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- Tonight on "the mproof is out there.".

A glowing orbs splits in the sky.

Two things are dropping down.

Holy crap.

Disturbing creatures swim the sea.

- These aren't natural animals

but rather the product of some sort of bizarre mutation.

And are California wildfires caused

by laser weapons?

The us government was using energy weapons

to purposely start these forest fires.

Around the globe are videos.

What the heck is this?

Photos and sounds

that defy explanation.

Is it some kind of unidentified object?

The plane that was literally frozen in the air?

What are they?

Some sort of bizarre mutation.

- Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof.

- I'm Tony Harris.

And as a journalist for more than 30 years,

I've followed the facts where they take me.

Now, I'm bringing that spirit of investigation

to the world's strangest sounds and images.

We'll analyze each one with top experts.

- It's a credible case.

It's a credible video.

And pass a verdict on what it is.

- This video is clearly faked.

- The proof starts now.

Hi everybody.

And welcome to "the proof is out there."

Let me start by asking you to imagine you're

at a family gathering, celebrating the 4th of July,

when an unexpected guest shows up.

And it's not your crazy uncle.

It's something up in the sky.

It's independence day in alamance, north Carolina,

and a local man is enjoying a barbecue with his family.

Fireworks are going off intermittently.

So he's been looking at the sky all evening

when he suddenly sees something even more spectacular.

It's a classic orb shaped ufo,

the kind we've seen in several videos, some real, some fake.

And what makes this footage extra special is

that it goes on for more than eight minutes.

God, I wish I had some binoculars.

Now look at what happens here

at the six and a half minute Mark.

- Oh wow. - Look at that.

- Something's coming off of it.

Two things are coming off of it.

You said that.

Where is it at?

One went up and one's coming down.

- What is it? - Holy crap.

Look at this.

The orb seems to bifurcate

and seconds later, it splits again.

Oh, now something's coming out of the other one.

Holy ,

- third one's coming out. - Oh my gosh.

There's three different-

oh my god, that's crazy.

Like other orbs seen around the world,

this one had no wings or obvious means of propulsion.

It's hard to judge its speed, but others have been clocked

by commercial pilots at over 500 miles per hour.

And it's pulsating, too.

Man, that is nuts.

Journalist Alexis Brooks who writes

and speaks about ufos says the duration

of this sighting is important.

- Some individuals that have long contact encounters,

that is exceeding five minutes or more

may actually be having a literal contact encounter

without them being consciously aware of it.

Could it be the non-human intelligence

or the occupants of the craft were actually making contact

with the witness and vice versa?

And here, we get some action going

on here, boys.

- The witness said he later tried

to find some earthly explanation for the incident,

even checking with a nearby military base.

But to this day, he says he's gotten no answers.

Our experts may be able to change that.

Our video analyst Marc d'Antonio begins by looking

at the surrounding factors involved in this event.

- I stepped through it frame

by frame to try to isolate the components

and equate them with something that we might already know.

It's actually pretty high altitude.

For starters, d'Antonio is positive

it couldn't be a bird.

- Birds don't have that kind of reflectivity to them.

Even geese at high altitude,

you can still detect that they're birds.

He's just as sure it's not a plane or a drone.

Planes and drones,

they have to follow federal aviation administration rules

for lighting, and this object had none of that.

Nor could it be a natural phenomenon

like a meteor.

It just hangs in the sky too long.

- Meteors are momentary objects.

They go through the sky and then they're gone.

So what was it?

The secret could be in that strange splitting.

- Here, you can see, in this image, you can see how

it's a teardrop shape and these objects are falling away.

And the object that's way up there

has changed brightness tremendously.

Now my thinking takes me down the path of weather balloon.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time

a weather balloon was mistaken for a ufo.

In fact, the government initially claimed it

was a weather balloon that caused the roswell incident,

but that still doesn't explain how this thing

could split apart and move off in different directions.

