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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 - Synced and corrected by chamallow - - www.addic7ed.com - 2 00:00:09,144 --> 00:00:11,715 IVINS: Previously on The Hot Zone Anthrax. 3 00:00:12,101 --> 00:00:14,744 RYKER: The person who called 911, Thomas Morris, 4 00:00:14,794 --> 00:00:17,059 he's dead, so is Joe Kercy. 5 00:00:17,121 --> 00:00:18,705 (SHOUTING) 6 00:00:18,741 --> 00:00:21,575 This investigation now falls under Operation Noble Eagle. 7 00:00:21,610 --> 00:00:24,444 MARA: I'm forwarding you Bruce's email, so you be careful. 8 00:00:24,479 --> 00:00:26,292 When Bruce gets into these moods, 9 00:00:26,329 --> 00:00:28,328 he sees everyone around him as a threat. 10 00:00:28,501 --> 00:00:30,710 RYKER: So tell me more about your lone wolf theory. 11 00:00:30,741 --> 00:00:33,069 TORETTI: All signs point to our perp being 12 00:00:33,082 --> 00:00:36,792 a highly-educated American citizen with scientific expertise. 13 00:00:37,214 --> 00:00:39,367 HAIGWOOD: Bruce can snap. 14 00:00:39,528 --> 00:00:42,252 You don't know what Bruce is capable of. 15 00:00:42,463 --> 00:00:43,764 FOLSON: So what should I do with the report? 16 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:45,032 MCALLISTER: Just file it. 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,801 RYKER: The results came back, it's Ames. 18 00:00:47,836 --> 00:00:49,054 CLEMONS: Ames strain? 19 00:00:49,073 --> 00:00:51,419 I didn't think it existed outside of high security research labs. 20 00:00:51,450 --> 00:00:52,511 RYKER: It doesn't. 21 00:00:52,537 --> 00:00:53,768 RUMSFELD OVER TV: This administration is not afraid 22 00:00:53,768 --> 00:00:54,998 of saying the word Iraq. 23 00:00:54,999 --> 00:00:57,809 Iraq has been on the terrorist list for years. 24 00:00:57,829 --> 00:01:00,882 RYKER: That's USAMRIID, one of only 16 labs in the US 25 00:01:00,892 --> 00:01:04,074 that has the Ames strain which means the anthrax came from 26 00:01:04,099 --> 00:01:06,998 the most respected biodefense lab in the country. 27 00:01:09,053 --> 00:01:14,256 (DISTANT SIRENS) 28 00:01:24,606 --> 00:01:30,606 (DISTANT SIRENS) 29 00:01:38,253 --> 00:01:44,253 ♪ ♪ 30 00:01:52,566 --> 00:01:56,401 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 31 00:01:59,107 --> 00:02:05,107 (DISTANT SIRENS) 32 00:02:11,691 --> 00:02:13,418 IVINS: Sometimes I go places. 33 00:02:16,899 --> 00:02:18,637 Bad neighborhoods in Baltimore, 34 00:02:18,970 --> 00:02:21,839 hoping somebody will pick a fight. 35 00:02:23,383 --> 00:02:24,614 No one's cleaning up the streets. 36 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,292 There's no justice out there. 37 00:02:27,310 --> 00:02:28,667 HALSTROM: Justice? 38 00:02:31,455 --> 00:02:33,570 Are you saying that you carry a loaded weapon? 39 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,022 Bruce, in those moments are you considering 40 00:02:36,042 --> 00:02:37,521 doing bodily harm to someone? 41 00:02:37,631 --> 00:02:40,128 IVINS: People harm people for bad reasons all the time. 42 00:02:40,342 --> 00:02:41,445 (SCOFFS) 43 00:02:41,702 --> 00:02:43,614 If I wanted to do real damage, 44 00:02:43,877 --> 00:02:45,873 every day I work with deadly diseases 45 00:02:45,902 --> 00:02:48,352 no one's never even heard of, USAMRIID's full of them. 46 00:02:48,805 --> 00:02:50,790 One vial from my lab, 47 00:02:51,634 --> 00:02:53,912 I could contaminate the water supply, 48 00:02:54,036 --> 00:02:55,794 wipe out a whole city. 49 00:02:59,037 --> 00:03:00,999 Obviously I'm not that person. 50 00:03:01,172 --> 00:03:04,678 I wanna help people and save lives like my anthrax vaccine. 51 00:03:05,218 --> 00:03:06,838 Why don't they see that? 52 00:03:07,315 --> 00:03:08,668 HALSTROM: Who? 53 00:03:08,928 --> 00:03:12,643 IVINS: The FBI, they subpoenaed anthrax samples from us. 54 00:03:13,092 --> 00:03:16,598 Keep poking on our labs like we're the suspects, us, the good guys, 55 00:03:17,436 --> 00:03:19,602 when there's terrorists out there. 56 00:03:20,812 --> 00:03:21,861 REPORTER OVER TV: I'll tell you, Lisa, 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,474 senators here on Capitol Hill are frustrated 58 00:03:24,505 --> 00:03:28,158 by the FBI's sleepy response to the anthrax attacks. 59 00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:30,524 Five Americans have lost their lives 60 00:03:30,563 --> 00:03:33,206 and yet no terrorists are in custody. 61 00:03:33,333 --> 00:03:36,594 COPAK: I'll make sure we get a call on the Southwest today. 62 00:03:37,649 --> 00:03:40,292 - RYKER: What's going on? - POLK: Copak's adding two more teams 63 00:03:40,305 --> 00:03:44,129 - to the investigation. - COPAK: Miller and Reilly, 64 00:03:44,670 --> 00:03:47,471 you'll join Sykes' team as well. 65 00:03:49,313 --> 00:03:52,716 Senate just voted to send our troops into Iraq, 66 00:03:52,862 --> 00:03:57,211 people's husbands, sons, wives, daughters 67 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:59,857 will be risking their lives to fight terrorists. 68 00:03:59,922 --> 00:04:03,894 We owe it to them to find the terrorists here on our soil. 69 00:04:04,176 --> 00:04:06,128 They've been out on the streets too long. 70 00:04:06,714 --> 00:04:08,347 We need results. 71 00:04:09,136 --> 00:04:13,947 Everyone, run down your own leads, stay in your lanes, 72 00:04:14,245 --> 00:04:16,907 too easy to influence each other, pull focus. 73 00:04:17,268 --> 00:04:19,834 Whoever gets me a smoking gun first 74 00:04:19,978 --> 00:04:23,031 I'm shifting all resources to their team. 75 00:04:24,173 --> 00:04:28,701 America needs to see someone in handcuffs dragged into Guantanamo. 76 00:04:34,693 --> 00:04:40,693 (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) 77 00:04:51,409 --> 00:04:52,878 RYKER: I need to talk to the head of the labs. 78 00:04:52,922 --> 00:04:54,848 Chris, why don't you pull access records? 79 00:04:54,928 --> 00:04:57,734 MOORE: Okay. I'll flag anybody who was working unusual hours 80 00:04:57,749 --> 00:05:00,008 in BSL three and four around the time of the mailing. 81 00:05:00,619 --> 00:05:02,709 RYKER: Yeah, start with the day after 9/11. 82 00:05:03,116 --> 00:05:04,506 - MOORE: After? - RYKER: Yeah. 83 00:05:04,590 --> 00:05:06,263 The powder in the attack letter is cruder 84 00:05:06,273 --> 00:05:08,353 than in the second batch like it was made in a hurry, 85 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,666 probably in response to the towers. 86 00:05:11,088 --> 00:05:13,466 LIVINGSTON: You're turning the microscope on the same scientist 87 00:05:13,491 --> 00:05:15,050 you're asking help solve this. 88 00:05:15,125 --> 00:05:16,574 Got everybody on edge. 89 00:05:16,654 --> 00:05:18,768 RYKER: Dr. Livingston, why did you team drag its feet 90 00:05:18,788 --> 00:05:20,451 submitting samples under subpoena? 91 00:05:20,491 --> 00:05:22,045 LIVINGSTON: Do you have any idea how overtaxed 92 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:23,544 this place has been since 9/11? 93 00:05:23,564 --> 00:05:24,771 RYKER: I got a pretty good idea. 94 00:05:24,835 --> 00:05:26,419 LIVINGSTON: Our samples should be arriving 95 00:05:26,444 --> 00:05:28,449 at your repository in Arizona today. 