'd walk right up
on something like this,
682
00:37:10,312 --> 00:37:12,731
and you wouldn't see it,
and it'd be right there in front of you.
683
00:37:12,815 --> 00:37:14,566
Right in front of you, a bunker.
684
00:37:14,650 --> 00:37:15,734
Where?
685
00:37:15,818 --> 00:37:17,319
You wouldn't see it.
686
00:37:18,112 --> 00:37:20,155
Could be six feet in front of you.
687
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,742
Could be an NVA soldier looking at you,
you wouldn't know it.
688
00:37:23,826 --> 00:37:26,286
So it's hard to see in jungle.
689
00:37:27,830 --> 00:37:31,125
So you have to trust your senses.
It's all visceral.
690
00:37:31,208 --> 00:37:35,587
It doesn't... You know, it's not a place
for cerebral thinking.
691
00:37:35,671 --> 00:37:37,339
It's not a place for cerebrics.
692
00:37:37,423 --> 00:37:40,592
It's a place for radar.
693
00:37:40,676 --> 00:37:43,262
You need radar, you need instinct,
694
00:37:44,513 --> 00:37:47,099
and, you know, I think that there
are natural-born warriors, to be honest,
695
00:37:47,182 --> 00:37:49,685
and I think some people
Just do the best they can.
696
00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:52,104
Some people are dead
the moment they put on a uniform.
697
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:53,939
Don't make any difference.
698
00:37:55,983 --> 00:37:57,401
This is an NVA base camp.
699
00:37:57,484 --> 00:38:01,363
But you see how clever it is.
The production design was wonderful,
700
00:38:01,864 --> 00:38:03,407
by Bruno Rubeo.
701
00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:06,452
But it just folded into the landscape.
702
00:38:06,535 --> 00:38:09,955
There's an entire little village here
that you can barely see.
703
00:38:10,038 --> 00:38:11,748
Everything's tucked away.
704
00:38:12,791 --> 00:38:14,293
And the soldiers move warily,
705
00:38:14,376 --> 00:38:17,212
because we know
there'll be booby traps around here.
706
00:38:17,379 --> 00:38:21,049
And they were just here.
You can see the smoke. And they just split.
707
00:38:21,133 --> 00:38:24,386
We missed them by maybe a minute.
708
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,140
But they might still be around.
709
00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:30,142
Bravo Six, Bravo Six, Bravo Two.
710
00:38:30,225 --> 00:38:32,811
Be advised.
There is a bunker complex up front.
711
00:38:32,895 --> 00:38:35,314
Turning right on our way down. Over.
712
00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:39,234
See you next week.
713
00:38:42,821 --> 00:38:47,075
Dafoe, character of Elias,
is also a tunnel rat.
714
00:38:47,201 --> 00:38:49,286
I throw in a little bit of tunnel lore here.
715
00:38:49,369 --> 00:38:52,331
I mean,
often the units would come out from the...
716
00:38:52,414 --> 00:38:54,166
Other units would come out
and do the tunnel work,
717
00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:57,544
but I took the liberty of getting right into it
and showing...
718
00:38:57,794 --> 00:39:00,380
Elias was not really a tunnel rat, but...
719
00:39:00,464 --> 00:39:02,174
Usually the tunnel rats
were very small guys
720
00:39:02,257 --> 00:39:04,051
who would squeeze down in through there.
721
00:39:04,134 --> 00:39:08,597
We built a tunnel complex
close to the jungle, which we shot in.
722
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,224
We had to. We...
723
00:39:10,307 --> 00:39:13,810
We lost a Filipino crew member,
unfortunately, early on.
724
00:39:14,436 --> 00:39:17,397
Trying to build a tunnel and it caved on us,
725
00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:19,775
and he was killed.
726
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:21,860
And I was not in the Philippines
at that time,
727
00:39:21,944 --> 00:39:24,196
but Bruno went to the...
728
00:39:24,279 --> 00:39:28,784
There was offerings had to be made
to the village and to the spirits for his soul.
729
00:39:28,951 --> 00:39:31,954
And the film was tough to shoot.
730
00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:34,373
There were snakebites a couple of times
731
00:39:34,456 --> 00:39:37,751
and there was a lot of, what do you call,
732
00:39:37,834 --> 00:39:39,920
fatigue and flu
733
00:39:40,504 --> 00:39:43,090
and colds and giving in to the...
734
00:39:43,173 --> 00:39:44,967
Giving in to the...
735
00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:48,011
To the roughness of the temperature.
736
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:50,556
On day 42, I remember standing out there.
737
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,475
I was one of the few left from the first crew
that was out there still.
738
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,812
We had a very bad day.
A lot of people didn't show up that night.
739
00:39:56,979 --> 00:40:01,149
So I think we were calling in,
like, 70% sick on some days.
740
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:04,361
It was just... I was...
Basically, people were fatigued.
741
00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:07,823
It wasn't game-playing. It was just fatigue.
742
00:40:09,449 --> 00:40:11,076
This is a guy named John Glover
from Boston.
743
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:14,079
This is Richard Edson, who went on
to do some Jim Jarmusch pictures.
744
00:40:14,162 --> 00:40:16,748
And he was also in the band
The Lounge Lizards.
745
00:40:22,004 --> 00:40:24,423
Cross-cutting here, I think, was effective
746
00:40:24,506 --> 00:40:26,675
to show the search build.
747
00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:29,386
Something's gonna happen, but what?
You don't know.
748
00:40:29,469 --> 00:40:31,263
And where, which incident?
749
00:40:32,514 --> 00:40:35,434
Elias has stumbled
onto an underground tunnel here.
750
00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:36,977
He's putting the flash on his face,
751
00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:38,645
so you'll see him
as he makes the corner here.
752
00:40:38,729 --> 00:40:41,440
Otherwise you would have been lost
in the dark.
753
00:40:41,523 --> 00:40:45,485
He comes across
one of the wounded or dying. A dead NVA.
754
00:40:47,821 --> 00:40:49,948
Charlie's on flank. He's guarding.
755
00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:52,367
And this happened to me, too.
756
00:40:52,868 --> 00:40:55,495
I think I was on flank in the rubber forest
757
00:40:56,163 --> 00:41:01,209
and this huge, not huge,
but medium-sized crate snake, viper,
758
00:41:01,752 --> 00:41:04,338
went right through my legs
and stared at me.
759
00:41:04,546 --> 00:41:06,590
Made me... Took the wind out of me.
760
00:41:07,049 --> 00:41:10,594
The other flank... That's Manny out there.
He's on the other flank.
761
00:41:11,178 --> 00:41:13,180
Elias has spotted something,
feels something,
762
00:41:13,263 --> 00:41:15,557
So he's working his way up the tunnel.
763
00:41:17,351 --> 00:41:20,479
This is a tough scene to shoot.
Watch the timing.
764
00:41:30,322 --> 00:41:31,907
Watch it. Watch it!
765
00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:37,871
Maps. We had a lot of maps.
766
00:41:38,413 --> 00:41:42,417
We dug up so much information
about them in these bunkers.
767
00:41:42,959 --> 00:41:45,712
And then we'd send it back to,
you know, intel,
768
00:41:45,796 --> 00:41:48,507
and they'd never do anything with it.
It didn't seem to add up.
769
00:41:48,590 --> 00:41:52,135
We never got feedback, which is another
demoralizing thing in the infantry.
770
00:41:52,219 --> 00:41:54,763
You wanna know... You know,
you make your objective, you keep it.
771
00:41:54,846 --> 00:41:59,184
They'd ship us out after we took a place,
and then send us back 10 days later.
772
00:42:01,019 --> 00:42:03,897
To take the same place,
we'd lose more lives, so...
773
00:42:04,272 --> 00:42:06,108
Booby trap! Get down!
774
00:42:06,692 --> 00:42:10,237
So he triggered a booby trap there.
You saw that one.
775
00:42:11,571 --> 00:42:12,572
Medic!
776
00:42:12,656 --> 00:42:14,700
That's Georges Delerue music.
777
00:42:14,783 --> 00:42:16,993
We kind of went
with a Japanese style, there.
778
00:42:17,077 --> 00:42:18,453
Oriental style.
779
00:42:21,498 --> 00:42:24,543
That's a little dramatic license,
780
00:42:24,626 --> 00:42:28,171
but he did manage to stumble out,
781
00:42:28,463 --> 00:42:30,048
and it's a pretty horrifying sight.
782
00:42:30,132 --> 00:42:32,634
He comes back from flank.
Something's happened.
783
00:42:32,718 --> 00:42:34,094
God damn it.
784
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:38,932
We got...
785
00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:41,935
You see a lot of dirty smoke.
786
00:42:42,018 --> 00:42:45,272
The uniforms are really stonewashed.
I mean, they're dirty.
787
00:42:45,355 --> 00:42:46,690
The towels, the sweat.
788
00:42:46,773 --> 00:42:50,235
I mean, I think this attention to details
is very good.
789
00:42:50,318 --> 00:42:54,072
Important. Some guys are strapped,
sometimes they're bare-chested.
790
00:42:54,156 --> 00:42:57,659
I mean, there's a variety of individual styles
in the soldier,
791
00:42:58,869 --> 00:43:01,204
and each one, the more you look at it,
792
00:43:01,288 --> 00:43:03,290
I think a veteran could spot
some of this stuff,
793
00:43:03,373 --> 00:43:05,375
but each uniform represents...
794
00:43:05,459 --> 00:43:07,127
Is a statement, really,
of the way the person's attitude is.
795
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:11,798
And even the graffiti,
796
00:43:11,882 --> 00:43:13,675
the choice of the graffiti on the helmets
iS important.
797
00:43:13,759 --> 00:43:16,678
So we had to individualize
as much as possible.
798
00:43:22,517 --> 00:43:25,353
Barnes is loved by his men
because he cares for them.
799
00:43:25,437 --> 00:43:28,690
He has a military affection
for the hierarchy.
800
00:43:29,024 --> 00:43:33,612
And it's clear
that he's emotionally involved
801
00:43:33,695 --> 00:43:35,655
with the men who die.
802
00:43:36,072 --> 00:43:37,449
Hey, where's Manny?
803
00:43:37,532 --> 00:43:41,870
If anything, I would say that his moods
veer more towards death than life.
804
00:43:42,871 --> 00:43:44,706
-Hey, Manny!
-Manny!
805
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:49,377
So, this NVA bunker sequence
took maybe three days to shoot.
806
00:43:49,961 --> 00:43:54,299
And I really like...
Study the camera movements,
807
00:43:54,841 --> 00:43:57,969
the choreography of cameras,
when you reveal people,
808
00:43:58,053 --> 00:44:00,347
and I thought it was very nicely done.
809
00:44:02,474 --> 00:44:04,267
Keep a sinuous,
810
00:44:04,851 --> 00:44:08,230
almost serpent-like quality to the moves,
811
00:44:08,563 --> 00:44:11,817
and reveals and pulling of racking the focus
812
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:15,904
and walking people in and out of frames.
Circling around.
813
00:44:16,446 --> 00:44:18,240
As you saw, Manny vanished.
814
00:44:18,323 --> 00:44:20,700
...some men to keep looking
and to wait for the engineers.
815
00:44:20,784 --> 00:44:22,410
Missing in action. There were a lot of...
816
00:44:22,494 --> 00:44:25,080
Not a lot, but there was a few MIAs,
you know,
817
00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:27,999
and that happens in war.
We don't know what happened.
818
00:44:28,083 --> 00:44:31,753
Manny was taken off the flank.
And here we reveal...
819
00:44:31,837 --> 00:44:33,505
It was the end of the mystery.
820
00:44:33,588 --> 00:44:35,465
...one of the more basic fears we all have,
821
00:44:35,549 --> 00:44:38,593
of being captured and cut up
and castrated alone.
822
00:44:40,262 --> 00:44:42,138
Indian country feeling.
823
00:44:47,853 --> 00:44:50,105
This works on the emotions of the men,
obviously.
824
00:44:50,188 --> 00:44:53,525
And you're gonna see the cause and effect,
as the Buddhists say.
825
00:44:53,608 --> 00:44:57,320
You will see the results of this,
the effect of this, in the next scene,
826
00:44:57,946 --> 00:45:01,324
when they will take out their wrath
on the villagers.
827
00:45:05,245 --> 00:45:06,913
The motherfuckers.
828
00:45:09,875 --> 00:45:11,293
Spare movie.
829
00:45:11,376 --> 00:45:14,629
Love that sky.
Pink and dangerous, coming at you.
830
00:45:15,213 --> 00:45:18,258
I love framing these landscapes.
831
00:45:18,341 --> 00:45:21,845
Putting men into landscapes, into the far...
I love that always in movies.
832
00:45:21,928 --> 00:45:24,556
And it's fun
to have guys all the way back out there,
833
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:26,391
200, 300, 400 yards from camera.
834
00:45:26,474 --> 00:45:27,893
...our Captain Ahab.
835
00:45:27,976 --> 00:45:30,103
He would set things right again.
836
00:45:31,229 --> 00:45:33,815
Charlie's literarian quality.
That's the way I was.
837
00:45:33,899 --> 00:45:37,152
I mean, he wrote about people
like Captain Ahab, so...
838
00:45:38,194 --> 00:45:40,405
I love this shot. This is a toughie.
839
00:45:42,824 --> 00:45:45,076
Great hit on the back. Timing is good.
840
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,872
You saw it. You got a real realistic feel
of how a shot goes.
841
00:45:48,955 --> 00:45:51,625
Missed the first one. Probably got him
on the second or the third.
842
00:45:51,708 --> 00:45:54,210
And it took...
You saw the delay in hitting him.
843
00:45:54,294 --> 00:45:56,212
Timing-wise,
it's complicated to pull that off.
844
00:45:56,296 --> 00:45:59,591
You gotta pop the squib at the right time.
But it was...
845
00:45:59,674 --> 00:46:03,094
I had a terrific Filipino crew,
846
00:46:03,887 --> 00:46:07,223
assistant directors and stunt guys
847
00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:09,601
and special effects helpers
that were really terrific
848
00:46:09,684 --> 00:46:13,355
with Yves De Bono on special effects.
Yves De Bono was an Englishman.
849
00:46:13,438 --> 00:46:18,109
And he did everything, almost, first,
with his hands himself.
850
00:46:19,319 --> 00:46:21,696
But nobody got hurt
in the special effects crew.
851
00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:22,781
Move it!
852
00:46:22,864 --> 00:46:24,240
Come on! Let's go!
853
00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:27,077
Let's go, Junior. Bring them in.
854
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,370
We have some people down here.
855
00:46:28,453 --> 00:46:29,913
Now, here's our village.
856
00:46:29,996 --> 00:46:32,874
This one was a tough one,
because we had to build it.
857
00:46:32,958 --> 00:46:37,170
We stocked it with as many Vietnamese
as we could get with a limited budget.
858
00:46:37,671 --> 00:46:42,425
And we found some of these people
by total accident,
859
00:46:42,509 --> 00:46:45,428
were tourists in the Philippines,
from Vietnam,
860
00:46:45,512 --> 00:46:47,430
coming from South Carolina.
861
00:46:47,514 --> 00:46:49,599
And had some money,
they were a bit rich tourists,
862
00:46:49,683 --> 00:46:51,142
and they were traveling
through the Philippines.
863
00:46:51,226 --> 00:46:52,477
We spotted them and grabbed them,
864
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,146
and grabbed this woman,
put her in the movie.
865
00:46:55,230 --> 00:46:57,399
The first time she'd ever been in a movie.
866
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:03,279
She's actually an upper-class Vietnamese,
probably from Saigon,
867
00:47:03,738 --> 00:47:06,533
playing a peasant woman.
But her English was...
868
00:47:07,242 --> 00:47:09,369
She understood what I was saying.
869
00:47:10,912 --> 00:47:12,330
We pulled people out of bunkers
all the time.
