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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,502 --> 00:00:03,382 ‐Look at that. ‐What is that? 2 00:00:03,378 --> 00:00:04,548 THOMAS: There's a helicopter coming in. 3 00:00:04,546 --> 00:00:05,876 That dude's hovering right there. 4 00:00:05,881 --> 00:00:08,381 THOMAS: I think somebody's watching us right now. 5 00:00:08,383 --> 00:00:10,513 There's something going on out here. 6 00:00:10,511 --> 00:00:12,931 TRAVIS: What in the world? There's no sign of struggle. 7 00:00:12,930 --> 00:00:14,010 It's just dead. 8 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:16,184 ‐(beeping) ‐The meter is going nuts. 9 00:00:16,183 --> 00:00:17,353 All the frequencies are excited. 10 00:00:17,351 --> 00:00:19,521 Mankind doesn't know how to do that. 11 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,980 LINDA: You all may have the first consistent data 12 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:25,941 here at the Skinwalker Ranch. 13 00:00:25,943 --> 00:00:28,113 We're dealing with something 14 00:00:28,111 --> 00:00:29,991 that doesn't want us to understand. 15 00:00:29,988 --> 00:00:31,818 ERIK: The cow is right here. 16 00:00:31,823 --> 00:00:33,703 I can't help but also notice that 17 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:34,870 there's something happening here. 18 00:00:34,868 --> 00:00:37,158 BRANDON: The cow reacted 19 00:00:37,162 --> 00:00:41,462 the moment that that object appeared. 20 00:00:41,458 --> 00:00:45,128 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 21 00:00:45,128 --> 00:00:47,628 It is considered the epicenter 22 00:00:47,631 --> 00:00:52,431 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 23 00:00:52,427 --> 00:00:54,757 animal mutilations, 24 00:00:54,763 --> 00:00:57,023 bizarre UFO sightings 25 00:00:57,015 --> 00:01:02,345 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 26 00:01:02,354 --> 00:01:05,024 For 20 years, the federal government 27 00:01:05,023 --> 00:01:08,323 tried to find answers and failed. 28 00:01:08,318 --> 00:01:12,358 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 29 00:01:12,364 --> 00:01:16,204 researchers and experts has taken over. 30 00:01:16,201 --> 00:01:20,251 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 31 00:01:22,708 --> 00:01:25,918 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 32 00:01:35,887 --> 00:01:37,677 ERIK: So here, you can see 33 00:01:37,681 --> 00:01:39,681 she starts to get up. 34 00:01:41,727 --> 00:01:44,307 The cow is trying to get up on her feet. 35 00:01:45,981 --> 00:01:47,981 ‐The object is here. ‐LINDA: Wow. 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,320 ‐The cow reacted. ‐TRAVIS: Right. 37 00:01:52,321 --> 00:01:55,951 The moment that that object appeared 38 00:01:55,949 --> 00:01:59,999 above the cow, the cow was reacting. 39 00:01:59,995 --> 00:02:02,205 Yes. 40 00:02:05,375 --> 00:02:07,745 TRAVIS: Yesterday, on the ranch, we found 41 00:02:07,753 --> 00:02:08,963 that a two‐year‐old cow 42 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:10,342 that had gotten completely separated 43 00:02:10,339 --> 00:02:13,259 from the rest of the herd just suddenly died. 44 00:02:13,258 --> 00:02:14,888 And for no apparent reason. 45 00:02:16,553 --> 00:02:19,433 Jim, are you seeing anything on the spectrum analyzer? 46 00:02:19,431 --> 00:02:22,271 So, I'm getting some pretty high spikes. 47 00:02:22,267 --> 00:02:24,517 TRAVIS: Oh, wow! 48 00:02:24,519 --> 00:02:27,019 Later, we had a veterinarian come out 49 00:02:27,022 --> 00:02:29,232 and perform an autopsy to determine the cause of death. 50 00:02:29,232 --> 00:02:32,532 But his findings only served to confirm our suspicions 51 00:02:32,527 --> 00:02:33,857 that something really out of the ordinary 52 00:02:33,862 --> 00:02:35,572 must have happened to it. 53 00:02:35,572 --> 00:02:37,032 SEGALA: I just want to verify something, 54 00:02:37,032 --> 00:02:39,702 that the animal was going about her business, 55 00:02:39,701 --> 00:02:42,581 doing her thing, got stressed by something 56 00:02:42,579 --> 00:02:44,539 that lowered her immune system, 57 00:02:44,539 --> 00:02:46,209 which allowed pneumonia to set in. 58 00:02:46,208 --> 00:02:47,168 Exactly, yeah. 59 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:49,087 All the signs I've seen point toward 60 00:02:49,086 --> 00:02:51,086 stress‐induced pneumonia. 61 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:56,760 TRAVIS: Luckily, one of Erik Bard's surveillance cameras 62 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,550 actually captured the moment that the cow died. 63 00:02:59,554 --> 00:03:01,224 It also captured something else. 64 00:03:01,223 --> 00:03:03,853 Something that appears to be a UFO 65 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:06,480 in the sky directly overhead. 66 00:03:06,478 --> 00:03:09,558 Go back and show them where you first see it, Erik. 67 00:03:09,564 --> 00:03:12,534 Okay, so this is our first shot of it. 68 00:03:15,779 --> 00:03:18,619 And I'm going to go single‐stepping 69 00:03:18,615 --> 00:03:19,905 one frame at a time. 70 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:24,285 LINDA: And it actually popped. 71 00:03:24,287 --> 00:03:26,287 So, is that 1/30th of a second video? 72 00:03:26,289 --> 00:03:28,959 ‐It's 1/15th. ‐This is, this is 1/15. ‐LINDA: 1/15. 73 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:33,344 TRAVIS: And so, clearly, it's behind the trees. 74 00:03:33,338 --> 00:03:35,338 And... you know, 75 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:37,800 the distance from the camera to the trees is how far? 76 00:03:37,801 --> 00:03:40,471 It's about 75 feet between the‐the tree 77 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:42,560 that you see on the far right and the next tree. 78 00:03:42,556 --> 00:03:44,976 So, if it's directly over the tree line, 79 00:03:44,975 --> 00:03:47,935 it moved 75 feet in a 15th of a second. 80 00:03:47,936 --> 00:03:49,346 So, you multiply that, 81 00:03:49,354 --> 00:03:52,404 that means it moved about a thousand feet in a second. 82 00:03:52,399 --> 00:03:55,939 That's... That's as fast as a high‐powered rifle bullet. 83 00:03:58,363 --> 00:03:59,913 I was sitting here this whole time 84 00:03:59,906 --> 00:04:01,866 just thinking it was a bird, but you watch that real‐time, 85 00:04:01,867 --> 00:04:04,367 ‐I mean, that's fast. ‐Yeah, there's no bird moving that fast. 86 00:04:04,369 --> 00:04:05,869 Not at a thousand feet per second. 87 00:04:05,871 --> 00:04:07,211 I have no idea what that is. 88 00:04:07,205 --> 00:04:09,705 And you're saying a thousand feet per second, 89 00:04:09,708 --> 00:04:11,668 ‐assuming it's right above the trees. ‐It's right over the trees. 90 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:14,548 ‐Right. ‐If it's just beyond the tree, 91 00:04:14,546 --> 00:04:17,416 ‐it could be moving even faster. ‐TRAVIS: Even faster. 92 00:04:17,424 --> 00:04:18,974 There's an interesting thing that I noticed 93 00:04:18,967 --> 00:04:20,637 when we were looking at it earlier. Erik, 94 00:04:20,635 --> 00:04:23,135 if you could pull the one where it's directly over the cow. 95 00:04:23,138 --> 00:04:24,508 ‐And zoom in on the thing. ‐Sure. 96 00:04:26,892 --> 00:04:28,602 ‐You want to go in tighter? ‐TRAVIS: Yup. 97 00:04:30,562 --> 00:04:34,572 Uh, if you look around 98 00:04:34,566 --> 00:04:36,686 the spot, there's an area 99 00:04:36,693 --> 00:04:38,453 that looks a little bit different. 100 00:04:38,445 --> 00:04:39,945 ‐LINDA: Halo‐ish. ‐TRAVIS: Yeah. 101 00:04:39,946 --> 00:04:41,776 And I noticed it when I did an analysis 102 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:44,412 of the Tic Tac video that the Navy has. 103 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:55,253 Recently, it's come to light that there's been this program 104 00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:57,763 that the Pentagon has been funding called 105 00:04:57,756 --> 00:05:00,086 the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, 106 00:05:00,091 --> 00:05:02,141 A‐A‐T‐I‐P or AATIP. 107 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:05,005 And this program was actually put in place 108 00:05:05,013 --> 00:05:09,143 to look at unknown aerial phenomena: UFOs. 109 00:05:11,978 --> 00:05:15,568 And there's a Gimbal video that was released, 110 00:05:15,565 --> 00:05:17,145 uh, and a Tic Tac video. 111 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:21,030 And all these videos show a vehicle that's flying 112 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:24,199 with some type of propulsion that we don't know of. 113 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:27,539 We can't understand what it is by looking at the video. 114 00:05:27,536 --> 00:05:29,536 When we looked at it on a FLIR, 115 00:05:29,538 --> 00:05:32,538 that told us that it was cold and the craft was warm. 116 00:05:32,541 --> 00:05:34,711 And then you got ambient air around it. 117 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:37,549 During my first meeting with the Skinwalker team, 118 00:05:37,546 --> 00:05:40,046 Brandon showed me a photo of a UFO 119 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:41,838 that was taken above the ranch. 120 00:05:41,842 --> 00:05:43,892 One of the first things that we captured 121 00:05:43,885 --> 00:05:45,675 on the property 122 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:47,389 was an interesting object 123 00:05:47,389 --> 00:05:49,559 just over the mesa. 124 00:05:49,558 --> 00:05:51,018 TRAVIS: And it looked to have 125 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,687 that same kind of halo around it, 126 00:05:52,686 --> 00:05:54,346 something that I believe is caused 127 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:55,734 by a temperature differential. 128 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:57,400 And that's something I've seen 129 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:00,109 in a number of other UFO videos. 130 00:06:00,110 --> 00:06:02,820 It could be a highly, highly classified thing. 131 00:06:02,821 --> 00:06:05,121 But here's the thing. If there's a project 132 00:06:05,115 --> 00:06:09,285 that's that classified, that level of technology 133 00:06:09,286 --> 00:06:10,946 so far advanced 134 00:06:10,954 --> 00:06:14,174 from the rest of the technology we have on the planet, 135 00:06:14,165 --> 00:06:16,835 that‐that's h... that's real hard to swallow. 