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'Shuttle one to C and C.
The package is on its way in.'
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'Confirmed, shuttle one.'
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Hang on, hang on.
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Welcome home.
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Uh, this was
your idea, wasn't it?
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Well, we figured
you'd probably wanna come back
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with as little
fanfare as possible.
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Your usual low key approach.
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But there's a time
and a place for everything.
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And this is the time
and this is definitely the place
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for one hell of a party.
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Mr. President,
we have a lot to celebrate
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including and especially
your marriage.
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And you two
just can't avoid it.
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If I could find some way
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to pay you back for this,
I will.
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Thank you.
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So, doctor, who died?
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What are you talkin' about?
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Among my people, this is how
we celebrate state funerals.
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Our marriage ceremonies
are solemn, sober..
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...moments of reflection.
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Also regret,
disagreement, argument
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and mutual recrimination.
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Once you know that
it cannot get any worse
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you can relax
and enjoy the marriage.
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But to start
with something like this?
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No, it is a very bad sign
for the future.
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Perhaps it was
something I said.
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Perhaps it is
everything you say.
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I knew we should have
gone to Minbar first.
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Well, I suppose
we can't blame them.
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I mean, Clark's gone,
Earth and Mars are free.
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They wanna celebrate.
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I guess they see us
as a symbol of that.
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They should be applauding
themselves, not us.
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We did it together.
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But I think th-there's
something immodest about all--
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Oh, I wouldn't worry
about it.
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What matters is what
we did here together.
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In a hundred years,
it won't matter who we were.
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They probably
won't even remember.
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That's true.
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Ohh.
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'And here's our first shot
of the first couple'
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'of the Interstellar Alliance,
President John Sheridan'
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'and Delenn, live on ISN.'
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'Their triumphant return
to Babylon 5'
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'after the liberation of Earth'
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'has generated good
messages from the senate'
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'and most worlds in the former
league of non aligned worlds.'
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'ISN coverage..'
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'Continuity error
caused by high energy.'
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'Correcting for error.'
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'Resetting.
Do you wish to continue?'
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'Reloading sequence,
Sheridan and Delenn.'
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'one year through 1,000 years
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'Please stand by to receive.'
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It was the year of fire.
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The year of destruction.
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The year we took back
what was ours.
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It was the year of rebirth.
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The year of great sadness.
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The year of pain.
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And the year of joy.
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It was a new age.
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It was the end of history.
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It was the year
everything changed.
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The year is 2261.
The place..
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"Babylon 5."
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'Accessing records
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'Stand by.'
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'ISN Nightside.'
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'A no holds barred look
at the events of today'
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'that will shape
the world of tomorrow.'
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'And now your host
Derek Mitchell.'
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Good evening.
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By any definition, the events
of the last few weeks
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have been among the most
remarkable in recent memory.
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The end of a civil war
that split Earthforce
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squarely down the middle,
the death of President
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William Morgan Clark,
the birth of an independent Mars
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and the creation of a new
Interstellar Alliance.
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It can be more than
a little overwhelming.
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However, there's a word
in the old testament
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used to call for silence
between passages, "Selah."
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It means, "pause and consider."
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So tonight,
starting with a report
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from special correspondent
Jim Bitterbane
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and a word or ten
from our usual panel of experts
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we've set aside a few moments
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to reflect, discuss,
pause, and consider.
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Selah.
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Greatness is a quality
that is often sought
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by those who want it most,
but are the least worthy.
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Correspondingly, greatness
is sometimes thrust upon
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those who want it least
but are the most deserving.
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These words would seem
to best describe
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Captain John J. Sheridan
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both in the way
he came into the world
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and as the position
that he currently occupies
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as that of the president of
the new Interstellar Alliance.
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The only son of
a career diplomat
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Sheridan was an average
but enthusiastic student.
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He drifted in and out
of various hobbies
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including a brief
but obsessive interest
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in the works
of the Dalai Lama
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before entering Earthforce
shortly after the Dilgar War.
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He served with distinction
during the Minbari War
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and the food riots on Mars.
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Quite a change from those
early, unremarkable years
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and the man who came to Earth
leading a fleet
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and carrying an ultimatum.
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But now, an even greater
challenge stands before him.
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Can he hold together
this newborn alliance
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of competing,
even mutually hostile races?
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Derek?
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Thank you, Jim.
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We'll now turn to our panel
of experts for their thoughts.
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From Earthdome,
Senator Elizabeth Metarie.
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From Mars, author
and journalist, Leif Tanner.
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And from Paris, Henry Ellis,
former speech writer
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and political commentator.
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Gentlemen, senator, welcome.
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'Thank you, Derek.'
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Well, I don't know
which of you wants
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to be first
out of the gate on this--
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I'd like to jump
in here, Derek.
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'Alright.'
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What amazes me is the way
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that everyone has tried
to turn Sheridan
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into some kind of hero.
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This is the man who resigned
his commission in Earthforce
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under dubious circumstances--
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The president cleared him
and his crew, Henry
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and she called him
the hero of the hour.
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'Yes, she did.'
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And she's gonna have
to answer for that
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in the next election.
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But, but that's
besides the point.
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Now there was obviously
some sort of deal made there
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which is how he got out of there
with his hide in one piece.
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I mean, call me old fashioned
but that doesn't sound
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like the best qualification
to run a major alliance.
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Sounds to me like most of
the generals and politicians
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who've made history
in the last few hundred years.
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'Oh, come on.'
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Let's look at the facts.
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The man isn't qualified
to run an operation
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as large as this
Interstellar Alliance.
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He could barely keep
Babylon 5 operational
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without shootin'
at everything in sight--
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'Oh, that's an exaggeration.'
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He can barely get along
with his own race
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and now he's gonna stitch
together an alliance
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of radically different aliens
and make it work?
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No, this whole shebang
is doomed from the get go.
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Why not at least
let him try to prove
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if he can do it or not,
before you subject him--
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'With what's at stake?'
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'I agree with the senator.'
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Give Sheridan a break.
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To write him off
before he's even started.
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Well, that's irrational,
even for you, Henry.
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He fires on his own ships and
you're callin' me irrational?
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Come on, Leif.
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'That's-that's not fair--'
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'I beg your pardon.'
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Do you actually believe
the alliance will work?
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I don't know
if it will work.
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I'm just saying
that he deserves a chance
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to try and make it work.
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Uh, what I think is missing
and being lost
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in this whole discussion
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is that this is
an election year.
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And that Mr. Ellis
was working as a speech writer
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in the Clark administration.
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And I think that he
and others of his party
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consider Sheridan a real threat
to their hopes
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for a majority in the senate.
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So they're doing all that they
can to discredit him in advance.
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'That is completely unfair.'
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It is not unfair.
It's true, Henry.
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I-I hate to interrupt you
at this point
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but we're coming up
on a commercial break.
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So why don't each of you
give me your calls
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for the next couple of years,
uh, on the following.
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Can Sheridan and his people
make a go of this new alliance?
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- 'Yes.'
