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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,071 --> 00:00:03,638 - My name is Kelly Ferchau. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:03,638 --> 00:00:05,163 I've worked for the public libraries 4 00:00:05,163 --> 00:00:07,922 of Saginaw for 35 years. 5 00:00:07,922 --> 00:00:10,839 Working in a library as old as this 6 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 7 00:00:12,293 --> 00:00:15,207 or any building as old as this, I guess, 8 00:00:15,207 --> 00:00:18,837 you always hear about oh, is it haunted? 9 00:00:18,837 --> 00:00:20,250 Are there ghosts? 10 00:00:20,250 --> 00:00:22,917 Do you ever experienced anything 11 00:00:24,285 --> 00:00:25,862 out of the ordinary? 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,007 Every once in awhile, while we're looking at old newspapers, 13 00:00:33,007 --> 00:00:36,735 we might read something where someone actually died 14 00:00:36,735 --> 00:00:40,385 in the library, so you know, then you think 15 00:00:40,385 --> 00:00:44,217 well, maybe that's that person's spirit is here. 16 00:00:49,893 --> 00:00:51,711 - I know there are portions of the library 17 00:00:51,711 --> 00:00:54,479 that some of the employees either try to avoid 18 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:56,709 or absolutely avoid 19 00:00:56,709 --> 00:00:59,895 because they have experienced paranormal activity 20 00:00:59,895 --> 00:01:02,062 and were very upset by it. 21 00:01:10,458 --> 00:01:13,789 - To me, this is one of the creepiest areas of the library. 22 00:01:13,789 --> 00:01:17,048 I cannot come down here without getting goose bumps 23 00:01:17,048 --> 00:01:20,034 on my arms and the back of my neck. 24 00:01:20,034 --> 00:01:23,879 One time I was walking down one of the aisles 25 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:26,577 and there was someone in front of me, 26 00:01:26,577 --> 00:01:28,675 no one behind me, and I felt something 27 00:01:28,675 --> 00:01:31,046 tugging on the back of my sweater. 28 00:01:31,046 --> 00:01:33,738 And that is a feeling that you know what that is. 29 00:01:33,738 --> 00:01:35,553 It couldn't have been anything else. 30 00:01:35,553 --> 00:01:36,891 There was no one there. 31 00:01:36,891 --> 00:01:39,830 I turned around, nothing but darkness. 32 00:01:43,384 --> 00:01:46,301 - Hoyt library has a colorful past. 33 00:01:47,497 --> 00:01:51,360 People talked about some of the paranormal activity 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,441 that was happening at Hoyt. 35 00:01:54,441 --> 00:01:57,761 You didn't hear it all the time, but one of the things 36 00:01:57,761 --> 00:02:00,788 that I heard was that there was a video, 37 00:02:00,788 --> 00:02:04,648 a short clip online from Hoyt library, 38 00:02:04,648 --> 00:02:06,042 of a chair in the basement, 39 00:02:06,042 --> 00:02:07,923 and it was just spinning. 40 00:02:07,923 --> 00:02:10,280 And so I did go out on the Internet and I looked at that 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,658 and I was quite amazed by it. 42 00:02:12,658 --> 00:02:15,755 Because at that time I wasn't terribly interested 43 00:02:15,755 --> 00:02:17,068 the paranormal. 44 00:02:17,068 --> 00:02:20,208 I can't really say that I believed in ghosts, 45 00:02:20,208 --> 00:02:21,990 but I didn't disbelieve. 46 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:23,284 I'm a believer now. 47 00:02:24,621 --> 00:02:27,183 - Right now, we're headed into the fiction room. 48 00:02:27,183 --> 00:02:31,055 This originally was the reading room. 49 00:02:31,055 --> 00:02:34,638 I've only heard one story about there being 50 00:02:35,531 --> 00:02:37,314 an encounter here. 51 00:02:37,314 --> 00:02:41,177 A patron a few years ago was down here looking 52 00:02:41,177 --> 00:02:42,844 at works of fiction, 53 00:02:43,827 --> 00:02:45,640 and there was a little girl 54 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:47,999 sitting here, a little blond girl, 55 00:02:47,999 --> 00:02:50,434 about four years old. 56 00:02:50,434 --> 00:02:54,367 And all I could think is that maybe it's a little girl 57 00:02:54,367 --> 00:02:56,538 who's waiting for story time. 58 00:02:56,538 --> 00:02:59,889 When this section of the library was the children's 59 00:02:59,889 --> 00:03:02,623 department, and the librarian would sit here 60 00:03:02,623 --> 00:03:05,891 on the floor with the children and read them a story. 61 00:03:15,326 --> 00:03:17,993 - The area that we're in now is called the tech attic. 62 00:03:17,993 --> 00:03:20,534 This is really a storage area for the library. 63 00:03:20,534 --> 00:03:23,201 This is probably the most active 64 00:03:25,826 --> 00:03:29,866 and most disturbing of all the places in the library 65 00:03:29,866 --> 00:03:32,721 where people have experienced some kind of haunting. 66 00:03:32,721 --> 00:03:36,247 This particular room has had everything happen 67 00:03:36,247 --> 00:03:39,993 from books moving by themselves on the shelf, 68 00:03:39,993 --> 00:03:43,276 footsteps that sound like someone with hobnail shoes 69 00:03:43,276 --> 00:03:46,140 walking around, when there's no one in the room, 70 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:49,775 to lights being messed around with, 71 00:03:49,775 --> 00:03:51,423 turned on, turned off. 72 00:03:51,423 --> 00:03:53,667 When you hit the switch, the lights go on one way, 73 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:56,715 and then they go off, and the only other light switch 74 00:03:56,715 --> 00:03:59,484 is at the bottom of the stairs. 75 00:03:59,484 --> 00:04:00,860 - When was the last time that happened? 76 00:04:00,860 --> 00:04:04,280 - Just now, actually, when we came in the room. 77 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,980 Yeah, I'm a little bit creeped out by it right now. 78 00:04:08,980 --> 00:04:11,555 - This the Michigan room. 79 00:04:11,555 --> 00:04:14,100 Several people who work here 80 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:16,076 don't like going into this room. 81 00:04:16,076 --> 00:04:18,546 In 2010, I was here. 82 00:04:18,546 --> 00:04:19,938 It was late at night. 83 00:04:19,938 --> 00:04:22,493 The library was about ready to close, 84 00:04:22,493 --> 00:04:25,322 and I was working at the desk. 85 00:04:25,322 --> 00:04:27,655 I looked up and going across 86 00:04:29,297 --> 00:04:30,858 inside the room 87 00:04:30,858 --> 00:04:33,525 was the shadow figure of a woman 88 00:04:34,433 --> 00:04:35,861 in a long dress. 