870
00:47:12,414 --> 00:47:13,665
We blew the bunkers if they didn't get out.
871
00:47:13,748 --> 00:47:17,002
The others didn't get out.
This is a tough shot, actually.
872
00:47:22,298 --> 00:47:25,719
Vietnamese expressed their grief,
the way we remembered it in the villages,
873
00:47:25,802 --> 00:47:27,178
very phonetically, very strongly.
874
00:47:27,262 --> 00:47:31,057
They would seem almost like actors,
the way they would scream and yell.
875
00:47:31,141 --> 00:47:32,934
And it irritated us more,
876
00:47:33,226 --> 00:47:35,812
because we thought that they were fake.
877
00:47:35,895 --> 00:47:39,858
Faking it, by the accentuation
on screaming and crying.
878
00:47:39,983 --> 00:47:42,527
And as a result, we misunderstood.
879
00:47:43,236 --> 00:47:44,487
What about me, man?
880
00:47:44,571 --> 00:47:46,531
What about me?
I'm sick of this fucking shit.
881
00:47:46,614 --> 00:47:48,783
Come on, motherfucker, move!
882
00:47:49,284 --> 00:47:50,910
Watch this, fucker!
883
00:47:50,994 --> 00:47:52,203
Fuckers don't want us here, man.
884
00:47:52,287 --> 00:47:53,872
Who the fuck
do you think they're fighting for, huh?
885
00:47:53,955 --> 00:47:55,957
I like Kevin Dillon very much.
886
00:47:56,041 --> 00:47:58,960
He was the younger brother of Matt Dillon.
887
00:47:59,294 --> 00:48:04,132
Very strong Irish-American features,
and very...
888
00:48:05,175 --> 00:48:07,469
Had a coldness in him,
889
00:48:07,552 --> 00:48:10,805
a cruelty that was true to the...
890
00:48:11,890 --> 00:48:13,475
In a sense, the...
891
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,060
There was nothing more dangerous
in Vietnam
892
00:48:15,143 --> 00:48:17,562
than a 19-year-old American
with a shotgun.
893
00:48:18,063 --> 00:48:21,649
He exemplified that.
Did a wonderful job, performance.
894
00:48:21,941 --> 00:48:24,861
Sergeant Warren,
you bring that honcho over here.
895
00:48:25,153 --> 00:48:27,238
Now, here you see
the essence of the problem
896
00:48:27,322 --> 00:48:29,908
in any village that we did find,
897
00:48:29,991 --> 00:48:33,036
many links to the North Vietnamese Army.
898
00:48:33,244 --> 00:48:37,332
The villagers were sympathetic to them,
and we didn't like them for that.
899
00:48:37,749 --> 00:48:40,001
Some people would argue
that they didn't have any choice,
900
00:48:40,085 --> 00:48:43,546
they had to store the weapons
and help the North Vietnamese.
901
00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:46,341
But the fact is that
they were sympathetic to them
902
00:48:46,424 --> 00:48:50,345
because the North Vietnamese
were fighting for their independence,
903
00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:53,431
whereas we were perceived by them
as invaders.
904
00:48:53,515 --> 00:48:55,475
You want something to smile at,
motherfucker?
905
00:48:55,558 --> 00:48:58,019
I went nuts one day
against one of these poor guys.
906
00:48:58,103 --> 00:49:01,606
An older man, who I shot at his feet,
907
00:49:01,689 --> 00:49:04,025
because he would not listen to what I said.
908
00:49:04,109 --> 00:49:05,777
I almost killed him in the bunker
909
00:49:05,860 --> 00:49:08,530
and he wouldn't come out of the bunker,
and I went crazy on him.
910
00:49:08,613 --> 00:49:12,033
โCause I just had enough
that particular day.
911
00:49:12,784 --> 00:49:16,871
So, we're all in touch with our anger
at some point there. That's for sure.
912
00:49:17,372 --> 00:49:18,540
And...
913
00:49:19,707 --> 00:49:24,003
I didn't kill him, but came mighty close.
I'm glad I never did.
914
00:49:25,380 --> 00:49:27,090
Whereas my friend Bunny...
915
00:49:27,173 --> 00:49:30,385
I didn't see this. This is a dramatization.
916
00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:33,388
But I know that he clubbed somebody
fo death.
917
00:49:33,471 --> 00:49:35,306
You're real sorry, ain't you?
918
00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:39,978
You're just crying your little hearts out
about Sandy and Sal and Manny.
919
00:49:40,061 --> 00:49:42,856
Forget about it, Bunny, huh? Let's go.
920
00:49:43,523 --> 00:49:45,108
What do you say?
921
00:49:49,279 --> 00:49:50,905
This is a retard.
922
00:49:51,865 --> 00:49:53,366
I wouldn't bring that up...
923
00:50:02,250 --> 00:50:06,129
And Bunny...
We killed villagers at random everywhere.
924
00:50:06,546 --> 00:50:09,841
I mean, it wasn't, like, something we did
as a policy by any means,
925
00:50:09,924 --> 00:50:12,385
but it was, like, done in a way that...
926
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,514
You'd be walking in a village,
and if you called to somebody
927
00:50:16,598 --> 00:50:19,767
and he didn't come when you told him to,
you'd shoot him.
928
00:50:20,101 --> 00:50:21,603
Had the right to.
929
00:50:23,479 --> 00:50:25,064
It depended on the mood.
930
00:50:25,148 --> 00:50:27,442
I mean,
sometimes we were very friendly to them
931
00:50:27,525 --> 00:50:30,945
and we would give them food
932
00:50:31,029 --> 00:50:32,572
and make jokes with them, or...
933
00:50:34,282 --> 00:50:37,452
Look at the scars on this gook honcho,
Sarge.
934
00:50:37,827 --> 00:50:39,537
That's Johnny Depp in the middle.
935
00:50:39,621 --> 00:50:41,206
It was one of his first roles.
936
00:50:41,289 --> 00:50:44,000
I thought he was
a splendid-looking young guy.
937
00:50:45,168 --> 00:50:47,212
He obviously...
938
00:50:47,295 --> 00:50:50,381
I felt like he would become a star one day.
939
00:50:50,465 --> 00:50:52,550
And it was fun to work with him.
940
00:50:52,634 --> 00:50:55,220
He was very obliging.
941
00:50:55,303 --> 00:50:58,723
He learned some Vietnamese
for this translator role.
942
00:50:59,849 --> 00:51:00,892
And...
943
00:51:02,977 --> 00:51:05,980
This scene, in a sense,
brings the whole focus
944
00:51:06,064 --> 00:51:08,066
of the platoon together.
945
00:51:08,149 --> 00:51:11,152
I mean, everyone runs up
fo see what's going on,
946
00:51:11,444 --> 00:51:15,990
and we sense that there's some kind of
moral showdown about to happen here.
947
00:51:16,658 --> 00:51:19,661
Who the hell was the gook
we nailed on the riverbank?
948
00:51:26,626 --> 00:51:29,879
He doesn't know. He says that the NVA
ain't been around in a couple of months.
949
00:51:29,963 --> 00:51:31,881
Look, maybe he was a scout or something,
Sarge.
950
00:51:31,965 --> 00:51:33,591
Yeah, sure, a scout.
951
00:51:33,675 --> 00:51:37,053
What about the fucking rice
and the weapons? Who are they for?
952
00:51:39,681 --> 00:51:42,433
That cocksucker knows what I'm saying!
He understands. Don't you, pop?
953
00:51:42,517 --> 00:51:44,477
-Goddamn right he does.
-You bet.
954
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,729
Damn it! He's lying through his teeth.
Come on!
955
00:51:46,813 --> 00:51:49,524
That little guy's a rodeo rider from Texas.
956
00:51:50,275 --> 00:51:54,028
That's Ivan Kane from the Bronx,
the fellow with the heavy beard.
957
00:51:56,656 --> 00:51:57,865
He swears he doesn't know anything.
958
00:51:57,949 --> 00:51:59,659
He hates the NVA,
but they come when they want,
959
00:51:59,742 --> 00:52:02,078
-and they just take the...
-What's the bitch saying?
960
00:52:02,161 --> 00:52:03,746
This is the essence of the problem,
961
00:52:03,830 --> 00:52:06,916
is that the villagers all supported the NVA,
and we were going nuts
962
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,169
โcause we never could get the hearts
and minds of the villagers.
963
00:52:10,253 --> 00:52:11,504
We had basically...
964
00:52:11,587 --> 00:52:14,173
We'd moved a lot of them off the land
into hamlets,
965
00:52:14,257 --> 00:52:16,592
Strategic hamlets,
and those that were left on the land
966
00:52:16,676 --> 00:52:20,430
were so brutalized by the bombings
and the defoliants
967
00:52:21,431 --> 00:52:25,059
that by the time we got there,
they were terrified of us anyway.
968
00:52:28,521 --> 00:52:29,981
I like the delay on that shot.
969
00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:32,692
You know, that she takes that second
to be stunned.
970
00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:37,196
And he just
couldn't stand her voice anymore.
971
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,658
She was driving him nuts,
and he decided to get to the point,
972
00:52:40,742 --> 00:52:43,328
which is basically to terrify these people.
973
00:52:44,287 --> 00:52:47,832
But what he does
is he really pisses the village chief off.
974
00:52:47,915 --> 00:52:50,001
You're gonna see
the guy is very, very resilient.
975
00:52:50,084 --> 00:52:51,753
Tell him, Lerner!
976
00:52:53,504 --> 00:52:55,340
He intends to kill more.
977
00:52:55,715 --> 00:52:58,968
Barnes has lost it,
partly because of the Manny killing.
978
00:52:59,427 --> 00:53:02,347
And this is turning into a small version
of My Lai,
979
00:53:02,430 --> 00:53:05,975
the My Lai Massacre,
the famous massacre of 1968,
980
00:53:08,269 --> 00:53:11,481
the point being that these type of things
could happen very easily
981
00:53:11,564 --> 00:53:14,359
in that heat and intensity.
982
00:53:14,442 --> 00:53:18,613
100 degrees of sun, or 95 degrees,
and people get nuts.
983
00:53:19,489 --> 00:53:22,200
You know, he gets nuts.
Your pride, your territory gets at stake.
984
00:53:22,283 --> 00:53:25,370
You wanna show how tough you are
and how serious you are.
985
00:53:25,453 --> 00:53:26,996
And the next thing you know,
you're Killing people.
986
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,248
It's easy to cross that line.
987
00:53:29,332 --> 00:53:31,125
And here's Charlie.
He doesn't want to do it.
988
00:53:31,209 --> 00:53:32,794
He wants to stop it,
but he doesn't have the guts
989
00:53:32,877 --> 00:53:35,713
to go up against his sergeant.
Very few people would.
990
00:53:35,797 --> 00:53:37,131
He's warning.
991
00:53:41,427 --> 00:53:43,262
But he won't give in either.
992
00:53:44,013 --> 00:53:45,264
Barnes!
993
00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:49,268
So,
994
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,356
seemed like a good spot
to have Elias get us out of this hole
995
00:53:53,439 --> 00:53:54,857
before we get into another My Lai.
996
00:53:54,941 --> 00:53:56,567
What the fuck do you think you're doing?
997
00:54:00,154 --> 00:54:03,199
Stay out of this, Elias.
This ain't your show.
998
00:54:03,282 --> 00:54:06,244
You ain't a firing squad, you piece of shit.
999
00:54:06,327 --> 00:54:08,287
-Get him!
-Get up, Barnes!
1000
00:54:09,163 --> 00:54:10,998
Elias! No, no, no!
1001
00:54:11,541 --> 00:54:13,209
Chief! Chief, tear his fucking head off!
1002
00:54:13,292 --> 00:54:14,377
The fight in the dust.
1003
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:16,421
I always wanted to do something like that,
you know?
1004
00:54:16,504 --> 00:54:20,758
John Wayne, Montgomery Clift, Red River.
Guys rolling in the dust. This was...
1005
00:54:20,842 --> 00:54:23,761
I love this shot.
These graphics with these...
1006
00:54:23,845 --> 00:54:26,806
The two sides of the platoon
are leaning in from both directions.
1007
00:54:26,889 --> 00:54:30,393
You sense, sort of, like,
almost a Homeric battle here
1008
00:54:30,476 --> 00:54:32,562
between two giants, Titans.
1009
00:54:32,728 --> 00:54:34,147
The men separating them.
1010
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:35,940
Lookit there, you see...
1011
00:54:36,399 --> 00:54:39,610
He comes back at him. But no.
I love this, "Break it up.โ
1012
00:54:39,694 --> 00:54:41,237
Come on, Elias, chill!
1013
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,447
Look at the dust.
1014
00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:43,573
Look at this face here.
1015
00:54:43,656 --> 00:54:46,534
He looks like a silent film star
with those eyes.
1016
00:54:47,326 --> 00:54:50,371
Lights flaring off Elias. He's gone nuts, too.
1017
00:54:51,539 --> 00:54:53,166
Break it up! Shut up!
1018
00:54:53,249 --> 00:54:55,376
And now the Lieutenant emerges
as a force here.
1019
00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:58,629
At least he shows some determination.
1020
00:54:58,713 --> 00:54:59,964
You hear that?
1021
00:55:00,047 --> 00:55:01,757
Torch this place!
1022
00:55:01,966 --> 00:55:05,136
Blow the weapons in place! Round up
all suspected VC and shake it up!
1023
00:55:05,219 --> 00:55:09,265
Well, the village is
a legitimate NVA supply point, it seems.
1024
00:55:09,474 --> 00:55:11,142
...why the fuck didn't you do something?
1025
00:55:11,225 --> 00:55:13,144
What are you talking about?
1026
00:55:13,227 --> 00:55:15,771
You know what the fuck I'm talking about!
1027
00:55:15,855 --> 00:55:19,942
No, I don't. I don't know what the fuck
you're talking about, Elias.
1028
00:55:23,488 --> 00:55:26,199
That's a good shot here.
Barnes is obviously...
1029
00:55:26,741 --> 00:55:28,910
You know, this is a very strong...
1030
00:55:30,745 --> 00:55:34,916
It's an interesting legal point, you know.
If there had been a court-martial,
1031
00:55:35,791 --> 00:55:37,293
what would have happened?
1032
00:55:37,376 --> 00:55:39,795
There was so many of these incidents
that they were all buried.
1033
00:55:39,879 --> 00:55:41,506
Most of them were buried.
1034
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:44,634
The occasional unlucky fellow
would get busted for killing a Vietnamese
1035
00:55:44,717 --> 00:55:46,385
and would go to jail,
1036
00:55:47,261 --> 00:55:49,347
but he would probably be
in the unlucky 5% or 2%.
1037
00:55:54,352 --> 00:55:58,272
On the other hand, it was a village
with known enemy sympathizers
1038
00:55:58,356 --> 00:56:00,066
and the orders were to torch it,
1039
00:56:00,149 --> 00:56:03,277
So you would get into this gray area,
this dilemma of
1040
00:56:03,778 --> 00:56:06,197
"Were the villagers
or are the villagers NVA,
1041
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,407
โNorth Vietnamese sympathizers,
1042
00:56:08,699 --> 00:56:10,493
โallies, or are they not?"
1043
00:56:11,661 --> 00:56:14,080
Here they're putting
a white phosphorus grenade
1044
00:56:14,163 --> 00:56:16,541
in the rice storage bin.
1045
00:56:16,874 --> 00:56:19,835
That was one of the effective ways
to destroy the rice.
1046
00:56:19,919 --> 00:56:22,713
There's acid and fire in that grenade.
1047
00:56:22,797 --> 00:56:25,716
Here, they're grenading the well,
1048
00:56:26,217 --> 00:56:28,177
blowing out the water supply.
1049
00:56:30,972 --> 00:56:33,641
Here we are, herding the villagers.
1050
00:56:37,645 --> 00:56:40,690
This scene had a lot of impact on people.
