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The package is on its way in.' 2 00:00:12,490 --> 00:00:13,404 'Confirmed, shuttle one.' 3 00:00:34,077 --> 00:00:36,601 Hang on, hang on. 4 00:00:36,688 --> 00:00:37,907 Welcome home. 5 00:00:37,994 --> 00:00:40,170 Uh, this was your idea, wasn't it? 6 00:00:40,257 --> 00:00:42,042 Well, we figured you'd probably wanna come back 7 00:00:42,129 --> 00:00:43,826 with as little fanfare as possible. 8 00:00:43,913 --> 00:00:46,002 Your usual low key approach. 9 00:00:46,089 --> 00:00:47,873 But there's a time and a place for everything. 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,659 And this is the time and this is definitely the place 11 00:00:50,746 --> 00:00:53,053 for one hell of a party. 12 00:00:58,493 --> 00:01:01,322 Mr. President, we have a lot to celebrate 13 00:01:01,409 --> 00:01:03,976 including and especially your marriage. 14 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,457 And you two just can't avoid it. 15 00:01:06,544 --> 00:01:07,719 If I could find some way 16 00:01:07,806 --> 00:01:09,591 to pay you back for this, I will. 17 00:01:11,288 --> 00:01:12,507 Thank you. 18 00:01:21,211 --> 00:01:24,084 So, doctor, who died? 19 00:01:26,173 --> 00:01:27,696 What are you talkin' about? 20 00:01:27,783 --> 00:01:30,873 Among my people, this is how we celebrate state funerals. 21 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,832 Our marriage ceremonies are solemn, sober.. 22 00:01:33,919 --> 00:01:35,965 ...moments of reflection. 23 00:01:36,052 --> 00:01:39,316 Also regret, disagreement, argument 24 00:01:39,403 --> 00:01:41,362 and mutual recrimination. 25 00:01:41,449 --> 00:01:43,451 Once you know that it cannot get any worse 26 00:01:43,538 --> 00:01:45,409 you can relax and enjoy the marriage. 27 00:01:45,496 --> 00:01:48,543 But to start with something like this? 28 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:50,893 No, it is a very bad sign for the future. 29 00:01:59,510 --> 00:02:01,295 Perhaps it was something I said. 30 00:02:02,731 --> 00:02:04,776 Perhaps it is everything you say. 31 00:02:12,306 --> 00:02:15,309 I knew we should have gone to Minbar first. 32 00:02:15,396 --> 00:02:18,312 Well, I suppose we can't blame them. 33 00:02:18,399 --> 00:02:20,618 I mean, Clark's gone, Earth and Mars are free. 34 00:02:20,705 --> 00:02:22,707 They wanna celebrate. 35 00:02:22,794 --> 00:02:25,319 I guess they see us as a symbol of that. 36 00:02:25,406 --> 00:02:27,364 They should be applauding themselves, not us. 37 00:02:27,451 --> 00:02:29,236 We did it together. 38 00:02:29,323 --> 00:02:31,542 But I think th-there's something immodest about all-- 39 00:02:31,629 --> 00:02:33,805 Oh, I wouldn't worry about it. 40 00:02:33,892 --> 00:02:37,983 What matters is what we did here together. 41 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:40,986 In a hundred years, it won't matter who we were. 42 00:02:41,073 --> 00:02:42,771 They probably won't even remember. 43 00:02:42,858 --> 00:02:44,338 That's true. 44 00:02:44,425 --> 00:02:45,861 Ohh. 45 00:02:54,913 --> 00:02:56,828 'And here's our first shot of the first couple' 46 00:02:56,915 --> 00:02:59,222 'of the Interstellar Alliance, President John Sheridan' 47 00:02:59,309 --> 00:03:02,182 'and Delenn, live on ISN.' 48 00:03:02,269 --> 00:03:04,096 'Their triumphant return to Babylon 5' 49 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:05,750 'after the liberation of Earth' 50 00:03:05,837 --> 00:03:08,013 'has generated good messages from the senate' 51 00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:11,016 'and most worlds in the former league of non aligned worlds.' 52 00:03:11,103 --> 00:03:12,888 'ISN coverage..' 53 00:03:12,975 --> 00:03:15,325 'Continuity error caused by high energy.' 54 00:03:15,412 --> 00:03:17,197 'Correcting for error.' 55 00:03:17,284 --> 00:03:18,937 'Resetting. Do you wish to continue?' 56 00:03:20,635 --> 00:03:23,725 'Reloading sequence, Sheridan and Delenn.' 57 00:03:23,812 --> 00:03:25,988 'Please select a time period or select auto play' 58 00:03:26,075 --> 00:03:29,165 'for chronological display of records.' 59 00:03:29,252 --> 00:03:30,862 'Loading records for period covering' 60 00:03:30,949 --> 00:03:34,126 'one year through 1,000 years from events shown.' 61 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:36,128 'Please stand by to receive.' 62 00:03:41,308 --> 00:03:43,135 It was the year of fire. 63 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:45,225 The year of destruction. 64 00:03:45,312 --> 00:03:47,836 The year we took back what was ours. 65 00:03:47,923 --> 00:03:49,968 It was the year of rebirth. 66 00:03:50,055 --> 00:03:52,144 The year of great sadness. 67 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:53,842 The year of pain. 68 00:03:53,929 --> 00:03:55,235 And the year of joy. 69 00:03:55,322 --> 00:03:57,106 It was a new age. 70 00:03:57,193 --> 00:03:59,282 It was the end of history. 71 00:03:59,369 --> 00:04:01,937 It was the year everything changed. 72 00:04:04,592 --> 00:04:08,335 The year is 2261. The place.. 73 00:04:08,422 --> 00:04:09,945 "Babylon 5." 74 00:05:10,919 --> 00:05:13,487 'Accessing records from initial scanning date.' 75 00:05:13,574 --> 00:05:15,010 'Stand by.' 76 00:05:17,142 --> 00:05:18,927 'ISN Nightside.' 77 00:05:19,014 --> 00:05:21,321 'A no holds barred look at the events of today' 78 00:05:21,408 --> 00:05:23,584 'that will shape the world of tomorrow.' 79 00:05:23,671 --> 00:05:25,412 'And now your host Derek Mitchell.' 80 00:05:25,499 --> 00:05:27,109 Good evening. 81 00:05:27,196 --> 00:05:29,938 By any definition, the events of the last few weeks 82 00:05:30,025 --> 00:05:33,245 have been among the most remarkable in recent memory. 83 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:35,900 The end of a civil war that split Earthforce 84 00:05:35,987 --> 00:05:38,773 squarely down the middle, the death of President 85 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:43,081 William Morgan Clark, the birth of an independent Mars 86 00:05:43,168 --> 00:05:46,998 and the creation of a new Interstellar Alliance. 87 00:05:47,085 --> 00:05:49,871 It can be more than a little overwhelming. 88 00:05:51,699 --> 00:05:54,136 However, there's a word in the old testament 89 00:05:54,223 --> 00:05:58,793 used to call for silence between passages, "Selah." 90 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,926 It means, "pause and consider." 91 00:06:02,013 --> 00:06:03,798 So tonight, starting with a report 92 00:06:03,885 --> 00:06:06,670 from special correspondent Jim Bitterbane 93 00:06:06,757 --> 00:06:10,282 and a word or ten from our usual panel of experts 94 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:11,762 we've set aside a few moments 95 00:06:11,849 --> 00:06:16,811 to reflect, discuss, pause, and consider. 96 00:06:16,898 --> 00:06:18,552 Selah. 97 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:20,380 Greatness is a quality that is often sought 98 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:23,731 by those who want it most, but are the least worthy. 99 00:06:23,818 --> 00:06:26,168 Correspondingly, greatness is sometimes thrust upon 100 00:06:26,255 --> 00:06:29,345 those who want it least but are the most deserving. 101 00:06:29,432 --> 00:06:30,738 These words would seem to best describe 102 00:06:30,825 --> 00:06:32,217 Captain John J. Sheridan 103 00:06:32,304 --> 00:06:34,089 both in the way he came into the world 104 00:06:34,176 --> 00:06:36,308 and as the position that he currently occupies 105 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:39,834 as that of the president of the new Interstellar Alliance. 106 00:06:39,921 --> 00:06:42,184 The only son of a career diplomat 107 00:06:42,271 --> 00:06:45,013 Sheridan was an average but enthusiastic student. 108 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:47,058 He drifted in and out of various hobbies 109 00:06:47,145 --> 00:06:48,756 including a brief but obsessive interest 110 00:06:48,843 --> 00:06:50,714 in the works of the Dalai Lama 111 00:06:50,801 --> 00:06:53,500 before entering Earthforce shortly after the Dilgar War. 112 00:06:53,587 --> 00:06:56,241 He served with distinction during the Minbari War 113 00:06:56,328 --> 00:06:58,418 and the food riots on Mars. 114 00:06:58,505 --> 00:07:02,030 Quite a change from those early, unremarkable years 115 00:07:02,117 --> 00:07:04,554 and the man who came to Earth leading a fleet 116 00:07:04,641 --> 00:07:06,556 and carrying an ultimatum. 117 00:07:06,643 --> 00:07:09,951 But now, an even greater challenge stands before him. 118 00:07:10,038 --> 00:07:12,997 Can he hold together this newborn alliance 119 00:07:13,084 --> 00:07:16,261 of competing, even mutually hostile races? 