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Nevermind the interpretations.

Leave those for - will you? -

for when we start filming.

So, this scene
comes right after.

The two of you are coming back home,

and you should say:

'Viorel said the same thing
when he got the lollipop,'

'that I should suck it
just like Daniela.'

The lollipop. You know?

Only without 'the lollipop'.

'Viorel told me
to suck the lollipop'

'just like Daniela sucks it.'

Good.

You need to be revolted.

You're not OK with that.
It bothered you.

Want us to play it out?

'That's what Viorel told me
when he got that lollipop,'

'to suck it
just like Daniela.'

Let's see it.

'Viorel told me to suck the lollipop'
just like Daniela sucks the lollipop.'

Good, but without 'the lollipop'.

And more revolted.

'Viorel told me to suck it
like Daniela sucks.'

'...Sucks it.'

Yes.
But say the whole thing.

- 'And then'...
- Into the camera.

'Viorel told me to suck it
just like Daniela sucks it.'

Fantastic.

Can we have a little talk, please?

Could you wait here
for 5 minutes?

Thanks.

- It went great.
- Please, go ahead.

- Was that really fine?
- Simply excellent.

To tell you the truth,
she's just what we need.

She has this lovely face...

Maybe a bit shy,
but that's normal.

Really, she did great.

And we have you to thank for it.

I mean it.

Now, there's this
slightly delicate matter.

Her character will have to
mimic a sex position.

It's nothing to worry about,
it's just that.

It will be obvious
that she's just pretending,

she's not undressed or anything.

the pimp is teaching her
how to mimic it,

and records her
to show the clients.

She's not undressed or anything.

Andrei didn't tell me anything about that.

No, 'cause we've decided
not to say too much.

People tend to worry...

You don't need
to decide right now,

Just think about it.

Corina, seeing Anca now,
knowing Emi's work and the subject,

I think the film
will be amazing.

It could be a huge success,
maybe even get to Cannes...

And no nudity or such.
Just mimicking a sex position.

True, it's no small thing
for her age.

But she has friends at school,
surfs the Internet,

she's not a complete innocent.

- I don't know...
- You needn't decide now.

Just give it some thought.

I really like your daughter,
and I want her to play in it.

If you don't agree,
I can understand your choice,

there are other girls, no problem.
Only it would be a pity.

I need to talk with my husband,
this is her image at stake.

Absolutely!

But what you've seen here
is just an audition.

Now it's got no lights,
no production design.

It looks cheap,
it won't be like that.

I meant her image
as a prostitute.

I understood that,
but you'll see it's not unrelated.

In film processing,
aesthetically speaking,

if the message is strong,
the public's mood is very different.

They'll see that this is art.

Just a moment.

Radu!

Can you do that thing,
put the lights on the girl?

Just for the lady to see.

- The chiaroscuro?
- Would you?

- Got it.
- Thanks.

Radu is one of the best
in the country.

Director of photography, I mean.

Now, about
what we need the girl to do.

If you feel it's too much,
we'll just stop.

- Will you tell her?
- Sure.

Now what?

Anca, do your knees hurt?

Would you be more comfortable
on your elbows?

Want a pillow?
You sure?

Sweetie,
just like I showed you.

What does Lala do
when he's all happy?

And when he jumps around?

What? It's our doggy.

Give her that lollipop.

Sweetie, if you had
a lollipop on the floor,

how would you eat it?

Andrei will bring you a lolly.

Look here.

Different, isn't it?

How about if... no, see,

this doggy doesn't...

he doesn't frolic about.

He just settles down
when he eats.

Good, and if
he moved very slowly?

Slowly, slowly now.

Now he moves back and forth...

Slow down.
That's right.

More slowly.

Fantastic!

That's all.

I do understand
what the film is about,

but I don't agree.

I didn't mean to waste your...
- Mrs. Popa.

I understand
that you're concerned,

it's absolutely natural.
Only, you see...

We need to make
a film about abuse.

To raise awareness
of human trafficking.

You think we'd be capable
of doing the very same?

Of abusing a child?

Would ARTE co-finance
just any film?

I don't think so.
You know why?

They're interested in
art, in social themes.

Where there's art,
there's no obscenity.

Take Lars von Trier's
new film, Nymphomaniac.

There'll be a lot of nudity in it.

But it has metaphors, a political message...
It's bound to get to Cannes.

There's this really cool actress in it,
Charlotte Gainsbourg,

I know her.

She has a lot of nude scenes to play.

Think she was embarrassed
to act in them?

She's a grown woman.

- True, but...
- Take Taxi Driver, for instance.

Jodie Foster, De Niro,
she was 12 or 13,

just like Anca. Right?

Famous film, Oscar,
Jodie Foster - famous.

That's her.
Anca is my daughter.

Many films barely
toe the line between obscenity and art.

Or that old Japanese film
that's greatly admired,

'In the Realm of the Senses',
from the '70s.

Back then it created outrage,
it was labelled pornographic.

Now we know it's art,
there's nothing obscene in it.

Because quality art
turns obscenity into value.

And value never dies.

With a film like that,
Anca, too, could become immortal.

Maybe, but her life will be affected.

How will she face
her teachers, schoolmates, other people?

Sorry, but that's...

You do realize, this way we'd
never get to make a film.

Have you considered that, later,
Anca may blame you for it?

Of course I have.
It's not an easy decision.

My point exactly.

People here are different.

They see, they talk...

Come on, how many Romanians
go see a Romanian film?

I'm talking about Anca's friends.
They'll want to see her, won't they?