89 00:04:35,861 --> 00:04:39,310 She just went from this side to that side 90 00:04:39,310 --> 00:04:41,393 and that's all there was. 91 00:04:43,485 --> 00:04:45,129 Here on the grand staircase 92 00:04:45,129 --> 00:04:49,520 when I leave at night and other people leave at night 93 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,973 we always had a feeling that somebody is 94 00:04:52,973 --> 00:04:54,473 up on the landing, 95 00:04:56,327 --> 00:04:58,524 just staring at us, 96 00:04:58,524 --> 00:05:00,330 waiting for us to leave. 97 00:05:00,330 --> 00:05:01,966 And I never look back 98 00:05:01,966 --> 00:05:03,998 and I never look at the window, 99 00:05:03,998 --> 00:05:06,228 just in case there's a reflection. 100 00:05:06,228 --> 00:05:10,288 We always get this feeling that we, the living, 101 00:05:10,288 --> 00:05:13,197 we have the building during the day 102 00:05:13,197 --> 00:05:15,642 and there's like a shift change when 103 00:05:15,642 --> 00:05:17,612 we close the building at night. 104 00:05:17,612 --> 00:05:21,122 And sometimes I think they're a little bit 105 00:05:21,122 --> 00:05:24,436 more anxious to get the building to themselves 106 00:05:24,436 --> 00:05:27,263 and you just feel it when I walk down the stairs 107 00:05:27,263 --> 00:05:30,765 that it's time for us all to leave. 108 00:05:44,285 --> 00:05:46,816 - One of the things that I find so fascinating 109 00:05:46,816 --> 00:05:49,192 about this location specifically 110 00:05:49,192 --> 00:05:51,049 is how many different spirits are said 111 00:05:51,049 --> 00:05:52,593 to haunt the Hoyt library. 112 00:05:52,593 --> 00:05:55,588 How many different apparitions have been identified. 113 00:05:55,588 --> 00:05:58,482 And one has to wonder, how could there be so many ghosts 114 00:05:58,482 --> 00:06:01,813 trapped within the walls of one building like that. 115 00:06:01,813 --> 00:06:03,436 What's the cause of that? 116 00:06:03,436 --> 00:06:05,380 And one of the theories I have is 117 00:06:05,380 --> 00:06:07,669 you gotta consider multiple things. 118 00:06:07,669 --> 00:06:09,894 The land that the Hoyt was built on 119 00:06:09,894 --> 00:06:12,019 at one point used to be a jail 120 00:06:12,019 --> 00:06:14,119 where many people were murdered violently 121 00:06:14,119 --> 00:06:15,442 in the 1800s. 122 00:06:15,442 --> 00:06:17,621 On top of that, people have died here 123 00:06:17,621 --> 00:06:19,553 since it's been a library, so you've got 124 00:06:19,553 --> 00:06:21,081 to wonder if that plays a part. 125 00:06:21,081 --> 00:06:24,591 And it's also a theory that spirits can be attached 126 00:06:24,591 --> 00:06:27,123 to certain objects, and the Hoyt 127 00:06:27,123 --> 00:06:28,850 has one of the biggest collections, 128 00:06:28,850 --> 00:06:31,486 if not the biggest collection of Saginaw history 129 00:06:31,486 --> 00:06:33,053 and Saginaw's past. 130 00:06:33,053 --> 00:06:36,351 So all of this together could really account for why 131 00:06:36,351 --> 00:06:37,753 there's been so many different things 132 00:06:37,753 --> 00:06:39,283 seen within this building. 133 00:06:39,283 --> 00:06:41,468 We just want to find the answers. 134 00:06:41,468 --> 00:06:44,107 We want to document and get some evidence. 135 00:06:44,107 --> 00:06:46,265 - The hard drives on all the digital recorders 136 00:06:46,265 --> 00:06:47,955 have been wiped clean. 137 00:06:47,955 --> 00:06:49,555 We're ready to record all night. 138 00:06:49,555 --> 00:06:51,644 We've got fully charged infrared lights 139 00:06:51,644 --> 00:06:54,045 and fresh batteries in all the rest of the gear. 140 00:06:54,045 --> 00:06:56,196 The tripod cameras have been set up. 141 00:06:56,196 --> 00:06:58,031 And that's actually one of the biggest challenges 142 00:06:58,031 --> 00:07:00,092 that we have this evening is the building itself 143 00:07:00,092 --> 00:07:03,509 is so large, we have more rooms than we have cameras. 144 00:07:03,509 --> 00:07:06,745 But we've got the live feed broadcasting in here. 145 00:07:06,745 --> 00:07:09,292 And with all the stories that we've heard 146 00:07:09,292 --> 00:07:11,504 about this building, with all the history behind it, 147 00:07:11,504 --> 00:07:13,312 I know it's gonna be a good investigation. 148 00:07:13,312 --> 00:07:15,238 I'm ready to go. 149 00:07:15,238 --> 00:07:17,613 - Looking at this picture, I can imagine 150 00:07:17,613 --> 00:07:19,353 the amount of blood, sweat, and tears 151 00:07:19,353 --> 00:07:21,385 that went into creating this building. 152 00:07:21,385 --> 00:07:24,320 Especially when you get into all these little 153 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,987 detailed carvings in the archway 154 00:07:27,924 --> 00:07:31,015 and all on the exterior of this building. 155 00:07:31,015 --> 00:07:34,483 Kind of makes you wonder if any of these gentlemen 156 00:07:34,483 --> 00:07:37,469 have returned and they're the source 157 00:07:37,469 --> 00:07:39,826 of the paranormal activity that 158 00:07:39,826 --> 00:07:43,146 the staff here at the library are experiencing. 159 00:07:43,146 --> 00:07:45,600 - I'm really excited about this investigation. 160 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,492 I've heard rumors that this place is haunted for years. 161 00:07:49,492 --> 00:07:51,670 Read all kinds of articles in the paper. 162 00:07:51,670 --> 00:07:53,834 Heard all kinds of stories. 163 00:07:53,834 --> 00:07:57,129 We've got employees who have given us eyewitness claims. 164 00:07:57,129 --> 00:08:00,129 We just want to validate those on both audio and video. 165 00:08:00,129 --> 00:08:02,172 We owe it to them. 166 00:08:02,172 --> 00:08:04,243 One of the things that's most exciting about this is 167 00:08:04,243 --> 00:08:05,807 we've never had a place where there's so many 168 00:08:05,807 --> 00:08:07,796 professional people who've come forward 169 00:08:07,796 --> 00:08:10,054 and stake their reputation on the stories that 170 00:08:10,054 --> 00:08:13,172 they're telling us, being in our documentary and all. 171 00:08:13,172 --> 00:08:15,696 I can't wait to see what we find. 172 00:08:24,495 --> 00:08:26,136 - Alright, guys, this is one of the biggest places 173 00:08:26,136 --> 00:08:27,720 we've ever investigated. 174 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,076 Thousands of square feet, multiple floors, 175 00:08:30,076 --> 00:08:31,759 and dozens of different rooms. 