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did you molest Denise no what about

pamby no when I was three that's when he

started with his penis yes I read how

you'd bring them into your bedroom

ask them to rub your back you wore no

clothes and then then you'd have them

lie next to you and you would molest

them bringing me into the bedroom and

saying you know you know rub my neck

can you gonna rub my you don't remember

of molesting Jenice I did lead into some

type of sucking his dick or some I'm not

you know June and Jerry no goddamn it

touched me fondled me and told me don't

you tell you mom there's all kinds of

things that happen here

why did you do that I didn't do that son

of a [ __ ] now shut up now

it's time to weep time to laugh a time

to mourn and a time to dance

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I didn't even know what [ __ ] once in

the second grade and nobody said not to

do it or not to [ __ ] your cousin our

parents were in the front of the mobile

home playing cards and we were in the

back bedroom she lost her virginity when

she was 4 years old but it didn't start

with us and it didn't start with our

parents

it started with our grandparents a long

long time ago I decided to go back home

and put the pieces of a long-forgotten

puzzle together for the first time what

was grandma's personality like back then

she was cold I can remember her and dad

would get ready to go out and remember

she'd have her fingernails done and her

hair done beautiful and it was like

don't touch mom don't mess up her hair

stay away till she had a few drinks then

she's happy-go-lucky right she never

worked panties

she'd stand in the front yard spread her

legs and pee that's our mother real

class act how many times have you been

married fine

but only for a new for tonight and your

first husband was Elmer and yet how many

kids were there who were they the oldest

floor

two hands and Jim reviews memories be

living out in Hanceville had a creek ran

through

when the rains came who was out there

playing with little boats make little

different channels and stuff like that

Oh my earliest memory is probably when I

was about 2 or 3 years old when they'd

out in the country down the country road

was a mom-and-pop store and gas station

stuff and I remember hopping on my

little tricycle to go down there and see

my friend and my mother came after me

with a willow switch and switched me all

the way home we had all worked at berry

fields your mother was out there Jim

didn't do much to play around and then

ditches but we picked berries all summer

to make money and that's where we're

gonna get our new school clothes shoes

the hallward's they had an old chicken

house or something there so in our off

time out of the fields we would over

clean this chicken house up and we'd

literally wrote our own script for a

little play he did a theater thing we

run against all of the arrows there to

come and see this play we put on a show

phone so I knew entertainment was my

line

they were only kids

and I don't mean return when they were

labeling yeah really true of his

appearing you know mom and had a contest

with the guys one night out drinking

gonna feared about this I didn't hear

about this she bet she could be hired

and they could and so they're okay

they're ready to have this contest she

says no hands she won and she bragged

about that and her big thrill was to

hide the guys undershorts stuff him

under the car any of the seat whatever

so whenever they were finished they

couldn't find him and she brought him

home she had all sizes okay

thirteen years old and I'm seeing what's

going on here under search the men's

jockey shorts I remember that we lived

behind the pita Weiser tavern right mom

decided she was gonna leave dad it only

took three months to get a divorce

back then and like the day or two after

the divorce was final she married Melvin

Jess and she was already a month

pregnant

and then he married just that was Melvin

just so he became the stepfather of he

was the stepfather of myself the twins

and Noble Jeff that grandpa just was

your stepfather for how many years quite

a few years comes well over a decade oh

yeah yeah and it was also comments well

he's not marrying our mother he's

marrying her because she has three young

daughters I was 12 years old at the time

they were married and it just totally

just destroyed our lives what was

grandpa just personality like very

caring person as far as I could tell

they were happy

so I mean I never saw him beating on my

I was a punch bag to them you remember

my mother

Annamarie oh yeah what do you remember

that nice little girl cute little girl

one night they come home drinking and he

was just literally beating the hell out

of her she's down on the floor she had

long hair and he's dragging her across

the floor saying he was gonna take her

out and run over with car and I ran in

his closet and got his 12-gauge shotgun

and pulled the trigger

it just clicked cuz it wasn't loaded

then he saw me and come across the room

and threw me you put your hands down my

mother's she tried to shoot you with the

gun you were beating my grandma she

pulled a rifle out and tried to shoot

you stayed there but the gun was not

loaded so he knew you tried to kill him

how did he treat you he always treated

me good I got a brand-new bicycle for my

13th birthday

brand-new Schwinn I think we were on

welfare you know he was still after me

that guy could fix any damn thing from a

roller skate to an earthmover

is probably the sharpest guy with a

wrench I've ever seen what was life like

then pretty mixed up pretty confusing

just kind of crunched around and found a