136 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:20,261 Two things we don't know. 137 00:06:20,255 --> 00:06:23,965 Are we dealing with a craft that is moving point to point 138 00:06:23,967 --> 00:06:25,137 and has influence 139 00:06:25,135 --> 00:06:28,715 on the brain of that cow? 140 00:06:30,265 --> 00:06:31,925 And the fact that the herd is not around. 141 00:06:31,933 --> 00:06:34,273 I don't know that I have seen them pushed up 142 00:06:34,269 --> 00:06:36,149 to that side of the ranch since we brought them on, 143 00:06:36,146 --> 00:06:39,316 so that behavior by itself was unusual. 144 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:41,186 LINDA: I saw the cow, 145 00:06:41,192 --> 00:06:44,072 and it's not a mutilation. 146 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:47,660 But somehow that animal was sick enough 147 00:06:47,657 --> 00:06:51,697 or affected enough or manipulated enough, 148 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:55,293 it was left behind all the herd. 149 00:06:55,290 --> 00:06:59,710 And it is that that has been reported over and over 150 00:06:59,711 --> 00:07:02,171 in animal mutilation cases. 151 00:07:02,172 --> 00:07:04,972 Is it related in some way? 152 00:07:06,009 --> 00:07:08,049 I think we're seeing a reaction 153 00:07:08,053 --> 00:07:10,513 to something in its environment 154 00:07:10,513 --> 00:07:11,853 ‐at the very end. ‐Right. 155 00:07:11,848 --> 00:07:13,728 And it's enough of a reaction that it's making 156 00:07:13,725 --> 00:07:16,845 ‐a deathly ill cow want to move. ‐Want to get out of there. 157 00:07:16,853 --> 00:07:19,773 BRANDON: We very well could have prevented 158 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:22,483 a full‐blown cattle mutilation from occurring. 159 00:07:22,484 --> 00:07:24,784 ‐That's a possibility. ‐That's a possibility. 160 00:07:24,778 --> 00:07:26,568 It's oddly serendipitous. 161 00:07:26,571 --> 00:07:27,661 You know, it's one of those things. 162 00:07:27,656 --> 00:07:29,276 We continue to hit home 163 00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:31,792 that correlation isn't causation, 164 00:07:31,785 --> 00:07:34,495 but we have two really interesting phenomena 165 00:07:34,496 --> 00:07:36,456 occurring at exactly the same time 166 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:38,706 very near the same spatial location. 167 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:40,958 It really makes you want to look deeper to see 168 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,090 can we prove the cow moved because of that thing? 169 00:07:44,089 --> 00:07:45,589 Man, you just got to wonder. 170 00:07:45,590 --> 00:07:49,840 If this object appeared at just the same time 171 00:07:49,844 --> 00:07:53,104 this cow is dying its last breath 172 00:07:53,098 --> 00:07:55,268 and then just after the fact, we're measuring 173 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:57,436 all these weird electromagnetic signals, 174 00:07:57,435 --> 00:07:59,265 is that a coincidence? 175 00:07:59,270 --> 00:08:00,810 BRANDON: We're out in the middle of nowhere. 176 00:08:00,814 --> 00:08:03,534 So, which begs the question. Linda, 177 00:08:03,525 --> 00:08:06,895 have you seen with other cases you have investigated 178 00:08:06,903 --> 00:08:11,373 these type of phenomena attend 179 00:08:11,366 --> 00:08:15,196 cattle mutilations and other events? 180 00:08:15,203 --> 00:08:17,413 LINDA: The sudden separation 181 00:08:17,414 --> 00:08:19,464 of a herd that goes completely as far 182 00:08:19,457 --> 00:08:20,877 as they can go in a pasture, 183 00:08:20,875 --> 00:08:23,335 leaving the animal that is found mutilated? 184 00:08:23,336 --> 00:08:25,546 That's happened many, many times. 185 00:08:27,215 --> 00:08:30,335 What about the electromagnetic type of anomalies? 186 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:32,103 LINDA: I feel strongly 187 00:08:32,095 --> 00:08:34,465 where there are mutilations, 188 00:08:34,472 --> 00:08:38,022 where there are UFOs, you're going to find 189 00:08:38,017 --> 00:08:39,267 that there are magnetic anomalies. 190 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:40,899 They go together. 191 00:08:40,895 --> 00:08:44,685 And that includes the running down of batteries. 192 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:46,401 Wow. 193 00:08:46,401 --> 00:08:47,861 TRAVIS: That's... 194 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:49,611 We get that all the time. 195 00:08:49,612 --> 00:08:53,162 It's really weird that when strange things seem to happen, 196 00:08:53,158 --> 00:08:55,948 we seem to find something in the sky at the same time. 197 00:08:55,952 --> 00:08:57,622 LINDA: I think we are dealing 198 00:08:57,620 --> 00:08:58,960 with point to point. 199 00:08:58,955 --> 00:09:00,785 I think we're dealing with portals. 200 00:09:00,790 --> 00:09:03,750 I think we are dealing with advanced technology. 201 00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:07,006 See, you've got the combination 202 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:09,625 of just about every high strangeness going on here 203 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:11,262 at Skinwalker Ranch. 204 00:09:11,259 --> 00:09:14,759 But after being here for a day, 205 00:09:14,763 --> 00:09:18,603 I think the chapter has just simply turned. 206 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,020 And what I think gives me a new confidence 207 00:09:23,021 --> 00:09:25,981 that maybe we're going to get some more data 208 00:09:25,982 --> 00:09:27,982 is because of the work you're doing. 209 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:30,364 So, hooray, you guys. 210 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:31,861 Keep doing this, 211 00:09:31,863 --> 00:09:34,413 because this is maybe the only way we're really going 212 00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:37,577 to learn some of the truth that has been hidden. 213 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:38,997 BRANDON: Absolutely. 214 00:09:38,995 --> 00:09:42,865 I think we're just starting to pull back the curtain 215 00:09:42,874 --> 00:09:45,844 with our investigation here at Skinwalker Ranch. 216 00:09:45,835 --> 00:09:47,495 And, uh, we'll look forward 217 00:09:47,504 --> 00:09:49,014 to further updates in the future. 218 00:09:49,005 --> 00:09:50,835 ‐Thank you. ‐(overlapping chatter) 219 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,840 (wind whistling) 220 00:10:03,186 --> 00:10:05,436 JIM: It's good to see everybody. 221 00:10:05,438 --> 00:10:07,568 ‐It's good to have you back, Travis. ‐Yeah, man. 222 00:10:07,565 --> 00:10:08,815 I missed you guys. 223 00:10:08,817 --> 00:10:11,147 After being out there with y'all for so long, 224 00:10:11,152 --> 00:10:12,362 it was strange going home. 225 00:10:12,362 --> 00:10:13,702 And I kept looking 226 00:10:13,696 --> 00:10:16,276 over my shoulder for crazy stuff to happen, but... 227 00:10:16,282 --> 00:10:17,452 ‐(laughter) ‐Brandon 228 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,290 has instructed Tom, Erik and the team 229 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:21,285 to continue their surveillance of all the activities 230 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:22,657 on the ranch. 231 00:10:22,664 --> 00:10:24,544 But after the death of the cow, we decided 232 00:10:24,541 --> 00:10:26,581 to put a pause on experimentation out there, 233 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:28,714 at least until we've had a chance to analyze 234 00:10:28,711 --> 00:10:31,301 all the data that we collected over the summer. 235 00:10:32,382 --> 00:10:34,382 Hey, gentlemen. I'd like you to meet 236 00:10:34,384 --> 00:10:36,394 attorney general for the state of Utah, 237 00:10:36,386 --> 00:10:37,926 ‐Sean Reyes. ‐TRAVIS: Wow! 238 00:10:37,929 --> 00:10:39,219 ‐Dragon, how's it going? ‐Hey. 239 00:10:39,222 --> 00:10:40,772 ‐Good to see you again. ‐Good to see you, too. 240 00:10:40,765 --> 00:10:41,765 ‐Sir. ‐Travis Taylor. 241 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:42,886 Mr. Taylor. Pleased to meet you. 242 00:10:42,892 --> 00:10:45,982 Attorney General Reyes has been briefed 243 00:10:45,979 --> 00:10:47,979 over the course of the last several years. 244 00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:51,321 He's been very well aware and kept up on the events 245 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:54,607 that have occurred on property with you. 246 00:10:54,612 --> 00:10:56,872 And I thought it was important today, 247 00:10:56,865 --> 00:10:59,365 at his request, for him to be briefed 248 00:10:59,367 --> 00:11:02,037 on some of the more disturbing 249 00:11:02,036 --> 00:11:05,286 and interesting incidents that we've 250 00:11:05,290 --> 00:11:08,420 most recently had out on the... on the property. 251 00:11:08,418 --> 00:11:10,208 ‐Great. ‐JIM: Yeah, thank you so much. 252 00:11:10,211 --> 00:11:11,671 ‐Appreciate your time. Thanks very much. ‐Glad you're here. 253 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:13,051 TRAVIS: The fact that our activities 254 00:11:13,047 --> 00:11:15,337 at Skinwalker Ranch have merited the attention 255 00:11:15,341 --> 00:11:17,391 of the state's attorney generl 256 00:11:17,385 --> 00:11:20,005 shows me how seriously the state of Utah is taking 257 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:21,853 everything that we're doing out there. 258 00:11:21,848 --> 00:11:24,678 I mean, let's face it, if just some of our suspicions 259 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:26,314 turn out to be correct, 260 00:11:26,311 --> 00:11:28,771 the national security implications could be huge. 261 00:11:28,771 --> 00:11:30,901 Thanks very much. 262 00:11:30,899 --> 00:11:33,399 Brandon's been keeping me updated. 263 00:11:33,401 --> 00:11:35,991 Because you all shepherd 264 00:11:35,987 --> 00:11:39,237 the public now in a much more visible way 265 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,870 into the exploration 266 00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:44,198 of what Skinwalker Ranch represents. 267 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:46,044 ‐Yeah. ‐And, um, 268 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,289 on behalf of the citizens of the state of Utah, 269 00:11:48,291 --> 00:11:51,251 I think it'd be important that this isn't viewed 270 00:11:51,252 --> 00:11:53,382 as just, you know, this mysterious project 271 00:11:53,379 --> 00:11:54,879 that these outsiders are conducting. 272 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:58,891 These are important issues for our state. 