96 00:05:28,529 --> 00:05:30,577 RYKER: Other labs submitted to the subpoena days ago. 97 00:05:30,578 --> 00:05:31,578 LIVINGSTON: Yeah. 98 00:05:31,702 --> 00:05:33,359 I've spoken to some of those labs. 99 00:05:34,212 --> 00:05:37,004 They don't have agents running all over their facility. 100 00:05:37,012 --> 00:05:38,331 RYKER: Why do you think that is? 101 00:05:40,847 --> 00:05:42,594 We wouldn't be here if we didn't have evidence 102 00:05:42,609 --> 00:05:44,222 leading us back to USAMRIID. 103 00:05:44,431 --> 00:05:47,529 TORETTI: We're gonna need to see psych evals on all personnel 104 00:05:47,544 --> 00:05:50,398 with access to level three and level four hot suites. 105 00:05:50,433 --> 00:05:52,899 LIVINGSTON: Psych evaluations? I mean, we don't do those. 106 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:55,694 TORETTI: You're telling me you have scientists working with 107 00:05:55,709 --> 00:05:58,261 every lethal pathogen on this planet, 108 00:05:58,291 --> 00:06:01,338 and no one ever thought to monitor their mental stability? 109 00:06:03,915 --> 00:06:04,979 (SIGHS) 110 00:06:05,384 --> 00:06:08,010 Okay, well, then we need every personnel file. 111 00:06:20,363 --> 00:06:26,363 ♪ ♪ 112 00:06:34,911 --> 00:06:36,210 (SIGHS) 113 00:06:38,180 --> 00:06:39,346 (COINS RATTLING) 114 00:06:51,193 --> 00:06:52,806 MOORE: I've got another one, 115 00:06:53,952 --> 00:06:55,700 left the lab a little late, 116 00:06:55,725 --> 00:06:57,031 entered the hot suite alone, 117 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,999 stayed for two hours. 118 00:07:01,345 --> 00:07:02,750 RYKER: Add the name. 119 00:07:03,832 --> 00:07:06,483 I'll go see if Dani has flagged anyone on the list. 120 00:07:12,033 --> 00:07:15,511 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 121 00:07:29,932 --> 00:07:33,633 KURZ: You delayed submitting your anthrax samples for weeks. 122 00:07:34,271 --> 00:07:35,775 Arizona says you kept calling 123 00:07:35,814 --> 00:07:37,552 for clarification on how to submit. 124 00:07:37,899 --> 00:07:40,969 - IVINS: So? - KURZ: So, it's pretty simple, Bruce. 125 00:07:41,031 --> 00:07:43,194 IVINS: I sent in the samples. They should have them by now. 126 00:07:43,214 --> 00:07:45,333 KURZ: You used the wrong slants. They won't accept it. 127 00:07:45,363 --> 00:07:47,881 IVINS: Because those generic slants they want a malarkey, 128 00:07:47,901 --> 00:07:50,001 - mine are better. - LIVINGSTON: They don't care, Bruce. 129 00:07:50,031 --> 00:07:51,158 IVINS: Well, they should care. 130 00:07:51,192 --> 00:07:53,049 Does no one give a darn about quality anymore? 131 00:07:53,104 --> 00:07:55,328 KURZ: Just follow their protocol, Bruce. 132 00:07:55,606 --> 00:07:57,780 You're making us look like we've got something to hide. 133 00:07:58,014 --> 00:08:00,615 LIVINGSTON: I've told Arizona to dispose of your submissions. 134 00:08:01,116 --> 00:08:02,546 We've promised that you would comply 135 00:08:02,561 --> 00:08:04,130 and re-submit right away. 136 00:08:04,165 --> 00:08:05,899 (LAUGHS) 137 00:08:06,011 --> 00:08:07,421 IVINS: I'm not surprised, Adya, 138 00:08:07,451 --> 00:08:08,483 since you've been best buddies 139 00:08:08,508 --> 00:08:10,907 - with every FBI agent who's walked in here. - LIVINGSTON: Jesus Christ. 140 00:08:10,956 --> 00:08:12,461 IVINS: I didn't wanna be the one to tell you 141 00:08:12,474 --> 00:08:14,283 but people are beginning to wonder what side you're on. 142 00:08:14,362 --> 00:08:16,567 KURZ: We're all on the same side, Bruce. 143 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:19,565 LIVINGSTON: We should all be careful. 144 00:08:19,992 --> 00:08:21,914 These are not glorified cops with badges. 145 00:08:22,067 --> 00:08:24,063 Some of these agents are scientists. 146 00:08:24,212 --> 00:08:25,478 And if you don't submit, 147 00:08:25,508 --> 00:08:27,161 they will sweep in and do it for you. 148 00:08:29,124 --> 00:08:30,622 HALSTROM: How's your anxiety? 149 00:08:31,113 --> 00:08:33,541 The Valium should help get a handle on that. 150 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:35,477 Have you noticed a difference with the new dosage? 151 00:08:35,492 --> 00:08:36,897 IVINS: We're under attack! 152 00:08:37,180 --> 00:08:39,065 There's no meds that will fix that! 153 00:08:39,260 --> 00:08:42,635 HALSTROM: We're here to handle how you react to those situations. 154 00:08:43,097 --> 00:08:45,807 And was Baltimore the only long drive you've taken lately 155 00:08:45,847 --> 00:08:47,301 or have there been others? 156 00:08:49,327 --> 00:08:50,627 IVINS: We're almost out of time. 157 00:08:50,895 --> 00:08:52,777 HALSTROM: You missed group therapy twice. 158 00:08:53,239 --> 00:08:54,962 Were you on one of your drives? 159 00:08:58,874 --> 00:09:00,388 IVINS: I went to see Mara. 160 00:09:01,142 --> 00:09:02,964 HALSTROM: You said she lived in upstate New York. 161 00:09:03,004 --> 00:09:04,404 Why did you go see her? 162 00:09:11,742 --> 00:09:13,633 IVINS: I must have been really mad. 163 00:09:18,805 --> 00:09:20,166 HALSTROM: Did you have your gun? 164 00:09:25,473 --> 00:09:26,753 What did you do, Bruce? 165 00:09:35,322 --> 00:09:37,154 IVINS: I might have put something in wine. 166 00:09:41,249 --> 00:09:42,859 But I didn't give it to her. 167 00:09:45,434 --> 00:09:46,675 I realized... 168 00:09:50,875 --> 00:09:52,553 It's like that poem, 169 00:09:54,271 --> 00:09:55,439 and all those emails, 170 00:09:55,552 --> 00:09:58,239 I find after I've sent them and I don't remember. 171 00:10:04,996 --> 00:10:06,857 This is all confidential, isn't it? 172 00:10:08,254 --> 00:10:09,455 HALSTROM: Yes. 173 00:10:12,235 --> 00:10:16,231 Unless I feel that you are becoming a threat to yourself, 174 00:10:16,663 --> 00:10:17,963 or to others. 175 00:10:22,864 --> 00:10:25,573 TORETTI: Thank you so much for agreeing to sit down with me today. 176 00:10:26,308 --> 00:10:30,161 I understand how disruptive this is. 177 00:10:30,205 --> 00:10:34,684 And I know you guys are all professionals protecting America 178 00:10:34,694 --> 00:10:37,796 and it's exactly what this interview is going to prove today. 179 00:10:38,606 --> 00:10:41,361 So let's start by talking a little bit 180 00:10:41,391 --> 00:10:43,352 about some of your coworkers. 181 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,704 Tell me about Dr. Kurz. 182 00:10:47,001 --> 00:10:49,548 Does he have any connections overseas, 183 00:10:49,926 --> 00:10:51,335 maybe the Middle East? 184 00:10:51,955 --> 00:10:53,462 MAN: Not that I know of. 185 00:10:53,638 --> 00:10:55,216 He is very dedicated, 186 00:10:55,524 --> 00:10:56,889 doesn't joke around much. 187 00:10:57,172 --> 00:11:00,770 TORETTI: What's it like, uh, working for Dr. Livingston? 188 00:11:00,995 --> 00:11:02,832 Do you ever hear her criticize the government? 189 00:11:02,951 --> 00:11:05,329 MAN 2: Well, no more than anyone else nowadays. 190 00:11:05,342 --> 00:11:08,189 MAN 3: Not sure, uh, honestly it took a while to get to know her. 191 00:11:08,234 --> 00:11:10,319 MAN 4: She's made some amazing breakthroughs here though. 192 00:11:10,384 --> 00:11:13,625 TORETTI: I have heard nothing but good things about, uh, 193 00:11:15,447 --> 00:11:16,653 Dr. Ivins. 