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America's public enemy number one
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in the United States is drug abuse.
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I've learned in a couple
of letters to the editor
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that playboy is responsible
for everything,
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from Vietnam to drug problems.
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Drugs were rampant at Hefner's mansion.
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Who's gonna bring these drugs to hef?
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He didn't go anywhere,
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and he wasn't gonna go get them himself.
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Ms. Arnstein died of a drug overdose,
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but police officials still aren't sure
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if it was accidental.
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The feds suspected that both
Bobbie Arnstein and my sister,
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Adrienne--
she was a playboy bunny--
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were involved in trafficking drugs for playboy.
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The federal authorities were trying
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to get Bobbie to claim that
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somehow Hefner was involved
in that cocaine smuggling.
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Many thought that she committed suicide
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because she felt pressure
to turn against Hefner.
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Why is that so many
powerful, influential men
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have in their story
the tragic death of a woman
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or, in Hefner's case, women,
and we don't talk about it?
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My name is Hugh Hefner.
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I'm editor-publisher of "playboy" magazine.
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When Hugh Hefner was just 27,
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he fashioned himself and playboy
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as the face of sexual liberation.
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Playboy is one of the most famous brand names
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in the world.
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I would like to be remembered
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as somebody who played some positive part
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in changing the social
sexual values of my time.
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I believe that hef pulled
one over on the whole world.
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The fantasy of playboy that he created
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did not allow for the consent of the women.
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When it came to Hefner's buddies,
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you had to keep those secrets quiet.
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What have you got for free?
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When you get someone that powerful,
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anything could happen.
Anything.
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The people who were really there,
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they're the ones who know the real truth.
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I want to be a voice
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for the women that suffered
the most at his hands.
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All right.
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Down, Bella.
Down.
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Hef and I, we were together
from August of '76 to '81.
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When I first met hef,
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I spent most of my time with him
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and his best friend, Johnny,
out in the game house.
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And their conversation
was about Bobbie Arnstein.
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Before I met him,
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Bobbie Arnstein was hef's
social secretary in Chicago.
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A very big part of his life.
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She knew all his secrets.
I mean, they were very close.
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And I never met her, but I heard the stories.
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The police, they had got ahold of her,
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and she was being forced to testify
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regarding drugs at the mansion,
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and rather than do this,
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she killed herself.
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And I'm going, "wow.
Wow, that poor girl."
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But then there's joni, hef's social secretary,
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who knew her.
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Joni was the one that
really got me questioning it
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because she was really close to Bobbie.
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She was as inside as you could get.
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Joni would say, "she didn't kill herself."
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And I'm thinking,
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"well, what do you mean,
she didn't kill herself?"
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I've wondered about
what really happened to Bobbie
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for years.
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Why was hef never upset
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when he talked about Bobbie
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even though they had been very, very close?
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Did Bobbie run drugs for hef?
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The Bobbie Arnstein case still haunts me.
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I was a detective in
the Chicago police department.
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We were responsible
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for the northeast quadrant of the city,
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and playboy was in the northeast quadrant
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of the city.
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Law enforcement was looking at playboy
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because they were the epitome
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of the deterioration of our culture.
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That was how they looked at it.
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And it was basically the start
of the real war on drugs,
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they used to call it.
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People thought this was the den of evil,
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and they just thought playboy needed
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to be shut down and squashed.
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So in the early '70s,
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cocaine really exploded
in the city of Chicago.
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It was everywhere.
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I heard the rumors that you
could get whatever you wanted
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in the mansion.
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If you wanted marijuana, you could get it.
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If you wanted cocaine, you could get it.
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So somebody had to bring it in there.
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And was it Bobbie?
I don't know.
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The DEA thought it was her.
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She was a target because
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of her association with playboy and Hefner.
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They searched her, and they
found cocaine in her purse.
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They brought her into federal court.
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Everybody thought, ooh, wow.
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DEA's really got a whopper here.
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I mean, they got the--
Hugh Hefner's right-hand gal.
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The federal authorities were trying
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to get Bobbie to claim that
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somehow Hefner was involved
in that cocaine smuggling,
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but I can tell you,
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illegal drugs were not
the major scene there.
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Bobbie was hef's
closest executive assistant.
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I considered her
my closest friend in the world.
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I've spent the majority of my adult life
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working to legalize
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the responsible use of marijuana by adults.
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This was a "playboy" interview
they did of me in 1977.
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If we could get over the symbolism,
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I think everybody agrees
it doesn't really make sense
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to send a marijuana smoker to jail.
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I met Bobbie Arnstein
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the very first time I went to Chicago
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to meet with the playboy foundation
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at the playboy mansion.
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When you were at the mansion,
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it was like you were at some
sort of a Hollywood party.
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And Bobbie Arnstein made it happen.
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She made sure anybody who
needed whatever would have it.
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And we hit it off and became
very close friends for--
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well, for the rest of her life.
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Whenever I would go out to see Hefner,
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I would say with Bobbie in
her apartment in the mansion,
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and she would say, "okay, let's
go down to the pinball room."
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And hef would join us,
and we'd spend several hours
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smoking weed and playing pinball.
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And I thought she was the most
sophisticated and sexy woman
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I had ever met in my life.
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I was a bunny girl,
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a playmate of the year, 1973.
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When I became miss January 1972,
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that was the first time I met Bobbie,
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and we sort of clicked!
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She was not a standard beauty, but stylish.
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When she was getting ready to go for a date,
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she would say,
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"mm, can I borrow your legs tonight, Marilyn?"
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And we'd laugh.
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I think Bobbie had a very special gift
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in the sense that she balanced everything.
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And I didn't realize all the responsibility
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that she had to bear.
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She knew about all his girlfriends.
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She was just naturally discreet
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and knew how to smooth things over.
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And when I was with her in her apartment,
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and hef would occasionally turn up.
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And she immediately switched on,
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and he would invariably end up
laughing and feeling better,
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and he would just leave.
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One of Bobbie's jobs,
not the most important
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but one that I always appreciated,
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was that hef insisted
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that she keep a box full
of nice, hand-rolled joints
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on his bedstand in his private quarters.
