All language subtitles for 1 The.Radical.Story.of.Patty.Hearst

>> OUR FIRST GUEST, PATTY
HEARST.

HEARST.
THE VICTIM OF THE MOST BIZARRE

THE VICTIM OF THE MOST BIZARRE
KIDNAPPING STORY.

KIDNAPPING STORY.
KICKING AND SCREAMING FROM HER

KICKING AND SCREAMING FROM HER
APARTMENT, SHOVED INTO THE TRUNK

APARTMENT, SHOVED INTO THE TRUNK
OF A CAR.

OF A CAR.
SHE STUNNED THE WORLD WITH THE

SHE STUNNED THE WORLD WITH THE
ANNOUNCEMENT SHE JOINED HER

ANNOUNCEMENT SHE JOINED HER
CAPTORS AND BECAME A

CAPTORS AND BECAME A
REVOLUTIONARY AND BRANDED A

REVOLUTIONARY AND BRANDED A
COMMON CRIMINAL.

COMMON CRIMINAL.
>> 30 MINUTES AGO WE ARRESTED

>> 30 MINUTES AGO WE ARRESTED
PATTY HEARST AT --

PATTY HEARST AT --
>> FOUR COUNTS OF ROBBERY,

>> FOUR COUNTS OF ROBBERY,
ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON

ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON
WITH INTENT TO MURDER.

WITH INTENT TO MURDER.
>> AUTHORITIES SAID THEY FOUND

>> AUTHORITIES SAID THEY FOUND
TEN AUTOMATIC WEAPONS IN THE

TEN AUTOMATIC WEAPONS IN THE
HEARST APARTMENT.

HEARST APARTMENT.
>> HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THE

>> HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THE
GRANDDAUGHTER OF WILLIAM

GRANDDAUGHTER OF WILLIAM
RANDOLPH HEARST BECOME A

RANDOLPH HEARST BECOME A
TERRORIST.

TERRORIST.
>> ASSUMING THESE LIBERATION

>> ASSUMING THESE LIBERATION
ARMY KIDNAPPED SOMEONE FROM

ARMY KIDNAPPED SOMEONE FROM
AMERICAN NOBILITY.

AMERICAN NOBILITY.
>> IT'S THE STORY THAT IS

>> IT'S THE STORY THAT IS
VIOLENT.

VIOLENT.
I WAS KIDNAPPED BY TERRORISTS,

I WAS KIDNAPPED BY TERRORISTS,
BRUTALIZED BY THEM, THREAT

BRUTALIZED BY THEM, THREAT
CONSTANTLY THAT YOU'LL BE KILLED

CONSTANTLY THAT YOU'LL BE KILLED
IF YOU DON'T COOPERATE, IT

IF YOU DON'T COOPERATE, IT
FINALLY BREAKS YOU DOWN.

FINALLY BREAKS YOU DOWN.
>> MY NAME IS WILLIAM TAYLOR

>> MY NAME IS WILLIAM TAYLOR
HARRIS.

HARRIS.
AS ME A QUESTION.

AS ME A QUESTION.
>> DID YOU KIDNAP PATTY HEARST?

>> DID YOU KIDNAP PATTY HEARST?
>> I PERSONALLY TOOK PATTY

>> I PERSONALLY TOOK PATTY
HEARST OUT OF HER APARTMENT AND

HEARST OUT OF HER APARTMENT AND
PUT HER INTO A GETAWAY CAR.

PUT HER INTO A GETAWAY CAR.
REALITY ISN'T ALWAYS ON THE

REALITY ISN'T ALWAYS ON THE
SURFACE.

SURFACE.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK A

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK A
LITTLE DEEPER TO SEE WHAT'S

LITTLE DEEPER TO SEE WHAT'S
REAL.

REAL.
>> IS SHE AMERICA'S MOST FAMOUS

>> IS SHE AMERICA'S MOST FAMOUS
CRIME VICTIM OR IS SHE THE MOST

CRIME VICTIM OR IS SHE THE MOST
FAMOUS RICH TURNCOAT IN AMERICAN

FAMOUS RICH TURNCOAT IN AMERICAN
HIS

HIS
HISTORY?

HISTORY?
>> GRANDDAUGHTER OF WILLIAM

>> GRANDDAUGHTER OF WILLIAM
RANDOLPH HEARST WAS ABDUCTED BY

RANDOLPH HEARST WAS ABDUCTED BY
TWO MEN B AND A GIRL IN A

TWO MEN B AND A GIRL IN A
BIZARRE KIDNAPPING.

BIZARRE KIDNAPPING.
NO RANSOM NOTE, NO WORD, NO

NO RANSOM NOTE, NO WORD, NO
PHONE CALLS, NOTHING.

PHONE CALLS, NOTHING.
>> THE SOA IS IS THE PEOPLE'S

>> THE SOA IS IS THE PEOPLE'S
ARMY AND E WE FIGHT IN THEIR

ARMY AND E WE FIGHT IN THEIR
INTEREST ISES.