1051
00:56:41,148 --> 00:56:42,858
People told me about it.
1052
00:56:43,776 --> 00:56:44,944
Especially...
1053
00:56:46,028 --> 00:56:47,572
The Barber comes in.
1054
00:56:48,072 --> 00:56:49,991
Here... I was in this situation.
1055
00:56:50,074 --> 00:56:52,618
It was another day, but I... Some of my...
1056
00:56:52,702 --> 00:56:55,997
I saved a girl once from being raped,
and killed, probably.
1057
00:56:57,248 --> 00:57:00,710
I thought this was a good time for Charlie
to show some colors.
1058
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,135
Hey, come on.
1059
00:57:09,218 --> 00:57:12,179
Fucker. You fucker, get out of here!
1060
00:57:12,263 --> 00:57:13,431
Get the fuck off!
1061
00:57:13,514 --> 00:57:15,766
Don't do it! Don't do it!
1062
00:57:16,183 --> 00:57:18,811
You fucker! What is this, huh?
1063
00:57:23,566 --> 00:57:25,151
What are you, a homosexual, Taylor?
1064
00:57:25,234 --> 00:57:27,778
What the fuck is your problem, Taylor?
She's a fucking dink.
1065
00:57:27,862 --> 00:57:30,489
She's a fucking human being, man!
1066
00:57:30,698 --> 00:57:33,784
-Fuck you!
-Go fuck a cherry, Taylor.
1067
00:57:34,368 --> 00:57:38,122
Fucking animal!
All of you, you're fucking animals!
1068
00:57:38,205 --> 00:57:39,874
Fucking lame fuck!
1069
00:57:40,458 --> 00:57:43,044
You don't belong in the Nam, man.
This ain't your place at all.
1070
00:57:43,127 --> 00:57:45,755
You don't fucking get it, do you, man?
1071
00:57:46,797 --> 00:57:49,050
You just don't fucking get it.
1072
00:57:49,717 --> 00:57:51,135
That's the way it was.
1073
00:57:51,218 --> 00:57:54,472
Yeah, they didn't talk too much about it,
but they just didn't get it.
1074
00:57:54,889 --> 00:57:56,599
Some guys did and some guys didn't.
1075
00:57:57,141 --> 00:58:00,728
But Elias sees Chris behaving like this.
I think that's important.
1076
00:58:00,936 --> 00:58:04,357
Come on, guys. Police up your dicks
and let's get out of here.
1077
00:58:07,568 --> 00:58:10,154
So I said this scene
had some impact, right?
1078
00:58:14,241 --> 00:58:16,160
He's taking pictures.
A lot of us had cameras.
1079
00:58:16,243 --> 00:58:18,788
Guys were burning their village,
killing them,
1080
00:58:18,871 --> 00:58:20,665
but carrying them out
and taking care of them.
1081
00:58:20,748 --> 00:58:25,294
It's that strange bilateral relationship
we had with the Vietnamese.
1082
00:58:26,796 --> 00:58:29,924
Two different directions. Love, hate.
1083
00:58:30,091 --> 00:58:32,510
It's like the knuckles on Rhah's hand.
1084
00:58:33,844 --> 00:58:36,847
We got some great light in here.
I think you can see the sun on the grass.
1085
00:58:36,931 --> 00:58:39,642
It must be that magic hour around 5:00,
1086
00:58:40,267 --> 00:58:41,769
maybe 6:00.
1087
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,981
The green is popping...
The sun's popping off the green.
1088
00:58:46,982 --> 00:58:51,028
And in the background, we blew the village.
Two cameras. You see that?
1089
00:58:56,409 --> 00:59:00,287
So here we are.
We're back in the perimeter that night.
1090
00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:05,167
And Elias and the Lieutenant
are explaining the situation
1091
00:59:05,251 --> 00:59:07,628
to the company commander, the Captain.
1092
00:59:07,712 --> 00:59:09,380
...as being witness to the shooting.
1093
00:59:09,463 --> 00:59:11,132
All right, Elias.
1094
00:59:11,799 --> 00:59:13,884
-Staff Sergeant Barnes?
-Sir!
1095
00:59:14,385 --> 00:59:17,596
I want a full report from you on this
when we get back to the CP.
1096
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,017
You got it, Dai-'Uy, and I can throw in
plenty of eyewitnesses if you want, sir.
1097
00:59:22,935 --> 00:59:25,521
That's Dale Dye, my military advisor,
1098
00:59:27,481 --> 00:59:29,984
with a dye on his hair.
1099
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:33,654
Dye is...
1100
00:59:34,989 --> 00:59:37,450
Several times in Vietnam, and very helpful
1101
00:59:37,533 --> 00:59:40,745
in remembering and outfitting an army
1102
00:59:40,828 --> 00:59:43,456
and helping me stage the military actions.
1103
00:59:43,789 --> 00:59:46,709
Now, we're going back into
that NVA bunker complex tomorrow.
1104
00:59:46,792 --> 00:59:48,169
This time from the East.
1105
00:59:48,252 --> 00:59:49,503
You people get some rest
1106
00:59:49,587 --> 00:59:51,046
and be back up here at the CP...
1107
00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:55,593
In this particular scene...
This is an interesting hinge to the film,
1108
00:59:55,676 --> 00:59:58,763
because he is telling Barnes
1109
00:59:58,846 --> 01:00:02,808
that he is gonna be...
The charges are gonna be looked into.
1110
01:00:02,892 --> 01:00:05,519
So now
Barnes does have something to lose.
1111
01:00:06,145 --> 01:00:09,440
If he... I mean, his career,
his military career, his promotions,
1112
01:00:09,523 --> 01:00:11,025
everything could be jeopardized
1113
01:00:11,108 --> 01:00:14,570
by an Article 15,
or a court-martial situation.
1114
01:00:14,862 --> 01:00:16,572
So there is something at stake going on,
1115
01:00:16,655 --> 01:00:18,949
but the Commanding Officer
doesn't wanna pursue it now.
1116
01:00:19,033 --> 01:00:22,369
Obviously, we're in the field. We're going
back into the NVA bunker complex.
1117
01:00:22,453 --> 01:00:26,832
Why? We always wondered why we had to
go back to places where we'd lost people.
1118
01:00:26,916 --> 01:00:29,794
Now, this is an interesting thing
that happened a lot.
1119
01:00:29,877 --> 01:00:33,547
We'd go back and circle around,
take more casualties.
1120
01:00:33,631 --> 01:00:35,549
Here you'll see the bloods talking together
1121
01:00:35,633 --> 01:00:38,969
and bitching about what the white man's
doing to them. It's the white man's war.
1122
01:00:39,053 --> 01:00:42,473
This shit is really getting out of hand, man.
It's going way out of control.
1123
01:00:42,556 --> 01:00:45,893
It seems to me
that you don't seem to know the difference.
1124
01:00:46,310 --> 01:00:49,063
And drugs was an issue, and also...
1125
01:00:49,855 --> 01:00:51,899
Towards the later part of my tour, in '68,
1126
01:00:51,982 --> 01:00:54,860
that's when I started to feel
there was much more racial dissension.
1127
01:00:54,944 --> 01:00:57,488
In my earlier part of the tour,
I didn't feel that at all.
1128
01:00:57,571 --> 01:01:00,074
I felt like they were more unified.
1129
01:01:00,616 --> 01:01:03,702
And I was befriended
by many black soldiers,
1130
01:01:03,786 --> 01:01:05,996
but I felt there was a lot of angry ones, too,
1131
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,166
especially after Martin Luther King
and Malcolm X
1132
01:01:09,250 --> 01:01:10,334
were killed in the United States.
1133
01:01:10,417 --> 01:01:12,378
Ain't no need or time
for a courtroom out here.
1134
01:01:12,461 --> 01:01:14,088
Come on, let's go.
1135
01:01:14,463 --> 01:01:17,591
Barnes sums up his vigilante feelings
about war.
1136
01:01:18,092 --> 01:01:20,010
How'd it go there, Bob?
1137
01:01:22,179 --> 01:01:26,016
Yeah. Atta way, Sarge. Fucking Elias, man.
1138
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:28,018
He's a fucking rat, that's what he is.
1139
01:01:28,102 --> 01:01:32,857
The platoon is really dividing now
over this issue at the village.
1140
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,028
Half the platoon's going with Bob Barnes.
They're worried.
1141
01:01:40,364 --> 01:01:42,783
The other half is going with Elias.
1142
01:01:44,577 --> 01:01:48,414
But Bob is worried, โcause basically
and fundamentally he's a military man,
1143
01:01:48,497 --> 01:01:50,249
and promotions and rank
and all that stuff matters to him.
1144
01:01:52,001 --> 01:01:56,964
And he knows he's screwed if he gets
into a pissing contest in a legal situation.
1145
01:01:57,047 --> 01:01:58,299
...the stars.
1146
01:01:59,258 --> 01:02:01,468
Elias sums up his feelings
about the war here.
1147
01:02:01,552 --> 01:02:03,387
There's no right or wrong in them.
1148
01:02:03,971 --> 01:02:05,639
Put those stars in.
1149
01:02:06,140 --> 01:02:07,641
That's a nice way of putting it.
1150
01:02:07,808 --> 01:02:11,896
I couldn't, at that time, find an Indian actor
1151
01:02:11,979 --> 01:02:16,150
who conveyed to me
the essence of Elias successfully.
1152
01:02:18,736 --> 01:02:22,990
And I looked.
So I ended up casting a Dutch actor
1153
01:02:23,991 --> 01:02:26,535
out of New York. I was very impressed
with Willem's performance
1154
01:02:26,619 --> 01:02:28,412
in To Live and Die in LA,
1155
01:02:28,495 --> 01:02:31,415
and the moment I saw him,
I felt that he looked so evil
1156
01:02:31,498 --> 01:02:32,917
and seductive and interesting,
1157
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,919
that I thought
that we could go the other way
1158
01:02:35,002 --> 01:02:40,007
with that, you know, sense of strangeness.
1159
01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:44,011
We're gonna lose this war.
1160
01:02:44,678 --> 01:02:47,932
Come on. You really think so?
1161
01:02:48,015 --> 01:02:49,099
Us?
1162
01:02:50,017 --> 01:02:53,020
We been kicking other people's asses
for so long,
1163
01:02:53,103 --> 01:02:55,773
I figure it's time we got ours kicked.
1164
01:03:05,950 --> 01:03:10,371
Day by day, I struggle to maintain
not only my strength but my sanity.
1165
01:03:10,454 --> 01:03:12,915
Chris continues writing home.
1166
01:03:13,207 --> 01:03:14,750
I have no energy to write.
1167
01:03:14,833 --> 01:03:16,460
But he stops writing here, he says.
1168
01:03:16,543 --> 01:03:18,587
I don't know what's right
and what's wrong anymore.
1169
01:03:18,796 --> 01:03:20,673
The morale of the men is low.
1170
01:03:21,298 --> 01:03:24,093
This is rain against sun. This is tough.
1171
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,639
We were scheduled for rain. Too much sun,
but we lit it anyway. We shot...
1172
01:03:28,722 --> 01:03:32,059
I mean, the sun pops the rain out,
so we went with it.
1173
01:03:32,226 --> 01:03:34,478
But it's a strange look,
but it did happen in Vietnam.
1174
01:03:34,561 --> 01:03:37,231
We would occasionally have rain and sun.
1175
01:03:37,439 --> 01:03:38,983
Not much else.
1176
01:03:39,650 --> 01:03:41,944
Hope things are well, Grandma.
1177
01:03:42,027 --> 01:03:43,946
Tell Mom and Dad I...
1178
01:03:44,238 --> 01:03:47,366
Well, just tell them. Chris.
1179
01:03:50,661 --> 01:03:53,038
He sees a spider hole back here.
1180
01:03:53,122 --> 01:03:56,291
This is interesting,
โcause he senses right away
1181
01:03:56,375 --> 01:03:58,794
there could be an ambush coming.
Somebody...
1182
01:03:58,877 --> 01:04:01,463
โCause anybody can get in that hole,
behind you or in between you.
1183
01:04:01,547 --> 01:04:05,134
That's what they want. They wanna get you
into crossfire situations.
1184
01:04:09,096 --> 01:04:12,224
Hey, big boy. I know you thought you had
that laundry gig...
1185
01:04:12,307 --> 01:04:15,102
I forgot about the leeches.
We had a lot of leeches.
1186
01:04:15,185 --> 01:04:18,355
Go right up your socks, into your socks.
1187
01:04:18,439 --> 01:04:21,692
Some of them, when it really rained a lot...
One time we got stuck...
1188
01:04:21,775 --> 01:04:24,653
Here's a leech on his face.
1189
01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:27,531
You'd see them everywhere.
1190
01:04:27,614 --> 01:04:28,782
They'd come right up on our...
1191
01:04:28,866 --> 01:04:30,784
Sometimes they'd come
right up your penis canal,
1192
01:04:30,868 --> 01:04:34,246
or your anal canal or your ears, your nose.
1193
01:04:34,329 --> 01:04:36,832
They get in overnight.
1194
01:04:38,250 --> 01:04:42,629
Some guys had to be evacuated.
He had an inflated leech in his intestine,
1195
01:04:43,756 --> 01:04:45,132
and they had to cut it out, operate him.
1196
01:04:47,593 --> 01:04:51,805
This is based on an ambush
that happened to me on January 15, 1968.
1197
01:04:52,931 --> 01:04:54,933
We got picked off like...
1198
01:04:56,060 --> 01:04:59,480
We took 35 wounded, I think,
four, five dead,
1199
01:05:00,022 --> 01:05:02,483
and we didn't even see one of them.
1200
01:05:12,326 --> 01:05:13,994
Johnny Depp in the lead.
1201
01:05:18,207 --> 01:05:19,583
Guy in a bunker.
1202
01:05:21,001 --> 01:05:23,253
You see there's an explosion right there.
They got him.
1203
01:05:23,337 --> 01:05:25,756
Those are mortars.
They're walking mortars in.
1204
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:27,049
RPGs are gonna come next.
1205
01:05:27,132 --> 01:05:30,094
RPGs are rockets
and the most dangerous of all.
1206
01:05:30,177 --> 01:05:32,096
Charlie comes running up.
1207
01:05:34,473 --> 01:05:35,766
Good baseball slide there.
1208
01:05:35,849 --> 01:05:39,103
You see the mud.
He slid an extra three feet.
1209
01:05:39,186 --> 01:05:40,646
-Who's on point?
-Lerner and Warren!
1210
01:05:40,729 --> 01:05:42,481
He's trying to be a hero today.
I don't know why.
1211
01:05:42,564 --> 01:05:45,651
Maybe because of what happened
in the village.
1212
01:05:45,734 --> 01:05:48,695
Sometimes you become a hero,
you don't know why.
1213
01:05:50,614 --> 01:05:53,575
You give enough, you know,
you just get sick of it.
1214
01:05:53,659 --> 01:05:57,246
Good sound effects here.
Good thuds, good concussions.
1215
01:05:58,664 --> 01:06:01,250
This is sort of the pre-The Terminator era,
1216
01:06:01,333 --> 01:06:04,336
So we were still working
with a more primitive
1217
01:06:04,419 --> 01:06:07,756
sound effects system.
1218
01:06:10,217 --> 01:06:12,761
We've since enhanced a lot of the artillery
1219
01:06:12,845 --> 01:06:16,056
on Born on the Fourth of July
and Heaven & Earth.
1220
01:06:18,308 --> 01:06:22,229
This picture was done in a very quick mix,
actually, over at Ryder Sound
1221
01:06:22,771 --> 01:06:24,314
in Hollywood.
1222
01:06:27,442 --> 01:06:29,528
There's some good shots there.
1223
01:06:29,611 --> 01:06:31,488
Good relationship shots to bunker.
1224
01:06:31,572 --> 01:06:35,117
And here he is behind an anthill.