- So?
- Schoolmates, teachers, relatives...

So what?
Can you be more specific?

Don't take this the wrong way, but...

Isn't it a little immoral,
using a child like that?

True, it is a little immoral.

But how else to talk about
an abused, underage prostitute?

How are we to raise awareness
of immoral acts?

You think I haven't considered that
I could be committing abuse?

I have! That's why I try
not to do the same thing.

Aren't we here
to put our cards on the table?

To have an open talk?

- Please, don't take it the wrong way...
- Of course not.

What do you think?

Did anyone claim Jodie Foster was abused?

- No.
- Well, there were voices...

Of course there were,
I think that was abuse too.

That's why we try
to do things differently.

No one points fingers
when you've bagged the Oscar.

Isn't that right?

Didn't we say we'd speak frankly?

I'll have to talk it over
with my husband.

Talk it over with anyone.

Since Emi mentioned
cases of minor abuse,

I've had this argument
with my wife recently.

We have a four-year old daughter...

She wants her to take piano lessons.
I told her:

"You want her to play the piano
to satisfy your personal pleasure."

Because everyone does it,
but I think it's abuse.

- Anca takes piano lessons, right?
- Yes.

If you have her do it
and she doesn't like it,

that's abuse too.
- Oh, no, she loves it.

- How do you know that?
- Emi, wait.

'Cause you told her to?

- When did she start?
- At four.

I doubt a four-year old
can decide for herself.

By deciding for her,
we're committing abuse.

What's wrong with
her playing the piano?

- It's not that it's wrong.
- Why not trumpet lessons?

Joke aside,
why not the dulcimer, or drums?

I was thinking along the same lines.

We want them to play the piano
because it's elegant,

but maybe that kid
would rather play the djembe,

or the xylophone,
or learn karate,

or maybe they
don't like any of those,

and I think that's an abuse.

Isn't this the same?
Shoving it down her throat?

There's a huge difference,
I'm sorry you don't see it.

Haven't we agreed
there'd be no pressure?

That we'd do only what Anca wants?

So? You asked me, not her.

Because you're her mother!

If she was from the orphanage,
we'd have asked there.

We wanted to be more delicate,

thinking you'd know best
how to treat her,

or tell us how to treat her.

- Don't you think so?
- You're right.

But I'm not sure
we're doing the right thing.

Let's just ask Anca.

Hey, kiddo!

You must be bored by now.

Sorry we got so worked up
and ignored you,

but now we need
to know something.

Would you like to play
an underage prostitute?

Don't look at Mommy,
we need to know what you feel.

You'll only have to do
what you've done here,

no clothes off,
nothing embarrassing,

Mommy will be with you.

We just want
to know what you feel.

Well, I...

Sweetie, just say
what you want.

I won't hold it against you
if you decide not to,

although we'd love to have you in it.

I'd love to be in it,
only... I don't know.

Glad to hear that.

Ma'am...

Go home,

talk it over
with your husband, with Anca,

and in a few days... Either way,
we'll stay friends.

Just give us a call.

Isn't that fairer?

I'll do that.

We'll talk,
we'll think it through...

- I'll call you, Andrei, yes?
- Sure.

You're really tense.

This hurts so bad.

- Here?
- Yep.

I did feel
a few vertebrae crack.

Wanna bet she won't call back?

Wouldn't surprise me.

After you got so ticked off...

Wouldn't you have been angry
in my place?

- I don't think so.
- Really?

Good for you.

She brings the kid here,
then she claims it's immoral.

Well, it is immoral.

Big or small,
it's still abuse.

Are we back to that?

Just having the girl act it
already weirds me out.

Sure. We're making artsy-fartsy films
on other people's money.

She'd earn heaps
without showing any skin.

Really, Emi, she's just a child...

Did I force her to come here?

Did I drag her in from the street?

What was her mother
bringing her here for?

I called her.

Good thing you did.

- And the girl is great.
- Good thing you did.

I wouldn't bring my kids
to a casting like this.

But by all means, let loose.
I'm all out of ideas.

I don't have any idea either.

But isn't it a bit much,
talking about Cannes and Oscar?

I don't think so at all.
I'd like to get to Cannes.

You don't think the Oscar thing
was over the top?

Over the top how?

I think it's gross manipulation.

- Manipulation?
- That's right.

Maybe.

That means I'm very stupid.

In fact, I feel like I'm
the only stupid factor in the equation.

Starting tomorrow,
I'll just be a tripod

and sit there in a corner,
keeping mum.

OK?
You do all the talking.

- It's not about that.
- Then what?

Don't get angry at me,

I really don't like
how she had to mimic stuff.

And you think I do?

No, seriously.
Do you?

I don't, but what can we do,
call off the casting?

- I don't want that.
- See, neither do I.

But that's how
big films are made.

'In the Realm of the Senses',
the others you brought up.

What are we to do?

You have to put your life on the table.
People want truth, real stuff.

You bring it all out and lay it down.

Oh really, how do you lay
your life down in this film?

You weren't a prostitute,
or a pimp and I didn't know...

You haven't done any of that.

Maybe I wasn't,
but I am one now.

Prostitution on public funding.
Making art!

What's the difference
between us and a corner girl?

You know what it is?

At least she's doing it
for her kids!

Yes.

I sent it this morning.

I'll send it again.

- Emi!
- OK, OK.

Emi, there's a cloud in this room.

Send that idiot the bill,
I forgot.

- What?
- Emi, come see this. Just a sec.

So beautiful.

Must be the smoke machine.