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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:11,811 Well, thank you for having me. 2 00:00:11,811 --> 00:00:15,482 I had the technological and economic international affairs 3 00:00:15,815 --> 00:00:18,651 area for the government of El Salvador. 4 00:00:18,651 --> 00:00:22,355 I worked specifically in the Trade and Commerce Secretariat. 5 00:00:22,722 --> 00:00:27,894 And basically that means that I had to identify investment opportunities 6 00:00:28,261 --> 00:00:33,033 as they relate to Bitcoin or to any crypto or blockchain project. 7 00:00:33,333 --> 00:00:36,870 And I've been working with a lot of the companies that have come into El Salvador 8 00:00:37,070 --> 00:00:40,473 ever since the law took effect 9 00:00:45,812 --> 00:00:50,817 A lot of people had told us that we should have readapt to 10 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:53,820 El Colon, which used to be our currency 11 00:00:54,220 --> 00:00:57,624 up until 2001 instead of the US dollar. 12 00:00:57,757 --> 00:01:00,560 People were using colonias, however, 13 00:01:00,927 --> 00:01:03,363 that would have been going into the past. 14 00:01:03,596 --> 00:01:05,365 We wanted to go into the future. 15 00:01:05,365 --> 00:01:07,500 And the future mean crypto. 16 00:01:07,801 --> 00:01:10,103 The future means cryptocurrencies. 17 00:01:10,537 --> 00:01:11,871 Especially Bitcoin. 18 00:01:11,871 --> 00:01:15,575 And it was a no brainer, I think, for the President to think that 19 00:01:15,942 --> 00:01:19,979 with the adoption of Bitcoin, he could have done many things 20 00:01:19,979 --> 00:01:23,850 including the bonds, the volcano bonds that he's working on 21 00:01:24,851 --> 00:01:27,087 in so many other things, 22 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:30,990 allowing people who are unbanked that don't have a bank account 23 00:01:31,224 --> 00:01:35,995 that basically that translates into about 70% of Salvadorians, 24 00:01:36,963 --> 00:01:40,433 allowing them to have access to digital money 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:46,106 to not only do transactions with Bitcoin, but also to save and to invest. 26 00:01:46,372 --> 00:01:48,942 And I think that's a game changer for any country 27 00:01:55,882 --> 00:01:59,219 Well, in fact since 2001, El Salvador 28 00:01:59,219 --> 00:02:02,255 hasn't been able to print money because we use the US dollar. 29 00:02:02,522 --> 00:02:05,658 So we don't have the power to print money and, 30 00:02:05,859 --> 00:02:10,697 and even if we had the power right now to do it, I think it makes sense to see 31 00:02:10,830 --> 00:02:14,701 what is going on, what is happening around us, what is happening in the world. 32 00:02:14,901 --> 00:02:18,771 The fact that we are suffering from inflation in many countries, 33 00:02:18,771 --> 00:02:22,275 I mean worldwide because countries are just printing money, 34 00:02:22,442 --> 00:02:23,877 you know, lots of money 35 00:02:23,877 --> 00:02:26,779 and they're not really handling the issues that we're going through. 36 00:02:27,013 --> 00:02:31,084 So the idea of printing money, more and more money 37 00:02:31,317 --> 00:02:35,255 is just a traditional way from the banking system. 38 00:02:35,588 --> 00:02:38,992 And he hasn't really fixed anything in years 39 00:02:39,659 --> 00:02:42,962 ever since perhaps the banking system initiated. 40 00:02:43,129 --> 00:02:46,232 So is not we don't see it as a solution. 41 00:02:46,466 --> 00:02:48,434 The solution is not to print more money. 42 00:02:48,434 --> 00:02:50,770 The solution is really to adopt the future 43 00:02:57,911 --> 00:02:59,812 I think like any other 44 00:02:59,812 --> 00:03:02,982 adoption of of anything, education is key. 45 00:03:03,650 --> 00:03:07,620 And I know that we are working really hard in order for the population 46 00:03:07,954 --> 00:03:13,026 to become more educated when it comes to using Bitcoin is not just the government's 47 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:16,029 responsibility to educate the Salvadorian population. 