273 00:11:58,885 --> 00:12:00,845 I'm happy to be a part of it. 274 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:02,215 I'm honored that you all 275 00:12:02,222 --> 00:12:05,272 would brief me and let me participate. 276 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:07,686 So thank you all, each and every one of you. 277 00:12:07,685 --> 00:12:09,555 ‐Appreciate it. ‐Thank you. ‐Thank you. 278 00:12:09,562 --> 00:12:13,612 You know, as we come back together after a month, 279 00:12:13,608 --> 00:12:17,028 I thought it was important to evaluate the events 280 00:12:17,028 --> 00:12:19,318 that happened on that ranch. 281 00:12:19,322 --> 00:12:22,992 ‐Yeah. ‐Because now you have hard data 282 00:12:22,992 --> 00:12:25,122 ‐Right. ‐that helps us hopefully understand 283 00:12:25,119 --> 00:12:27,539 what is at play at Skinwalker Ranch. 284 00:12:27,538 --> 00:12:29,788 ‐Right. ‐ERIK: There's so many points here, 285 00:12:29,791 --> 00:12:31,881 very good important points, for us to discuss, 286 00:12:31,876 --> 00:12:34,836 and, really, sifting information, 287 00:12:34,837 --> 00:12:38,127 trying to understand, you know, what is significant 288 00:12:38,132 --> 00:12:40,682 and what may just be coincidental. 289 00:12:40,677 --> 00:12:42,637 And also, if there are connections, 290 00:12:42,637 --> 00:12:44,217 what are they? 291 00:12:44,222 --> 00:12:47,732 Well, what have you taken from the events 292 00:12:47,725 --> 00:12:50,095 that have occurred over the last few months? 293 00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:51,523 Let's take this recent 294 00:12:51,521 --> 00:12:53,821 disturbing incident with the cow. 295 00:12:53,815 --> 00:12:56,725 The cow died, and we have, at the time of it dying, 296 00:12:56,734 --> 00:13:00,284 measured strange microwave activity. 297 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,700 ‐He was getting gammas. ‐Yeah, and microwaves. 298 00:13:05,285 --> 00:13:07,075 TRAVIS: Hey, y'all? 299 00:13:07,078 --> 00:13:08,448 I'd recommend not to touch it 300 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:09,914 till we see if it's radioactive or not. 301 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:11,624 THOMAS: No sign of trauma. 302 00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:13,544 TRAVIS: What in the world? 303 00:13:13,543 --> 00:13:16,503 There's no cat tracks, there's no sign of struggle. 304 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:18,174 ‐Middle of the day. ‐It's just dead. 305 00:13:18,172 --> 00:13:20,842 Jim, are you seeing anything on the spectrum analyzer? 306 00:13:20,842 --> 00:13:23,512 I'm getting some pretty high spikes. 307 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:25,351 TRAVIS: Oh, wow! 308 00:13:25,346 --> 00:13:28,346 Look at... the meter's going crazy. 309 00:13:28,349 --> 00:13:31,059 My phone starts freaking out whenever your TriField goes off. 310 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:33,600 I don't have any control over my phone right now. 311 00:13:33,604 --> 00:13:35,904 TRAVIS: Dude, look at that. 312 00:13:35,898 --> 00:13:38,438 SEGALA: We had an actual autopsy done 313 00:13:38,443 --> 00:13:41,863 by a veterinarian, a local veterinarian, and... 314 00:13:41,863 --> 00:13:44,623 what they found out is that it died of pneumonia 315 00:13:44,615 --> 00:13:46,945 brought on by stress. 316 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:50,501 BRANDON: What we did record is, we did record 317 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:53,706 some anomalous object 318 00:13:53,708 --> 00:13:56,998 in the sky above the cow before it died 319 00:13:57,003 --> 00:13:59,173 that it was reacting to. 320 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:01,262 So you have a biosensor, 321 00:14:01,257 --> 00:14:03,887 in essence, that reacted immediately to the event. 322 00:14:03,885 --> 00:14:06,425 ‐Absolutely. ‐Something scared it to death. 323 00:14:06,429 --> 00:14:08,719 ‐TRAVIS: That's a really good way to put it. ‐Yep. 324 00:14:08,723 --> 00:14:10,813 ‐Something scared it to death. ‐THOMAS: It gets even stranger, 325 00:14:10,808 --> 00:14:14,518 because after this cow died, we do what most ranchers do, 326 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,190 and you drag it off to a corner, and you let the body decompose. 327 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:21,191 ‐And let the‐the scavengers... ‐And‐and yeah, 328 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:22,744 and the typical thing is, the coyotes 329 00:14:22,737 --> 00:14:24,357 and the scavengers come in, 330 00:14:24,363 --> 00:14:27,083 and they pick it clean. I was just up there a week ago, 331 00:14:27,075 --> 00:14:30,115 on a patrol, and I went over there where that cow's at, 332 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:32,159 and it has not been touched. 333 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:35,883 To this day, not a single scavenger has touched that cow. 334 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,585 SEAN: Highly irregular. 335 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:39,835 TRAVIS: One of my graduate students 336 00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:42,917 grew up working on a cattle farm in Alabama, 337 00:14:42,924 --> 00:14:46,394 and he told me that if lightning ever struck one of the cows, 338 00:14:46,385 --> 00:14:47,715 that the predators 339 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,260 would not eat it. 340 00:14:49,263 --> 00:14:50,773 Maybe something happened to this cow. 341 00:14:50,765 --> 00:14:52,425 We know it wasn't struck by lightning, 342 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:54,273 'cause there was no storms at the time. 343 00:14:54,268 --> 00:14:56,438 But we did measure really high microwaves. 344 00:14:56,437 --> 00:14:58,977 And maybe whatever these signals are 345 00:14:58,981 --> 00:15:02,781 is affecting this cow in such a way that it tainted it. 346 00:15:02,777 --> 00:15:04,817 And it's still sitting there. 347 00:15:04,821 --> 00:15:06,821 No... nothing has touched it. 348 00:15:06,823 --> 00:15:08,833 So there's something to that. 349 00:15:08,825 --> 00:15:11,485 And there was another day where 350 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:14,464 we were launching rockets, for example, when... 351 00:15:14,455 --> 00:15:16,495 suddenly we see so many phenomena 352 00:15:16,499 --> 00:15:19,169 across so many different regimes of measurement. 353 00:15:19,168 --> 00:15:21,628 While we were launching these rockets, 354 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:23,709 the entire herd of about 40 cows 355 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:26,514 come over to the area where we are. 356 00:15:26,509 --> 00:15:28,719 You might think that they would be, um... 357 00:15:28,719 --> 00:15:30,969 ‐Skittish. ‐...frightened of our activity. 358 00:15:30,972 --> 00:15:33,142 You'd think they'd go away from us. 359 00:15:33,141 --> 00:15:34,851 Instead, during that activity, 360 00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:36,141 we watched the cattle come 361 00:15:36,144 --> 00:15:38,354 ‐to the east field. ‐Actually, 362 00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:40,774 ‐they didn't come, they ran. ‐Well, that was exactly the point. 363 00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:42,403 ‐They ran. ‐And... 364 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,320 some of them behaved as if they were in a panic. 365 00:15:45,319 --> 00:15:48,109 It was nearly stampeding behavior. 366 00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:49,374 Yeah, yeah. 367 00:15:49,365 --> 00:15:51,365 SEGALA: Look at the cows. 368 00:15:51,367 --> 00:15:53,367 That is the strangest thing. 369 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,959 ‐(cows bellowing) ‐BRYANT: Never seen that before. 370 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:57,075 SEGALA: They all grouped together 371 00:15:57,081 --> 00:15:58,461 so tight, they started fighting. 372 00:15:58,457 --> 00:16:00,707 THOMAS: They started to fight among each other, 373 00:16:00,710 --> 00:16:02,670 head‐butting each other, they were mooing, they were... 374 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:05,170 BRYANT: I thought they were gonna take down the east fence. 375 00:16:05,173 --> 00:16:06,883 Something that gave them more concern 376 00:16:06,883 --> 00:16:08,593 than the sound of the rockets. 377 00:16:08,593 --> 00:16:11,013 TRAVIS: Well, and it's at the same time 378 00:16:11,012 --> 00:16:13,012 that the unidentified aerial phenomena 379 00:16:13,014 --> 00:16:15,684 ‐start appearing in the sky. ‐Really? 380 00:16:15,683 --> 00:16:17,443 TRAVIS: Ignition! 381 00:16:18,936 --> 00:16:20,306 Look, look, look, look! 382 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:22,403 ‐What is that? ‐We got something. Hold on. 383 00:16:22,398 --> 00:16:24,688 THOMAS: Oh, wait, wait, it's a plane, I think. 384 00:16:24,692 --> 00:16:26,402 TRAVIS: No, that wasn't a plane. 385 00:16:26,402 --> 00:16:28,322 ‐Oh, there it is again! ‐There it is again! 386 00:16:30,531 --> 00:16:32,451 THOMAS: It's gone. 387 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:34,120 SEAN: It's one thing to have 388 00:16:34,118 --> 00:16:37,458 a light in the night or some random sighting, 389 00:16:37,455 --> 00:16:41,035 but when livestock start to literally fall over... 390 00:16:41,042 --> 00:16:43,502 It's not unheard of to have them die from time to time, 391 00:16:43,502 --> 00:16:45,962 but not under these kinds of circumstances, 392 00:16:45,963 --> 00:16:47,763 not with this many questions. 393 00:16:47,757 --> 00:16:51,387 Or, our bigger concern, uh, beyond livestock, 394 00:16:51,385 --> 00:16:55,175 when this starts to potentially impact human beings. 395 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:56,851 BRANDON: Yes. 396 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,309 You found out firsthand, 397 00:16:58,309 --> 00:17:02,649 surprisingly, how dangerous this ranch can be. 398 00:17:02,647 --> 00:17:05,187 TRAVIS: Absolutely. While we were out there, 399 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:08,901 we were in a... in a cave, and, uh, 400 00:17:08,903 --> 00:17:13,243 I was exposed to something that made me, uh, nearly pass out. 401 00:17:13,241 --> 00:17:16,291 TRAVIS: Let me ask a question, guys. 402 00:17:16,285 --> 00:17:19,535 ‐Do any of y'all feel a little swimmy‐headed at all? ‐ERIK: You feeling it? 403 00:17:19,538 --> 00:17:20,618 TRAVIS: I don't know. Slightly, I felt 404 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:22,713 like I was not holding my balance well 405 00:17:22,708 --> 00:17:25,708 for a second there‐‐ that's why I put my hand over on the rock. 406 00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:27,381 And I'm feeling it now, too. 407 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:29,880 TRAVIS: And then, a few days later, 408 00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:33,802 I was exposed to a fairly high dose of gamma ray radiation. 