I ended up behind an anthill one day.
1225
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,077
The mud. I love the mud.
1226
01:06:37,161 --> 01:06:40,539
Crawling up alongside a guy who's
been shot. Look at the way it's laid out.
1227
01:06:40,622 --> 01:06:43,167
He can't even read the goddamn compass.
That's one of the...
1228
01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:46,378
These are the practical considerations
people don't know.
1229
01:06:46,461 --> 01:06:49,840
You can barely read it. And your watch
gets clogged up, your compass...
1230
01:06:49,923 --> 01:06:51,633
He's gonna call in the wrong artillery.
1231
01:06:51,717 --> 01:06:54,303
He's gonna walk it right in on his own men.
1232
01:06:54,386 --> 01:06:55,929
I spotted a cut over there.
1233
01:06:56,013 --> 01:06:58,015
You're nervous, too.
1234
01:06:58,098 --> 01:07:01,685
Elias offers a strategy that makes sense,
to roll up the flank.
1235
01:07:01,768 --> 01:07:04,521
But he doesn't know what to do.
It's a tough call, too.
1236
01:07:04,605 --> 01:07:06,064
Where the fuck is Red platoon?
1237
01:07:06,148 --> 01:07:07,482
Tell those assholes to get up here!
1238
01:07:07,566 --> 01:07:10,944
How do you do when you get pinned down
like this? You got people behind you.
1239
01:07:11,028 --> 01:07:13,238
Listen to me, Barnes,
there's holes back here.
1240
01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:16,241
Third platoon's coming up here.
We're here.
1241
01:07:16,325 --> 01:07:19,536
Dinks get men in these holes,
they got us caught in a crossfire.
1242
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:20,913
We'll shoot each other to shit.
1243
01:07:20,996 --> 01:07:23,207
Sounds pretty far-out to me, Elias.
1244
01:07:23,290 --> 01:07:25,834
That's what happened...
Yeah, that happened at la Drang.
1245
01:07:25,918 --> 01:07:27,711
They cut us to fucking pieces!
1246
01:07:27,961 --> 01:07:28,962
I need three men!
1247
01:07:29,046 --> 01:07:30,881
Then you got them. Take off.
1248
01:07:30,964 --> 01:07:33,383
Barnes sees the plan. He understands.
1249
01:07:33,634 --> 01:07:37,137
I don't wanna be stuck out there
with my ass hanging in the breeze.
1250
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:39,181
You don't tell me how to run my war...
1251
01:07:39,264 --> 01:07:41,141
Barnes lets Elias go do what he wants.
1252
01:07:41,225 --> 01:07:44,394
Now, you go crying and rat fucking
the brigade on your own time!
1253
01:07:44,478 --> 01:07:47,564
But out here, you belong to me!
Now move!
1254
01:07:47,648 --> 01:07:49,233
You're an asshole, Barnes!
1255
01:07:49,316 --> 01:07:53,070
I don't know if Barnes has a plan
in his head. We don't know.
1256
01:07:53,612 --> 01:07:57,407
But it makes sense to spread out,
get somebody on the flank there.
1257
01:07:57,491 --> 01:07:59,034
Try to turn them.
1258
01:07:59,326 --> 01:08:01,703
Meanwhile, Chris is up front there.
1259
01:08:01,787 --> 01:08:05,916
He's being shot to shit
by this guy in the hole. Happened to me.
1260
01:08:06,875 --> 01:08:09,419
There was one...
I had an M79, so I couldn't even use it.
1261
01:08:09,503 --> 01:08:13,298
Doesn't fire at that close range,
So I was stuck up there without anything
1262
01:08:13,382 --> 01:08:15,968
except for grenades. I threw grenades.
1263
01:08:21,974 --> 01:08:25,394
The guy was popping up, you See.
Didn't know that he had a grenade.
1264
01:08:25,519 --> 01:08:27,562
It was in... That was his first Kill.
1265
01:08:27,646 --> 01:08:29,856
Or his first known Kill, anyway.
1266
01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:35,153
Now he's gone up to his friend,
Johnny Depp.
1267
01:08:35,404 --> 01:08:37,698
Meanwhile, King's been able
to get up with the M60.
1268
01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:40,575
You always need to try
to get that M60 up front.
1269
01:08:40,993 --> 01:08:43,453
You try to lay out some fire.
You got a lot of...
1270
01:08:43,537 --> 01:08:46,832
Modern firepower's very cutting
and it's intense.
1271
01:08:48,083 --> 01:08:51,211
If you can lay out...
The theory is if you can lay out fire,
1272
01:08:51,753 --> 01:08:55,132
you can cut your casualties in, you know...
1273
01:08:55,382 --> 01:08:58,051
Oh, shit, this guy is fucked!
1274
01:08:58,552 --> 01:09:02,472
He just looked up in time to see
his own artillery coming down on him.
1275
01:09:04,266 --> 01:09:06,226
These are some good shots.
1276
01:09:09,146 --> 01:09:13,442
Oh, man, that guy got buried with...
He got shrapnel all over his back.
1277
01:09:14,026 --> 01:09:16,653
And he's hot, you see,
โcause you get shrapnel in your back, too.
1278
01:09:16,737 --> 01:09:18,613
You're really boiling.
1279
01:09:20,365 --> 01:09:21,533
Medic!
1280
01:09:21,908 --> 01:09:24,328
Barnes is taking out the shrapnel.
1281
01:09:24,995 --> 01:09:28,332
You see the smoke
coming off his shirt there. That's cool.
1282
01:09:34,546 --> 01:09:38,759
-God!
-Medic!
1283
01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:41,303
Shoot.
1284
01:09:41,386 --> 01:09:44,514
It's horrible to be in artillery and bombs.
1285
01:09:44,598 --> 01:09:46,767
He trips the satchel.
That's what happened to me.
1286
01:09:46,850 --> 01:09:50,437
A friend of mine...
Not a gunner friend, a guy I was with...
1287
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,939
Great shot.
A guy I was with tripped a satchel.
1288
01:09:53,023 --> 01:09:55,359
I got wounded my second time
on January 15th.
1289
01:09:55,442 --> 01:09:57,277
I got shot in the...
1290
01:09:57,861 --> 01:10:01,114
Shrapnel in the legs and the ass, actually.
1291
01:10:02,074 --> 01:10:05,160
So they're trying to regroup in the back
here. Get their wounded back.
1292
01:10:05,410 --> 01:10:06,953
-You okay?
-Don't leave me, man.
1293
01:10:07,454 --> 01:10:10,415
This is a sad scene for Chris. He's...
1294
01:10:10,957 --> 01:10:13,668
He knows his friend is really in bad shape,
may not make it,
1295
01:10:13,752 --> 01:10:16,338
and it inspires Chris to...
1296
01:10:16,421 --> 01:10:20,967
In a strange way,
to get back into the fight and make good.
1297
01:10:21,718 --> 01:10:25,389
You know, a sense of vengeance sets in,
1298
01:10:25,472 --> 01:10:29,976
and, as often the case of...
Brings out the heroism.
1299
01:10:30,519 --> 01:10:33,021
Chain reaction, cause and effect.
1300
01:10:34,606 --> 01:10:38,318
Barnes is really pissed off at the Lieutenant
for doing this.
1301
01:10:40,654 --> 01:10:42,489
You ignorant asshole!
1302
01:10:42,739 --> 01:10:44,950
What the fuck coordinates you giving?
1303
01:10:45,033 --> 01:10:49,204
You wasted a lot of people up there
with your fucked-up fire mission!
1304
01:10:49,287 --> 01:10:52,916
You know that? You know that?
1305
01:10:53,083 --> 01:10:55,085
Puts his helmet on the wrong way.
1306
01:10:56,044 --> 01:11:00,006
That's mosquito repellent on the helmet
there, on that helmet band liner.
1307
01:11:00,090 --> 01:11:02,342
Check your fire! Check your fire!
1308
01:11:02,968 --> 01:11:05,762
Meanwhile, Elias is out on flank.
He's trying to turn the flank.
1309
01:11:05,846 --> 01:11:09,808
He's got Charlie Sheen with him
and Francesco Quinn,
1310
01:11:09,891 --> 01:11:11,893
who's Anthony Quinn's son.
1311
01:11:12,519 --> 01:11:14,187
And Chris Pedersen.
1312
01:11:17,858 --> 01:11:22,195
Stagger yourself across this line.
Shoot anything that moves.
1313
01:11:22,529 --> 01:11:24,322
They'll be coming from over there.
1314
01:11:24,406 --> 01:11:28,034
Elias feels that
they're gonna try to come in between
1315
01:11:29,369 --> 01:11:31,538
the two platoons.
They're gonna have a bigger day.
1316
01:11:31,621 --> 01:11:33,832
They're gonna really
wipe out two platoons here,
1317
01:11:33,915 --> 01:11:35,459
So it's an important action that he does.
1318
01:11:35,542 --> 01:11:37,002
...in case they try to flank us.
1319
01:11:37,085 --> 01:11:40,130
Third platoon's coming up to our rear,
so watch for them.
1320
01:11:40,213 --> 01:11:42,257
Hey. Can I go with you?
1321
01:11:42,340 --> 01:11:45,177
No. I move faster alone.
1322
01:11:52,225 --> 01:11:54,853
You can get stuck up there
for, like, two, three hours sometimes.
1323
01:11:54,936 --> 01:11:56,813
They just wait and they'll bait you.
1324
01:11:56,897 --> 01:11:59,900
We tell everybody to pull back
to the church.
1325
01:11:59,983 --> 01:12:02,944
We link up with third platoon.
You got that?
1326
01:12:03,570 --> 01:12:06,948
What about Elias?
If we pull back, he'll be cut off.
1327
01:12:07,032 --> 01:12:11,745
You just haul ass, too, Lieutenant.
I'll get him.
1328
01:12:17,083 --> 01:12:18,627
Rain's stopping.
1329
01:12:19,336 --> 01:12:21,922
A few minutes have gone by. Lot of fog.
1330
01:12:22,214 --> 01:12:24,925
I like jungle fog. They're coming, all right.
1331
01:12:26,134 --> 01:12:29,012
And these four guys
are gonna try to stop them.
1332
01:12:42,150 --> 01:12:44,027
Now, this feels pretty good.
1333
01:12:44,110 --> 01:12:47,322
โCause you've been nailed all day,
and then you get them.
1334
01:12:47,405 --> 01:12:49,824
So these guys are really excited.
1335
01:12:51,826 --> 01:12:54,704
-I got two of them fuckers, man.
-I got one!
1336
01:12:54,788 --> 01:12:56,790
Ho Chi Minh sucks dead dick!
1337
01:12:56,873 --> 01:12:59,292
I mean, you go a little crazy there.
1338
01:12:59,543 --> 01:13:01,962
This could be a long, frustrating war.
You don't see them often.
1339
01:13:02,045 --> 01:13:04,881
And when you see them and you get them,
it's amazing.
1340
01:13:04,965 --> 01:13:07,717
It's like fishing or hunting,
except you're dealing with human lives.
1341
01:13:07,801 --> 01:13:09,219
You realize it later in your life,
1342
01:13:09,302 --> 01:13:13,265
but right then and there, when you're a kid,
it's part of the game.
1343
01:13:13,348 --> 01:13:15,267
Sarge, there's a bunch of gooks
came through there.
1344
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:17,018
We got three of them fuckers.
1345
01:13:17,102 --> 01:13:19,771
Hey, didn't you hear the arty shift?
We're pulling back.
1346
01:13:19,854 --> 01:13:23,233
So Barnes is shifting the artillery,
he's pulling back the troops,
1347
01:13:23,316 --> 01:13:24,985
and he's got Elias out there.
1348
01:13:25,068 --> 01:13:26,111
I'll get him!
1349
01:13:26,194 --> 01:13:30,323
You get Crawford in now,
before I article 15 both your asses. Move!
1350
01:13:31,032 --> 01:13:32,284
Move it.
1351
01:13:36,788 --> 01:13:41,293
This was shot all in a rainforest right
outside Manila, not too far from Manila.
1352
01:13:41,376 --> 01:13:44,379
We had a kung-fu ninja film
shooting next door,
1353
01:13:44,462 --> 01:13:47,924
So occasionally we'd look over and we'd
see a Chinese guy flying through the air
1354
01:13:48,008 --> 01:13:50,427
in a black pajama off a trampoline.
1355
01:13:55,974 --> 01:13:59,436
We built a... One of these...
Some of these shots,
1356
01:13:59,519 --> 01:14:02,772
if you look closely,
we built a dolly here in the jungle,
1357
01:14:02,856 --> 01:14:05,609
that was about 90 feet long, 120 feet long,
1358
01:14:05,692 --> 01:14:08,320
and we just whipped it through there.
I mean, it's a hard dolly,
1359
01:14:08,403 --> 01:14:10,322
โcause this jungle is not even-layered,
1360
01:14:10,405 --> 01:14:15,243
So we had to put a lot of,
you know, compensations in on the dolly,
1361
01:14:15,327 --> 01:14:17,203
and boy, we were flying down these tracks.
1362
01:14:17,287 --> 01:14:18,455
These guys are really running.
1363
01:14:18,538 --> 01:14:20,957
They're trying
to get in between the American platoons.
1364
01:14:21,041 --> 01:14:23,960
Elias is the only thing
that can prevent them from doing so.
1365
01:14:24,044 --> 01:14:27,130
And he's running counter-direction,
you see, left to right, right to left.
1366
01:14:27,213 --> 01:14:29,215
They're coming. He's coming.
1367
01:14:29,299 --> 01:14:31,718
That's a tough shot in the jungle.
1368
01:14:33,887 --> 01:14:36,222
And they are running, these guys.
1369
01:14:38,224 --> 01:14:40,268
And boom, they meet.
1370
01:14:51,404 --> 01:14:54,866
And Barnes is also stalking, as you can see.
1371
01:14:54,949 --> 01:14:56,785
Barnes is stalking him left to right
1372
01:14:56,868 --> 01:15:00,330
and now he turns
and he goes back, right to left,
1373
01:15:00,413 --> 01:15:04,793
indicating that he's picking up
on something on Elias in another direction,
1374
01:15:04,876 --> 01:15:06,670
that Elias is circling.
1375
01:15:06,753 --> 01:15:07,962
You can hear on the soundtrack
1376
01:15:08,046 --> 01:15:12,634
some interesting
Georges Delerue Japanese-style music,
1377
01:15:13,385 --> 01:15:17,097
indicating the spookiness and mystery
of this jungle.
1378
01:15:27,065 --> 01:15:31,653
Meanwhile, back at the perimeter,
they're restocking,
1379
01:15:31,736 --> 01:15:34,280
putting the wounded and the dying in.
1380
01:15:34,698 --> 01:15:39,703
This is a mess. It smells. It's awful.
People are shot, dying, screaming.
1381
01:15:39,786 --> 01:15:41,287
Charlie goes back out.
1382
01:15:59,639 --> 01:16:04,102
That's a cool shot, moving through bush
on a track. Coming in on him.
1383
01:16:06,354 --> 01:16:09,566
Here he is. This is cool.
We laid mist on the floor.
1384
01:16:10,817 --> 01:16:13,695
And he thinks it's an NVA.
Now he realizes...
1385
01:16:13,778 --> 01:16:17,699
He thinks, "It's Barnes. Okay, he's okay."
He smiles. Barnes lets up. "Oh, it's Elias.โ
1386
01:16:17,782 --> 01:16:19,993
You see, he didn't even decide until now.
1387
01:16:20,827 --> 01:16:23,329
"Good friends, right?" "Right, Jack."
1388
01:16:25,749 --> 01:16:28,209
Elias gets it. So does Barnes.
1389
01:16:32,255 --> 01:16:34,716
Can't hesitate when you're a warrior.
1390
01:16:35,508 --> 01:16:38,344
I don't think he even planned it.