INTEREST ISES.
>> THE FBI SAID THE GIRL IN THE

>> THE FBI SAID THE GIRL IN THE
WAY WITH THE AUTOMATIC RIFLE WAS

WAY WITH THE AUTOMATIC RIFLE WAS
PATTI HEARST.

PATTI HEARST.
RICH COLLEGE GIRL TURNED ARMED

RICH COLLEGE GIRL TURNED ARMED
TERRORIST IN A MATTER OF WEEKS.

TERRORIST IN A MATTER OF WEEKS.
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA'S LARGEST

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA'S LARGEST
MANHUNT CONTINUES.

MANHUNT CONTINUES.
>> FOR SOMEONE MY AGE, I HAVE

>> FOR SOMEONE MY AGE, I HAVE
BEEN THROUGH AN AWFUL LOT.

BEEN THROUGH AN AWFUL LOT.
>> WE DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS.

>> WE DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS.
>> MOM, DAD, I'M OKAY.

>> MOM, DAD, I'M OKAY.
>>> LOOKING AT IT 45 YEARS

>>> LOOKING AT IT 45 YEARS
LATER, HOWEVER LONG IT'S BEEN,

LATER, HOWEVER LONG IT'S BEEN,
IT WASN'T A SIMPLE STORY.

IT WASN'T A SIMPLE STORY.
WHEN SOMEBODY YOU LOVE CLOSE TO

WHEN SOMEBODY YOU LOVE CLOSE TO
YOU IS KIDNAPPED, IT'S A

YOU IS KIDNAPPED, IT'S A
PARTICULAR KIND OF TORTURE THAT

PARTICULAR KIND OF TORTURE THAT
IT'S VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND

IT'S VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND
UNLESS IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO

UNLESS IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO
YOU.

YOU.
SHE DID CHANGE AND IT WASN'T TOO

SHE DID CHANGE AND IT WASN'T TOO
MANY MONTHS BEFORE.

MANY MONTHS BEFORE.
I REALIZE D IT.

I REALIZE D IT.
WE WEREN'T GETTING BACK

WE WEREN'T GETTING BACK
TOGETHER.

TOGETHER.
ERG WAS CRUSH ED.

ERG WAS CRUSH ED.
IT WAS GONE.

IT WAS GONE.
IT WAS DONE.

IT WAS DONE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO -- IF THIS IS

I'M JUST TRYING TO -- IF THIS IS
A DOCUMENTARY AND YOU WANT THE

A DOCUMENTARY AND YOU WANT THE
HISTORY, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT

HISTORY, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT
IT WAS LIKE BEFORE THE

IT WAS LIKE BEFORE THE
KIDNAPPING, THAT'S MY ANSWER.

KIDNAPPING, THAT'S MY ANSWER.
1972 I WAS TEACHING MATH AND JOE

1972 I WAS TEACHING MATH AND JOE
YOM TRY.

YOM TRY.
SHE CAME TO SOME GUITAR CLASSES

SHE CAME TO SOME GUITAR CLASSES
UFS GETTING.

UFS GETTING.
I DON'T THINK SHE WAS LEINTERESD

I DON'T THINK SHE WAS LEINTERESD
IN LEARNING THE GUITAR.

IN LEARNING THE GUITAR.
SHE JUST WANTED TO HANG OUT WITH

SHE JUST WANTED TO HANG OUT WITH
ONE OF THE OLDER TEACHERS.

ONE OF THE OLDER TEACHERS.
THAT WAS THE FIRST INTRODUCTION.

THAT WAS THE FIRST INTRODUCTION.
THEN SHE WOULD FIND WAYS TO TALK

THEN SHE WOULD FIND WAYS TO TALK
TO ME AND FINALLY ONE DAY SHE

TO ME AND FINALLY ONE DAY SHE
SHOWED UP AT MY HOUSE FOR SOL

SHOWED UP AT MY HOUSE FOR SOL
MATH TUTORING.

MATH TUTORING.
THAT BECAME A CONSTANT THING

THAT BECAME A CONSTANT THING
ACTUALLY.

ACTUALLY.
>> PATTY AND STEVE HAVE ALWAYS

>> PATTY AND STEVE HAVE ALWAYS
SAID THEIR ROMANCE BEGAN WHEN

SAID THEIR ROMANCE BEGAN WHEN
STOOE WAS 23 AND SHE WAS 16.

STOOE WAS 23 AND SHE WAS 16.
BY MY ACCOUNTING, IT MAY WELL

BY MY ACCOUNTING, IT MAY WELL
HAVE BEEN SHE WAS 15, BUT AS

HAVE BEEN SHE WAS 15, BUT AS
BOTH STEVE AND PATTY HAVE

BOTH STEVE AND PATTY HAVE
SCENTLY SAID, IT WAS PATTI WHO

SCENTLY SAID, IT WAS PATTI WHO
TARGETED STEVE FOR ROMANCE

TARGETED STEVE FOR ROMANCE
FIRST, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

FIRST, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
>> I NEVER WOULD HAVE INITIATED

>> I NEVER WOULD HAVE INITIATED
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WANTED AND SHE

SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WANTED AND SHE
JUST WENT FOR IT.