48 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:19,899 We've seen that a lot of the companies that have come to invest 49 00:03:20,633 --> 00:03:25,104 in El Salvador, they are taken to task that 50 00:03:25,271 --> 00:03:30,109 and they're educating different segments of the population, academia as well. 51 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:33,413 They have come out with careers now on crypto 52 00:03:33,646 --> 00:03:37,150 or workshops or 53 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:39,085 specializations, you know. 54 00:03:39,085 --> 00:03:42,989 So it's it's government, private sector in academia, 55 00:03:42,989 --> 00:03:47,160 and everybody's helping, trying to educate as many Salvadorians as possible. 56 00:03:47,493 --> 00:03:48,761 That could be a challenge. 57 00:03:48,761 --> 00:03:51,831 However, we're tackling it 58 00:03:57,303 --> 00:03:57,737 Well, El 59 00:03:57,737 --> 00:04:02,041 Santa, as well as there's another area called Bitcoin City 60 00:04:03,209 --> 00:04:05,111 Bitcoin Citizens of El Salvador, 61 00:04:05,111 --> 00:04:08,648 that's what it's called in that area, started before El Santee. 62 00:04:08,648 --> 00:04:10,383 And people don't know about that. 63 00:04:10,383 --> 00:04:12,285 It's in the state of Cincinnati. 64 00:04:12,285 --> 00:04:17,090 And those two areas are unusual because they have been it 65 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:20,893 their populations have been using Bitcoin for about three years now. 66 00:04:21,227 --> 00:04:24,397 And obviously they are more educated about their cryptocurrency. 67 00:04:24,564 --> 00:04:26,933 They know how to do a transaction. 68 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:29,702 Lightning, you know, they use like the Lightning Network 69 00:04:30,570 --> 00:04:32,372 they're fine, like you said. 70 00:04:32,372 --> 00:04:35,875 However, in the capital city, if you go into a McDonald's, 71 00:04:35,875 --> 00:04:39,846 if you go into Starbucks, if you go into any other store, 72 00:04:39,846 --> 00:04:41,881 or it's a department store, you know, 73 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:46,119 and you want to buy a scarf, you want to buy shoes, you can buy it. 74 00:04:46,119 --> 00:04:48,521 You can buy those items with Bitcoin. 75 00:04:48,721 --> 00:04:51,090 And I think people are are getting the hang of it. 76 00:04:51,090 --> 00:04:53,826 That means that they're getting little by little educated. 77 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:55,628 How do you deal with the volatility? 78 00:04:57,063 --> 00:04:58,598 It is the government's 79 00:04:58,598 --> 00:05:01,501 plan to launch a stable stablecoin 80 00:05:01,768 --> 00:05:04,003 which will alleviate the volatility. 81 00:05:04,504 --> 00:05:07,307 It is. It's how Bitcoin works. 82 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,209 And part of the creation 83 00:05:10,476 --> 00:05:14,480 is, is to let people know that that happens with Bitcoin. 84 00:05:14,781 --> 00:05:17,817 At the same time that right now is I believe it was 38. 85 00:05:17,917 --> 00:05:21,187 Somebody checked last night Tomorrow 86 00:05:21,187 --> 00:05:24,991 it can go up to 40 and then the next say can go up to 60. 87 00:05:25,124 --> 00:05:26,192 So it's not really. 88 00:05:26,192 --> 00:05:26,893 Yes, there is. 89 00:05:26,893 --> 00:05:30,697 There's a high volatility, but at the same time there are perks. 90 00:05:30,697 --> 00:05:35,802 Meaning if people invest, if people save money in Bitcoin, they know that. 91 00:05:35,802 --> 00:05:38,271 I mean they say Bitcoin because bitcoin is money, 92 00:05:38,604 --> 00:05:42,842 then they know that their, their income can increase 93 00:05:42,842 --> 00:05:46,145 is not just going to go down, it's also going to go up. 94 00:05:46,412 --> 00:05:48,381 So it's a matter of education. I think 95 00:05:55,321 --> 00:05:58,124 the president announced that during the 96 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:02,795 celebration at the end of the 97 00:06:03,663 --> 00:06:06,699 the Bitcoin Conference's Bitcoin week that we had in November, 98 00:06:07,033 --> 00:06:07,834 we were at the beach 99 00:06:07,834 --> 00:06:11,671 and he announced a few different things including the volcano bonds. 