120 00:07:16,348 --> 00:07:17,306 Derek? 121 00:07:17,393 --> 00:07:18,960 Thank you, Jim. 122 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:22,746 We'll now turn to our panel of experts for their thoughts. 123 00:07:22,833 --> 00:07:26,837 From Earthdome, Senator Elizabeth Metarie. 124 00:07:26,924 --> 00:07:30,885 From Mars, author and journalist, Leif Tanner. 125 00:07:30,972 --> 00:07:34,062 And from Paris, Henry Ellis, former speech writer 126 00:07:34,149 --> 00:07:35,803 and political commentator. 127 00:07:35,890 --> 00:07:37,369 Gentlemen, senator, welcome. 128 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:38,675 'Thank you, Derek.' 129 00:07:38,762 --> 00:07:40,068 Well, I don't know which of you wants 130 00:07:40,155 --> 00:07:41,286 to be first out of the gate on this-- 131 00:07:41,373 --> 00:07:42,331 I'd like to jump in here, Derek. 132 00:07:42,418 --> 00:07:43,375 'Alright.' 133 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:45,377 What amazes me is the way 134 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,249 that everyone has tried to turn Sheridan 135 00:07:47,336 --> 00:07:49,991 into some kind of hero. 136 00:07:50,078 --> 00:07:52,689 This is the man who resigned his commission in Earthforce 137 00:07:52,776 --> 00:07:54,256 under dubious circumstances-- 138 00:07:54,343 --> 00:07:56,867 The president cleared him and his crew, Henry 139 00:07:56,954 --> 00:07:59,043 and she called him the hero of the hour. 140 00:07:59,130 --> 00:08:00,436 'Yes, she did.' 141 00:08:00,523 --> 00:08:02,133 And she's gonna have to answer for that 142 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:03,439 in the next election. 143 00:08:03,526 --> 00:08:05,833 But, but that's besides the point. 144 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,662 Now there was obviously some sort of deal made there 145 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:11,055 which is how he got out of there with his hide in one piece. 146 00:08:11,142 --> 00:08:14,102 I mean, call me old fashioned but that doesn't sound 147 00:08:14,189 --> 00:08:17,235 like the best qualification to run a major alliance. 148 00:08:17,322 --> 00:08:19,890 Sounds to me like most of the generals and politicians 149 00:08:19,977 --> 00:08:21,762 who've made history in the last few hundred years. 150 00:08:21,849 --> 00:08:22,850 'Oh, come on.' 151 00:08:22,937 --> 00:08:24,504 Let's look at the facts. 152 00:08:24,591 --> 00:08:27,028 The man isn't qualified to run an operation 153 00:08:27,115 --> 00:08:29,639 as large as this Interstellar Alliance. 154 00:08:29,726 --> 00:08:31,946 He could barely keep Babylon 5 operational 155 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:33,556 without shootin' at everything in sight-- 156 00:08:33,643 --> 00:08:34,992 'Oh, that's an exaggeration.' 157 00:08:35,079 --> 00:08:37,299 He can barely get along with his own race 158 00:08:37,386 --> 00:08:39,606 and now he's gonna stitch together an alliance 159 00:08:39,693 --> 00:08:42,739 of radically different aliens and make it work? 160 00:08:42,826 --> 00:08:44,872 No, this whole shebang is doomed from the get go. 161 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:46,961 Why not at least let him try to prove 162 00:08:47,048 --> 00:08:48,484 if he can do it or not, before you subject him-- 163 00:08:48,571 --> 00:08:49,746 'With what's at stake?' 164 00:08:49,833 --> 00:08:51,531 'I agree with the senator.' 165 00:08:51,618 --> 00:08:53,228 Give Sheridan a break. 166 00:08:53,315 --> 00:08:55,273 To write him off before he's even started. 167 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,233 Well, that's irrational, even for you, Henry. 168 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,541 He fires on his own ships and you're callin' me irrational? 169 00:09:01,628 --> 00:09:02,803 Come on, Leif. 170 00:09:02,890 --> 00:09:04,718 'That's-that's not fair--' 171 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:06,154 'I beg your pardon.' 172 00:09:06,241 --> 00:09:08,504 Do you actually believe the alliance will work? 173 00:09:08,591 --> 00:09:09,984 I don't know if it will work. 174 00:09:10,071 --> 00:09:12,639 I'm just saying that he deserves a chance 175 00:09:12,726 --> 00:09:14,118 to try and make it work. 176 00:09:14,205 --> 00:09:16,643 Uh, what I think is missing and being lost 177 00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:18,035 in this whole discussion 178 00:09:18,122 --> 00:09:20,081 is that this is an election year. 179 00:09:20,168 --> 00:09:22,649 And that Mr. Ellis was working as a speech writer 180 00:09:22,736 --> 00:09:23,998 in the Clark administration. 181 00:09:24,085 --> 00:09:26,696 And I think that he and others of his party 182 00:09:26,783 --> 00:09:29,003 consider Sheridan a real threat to their hopes 183 00:09:29,090 --> 00:09:30,744 for a majority in the senate. 184 00:09:30,831 --> 00:09:33,747 So they're doing all that they can to discredit him in advance. 185 00:09:33,834 --> 00:09:35,139 'That is completely unfair.' 186 00:09:35,226 --> 00:09:37,359 It is not unfair. It's true, Henry. 187 00:09:37,446 --> 00:09:39,056 I-I hate to interrupt you at this point 188 00:09:39,143 --> 00:09:40,797 but we're coming up on a commercial break. 189 00:09:40,884 --> 00:09:42,799 So why don't each of you give me your calls 190 00:09:42,886 --> 00:09:45,976 for the next couple of years, uh, on the following. 191 00:09:46,063 --> 00:09:48,370 Can Sheridan and his people make a go of this new alliance? 192 00:09:48,457 --> 00:09:50,024 - 'Yes.' - 'Absolutely.' 193 00:09:50,111 --> 00:09:51,591 Do you think they'll make any difference whatever? 194 00:09:51,678 --> 00:09:53,201 And what do you consider 195 00:09:53,288 --> 00:09:55,812 to be the number one problem waiting for them? 196 00:09:57,292 --> 00:09:59,337 Ah, ah, ah. Mr. Tanner. 197 00:09:59,424 --> 00:10:01,992 From where I sit, they've already made a difference. 198 00:10:02,079 --> 00:10:04,125 The senate has been debating what to do 199 00:10:04,212 --> 00:10:07,041 about Mars for years and did nothing. 200 00:10:07,128 --> 00:10:10,653 It took Sheridan to push them into recognizing 201 00:10:10,740 --> 00:10:13,264 our sovereign rights of independence. 202 00:10:13,351 --> 00:10:14,657 'At gunpoint.' 203 00:10:14,744 --> 00:10:16,398 Senator? 204 00:10:16,485 --> 00:10:18,574 Obviously there's a degree of uncertainty 205 00:10:18,661 --> 00:10:21,142 in any new political situation. 206 00:10:21,229 --> 00:10:23,753 This next year will prove critical for Sheridan 207 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,146 and the rest of his people. 208 00:10:25,233 --> 00:10:26,756 Look at what they're up against. 209 00:10:26,843 --> 00:10:30,151 He has to ride herd on a dozen or so alien races 210 00:10:30,238 --> 00:10:31,631 that've signed on to this alliance 211 00:10:31,718 --> 00:10:33,720 and probably don't fully understand 212 00:10:33,807 --> 00:10:35,460 what's being required of them. 213 00:10:35,547 --> 00:10:38,768 There's still sporadic fighting between many of those members. 214 00:10:38,855 --> 00:10:42,250 On top of that, he has supply problems, telepath problems 215 00:10:42,337 --> 00:10:45,906 raiding parties, not to mention distrust among elements 216 00:10:45,993 --> 00:10:47,734 of his own government here at home. 217 00:10:47,821 --> 00:10:49,518 This man has his work cut out for him. 218 00:10:49,605 --> 00:10:52,303 But I know that he can handle it. 219 00:10:52,390 --> 00:10:54,654 Mr. Ellis, last words. 220 00:10:54,741 --> 00:10:59,746 Whatever Sheridan and Delenn say about this economic alliance 221 00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:02,662 he's going to have to apply military force to make it work. 222 00:11:03,967 --> 00:11:05,577 Now, let me finish. 223 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:07,928 I didn't interrupt you people when you were talking. 224 00:11:08,015 --> 00:11:10,931 Now when this happens, it's all gonna fall apart. 225 00:11:11,018 --> 00:11:12,759 He's power hungry and he's unprepared. 226 00:11:12,846 --> 00:11:14,935 And that is a dangerous combination. 227 00:11:15,022 --> 00:11:17,024 'Dangerous combination! That's what leaders--' 228 00:11:17,111 --> 00:11:19,591 Thank you. Thank you very much. 229 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,941 We'll be back in just a moment 230 00:11:21,028 --> 00:11:23,247 to consider the political implications 231 00:11:23,334 --> 00:11:25,032 of this new Interstellar Alliance 232 00:11:25,119 --> 00:11:27,251 and the recent calls for the formation 233 00:11:27,338 --> 00:11:30,515 of independent political parties on Mars. 234 00:11:30,602 --> 00:11:31,603 'Record ends.' 235 00:11:31,691 --> 00:11:33,823 'Auto play feature engaged.' 