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It's a time of enormous turmoil.
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Shut up in here.
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The '60s are over dad.
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Here's Michael at
the foul line, a shot on ehlo.
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Good!
Yeah!
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Haha!
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We intend to cover all the news all the time.
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We won't be signing off until the world ends.
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Isn't that special?
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Any tool for human expression
will bring out the best
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and the worst in us,
and television has been that.
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They don't pay me enough
to deal with animals like this.
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People are no longer embarrassed
to admit they watch television.
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We have seen the news and it is us.
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Slowly but surely, the 1970s are disappearing.
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The 1980s will be upon us.
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What a decade it is coming up.
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Happy new year!
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As you begin the '80s
in the television world,
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the landscape was, on any given evening,
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9 out of 10 people were watching
only one of three networks.
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More than 30 million people are addicted to it.
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Social critics are mystified by its success.
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What is it?
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It's television's primetime,
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prairie pot boiler, "Dallas."
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A move like that will destroy all of ewing oil,
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and it'll ruin our family name.
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I assure you, a thought like
that never crossed my mind.
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Brother or no brother, whatever it takes,
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I'll stop you from destroying ewing oil.
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"Dallas" really did establish new ground
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in terms of the weekly, one hour show
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that literally captivated america for 13 years.
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"Dallas" is a television show
which in some ways is rooted
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in the 1970's and one of the crazy things
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that emerges is this character,
J.R. Ewing as a pop phenomenon.
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Tell me, J.R., which slut
are you gonna stay with tonight?
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What difference does it make?
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Whoever it is it's got to be more interesting
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than the slut I'm looking at right now.
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He was such a delicious villain.
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Everyone was completely enamored
by this character.
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At this point so many
people were watching television
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that you could do something so unexpected
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that it would become news overnight.
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Who's there?
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The national obsession in 1980
around who shot J.R.
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It's hard to imagine how obsessed we all were
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with that question, but we were.
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Who shot J.R. Is about as ideal a cliffhanger
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as you possibly could get.
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Who did shoot J.R.?
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We may never get the answer to that question.
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I mean, the people who produced
that program are gonna keep us
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in suspense for as long as they possibly can.
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We shot J.R. And then we broke for the summer.
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Then coincidentally,
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the actors went on strike
and it delayed the resolution.
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And it just started to percolate
through the world.
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I remember going on vacation
to england that summer
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and that's all that people
were talking about there.
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Well we know you don't die.
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I mean, you couldn't die?
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You don't know that.
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Well, how could you die?
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You couldn't come back next season.
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That's what I mean.
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I couldn't come back,
but the show could still go.
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Oh, but you wouldn't?
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What is that show without J.R.?
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Well, that's what I figure.
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Well, I guess if you don't
know by now who shot J.R.,
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you probably do not care.
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But last night, some 82 million Americans did
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and they watched the muchtouted
"Dallas" episode.
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It could become the most watched
television show ever.
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Who shot J.R. Is a reflection
of oldfashioned television.
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It's a moment that gathers everybody around
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the electronic fireplace,
which is now the television set.
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Now, about one special
American television program,
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a critic said it transcends in popularity
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every other American statement about war.
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And something special happened today
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to mobile army surgical hospital 4077
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that will touch millions of Americans.
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It was the kind of an event that
would draw the world's press.
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Stage nine, 20th century fox studios,
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the end of the korean war -
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the television version, "M.A.S.H."
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It's been an honor and a privilege
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to have worked with you.
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And I'm very, very proud to have known you.
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There were those landmark times
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when shows that had been watched
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through the '70s and into
the '80s, like "M.A.S.H.,"
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had its final episode.
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And were all sad to see them go.
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I'll miss you.
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I'll miss you.
A lot.
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All over the country,
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armies of fans crowded around television sets
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to watch the final episode
and to bid "M.A.S.H." Farewell.
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Levine: The finale of "m.A.S.H."
Was unprecedented.
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123 million people
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watched one television program at the same time.
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You know, I really should be allowed to go home.
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There's nothing wrong with me.
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When we ended the show,
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we got telegrams of congratulations
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from Henry Kissinger and Ronald Reagan.
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The size of the response
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and the emotional nature of the response
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that we were getting was
difficult for us to understand.
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Who shot J.R. And the last episode of "M.A.S.H."
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Are the last call for the
precable world of television.
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It's like they are the last time
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that that huge audience
will all turn up for one event.
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All right.
That's it. Let's roll.
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Hey...
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Let's be careful out there.
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Dispatch. We have a 911.
Armed robbery in progress.
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When quality does emerge on television,
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the phrase "too good for TV" is often heard.
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One recent network offering that seems to deserve
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that phrase is "hill street blues."
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"Hill street" is one of the changing points
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of the entire industry in the history of TV.
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We had all watched a documentary about cops
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and it had this real handheld,
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in the moment quality
that we were very enamored of.
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Come in!
Come in!
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The minute you looked at it, it looked different.
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It had a mood to it.
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You could almost, you could
almost smell the stale coffee.
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We didn't want to do a standard cop show
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where, you know, you got a crime
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and you got your two cops and you go out
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and you catch the bad guy and you sweat him
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and he confesses and that's it.
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Cops have personal lives
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that impact their behavior in profound ways.
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Well, what about it?
Is he here or is he elsewhere?
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Let's don't get excited counselor.
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We're working on it.
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How's this for logic, Furillo -
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if he's not here and if he's
not elsewhere, he's lost.
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We didn't say that, counselor.
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You lost my client.
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Not lost, per se.
Never in my entire life
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have I listened to so much incompetence
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covered up by so much unmitigated crap.
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Find my client, Furillo,
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or I swear I'll have you up on charges.
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There'd be these ongoing arcs for these characters
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that would play out over five, six episodes,
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sometimes an entire season.
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And in a way, for certain
stories, over the entire series.
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And no one had really done that
in an hourlong dramatic show.
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These past four months I've missed you.
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I had to find that out.
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Come home, pizza man.
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I think in the past,
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people had watched television passively
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and the one thing I think we did
set out to be were provocateurs.
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You want an accident report?
You fill it out.
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What the hell's the matter with you man?
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I'll tell you something.
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They don't pay me enough
to deal with animals like this.
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The first thing they see is a white face
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and all they want to do is do him in!
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You listen to me, Renko.
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It was a white finger that pulled the trigger,
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not a black one!
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It was a white one.
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It set a trend.
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The idea that the audience
can accept its characters
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being deeply flawed, you know,
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even though they're wearing this uniform.
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And I thought that that was important
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to finally get across.
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Don't do it!
No biting!
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We wanted to make a show
that made you participate,
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made you pay attention.
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And I think that worked pretty well.
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And the winner is...
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"Hill Street Blues."
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We got 21 nominations
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and we went on to win eight emmys
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and it put us on the map, literally.
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And that's when people finally checked us out.
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The programming chief of one of the networks
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used to say to me about shows like "hill street"
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and "St. Elsewhere,"
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what the American public wants is a cheeseburger
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and what you're trying to give
them is a French delicacy.
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And he said, your job is to keep
shoving it down their throat
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until after a while they'll say,
"that doesn't taste bad."
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And maybe they'll even order it themselves
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when they go to the restaurant.
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Nice of you to join us Dr. Morrison.
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The success of "Hill Street Blues"
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is a critical phenomenon,
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influenced everything that came after.
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And then, of course, you saw
shows like "St. Elsewhere."
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Do you know what people call this place?
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Not St. Eligius.
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St. Elsewhere.
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A place you wouldn't want
to send your motherinlaw.
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When it first came on,
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it was actually promoted
as "Hill Street" in a hospital.
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You give your patients the wrong antibiotics.
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You don't know what medications they're on.
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You write the worst progress notes.
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You're pathetic.
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Pathetic!
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Phil!
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What?!
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Phil!
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What?!
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Dr. Moray needs you right away.
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I'm sorry.
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"St. Elsewhere" broke every rule there was
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and then built some new rules.
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Bobby, the blood bank
called a little while ago.
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They ran a routine panel
on that pint of blood.
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Tcell count was off.
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They would have tragic things
happen to these characters.
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There was real heartache in these people's lives.
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And you really felt for them.
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I've got aids?
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Television at its best is a
mirror of society in the moment.
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"St. Elsewhere" challenged people.
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It challenged you as an actor
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much less the audience, to think.
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The stuff they gave you
was extreme and what they did
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whether they were dealing with aids
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or having one of their main doctor characters
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raped in a prison.
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They tackled lots of difficult subjects.
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"St. Elsewhere" was run by people who were trying
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to stretch the medium, and in the '80s,
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television producers were encouraged
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to stretch the medium.
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Okay.
Clear.
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A lot of people used to say, "I was there."
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Now people say they watch it on television.
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There's just a lot of excitement
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connected to sports in the '80s.
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You used to have to depend on the five minutes
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at the end of your local newscast.
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There just hadn't been enough, you know?
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Give us a whole network of sports.
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There's just one place you need to go
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for all the names and games
making sports news -
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"ESPN sports center."
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What happens in the 1980s
is sports becomes a TV show
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and what are TV shows built around?
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They're built around characters.
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You can't be serious, man.
You cannot be serious!
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You guys are the absolute pits
of the world, you know that?
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Mcenroe, the perfect villain.
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The new yorker that people loved to hate.
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Borg the cool Swede,
never giving any emotion away.
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What tennis really wants
is to get its two best players
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playing over and over again in the final.
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Whether there's John Mcenroe and Bjorn Borg
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or Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova.
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That's what we want to tune into
over and over and over again.
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Oh, could this be?
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Net court at three match points
to martina navratilova.
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Know that this man has a smile
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that lights up a television screen
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from here to bangor, Maine.
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And then there is magic Johnson,
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this urban kid from Michigan
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and Larry bird, this guy
who worked carrying trash.
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One plays for the Los Angeles Lakers,
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the other plays for the Boston celtics.
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It's a great story.
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Off the back.
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Lakers had several chances
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and here's Larry bird dunking down the court.
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Magic Johnson leads the attack.
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Look at that pass.
Oh, oh! What a show!
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What a great play!
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Oh!
What a show!
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When those championship games
are in prime time
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and people are paying attention to that,
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television feeds into those rivalries
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and makes them bigger
than they've ever been before.
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Every Mike Tyson fight was an event
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because every fight was like an ax murder.
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When he fought Michael Spinks,
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the electricity, you could just
feel it watching it on TV.
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Here comes Mike, Spinks in!
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He leads with a right hand!
Down he goes!
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Tyson was made for TV because there was drama.
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It's all over! Mike Tyson has won it!
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Not a lot of junior high school kids can dunk,
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especially at five feet.
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But everybody tries now.
Everybody tries.
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I bet now.
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I think that he is starting
to transcend just his sport.
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He's becoming something of a public figure.
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Michael Jordan becomes the model
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that every other athlete wants to shoot for.
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They want to be a brand.
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And that's what television does for these athletes.
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It turns them into worldwide, iconic brands.
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The inbound pass comes in to Jordan.
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Here's Michael at the foul line.
A shot on ehlo.
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Good!
Yeah!
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The bulls win!
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Athletes in the '80s became part of an ongoing
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group of people that we cared about.
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We just had an enormous, pentup demand for sports
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and the '80s began to provide.
Thank goodness.
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Cable television is continuing to grow.
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It's estimated that it will go into
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one million more U.S. households this year.
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With cable television suddenly
offering an array
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of different channel choices,
the audience bifurcated.
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That's an earthquake.
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I want my mtv!
I want my mtv!
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I want my mtv!
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I want my mtv.
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I want my mtv.
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A new concept is born -
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the best of TV combined with the best of radio.
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This is it.
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Welcome to mtv, music television -
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the world's first 24hour,
stereo, video music channel.
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Music television, what a concept.
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Mtv was, pow!, in your face.
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You were not gonna turn us off.
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Mtv did nothing
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but play current music videos all day long.
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So let me get this straight -
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you turn on the TV and it's like the radio?
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I'm Martha Quinn.
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The music will continue nonstop
on mtv music television,
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the newest component of your stereo system.
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When mtv launched, a generation was launched.
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18 to 24yearolds were saying,
"I want my mtv."
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I want my mtv videos.
I want my mtv fashion.
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Yo!
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Mtv was the first network
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really focused on the youth market
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and becomes hugely influential
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because they understand each other,
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the audience and the network.
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Mtv had a giant impact visually and musically
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on every part of the TV culture that came next.
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Freeze!
Freeze!
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Miami vice.
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Friday nights on nbc are different this season,
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thanks to "Miami vice."
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It's a show with an old theme,
but a lot of new twists.
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Described by one critic
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as containing flashes of brilliance, nonetheless.
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Shot entirely on location in south Miami,
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the story centers around two undercover vice cops.
364
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I don't know how this is gonna work tubbs.
365
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I mean, you're not exactly up my
alley style and persona wise.
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Heaven knows I'm no box of candy.
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Television very much was the small screen.
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What was interesting
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about Tony yerkovich's pilot screenplay
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for "Miami vice" is that
it was exactly not that.
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Very much the approach was,
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okay they call this a television series,
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but we're gonna make onehour
movies every single week.
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Okay, here we go.
Standby.
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Action!
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Police!
Police!
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You were just describing the show
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as sort of a newwave cop show.
379
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Yeah, it's a cop show for the '80s.
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I mean, we use a lot of mtv images
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and rock music to help describe the mood
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and feeling of our show.
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In a lot of ways,
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you don't get "Miami vice" without mtv
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because in a lot of ways,
"Miami vice" was a long video.
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The music was such a big part of that show.
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There was an allure to using great music
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that everybody was listening
to as opposed to the routine
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kind of TV scoring of that period.
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Not only was it not afraid
to let long scenes play out,
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it would drag - a car
going from point a to point b
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could be a fourminute Phil Collins song,
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you know, and it was.
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Being able to take a television series
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like "Miami vice" and let's
really kind of rock 'n' roll
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with this until somebody says,
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"stop, are you guys crazy?
You can't do that."
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And nobody ever did.
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Go!
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Freeze! Police!
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Thomas Magnum?
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Marion Hammond?
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The private investigator?
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Oh
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you're probably wondering about the goat.
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Um, just let me drop off
my friend, and then we'll talk.
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When we entered the '80s,
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a lot of onehour dramas that were light hearted,
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like "Magnum, p.I.,"
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were very popular.
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After "m.A.S.H."
Went off the air,
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the next season there wasn't
a single sitcom in the top 10.
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First time that had ever happened in TV history.
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The prevailing feeling was that the sitcom was dead.
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Brandon tartikoff, nbc programming chief,
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says reports of the sitcom's
death were greatly exaggerated.
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Time and time again,
if you study television history,
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just when someone is counting a form out,
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that is exactly the form of programming
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that leads to the next big hit.
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So 1984, "the cosby show" comes on.
422
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Now, bill cosby's not new to TV.
He's had other TV shows.
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But "the cosby show" is very different.
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It stands apart from everything else he's done.
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Mom, I wanted my eggs scrambled.
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Coming right up.
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They talked about parenting.
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Previous to that, on television
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the kids were cool and the parents were idiots.
430
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And then cosby says the parents are in charge
431
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and that was something new.
432
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Instead of acting disappointed
because I'm not like you,
433
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maybe you can just accept who I am
434
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and love me anyway because I'm your son.
435
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That's the dumbest thing
I've ever heard in my life!
436
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You know, it helps,
437
00:19:56,795 --> 00:19:58,230
the casting of anything helps a lot in television.
438
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And the kids were just great.
439
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If you were the last person on this earth,
440
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I still wouldn't tell you.
441
00:20:04,336 --> 00:20:06,672
You don't have to tell me what you did.
442
00:20:06,738 --> 00:20:10,208
Just tell me what they're gonna do to you.
443
00:20:10,275 --> 00:20:11,877
Unlike every other show on TV,
444
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it's showing an uppermiddleclass black family.
445
00:20:15,113 --> 00:20:16,448
This wasn't "all in the family."
446
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They weren't tackling, you know, deep issues.
447
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But that was okay.
448
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The mere fact that they existed
was a deep issue.
449
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The decade was waiting for something real.
450
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In other words, unless it's real
451
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it doesn't seem like it moves anybody.
452
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If someone's feeling something,
453
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you get to the heart, you get to the mind.
454
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And if you can hit the hearts and minds,
455
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you got yourself a hit.
456
00:20:36,835 --> 00:20:38,070
How was school?
457
00:20:38,136 --> 00:20:39,938
School, dear?
458
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I brought home two children
that may or may not be ours.
459
00:20:45,544 --> 00:20:51,483
Cosby's show brought
this tremendous audience to nbc.
460
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And that was a bridge to us.
I mean, our ratings went way up.
461
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Even the theme song to "cheers"
put you in a good mood.
462
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Evening everybody.