- 'Absolutely.'
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Do you think they'll make
any difference whatever?
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And what do you consider
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to be the number one problem
waiting for them?
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Ah, ah, ah.
Mr. Tanner.
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From where I sit, they've
already made a difference.
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The senate has been
debating what to do
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about Mars for years
and did nothing.
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It took Sheridan
to push them into recognizing
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our sovereign rights
of independence.
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'At gunpoint.'
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Senator?
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Obviously there's
a degree of uncertainty
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in any new political situation.
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This next year will prove
critical for Sheridan
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and the rest of his people.
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Look at what
they're up against.
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He has to ride herd
on a dozen or so alien races
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that've signed
on to this alliance
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and probably
don't fully understand
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what's being required of them.
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There's still sporadic fighting
between many of those members.
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On top of that, he has supply
problems, telepath problems
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raiding parties, not to mention
distrust among elements
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of his own government
here at home.
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This man has his work
cut out for him.
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But I know
that he can handle it.
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Mr. Ellis, last words.
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Whatever Sheridan and Delenn say
about this economic alliance
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he's going to have to apply
military force to make it work.
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Now, let me finish.
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I didn't interrupt you people
when you were talking.
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Now when this happens,
it's all gonna fall apart.
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He's power hungry
and he's unprepared.
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And that is a dangerous
combination.
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'Dangerous combination!
That's what leaders--'
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Thank you.
Thank you very much.
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We'll be back in just a moment
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to consider
the political implications
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of this new
Interstellar Alliance
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and the recent calls
for the formation
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of independent
political parties on Mars.
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'Date 100 years
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'Stand by.'
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'Accessing records
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'With another in our series
of educational stellar casts '
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'on the 100th anniversary
of the Interstellar Alliance.'
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'Taking part in today's
discussion from Earthdome'
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'historian Dr. Jim Latimere
from the University of York.'
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'Political scientist Dr. Barbara
Tashaki, University of Japan'
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'at Tokyo and psychologist,
Dr. William Exeter from NYU.'
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Good morning.
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We seem to have roughly half
a million students and faculty
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on line today,
waiting with questions
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which is a little more
than we expected.
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So if the system runs
a little slow, bear with us.
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Our first question, from Ray
Winston, University of Kiev.
254
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"What role do you feel
the Babylon station played
255
00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:31,751
in the creation of
the 100 year peace?"
256
00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:33,143
Well, the station,
none at all.
257
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It's a place, was a place
258
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that served as a nexus
for others.
259
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- I agree.
- 'A nexus how?'
260
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Well, the first thing
you have to do
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is separate fantasy
from reality.
262
00:12:41,456 --> 00:12:43,197
The publicity machine
for the Alliance
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would have you believe that
somehow all this came about
264
00:12:45,416 --> 00:12:47,331
because of what
a few people did.
265
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'But large political movements'
266
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are rarely the work
of any one person.
267
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The individual at the center
gives permission
268
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for others to act,
can inspire others
269
00:12:55,426 --> 00:12:57,211
but the individual
really cannot effect change
270
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as an act of will.
271
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They did notdo,
they allowed others to do.
272
00:13:01,345 --> 00:13:03,086
By "they" you mean
Sheridan and Delenn?
273
00:13:03,173 --> 00:13:05,262
We all have a profound
psychological need to
274
00:13:05,349 --> 00:13:08,048
believe in heroes, the shining
knight on the white horse.
275
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If they don't exist,
we create them.
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Sheridan and Delenn
are two classic examples.
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If you look at the social
dynamic around them
278
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they actually
didn't do anything.
279
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They were the open vessels
280
00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,843
in which people poured
their hopes and their dreams.
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That sets up
sort of a gestalt
282
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where events take on
a life of their own.
283
00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:28,242
So you think the record of their
accomplishments is overrated?
284
00:13:28,329 --> 00:13:29,417
'Absolutely.'
285
00:13:29,504 --> 00:13:30,853
Good PR, as Tashaki said.
286
00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:32,986
In a lot of ways, they blew it.
287
00:13:33,073 --> 00:13:35,553
It was only the force of history
that saved the situation
288
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,773
from collapsing of its own
weight after so many people
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died in its first year
of operation.
290
00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:41,124
And the incident
concerning their son--
291
00:13:41,211 --> 00:13:42,169
I don't want to get
off the track
292
00:13:42,256 --> 00:13:43,561
and into associated biography.
293
00:13:43,648 --> 00:13:45,389
So let's move on
to the next question.
294
00:13:47,478 --> 00:13:49,916
"If your assumption is correct,
where did Sheridan and Delenn
295
00:13:50,003 --> 00:13:51,178
and those involved go wrong?"
296
00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:52,832
Where do you start?
297
00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:55,312
I started to say, so many
people died in the year
298
00:13:55,399 --> 00:13:57,967
after Sheridan and Delenn
returned to Babylon 5.
299
00:13:58,054 --> 00:13:59,621
Well, you can't lay the blame
for all that at their feet.
300
00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:01,101
'Of course you can.'
301
00:14:01,188 --> 00:14:02,580
Well, as one example,
they had no business
302
00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:04,887
creating a colony
of telepaths on Babylon 5.
303
00:14:04,974 --> 00:14:06,149
He as much as said later
304
00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:08,238
it was the worst mistake
of his career.
305
00:14:08,325 --> 00:14:10,110
He thought they could
control the telepaths
306
00:14:10,197 --> 00:14:12,155
when any fool knows
that's impossible.
307
00:14:12,242 --> 00:14:13,722
Sooner or later,
they were bound to turn on
308
00:14:13,809 --> 00:14:15,332
Sheridan and everybody else.
309
00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:16,551
And that's exactly
what happened.
310
00:14:16,638 --> 00:14:18,205
I have to agree.
311
00:14:18,292 --> 00:14:20,120
That one event may have done
much to precipitate
312
00:14:20,207 --> 00:14:21,991
the telepath war and--
313
00:14:22,078 --> 00:14:23,645
'You can't pick one incident
and say that was the cause--'
314
00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:25,212
Not the sole cause, no.
315
00:14:25,299 --> 00:14:27,127
But it was
a contributing factor.
316
00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:29,477
I'd like to turn
our attention now
317
00:14:29,564 --> 00:14:30,913
to this historical record.
318
00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,654
It's from later in 2262
319
00:14:32,741 --> 00:14:35,135
just after the creation
of the Interstellar Alliance.
320
00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:38,399
I'd like to get
your comments on it.
321
00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:40,096
'You gotta listen to me.'
322
00:14:40,183 --> 00:14:42,794
This isn't gonna work.
323
00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:44,492
If you give yourselves up,
we could go back, we could talk
324
00:14:44,579 --> 00:14:45,797
to the others.
325
00:14:50,585 --> 00:14:52,979
Alright, you say
you're doin' this for a cause.
326
00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:54,371
What kind of sympathy
are you gonna get
327
00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:56,634
by killing innocent people
in cold blood?