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I saw occasionally amphetamines,
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but I never saw cocaine used in the mansion
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other than when Bobbie and I
would occasionally
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snort a line of coke
from a half a gram she had.
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But I will say this:
We were very careful
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to keep it out of hef's view or knowledge
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or anybody else in the mansion.
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I was alerted that if hef
or any of his people
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ever see or hear cocaine,
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you'll never enter this building again.
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And I think that was a real rule.
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I don't think it was just PR.
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But the federal authorities,
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they were fully convinced
that the playboy empire,
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with all its hipness and its relevance
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and its modernity,
they must be snorting cocaine.
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They wanted Hefner,
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DEA and FBI especially.
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They thought, Hefner's running
drugs, and he's the supplier,
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that there's drugs all over the place.
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So they arrested Bobbie Arnstein.
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She was accused of conspiracy
to distribute cocaine.
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When I was a very young lawyer,
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I was asked to work with
a more senior lawyer in my firm
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representing Bobbie Arnstein.
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And, I mean, the government was zealous
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in trying to prosecute these cases.
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They had wiretaps on Bobbie's
phone in the playboy mansion.
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They picked up on these wiretaps
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some occasional discussion of drugs,
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but not drug dealing involving Bobbie,
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just, "can you get me some x, y or z?"
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She had met a new man that she was seeing,
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and he was a drug dealer.
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His whole life, essentially,
was dealing cocaine.
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Bobbie Arnstein was arrested
outside the playboy mansion
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with a small amount of cocaine in her purse.
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Any state in the country during those years,
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if you were busted
with a half pound of cocaine,
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you're gonna spend
10 to 20 years in prison,
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and she realized
she was in a heap of trouble.
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They brought her into federal court.
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They wanted her to turn around and say,
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"I bring the dope to Hugh Hefner."
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This is a commendation from
the state's attorney's office.
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"This letter is sent to you
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to inform you of the excellent work
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"that investigator Dave Reuben has provided.
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"He's been assigned some very
difficult and sensitive cases,
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such as the playboy case."
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I haven't seen this in...A long time.
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I was an investigator
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for the cook county state's attorney's office
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in Chicago in the special prosecutions unit.
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Hefner was on everybody's list at that point
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in the federal agencies.
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The Bobbie Arnstein's case
was already being made,
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and you had a conversation
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with anybody in law enforcement,
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they just thought playboy needed
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to be shut down and squashed.
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I was told that Adrienne pollack
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was a playboy bunny in the playboy club
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that died of a drug overdose in 1973,
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and basically, she was
running drugs on some level.
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Our office decided, "let's reopen
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"the Adrienne pollack case
and take a look at it
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"because there may be more
involving Hugh Hefner, drugs,
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other crimes potentially, conspiracies."
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This was the backdoor way for
the state's attorney's office
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to get involved in the playboy investigation.
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So I went out, and I do remember the family.
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They welcomed us and gave us
kind of the backstory
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of Adrienne pollack's development
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that led to her going to work for playboy.
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Adrienne claudette is her official name,
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Adrienne claudette-pollack.
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However, growing up, we called her Addie.
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My sister was a little bit
of a rebel and adventurous,
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and she was somebody
who walks into the room
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and just lights up.
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I want to show you some things
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that I've collected over the years.
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All of these boxes are her items.
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So here are bunny ears
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that my sister actually wore
working for playboy.
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Different costumes, different colors.
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This was part of her
initial outfit that she had.
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This was her initial shot
that was done in July of 1972.
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Addie was very daring, funny, fearless.
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This is my wedding,
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and this is my sister, Addie,
in the blonde here on the end.
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She was really pretty, and, I mean,
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she had a nice figure and everything.
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She was hired immediately.
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She lived in the playboy mansion
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pretty much from the get-go.
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It was hard.
I think it was really tough.
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She didn't talk much about being a bunny.
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She did have some experiences.
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Men would try to pull off the tail
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or be, you know, aggressive.
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Bunnies come, and bunnies go,
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but there are always 100 girls
on the application list
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waiting for a chance
to enter the playboy world.
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I think there was, like, an excitement
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because there were
a lot of stars that came.
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One morning, she had breakfast
with Warren Beatty.
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But then she also, after a while,
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got tired of living in a dorm
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with other girls who would take her things.
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She wanted to be
her own separate individual,
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and in August of 1973,
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she moved out and got an apartment
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a block and a half away with her boyfriend.
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August 16th, 1973,
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I was sitting on the front porch of our house.
285
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My sister pulls up with her boyfriend,
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and I was really surprised to see them.
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My parents didn't expect it either.
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They were in their pajamas.
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They came inside.
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We sat at the kitchen table,
and we took pictures.
291
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Then, she's like, "well, I have to go."
292
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That was the last time I saw her.
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It was her 23rd birthday.
294
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Three weeks later, I remember sitting outside
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with a friend of mine.
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We saw a police car,
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and then, all of a sudden,
he pulled up to our house.
298
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So I brought him inside, and he said,
299
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"I'm sorry to tell you,
but your daughter is dead."
300
00:15:37,337 --> 00:15:39,637
But he didn't have any specifics.
301
00:15:39,739 --> 00:15:41,673
It's like, well, what happened?
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I was 18, and I cried so much
303
00:15:52,252 --> 00:15:54,552
that my contacts were just filmed up.
304
00:15:54,654 --> 00:15:56,688
I just couldn't--
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I could barely see.
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It's like, how could this be?
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I have an article of clothing
that she passed away in.
308
00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:10,435
I just kept a piece of it.
309
00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:13,604
They said that she died
of a accidental overdose
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from quaaludes.
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I had no idea she was doing
things like uppers or downers
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or anything else.
313
00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:24,983
I was surprised, in a way,
314
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but I also knew her behavior
had changed over the past year
315
00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:32,056
since she was in "playboy."
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00:16:32,158 --> 00:16:35,259
There was more questions than answers.
317
00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:38,363
It was absolutely possible
there were major drugs
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in the mansion.
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There's a memo that's issued
April 1st, 1974,
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from Mary o'Connor.
321
00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:46,738
She was in charge of the bunnies,
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pretty much the house mother.