463
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Norm!
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Norman.
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What's shaking norm?
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All four cheeks and a couple of chins, coach.
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By the end of the "cheers" pilot,
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not only did you know who everybody was,
469
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but you wanted to come back
and see what was gonna happen.
470
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It's like all you have to do is watch it once,
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you're gonna love these people.
472
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These are universal characters
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and the humor worked on so many levels.
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Last night I was up till 2:00 in the morning
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finishing off kierkegaard.
476
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I hope he thanked you for it.
477
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You have to create a community
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that people are identifying with.
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And "cheers" gives you that community.
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Boy I tell you, I've always wanted to sky dive.
481
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I've just never had the guts.
482
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What did it feel like?
483
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Well, imagine it's a lot like sex, Sammy.
484
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Not that I have to imagine what sex is like.
485
00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:59,651
But I've had plenty of sex,
and plenty of this, too.
486
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What don't you just get off my back, okay?
487
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Long: In the first episode,
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there was a rather passionate annoyance.
489
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I was saying, uh, something's going on here.
490
00:22:12,831 --> 00:22:16,268
A really intelligent woman
would see your line of b.S.
491
00:22:16,334 --> 00:22:17,636
A mile away.
492
00:22:17,703 --> 00:22:20,906
I've never met an intelligent
woman that I'd want to date.
493
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On behalf of the intelligent
women around the world,
494
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may I just say, phew!
495
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When we saw what
Ted and shelley had together,
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we said, "oh no, we gotta do this relationship."
497
00:22:34,252 --> 00:22:38,824
Ted and I understood what
they were writing right away.
498
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If you'll admit that you are carrying
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a little torch for me,
500
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I'll admit that i'm
carrying a little one for you.
501
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Well, I aam carrying a little torch for you.
502
00:22:52,771 --> 00:22:54,573
Well,
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I'm not carrying one for you.
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Diane knew how to tease Sam.
Sam knew how to tease Diane.
505
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,416
And I guess we knew
how to tease the audience.
506
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This incredible chemistry
507
00:23:08,153 --> 00:23:09,988
between the two of them ignited the show.
508
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:12,257
And that's what drove the show
for the first five years.
509
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Oh, I'm devastated.
510
00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:15,260
I need something expeditious
511
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and brutal to numb my sensibilities
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and blast me into sweet oblivion.
513
00:23:19,798 --> 00:23:20,832
How about a boilermaker?
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Make it a mimosa.
515
00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:26,204
We had the luck to be able to rotate cast
516
00:23:26,271 --> 00:23:29,908
and every time we put somebody
in, there were explosions.
517
00:23:32,344 --> 00:23:35,213
Bwah!
518
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,618
There was something
very special about that setting,
519
00:23:39,684 --> 00:23:44,322
those characters, that I never
got tired of writing that show.
520
00:23:44,389 --> 00:23:46,925
Sophisticated surveys, telephonic samplings,
521
00:23:46,992 --> 00:23:48,960
test audiences, all of those things
522
00:23:49,027 --> 00:23:50,962
help to separate winners from losers
523
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:52,831
and make midcourse corrections.
524
00:23:52,898 --> 00:23:55,867
But you can't cut all comedies
from the same cookie cutters.
525
00:23:55,934 --> 00:23:59,271
All you can hope is that every
night turns out like Thursday.
526
00:23:59,337 --> 00:24:00,839
Yo, Angela!
527
00:24:00,906 --> 00:24:02,707
Larry, Larry.
528
00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:03,942
Next...
529
00:24:05,043 --> 00:24:05,944
How rude.
530
00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:10,415
He's quick, I'll give him that.
531
00:24:10,482 --> 00:24:11,616
All of television said,
532
00:24:11,683 --> 00:24:15,253
"oh, well, maybe the sitcoms are alive again."
533
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,557
And that's all that it took.
It took one success.
534
00:24:18,623 --> 00:24:19,591
A few years from now,
535
00:24:19,658 --> 00:24:21,226
something new may tempt the people
536
00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:22,494
who pick what we see.
537
00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:24,296
But it's a very safe guess
that whatever gets hot
538
00:24:24,362 --> 00:24:26,832
for a season or two,
the men and women who create
539
00:24:26,898 --> 00:24:28,300
good television comedy
540
00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:30,202
will be laughing all the way to the bank.
541
00:24:39,678 --> 00:24:41,213
This is my last broadcast
542
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:43,782
as the anchorman of the "CBS evening news."
543
00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:46,484
For me it's a moment
for which I long have planned,
544
00:24:46,551 --> 00:24:49,287
but which nevertheless comes with some sadness.
545
00:24:49,354 --> 00:24:51,022
For almost two decades after all,
546
00:24:51,089 --> 00:24:53,758
we've been meeting like this in
the evenings and I'll miss that.
547
00:24:53,825 --> 00:24:57,729
And that's the way it is,
Friday, march 6, 1981.
548
00:24:57,796 --> 00:24:59,231
I'll be away on assignment
549
00:24:59,297 --> 00:25:02,133
and Dan rather will be sitting
in here for the next few years.
550
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,401
Good night.
551
00:25:03,468 --> 00:25:07,038
Uncle Walter had dominated certainly CBS,
552
00:25:07,105 --> 00:25:08,874
but in a way the country.
553
00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:10,275
People used to say
554
00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:13,111
that he was the most trusted man in the country.
555
00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:15,046
Once Walter cronkite retires,
556
00:25:15,113 --> 00:25:17,148
all three network news anchors
557
00:25:17,215 --> 00:25:18,583
within a period of a couple of years
558
00:25:18,650 --> 00:25:20,051
switch over to a new generation.
559
00:25:20,118 --> 00:25:22,187
The '80s may have been the last gasp
560
00:25:22,254 --> 00:25:25,957
where people watching the media
liked and trusted the media.
561
00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:29,261
Nuclear arms and how to prevent
global destruction
562
00:25:29,327 --> 00:25:30,996
are expected to be the major topic
563
00:25:31,062 --> 00:25:33,098
of President Reagan's news conference tonight.
564
00:25:33,164 --> 00:25:35,066
That conference will be nationally televised
565
00:25:35,133 --> 00:25:36,134
within the hour.
566
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,836
Lesley stahl is at the white house.
567
00:25:37,903 --> 00:25:39,804
The white house is hoping that tomorrow's...
568
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:42,207
In the '80s, women came into the newsroom.
569
00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:46,011
When I first joined, it was '72
and there were very few.
570
00:25:46,077 --> 00:25:49,080
By the '80s, there were more and more.
571
00:25:49,147 --> 00:25:50,382
The decade of the '80s
572
00:25:50,448 --> 00:25:52,450
was still a time of sink or swim.
573
00:25:52,517 --> 00:25:54,653
You had to be resilient in your own way
574
00:25:54,719 --> 00:25:58,156
to survive in a period
when you were going up against
575
00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:01,793
a lot of people who still didn't
think women had what it took.
576
00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:04,329
These are some of the most
famous faces in broadcasting,
577
00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:06,131
all of whom happen to be women.
578
00:26:06,197 --> 00:26:08,733
The best producers, I'm gonna get fired -
579
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,770
the best producers at CBS news are women.
580
00:26:11,836 --> 00:26:14,940
And they are at the level of taking hold
581
00:26:15,006 --> 00:26:17,375
and making decisions about individual pieces.
582
00:26:17,442 --> 00:26:19,244
They're not yet executive producers
583
00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:22,047
of all the news shows, but they will be.
584
00:26:22,113 --> 00:26:23,982
For the past 24 hours,
585
00:26:24,049 --> 00:26:26,217
Christine craft has taken her cause
586
00:26:26,284 --> 00:26:29,054
to many of the nation's news and talk programs.
587
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,089
I didn't set out to be Joan of arc.
588
00:26:31,156 --> 00:26:34,359
But I think that what happened
to me deserves some attention.
589
00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:37,796
Christine craft had a very successful career,
590
00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:39,898
but there she was in her late 30s
591
00:26:39,965 --> 00:26:41,900
and the TV station said to her,
592
00:26:41,967 --> 00:26:45,203
we're taking you off the air
because you've gotten older
593
00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:47,272
and you're not as attractive as you once were,
594
00:26:47,339 --> 00:26:48,707
which was outrageous.
595
00:26:48,773 --> 00:26:50,909
And she decided to make an issue of it.
596
00:26:50,976 --> 00:26:52,610
She filed a lawsuit
597
00:26:52,677 --> 00:26:55,780
and it became a huge
national topic of discussion.
598
00:26:55,847 --> 00:26:58,883
A jury said she got a raw
deal because she is a woman.
599
00:26:58,950 --> 00:27:01,653
And so women in television news
everywhere were asked,
600
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,521
what do you think about Christine craft?
601
00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:05,423
I think unfortunately in recent years,
602
00:27:05,490 --> 00:27:07,258
the emphasis has been increasingly
603
00:27:07,325 --> 00:27:10,528
on physical appearance
and to the extent this decision
604
00:27:10,595 --> 00:27:13,365
helped swing the emphasis back to substance
605
00:27:13,431 --> 00:27:14,699
and to good journalism,
606
00:27:14,766 --> 00:27:16,735
I think we've got something to be happy about.
607
00:27:16,801 --> 00:27:19,871
It was important to make
the point that what mattered
608
00:27:19,938 --> 00:27:21,740
was what kind of reporter are you?
609
00:27:21,806 --> 00:27:24,242
But it took the Christine craft incident,
610
00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:27,912
I think, to bring that
conversation out into the open.
611
00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:29,447
This coming Sunday,
612
00:27:29,514 --> 00:27:32,851
a new television network
opens for business - CNN.
613
00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:34,619
Cable news network.
614
00:27:34,686 --> 00:27:36,321
You're throwing all the dice on this one?
615
00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:38,857
Why not? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
616
00:27:38,923 --> 00:27:40,625
Faint heart never won fair lady.
617
00:27:40,692 --> 00:27:42,894
Well on that original point, Mr. Turner,
618
00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:44,295
thank you very much indeed.
619
00:27:44,362 --> 00:27:47,665
I wanted to see what was going on in the world.
620
00:27:47,732 --> 00:27:49,834
And there was no way that you could do it
621
00:27:49,901 --> 00:27:52,137
watching the regular television stations.
622
00:27:52,203 --> 00:27:55,106
The news only comes on at 6:00 and 10:00.
623
00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:57,442
But if there was news on 24 hours,
624
00:27:57,509 --> 00:27:59,344
people could watch it any time.
625
00:27:59,411 --> 00:28:03,214
We sign on on June 1
and barring satellite problems
626
00:28:03,281 --> 00:28:05,050
in the future, we won't be signing off
627
00:28:05,116 --> 00:28:06,785
until the world ends.
628
00:28:06,851 --> 00:28:08,086
There was a widespread belief
629
00:28:08,153 --> 00:28:09,487
this was a fool's errand.
630
00:28:09,554 --> 00:28:12,123
How can this possibly find an audience?
631
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:14,859
Well, he did.
632
00:28:14,926 --> 00:28:17,162
Ready camera three.
One center up.
633
00:28:17,228 --> 00:28:18,663
Good evening.
I'm David Walker.
634
00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:20,732
And I'm Lois harp.
Now here's the news.
635
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:22,200
President Carter has arrived...
636
00:28:22,267 --> 00:28:25,804
Television news before this was
stuff that had already happened.
637
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:27,505
For the first time,
638
00:28:27,572 --> 00:28:32,010
CNN brought the world to people in real time.
639
00:28:32,077 --> 00:28:35,680
CNN - the world's most important network.
640
00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:38,149
I didn't do cable news network
641
00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:40,118
because somebody told me it couldn't be done.
642
00:28:40,185 --> 00:28:42,487
I figured it was a very viable concept
643
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,322
and I went ahead and did it.
644
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:47,058
It was after we announced
that we were going to do it
645
00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:49,327
that the detractors showed up.
646
00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:52,764
Is cable news network just gonna be a new means
647
00:28:52,831 --> 00:28:54,265
of delivering the same kind of fare?
648
00:28:54,332 --> 00:28:55,767
No.
649
00:28:55,834 --> 00:28:58,503
It already does provide different fare
650
00:28:58,570 --> 00:29:00,572
and cable news network is a perfect
651
00:29:00,638 --> 00:29:03,408
and maybe the best example of that.
652
00:29:03,475 --> 00:29:06,644
People love news and we had lots of it.
653
00:29:06,711 --> 00:29:08,746
And the other guys had not very much.
654
00:29:08,813 --> 00:29:12,250
So choice and quantity won out.
655
00:29:12,317 --> 00:29:14,018
New York City, hello.
656
00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:17,555
A major catastrophe in america's space program...
657
00:29:17,622 --> 00:29:20,725
I'm Lou dobbs along with
financial editor myron kandel.
658
00:29:20,792 --> 00:29:24,028
Jessica mcclure trapped for almost three days now
659
00:29:24,095 --> 00:29:25,930
in a dry artesian well.
660
00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:27,699
The iron curtain between east Germany
661
00:29:27,765 --> 00:29:30,268
and west Berlin has come tumbling down.
662
00:29:30,335 --> 00:29:33,204
Good evening I'm pat Buchanan
the conservative in "crossfire."
663
00:29:33,271 --> 00:29:36,407
The American people
appreciated the new television.
664
00:29:36,474 --> 00:29:40,245
They certainly came to -
came to CNN in droves.
665
00:29:40,311 --> 00:29:44,048
Mr. Gorbachev and I both agree
on the desirability of freer
666
00:29:44,115 --> 00:29:47,685
and more extensive personal
contact between the peoples
667
00:29:47,752 --> 00:29:50,355
of the Soviet union and the United States.
668
00:29:50,421 --> 00:29:53,491
We began to realize that the best way
669
00:29:53,558 --> 00:29:56,427
to get a message to a foreign
leader was to have the president
670
00:29:56,494 --> 00:29:58,997
go in the Rose garden and make a statement.
671
00:29:59,063 --> 00:30:01,733
Because everybody was watching CNN.
672
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:05,803
CNN was a breakthrough.
It changed the whole world.
673
00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:08,907
It changed quickly, the network news business.
674
00:30:08,973 --> 00:30:11,442
That business that we weren't the only ones.
675
00:30:11,509 --> 00:30:12,877
And it was hard, you know.
676
00:30:12,944 --> 00:30:15,680
It's hard to be on the top little perch
677
00:30:15,747 --> 00:30:17,982
and have to come down off it.
678
00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:21,252
A special segment tonight, the network news.
679
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,489
The first in a twopart series
on the profound changes
680
00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:26,658
taking place in television news.
681
00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:29,427
Changes being brought about
by business, competition,
682
00:30:29,494 --> 00:30:30,962
and technology.
683
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:32,931
There are a variety
of reasons why people who worked
684
00:30:32,997 --> 00:30:36,067
at the broadcast networks
were freaked out in the 1980s.
685
00:30:36,134 --> 00:30:39,003
One of them was CNN and the rise of cable.
686
00:30:39,070 --> 00:30:41,573
Another was being taken over
687
00:30:41,639 --> 00:30:44,442
by foreign entities in corporate america.
688
00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:48,079
New owners spent billions
buying the networks recently,
689
00:30:48,146 --> 00:30:50,448
and all of them want their money's worth.
690
00:30:50,515 --> 00:30:54,018
People began to find out that
news could be a profit center.
691
00:30:54,085 --> 00:30:56,187
And that focused a lot of attention on us.
692
00:30:56,254 --> 00:30:58,823
A lot from people in wall street, for instance.
693
00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:03,194
If you think about the news
divisions of CBS, nbc and abc,
694
00:31:03,261 --> 00:31:05,797
they were part of a really proud tradition,
695
00:31:05,863 --> 00:31:07,932
a journalistic tradition that really matters.
696
00:31:07,999 --> 00:31:09,000
We serve the public.
697
00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:11,236
This is not about profit and loss.
698
00:31:11,302 --> 00:31:13,304
And the people who worked at those news divisions
699
00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:16,074
were totally freaked out by what it meant
700
00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:19,677
that they were now owned by
these larger corporate entities.
701
00:31:19,744 --> 00:31:22,213
If the television news
isn't profitable at some point,
702
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,682
there won't be any more
television news on the networks.
703
00:31:24,749 --> 00:31:26,751
I worry about people
who are interested only in money
704
00:31:26,818 --> 00:31:28,620
and power getting ahold of television.
705
00:31:28,686 --> 00:31:30,555
It has higher purposes than that.
706
00:31:30,622 --> 00:31:33,157
We have seen the news and it is us.
707
00:31:44,402 --> 00:31:46,404
Sometimes ambition in a woman
708
00:31:46,471 --> 00:31:49,307
is considered to be a dirty word unfortunately.