I think it's an interesting equation
1391
01:16:38,428 --> 01:16:42,265
that grew out of this coincidence
that Elias got stretched out.
1392
01:16:42,348 --> 01:16:45,477
And Barnes just took advantage
of that situation.
1393
01:16:46,144 --> 01:16:48,104
Get rid of the trial, too.
1394
01:16:48,438 --> 01:16:50,815
Now, he didn't count on this punk.
1395
01:16:50,899 --> 01:16:54,444
Elias is dead. Fall back with the platoon.
1396
01:16:54,819 --> 01:16:55,820
Get going.
1397
01:16:55,904 --> 01:16:59,199
Tom Berenger seems to have
a bit of a guilt complex there.
1398
01:16:59,282 --> 01:17:00,450
Charlie is really...
1399
01:17:00,533 --> 01:17:03,453
Doesn't know what to do,
to go with him or try to look for Elias.
1400
01:17:03,536 --> 01:17:04,954
It's hopeless to look for him.
1401
01:17:05,038 --> 01:17:10,126
A nice reverse dolly is in there,
kind of going in on Chris
1402
01:17:10,794 --> 01:17:13,421
and reversing to Barnes.
1403
01:17:17,008 --> 01:17:19,969
This sequence coming up was really
tough to shoot. We were in choppers,
1404
01:17:20,053 --> 01:17:22,972
in and out, on the ground,
above the ground.
1405
01:17:23,431 --> 01:17:27,644
This is a tough one. Bodies moving
towards the chopper for evacuation.
1406
01:17:27,727 --> 01:17:29,229
Wind, no wash.
1407
01:17:29,979 --> 01:17:32,065
Good wounds, good makeup.
1408
01:17:34,567 --> 01:17:38,112
And a lot of...
All of these guys, they really are struggling.
1409
01:17:38,905 --> 01:17:42,200
Some of them are getting out, though.
They're happy.
1410
01:17:42,283 --> 01:17:44,661
Some of these actors are finishing today,
you know, too.
1411
01:17:44,744 --> 01:17:46,371
We shot in sequence.
1412
01:17:46,454 --> 01:17:50,250
So they're getting home, going home.
They're getting out of this mess.
1413
01:17:53,545 --> 01:17:55,588
Yeah, that happened a lot.
1414
01:17:56,548 --> 01:18:00,510
Wash would knock off the bodies.
That's great makeup on those dead bodies.
1415
01:18:00,593 --> 01:18:02,637
There's a good shot coming up.
1416
01:18:04,472 --> 01:18:06,224
Yeah, I told them, "Lift him, just lift him.
1417
01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:10,937
"I don't care how you get him up. Just
drag him. Make it awkward. Make it ugly."
1418
01:18:11,813 --> 01:18:13,773
It's hard, carrying guys.
1419
01:18:14,858 --> 01:18:16,401
Faces are good, though.
1420
01:18:16,484 --> 01:18:19,362
They got that rigor mortis 00K.
1421
01:18:27,787 --> 01:18:31,916
Charlie's got a defiant new graffiti
on his helmet, if you notice.
1422
01:18:32,292 --> 01:18:34,210
And that's Forest Whitaker, there.
1423
01:18:34,294 --> 01:18:36,921
He's happy. He's getting out.
1424
01:18:39,132 --> 01:18:40,884
Big John, he's getting out of the field.
1425
01:18:40,967 --> 01:18:42,302
Now, this is a tough shot.
1426
01:18:42,385 --> 01:18:45,013
Look at how close we are to the chopper
on that one. You were right on top.
1427
01:18:45,096 --> 01:18:48,057
Now we're nailing around.
We're coming around on a dolly.
1428
01:18:48,141 --> 01:18:50,685
Picking this up, that's pretty dangerous.
1429
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,397
Plus, we got a lot of explosions
near the choppers.
1430
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:57,650
The Filipino Army
really went out of their way to help us,
1431
01:18:57,734 --> 01:19:02,822
but the US Pentagon, of course,
thought the script was unrealistic
1432
01:19:04,115 --> 01:19:06,910
and told us that they would not cooperate.
1433
01:19:07,118 --> 01:19:10,663
These are tough shots. There's Dale Dye,
shooting out the back. He's getting out.
1434
01:19:10,747 --> 01:19:13,249
This is a tough one, too, โcause we had
a lot of people in this chopper.
1435
01:19:13,333 --> 01:19:15,752
I remember we almost...
This is where we almost bought it.
1436
01:19:15,835 --> 01:19:17,670
You see about six, seven people
in this chopper.
1437
01:19:17,754 --> 01:19:21,174
Look at that down there. That's cool.
The NVA are coming up.
1438
01:19:21,257 --> 01:19:22,592
We were too many people...
1439
01:19:22,675 --> 01:19:24,260
With the camera equipment,
the sound equipment,
1440
01:19:24,344 --> 01:19:25,762
there's just too many people
in this chopper.
1441
01:19:25,845 --> 01:19:28,681
We almost went right into the side
of the mountain there on the ravine.
1442
01:19:28,765 --> 01:19:30,892
But... There's a slow-motion shot.
1443
01:19:32,185 --> 01:19:34,228
"Back down, back down,
go back down there."
1444
01:19:34,312 --> 01:19:36,981
โCause they got Elias there.
You see, they just spotted him.
1445
01:19:37,065 --> 01:19:39,359
He wasn't killed by Barnes' bullet.
1446
01:19:41,152 --> 01:19:43,863
So I got a little operatic here.
1447
01:19:44,697 --> 01:19:47,575
Obviously, Elias didn't die this grandiose,
1448
01:19:48,242 --> 01:19:50,536
but what the hell, it's only a movie.
1449
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:07,845
This is interesting.
We have the NVA shooting at the...
1450
01:20:07,929 --> 01:20:10,306
Keeping the air support
from getting too close,
1451
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:11,975
and they're getting blown to smithereens.
1452
01:20:12,058 --> 01:20:14,686
The squibs in the ground,
that's tough. Complicated.
1453
01:20:14,769 --> 01:20:17,814
Great shot, though, with long lens.
Seeing them in the background.
1454
01:20:17,897 --> 01:20:19,649
Double, triple actions.
1455
01:20:19,732 --> 01:20:22,527
But they are keeping the choppers off.
Here's a really beautiful wide shot.
1456
01:20:22,610 --> 01:20:25,446
It's shot from another chopper
over the church getting in the frame.
1457
01:20:25,530 --> 01:20:28,116
You see that second chopper flying over.
1458
01:20:28,199 --> 01:20:31,327
You get a sense of the madness of this.
And here...
1459
01:20:31,411 --> 01:20:33,746
Ironically, this became our poster.
1460
01:20:34,580 --> 01:20:37,875
That's a tough snatch of sky.
We couldn't do it,
1461
01:20:38,584 --> 01:20:41,004
but it was a great shot. Great try.
1462
01:20:41,087 --> 01:20:43,923
That's... What a beauty, too, of Elias.
1463
01:20:44,716 --> 01:20:48,928
And Charlie knows. He knows.
So does Bob Barnes.
1464
01:20:51,389 --> 01:20:54,851
He... Elias didn't make it back
to base camp.
1465
01:21:04,694 --> 01:21:07,030
This is a good shot,
coming into the base camp.
1466
01:21:07,363 --> 01:21:09,782
That's a 6:00 magic hour shot.
1467
01:21:10,450 --> 01:21:15,371
The heads are back in the hooch,
and they're pissed off about Elias' death.
1468
01:21:15,955 --> 01:21:19,333
And as the war progressed
in the '68 period,
1469
01:21:19,417 --> 01:21:23,296
there was much more fragging
that was going on.
1470
01:21:24,380 --> 01:21:27,842
Sergeants and sometimes lieutenants
were aftacked.
1471
01:21:27,925 --> 01:21:31,012
There was dissension in the troops,
there was mutinies.
1472
01:21:32,305 --> 01:21:35,683
And, you know, already,
with a large amount of friendly fire
1473
01:21:35,767 --> 01:21:37,810
that had occurred, and casualties,
1474
01:21:37,894 --> 01:21:40,063
this was another added burden.
1475
01:21:40,146 --> 01:21:43,066
And there was a tremendous amount
of demoralization
1476
01:21:43,149 --> 01:21:45,902
based on Johnson's withdrawing
from the war in March.
1477
01:21:45,985 --> 01:21:49,530
Lyndon Johnson said
that he would not run for office,
1478
01:21:49,614 --> 01:21:50,990
and that was it, basically.
1479
01:21:51,074 --> 01:21:54,869
From that point on, every infantryman
knew that the game was up
1480
01:21:54,952 --> 01:21:57,497
and it was just a question of survival.
1481
01:21:57,705 --> 01:22:01,542
And demoralization set in,
more drug usage,
1482
01:22:01,626 --> 01:22:03,711
more race war
1483
01:22:04,796 --> 01:22:06,297
and questioning.
1484
01:22:06,380 --> 01:22:09,092
Not an openly overt question
as to why we're there,
1485
01:22:09,175 --> 01:22:12,762
but just sort of an underlying feeling
of disease.
1486
01:22:13,096 --> 01:22:15,181
...'cause he done left his pains down here.
1487
01:22:15,264 --> 01:22:16,349
You're wrong, man.
1488
01:22:16,432 --> 01:22:18,851
Any way you cut it,
Barnes is a fucking murderer.
1489
01:22:18,935 --> 01:22:19,936
Right on.
1490
01:22:20,019 --> 01:22:23,648
Taylor, I remember
when you first came in here...
1491
01:22:24,857 --> 01:22:27,527
Rhah was a country boy
from South Carolina,
1492
01:22:27,610 --> 01:22:31,614
an interesting sort of Robert Mitchum-
Night of the Hunter character,
1493
01:22:31,697 --> 01:22:35,660
who really nailed me a couple of times,
told me things I didn't wanna hear.
1494
01:22:35,743 --> 01:22:40,248
But good country sense,
good sense of what to do in combat.
1495
01:22:40,748 --> 01:22:44,544
And he's saying to me here, basically,
not to go against Barnes.
1496
01:22:45,461 --> 01:22:49,465
Take a little bit of dramatic license.
Barnes never confronted us like this,
1497
01:22:49,549 --> 01:22:51,968
but for the purpose of this scene,
1498
01:22:52,051 --> 01:22:56,222
I decided to walk him right into the hooch,
right into the head hooch.
1499
01:22:58,391 --> 01:23:00,601
And it became
one of Tom's favorite scenes.
1500
01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:02,395
One of his best.
1501
01:23:03,563 --> 01:23:05,148
Y'all experts?
1502
01:23:07,441 --> 01:23:09,569
Y'all know about killing?
1503
01:23:10,570 --> 01:23:13,114
I'd like to hear about it, potheads.
1504
01:23:17,410 --> 01:23:20,955
Barnes was not a person
who liked potheads at all.
1505
01:23:21,038 --> 01:23:23,583
Why do you smoke this shit?
So as to escape from reality?
1506
01:23:23,666 --> 01:23:24,792
But...
1507
01:23:26,169 --> 01:23:27,336
Me, I don't need this shit.
1508
01:23:27,420 --> 01:23:30,381
I took the liberty with this.
I did the scene to push it.
1509
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,844
And they're coming to a head here,
coming to a conclusion.
1510
01:23:34,927 --> 01:23:36,429
I am reality.
1511
01:23:43,019 --> 01:23:44,729
There's the way it ought to be.
1512
01:23:44,812 --> 01:23:46,647
And there's the way it is.
1513
01:23:47,607 --> 01:23:50,109
That's the kind of feeling we had, that...
1514
01:23:50,693 --> 01:23:52,570
Elias was full of shit.
1515
01:23:52,653 --> 01:23:54,363
Charlie was an idealist.
1516
01:23:54,447 --> 01:23:56,282
Elias was a crusader.
1517
01:23:57,950 --> 01:23:59,702
Now, I got no fight
1518
01:23:59,785 --> 01:24:02,246
with any man who does what he's told,
1519
01:24:02,455 --> 01:24:03,706
but when he don't...
1520
01:24:04,165 --> 01:24:06,542
He's talking to Charlie, not to Elias.
1521
01:24:06,792 --> 01:24:10,671
And when the machine breaks down,
we break down.
1522
01:24:10,755 --> 01:24:12,215
There's some truth to that.
1523
01:24:12,298 --> 01:24:14,467
And I ain't gonna allow that...
1524
01:24:15,343 --> 01:24:17,178
Any commander will tell you.
1525
01:24:17,637 --> 01:24:18,888
Not one.
1526
01:24:24,435 --> 01:24:27,188
Elias had an element of individuality
1527
01:24:27,271 --> 01:24:30,358
that works against the machine.
1528
01:24:35,738 --> 01:24:37,365
Y'all love Elias.
1529
01:24:42,495 --> 01:24:44,413
Oh, you wanna kick ass.
1530
01:24:46,207 --> 01:24:50,336
Most Americans that I talked to
sided with Barnes in this dispute.
1531
01:24:51,003 --> 01:24:53,965
Well, here I am, all by my lonesome,
1532
01:24:57,260 --> 01:24:59,387
and ain't nobody gonna know.
1533
01:25:05,601 --> 01:25:07,478
Six of you boys against me.
1534
01:25:13,859 --> 01:25:15,152
Kill me.
1535
01:25:23,494 --> 01:25:27,164
Well, you don't often respond
to that kind of provocation.
1536
01:25:31,961 --> 01:25:37,174
It's a provocation that's hard to resist.
Chris falls for it.
1537
01:25:37,967 --> 01:25:42,221
And he's not the street fighter
that Barnes is, and he loses quite quickly.
1538
01:25:42,388 --> 01:25:45,016
Give it to him! Whoop his ass. Come on.
1539
01:25:45,099 --> 01:25:46,142
Yes, man.
1540
01:25:46,225 --> 01:25:47,935
-Come on, man! Go.
-Get him!
1541
01:25:48,019 --> 01:25:51,147
-Oh, fuck, come on.
-Get him, Chris. Come on.
1542
01:25:51,397 --> 01:25:55,067
I find this scene a little bit melodramatic
in hindsight.
1543
01:25:55,151 --> 01:25:58,404
I'd probably do it differently
if I were directing it now.
1544
01:25:58,738 --> 01:25:59,905
But...
1545
01:26:01,365 --> 01:26:04,452
Ten years,
you'll climb the fucking walls, man.
1546
01:26:05,578 --> 01:26:08,581
Barnes, of course, thinks about trials,
1547
01:26:08,664 --> 01:26:11,876
thinks about the system. He can't do it.
1548
01:26:20,134 --> 01:26:24,555
Takes Charlie's cherry, in a sense, there.
Warns him off.
1549
01:26:26,807 --> 01:26:27,975
Death?
1550
01:26:28,726 --> 01:26:30,353
What do you all know about death?
1551
01:26:30,436 --> 01:26:31,645
Couldn't resist this line.
1552
01:26:31,729 --> 01:26:34,648
Of course, it's a little bit melodramatic,
1553
01:26:34,732 --> 01:26:39,362
but I just couldn't resist that kind of thing.
1554
01:26:39,445 --> 01:26:41,030
He's a little drunk, as you can see.
1555
01:26:41,113 --> 01:26:42,114
He bangs against the crate, there.
1556
01:26:43,157 --> 01:26:47,536
So he might be presumed
to say something like that.
1557
01:26:48,287 --> 01:26:52,208
I felt that about Barnes, you know,
that he had those dead eyes.
1558
01:26:52,291 --> 01:26:56,337
He'd been to death,
he'd been back across the gulf.
1559
01:26:57,254 --> 01:26:59,924
That's what gave him his power over men.
1560
01:27:03,427 --> 01:27:06,972
In this scene, we're returning to the same
area where we'd been ambushed before,
1561
01:27:07,056 --> 01:27:08,724
and this is a very bad feeling.
1562
01:27:08,808 --> 01:27:12,144
It's sort of like going back down
into one of the bardos.