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00:16:48,308 --> 00:16:50,641
And in that memo, she says,
324
00:16:50,744 --> 00:16:53,211
"make sure there's no illegal
drugs on the premises."
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00:16:53,313 --> 00:16:55,246
They had to anticipate
there was the possibility
326
00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:56,614
of a search warrant.
327
00:16:56,716 --> 00:16:58,716
So they were gonna make sure
if that occurred,
328
00:16:58,818 --> 00:17:00,818
there were no drugs found.
329
00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,022
It also implies that that was a concern
330
00:17:04,124 --> 00:17:06,124
because there were illegal drugs.
331
00:17:09,129 --> 00:17:12,430
This is an internal report from DEA,
332
00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:15,299
a report of investigation memo
333
00:17:15,402 --> 00:17:16,968
about an interview with Allen Crawford,
334
00:17:17,070 --> 00:17:20,705
the former head of security for playboy,
335
00:17:20,807 --> 00:17:22,340
and they have some information
336
00:17:22,442 --> 00:17:25,343
that there were phony
prescriptions, potentially,
337
00:17:25,445 --> 00:17:28,279
that were drawn up
so Hefner could get drugs.
338
00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:31,015
But the bottom line was,
what can you prove?
339
00:17:34,421 --> 00:17:37,121
Hef pretended he wasn't
involved in any hard drug use
340
00:17:37,223 --> 00:17:40,224
at the mansion, but that was just a lie.
341
00:17:40,326 --> 00:17:42,827
Quaaludes, down the line,
were used for sex.
342
00:17:44,364 --> 00:17:45,730
Everything felt good to touch.
343
00:17:45,832 --> 00:17:49,100
Everything felt soft
and soft-focus, and--
344
00:17:49,202 --> 00:17:50,568
and it was lovely.
345
00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:53,137
Usually, you just took a half.
346
00:17:53,239 --> 00:17:56,741
Now, if you took two, you'd pass out.
347
00:17:56,843 --> 00:17:59,610
It was such a seduction,
and the men knew this,
348
00:17:59,712 --> 00:18:03,147
that they could get girls to do
just about anything they wanted
349
00:18:03,249 --> 00:18:04,615
if they gave them a quaalude.
350
00:18:08,555 --> 00:18:12,056
I worked for Hefner
at the playboy mansion in la
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00:18:12,158 --> 00:18:18,362
from late 1977 to mid-1989.
352
00:18:19,866 --> 00:18:21,299
Quaaludes were--
353
00:18:21,401 --> 00:18:22,867
we called them
the leg-spreaders, you know?
354
00:18:22,969 --> 00:18:25,837
I mean, and I don't know
that I want to get that crude,
355
00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:29,173
but that is what the whole
point of them was, you know?
356
00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:32,310
They were a necessary evil,
if you will, to the partying.
357
00:18:32,412 --> 00:18:35,780
We would have prescriptions
in some of our names.
358
00:18:35,882 --> 00:18:38,583
There were prescriptions in Sondra's name,
359
00:18:38,685 --> 00:18:42,720
and Hef's name, and my name.
360
00:18:42,822 --> 00:18:45,022
There was a prescription in Mary's name.
361
00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:47,825
We kept a desk calendar
that just would say, you know,
362
00:18:47,927 --> 00:18:51,329
"Lisa's q," or "hef's q," or Sondra's q."
363
00:18:51,431 --> 00:18:54,899
That enabled certainly four
364
00:18:55,001 --> 00:18:57,135
and sometimes
five different prescriptions
365
00:18:57,237 --> 00:19:02,540
for the same medication
to feed the machine.
366
00:19:04,844 --> 00:19:08,446
To hef's bedroom,
to his personal drawer.
367
00:19:08,548 --> 00:19:11,015
He had a drawer that
none of us had access to.
368
00:19:11,117 --> 00:19:13,651
We gave them directly to hef.
Then, there were--
369
00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:15,853
there was the dexedrine,
the speed that he took
370
00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:17,622
that was not in everyone else's names.
371
00:19:17,724 --> 00:19:20,358
It was probably only in mine
and Mary's and Hef's.
372
00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:22,160
Dexedrine was a speed.
373
00:19:22,262 --> 00:19:24,762
It was a pretty popular
diet pill back in the day,
374
00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:29,767
and amphetamine,
and I think that it was fuel.
375
00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:31,102
When Hef would take dexedrine,
376
00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:33,604
he always took a little every day.
377
00:19:33,706 --> 00:19:35,406
He couldn't swallow a pill,
so he chewed it.
378
00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:37,141
He would always, like,
break off a little piece and--
379
00:19:37,243 --> 00:19:38,476
then wrap it into tissue
380
00:19:38,578 --> 00:19:40,244
and stick it in the top pocket
of his pajamas.
381
00:19:40,346 --> 00:19:42,580
Cocaine was a big deal.
382
00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:46,751
I can remember at a couple
of the larger parties,
383
00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:50,621
there was a downstairs powder
room off of the great hall
384
00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:56,928
that, underneath
the ornate toilet paper holder,
385
00:19:57,030 --> 00:19:58,696
you would lift that up,
and there was a pile of cocaine
386
00:19:58,798 --> 00:20:01,632
underneath there.
387
00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:06,270
I remember asking once,
"where is he getting this?"
388
00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:09,173
You know, 'cause
he doesn't leave the property.
389
00:20:09,275 --> 00:20:10,808
Where is this coming from?
390
00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:15,980
The first time
I did cocaine came
391
00:20:16,082 --> 00:20:18,549
when we did the schlong show
for his birthday,
392
00:20:18,651 --> 00:20:19,850
and I had to sing.
393
00:20:32,398 --> 00:20:35,266
But I was nervous because
nobody had heard me sing.
394
00:20:35,368 --> 00:20:38,436
So someone said,
"what you need is a bump."
395
00:20:38,538 --> 00:20:39,704
And I said,
"what's a bump?"
396
00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:42,173
And somebody is going,
"she doesn't know."
397
00:20:42,275 --> 00:20:45,209
They go, "some cocaine!"
And I said, "cocaine?"
398
00:20:45,311 --> 00:20:47,445
Cocaine?
399
00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:51,515
And in the beginning,
it was fun.