break in you know the old style

batteries found a brick put a couple

screws in there jumped up in that thing

it started to talk to screws if the damn

thing was running him long in our family

and there was nothing else kid to do

about it

he took the engine out of the Bonneville

adapted everything over it and put it in

that Plymouth I was a hottest old car I

ever seen I mean a guy will take two

cats and tie the tails together and let

him fight over clotheslines he'll when

I'm dead

that's a character he can always add to

make his lunch

and always wanted you know like two

bologna sandwiches and this and that

I used to admit inevitably the foil on

the Bologna

you haven't said the name of it damn you

Jim you did it again we'd heard rumors

of things that he had done but nothing

ever pinpointed down and no one wanted

to believe it especially our mother and

killed the murdered the county nurse

here highway 36 everybody knows it which

kids did Grandma and Grandpa just half

together they had June and Jerry joy and

they were about two years apart so

they're your half sisters mm-hmm geez

you're a beautiful too much alcoholic

like I was for now is younger hey go to

bed drinking and as soon as I wake up

say it's 3:00 in the morning it's time

for a beer and a cigarette go to sleep

wake up about five six styrodur in Syria

and when I'm up at 8:00 for the rest of

the day I'm drinking then are you down

Pollak yeah actually I am

are you addicted to drugs no have you

been in the past yes lots for a long

time I used to sell drugs I made my

living selling drugs I can't even look

at my own two little sisters knowing he

destroyed them June and Jerry he

destroyed them and my mother went along

with it

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so you've been watching grandma getting

progressively less enthused about living

get to where I could niche and couldn't

walk couldn't even get around in the

wheelchair I didn't hear from mom ever

since I moved back into this area ten

years ago my brother I just liked him

for what he's doing my mom what is his

profession now in home care i've

actually pulled three of her teeth you

talk about a gutsy default pliers she'd

sit there in the doorway and i take

their pliers and yank him out there's

one of them had to try three times it

was evidently went up and curved the

third time i tried it i went ahead and

did a little bit of a twist on it and i

came back

see you got girl cry well mom is upset

because Uncle Jim is still letting you

drink a lot of beer and six beers she's

wasted does Uncle Jim drink with her

nope

does he fire the beer yep enjoy my beer

and we talked to the doctor and if she

eats right he's going to permit her to

have that beer the doctor told me I

could and I think he knows better than

and does he told you if she wants two or

three beers before she goes to bed it's

all right can't take everything away

from her

that's if she'll eat 50% of her supper

meal she gets in she gets that as a

reward

so psychology you know I'll tell you

what to reach his life right now suppose

the twins came that kind of gave the

wheel there's a tear in your beer

because I'm crying for you dude you were

always on my mind into these last few

beers you don't think it's the drinking

that is doing grandma in right now no I

think that's one day it's keeping her

going I wait her night before last

she had 16 ounces of beer before she

went to bed

she weighed 72 pounds

take away sixteen sixteen ounces of beer

he's back down to 17 pounds

she'd be up to 85 if you come to with 10

more pounds of beer

she can't handle ten pounds how is uncle

Jim now huh how was Uncle Jim down how

is he you know he propositioned Jerri

when she's totally down and out to come

and live with him and he'll take care of

her but to be his like his wife delivers

a couple sexual satisfaction is where he

put it the only reason I did it is

because I don't want being alone Jerry

has not had a home in years

he wanted me to live with him and sleep

with him

I'm Jerry make something of yourself

I will help you she gave us some thought

why do you think she'd have a problem

basically being your wife I almost had

dawned on you Oh oh [ __ ] I think he's

sick okay this is trying to get me and I

think yesterday I

I hadn't seen him for a long time when I

was living up and Washington he came and

he seen me and we went for a walk out in

the apple orchard cuz I was working at

an apple orchard and he grabbed my boob

I think two consenting adults whatever

they deem is right is right you know to

hell with what the rest there is having

sex with your daughter eating right

there's a lot of guys that do it I went

like that and just said knock it off and

I headed back to the house to kill

someone that's definitely wrong but to

have sex with a stepsister I don't see

where that is all that wrong well

half-sister you have the same mother

okay what advice did you give Jerry I

just told her I said well it's up to you

how do you feel about him now I won't

put myself in a position to be alone

with him for nothing nowhere

what did you say I turn no I can't do

this Jim you're my brother I can't live

with you I can't sleep with you you're

my brother don't you get it so

I was five years old when one of my

uncle's molested me we were down in the

basement of our house where my mom made

apple jelly it was really dark

he was already hard when he unzipped his

pants and pulled out his penis and asked

me to play with it I just did what he

said I was curious about everything why

not

grownups penis it wasn't sexual to me it

was sexual to him I was just a little

kid

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since Uncle Jim was abused as a kid my