1563
01:27:12,228 --> 01:27:13,771
Past the church.
1564
01:27:13,854 --> 01:27:15,398
It's a flashback.
1565
01:27:15,481 --> 01:27:17,817
Past the church where Elias died.
1566
01:27:21,654 --> 01:27:26,409
See, I built this two-battalion perimeter
for the film
1567
01:27:26,492 --> 01:27:30,538
because we wanted to...
I wanted to match this battle I had
1568
01:27:30,621 --> 01:27:33,457
on January 1, 1968.
1569
01:27:34,250 --> 01:27:38,879
We were about two battalions,
but weak battalions, not fully loaded,
1570
01:27:38,963 --> 01:27:42,675
and we were hit
by 5,000 North Vietnamese.
1571
01:27:43,259 --> 01:27:47,596
Somewhere out there
was the entire 141st NVA regiment.
1572
01:27:49,056 --> 01:27:50,808
It was near a place called Suoi Cut,
1573
01:27:50,891 --> 01:27:53,936
on the Vietnamese maps, S-U-O-I-K-U-T.
1574
01:27:54,019 --> 01:27:57,398
It was called Firebase Burt, B-U-R-T,
by the Americans.
1575
01:27:57,606 --> 01:28:00,025
And it was some hell of a firefight.
1576
01:28:00,109 --> 01:28:03,904
There wasn't much written about that.
In fact, I never saw it written about
1577
01:28:03,988 --> 01:28:06,615
in any military history.
1578
01:28:06,866 --> 01:28:08,826
It was sort of ignored.
It was a strange thing.
1579
01:28:08,909 --> 01:28:12,329
And years later, I finally
ran into some veterans of that night,
1580
01:28:12,413 --> 01:28:15,499
and they told me
incredible stories about it.
1581
01:28:16,292 --> 01:28:19,795
So I knew that it had happened
and, for a while there after the war,
1582
01:28:19,879 --> 01:28:21,630
I doubted my own sanity.
1583
01:28:21,714 --> 01:28:24,717
I thought it may have been an illusion
and I had a dream,
1584
01:28:25,134 --> 01:28:26,969
but I know that that fight happened.
1585
01:28:27,052 --> 01:28:28,888
...fucking Cambodia right now.
1586
01:28:28,971 --> 01:28:31,390
Cambodia? Man, you kidding me.
1587
01:28:32,349 --> 01:28:34,393
You wanted to see me, sir?
1588
01:28:35,853 --> 01:28:39,106
Yeah, Ramucci.
Looks like you got Elias' squad now.
1589
01:28:39,315 --> 01:28:40,566
Squad, sir?
1590
01:28:40,649 --> 01:28:43,444
I didn't know we were still referring
to this platoon in terms of squads.
1591
01:28:43,527 --> 01:28:45,070
All right, look.
1592
01:28:45,154 --> 01:28:48,073
I want you to take those two holes
right there and there.
1593
01:28:48,908 --> 01:28:50,868
Well, by this time,
the Lieutenant's really toughened up,
1594
01:28:50,951 --> 01:28:54,079
but as you can see, he's toughened up
in a sort of negative way
1595
01:28:54,497 --> 01:28:55,998
and frustration is high
1596
01:28:58,417 --> 01:29:00,294
and represents...
1597
01:29:00,377 --> 01:29:03,923
Every platoon, every company
was undermanned by January, February.
1598
01:29:05,007 --> 01:29:08,385
Been a lot of wounded being shipped out.
A lot of people went to the rear.
1599
01:29:08,469 --> 01:29:12,014
So we were carrying, you know,
two men on foxholes all night.
1600
01:29:12,097 --> 01:29:15,184
Sometimes we'd be up half the night.
1601
01:29:15,601 --> 01:29:18,771
-I just don't give a flying fuck anymore.
-Right.
1602
01:29:23,150 --> 01:29:26,403
Well, here you see King
putting out a claymore mine
1603
01:29:26,487 --> 01:29:29,782
and you see an ambush patrol
going out at the edge of night.
1604
01:29:29,865 --> 01:29:32,910
Near... For night ambush.
1605
01:29:33,827 --> 01:29:35,829
And people are pretty down here.
1606
01:29:35,913 --> 01:29:39,542
King is going home any day. He's pissed off
because he's still out in the bush.
1607
01:29:39,625 --> 01:29:43,587
You know, he should be back in the rear
at this point. He's got, I think, 10 days left.
1608
01:29:43,671 --> 01:29:45,673
What's the matter with you, man?
1609
01:29:46,131 --> 01:29:48,217
How come you ain't writing nobody?
1610
01:29:48,634 --> 01:29:50,302
What about your folks?
1611
01:29:51,387 --> 01:29:53,639
That grandma you was telling me about?
1612
01:29:55,307 --> 01:29:56,308
Girl?
1613
01:29:56,392 --> 01:29:58,894
I sense that Chris has changed.
1614
01:29:59,270 --> 01:30:02,606
He doesn't need to write,
doesn't want to write anymore.
1615
01:30:03,023 --> 01:30:05,859
Doesn't believe anymore.
That must trouble him.
1616
01:30:07,820 --> 01:30:10,823
You been smoking too much of this shit,
troop.
1617
01:30:12,324 --> 01:30:16,495
Grass puts you in another head.
Changes your reality.
1618
01:30:20,291 --> 01:30:23,752
Very rarely would we smoke in the field,
I think once or twice, like this,
1619
01:30:23,836 --> 01:30:26,213
but it was an extreme circumstance.
1620
01:30:28,257 --> 01:30:31,427
Just keep your pecker hard
and your powder dry,
1621
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:33,095
and the world will turn.
1622
01:30:33,178 --> 01:30:34,763
"The world will turn."
1623
01:30:34,847 --> 01:30:39,351
I think it's an expression we got
probably from Mexico,
1624
01:30:39,435 --> 01:30:40,853
a mezcal bottle.
1625
01:30:41,854 --> 01:30:43,564
The worm inside the bottle.
1626
01:30:45,024 --> 01:30:46,317
Things change.
1627
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,902
...making up the rules any way they want.
1628
01:30:48,986 --> 01:30:52,531
So what do we do?
Sit in the middle and suck on it.
1629
01:30:54,366 --> 01:30:57,953
Charlie continues to be an idealist
in a situation that...
1630
01:30:59,538 --> 01:31:02,625
I don't know.
Why do we have idealism in war?
1631
01:31:02,708 --> 01:31:04,209
I don't know. It's insane.
1632
01:31:05,252 --> 01:31:07,004
It's a no-win proposition.
1633
01:31:09,715 --> 01:31:12,384
And why do we dramatize it?
And why do we like it? There's drama.
1634
01:31:12,468 --> 01:31:15,804
Hey, King, collect up your shit.
Your orders just come through.
1635
01:31:15,888 --> 01:31:17,598
Reality is that there's very little idealism.
1636
01:31:17,681 --> 01:31:19,683
What do you need, a written invitation,
for Christ's sake?
1637
01:31:19,767 --> 01:31:22,394
Mostly functional.
1638
01:31:22,811 --> 01:31:25,105
The lifers have made a mistake.
1639
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:27,608
Turning the knobs at Auschwitz,
So to speak.
1640
01:31:28,108 --> 01:31:31,236
You got 10 minutes to make
the last fucking chopper out of here, man...
1641
01:31:32,279 --> 01:31:34,323
Everybody's pissed.
He got the chopper out.
1642
01:31:34,406 --> 01:31:38,118
A late-night lift into town, or something,
and you'd get out.
1643
01:31:38,202 --> 01:31:39,745
That's great, King. I'm happy for you, man.
1644
01:31:39,828 --> 01:31:41,830
-You take it on home for me, okay?
-Yeah.
1645
01:31:41,914 --> 01:31:43,040
You got my address.
1646
01:31:43,123 --> 01:31:45,334
โIt's a nice look in Charlie's eyes.
Really going to...
1647
01:31:45,417 --> 01:31:48,504
He has a friend in life.
That's a hard thing to get.
1648
01:31:48,587 --> 01:31:52,174
He's gonna miss this man, Fitzgerald.
He's going back to Tennessee.
1649
01:31:53,008 --> 01:31:54,551
Humboldt, Tennessee.
1650
01:31:55,636 --> 01:31:58,597
Remember now, take it easy.
Don't think too much.
1651
01:31:58,681 --> 01:32:00,099
Like a mother.
1652
01:32:00,432 --> 01:32:04,269
Remember, ain't no such thing
as a coward out here. Don't mean nothing.
1653
01:32:04,478 --> 01:32:05,729
My man.
1654
01:32:08,107 --> 01:32:09,441
Power handshake.
1655
01:32:10,109 --> 01:32:11,652
But it was felt.
1656
01:32:13,946 --> 01:32:15,155
Gonna miss a guy like that.
1657
01:32:15,239 --> 01:32:18,659
You don't ever get in that same situation
in the States, you know?
1658
01:32:19,785 --> 01:32:22,788
Sometimes you did cross skin...
1659
01:32:24,123 --> 01:32:25,124
Racial barriers.
1660
01:32:26,041 --> 01:32:27,209
I'm pretty fucked up, Sarge!
1661
01:32:27,292 --> 01:32:30,963
And it was the best, that relationship,
1662
01:32:31,088 --> 01:32:34,091
without any of the ideology
and the bullshit.
1663
01:32:35,134 --> 01:32:39,471
A lot of guys would put mosquito repellent
on their feet, like Junior just did,
1664
01:32:39,930 --> 01:32:41,390
and get the hell out of the field,
1665
01:32:41,473 --> 01:32:43,392
because they sensed
some shit was coming.
1666
01:32:43,475 --> 01:32:45,102
So their feet would swell up.
1667
01:32:45,185 --> 01:32:48,313
...I catch you spraying
skeeter repellent on your fucking feet,
1668
01:32:48,397 --> 01:32:50,899
I'm gonna court-martial your nigger ass.
1669
01:32:51,817 --> 01:32:54,069
Well, then court-martial me,
motherfucker!
1670
01:32:54,153 --> 01:32:56,947
Fuck my ass.
Send me to fucking Long Binh!
1671
01:32:57,489 --> 01:32:59,366
You do your fucking worst!
1672
01:32:59,450 --> 01:33:02,870
You white folks have got
your last klick out of Junior!
1673
01:33:03,495 --> 01:33:07,332
-O'Neill, get me that centipede.
-Sergeant?
1674
01:33:07,666 --> 01:33:11,170
Yeah, that long, hairy,
red and black bastard
1675
01:33:11,253 --> 01:33:13,255
I found in the ammo crate.
1676
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,134
I'm gonna put it in this boy's crotch,
see if he can walk.
1677
01:33:17,217 --> 01:33:18,927
I remember now.
1678
01:33:19,011 --> 01:33:21,221
Hey. Now hold up, man!
1679
01:33:21,555 --> 01:33:23,599
You just hold up and wait, all right?
1680
01:33:23,682 --> 01:33:26,268
Fuck it! I'll walk! I'll fucking walk, man!
1681
01:33:26,351 --> 01:33:29,563
Fucking pussy, man.
Hey, Sarge, I got to have him in my hole?
1682
01:33:29,646 --> 01:33:30,773
Yeah.
1683
01:33:31,982 --> 01:33:33,859
Barnes seems a little drunk here.
1684
01:33:35,527 --> 01:33:38,489
But anything you could do
to keep a guy in the field, you had to.
1685
01:33:38,572 --> 01:33:40,449
I can't take it no more.
1686
01:33:40,532 --> 01:33:41,909
We were short on men.
1687
01:33:42,993 --> 01:33:45,412
Even Sergeant's trying to get out here.
1688
01:33:45,496 --> 01:33:48,874
Bob, I got Elias' R&R.
It's coming up in three days, here.
1689
01:33:48,957 --> 01:33:52,002
I was thinking about going to Hawaii,
maybe see Patsy.
1690
01:33:52,294 --> 01:33:54,463
Hey, Bob, come on, I never asked you
for a fucking thing over here.
1691
01:33:54,546 --> 01:33:56,757
You know, I was thinking maybe...
Well, to be honest with you,
1692
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:58,926
I was hoping you'd put me
on that chopper with King out of here.
1693
01:33:59,009 --> 01:34:00,761
What do you say, chief-a-rooney?
1694
01:34:01,094 --> 01:34:02,721
I can't do that for you, Red.
1695
01:34:02,805 --> 01:34:05,098
We need every swinging dick in the field,
and you know that.
1696
01:34:05,182 --> 01:34:07,434
Hey, Bob, come on.
You can talk to me, for Christ's sake.
1697
01:34:07,518 --> 01:34:09,478
All I'm asking for is three fucking days,
here.
1698
01:34:09,561 --> 01:34:12,689
I am talking to you, Red,
and I'm telling you "no."
1699
01:34:12,898 --> 01:34:15,150
So get back in your foxhole.
1700
01:34:15,234 --> 01:34:18,445
Bob, I got a bad feeling on this one,
all right?
1701
01:34:19,321 --> 01:34:21,448
I mean, I got a bad feeling.
1702
01:34:22,282 --> 01:34:24,910
I don't think I'm gonna make it out of here.
1703
01:34:24,993 --> 01:34:27,621
You understand what I'm saying to you?
1704
01:34:27,996 --> 01:34:30,499
Everybody got to die sometime, Red.
1705
01:34:30,916 --> 01:34:32,793
Hard lines.
1706
01:34:33,418 --> 01:34:35,420
There's something very pathetic
about Sgt. O'Neill.
1707
01:34:35,504 --> 01:34:38,257
He's always a bully,
pushing other people around, and...
1708
01:34:39,758 --> 01:34:43,011
In deciding what to do with this character,
you're gonna see, I...
1709
01:34:43,095 --> 01:34:46,014
Instead of killing him off,
I guess would be the typical thing
1710
01:34:46,098 --> 01:34:48,600
in a platoon movie would be...
1711
01:34:48,684 --> 01:34:52,479
I reversed it and let him live,
but with a different set of consequences.
1712
01:34:53,480 --> 01:34:57,067
Goodbye, motherfuckers!
1713
01:34:57,860 --> 01:35:00,237
But I love that exit. It's so cool.
1714
01:35:00,904 --> 01:35:02,114
Straight up.
1715
01:35:09,496 --> 01:35:11,540
Where's that fucking ambush?
1716
01:35:12,249 --> 01:35:16,461
They ain't even waiting till later.
It's fucking coming now, man.
1717
01:35:16,879 --> 01:35:18,839
Right fucking now.
1718
01:35:23,552 --> 01:35:26,847
You know, Junior,
some of the things we done, man...
1719
01:35:27,723 --> 01:35:29,349
I don't feel like we done something wrong.
1720
01:35:29,433 --> 01:35:33,979
I always loved this act of contrition
on the part of Bunny,
1721
01:35:34,062 --> 01:35:37,482
as if he isn't quite able to put his finger
1722
01:35:37,566 --> 01:35:39,401
on what his concept of hell is like,
1723
01:35:39,484 --> 01:35:41,570
but he certainly feels the flames of it.
1724
01:35:42,487 --> 01:35:47,993
I love this existential explanation
of his philosophy,
1725
01:35:48,327 --> 01:35:51,413
which is when you die,
you don't feel it anyway,
1726
01:35:51,496 --> 01:35:53,665
So you can do anything you want
while you're alive.
1727
01:35:53,749 --> 01:35:55,167
It makes sense.
1728
01:35:55,667 --> 01:35:58,837
It makes sense for an American teenager.
1729
01:36:01,048 --> 01:36:02,466
Don't you worry, Junior.
1730
01:36:02,549 --> 01:36:05,552
You're hanging with Audie Murphy here,
my man.
1731
01:36:07,512 --> 01:36:08,931
Bravo Three, Bravo Three...
1732
01:36:09,014 --> 01:36:12,851
This could have been even scarier.