400
00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:56,053
There was drugs everywhere.
401
00:20:56,155 --> 00:20:58,289
John Dante
was hef's best friend,
402
00:20:58,391 --> 00:21:00,891
and Dante's little dog,
Louis,
403
00:21:00,994 --> 00:21:04,161
who was a little tiny poodle,
got hooked on cocaine.
404
00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:07,031
And the dog would smell it
from across the room,
405
00:21:07,133 --> 00:21:10,868
and a very famous person walked
in the game house one night.
406
00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:14,772
And that little dog jumped
off the couch and was--
407
00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:18,009
he was like superdog,
flew to that person,
408
00:21:18,111 --> 00:21:20,878
up that person's arm
and was licking the nose.
409
00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:23,347
And she's like,
"oh, he just loves me!"
410
00:21:23,449 --> 00:21:26,584
And we're all going,
"mm-hmm. Yeah, sure."
411
00:21:26,686 --> 00:21:29,687
We knew
why that dog was on her,
412
00:21:29,789 --> 00:21:31,922
and he had to lock that dog up
when people were around
413
00:21:32,025 --> 00:21:35,026
because it was addicted
to the cocaine, and--
414
00:21:35,128 --> 00:21:37,795
people you wouldn't even think
were doing it were doing it.
415
00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:39,930
So who's gonna bring
these drugs to him?
416
00:21:40,033 --> 00:21:41,132
He didn't go anywhere,
417
00:21:41,234 --> 00:21:42,700
and he wasn't gonna go
get them himself.
418
00:21:44,337 --> 00:21:47,271
At the time in la,
when I was there,
419
00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:49,373
there were bowls
of quaaludes.
420
00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:53,077
There were huge vials
of cocaine.
421
00:21:53,179 --> 00:21:57,114
And then, when I transferred
to the Chicago playboy club,
422
00:21:57,216 --> 00:21:59,050
there were a lot of bunnies
that were still there
423
00:21:59,152 --> 00:22:02,920
that knew Adrienne pollack,
and they said,
424
00:22:03,022 --> 00:22:05,556
"Adrienne and Bobbie Arnstein
425
00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,426
supplied drugs
for the Chicago mansion
426
00:22:08,528 --> 00:22:11,462
for parties
for Hefner and his vips."
427
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,199
The feds suspected
428
00:22:15,301 --> 00:22:17,301
that both Bobbie Arnstein
and my sister, Adrienne,
429
00:22:17,403 --> 00:22:21,505
were involved in
trafficking drugs for playboy.
430
00:22:21,607 --> 00:22:24,408
State government
wanted to see
431
00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:27,144
what they could get
on Hefner and playboy.
432
00:22:30,483 --> 00:22:31,882
Hefner was smart.
433
00:22:31,984 --> 00:22:34,418
Is somebody gonna
come forward? No.
434
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,655
Everybody wanted
to be hef's favorite.
435
00:22:37,757 --> 00:22:42,526
Everybody wanted to be
rising up in the organization.
436
00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:44,095
I think Adrienne pollack,
437
00:22:44,197 --> 00:22:46,864
maybe she did a little bit
of involvement
438
00:22:46,966 --> 00:22:50,901
with running the drugs
or being a mule on some level.
439
00:22:51,003 --> 00:22:52,303
That's very possible.
440
00:22:52,405 --> 00:22:54,138
I mean, we'd be naive
not to think that.
441
00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:02,980
After my sister died,
442
00:23:03,082 --> 00:23:05,249
when my mom and dad and I
were allowed
443
00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:08,219
to get her things
in her apartment,
444
00:23:08,321 --> 00:23:11,422
she had this dark wig.
445
00:23:11,524 --> 00:23:13,991
So we asked her boyfriend
what this was about,
446
00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:16,594
and he said, "this was
one of her disguises."
447
00:23:16,696 --> 00:23:20,798
She would wear this wig
when she was trafficking.
448
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:25,469
Addie called me one time,
and she was in Florida.
449
00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:30,274
Addie told me there was a drug
cartel member there with her,
450
00:23:30,376 --> 00:23:33,177
and I believe that was
her date for the evening.
451
00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:36,947
I said,
"aren't you afraid?"
452
00:23:37,049 --> 00:23:40,017
She said, "don't worry.
There's a bunch of us here."
453
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,587
They were
the playboy bunnies.
454
00:23:43,689 --> 00:23:45,689
I think there were
somewhere around, like,
455
00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:48,259
seven, eight girls
that went.
456
00:23:53,866 --> 00:23:56,000
I know that she was
on the bunny plane.
457
00:23:56,102 --> 00:24:01,205
I know that she went to
Las Vegas, Hollywood, Hawaii,
458
00:24:01,307 --> 00:24:05,543
to montego bay,
Jamaica, Florida,
459
00:24:05,645 --> 00:24:09,914
but it may not have always
been on the bunny plane.
460
00:24:10,016 --> 00:24:12,917
A playboy bunny friend of hers
had given her,
461
00:24:13,019 --> 00:24:16,520
it was
a Leo horoscope picture.
462
00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:19,089
Here it says,
"the Leo personality
463
00:24:19,192 --> 00:24:22,193
are the ideal heads
of large enterprises."
464
00:24:22,295 --> 00:24:23,928
So this head character--
465
00:24:24,030 --> 00:24:26,330
this head Egyptian character,
pharaoh--
466
00:24:26,432 --> 00:24:29,133
has an a on it
for Adrienne.
467
00:24:29,235 --> 00:24:32,336
It shows her as the head,
and then, it shows meth,
468
00:24:32,438 --> 00:24:36,841
heroin, LSD, ludes,
valium, and cocaine.
469
00:24:36,943 --> 00:24:40,911
And I firmly believe that
she was involved quite a bit
470
00:24:41,013 --> 00:24:43,214
with the drug trafficking.
471
00:24:45,184 --> 00:24:46,584
So in 2004,
472
00:24:46,686 --> 00:24:52,223
I decided to contact
Adrienne's boyfriend, Jerry.
473
00:24:52,325 --> 00:24:54,492
This is his recollection
of what happened
474
00:24:54,594 --> 00:24:57,561
on the day
of September 5th, 1973,
475
00:24:57,663 --> 00:24:59,230
the day before her death.