grandpa just his stepfather I asked him

about the relationship back then well as

far as Melvin was concerned I couldn't

do nothing right mom and him came in I

was asleep that was a pallet on the

floor and this must be me mom and then

Melvin and that guy somehow had her

drunk enough that he ended up in the

middle and he woke me up with his hands

down my clothes and all over and then

I've got up out of bed screaming and

saying mom what's going on here and he

act like he was half-asleep and soon

nothing's going on and she says what's

wrong with you you get back into bed I

says no way I went only got in the

corner is child molester what he was

he tried to take my younger sister into

a bedroom I knew what was going on which

one and my mom yeah your Aunt Jean and

aunt Jen and I were rehearsing for a

song we were going to sing the next day

in Sunday school mom was out drinking he

had come home and went to bed and pretty

soon he hollers anna-marie and he

hollered two or three times and I went

to his bedroom door and he said get over

here he pulled me down on top of him I

thought that might be the end of it

wasn't that lucky I went in went to bed

and pretty soon Melvin came in gotten

bad and within a couple minutes he's

reaching over and putting his hands in

my pajamas down into my panties

my mom's been suicidal my whole life I

used to pretend over and over in my head

that she was dead so if it actually

happened

I wouldn't freak out and just lose it

one of the last calls in fact the last

call I that gets my head from her about

committing suicide she was in the

bathtub had already sliced her wrists

there's been more than one time when I

did try to commit suicide

how overdosing on pills I slashed my

wrists and then got into a warm bath tub

I mean I'd be on a phone with her for

long enough for her to bleed to death

and she was making sure to keep the

water warm just to make her bleed faster

have you attempted suicide

well twice and then once I was

overwhelmed again but I'm a shotgun out

was no she was soon

I remember stretching backstage at this

dance competition I got a call that my

mom had hooked a hose up to her exhaust

pipe and fed it through the window of

her convertible I hooked the hose up to

my car I called the paramedics and just

went out on stage our champions hail

from the Los Angeles Valley doors

she hosts her own music video show in

London England and James Whitney who was

a Chippendales dancer going for third

victory this evening welcome James and

Sally

i sat there concentrating on the routine

and acted as though nothing happened

grandpa just destroyed my family and

almost destroyed my mom when I'm

finished with him he'll either be in

jail or he'll be dead that's a promise

we can't just sit back and act like

we're victims or we become the losers

it's all about finding a way to survive

if your mom kills herself shame on her

but you can't let it destroy you talk

about it get angry about it do whatever

you've got to do but don't give up when

I decide I better stop this stuff is

when you came in the hospital room one

time you were in college and you were so

mad at me you were so mad even when my

mom cries it's hard for me to go up and

just put my arms around her how could

you do this I wouldn't wasn't doing

something to you I didn't mean to be

doing it to you

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when things get heavy I'd rather sit

down at the keyboards and write a song

and just deal with it through music the

more my family told me the heavier

things got I was determined to keep my

promise but for some reason Melvin and

myself

and the kids went divorce instead he got

tired

one evening he took the two little girls

in the back and I remember the truck

rock I had a piece of sand in my eye I

guess you know how irritating that is

there's no way that I could sleep and I

kind of yelled at him you know think the

baby he get the sand out of my eye he's

like shut up and go to sleep I don't

want to hear another word out of you I

think I was 15 at the time but just you

know the motion was truck and everything

you tell what's going on did you ever

tell the authorities what he was doing

yeah but they couldn't prove nothing but

you still stayed with them for a while

yeah did you ever say anything to him

what the authorizing when June was two

years old is when I walked in and found

him molesting her in bed I had already

told you part of this though that I

suspected what was going on mom would

get up and act like she's going to fix

the bottle and then she would take Jim

out of bed take her diaper off and put

her in bed with Melvin he made it a

point to let her by know he slept in the

nude there are all kinds of things that

happened here which of the kids were you

closest to June is kind of your favorite

yeah you know my mother actually walked

in on the two of you when he was

molesting you is it because you block

all of this out that you don't rent sure

of it I'm sure of it do you remember

giving Jerry and her friends tampons to

have sex with him no tampons I mean that

was a good one for him when we got on

the Ray yeah running by a stamp özil if

you need to do something or something

wait a minute yeah that's not too good

that's sick

I've always been very close with June

and Jerry and even though they're

intelligent their lives are pretty

messed up my mom has a very high IQ and

survived by learning about these psychos

even to this day she reads about Ted

Kaczynski Jeffrey Dahmer helter skelter

was unbelievable and rule the stranger

beside meathead bending there was Norman

Mailer wrote the executioner's song what

is your IQ

well the last time we checked it was 160

and yours was 158 and you've been trying

to you've been competing with me ever

since but that's how I raised you to be

competitive my mom never gave up and she

raised me not to give up I wanted to do

whatever I could to help her with the

past so I just kept on trying to learn

all the different pieces of the puzzle

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the judges give James and Sally three