JUST WENT FOR IT.
SHE WAS KIND OF FEARLESS.

SHE WAS KIND OF FEARLESS.
ACTUALLY.

ACTUALLY.
>> PATTY WAS JUST 18 YEARS OLD

>> PATTY WAS JUST 18 YEARS OLD
WHEN SHE DECIDED TO MOVE IN WITH

WHEN SHE DECIDED TO MOVE IN WITH
STEVE.

STEVE.
THEY GOT A NICE LITTLE

THEY GOT A NICE LITTLE
APARTMENT.

APARTMENT.
VERY NEAR THE CAMPUS OF BERKLEY.

VERY NEAR THE CAMPUS OF BERKLEY.
>> FATHER WAS PRETTY EASY GOING

>> FATHER WAS PRETTY EASY GOING
ABOUT IT.

ABOUT IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO SHAKE UP WITH MY

YOU'RE GOING TO SHAKE UP WITH MY
DAUGHTER.

DAUGHTER.
YOU JUST TREAT HER NICELY.

YOU JUST TREAT HER NICELY.
HER MOTHER WAS VERY UNHAPPY

HER MOTHER WAS VERY UNHAPPY
ABOUT IT.

ABOUT IT.
BUT SHE DIDN'T SHOW IT.

BUT SHE DIDN'T SHOW IT.
AND SHE WAS.

AND SHE WAS.
>> IN THE 19 1970s HIS TITLE WAS

>> IN THE 19 1970s HIS TITLE WAS
PUBLISHER OF THE SAN FRANCISCO

PUBLISHER OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
EXAMINER.

EXAMINER.
>> HE WOULD COME INTO THE OFFICE

>> HE WOULD COME INTO THE OFFICE
AND NOT BE THERE EVERY DAY.

AND NOT BE THERE EVERY DAY.
HE WOULD BE WORKING AT THE

HE WOULD BE WORKING AT THE
PAUPER AND SAY I'M GOING TO GO

PAUPER AND SAY I'M GOING TO GO
DUCK HUNTING REMINDING US THAT

DUCK HUNTING REMINDING US THAT
HE LED A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF

HE LED A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF
LIFE THAN THE REST OF US.

LIFE THAN THE REST OF US.
>> THE NAME HEARST REALLY MEANT

>> THE NAME HEARST REALLY MEANT
SOMETHING IN AMERICA.

SOMETHING IN AMERICA.
IT WAS SYNONYMOUS WITH BIG MEDIA

IT WAS SYNONYMOUS WITH BIG MEDIA
AND OUTSTANDING OVER THE TOP

AND OUTSTANDING OVER THE TOP
WEALTH.

WEALTH.
CALIFORNIA HELD UP ANY FAMILY AS

CALIFORNIA HELD UP ANY FAMILY AS
ROYALTY, YOU'D HAVE TO SAY IT

ROYALTY, YOU'D HAVE TO SAY IT
WAS THE HEARSTS.

WAS THE HEARSTS.
THAT MADE PATTY IN HER OWN

THAT MADE PATTY IN HER OWN
LITTLE WAY A PRINCESS.

LITTLE WAY A PRINCESS.
>> PATTY'S GRANDFATHER WILLIAM

>> PATTY'S GRANDFATHER WILLIAM
RANDOLPH HEARST OWNED DOZENS OF

RANDOLPH HEARST OWNED DOZENS OF
NEWSPAPERS.

NEWSPAPERS.
HE DIDN'T JUST OWN THEM.

HE DIDN'T JUST OWN THEM.
HE USED THEM FOR POLITICAL AND

HE USED THEM FOR POLITICAL AND
ECONOMIC POWER.

ECONOMIC POWER.
>> HEARST WAS A LARGER THAN LIFE

>> HEARST WAS A LARGER THAN LIFE
FIGURE.

FIGURE.
HE WAS MORE THAN A BUSINESSMAN.

HE WAS MORE THAN A BUSINESSMAN.
HE WAS A CELEBRITY BEFORE THERE

HE WAS A CELEBRITY BEFORE THERE
WERE CELEBRITIES.

WERE CELEBRITIES.
>> ORR SONWELLS WROTE AND

>> ORR SONWELLS WROTE AND
DIRECTED "CITIZEN CANE" AS THE

DIRECTED "CITIZEN CANE" AS THE
LIFE STORY OF WILLIAM RANDOLPH

LIFE STORY OF WILLIAM RANDOLPH
HEARST.

HEARST.
>>M MANDI AND KATHERINE HEARS

>>M MANDI AND KATHERINE HEARS
LIVED WITH THEIR FIVE DAUGHTERS

LIVED WITH THEIR FIVE DAUGHTERS
IN HILLSBOROUGH, A BEAUTIFUL

IN HILLSBOROUGH, A BEAUTIFUL
COMMUNITY ON THE E PENINSULA.