476
00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:02,867
She had a meeting
at the playboy mansion.
477
00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:05,970
The meeting involved Bobbie
Arnstein and two other guys
478
00:25:06,072 --> 00:25:08,038
that were later arrested
with Bobbie Arnstein
479
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:10,040
for cocaine possession.
480
00:25:10,142 --> 00:25:12,977
Jerry said that
there was the connection
481
00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:15,446
between
Addie's drug trafficking
482
00:25:15,548 --> 00:25:17,648
and playboy and Bobbie,
483
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:21,485
and she wanted
to get out of it.
484
00:25:21,587 --> 00:25:23,721
If Jerry pingatore had said
485
00:25:23,823 --> 00:25:26,957
that there was a connection
between the two,
486
00:25:27,059 --> 00:25:28,425
there could have been
some truth to that,
487
00:25:28,528 --> 00:25:31,495
but we did not talk
to Jerry pingatore
488
00:25:31,597 --> 00:25:32,997
because he was lawyered up.
489
00:25:33,099 --> 00:25:36,367
Adrienne was possibly
a low-level mule,
490
00:25:36,469 --> 00:25:40,037
but we were stonewalled
early on.
491
00:25:40,139 --> 00:25:41,705
Hefner was smart.
492
00:25:41,807 --> 00:25:43,407
If there was drug activity,
493
00:25:43,509 --> 00:25:45,075
Hefner could have
very easily said,
494
00:25:45,177 --> 00:25:47,144
"I don't want to know about
it. Do what you got to do."
495
00:25:47,246 --> 00:25:49,914
We could not prove
that the mansions
496
00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:52,383
had massive amounts of drugs
or drug activity
497
00:25:52,485 --> 00:25:54,285
that we could
make a case out of.
498
00:25:54,387 --> 00:26:00,424
And then, Bobbie Arnstein
was indicted,
499
00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:04,795
tried for cocaine possession
and distribution charges.
500
00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:09,033
In the course
of the trial,
501
00:26:09,135 --> 00:26:12,069
there was a lot of wiretap
evidence in the case.
502
00:26:12,171 --> 00:26:15,139
They recorded phone calls.
503
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:17,908
And they were played
for the jury.
504
00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:19,977
Bobbie did not
take the stand
505
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:21,745
because if she would have
taken the stand,
506
00:26:21,847 --> 00:26:23,213
they could have asked her
a lot of questions
507
00:26:23,316 --> 00:26:24,949
about hef and playboy
508
00:26:25,051 --> 00:26:27,017
that she would not have
wanted to answer, probably.
509
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,686
In the playboy world,
510
00:26:28,788 --> 00:26:32,590
they always prided themselves
on how private it was.
511
00:26:34,961 --> 00:26:36,827
Hugh Hefner's
social secretary,
512
00:26:36,929 --> 00:26:38,829
32-year-old
Bobbie Arnstein,
513
00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:40,931
and two men
were found guilty today
514
00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:43,567
of conspiracy
to distribute cocaine.
515
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:45,936
After the verdict was returned
by the federal court,
516
00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:48,038
sentencing was set
for November 20th,
517
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:50,174
and Arnstein left
the federal courts building
518
00:26:50,276 --> 00:26:53,110
accompanied by her attorney,
Tom Sullivan.
519
00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:57,281
Sullivan advised her to say
nothing to waiting reporters.
520
00:26:57,383 --> 00:26:58,616
...any statements.
521
00:26:58,718 --> 00:27:00,517
I don't think you ought
to give any statement at all.
522
00:27:00,620 --> 00:27:04,054
- Well, I think it's absurd.
- Do not give any statement.
523
00:27:04,156 --> 00:27:06,824
My lawyer suggests that
I not give any statements.
524
00:27:06,926 --> 00:27:09,360
It's not my personal opinion.
525
00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:11,128
You're welcome. Sorry.
526
00:27:11,230 --> 00:27:12,396
She was convicted
527
00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:15,232
of conspiracy
to distribute cocaine.
528
00:27:15,334 --> 00:27:19,570
She was sentenced provisionally
with a 15-year sentence.
529
00:27:19,672 --> 00:27:21,405
Then, within a few weeks,
530
00:27:21,507 --> 00:27:25,909
the government called
Bobbie in to speak with them.
531
00:27:26,012 --> 00:27:29,613
I remember being in
a large room crowded with men,
532
00:27:29,715 --> 00:27:32,082
and Bobbie and I were there.
533
00:27:32,184 --> 00:27:36,053
And the government told her
that they had information
534
00:27:36,155 --> 00:27:38,989
that there was a contract
out on her life
535
00:27:39,091 --> 00:27:43,527
and that she needed to be
very careful of friend and foe.
536
00:27:45,131 --> 00:27:46,864
So I don't think
for either of us,
537
00:27:46,966 --> 00:27:49,266
there was any question
about how we were supposed
538
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:53,370
to interpret
that odd message.
539
00:27:55,741 --> 00:27:58,876
The only person that
it made any sense would be
540
00:27:58,978 --> 00:28:02,579
to assume that Hugh Hefner was
willing to kill Bobbie Arnstein
541
00:28:02,682 --> 00:28:06,917
to keep the cocaine scandal out
of his life and playboy's life,
542
00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:09,319
and that simply
isn't believable for any of us
543
00:28:09,422 --> 00:28:10,821
who knew the two of them.
544
00:28:10,923 --> 00:28:12,256
What I'm describing to you
545
00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:15,826
is what was transparently
obvious to all of us,
546
00:28:15,928 --> 00:28:18,095
Bobbie included,
her attorneys and ourselves,
547
00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:23,467
as a transparent and incredible
pressure on Bobbie...
548
00:28:26,439 --> 00:28:30,674
To establish
549
00:28:30,776 --> 00:28:32,443
and accomplish exactly what
we've been talking about here,
550
00:28:32,545 --> 00:28:35,379
to make her strike out at us.
551
00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:40,050
Bobbie had made it fairly
clear to all her friends
552
00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:42,119
that she'd do
whatever she needed to do
553
00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:43,787
not to go to prison,
but she wasn't gonna
554
00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:46,690
flip on hef or anybody
in the playboy empire.