and three-quarter stars and we would

watch game shows we didn't watch game

shows we've competed with these game

shows which you know that paid off for

you because later you went on a couple

of dates again that's very fine you made

a lot of money doing that

morning alarm clock yes one down three

to go

okay

digging shoveling Spade pile a hole

I moved on to the next competition and

grandpa just moved on to his next family

my dad left my mom for Venise and that

is a fact he left mom for Venice Benson

who lived down the road who had a bunch

of little girls and he ended up with her

and those little girls and he molested

every one of them and the reason he left

my mom for venes is because she had all

those young daughters at least once or

twice during them practically hope just

after this girl in one minute we were

pissed off for that girl so we were

moving bed stir periodically the niece

was known second wife after you she's

still living what was beneath like she

was okay mom that she was ignorant she

was like my mom oh no he wouldn't be

doing that and yeah she talked to me on

the phone one time yeah he was more than

she could take care of I said oh you

wanted him baby take care of him she

said well if I just had a little help

around man I said well I didn't have any

help with them I don't think I was that

line but maybe I was but I was there

constantly I wasn't out and about

drinking or anything I was there all the

time with my kids

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and II was born in 16

Denis was born at 62 what's your

relationship like with Vinny snow right

now beyond Bobby was born in 65 oh yeah

Manya she just played it off like it was

normal routine no no no you got what no

uncle grandpa hydrogen ease and 79 did

you know what did you tell her what

happened

oh yeah we all did all of us did I mean

you know three times I came to her no I

just said mom I'm feeling like it's my

fault like I you're all mad at me and

she said hey is it your fault

is it no mom

straight up although I believed what my

aunt's told me venes deny that they ever

talked to her about the abuse who are

your real sisters and who are your half

sisters I've got so many to count

Mel is my dad her dad in June's bed is

my mom she was barefoot and pregnant

when she had Pam be his natural children

that he fathered is June and Jerry joy

with my mother and Janice

with Vinicius Benson those are his

natural children as far as stepchildren

there's your aunt Jan and Aunt Jane the

twins myself your uncle Jim we were

Hurst of his first stepchildren when he

left my mother and what was the niece

the stepchildren would have been Pam be

Denise and Bobby would have been his

stepdaughters but this is where I live

this here was given to me mm-hmm this

camper I mean it's pretty trash but it

was given to me from a friend of mine

and that's my refrigerator

oh you want to see my fridge I live it

in the back of a Nissan pickup there's

only room now for a bed and I have my

dog my two cats a new boyfriend and

anything we have to keep with us it's

right there beside us who can sleep with

it and they're gonna my freezer Hey

this is for the fourth of July what are

those vodka cherries you need to clean

it up if you had none we were coming

right this is we're coming to my house

now this is where I live

come on in oh I'm sure more lights the

two of you here dog you're forever a

Jane Curtin III do have brain damage

just falling out of trees

you know just bumping my head too many

times who taught you how to walk the

Shriners did

did your mother teach you

no but I taught her with a stroller mm

she had to push the stroller the kids

would pull it and make her walk didn't

like that well then she got to move it

around and then we lost it what exactly

are you diagnosed with ehlers-danlos

syndrome she was born congenital no hip

sockets no knee joint and a clubfoot

which is sounds worse than what it is

and then they tried to tell me she was

retired to what she was she is a retired

she's small you know these seen those

kind of people but my daughter had this

attitude that yay look at me I'm gonna

get attention by preying on this

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she had everybody buffaloed bit their

mother so how far back do you remember

what age age of five where were you

living who who was raising you Denise

and Melvin it started when I was two I

was two years old instead of a lesson

and then and then when I was 878 sick

man then he started to molest me

at the age of five he started doing sex

with me like kind of pretty

you know what inside of me I was too

small when I was three that's when he

started with his penis yes twisting

doing the twisting child you know who

could do the twist and I did the twist

and she I won 25 cents oh yeah if he

doesn't corner of the way inside of me I

would get paid a quarter or half away 50

cents the hallway was a dollar

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what if you just said no he wouldn't

listen to the word null he didn't like

the word null

twist him doing the twist and shout

every time I turn around I was gonna get

molested get poked by the ride by the

cop okay you might call it prick I

didn't like the smell and he was dirty

it was never clean he never wore short

he had an awful odor I mean I don't

worry sometimes here but they sound

clean who didn't take shower you gave

her a quarter you were allowed to go a

quarter of the way yet who could do the

twist $0.50 half way don't be stupid

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he abused my rights as an adult as a

child as an infant what was the worst

crime he did in your mind

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have you ever strangled anybody that