194 00:11:16,822 --> 00:11:19,334 MAN: Ivins, what can you say? 195 00:11:19,388 --> 00:11:21,821 MAN 3: Bruce is Bruce. He's always quick with the joke, 196 00:11:21,896 --> 00:11:23,944 he's a seriously good researcher. 197 00:11:23,950 --> 00:11:26,694 I had to cut this tree down in my yard and who shows up on a, 198 00:11:26,728 --> 00:11:28,749 on a Saturday with a chainsaw. 199 00:11:28,813 --> 00:11:30,606 MAN: Helped me out with some vaccine research. 200 00:11:30,616 --> 00:11:33,049 MAN 3: And nobody has a better sense of humor. 201 00:11:34,632 --> 00:11:38,257 TORETTI: I have heard nothing but good things about Bruce Ivins. 202 00:11:39,909 --> 00:11:41,414 (CLEARS THROAT) 203 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:43,226 HALL: Bruce, he's... 204 00:11:45,465 --> 00:11:46,949 kind of a... 205 00:11:47,203 --> 00:11:48,529 I mean... 206 00:11:48,819 --> 00:11:52,620 (DISTANT FOOTSTEPS) 207 00:11:52,833 --> 00:11:55,856 Um, he's, uh, how do I say it? 208 00:11:55,886 --> 00:11:57,257 (LAUGHS) 209 00:11:58,051 --> 00:11:59,406 An odd duck? 210 00:12:00,791 --> 00:12:03,155 I don't know what to tell you. (LAUGHS) 211 00:12:08,964 --> 00:12:10,639 (LAUGHS) 212 00:12:22,051 --> 00:12:28,051 ♪ ♪ 213 00:12:42,436 --> 00:12:48,436 ♪ ♪ 214 00:12:56,707 --> 00:12:59,931 TORETTI: Have you guys come across Bruce Ivins? 215 00:12:59,956 --> 00:13:02,984 MOORE: Uh, yes, he was on the late-night access list. 216 00:13:03,013 --> 00:13:04,135 RYKER: Why, did he say something? 217 00:13:04,170 --> 00:13:05,824 TORETTI: I haven't interviewed him yet but 218 00:13:06,057 --> 00:13:08,994 it's more what everybody isn't saying. 219 00:13:09,225 --> 00:13:14,166 The men really love this guy but there's something with the women, 220 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:15,987 and I've talked to several 221 00:13:15,996 --> 00:13:17,977 and he makes them really uncomfortable. 222 00:13:18,176 --> 00:13:19,271 MOORE: Okay. 223 00:13:19,451 --> 00:13:22,162 So he's not exactly smooth with the ladies, 224 00:13:22,172 --> 00:13:24,395 - how does that link him to terrorism? - TORETTI: Well, it doesn't. 225 00:13:24,405 --> 00:13:27,022 I'm just looking for any behavior that flags. 226 00:13:28,119 --> 00:13:29,836 Did you guys get into the emails yet? 227 00:13:29,886 --> 00:13:32,250 RYKER: Yeah, they're scattered in there. 228 00:13:32,547 --> 00:13:33,858 We have 20,000 of them. 229 00:13:33,888 --> 00:13:36,233 - Server pulls them in chronologically. - (SCOFFS) 230 00:13:37,057 --> 00:13:38,566 Be my guest. 231 00:13:41,446 --> 00:13:43,093 (KNOCKING) 232 00:13:44,567 --> 00:13:47,851 COPAK: Sykes, you up to speed yet on Amerithrax? 233 00:13:47,962 --> 00:13:50,458 SYKES: I've been following it for months, sir, glad to be on board. 234 00:13:50,547 --> 00:13:52,215 - COPAK: Mm-hmm. - SYKES: I just, uh, 235 00:13:52,299 --> 00:13:55,601 I'm wondering if first team isn't maybe veering off-course? 236 00:13:55,632 --> 00:13:58,692 Heard Ryker's been taking up a lot of resources and... 237 00:13:59,667 --> 00:14:03,092 COPAK: We tend to be more direct within these walls, Sykes. 238 00:14:03,284 --> 00:14:04,615 What do you got? 239 00:14:05,158 --> 00:14:07,863 SYKES: A tip from some sources overseas. 240 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:09,886 I know when they were record sniffing. 241 00:14:10,757 --> 00:14:11,965 Take a look. 242 00:14:12,033 --> 00:14:13,808 If you see something there, 243 00:14:15,310 --> 00:14:16,998 I wanna head up this team. 244 00:14:19,673 --> 00:14:22,062 You could put Ryker back on petri dish duty. 245 00:14:29,167 --> 00:14:31,377 (SIGHS) 246 00:14:38,811 --> 00:14:40,417 TORETTI: I think I just found something. 247 00:14:40,452 --> 00:14:41,902 MOORE: What's it say? 248 00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:49,863 RYKER: "I'm a little dream self, short and stout. 249 00:14:49,907 --> 00:14:53,233 I'm the other half of Bruce when he lets me out." 250 00:14:54,499 --> 00:14:56,237 TORETTI: Is that good enough for you? 251 00:14:57,149 --> 00:14:59,936 Can I do a preliminary inquiry now? 252 00:15:00,438 --> 00:15:03,539 ♪ ♪ 253 00:15:19,023 --> 00:15:20,255 ♪ ♪ 254 00:15:20,291 --> 00:15:22,557 (PLAYS OFF-PITCH) 255 00:15:28,198 --> 00:15:29,764 (PLAYS OFF-PITCH) 256 00:15:32,702 --> 00:15:34,502 (PLAYS OFF-PITCH) 257 00:15:34,538 --> 00:15:35,770 (GLASS SHATTERING) 258 00:15:39,543 --> 00:15:41,443 (PLAYS OFF-PITCH) 259 00:15:41,478 --> 00:15:42,610 (GRUNTS) 260 00:15:54,138 --> 00:15:55,646 IVINS: Sorry, Helen. 261 00:15:56,229 --> 00:15:57,998 It's okay, I'll clean it up. 262 00:16:01,324 --> 00:16:02,696 It should be fine. 263 00:16:11,010 --> 00:16:14,035 (JET ENGINE HUMMING) 264 00:16:18,358 --> 00:16:20,458 (GARBAGE TRUCK RUMBLING) 265 00:16:23,530 --> 00:16:27,378 (GLASS RATTLING) 266 00:16:29,169 --> 00:16:33,638 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 267 00:16:51,851 --> 00:16:57,690 (VACUUM HUMMING) 268 00:17:12,019 --> 00:17:14,279 TORETTI: I love it. You too? 269 00:17:14,439 --> 00:17:16,181 RYKER: Yeah, me too. 270 00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:20,132 That lone wolf profile you sent to the microbiology community. 271 00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:23,632 - TORETTI: Yeah. - RYKER: Remember that hit we got in Seattle? 272 00:17:23,967 --> 00:17:26,324 Her name is Dr. Nancy Haigwood. 273 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,591 TORETTI: Thought that was a dead end. 274 00:17:27,627 --> 00:17:29,694 RYKER: Yeah, so did the superior who shelved it. 275 00:17:29,729 --> 00:17:31,974 But there was a newer agent who did the right thing 276 00:17:32,014 --> 00:17:34,165 and tried to send it up the chain but got shot down. 277 00:17:34,201 --> 00:17:38,067 The point is, Dr. Haigwood claims that Bruce Ivins 278 00:17:38,086 --> 00:17:40,151 stalked her in grad school, 279 00:17:40,483 --> 00:17:42,082 moved down the block from her, 280 00:17:42,108 --> 00:17:43,975 and even vandalized her house. 281 00:17:44,010 --> 00:17:46,262 And get this, at one point, 282 00:17:46,479 --> 00:17:48,128 her dissertation notebook was stolen. 283 00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:50,679 And whoever took it left a trail of clues for her 284 00:17:50,699 --> 00:17:53,918 - to find it using a USPS mailbox. - (LAUGHS) 285 00:17:54,247 --> 00:17:55,513 The problem is, 286 00:17:56,367 --> 00:17:58,433 - all of this is anecdotal. - TORETTI: Oh, come on. 287 00:17:58,452 --> 00:18:00,602 He screwed up his repository submissions. 288 00:18:00,617 --> 00:18:02,568 He's clocking late night lab hours... 289 00:18:02,583 --> 00:18:03,899 - RYKER: Mm-hmm. All at the time - TORETTI: Alone. 290 00:18:03,928 --> 00:18:06,363 of the attack letters but that doesn't get us into court. 291 00:18:06,472 --> 00:18:08,328 TORETTI: Well, I took some of the emails home 292 00:18:08,353 --> 00:18:11,078 for little bedtime reading, no comments please. 293 00:18:11,883 --> 00:18:13,189 This one, 294 00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:17,776 "My shrink says I have a paranoid personality disorder, 295 00:18:17,943 --> 00:18:19,681 an early sign of schizophrenia, 296 00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:23,171 I am becoming a person I do not want to be." 297 00:18:25,187 --> 00:18:28,617 RYKER: No, what we need is a direct link to the letters. 