176 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:33,304 The only possible way that we're gonna cover 177 00:08:33,304 --> 00:08:35,256 all this ground before the sun comes up, 178 00:08:35,256 --> 00:08:37,437 we all need to split up and go our own way. 179 00:08:37,437 --> 00:08:38,270 Just be cautious. 180 00:08:38,270 --> 00:08:40,111 Be careful walking around here in the dark. 181 00:08:40,111 --> 00:08:41,794 Stay in radio communication. 182 00:08:41,794 --> 00:08:42,850 Now, this is important. 183 00:08:42,850 --> 00:08:45,364 Severe thunderstorm warnings have been issued for tonight. 184 00:08:45,364 --> 00:08:47,254 There's warnings all over the radio and TV. 185 00:08:47,254 --> 00:08:49,718 We all know that thunderstorms cause a huge spike 186 00:08:49,718 --> 00:08:51,380 in the electromagnetic field, 187 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:53,437 giving spirits more energy to manifest. 188 00:08:53,437 --> 00:08:55,432 Alright, that being said, we're all geared up. 189 00:08:55,432 --> 00:08:57,155 We've got the guys on the monitors here. 190 00:08:57,155 --> 00:08:58,397 I'm ready to go. 191 00:08:58,397 --> 00:08:59,230 You ready? 192 00:08:59,230 --> 00:09:00,063 - Good. 193 00:09:00,063 --> 00:09:00,896 - Tim? 194 00:09:00,896 --> 00:09:01,729 Josh? - Ready. 195 00:09:01,729 --> 00:09:02,562 - Alright, let's go. 196 00:09:02,562 --> 00:09:04,070 Hoyt Library investigation. 197 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:04,903 Let's do it. 198 00:09:57,471 --> 00:09:59,112 - This is Tim. 199 00:09:59,112 --> 00:10:01,529 EVP session on the mezzanine. 200 00:10:03,724 --> 00:10:06,459 Do you enjoy seeing people come through here? 201 00:10:06,459 --> 00:10:09,376 Remind you of when you worked here? 202 00:10:10,437 --> 00:10:13,937 Or remind you of when you frequented here? 203 00:10:17,822 --> 00:10:20,885 I gotta say, this is a pretty cool building. 204 00:10:20,885 --> 00:10:23,822 A lot of photographs in here. 205 00:10:23,822 --> 00:10:26,583 Lots of generations have been through here. 206 00:10:26,583 --> 00:10:30,177 - The reports of activity in this vicinity of the building 207 00:10:30,177 --> 00:10:31,844 is that an angry man 208 00:10:33,077 --> 00:10:36,389 has been sighted on this staircase 209 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:38,734 and up on the landing as well. 210 00:10:38,734 --> 00:10:40,916 They say that they hear his boots 211 00:10:40,916 --> 00:10:43,000 stomping up and down the stairs, 212 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,875 just really heavy footsteps 213 00:10:44,875 --> 00:10:47,329 and they get a negative vibe 214 00:10:47,329 --> 00:10:51,001 and just kind of feel unwanted in this area 215 00:10:51,001 --> 00:10:52,321 when he's around. 216 00:10:52,321 --> 00:10:54,039 So let's try and establish contact 217 00:10:54,039 --> 00:10:56,483 and figure out what's happening here. 218 00:11:36,299 --> 00:11:37,857 - Hello? 219 00:11:52,027 --> 00:11:54,906 Is there anyone down here with me? 220 00:11:54,906 --> 00:11:59,135 - I can only imagine how lonely it would be in here, 221 00:11:59,135 --> 00:12:01,385 year after year, wandering. 222 00:12:08,141 --> 00:12:09,974 Maybe you're confused. 223 00:12:11,962 --> 00:12:14,479 Maybe you don't realize 224 00:12:14,479 --> 00:12:16,312 that you're in a cycle 225 00:12:18,488 --> 00:12:19,905 of day after day. 226 00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:25,472 I couldn't imagine that. 227 00:12:25,472 --> 00:12:29,339 - People that have to use this stairwell 228 00:12:29,339 --> 00:12:32,589 have complained that you make them feel 229 00:12:34,371 --> 00:12:35,788 nervous, anxious, 230 00:12:38,704 --> 00:12:40,704 and flat out frightened. 231 00:12:44,016 --> 00:12:45,588 Being that they work here 232 00:12:45,588 --> 00:12:48,245 and that they have to use these stairs, 233 00:12:48,245 --> 00:12:51,162 you can see where that's a problem. 234 00:12:55,381 --> 00:13:00,048 Some of them like to refer to you as the bully. 235 00:13:00,048 --> 00:13:03,798 They say that you make them feel intimidated. 236 00:13:05,217 --> 00:13:08,384 So I'm not going to label you that way 237 00:13:12,090 --> 00:13:15,891 until I have some kind of interaction with you. 238 00:13:15,891 --> 00:13:17,610 And at the same time, I do want to tell you 239 00:13:17,610 --> 00:13:20,851 that you're not gonna bully me off these stairs. 240 00:13:20,851 --> 00:13:23,127 - Heard a lot about this room. 241 00:13:34,655 --> 00:13:36,572 Tools get moved around. 242 00:13:50,907 --> 00:13:52,869 Are you working on something? 243 00:14:06,437 --> 00:14:08,437 - Are you playing games? 244 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:12,351 I enjoy games. 245 00:14:19,035 --> 00:14:19,868 Okay. 246 00:14:21,250 --> 00:14:26,098 - They say by the period-type clothing they've seen you in 247 00:14:26,098 --> 00:14:27,683 and the heavy boots, they feel like 248 00:14:27,683 --> 00:14:29,170 you're one of the older spirits here 249 00:14:29,170 --> 00:14:30,837 at the Hoyt Library. 250 00:14:33,173 --> 00:14:34,982 That being said, you probably have more of a right 251 00:14:34,982 --> 00:14:36,482 to be here than I, 252 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,054 so if I seem confrontational 253 00:14:41,054 --> 00:14:45,399 it's only because I want to maybe provoke you 254 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:46,399 to come out. 255 00:14:51,794 --> 00:14:55,961 Do you like having the reputation of being a creeper? 256 00:15:27,214 --> 00:15:29,357 - That was creepy. 257 00:16:17,988 --> 00:16:21,059 - This is the microfiche room. 258 00:16:21,059 --> 00:16:24,815 What microfiche is is an archival system 259 00:16:24,815 --> 00:16:28,098 that was developed for documenting and chronicling 260 00:16:28,098 --> 00:16:31,515 newspapers from the last century on film. 261 00:16:33,003 --> 00:16:37,510 People can use it to do research on their family, 262 00:16:37,510 --> 00:16:41,677 burial plots, obituaries, and things of that nature. 263 00:16:43,435 --> 00:16:47,275 This is one of the most active rooms in the entire library. 264 00:16:47,275 --> 00:16:51,027 In fact, one year during their annual fundraiser, 265 00:16:51,027 --> 00:16:53,186 A Haunting at the Hoyt, 266 00:16:53,186 --> 00:16:56,190 there was a tour that came through 267 00:16:56,190 --> 00:16:58,731 and the tour guide brought a group in here. 268 00:16:58,731 --> 00:17:00,387 And while he was describing to them 269 00:17:00,387 --> 00:17:02,529 some of the activity that would happen, 270 00:17:02,529 --> 00:17:05,868 sure enough, computers started turning on, 271 00:17:05,868 --> 00:17:08,764 electronics went haywire. 