heard the night chatter thanks well they

get to finish now but they won't bring

him down here no they have tried to say

that over the years because somebody

started the rumor that he did that do

you remember when I went to visit

grandma and went over to Grandpa Jess

was this at the same time that was going

on well he and mom were already

separated and I had let you go spend 4

or 5 days and the first thing she just

took you out loaded you all in the car

and took you down to Melbourne just

knowing that he's a child molester why

would you have taken me over there did

you trust him at that turn yes do you

want to see your grandpa my own mother

did that to me but she knew it was

molesting the kids at that time no I

didn't know it for sure when I was in a

little stroller

I've gone over to Fey's house

Bobby recalled when she was in a little

stroller grandpa just would drive in and

you had warned Bobby to back like she

was asleep

what was that all about he was my last

Jimmy at what age she was very old and

he was having sex with me one time he

had both of his leg on one leg on each

leg was I told him he was crashing them

he didn't listen long as he got what he

wanted then the nightmares ma'am

breathing on me and knowing then he's

gonna carry me into the bedroom and the

whole nine yards and I was a child

bringing me into the bedroom and said

you know you rub my neck

can you gonna rub my kidney and rub me

you know yeah it did lead into some type

of sucking his dick or something I'm not

you know I don't I'm pretty foggy

he tends to living in that house Ron I

was only three four five six seven eight

years old

all those years you put the bed gay on

his penis and stick it inside of me

sorry I still got the scar inside of me

been scar

first started out as color crayons

how many color crayons you can use

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to penetrate up inside you without it

hurtin no once when you get up to four

or five let me know

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which colors were they

then it was all about hot dogs not the

hot dogs you buy the store but this was

a link you can stick one of those up

there near least halfway let me know why

would you tell him when you could I

didn't know no better I thought it was

the thing to do that everybody's parents

it did that he says well I'll tell you

what this is how it is says Ida [ __ ] my

sister my sister [ __ ] my dad my dad

[ __ ] my mom and my mom [ __ ] the

mailman that write on my [ __ ] frog

[Laughter]

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it was always me by myself whenever he

decided to take me someplace either to

the dump or was mainly to the dump

prostitution okay well we were out in

the dumps and the dumps where nobody

could hear you scream nobody could hear

you cry it hurts but then it would meet

somebody on the way back and he would

exchange cash or whatever or whatever

and said now you got to go down here and

please him either give him a head job or

spread your legs and you better be nice

because if you ain't nice I'm taking out

on you later he got money lots of money

just pictures he even took pictures

that's sick he told me to be

experimental and who I experimented on

was Jerry

she really liked it so you got stuff all

over my face yeah I think yeah I'm her

sister experiences but from what I see

no they don't I was walking down the

beach yeah started back and there was a

struck coming and it was dark seeing his

headlights coming I all kinds of

different pills coatings and valiums and

all kind of Downers what's your

relationship like with June Jenna end up

using me and abusing me and telling me

it was okay and she was molesting you

yeah but these pills were taking effect

and I never told anybody I took them and

I just was walking like that

nonchalantly and when it got close

enough I stepped right out and burned it

first slice and slice of my wrist a

couple of times I tried to commit

suicide at the age of 16 to I tried to

go to try to draw myself taking my car

going up to the mountains and want and

drive it off the side you know I mean

how did you try to drown yourself by

walking through water and then it got

deeper and deeper I walked in with my

braces on and with all of the girls this

is what's happened to him it things

become so overwhelming you just want out

or you want help and you can't get out

and you can't get help and look where

they are today trying to OD on cough

syrup and beer I had to have

mouth-to-mouth

an ambulance came in it breaks my heart

it breaks my heart and what can I do I'm

gonna do something

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we both said we'd do something but we

didn't know what to do here our Morgan

Sandberg and Ron Whitney mom kept

attempting suicide

I kept competing in dance contests and

game shows we did rent a motor home and

went to visit everybody life just went

on grandma and venes kept denying

everything and grandpa just kept on

molesting the kids over and over and

over

please let this be over

let this be done quit doing this to me

Jenice is your own child

really and at age two you began

molesting her really come on now

hello neighbor voices art black boy yes

I know we see that white shirt over

there I wish I could have white Cadillac

like that

yeah they look black voices not mean you

know what I wish I was had hair all over

my body over my body and they go hey

hair all over your body yeah

my sister got a patch this big Jim

Beauchamp a number when I came to visit

you on Morgan Road yeah

you know we took a little trip up there

then we ran the motorhome and off we

went of course we had to stop and see

them I mean their family that's when I

was 16 I know we can't have anything

together tell you get some hair I know

my family's not exactly normal

I'm not even sure what normal is

supposed to be I've had no kids that

raised three monkeys my wedding was a

lot of fun but it wasn't traditional or

emotional

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I need you we've had some pretty lousy