409 00:17:33,803 --> 00:17:37,183 Heck, it could be a tunnel entrance for all we know. 410 00:17:37,181 --> 00:17:38,771 I'd like to know what's in this thing. 411 00:17:38,766 --> 00:17:40,476 Don't lift it up. 412 00:17:40,476 --> 00:17:42,516 TRAVIS: I feel like, uh, 413 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,060 I got a little bit of a headache or something happening. 414 00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,074 ‐Holy... Mine's beeping. ‐SEGALA: Your total dose 415 00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:48,226 ‐is way up there. ‐Oh, my God. 416 00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:50,444 We were just exposed to ionizing radiation. 417 00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:52,784 So, did you end up going to the hospital 418 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:54,780 ‐as a result of these injuries? ‐TRAVIS: Yes. 419 00:17:54,782 --> 00:17:57,202 I had surgery as a result of those injuries. 420 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:08,090 TRAVIS: Maybe a week, maybe two weeks at most, 421 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:10,377 after I got exposed to the radiation, 422 00:18:10,381 --> 00:18:12,931 I started getting a knot forming here, a bump, 423 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:14,585 coming out of my knuckle there. 424 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,304 And then another bump started forming. 425 00:18:16,304 --> 00:18:17,894 And on into the summer, 426 00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:20,388 it kept getting bigger and bigger and started hurting. 427 00:18:20,391 --> 00:18:22,641 That's... that's nasty, man. 428 00:18:22,643 --> 00:18:24,653 So then I went and had it X‐rayed, 429 00:18:24,645 --> 00:18:26,975 and my doctor looked at it, and he says, "Well, uh, 430 00:18:26,981 --> 00:18:28,771 you've got two bone spurs in there." 431 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:30,784 They said, "Well, you're gonna have to have it removed, 432 00:18:30,776 --> 00:18:33,066 'cause it's just gonna keep getting bigger and worse." 433 00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:35,280 And so they went in, and they took out a cyst 434 00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:36,911 that was almost as big as an M&M. 435 00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:38,447 There was, like, 18 stitches in there. 436 00:18:38,451 --> 00:18:40,121 JIM: Mm, that's unreal. 437 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,709 And, uh, and it still feels like it's a broken finger. 438 00:18:43,706 --> 00:18:45,956 It's still a little bit painful, but it's, 439 00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:47,588 you know, it's healing fine. 440 00:18:47,585 --> 00:18:48,745 Wow. 441 00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:50,803 TRAVIS: I believe that whatever 442 00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:52,336 this phenomena is that we've measured, 443 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:53,970 every time we've measured it, 444 00:18:53,966 --> 00:18:56,466 we do get high energy levels and microwaves, 445 00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:58,429 and we've measured gamma rays. 446 00:18:58,429 --> 00:19:00,599 And so it's possible that whatever this is 447 00:19:00,598 --> 00:19:04,388 that's occurring is what's causing the injuries. 448 00:19:04,393 --> 00:19:07,063 But you're not the only one, right? 449 00:19:07,063 --> 00:19:09,823 ‐Mr. Winterton had... ‐Thomas had... serious ones, yeah. 450 00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:11,475 I know, at least for my injury, 451 00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:13,574 and‐and if I'm under the correct understanding 452 00:19:13,569 --> 00:19:16,949 of some of the other injuries, they couldn't explain it away. 453 00:19:16,947 --> 00:19:18,407 ‐That's what... ‐That particular one, they couldn't. 454 00:19:18,407 --> 00:19:20,697 They never came to conclusion of what caused it, 455 00:19:20,701 --> 00:19:23,081 and they couldn't find what it was. 456 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:25,039 ‐TRAVIS: Right. ‐Yep. ‐BRYANT: Well, 457 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:26,459 to your point, Thomas, too, 458 00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:28,077 when you talk about ranching injuries, 459 00:19:28,084 --> 00:19:30,924 we're not talking about broken bones and smashed hands. 460 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,510 We're talking about radiation exposure. 461 00:19:35,091 --> 00:19:39,051 The injuries that Tom Winterton experienced back two years ago 462 00:19:39,053 --> 00:19:42,603 were of the nature that he had a neurological episode, 463 00:19:42,598 --> 00:19:45,938 and he had a big swelling in the back of his head. 464 00:19:45,935 --> 00:19:49,395 And his injuries was consistent with a radiation beam 465 00:19:49,397 --> 00:19:51,897 that entered his body from a specific angle, 466 00:19:51,899 --> 00:19:53,649 back behind his head. 467 00:19:53,651 --> 00:19:55,651 So Thomas's injury 468 00:19:55,653 --> 00:19:58,913 really reinforces that this ranch could be very dangerous. 469 00:19:58,906 --> 00:20:02,446 Somehow, all of this is coupled; we just don't know how. 470 00:20:03,953 --> 00:20:05,203 Yeah. 471 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:06,964 ERIK: Obviously, we're experiencing things 472 00:20:06,956 --> 00:20:09,076 of a subjective nature. 473 00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:11,633 Something in our physiology is responding 474 00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:12,957 to something on the property, 475 00:20:12,962 --> 00:20:14,762 ‐Yeah. ‐but we also see... 476 00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:17,795 devices of many different kinds malfunctioning on the ranch. 477 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,680 We're talking about the, 478 00:20:19,677 --> 00:20:22,507 uh, disruption of a handheld or a mobile device. 479 00:20:22,513 --> 00:20:25,433 ‐Like the phones, right? ‐Right. 480 00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:27,773 My phone's freaking out. 481 00:20:27,768 --> 00:20:29,268 It's just been doing this for the last, 482 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:30,650 you know, couple minutes. 483 00:20:30,646 --> 00:20:32,476 I just ran up here so you could see it. 484 00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:35,231 It was in my contacts, it tried calling a couple people, 485 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:37,704 and then it's been messing around in my camera. 486 00:20:37,695 --> 00:20:40,655 Dude, that is crazy. 487 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:44,116 ERIK: We are continuously dealing 488 00:20:44,118 --> 00:20:46,618 with some kind of interference that takes our systems down. 489 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:50,880 And it's not one type of device; it's many kinds of devices. 490 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:52,535 ‐Right. ‐Uh, you know, 491 00:20:52,543 --> 00:20:55,053 very often batteries are... are discharged, 492 00:20:55,045 --> 00:20:57,005 ‐Yeah. ‐or things don't work correctly. 493 00:20:57,006 --> 00:20:58,506 Yeah. 494 00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:01,427 PHIL: Oh, my gosh. 495 00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:03,597 I completely charged these four batteries 496 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:06,216 last evening, and now they're into the yellow section. 497 00:21:06,223 --> 00:21:08,683 ERIK: When have you seen that before? 498 00:21:08,684 --> 00:21:10,854 I quite frankly have not seen that before. 499 00:21:13,856 --> 00:21:15,856 TRAVIS: You name it, 500 00:21:15,858 --> 00:21:19,068 if it had electronics in it, somehow or other, 501 00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:21,159 it malfunctioned while we were out there this summer. 502 00:21:21,155 --> 00:21:25,735 It either turned itself off, uh, it w‐‐ just wouldn't function. 503 00:21:25,743 --> 00:21:29,623 Its electronic control software didn't work. 504 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,332 We had drones that worked fine one second, 505 00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:36,053 then move it ten feet over and it wouldn't work at all. 506 00:21:36,045 --> 00:21:38,915 DERRICK: All right, let's do this. 507 00:21:38,923 --> 00:21:40,303 No connection. 508 00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,589 TRAVIS: Huh, that's weird. 509 00:21:42,593 --> 00:21:44,143 DERRICK: Yeah, I'm not connecting to the remote. 510 00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:46,596 I don't know what's happening with it. 511 00:21:46,597 --> 00:21:48,137 T‐That makes no sense. 512 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:50,140 I don't think this is a coincidence. 513 00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:52,652 I think what happened is that because we were all there, 514 00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:55,015 we were concentrated, we were doing experiments 515 00:21:55,022 --> 00:21:56,732 on a daily basis... 516 00:21:56,732 --> 00:21:57,902 Look, it is going nuts. 517 00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,820 It's coming from up there. 518 00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:02,699 And we were doing lots of experiments that no one 519 00:22:02,696 --> 00:22:04,106 has ever really done on the ranch. 520 00:22:04,114 --> 00:22:06,374 Oh, you see that? Look, look, look. 521 00:22:06,367 --> 00:22:08,537 SEGALA: That caused the entity, the phenomena, 522 00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:11,406 whatever you want to call it, to actually show itself 523 00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:12,623 on a more frequent basis. 524 00:22:12,623 --> 00:22:14,043 THOMAS: That's a definite beam. 525 00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:16,841 It is clearly a beam going across there. 