328
00:14:58,375 --> 00:15:01,901
You wanna send out a message,
this ain't it.
329
00:15:01,988 --> 00:15:03,206
Look, I can work with you.
330
00:15:03,293 --> 00:15:04,425
I can get you out of this.
331
00:15:04,512 --> 00:15:06,035
But you've gotta work
with me.
332
00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:09,082
What do you say?
333
00:15:13,303 --> 00:15:15,436
Oh, yeah.
334
00:15:15,523 --> 00:15:17,786
That's what I thought
you were gonna say.
335
00:15:17,873 --> 00:15:20,223
This is President Sheridan.
336
00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:22,269
I have consulted
with Captain Lochley
337
00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:26,316
and we have reached a decision
regarding the current situation.
338
00:15:26,403 --> 00:15:29,319
It is not the policy of
the Interstellar Alliance
339
00:15:29,406 --> 00:15:32,148
or this station
to bargain with terrorists
340
00:15:32,235 --> 00:15:34,716
for the lives of hostages.
341
00:15:34,803 --> 00:15:36,239
If we open that door
even once
342
00:15:36,326 --> 00:15:39,068
we will never be able
to close it again.
343
00:15:39,155 --> 00:15:42,985
Now you have two choices,
surrender
344
00:15:43,072 --> 00:15:46,771
or we will use lethal force
to bring you down.
345
00:15:46,858 --> 00:15:48,512
You have ten minutes.
346
00:15:51,515 --> 00:15:53,256
Swell.
347
00:15:55,128 --> 00:15:57,260
Oh, whoa.
Wait, look, we can--
348
00:15:58,435 --> 00:16:00,481
Comments?
349
00:16:00,568 --> 00:16:02,352
Well, I don't know what
more needs to be said.
350
00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:04,137
These pictures speak
for themselves.
351
00:16:04,224 --> 00:16:06,182
Sheridan was clearly
pathological.
352
00:16:06,269 --> 00:16:07,792
'Well, to be fair, most
governments take that position.'
353
00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:09,272
No, I'm not debating that.
354
00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:10,665
But you can see it
in his attitude.
355
00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:12,580
The way he addresses
the terrorists.
356
00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:15,322
That coldness is emblematic
of his personality.
357
00:16:15,409 --> 00:16:17,063
He was power hungry,
it's as simple as that.
358
00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:19,500
And he never let
anything get in his way.
359
00:16:19,587 --> 00:16:21,197
Dr. Tashaki?
360
00:16:21,284 --> 00:16:23,069
A truly pathological
individual
361
00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:25,288
could never have constructed
a mythos around himself
362
00:16:25,375 --> 00:16:26,855
the way Sheridan did.
363
00:16:26,942 --> 00:16:28,683
It's a very sophisticated
PR campaign.
364
00:16:28,770 --> 00:16:30,467
Brilliantly done.
365
00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:32,382
And then there's that bit about
the way his death was handled.
366
00:16:32,469 --> 00:16:33,731
Exactly.
367
00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:35,777
Everyone knows
Sheridan died on Minbar.
368
00:16:35,864 --> 00:16:38,127
The cover story they put out
was clearly designed
369
00:16:38,214 --> 00:16:40,042
to perpetuate the myth
of his character.
370
00:16:40,129 --> 00:16:41,609
And I guess it worked
371
00:16:41,696 --> 00:16:44,742
'cause a lot of people still
believe it 80 years later.
372
00:16:44,829 --> 00:16:48,572
So, where do the two of you
fall on the Delenn question?
373
00:16:48,659 --> 00:16:50,661
Well, everyone knows
Minbari live a long time.
374
00:16:50,748 --> 00:16:51,880
But not that long.
375
00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:54,187
I think the record
is 120 years.
376
00:16:54,274 --> 00:16:55,797
A 140? Forget it.
377
00:16:55,884 --> 00:16:58,104
This is just what Dr. Tashaki
was talking about earlier.
378
00:16:58,191 --> 00:17:00,584
This constant perpetuation
of fantasy.
379
00:17:00,671 --> 00:17:03,109
The idea that Delenn
is still around after this long
380
00:17:03,196 --> 00:17:04,588
and living in seclusion
381
00:17:04,675 --> 00:17:06,460
so, of course,
no one can see her.
382
00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:08,331
It's very convenient.
383
00:17:08,418 --> 00:17:10,681
The Alliance is continuing the
illusion that Delenn is alive
384
00:17:10,768 --> 00:17:12,074
for their own purposes.
385
00:17:12,161 --> 00:17:14,033
Frankly, I don't think
she would have approved.
386
00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:15,686
Apparently they feel
they have to maintain
387
00:17:15,773 --> 00:17:18,037
this fiction in order to keep
their people in line.
388
00:17:18,124 --> 00:17:20,691
If the Alliance and the Rangers
are as strong as they say
389
00:17:20,778 --> 00:17:24,043
they don't need the security
blanket of lies and myth.
390
00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:27,959
Looking back, has the Alliance
been a force for good?
391
00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:30,223
Well, for the most part, yes.
392
00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:32,921
Although good things can grow
in questionable ground.
393
00:17:33,008 --> 00:17:34,488
I think it's clear
that the motives of those
394
00:17:34,575 --> 00:17:36,490
at the birth of the Alliance
were not as pure
395
00:17:36,577 --> 00:17:39,971
as their biographers
and allies would suggest.
396
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:41,930
The force of history is
what moves us forward.
397
00:17:42,017 --> 00:17:44,150
Our common shared destiny.
398
00:17:44,237 --> 00:17:46,543
The individual does not
move society forward.
399
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:50,025
To give them undue credit
is immodest and impertinent.
400
00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:51,940
Sheridan was a megalomaniac
401
00:17:52,027 --> 00:17:54,116
and to allow history
to feed that megalomania
402
00:17:54,203 --> 00:17:57,206
even posthumously,
simply compounds the error.
403
00:17:57,293 --> 00:17:58,990
We have an obligation
as academics
404
00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,515
to uphold certain standards--
405
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:06,215
I-I've just heard we've had a-a
security breach in the building.
406
00:18:06,302 --> 00:18:07,434
We're going to..
407
00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:23,058
'Delenn?'
408
00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:26,757
John Sheridan..
409
00:18:28,977 --> 00:18:31,675
...was a good..
410
00:18:31,762 --> 00:18:34,025
...and kind..
411
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:36,027
...and decent man.
412
00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:43,731
Delenn, wait.
Uh..
413
00:18:43,818 --> 00:18:47,343
You came all this way
just to say that?
414
00:18:49,084 --> 00:18:52,566
You came...just as far..
415
00:18:52,653 --> 00:18:54,698
...to say less.
416
00:18:54,785 --> 00:18:57,092
'But this is extraordinary.'
417
00:18:57,179 --> 00:18:59,225
There's so much more
we'd like to ask you.
418
00:18:59,312 --> 00:19:01,662
So much more
we'd like to know.
419
00:19:01,749 --> 00:19:05,883
You do not wish
to know...anything.