experiences but we've never lost our

sense of humor and it's okay that not

everybody gets it train up a child in

the way she should go

they are old they will not turn from it

how do you feel about Jenice Jenny's

she's my sister

I love her but I worry about her why for

what she's doing to the kids and then

what she's gonna introduce her kids to

prostitution criminals what do you mean

drug addicts what do I mean looking at

her I mean you look at her okay maybe if

she don't get a piece of ass maybe you

know I'm Frankie gets a little older you

know hey get her in here boy

daughter to you what about Clarissa

Clarissa I'm hoping she's smarter

there's a kidney baby mama love this is

her straight-a student

Clarissa cycles of abuse tend to

continue did that happen with Clarissa

with Frankie no I got molester now seven

and I felt like it was my fault I did

something bad but I thought that I

deserved it and it was a punishment

there's the this is like the only really

badging that I get scared is this rope

and it comes closer and closer and I

don't know what it means but it I don't

have him anymore

where are you standing I'm hit I'm

standing on the other side of the room

and the rope is coming directly at you

yeah do you feel safe in life in general

now yeah who makes you feel safe my mom

my brother sometimes he can be a real

brat and imagine my mom's boyfriend are

you close with grandpa grandpa just sort

of I don't see it much anymore how do

you feel when you go around him I feel

sad

but you know he's a child molester and

you know what he did to your mom why

would you want to feel close with him

because it's I will always love him but

it he won't be forgiven but he's part of

a family

years ago when she was just a girl and

joong-won the police about grandpa just

I get headache being a vessel lien and a

hot dog day for dog to play with and I

wouldn't got all that stuff out of there

and gave it to the police and that and

but my little sisters would not talk

about it they went up to the cops went

up to the school and everything but they

wouldn't say nothing the kids wouldn't

say nothing so they didn't do nothing to

him about it in 1980 my aunt's were

finally willing to testify grandpa just

was arrested he was charged with 12

counts of child molestation

so you and Jerry's got on the stand yeah

and I just draw a picture of a penis and

I did it was crowded I felt all along

even God wasn't even with me those of

you oh I saw some looks I try not to

look at him because it went to grand

jury I tried to look at the juror I

couldn't even do that he was found

guilty and given 13 years he served

eight when they took him away the family

felt like somebody finally listened to

what they had to say a ton of bricks

instantly just like flew off my

shoulders I was free when did he go to

jail

Oh in about 1980 cuz he was in for eight

years and got out in 88 look at all

those years all those kids and here he

only got eight years you know inside you

just want to take that machine gun and

just cut him right in half yeah then he

turns around and tells the court that

you can't ease intimate he can't if I

can get it up excuse me yeah excuse me

oh yeah your mom she's no good mm-hmm

what yeah you're the best

yeah yeah the most disgusting human

being God ever created and he taught me

to hate where did you say you grew up I

grew up right here no place else right

here how long did you live here about

thirty years you got you have a birthday

coming up

no your tag what that's what it was and

Father's Day was last match yeah did

anybody come and visit you oh god damn

it

Vinny's didn't come to visit no do that

over the bank

where I used to take him out to threads

for biscuits and gravy well I can't do

that anymore just it's too too hard to

do and so I've just decided I'll take

them doing did you molest Denise no what

about pamby No

well I talked to them in depth about it

I bet the court transcripts and now I'm

taking a pancake I read how you'd bring

them into your bedroom

ask them to rub your back you wore no

clothes and then then you'd have them

lie next to you and you would molest

them do it so every Sunday now you bring

him blueberry pancakes yeah I'm not

there winning things I should be there

that he growled

you don't remember holding pamby down

hurting her legs and her telling you to

get off of her no no buddy you don't

remember of molesting Jenice nope June

and Jerry no goddamnit remember giving

Jerry and her friends tampons to have

sex with them Oh

you even put bengay on your penis and

penetrated pamby with it you've never

doing that No

you burned her physically inside why did

you do that I didn't do that son of a

[ __ ] now shut up now you gave her a

quarter if you were allowed to go a

quarter of the way in fifty cents half

way

one dollar all the way don't be stupid

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but I'm going to show you how goddamn

able I am to get above this wheelchair

and not the dog [ __ ] right out of you

you want to think you want to see that

huh how evil are you do you want to see

tell me I'd say you want to see you put

your hands down my mother's panties

uh-huh you wet you put your hands down

my mother's panties she tried to shoot

you with the gun you were beating

grandma she pulled a rifle out and tried

to shoot you but the gun was not loaded

she made that up right yeah they all

made everything up right yeah

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when I asked you about that incident