709
00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:51,276
I don't hear a lot of female voices
710
00:31:51,342 --> 00:31:53,411
reverberating in the halls
of power in this business.
711
00:31:53,478 --> 00:31:55,647
Well I'm surprised there aren't
more shows about women
712
00:31:55,713 --> 00:31:57,315
that are talking about who they are.
713
00:31:57,382 --> 00:31:59,017
Directing seems to be an area
714
00:31:59,083 --> 00:32:01,552
that is almost impossible to break through.
715
00:32:01,619 --> 00:32:04,922
I think the '80s were the era
716
00:32:04,989 --> 00:32:07,959
when women were being looked at
717
00:32:08,026 --> 00:32:09,927
with a little skepticism,
718
00:32:09,994 --> 00:32:13,731
but definitely with more acceptability.
719
00:32:13,798 --> 00:32:19,537
You could see the door opening,
but it wasn't wide open.
720
00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:21,839
"Cagney & Lacey" was huge.
721
00:32:21,906 --> 00:32:24,709
That there would be two women
and they had a serious job
722
00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:27,245
and they solved crimes and they
were out on the streets.
723
00:32:27,312 --> 00:32:28,546
They were tough.
724
00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:31,649
That was emblematic or maybe out in front a little
725
00:32:31,716 --> 00:32:33,651
of what was actually happening in the country.
726
00:32:33,718 --> 00:32:36,988
So, we're a terrific team.
This is true.
727
00:32:37,055 --> 00:32:38,923
What do you say we go out and
celebrate how terrific we are?
728
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:42,493
There had been by that point
hundreds of buddy cop shows,
729
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,529
but these buddies were women.
730
00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:46,597
That had never been done before.
731
00:32:46,664 --> 00:32:49,500
I didn't go after this job
732
00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:51,602
because I couldn't find anything else.
733
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:54,272
All right? I did not come here
because I needed
734
00:32:54,339 --> 00:32:56,641
some kind of work to help pay the orthodontist.
735
00:32:56,708 --> 00:32:57,709
This means something to me.
736
00:32:57,775 --> 00:32:59,277
What the hell are we talking about here?
737
00:32:59,344 --> 00:33:02,380
We didn't even realize that this was gonna be
738
00:33:02,447 --> 00:33:05,950
such a big deal, and strangely,
739
00:33:06,017 --> 00:33:08,586
all these guys would say to us,
740
00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:10,588
"well yeah, I mean, it's a good script,
741
00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:13,091
but who's gonna save them in the end?"
742
00:33:13,157 --> 00:33:15,226
All right, come on.
We're taking you out of here.
743
00:33:15,293 --> 00:33:16,294
Come on.
744
00:33:16,361 --> 00:33:17,628
You're taking my wife?!
745
00:33:17,695 --> 00:33:20,198
You don't take one step.
You understand me?
746
00:33:20,264 --> 00:33:22,667
Sergeant Nelson, you have
until 8:00 tomorrow morning
747
00:33:22,734 --> 00:33:24,302
to turn yourself into iad.
748
00:33:24,369 --> 00:33:25,169
Phyllis!
749
00:33:25,236 --> 00:33:27,038
If you don't, I will.
750
00:33:27,105 --> 00:33:31,309
It was a time where you
really saw an emergence of women
751
00:33:31,376 --> 00:33:34,445
on television who were not necessarily
752
00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:38,015
just 20 and blond and had a small role.
753
00:33:38,082 --> 00:33:39,951
But women who had substantial roles.
754
00:33:48,326 --> 00:33:52,130
It was unpredictable that an audience,
755
00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:55,466
a young audience, a not so young audience
756
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:59,570
and lots in between could relate
to those older ladies.
757
00:33:59,637 --> 00:34:01,272
Ma, if you couldn't see,
758
00:34:01,339 --> 00:34:04,108
why didn't you call me to come get you?
759
00:34:04,175 --> 00:34:07,011
I tried to but every time
I put in a dime and dialed,
760
00:34:07,078 --> 00:34:08,913
a condom popped out.
761
00:34:12,817 --> 00:34:15,620
I got five in my pocket.
Here Dorothy.
762
00:34:17,088 --> 00:34:19,924
A lifetime supply.
763
00:34:19,991 --> 00:34:20,992
She was recently named
764
00:34:21,058 --> 00:34:22,460
along with Norman lear and Jim Brooks
765
00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:24,896
as one of television's
most gifted creator/writers.
766
00:34:24,962 --> 00:34:27,632
And when you look back
at the past women role models
767
00:34:27,698 --> 00:34:31,035
on television, well it's easy
to see Susan Harris' impact.
768
00:34:31,102 --> 00:34:34,505
Susan Harris was the
greatest writer, in my opinion,
769
00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:36,240
of her generation, of that time.
770
00:34:36,307 --> 00:34:38,242
Singularly, so, you know,
771
00:34:38,309 --> 00:34:40,845
all credit to her for coming up
with so many iterations
772
00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:42,613
of something so amazing.
773
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,217
Do you think there is
a woman's voice as a writer?
774
00:34:46,284 --> 00:34:49,086
Woman's voice - well generally
they speak higher, softer.
775
00:34:50,955 --> 00:34:52,256
I should have known not
to ask that of a writer.
776
00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:55,426
Yes, of course, there's a woman's voice.
777
00:34:55,493 --> 00:34:57,762
Women have a different perspective.
778
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:59,964
Women laugh at different things.
779
00:35:00,031 --> 00:35:02,667
So yes, they're very definitely
is a woman's voice.
780
00:35:02,733 --> 00:35:06,571
Oh, do you know how
many problems we have solved
781
00:35:06,637 --> 00:35:09,674
over a cheesecake at this kitchen table?
782
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:11,175
No, Dorothy, exactly how many?
783
00:35:11,242 --> 00:35:13,411
147, Rose!
784
00:35:13,478 --> 00:35:15,379
Oh.
785
00:35:15,446 --> 00:35:18,449
Hi Bryant.
It's cutthroat prime time time this fall
786
00:35:18,516 --> 00:35:20,218
as some 23 new shows compete
787
00:35:20,284 --> 00:35:22,787
in one of the hottest ratings races in years.
788
00:35:22,854 --> 00:35:25,556
Here's one just about everybody
predicts will be a big hit.
789
00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:27,692
"Designing women" on CBS.
790
00:35:27,758 --> 00:35:30,228
Four femmes forming
an interior decorating business
791
00:35:30,294 --> 00:35:31,963
and giving each other the business.
792
00:35:32,029 --> 00:35:34,031
Suzanne, if sex were fast food,
793
00:35:34,098 --> 00:35:38,503
there'd be an arch over your bed.
794
00:35:38,569 --> 00:35:42,073
Linda bloodworththomason
created one of the funniest,
795
00:35:42,139 --> 00:35:45,109
most unusual shows in "designing women."
796
00:35:45,176 --> 00:35:47,778
They were a different group of women
797
00:35:47,845 --> 00:35:50,815
than you really saw on television.
798
00:35:50,882 --> 00:35:53,417
They were feisty, they were sexy,
799
00:35:53,484 --> 00:35:58,489
and Linda's voice came through shining.
800
00:35:58,556 --> 00:36:00,491
A man can get away with anything.
801
00:36:00,558 --> 00:36:03,394
I mean, look at Reagan's neck.
It sags down to here.
802
00:36:03,461 --> 00:36:05,930
Everybody raves about how great he looks.
803
00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:08,366
Can you imagine if Nancy had that neck?
804
00:36:08,432 --> 00:36:11,068
They'd be putting her in
a nursing home for turkeys.
805
00:36:17,074 --> 00:36:18,609
They'd given me this 23 minutes
806
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:20,878
to address whatever topic I want.
807
00:36:20,945 --> 00:36:22,747
And it's such a privilege.
808
00:36:22,813 --> 00:36:24,649
It's more than the president
of the United States gets
809
00:36:24,715 --> 00:36:27,118
and it's kind of thrilling
to have that every week.
810
00:36:27,184 --> 00:36:30,187
I would lying if I said I didn't
put my opinions in the show.
811
00:36:30,254 --> 00:36:32,924
Excuse me, but you lovely ladies
look like you're in need
812
00:36:32,990 --> 00:36:35,126
of a little male companionship here.
813
00:36:35,192 --> 00:36:37,862
Trust me when I tell you
that you have completely
814
00:36:37,929 --> 00:36:40,331
misassessed the situation at this table.
815
00:36:40,398 --> 00:36:43,634
All right.
Moving onto scene b.
816
00:36:43,701 --> 00:36:45,870
I am a woman and I am a writer,
817
00:36:45,937 --> 00:36:50,308
but I don't really enjoy
being called a woman's writer.
818
00:36:50,374 --> 00:36:52,543
I think labels are harmful to us.
819
00:36:52,610 --> 00:36:54,412
With "Murphy brown,"
820
00:36:54,478 --> 00:36:58,249
just about everything about that program felt new.
821
00:36:58,316 --> 00:37:00,551
The civil rights movement and the women's movement
822
00:37:00,618 --> 00:37:04,522
had just begun to sort of be
reflected in the programming
823
00:37:04,589 --> 00:37:07,258
that you saw on television in the '80s.
824
00:37:07,325 --> 00:37:09,961
Murphy, you know the dunfries
club is for men only?
825
00:37:10,027 --> 00:37:12,296
And they have great dinners
with great guests
826
00:37:12,363 --> 00:37:15,366
and I don't get to go for
one reason and one reason only.
827
00:37:15,433 --> 00:37:19,103
And it has to do with something
you've got and I don't.
828
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:24,208
A tiny, pathetic, little y chromosome.
829
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:29,914
"Murphy brown" was sea change
because she was so popular
830
00:37:29,981 --> 00:37:33,250
and such a strong, independent, tough woman.
831
00:37:33,317 --> 00:37:35,519
No matter what you think
of a guest or their views,
832
00:37:35,586 --> 00:37:37,788
you are obligated to ask the
questions in a dignified manner.
833
00:37:37,855 --> 00:37:39,957
Jim, she was unprofessional, am I right?
834
00:37:40,024 --> 00:37:40,791
Well, I, uh...
835
00:37:40,858 --> 00:37:42,026
Do you believe this Jim?
836
00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:44,462
He thinks it's neat that
his office chair swivels
837
00:37:44,528 --> 00:37:46,430
and he's calling me unprofessional.
838
00:37:57,775 --> 00:38:00,611
You are in a good mood tonight.
839
00:38:00,678 --> 00:38:02,913
And I tell you, we have put
a great show together.
840
00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:04,849
It'll be on a week from Thursday.
841
00:38:06,517 --> 00:38:09,253
Johnny Carson in the
'80s is making the transition
842
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,755
from being the king of late night
843
00:38:10,821 --> 00:38:12,423
to being a national treasure.
844
00:38:12,490 --> 00:38:15,926
He was a throwback to that old show biz stuff.
845
00:38:15,993 --> 00:38:17,328
I haven't been on with you for some time.
846
00:38:17,395 --> 00:38:18,763
You, you've been...
It's been a long time.
847
00:38:18,829 --> 00:38:20,331
Yeah, well, you've been busy with other things.
848
00:38:20,398 --> 00:38:21,799
That's -
849
00:38:24,068 --> 00:38:27,038
The tide is starting to turn in terms of
850
00:38:27,104 --> 00:38:28,806
where latenight television is gonna go.
851
00:38:28,873 --> 00:38:30,741
But Johnny is kind of holding out.
852
00:38:30,808 --> 00:38:34,812
He was not necessarily of his time in the '80s.
853
00:38:34,879 --> 00:38:38,049
But he did sustain a certain timelessness.
854
00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:39,383
He's the king.
855
00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:40,885
On your chair.
856
00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:46,857
Whoa!
857
00:38:46,924 --> 00:38:49,360
Hyah!
858
00:38:49,427 --> 00:38:50,695
He's all right.
He's just playing.
859
00:38:50,761 --> 00:38:51,962
Playing my
860
00:38:53,764 --> 00:38:57,301
my next guest not only has a college degree,
861
00:38:57,368 --> 00:39:00,271
but he also has a highschool degree.
862
00:39:00,337 --> 00:39:01,038
That's right, I do.
863
00:39:01,105 --> 00:39:02,339
As well, unhuh.
864
00:39:01,105 --> 00:39:02,339
Yes.
865
00:39:02,406 --> 00:39:03,941
He's hosted "the tonight show"
practically as often
866
00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:07,411
as Johnny Carson and now
he has his very own show,
867
00:39:07,478 --> 00:39:11,082
weekday mornings at 10:00 on nbc.
868
00:39:11,148 --> 00:39:12,950
Ladies and gentleman
what you're witnessing here
869
00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:16,120
is a good idea gone awry.
870
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:18,022
Yes, and a funfilled surprise
871
00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:22,059
turning into an incredible
screw up right here.
872
00:39:22,126 --> 00:39:25,963
David letterman originally
had a onehour daytime show.
873
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:30,534
And nbc, after like 13 weeks, decided to cancel it.
874
00:39:30,601 --> 00:39:32,269
Today is our last show on the air.
875
00:39:32,336 --> 00:39:33,804
Monday, Las Vegas.
876
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:38,909
Have these people been frisked before they...
877
00:39:38,976 --> 00:39:41,512
It was a dismal failure
in terms of the ratings.
878
00:39:41,579 --> 00:39:44,749
But not in terms of introducing us to letterman.
879
00:39:44,815 --> 00:39:46,751
David, thank you for being with us tonight.
880
00:39:46,817 --> 00:39:48,719
Thank you very much for
having me, I appreciate it.
881
00:39:48,786 --> 00:39:50,621
And in spite of all this nonsense
882
00:39:50,688 --> 00:39:53,157
that goes around in
the background, stay with it.
883
00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,092
Don't give up. And stay with us
here in New York.
884
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:56,127
We like having you.
885
00:39:56,193 --> 00:39:57,495
I like being here.
Thank you very much.
886
00:39:57,561 --> 00:40:00,865
Dave is back in New York.
You're going to host
887
00:40:00,931 --> 00:40:04,568
a latenight television program
that premieres Monday night.
888
00:40:04,635 --> 00:40:07,238
What are, what are critics
likely to say Tuesday morning?
889
00:40:07,304 --> 00:40:10,474
I don't much care because I
found a way to deal with that -
890
00:40:10,541 --> 00:40:11,475
pills and whiskey.
891
00:40:16,981 --> 00:40:18,249
You're on.
892
00:40:18,315 --> 00:40:21,051
Oh, I'm on. I'm sorry, I was
enjoying listening to you snort.
893
00:40:22,853 --> 00:40:26,524
They gave him the "late night"
show after "the tonight show,"
894
00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:27,892
and at the time, people thought,
895
00:40:27,958 --> 00:40:30,728
who's gonna watch television at 12:30 at night?
896
00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:32,329
Who's up?
I'll tell you who's up.
897
00:40:32,396 --> 00:40:34,532
Young people.
College people.
898
00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:36,500
Is it going well?
I know this is the first show
899
00:40:36,567 --> 00:40:38,169
and I think this guy
needs a little support.
900
00:40:38,235 --> 00:40:39,370
Dave letterman.
901
00:40:39,436 --> 00:40:41,906
He was antiestablishment at his core.
902
00:40:41,972 --> 00:40:46,744
He was thumbing his nose to
any existing social structures.
903
00:40:46,811 --> 00:40:48,679
Who are those women out there, by the way?
904
00:40:46,811 --> 00:40:48,679
Neighbors.
905
00:40:48,746 --> 00:40:52,850
I'll get rid of them.
Hey, excuse me.
906
00:40:52,917 --> 00:40:56,687
Just keep it moving, come on.
907
00:40:56,754 --> 00:41:01,025
He kind of spoofed
the whole notion of talk shows.
908
00:41:01,091 --> 00:41:02,960
It's the "late night" guest cam.
909
00:41:03,027 --> 00:41:05,963
Please say hello to Tom Hanks.
Here he is.
910
00:41:07,798 --> 00:41:10,267
No one can go on the "David letterman show"
911
00:41:10,334 --> 00:41:12,903
and try to steer it towards a point of view
912
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:14,471
or push something in particular.
913
00:41:14,538 --> 00:41:15,973
He just wouldn't stand for it.
914
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,875
You're on to do one thing and one thing only -
915
00:41:17,942 --> 00:41:19,643
be as funny as the rest of the show.
916
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:22,112
You know, we could get in
a two shot here, Dave.
917
00:41:22,179 --> 00:41:24,548
We could actually send
the crew home, couldn't we?
918
00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:29,119
You know, as a comedian,
919
00:41:29,186 --> 00:41:31,255
you want the biggest audience
that you could get.
920
00:41:31,322 --> 00:41:33,057
For Dave, he knew a lot of things
921
00:41:33,123 --> 00:41:35,559
that he would do were gonna alienate people.