526 00:22:16,836 --> 00:22:18,546 What we're seeing might not just be 527 00:22:18,546 --> 00:22:20,876 the reactions of the phenomena. 528 00:22:20,881 --> 00:22:23,301 The phenomena might actually be trying to tell us something 529 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:26,300 or show us something or lead us to something. 530 00:22:26,303 --> 00:22:30,023 As you've seen unidentified aerial phenomena 531 00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:34,435 appear simultaneous with other events, 532 00:22:34,436 --> 00:22:37,056 does that constitute contact? 533 00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:43,034 So, we didn't, as far as I can tell, try and talk back to them, 534 00:22:43,028 --> 00:22:44,528 but we don't know that we didn't. 535 00:22:45,906 --> 00:22:47,406 We were launching rockets, for example, 536 00:22:47,408 --> 00:22:50,788 when, uh, a lot of them appeared over us. 537 00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:52,906 ‐Right. ‐Yeah. 538 00:22:52,913 --> 00:22:55,003 TRAVIS: After having a month to reflect on, uh, 539 00:22:54,999 --> 00:22:56,539 all the things we did, 540 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:58,962 the one thing that I just can't seem to, uh, 541 00:22:58,961 --> 00:23:00,591 quit thinking about, really, 542 00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:02,798 is while we were launching those rockets, 543 00:23:02,798 --> 00:23:04,378 we had all these experiences, 544 00:23:04,383 --> 00:23:06,473 saw all these UFOs appearing in the sky. 545 00:23:06,468 --> 00:23:08,298 ‐THOMAS: Look, look, look! ‐ERIK: What is that? 546 00:23:08,304 --> 00:23:09,934 TRAVIS: And we measured it with all these instruments. 547 00:23:09,930 --> 00:23:12,640 I wonder, were we communicating with whatever 548 00:23:12,641 --> 00:23:14,891 this phenomenon is by launching these rockets and it said, 549 00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:17,274 "Hey, we're here," and they said, "Hey," back? 550 00:23:17,271 --> 00:23:18,731 ‐Oh, there it is again! ‐There it is again! 551 00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:20,821 ‐It's still in the same spot. ‐BRYANT: Right there. 552 00:23:20,816 --> 00:23:23,896 There's some communication possibly taking place 553 00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:28,703 in response to the experiments that you launched. 554 00:23:28,699 --> 00:23:30,739 ‐Right. ‐ERIK: And also, 555 00:23:30,743 --> 00:23:33,583 if there are connections, what are they? 556 00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:36,829 Are we intelligent enough, are we intuitive enough, perhaps, 557 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:40,792 to‐to understand if, in fact, we're being communicated with? 558 00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:43,174 ‐Yep. ‐Do any of the things that we've observed 559 00:23:43,172 --> 00:23:46,842 constitute communication? 560 00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:49,552 Well, there's absolutely no disputing the fact 561 00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:55,103 that we launched rockets, phenomena occurred. 562 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,480 I mean, within seconds and minutes of each other. 563 00:23:58,479 --> 00:24:02,269 It would be interesting to say it's just serendipitous, 564 00:24:02,274 --> 00:24:04,744 but never before on the ranch 565 00:24:04,735 --> 00:24:07,655 have you guys reported a‐‐ this much activity at one time. 566 00:24:07,655 --> 00:24:09,065 JIM: Not to this level. 567 00:24:09,073 --> 00:24:11,913 ‐It's unexplainable. ‐Yep. 568 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:15,369 SEGALA: We've never had physical evidence 569 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:17,411 that we actually saw with our own eyes. 570 00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:21,044 We've never had recorded, electronically recorded data 571 00:24:21,043 --> 00:24:24,003 that we took with instruments. I mean, this is amazing. 572 00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:25,884 ‐Yeah. ‐SEAN: And for those of us who look at 573 00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:28,341 ‐a lot of evidence, that's the most credible type of evidence. ‐Yep. 574 00:24:28,342 --> 00:24:31,352 The stuff that's happening right in front of your eyes, right? 575 00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:35,975 No‐no chance for someone's memory to‐to fade or to distort, 576 00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:37,345 um, so that's im‐‐ that's impressive. 577 00:24:37,351 --> 00:24:39,231 TRAVIS: So‐so, what it tells us is, 578 00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:41,728 by‐‐ without‐‐ beyond a shadow of a doubt, 579 00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:43,320 there is some phenomena occurring 580 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:44,975 and we have measured the phenomena. 581 00:24:46,235 --> 00:24:48,195 The phenomena is real. 582 00:24:48,195 --> 00:24:50,855 Now the question is: what is this phenomena? 583 00:24:50,864 --> 00:24:52,784 ‐Fascinating. ‐SEGALA: So, 584 00:24:52,783 --> 00:24:55,203 technologically now, we've advanced this whole thing, 585 00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:56,752 very, very high‐‐ to a high level. 586 00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:59,205 Which means that we can take the next level. 587 00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:00,956 ‐Right. ‐Why can't we communicate with them? 588 00:25:00,958 --> 00:25:03,208 So, now that brings up all these moral issues, 589 00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:04,750 that falls on your shoulders. 590 00:25:04,753 --> 00:25:05,883 TRAVIS: Whatever these are, 591 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,759 are saying, "Hey." 592 00:25:07,756 --> 00:25:10,006 Do we have permission to say hi back? 593 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:12,089 ‐Yeah. ‐SEAN: There are government agencies 594 00:25:12,094 --> 00:25:14,144 and divisions for interactions. 595 00:25:14,138 --> 00:25:15,928 Uh, we had them when we flew to the Moon. 596 00:25:15,931 --> 00:25:18,351 We had to prepare just in case, 597 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:20,350 even in a one in a million chance 598 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:22,522 that we made first contact. 599 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:25,981 How do we interact? Who's gonna interact? 600 00:25:25,983 --> 00:25:27,613 What‐What's the message? 601 00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:30,239 ‐Yeah, what are the protocols? ‐Yeah, that's right. 602 00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:32,197 ‐That's it. Exactly. ‐Right. 603 00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,067 Maybe that's what we do, is just follow, uh, 604 00:25:34,074 --> 00:25:36,874 what's in that particular guidance. 605 00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:38,159 Yeah. 606 00:25:38,162 --> 00:25:40,332 ‐Right. ‐ERIK: You know, as I've been listening, 607 00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:43,710 you know, my head is swimming with‐with ideas 608 00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:45,669 about what it all means. 609 00:25:47,337 --> 00:25:49,757 Do you have something you'd like to share 610 00:25:49,757 --> 00:25:51,677 and illustrate for us? 611 00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:53,425 I do have something, if we're ready for that. 612 00:26:05,647 --> 00:26:08,147 ERIK: Recently, I've been preparing, 613 00:26:08,150 --> 00:26:09,780 I guess, we'll call it a model 614 00:26:09,777 --> 00:26:12,447 prompted by, uh, measurements of RF, 615 00:26:12,446 --> 00:26:14,776 in particular microwave frequencies, 616 00:26:14,782 --> 00:26:17,162 we've observed this summer. 617 00:26:17,159 --> 00:26:19,499 For example, if there were a source 618 00:26:19,495 --> 00:26:23,165 projecting energy downward, towards the ground, 619 00:26:23,165 --> 00:26:25,995 then what we see in the model represents how 620 00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:28,551 it would be reflected by the terrain into the space above. 621 00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:30,915 TRAVIS: One of our theories is 622 00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:34,803 that the Uinta Basin looks like a very large, uh, radio antenna. 623 00:26:34,802 --> 00:26:36,852 It's a‐a dish, 'cause it's shaped 624 00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:38,805 ‐parabolically. ‐Right. 625 00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:40,216 TRAVIS: And so, if that's the case, 626 00:26:40,224 --> 00:26:42,524 whatever these weird signals we're seeing, 627 00:26:42,518 --> 00:26:44,898 they're bouncing off of it and being focused to somewhere, 628 00:26:44,895 --> 00:26:46,895 just like a dish focuses the energy. 629 00:26:46,897 --> 00:26:48,687 ERIK: So, Attorney General Reyes, 630 00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:51,110 what we're doing is we're‐we're fleshing out a hypothesis. 631 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:52,110 Okay? 632 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:53,451 We have some measurements. 633 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:55,905 We have some data that are very suggestive, 634 00:26:55,906 --> 00:26:58,776 that maybe what Travis just described 635 00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:01,624 is relevant somehow to what's going on. 636 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:04,290 And so, to visualize that problem, 637 00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:05,959 I decided to build this model. 638 00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:08,538 So, what I'd like to do is to share 639 00:27:08,544 --> 00:27:11,304 some of the results of the modeling. 640 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:14,676 So, the data that we used to build this model comes from 641 00:27:14,675 --> 00:27:17,795 the United States Geologic Survey. 642 00:27:17,803 --> 00:27:22,223 This is terrain data that tells us what the lay of the land is. 643 00:27:22,224 --> 00:27:23,484 And we plugged that into the model 644 00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:25,685 and then turn it into a reflector. 645 00:27:25,686 --> 00:27:29,566 So we should all recognize this geography. 