that happened with the nurse he told me

that you had nothing to do with it right

I tried to get grandpa Jess to finally

confess to the 1969 murder of the nurse

she was a social worker who'd been

assigned to protect the children what

does it feel like to strangle somebody

hello I know because you strangled the

nurse I did not

instead I turned to my family for some

answers

her name was Josephine I forget the last

name it was like Spiegel or something

like that

I think she's 5 945 pounds dark hair

kind of gruff didn't to live by herself

we were told that she wore men's pajamas

and smoked a pipe and was on a masculine

side she kept an itinerary and the last

thing on her schedule she had been to

one house and was on her way to the just

house

she walked in unannounced they had a bed

in the living room and he was in bed

with one of the girls and he's laying

there with me all right and then he goes

hey you and I go what he goes go in your

room and take a nap so I went into my

room we heard screaming and hollering

she goes I am NOT gonna let you hurt

these Benson kids like you hurt your own

the nurse was going to tell tell the

cops about what was going on with those

kids and he didn't like that idea

and what would he say he would slap her

just up and slap her she tried to leave

and he grabbed her there was kind of a

struggle it was like both you better

kill me because I'm gonna hurt you what

did you hear the voice say he's saying

he was gonna kill her next thing I know

is he grabbed the stupid iron of some

sort

he took a fireplace poker and hit her in

the head anyway went boom knocked her

down slammed her up against the wall is

what I heard slammed up against the wall

boom I heard the wall I heard her slam

heard the lace seeing the buttons next

thing you know is she ended up on the

ground I started to scream I was in my

bedroom under and underneath the bed

hiding from it hiding from it and I said

[ __ ] shut the door cuz he looked at

me and he was humping on her I seen that

he was killing her and her at the same

time you actually were screwing her

while you were strangled when you got

knocked in Ariadna I didn't know he was

humping her I mean I knew he was humping

her but I didn't know it was killing her

until the next day when I seen all the

blood what does that feel like I don't

know what it feels like you have knots

in your hair

he took a polygraph examination and

flunked it miserably and one of the

questions what did you did you kill the

nurse why would they make something like

that out don't have any idea if you

score a minus seven on a polygraph

examination you're considered deceptive

that's word they use he scored a minus

sixteen did you remember the police

asking you questions about it

he didn't ask me a question divided he

denied and denied and denied and then at

one point near the end of this interview

I asked him about the fireplace poker

the police never investigated no I know

they did I spoke to the police you're

lying or they're lying one or two and

expression came over his face to me was

how do you know about that

did you remember Lonnie Lawson yeah and

he finally near the end he leaned

forward in his chair and he slapped

himself on the leg he said okay I'm

gonna tell you okay

I'm rolana awesome he's scooted forward

in the chair and I knew he was gonna

that point tell me that he did this what

did you tell him happened then he said

no knowing threw his hands up weighed

them around and said no and step back

and that's all he he didn't say no I

didn't do it he said no I didn't tell

him nothing that happened I came back

met with the district attorney's office

presented the case to them along with a

warrant I wanted to arrest Melvin just I

felt there's enough evidence to arrest I

think there is today Nolan just got away

with murder they can prove it now the

case is open they can prove it I called

the niece and told her I was coming back

up there and she said that he had had a

stroke because he's in a nursing home

California would have to extradite him

back and pay the cost of his nursing

home then we'll do that I was gonna see

from my own my myself what his condition

was and I was stopped from doing that by

a neurosurgeon who was treating him and

said that he wasn't gonna allow the

police to interview him so at this point

that can be shown that he is in fact

coherent

will he be arrested to district

attorney's office it have the final

say-so and if I had anything to say

about it I would say that they should

issue a warrant for his arrest file

murder charges it show warrant and bring

him back to California to stand trial on

murder schemes we couldn't do which I

wish we would have give me an example of

one of those schemes melvin gus killed

that nurse is sure as I'm sitting here

right now not a doubt in my mind when it

came around the door just make sure we

had just the right enough weight to just

knock him in the head justice needs to

be served shoot him I think that after

talking to all the different kids that

were were subject to Melvin just

mistreatment that I think that would

help them tie him up and torture him

because of the pain and anguish that we

felt and I've talked to every I mean

I've talked to I can't remember all five

six seven kids in this whole thing and

saw what this has done to them and part

of it I think that will may help them

cut his throat

I wish you could die

tyranny of more than poison him with

some rat poison and it's coffee because

he always made us make his coffee and

should be realize are you afraid to tell

me the truth

no I ain't afraid to tell you the truth

if you're afraid to learn the goddamn

truth I'd love to learn the truth now

and let's go back to her car let's go

back to the car [ __ ] now he was

pretty brave calling me a [ __ ]