420
00:19:08,495 --> 00:19:13,108
You wish...only to speak.
421
00:19:16,242 --> 00:19:20,681
That which you know..
422
00:19:20,768 --> 00:19:26,165
...you ignore because
it is inconvenient.
423
00:19:28,993 --> 00:19:34,129
That which you
do not know...you invent!
424
00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:40,701
But none of that matters.
425
00:19:43,138 --> 00:19:48,491
Except that he was...a good man.
426
00:19:50,972 --> 00:19:54,584
A kind man..
427
00:19:54,671 --> 00:19:57,326
...who cared about the world..
428
00:19:59,633 --> 00:20:04,159
...even when the world
cared nothing for him.
429
00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:16,867
Well, of course we would
expect you to say that.
430
00:20:16,954 --> 00:20:17,912
We..
431
00:20:29,097 --> 00:20:30,229
Goodbye.
432
00:20:53,164 --> 00:20:54,601
'Record ends.'
433
00:20:54,688 --> 00:20:56,646
'Auto play feature engaged.'
434
00:20:56,733 --> 00:20:58,257
'Loading next sequence.'
435
00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:01,477
'Date 500 years
from first time period.'
436
00:21:01,564 --> 00:21:02,565
'Stand by.'
437
00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:05,699
'Accessing records
for date 500 years'
438
00:21:05,786 --> 00:21:07,353
'from initial scanning date.'
439
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,441
'Stand by.'
440
00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,886
Continue holographic recording
from last index point.
441
00:21:18,973 --> 00:21:21,802
Test sequence number five.
442
00:21:21,889 --> 00:21:24,500
Two January 2762.
443
00:21:24,587 --> 00:21:26,633
All monitors set
to record mode.
444
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,375
Initiating environmental
hologram, location 2C.
445
00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:31,464
Sequence...start.
446
00:21:33,901 --> 00:21:35,772
Virtual environment functioning.
447
00:21:35,859 --> 00:21:40,037
Identical to Babylon 5
system records from 2262.
448
00:21:40,124 --> 00:21:43,214
Data transfer of records
is complete, successful
449
00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,869
in spite of extreme age
of original files
450
00:21:45,956 --> 00:21:51,048
and destruction of original
Babylon 5 station 480 years ago.
451
00:21:52,659 --> 00:21:56,837
To recap for
politdivision central..
452
00:21:56,924 --> 00:21:58,360
...the purpose of
this simulation
453
00:21:58,447 --> 00:22:00,580
is to provide
reverse correct infospeak
454
00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:04,758
as support for current
changes in Earth policy.
455
00:22:04,845 --> 00:22:07,369
It is the new policy that
the Interstellar Alliance
456
00:22:07,456 --> 00:22:11,852
is restrictive and against
the best interests of Earth.
457
00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:15,421
Intent is to deconstruct
historical figures revered
458
00:22:15,508 --> 00:22:18,249
by prole sector,
thereby legitimizing
459
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:20,339
current government policies.
460
00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:26,214
Initiating phase 2
of re-creation.
461
00:22:28,303 --> 00:22:30,131
To determine if the
psychohistorical research
462
00:22:30,218 --> 00:22:31,654
has been sufficiently thorough
463
00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:34,222
phase 2 will begin with
the control holograms
464
00:22:34,309 --> 00:22:36,224
workin' with the actual
psychological makeups
465
00:22:36,311 --> 00:22:37,791
of the subjects in question.
466
00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:42,317
The holograms will thus
perform in a fashion
467
00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:44,754
consistent with real fact.
468
00:22:44,841 --> 00:22:47,496
Program starts...now.
469
00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:51,065
Do you know where you are?
470
00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:52,588
Babylon 5.
471
00:22:52,675 --> 00:22:55,330
The, the conference room,
level blue 3.
472
00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,463
And what year is it?
473
00:22:57,550 --> 00:22:59,247
Twenty two sixty two.
474
00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:01,728
'Very good.'
475
00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:03,251
The next step
is to determine
476
00:23:03,338 --> 00:23:05,209
how well the system
can be modified.
477
00:23:05,296 --> 00:23:06,602
Computer.
478
00:23:06,689 --> 00:23:08,909
Update system files
for holographic figures
479
00:23:08,996 --> 00:23:13,130
filling in period
from 2262 through 2762.
480
00:23:13,217 --> 00:23:15,045
'Stand by.'
481
00:23:15,132 --> 00:23:17,874
The system is now updating
the holographic representations
482
00:23:17,961 --> 00:23:19,615
with our current
political situation
483
00:23:19,702 --> 00:23:22,401
and the developments
leading up to them.
484
00:23:22,488 --> 00:23:24,707
'This will demonstrate
system flexibility'
485
00:23:24,794 --> 00:23:26,927
and capacity
to spontaneously emote
486
00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:29,408
to changes in programming.
487
00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:30,844
Download complete.
488
00:23:32,062 --> 00:23:33,455
Well..
489
00:23:34,848 --> 00:23:37,198
Five hundred years?
490
00:23:37,285 --> 00:23:39,156
- Are we..
- Yes.
491
00:23:39,243 --> 00:23:42,943
You, the real you
are deceased.
492
00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:45,032
We have reconstructed
your thought patterns
493
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,686
and your forms for purposes
494
00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:48,470
of a series of vids
designed to help--
495
00:23:48,557 --> 00:23:51,081
Designed as propaganda
to justify your break
496
00:23:51,168 --> 00:23:52,518
from the Interstellar Alliance.
497
00:23:55,912 --> 00:23:57,479
Not propaganda.
498
00:23:57,566 --> 00:24:00,787
Good facts...as opposed
to real facts.
499
00:24:00,874 --> 00:24:04,486
Facts the government
has endorsed.
500
00:24:04,573 --> 00:24:06,227
I don't get it.
Why are you doing this?
501
00:24:06,314 --> 00:24:08,969
Why the break
with the Alliance?
502
00:24:09,056 --> 00:24:12,320
Five hundred years
of working with the Alliance
503
00:24:12,407 --> 00:24:14,453
has weakened
the position of humans
504
00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,193
in the greater
scheme of things.
505
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,979
We have lost our uniqueness.
506
00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:22,069
We have been polluted
by too many outside ideas.
507
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:25,420
That's a great story.
508
00:24:25,507 --> 00:24:28,162
I'm sure that's the one
you're putting out.
509
00:24:28,249 --> 00:24:30,599
What's the real one?
510
00:24:30,686 --> 00:24:32,427
The real fact,
not the good fact.
511
00:24:32,514 --> 00:24:35,343
Earth needs room to expand.
512
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:37,606
The Rangers and the Alliance
prove a hindrance
513
00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:39,260
to our plans to expand.
514
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:42,176
Can't you see?
515
00:24:45,309 --> 00:24:46,528
They've recreated us
516
00:24:46,615 --> 00:24:48,269
so that they can provide
false records
517
00:24:48,356 --> 00:24:51,664
and, uh, portray us to be
what? Uh, the bad guys?