298 00:18:28,652 --> 00:18:31,441 TORETTI: The language in his emails is eerily similar. 299 00:18:31,455 --> 00:18:34,251 There's another one here to an old coworker, 300 00:18:34,668 --> 00:18:38,823 "Osama Bin Laden has now decreed death on all Jews and Americans." 301 00:18:38,858 --> 00:18:41,037 RYKER: Those letters were published in all the papers. 302 00:18:41,067 --> 00:18:42,998 He could just be mirroring the language. 303 00:18:43,052 --> 00:18:46,404 TORETTI: No, look at the date, September 26. 304 00:18:46,771 --> 00:18:50,202 We didn't find the first attack letters until three weeks later. 305 00:19:02,206 --> 00:19:03,609 - (GASPS) - (CRASHING) 306 00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:05,178 LIVINGSTON: Dammit, Bruce! 307 00:19:05,722 --> 00:19:06,861 You scared me. 308 00:19:08,752 --> 00:19:11,592 Now step back, they're anthrax spores. 309 00:19:11,681 --> 00:19:14,005 IVINS: They have you working on the vaccine, don't they? 310 00:19:16,005 --> 00:19:17,813 That used to be my job. 311 00:19:19,471 --> 00:19:21,139 A lot of changes around here. 312 00:19:26,436 --> 00:19:27,762 It's okay. 313 00:19:30,536 --> 00:19:32,085 I'm the one that made you lose your grip. 314 00:19:32,125 --> 00:19:33,515 I'll clean it up. 315 00:19:35,884 --> 00:19:39,209 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 316 00:19:50,122 --> 00:19:52,455 RYKER: Does Copak know you're circling USAMRIID? 317 00:19:53,791 --> 00:19:55,881 Do you even have a suspect or you're just 318 00:19:56,293 --> 00:19:58,393 throwing a little gasoline on the weeds 319 00:19:58,413 --> 00:20:00,572 to see if any snakes comes slithering out? 320 00:20:01,843 --> 00:20:03,735 SYKES: Eyes on your own page, Ryker. 321 00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:05,403 We're all supposed to follow our own lead 322 00:20:05,413 --> 00:20:07,936 so we don't influence each other. 323 00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:10,611 RYKER: That doesn't mean pitching a circus tent 324 00:20:10,651 --> 00:20:12,493 in the middle of someone else's investigation. 325 00:20:14,622 --> 00:20:20,622 ♪ ♪ 326 00:20:22,688 --> 00:20:25,160 LIVINGSTON: No one thought this was possible but you can see, 327 00:20:25,210 --> 00:20:27,931 plain as day, different colonies of Ames 328 00:20:27,956 --> 00:20:30,470 with identifiable characteristics. 329 00:20:31,579 --> 00:20:33,550 RYKER: How did you make the colonies morph? 330 00:20:34,449 --> 00:20:35,863 LIVINGSTON: It wasn't intentional. 331 00:20:36,177 --> 00:20:38,415 It was one of our ongoing anthrax projects, 332 00:20:38,546 --> 00:20:39,870 a colleague got busy, 333 00:20:40,455 --> 00:20:41,811 the cultures overgrew. 334 00:20:42,307 --> 00:20:44,982 We never considered incubation time as a factor. 335 00:20:45,146 --> 00:20:47,177 RYKER: Arizona's been trying to sequence the genomes 336 00:20:47,192 --> 00:20:49,822 all this time and you just stumbled upon this? 337 00:20:50,374 --> 00:20:52,871 LIVINGSTON: Even with all these minds and brains, 338 00:20:52,894 --> 00:20:55,541 accidents are often how the biggest breakthroughs happen. 339 00:20:57,150 --> 00:20:59,727 RYKER: If we can identify a specific morph in the spores 340 00:20:59,728 --> 00:21:02,135 of the attack letters then match it to the subpoenaed samples, 341 00:21:02,144 --> 00:21:03,415 we've got our smoking gun. 342 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,630 LIVINGSTON: Once I can get back into the BSL4 lab, 343 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,248 I will forward you my findings. 344 00:21:07,615 --> 00:21:08,926 RYKER: What do you mean back into the lab? 345 00:21:09,065 --> 00:21:10,390 LIVINGSTON: Well, we had a spill. 346 00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:12,574 Bruce surprised me, 347 00:21:12,624 --> 00:21:14,624 I didn't see him so I knocked over a tray. 348 00:21:14,669 --> 00:21:16,134 RYKER: Wait. Dr. Ivins was there? 349 00:21:16,315 --> 00:21:17,584 (SIGHS) 350 00:21:17,608 --> 00:21:19,440 LIVINGSTON: He's been pretty edgy lately, 351 00:21:19,555 --> 00:21:21,943 sees me as a traitor for working with the Bureau. 352 00:21:22,896 --> 00:21:24,510 RYKER: Did he leave the lab with you? 353 00:21:24,604 --> 00:21:27,309 LIVINGSTON: No, he took it upon himself to decon the area 354 00:21:27,314 --> 00:21:28,660 and some nearby offices. 355 00:21:28,694 --> 00:21:30,199 - RYKER: Including his? - LIVINGSTON: Yeah. 356 00:21:30,530 --> 00:21:32,145 Brought in a whole team. 357 00:21:32,661 --> 00:21:35,640 It's a little overboard if you ask me but that's Bruce. 358 00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:38,603 RYKER: Our number one suspect just cleaned up his own crime scene. 359 00:21:38,936 --> 00:21:41,039 I got to bring in Ivins tonight. 360 00:21:41,354 --> 00:21:42,803 TORETTI: What? No. 361 00:21:42,823 --> 00:21:44,962 We don't have enough ammo to confront him. 362 00:21:44,977 --> 00:21:47,539 RYKER: He could literally be destroying evidence as we speak. 363 00:21:49,241 --> 00:21:51,625 TORETTI: Let me just try to dig up something from his past, 364 00:21:51,630 --> 00:21:55,105 something that can push his buttons, uh, a motive. 365 00:21:55,149 --> 00:21:57,567 RYKER: Go ahead and track down his childhood sled if you want. 366 00:21:58,044 --> 00:21:59,787 If he knows we're circling him, 367 00:21:59,841 --> 00:22:01,519 the cleanup might not end here. 368 00:22:01,526 --> 00:22:03,794 He could head home and destroy anything incriminating. 369 00:22:03,829 --> 00:22:06,201 TORETTI: We may only have one shot at a confession here 370 00:22:06,231 --> 00:22:07,963 and he is not primed for it. 371 00:22:07,978 --> 00:22:09,164 RYKER: And if we give him more time, 372 00:22:09,165 --> 00:22:11,469 we may lose any chance we have at nailing him. 373 00:22:11,643 --> 00:22:13,217 He's making rash moves, 374 00:22:13,753 --> 00:22:15,336 I'm ordering a polygraph. 375 00:22:15,748 --> 00:22:17,470 TORETTI: If you're determined to do this, 376 00:22:17,858 --> 00:22:21,110 the way in has to be through his hero's complex. 377 00:22:21,146 --> 00:22:23,085 He wants to prove how smart he is. 378 00:22:23,115 --> 00:22:25,582 - We get him talking... - RYKER: It's not my first interrogation, 379 00:22:25,922 --> 00:22:27,493 - I got it. - (PHONE LINE RINGS) 380 00:22:27,523 --> 00:22:29,067 DISPATCH OVER PHONE: Lebanon PD, how can I help? 381 00:22:29,126 --> 00:22:31,058 TORETTI: Agent Toretti FBI here, 382 00:22:31,089 --> 00:22:35,258 I am looking for some information on a former resident, Bruce Ivins. 383 00:22:35,501 --> 00:22:39,598 I'd be interested in anything fro his early years in Ohio, 384 00:22:39,631 --> 00:22:41,931 should narrow your search down to '50s and '60s. 385 00:22:41,966 --> 00:22:43,091 DISPATCH OVER PHONE: I'll see what I can find. 386 00:22:43,102 --> 00:22:44,700 TORETTI: Okay, um, I'll actually hold. 387 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,935 DISPATCH OVER PHONE: No problem. 