COMMUNITY ON THE E PENINSULA.
>> RANDI TREATED PATTY OF HIS

>> RANDI TREATED PATTY OF HIS
FIVE DAUGHTERS THE MOST LIKE A

FIVE DAUGHTERS THE MOST LIKE A
SON.

SON.
BECAUSE SHE WAS TOUGH.

BECAUSE SHE WAS TOUGH.
HE CHANNELLED IT ON THE OUTINGS

HE CHANNELLED IT ON THE OUTINGS
THEY WENT ON TOGETHER.

THEY WENT ON TOGETHER.
THEY WENT HIKING, FISHING, THEY

THEY WENT HIKING, FISHING, THEY
WENT HUNTING AND HE TAUGHT HER

WENT HUNTING AND HE TAUGHT HER
TO SHOOT.

TO SHOOT.
>> HER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN

>> HER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
MOTHER WAS A LOT MORE

MOTHER WAS A LOT MORE
PROBLEMATIC.

PROBLEMATIC.
KATHERINE WAS A SOUTHERN BELL.

KATHERINE WAS A SOUTHERN BELL.
SHE WAS A WOMAN THAT HAD COME

SHE WAS A WOMAN THAT HAD COME
FROM GEORGIA.

FROM GEORGIA.
SWEPT OFF HER FEET BY THE

SWEPT OFF HER FEET BY THE
COSMOPOLITAN HEARST HEIR.

COSMOPOLITAN HEARST HEIR.
IEN WOULDN'T CALL HER SNOBBY,

IEN WOULDN'T CALL HER SNOBBY,
BUT SHE HAD AN UPPER CLASS KIND

BUT SHE HAD AN UPPER CLASS KIND
OF ATTITUDE.

OF ATTITUDE.
>> HER MOTHER WANTED PATTY TO DO

>> HER MOTHER WANTED PATTY TO DO
WELL IN SCHOOL, COME OUT IN

WELL IN SCHOOL, COME OUT IN
SOCIETY, GO TO COLLEGE, BUT

SOCIETY, GO TO COLLEGE, BUT
BASICALLY LEAD HER MOTHER'S

BASICALLY LEAD HER MOTHER'S
LIFE.

LIFE.
SHE WAS IN REBELLION AGAINST

SHE WAS IN REBELLION AGAINST
SOME OF THE STRICTURES THAT HER

SOME OF THE STRICTURES THAT HER
MOTHER IMPOSE D ON HER.

MOTHER IMPOSE D ON HER.
LIKE CONVENT SCHOOLS.

LIKE CONVENT SCHOOLS.
SHE LOATHED CONVENT SCHOOLS AND

SHE LOATHED CONVENT SCHOOLS AND
SHE GOT THROWN OUT OF SEVERAL OF

SHE GOT THROWN OUT OF SEVERAL OF
THEM.

THEM.
>> SHE WANTED THE INDEPENDENT,

>> SHE WANTED THE INDEPENDENT,
SHE REALLY WANTED TO BECOME AN

SHE REALLY WANTED TO BECOME AN
ADULT.

ADULT.
IT'S REALLY WHAT IT WAS.

IT'S REALLY WHAT IT WAS.
>> I WAS JUST A COLLEGE STUDENT

>> I WAS JUST A COLLEGE STUDENT
AT BERKLEY.

AT BERKLEY.
AND I WAS LIVING WITH MY

AND I WAS LIVING WITH MY
BOYFRIEND.

BOYFRIEND.
I WAS JUST LIKE A DUMB

I WAS JUST LIKE A DUMB
19-YEAR-OLD.

19-YEAR-OLD.
THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THAT'S ABOUT IT.
>> WE LIVED IN A TWO-STORY

>> WE LIVED IN A TWO-STORY
TOWNHOUSE.

TOWNHOUSE.
THERE WAS STILL KIND OF A DICEY

THERE WAS STILL KIND OF A DICEY
STRAIGHT SCENE IN BERKLEY, PETTY

STRAIGHT SCENE IN BERKLEY, PETTY
CRIME, I THINK THREE DAY BFRS

CRIME, I THINK THREE DAY BFRS
THE KIDNAPPING A COUPLE SHOWED

THE KIDNAPPING A COUPLE SHOWED
UP AT NIGHT LOOKING A LITTLE BIT

UP AT NIGHT LOOKING A LITTLE BIT
SKETCHY ASKING ABOUT RENTALS.

SKETCHY ASKING ABOUT RENTALS.
THEY DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT.

THEY DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT.
IN RETROSPECT, OBVIOUSLY, THEY

IN RETROSPECT, OBVIOUSLY, THEY
WERE CHECKING US OUT.

WERE CHECKING US OUT.
BUT THE TIME WE JUST DISMISSED

BUT THE TIME WE JUST DISMISSED
IT AS ANOTHER RANDOM BERKLEY

IT AS ANOTHER RANDOM BERKLEY
KIND OF THING.