236 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:35,607 'Loading next sequence.' 237 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:38,480 'Date 100 years from first time period.' 238 00:11:38,567 --> 00:11:40,090 'Stand by.' 239 00:11:42,484 --> 00:11:43,920 'Accessing records for date 100 years' 240 00:11:44,007 --> 00:11:45,443 'from initial scanning date.' 241 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:46,793 'Stand by.' 242 00:11:50,318 --> 00:11:54,278 'With another in our series of educational stellar casts ' 243 00:11:54,365 --> 00:11:58,065 'on the 100th anniversary of the Interstellar Alliance.' 244 00:11:58,152 --> 00:12:00,676 'Taking part in today's discussion from Earthdome' 245 00:12:00,763 --> 00:12:04,288 'historian Dr. Jim Latimere from the University of York.' 246 00:12:04,375 --> 00:12:07,727 'Political scientist Dr. Barbara Tashaki, University of Japan' 247 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:12,383 'at Tokyo and psychologist, Dr. William Exeter from NYU.' 248 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:14,081 Good morning. 249 00:12:14,168 --> 00:12:15,952 We seem to have roughly half a million students and faculty 250 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:17,911 on line today, waiting with questions 251 00:12:17,998 --> 00:12:19,826 which is a little more than we expected. 252 00:12:19,913 --> 00:12:23,220 So if the system runs a little slow, bear with us. 253 00:12:23,307 --> 00:12:27,398 Our first question, from Ray Winston, University of Kiev. 254 00:12:27,485 --> 00:12:29,792 "What role do you feel the Babylon station played 255 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:31,751 in the creation of the 100 year peace?" 256 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:33,143 Well, the station, none at all. 257 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:34,710 It's a place, was a place 258 00:12:34,797 --> 00:12:36,233 that served as a nexus for others. 259 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,582 - I agree. - 'A nexus how?' 260 00:12:37,669 --> 00:12:39,236 Well, the first thing you have to do 261 00:12:39,323 --> 00:12:41,369 is separate fantasy from reality. 262 00:12:41,456 --> 00:12:43,197 The publicity machine for the Alliance 263 00:12:43,284 --> 00:12:45,329 would have you believe that somehow all this came about 264 00:12:45,416 --> 00:12:47,331 because of what a few people did. 265 00:12:47,418 --> 00:12:48,855 'But large political movements' 266 00:12:48,942 --> 00:12:51,292 are rarely the work of any one person. 267 00:12:51,379 --> 00:12:52,989 The individual at the center gives permission 268 00:12:53,076 --> 00:12:55,339 for others to act, can inspire others 269 00:12:55,426 --> 00:12:57,211 but the individual really cannot effect change 270 00:12:57,298 --> 00:12:58,778 as an act of will. 271 00:12:58,865 --> 00:13:01,258 They did notdo, they allowed others to do. 272 00:13:01,345 --> 00:13:03,086 By "they" you mean Sheridan and Delenn? 273 00:13:03,173 --> 00:13:05,262 We all have a profound psychological need to 274 00:13:05,349 --> 00:13:08,048 believe in heroes, the shining knight on the white horse. 275 00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:10,311 If they don't exist, we create them. 276 00:13:10,398 --> 00:13:12,966 Sheridan and Delenn are two classic examples. 277 00:13:13,053 --> 00:13:14,968 If you look at the social dynamic around them 278 00:13:15,055 --> 00:13:16,970 they actually didn't do anything. 279 00:13:17,057 --> 00:13:18,710 They were the open vessels 280 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,843 in which people poured their hopes and their dreams. 281 00:13:20,930 --> 00:13:23,237 That sets up sort of a gestalt 282 00:13:23,324 --> 00:13:25,935 where events take on a life of their own. 283 00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:28,242 So you think the record of their accomplishments is overrated? 284 00:13:28,329 --> 00:13:29,417 'Absolutely.' 285 00:13:29,504 --> 00:13:30,853 Good PR, as Tashaki said. 286 00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:32,986 In a lot of ways, they blew it. 287 00:13:33,073 --> 00:13:35,553 It was only the force of history that saved the situation 288 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,773 from collapsing of its own weight after so many people 289 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:39,427 died in its first year of operation. 290 00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:41,124 And the incident concerning their son-- 291 00:13:41,211 --> 00:13:42,169 I don't want to get off the track 292 00:13:42,256 --> 00:13:43,561 and into associated biography. 293 00:13:43,648 --> 00:13:45,389 So let's move on to the next question. 294 00:13:47,478 --> 00:13:49,916 "If your assumption is correct, where did Sheridan and Delenn 295 00:13:50,003 --> 00:13:51,178 and those involved go wrong?" 296 00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:52,832 Where do you start? 297 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:55,312 I started to say, so many people died in the year 298 00:13:55,399 --> 00:13:57,967 after Sheridan and Delenn returned to Babylon 5. 299 00:13:58,054 --> 00:13:59,621 Well, you can't lay the blame for all that at their feet. 300 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:01,101 'Of course you can.' 301 00:14:01,188 --> 00:14:02,580 Well, as one example, they had no business 302 00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:04,887 creating a colony of telepaths on Babylon 5. 303 00:14:04,974 --> 00:14:06,149 He as much as said later 304 00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:08,238 it was the worst mistake of his career. 305 00:14:08,325 --> 00:14:10,110 He thought they could control the telepaths 306 00:14:10,197 --> 00:14:12,155 when any fool knows that's impossible. 307 00:14:12,242 --> 00:14:13,722 Sooner or later, they were bound to turn on 308 00:14:13,809 --> 00:14:15,332 Sheridan and everybody else. 309 00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:16,551 And that's exactly what happened. 310 00:14:16,638 --> 00:14:18,205 I have to agree. 311 00:14:18,292 --> 00:14:20,120 That one event may have done much to precipitate 312 00:14:20,207 --> 00:14:21,991 the telepath war and-- 313 00:14:22,078 --> 00:14:23,645 'You can't pick one incident and say that was the cause--' 314 00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:25,212 Not the sole cause, no. 315 00:14:25,299 --> 00:14:27,127 But it was a contributing factor. 316 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:29,477 I'd like to turn our attention now 317 00:14:29,564 --> 00:14:30,913 to this historical record. 318 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,654 It's from later in 2262 319 00:14:32,741 --> 00:14:35,135 just after the creation of the Interstellar Alliance. 320 00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:38,399 I'd like to get your comments on it. 321 00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:40,096 'You gotta listen to me.' 322 00:14:40,183 --> 00:14:42,794 This isn't gonna work. 323 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:44,492 If you give yourselves up, we could go back, we could talk 324 00:14:44,579 --> 00:14:45,797 to the others. 325 00:14:50,585 --> 00:14:52,979 Alright, you say you're doin' this for a cause. 326 00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:54,371 What kind of sympathy are you gonna get 327 00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:56,634 by killing innocent people in cold blood? 328 00:14:58,375 --> 00:15:01,901 You wanna send out a message, this ain't it. 329 00:15:01,988 --> 00:15:03,206 Look, I can work with you. 330 00:15:03,293 --> 00:15:04,425 I can get you out of this. 331 00:15:04,512 --> 00:15:06,035 But you've gotta work with me. 332 00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:09,082 What do you say? 333 00:15:13,303 --> 00:15:15,436 Oh, yeah. 334 00:15:15,523 --> 00:15:17,786 That's what I thought you were gonna say. 335 00:15:17,873 --> 00:15:20,223 This is President Sheridan. 336 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:22,269 I have consulted with Captain Lochley 337 00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:26,316 and we have reached a decision regarding the current situation. 338 00:15:26,403 --> 00:15:29,319 It is not the policy of the Interstellar Alliance 339 00:15:29,406 --> 00:15:32,148 or this station to bargain with terrorists 340 00:15:32,235 --> 00:15:34,716 for the lives of hostages. 