272 00:17:08,764 --> 00:17:12,296 And the people in the group got so frightened, 273 00:17:12,296 --> 00:17:16,463 they left the room, got in their cars, and went home. 274 00:17:18,271 --> 00:17:22,021 - The people that work down here have told us 275 00:17:23,625 --> 00:17:26,143 they know you're here. 276 00:17:26,143 --> 00:17:27,893 That somebody's here. 277 00:17:30,812 --> 00:17:34,181 They feel that you're always standing right behind them 278 00:17:34,181 --> 00:17:36,014 while they're working. 279 00:17:38,218 --> 00:17:42,385 Even walking behind them as they travel through this space. 280 00:17:49,660 --> 00:17:51,869 They'd like us to try and obtain some answers 281 00:17:51,869 --> 00:17:55,536 on who you are, what you're doing down here. 282 00:17:57,015 --> 00:18:01,145 - Librarians have stated that they can hear 283 00:18:01,145 --> 00:18:03,155 floorboards creaking up here when they're 284 00:18:03,155 --> 00:18:06,488 getting ready to close down for the day, 285 00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:13,690 almost as if someone is pacing back an forth. 286 00:18:19,677 --> 00:18:24,104 Some have even said they've heard a female voice. 287 00:18:26,282 --> 00:18:29,699 - I'm here to document some of the claims 288 00:18:33,355 --> 00:18:36,022 that I've heard about this room. 289 00:18:39,914 --> 00:18:41,664 Computers turning on. 290 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:46,957 Screens being activated. 291 00:18:52,430 --> 00:18:54,513 Pretty outrageous claims. 292 00:18:56,949 --> 00:18:59,843 But if you could do that for me tonight, 293 00:18:59,843 --> 00:19:01,926 that'd be pretty special. 294 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:08,167 Could you move something for me? 295 00:19:10,054 --> 00:19:12,541 - Do you like the employees down here? 296 00:19:16,435 --> 00:19:21,094 Or perhaps maybe you feel like this is your space 297 00:19:21,094 --> 00:19:25,201 and you don't like them being down here? 298 00:19:30,032 --> 00:19:31,632 You know, I've got a feeling you've been here a lot 299 00:19:31,632 --> 00:19:35,799 longer than all these computers and all this technology. 300 00:19:37,603 --> 00:19:39,186 If you could try to 301 00:19:41,731 --> 00:19:43,425 tell me what this portion of the basement 302 00:19:43,425 --> 00:19:45,008 used to be used for 303 00:19:46,260 --> 00:19:47,736 or why it's important to you, 304 00:19:47,736 --> 00:19:50,236 that could help tell us a lot. 305 00:19:51,425 --> 00:19:54,918 Maybe resolve a conflict, if indeed there is one. 306 00:19:54,918 --> 00:19:59,492 - Maybe you can tell me why you're pacing back and forth. 307 00:20:07,042 --> 00:20:09,375 Are you waiting for someone? 308 00:20:12,046 --> 00:20:13,129 Or something? 309 00:20:16,493 --> 00:20:18,580 - Upon the initial review of this footage, 310 00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:20,091 we believed the flickering lights 311 00:20:20,091 --> 00:20:22,687 to be lightning from the storm outside. 312 00:20:22,687 --> 00:20:24,910 Taking a second look, we realized something 313 00:20:24,910 --> 00:20:26,598 was actually tampering with the lights 314 00:20:26,598 --> 00:20:29,125 in the fiction room down below. 315 00:20:29,125 --> 00:20:32,162 Observe the slow motion replay. 316 00:20:42,352 --> 00:20:45,032 - You know, one thing I gotta point out here is, 317 00:20:45,032 --> 00:20:47,279 especially looking at this tower, 318 00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:50,392 there's a lot of high voltage electronics down here. 319 00:20:50,392 --> 00:20:54,392 And side effects of a high EMF field such as this 320 00:20:54,392 --> 00:20:57,347 is paranoia, feeling of being watched, 321 00:20:57,347 --> 00:21:00,253 and if you're supersensitive to it, even nausea. 322 00:21:00,253 --> 00:21:03,504 So if you're down here putting in eight, nine hour shifts 323 00:21:03,504 --> 00:21:08,032 five, six days a week, it could probably be pretty intense. 324 00:21:08,032 --> 00:21:11,365 That could describe why they feel that way 325 00:21:11,365 --> 00:21:14,532 or why I feel that way right now even. 326 00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:20,033 But on the other hand, there's definitely-- 327 00:21:49,478 --> 00:21:50,895 You getting this? 328 00:23:19,936 --> 00:23:23,254 - This is Prozak now entering the fiction room. 329 00:23:29,038 --> 00:23:31,788 Stormy Weather, tell me about it. 330 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:51,236 So, as I said, this is now known as the fiction room, 331 00:23:51,236 --> 00:23:53,761 but nearly 100 years ago, this was referred to 332 00:23:53,761 --> 00:23:55,680 as the children's section. 333 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,503 Over here by the fireplace, you'd have a teacher 334 00:23:59,503 --> 00:24:02,887 or possibly a librarian who would be over here 335 00:24:02,887 --> 00:24:05,240 reading stories to a small group of children 336 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,741 who would be gathered over here 337 00:24:07,741 --> 00:24:09,958 in front of the fireplace, 338 00:24:09,958 --> 00:24:13,278 listening to stories and playing games. 339 00:24:13,278 --> 00:24:16,018 How that really correlates to modern day 340 00:24:16,018 --> 00:24:19,451 is employees will swear they hear giggling, 341 00:24:19,451 --> 00:24:22,051 laughter, they'll hear little feet running up and down 342 00:24:22,051 --> 00:24:24,489 the aisles here when they're about to close. 343 00:24:24,489 --> 00:24:27,391 And an apparition of a little girl in a white dress 344 00:24:27,391 --> 00:24:31,859 has been seen by dozens of employees over the decades. 345 00:24:31,859 --> 00:24:34,691 Let's see if we can make contact. 346 00:24:39,964 --> 00:24:41,899 - We got a motion detector going off in the 347 00:24:41,899 --> 00:24:43,988 government documents room, let's go. 348 00:25:02,905 --> 00:25:05,155 Nothing looks out of place. 349 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,050 I don't see any books that have fallen. 350 00:25:20,932 --> 00:25:23,078 Something must have crossed in front of that beam 351 00:25:23,078 --> 00:25:24,655 to set off the alarm. 352 00:25:44,422 --> 00:25:47,922 It looks like someone was a little curious 353 00:25:50,841 --> 00:25:52,551 about this device that was set up 354 00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,468 by one of our team members earlier. 