100 00:06:12,071 --> 00:06:14,173 And you know that that 101 00:06:15,007 --> 00:06:19,145 our teams are working on the civil coin as well as the volcano bonds. 102 00:06:19,145 --> 00:06:23,249 And there is not necessarily that much public info that we can share 103 00:06:23,249 --> 00:06:24,150 at this point. 104 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:26,753 What I can tell you is that now in February, 105 00:06:27,153 --> 00:06:30,256 the Legislative Assembly is going to vote 106 00:06:30,456 --> 00:06:33,993 on approving 20 different laws that pertain 107 00:06:33,993 --> 00:06:38,431 to not only to the volcano bonds, but also to the residency status 108 00:06:38,664 --> 00:06:39,332 and how 109 00:06:39,332 --> 00:06:42,602 that's going to work out for people who actually want to move to El Salvador. 110 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:45,505 We have a lot of people, a lot of investors 111 00:06:45,505 --> 00:06:49,041 that have come and bought homes already. 112 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:51,310 They moved with their families. 113 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:52,578 It's crazy what's happening. 114 00:06:52,578 --> 00:06:54,781 The migration is crazy and it's real. 115 00:06:54,781 --> 00:06:58,851 We don't have numbers right now on the number of people that have moved. 116 00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:03,990 But what I can tell you is that we have about between 203 hundred 117 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:07,160 companies that we know have 118 00:07:08,161 --> 00:07:10,363 incorporated because of Bitcoin. 119 00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:12,632 They have come from other countries. 120 00:07:12,632 --> 00:07:15,301 They have opened 121 00:07:15,301 --> 00:07:16,536 a Salvadorian company. 122 00:07:16,536 --> 00:07:18,438 Now, you know, like a subsidiary. 123 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:19,272 Right? 124 00:07:19,305 --> 00:07:22,175 And, and it's about 200 to 300. 125 00:07:22,175 --> 00:07:25,278 But I can tell you that we, we have people 126 00:07:25,411 --> 00:07:28,714 who have migrated to our country 127 00:07:29,048 --> 00:07:33,386 and have not only opened offices, but have bought property. 128 00:07:33,719 --> 00:07:38,057 People from Singapore, Canada, the United States, Europe, 129 00:07:38,191 --> 00:07:42,028 even from Africa and obviously from some other countries in Latin America. 130 00:07:42,228 --> 00:07:44,063 So it's for us, it's crazy. 131 00:07:44,063 --> 00:07:47,233 It's crazy to be seeing this 132 00:07:52,538 --> 00:07:55,508 Bitcoin is a legal tender being El Salvador. 133 00:07:55,842 --> 00:07:58,244 And that means that every in 134 00:07:58,644 --> 00:08:02,181 any single bank in the country has to take Bitcoin. 135 00:08:02,415 --> 00:08:04,884 So we having had an issue where, 136 00:08:05,751 --> 00:08:08,421 let's say a customer goes into a bank and 137 00:08:09,121 --> 00:08:13,192 and the bank refuses to use it, it's a legal tender and they have to use it. 138 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:18,564 Let's say if I had $10 million in Fiat and I wanted to transfer that, 139 00:08:18,931 --> 00:08:21,167 they would ask me, where is this money coming from right then? 140 00:08:21,267 --> 00:08:24,003 And they have the right to ask that question. 