555
00:28:50,496 --> 00:28:53,497
So she took an overdose
of pills,
556
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,265
I think 1:00 or 2:00
in the morning,
557
00:28:55,367 --> 00:28:59,103
and took a taxi
over to the Maryland hotel
558
00:28:59,205 --> 00:29:03,040
and got a room by herself,
559
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:08,312
wrote her note out on
the hotel stationery by hand,
560
00:29:08,414 --> 00:29:10,581
took her pills,
and went to sleep.
561
00:29:12,384 --> 00:29:14,485
Bobbie Arnstein had lived
for several years
562
00:29:14,587 --> 00:29:17,054
in Hugh Hefner's
luxurious Chicago mansion,
563
00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:19,189
but the 34-year-old
executive secretary
564
00:29:19,291 --> 00:29:21,892
checked into a nearby
night-club district hotel
565
00:29:21,994 --> 00:29:23,994
before apparently
taking her own life
566
00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:25,763
with an overdose of drugs.
567
00:29:30,369 --> 00:29:31,535
It was right
in the middle of everything,
568
00:29:31,637 --> 00:29:33,537
so everything blows up.
569
00:29:38,144 --> 00:29:40,911
Bobbie Arnstein
had been subpoenaed
570
00:29:41,013 --> 00:29:44,381
by the local grand jury
571
00:29:44,483 --> 00:29:46,817
in conjunction
with the Adrienne pollack case
572
00:29:46,919 --> 00:29:49,219
just prior to her suicide.
573
00:29:50,956 --> 00:29:57,094
So all that evidence
that she may have had
574
00:29:57,196 --> 00:29:59,096
went with her.
575
00:29:59,198 --> 00:30:00,998
She apparently died
of a suicide,
576
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,834
but we don't believe
it was a suicide.
577
00:30:07,006 --> 00:30:08,472
It was my responsibility
to determine what happened
578
00:30:08,574 --> 00:30:09,940
to Roberta Arnstein.
579
00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:12,009
So I treated it as a murder.
580
00:30:12,111 --> 00:30:17,014
I had the crime laboratory take
the door off the hotel room,
581
00:30:17,116 --> 00:30:19,316
and I had it sent
to the crime laboratory
582
00:30:19,418 --> 00:30:21,885
to have the tool Mark section
check the locks
583
00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:24,354
to make sure
they hadn't been picked.
584
00:30:24,456 --> 00:30:25,823
I even went up on the roof,
585
00:30:25,925 --> 00:30:28,158
directly above the window
of that room,
586
00:30:28,260 --> 00:30:31,528
to make sure there were
no grappling hook marks
587
00:30:31,630 --> 00:30:33,697
on the roof.
588
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:38,368
I mean, I covered every single
possible contingency.
589
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:41,171
We had handwriting analysis
done on the note.
590
00:30:41,273 --> 00:30:42,606
It was her handwriting.
591
00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:44,374
There was no violence,
592
00:30:44,476 --> 00:30:47,144
so there was no blood,
no signs of restraint.
593
00:30:47,246 --> 00:30:49,913
You know, she hadn't been
bound or anything like that.
594
00:30:50,015 --> 00:30:51,315
No bruising.
595
00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:53,917
Nothing had been disturbed.
596
00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:55,786
It was a suicide.
597
00:30:57,723 --> 00:31:00,490
Roberta Arnstein
was charged federally,
598
00:31:00,593 --> 00:31:02,793
tried in a federal courtroom
in Chicago,
599
00:31:02,895 --> 00:31:05,062
and sentenced
to 15 years in prison.
600
00:31:05,164 --> 00:31:06,830
Even if she hadn't
committed suicide,
601
00:31:06,932 --> 00:31:08,932
she'd have been ruined by this.
602
00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:12,102
I mean, they were
gonna put her in prison.
603
00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:15,105
They fully intended
to send her away.
604
00:31:15,207 --> 00:31:20,043
Narcotics agents frequently
use our severe drug laws
605
00:31:20,145 --> 00:31:22,012
in an arbitrary
and capricious manner
606
00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:24,581
to elicit the desired testimony
for a trial.
607
00:31:26,452 --> 00:31:28,385
Faced finally
608
00:31:28,487 --> 00:31:32,022
with a conditional sentence
of 15 years,
609
00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:34,424
the pressure
of a lengthy appeal
610
00:31:34,526 --> 00:31:35,726
and increasing harassment
611
00:31:35,828 --> 00:31:38,328
from government prosecutors
and their agents...
612
00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:44,334
An already
emotionally troubled woman
613
00:31:44,436 --> 00:31:48,839
was pushed beyond endurance,
and she killed herself.
614
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,043
The end was very scary.
615
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,580
And you could see
how heartbroken Hefner was
616
00:31:56,682 --> 00:31:58,181
when he was a pallbearer.
617
00:32:04,790 --> 00:32:10,060
I think her struggle was like
it is for everybody: Survival.
618
00:32:10,162 --> 00:32:14,231
And she just couldn't cope,
and she chose not to.
619
00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:17,234
Bobbie was my soul mate.
620
00:32:17,336 --> 00:32:19,736
She was incredibly close.
621
00:32:19,838 --> 00:32:23,907
And I should have been able
to help her, but I wasn't,
622
00:32:24,009 --> 00:32:26,510
so I felt incredibly guilty.
623
00:32:26,612 --> 00:32:28,545
It still makes me cry.
624
00:32:38,223 --> 00:32:42,960
She never felt totally happy
or satisfied.
625
00:32:43,062 --> 00:32:45,862
There was always a sad side
to her.
626
00:32:45,965 --> 00:32:48,498
She was wielding
the power she wanted,
627
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,702
but she didn't have
all the status she wanted
628
00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:54,304
or all the pay.
629
00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:56,206
Bobbie and I
talked about
630
00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:59,443
the difficulties women had
in getting ahead.
631
00:32:59,545 --> 00:33:02,045
And she was surrounded
by male executives,
632
00:33:02,147 --> 00:33:04,481
and she was not an executive.
633
00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:06,416
She was an executive secretary.