388 00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:59,214 (DOOR OPENS) 389 00:23:00,737 --> 00:23:02,871 - RYKER: Dr. Ivins? - IVINS: Yeah. 390 00:23:13,346 --> 00:23:14,829 (CLEARS THROAT) 391 00:23:17,685 --> 00:23:18,901 IVINS OVER TV: I hear you're one of us. 392 00:23:20,401 --> 00:23:21,686 IVINS: A microbiologist. 393 00:23:22,844 --> 00:23:23,911 RYKER: I am. 394 00:23:25,505 --> 00:23:27,645 IVINS: A microbiologist in the FBI. 395 00:23:28,826 --> 00:23:29,909 Neat. 396 00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:34,962 RYKER: Uh, before they administer the polygraph, 397 00:23:35,067 --> 00:23:36,695 I thought I'd ask you a few questions 398 00:23:36,715 --> 00:23:38,815 about the samples you submitted to us. 399 00:23:39,410 --> 00:23:41,903 IVINS: Oh, yeah. Well, 400 00:23:42,583 --> 00:23:44,858 I already got an earful about my misstep. 401 00:23:46,296 --> 00:23:48,028 RYKER: So you intentionally submitted 402 00:23:48,043 --> 00:23:50,064 inadequate anthrax samples under subpoena? 403 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,722 IVINS: Yes. 404 00:23:52,606 --> 00:23:55,843 But only because the slants you guys requested were inferior. 405 00:23:56,742 --> 00:23:59,540 RYKER: And the weeks leading up to September 18th, 2001, uh, 406 00:23:59,576 --> 00:24:01,870 the postmark date of the first attack letter, 407 00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:05,703 did you work extra hours, 408 00:24:06,025 --> 00:24:08,492 unaccompanied hours in the BSL4 lab 409 00:24:08,527 --> 00:24:11,138 with Bacillus Anthracis Ames? 410 00:24:11,887 --> 00:24:15,055 IVINS: After 9/11 everyone at USAMRIID was working late. 411 00:24:19,270 --> 00:24:21,022 RYKER: You recognize this post office? 412 00:24:22,115 --> 00:24:23,162 IVINS: Yeah. 413 00:24:24,925 --> 00:24:27,074 RYKER: Did you ever purchase pre-stamped envelopes 414 00:24:27,108 --> 00:24:28,523 at this post office? 415 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:30,738 IVINS: A couple of times I guess. 416 00:24:33,709 --> 00:24:35,161 RYKER: What about this email, 417 00:24:38,130 --> 00:24:41,501 referencing anthrax and Saddam Hussein? 418 00:24:45,746 --> 00:24:47,613 IVINS: You read my personal emails? 419 00:24:51,405 --> 00:24:53,019 You know that was a joke? 420 00:24:57,338 --> 00:24:58,584 RYKER: What about these? 421 00:25:03,573 --> 00:25:05,371 Did you do this, Dr. Ivins? 422 00:25:08,447 --> 00:25:09,917 IVINS: You talked to Nancy? 423 00:25:12,513 --> 00:25:13,611 (SCOFFS) 424 00:25:15,988 --> 00:25:19,354 How is a stupid thing that I did 20 years ago at all relevant? 425 00:25:21,096 --> 00:25:22,725 Okay. Fine, yes. 426 00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:26,577 When I was younger, 427 00:25:26,691 --> 00:25:28,536 I had obsessive behaviors linked 428 00:25:28,551 --> 00:25:31,154 to sororities specifically, Kappa Kappa Gamma, 429 00:25:31,159 --> 00:25:33,456 of which Nancy Haigwood was an alumna. 430 00:25:35,074 --> 00:25:36,936 Is it peculiar? Yes. 431 00:25:38,073 --> 00:25:40,371 Can I explain it? Nope. 432 00:25:43,647 --> 00:25:44,963 Happy? 433 00:25:52,584 --> 00:25:55,051 You know, that's not the only thing I did. 434 00:25:57,733 --> 00:25:59,108 RYKER: What else, Dr. Ivins? 435 00:26:01,247 --> 00:26:04,171 IVINS: I let myself into a sorority house, 436 00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:05,328 two actually. 437 00:26:06,346 --> 00:26:10,864 I stole their ritual book and a cypher to decode it. 438 00:26:12,105 --> 00:26:13,970 No one ever suspected me. 439 00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:18,050 But I didn't hurt anyone. 440 00:26:21,866 --> 00:26:23,840 See, I'm not hiding anything. 441 00:26:25,515 --> 00:26:26,825 RYKER: Aren't you? 442 00:26:27,271 --> 00:26:29,071 Didn't you email a colleague, 443 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,288 another friend on numerous occasions about a different, Bruce? 444 00:26:34,197 --> 00:26:38,106 Saying that you were concerned about your psychological state. 445 00:26:39,633 --> 00:26:44,368 Did you ever experience extreme anxiety, dissociation? 446 00:26:48,923 --> 00:26:50,642 IVINS: I know what you're doing. 447 00:26:55,066 --> 00:26:56,549 Look, 448 00:26:58,646 --> 00:27:01,389 I may not be the most popular guy. 449 00:27:02,134 --> 00:27:05,461 There might even be a few people who have said I'm odd 450 00:27:05,572 --> 00:27:06,962 behind my back. 451 00:27:08,719 --> 00:27:10,444 But does that make me a killer? 452 00:27:11,865 --> 00:27:13,205 I mean, 453 00:27:13,608 --> 00:27:16,773 when are you guys gonna realize I'm here to help you? 454 00:27:23,022 --> 00:27:25,151 Yes. Fine, yes. 455 00:27:43,749 --> 00:27:45,753 How'd you even end up doing this, 456 00:27:48,062 --> 00:27:50,773 a microbiologist in the FBI? 457 00:27:52,424 --> 00:27:54,931 Pathogen biology is a pretty competitive field. 458 00:27:54,981 --> 00:27:56,115 We can't all be the ones making 459 00:27:56,135 --> 00:27:58,275 scientific breakthroughs, I suppose, but. 460 00:27:58,518 --> 00:28:00,280 RYKER: I wanted to serve my country. 461 00:28:02,897 --> 00:28:04,580 IVINS: Is that what you tell yourself? 462 00:28:08,784 --> 00:28:09,911 IVINS OVER TV: Because I can't imagine 463 00:28:09,931 --> 00:28:11,267 - going in and see... - MOORE: Ryker's already burned through 464 00:28:11,267 --> 00:28:13,957 - most of what we've got on him. - IVINS OVER TV: Of wearing a suit at a desk. 465 00:28:14,007 --> 00:28:16,176 - MOORE: You know, silver bullets. - RYKER OVER TV: That's not for everybody. 466 00:28:16,411 --> 00:28:17,634 IVINS OVER TV: Oh, okay. 467 00:28:18,019 --> 00:28:19,047 TORETTI: Maybe a splinter, 468 00:28:19,627 --> 00:28:21,776 enough to irritate him and get his walls down. 469 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:22,872 IVINS OVER TV: I am curious, though. 470 00:28:24,642 --> 00:28:27,129 What went wrong with your dissertation, Agent Ryker? 471 00:28:27,935 --> 00:28:30,679 IVINS: Mistaking a eukaryotic cell for a prokaryotic? 472 00:28:30,722 --> 00:28:32,652 (LAUGHTER) 473 00:28:34,336 --> 00:28:36,370 I knew plenty of guys like you in college. 474 00:28:37,589 --> 00:28:39,476 - RYKER: Is that right? - IVINS: Oh, yeah. 475 00:28:39,806 --> 00:28:41,601 TORETTI: Ivins is feeling empowered. 476 00:28:41,616 --> 00:28:43,555 IVINS OVER TV: I can tell half a dozen in the halls around the labs... 477 00:28:43,713 --> 00:28:46,399 TORETTI: He should get him to open up and if he loosens up 478 00:28:46,419 --> 00:28:48,754 then maybe I can get some answers about his past. 479 00:28:48,755 --> 00:28:52,161 IVINS OVER TV: This guy is just, you know, smart. 480 00:28:53,428 --> 00:28:55,772 IVINS: But it didn't matter how hard they studied, 481 00:28:55,927 --> 00:28:59,097 they just didn't have the imagination. 482 00:29:01,201 --> 00:29:03,723 It does take a unique blend of talents, 483 00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:08,938 plus a willingness to skate on the edge 484 00:29:10,499 --> 00:29:12,476 which I'm guessing is difficult for you. 485 00:29:14,797 --> 00:29:15,797 But hey, 486 00:29:16,607 --> 00:29:20,031 would a sane person tie a key to a kite in a thunderstorm? 487 00:29:22,922 --> 00:29:24,265 RYKER: You know that Franklin didn't actually 488 00:29:24,269 --> 00:29:25,929 fly the kite in that storm, right? 