922
00:41:35,626 --> 00:41:36,460
And he didn't care.
923
00:41:36,527 --> 00:41:38,062
He wanted his thumbprint out there
924
00:41:38,128 --> 00:41:40,197
and that's the most important thing.
925
00:41:40,264 --> 00:41:43,067
It's time for "small town news."
Paul?
926
00:41:43,133 --> 00:41:44,869
Excuse me. Paul?
Do you have any -
927
00:41:44,935 --> 00:41:46,337
do you have any accompanying music here
928
00:41:46,403 --> 00:41:48,839
for "small town news"?
929
00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:51,008
Paul shaffer, ladies and gentlemen.
930
00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:53,711
The show making fun
of itself and turning itself
931
00:41:53,777 --> 00:41:57,214
inside out that way was something kind of new.
932
00:41:57,281 --> 00:41:58,649
I mean, don't we look like guys
933
00:41:58,716 --> 00:41:59,950
that you'd see hanging around together?
934
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:01,685
Absolutely.
935
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:01,685
Would you like to hang around with me?
936
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:01,685
Absolutely.
937
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:01,685
Would you like to hang around with me?
938
00:42:01,752 --> 00:42:02,853
Nope.
939
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,089
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
940
00:42:05,155 --> 00:42:07,858
This is the stupidest show I've...
941
00:42:07,925 --> 00:42:10,394
I thought that I would never
want to do this show with you.
942
00:42:10,461 --> 00:42:11,362
Now why?
943
00:42:11,428 --> 00:42:13,330
Because you thought I was a...
944
00:42:13,397 --> 00:42:14,565
An
945
00:42:16,233 --> 00:42:19,904
there's one rule I keep trying to abide by
946
00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:23,407
and unfortunately I only get
to it about 12% of the time.
947
00:42:23,474 --> 00:42:25,976
And that is, it's only television.
948
00:42:26,043 --> 00:42:28,479
We're not doing cancer research.
949
00:42:28,545 --> 00:42:31,448
If the 40 yearodd history
of commercial broadcasting
950
00:42:31,515 --> 00:42:34,618
has taught us one thing, there's
nothing sacred about television.
951
00:42:34,685 --> 00:42:36,587
All right.
Steven is upstairs.
952
00:42:40,057 --> 00:42:41,358
Hey Dave, I was just curious,
953
00:42:41,425 --> 00:42:43,694
is there any way I can get mtv on this...
954
00:42:43,761 --> 00:42:46,330
Actually, Steve, that's a -
that's just a monitor
955
00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:48,399
and all you can get on that is our show.
956
00:42:48,465 --> 00:42:50,434
Oh.
That's okay.
957
00:42:50,501 --> 00:42:53,470
There was a degree of cynicism
958
00:42:53,537 --> 00:42:55,739
that was needed in the art form at that time.
959
00:42:55,806 --> 00:42:56,941
And it's a cynicism
960
00:42:57,007 --> 00:42:59,276
that just became common sense after a while.
961
00:42:59,343 --> 00:43:00,477
Because it never got old.
962
00:43:00,544 --> 00:43:03,147
I've watched Johnny Carson,
963
00:43:03,213 --> 00:43:06,317
and you are no Johnny Carson.
964
00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:14,625
Good day, welcome to the great
white north Canadian corner.
965
00:43:14,692 --> 00:43:16,260
I'm Bob McKenzie, this is my brother Doug.
966
00:43:16,327 --> 00:43:19,163
And today we got a real big show
'cause we got a...
967
00:43:19,229 --> 00:43:20,931
There was a second city Chicago company,
968
00:43:20,998 --> 00:43:23,334
there was a second city Toronto company.
969
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,504
The Toronto one is the one
that fueled the sctv series,
970
00:43:27,571 --> 00:43:31,108
which originally was syndicated
and got to the states that way.
971
00:43:31,175 --> 00:43:33,844
Hail Caesar!
972
00:43:33,911 --> 00:43:35,079
Hail, hail.
973
00:43:35,145 --> 00:43:36,780
Thank you very much for
that marvelous reception.
974
00:43:36,847 --> 00:43:39,383
I particularly want to thank
my supporters over there
975
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:41,952
in the caesarian section.
976
00:43:42,019 --> 00:43:45,422
It's healthy to be an outsider,
you know, as a comedian.
977
00:43:45,489 --> 00:43:48,258
And Canadian are always outsiders
978
00:43:48,325 --> 00:43:50,761
but they're looking at the other culture,
979
00:43:50,828 --> 00:43:52,663
which is right next door to them.
980
00:43:52,730 --> 00:43:55,366
I love you Sammy maudlin!
I want to bear your children!
981
00:43:56,867 --> 00:44:02,139
It was the type of comedy
that had only been accessible
982
00:44:02,206 --> 00:44:04,308
if you could have gotten into
the improv clubs
983
00:44:04,375 --> 00:44:05,909
in Chicago or Toronto.
984
00:44:05,976 --> 00:44:08,879
I had never seen anything like second city TV.
985
00:44:08,946 --> 00:44:10,748
James bridgeman, parkdale.
986
00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:14,818
Sorry, no, never mind.
I'm sorry.
987
00:44:14,885 --> 00:44:17,955
It was far more conceptual in its humor
988
00:44:18,022 --> 00:44:19,790
because it didn't have to be performed
989
00:44:19,857 --> 00:44:21,291
in front of an audience.
990
00:44:21,358 --> 00:44:23,460
And there was also just the idea
991
00:44:23,527 --> 00:44:26,597
that it was this sort of lowrent thing.
992
00:44:26,663 --> 00:44:28,832
It was this sort of by the seat of their pants
993
00:44:28,899 --> 00:44:32,936
kind of operation that gave it an authenticity.
994
00:44:33,003 --> 00:44:35,139
Now that our programming day has been extended,
995
00:44:35,205 --> 00:44:36,540
I'm gonna be spending a lot...
996
00:44:36,607 --> 00:44:39,109
Where do you want me to
put the kielbasa Mrs. Prickley?
997
00:44:39,176 --> 00:44:40,411
Put it in the fridge, butch.
998
00:44:40,477 --> 00:44:42,112
You were rooting for the show
999
00:44:42,179 --> 00:44:43,981
and the characters that they had created.
1000
00:44:44,048 --> 00:44:47,384
There was just something that you got behind.
1001
00:44:47,451 --> 00:44:49,486
Whereas, you know, "snl" right from the -
1002
00:44:49,553 --> 00:44:52,523
from the gate and through the '80s
1003
00:44:52,589 --> 00:44:55,559
was this big enterprise.
1004
00:44:55,626 --> 00:44:57,828
After five golden years,
1005
00:44:57,895 --> 00:45:01,231
lorne decided to leave
and so did those close to him,
1006
00:45:01,298 --> 00:45:05,235
including me, al franken.
1007
00:45:05,302 --> 00:45:08,172
So nbc had to pick a new producer.
1008
00:45:08,238 --> 00:45:10,874
Now most knowledgeable people,
as you might imagine,
1009
00:45:10,941 --> 00:45:14,812
hoped it would be me, al franken.
1010
00:45:14,878 --> 00:45:16,146
There was a real question
1011
00:45:16,213 --> 00:45:18,215
of whether "Saturday night live"
would continue at all
1012
00:45:18,282 --> 00:45:19,650
or whether it would just die.
1013
00:45:19,716 --> 00:45:21,585
The press hasn't been overly kind.
1014
00:45:21,652 --> 00:45:23,087
Yeah, I read that stuff.
1015
00:45:23,153 --> 00:45:24,988
"Saturday night live" is Saturday night dead.
1016
00:45:25,055 --> 00:45:27,558
Oh, man, come on. Geez.
1017
00:45:27,624 --> 00:45:29,059
From yucks to yech.
1018
00:45:30,294 --> 00:45:32,229
My favorite, though, is "vile from New York."
1019
00:45:32,296 --> 00:45:33,430
Please, bill, come on.
1020
00:45:33,497 --> 00:45:34,898
It's funny, it's funny.
1021
00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:36,400
They were having a hard time
1022
00:45:36,467 --> 00:45:39,203
and then came the man that saved
the show, Eddie Murphy.
1023
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,442
There was buzz about him so you tuned in
1024
00:45:45,509 --> 00:45:48,412
and there was this kind of explosion of talent
1025
00:45:48,479 --> 00:45:49,680
in front of your eyes.
1026
00:45:49,746 --> 00:45:52,349
Hey!
Too hot in the hot tub!
1027
00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:54,418
Burn myself!
1028
00:45:54,485 --> 00:45:57,020
It really kind of rejuvenated the show.
1029
00:45:57,087 --> 00:46:00,257
I am gumby, damn it!
You don't talk to me that way.
1030
00:46:00,324 --> 00:46:01,959
After a while,
1031
00:46:02,025 --> 00:46:04,094
the show regained its status and its clout
1032
00:46:04,161 --> 00:46:07,064
and became even more of
an institution than it had been.
1033
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:08,132
Hey Bob.
1034
00:46:08,198 --> 00:46:11,268
Hey, penis looks great today.
1035
00:46:11,335 --> 00:46:13,504
Listen, Harry, if you're unhappy
with my work, tell me now!
1036
00:46:13,570 --> 00:46:14,872
You're through, do you hear me?
1037
00:46:14,938 --> 00:46:16,573
Through!
You'll never work in this town again.
1038
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,674
Don't leave me hanging by a thread!
1039
00:46:17,741 --> 00:46:19,076
Let me know where I stand!
1040
00:46:19,143 --> 00:46:22,746
We were a little worried at
first because we had a new cast,
1041
00:46:22,813 --> 00:46:24,114
but everyone loves us.
1042
00:46:24,181 --> 00:46:26,517
You guys have been so nice
to us during our stay.
1043
00:46:26,583 --> 00:46:28,018
Isn't that special?
1044
00:46:28,085 --> 00:46:29,520
I am hans.
1045
00:46:29,586 --> 00:46:33,457
And I am Franz. And we just
want to pump you up!
1046
00:46:33,524 --> 00:46:35,325
A lot of things that they could do
1047
00:46:35,392 --> 00:46:38,762
on "Saturday night live"
they couldn't do on a sitcom.
1048
00:46:38,829 --> 00:46:43,767
The humor was more daring and more satirical.
1049
00:46:43,834 --> 00:46:45,269
And it was political.
1050
00:46:45,335 --> 00:46:49,540
You still have, uh, 50 seconds
left Mr. Vice president.
1051
00:46:49,606 --> 00:46:53,911
Well let me just sum up, on track,
1052
00:46:53,977 --> 00:46:58,282
stay the course, a thousand points of light.
1053
00:46:58,348 --> 00:46:59,550
Stay the course.
1054
00:46:59,616 --> 00:47:02,085
Governor dukakis, rebuttal?
1055
00:47:02,152 --> 00:47:04,188
I can't believe I'm losing to this guy.
1056
00:47:07,057 --> 00:47:08,325
I'll get it.
Oh, geez.
1057
00:47:08,392 --> 00:47:09,793
It's garry shandling's show.
1058
00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:12,229
People were taking all
the old principles of comedy
1059
00:47:12,296 --> 00:47:14,298
and trying to turn them
into something new.
1060
00:47:14,364 --> 00:47:17,568
We spent years and years
watching sitcoms and dramas
1061
00:47:17,634 --> 00:47:18,735
and talk shows by then.
1062
00:47:18,802 --> 00:47:20,904
We knew them by heart that if somebody
1063
00:47:20,971 --> 00:47:23,707
played on that and parodied it,
we got it instantly.
1064
00:47:23,774 --> 00:47:26,443
Yeah, I appreciate you coming in
under these conditions Lewis.
1065
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:28,879
I really do. You want to hold the credits.
1066
00:47:28,946 --> 00:47:30,914
Okay.
Now, see, we were gonna show the credits
1067
00:47:30,981 --> 00:47:32,015
and you screwed that up, okay?
1068
00:47:32,082 --> 00:47:34,017
'Cause you're late.
1069
00:47:34,084 --> 00:47:37,321
"The garry shandling show"
was aware of the fact
1070
00:47:37,387 --> 00:47:39,122
that it was a situation comedy.
1071
00:47:40,424 --> 00:47:43,660
It highlighted the cliches in funny ways.
1072
00:47:43,727 --> 00:47:45,262
Are you looking into the camera?
1073
00:47:45,329 --> 00:47:46,797
No.
1074
00:47:46,863 --> 00:47:47,831
No, I didn't.
1075
00:47:47,898 --> 00:47:48,832
Don't - don't look into the camera.
1076
00:47:48,899 --> 00:47:49,499
I didn't.
1077
00:47:48,899 --> 00:47:49,499
Don't.
1078
00:47:49,566 --> 00:47:50,734
I didn't.
1079
00:47:50,801 --> 00:47:52,002
You don't come in here
and look in the camera.
1080
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:53,470
I didn't.
1081
00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:56,106
I'll bop you.
1082
00:47:56,173 --> 00:47:58,442
I will, if I see a tape of this show...
1083
00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:01,511
...and you're looking into the c-
1084
00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:05,916
well, it's about that time.
1085
00:48:05,983 --> 00:48:07,618
"Peewee's playhouse" on CBS,
1086
00:48:07,684 --> 00:48:09,686
a socalled Saturday morning kids show
1087
00:48:09,753 --> 00:48:12,122
that adults could watch and wink at each other
1088
00:48:12,189 --> 00:48:14,124
as they were watching it.
It was very clever.
1089
00:48:14,191 --> 00:48:15,525
Haha!
Morning conky.
1090
00:48:15,592 --> 00:48:16,827
What's today's secret word?
1091
00:48:18,395 --> 00:48:20,864
Today's secret word is good!
1092
00:48:20,931 --> 00:48:24,534
It was a show certainly for kids
1093
00:48:24,601 --> 00:48:27,871
and it was for stoned baby boomers
1094
00:48:27,938 --> 00:48:31,174
who were totally wasted on Saturday morning
1095
00:48:31,241 --> 00:48:33,277
and watched "peewee's playhouse"
1096
00:48:33,343 --> 00:48:34,177
and saw god.
1097
00:48:34,244 --> 00:48:35,679
I sure had a lot of fun.
1098
00:48:35,746 --> 00:48:37,281
See you all real soon.
1099
00:48:37,347 --> 00:48:40,117
Until then, everybody be good!
1100
00:48:40,183 --> 00:48:41,485
Haha!
1101
00:48:54,231 --> 00:48:57,567
1968, the summer before junior high school.
1102
00:48:57,634 --> 00:49:02,773
And I don't mind saying I was
a pretty fair little athlete.
1103
00:49:02,839 --> 00:49:06,143
"The wonder years"
was a guy in modern times
1104
00:49:06,209 --> 00:49:08,011
looking back on his childhood.
1105
00:49:08,078 --> 00:49:09,646
That in itself is not new,
1106
00:49:09,713 --> 00:49:13,317
but "the wonder years" did it
with a wit and with the music.
1107
00:49:13,383 --> 00:49:17,888
It was a brilliantly written
show and a great performance
1108
00:49:17,954 --> 00:49:19,623
by that entire young cast.
1109
00:49:19,690 --> 00:49:20,924
Hey, Steve.
1110
00:49:20,991 --> 00:49:22,626
It looks like my baby brother
1111
00:49:22,693 --> 00:49:25,128
and his girlfriend have found each other.
1112
00:49:26,063 --> 00:49:28,031
She's not my girlfriend.
1113
00:49:28,098 --> 00:49:31,201
Kevin Arnold has to cope
with all the timeless problems
1114
00:49:31,268 --> 00:49:33,136
of growing up during
one of the most turbulent times
1115
00:49:33,203 --> 00:49:34,438
that we have known.
1116
00:49:34,504 --> 00:49:37,574
Kevin Arnold is just like a regular kid
1117
00:49:37,641 --> 00:49:39,242
except in the 1960s.
1118
00:49:39,309 --> 00:49:42,713
And he's not really aware
of many of the events.
1119
00:49:42,779 --> 00:49:44,348
Like in one of the episodes,
1120
00:49:44,414 --> 00:49:47,751
the whole family's watching
the Apollo 8 take off.
1121
00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:50,587
But I'm just sitting there
trying to call a girl.
1122
00:49:50,654 --> 00:49:53,323
The first episode
of "the wonder years,"
1123
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:56,460
anybody who saw it remembers the ending
1124
00:49:56,526 --> 00:49:59,096
where, you know -
the first kiss
1125
00:49:59,162 --> 00:50:01,231
with winnie and Kevin Arnold.
1126
00:50:01,298 --> 00:50:04,101
The song that they play
is "when a man loves a woman."
1127
00:50:04,167 --> 00:50:08,438
That moment seemed so pure and so real.