646 00:27:30,607 --> 00:27:32,397 ‐BRANDON: Wow. ‐That's awesome. 647 00:27:32,401 --> 00:27:34,571 ERIK: So we're going to focus on 648 00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:36,320 the things that may happen that intersect 649 00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:38,411 with the ranch property. 650 00:27:38,407 --> 00:27:40,277 We are located 651 00:27:40,284 --> 00:27:42,664 where you see that graphic. 652 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,121 TRAVIS: Right‐‐ Almost dead center. 653 00:27:44,121 --> 00:27:45,371 ERIK: Yes. 654 00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:48,712 So, what I did was construct a... 655 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:52,089 60,000‐square‐kilometer mirror. 656 00:27:52,087 --> 00:27:54,837 And then producing a line 657 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,220 of what you just described as radiation coming down 658 00:27:58,218 --> 00:28:00,048 from above, okay? 659 00:28:00,053 --> 00:28:03,353 So, we're going to look at how those rays, 660 00:28:03,348 --> 00:28:07,018 uh, interact with and reflect from this surface, 661 00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:09,649 which is what this next visual shows us. 662 00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:12,646 ‐BRANDON: Wow. ‐JIM: Geez, Louise. 663 00:28:13,942 --> 00:28:15,572 ERIK: This represents measurements 664 00:28:15,569 --> 00:28:18,949 of microwave frequencies that we had in the summer. 665 00:28:18,947 --> 00:28:20,407 We are looking at 666 00:28:20,407 --> 00:28:23,117 parallel rays of energy coming down from above. 667 00:28:23,118 --> 00:28:25,788 Primarily for long wavelengths, 668 00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:28,457 not necessarily visible light. 669 00:28:28,457 --> 00:28:31,077 ‐BRYANT: Incredible. It's really cool. ‐Yeah. 670 00:28:31,084 --> 00:28:33,754 If you'll look at the ones right in the center, 671 00:28:33,754 --> 00:28:35,134 they're being focused. 672 00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:36,630 And the ones at the edge, 673 00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:39,432 you can see there is a significant focus, 674 00:28:39,426 --> 00:28:42,256 where these things are being brought to a point 675 00:28:42,262 --> 00:28:44,562 and there's mu‐‐ a big concentration of energy 676 00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:45,766 up here somewhere. 677 00:28:45,766 --> 00:28:48,886 If you think about it, that is amazing. 678 00:28:48,894 --> 00:28:49,944 Erik, this is so cool. 679 00:28:49,937 --> 00:28:51,307 Impressive. 680 00:28:51,313 --> 00:28:52,983 TRAVIS: Based on Erik's visualization, 681 00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:54,981 I believe that the Uinta Basin 682 00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:57,033 could be acting almost like a satellite dish, 683 00:28:57,027 --> 00:28:58,317 one that both collects 684 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,820 and directs energy from somewhere out in space. 685 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:03,623 Big question. 686 00:29:03,617 --> 00:29:07,537 What could be causing this energy? 687 00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:08,537 TRAVIS: That's the big question. 688 00:29:08,538 --> 00:29:10,328 That is the question of the day. 689 00:29:10,332 --> 00:29:12,082 TRAVIS: So, there's two possibilities. 690 00:29:12,084 --> 00:29:14,294 Right now, we're thinking, "Okay, it's a‐‐ 691 00:29:14,294 --> 00:29:16,254 it's a‐‐ it's a reflective dish." 692 00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:19,094 And so maybe the energy's coming from space 693 00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:21,511 and it hits and it's being focused up. Or... 694 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:23,260 the other possibility is 695 00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:26,311 this could be acting like a lens and not just a dish. 696 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:29,346 The source could be down here, inside the Earth, 697 00:29:29,351 --> 00:29:32,021 and coming up through it and focusing. 698 00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:33,480 But to what end, we don't know. 699 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,070 And‐and we've got to come up with other measurements 700 00:29:36,066 --> 00:29:37,936 to figure out where the energy's coming from. 701 00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:39,193 Hmm. 702 00:29:39,194 --> 00:29:41,244 BRYANT: So, we've had the debate of whether 703 00:29:41,238 --> 00:29:44,238 it's below the Earth or coming from above. I mean, 704 00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:45,781 it could be a combination of the two. 705 00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,954 Absolutely. I agree. I agree 100%. 706 00:29:47,953 --> 00:29:49,583 There's a source and a destination, 707 00:29:49,579 --> 00:29:51,079 ‐whether, you know... ‐Yeah. Yeah, there's‐‐ 708 00:29:51,081 --> 00:29:53,501 One of them's a‐‐ There's a source and‐and to what end. 709 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:55,380 We got to find out where they're coming from. 710 00:29:55,377 --> 00:29:56,627 Yeah. 711 00:29:56,628 --> 00:29:59,088 ERIK: Now, this also reminds me 712 00:29:59,089 --> 00:30:00,419 of something that‐‐ 713 00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:03,264 what I found kind of troubling during the summer. 714 00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:06,100 You recall, you did an exercise 715 00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:09,766 where you seemingly located a source, 716 00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:12,636 uh, a concentration of signals, 717 00:30:12,644 --> 00:30:14,314 uh, fairly low. 718 00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:16,942 At about 5,000 feet. And I was just thinking about that. 719 00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:18,530 ERIK: Right, and could you point 720 00:30:18,525 --> 00:30:20,935 in the‐‐ in the vicinity of where you think that was? 721 00:30:20,944 --> 00:30:22,364 TRAVIS: Yeah. 722 00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:24,362 So, right in here, 723 00:30:24,364 --> 00:30:26,834 you can see there is some convergence right there. 724 00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:28,945 There was a local focus, 725 00:30:28,952 --> 00:30:31,542 and we launched a weather balloon with radio frequency 726 00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:33,038 and microwave instruments on it. 727 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,880 And when it got to about that height, 728 00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,665 the instruments started failing. 729 00:30:37,711 --> 00:30:38,881 You guys ready? 730 00:30:38,879 --> 00:30:39,919 ‐Yep, we're good. ‐Yep. Good to go. 731 00:30:39,921 --> 00:30:40,961 TRAVIS: All right, here we go. 732 00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:43,014 All right, slowly let it up. 733 00:30:43,008 --> 00:30:45,298 All right, keep going. You're good. 734 00:30:45,302 --> 00:30:47,972 ‐THOMAS: Okay, we're clear. ‐TRAVIS: All right. 735 00:30:47,971 --> 00:30:49,681 THOMAS: Man, that's a big balloon. 736 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:52,351 Yeah, ain't that cool? 737 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:53,690 THOMAS: Man, that's a long ways up. 738 00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:55,685 TRAVIS: Heck yeah. 739 00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,727 It failed right there, 740 00:30:57,731 --> 00:31:00,071 which suggests maybe the power was so high 741 00:31:00,067 --> 00:31:02,397 that it burned out the instruments. 742 00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:03,992 Wow. 743 00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:06,237 BRYANT: And whether it's just bad luck or not, 744 00:31:06,239 --> 00:31:07,819 we never recovered the balloon, even. 745 00:31:07,824 --> 00:31:09,534 ‐SEAN: Interesting. ‐BRANDON: You never recovered 746 00:31:09,534 --> 00:31:10,624 ‐the balloon? ‐BRYANT: No. No. 747 00:31:10,619 --> 00:31:11,949 TRAVIS: And we had GPS trackers on it. 748 00:31:11,953 --> 00:31:14,293 So, you lost it. When it hit that point, 749 00:31:14,289 --> 00:31:16,879 all of the instruments failed? 750 00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:18,245 All the other instruments failed. 751 00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:19,591 What? 752 00:31:21,755 --> 00:31:22,955 Wow. 753 00:31:24,925 --> 00:31:27,215 TRAVIS: You know, it's really intriguing 754 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,429 and, um, actually kind of startling a little bit 755 00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:32,640 is I've been contacted by, uh, 756 00:31:32,641 --> 00:31:34,271 some folks in the intelligence community 757 00:31:34,267 --> 00:31:38,187 that are really interested in what we've found. 758 00:31:38,188 --> 00:31:40,358 BRYANT: So, 759 00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:41,607 is it they approached you? 760 00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:42,648 How have they heard about... 761 00:31:42,651 --> 00:31:44,441 They approached us. 762 00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:46,824 Wow. So we're being monitored? 763 00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:48,242 Yep. 764 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,670 So we're being monitored? 765 00:31:59,668 --> 00:32:01,708 There are people interested in what we are doing. 766 00:32:01,711 --> 00:32:03,381 I find that really intriguing. 767 00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:06,590 They're gonna tell us something, I don't know what. 768 00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:09,341 But my suspicion is they've measured a similar phenomenon, 769 00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:11,474 don't know what it is, and they want to compare notes. 770 00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:14,311 And I find that really intriguing. 771 00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:16,847 It's very strange. 772 00:32:16,852 --> 00:32:18,352 Hmm. 773 00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:19,863 So what this tells us though is 774 00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:22,265 there are real government organizations, 775 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:25,114 who are interested in this phenomena 776 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:27,860 and‐and are taking it seriously. 