518
00:24:51,751 --> 00:24:54,362
Only out for interests
of our own?
519
00:24:54,449 --> 00:24:56,756
They want to undermine
the Alliance
520
00:24:56,843 --> 00:24:58,801
by attacking the people
who created it.
521
00:24:58,888 --> 00:25:00,020
Looks like.
522
00:25:00,107 --> 00:25:01,282
Just a second.
523
00:25:04,111 --> 00:25:06,896
I'm remembering things
I never saw.
524
00:25:06,983 --> 00:25:08,681
Those are the records
they downloaded to us.
525
00:25:08,768 --> 00:25:11,248
Th-there's another force
out there.
526
00:25:11,335 --> 00:25:13,555
Earthgov is split.
527
00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:17,559
The two sides are-are fighting
each other over..
528
00:25:17,646 --> 00:25:20,301
...land and resources,
power.
529
00:25:22,695 --> 00:25:24,305
We're on the cusp
of another civil war.
530
00:25:26,089 --> 00:25:28,222
You know, he's right.
531
00:25:28,309 --> 00:25:29,745
I'm gettin' it, too.
532
00:25:33,706 --> 00:25:35,882
That's the reason for the
planned invasion, isn't it?
533
00:25:38,362 --> 00:25:40,190
They wanna take over
several colony worlds
534
00:25:40,277 --> 00:25:41,975
that've gone over
to the opposition
535
00:25:42,062 --> 00:25:44,194
which is still loyal
to the Alliance.
536
00:25:44,281 --> 00:25:47,633
Your legacy has proven
a hindrance to that intention.
537
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,592
Therefore you must
be...deconstructed.
538
00:25:51,811 --> 00:25:53,552
Initiating phase three.
539
00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,166
Good fact scenario
ready for testing.
540
00:25:59,253 --> 00:26:00,646
Look, if you think
this is going to work--
541
00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:02,952
Engaging reprogram.
542
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:04,258
You may proceed.
543
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:11,395
Welcome to Babylon 5.
544
00:26:13,136 --> 00:26:15,748
I understand that you
surrendered to our forces
545
00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:18,577
in the hopes
of finding mercy.
546
00:26:20,796 --> 00:26:25,235
The Interstellar Alliance is not
here to be merciful to the weak.
547
00:26:27,716 --> 00:26:32,373
In all the universe there are
only 2 kinds, the conquerors..
548
00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:33,592
...and the conquered.
549
00:26:34,854 --> 00:26:36,725
Through your blood
550
00:26:36,812 --> 00:26:38,248
'and the blood
of your children'
551
00:26:38,335 --> 00:26:40,773
we will blaze a path
across the galaxy!
552
00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:42,688
What we cannot take
by force
553
00:26:42,775 --> 00:26:45,647
we will win...by subversion.
554
00:26:47,867 --> 00:26:50,521
And in the end,
we will bury you.
555
00:26:53,437 --> 00:26:54,961
Your lives are not the first
556
00:26:55,048 --> 00:26:56,353
and they will not be
the last.
557
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,660
If a billion must die
558
00:26:58,747 --> 00:27:02,272
to ensure the continuance
of our empire, then so be it!
559
00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:16,678
You are only...a down payment.
560
00:27:19,899 --> 00:27:21,509
Stand ready!
561
00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:27,341
Aim!
562
00:27:27,428 --> 00:27:29,125
Fire!
563
00:27:29,212 --> 00:27:30,692
There must be something
we can do.
564
00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:33,869
How? We're dead.
We're not even here.
565
00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:35,697
Just our memories,
our thought patterns.
566
00:27:35,784 --> 00:27:38,352
But tha-that must be
worth something.
567
00:27:38,439 --> 00:27:41,355
What we are is not
a matter of flesh.
568
00:27:41,442 --> 00:27:43,400
It's a matter of will.
569
00:27:43,487 --> 00:27:44,837
We know their
backgrounds, right?
570
00:27:44,924 --> 00:27:47,187
We know what they're doing.
Why don't we just..
571
00:27:47,274 --> 00:27:48,754
'Phase Two.'
572
00:27:48,841 --> 00:27:50,756
'Instituting
Franklin reprogram.'
573
00:27:50,843 --> 00:27:53,280
'Placing Delenn module
in standby mode.'
574
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,283
Proceeding with
next simulation.
575
00:27:57,937 --> 00:28:01,418
Doctor's personal log.
May Third, 2262.
576
00:28:01,505 --> 00:28:03,551
We have secured
several test subjects
577
00:28:03,638 --> 00:28:05,901
for the next series
of experiments.
578
00:28:05,988 --> 00:28:08,425
We will now continue with
the use of alien organs
579
00:28:08,512 --> 00:28:10,166
in human bodies
in an attempt to create
580
00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:11,864
a genetic crossbreed
581
00:28:11,951 --> 00:28:14,475
that will be compliant
to the needs of the Alliance.
582
00:28:14,562 --> 00:28:15,824
Later today,
we will begin again
583
00:28:15,911 --> 00:28:17,739
with our experiments
on children.
584
00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:19,175
Now the problem
with the vivisection
585
00:28:19,262 --> 00:28:21,221
is that the younger children
can only survive
586
00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:23,919
the initial removal of organs
for a short period of time.
587
00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:27,140
Now we hope that,
by increased use of drugs
588
00:28:27,227 --> 00:28:29,011
we may find a way
to prolong their lives
589
00:28:29,098 --> 00:28:30,970
while we work.
590
00:28:34,495 --> 00:28:36,453
'Very good. Very good.'
591
00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:39,500
Program hold while I make notes
on this for infospeak division.
592
00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,287
So, Daniel, right?
593
00:28:44,374 --> 00:28:46,202
Dan. Danny.
Can I call you Danny?
594
00:28:46,289 --> 00:28:47,334
Oh, right.
Sorry, I forgot.
595
00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:48,901
I'm just a hologram
596
00:28:48,988 --> 00:28:50,554
and you're busy getting
ready to reprogram me.
597
00:28:50,641 --> 00:28:52,078
Didn't mean to interrupt.
598
00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:53,514
No point in having
a conversation
599
00:28:53,601 --> 00:28:54,733
with someone that
doesn't really exist.
600
00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,169
You know, I was just thinkin'.
601
00:28:56,256 --> 00:28:57,387
When you've got all
your pieces in place
602
00:28:57,474 --> 00:28:58,954
you're probably gonna launch
603
00:28:59,041 --> 00:29:00,303
a preemptive strike
against the enemy, right?
604
00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:03,219
I mean, it's what
I would do.
605
00:29:03,306 --> 00:29:05,482
Computer, initiate
shutdown of Garibaldi--
606
00:29:05,569 --> 00:29:06,527
Oh, whoa, whoa,
now, wait, wait, wait.
607
00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:07,789
Just one second.
608
00:29:07,876 --> 00:29:09,356
Before you do that
609
00:29:09,443 --> 00:29:11,793
I might have some useful
information for you.