1128
00:50:16,513 --> 00:50:19,349
The tone of the baby boomers
of the 1960s is about rebellion,
1129
00:50:19,416 --> 00:50:20,650
about being students.
1130
00:50:20,717 --> 00:50:22,886
By the 1980s, it's time to grow up.
1131
00:50:22,953 --> 00:50:25,188
And so they shave their beards,
1132
00:50:25,255 --> 00:50:27,891
give up their dashikis,
and they put on power suits -
1133
00:50:27,958 --> 00:50:28,859
a whole new notion.
1134
00:50:28,925 --> 00:50:30,260
Ah, the yuppies.
1135
00:50:30,327 --> 00:50:31,428
Last year the politicians
1136
00:50:31,495 --> 00:50:33,063
were all talking about winning their votes.
1137
00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:35,031
Now those young, urban professionals
1138
00:50:35,098 --> 00:50:37,334
and the rest of their baby boom generation
1139
00:50:37,401 --> 00:50:40,137
are being wooed by advertisers
and their agencies.
1140
00:50:40,203 --> 00:50:41,538
By the '80s,
1141
00:50:41,605 --> 00:50:43,874
it was pretty clear that the generation
1142
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:45,575
after the generation of the '60s
1143
00:50:45,642 --> 00:50:48,745
may be embodied by Alex Keaton
on "family ties."
1144
00:50:48,812 --> 00:50:51,114
Soon to be a lot more interested
in the corner office
1145
00:50:51,181 --> 00:50:52,849
than the new Jerusalem.
1146
00:50:52,916 --> 00:50:54,117
You're a young man.
1147
00:50:54,184 --> 00:50:56,620
You shouldn't be worried about success.
1148
00:50:56,686 --> 00:50:59,656
You should be thinking about
hopping on a tramp steamer
1149
00:50:59,723 --> 00:51:01,191
and going around the world.
1150
00:51:01,258 --> 00:51:03,860
The '60s are over, dad.
1151
00:51:03,927 --> 00:51:05,362
Thanks for the tip.
1152
00:51:05,429 --> 00:51:09,065
You weren't laughing
at Michael j. Fox's character
1153
00:51:09,132 --> 00:51:10,567
for being too conservative.
1154
00:51:10,634 --> 00:51:13,570
You were actually laughing at the parents
1155
00:51:13,637 --> 00:51:16,006
for being too hopelessly liberal.
1156
00:51:16,072 --> 00:51:18,742
What is this?
I found it in the shower.
1157
00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:20,811
That's generic brand shampoo.
1158
00:51:20,877 --> 00:51:22,412
Ah!
1159
00:51:22,479 --> 00:51:26,149
This is him. This is the guy
I've been telling you about.
1160
00:51:26,216 --> 00:51:28,285
This is everything you'd want in a president.
1161
00:51:28,351 --> 00:51:30,720
The genius of "family ties" is it allows
1162
00:51:30,787 --> 00:51:32,889
a kind of youthful reaganite to emerge
1163
00:51:32,956 --> 00:51:34,191
that's focused more on the future,
1164
00:51:34,257 --> 00:51:36,326
that's focused more on
the a critique of the '60s.
1165
00:51:36,393 --> 00:51:39,796
Michael j. Fox as Alex Keaton
1166
00:51:39,863 --> 00:51:43,266
really became the center of the show.
1167
00:51:43,333 --> 00:51:46,803
And writers were smart enough to see
1168
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:51,074
that they had something special
and they wrote to that.
1169
00:51:51,141 --> 00:51:53,210
It's not fair, Alex.
1170
00:51:53,276 --> 00:51:54,344
Yeah.
1171
00:51:54,411 --> 00:51:56,246
There's nothing you can do about it, Jen.
1172
00:51:56,313 --> 00:51:59,249
My advice to you is that you just enjoy
1173
00:51:59,316 --> 00:52:01,718
being a child for as long as you can.
1174
00:52:01,785 --> 00:52:03,553
I know I did.
1175
00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:06,022
It's the best two weeks of my life.
1176
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:09,493
Alex is a little bill Buckley.
1177
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:12,128
He - the wall street journal is his Bible.
1178
00:52:13,196 --> 00:52:15,031
He has a tie to go with his pajamas.
1179
00:52:15,098 --> 00:52:19,169
He's very conservative
and a very intense 17yearold.
1180
00:52:19,236 --> 00:52:20,804
Now the first thing your teacher's gonna ask
1181
00:52:20,871 --> 00:52:22,138
is what you did over the summer.
1182
00:52:22,205 --> 00:52:24,274
Now, a lot of kids are gonna
say, I went to the zoo.
1183
00:52:24,341 --> 00:52:26,776
Or I went to the beach.
Or I went to a baseball game.
1184
00:52:26,843 --> 00:52:27,777
What are you gonna say?
1185
00:52:27,844 --> 00:52:29,946
I watched the Iran contra hearings.
1186
00:52:31,481 --> 00:52:34,251
If mom and dad thought this generation
1187
00:52:34,317 --> 00:52:36,253
was going to the dogs, think again.
1188
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:37,754
This is the generation
1189
00:52:37,821 --> 00:52:40,056
that has discovered hard work and success.
1190
00:52:40,123 --> 00:52:42,259
American culture is changing in the '80s.
1191
00:52:42,325 --> 00:52:43,560
And in terms of television,
1192
00:52:43,627 --> 00:52:45,428
there's a whole notion
of demographic segmentation.
1193
00:52:45,495 --> 00:52:49,633
Networks were beginning to not be afraid
1194
00:52:49,699 --> 00:52:53,470
to appeal to a very specific demographic.
1195
00:52:53,537 --> 00:52:56,206
Hi, handsome.
Look at that shirt.
1196
00:52:56,273 --> 00:52:57,474
Is that a power shirt or what?
1197
00:52:57,541 --> 00:52:59,709
Nice suit Ellen, good shoulder pads.
1198
00:52:59,776 --> 00:53:01,444
You looking to get drafted by the eagles?
1199
00:53:02,846 --> 00:53:04,881
"Thirtysomething" said,
we're not gonna have cops,
1200
00:53:04,948 --> 00:53:05,916
lawyers, or doctors.
1201
00:53:05,982 --> 00:53:07,183
We're just gonna be about people.
1202
00:53:07,250 --> 00:53:09,953
What are we doing here?
Why did we start this business?
1203
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:11,454
To do our thing.
1204
00:53:11,521 --> 00:53:13,356
But right now we got two wives,
1205
00:53:13,423 --> 00:53:16,092
three kids, four cars,
1206
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:18,161
two mortgages, a payroll.
1207
00:53:18,228 --> 00:53:19,629
And that's life, pal.
1208
00:53:19,696 --> 00:53:21,565
You be the breadwinner now.
1209
00:53:21,631 --> 00:53:23,600
Is that what I am?
1210
00:53:23,667 --> 00:53:25,802
"Thirtysomething" is a very important show
1211
00:53:25,869 --> 00:53:28,872
as you're going into this era of television
1212
00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:30,607
being more introspective and more emotional.
1213
00:53:30,674 --> 00:53:32,075
And some people weren't buying it.
1214
00:53:32,142 --> 00:53:34,210
But for other people, when they
were talking about things
1215
00:53:34,277 --> 00:53:37,614
like having kids and who
was gonna go back to work
1216
00:53:37,681 --> 00:53:39,482
and some of these issues
that hadn't been talked about
1217
00:53:39,549 --> 00:53:41,651
a whole lot, it was important to people.
1218
00:53:44,654 --> 00:53:46,323
I was so looking forward -
1219
00:53:46,389 --> 00:53:49,526
I was so looking forward to doing this,
1220
00:53:49,593 --> 00:53:52,228
to be a grownup for just an hour.
1221
00:53:52,295 --> 00:53:55,465
In the beginning,
there was talk of this being
1222
00:53:55,532 --> 00:53:57,500
the yuppie show
and you mentioned it tonight.
1223
00:53:57,567 --> 00:53:59,336
Youyou said
that if there were a category
1224
00:53:59,402 --> 00:54:01,738
for the most annoying show,
this might win as well.
1225
00:54:01,805 --> 00:54:03,707
No, what some people
perceive as annoying
1226
00:54:03,773 --> 00:54:04,908
has nothing to do with yuppie.
1227
00:54:04,975 --> 00:54:07,277
I think yuppie is a word
made up by demographers
1228
00:54:07,344 --> 00:54:08,712
and advertisers to sell soap.
1229
00:54:08,778 --> 00:54:10,947
I don't think it has anything
to do with what the show is.
1230
00:54:11,014 --> 00:54:14,150
"Thirtysomething" was not a giant hit.
1231
00:54:14,217 --> 00:54:17,087
But it was a niche hit.
1232
00:54:17,153 --> 00:54:20,890
It attracted an enormously
upscale group of advertisers.
1233
00:54:20,957 --> 00:54:23,226
The network cared who was watching,
1234
00:54:23,293 --> 00:54:24,661
not how many were watching.
1235
00:54:24,728 --> 00:54:26,930
And that was more and more
catching on in the '80s.
1236
00:54:29,933 --> 00:54:32,435
The prosecution will
ask you that you look to the law
1237
00:54:32,502 --> 00:54:35,505
and this you must do.
1238
00:54:35,572 --> 00:54:39,275
But I ask of you that you
look to your hearts as well.
1239
00:54:39,342 --> 00:54:40,610
Thank you.
1240
00:54:40,677 --> 00:54:44,280
"L.A. law" was partly a classic lawyer show.
1241
00:54:44,347 --> 00:54:46,716
But it was intertwined
with their personal lives
1242
00:54:46,783 --> 00:54:48,718
and different lawyers
who were sleeping together
1243
00:54:48,785 --> 00:54:50,754
and trying to get ahead.
1244
00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:52,722
The reality level on that show
1245
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:54,958
was like a foot or two off the ground.
1246
00:54:55,025 --> 00:54:57,260
And you were willing to go with that
1247
00:54:57,327 --> 00:54:59,829
because it was a whole new spin
on a law show.
1248
00:54:59,896 --> 00:55:01,364
Unhunh, tell the truth.
1249
00:55:01,431 --> 00:55:03,466
If you had to do it all over again
1250
00:55:03,533 --> 00:55:05,201
and she walked into your office and she said,
1251
00:55:05,268 --> 00:55:06,636
take my case, would you?
1252
00:55:06,703 --> 00:55:08,104
Well...
1253
00:55:08,171 --> 00:55:12,776
Of course you would, because it
is juicy, newsy, exciting stuff.
1254
00:55:12,842 --> 00:55:14,277
It was really fun
1255
00:55:14,344 --> 00:55:17,280
to take the "hill street blues" format
1256
00:55:17,347 --> 00:55:20,583
and use it to frame
1257
00:55:20,650 --> 00:55:25,088
an entirely different
social and cultural strata
1258
00:55:25,155 --> 00:55:27,490
with vastly different results.
1259
00:55:27,557 --> 00:55:31,094
I wonder if I might engage
with my client privately.
1260
00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:32,395
Certainly.
1261
00:55:32,462 --> 00:55:36,833
What are you doing for dinner tonight?
1262
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:39,669
I was planning on having you.
1263
00:55:39,736 --> 00:55:42,105
In that case, skip lunch.
1264
00:55:42,172 --> 00:55:44,841
The formula had gotten established
1265
00:55:44,908 --> 00:55:46,810
of how you can do a dramatic show
1266
00:55:46,876 --> 00:55:49,579
and yet still have an awful lot of fun.
1267
00:55:49,646 --> 00:55:52,482
We didn't used to be able
to accept that very easily
1268
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:53,883
in a TV hour.
1269
00:55:53,950 --> 00:55:56,152
And even before the '80s are out,
1270
00:55:56,219 --> 00:55:57,620
it's like, "oh, okay, I get it.
1271
00:55:57,687 --> 00:55:59,923
You know, so it's like, all
right, what are the rules now?"
1272
00:55:59,989 --> 00:56:01,291
What are you doing?
I'm doing what I
1273
00:56:01,357 --> 00:56:02,892
should have done all along.
...Should have done all along.
1274
00:56:02,959 --> 00:56:04,327
What I wanted to do originally.
...Do originally.
1275
00:56:04,394 --> 00:56:05,161
What I should have done
1276
00:56:05,228 --> 00:56:06,029
last night.
1277
00:56:05,228 --> 00:56:06,029
...last night.
1278
00:56:06,096 --> 00:56:07,297
Stop that David!
Stop that David!
1279
00:56:07,363 --> 00:56:09,866
I'm calling the police, David!
...The police, David!
1280
00:56:11,134 --> 00:56:12,402
Hello, police?
1281
00:56:12,469 --> 00:56:14,971
The networks realized there was an audience
1282
00:56:15,038 --> 00:56:16,873
looking for something less predictable
1283
00:56:16,940 --> 00:56:18,808
than traditional primetime fare.
1284
00:56:20,243 --> 00:56:21,745
"Moonlighting" was another of those shows
1285
00:56:21,811 --> 00:56:23,646
that said, "okay, I see the formulas
1286
00:56:23,713 --> 00:56:24,814
that we've had up to here.
1287
00:56:24,881 --> 00:56:26,950
Let's do different things.
1288
00:56:30,019 --> 00:56:30,787
Hello.
1289
00:56:30,854 --> 00:56:32,155
Hello.
1290
00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:34,457
We're looking a little
"pale" today, aren't we?
1291
00:56:34,524 --> 00:56:36,092
And who have we here?
I don't know.
1292
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:39,262
Moonlighting was a really
experimental show.
1293
00:56:39,329 --> 00:56:41,164
They had a Shakespeare episode.
1294
00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:43,133
They had a black and white episode.
1295
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,001
They did a musical episode.
1296
00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:46,870
They tried a lot of different stuff.
1297
00:56:46,936 --> 00:56:50,273
I don't give a flying fig
about the lines in my face,
1298
00:56:50,340 --> 00:56:53,710
the crow's feet by my eyes,
or the altitude of my caboose.
1299
00:56:53,777 --> 00:56:56,713
Well, I'm at a loss.
1300
00:56:56,780 --> 00:56:58,681
I don't know what a flying fig is.
1301
00:56:58,748 --> 00:57:01,818
That's okay, they do.
1302
00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,889
There's no trouble on the set.
There is no trouble on the set.
1303
00:57:05,955 --> 00:57:08,625
Well, we have a very volatile relationship.
1304
00:57:08,691 --> 00:57:10,927
There is a hate/love element to it.
1305
00:57:10,994 --> 00:57:12,495
Easy come, easy go!
Ha!
1306
00:57:12,562 --> 00:57:13,530
The flirtations were great,
1307
00:57:13,596 --> 00:57:15,265
and Bruce and cybill were great.
1308
00:57:15,331 --> 00:57:17,801
Glenn caron kept them apart
for a long time.
1309
00:57:17,867 --> 00:57:20,003
And bravo to him.
1310
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:23,506
What they did was they took
the Sam and Diane dynamic
1311
00:57:23,573 --> 00:57:25,775
from "cheers" and escalated it.
1312
00:57:25,842 --> 00:57:27,677
"Cheers" was,
"will they or won't they?"
1313
00:57:27,744 --> 00:57:30,613
"Moonlighting" was, "do they even want to?"
1314
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,215
Stay away from me.
1315
00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:33,750
Here I come.
1316
00:57:33,817 --> 00:57:36,252
But I don't want you.
I never wanted you.
1317
00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:37,353
Yeah, right.
1318
00:57:37,821 --> 00:57:41,224
Does entertaining mean
at some point stopping the tease
1319
00:57:41,291 --> 00:57:42,325
of Dave and maddie?
1320
00:57:42,392 --> 00:57:43,726
I mean, do they get together at some point?
1321
00:57:43,793 --> 00:57:46,029
I hope so. Well, that, that's
gonna be resolved this year.
1322
00:57:46,095 --> 00:57:48,264
We like to think of it as two
and a half years of foreplay.
1323
00:57:48,865 --> 00:57:50,133
People who had been watching
1324
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,836
"moonlighting" for years
were waiting for this moment.
1325
00:57:52,902 --> 00:57:54,537
And your emotions are already there,
1326
00:57:54,604 --> 00:57:57,307
built onto the emotions that
you're seeing on the screen.
1327
00:57:57,373 --> 00:58:00,009
So when "be my baby"
by the ronettes starts playing,
1328
00:58:00,076 --> 00:58:02,078
it's like a perfect storm of romance.
1329
00:58:22,265 --> 00:58:25,134
In recent years, it seems
that television has become
1330
00:58:25,201 --> 00:58:27,403
a kind of an electronic confessional
1331
00:58:27,470 --> 00:58:29,906
where guests are willing to expose painful
1332
00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:32,575
and sometimes embarrassing
aspects of their lives
1333
00:58:32,642 --> 00:58:34,944
quite readily to millions of viewers.