489 00:29:27,092 --> 00:29:28,269 He had his son do it. 490 00:29:31,276 --> 00:29:34,171 Even noble people do unforgivable things, don't they? 491 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:37,741 IVINS: You're missing my point. 492 00:29:39,782 --> 00:29:42,212 Are you familiar with the Stentor Roeselii? 493 00:29:42,562 --> 00:29:45,001 It's a single-celled ciliate micro-organism 494 00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:47,686 capable of making intelligent, complex decisions 495 00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:50,056 all without the help of a central nervous system. 496 00:29:50,583 --> 00:29:51,993 Zero support. 497 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:56,024 No other organism on earth has such an innate gift. 498 00:29:57,687 --> 00:29:59,351 RYKER: Is that how you see yourself? 499 00:30:00,006 --> 00:30:02,399 Some sort of gifted Stentor Roeselii? 500 00:30:04,578 --> 00:30:06,450 What does that make guys like me? 501 00:30:07,155 --> 00:30:09,101 IVINS: Plasmodial slime mold? 502 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,905 Think about it, 503 00:30:12,774 --> 00:30:14,998 I know most Americans aren't paying attention, 504 00:30:15,053 --> 00:30:16,552 but you guys had signs, 505 00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:18,741 that 9/11 was gonna happen. 506 00:30:19,163 --> 00:30:20,583 Flight lessons, 507 00:30:21,050 --> 00:30:23,636 a warning of an attack on New York. 508 00:30:24,395 --> 00:30:27,071 And now, you can't figure out who sent these letters. 509 00:30:27,151 --> 00:30:28,243 (COINS RATTLING) 510 00:30:28,283 --> 00:30:31,461 All the hours you put in and you just can't measure up. 511 00:30:31,622 --> 00:30:33,188 (JET ENGINE RUMBLING) 512 00:30:33,342 --> 00:30:34,467 So instead, 513 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:40,374 you are harassing hard-working patriots like me. 514 00:30:43,095 --> 00:30:46,570 Have you even done your homework, Agent Ryker? 515 00:30:47,583 --> 00:30:49,390 I mean, what about Thompson, 516 00:30:50,368 --> 00:30:51,644 Benjadi, 517 00:30:52,289 --> 00:30:53,775 or even Kurz? 518 00:30:54,901 --> 00:30:57,224 There are plenty of people with my same access. 519 00:30:57,259 --> 00:30:59,860 RYKER: But they didn't point the finger at their colleagues, did they? 520 00:31:00,734 --> 00:31:02,446 You're the only doing that. 521 00:31:04,611 --> 00:31:06,120 RYKER OVER TV: Here's what I think. 522 00:31:06,155 --> 00:31:08,230 - TORETTI: No. No. No, no. - RYKER OVER TV: Just like the clue 523 00:31:08,255 --> 00:31:09,918 you left Haigwood to find her notebook... 524 00:31:09,926 --> 00:31:11,780 RYKER: I think you wanna be found out. 525 00:31:13,483 --> 00:31:15,865 This is some sort of twisted experiment, isn't it? 526 00:31:16,103 --> 00:31:17,564 (DOOR OPENS) 527 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,375 TORETTI OVER TV: Uh, sorry, Agent Ryker. 528 00:31:19,468 --> 00:31:21,733 - Sorry I'm late. - RYKER: Oh, it's okay. 529 00:31:21,738 --> 00:31:23,302 We have a few more questions to go. 530 00:31:23,337 --> 00:31:27,055 TORETTI: Good, I have another one, if that's all right. 531 00:31:27,218 --> 00:31:29,725 - TORETTI: Mr. Ivins... - IVINS: Doctor. 532 00:31:31,517 --> 00:31:32,798 It's Dr. Ivins. 533 00:31:33,547 --> 00:31:34,843 And you are who again? 534 00:31:34,873 --> 00:31:37,072 TORETTI: Oh, I'm just another hunk of slime mold. 535 00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:40,255 Doctor Ivins, 536 00:31:40,999 --> 00:31:43,757 in your own words, can you describe your childhood for me? 537 00:31:46,307 --> 00:31:48,376 IVINS: I don't see what that has to do with any of this. 538 00:31:49,166 --> 00:31:52,095 TORETTI: Maybe it's better we focus on one event in particular. 539 00:31:55,004 --> 00:31:58,626 The police responded to a domestic disturbance 540 00:31:58,642 --> 00:32:00,082 to your house. 541 00:32:01,925 --> 00:32:03,722 Did you witness your mother's attack? 542 00:32:09,864 --> 00:32:11,115 IVINS: This was an accident. 543 00:32:12,813 --> 00:32:14,773 TORETTI: Neighbors described your mother 544 00:32:14,793 --> 00:32:18,582 as unpredictable, irrational, and violent. 545 00:32:25,312 --> 00:32:27,194 You were there, weren't you, Bruce? 546 00:32:34,021 --> 00:32:35,440 IVINS: Are we almost done here? 547 00:32:36,077 --> 00:32:38,878 TORETTI: Childhood trauma can have a lasting effect on a person. 548 00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:42,710 Did your mother ever hurt you, Bruce? 549 00:32:47,307 --> 00:32:49,055 IVINS: My mother loved me. 550 00:32:50,782 --> 00:32:52,798 She loved me very much. 551 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:14,862 OPERATOR: Now, Doctor Ivins, 552 00:33:14,897 --> 00:33:16,835 you understand that your appearance here today 553 00:33:16,865 --> 00:33:19,015 and taking this polygraph test is voluntary? 554 00:33:19,035 --> 00:33:20,035 IVINS: Yes. 555 00:33:29,811 --> 00:33:31,511 OPERATOR: To establish a baseline, 556 00:33:31,591 --> 00:33:34,123 is your name Bruce Edwards Ivins? 557 00:33:34,137 --> 00:33:35,289 IVINS: Yes. 558 00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:37,757 OPERATOR: Were you born in Lebanon, Ohio? 559 00:33:37,911 --> 00:33:39,013 IVINS: Yes. 560 00:33:39,341 --> 00:33:41,828 OPERATOR: Hmm. Okay. 561 00:33:44,594 --> 00:33:47,184 OPERATOR OVER TV: Now, we are going to run 562 00:33:47,185 --> 00:33:49,901 something called a stim test. 563 00:33:49,906 --> 00:33:51,540 IVINS: To measure my adrenal response. 564 00:33:51,633 --> 00:33:52,984 OPERATOR: I'm gonna need you to lie 565 00:33:52,994 --> 00:33:54,524 when you answer my next question. 566 00:33:54,553 --> 00:33:56,574 That will give us indicators to look for 567 00:33:56,584 --> 00:33:58,743 if you lie in response to a later question. 568 00:33:59,722 --> 00:34:01,216 IVINS: But I'm not gonna lie to you. 569 00:34:03,167 --> 00:34:04,825 OPERATOR: Are you a time traveler? 570 00:34:05,426 --> 00:34:06,855 (LAUGHS) 571 00:34:08,216 --> 00:34:09,352 IVINS: Sorry. 572 00:34:10,668 --> 00:34:12,569 Yes, I am a time traveler. 573 00:34:14,021 --> 00:34:16,109 OPERATOR: Last question, Doctor Ivins. 574 00:34:16,918 --> 00:34:21,381 In the fall of 2001, did you mail letters containing Anthrax 575 00:34:21,395 --> 00:34:23,858 via the United States Postal Service? 576 00:34:28,038 --> 00:34:29,135 IVINS: No. 577 00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:38,830 (CLEARS THROAT) 578 00:34:40,881 --> 00:34:42,260 TORETTI: You get any hits off him? 579 00:34:42,846 --> 00:34:45,313 OPERATOR: We got a good read on the baseline for comparison. 580 00:34:45,914 --> 00:34:47,314 RYKER: Where did he lie? 581 00:34:47,682 --> 00:34:50,293 OPERATOR: Some lines indicated elevated stress, 582 00:34:50,333 --> 00:34:52,057 but no answer showed deception. 583 00:34:55,287 --> 00:34:57,894 RYKER: What about when you asked if he mailed the attack letters? 584 00:34:58,619 --> 00:35:01,076 OPERATOR: No, it looks like he's not your guy. 585 00:35:11,025 --> 00:35:15,680 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 586 00:35:32,431 --> 00:35:35,099 (BIKE WHEELS RATTLING) 587 00:35:37,103 --> 00:35:38,384 WOMAN: So, 588 00:35:38,924 --> 00:35:41,164 I told him exactly what I thought. 