355 00:25:58,144 --> 00:26:02,311 I imagine it must have startled you when it went off. 356 00:26:14,742 --> 00:26:15,992 Let's reset it. 357 00:26:19,103 --> 00:26:21,322 - You're probably wondering who the big stranger is 358 00:26:21,322 --> 00:26:24,239 here shining a bright light around. 359 00:26:27,767 --> 00:26:32,061 I don't mean to shine it in your face, if I am. 360 00:26:32,061 --> 00:26:34,394 Then again, I can't see you. 361 00:26:41,013 --> 00:26:45,180 Can you tell me what stories used to be read here? 362 00:26:46,113 --> 00:26:49,678 And in front of the old fireplace? 363 00:26:49,678 --> 00:26:52,511 Maybe what your favorite book was? 364 00:26:59,137 --> 00:27:02,887 What kind of games did you guys used to play? 365 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:06,277 It's a pretty big room. 366 00:27:06,277 --> 00:27:09,694 It'd be perfect for a good ole game of hide-and-seek. 367 00:27:20,207 --> 00:27:24,374 I feel like we've been playing hide and seek all night. 368 00:27:27,298 --> 00:27:28,548 Door over here. 369 00:27:32,226 --> 00:27:33,559 I tell you what. 370 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,623 We can play a game. 371 00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:41,743 I'm gonna knock on something 372 00:27:43,468 --> 00:27:45,544 and if one of you can knock back, 373 00:27:45,544 --> 00:27:48,405 I've got a present here on my shoulder 374 00:27:48,405 --> 00:27:51,480 that I'll leave for you guys to play with. 375 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,313 Sound fun? 376 00:27:54,976 --> 00:27:55,809 Let's try it. 377 00:27:55,809 --> 00:27:57,727 I'm gonna knock. 378 00:27:57,727 --> 00:28:00,266 If you can knock back, 379 00:28:00,266 --> 00:28:02,433 I'm gonna leave this gift. 380 00:28:09,925 --> 00:28:11,758 - Are you avoiding me? 381 00:28:40,568 --> 00:28:41,401 - Come on. 382 00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:45,858 You know, just before we came in this room, 383 00:28:45,858 --> 00:28:50,322 I was grabbing my flashlight here and my recorder 384 00:28:50,322 --> 00:28:53,590 to come in here and we heard little feet 385 00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:56,068 running through the room, 386 00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:59,114 much like many of the people at the Hoyt have heard, 387 00:28:59,114 --> 00:29:01,614 so we know somebody's in here. 388 00:29:03,238 --> 00:29:05,738 I'm gonna knock one more time. 389 00:29:06,781 --> 00:29:08,897 If you knock back, like I said, 390 00:29:08,897 --> 00:29:11,671 I'm gonna give you a present, okay? 391 00:29:11,671 --> 00:29:12,607 I promise. 392 00:29:12,607 --> 00:29:14,624 It's toy, you'll love it. 393 00:29:14,624 --> 00:29:16,874 Let's try it one more time. 394 00:29:25,016 --> 00:29:29,183 - Is there something about this book in particular 395 00:29:35,828 --> 00:29:37,995 that you wanted me to see? 396 00:29:42,101 --> 00:29:45,600 Maybe 397 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,850 you're just trying to get my attention. 398 00:30:15,201 --> 00:30:16,034 Really? 399 00:30:26,602 --> 00:30:27,523 - You guys must not want-- 400 00:30:53,661 --> 00:30:54,494 Okay. 401 00:30:59,143 --> 00:31:02,560 So maybe we are playing hide-and-go-seek. 402 00:31:06,012 --> 00:31:08,429 Can you do that one more time 403 00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:14,743 so I can tell where it's coming from? 404 00:31:34,925 --> 00:31:37,305 The childlike laugh had actually startled me. 405 00:31:37,305 --> 00:31:39,206 Catching the audio evidence solidified 406 00:31:39,206 --> 00:31:41,348 that there was indeed a spirit interacting 407 00:31:41,348 --> 00:31:43,242 with me in the fiction room. 408 00:31:43,242 --> 00:31:44,927 Perhaps this was the infamous little girl 409 00:31:44,927 --> 00:31:49,094 in the white dress seen by staff and patrons alike. 410 00:31:57,933 --> 00:32:00,823 Okay, well, a deal's a deal. 411 00:32:00,823 --> 00:32:01,823 As promised, 412 00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:07,140 I got a gift 413 00:32:10,570 --> 00:32:14,153 that I'm gonna leave over by the fireplace. 414 00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:18,454 I'm not sure who's knocking, but if it's 415 00:32:18,454 --> 00:32:20,512 the little girl in the white dress, 416 00:32:24,043 --> 00:32:27,210 I think I have something real special. 417 00:32:32,333 --> 00:32:37,019 I have a little girl in a white dress here in my hand. 418 00:32:37,019 --> 00:32:39,342 She's over 100 years old. 419 00:32:41,469 --> 00:32:44,138 The only problem is I don't have a name 420 00:32:44,138 --> 00:32:45,199 picked out for her. 421 00:32:45,199 --> 00:32:47,504 She didn't come with one. 422 00:32:47,504 --> 00:32:49,465 So I'm gonna leave this here 423 00:32:56,108 --> 00:32:58,767 and feel free to come play with her 424 00:32:58,767 --> 00:33:01,119 or whatever you'd like to do. 425 00:34:51,206 --> 00:34:54,446 This is Prozak entering the local history 426 00:34:54,446 --> 00:34:56,529 and genealogy department. 427 00:34:57,731 --> 00:35:00,447 So, this is one of the most active portions 428 00:35:00,447 --> 00:35:02,463 of the library upstairs here. 429 00:35:02,463 --> 00:35:05,463 There's been reports of an apparition by many 430 00:35:05,463 --> 00:35:07,379 that is said to haunt this location. 431 00:35:07,379 --> 00:35:09,630 As well as many stories of many paranormal events 432 00:35:09,630 --> 00:35:11,926 that have taken place. 433 00:35:11,926 --> 00:35:13,212 Let's see what we can find. 434 00:35:22,219 --> 00:35:24,416 So this is probably my favorite story 435 00:35:24,416 --> 00:35:27,337 that I've heard about this building, period. 436 00:35:27,337 --> 00:35:29,800 They were doing some renovations and they had 437 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,722 an electrician come in to install some wire in here. 438 00:35:33,722 --> 00:35:36,367 And as the electrician stuck his hand in the hole 439 00:35:36,367 --> 00:35:39,836 to connect these wires, he felt an ice cold hand 440 00:35:39,836 --> 00:35:42,576 grab his and just squeeze it. 441 00:35:42,576 --> 00:35:45,450 The man screamed, threw his tools, 442 00:35:45,450 --> 00:35:48,669 and just ran out of the building. 443 00:36:02,087 --> 00:36:04,540 - I'm here to establish contact 444 00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:08,202 with the man who's said to haunt this wing of the library. 445 00:36:17,361 --> 00:36:19,679 The staff described you as a very well-dressed man 446 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,053 in a suit. 447 00:36:29,824 --> 00:36:31,657 Are you the architect? 