KIND OF THING.
BUT WE WEREN'T AT ALL PARANOID.

BUT WE WEREN'T AT ALL PARANOID.
WE JUST FINISHED HAVING DINNER,

WE JUST FINISHED HAVING DINNER,
WATCHING A TV SHOW AND GETTING

WATCHING A TV SHOW AND GETTING
READY TO STUDY.

READY TO STUDY.
THERE WAS A KNOCK ON THE DOOR.

THERE WAS A KNOCK ON THE DOOR.
THERE WAS A WOMAN AT THE FRONT

THERE WAS A WOMAN AT THE FRONT
DOOR.

DOOR.
>> THERE WAS A PERSON STANDING

>> THERE WAS A PERSON STANDING
THIS.

THIS.
I HAD MOVED INTO THE KITCHEN.

I HAD MOVED INTO THE KITCHEN.
AND WHAT I COULD HEAR WAS THAT

AND WHAT I COULD HEAR WAS THAT
THEY THOUGHT THEY'D HIT A CAR

THEY THOUGHT THEY'D HIT A CAR
DOWNSTAIRS.

DOWNSTAIRS.
COULD THEY USE THE PHONE.

COULD THEY USE THE PHONE.
AND WITH THAT, PEOPLE JUST BURST

AND WITH THAT, PEOPLE JUST BURST
INTO THE APARTMENT.

>>> THEY PUSHED BACK SHOUTING
GET YOUR FACE ON THE FLOOR.

GET YOUR FACE ON THE FLOOR.
WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHAT'S GOING ON.
STARTED KICK ING ME, HITTING ME.

STARTED KICK ING ME, HITTING ME.
>> IT WAS JUST A GUN IN MY FACE.

>> IT WAS JUST A GUN IN MY FACE.
I WAS PUSHED DOWN TO THE KITCHEN

I WAS PUSHED DOWN TO THE KITCHEN
FLOOR.

FLOOR.
I WAS TIED UP AND GAGGED AND

I WAS TIED UP AND GAGGED AND
BLINDFOLDED.

BLINDFOLDED.
I BIT DOWN ON THE GAG BECAUSE I

I BIT DOWN ON THE GAG BECAUSE I
JUST ASSUMED THEY WERE GOING TO

JUST ASSUMED THEY WERE GOING TO
BURGLARIZE THE APARTMENT.

BURGLARIZE THE APARTMENT.
>> ABOUT THAT POINT, THEY

>> ABOUT THAT POINT, THEY
STARTED DEMANDING WHERE'S THE

STARTED DEMANDING WHERE'S THE
SAFE, WHERE'S THE MONEY.

SAFE, WHERE'S THE MONEY.
I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT

I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
WAS HAPPENING.

WAS HAPPENING.
AND THE NATURAL CONCLUSION WAS

AND THE NATURAL CONCLUSION WAS
THAT IT WAS A ROBBERY.

THAT IT WAS A ROBBERY.
I COULD HEAR PATTY IN THE OTHER

I COULD HEAR PATTY IN THE OTHER
ROOM.

ROOM.
I SAID WE DON'T HAVE A SAFE.

I SAID WE DON'T HAVE A SAFE.
TAKE ANYTHING YOU WANT.

TAKE ANYTHING YOU WANT.
JUST LEAVE US ALONE.

JUST LEAVE US ALONE.
EVERY TIME I'D LOOK UP, THEY'D

EVERY TIME I'D LOOK UP, THEY'D
KICK ME IN THE FACE.

KICK ME IN THE FACE.
I DO REMEMBER THE WOMAN SAYING

I DO REMEMBER THE WOMAN SAYING
THEY SEEN OUR FACES.

THEY SEEN OUR FACES.
WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THEM.

WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THEM.
WE HAD THIS ONE BOTTLE L OF

WE HAD THIS ONE BOTTLE L OF
ROMANCE WINE.

ROMANCE WINE.
AND THEY GRABBED ONE AND STARTED

AND THEY GRABBED ONE AND STARTED
HITTING ME ON THE HEAD WITH IT

HITTING ME ON THE HEAD WITH IT
REALLY HARD.

REALLY HARD.
AND EVEN IF HE'S GOING TO KILL

AND EVEN IF HE'S GOING TO KILL
US, I JUST -- MY EYES WERE FULL

US, I JUST -- MY EYES WERE FULL
OF BLOOD.

OF BLOOD.
I COULDN'T SEE.

I COULDN'T SEE.
I LURCHED UP AND INSTEAD OF

I LURCHED UP AND INSTEAD OF
RUNNING OUT THE FRONT DOOR, I

RUNNING OUT THE FRONT DOOR, I
JUST WENT RUNNING AROUND THE

JUST WENT RUNNING AROUND THE
LIVING ROOM YELLING AT THE TOP

LIVING ROOM YELLING AT THE TOP
OF MY LUNGS KNOCKING OVER

OF MY LUNGS KNOCKING OVER
FURNITURE, KNOCKING OVER PLANTS,

FURNITURE, KNOCKING OVER PLANTS,
JUST BANG.