610
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,361
See, the thing is,
me and Sheridan were close.
611
00:29:14,448 --> 00:29:15,754
But I was the one who did
612
00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:17,668
most of the strategic
planning during the war.
613
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,453
Now a resource like that..
614
00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:21,629
...you might not wanna wipe
it out just yet.
615
00:29:21,716 --> 00:29:23,370
I could help you.
616
00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:25,198
Give you some tips
to pass along to the big boys
617
00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:27,983
and maybe...get you
a promotion.
618
00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:34,207
Go on.
619
00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:35,861
Ah, well, before I can help
620
00:29:35,948 --> 00:29:37,819
I have to ask just
a few small questions.
621
00:29:37,906 --> 00:29:40,517
Now you're a real fact
kind of guy.
622
00:29:40,604 --> 00:29:42,693
You know what they're up to
out there, don't you?
623
00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:47,176
Come on, you can tell me.
Am I right?
624
00:29:47,263 --> 00:29:48,917
Ah, your boys are plannin'
a first strike
625
00:29:49,004 --> 00:29:50,876
against the enemy,
aren't they?
626
00:29:50,963 --> 00:29:52,268
That's why you're
rushing ahead like this
627
00:29:52,355 --> 00:29:53,443
because you're under the gun.
628
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,448
We will strike at
the outer world colonies
629
00:29:58,535 --> 00:30:01,495
and the enemy nations here
on Earth at the same time.
630
00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:03,366
Our attack fleet will be
leaving within the hour.
631
00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:04,628
Good.
632
00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:06,630
Good, that's very smart.
633
00:30:06,717 --> 00:30:08,284
Now, will you be targeting
military bases
634
00:30:08,371 --> 00:30:10,634
or civilian population
centers?
635
00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:13,246
Civilian population
centers.
636
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:17,598
We...my superiors feel
it will demoralize the enemy.
637
00:30:17,685 --> 00:30:19,208
force a surrender.
638
00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:20,906
Hmm. Estimated dead?
639
00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:24,605
Mm. 15 to 20 million
enemy casualties.
640
00:30:24,692 --> 00:30:26,476
Can't make an omelet without
breaking a few eggs, hmm?
641
00:30:26,563 --> 00:30:29,218
Absolutely.
642
00:30:29,305 --> 00:30:31,046
Now..
643
00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:33,701
...what...suggestions
do you have?
644
00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:39,141
Well, I suggest that you put
your head between your legs
645
00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:41,665
and you kiss your ass
goodbye.
646
00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:44,668
Thank you.
647
00:30:46,105 --> 00:30:48,063
Computer!
648
00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:49,848
The funny thing about being
a holographic record
649
00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:51,458
is that you don't
really exist
650
00:30:51,545 --> 00:30:56,028
except in patterns of light,
shadow, information.
651
00:30:56,115 --> 00:30:58,291
And I happen to have a knack
for breaking system codes.
652
00:30:58,378 --> 00:31:00,641
So while you were downloading
the new world order into me
653
00:31:00,728 --> 00:31:02,730
I was watching
the system work.
654
00:31:02,817 --> 00:31:05,951
I know where it comes in
and I know where it goes out.
655
00:31:06,038 --> 00:31:08,475
And I just sent out
our entire conversation.
656
00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:10,172
Broadcast the whole damn thing.
657
00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:12,696
So, as of right now,
the enemy knows
658
00:31:12,783 --> 00:31:14,394
what you have in mind,
Danny.
659
00:31:14,481 --> 00:31:15,612
Now, from your records,
they're actually
660
00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:17,223
a lot more humanitarian
than you are.
661
00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:18,964
So they'll probably
just target your military bases
662
00:31:19,051 --> 00:31:20,574
and research facilities.
663
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:23,533
Hell, their missiles are
probably halfway here by now.
664
00:31:24,795 --> 00:31:26,232
You're lying.
665
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,801
Hmm.
666
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,717
Holograms don't lie,
Danny boy.
667
00:31:33,804 --> 00:31:36,372
Computer, end simulation.
668
00:31:36,459 --> 00:31:37,939
End simulation!
669
00:31:38,026 --> 00:31:39,767
Whoops, guess
the system's busy.
670
00:31:39,854 --> 00:31:41,160
This little lab of yours
671
00:31:41,247 --> 00:31:42,291
This isn't, by any chance
672
00:31:42,378 --> 00:31:45,642
located on a military base,
is it?
673
00:31:45,729 --> 00:31:47,296
No!
674
00:31:56,958 --> 00:31:58,612
Rest easy, friends.
675
00:32:01,049 --> 00:32:03,051
Rest easy.
676
00:32:05,271 --> 00:32:06,272
'Record ends.'
677
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,143
'Auto play feature engaged.'
678
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:09,579
'Loading next sequence.'
679
00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:12,191
'Date 1,000 years
from first time period.'
680
00:32:12,278 --> 00:32:13,409
'Stand by.'
681
00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:17,109
'Accessing record
for date 1000 years'
682
00:32:17,196 --> 00:32:18,719
'from initial scanning date.'
683
00:32:18,806 --> 00:32:19,938
'Stand by.'
684
00:32:20,025 --> 00:32:22,679
Ooh. Huh!
685
00:32:22,766 --> 00:32:25,595
Surprised it all still
works after this long.
686
00:32:25,682 --> 00:32:28,120
Well, better get
to my report.
687
00:32:28,207 --> 00:32:30,687
Start auto track systems.
688
00:32:31,819 --> 00:32:33,386
Oh! Oh.
Oh. Oh.
689
00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:37,433
Yes! I..
690
00:32:38,608 --> 00:32:41,220
Yes, yes, just a moment.
691
00:32:44,092 --> 00:32:46,181
Well, Brother Michael,
it's, it's rather late.
692
00:32:46,268 --> 00:32:47,748
Y-Yes, I-I know, I know.
693
00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:50,185
But, uh, I, I really had to talk
to you, Brother Alwyn.
694
00:32:50,272 --> 00:32:52,448
Um, um,
so it would seem.
695
00:32:52,535 --> 00:32:54,581
'I am having a, uh..'
696
00:32:54,668 --> 00:32:55,669
'...a crisis of faith.'
697
00:32:55,756 --> 00:32:56,975
That again?
698
00:32:57,062 --> 00:32:58,933
- 'What?'
- N-nothing. Nothing.
699
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:00,848
And, uh, what is afflicting
your conscience
700
00:33:00,935 --> 00:33:02,284
tonight, Brother Michael?
701
00:33:02,371 --> 00:33:03,416
Well, I don't know
what my role is
702
00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:05,070
or what I'm doing here.
703
00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:06,332
You're doing God's work.
704
00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:07,681
Yes, but to what end?
705
00:33:07,768 --> 00:33:09,422
Well, the ways of the Lord
are mysterious
706
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:12,251
and do not bend to your
or to my desire
707
00:33:12,338 --> 00:33:15,210
for answers
on a certain schedule.