- I would guess that this is a weather balloon where,

whatever was attached to it, broke off.

And when something like this happens and the resistance

of the air will tend to streamline it

and make it more into a teardrop shape.

And that shape is what I think we're seeing here.

That theory sounds plausible.

But then to our surprise, atmospheric scientist,

Deanna hence, shoots it out of the sky.

- So I do think it's really unlikely

that this is any kind of, you know, weather instrument.

They come down on a little parachute

and they wouldn't emit light this brightly like this.

It doesn't seem to be meteorologically related.

You see it, Dee?

You see a ufo?

- So america, is at proof or not?

It doesn't appear to be a bird or a plane.

Could it be a weather balloon?

Maybe, but a local weather service later told the witness,

there were none in the area.

Until we get more solid information,

we're gonna call this a genuine ufo.

Coming up.

Is this what happens when you dump tons

of nuclear waste into the sea?

- So when DNA is subject to radiation,

you could end up with anything, virtually.

- When "the proof is out there" continuous.

There are an estimated three and a half trillion fish

in our oceans, which leaves us

with a lot of unknowns about what actually lives down there.

And we've discovered photographs of some

of the most disturbing sea creatures ever caught on camera.

The question, were they spawned

by an even more disturbing man-made disaster?

This is the barents sea,

located between Russia and the north pole.

It's one of the most remote and unexplored places on earth.

And one deep sea fishermen there has brought creatures

to the surface that are so bizarre,

his Instagram account has made headlines.

Fish with bulging lips,

what looks like human dentures

and fluorescent red colored eyes,

creatures with heads shaped like aliens.

The images are so bizarre and there are so many of them,

journalist mj banias who covers the unexplained

says it's made people wonder

if there's something unnatural going on below.

- These creatures look so bizarre

that people naturally question something's wrong.

One theory is that these aren't natural animals,

but rather, the product of some sort of bizarre mutation.

Look again for yourself.

Mutation seems like a reasonable explanation for this.

And it turns out, the idea of mutated Russian fish

may not be farfetched,

as our military expert, Tim mcmillan explains.

- Any government that has any kind

of nuclear proliferation program has always had this problem

of how do you get rid of your waste?

And for a number of years,

the Soviet union's answer was dumping it

into the barents sea.

17,000 nuclear containers,

multiple different nuclear powered ships were sunk,

and an entire nuclear submarine from a period

of about the 1950s until the collapse of the Soviet union.

Whoa, so the Soviets used the barents sea

as a nuclear toilet bowl for decades

and as our physicist, Dr. Hakeem oluseyi explains,

radiation and DNA don't mix.

- Radiation is really tiny subatomic particles

that are flying along.

And when they encounter a DNA molecule,

they can strike it and break it and change it.

So when DNA is subject to radiation,

then what happens is the instructions

for writing a new animal are changed.

So you could end up with anything, virtually.

- A recent scientific study found

that a Soviet nuclear submarine

at the bottom of the barents sea was nearly

a million times more radioactive than previously estimated.

So are these freaky fish the result of all that dumping?

Our marine biologist, Dr. Shea conger looks for answers.

Conger looks first at the fish's shape and scales.

- If these fish were impacted by radiation,

we would expect to see strange bumps

or protrusions on different parts of the body.

But I don't see any signs of radiation sickness

or poisoning throughout this animal.

Its epidermal tissue actually seems to be pretty intact.

Okay, so conger says these fish aren't the victims

of a nuclear waste dump, but then,

what else could explain some of these bizarre features?

Conger has a theory.

- They undergo a process of what we call barometric trauma.

It turns out that some

of these fish have the bends.

When human divers come up too quickly from the deep,

the change in pressure causes the gases

in their body to expand.

Well, same for fish.

- Often, these fish will come to the surface

with their stomach sticking out of their mouth

because of the extreme pressure of having the gases

within their body tissues expand at such a quick rate.

But there's got to be more

to this fish story, right?