448 00:36:33,265 --> 00:36:35,598 Or the designer of the Hoyt? 449 00:36:36,692 --> 00:36:40,156 - I'm told there's an apparition 450 00:36:40,156 --> 00:36:43,028 that dwells up here that's referred to as 451 00:36:43,028 --> 00:36:44,861 the helpful librarian. 452 00:36:53,823 --> 00:36:56,555 The patrons of the Hoyt Library will come up here 453 00:36:56,555 --> 00:36:59,888 to research or perhaps work on a project 454 00:37:01,374 --> 00:37:03,096 and on the way out, they'd like to thank 455 00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:06,596 the old woman who was so helpful and nice. 456 00:37:10,124 --> 00:37:13,237 The only problem with this is there is no woman 457 00:37:13,237 --> 00:37:14,820 that works up here. 458 00:37:22,212 --> 00:37:26,630 So I'd like to ask you if you could perhaps help me. 459 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:31,588 Me and my friends are working on a project ourselves 460 00:37:31,588 --> 00:37:35,054 about the strange and unusual things that happen 461 00:37:35,054 --> 00:37:37,471 at the historic Hoyt Library. 462 00:37:39,557 --> 00:37:42,807 - You can answer some questions for me. 463 00:37:43,814 --> 00:37:47,981 Maybe help me and the staff better understand who you are, 464 00:37:48,825 --> 00:37:50,492 what draws you here. 465 00:38:07,713 --> 00:38:09,880 Is that you in the corner? 466 00:38:20,523 --> 00:38:23,190 You don't have to be frightened. 467 00:38:26,274 --> 00:38:28,691 I'm not trying to corner you. 468 00:38:36,425 --> 00:38:39,258 Come toward the sound of my voice. 469 00:38:48,860 --> 00:38:51,500 Or maybe come take a seat 470 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:53,925 and the two of us could-- 471 00:39:01,150 --> 00:39:01,983 Dude! 472 00:39:05,956 --> 00:39:07,201 - Nobody was in the auditorium 473 00:39:07,201 --> 00:39:09,423 except Tim and the cameraman. 474 00:39:09,423 --> 00:39:11,555 Recall Tim sliding the chair out from the desk 475 00:39:11,555 --> 00:39:13,903 upon entering and facing it toward the room 476 00:39:13,903 --> 00:39:16,241 before conducting his EVP session. 477 00:39:19,986 --> 00:39:22,297 When he turns back to his seat, he is astonished 478 00:39:22,297 --> 00:39:24,702 to find it returned to its original place. 479 00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:38,358 - Jesse Hoyt was president 480 00:39:38,358 --> 00:39:40,789 of the Pere Marquette Railroad 481 00:39:40,789 --> 00:39:44,690 for eight years, until he passed away. 482 00:39:44,690 --> 00:39:48,773 That's better known as the Potter Street Station. 483 00:39:51,336 --> 00:39:53,197 I know it's late. 484 00:39:53,197 --> 00:39:54,614 It's after hours. 485 00:39:57,285 --> 00:40:01,452 But I could sure use some advice or some direction. 486 00:40:07,876 --> 00:40:11,442 Where might I search in this building for the answers 487 00:40:11,442 --> 00:40:15,609 that myself, my team, and the staff are looking for? 488 00:40:19,143 --> 00:40:19,976 CK Eddy, 489 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:27,187 very prominent member of early Saginaw society. 490 00:40:38,787 --> 00:40:41,755 This room is dedicated to the memory 491 00:40:41,755 --> 00:40:43,517 of Harriet Hough Ames, 492 00:40:43,517 --> 00:40:46,850 the first librarian of the Hoyt Library. 493 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,950 Harriet, is that you? 494 00:41:00,255 --> 00:41:03,422 Are you in fact the helpful librarian? 495 00:41:10,558 --> 00:41:13,080 I apologize for making assumptions. 496 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,663 If that's not your name, please correct me. 497 00:41:27,893 --> 00:41:29,386 Did you hear that? 498 00:41:30,699 --> 00:41:33,368 It seems my talking aloud had disgruntled the spirit 499 00:41:33,368 --> 00:41:36,101 that is said to haunt the history and genealogy department 500 00:41:36,101 --> 00:41:37,768 of the Hoyt Library. 501 00:43:02,169 --> 00:43:03,002 This is crazy. 502 00:43:03,002 --> 00:43:04,682 - Yeah. 503 00:43:04,682 --> 00:43:07,126 - I mean, I expected a lot of of the Hoyt Library, 504 00:43:07,126 --> 00:43:10,750 but I cannot believe how much evidence we've already caught. 505 00:43:10,750 --> 00:43:14,726 I don't know if it's the storm or what it is. 506 00:43:14,726 --> 00:43:16,452 So I called you up here because I want 507 00:43:16,452 --> 00:43:17,985 to send you up to the attic. 508 00:43:17,985 --> 00:43:18,818 - Okay. 509 00:43:18,818 --> 00:43:21,323 - Okay, now the attic has been virtually untouched 510 00:43:21,323 --> 00:43:23,106 for the last 125 years. 511 00:43:23,106 --> 00:43:23,939 - Perfect. 512 00:43:23,939 --> 00:43:26,700 - So therefore, if there are spirits 513 00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,024 in that part of the building, they're not 514 00:43:28,024 --> 00:43:31,178 used to people walking around and going through there. 515 00:43:31,178 --> 00:43:34,338 So really dig in that attic and go in all the nooks 516 00:43:34,338 --> 00:43:36,848 and crannies and see what you can kick loose up there. 517 00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:37,681 - Definitely. 518 00:43:37,681 --> 00:43:40,101 - Also, that being said, be careful up there. 519 00:43:40,101 --> 00:43:42,188 Because I'm not sure about how it is structurally. 520 00:43:42,188 --> 00:43:43,446 I'm gonna head down into the basement 521 00:43:43,446 --> 00:43:44,490 into the archive. 522 00:43:44,490 --> 00:43:46,069 That's where all the things are collected and stored 523 00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:48,440 here at the Hoyt, and for that reason I feel like 524 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,793 who knows what I might encounter? 525 00:43:50,793 --> 00:43:53,222 But keep in contact with me on the radio, 526 00:43:53,222 --> 00:43:54,528 let me know how it is, 527 00:43:54,528 --> 00:43:55,593 and let's keep it going. 528 00:43:55,593 --> 00:43:57,536 - Let's do it. 529 00:44:30,830 --> 00:44:33,964 - So we're down to the archives right now. 530 00:44:33,964 --> 00:44:37,261 This is the most feared location in the Hoyt Library. 531 00:44:37,261 --> 00:44:38,887 Employees will make almost any excuse 532 00:44:38,887 --> 00:44:41,778 to not come down here for any reason. 533 00:44:41,778 --> 00:44:44,755 Could be attributed to the old relics that were stored here, 534 00:44:44,755 --> 00:44:46,795 the oldest things that the Hoyt has in their collection 535 00:44:46,795 --> 00:44:50,673 is stored here, a lot of things symbolic to death. 