777 00:32:27,863 --> 00:32:29,033 BRANDON: Wow. 778 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:31,280 TRAVIS: After being contacted 779 00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:32,953 by representatives of the government, 780 00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:35,041 including some folks in the intelligence community, 781 00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:37,406 it was clear to me that someone had 782 00:32:37,414 --> 00:32:39,674 been following our progress on the ranch. 783 00:32:39,666 --> 00:32:42,166 THOMAS: Look at that‐‐ what is that? 784 00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:44,379 ‐There's a helicopter right up there. ‐Yeah, sure is. 785 00:32:44,379 --> 00:32:45,959 THOMAS: You can hear it. 786 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:47,974 TRAVIS: That dude's hovering right there. 787 00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:50,086 I think somebody's watching us right now. 788 00:32:50,093 --> 00:32:51,763 That's exactly what it looks like. 789 00:32:51,761 --> 00:32:53,721 TRAVIS: I think they're‐they're watching us, guys. 790 00:32:53,722 --> 00:32:55,352 ERIK: So, guys, I'm gonna try to go in, 791 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:56,768 and look at the transponder data. 792 00:32:56,766 --> 00:32:58,186 See if I can figure out who it is. 793 00:32:58,185 --> 00:32:59,935 Yeah, that's a good idea, Erik. 794 00:33:02,022 --> 00:33:04,482 They should by law, right, be transponding. 795 00:33:04,482 --> 00:33:06,152 What we got, Erik? 796 00:33:06,151 --> 00:33:07,781 They didn't show up at all. 797 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,109 BRYANT: So do you have a fear 798 00:33:11,114 --> 00:33:13,494 that there's the possibility of them shutting us down or...? 799 00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:15,791 ‐TRAVIS: No, you know... ‐I don't think so, I think it's 800 00:33:15,785 --> 00:33:18,405 more they're gonna encourage us to go in a direction. 801 00:33:18,413 --> 00:33:20,293 But do they want 802 00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:21,960 the world to know what's happening? 803 00:33:21,958 --> 00:33:24,498 They won't tell anybody. 804 00:33:24,502 --> 00:33:26,382 They may not, but, I mean... 805 00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:27,589 I doubt they will acknowledge that they 806 00:33:27,589 --> 00:33:28,919 ever had the meeting with us. 807 00:33:28,924 --> 00:33:30,054 Uh, but they will know 808 00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:32,140 what we know at that point. 809 00:33:32,135 --> 00:33:34,005 Yeah, the fact that we're being monitored, 810 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:37,932 that our efforts have received a higher level 811 00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:40,853 of attention and awareness within those channels, 812 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,272 I think speaks to the reality of this ranch. 813 00:33:44,272 --> 00:33:45,522 Absolutely, I agree. 814 00:33:45,523 --> 00:33:46,613 I agree 100%. 815 00:33:46,608 --> 00:33:48,398 BRANDON: As we have obtained 816 00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:50,151 all of this data and evidence, 817 00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:51,863 I think now 818 00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:53,953 it is our responsibility to take this forward. 819 00:33:53,949 --> 00:33:55,989 But I'd like to hear 820 00:33:55,992 --> 00:33:57,912 from the team, you know, 821 00:33:57,911 --> 00:33:59,371 what do we need to implement 822 00:33:59,371 --> 00:34:01,081 that will help us advance this research 823 00:34:01,081 --> 00:34:02,621 to the next level? 824 00:34:02,624 --> 00:34:04,754 ERIK: So, naturally, I'm interested 825 00:34:04,751 --> 00:34:08,261 in increasing our instrumentation bandwidth. 826 00:34:08,255 --> 00:34:10,755 Our virtual presence on the property. 827 00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:13,387 I mean, we can't always be present. 828 00:34:13,385 --> 00:34:14,925 At the same time, I have a feeling‐‐ 829 00:34:14,928 --> 00:34:17,138 more than a feeling‐‐ I have the data 830 00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:19,428 that suggests that there are things taking place 831 00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:21,852 all the time that are part of this puzzle, 832 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:23,351 and we want to collect as much of that as possible. 833 00:34:23,353 --> 00:34:25,563 BRYANT: That's a great idea. 834 00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:28,193 TRAVIS: So another experiment that we really should do, 835 00:34:28,191 --> 00:34:31,151 also, is that we should design 836 00:34:31,152 --> 00:34:37,162 and construct a very good, small satellite platform 837 00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:40,248 that we can get launched as a secondary payload, 838 00:34:40,245 --> 00:34:42,745 uh, pretty much for free‐‐ NASA has projects‐‐ 839 00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:44,167 especially if we involve a university. 840 00:34:44,165 --> 00:34:45,665 They'll launch it for you for free. 841 00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:46,877 You don't have to pay to get it launched. 842 00:34:46,876 --> 00:34:48,836 And‐and we would put it in an orbit 843 00:34:48,837 --> 00:34:50,547 that goes over the ranch. 844 00:34:50,547 --> 00:34:51,917 BRANDON: Wow. 845 00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:53,883 TRAVIS: And so that we would 846 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:55,683 continually get data from it. 847 00:34:55,677 --> 00:34:56,797 Wow. 848 00:34:56,803 --> 00:34:59,563 TRAVIS: I want to try and 849 00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:02,346 reproduce stimulating the phenomenon. 850 00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:05,650 Like the rocket test day, where we were 851 00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:07,395 doing measurements with the rockets, 852 00:35:07,397 --> 00:35:10,477 and then, suddenly, we see so many phenomena. 853 00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:13,073 I want to see if we can reproduce that. 854 00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:15,859 Thomas has‐has said before, maybe the ranch 855 00:35:15,864 --> 00:35:19,414 gets immune to it and we have to bring it up a notch each time. 856 00:35:19,409 --> 00:35:22,659 You know, do we do twice as many rockets the next time? 857 00:35:22,662 --> 00:35:24,962 Or do we do one bigger rocket? 858 00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:27,416 ‐That is something we should really look at. ‐Right. 859 00:35:27,417 --> 00:35:29,337 SEGALA: So what I would propose, 860 00:35:29,336 --> 00:35:32,416 I think that it's important that we have a medical program 861 00:35:32,422 --> 00:35:34,972 with protocols in place before anybody 862 00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:37,506 steps back on that ranch in a significant way. 863 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:39,220 BRANDON: Yeah, health and safety 864 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,560 is going to be important, especially given the fact that 865 00:35:41,556 --> 00:35:43,426 Tom and Travis 866 00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:45,983 both went to the hospital as a result 867 00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:48,977 of the activities over the last few months. 868 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:51,320 TRAVIS: It would've been great to have had 869 00:35:51,316 --> 00:35:52,976 my vitals and all that 870 00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:55,494 being recorded when the dosimeter went off, 871 00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:57,317 and said I was exposed to radiation. 872 00:35:57,322 --> 00:35:58,992 SEGALA: There is something going on. 873 00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:01,080 It seems to emanate from the ground. 874 00:36:01,076 --> 00:36:04,196 How can we learn more about it? 875 00:36:04,204 --> 00:36:06,214 TRAVIS: That's what I want to know‐‐ how can we get 876 00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:07,956 a really deep core sample? 877 00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:10,747 Like, like, can we dig really, really, really deep? 878 00:36:10,752 --> 00:36:12,462 BRYANT: How do you feel about 879 00:36:12,462 --> 00:36:14,922 doing that digging, though, or would you want to hire somebody? 880 00:36:14,923 --> 00:36:16,843 Because even when we did the core drilling, 881 00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:20,181 you know, you chose to position yourself away. 882 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:21,758 And you're the one that has suffered 883 00:36:21,763 --> 00:36:23,063 the ramifications of the digging 884 00:36:23,056 --> 00:36:24,886 and this goes way back to what we talked about 885 00:36:24,891 --> 00:36:26,851 when we first began this exercise. 886 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:29,271 I don't want to put you in harm's way. 887 00:36:38,154 --> 00:36:40,414 YANT: How do you feel about doing that digging? 888 00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:43,237 I don't want to put you in harm's way. 889 00:36:43,243 --> 00:36:46,293 I don't want you to feel like you're pushed into that. 890 00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:47,707 THOMAS: Well, the points 891 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:49,826 that we identified are not that deep. 892 00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:51,503 They're not that far down. 893 00:36:51,501 --> 00:36:53,591 15, 20 feet is not a big deal. 894 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:55,376 I'm just gonna wear my tinfoil hard hat. 895 00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:59,050 (laughter) 896 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:00,720 THOMAS: I do have a lot of people around me 897 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,219 that think, without a doubt, 898 00:37:03,221 --> 00:37:05,221 my injury was tied to the digging. 899 00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:07,853 Well, it's not conclusive that it was the digging. 