141 00:08:24,003 --> 00:08:25,671 In the traditional banking system, 142 00:08:26,973 --> 00:08:27,540 I don't 143 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:30,676 think that we have we have had that issue yet. 144 00:08:31,043 --> 00:08:34,981 When someone comes with, I don't know, five or ten Bitcoins 145 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:38,985 and they want to transfer it to to a bank, we haven't had that issue. 146 00:08:39,151 --> 00:08:41,187 But I know that if there was 147 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:44,190 if we had a problem, if a customer had a problem 148 00:08:44,490 --> 00:08:47,994 and where they didn't want to take their Bitcoins or they were asking 149 00:08:48,227 --> 00:08:52,231 too many questions as opposed to do it in a defi way, 150 00:08:52,331 --> 00:08:54,934 then we would know about it or the customer 151 00:08:55,334 --> 00:08:58,137 Especially now in social media, the customer will speak up. 152 00:08:58,404 --> 00:09:01,807 But that hasn't happened yet. 153 00:09:06,979 --> 00:09:07,914 Or not. 154 00:09:07,914 --> 00:09:09,081 I mean, we're not dangerous. 155 00:09:09,081 --> 00:09:13,052 What we're trying to do is to really adapt ourselves 156 00:09:13,052 --> 00:09:16,756 to the changes in the world right now, to the future. 157 00:09:16,756 --> 00:09:21,127 The future is digital with 3.0 is is already here. 158 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:22,628 I was about to say it's coming up now. 159 00:09:22,628 --> 00:09:24,363 Noise is already here. 160 00:09:24,363 --> 00:09:28,167 And if we or any other country doesn't adapt 161 00:09:28,501 --> 00:09:32,271 to the changes, then we're going to get we're going to be behind. 162 00:09:32,605 --> 00:09:33,906 We're going to be 163 00:09:33,906 --> 00:09:37,710 we're going to be slacking, you know, in not working on behalf of our people. 164 00:09:38,010 --> 00:09:39,545 And that's what we're trying to do. 165 00:09:39,545 --> 00:09:41,981 People can say all sorts of things. 166 00:09:42,181 --> 00:09:46,352 They can say that it's that the volcano bonds won't work, 167 00:09:47,119 --> 00:09:48,721 but we know that they will 168 00:09:55,494 --> 00:09:58,731 I think it was a very innovative idea. 169 00:09:59,465 --> 00:10:02,401 Like you said, and I don't think anybody was expecting, 170 00:10:02,401 --> 00:10:06,839 you know, to to hear about volcano bonds and just just the fact 171 00:10:07,106 --> 00:10:11,444 that El Salvador is mining with volcanoes. 172 00:10:11,644 --> 00:10:14,880 I mean, that's, you know, that should blow your mind, right? 173 00:10:15,114 --> 00:10:19,852 So now when we think about volcano bonds and the fact that a lot of people already 174 00:10:19,852 --> 00:10:24,390 have committed to purchasing to buying these bonds, 175 00:10:24,590 --> 00:10:28,761 we know that the 20 laws that the Congress is supposed to pass 176 00:10:29,261 --> 00:10:32,765 supposed to vote on are coming up in the next few weeks. 177 00:10:32,798 --> 00:10:36,669 Now, in February, that's when we will know when they will be available 178 00:10:36,669 --> 00:10:37,670 for people to buy. 179 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:41,474 And we also know that every time we talk about Bitcoin, 180 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:44,610 we also know that Bitcoin is just that. 181 00:10:44,677 --> 00:10:47,880 The tipping point is just the beginning for El Salvador. 182 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,753 We're looking into the creation of dolls allowing, you know, having a law 183 00:10:53,919 --> 00:10:59,258 that can allow people to create dolls, decentralized, autonomous, organizations, 184 00:10:59,492 --> 00:11:03,262 as well as we know that we're moving towards defi inevitably. 185 00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:09,468 You know, it's not just Bitcoin is really decentralized finances and decentralized. 