1334
00:58:35,011 --> 00:58:36,913
At the beginning of the decade,
1335
00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:39,449
we get the dominance of Phil donahue.
1336
00:58:39,515 --> 00:58:42,986
And that's sort of a maturation of women's issues.
1337
00:58:43,052 --> 00:58:45,688
And he seemed to talk to them, in the audience,
1338
00:58:45,755 --> 00:58:47,991
he seemed to talk to them through the TV screen.
1339
00:58:48,057 --> 00:58:50,326
I'm glad you called.
Kiss the kids.
1340
00:58:51,561 --> 00:58:52,929
We'll be back in just a moment.
1341
00:58:52,996 --> 00:58:56,132
If you look at the body of work we've had,
1342
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:59,135
you know, you're gonna see the '80s there.
1343
00:58:59,202 --> 00:59:00,837
I'm not here to say you're wrong,
1344
00:59:00,904 --> 00:59:02,605
but let's understand this.
1345
00:59:02,672 --> 00:59:05,341
When you bring a moral judgment
without knowing them,
1346
00:59:05,408 --> 00:59:08,211
against them for the way that they look
1347
00:59:08,278 --> 00:59:13,082
they feel that confirms
the reason for their rebellion,
1348
00:59:13,149 --> 00:59:14,951
if that's what you want to call it.
1349
00:59:15,018 --> 00:59:17,587
He really believed that daytime television
1350
00:59:17,654 --> 00:59:22,525
needed to talk about the ideas
we were thinking about,
1351
00:59:22,592 --> 00:59:24,627
the issues we were concerned about.
1352
00:59:24,694 --> 00:59:27,230
I don't want to characterize his question,
1353
00:59:27,297 --> 00:59:28,765
but why don't you get this fixed
1354
00:59:28,831 --> 00:59:30,633
instead of doing this screwy stuff?
1355
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:32,502
There's not a single recorded case
1356
00:59:32,568 --> 00:59:35,872
in history of any transsexual, that ever,
1357
00:59:35,939 --> 00:59:37,440
through psychological treatment, changed.
1358
00:59:37,507 --> 00:59:39,208
It has never happened yet.
1359
00:59:39,275 --> 00:59:42,512
We were putting very important
people on the program.
1360
00:59:42,578 --> 00:59:44,247
All kinds of people.
1361
00:59:44,314 --> 00:59:46,582
Gay people.
People going to jail.
1362
00:59:46,649 --> 00:59:48,518
People running for office, you know?
1363
00:59:48,584 --> 00:59:50,186
Sometimes the same people.
1364
00:59:50,253 --> 00:59:53,056
It was a magic carpet ride.
1365
00:59:53,122 --> 00:59:55,692
You really do paint a very, very grim, picture
1366
00:59:55,758 --> 00:59:59,395
of the sitting president of the United States.
1367
00:59:59,462 --> 01:00:01,331
Let me just say this -
I think he's probably
1368
01:00:01,397 --> 01:00:03,433
the laziest president that I've ever seen.
1369
01:00:03,499 --> 01:00:07,170
The audience for Phil donahue
built and built and built
1370
01:00:07,236 --> 01:00:12,008
and built and led the way to "Oprah."
1371
01:00:18,581 --> 01:00:20,516
Whoo!
1372
01:00:20,583 --> 01:00:23,619
Hello, everybody. Hello!
1373
01:00:23,686 --> 01:00:28,057
Oprah has a particularly magical combination
1374
01:00:28,124 --> 01:00:31,427
of her own background, her own experience,
1375
01:00:31,494 --> 01:00:36,599
her own incisive mind, and empathetic spirit.
1376
01:00:36,666 --> 01:00:39,235
Thank you. I'm Oprah Winfrey
1377
01:00:39,302 --> 01:00:42,472
and welcome to the very first
national "Oprah Winfrey show"!
1378
01:00:44,073 --> 01:00:45,842
I was surprised at the rocket pace
1379
01:00:45,908 --> 01:00:49,178
that "Oprah" took off
because it took us a lot longer.
1380
01:00:49,245 --> 01:00:51,848
The donahue show rearranged the furniture,
1381
01:00:51,914 --> 01:00:54,684
but Oprah remodeled the whole house.
1382
01:00:54,751 --> 01:00:56,853
There are a lot of
other people who are watching
1383
01:00:56,919 --> 01:00:59,722
who really don't understand
what you mean when you say,
1384
01:00:59,789 --> 01:01:01,157
well, you know, we're in love.
1385
01:01:01,224 --> 01:01:03,192
Because I remember questioning
my gay friends saying, you mean,
1386
01:01:03,259 --> 01:01:05,928
like, you feel about him
the way I feel about...
1387
01:01:05,995 --> 01:01:08,831
It's kind of a strange concept,
1388
01:01:08,898 --> 01:01:10,767
you know, for a lot of people to accept.
1389
01:01:10,833 --> 01:01:13,436
Oprah was connecting with people in a way
1390
01:01:13,503 --> 01:01:15,505
that no one had on TV before.
1391
01:01:15,571 --> 01:01:18,341
And it was really special to see.
1392
01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:20,209
Well, did you know
that for the longest time,
1393
01:01:20,276 --> 01:01:22,078
I wanted to be a fourth grade
teacher because of you?
1394
01:01:22,145 --> 01:01:26,416
My, I was not aware of inspiring anyone.
1395
01:01:26,482 --> 01:01:28,985
I think you did exactly what
teachers are supposed to do.
1396
01:01:29,052 --> 01:01:30,920
They create a spark for learning.
1397
01:01:30,987 --> 01:01:33,156
That's the reason I have a talk show today.
1398
01:01:33,222 --> 01:01:36,526
Oprah Winfrey now dominates
the talk show circuit
1399
01:01:36,592 --> 01:01:38,995
both in the ratings and popularity.
1400
01:01:39,062 --> 01:01:43,433
I want to use my life as
a source of lifting people up.
1401
01:01:43,499 --> 01:01:44,534
That's what I want to do.
1402
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,302
That's what I do every day on my show.
1403
01:01:46,369 --> 01:01:48,671
You know, we get accused
of being tabloid television
1404
01:01:48,738 --> 01:01:50,039
and sensational and so forth,
1405
01:01:50,106 --> 01:01:52,241
but what I really think we do
more than anything else
1406
01:01:52,308 --> 01:01:55,378
is we serve as a voice to a lot of people
1407
01:01:55,445 --> 01:01:58,414
who felt up until perhaps
my show or some of the others,
1408
01:01:58,481 --> 01:01:59,615
that they were alone.
1409
01:01:59,682 --> 01:02:03,119
This is what 67 pounds of fat looks like.
1410
01:02:03,986 --> 01:02:05,955
I can't, I can't lift it.
1411
01:02:06,022 --> 01:02:07,757
It is amazing to me
that I can't lift it,
1412
01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:10,126
but I used to carry it around every day.
1413
01:02:10,193 --> 01:02:13,529
There's nothing more endearing to an audience
1414
01:02:13,596 --> 01:02:18,267
than to have that kind of
honest and humility and courage
1415
01:02:18,334 --> 01:02:19,735
on the part of a host.
1416
01:02:19,802 --> 01:02:23,172
And that, I think,
has a lot to do with her power.
1417
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:24,974
It feels like I can do some good here.
1418
01:02:25,041 --> 01:02:28,478
And I really do think that
the show does a lot of good.
1419
01:02:31,581 --> 01:02:34,750
American television is drowning in talk shows.
1420
01:02:34,817 --> 01:02:37,820
But it's never seen anything
like Morton downy, Jr.
1421
01:02:37,887 --> 01:02:39,088
I want to tell you this story -
1422
01:02:39,155 --> 01:02:40,590
sit down and shut up!
1423
01:02:40,656 --> 01:02:42,024
Other competitors come
1424
01:02:42,091 --> 01:02:43,826
and take the television talk show
1425
01:02:43,893 --> 01:02:45,495
into two different directions.
1426
01:02:45,561 --> 01:02:46,696
So you start seeing the phenomenon
1427
01:02:46,762 --> 01:02:48,564
of daytime television shows
1428
01:02:48,631 --> 01:02:50,900
becoming less tame and more wild.
1429
01:02:50,967 --> 01:02:56,405
The '80s brought a lot
of belligerence to television.
1430
01:02:56,472 --> 01:02:58,407
Whether it was Morton downey, Jr.
1431
01:02:58,474 --> 01:03:00,643
Being the offensive,
1432
01:03:00,710 --> 01:03:03,913
caricatureish person that he was,
1433
01:03:03,980 --> 01:03:05,381
or Geraldo.
1434
01:03:05,448 --> 01:03:07,717
He did his own outlandish things.
1435
01:03:07,783 --> 01:03:09,652
Stay with us ladies and gentlemen.
1436
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:12,655
We're gonna get into the mind
of another all American boy
1437
01:03:12,722 --> 01:03:14,490
who came under the influence of satanism
1438
01:03:14,557 --> 01:03:17,293
and took part in a crime
without passion or motive.
1439
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,828
Geraldo Rivera takes the power
1440
01:03:18,895 --> 01:03:20,630
of the talk show to a whole other level,
1441
01:03:20,696 --> 01:03:23,232
trying to put people on stage
who hate each other,
1442
01:03:23,299 --> 01:03:24,600
who are gonna fight.
1443
01:03:24,667 --> 01:03:26,636
In the case of the temple
of set and the church of Satan,
1444
01:03:26,702 --> 01:03:29,405
we have not had any problems
with criminal behavior.
1445
01:03:29,472 --> 01:03:33,809
Yet when you hear story after
story after story of people
1446
01:03:33,876 --> 01:03:35,578
committing these wretched crimes,
1447
01:03:35,645 --> 01:03:37,780
these violent crimes in the devil's name?
1448
01:03:37,847 --> 01:03:40,449
The more tension there is,
the more conflict there is,
1449
01:03:40,516 --> 01:03:42,919
the more violence there is,
the more the ratings go up.
1450
01:03:42,985 --> 01:03:44,887
And the American people
love to complain about it,
1451
01:03:44,954 --> 01:03:46,322
but they also love to watch.
1452
01:03:46,389 --> 01:03:49,425
Geraldo Rivera is back
in a controversy tonight.
1453
01:03:49,492 --> 01:03:50,793
Rivera drew sharp criticism
1454
01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:53,396
with his recent television
special on devil worship.
1455
01:03:53,462 --> 01:03:56,332
But today he found himself
in a real free for all.
1456
01:03:56,399 --> 01:03:59,335
I get sick and tired of seeing
uncle Tom here, sucking up,
1457
01:03:59,402 --> 01:04:00,636
trying to be a white man.
1458
01:04:00,703 --> 01:04:02,572
Go ahead, Troy, go ahead.
Now, let me tell you -
1459
01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:04,707
sit down, man.
1460
01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:04,707
Hey!
1461
01:04:04,774 --> 01:04:05,775
Come on.
No.
1462
01:04:05,841 --> 01:04:07,176
You got it coming.
You got it coming.
1463
01:04:07,243 --> 01:04:08,544
Dude...
1464
01:04:07,243 --> 01:04:08,544
Get up and get it.
1465
01:04:08,611 --> 01:04:09,612
Nah.
1466
01:04:08,611 --> 01:04:09,612
Hey, hold it!
1467
01:04:08,611 --> 01:04:09,612
Nah.
1468
01:04:08,611 --> 01:04:09,612
Hey, hold it!
1469
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:10,680
Hold it!
1470
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:10,680
Sit down!
1471
01:04:17,453 --> 01:04:18,955
Rivera suffered a broken nose
1472
01:04:19,021 --> 01:04:20,456
but he says the show will be broadcast
1473
01:04:20,523 --> 01:04:23,492
later this month in its entirety.
1474
01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:27,363
Well, that's not something,
you know, I would have done.
1475
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:30,466
But there was a lot of hypocrisy.
1476
01:04:30,533 --> 01:04:33,636
One of the major magazines
put the picture of Geraldo
1477
01:04:33,703 --> 01:04:35,705
getting hit with a chair on the cover.
1478
01:04:35,771 --> 01:04:37,373
And the article said, "isn't this awful?
1479
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,708
Look what's happened to television."
1480
01:04:38,774 --> 01:04:40,376
And yet they couldn't wait to use it
1481
01:04:40,443 --> 01:04:41,877
to sell their own magazine.
1482
01:04:41,944 --> 01:04:44,013
Let's go to the audience, all right.
1483
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,048
I want to speak to you guys.
You guys are...
1484
01:04:46,115 --> 01:04:48,150
Over the years, broadcasting has deteriorated.
1485
01:04:48,217 --> 01:04:49,919
And now in this era of deregulation,
1486
01:04:49,986 --> 01:04:51,287
it's deteriorating further.
1487
01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:55,324
Give people light, and they will
find their own way. Relax.
1488
01:04:55,391 --> 01:04:57,727
America will survive the talk shows.
1489
01:05:12,675 --> 01:05:14,677
A big thing that changes in the '80s
1490
01:05:14,744 --> 01:05:16,679
is the number of hours spent
watching television.
1491
01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:18,180
Goes up.
1492
01:05:18,247 --> 01:05:19,882
The number of hours spent
1493
01:05:19,949 --> 01:05:21,651
talking about television goes up.
1494
01:05:21,717 --> 01:05:23,219
One of the symbols of this phenomenon
1495
01:05:23,286 --> 01:05:25,087
is "entertainment tonight."
1496
01:05:25,154 --> 01:05:29,191
Hi, I'm Tom hallick and welcome
to our opening night,
1497
01:05:29,258 --> 01:05:32,128
the premiere edition
of "entertainment tonight."
1498
01:05:32,194 --> 01:05:35,231
All of the critics were kind of unanimous
1499
01:05:35,298 --> 01:05:36,832
in that they said,
1500
01:05:36,899 --> 01:05:38,134
"it'll never last
1501
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,936
because there simply isn't
enough entertainment news
1502
01:05:41,003 --> 01:05:42,305
to fill a halfhour every night.
1503
01:05:42,371 --> 01:05:45,107
"Entertainment tonight"
has surveyed TV critics
1504
01:05:45,174 --> 01:05:47,009
in the United States and Canada
1505
01:05:47,076 --> 01:05:50,012
to find out which television
shows had the most impact
1506
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:51,647
on viewers over the years.
1507
01:05:51,714 --> 01:05:55,384
Now, up until this time, nobody
had done television like this.
1508
01:05:55,451 --> 01:05:56,819
Nobody.
1509
01:05:56,886 --> 01:05:59,922
Burt Reynolds, the hottest actor in Hollywood.
1510
01:05:59,989 --> 01:06:00,756
I'm surprised to see you here.
1511
01:06:00,823 --> 01:06:01,490
Well, I'm glad to see you.
1512
01:06:01,557 --> 01:06:02,591
Well, thank you.
1513
01:06:02,658 --> 01:06:03,793
We can meet here every night if you'd like.
1514
01:06:03,859 --> 01:06:04,660
Thank you.
I'd love it.
1515
01:06:05,628 --> 01:06:06,796
A lot of what makes
1516
01:06:06,862 --> 01:06:08,597
successful television programming
1517
01:06:08,664 --> 01:06:12,068
is being in the right place at the right time.
1518
01:06:12,134 --> 01:06:13,602
And it was the right time.
1519
01:06:13,669 --> 01:06:16,439
Entertainment journalism evolved
1520
01:06:16,505 --> 01:06:19,942
as the audience got more curious
and had more access.
1521
01:06:20,009 --> 01:06:21,143
Until that point,
1522
01:06:21,210 --> 01:06:23,112
the entertainment business
had been something
1523
01:06:23,179 --> 01:06:25,381
that we didn't know all that much about.
1524
01:06:25,448 --> 01:06:28,317
We could go behind
the scenes in our effort
1525
01:06:28,384 --> 01:06:31,320
to really give an insider's look.
1526
01:06:31,387 --> 01:06:34,357
The crafty old j.R. Of "Dallas"
fame was with his mother,
1527
01:06:34,423 --> 01:06:37,259
actress Mary Martin
as he was presented with a star
1528
01:06:37,326 --> 01:06:38,694
on the Hollywood walk of fame.
1529
01:06:38,761 --> 01:06:41,997
It was very honorific of the industry.
1530
01:06:42,064 --> 01:06:43,999
They would do serious coverage of it.
1531
01:06:44,066 --> 01:06:46,035
It wasn't salacious and you would see actors
1532
01:06:46,102 --> 01:06:49,672
speaking as actors instead of
on a Johnny Carson show.
1533
01:06:49,739 --> 01:06:51,407
What are you like off camera?
1534
01:06:51,474 --> 01:06:53,209
I'm like this.
Oh, this is on camera.