I didn't have the right light,
1733
01:36:12,935 --> 01:36:14,478
but this is supposed to be
the edge of night.
1734
01:36:14,561 --> 01:36:16,688
Okay, Three Alpha, now calm down, son.
1735
01:36:16,772 --> 01:36:19,566
I'll get you a fire mission ASAP.
Smoke will be first.
1736
01:36:19,650 --> 01:36:21,902
Lieutenant's dead.
Radioman looks dead, sir.
1737
01:36:21,985 --> 01:36:24,613
This could be
a potentially very scary conversation.
1738
01:36:24,696 --> 01:36:26,782
I'm not sure I succeeded as a director,
1739
01:36:26,865 --> 01:36:31,286
in that I just wanted to feel the horror
of the ambush through the radio.
1740
01:36:31,370 --> 01:36:35,123
Never see the disembodied
kind of effective horror
1741
01:36:35,207 --> 01:36:39,878
of an ambush,
a platoon being wiped out, overrun.
1742
01:36:40,545 --> 01:36:41,964
But I missed it.
1743
01:36:42,047 --> 01:36:44,967
Here, Barnes has given the Lieutenant
a little grin.
1744
01:36:45,050 --> 01:36:47,344
I love that focus pull.
1745
01:36:47,886 --> 01:36:52,599
But Barnes is digging
the oncoming tension.
1746
01:36:52,808 --> 01:36:54,643
Three Alpha Six. How about those rounds...
1747
01:36:54,726 --> 01:36:58,730
Now, obviously, the ambush is gone.
They're not responding.
1748
01:37:00,899 --> 01:37:03,568
This should have been, really,
later in the day. I just...
1749
01:37:03,652 --> 01:37:05,654
Given the budget we had
and the conditions,
1750
01:37:05,737 --> 01:37:07,489
we just had to grab what we could
when we could.
1751
01:37:07,572 --> 01:37:08,699
We were running out of...
1752
01:37:08,782 --> 01:37:12,369
This was towards the end of the schedule
and we were running out of time.
1753
01:37:20,419 --> 01:37:21,420
Shit.
1754
01:37:26,591 --> 01:37:31,471
In struggling to deal with
how do we light this huge battle at night
1755
01:37:31,972 --> 01:37:34,474
with a limited amount of time and money...
1756
01:37:34,558 --> 01:37:36,852
We didn't have the money
for the lighting, certainly.
1757
01:37:36,935 --> 01:37:40,397
We decided to go au naturel,
in the sense that we...
1758
01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:43,859
In Vietnam,
I remember everything was lit by trip flare,
1759
01:37:43,942 --> 01:37:47,529
by night flares and artillery.
1760
01:37:47,612 --> 01:37:51,616
So Bob Richardson, our cameraman,
Just adventurously decided
1761
01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:54,369
to light the whole thing with flares.
1762
01:38:01,126 --> 01:38:02,878
Okay. Ready and...
1763
01:38:02,961 --> 01:38:05,047
Here he trips a flare. This is important.
1764
01:38:05,130 --> 01:38:08,467
This sets off the ambush.
We know that they're out there now.
1765
01:38:09,134 --> 01:38:12,929
And at the same time, you're gonna see
that it's an American soldier
1766
01:38:13,013 --> 01:38:15,682
who comes back into their purview.
1767
01:38:15,766 --> 01:38:18,185
And they're shocked, because
he's coming right from the ambush.
1768
01:38:18,268 --> 01:38:19,561
This happened to us.
1769
01:38:19,644 --> 01:38:22,230
It's one of the most frightening things,
is to see one of your own men
1770
01:38:22,314 --> 01:38:24,900
fleeing naked, almost naked,
through the jungle,
1771
01:38:24,983 --> 01:38:29,237
and throwing away his equipment
and terrified at what he saw out there.
1772
01:38:29,404 --> 01:38:31,823
It makes you wanna run out of your foxhole
and leave it.
1773
01:38:31,907 --> 01:38:34,743
You know, we're not superheroes here.
1774
01:38:34,826 --> 01:38:36,203
This is a very frightening position,
1775
01:38:36,286 --> 01:38:37,662
โcause you're isolated
from your other troops.
1776
01:38:37,746 --> 01:38:39,372
You're only two men in the foxhole,
first of all.
1777
01:38:39,456 --> 01:38:41,958
That's very low.
You should be, like, three, four men.
1778
01:38:42,042 --> 01:38:45,587
And you're lonely and you're scared.
You don't know what's out there.
1779
01:38:49,674 --> 01:38:50,967
That's Corey Glover.
1780
01:38:51,051 --> 01:38:53,887
He became the lead singer
of The Living Color.
1781
01:38:53,970 --> 01:38:58,016
A very, very sweet-voiced young man.
1782
01:38:58,642 --> 01:39:02,020
Plays a nice friend of Chris' called Francis
in the movie.
1783
01:39:03,396 --> 01:39:05,607
That's the sound, I believe, of mortars.
1784
01:39:05,690 --> 01:39:08,276
It could be mortars
or it could be flares popping.
1785
01:39:08,527 --> 01:39:13,156
But that empty, hollow thud,
it was an interesting sound.
1786
01:39:13,740 --> 01:39:15,158
Nothing. Silence.
1787
01:39:16,243 --> 01:39:18,161
There goes another trip flare.
1788
01:39:18,703 --> 01:39:20,789
And a claymore goes, it looks like.
1789
01:39:21,039 --> 01:39:23,291
No, it's an American soldier.
It's very confusing.
1790
01:39:23,375 --> 01:39:26,002
That's the American soldier
I was talking about.
1791
01:39:26,211 --> 01:39:29,548
That's scary. He says, "Don't shoot.โ
He's speaking English.
1792
01:39:30,841 --> 01:39:32,801
It's the ambush. Over here, man. Hurry.
1793
01:39:32,884 --> 01:39:34,803
You can see it's all lit by flares.
1794
01:39:35,887 --> 01:39:38,014
It goes dark, goes light, goes dark.
1795
01:39:39,391 --> 01:39:41,184
He comes in. He smashes somebody.
1796
01:39:41,268 --> 01:39:43,395
Hundreds of them, moving this way!
1797
01:39:43,687 --> 01:39:45,856
Bloody. Like football injuries.
1798
01:39:45,939 --> 01:39:48,066
They wiped us out, man!
We didn't have a chance!
1799
01:39:48,150 --> 01:39:49,776
-Where's the CP?
-Back there.
1800
01:39:49,860 --> 01:39:52,654
Can't hear what he's saying.
He's just screeching. He's terrified.
1801
01:39:52,737 --> 01:39:53,822
They ain't stopping for shit!
1802
01:39:53,905 --> 01:39:58,451
There's a lot of rumor like that. It hits
the radio, guys come up, they tell you stuff.
1803
01:39:58,952 --> 01:40:02,664
"Should I get out of there?โ Now, Charlie
displays a hell of a lot of courage here,
1804
01:40:02,747 --> 01:40:04,332
Just staying, sticking it out.
1805
01:40:04,666 --> 01:40:07,002
Tendency would want to be to split.
1806
01:40:09,087 --> 01:40:11,214
There, there. You see the NVA over there.
1807
01:40:13,925 --> 01:40:17,429
He blows his claymore. This is...
He blows them maybe too fast.
1808
01:40:17,512 --> 01:40:18,930
He blows all three.
1809
01:40:19,806 --> 01:40:22,934
Puts up a lot of fire.
Now he's revealed his position, though.
1810
01:40:26,730 --> 01:40:28,607
Nice tracers on those...
1811
01:40:31,026 --> 01:40:34,779
Tracer effects were very expensive for us.
We tried to use them sparingly.
1812
01:40:34,863 --> 01:40:36,239
They got spotted, you can see that.
1813
01:40:36,323 --> 01:40:39,242
They got some kind
of a concussion grenade, I think.
1814
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:41,828
Knocked the shit out of him.
That's a good shot.
1815
01:40:41,912 --> 01:40:44,247
Knocked the shit out of him, but he's okay.
1816
01:40:44,623 --> 01:40:46,917
But they've been spotted.
They know where the bunker is.
1817
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:48,752
No. Hold it. Hold it.
1818
01:40:49,377 --> 01:40:52,797
Here's a whistle. Something weird
is going on. There must be more men.
1819
01:40:52,964 --> 01:40:55,592
See the flares
bouncing off the trees, there?
1820
01:40:56,092 --> 01:40:57,636
Great shadow effects.
1821
01:40:59,596 --> 01:41:04,142
NVA on the loudspeaker.
That's even more terrifying to the mind.
1822
01:41:05,435 --> 01:41:07,812
I can't say I ever heard it myself.
1823
01:41:08,063 --> 01:41:11,608
He knows they're in the hole and to get out
because they're gonna get bombed.
1824
01:41:11,691 --> 01:41:13,485
Figures there's an RPG rocket
coming in on him.
1825
01:41:13,568 --> 01:41:14,903
This is a great shot, getting out of...
1826
01:41:14,986 --> 01:41:18,323
Look at the way he distorts in the shadows.
1827
01:41:19,074 --> 01:41:22,244
But he's smart to get out. You don't wanna
be in the hole once you've been spotted,
1828
01:41:22,327 --> 01:41:25,372
when they got heavy, superior firepower
on you.
1829
01:41:25,997 --> 01:41:27,999
And there it goes. That's an RPG.
1830
01:41:29,084 --> 01:41:30,252
I shot that shot.
1831
01:41:30,669 --> 01:41:34,214
I stood right in there with a glass shield
and did it. That was great.
1832
01:41:34,881 --> 01:41:37,842
Blew the whole bunker. That is scary.
1833
01:41:38,468 --> 01:41:40,762
RPGs are dangerous.
1834
01:41:40,971 --> 01:41:44,557
This is a little melodramatic.
Private Charlie goes nuts.
1835
01:41:44,641 --> 01:41:48,144
He goes storming back into the...
NVA are sweeping over the hole.
1836
01:41:48,228 --> 01:41:50,689
Charlie goes right out there
and takes them on.
1837
01:41:50,939 --> 01:41:54,442
It is John Wayne.
I can't say that I was even close to that.
1838
01:41:57,821 --> 01:42:01,866
But he's incensed. He's not...
He's on another planet right now.
1839
01:42:02,492 --> 01:42:04,869
And Francis shares it.
1840
01:42:04,953 --> 01:42:08,290
You know, he gets swept up in it
and they go in there.
1841
01:42:08,581 --> 01:42:10,750
And not only does he go back into the hole,
1842
01:42:10,834 --> 01:42:14,337
but Charlie goes nuts
and goes down the hill and after the NVA.
1843
01:42:14,421 --> 01:42:18,133
He's gone. He's gone. He's out of his mind.
1844
01:42:19,134 --> 01:42:20,760
It's possible.
1845
01:42:21,886 --> 01:42:25,390
In another position, Bunny is out of...
1846
01:42:25,849 --> 01:42:30,228
He's down to his last shells.
He's got a shotgun. Junior's freaked out.
1847
01:42:30,729 --> 01:42:32,147
He's really scared.
1848
01:42:33,023 --> 01:42:35,817
Bunny's gone. Junior wants out.
1849
01:42:36,151 --> 01:42:38,987
And here he goes. I don't blame him.
1850
01:42:39,195 --> 01:42:43,575
But he... It's dark
and he runs right into a fucking tree.
1851
01:42:43,908 --> 01:42:45,327
Knocks himself out.
1852
01:42:45,410 --> 01:42:48,913
Bunny gets it right in the chest.
1853
01:42:52,876 --> 01:42:54,252
And so does Junior.
1854
01:42:56,004 --> 01:42:57,339
It's a bayonet.
1855
01:42:58,673 --> 01:43:01,176
It was hand-to-hand
that night on the bunker,
1856
01:43:01,259 --> 01:43:03,595
on the perimeter. So...
1857
01:43:04,262 --> 01:43:07,015
Shovels were used.
It was down to the wire.
1858
01:43:07,140 --> 01:43:08,933
C Company was...
1859
01:43:09,601 --> 01:43:11,978
Entrenching tools were used.
1860
01:43:12,354 --> 01:43:15,065
This is Barnes. He's fired a LAW.
1861
01:43:15,148 --> 01:43:18,193
A shoulder-fired... Shoulder rocket.
1862
01:43:18,651 --> 01:43:20,612
And he's trying to retake the perimeter.
1863
01:43:20,695 --> 01:43:23,948
There's McGinley.
He's... Sgt. O'Neill is scared,
1864
01:43:24,032 --> 01:43:28,411
and he buries himself underneath
a dead body, and he's missed.
1865
01:43:28,620 --> 01:43:31,623
The NVA come, sweep past him,
1866
01:43:32,248 --> 01:43:35,293
and they leave him for dead,
and he makes it.
1867
01:43:41,091 --> 01:43:44,177
So, reluctantly, I stepped in as the Major,
played him.
1868
01:43:44,260 --> 01:43:45,637
That was a younger me.
1869
01:43:46,471 --> 01:43:48,973
I look so much younger.
1870
01:43:49,557 --> 01:43:53,395
But about the right age for a major
in the bunker, Central Command.
1871
01:43:53,478 --> 01:43:56,398
There's my staff sergeant.
He's a big, fat drunk.
1872
01:43:56,481 --> 01:43:58,358
And the NVA are in the perimeter,
you can see.
1873
01:43:58,441 --> 01:44:00,318
They got in, as they did that night.
1874
01:44:00,402 --> 01:44:03,363
And they have a satchel charge,
and he's a suicide mission.
1875
01:44:03,446 --> 01:44:05,657
There he goes, and there I go.
1876
01:44:06,199 --> 01:44:07,826
That's a big one.
1877
01:44:08,034 --> 01:44:11,121
There, Major's bunker is all gone.
This is amazing.
1878
01:44:11,204 --> 01:44:14,082
The Captain is stunned.
He is now on his own.
1879
01:44:15,125 --> 01:44:17,127
Central Command is disorganized.
1880
01:44:17,335 --> 01:44:20,839
This is a platoon sergeant.
They're all confused. That's the Lieutenant.
1881
01:44:20,922 --> 01:44:24,092
Everything's breaking down.
Chaos. Disorder.
1882
01:44:24,175 --> 01:44:25,510
Get him in!
1883
01:44:27,303 --> 01:44:29,389
They don't know who's alive, who's dead.
1884
01:44:29,472 --> 01:44:30,890
They're coming through all over!
1885
01:44:30,974 --> 01:44:33,268
Lieutenant is stunned
to hear that Barnes may be dead,
1886
01:44:33,351 --> 01:44:37,647
So he doesn't have any support
from his staff NCO.
1887
01:44:39,023 --> 01:44:41,401
He has to make his own decision. He's lost.
1888
01:44:41,609 --> 01:44:42,735
He wants to pull back.
1889
01:44:42,819 --> 01:44:45,530
The Captain tells him,
"Where are you gonna pull back to?"
1890
01:44:45,613 --> 01:44:49,159
It's a good point.
This is an amazing shot, lit by a flare.
1891
01:44:49,742 --> 01:44:54,414
You see quite a huge perimeter,
staging of action.
1892
01:44:55,206 --> 01:44:58,877
Simultaneous artillery flare.
1893
01:44:59,043 --> 01:45:01,171
NVA are overrunning here.
1894
01:45:01,963 --> 01:45:03,715
This is a little...
1895
01:45:04,549 --> 01:45:07,469
Quite a big shot. I probably... It's overdone.
1896
01:45:07,552 --> 01:45:11,431
You know, they didn't overrun it
quite this way, they'd be further apart,
1897
01:45:11,514 --> 01:45:14,559
but you wouldn't be able to get it on film.
You would be all over the place.
1898
01:45:14,642 --> 01:45:18,313
So I had to concentrize the perimeter.
1899
01:45:18,396 --> 01:45:22,358
Make more bodies visible
than would be normal in a battle.