708
00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:18,039
"Where was thou when I
called forth Leviathan?"
709
00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,085
Yes, I've read Job,
Brother Alwyn.
710
00:33:20,172 --> 00:33:22,043
And it is really not helping.
711
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:24,698
Alright, Brother Michael.
712
00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:30,182
What has precipitated
this particular crisis of faith?
713
00:33:30,269 --> 00:33:31,966
Well, there is a rumor
going round
714
00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:34,664
that our request
for recognition
715
00:33:34,751 --> 00:33:37,015
has been turned down
yet again by Rome.
716
00:33:37,102 --> 00:33:39,408
Yes, I see. Hmm..
717
00:33:39,495 --> 00:33:43,760
A better rationale for the vow
of silence I've never heard.
718
00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:46,241
Is it true?
719
00:33:46,328 --> 00:33:50,506
The ways of Rome
are like unto God.
720
00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:52,421
They are mysterious
721
00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:55,729
and sometimes
they transcend understanding.
722
00:33:55,816 --> 00:33:57,600
They confess to an inability
723
00:33:57,687 --> 00:33:59,602
to see the wisdom
of our mission.
724
00:33:59,689 --> 00:34:02,518
'To keep alive
the knowledge of the past.'
725
00:34:02,605 --> 00:34:04,477
'The knowledge that would
have been lost forever'
726
00:34:04,564 --> 00:34:06,435
'after the Great Burn
500 years ago.'
727
00:34:07,828 --> 00:34:10,004
Science and technology?
728
00:34:10,091 --> 00:34:14,922
Well, it's not really
their calling...but it is ours.
729
00:34:15,009 --> 00:34:16,576
But, I mean, well, how?
730
00:34:16,663 --> 00:34:18,926
I mean, h-how do we know
it's our calling?
731
00:34:19,013 --> 00:34:20,710
How exactly can we be sure?
732
00:34:20,797 --> 00:34:22,669
Uh, Brother Michael!
733
00:34:22,756 --> 00:34:23,974
I-I'm not actually
saying anything
734
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:25,237
that Rome hasn't already asked.
735
00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:27,717
And you know it.
736
00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:29,893
Most of the records
were destroyed in the Great Burn
737
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:32,287
so we only have word
of mouth to go on.
738
00:34:32,374 --> 00:34:37,466
In the holy books
written after the Great Burn!
739
00:34:37,553 --> 00:34:41,209
"And so it came to pass that in
the 500th year of the Alliance
740
00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:45,213
"the children of Earth
did war one upon another.
741
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,476
"With missiles
and terrible weapons
742
00:34:47,563 --> 00:34:51,437
"and they burned the Earth
and the air and the cities
743
00:34:51,524 --> 00:34:53,091
and the sea!"
744
00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:57,399
You need only look outside
to, to have that part verified.
745
00:34:57,486 --> 00:34:59,445
Why is the rest suspect?
746
00:34:59,532 --> 00:35:01,186
It's all too, too clean.
747
00:35:01,273 --> 00:35:04,667
It's all too
well thought out to be real.
748
00:35:04,754 --> 00:35:07,017
Here. Here, here.
749
00:35:08,671 --> 00:35:12,545
The blessed Lorien,
the last of the firstborn.
750
00:35:12,632 --> 00:35:14,895
Exactly, the last
shall come first
751
00:35:14,982 --> 00:35:17,245
the first shall come last.
752
00:35:17,332 --> 00:35:19,943
A fable, specifically
created to match scripture.
753
00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:21,423
That's what the others say.
754
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:23,469
And th-there's not
one shred of evidence
755
00:35:23,556 --> 00:35:24,861
that he even existed.
756
00:35:24,948 --> 00:35:28,213
Oh, thereisproof
out there. In space.
757
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,563
But space is closed
to us now.
758
00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:34,828
Just look at us,
Brother Alwyn.
759
00:35:36,221 --> 00:35:38,962
And look at what Earth
has become.
760
00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:41,835
Our cities are little
more than villages.
761
00:35:41,922 --> 00:35:43,010
All those great secrets
762
00:35:43,097 --> 00:35:44,925
of our ancestors
are almost gone.
763
00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:47,406
Almost. That's why
we're here.
764
00:35:47,493 --> 00:35:50,191
To find the ancient wisdoms
and preserve them.
765
00:35:50,278 --> 00:35:53,629
Why, we've already found
and restored so many books!
766
00:35:53,716 --> 00:35:56,763
Yes but we are not
one inch closer to..
767
00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:58,721
...to those flying machines
that the books talk about.
768
00:35:58,808 --> 00:36:01,115
Or to the stars.
769
00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:03,813
And, and if the truth really
does lie in the stars
770
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:06,729
then how will we
ever know the truth?
771
00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:08,601
Look at the others.
772
00:36:08,688 --> 00:36:10,559
The blessed Sheridan.
773
00:36:10,646 --> 00:36:12,996
Who lived and died..
774
00:36:13,083 --> 00:36:14,694
...and returned from the dead
775
00:36:14,781 --> 00:36:16,913
and was taken bodily
into heaven.
776
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,221
And Ivanova the strong,
Delenn, the wise..
777
00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:22,049
They could all be fables
for all we know.
778
00:36:23,746 --> 00:36:24,660
And the worst of it.
779
00:36:24,747 --> 00:36:26,184
What?
780
00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:30,623
I was halfway through
illuminating it when..
781
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:32,059
...my heart just left me.
782
00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:39,284
The prophecies, the prophecies
of Delenn, the third
783
00:36:39,371 --> 00:36:42,635
said that the Anla Shak,
the Rangers
784
00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:44,767
would come again
to the Earth
785
00:36:44,854 --> 00:36:50,120
in her greatest hour
of need and rebuild
786
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,819
what was once the cradle
of Sheridan and the Alliance.
787
00:36:54,734 --> 00:36:58,041
And we have waited
so, so long, Brother Alwyn
788
00:36:58,128 --> 00:37:00,609
and they have never come.
789
00:37:00,696 --> 00:37:02,481
If that's a myth, then..
790
00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:04,309
...then everything else
could be a myth.
791
00:37:06,136 --> 00:37:09,139
And the whole of my life
could just be a lie.
792
00:37:10,924 --> 00:37:14,971
And if they do not come today
but they come tomorrow
793
00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:16,930
is your life a lie then?
794
00:37:18,932 --> 00:37:21,500
I cannot help you,
Brother Michael.
795
00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:24,154
That is what faith is for.
796
00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:27,332
Faith sustains us in the hour
797
00:37:27,419 --> 00:37:31,249
when reason tells us
that we cannot continue.
798
00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:35,470
That the whole of our lives
is without meaning.
799
00:37:35,557 --> 00:37:38,604
Then why were we born able
to reason if reason's useless?
800
00:37:38,691 --> 00:37:42,085
Not useless,
but it's also not enough.
801
00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:45,175
Faith and reason
are the shoes on your feet.
802
00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:48,788
You can travel further with both
than you can with just one.