1535
01:06:53,275 --> 01:06:54,610
This is on camera.
1536
01:06:54,677 --> 01:06:58,314
It was the beginning
of a lot of money being made
1537
01:06:58,381 --> 01:07:01,617
talking about entertainment
and celebrities.
1538
01:07:01,684 --> 01:07:03,719
Robert redford plays
the good guy in the movies,
1539
01:07:03,786 --> 01:07:05,654
but don't tell that to
his neighbors in Utah.
1540
01:07:05,721 --> 01:07:06,756
They are still bitter
1541
01:07:06,822 --> 01:07:08,791
and redford is the target of their ire.
1542
01:07:08,858 --> 01:07:11,060
The audience grew and grew.
1543
01:07:11,127 --> 01:07:12,795
And that was showing us that the appetite
1544
01:07:12,862 --> 01:07:16,499
for celebrity news was big.
It was big.
1545
01:07:16,565 --> 01:07:19,635
Get ready for "lifestyles
of the rich and famous,"
1546
01:07:19,702 --> 01:07:23,339
television's most dazzling hour
of excitement!
1547
01:07:23,406 --> 01:07:25,608
Hi, I'm Robin leach in Monaco,
1548
01:07:25,674 --> 01:07:28,043
the glittering gem of the riviera.
1549
01:07:28,110 --> 01:07:33,249
And you've got a vip ticket to
prince rainier's private party.
1550
01:07:33,315 --> 01:07:35,951
Your Sunday newspaper is still delivered
1551
01:07:36,018 --> 01:07:38,187
with the comics around the news.
1552
01:07:38,254 --> 01:07:41,424
And that was what I always
thought "lifestyles" was.
1553
01:07:41,490 --> 01:07:43,325
We were the comic around the news.
1554
01:07:43,392 --> 01:07:47,163
Except we did it as seriously
as they did news.
1555
01:07:47,229 --> 01:07:49,865
Finally in the driving seat
of his own career,
1556
01:07:49,932 --> 01:07:52,368
he burned rubber in a new direction.
1557
01:07:52,435 --> 01:07:54,603
David Hasselhoff - rock idol.
1558
01:07:54,670 --> 01:07:58,974
It was a time where
pushing the limits with wealth
1559
01:07:59,041 --> 01:08:03,245
and ostentatiousness in a lot
of cases was very comfortable.
1560
01:08:03,312 --> 01:08:05,915
One of the earliest stories
that we presented to you
1561
01:08:05,981 --> 01:08:09,351
on "lifestyles" was about
the amazing realestate wizard
1562
01:08:09,418 --> 01:08:10,719
Donald Trump.
1563
01:08:10,786 --> 01:08:12,755
If he didn't shock and surprise
you back then,
1564
01:08:12,822 --> 01:08:15,357
he's had plenty of time since.
1565
01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:18,594
With all of this costing
billions, not millions,
1566
01:08:18,661 --> 01:08:20,362
do the figures ever frighten you?
1567
01:08:20,429 --> 01:08:21,964
The answer is no.
It's my business.
1568
01:08:22,031 --> 01:08:23,966
It's my life.
It's my lifestyle.
1569
01:08:24,033 --> 01:08:26,569
I love it.
The good, the bad.
1570
01:08:26,635 --> 01:08:29,805
Does this bring with it
political aspirations?
1571
01:08:29,872 --> 01:08:31,841
No political aspiration.
1572
01:08:31,907 --> 01:08:35,110
Your show has gotten a lot of ridicule.
1573
01:08:35,177 --> 01:08:38,380
There are people who say
it's nothing more than trash.
1574
01:08:38,447 --> 01:08:40,115
That doesn't upset me because I think
1575
01:08:40,182 --> 01:08:42,084
it's the best trash there is on television.
1576
01:08:42,151 --> 01:08:45,287
I am not in the business of brain surgery.
1577
01:08:45,354 --> 01:08:47,423
I am in the business of fluff.
1578
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:49,191
It's the fantasy element
1579
01:08:49,258 --> 01:08:51,327
at a time when the access is possible.
1580
01:08:51,393 --> 01:08:54,163
It's escapism and it's aspirational.
1581
01:08:54,230 --> 01:08:56,398
You want to stand in a hot tub
with a glass of champagne?
1582
01:08:56,465 --> 01:08:57,900
Rock on!
1583
01:08:57,967 --> 01:09:02,037
We'd never seen that
kind of wealth ever before.
1584
01:09:02,104 --> 01:09:04,874
We didn't mock it,
we didn't say it was right,
1585
01:09:04,940 --> 01:09:06,709
and we didn't say it was wrong.
1586
01:09:06,775 --> 01:09:09,845
We were just through the keyhole.
1587
01:09:09,912 --> 01:09:12,481
Sometimes, you know,
it absolutely amazes me.
1588
01:09:12,548 --> 01:09:16,285
I walk away from a shoot and I
think, "well, we did it again."
1589
01:09:16,352 --> 01:09:18,854
There was more of everything
in TV by the '80s.
1590
01:09:18,921 --> 01:09:22,157
Your opportunities for watching
stuff is increasingly vast.
1591
01:09:22,224 --> 01:09:25,261
Nbc presents "real people."
1592
01:09:25,327 --> 01:09:28,197
My name's Michael B. Wilson.
1593
01:09:28,264 --> 01:09:30,132
The thought dawned on me that the application
1594
01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:31,867
of a small motor on a pair of roller skates
1595
01:09:31,934 --> 01:09:33,702
might really be a great thing.
1596
01:09:33,769 --> 01:09:35,871
Somebody once said that each one of us
1597
01:09:35,938 --> 01:09:37,973
will be a star for 15 minutes.
1598
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,042
And I think that that's
probably going to happen.
1599
01:09:40,109 --> 01:09:42,378
American culture used to
be a culture that celebrated
1600
01:09:42,444 --> 01:09:45,414
privacy and in the 1980s
as we're watching celebrities
1601
01:09:45,481 --> 01:09:49,552
sort of play out onstage,
"hey, I want to join, too."
1602
01:09:49,618 --> 01:09:52,354
All the world becomes a stage
and you start seeing shows
1603
01:09:52,421 --> 01:09:54,590
like "real people" or "the people's court."
1604
01:09:54,657 --> 01:09:55,824
The people's court -
1605
01:09:55,891 --> 01:09:59,595
where reality television
is taken one step further.
1606
01:09:59,662 --> 01:10:03,032
To see more TV, producers had to come up with
1607
01:10:03,098 --> 01:10:06,468
new and different ways
to give them television.
1608
01:10:06,535 --> 01:10:08,470
Don't be stupid.
1609
01:10:08,537 --> 01:10:10,472
Carl, get over here!
1610
01:10:12,374 --> 01:10:13,676
I told you not to be stupid!
1611
01:10:13,742 --> 01:10:16,345
What "cops" did
was it took away the script
1612
01:10:16,412 --> 01:10:20,516
and just brought the camera
people and the crews on location
1613
01:10:20,583 --> 01:10:23,152
to try and catch actual things happening.
1614
01:10:23,218 --> 01:10:24,486
Cocaine...
1615
01:10:24,553 --> 01:10:26,822
Possession of a stolen firearm no less.
1616
01:10:26,889 --> 01:10:28,691
What else are you gonna do?
1617
01:10:41,470 --> 01:10:43,572
With this ring...
1618
01:10:43,639 --> 01:10:44,673
With this ring...
1619
01:10:44,740 --> 01:10:45,474
I thee wed.
1620
01:10:45,541 --> 01:10:47,176
I thee wed.
1621
01:10:47,242 --> 01:10:48,611
With my body...
1622
01:10:48,677 --> 01:10:49,845
With my body...
1623
01:10:49,912 --> 01:10:50,846
I thee bond.
1624
01:10:50,913 --> 01:10:52,448
I thee bond.
1625
01:10:52,514 --> 01:10:55,317
The biggest television event of the 1980s
1626
01:10:55,384 --> 01:10:57,386
is the marriage of Charles and Diana.
1627
01:10:57,453 --> 01:10:59,822
It's like the world stopped
when that happened.
1628
01:10:59,888 --> 01:11:02,091
I mean, that was, like, just massive.
1629
01:11:02,157 --> 01:11:04,393
This was the final act of a spectacle
1630
01:11:04,460 --> 01:11:07,997
that may never again be seen
in this century, if ever.
1631
01:11:08,063 --> 01:11:09,932
The archbishop of canterbury called the wedding
1632
01:11:09,999 --> 01:11:12,334
of prince Charles and lady Diana Spencer today
1633
01:11:12,401 --> 01:11:13,902
the stuff of fairy tales.
1634
01:11:13,969 --> 01:11:16,338
Good evening.
The royal couple at this hour
1635
01:11:16,405 --> 01:11:17,673
is off on the honeymoon,
1636
01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:20,075
while a lot of people
here in London tonight
1637
01:11:20,142 --> 01:11:22,645
are still talking about
the events of the day.
1638
01:11:22,711 --> 01:11:25,214
When you have great
moments like the royal wedding,
1639
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,650
they're a part of history
and it's done beautifully
1640
01:11:27,716 --> 01:11:30,219
and everybody has a chance
to watch it all on television.
1641
01:11:30,285 --> 01:11:34,056
Everybody just wants to drink
a toast to Chuck and di.
1642
01:11:34,123 --> 01:11:37,159
A Princess who must
now be aware as it was
1643
01:11:37,226 --> 01:11:40,396
on this day that every single
move she makes in public
1644
01:11:40,462 --> 01:11:42,831
will be recorded and observed.
1645
01:11:42,898 --> 01:11:45,768
A very difficult life indeed.
1646
01:11:45,834 --> 01:11:48,337
We'll be back in just a moment
with some closing observations
1647
01:11:48,404 --> 01:11:52,307
and one final look at
what has justifiably been called
1648
01:11:52,374 --> 01:11:54,109
the wedding of the century.
1649
01:11:54,176 --> 01:11:57,112
By the authority of the state of New York,
1650
01:11:57,179 --> 01:12:00,916
I pronounce that they are husband and wife.
1651
01:12:00,983 --> 01:12:02,384
You may kiss the bride.
1652
01:12:05,054 --> 01:12:08,390
Your wedding was seen by an
astonishing number of people -
1653
01:12:08,457 --> 01:12:10,159
16 and 19 million viewers.
1654
01:12:10,225 --> 01:12:11,460
How do you account for
that kind of popularity?
1655
01:12:11,527 --> 01:12:13,562
Oh, I can't.
I can't.
1656
01:12:13,629 --> 01:12:17,132
The way it's grown, it's just -
it's amazing to me.
1657
01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:20,736
It did appear in
the '80s that it was a good time
1658
01:12:20,803 --> 01:12:22,071
for daytime soap operas,
1659
01:12:22,137 --> 01:12:24,073
especially for a show
like "general hospital,"
1660
01:12:24,139 --> 01:12:26,942
which had that huge success
with Luke and Laura's wedding.
1661
01:12:27,009 --> 01:12:30,012
I remember when Luke and Laura got married
1662
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:32,915
because it was nighttime newsworthy.
1663
01:12:32,981 --> 01:12:37,286
The soap opera discovers
the blockbuster mentality,
1664
01:12:37,352 --> 01:12:39,088
the sweeps month mentality.
1665
01:12:39,154 --> 01:12:42,491
Like, what can we do to get
even more people watching.
1666
01:12:42,558 --> 01:12:44,927
You have a wedding.
You have a kidnapping.
1667
01:12:44,993 --> 01:12:46,495
You have an evil twin.
1668
01:12:46,562 --> 01:12:49,064
And prime time stole from daytime.
1669
01:12:49,131 --> 01:12:51,967
After "Dallas" proved
that ewing oil was better
1670
01:12:52,034 --> 01:12:53,902
than real oil for CBS,
1671
01:12:53,969 --> 01:12:56,071
the networks rushed to give the public more.
1672
01:12:56,138 --> 01:12:59,208
The great primetime
soap operas of the 1980s.
1673
01:12:59,274 --> 01:13:02,745
"Dallas," "dynasty."
They're all about excess.
1674
01:13:02,811 --> 01:13:04,780
This is about being over the top,
1675
01:13:04,847 --> 01:13:06,415
stabbing each other in the back,
1676
01:13:06,482 --> 01:13:09,384
going for the gusto, and having fun.
1677
01:13:09,451 --> 01:13:13,355
I know what's wrong with you.
The empty armed Madonna.
1678
01:13:13,422 --> 01:13:15,891
Mourning the baby that she couldn't have
1679
01:13:15,958 --> 01:13:19,128
and the baby that she almost got to adopt.
1680
01:13:19,194 --> 01:13:20,596
That is it, isn't it?
1681
01:13:20,662 --> 01:13:24,032
Oh, you miserable bitch!
1682
01:13:28,670 --> 01:13:30,739
There was a bigness to the stories.
1683
01:13:30,806 --> 01:13:32,775
And that they could afford
to do on a network,
1684
01:13:32,841 --> 01:13:34,109
if you're doing one episode a week.
1685
01:13:34,176 --> 01:13:35,611
Now you can't do that
if you're doing five episodes
1686
01:13:35,677 --> 01:13:37,946
a week for a daytime show.
1687
01:13:38,013 --> 01:13:41,617
So just the production value
gave it that pizzazz.
1688
01:13:41,683 --> 01:13:45,187
If you can't have it,
watch other people with it.
1689
01:13:45,254 --> 01:13:47,790
Or so say the three networks
who are programming
1690
01:13:47,856 --> 01:13:50,159
nearly 40% of their primetime fare
1691
01:13:50,225 --> 01:13:51,894
with series about the very rich.
1692
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,563
And the public is devouring it at such a rate
1693
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:57,499
that make believe money has become ratings gold.
1694
01:13:58,967 --> 01:14:00,903
The characters were larger than life.
1695
01:14:00,969 --> 01:14:04,840
They were more evil and more
cunning and manipulative.
1696
01:14:04,907 --> 01:14:07,476
And more gorgeous.
I mean, really.
1697
01:14:07,543 --> 01:14:09,645
Look at the way they were dressed.
1698
01:14:09,711 --> 01:14:12,848
Look at the way they lived.
Everything, it was fascinating.
1699
01:14:12,915 --> 01:14:14,116
Alexis?
Yes.
1700
01:14:14,183 --> 01:14:16,451
I didn't thank you for your present.
1701
01:14:23,525 --> 01:14:27,095
It's he you should slap, dear, not I.
1702
01:14:27,162 --> 01:14:29,097
We all wanted to live like, you know,
1703
01:14:29,164 --> 01:14:31,266
we were on "dynasty," like the carringtons.
1704
01:14:31,333 --> 01:14:34,102
And it all just ended up
being a wonderful picture
1705
01:14:34,169 --> 01:14:36,805
of fun and debauchery.
1706
01:14:36,872 --> 01:14:39,675
Greed was encouraged in the '80s.
1707
01:14:39,741 --> 01:14:44,046
There was a sense of conspicuous
consumption as being okay.
1708
01:14:44,112 --> 01:14:45,714
And those shows kind of exploited that.
1709
01:14:45,781 --> 01:14:48,183
Primetime families like the carringtons
1710
01:14:48,250 --> 01:14:51,086
who live here in luxury
on the "dynasty" sound stage
1711
01:14:51,153 --> 01:14:53,822
are not the only rich folk on TV.
1712
01:14:53,889 --> 01:14:55,257
In the last five years,
1713
01:14:55,324 --> 01:14:58,393
more than half of all new shows
have featured the wealthy.
1714
01:14:58,460 --> 01:15:00,896
10 years ago, that figure was zero.
1715
01:15:00,963 --> 01:15:03,832
There was an accident.
Your father's dead.
1716
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,302
Falcon crest was a wine family.
1717
01:15:07,369 --> 01:15:08,637
There's Lorenzo lamas
1718
01:15:08,704 --> 01:15:10,973
and there's Ronald Reagan's first wife,
1719
01:15:11,039 --> 01:15:13,475
Jane Wyman is on that show.
1720
01:15:13,542 --> 01:15:15,110
Emma is pregnant.
1721
01:15:16,845 --> 01:15:18,347
I know a doctor who can
take care of it right away.
1722
01:15:18,413 --> 01:15:20,549
That will never happen.
1723
01:15:20,616 --> 01:15:23,986
All of those shows were,
"oh, my god, what's next?
1724
01:15:24,052 --> 01:15:26,755
What's gonna happen with that?
He can't get away with that."
1725
01:15:26,822 --> 01:15:28,590
And then you tune in.
It was appointment television.
1726
01:15:28,657 --> 01:15:30,792
What will become of the missing twins
1727
01:15:30,859 --> 01:15:32,060
on knots landing?
1728
01:15:32,127 --> 01:15:33,028
What?