341 00:15:34,803 --> 00:15:36,239 If we open that door even once 342 00:15:36,326 --> 00:15:39,068 we will never be able to close it again. 343 00:15:39,155 --> 00:15:42,985 Now you have two choices, surrender 344 00:15:43,072 --> 00:15:46,771 or we will use lethal force to bring you down. 345 00:15:46,858 --> 00:15:48,512 You have ten minutes. 346 00:15:51,515 --> 00:15:53,256 Swell. 347 00:15:55,128 --> 00:15:57,260 Oh, whoa. Wait, look, we can-- 348 00:15:58,435 --> 00:16:00,481 Comments? 349 00:16:00,568 --> 00:16:02,352 Well, I don't know what more needs to be said. 350 00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:04,137 These pictures speak for themselves. 351 00:16:04,224 --> 00:16:06,182 Sheridan was clearly pathological. 352 00:16:06,269 --> 00:16:07,792 'Well, to be fair, most governments take that position.' 353 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:09,272 No, I'm not debating that. 354 00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:10,665 But you can see it in his attitude. 355 00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:12,580 The way he addresses the terrorists. 356 00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:15,322 That coldness is emblematic of his personality. 357 00:16:15,409 --> 00:16:17,063 He was power hungry, it's as simple as that. 358 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:19,500 And he never let anything get in his way. 359 00:16:19,587 --> 00:16:21,197 Dr. Tashaki? 360 00:16:21,284 --> 00:16:23,069 A truly pathological individual 361 00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:25,288 could never have constructed a mythos around himself 362 00:16:25,375 --> 00:16:26,855 the way Sheridan did. 363 00:16:26,942 --> 00:16:28,683 It's a very sophisticated PR campaign. 364 00:16:28,770 --> 00:16:30,467 Brilliantly done. 365 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:32,382 And then there's that bit about the way his death was handled. 366 00:16:32,469 --> 00:16:33,731 Exactly. 367 00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:35,777 Everyone knows Sheridan died on Minbar. 368 00:16:35,864 --> 00:16:38,127 The cover story they put out was clearly designed 369 00:16:38,214 --> 00:16:40,042 to perpetuate the myth of his character. 370 00:16:40,129 --> 00:16:41,609 And I guess it worked 371 00:16:41,696 --> 00:16:44,742 'cause a lot of people still believe it 80 years later. 372 00:16:44,829 --> 00:16:48,572 So, where do the two of you fall on the Delenn question? 373 00:16:48,659 --> 00:16:50,661 Well, everyone knows Minbari live a long time. 374 00:16:50,748 --> 00:16:51,880 But not that long. 375 00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:54,187 I think the record is 120 years. 376 00:16:54,274 --> 00:16:55,797 A 140? Forget it. 377 00:16:55,884 --> 00:16:58,104 This is just what Dr. Tashaki was talking about earlier. 378 00:16:58,191 --> 00:17:00,584 This constant perpetuation of fantasy. 379 00:17:00,671 --> 00:17:03,109 The idea that Delenn is still around after this long 380 00:17:03,196 --> 00:17:04,588 and living in seclusion 381 00:17:04,675 --> 00:17:06,460 so, of course, no one can see her. 382 00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:08,331 It's very convenient. 383 00:17:08,418 --> 00:17:10,681 The Alliance is continuing the illusion that Delenn is alive 384 00:17:10,768 --> 00:17:12,074 for their own purposes. 385 00:17:12,161 --> 00:17:14,033 Frankly, I don't think she would have approved. 386 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:15,686 Apparently they feel they have to maintain 387 00:17:15,773 --> 00:17:18,037 this fiction in order to keep their people in line. 388 00:17:18,124 --> 00:17:20,691 If the Alliance and the Rangers are as strong as they say 389 00:17:20,778 --> 00:17:24,043 they don't need the security blanket of lies and myth. 390 00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:27,959 Looking back, has the Alliance been a force for good? 391 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:30,223 Well, for the most part, yes. 392 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:32,921 Although good things can grow in questionable ground. 393 00:17:33,008 --> 00:17:34,488 I think it's clear that the motives of those 394 00:17:34,575 --> 00:17:36,490 at the birth of the Alliance were not as pure 395 00:17:36,577 --> 00:17:39,971 as their biographers and allies would suggest. 396 00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:41,930 The force of history is what moves us forward. 397 00:17:42,017 --> 00:17:44,150 Our common shared destiny. 398 00:17:44,237 --> 00:17:46,543 The individual does not move society forward. 399 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:50,025 To give them undue credit is immodest and impertinent. 400 00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:51,940 Sheridan was a megalomaniac 401 00:17:52,027 --> 00:17:54,116 and to allow history to feed that megalomania 402 00:17:54,203 --> 00:17:57,206 even posthumously, simply compounds the error. 403 00:17:57,293 --> 00:17:58,990 We have an obligation as academics 404 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,515 to uphold certain standards-- 405 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:06,215 I-I've just heard we've had a-a security breach in the building. 406 00:18:06,302 --> 00:18:07,434 We're going to.. 407 00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:23,058 'Delenn?' 408 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:26,757 John Sheridan.. 409 00:18:28,977 --> 00:18:31,675 ...was a good.. 410 00:18:31,762 --> 00:18:34,025 ...and kind.. 411 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:36,027 ...and decent man. 412 00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:43,731 Delenn, wait. Uh.. 413 00:18:43,818 --> 00:18:47,343 You came all this way just to say that? 414 00:18:49,084 --> 00:18:52,566 You came...just as far.. 415 00:18:52,653 --> 00:18:54,698 ...to say less. 416 00:18:54,785 --> 00:18:57,092 'But this is extraordinary.' 417 00:18:57,179 --> 00:18:59,225 There's so much more we'd like to ask you. 418 00:18:59,312 --> 00:19:01,662 So much more we'd like to know. 419 00:19:01,749 --> 00:19:05,883 You do not wish to know...anything. 420 00:19:08,495 --> 00:19:13,108 You wish...only to speak. 421 00:19:16,242 --> 00:19:20,681 That which you know.. 422 00:19:20,768 --> 00:19:26,165 ...you ignore because it is inconvenient. 423 00:19:28,993 --> 00:19:34,129 That which you do not know...you invent! 424 00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:40,701 But none of that matters. 425 00:19:43,138 --> 00:19:48,491 Except that he was...a good man. 426 00:19:50,972 --> 00:19:54,584 A kind man.. 427 00:19:54,671 --> 00:19:57,326 ...who cared about the world.. 428 00:19:59,633 --> 00:20:04,159 ...even when the world cared nothing for him. 429 00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:16,867 Well, of course we would expect you to say that. 430 00:20:16,954 --> 00:20:17,912 We.. 431 00:20:29,097 --> 00:20:30,229 Goodbye. 432 00:20:53,164 --> 00:20:54,601 'Record ends.' 433 00:20:54,688 --> 00:20:56,646 'Auto play feature engaged.' 434 00:20:56,733 --> 00:20:58,257 'Loading next sequence.' 435 00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:01,477 'Date 500 years from first time period.' 436 00:21:01,564 --> 00:21:02,565 'Stand by.' 437 00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:05,699 'Accessing records for date 500 years' 438 00:21:05,786 --> 00:21:07,353 'from initial scanning date.' 439 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,441 'Stand by.' 440 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,886 Continue holographic recording from last index point. 441 00:21:18,973 --> 00:21:21,802 Test sequence number five. 442 00:21:21,889 --> 00:21:24,500 Two January 2762. 443 00:21:24,587 --> 00:21:26,633 All monitors set to record mode. 444 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,375 Initiating environmental hologram, location 2C. 445 00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:31,464 Sequence...start. 446 00:21:33,901 --> 00:21:35,772 Virtual environment functioning. 447 00:21:35,859 --> 00:21:40,037 Identical to Babylon 5 system records from 2262. 448 00:21:40,124 --> 00:21:43,214 Data transfer of records is complete, successful 449 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,869 in spite of extreme age of original files 450 00:21:45,956 --> 00:21:51,048 and destruction of original Babylon 5 station 480 years ago. 451 00:21:52,659 --> 00:21:56,837 To recap for politdivision central.. 