634
00:33:07,786 --> 00:33:09,586
In everything
that I saw her do,
635
00:33:09,688 --> 00:33:11,154
she was a support person.
636
00:33:11,256 --> 00:33:15,459
I definitely see her
as probably having difficulty
637
00:33:15,561 --> 00:33:19,162
reaching for a position that
had power in its own right.
638
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
There was an article
in the "Chicago reader"
639
00:33:23,302 --> 00:33:26,603
called "the life and death
of Bobbie Arnstein."
640
00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:30,273
"She wanted a title that would
define her 24-hour-a-day duties
641
00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:31,942
"more accurately
than the words,
642
00:33:32,044 --> 00:33:35,212
"quote, 'executive secretary,'
end quote, did,
643
00:33:35,314 --> 00:33:36,613
"but after more
than a decade
644
00:33:36,715 --> 00:33:39,850
"of living without
breathing space of her boss,
645
00:33:39,952 --> 00:33:42,953
"Bobbie Arnstein wasn't able
to come right out and tell him.
646
00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:45,288
"She required a monetary pat
on the head,
647
00:33:45,391 --> 00:33:48,725
"a paper reassurance
that he needed her.
648
00:33:48,827 --> 00:33:50,327
She wasn't getting either."
649
00:33:52,031 --> 00:33:54,364
Bobbie was a feminist.
650
00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:56,466
She wanted to be respected
for her mind
651
00:33:56,568 --> 00:33:59,536
and for her achievements
and for her judgment.
652
00:33:59,638 --> 00:34:02,606
On the other hand,
she put herself into a world
653
00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:05,909
where every woman
was a sex object.
654
00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:10,981
I think it was the conflict at
the center of Bobbie's soul.
655
00:34:11,083 --> 00:34:13,617
Bobbie clearly understood
656
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,853
that this world
that she lived and thrived in,
657
00:34:16,955 --> 00:34:20,424
as glamorous as it was,
and it was very glamorous,
658
00:34:20,526 --> 00:34:24,094
it was also based
on exploiting other women.
659
00:34:24,196 --> 00:34:26,196
Must have caused some guilt.
660
00:34:31,804 --> 00:34:34,137
When they found out that
Roberta Arnstein was dead,
661
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,406
the U.S. attorney knew that
their whole playboy case
662
00:34:36,508 --> 00:34:37,841
had gone right out the window.
663
00:34:37,943 --> 00:34:40,077
It was done.
There was no more playboy case.
664
00:34:42,181 --> 00:34:44,314
Our investigation
was officially closed
665
00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:46,249
in spring of '75.
666
00:34:46,351 --> 00:34:49,286
Not that long after
the Bobbie Arnstein death,
667
00:34:49,388 --> 00:34:52,722
but we got in too late.
668
00:34:52,825 --> 00:34:54,458
Key people were lawyered up.
669
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,626
The leads were dried up.
670
00:34:56,728 --> 00:34:59,329
Hefner was idolized
by these people.
671
00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:01,431
They weren't gonna
snitch him off.
672
00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:03,033
And that was the end of it.
673
00:35:05,404 --> 00:35:08,672
These are letters
my mom wrote.
674
00:35:08,774 --> 00:35:11,908
She wrote
to all the news stations,
675
00:35:12,010 --> 00:35:15,812
to all the politicians
that she knew.
676
00:35:17,549 --> 00:35:20,517
And all she was doing
was searching for somebody
677
00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:24,054
to help find
what really happened.
678
00:35:24,156 --> 00:35:26,990
We still never really
got any answers.
679
00:35:27,092 --> 00:35:30,026
Somebody knows something.
Tell us the truth.
680
00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:35,899
When I was his girlfriend,
I was afraid to speak up.
681
00:35:36,001 --> 00:35:40,670
I've never told anybody
any of this before.
682
00:35:40,772 --> 00:35:43,406
I was too ashamed,
683
00:35:43,509 --> 00:35:47,477
for a lot of reasons,
but I was a drug mule for hef.
684
00:35:55,721 --> 00:35:58,522
- Hef used cocaine.
- He used more than that.
685
00:35:58,624 --> 00:36:01,091
He had a drawer full of drugs.
686
00:36:01,193 --> 00:36:03,360
I discovered it when
he started giving me the key
687
00:36:03,462 --> 00:36:04,494
to that drawer.
688
00:36:07,166 --> 00:36:12,369
The first time that hef sent me
"as a mule"
689
00:36:12,471 --> 00:36:15,372
to get the drugs,
690
00:36:15,474 --> 00:36:17,073
there were two brothers
that came up to the house.
691
00:36:19,077 --> 00:36:23,046
One of the brothers
sold cocaine,
692
00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:25,482
so hef sent me
to his house.
693
00:36:25,584 --> 00:36:28,218
He said, "here's the money.
Get the stuff."
694
00:36:29,922 --> 00:36:32,455
It was so easy for him.
695
00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:33,423
That became the norm.
696
00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:35,659
I picked up the stuff,
697
00:36:35,761 --> 00:36:37,294
and I brought it back to him,
handed it to him.
698
00:36:37,396 --> 00:36:40,997
He locked it up
under lock and key.
699
00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:43,066
Hef used cocaine.
700
00:36:43,168 --> 00:36:46,636
Soon after, we were doing it
on a regular basis together.
701
00:36:49,141 --> 00:36:52,475
How many times
did I pick up drugs for hef?
702
00:36:52,578 --> 00:36:54,978
I don't know, countless.
Countless times.
703
00:36:56,748 --> 00:36:59,249
- Oh, yeah.
- I'd say once a week.
704
00:37:02,087 --> 00:37:05,422
Everybody did their own job.
705
00:37:05,524 --> 00:37:10,093
We all had to do
exactly what he wanted,
706
00:37:10,195 --> 00:37:12,329
and we all did it
like little puppets.
707
00:37:12,431 --> 00:37:14,264
If he gave you a job,
you were--
708
00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:16,266
it was almost an honor.
709
00:37:16,368 --> 00:37:18,969
And here I am running drugs
for him, and that's an honor.