186 00:11:09,468 --> 00:11:10,569 Many of the things 187 00:11:17,410 --> 00:11:19,979 in regards to maybe other other coins, 188 00:11:21,047 --> 00:11:23,516 it's too early so premature to say that. 189 00:11:23,849 --> 00:11:29,855 But when I say defi, I mean the use of blockchain in a law 190 00:11:30,122 --> 00:11:33,225 that allows us to for instance, create 191 00:11:33,459 --> 00:11:35,628 digital identity for our citizens, 192 00:11:36,228 --> 00:11:39,365 especially in the areas of health and education. 193 00:11:39,632 --> 00:11:42,368 You know, we don't want to be carrying around 194 00:11:42,368 --> 00:11:45,571 a cart, a plastic card like an idea, right? 195 00:11:45,738 --> 00:11:48,908 We want to have a digital identity where 196 00:11:49,341 --> 00:11:51,477 if I go to the doctor in this state 197 00:11:52,244 --> 00:11:54,480 and then I happen to have an emergency 198 00:11:54,747 --> 00:11:57,216 for 100 kilometers away, 199 00:11:57,583 --> 00:12:01,387 any doctor on that site can also check my, my 200 00:12:01,854 --> 00:12:06,559 my record, my health record digitally without me having to have papers. 201 00:12:06,692 --> 00:12:10,196 We want to get rid of papers and that can only be achieved through blockchain 202 00:12:16,969 --> 00:12:19,472 no. And yes, I do know about that concept. 203 00:12:19,472 --> 00:12:21,273 There is something that 204 00:12:21,607 --> 00:12:24,477 our teams have talked about so 205 00:12:25,377 --> 00:12:27,980 but I think there is so much going on 206 00:12:28,214 --> 00:12:30,616 that we have to start with perhaps. 207 00:12:31,283 --> 00:12:34,520 And I'm just making a 208 00:12:34,653 --> 00:12:35,921 an assumption here 209 00:12:35,921 --> 00:12:39,792 that the way we are going to adopt digital identity, 210 00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:43,662 for instance, perhaps at the beginning is going to be in a centralized way 211 00:12:43,662 --> 00:12:47,066 until we can move towards decentralized decentralization 212 00:12:48,067 --> 00:12:50,236 because it will be built in on the blockchain. 213 00:12:51,036 --> 00:12:55,341 But what you're talking about would also absolutely be revolutionary. 214 00:12:56,008 --> 00:13:00,780 It will show that how democracy works, especially now in the future 215 00:13:00,780 --> 00:13:05,851 in, you know, using Web 3.0 or in this case in the metaverse. 216 00:13:06,152 --> 00:13:09,488 I mean, is is definitely something that we would aspire to 217 00:13:15,227 --> 00:13:17,530 but it's real bitcoin. 218 00:13:18,097 --> 00:13:20,199 I don't know where that's coming from. 219 00:13:20,199 --> 00:13:24,203 I think the wallet has had a few issues, technical issues. 220 00:13:24,203 --> 00:13:25,037 Right. 221 00:13:25,671 --> 00:13:27,907 I know that the teams have been working 222 00:13:29,041 --> 00:13:31,343 programmers and developers have been working 223 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:35,147 on fixing the bugs, on fixed making it more 224 00:13:36,215 --> 00:13:42,254 easier, I guess, to to, you know, to use to be used but not sure 225 00:13:42,254 --> 00:13:46,292 why people are saying that what the what their wallets have is not Bitcoin. 226 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,894 It is obviously Bitcoin 227 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:55,668 A few weeks ago, 228 00:13:55,668 --> 00:13:58,737 we had a senator from Mexico 229 00:13:59,004 --> 00:14:02,341 come to visit us and she has strategic meetings 230 00:14:02,341 --> 00:14:05,911 with the government and private sector and academia. 231 00:14:05,911 --> 00:14:10,316 And she wanted to learn about how El Salvador adopted Bitcoin. 232 00:14:10,649 --> 00:14:15,821 And the reason why she wanted to learn is because she is from the state of Nuevo 233 00:14:15,821 --> 00:14:18,958 Leon in Mexico and on Monterrey 234 00:14:19,792 --> 00:14:23,028 happens to be the FinTech three. 235 00:14:23,262 --> 00:14:26,832 It's all about fintech and it's a very industrialized state. 236 00:14:27,132 --> 00:14:31,203 They are the Barcelona of Spain of Mexico. 