JUST BANG.
ING INTO THINGS HOPING THE

ING INTO THINGS HOPING THE
DISTRACTION WOULD DRIVE THEM

DISTRACTION WOULD DRIVE THEM
AWAY.

AWAY.
I OPENED THE DOOR AND JUMPED

I OPENED THE DOOR AND JUMPED
OVER THE FENCE AND STARTED

OVER THE FENCE AND STARTED
BANGING ON THE NEIGHBOR'S DOOR.

BANGING ON THE NEIGHBOR'S DOOR.
EVEN IN MY STATE OF DELIRIUM, I

EVEN IN MY STATE OF DELIRIUM, I
COULD TELL THEY WEREN'T GOING TO

COULD TELL THEY WEREN'T GOING TO
ANSWER THE DOOR.

ANSWER THE DOOR.
I COULD REALIZE I WAS TERRIFYING

I COULD REALIZE I WAS TERRIFYING
SOMEONE INSIDE.

SOMEONE INSIDE.
I ASSUMED IT WAS A ROBBERY GONE

I ASSUMED IT WAS A ROBBERY GONE
BAD.

BAD.
I DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME.

I DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME.
>> PATTY HEARST WAS KIDNAPPED BY

>> PATTY HEARST WAS KIDNAPPED BY
A SMALL, VIOLENT REVOLUTIONARY

A SMALL, VIOLENT REVOLUTIONARY
GROUP CALLED THE SOA.

GROUP CALLED THE SOA.
TO UNDERSTAND THE SLA, YOU HAVE

TO UNDERSTAND THE SLA, YOU HAVE
TO UNDERSTAND BERKLEY IN 1973.

TO UNDERSTAND BERKLEY IN 1973.
AND TO UNDERSTAND BERKELEY, YOU

AND TO UNDERSTAND BERKELEY, YOU
HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE '60s AND

HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE '60s AND
WHAT SAN FRANCISCO BECAME.

WHAT SAN FRANCISCO BECAME.
IF YOU WERE RADICAL IN THE '60s

IF YOU WERE RADICAL IN THE '60s
AND EARLY '70s, IF YOU WANTED TO

AND EARLY '70s, IF YOU WANTED TO
CHANGE THE WORLD, YOU WERE AT

CHANGE THE WORLD, YOU WERE AT
LEAST GIVE ING THE PASSING THOUT

LEAST GIVE ING THE PASSING THOUT
TO BERKELEY.

TO BERKELEY.
>> THERE WAS SO MUCH TURMOIL IN

>> THERE WAS SO MUCH TURMOIL IN
THOSE YEARS.

THOSE YEARS.
THERE HAD BEEN THE CIVIL RIGHTS

THERE HAD BEEN THE CIVIL RIGHTS
MOVEMENT AND THEN THE ANTI-WAR

MOVEMENT AND THEN THE ANTI-WAR
MOVEMENT.

MOVEMENT.
AND YOUNG PEOPLE WERE REBELLIOUS

AND YOUNG PEOPLE WERE REBELLIOUS
AND HAD A SENSE OF POWER THAT WE

AND HAD A SENSE OF POWER THAT WE
CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THAT WE

CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THAT WE
COULD END THE WAR IN VIETNAM.

COULD END THE WAR IN VIETNAM.
>> BY.

>> BY.
THE '70s, THERE WAS ANGER AND AN

THE '70s, THERE WAS ANGER AND AN
INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE

INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE
THAT WE CAN HARDLY IMAGINE

THAT WE CAN HARDLY IMAGINE
TODAY.

TODAY.
>> IT WAS AS CLOSE TO

>> IT WAS AS CLOSE TO
REVOLUTIONARY SITUATION AS SOME

REVOLUTIONARY SITUATION AS SOME
PEOPLE'S MINDS AS HE HAD EVER

PEOPLE'S MINDS AS HE HAD EVER
HAD.

HAD.
ONCE YOU GET BEAT UP A FEW TIMES

ONCE YOU GET BEAT UP A FEW TIMES
BY THE COPS, WHEN YOU PROTEST

BY THE COPS, WHEN YOU PROTEST
AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE

AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE
BETWEEN TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK

BETWEEN TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK
OR DO SOMETHING MORE

OR DO SOMETHING MORE
EXTRAORDINARY IN REACTION TO THE

EXTRAORDINARY IN REACTION TO THE
VIOLENCE OF THE STATE, THEY WERE

VIOLENCE OF THE STATE, THEY WERE
CUEING US ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

CUEING US ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
>> NIXON IS DEFINITELY LOOKING

>> NIXON IS DEFINITELY LOOKING
AT STUDENTS AS THE ENEMIES IN

AT STUDENTS AS THE ENEMIES IN
THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE TO GO UNDERGROUND.

WE HAVE TO GO UNDERGROUND.
IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD FOR US.

IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD FOR US.
>> A LOT OF THESE GROUPS GOT

>> A LOT OF THESE GROUPS GOT
MORE RADICAL BECAUSE THEY

MORE RADICAL BECAUSE THEY
BELIEVED THAT THERE SHOULD BE A

BELIEVED THAT THERE SHOULD BE A
REVOLUTION THAT IT WILL BE AN

REVOLUTION THAT IT WILL BE AN
ARMED REVOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO

ARMED REVOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO
O

O
OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT AND SO

OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT AND SO
A LOT OF THESE GROOUPS STUDIED

A LOT OF THESE GROOUPS STUDIED
BASIC MARKS, STUDIED COMMUNISM.

BASIC MARKS, STUDIED COMMUNISM.
IN UNDERGROUND CELLS AND THEY

IN UNDERGROUND CELLS AND THEY
TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY WAY

TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY WAY
THAT YOU CAN CHANGE A SOCIETY

THAT YOU CAN CHANGE A SOCIETY
FOR THE BETTER WAS TO HAVE THIS

FOR THE BETTER WAS TO HAVE THIS
ARMED REVOLUTION.

ARMED REVOLUTION.
>> WE FELT THAT WE HAD TO KIND

>> WE FELT THAT WE HAD TO KIND
OF RAMP UP THE RESPONSE.

OF RAMP UP THE RESPONSE.
I DIDN'T COME TO THIS CONCLUSION

I DIDN'T COME TO THIS CONCLUSION
TO DO WHAT I WAS DOING IN TWO

TO DO WHAT I WAS DOING IN TWO
WEEKS OR A MONTH.

WEEKS OR A MONTH.
IT WAS A HUGE EVOLUTION.

IT WAS A HUGE EVOLUTION.
I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL IN 1963.

I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL IN 1963.
THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS

THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS
RAMPING UP.

RAMPING UP.
BUT I HAD NO POLITICAL

BUT I HAD NO POLITICAL
CONSCIOUSES OF ANY KIND.

CONSCIOUSES OF ANY KIND.
VIETNAM TOTALLY FLIPPED MY

VIETNAM TOTALLY FLIPPED MY
PERSPECTIVE.

PERSPECTIVE.
MY FIRST DAY IN VIETNAM, I HAD

MY FIRST DAY IN VIETNAM, I HAD
TO WITNESS A TORTURE OF A

TO WITNESS A TORTURE OF A
PRISONER.

PRISONER.
WHEN YOU GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF

WHEN YOU GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF
CONFLICT, IT'S HARD TO ADJUST

CONFLICT, IT'S HARD TO ADJUST
COMING BACK HOME.

COMING BACK HOME.
REALLY VIETNAM WAS THE PRECURSOR

REALLY VIETNAM WAS THE PRECURSOR
TO THE SLA.

TO THE SLA.
1968, SHE WAS A SORORITY GIRL.

1968, SHE WAS A SORORITY GIRL.
EMMY EVOLVED DURING OUR

EMMY EVOLVED DURING OUR
RELATIONSHIP.

RELATIONSHIP.
FROM A PERSON THAT DIDN'T HAVE

FROM A PERSON THAT DIDN'T HAVE
ANY POLITICS TO SOMEBODY THAT

ANY POLITICS TO SOMEBODY THAT
FELT STRONGLY ABOUT POLITICS.

FELT STRONGLY ABOUT POLITICS.
AND SHE GOT MORE INVOLVED IN

AND SHE GOT MORE INVOLVED IN
WOMEN'S ISSUES, SHE BECAME MORE

WOMEN'S ISSUES, SHE BECAME MORE
AND MORE RADICALIZED FROM HER

AND MORE RADICALIZED FROM HER
OWN SELF-INTERESTS.

OWN SELF-INTERESTS.
EMILY AND I GOT MARRIED IN

EMILY AND I GOT MARRIED IN
NOVEMBER OF 1971.

NOVEMBER OF 1971.
WE MOVED TO THE BAY AREA TO GET

WE MOVED TO THE BAY AREA TO GET
INVOLVED IN POLITICAL WORK.

INVOLVED IN POLITICAL WORK.
I LOOKED UP AN OLD FRIEND FROM

I LOOKED UP AN OLD FRIEND FROM
COLLEGE THAT I FOUND OUT WAS

COLLEGE THAT I FOUND OUT WAS
GETTING MORE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN

GETTING MORE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN
THINGS.

THINGS.
I MET ANGELA ATWOOD IN THE

I MET ANGELA ATWOOD IN THE
THEATER IT DEPARTMENT.

THEATER IT DEPARTMENT.
SHE ALWAYS HAD IDEAS INFLUENCED

SHE ALWAYS HAD IDEAS INFLUENCED
BY MODERN FEMINISM THINKING AND

BY MODERN FEMINISM THINKING AND
SHE WENT THROUGH DRAMATIC

SHE WENT THROUGH DRAMATIC
CHANGES DURING THE SAME PERIOD.