589 00:35:42,095 --> 00:35:45,210 That he wasn't supporting me in my decision. 590 00:35:45,918 --> 00:35:48,635 I used exactly the words that we discussed 591 00:35:48,645 --> 00:35:49,876 and you know what? 592 00:35:50,491 --> 00:35:53,119 He shut his trap for the rest of the night. It worked. 593 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,195 - MAN: Oh. - WOMAN 2: That's really great to hear. 594 00:35:55,263 --> 00:35:56,552 WOMAN 3: Yeah. 595 00:35:56,585 --> 00:35:57,907 HALSTROM: Bruce? 596 00:35:58,509 --> 00:35:59,663 Bruce? 597 00:36:00,618 --> 00:36:02,840 Would you like to tell us about your week? 598 00:36:05,597 --> 00:36:07,109 IVINS: Yeah, it was wonderful. 599 00:36:09,858 --> 00:36:11,347 Very productive. 600 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:14,738 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 601 00:36:15,133 --> 00:36:18,899 TORETTI: Ryker, I made some calls and it's debatable. 602 00:36:18,937 --> 00:36:21,058 It, it's not the easiest to trick a poly. 603 00:36:21,083 --> 00:36:23,831 - Unless he's a complete sociopath. - RYKER: Hmm. 604 00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:26,084 What's your gut say? 605 00:36:27,251 --> 00:36:29,682 TORETTI: I think he felt like he had the upper hand with you. 606 00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:32,978 That might have put him at ease 607 00:36:33,247 --> 00:36:34,723 and thrown his vitals off. 608 00:36:34,759 --> 00:36:36,394 RYKER: So, you're saying I screwed up? 609 00:36:36,419 --> 00:36:38,256 TORETTI: No, it was a solid tactic, 610 00:36:38,285 --> 00:36:41,259 but I think it is safe to say that your cracks were showing 611 00:36:41,284 --> 00:36:43,210 through that perfectly pressed suit of yours. 612 00:36:46,403 --> 00:36:48,487 COPAK: All right, Sykes, what do you got? 613 00:36:50,707 --> 00:36:52,081 TORETTI: Who the hell is that? 614 00:36:52,442 --> 00:36:55,015 SYKES: Steven Hatfill received his medical training in Africa. 615 00:36:55,492 --> 00:36:57,984 Hatfill just happened to be on the ground in Rhodesia 616 00:36:58,088 --> 00:37:00,893 during the most deadly Anthrax outbreak in recent history. 617 00:37:00,950 --> 00:37:04,031 He trained first responders on bioweapon threats, 618 00:37:04,165 --> 00:37:07,098 which would include anthrax. 619 00:37:07,323 --> 00:37:09,690 RYKER: Do you have a direct link between Hatfill and the letters? 620 00:37:10,544 --> 00:37:12,430 It says right here he's a virologist. 621 00:37:12,569 --> 00:37:14,133 A virus guy, not bacteria. 622 00:37:15,493 --> 00:37:17,165 SYKES: About his science background, 623 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,773 Mr. Hatfill claimed to have a degree that there's no record of. 624 00:37:21,927 --> 00:37:24,052 And to be a part of a royal medical society 625 00:37:24,057 --> 00:37:25,357 that hasn't heard of him. 626 00:37:25,377 --> 00:37:27,249 RYKER: A few people in this room have résumés 627 00:37:27,268 --> 00:37:28,867 that look better than reality. 628 00:37:29,632 --> 00:37:32,445 You can't just pick up anthrax at a local drugstore. 629 00:37:32,541 --> 00:37:34,580 Do we have proof that he had access to it? 630 00:37:34,616 --> 00:37:37,531 SYKES: Actually, Hatfill did work at USAMRIID. 631 00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:38,742 For two years. 632 00:37:38,817 --> 00:37:41,756 Now, we don't know yet what Hatfill had access to then, 633 00:37:41,781 --> 00:37:44,576 but we do know that he tried to get higher security clearances. 634 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:46,793 One of which was suspended before 9/11. 635 00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:48,920 REILLY: And if he wasn't handling deadly bacteria, 636 00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:50,643 wanna tell me why he was taking Cipro 637 00:37:50,648 --> 00:37:52,400 at the time the attack letters were mailed? 638 00:37:52,842 --> 00:37:56,163 COPAK: All right. Our top suspect is Hatfill. 639 00:37:56,371 --> 00:37:58,754 Ryker, I'm putting you on Sykes' team. 640 00:37:58,784 --> 00:38:00,258 He's short a science guy. 641 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:01,460 TORETTI: Does that include me? 642 00:38:01,490 --> 00:38:05,214 COPAK: No, he's already got a behavioral analyst. 643 00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:07,308 Head up to the fifth floor for reassignment. 644 00:38:07,323 --> 00:38:08,547 You too, Agent Moore. 645 00:38:10,262 --> 00:38:12,104 - COPAK: Well done. - SYKES: Thank you, sir. 646 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:14,477 RYKER: I'm staying on Ivins. 647 00:38:14,939 --> 00:38:15,966 MOORE: Really? 648 00:38:16,438 --> 00:38:18,790 I mean, the guy passed his polygraph like a valedictorian. 649 00:38:18,826 --> 00:38:20,385 RYKER: They don't have any more on Hatfill 650 00:38:20,394 --> 00:38:22,406 than we do on Ivins and the science doesn't add up. 651 00:38:22,426 --> 00:38:24,327 TORETTI: But, you know, if they make Hatfill the target, 652 00:38:24,347 --> 00:38:26,261 we are gonna catch hell for veering off course. 653 00:38:26,262 --> 00:38:28,089 RYKER: No, I'll be the one to catch hell 654 00:38:28,114 --> 00:38:29,733 because I'm the only one who is reassigned. 655 00:38:29,792 --> 00:38:31,470 TORETTI: All right. I'm in. 656 00:38:38,563 --> 00:38:39,710 MOORE: What's the plan? 657 00:38:44,913 --> 00:38:46,764 RYKER: What do you think about seeing if one of the people 658 00:38:46,769 --> 00:38:48,412 that Bruce confided in, 659 00:38:48,754 --> 00:38:51,237 emailed, would be willing to contact him? 660 00:38:52,026 --> 00:38:53,639 TORETTI: I don't think he's gonna confess like that, 661 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,129 but it is worth a shot. 662 00:38:56,415 --> 00:38:58,129 RYKER: Chris, I need you to surveil him. 663 00:38:58,316 --> 00:38:59,730 See what he does in his downtime. 664 00:38:59,766 --> 00:39:01,697 Especially if he thinks he sailed through the polygraph, 665 00:39:01,698 --> 00:39:04,066 - he might make a misstep we can use. - MOORE: Okay. 666 00:39:04,104 --> 00:39:05,371 TORETTI: And what about you? 667 00:39:07,193 --> 00:39:08,970 RYKER: Looks like I'm stuck playing science guy 668 00:39:09,010 --> 00:39:10,619 for Sykes's wild goose chase. 669 00:39:12,883 --> 00:39:14,872 - I'll check in when I can. - TORETTI: All right. 670 00:39:22,138 --> 00:39:27,754 (KEYBOARD CLICKING) 671 00:39:36,270 --> 00:39:42,268 ♪ ♪ 672 00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:46,906 (LAUGHS) 673 00:39:49,922 --> 00:39:54,680 (HELICOPTER HUMMING) 674 00:39:56,016 --> 00:39:58,430 REPORTER: Excuse me, sir. Have you found the Anthrax Killer? 675 00:39:58,585 --> 00:40:02,538 (HELICOPTER HUMMING) 676 00:40:02,594 --> 00:40:05,040 - Is the suspect in custody, sir? - REPORTER 2: The citizens deserve to know, 677 00:40:05,046 --> 00:40:06,901 are we in danger, sir? 678 00:40:07,398 --> 00:40:09,793 RYKER: Another inexplicable leak to the press, 679 00:40:10,259 --> 00:40:12,089 complete with a circus. 