Congers says the real story was millions

of years in the making.

- Each species on earth has a very predictable

and well-defined evolutionary pathway

that makes it what it is today.

These animals aren't alien, they're just adapted

to an extremely different environment than we're used to.

- The jury is still out about the longterm effects

this contamination will have on marine species.

Dr. Conger cautions that the impact

could take decades to be fully felt.

For us, natural evolution and the bends explain

these weird looking fish.

So our verdict, this is a non-nuclear phenomenon.

Up next, California wildfires are destroying homes,

but why are the trees left standing?

- The us government was using energy weapons

to purposely start these forest fires.

- When "the proof is out there" returns.

In the wake of the recent California wildfires,

a strange and sinister theory emerged from the ashes.

The video you're about to see had some folks asking

if the terrifying natural destruction

we observed was, in fact, unnatural.

- Pretty much total destruction.

I've seen every house destroyed on this road.

California wildfires have become

a perennial disaster.

In the aftermath,

aerial footage shows wrenching images of destruction.

- Here, we see the devastating after effects

of what these wildfires are leaving in their wake.

But look closely at this shot.

Does something seem off to you?

- One of the things that we're seeing that

is absolutely crazy are entire houses incinerated,

burned to the ground while trees surrounding them

are completely left intact, untouched.

The question is what is causing these wildfires?

Let's zoom in on that.

It does seem odd that the trees are standing

while the houses are reduced to ash.

Journalist mj banias says images like these

have prompted some wild explanations

that are getting attention online.

- According to Internet conspiracy theories,

there's a secret government program known as agenda 21,

the purpose of which is to force people

to relocate into major cities.

And then, as the conspiracy theory goes,

the government can then exercise more control

over the population.

And how is this allegedly being accomplished?

Forest fires and laser guns.

- The theory is that the us government

was using direct energy weapons to purposefully start

these forest fires to clear out towns

or for some other nefarious reason.

- Laser weapons are much more

than staples of science fiction.

During the cold war, the us and ussr poured resources

into orbital space weapons, even deploying some.

The so-called star wars missile defense system

was the most famous, but perhaps the most intriguing

was the air force's yal-1,

which featured a laser system mounted

in a turret on a plane's nose.

And that's just the technology we know about.

As you know, the us military did just launch space force,

but could the government really

be using secret energy weapons

to start fires and control society?

We turn to our military expert, Tim mcmillan,

for an explanation.

- The idea of directed energy weapons, it's very exciting.

I mean, we've heard about that since Star Trek.

Tim says it's true that the major space powers

are all developing energy weapons

to take out each other's satellites,

but striking the earth's surface?

- That is something that's very difficult to achieve

and not technically, that we know of, achievable.

Whenever the laser's being projected down,

it's got to travel through the atmosphere, clouds.

Any one of these factors are going to cause

what's called atmospheric blooming.

And by the time it reaches earth,

it's not gonna have the amount of energy

to start a fire and burn something.

So if a laser weapon is not possible,

then what can account for the strange aftermath footage?

Science writer, Mick west, who lives in wildfire country,

says it's simple: Houses burned much easier than trees.

- But it's actually quite hard to burn green wood.

To demonstrate, west decides to do his own test.

- I went into my attic and I got a piece of scrap wood.

Then I went out into the field behind my house

and I cut down a branch of a tree.

And then I took both of these pieces of wood

and I put them in my fire

and I built identical piles of kindling under each one.

And then I lit them both at the same time.

The wood from my attic caught fire

and burned part way through.

The wood that I just cut from a tree

just got a bit black on the outside, just got a bit sooty.

Even though they had the exact same small fires underneath,

which shows that green wood doesn't burn,

but the wood in your house does.

- In fact, the average live tree

is about 50% water by weight.

And while theories about directed energy weapons

aren't gonna go away any time soon,

that fact leads us to our unequivocal verdict.

These fires are natural phenomenon.