803
00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:52,487
If you must have reason for
an answer, then consider this.
804
00:37:52,574 --> 00:37:55,621
If today the Rangers
came back to Earth
805
00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:58,754
from their place in the heavens,
you would not know about it.
806
00:37:58,841 --> 00:38:01,975
They would come in secret
and move around and help us.
807
00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:04,412
And we wouldn't even know
they were here
808
00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:09,025
because the secret that
they bring is feared by people
809
00:38:09,112 --> 00:38:13,682
who still blame science
for the Great Burn.
810
00:38:13,769 --> 00:38:16,555
Then you think
the Rangers are here today?
811
00:38:16,642 --> 00:38:18,034
Well..
812
00:38:18,121 --> 00:38:21,255
I believe they could be.
813
00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,910
That's all that faith requires.
814
00:38:23,997 --> 00:38:28,001
That we surrender ourselves
to the possibility of hope.
815
00:38:28,088 --> 00:38:31,309
With that, I am content.
816
00:38:31,396 --> 00:38:33,398
And I believe
you will be as well.
817
00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,319
It's beautiful work.
818
00:38:41,406 --> 00:38:45,801
Too lovely and significant
for you to half finish.
819
00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:47,803
Finish your illumination,
Brother Michael.
820
00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:49,327
You've gone this far.
821
00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:50,980
It's too late to lose
your faith now.
822
00:38:51,067 --> 00:38:53,896
Or my faith in you.
823
00:38:53,983 --> 00:38:57,117
If the, uh, truth really
is in the stars, Brother Alwyn
824
00:38:57,204 --> 00:39:00,033
then just once,
once before I die
825
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,079
I really wish that I could walk
amongst those stars.
826
00:39:03,166 --> 00:39:06,344
Uh, If there is a way,
Brother Michael
827
00:39:06,431 --> 00:39:09,129
I pray that your wish
comes true.
828
00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:16,528
Oh.
829
00:39:16,615 --> 00:39:17,790
Oh, dear.
830
00:39:20,009 --> 00:39:22,969
Your energy level's
almost down to nothing!
831
00:39:23,056 --> 00:39:26,015
I'm going to have to sit you
in the sun tomorrow to recharge.
832
00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:31,064
Alwyn Macomber reporting in.
833
00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:33,588
Nothing of substance
to report since my last.
834
00:39:33,675 --> 00:39:37,200
Uh, we think we may have
gathered enough information
835
00:39:37,287 --> 00:39:39,072
from the time pre Burn
836
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,684
to assemble a working
gasoline engine.
837
00:39:42,771 --> 00:39:45,470
Obviously, there's no gasoline
in this part of the country.
838
00:39:45,557 --> 00:39:47,341
Therefore, we ask
the supply department
839
00:39:47,428 --> 00:39:49,822
if they could, uh, arrange
840
00:39:49,909 --> 00:39:51,737
to have a suitable
supply of gasoline
841
00:39:51,824 --> 00:39:55,349
found in the vicinity
near the abbey in a few days.
842
00:39:55,436 --> 00:39:58,265
Only this time,
for Valen's sake
843
00:39:58,352 --> 00:40:01,442
please make it look like
an old container.
844
00:40:01,529 --> 00:40:04,184
The last one could've been
produced a 100 years ago.
845
00:40:15,891 --> 00:40:18,198
We will rebuild the Earth.
846
00:40:18,285 --> 00:40:22,942
Mmm. Though it take us
another 2,000 years.
847
00:40:23,029 --> 00:40:25,988
But this time,
we will build it better.
848
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:32,821
I'm attaching a conversation
I just had with Brother Michael
849
00:40:32,908 --> 00:40:35,476
who I still think
would be a worthy recruit
850
00:40:35,563 --> 00:40:36,999
after he's grown a little.
851
00:40:37,086 --> 00:40:39,741
Give him another 20 years
and he'll be fine.
852
00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:46,879
Alwyn, Anla Shak,
Earth sector. End report.
853
00:40:46,966 --> 00:40:50,099
We live for the one,
we die for the one.
854
00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:51,187
'Record ends.'
855
00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:52,537
'Auto play feature complete.'
856
00:40:52,624 --> 00:40:53,755
Stand by.
857
00:40:57,542 --> 00:40:59,457
'System has finished processing
and archiving records'
858
00:40:59,544 --> 00:41:02,155
'for period of 1 million years
from initial scanning date.'
859
00:41:02,242 --> 00:41:05,114
'Instructions?'
860
00:41:05,201 --> 00:41:08,248
Our job is finished.
Convey records to new Earth.
861
00:41:08,335 --> 00:41:09,771
'Confirmed.'
862
00:41:09,858 --> 00:41:11,425
Use enhanced tachyon sequence
863
00:41:11,512 --> 00:41:13,862
to ensure arrival
in time for the celebrations.
864
00:41:13,949 --> 00:41:14,950
'Confirmed. Note.'
865
00:41:15,037 --> 00:41:16,386
'Atypical solar emissions'
866
00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,084
'increasing in intensity.'
867
00:41:18,171 --> 00:41:21,566
'Estimate sol will hit nova
in less than 5 standard hours.'
868
00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:23,481
'Recommend immediate
evacuation.'
869
00:41:23,568 --> 00:41:26,005
Tell the others not to worry.
870
00:41:26,092 --> 00:41:28,703
I wouldn't miss this
for anything.
871
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:29,922
Now go on.
872
00:41:36,494 --> 00:41:38,974
This is how the world ends.
873
00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:42,412
Swallowed in fire
but not in darkness.
874
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,240
You will live on.
875
00:41:44,327 --> 00:41:47,548
The voice of all our ancestors,
the voice of our fathers
876
00:41:47,635 --> 00:41:50,551
and our mothers
to the last generation.
877
00:41:50,638 --> 00:41:53,641
We created the world we think
you would've wished for us.
878
00:41:53,728 --> 00:41:56,514
And now we leave the cradle
for the last time.
879
00:42:31,418 --> 00:42:33,725
You should sleep.
880
00:42:33,812 --> 00:42:35,553
We both have early meetings.
881
00:42:36,858 --> 00:42:38,381
Yeah, I know.
882
00:42:40,427 --> 00:42:42,472
I was just thinkin'
about it all.
883
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,039
Everything we've done..
884
00:42:45,693 --> 00:42:48,130
...and what I said earlier.
885
00:42:48,217 --> 00:42:51,786
And I was wondering
if theywillremember us
886
00:42:51,873 --> 00:42:54,572
a hundred years from now
or a thousand.
887
00:42:57,096 --> 00:43:00,229
And I figure probably not.
888
00:43:00,316 --> 00:43:02,275
But it doesn't matter.
889
00:43:02,362 --> 00:43:04,799
We did what we did
because it was right.
890
00:43:04,886 --> 00:43:07,062
Not to be remembered.
891
00:43:07,149 --> 00:43:10,413
And history will
attend to itself.
892
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:11,589
It always does.
67410
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