900 00:37:07,851 --> 00:37:10,021 So that's why there's part of me that said, 901 00:37:10,019 --> 00:37:12,649 "Yeah, I would, I'd just be very cautious." 902 00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:15,937 I have a question for you guys, though. 903 00:37:15,942 --> 00:37:19,322 For the first time since you've owned the ranch, 904 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,160 this is the largest group of people to be on that ranch. 905 00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:23,987 And I know, you know, you were, 906 00:37:23,992 --> 00:37:25,952 you were giving me a hard time at the beginning 907 00:37:25,952 --> 00:37:27,622 'cause you said it's almost like 908 00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:29,290 you guys talk as if this ranch has a personality. 909 00:37:29,289 --> 00:37:31,669 Because we talked about how when you introduce... 910 00:37:31,666 --> 00:37:34,496 ‐It responds, yeah. ‐...somebody new, the ranch responds. 911 00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:37,012 ‐It's not a person. ‐It's a place, it's not a, it's not a, an entity. 912 00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:39,545 But it responded. 913 00:37:39,549 --> 00:37:42,389 ‐Yeah. ‐I have to tell you guys, 914 00:37:42,385 --> 00:37:44,095 when Brandon first invited me in, 915 00:37:44,095 --> 00:37:45,505 the first day I came in here, 916 00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:48,353 I honestly didn't know what to expect. 917 00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:51,439 But I didn't think you guys were really onto 918 00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:54,146 what you were onto because I don't believe 919 00:37:54,147 --> 00:37:58,397 99% of the things that people claim they've seen, right? 920 00:37:58,401 --> 00:38:01,701 I think this is in that one percent 921 00:38:01,696 --> 00:38:03,906 of the unexplainable weirdness‐‐ the "what is it?" 922 00:38:03,907 --> 00:38:05,907 And now we've 923 00:38:05,909 --> 00:38:08,749 got indisputable evidence 924 00:38:08,745 --> 00:38:12,455 that there is a real phenomenon that's happening 925 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:13,917 that is unexplainable. 926 00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:15,167 Whatever you want to call it. 927 00:38:15,168 --> 00:38:16,588 High strangeness? 928 00:38:16,586 --> 00:38:18,796 It's real and it's there. 929 00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:21,757 And I think the ramifications of it is world‐changing. 930 00:38:21,758 --> 00:38:23,428 Agreed. 931 00:38:23,426 --> 00:38:25,216 And I'll tell you what I told you 932 00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:26,890 when we started on this adventure. 933 00:38:26,888 --> 00:38:28,768 I truly believe now more than ever, 934 00:38:28,765 --> 00:38:31,515 if this ranch can help us better understand 935 00:38:31,518 --> 00:38:33,598 the nature of the universe, 936 00:38:33,603 --> 00:38:35,773 and perhaps confirm that we're not alone, 937 00:38:35,772 --> 00:38:38,402 this will indeed be 938 00:38:38,399 --> 00:38:42,199 the greatest science project and endeavor of all time. 939 00:38:43,738 --> 00:38:45,568 ‐Right. ‐And... 940 00:38:45,573 --> 00:38:48,033 as we move forward and take next steps, 941 00:38:48,034 --> 00:38:50,084 we appreciate you coming in and spending the time. 942 00:38:50,078 --> 00:38:51,828 Well, you have my personal interest, Brandon. 943 00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:55,000 And I just want to make sure you all understand, 944 00:38:54,999 --> 00:38:56,669 I take this very seriously. 945 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:59,628 And so, as you all continue 946 00:38:59,629 --> 00:39:01,509 to validate, replicate, uh... 947 00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:05,426 and investigate, uh, even more, I am anxious to see 948 00:39:05,426 --> 00:39:07,846 what the next... step brings. 949 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:11,806 And I think that only helps the entire state. 950 00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,058 ‐So thanks very much. ‐Thank you very much. 951 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:16,150 ‐We appreciate that endorsement. ‐BRANDON: Thank you. 952 00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:18,225 We'll continue to keep you informed, 953 00:39:18,231 --> 00:39:20,941 as to what we continue to observe. 954 00:39:20,942 --> 00:39:24,322 And, ultimately, what we discover as we move forward. 955 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,070 ‐Let's go. ‐BRANDON: Thank you, gentlemen. 956 00:39:26,072 --> 00:39:28,242 Great, looking forward to it. 957 00:39:28,241 --> 00:39:30,661 BRANDON: Given the extraordinary events that have been observed 958 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,000 and recorded over the last several months, 959 00:39:32,996 --> 00:39:34,536 I believe that we 960 00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:37,129 have a responsibility to take this forward 961 00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:39,995 in a, in a more aggressive fashion. 962 00:39:41,087 --> 00:39:43,337 It's not a matter of if 963 00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:45,089 something is going to happen. 964 00:39:45,091 --> 00:39:48,091 It's a matter of when that will happen 965 00:39:48,094 --> 00:39:50,104 and if we are truly prepared. 966 00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:51,346 ‐There it is! ‐There it is again. 967 00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:53,267 It is clearly a beam. 968 00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:54,516 SEGALA: This was an amazing summer. 969 00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:55,727 Ignition! 970 00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:56,937 I think the pinnacle 971 00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:59,686 was that we actually saw UFOs. 972 00:39:59,689 --> 00:40:01,269 ‐Look, look, look! ‐What is that? 973 00:40:01,274 --> 00:40:02,984 Now that we know exactly what they look like 974 00:40:02,984 --> 00:40:04,944 in the sky, we can start tracking these things. 975 00:40:04,944 --> 00:40:07,074 We can actually set up a system 976 00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:09,121 that can communicate with them 977 00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:11,115 in some regard, by sending them signals 978 00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:12,907 to see if they respond. 979 00:40:12,911 --> 00:40:15,291 ‐There it is again! ‐SEGALA: That would be 980 00:40:15,288 --> 00:40:18,168 the next step in this evolution of trying 981 00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:19,826 to figure out what they are doing here, 982 00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:21,384 and why they picked this ranch 983 00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:23,497 or this area to do it. 984 00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:25,884 BRYANT: When I first came to the ranch, 985 00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:28,262 I was kind of an agnostic, when it came to the place. 986 00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:31,099 It's not that I didn't believe that things were happening, 987 00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:34,135 but they sounded pretty amazing and outlandish to me. 988 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:35,520 Oh‐oh, right here, over here! 989 00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:37,846 ‐Right there. ‐That's it. 990 00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:40,232 But after experiencing what I did this summer, 991 00:40:40,229 --> 00:40:42,979 there's no doubt in my mind that there's a phenomenon 992 00:40:42,982 --> 00:40:44,862 or something taking place there 993 00:40:44,859 --> 00:40:46,989 that has completely shaken my understanding 994 00:40:46,986 --> 00:40:48,566 on what reality really is. 995 00:40:48,571 --> 00:40:50,071 You got to see a UFO, dude. 996 00:40:50,073 --> 00:40:51,953 Dumbfounded, yeah, it's crazy. 997 00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:55,200 As we move forward, I think that we could really 998 00:40:55,203 --> 00:40:57,253 uncover something that could 999 00:40:57,246 --> 00:41:01,206 make people like myself see the world differently. 1000 00:41:01,209 --> 00:41:02,589 Tom, you all right? 1001 00:41:02,585 --> 00:41:05,415 Well, let's get you the heck out of here, man. 1002 00:41:05,421 --> 00:41:06,461 THOMAS: Well, as they say, 1003 00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:08,764 we've opened up a can. 1004 00:41:08,758 --> 00:41:11,088 And we have just begun 1005 00:41:11,094 --> 00:41:14,104 to scratch the surface of what's happening here. 1006 00:41:14,097 --> 00:41:17,427 For every answer that we're getting in our investigation, 1007 00:41:17,433 --> 00:41:19,893 we're creating ten more questions. 1008 00:41:19,894 --> 00:41:21,854 What in the world? It's just dead. 1009 00:41:21,854 --> 00:41:24,074 THOMAS: And who knows 1010 00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:26,815 what crazy and amazing things are in store. 1011 00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:28,948 ‐Audio beacon is on. ‐Let it rip. 1012 00:41:28,945 --> 00:41:32,565 Ain't that cool. 1013 00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:34,243 It's absolutely inconceivable... 1014 00:41:34,242 --> 00:41:36,242 ‐Oh! ‐...the amount of things 1015 00:41:36,244 --> 00:41:39,414 that we experienced and saw and measured over the summer. 1016 00:41:39,414 --> 00:41:42,884 This looks like there's something a thousand feet long. 1017 00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:46,125 We have indisputable proof that there is an unusual phenomenon 1018 00:41:46,129 --> 00:41:49,219 that is not a normal occurrence. 1019 00:41:49,215 --> 00:41:51,255 I'm excited about it. 1020 00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:53,889 I can't wait to go back and do more experiments. 1021 00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:56,556 I can't wait to see what is out there. 1022 00:41:56,556 --> 00:41:59,136 Skinwalker Ranch may hold secrets to the universe 1023 00:41:59,142 --> 00:42:01,352 that we've yet to uncover. 1024 00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:05,152 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 77882

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