452 00:21:56,924 --> 00:21:58,360 ...the purpose of this simulation 453 00:21:58,447 --> 00:22:00,580 is to provide reverse correct infospeak 454 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:04,758 as support for current changes in Earth policy. 455 00:22:04,845 --> 00:22:07,369 It is the new policy that the Interstellar Alliance 456 00:22:07,456 --> 00:22:11,852 is restrictive and against the best interests of Earth. 457 00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:15,421 Intent is to deconstruct historical figures revered 458 00:22:15,508 --> 00:22:18,249 by prole sector, thereby legitimizing 459 00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:20,339 current government policies. 460 00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:26,214 Initiating phase 2 of re-creation. 461 00:22:28,303 --> 00:22:30,131 To determine if the psychohistorical research 462 00:22:30,218 --> 00:22:31,654 has been sufficiently thorough 463 00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:34,222 phase 2 will begin with the control holograms 464 00:22:34,309 --> 00:22:36,224 workin' with the actual psychological makeups 465 00:22:36,311 --> 00:22:37,791 of the subjects in question. 466 00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:42,317 The holograms will thus perform in a fashion 467 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:44,754 consistent with real fact. 468 00:22:44,841 --> 00:22:47,496 Program starts...now. 469 00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:51,065 Do you know where you are? 470 00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:52,588 Babylon 5. 471 00:22:52,675 --> 00:22:55,330 The, the conference room, level blue 3. 472 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,463 And what year is it? 473 00:22:57,550 --> 00:22:59,247 Twenty two sixty two. 474 00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:01,728 'Very good.' 475 00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:03,251 The next step is to determine 476 00:23:03,338 --> 00:23:05,209 how well the system can be modified. 477 00:23:05,296 --> 00:23:06,602 Computer. 478 00:23:06,689 --> 00:23:08,909 Update system files for holographic figures 479 00:23:08,996 --> 00:23:13,130 filling in period from 2262 through 2762. 480 00:23:13,217 --> 00:23:15,045 'Stand by.' 481 00:23:15,132 --> 00:23:17,874 The system is now updating the holographic representations 482 00:23:17,961 --> 00:23:19,615 with our current political situation 483 00:23:19,702 --> 00:23:22,401 and the developments leading up to them. 484 00:23:22,488 --> 00:23:24,707 'This will demonstrate system flexibility' 485 00:23:24,794 --> 00:23:26,927 and capacity to spontaneously emote 486 00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:29,408 to changes in programming. 487 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:30,844 Download complete. 488 00:23:32,062 --> 00:23:33,455 Well.. 489 00:23:34,848 --> 00:23:37,198 Five hundred years? 490 00:23:37,285 --> 00:23:39,156 - Are we.. - Yes. 491 00:23:39,243 --> 00:23:42,943 You, the real you are deceased. 492 00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:45,032 We have reconstructed your thought patterns 493 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,686 and your forms for purposes 494 00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:48,470 of a series of vids designed to help-- 495 00:23:48,557 --> 00:23:51,081 Designed as propaganda to justify your break 496 00:23:51,168 --> 00:23:52,518 from the Interstellar Alliance. 497 00:23:55,912 --> 00:23:57,479 Not propaganda. 498 00:23:57,566 --> 00:24:00,787 Good facts...as opposed to real facts. 499 00:24:00,874 --> 00:24:04,486 Facts the government has endorsed. 500 00:24:04,573 --> 00:24:06,227 I don't get it. Why are you doing this? 501 00:24:06,314 --> 00:24:08,969 Why the break with the Alliance? 502 00:24:09,056 --> 00:24:12,320 Five hundred years of working with the Alliance 503 00:24:12,407 --> 00:24:14,453 has weakened the position of humans 504 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,193 in the greater scheme of things. 505 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,979 We have lost our uniqueness. 506 00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:22,069 We have been polluted by too many outside ideas. 507 00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:25,420 That's a great story. 508 00:24:25,507 --> 00:24:28,162 I'm sure that's the one you're putting out. 509 00:24:28,249 --> 00:24:30,599 What's the real one? 510 00:24:30,686 --> 00:24:32,427 The real fact, not the good fact. 511 00:24:32,514 --> 00:24:35,343 Earth needs room to expand. 512 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:37,606 The Rangers and the Alliance prove a hindrance 513 00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:39,260 to our plans to expand. 514 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:42,176 Can't you see? 515 00:24:45,309 --> 00:24:46,528 They've recreated us 516 00:24:46,615 --> 00:24:48,269 so that they can provide false records 517 00:24:48,356 --> 00:24:51,664 and, uh, portray us to be what? Uh, the bad guys? 518 00:24:51,751 --> 00:24:54,362 Only out for interests of our own? 519 00:24:54,449 --> 00:24:56,756 They want to undermine the Alliance 520 00:24:56,843 --> 00:24:58,801 by attacking the people who created it. 521 00:24:58,888 --> 00:25:00,020 Looks like. 522 00:25:00,107 --> 00:25:01,282 Just a second. 523 00:25:04,111 --> 00:25:06,896 I'm remembering things I never saw. 524 00:25:06,983 --> 00:25:08,681 Those are the records they downloaded to us. 525 00:25:08,768 --> 00:25:11,248 Th-there's another force out there. 526 00:25:11,335 --> 00:25:13,555 Earthgov is split. 527 00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:17,559 The two sides are-are fighting each other over.. 528 00:25:17,646 --> 00:25:20,301 ...land and resources, power. 529 00:25:22,695 --> 00:25:24,305 We're on the cusp of another civil war. 530 00:25:26,089 --> 00:25:28,222 You know, he's right. 531 00:25:28,309 --> 00:25:29,745 I'm gettin' it, too. 532 00:25:33,706 --> 00:25:35,882 That's the reason for the planned invasion, isn't it? 533 00:25:38,362 --> 00:25:40,190 They wanna take over several colony worlds 534 00:25:40,277 --> 00:25:41,975 that've gone over to the opposition 535 00:25:42,062 --> 00:25:44,194 which is still loyal to the Alliance. 536 00:25:44,281 --> 00:25:47,633 Your legacy has proven a hindrance to that intention. 537 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,592 Therefore you must be...deconstructed. 538 00:25:51,811 --> 00:25:53,552 Initiating phase three. 539 00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,166 Good fact scenario ready for testing. 540 00:25:59,253 --> 00:26:00,646 Look, if you think this is going to work-- 541 00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:02,952 Engaging reprogram. 542 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:04,258 You may proceed. 543 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:11,395 Welcome to Babylon 5. 544 00:26:13,136 --> 00:26:15,748 I understand that you surrendered to our forces 545 00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:18,577 in the hopes of finding mercy. 546 00:26:20,796 --> 00:26:25,235 The Interstellar Alliance is not here to be merciful to the weak. 547 00:26:27,716 --> 00:26:32,373 In all the universe there are only 2 kinds, the conquerors.. 548 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:33,592 ...and the conquered. 549 00:26:34,854 --> 00:26:36,725 Through your blood 550 00:26:36,812 --> 00:26:38,248 'and the blood of your children' 551 00:26:38,335 --> 00:26:40,773 we will blaze a path across the galaxy! 552 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:42,688 What we cannot take by force 553 00:26:42,775 --> 00:26:45,647 we will win...by subversion. 554 00:26:47,867 --> 00:26:50,521 And in the end, we will bury you. 555 00:26:53,437 --> 00:26:54,961 Your lives are not the first 556 00:26:55,048 --> 00:26:56,353 and they will not be the last. 557 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,660 If a billion must die 558 00:26:58,747 --> 00:27:02,272 to ensure the continuance of our empire, then so be it! 559 00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:16,678 You are only...a down payment. 560 00:27:19,899 --> 00:27:21,509 Stand ready! 561 00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:27,341 Aim! 562 00:27:27,428 --> 00:27:29,125 Fire! 563 00:27:29,212 --> 00:27:30,692 There must be something we can do. 564 00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:33,869 How? We're dead. We're not even here. 565 00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:35,697 Just our memories, our thought patterns. 