536 00:44:50,673 --> 00:44:54,574 Obituaries, funeral directories, grave plots, 537 00:44:54,574 --> 00:44:56,313 the list goes on. 538 00:44:56,313 --> 00:44:58,397 It's also tucked away in the darkest corner, so I can 539 00:44:58,397 --> 00:45:01,261 understand why people would be afraid to come back here. 540 00:45:01,261 --> 00:45:04,301 However, they believe there is something here. 541 00:45:04,301 --> 00:45:06,059 Let's see what we can find. 542 00:45:11,348 --> 00:45:13,512 Is anybody here with me? 543 00:45:26,311 --> 00:45:27,978 Pardon my intrusion. 544 00:45:30,869 --> 00:45:33,248 Got flashing lights and somebody talking 545 00:45:33,248 --> 00:45:35,581 in a loud tone in a library. 546 00:45:36,862 --> 00:45:39,139 I could understand how that would seem disrespectful, 547 00:45:39,139 --> 00:45:41,306 but I assure you it's not. 548 00:45:51,642 --> 00:45:53,892 Saginaw evening news, 1890. 549 00:45:57,818 --> 00:46:01,985 - This is Adam heading into the attic of the Hoyt library. 550 00:46:18,212 --> 00:46:21,129 Oh, really watch your head in here. 551 00:46:23,568 --> 00:46:25,440 Shoot, I just dropped my recorder. 552 00:46:32,883 --> 00:46:34,470 I can't even feel it down there. 553 00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:37,137 I think it goes down pretty far. 554 00:46:50,775 --> 00:46:54,442 I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get it. 555 00:47:05,431 --> 00:47:06,680 I found it! 556 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,506 Sorry, did I scare you? 557 00:47:08,506 --> 00:47:10,345 Sorry, come on. 558 00:47:10,345 --> 00:47:13,928 - People are very afraid to come down here. 559 00:47:18,579 --> 00:47:21,746 And I'm here to try to figure out why. 560 00:47:25,104 --> 00:47:28,921 I know it's a spooky portion of the building. 561 00:47:33,878 --> 00:47:35,271 But the people that work here 562 00:47:35,271 --> 00:47:37,854 swear it's more than just that. 563 00:47:39,399 --> 00:47:43,566 They feel that they're not alone when they are here. 564 00:47:46,217 --> 00:47:49,357 Some of these dates on these books go back 565 00:47:49,357 --> 00:47:50,190 150 years. 566 00:47:53,132 --> 00:47:53,965 - Oh, wow. 567 00:47:56,036 --> 00:47:58,536 This must be for the skylight. 568 00:48:03,371 --> 00:48:05,121 Take a look in there. 569 00:48:15,801 --> 00:48:17,197 - Allow me to introduce myself. 570 00:48:17,197 --> 00:48:18,614 My name is Steve. 571 00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:22,010 And I'm here just for tonight. 572 00:48:23,183 --> 00:48:25,766 I'm here to try to find answers 573 00:48:26,838 --> 00:48:29,986 for the staff of the Hoyt library 574 00:48:29,986 --> 00:48:30,819 who swear 575 00:48:32,988 --> 00:48:36,210 there are supernatural events taking place 576 00:48:36,210 --> 00:48:37,259 throughout the building, 577 00:48:37,259 --> 00:48:39,509 and particularly this room. 578 00:48:52,721 --> 00:48:55,054 Can you show yourself to me? 579 00:48:58,285 --> 00:49:01,347 I promise I won't be afraid, 580 00:49:01,347 --> 00:49:03,264 nor will I be startled. 581 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,165 You can move an object. 582 00:49:09,165 --> 00:49:13,332 You can use your voice to try to speak or communicate. 583 00:49:16,369 --> 00:49:19,786 Anything you feel comfortable with doing. 584 00:49:35,972 --> 00:49:38,877 - You gotta be careful up here. 585 00:49:54,208 --> 00:49:55,831 - You can follow me if you want. 586 00:49:55,831 --> 00:49:57,082 You can stand in front of me. 587 00:49:57,082 --> 00:49:59,665 You can tap me on the shoulder. 588 00:50:02,798 --> 00:50:06,252 I'm here as a friend of the library 589 00:50:06,252 --> 00:50:08,502 to try to reach out to you. 590 00:50:10,828 --> 00:50:13,080 Maybe there's more than one of you. 591 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,439 That's fine, too. 592 00:50:14,439 --> 00:50:15,712 - Hello? 593 00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:27,821 Who's up here? 594 00:50:47,656 --> 00:50:50,407 Did you want us to come in this room? 595 00:51:00,173 --> 00:51:03,260 Are you trying to lead us somewhere? 596 00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:05,007 - Oh my god. 597 00:51:19,125 --> 00:51:22,998 It's got plastic on it, so I think I can touch it. 598 00:51:28,507 --> 00:51:32,419 Carried by a BC Carter through the Civil War. 599 00:51:32,419 --> 00:51:34,537 He was a member of the First Michigan 600 00:51:34,537 --> 00:51:37,683 Engineer and Mechanic's Regiment. 601 00:51:37,683 --> 00:51:40,183 Wow, look at this, the history 602 00:51:41,859 --> 00:51:43,315 that we're in right now. 603 00:51:43,315 --> 00:51:45,535 I mean, somebody carried this object 604 00:51:45,535 --> 00:51:48,128 through the entire Civil War. 605 00:51:48,128 --> 00:51:50,461 Just a little piece of home. 606 00:51:52,876 --> 00:51:55,972 Imagine the sentimental value that this has, 607 00:51:55,972 --> 00:51:59,091 that all these objects have, and you wonder why 608 00:51:59,091 --> 00:52:01,571 this is the most active portion of the building. 609 00:53:47,791 --> 00:53:49,177 That's weird. 610 00:53:49,177 --> 00:53:52,381 Just felt like something kind of brushing in the face here. 611 00:53:52,381 --> 00:53:56,126 Kind of felt like cobwebs, but not quite cobwebs. 612 00:53:56,126 --> 00:53:57,495 But I don't feel anything. 613 00:53:57,495 --> 00:53:59,662 I don't see anything here. 614 00:54:03,102 --> 00:54:04,836 Felt weird. 615 00:54:04,836 --> 00:54:05,669 Hello? 616 00:54:11,668 --> 00:54:14,168 The folks that work down here, 617 00:54:15,181 --> 00:54:17,707 there's only three offices in this particular department 618 00:54:17,707 --> 00:54:20,754 and they're all pretty nervous about working here. 619 00:54:20,754 --> 00:54:23,316 This is known to be definitely one of the most 620 00:54:23,316 --> 00:54:24,733 haunted sections. 621 00:54:28,749 --> 00:54:31,225 I know we say that a lot during this investigation, 622 00:54:31,225 --> 00:54:33,261 but there are so many spots 623 00:54:33,261 --> 00:54:36,183 and so many rooms with activity here. 624 00:54:36,183 --> 00:54:38,266 So many different claims. 625 00:54:45,986 --> 00:54:48,666 So this is one of the older parts of the building. 626 00:54:48,666 --> 00:54:52,583 I'm guessing it has some of the oldest spirits. 627 00:54:56,290 --> 00:54:57,869 A lot of things from the past here 628 00:54:57,869 --> 00:54:59,619 collected and stored. 629 00:55:00,637 --> 00:55:03,054 Maybe you have some interest? 630 00:55:04,147 --> 00:55:08,314 Maybe these things remind you of your particular time frame? 