1900
01:45:22,525 --> 01:45:26,571
Here's a great shot, too. Really big.
Looks like the Civil War, almost.
1901
01:45:27,447 --> 01:45:31,034
The Captain is beside himself
and he is gonna call in his air strike
1902
01:45:31,117 --> 01:45:33,620
on his perimeter. He has no choice.
1903
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,164
For the record, it's my call.
1904
01:45:36,247 --> 01:45:39,042
Dump everything you've got left
on my pos.
1905
01:45:39,125 --> 01:45:43,463
I say again,
expend all remaining in my perimeter.
1906
01:45:43,963 --> 01:45:46,382
It's a lovely fucking war. Bravo Six out.
1907
01:45:46,466 --> 01:45:50,386
So, they're coming down now.
I think it would be a Phantom or...
1908
01:45:51,471 --> 01:45:55,016
Yep. Here they come, out of the sky.
This is a process shot.
1909
01:45:55,475 --> 01:45:57,852
We had a fly-over by...
1910
01:45:57,936 --> 01:46:01,314
No, this is an actual jet
from the Filipino Air Force.
1911
01:46:01,814 --> 01:46:05,944
And Barnes is really into it. He's got
his entrenching tool and he is taking it on.
1912
01:46:07,028 --> 01:46:11,115
He's insane.
He gets shot in the thigh. Keeps going.
1913
01:46:12,033 --> 01:46:16,371
And he's saved here, actually, by Charlie,
who comes roaring down into his foxhole.
1914
01:46:16,454 --> 01:46:18,081
Charlie's gone nuts, too.
1915
01:46:18,498 --> 01:46:20,583
But Barnes doesn't seem to even know
what's going on.
1916
01:46:20,667 --> 01:46:24,462
He goes right back to work,
grabs another NVA and starts killing him.
1917
01:46:25,171 --> 01:46:29,342
Charlie yells for Barnes,
trying to help him, trying to...
1918
01:46:29,425 --> 01:46:32,053
Or is he? Barnes doesn't pay any attention.
1919
01:46:32,136 --> 01:46:35,306
Could be an NVA,
doesn't know the difference, goes for him.
1920
01:46:36,641 --> 01:46:39,310
There it is. That's the war, right in his eyes.
1921
01:46:39,727 --> 01:46:44,274
And Charlie is saved by his own airplanes.
1922
01:46:44,357 --> 01:46:46,484
Bomb goes off on the perimeter,
1923
01:46:46,651 --> 01:46:49,445
blasts Barnes out of there, blasts
the whole damn perimeter, takes it to hell.
1924
01:46:49,445 --> 01:46:49,529
blasts Barnes out of there, blasts
the whole damn perimeter, takes it to hell.
1925
01:46:52,490 --> 01:46:53,908
Both sides.
1926
01:46:55,326 --> 01:46:57,745
Went to an early form
of black-and-white here
1927
01:46:57,829 --> 01:47:00,957
and brought back the color
as Charlie's consciousness returned.
1928
01:47:02,667 --> 01:47:06,129
That dawn was miraculous
to us on the perimeter,
1929
01:47:06,212 --> 01:47:08,089
those of us who'd survived.
1930
01:47:08,798 --> 01:47:13,094
And I remember the concept
of somehow the deer being there,
1931
01:47:13,177 --> 01:47:16,055
that I would wake
and there would be a deer,
1932
01:47:16,139 --> 01:47:18,266
some sign of fresh life out there.
1933
01:47:19,017 --> 01:47:21,060
It's the first thing he'd see.
1934
01:47:23,980 --> 01:47:26,858
Getting that Filipino deer
to do anything was tough.
1935
01:47:27,317 --> 01:47:29,235
They don't have many deer out there.
1936
01:48:20,578 --> 01:48:23,873
The next morning
was probably the most vivid for me,
1937
01:48:23,956 --> 01:48:26,959
โcause we went out
and there must have been
1938
01:48:27,251 --> 01:48:30,546
500, 700 dead North Vietnamese.
1939
01:48:30,630 --> 01:48:34,717
We put them into pits, mass graves,
1940
01:48:35,093 --> 01:48:39,305
and we had about 25 dead
1941
01:48:39,389 --> 01:48:41,891
and 175 wounded of our own.
1942
01:48:41,974 --> 01:48:46,062
So about 200 guys went down
out of 600, 700.
1943
01:48:46,813 --> 01:48:49,607
Significant casualty rate that night.
1944
01:49:06,708 --> 01:49:09,043
So, Charlie's tracking Barnes.
1945
01:49:09,961 --> 01:49:11,295
He owes him one.
1946
01:49:23,474 --> 01:49:24,976
Get me a medic.
1947
01:49:27,812 --> 01:49:29,188
Go on, boy!
1948
01:49:46,414 --> 01:49:47,415
No hesitation.
1949
01:49:47,498 --> 01:49:48,666
Do it.
1950
01:49:48,833 --> 01:49:50,376
He did it.
1951
01:49:50,460 --> 01:49:54,088
I never shot my sergeant,
So rest assured that...
1952
01:49:55,256 --> 01:49:57,508
My feelings were such that
1953
01:49:58,134 --> 01:50:00,845
I would have shot Lt. Calley,
1954
01:50:01,512 --> 01:50:03,806
if I could have.
1955
01:50:04,182 --> 01:50:06,976
The man who massacred
the people at My Lai.
1956
01:50:08,519 --> 01:50:13,232
But I think Charlie's acting out of
retribution, really, for what he did to Elias.
1957
01:50:18,279 --> 01:50:23,201
And I think Charlie has bitten off
a fairly large responsibility by that action.
1958
01:50:24,035 --> 01:50:26,412
Look down here. Check them out.
1959
01:50:27,914 --> 01:50:30,708
Come on, EImo. Move your flea-bitten ass!
1960
01:50:32,877 --> 01:50:35,129
Once you become a Killer like that,
1961
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,007
it haunts you for the rest of your life.
1962
01:50:38,633 --> 01:50:40,718
Can you walk, huh?
1963
01:50:42,053 --> 01:50:43,304
We had guys, of course, like...
1964
01:50:43,387 --> 01:50:47,642
The APC units were notorious
for being dirty and for being...
1965
01:50:47,850 --> 01:50:50,603
Having a lot of Nazi memorabilia
1966
01:50:50,686 --> 01:50:53,481
and for scalping VC and NVA.
1967
01:50:53,731 --> 01:50:55,983
So they would come up and support us.
1968
01:50:56,067 --> 01:50:58,486
We were infantry.
They were a little different than us.
1969
01:50:58,569 --> 01:50:59,946
And they were certainly out there.
1970
01:51:00,029 --> 01:51:03,783
Here's a guy who's stabbing himself
in the thigh โcause he's about had it,
1971
01:51:03,866 --> 01:51:07,328
and I don't blame him.
I mean, a lot of guys did that.
1972
01:51:07,411 --> 01:51:09,497
Yeah.
That must have been some fucking fight.
1973
01:51:09,580 --> 01:51:10,748
It was rough.
1974
01:51:11,249 --> 01:51:15,086
The Sergeant, the Cowardly Sergeant,
Bert Lahr, made it out of there.
1975
01:51:15,753 --> 01:51:18,881
The bunch of fucking faggots,
they all left me.
1976
01:51:20,466 --> 01:51:23,845
Here's a guy just took an ear.
Those guys are scalping.
1977
01:51:23,928 --> 01:51:27,139
Well, here's Rhah.
He made it through with his walking stick.
1978
01:51:27,849 --> 01:51:31,686
He's walking around, checking out
the bodies getting scavenged.
1979
01:51:32,770 --> 01:51:34,856
The 25th Infantry there, you see that.
1980
01:51:34,939 --> 01:51:38,734
He finds something,
looks like either opium or heroin,
1981
01:51:39,110 --> 01:51:40,862
off an NVA soldier.
1982
01:51:42,238 --> 01:51:45,950
These are the mass graves
that we buried them in.
1983
01:51:47,827 --> 01:51:49,912
He's going out on morphine.
1984
01:51:50,496 --> 01:51:51,873
That's Charlie.
1985
01:51:59,463 --> 01:52:00,715
Good shot.
1986
01:52:00,798 --> 01:52:04,886
You get a sense of the bodies
and the movement.
1987
01:52:05,636 --> 01:52:09,223
Moving towards the exit.
The helicopter's taking them out.
1988
01:52:09,307 --> 01:52:11,350
There's the... There's Dale Dye.
1989
01:52:11,893 --> 01:52:13,185
It's a true moment for Dale.
1990
01:52:13,269 --> 01:52:16,188
That's where his feelings come out
about his troops
1991
01:52:16,272 --> 01:52:18,149
and his losses.
1992
01:52:23,905 --> 01:52:24,989
Hey, Taylor, that you?
1993
01:52:25,072 --> 01:52:26,532
Francis made it. He didn't think so.
1994
01:52:26,616 --> 01:52:27,617
Hey, Francis.
1995
01:52:27,700 --> 01:52:30,870
-Hey man, how you doing?
-I'm okay. How you doing?
1996
01:52:30,953 --> 01:52:33,080
Fine, man. Just fine. Hey, dig it.
1997
01:52:33,164 --> 01:52:35,750
We two timers, man.
We're gonna get out of here, boy.
1998
01:52:35,833 --> 01:52:39,086
I'm gonna see you in the hospital.
We gonna get high, high...
1999
01:52:39,170 --> 01:52:40,588
Twice wounded and you're out.
2000
01:52:40,671 --> 01:52:44,717
For at least that... I was out for a while,
then I went back in at my own volition.
2001
01:52:45,051 --> 01:52:46,302
Well, that's good.
2002
01:52:46,385 --> 01:52:48,888
Meanwhile, the Cowardly Sergeant,
because there's nobody left,
2003
01:52:48,971 --> 01:52:51,307
now inherits second platoon.
2004
01:52:51,390 --> 01:52:56,187
Which means that inevitably
he will, too, probably meet his match.
2005
01:52:57,355 --> 01:53:01,692
Here goes Francis. Here goes Chris.
And we're out of here.
2006
01:53:02,526 --> 01:53:03,861
Thank God.
2007
01:53:10,618 --> 01:53:12,286
It was sad.
You say goodbye to your friends.
2008
01:53:12,370 --> 01:53:14,038
The last time you see most of them.
2009
01:53:14,121 --> 01:53:16,082
And you're out of there. You're gone.
2010
01:53:16,165 --> 01:53:18,876
You come back, they're either dead
or gone themselves.
2011
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:21,045
It was a very fractured business.
2012
01:53:22,755 --> 01:53:25,675
I remember looking out of that helicopter
as it went away.
2013
01:53:28,886 --> 01:53:32,556
January 15, actually.
I didn't go at this battle,
2014
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:35,101
but I went after this. There's Rhah,
2015
01:53:36,394 --> 01:53:39,355
giving him his Nietzsche trip.
2016
01:53:42,358 --> 01:53:43,693
Bolt of power.
2017
01:53:46,779 --> 01:53:48,447
Decided to go quiet here.
2018
01:53:54,453 --> 01:53:59,083
Great shot of the chopper,
with dust and light glinting off it.
2019
01:53:59,625 --> 01:54:00,960
Slow-mo.
2020
01:54:03,713 --> 01:54:06,257
Lot of dust through the chopper blades.
2021
01:54:13,848 --> 01:54:15,474
A lot of dead.
2022
01:54:17,018 --> 01:54:20,438
There's Samuel Barber.
That sort of sums it up.
2023
01:54:21,355 --> 01:54:24,775
Elegy. Good tree.
2024
01:54:26,777 --> 01:54:29,238
Wiping the pit.
2025
01:54:31,115 --> 01:54:33,826
I think now, looking back,
2026
01:54:34,618 --> 01:54:38,581
we did not fight the enemy.
We fought ourselves.
2027
01:54:38,956 --> 01:54:41,459
And the enemy was in us.
2028
01:54:43,544 --> 01:54:45,588
The war is over for me now,
2029
01:54:45,921 --> 01:54:49,633
but it will always be there
the rest of my days
2030
01:54:50,259 --> 01:54:52,303
as I'm sure Elias will be,
2031
01:54:52,762 --> 01:54:56,849
fighting with Barnes for what Rhah called
possession of my soul.
2032
01:54:58,517 --> 01:55:00,144
There are times since,
2033
01:55:00,394 --> 01:55:04,190
I've felt like the child
born of those two fathers.
2034
01:55:06,984 --> 01:55:08,903
But, be that as it may,
2035
01:55:09,153 --> 01:55:10,905
those of us who did make it
2036
01:55:10,988 --> 01:55:13,324
have an obligation to build again,
2037
01:55:13,908 --> 01:55:16,202
to teach to others what we know,
2038
01:55:17,411 --> 01:55:20,122
and to try with what's left of our lives
2039
01:55:20,206 --> 01:55:23,709
to find a goodness and meaning
to this life.
2040
01:55:24,376 --> 01:55:28,089
There is no enemy. The enemy is in you.
2041
01:55:47,066 --> 01:55:51,529
I hadn't seen this in a while.
I missed it from the '40s movies.
2042
01:55:51,612 --> 01:55:55,491
So I wanted to pay a little tribute
to the actors,
2043
01:55:55,574 --> 01:56:00,287
because it's hard to remember every name
with so many male faces in the movie.
2044
01:56:01,372 --> 01:56:03,582
This was a little special thing for me.
2045
01:56:04,041 --> 01:56:05,668
These guys really worked.
2046
01:56:05,751 --> 01:56:08,921
They really went through
that basic training in the jungle
2047
01:56:09,004 --> 01:56:12,133
and put up with a lot of hard days
and nights.
2048
01:56:29,733 --> 01:56:33,112
But they bonded, and they were a platoon.
2049
01:56:50,045 --> 01:56:54,008
We shot the whole thing in the Philippines
in about 60 days.
2050
01:56:54,758 --> 01:56:56,093
It was...
2051
01:56:56,760 --> 01:57:00,014
Having heard all the stories
about what Francis Coppola went through
2052
01:57:00,097 --> 01:57:04,143
with Apocalypse Now, we really tried
to get in and out as fast as we could.
2053
01:57:04,852 --> 01:57:07,646
So we shot around and we shot hard.
2054
01:57:07,730 --> 01:57:10,441
We shot grueling hours
2055
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,986
and made it in and out.
We came in on budget.
2056
01:57:14,445 --> 01:57:18,782
In the editing, we had no problem.
We cut the couple...
2057
01:57:19,241 --> 01:57:23,871
We cut within a few months and everyone
who saw the film immediately reacted to it.
2058
01:57:23,954 --> 01:57:28,959
It wasn't like a lot of refinements went on
or changes in the editing.
2059
01:57:29,043 --> 01:57:31,587
It was smooth.
2060
01:57:31,962 --> 01:57:36,550
And it was just the mood in the country.
There was a great mood to receive
2061
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,137
another truth about Vietnam.
2062
01:57:40,596 --> 01:57:42,890
It certainly was a long time coming.
2063
01:57:43,641 --> 01:57:45,392
1986.
2064
01:57:45,476 --> 01:57:48,938
The last men really left in '71, '72 and '73.
2065
01:57:49,021 --> 01:57:51,607
I mean, it was 15, 20 years.
2066
01:57:51,982 --> 01:57:56,570
And the picture not only
swept the United States,
2067
01:57:56,654 --> 01:57:58,822
but it swept the world, which was amazing.
2068
01:57:58,906 --> 01:58:00,950
The world picked up on it.
2069
01:58:01,033 --> 01:58:03,911
And it was a tremendous,
2070
01:58:04,745 --> 01:58:06,538
tremendous,
2071
01:58:08,791 --> 01:58:10,292
respect for the veteran,
2072
01:58:10,376 --> 01:58:13,337
and it was a long time coming.
2073
01:59:46,597 --> 01:59:47,598
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