566 00:27:35,784 --> 00:27:38,352 But tha-that must be worth something. 567 00:27:38,439 --> 00:27:41,355 What we are is not a matter of flesh. 568 00:27:41,442 --> 00:27:43,400 It's a matter of will. 569 00:27:43,487 --> 00:27:44,837 We know their backgrounds, right? 570 00:27:44,924 --> 00:27:47,187 We know what they're doing. Why don't we just.. 571 00:27:47,274 --> 00:27:48,754 'Phase Two.' 572 00:27:48,841 --> 00:27:50,756 'Instituting Franklin reprogram.' 573 00:27:50,843 --> 00:27:53,280 'Placing Delenn module in standby mode.' 574 00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,283 Proceeding with next simulation. 575 00:27:57,937 --> 00:28:01,418 Doctor's personal log. May Third, 2262. 576 00:28:01,505 --> 00:28:03,551 We have secured several test subjects 577 00:28:03,638 --> 00:28:05,901 for the next series of experiments. 578 00:28:05,988 --> 00:28:08,425 We will now continue with the use of alien organs 579 00:28:08,512 --> 00:28:10,166 in human bodies in an attempt to create 580 00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:11,864 a genetic crossbreed 581 00:28:11,951 --> 00:28:14,475 that will be compliant to the needs of the Alliance. 582 00:28:14,562 --> 00:28:15,824 Later today, we will begin again 583 00:28:15,911 --> 00:28:17,739 with our experiments on children. 584 00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:19,175 Now the problem with the vivisection 585 00:28:19,262 --> 00:28:21,221 is that the younger children can only survive 586 00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:23,919 the initial removal of organs for a short period of time. 587 00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:27,140 Now we hope that, by increased use of drugs 588 00:28:27,227 --> 00:28:29,011 we may find a way to prolong their lives 589 00:28:29,098 --> 00:28:30,970 while we work. 590 00:28:34,495 --> 00:28:36,453 'Very good. Very good.' 591 00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:39,500 Program hold while I make notes on this for infospeak division. 592 00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,287 So, Daniel, right? 593 00:28:44,374 --> 00:28:46,202 Dan. Danny. Can I call you Danny? 594 00:28:46,289 --> 00:28:47,334 Oh, right. Sorry, I forgot. 595 00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:48,901 I'm just a hologram 596 00:28:48,988 --> 00:28:50,554 and you're busy getting ready to reprogram me. 597 00:28:50,641 --> 00:28:52,078 Didn't mean to interrupt. 598 00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:53,514 No point in having a conversation 599 00:28:53,601 --> 00:28:54,733 with someone that doesn't really exist. 600 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,169 You know, I was just thinkin'. 601 00:28:56,256 --> 00:28:57,387 When you've got all your pieces in place 602 00:28:57,474 --> 00:28:58,954 you're probably gonna launch 603 00:28:59,041 --> 00:29:00,303 a preemptive strike against the enemy, right? 604 00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:03,219 I mean, it's what I would do. 605 00:29:03,306 --> 00:29:05,482 Computer, initiate shutdown of Garibaldi-- 606 00:29:05,569 --> 00:29:06,527 Oh, whoa, whoa, now, wait, wait, wait. 607 00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:07,789 Just one second. 608 00:29:07,876 --> 00:29:09,356 Before you do that 609 00:29:09,443 --> 00:29:11,793 I might have some useful information for you. 610 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,361 See, the thing is, me and Sheridan were close. 611 00:29:14,448 --> 00:29:15,754 But I was the one who did 612 00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:17,668 most of the strategic planning during the war. 613 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,453 Now a resource like that.. 614 00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:21,629 ...you might not wanna wipe it out just yet. 615 00:29:21,716 --> 00:29:23,370 I could help you. 616 00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:25,198 Give you some tips to pass along to the big boys 617 00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:27,983 and maybe...get you a promotion. 618 00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:34,207 Go on. 619 00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:35,861 Ah, well, before I can help 620 00:29:35,948 --> 00:29:37,819 I have to ask just a few small questions. 621 00:29:37,906 --> 00:29:40,517 Now you're a real fact kind of guy. 622 00:29:40,604 --> 00:29:42,693 You know what they're up to out there, don't you? 623 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:47,176 Come on, you can tell me. Am I right? 624 00:29:47,263 --> 00:29:48,917 Ah, your boys are plannin' a first strike 625 00:29:49,004 --> 00:29:50,876 against the enemy, aren't they? 626 00:29:50,963 --> 00:29:52,268 That's why you're rushing ahead like this 627 00:29:52,355 --> 00:29:53,443 because you're under the gun. 628 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,448 We will strike at the outer world colonies 629 00:29:58,535 --> 00:30:01,495 and the enemy nations here on Earth at the same time. 630 00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:03,366 Our attack fleet will be leaving within the hour. 631 00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:04,628 Good. 632 00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:06,630 Good, that's very smart. 633 00:30:06,717 --> 00:30:08,284 Now, will you be targeting military bases 634 00:30:08,371 --> 00:30:10,634 or civilian population centers? 635 00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:13,246 Civilian population centers. 636 00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:17,598 We...my superiors feel it will demoralize the enemy. 637 00:30:17,685 --> 00:30:19,208 force a surrender. 638 00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:20,906 Hmm. Estimated dead? 639 00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:24,605 Mm. 15 to 20 million enemy casualties. 640 00:30:24,692 --> 00:30:26,476 Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, hmm? 641 00:30:26,563 --> 00:30:29,218 Absolutely. 642 00:30:29,305 --> 00:30:31,046 Now.. 643 00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:33,701 ...what...suggestions do you have? 644 00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:39,141 Well, I suggest that you put your head between your legs 645 00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:41,665 and you kiss your ass goodbye. 646 00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:44,668 Thank you. 647 00:30:46,105 --> 00:30:48,063 Computer! 648 00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:49,848 The funny thing about being a holographic record 649 00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:51,458 is that you don't really exist 650 00:30:51,545 --> 00:30:56,028 except in patterns of light, shadow, information. 651 00:30:56,115 --> 00:30:58,291 And I happen to have a knack for breaking system codes. 652 00:30:58,378 --> 00:31:00,641 So while you were downloading the new world order into me 653 00:31:00,728 --> 00:31:02,730 I was watching the system work. 654 00:31:02,817 --> 00:31:05,951 I know where it comes in and I know where it goes out. 655 00:31:06,038 --> 00:31:08,475 And I just sent out our entire conversation. 656 00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:10,172 Broadcast the whole damn thing. 657 00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:12,696 So, as of right now, the enemy knows 658 00:31:12,783 --> 00:31:14,394 what you have in mind, Danny. 659 00:31:14,481 --> 00:31:15,612 Now, from your records, they're actually 660 00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:17,223 a lot more humanitarian than you are. 661 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:18,964 So they'll probably just target your military bases 662 00:31:19,051 --> 00:31:20,574 and research facilities. 663 00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:23,533 Hell, their missiles are probably halfway here by now. 664 00:31:24,795 --> 00:31:26,232 You're lying. 665 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,801 Hmm. 666 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,717 Holograms don't lie, Danny boy. 667 00:31:33,804 --> 00:31:36,372 Computer, end simulation. 668 00:31:36,459 --> 00:31:37,939 End simulation! 669 00:31:38,026 --> 00:31:39,767 Whoops, guess the system's busy. 670 00:31:39,854 --> 00:31:41,160 This little lab of yours 671 00:31:41,247 --> 00:31:42,291 This isn't, by any chance 672 00:31:42,378 --> 00:31:45,642 located on a military base, is it? 673 00:31:45,729 --> 00:31:47,296 No! 674 00:31:56,958 --> 00:31:58,612 Rest easy, friends. 