631 00:55:10,928 --> 00:55:13,678 Things that you're familiar with? 632 00:55:18,403 --> 00:55:19,486 East Saginaw. 633 00:55:20,836 --> 00:55:24,696 - I've had the opportunity to speak with several 634 00:55:24,696 --> 00:55:27,946 of the nice people that work down here. 635 00:55:29,313 --> 00:55:32,264 They say they can sense your presence. 636 00:55:44,684 --> 00:55:48,267 Sometimes their belongings will go missing. 637 00:55:55,331 --> 00:55:58,831 Turn up in a different part of the office. 638 00:56:03,201 --> 00:56:05,118 Sometimes never at all. 639 00:56:06,532 --> 00:56:09,205 - Look at this, old dumbwaiter. 640 00:56:09,205 --> 00:56:12,157 All the old buildings had these. 641 00:56:12,157 --> 00:56:14,907 Made people's lives a lot easier, 642 00:56:15,749 --> 00:56:18,434 sending things up and down the little elevator 643 00:56:18,434 --> 00:56:22,920 instead of carrying heavy things up the steps. 644 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:28,252 Makes perfect sense in a library 645 00:56:28,252 --> 00:56:31,036 with all those heavy books. 646 00:56:31,036 --> 00:56:33,899 - Earlier in the night, when we were given the tour, 647 00:56:33,899 --> 00:56:37,248 I guess one of the employees that work in this office here 648 00:56:37,248 --> 00:56:39,530 was digitizing some old film cans 649 00:56:39,530 --> 00:56:41,776 that were donated by a private collector 650 00:56:41,776 --> 00:56:43,869 of Old Saginaw City. 651 00:56:43,869 --> 00:56:46,756 And while he was processing, digitizing these films, 652 00:56:46,756 --> 00:56:50,429 a very prominent figure of Saginaw's past, 653 00:56:50,429 --> 00:56:52,619 when his name would be mentioned, this light here 654 00:56:52,619 --> 00:56:56,702 above where he was seated, would begin to flicker. 655 00:56:56,702 --> 00:56:58,325 At first, he thought okay well, 656 00:56:58,325 --> 00:56:59,842 maybe it's just a coincidence. 657 00:56:59,842 --> 00:57:03,235 Well, after five or six times of this happening, 658 00:57:03,235 --> 00:57:04,997 he started to get pretty spooked out. 659 00:57:04,997 --> 00:57:07,878 And the gentleman told us that about another dozen times 660 00:57:07,878 --> 00:57:11,159 throughout these films, it would continue to happen, 661 00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:12,734 only when his name was mentioned. 662 00:57:12,734 --> 00:57:14,734 So that's pretty spooky. 663 00:57:18,260 --> 00:57:22,427 - Do you like having the company of the staff down here? 664 00:57:25,742 --> 00:57:29,409 Or maybe you like it better when they leave? 665 00:57:35,478 --> 00:57:36,744 Typing? 666 00:57:57,461 --> 00:57:58,294 Hello? 667 00:58:01,410 --> 00:58:02,390 It stopped. 668 00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:04,433 - Now that is real creepy. 669 00:58:04,433 --> 00:58:05,516 Look at this. 670 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,687 These are all the collections of where 671 00:58:10,961 --> 00:58:13,871 people are buried, all the old cemeteries. 672 00:58:13,871 --> 00:58:17,408 We have Forest Lawn, see several others down here. 673 00:58:21,170 --> 00:58:24,150 Even got some film cans here. 674 00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:26,150 Saginaw city cemeteries. 675 00:58:27,977 --> 00:58:28,810 It's amazing. 676 00:58:28,810 --> 00:58:30,754 You're literally looking at thousands 677 00:58:30,754 --> 00:58:33,763 of people's resting places. 678 00:58:33,763 --> 00:58:34,684 - Excuse me. 679 00:58:58,778 --> 00:59:00,604 - I'm sure you've witnessed quite a bit of change 680 00:59:00,604 --> 00:59:01,937 in this library. 681 00:59:12,334 --> 00:59:13,917 Do you like change? 682 00:59:18,938 --> 00:59:22,938 Or do you prefer things the way they used to be? 683 01:00:10,627 --> 01:00:11,785 - After reviewing all the footage 684 01:00:11,785 --> 01:00:14,134 from the infrared stationary cameras, 685 01:00:14,134 --> 01:00:16,836 we found ourselves in total disbelief. 686 01:00:16,836 --> 01:00:19,963 Finally, after all the stories and eyewitness claims, 687 01:00:19,963 --> 01:00:22,815 we had visual evidence of the spirit referred to 688 01:00:22,815 --> 01:00:24,898 as the helpful librarian. 689 01:01:17,836 --> 01:01:20,503 - I know a lot of heart and soul 690 01:01:23,436 --> 01:01:27,019 was put into the creation of this building. 691 01:01:28,096 --> 01:01:30,348 I say building, it's much more than just a building 692 01:01:30,348 --> 01:01:33,598 to the community, to myself, the staff. 693 01:01:38,287 --> 01:01:42,204 It's a big part of our history here in Saginaw. 694 01:01:43,218 --> 01:01:47,385 So I know some of that heart and soul has to remain, 695 01:01:48,450 --> 01:01:50,950 the energy has to remain here. 696 01:01:56,649 --> 01:01:59,232 If there's anything that anyone 697 01:02:00,215 --> 01:02:01,632 would like to say 698 01:02:03,531 --> 01:02:05,281 or a message perhaps, 699 01:02:10,634 --> 01:02:13,217 please feel free to speak to me 700 01:02:14,703 --> 01:02:17,536 and trust that I am a friend here. 701 01:02:28,333 --> 01:02:31,451 We're only going to be visiting just for tonight. 702 01:02:31,451 --> 01:02:35,304 And then I promise you, the nights will go back 703 01:02:35,304 --> 01:02:37,387 to being quiet, peaceful, 704 01:02:39,462 --> 01:02:42,712 and most of all go back to being yours. 705 01:02:51,482 --> 01:02:55,935 I know there's been others that have come here, 706 01:02:55,935 --> 01:02:59,596 probably asked you similar questions 707 01:02:59,596 --> 01:03:01,930 and asked you to do similar things. 708 01:03:34,801 --> 01:03:38,841 This would be a beautiful place to spend 709 01:03:38,841 --> 01:03:40,348 eternity. 710 01:03:44,388 --> 01:03:46,462 And I could understand that. 711 01:03:52,819 --> 01:03:54,986 The people that work here, 712 01:03:56,081 --> 01:03:58,993 it's not that they're afraid, 713 01:03:58,993 --> 01:04:02,243 they would just love to know more about 714 01:04:04,694 --> 01:04:06,027 why you're here. 715 01:04:07,718 --> 01:04:11,135 They love the building as much as you do. 716 01:04:12,097 --> 01:04:15,731 And I think if you guys could somehow connect 717 01:04:15,731 --> 01:04:19,564 it could be even a better experience for both. 718 01:04:23,144 --> 01:04:25,477 They definitely respect you. 719 01:04:27,334 --> 01:04:30,636 They view the spirits, for the most part, 720 01:04:30,636 --> 01:04:32,886 of the Hoyt to be very kind 721 01:04:35,915 --> 01:04:38,915 and part of the building that it is, 722 01:04:41,153 --> 01:04:42,757 the historic Hoyt library. 51432

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