1729
01:15:33,095 --> 01:15:34,930
They all had spinoffs.
1730
01:15:34,997 --> 01:15:36,865
"Dallas" had the spinoff "knots landing."
1731
01:15:36,932 --> 01:15:39,768
"The Colbys" was the spinoff for "dynasty."
1732
01:15:39,835 --> 01:15:42,204
They were seeing how much
they could Max this stuff out.
1733
01:15:42,271 --> 01:15:43,438
'Cause it was really successful.
1734
01:15:43,505 --> 01:15:45,507
Where's your son miles?
1735
01:15:45,574 --> 01:15:47,342
Isn't he going to be a part
of this venture,
1736
01:15:47,409 --> 01:15:50,012
or is he just playing Polo as usual?
1737
01:15:51,413 --> 01:15:53,215
The Colbys can always find room
for another trophy.
1738
01:15:54,716 --> 01:15:57,252
You had these people fighting over oil
1739
01:15:57,319 --> 01:16:01,723
and mansions and it was fantasy,
1740
01:16:01,790 --> 01:16:06,061
but in a kind of so over the top way
1741
01:16:06,128 --> 01:16:07,829
that it was fun.
1742
01:16:07,896 --> 01:16:11,633
There's nothing devious
about using your femininity.
1743
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,902
These shows took themselves
1744
01:16:13,969 --> 01:16:17,205
so unseriously that they were camp.
1745
01:16:17,272 --> 01:16:19,841
But that was okay with the central audience
1746
01:16:19,908 --> 01:16:21,143
that was loving them.
1747
01:16:21,209 --> 01:16:22,210
It was entertainment.
1748
01:16:22,277 --> 01:16:23,946
We weren't trying to do high drama.
1749
01:16:24,012 --> 01:16:25,847
We were there to entertain.
We were glossy.
1750
01:16:25,914 --> 01:16:27,549
There was no getting around it.
1751
01:16:27,616 --> 01:16:29,685
We knew what we were there for
and we did it as best we could.
1752
01:16:38,860 --> 01:16:41,196
Australia's most important export
1753
01:16:41,263 --> 01:16:44,466
may be neither its animals
nor its beer nor its films.
1754
01:16:44,533 --> 01:16:46,368
Could in fact be one Rupert Murdoch.
1755
01:16:46,435 --> 01:16:49,104
55 year old Mr. Murdoch
is in the midst of building
1756
01:16:49,171 --> 01:16:52,541
what Forbes magazine says is
the most extensive media empire
1757
01:16:52,607 --> 01:16:53,875
in history.
1758
01:16:53,942 --> 01:16:55,811
A huge development in television.
1759
01:16:55,877 --> 01:16:58,046
The gemini of the three broadcast networks
1760
01:16:58,113 --> 01:17:00,115
was presumed to be complete
and Rupert Murdoch
1761
01:17:00,182 --> 01:17:02,851
having disrupted the newspaper
business in Australia,
1762
01:17:02,918 --> 01:17:04,252
the television business in britain.
1763
01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:05,654
He arrives in america and basically says,
1764
01:17:05,721 --> 01:17:06,888
I don't really see why there should only be
1765
01:17:06,955 --> 01:17:07,689
three broadcast networks.
1766
01:17:07,756 --> 01:17:08,690
I'm gonna make another one.
1767
01:17:08,757 --> 01:17:10,959
This was a big, bold bet.
1768
01:17:11,026 --> 01:17:12,728
Meantime, he will have to become
1769
01:17:12,794 --> 01:17:16,131
an American citizen if he
is to own TV stations here.
1770
01:17:16,198 --> 01:17:18,700
Something Murdoch says he is willing to do.
1771
01:17:18,767 --> 01:17:20,435
There are some people who are saying
1772
01:17:20,502 --> 01:17:24,373
that it'll take you 20 years
to get your fox network
1773
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,974
on a par with the big three.
1774
01:17:26,041 --> 01:17:27,542
Are you prepared to wait that long?
1775
01:17:27,609 --> 01:17:29,678
Sure, I certainly intend
to live that long.
1776
01:17:29,745 --> 01:17:31,913
But I don't believe in the 20 years.
1777
01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:34,249
The reaction to Murdoch's idea
1778
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:37,319
for a fourth network was similar
to the reaction at Ted Turner
1779
01:17:37,386 --> 01:17:39,454
starting CNN.
It's ridiculous, you know.
1780
01:17:39,521 --> 01:17:41,857
What does he know about television?
1781
01:17:41,923 --> 01:17:44,426
We don't think of ourselves
as abc, CBS or nbc.
1782
01:17:44,493 --> 01:17:45,694
We don't have to reach everyone.
1783
01:17:45,761 --> 01:17:48,096
There's no question we have an inferior lineup
1784
01:17:48,163 --> 01:17:49,664
of stations to our counterparts.
1785
01:17:49,731 --> 01:17:51,066
That means we'll all have to work harder
1786
01:17:51,133 --> 01:17:53,368
to get ourour message across
and get shows sampled.
1787
01:17:53,435 --> 01:17:57,139
They had an idea that, "in order to succeed
1788
01:17:57,205 --> 01:17:59,307
we have to differentiate
ourselves from the networks.
1789
01:17:59,374 --> 01:18:01,576
We have to do things they would not do."
1790
01:18:01,643 --> 01:18:04,079
Fox started throwing anything
against the wall,
1791
01:18:04,146 --> 01:18:05,547
not knowing what was gonna go.
1792
01:18:05,614 --> 01:18:09,117
First shows were things like
"21 jump street"...
1793
01:18:09,184 --> 01:18:11,553
What exactly are we looking for here?
1794
01:18:11,620 --> 01:18:13,055
...Joan rivers in terms of late night...
1795
01:18:13,121 --> 01:18:15,891
We have been banned in Boston,
which I think is wonderful.
1796
01:18:15,957 --> 01:18:19,694
Wxne, so pick a finger wxne.
1797
01:18:19,761 --> 01:18:21,530
...And "the Tracey ullman show."
1798
01:18:21,596 --> 01:18:24,633
Oh, Polly!
1799
01:18:24,699 --> 01:18:27,002
It was a sketch show
1800
01:18:27,069 --> 01:18:32,007
and they needed something
to go between the sketches.
1801
01:18:32,074 --> 01:18:33,742
And again, they were looking
for something different.
1802
01:18:33,809 --> 01:18:35,744
I gotta have those candy bars.
1803
01:18:35,811 --> 01:18:38,513
You better not be thinking
of stealing those candy bars.
1804
01:18:38,580 --> 01:18:39,681
That's it!
1805
01:18:39,748 --> 01:18:43,485
"The Simpsons" would never have come along
1806
01:18:43,552 --> 01:18:46,421
had it not been for "the Tracey Ullman show."
1807
01:18:46,488 --> 01:18:49,357
Ultimately, crime hurts the criminal.
1808
01:18:49,424 --> 01:18:52,627
But that's not true mom.
I gotta free ride home didn't I?
1809
01:18:52,694 --> 01:18:53,462
Bart!
1810
01:18:53,528 --> 01:18:55,464
Fox was thrilled
1811
01:18:55,530 --> 01:18:57,299
that it was different.
1812
01:18:57,365 --> 01:18:58,900
They said, sure, be experimental.
1813
01:18:58,967 --> 01:19:00,001
Do whatever you want.
1814
01:19:00,068 --> 01:19:01,903
We're just happy to have a show on the air.
1815
01:19:04,473 --> 01:19:05,941
I'm home!
1816
01:19:06,007 --> 01:19:06,875
"Married with children"
1817
01:19:06,942 --> 01:19:09,044
was their first big, big hit
1818
01:19:09,111 --> 01:19:11,980
in that way that said
if all the rest of television
1819
01:19:12,047 --> 01:19:14,816
is going this way, we're going that way.
1820
01:19:14,883 --> 01:19:18,120
Bud, Kelly, you want to come
down and help me in the kitchen?
1821
01:19:22,257 --> 01:19:25,961
There, that should buy us
about 10 minutes.
1822
01:19:26,027 --> 01:19:29,664
7 more than we'll need.
1823
01:19:29,731 --> 01:19:31,700
The title of "married with children"
1824
01:19:31,766 --> 01:19:33,935
on the script was "not the cosby show."
1825
01:19:34,002 --> 01:19:36,538
How great. I mean, you know,
you have to love that.
1826
01:19:36,605 --> 01:19:39,407
They just were taking the piss
out of American families.
1827
01:19:39,474 --> 01:19:40,842
Fun, great fun.
1828
01:19:40,909 --> 01:19:42,244
Hurry up bud.
1829
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:43,478
Never wanted to get married, I'm married.
1830
01:19:43,545 --> 01:19:44,813
Never wanted to have kids, I got two of them.
1831
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,715
How the hell did this happen?
1832
01:19:46,781 --> 01:19:49,718
The bundys were almost like
a purposeful reaction
1833
01:19:49,784 --> 01:19:52,020
to the perfection of the huxtables.
1834
01:19:52,087 --> 01:19:53,221
And it was funny because, you know,
1835
01:19:53,288 --> 01:19:55,557
you had this wonderful, perfect black family
1836
01:19:55,624 --> 01:19:57,559
and these horrible, miserable white people.
1837
01:19:57,626 --> 01:19:59,194
And each show worked on its own terms
1838
01:19:59,261 --> 01:20:01,696
because you could find things
to relate to in both.
1839
01:20:01,763 --> 01:20:03,064
Howdy neighbor.
1840
01:20:03,131 --> 01:20:04,065
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1841
01:20:04,132 --> 01:20:05,567
I hate these people.
1842
01:20:05,634 --> 01:20:07,035
Why don't we sit down?
1843
01:20:07,102 --> 01:20:10,138
There was a lot of fun to be had
in, you know, al and peg Bundy.
1844
01:20:10,205 --> 01:20:13,742
After fox introduces "married with children,"
1845
01:20:13,808 --> 01:20:16,745
it does very, very well, then back on abc,
1846
01:20:16,811 --> 01:20:19,881
they came up with another major hit, "Roseanne."
1847
01:20:19,948 --> 01:20:21,550
You think this is a magic kingdom
1848
01:20:21,616 --> 01:20:23,552
where you just sit up here on your throne.
1849
01:20:23,618 --> 01:20:24,619
Oh yeah?
1850
01:20:24,686 --> 01:20:26,021
Yeah!
And you think everything gets done
1851
01:20:26,087 --> 01:20:27,489
by some wonderful wizard.
1852
01:20:27,556 --> 01:20:29,457
Oh, poof, the laundry's folded.
1853
01:20:29,524 --> 01:20:30,992
Poof, dinner's on the table.
1854
01:20:31,059 --> 01:20:33,461
You want me to fix dinner?
I'll fix dinner.
1855
01:20:33,528 --> 01:20:34,763
I'm fixing dinner!
1856
01:20:34,829 --> 01:20:39,467
Oh, but, honey, you just
fixed dinner three years ago.
1857
01:20:39,534 --> 01:20:41,303
Typical American families
1858
01:20:41,369 --> 01:20:43,672
weren't on television for the longest time.
1859
01:20:43,738 --> 01:20:46,041
The Donna Reed days, you know, the early days,
1860
01:20:46,107 --> 01:20:49,177
the "father knows best," hardly
anybody really lived like that.
1861
01:20:49,244 --> 01:20:51,947
That was the way advertisers wanted you to live.
1862
01:20:52,013 --> 01:20:54,082
I know what just might make me feel better.
1863
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:56,318
Me too, but I bet it's a different list
1864
01:20:56,384 --> 01:20:57,485
than what you got.
1865
01:20:57,552 --> 01:21:00,088
The ideal situation is if you can subvert
1866
01:21:00,155 --> 01:21:03,158
whatever common stuff is said about families
1867
01:21:03,225 --> 01:21:04,392
and about parenting.
1868
01:21:04,459 --> 01:21:06,528
What's in this, lead?
1869
01:21:06,595 --> 01:21:09,030
Oh, I got you kids new leg irons.
1870
01:21:10,131 --> 01:21:13,101
Her loudness and her unfilteredness
1871
01:21:13,168 --> 01:21:15,036
were key to why we liked her.
1872
01:21:15,103 --> 01:21:17,105
She was saying stuff about working class people,
1873
01:21:17,172 --> 01:21:19,374
she was saying stuff about men and women.
1874
01:21:19,441 --> 01:21:22,177
So it was about marriage
and about raising kids
1875
01:21:22,244 --> 01:21:23,578
and about how hard it is.
1876
01:21:23,645 --> 01:21:26,381
Oh, great, I'm just gonna
look like a freak, that's all.
1877
01:21:26,448 --> 01:21:27,215
What else is new?
1878
01:21:27,282 --> 01:21:28,850
Shut up!
1879
01:21:28,917 --> 01:21:31,920
This is why some animals eat their young.
1880
01:21:31,987 --> 01:21:36,491
TV in the '80s was a big decade
for the evolution of comedy,
1881
01:21:36,558 --> 01:21:38,426
for the evolution of drama.
1882
01:21:38,493 --> 01:21:40,462
It just pushed everything forward.
1883
01:21:40,528 --> 01:21:42,097
Do you think perhaps this generation
1884
01:21:42,163 --> 01:21:44,666
are paying more attention to the dialogue,
1885
01:21:44,733 --> 01:21:47,335
to the relationships
that they see on television
1886
01:21:47,402 --> 01:21:49,004
than in years previous?
1887
01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:52,173
Well, clearly the people
that are watching our shows are.
1888
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,110
And "Thirtysomething"
1889
01:21:55,176 --> 01:21:57,979
and "Cheers" and "St. Elsewhere."
1890
01:21:58,046 --> 01:22:01,249
These are shows that are smartly written.
1891
01:22:01,316 --> 01:22:03,618
It's their words that define them.
1892
01:22:03,685 --> 01:22:06,288
And I think that's what people like.
1893
01:22:06,354 --> 01:22:07,956
What we're supposed to be here
1894
01:22:08,023 --> 01:22:09,858
is the one thing people can trust.
1895
01:22:09,924 --> 01:22:12,460
If you go out there
like a bunch of night riders,
1896
01:22:12,527 --> 01:22:16,064
what the hell are you but just
another vicious street gang?
1897
01:22:16,131 --> 01:22:19,000
That decade spawned an extraordinary number
1898
01:22:19,067 --> 01:22:24,239
of shows that really carved out
a unique niche for themselves.
1899
01:22:24,306 --> 01:22:27,809
We began to turn television into an art form.
1900
01:22:27,876 --> 01:22:31,012
And for the first time,
people were proud to say,
1901
01:22:31,079 --> 01:22:32,981
"I write for television."
1902
01:22:33,048 --> 01:22:36,751
Up until that point,
television was second class.
1903
01:22:36,818 --> 01:22:39,487
In the '80s, it was something else entirely
1904
01:22:39,554 --> 01:22:42,257
and it was new and it was
kind of interesting.
1905
01:22:42,324 --> 01:22:44,759
It's like everyone in the '80s
1906
01:22:44,826 --> 01:22:46,561
starts to want to tell their stories.
1907
01:22:46,628 --> 01:22:49,064
That's what really changes things.
1908
01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:52,100
The unexpected was more welcome in the '80s.
1909
01:22:52,167 --> 01:22:55,170
Predictability lost its cache.
1910
01:22:55,236 --> 01:22:59,541
Television has an impact
on every era, every decade.
1911
01:22:59,607 --> 01:23:02,711
Television still shapes
the thinking of america like
1912
01:23:02,777 --> 01:23:04,045
no other element in our country.
1913
01:23:04,112 --> 01:23:07,215
Sometimes for the better,
sometimes for the worse.
1914
01:23:07,282 --> 01:23:11,653
It gave rise to people pursuing artistic content
1915
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,690
in a way that I think has raised
the bar in television production
1916
01:23:15,757 --> 01:23:17,092
exponentially.
1917
01:23:17,158 --> 01:23:19,227
I love you guys!
1918
01:23:19,294 --> 01:23:21,563
There's a shift in the '80s from just wanting
1919
01:23:21,629 --> 01:23:24,632
to placate the audience to wanting to please
1920
01:23:24,699 --> 01:23:26,134
and challenge the audience.
1921
01:23:26,201 --> 01:23:27,869
And that's the decade when it happened.
1922
01:23:27,936 --> 01:23:30,638
We had one hell of a run.
Didn't we partner?
1923
01:23:30,705 --> 01:23:32,507
Yeah.
We sure did, Sonny.
1924
01:23:32,574 --> 01:23:34,642
I'm gonna miss you man.
1925
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:37,612
I'm gonna miss you, too, Sonny.
1926
01:23:37,679 --> 01:23:41,883
Can I give you a ride to the airport?
1927
01:23:41,950 --> 01:23:42,984
Why not?
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