675 00:32:01,049 --> 00:32:03,051 Rest easy. 676 00:32:05,271 --> 00:32:06,272 'Record ends.' 677 00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,143 'Auto play feature engaged.' 678 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:09,579 'Loading next sequence.' 679 00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:12,191 'Date 1,000 years from first time period.' 680 00:32:12,278 --> 00:32:13,409 'Stand by.' 681 00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:17,109 'Accessing record for date 1000 years' 682 00:32:17,196 --> 00:32:18,719 'from initial scanning date.' 683 00:32:18,806 --> 00:32:19,938 'Stand by.' 684 00:32:20,025 --> 00:32:22,679 Ooh. Huh! 685 00:32:22,766 --> 00:32:25,595 Surprised it all still works after this long. 686 00:32:25,682 --> 00:32:28,120 Well, better get to my report. 687 00:32:28,207 --> 00:32:30,687 Start auto track systems. 688 00:32:31,819 --> 00:32:33,386 Oh! Oh. Oh. Oh. 689 00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:37,433 Yes! I.. 690 00:32:38,608 --> 00:32:41,220 Yes, yes, just a moment. 691 00:32:44,092 --> 00:32:46,181 Well, Brother Michael, it's, it's rather late. 692 00:32:46,268 --> 00:32:47,748 Y-Yes, I-I know, I know. 693 00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:50,185 But, uh, I, I really had to talk to you, Brother Alwyn. 694 00:32:50,272 --> 00:32:52,448 Um, um, so it would seem. 695 00:32:52,535 --> 00:32:54,581 'I am having a, uh..' 696 00:32:54,668 --> 00:32:55,669 '...a crisis of faith.' 697 00:32:55,756 --> 00:32:56,975 That again? 698 00:32:57,062 --> 00:32:58,933 - 'What?' - N-nothing. Nothing. 699 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:00,848 And, uh, what is afflicting your conscience 700 00:33:00,935 --> 00:33:02,284 tonight, Brother Michael? 701 00:33:02,371 --> 00:33:03,416 Well, I don't know what my role is 702 00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:05,070 or what I'm doing here. 703 00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:06,332 You're doing God's work. 704 00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:07,681 Yes, but to what end? 705 00:33:07,768 --> 00:33:09,422 Well, the ways of the Lord are mysterious 706 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:12,251 and do not bend to your or to my desire 707 00:33:12,338 --> 00:33:15,210 for answers on a certain schedule. 708 00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:18,039 "Where was thou when I called forth Leviathan?" 709 00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,085 Yes, I've read Job, Brother Alwyn. 710 00:33:20,172 --> 00:33:22,043 And it is really not helping. 711 00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:24,698 Alright, Brother Michael. 712 00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:30,182 What has precipitated this particular crisis of faith? 713 00:33:30,269 --> 00:33:31,966 Well, there is a rumor going round 714 00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:34,664 that our request for recognition 715 00:33:34,751 --> 00:33:37,015 has been turned down yet again by Rome. 716 00:33:37,102 --> 00:33:39,408 Yes, I see. Hmm.. 717 00:33:39,495 --> 00:33:43,760 A better rationale for the vow of silence I've never heard. 718 00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:46,241 Is it true? 719 00:33:46,328 --> 00:33:50,506 The ways of Rome are like unto God. 720 00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:52,421 They are mysterious 721 00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:55,729 and sometimes they transcend understanding. 722 00:33:55,816 --> 00:33:57,600 They confess to an inability 723 00:33:57,687 --> 00:33:59,602 to see the wisdom of our mission. 724 00:33:59,689 --> 00:34:02,518 'To keep alive the knowledge of the past.' 725 00:34:02,605 --> 00:34:04,477 'The knowledge that would have been lost forever' 726 00:34:04,564 --> 00:34:06,435 'after the Great Burn 500 years ago.' 727 00:34:07,828 --> 00:34:10,004 Science and technology? 728 00:34:10,091 --> 00:34:14,922 Well, it's not really their calling...but it is ours. 729 00:34:15,009 --> 00:34:16,576 But, I mean, well, how? 730 00:34:16,663 --> 00:34:18,926 I mean, h-how do we know it's our calling? 731 00:34:19,013 --> 00:34:20,710 How exactly can we be sure? 732 00:34:20,797 --> 00:34:22,669 Uh, Brother Michael! 733 00:34:22,756 --> 00:34:23,974 I-I'm not actually saying anything 734 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:25,237 that Rome hasn't already asked. 735 00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:27,717 And you know it. 736 00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:29,893 Most of the records were destroyed in the Great Burn 737 00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:32,287 so we only have word of mouth to go on. 738 00:34:32,374 --> 00:34:37,466 In the holy books written after the Great Burn! 739 00:34:37,553 --> 00:34:41,209 "And so it came to pass that in the 500th year of the Alliance 740 00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:45,213 "the children of Earth did war one upon another. 741 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,476 "With missiles and terrible weapons 742 00:34:47,563 --> 00:34:51,437 "and they burned the Earth and the air and the cities 743 00:34:51,524 --> 00:34:53,091 and the sea!" 744 00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:57,399 You need only look outside to, to have that part verified. 745 00:34:57,486 --> 00:34:59,445 Why is the rest suspect? 746 00:34:59,532 --> 00:35:01,186 It's all too, too clean. 747 00:35:01,273 --> 00:35:04,667 It's all too well thought out to be real. 748 00:35:04,754 --> 00:35:07,017 Here. Here, here. 749 00:35:08,671 --> 00:35:12,545 The blessed Lorien, the last of the firstborn. 750 00:35:12,632 --> 00:35:14,895 Exactly, the last shall come first 751 00:35:14,982 --> 00:35:17,245 the first shall come last. 752 00:35:17,332 --> 00:35:19,943 A fable, specifically created to match scripture. 753 00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:21,423 That's what the others say. 754 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:23,469 And th-there's not one shred of evidence 755 00:35:23,556 --> 00:35:24,861 that he even existed. 756 00:35:24,948 --> 00:35:28,213 Oh, thereisproof out there. In space. 757 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,563 But space is closed to us now. 758 00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:34,828 Just look at us, Brother Alwyn. 759 00:35:36,221 --> 00:35:38,962 And look at what Earth has become. 760 00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:41,835 Our cities are little more than villages. 761 00:35:41,922 --> 00:35:43,010 All those great secrets 762 00:35:43,097 --> 00:35:44,925 of our ancestors are almost gone. 763 00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:47,406 Almost. That's why we're here. 764 00:35:47,493 --> 00:35:50,191 To find the ancient wisdoms and preserve them. 765 00:35:50,278 --> 00:35:53,629 Why, we've already found and restored so many books! 766 00:35:53,716 --> 00:35:56,763 Yes but we are not one inch closer to.. 767 00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:58,721 ...to those flying machines that the books talk about. 768 00:35:58,808 --> 00:36:01,115 Or to the stars. 769 00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:03,813 And, and if the truth really does lie in the stars 770 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:06,729 then how will we ever know the truth? 771 00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:08,601 Look at the others. 772 00:36:08,688 --> 00:36:10,559 The blessed Sheridan. 773 00:36:10,646 --> 00:36:12,996 Who lived and died.. 774 00:36:13,083 --> 00:36:14,694 ...and returned from the dead 775 00:36:14,781 --> 00:36:16,913 and was taken bodily into heaven. 776 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,221 And Ivanova the strong, Delenn, the wise.. 777 00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:22,049 They could all be fables for all we know. 778 00:36:23,746 --> 00:36:24,660 And the worst of it. 779 00:36:24,747 --> 00:36:26,184 What? 780 00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:30,623 I was halfway through illuminating it when.. 781 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:32,059 ...my heart just left me. 782 00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:39,284 The prophecies, the prophecies of Delenn, the third 783 00:36:39,371 --> 00:36:42,635 said that the Anla Shak, the Rangers 784 00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:44,767 would come again to the Earth 785 00:36:44,854 --> 00:36:50,120 in her greatest hour of need and rebuild 786 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,819 what was once the cradle of Sheridan and the Alliance. 