237 00:14:31,203 --> 00:14:34,974 And this case is like they could if they were to separate from Mexico, 238 00:14:34,974 --> 00:14:37,977 they will be fine because they have the generate a lot of the 239 00:14:39,445 --> 00:14:41,013 GDP for Mexico. 240 00:14:41,013 --> 00:14:44,483 So they're very advanced compared to the rest of Mexico. 241 00:14:44,483 --> 00:14:46,318 And she came to learn. 242 00:14:46,318 --> 00:14:49,555 So we are in contact with some Mexican officials 243 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:52,992 who are pro bitcoin, who are pro blockchain. 244 00:14:53,659 --> 00:14:56,862 Mind you're saying, my understanding is that she's interested in 245 00:14:57,563 --> 00:15:01,333 launching her reelection campaign on the use of blockchain, 246 00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:04,203 which is fantastic, you know, and it's a woman who's doing it. 247 00:15:05,037 --> 00:15:08,073 There are other officials public officials 248 00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:11,911 in Paraguay, in other countries who have knocked on our door. 249 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,780 And they they they're also asking questions 250 00:15:14,780 --> 00:15:18,817 and want to know and they want to come and visit and is great, is great 251 00:15:18,817 --> 00:15:23,722 to have all this support from other public officials in other countries. 252 00:15:24,223 --> 00:15:26,191 I don't know who's going to be next. 253 00:15:26,191 --> 00:15:30,529 I just know that it may not necessarily be a country. 254 00:15:30,529 --> 00:15:34,700 It can be a municipality like Arizona or a state. 255 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:37,069 You know, in this case, it was in the United States. 256 00:15:37,469 --> 00:15:39,972 A congresswoman, actually, a senator. 257 00:15:39,972 --> 00:15:41,240 I'm sorry. I actually 258 00:15:42,241 --> 00:15:44,476 wrote a proposal, 259 00:15:44,476 --> 00:15:48,080 a law proposal for Bitcoin to be adopted in that state. 260 00:15:48,347 --> 00:15:51,517 So if it happens emerging, it will be like in a way 261 00:15:51,750 --> 00:15:55,087 like what happened with marijuana with cannabis in the states, 262 00:15:55,087 --> 00:15:58,724 only a few states adopted it, but it's not legal at the federal level. 263 00:15:58,891 --> 00:16:01,727 So it might be the same thing that is going to be happening 264 00:16:02,094 --> 00:16:04,430 in the United States. 265 00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:12,571 Want to invest in in Bitcoin, 266 00:16:14,073 --> 00:16:15,507 on blockchain, 267 00:16:16,742 --> 00:16:19,578 I think there's a lot of room for mining in El Salvador. 268 00:16:19,845 --> 00:16:22,047 As you know, our government is already mining 269 00:16:22,848 --> 00:16:27,686 with geothermal energy from a volcano, which is fantastic. 270 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:31,890 But there is a lot of room specially for green mining. 271 00:16:32,191 --> 00:16:35,260 And I think what Sebastian is doing 272 00:16:35,561 --> 00:16:38,497 is, is very innovative. 273 00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:40,232 We welcome anybody 274 00:16:40,232 --> 00:16:45,170 and everybody who wants to come in mine because it's not just Bitcoin City. 275 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:50,209 We have 170 volcanoes in this tiny country, 170. 276 00:16:50,409 --> 00:16:53,712 So there is a lot of room for people who want to come in mine 277 00:17:00,686 --> 00:17:01,086 that's a 278 00:17:01,086 --> 00:17:04,223 question that only the president could answer because it really depends. 279 00:17:04,223 --> 00:17:06,425 I mean, he's been buying on the dip 280 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:11,096 and so we have to see what happens with the price of Bitcoin. 281 00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:14,867 But I wouldn't be able to tell you if he's going to buy in one time. 24268

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