I just wanted to push him off the

boardwalk and into the Puget Sound but

instead I pushed him back to the car

because there were others who were

already on their way to see him

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you know how that village it you get all

this together and go through these

problems mapping no you're not is no

she's not

we're all understand you know guilty all

happiest point oh happy because I'm here

and everything is you know is peaceful

and you're yelling in my ear he got away

with and that burns me so much that the

truth that ends up coming back and you

get hurt worse because there was no

punishment and each time that I

mentioned it to somebody they said I was

crazy his last attempt was only two

years ago on pamby she told me about it

herself my mom stopped attempting

suicide a few years ago I stopped

dancing

Denise stopped going to AAA and the

girls stopped by to pay somebody a visit

now it's my daddy hi Daddy

hello sweetheart he say he's gonna eat

been doing taken girls around you fast

huh

yeah yeah yeah

dang it I don't believe I was ever

penetrated by him for the simple reason

that when I was 15 and I was engaged I

finally gave my virginity away and I

bled after sex unlike my little sister

who don't ever recall bleeding after

shed that is that what it would have

taken for you to consider you were

molested as for him due to penetrated

you

oh no no no no fumble ism it's all

molestation I kept telling you I was on

my way though yeah yeah you did yes yes

I did

and now I just want to give you a big

old hug and a kiss hi like me now I love

you now

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now I guess all the way

when nobody stopping

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no braces no crutches don't nothin

I have to see you that way babe tried to

see you up and about

says you got a room by yourself I don't

think I would be when is the last time

Melvin just attempted to in the last

year a couple years ago he told me he

was gonna take me out for my birthday

and it ended out that he took me out to

the woods he knew I couldn't run I had

one leg that was fused and one leg that

was in a brace and he told me to keep it

a secret but he did pay me he did pay

yeah he paid me a dollar because it went

in all the way but it did her can't

believe I lower myself so much I put

myself through so much [ __ ] just like in

the flesh life is just not like that

to put back on a shelf to forget my ass

you can only forget so long till

somebody brings it up or bottle breaks

and then you have to complete this [ __ ]

up [ __ ]

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and I want to hurt myself because I

think if I don't have a release then

that just keeps it it feels like this

big bomb inside of me that just wants to

explode

I'm ready to go he just goes on as

though nothing ever happened

Graham and venes say oh that's just

melvin but i'll never let him forget

what he did to my mom or to the rest of

the family so why did you molest the

children i didn't molest two goddamn

kids

if you don't get out that sometimes you

can know it you pretty quick

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I never did get off that [ __ ] subject

but I did keep my promise

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although he somehow managed to escape a

life in prison a few months after our

last conversation Melvin just died

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I want to greet all of you here today

and let you know we appreciate you being

here and we've come to honor the memory

of Melvin just colossians 3:22 on obey

your parents and everything for this

pleases the Lord

it also pleases your parents and then

we'll turn around and please you again

because they'll treat you nice you'll do

about anything for him

Melvin's first wife Faye which is she

could be here any second and present

wife Venise who is here his three

natural daughters June Jerry and Jenice

also his stepdaughters Bobby Denise Pam

B and Anne and some of his grandkids

among them is Ron Clarissa and Frankie

God created man in his own image in the

image of God he created him male and

female he created them Melvin was a

terrific mechanic

he loved his cars he loved to read the

Bible and read his Bible cover-to-cover

several times not Jane so DP how hot

this is mouth and I love him very dearly

he's from my heart he treated me really

bad and he treated me sorrow and he

treated me with respect and he's my man

and I understand that he's gone and I'm

glad because he's a one of a guy I don't

care what you say oh wait anybody else

says but it comes from my heart girl and

this or that I'm sorry yes what's going

on who was it that came up that was

Bobby I'm Jerry I don't know what you

know about him nor anybody else think he

was a very

and ugly person to me because he's a

child molester and a murderer but he was

cool when he built beach buggies and let

us have our fun with the down throw

everybody would never want to sit on his

lap I'm glad I'm actually glad he can't

hurt nobody else yeah thank you Jeff hey

Dad they're all [ __ ] okay give us

some good memories also June the way

they're acting they obviously had too

much that ball I think I can throw

myself okay

my dad was an awesome man it was an

awesome man he had his pelvis that's

everybody sure everybody has their

faults nobody's perfect they weren't

meant to be perfect Jesus died on the

cross for our sins thank you Lord for

Melvin our friend of mechanic we commit

to dust to dust

we pray this memory will always linger

with us we thank you for his memory

today

Jame Betty housewife throw dirt on it

we're just very ladies you'll have to

behave please at least I didn't say hey

I had a glass to get permit no

permission to

come up and see about having sex do

something with him so I can have some

tampons

you don't say that that was part of my

[ __ ] life with him you know you had

different relationship friends I think

what they should have done for my dad

and everybody like is take in case tick

off and soup Butch's forehead cuz it

nothing dick hits I can't believe I do

Doug my dad you crave will someone come

in kind of controlling what's happening

here

June can I have that bottle I think it's

a pretty nice one right now how about of

wish that it stopped raining oh no

because you know what the sun shining

and if you watch right over here there

should be a rainbow coming right up zip

see it I'm telling you look it's right

there I see it you bet you know right

and that's God's promise that the earth

will never be flooded again it's in the

Bible in Jesus name and everybody said a

man a man

you