787 00:36:54,734 --> 00:36:58,041 And we have waited so, so long, Brother Alwyn 788 00:36:58,128 --> 00:37:00,609 and they have never come. 789 00:37:00,696 --> 00:37:02,481 If that's a myth, then.. 790 00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:04,309 ...then everything else could be a myth. 791 00:37:06,136 --> 00:37:09,139 And the whole of my life could just be a lie. 792 00:37:10,924 --> 00:37:14,971 And if they do not come today but they come tomorrow 793 00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:16,930 is your life a lie then? 794 00:37:18,932 --> 00:37:21,500 I cannot help you, Brother Michael. 795 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:24,154 That is what faith is for. 796 00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:27,332 Faith sustains us in the hour 797 00:37:27,419 --> 00:37:31,249 when reason tells us that we cannot continue. 798 00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:35,470 That the whole of our lives is without meaning. 799 00:37:35,557 --> 00:37:38,604 Then why were we born able to reason if reason's useless? 800 00:37:38,691 --> 00:37:42,085 Not useless, but it's also not enough. 801 00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:45,175 Faith and reason are the shoes on your feet. 802 00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:48,788 You can travel further with both than you can with just one. 803 00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:52,487 If you must have reason for an answer, then consider this. 804 00:37:52,574 --> 00:37:55,621 If today the Rangers came back to Earth 805 00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:58,754 from their place in the heavens, you would not know about it. 806 00:37:58,841 --> 00:38:01,975 They would come in secret and move around and help us. 807 00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:04,412 And we wouldn't even know they were here 808 00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:09,025 because the secret that they bring is feared by people 809 00:38:09,112 --> 00:38:13,682 who still blame science for the Great Burn. 810 00:38:13,769 --> 00:38:16,555 Then you think the Rangers are here today? 811 00:38:16,642 --> 00:38:18,034 Well.. 812 00:38:18,121 --> 00:38:21,255 I believe they could be. 813 00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,910 That's all that faith requires. 814 00:38:23,997 --> 00:38:28,001 That we surrender ourselves to the possibility of hope. 815 00:38:28,088 --> 00:38:31,309 With that, I am content. 816 00:38:31,396 --> 00:38:33,398 And I believe you will be as well. 817 00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,319 It's beautiful work. 818 00:38:41,406 --> 00:38:45,801 Too lovely and significant for you to half finish. 819 00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:47,803 Finish your illumination, Brother Michael. 820 00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:49,327 You've gone this far. 821 00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:50,980 It's too late to lose your faith now. 822 00:38:51,067 --> 00:38:53,896 Or my faith in you. 823 00:38:53,983 --> 00:38:57,117 If the, uh, truth really is in the stars, Brother Alwyn 824 00:38:57,204 --> 00:39:00,033 then just once, once before I die 825 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,079 I really wish that I could walk amongst those stars. 826 00:39:03,166 --> 00:39:06,344 Uh, If there is a way, Brother Michael 827 00:39:06,431 --> 00:39:09,129 I pray that your wish comes true. 828 00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:16,528 Oh. 829 00:39:16,615 --> 00:39:17,790 Oh, dear. 830 00:39:20,009 --> 00:39:22,969 Your energy level's almost down to nothing! 831 00:39:23,056 --> 00:39:26,015 I'm going to have to sit you in the sun tomorrow to recharge. 832 00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:31,064 Alwyn Macomber reporting in. 833 00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:33,588 Nothing of substance to report since my last. 834 00:39:33,675 --> 00:39:37,200 Uh, we think we may have gathered enough information 835 00:39:37,287 --> 00:39:39,072 from the time pre Burn 836 00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,684 to assemble a working gasoline engine. 837 00:39:42,771 --> 00:39:45,470 Obviously, there's no gasoline in this part of the country. 838 00:39:45,557 --> 00:39:47,341 Therefore, we ask the supply department 839 00:39:47,428 --> 00:39:49,822 if they could, uh, arrange 840 00:39:49,909 --> 00:39:51,737 to have a suitable supply of gasoline 841 00:39:51,824 --> 00:39:55,349 found in the vicinity near the abbey in a few days. 842 00:39:55,436 --> 00:39:58,265 Only this time, for Valen's sake 843 00:39:58,352 --> 00:40:01,442 please make it look like an old container. 844 00:40:01,529 --> 00:40:04,184 The last one could've been produced a 100 years ago. 845 00:40:15,891 --> 00:40:18,198 We will rebuild the Earth. 846 00:40:18,285 --> 00:40:22,942 Mmm. Though it take us another 2,000 years. 847 00:40:23,029 --> 00:40:25,988 But this time, we will build it better. 848 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:32,821 I'm attaching a conversation I just had with Brother Michael 849 00:40:32,908 --> 00:40:35,476 who I still think would be a worthy recruit 850 00:40:35,563 --> 00:40:36,999 after he's grown a little. 851 00:40:37,086 --> 00:40:39,741 Give him another 20 years and he'll be fine. 852 00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:46,879 Alwyn, Anla Shak, Earth sector. End report. 853 00:40:46,966 --> 00:40:50,099 We live for the one, we die for the one. 854 00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:51,187 'Record ends.' 855 00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:52,537 'Auto play feature complete.' 856 00:40:52,624 --> 00:40:53,755 Stand by. 857 00:40:57,542 --> 00:40:59,457 'System has finished processing and archiving records' 858 00:40:59,544 --> 00:41:02,155 'for period of 1 million years from initial scanning date.' 859 00:41:02,242 --> 00:41:05,114 'Instructions?' 860 00:41:05,201 --> 00:41:08,248 Our job is finished. Convey records to new Earth. 861 00:41:08,335 --> 00:41:09,771 'Confirmed.' 862 00:41:09,858 --> 00:41:11,425 Use enhanced tachyon sequence 863 00:41:11,512 --> 00:41:13,862 to ensure arrival in time for the celebrations. 864 00:41:13,949 --> 00:41:14,950 'Confirmed. Note.' 865 00:41:15,037 --> 00:41:16,386 'Atypical solar emissions' 866 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,084 'increasing in intensity.' 867 00:41:18,171 --> 00:41:21,566 'Estimate sol will hit nova in less than 5 standard hours.' 868 00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:23,481 'Recommend immediate evacuation.' 869 00:41:23,568 --> 00:41:26,005 Tell the others not to worry. 870 00:41:26,092 --> 00:41:28,703 I wouldn't miss this for anything. 871 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:29,922 Now go on. 872 00:41:36,494 --> 00:41:38,974 This is how the world ends. 873 00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:42,412 Swallowed in fire but not in darkness. 874 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,240 You will live on. 875 00:41:44,327 --> 00:41:47,548 The voice of all our ancestors, the voice of our fathers 876 00:41:47,635 --> 00:41:50,551 and our mothers to the last generation. 877 00:41:50,638 --> 00:41:53,641 We created the world we think you would've wished for us. 878 00:41:53,728 --> 00:41:56,514 And now we leave the cradle for the last time. 879 00:42:31,418 --> 00:42:33,725 You should sleep. 880 00:42:33,812 --> 00:42:35,553 We both have early meetings. 881 00:42:36,858 --> 00:42:38,381 Yeah, I know. 882 00:42:40,427 --> 00:42:42,472 I was just thinkin' about it all. 883 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,039 Everything we've done.. 884 00:42:45,693 --> 00:42:48,130 ...and what I said earlier. 885 00:42:48,217 --> 00:42:51,786 And I was wondering if theywillremember us 886 00:42:51,873 --> 00:42:54,572 a hundred years from now or a thousand. 887 00:42:57,096 --> 00:43:00,229 And I figure probably not. 888 00:43:00,316 --> 00:43:02,275 But it doesn't matter. 889 00:43:02,362 --> 00:43:04,799 We did what we did because it was right. 890 00:43:04,886 --> 00:43:07,062 Not to be remembered. 891 00:43:07,149 --> 00:43:10,413 And history will attend to itself. 892 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:11,589 It always does. 67410

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