710
00:37:19,071 --> 00:37:23,540
Yeah, okay, it's crazy,
but it made me feel like
711
00:37:23,642 --> 00:37:25,308
I was important to him.
712
00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:26,509
When you think about it,
713
00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:30,780
here's a man
30 years older than me,
714
00:37:30,882 --> 00:37:36,086
and he's sending a young girl
for illegal substances.
715
00:37:37,656 --> 00:37:39,489
It was nothing to him.
"Go get it."
716
00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:41,424
It was like sending me out
for a quart of milk.
717
00:37:41,526 --> 00:37:44,327
If I got caught,
my life would be over.
718
00:37:47,232 --> 00:37:50,467
And do you think he would
have said, "oh, it's my fault"?
719
00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:52,902
No, it would have been me,
it would have been my problem.
720
00:37:53,005 --> 00:37:57,407
And luckily, I had angels
watching over me,
721
00:37:57,509 --> 00:37:59,042
and I didn't get caught.
722
00:38:01,713 --> 00:38:05,949
The people that got caught,
they suffered for it.
723
00:38:06,051 --> 00:38:07,317
I do believe
that he knew
724
00:38:07,419 --> 00:38:09,219
Bobbie was involved
with the drugs.
725
00:38:09,321 --> 00:38:11,354
I believe that Hugh Hefner
was the reason
726
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:13,256
she was involved
in the drugs.
727
00:38:13,358 --> 00:38:15,825
Would Bobbie
have gotten involved
728
00:38:15,927 --> 00:38:21,164
if not for that whisper
in the ear from him?
729
00:38:22,768 --> 00:38:26,936
Bobbie was going to be forced
to testify against him.
730
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,240
I know that because
he told me that.
731
00:38:30,342 --> 00:38:32,976
He said,
"she died because
732
00:38:33,078 --> 00:38:37,180
she didn't want to have
to testify against me."
733
00:38:37,282 --> 00:38:40,884
So with Bobbie, knowing that
he was that close to her,
734
00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:42,352
it wouldn't have taken much
735
00:38:42,454 --> 00:38:46,056
for him to get her to do
the drug running for him.
736
00:38:48,593 --> 00:38:50,627
If sondra Theodore
had come forth
737
00:38:50,729 --> 00:38:57,033
with that type of testimony
in 1973 or 1974, 1975,
738
00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:59,803
it would have changed the whole
direction of the investigation.
739
00:38:59,905 --> 00:39:01,871
She would have been sworn in
740
00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:05,475
to either the grand jury
or given a sworn statement,
741
00:39:05,577 --> 00:39:07,577
and that would have left
open the possibility
742
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:11,448
of potential indictment
of Hefner, even.
743
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:13,983
And people would have been
looking at it a lot harder
744
00:39:14,086 --> 00:39:16,386
because then there would
have been a viable witness
745
00:39:16,488 --> 00:39:20,490
to that activity, which we
didn't have at that time.
746
00:39:20,592 --> 00:39:23,860
I have been very successful
in arranging a system
747
00:39:23,962 --> 00:39:27,263
whereby I am able to do
what I want to do
748
00:39:27,366 --> 00:39:30,333
when I want to do it
without outside interference.
749
00:39:33,672 --> 00:39:36,473
I am very, very selfish.
I am very self-oriented,
750
00:39:36,575 --> 00:39:38,274
and I think that
everybody should be.
751
00:39:38,377 --> 00:39:41,511
Intelligent self-interest
is for the good of everyone.
752
00:39:41,613 --> 00:39:43,413
The person who spends
all of their time
753
00:39:43,515 --> 00:39:46,216
thinking about others
accomplishes almost nothing.
754
00:39:46,318 --> 00:39:48,451
It was wrong
755
00:39:48,553 --> 00:39:51,988
to take a young girl, so young,
756
00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:56,993
and have her do
that kind of thing for him.
757
00:39:57,095 --> 00:40:01,965
To put a young girl in that
position was so dangerous.
758
00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:06,703
I--i didn't allow myself
to know
759
00:40:06,805 --> 00:40:10,073
that that was abusive
760
00:40:10,175 --> 00:40:11,708
because I was told
it was in love,
761
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:13,777
in the name of love.
762
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:23,153
And if hef was alive,
he would be in jail.
763
00:40:23,255 --> 00:40:25,422
And wherever he is,
764
00:40:25,524 --> 00:40:28,458
and I don't think
it's a good place,
765
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,529
I know he knows
that I told the truth,
766
00:40:32,631 --> 00:40:34,431
and he's not happy about it.
767
00:40:37,002 --> 00:40:41,438
He's finally been called out.
768
00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:42,872
Finally.
769
00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:18,741
Let's celebrate
our sexuality.
770
00:41:18,844 --> 00:41:21,344
It is fun
when you first have sex, right?
771
00:41:21,446 --> 00:41:23,413
But there's a line
that's crossed.
772
00:41:23,515 --> 00:41:25,315
I felt so violated.
773
00:41:25,417 --> 00:41:27,617
She said, "you cannot believe
774
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,853
what went on in that bedroom."
775
00:41:29,955 --> 00:41:31,488
It was cult-like.
776
00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:33,089
The women had been groomed.
777
00:41:33,191 --> 00:41:34,390
A kid who has a sweet tooth
778
00:41:34,493 --> 00:41:35,892
who is thrust
into a candy store
779
00:41:35,994 --> 00:41:38,595
starts, after a little while,
780
00:41:38,697 --> 00:41:41,164
thinking about other things
besides candy.
781
00:41:41,266 --> 00:41:43,433
- Nipple rings.
Sex trapezes.
782
00:41:43,535 --> 00:41:44,734
Double dildos.
783
00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:47,036
Linda lovelace was drunk,
784
00:41:47,138 --> 00:41:49,405
and drugged,
and out of nowhere,
785
00:41:49,508 --> 00:41:50,573
German Shepherd shows up.
786
00:41:50,675 --> 00:41:53,843
This is the dark underbelly
of playboy.
787
00:41:53,945 --> 00:41:57,714
I watched a slow descent
into... madness.
788
00:41:57,816 --> 00:41:59,449
You wanna talk
about depravity?
789
00:41:59,551 --> 00:42:00,917
This is despicable.
61524
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