Coming up, famous reincarnations.

Did Anne frank come back

as this other young writer?

That's kind of incredible.

- When "the proof is out there returns."

You ever get that feeling that you've been here before,

and I'm not talking about deja vu.

I'm talking about reincarnation.

Millions believe in it as a matter of faith,

but could there be photographic proof it's real?

On the silver screen,

actor Alec Baldwin has played dozens of characters.

But some people think his greatest role

wasn't an acting job, but instead,

as the 13th president of the United States,

Millard Fillmore.

Look closely, those eyes, the nose, the mouth,

and there's more.

The Internet has been buzzing

with photos of celebrities

and their uncanny counterparts.

Not only Alec Baldwin.

Actors like Matthew McConaughey as this 1800s doctor,

Orlando bloom as a 19th century composer,

and Johnny Depp as this early 20th century choir director.

What if these aren't merely striking resemblances

but actual evidence of past lives?

For barbro karlen, the idea of reincarnation isn't a theory.

- I was about two and a half years old

and my mother was calling my name.

And then I said, "yes, but my name is not barbro.

My name is Anne frank."

Born in 1954, barbro was a young writer

like Anne frank and published her first book

of poetry at age 12.

And barbro insists she has vivid memories of her past life

as the famed Dutch diarist.

- I woke up almost every night, screaming and crying,

and reliving what happened to me in my past life.

It's like two worlds.

I live in two worlds at the same time.

To her family, that seemed implausible,

until they visited Anne frank's home in Amsterdam.

- I said, "I know exactly where we are," and I led the way.

And sure enough, there it was.

Barbro told a tour guide

there were pictures missing from the walls.

- And she said, "barbro, you are absolutely right.

They have taken down those pictures to put them

in frames, but they were there.

And Anne frank did put up those pictures.

How could you know this?"

Barbro was just one of many.

Researchers at the university of Virginia corroborated

1500 cases of past life memories.

Could Baldwin, depp and McConaughey be other such cases?

Now these celebrity lookalikes are certainly striking

but are they really images of the same person?

Let's put these photos to the test.

Hoan ton-that is the co-founder and ceo of clearview ai,

a widely used facial recognition technology.

- The technology has really caught up.

And so with the clearview ai algorithm,

if you've lost some weight and your face is thinner,

if you grow out a long beard, we can still recognize you.

We gave hoan the photo of Alec Baldwin to see

if it's a match with Millard Fillmore.

In our first test,

anything below a 0.8 on the scale is a match.

Incredibly, the first test for Alec Baldwin came back just

within range for the match category, a .78.

Could it be possible?

Not only are their faces similar,

but Alec Baldwin's passion for politics is well known.

It was once even rumored that he wanted to run for senate.

Clearview repeated the test,

this time using 1.0 as the threshold.

And once again, the results were astonishing.

- This score is 1.04,

barely above threshold for a match.

So very, very close to the line there.

And that's kind of incredible.

The number was so shocking

that a professional facial examiner

was brought in to compare the photos.

Hoan explains that analysis.

- When you look here,

the first one is a lower lobe exterior shapes

are quite different.

And the other inconsistency was between the lips.

And you can see that the photo a has a rounded upper lip

and photo b,

which is Alec Baldwin, has a thinner upper lip.

So the photos are close, but not a perfect match.

Neither was McConaughey.

And we're still waiting to hear about bloom and depp,

but the question remains, is reincarnation real?

Barbro karlen's answer is yes.

A hopeful yes.

- I have had these memories and I have gone

through this to be able to tell

that there is always goodness and light

at the end of the tunnels.

- So is there truth to any of this?

Well, I can't say, but there is definitely something

very compelling about barbro karlen's story.

But when it comes to Alec Baldwin and Millard Fillmore,

our verdict, not a match.

And that's our show for tonight.

If you have any comments or suggestions,

please reach out to us.

I'm Tony Harris reminding you to keep those cameras rolling.

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