680 00:40:13,175 --> 00:40:14,950 You're going to let the public indict this guy 681 00:40:14,981 --> 00:40:16,973 before we have any physical evidence? 682 00:40:17,426 --> 00:40:18,907 Where is Hatfill, anyway? 683 00:40:18,943 --> 00:40:20,224 SYKES: Got him at a motel. 684 00:40:20,274 --> 00:40:21,395 He thinks we're doing this to everyone 685 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,187 who's worked at USAMRIID. Come on. 686 00:40:24,849 --> 00:40:27,081 - Meet Tinkerbell and her cohort. - (DOGS WHINING) 687 00:40:29,849 --> 00:40:31,648 Let's give them the scent. 688 00:40:32,777 --> 00:40:35,424 (HELICOPTER HUMMING) 689 00:40:35,743 --> 00:40:40,584 RYKER: I just need visual confirmation on air sample 23-Q37 690 00:40:41,012 --> 00:40:43,299 from the letter that Senator Daschle received. 691 00:40:43,978 --> 00:40:45,424 SYKES: Confirmed. 692 00:40:55,345 --> 00:40:57,004 RYKER: All right, boys. 693 00:40:57,714 --> 00:41:00,185 - There you go. - (SNIFFING) 694 00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:02,251 Okay. 695 00:41:03,086 --> 00:41:05,663 MAN: All right, boy, you got it. Find it, find it. 696 00:41:13,930 --> 00:41:19,930 ♪ ♪ 697 00:41:27,877 --> 00:41:33,877 (SNIFFING) 698 00:41:34,050 --> 00:41:35,977 - (BARKING) - SYKES: What do you know? 699 00:41:36,152 --> 00:41:38,851 (BARKING) 700 00:41:38,888 --> 00:41:40,102 RYKER: Hatfill's place. 701 00:41:40,276 --> 00:41:41,856 (BARKING) 702 00:41:41,891 --> 00:41:42,891 SYKES: Suit up. 703 00:41:42,892 --> 00:41:46,594 (BARKING) 704 00:41:50,154 --> 00:41:54,200 HATFILL: So, I'm in the back of a truck in freakin' Rhodesia, right? 705 00:41:54,578 --> 00:41:56,047 And who ambushes us? 706 00:41:56,673 --> 00:41:58,346 Marxist rebels. 707 00:41:58,405 --> 00:41:59,487 REILLY: You're kidding me. 708 00:41:59,547 --> 00:42:00,874 HATFILL: What choice do I have? 709 00:42:01,007 --> 00:42:02,814 I leap off the back of a truck, 710 00:42:02,878 --> 00:42:04,939 but I forget that I have a pack on, 711 00:42:05,088 --> 00:42:07,902 I fall flat on my face and break my damn nose! 712 00:42:07,927 --> 00:42:09,347 - (LAUGHS) - I... 713 00:42:09,381 --> 00:42:11,759 - I couldn't breathe right for years! - (PHONE BEEPS) 714 00:42:12,459 --> 00:42:14,678 I just went under for sinus... 715 00:42:19,484 --> 00:42:20,903 That's my house. 716 00:42:20,995 --> 00:42:22,546 REPORTER OVER TV: Ongoing since October. 717 00:42:22,561 --> 00:42:24,001 HATFILL: You said routine search. 718 00:42:24,383 --> 00:42:27,158 REPORTER 2 OVER TV: Agents in Hazmat suits are searching the home 719 00:42:27,173 --> 00:42:30,087 of the person of interest in the Anthrax murders. 720 00:42:30,152 --> 00:42:32,301 We haven't been able to get confirmation 721 00:42:32,325 --> 00:42:34,296 or more details from the FBI, 722 00:42:34,308 --> 00:42:36,853 but this could be the first real breakthrough we've seen 723 00:42:36,908 --> 00:42:39,003 on the Amerithrax case in months. 724 00:42:39,286 --> 00:42:41,876 REPORTER 3 OVER TV: A new development in the Anthrax investigation, 725 00:42:41,916 --> 00:42:44,194 FBI agents today searched the home 726 00:42:44,284 --> 00:42:47,739 of a former government researcher Steven Hatfill 727 00:42:47,783 --> 00:42:50,300 is a specialist in infectious diseases 728 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,378 who's done research for the government since the '80s. 729 00:42:54,828 --> 00:42:57,802 MAN: Got it, pulled up a photography unit right out front, so. 730 00:42:57,876 --> 00:43:01,040 MAN 2: Yeah. Second degree until something's detected. 731 00:43:02,118 --> 00:43:04,530 WOMAN: We might need to process this. 732 00:43:05,805 --> 00:43:08,274 RYKER: None of our rapid test are picking up spores. 733 00:43:09,943 --> 00:43:11,744 In fact, we're not finding anything that points 734 00:43:11,774 --> 00:43:13,645 to where Hatfill cultured his Anthrax. 735 00:43:15,214 --> 00:43:16,580 So, what do you think? 736 00:43:16,674 --> 00:43:18,957 He's got some sort of secret lair somewhere? 737 00:43:20,183 --> 00:43:21,762 SYKES: No, a storage unit. 738 00:43:21,888 --> 00:43:23,818 We're trying to locate it and get a warrant. 739 00:43:24,223 --> 00:43:26,330 - WOMAN: Agent Sykes? - SYKES: Yeah, what do you got? 740 00:43:27,646 --> 00:43:29,418 WOMAN: It's an unpublished novel. 741 00:43:30,053 --> 00:43:31,290 There's a synopsis. 742 00:43:31,631 --> 00:43:33,146 It's about a terrorist who unleashes 743 00:43:33,161 --> 00:43:35,504 a deadly plague on Washington D.C. 744 00:44:20,888 --> 00:44:21,888 IVINS: Excuse me, 745 00:44:23,623 --> 00:44:24,869 where's the computer? 746 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,505 LIBRARIAN: FBI took it. 747 00:44:28,528 --> 00:44:31,441 Saved up a year to upgrade those. 748 00:44:44,379 --> 00:44:45,709 LIVINGSTON OVER PHONE: Hi, Agent Ryker, 749 00:44:45,734 --> 00:44:46,936 this is Dr. Livingston. 750 00:44:46,995 --> 00:44:48,914 - RYKER: Hmm. Yes? - LIVINGSTON OVER PHONE: Just got off the phone 751 00:44:48,915 --> 00:44:50,630 with the repository in Arizona. 752 00:44:50,694 --> 00:44:53,360 They ran our new morph test on samples from different labs, 753 00:44:53,762 --> 00:44:54,884 USAMRIID's among them. 754 00:44:54,894 --> 00:44:56,061 Everything came up negative. 755 00:44:57,178 --> 00:44:58,697 RYKER: All the USAMRIID samples? 756 00:44:58,752 --> 00:45:00,291 LIVINGSTON OVER PHONE: None were a match to the Anthrax 757 00:45:00,292 --> 00:45:01,292 used in the letters. 758 00:45:02,416 --> 00:45:04,957 Hope that answers any questions about the integrity of our team. 759 00:45:09,052 --> 00:45:10,477 RYKER: Thank you, um, 760 00:45:12,304 --> 00:45:14,642 I'll, uh, I'll be in touch. 761 00:45:18,956 --> 00:45:21,672 SYKES: We got the warrant for the storage unit. 762 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,582 (CLOCK TICKING) 763 00:45:35,499 --> 00:45:38,600 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 764 00:45:47,011 --> 00:45:51,746 ♪ ♪ 765 00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:57,585 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 766 00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:12,330 ♪ ♪ 767 00:46:24,414 --> 00:46:30,414 (VENTILATED BREATHING) 768 00:46:43,066 --> 00:46:46,100 (GRUNTING) 769 00:46:47,103 --> 00:46:49,770 (THUNDER RUMBLING) 770 00:47:02,285 --> 00:47:08,285 ♪ ♪ 771 00:47:25,941 --> 00:47:31,941 ♪ ♪ 772 00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:54,330 ♪ ♪ 773 00:47:56,237 --> 00:47:57,622 SYKES: Holy crap. 774 00:47:57,838 --> 00:48:00,010 Hatfill has a map to Camp David. 775 00:48:02,243 --> 00:48:06,611 (CLICKING) 776 00:48:17,224 --> 00:48:18,747 RYKER: I got one here, too. 777 00:48:19,026 --> 00:48:21,037 (CLICKING) 778 00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:30,276 RYKER: It's hand drawn, don't know by whom, 779 00:48:30,603 --> 00:48:33,671 but it looks like it leads to a remote location in the woods. 780 00:48:34,874 --> 00:48:37,034 SYKES: You still think we got the wrong guy? 781 00:48:39,879 --> 00:48:45,879 ♪ ♪ 782 00:48:55,525 --> 00:48:56,893 (MUSIC PLAYS THROUGH CREDITS). 783 00:48:57,037 --> 00:49:02,037 - Synced and corrected by chamallow - - www.addic7ed.com - 60356

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