CHANGES DURING THE SAME PERIOD.
THE THREE OF US WERE INTERESTED

THE THREE OF US WERE INTERESTED
IN GET TING MORE DEEPLY INVOLVE

IN GET TING MORE DEEPLY INVOLVE
IN THINGS.

IN THINGS.
WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW ANYBODY TO

WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW ANYBODY TO
HOOK UP BE UNTIL I MET JOE

HOOK UP BE UNTIL I MET JOE
REMIRO.

REMIRO.
HE INVITED ME TO A COMMUNITY

HE INVITED ME TO A COMMUNITY
MEETING.

MEETING.
THIS MEETING THAT I MET ANOTHER

THIS MEETING THAT I MET ANOTHER
FUTURE COMRADE.

FUTURE COMRADE.
WE START PLANNING FOR THE

WE START PLANNING FOR THE
FUTURE.

FUTURE.
WE'RE KIND OF ON A PATH TO WHERE

WE'RE KIND OF ON A PATH TO WHERE
THIS IS GOING TO ESCALATE.

THIS IS GOING TO ESCALATE.
WE'RE GOING TO CATCH PEOPLE'S

WE'RE GOING TO CATCH PEOPLE'S
ATTENTION B

>>> PATTY AND I WE JUST HAD A
REALLY GOOD LIFE TOGETHER.

REALLY GOOD LIFE TOGETHER.
SHE WAS FUN LOVING.

SHE WAS FUN LOVING.
SHE WAS EASY TO GET ALONG WITH.

SHE WAS EASY TO GET ALONG WITH.
WE HAD GREAT TIMES TOGETHER.

WE HAD GREAT TIMES TOGETHER.
E WE WOULD TRAVEL NOT JUST TO

E WE WOULD TRAVEL NOT JUST TO
SIMPSON, BUT E WE WENT ON ROAD

SIMPSON, BUT E WE WENT ON ROAD
TRIPS TOGETHER.

TRIPS TOGETHER.
AND PATTY WAS GETTING ANCHORED

AND PATTY WAS GETTING ANCHORED
IN HER ART HISTORY.

IN HER ART HISTORY.
AND EVERYTHING SEEMED LIKE IT

AND EVERYTHING SEEMED LIKE IT
WAS HEADING IN THE RIGHT

WAS HEADING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.

DIRECTION.
PATTY AND I DECIDED WE SHOULD

PATTY AND I DECIDED WE SHOULD
GET MARRIED.

GET MARRIED.
E WE ANNOUNCED OUR ENGAGEMENT TO

E WE ANNOUNCED OUR ENGAGEMENT TO
THE EXAMINER, OF COURSE.

THE EXAMINER, OF COURSE.
AND WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO

AND WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO
IT.

IT.
>> WHILE STEVE AND PATTY ARE ARE

>> WHILE STEVE AND PATTY ARE ARE
GOING ABOUT THEIR EVERYDAY

GOING ABOUT THEIR EVERYDAY
BUSINESS IN BERKELEY, THE SLA IS

BUSINESS IN BERKELEY, THE SLA IS
STARTING TO FORM IN A VERY

STARTING TO FORM IN A VERY
DIFFERENT PLACE.

DIFFERENT PLACE.
IN A PRISON.

IN A PRISON.
ONE OF THE KEY ASPECTS OF THE

ONE OF THE KEY ASPECTS OF THE
POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT IN THE BAY

POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT IN THE BAY
AREA WAS THE PRISON MOVEMENT.

AREA WAS THE PRISON MOVEMENT.
FOR A LOT OF RADICALS IN THE

FOR A LOT OF RADICALS IN THE
'70s, PRISON SYMBOLIZED

'70s, PRISON SYMBOLIZED
EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRONG WITH

EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRONG WITH
AMERICAN CITIZEN.

AMERICAN CITIZEN.
IT'S RACISM, SILENCE,

IT'S RACISM, SILENCE,
SUPPRESSION OF POOR PEOPLE AND

SUPPRESSION OF POOR PEOPLE AND
THE RADICALS SAW THE PRISONS AS

THE RADICALS SAW THE PRISONS AS
A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD FE

A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD FE
MEANT REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE.

MEANT REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE.
>> THEY WERE DOING WORK INSIDE

>> THEY WERE DOING WORK INSIDE
THE CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM.

THE CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM.
IT'S INHERENTLY POLITICAL IF THE

IT'S INHERENTLY POLITICAL IF THE
PROCESS OF THE SYSTEM HAMMERS

PROCESS OF THE SYSTEM HAMMERS
PEOPLE OF COLOR MORE THAN WHITE

PEOPLE OF COLOR MORE THAN WHITE
PEOPLE.

PEOPLE.
THIS IS THE GBEGINNING OF THING

THIS IS THE GBEGINNING OF THING
LIKE MASS INCARCERATION.

LIKE MASS INCARCERATION.
THIS IS HOW WE DEAL WITH

THIS IS HOW WE DEAL WITH
POVERTY.

POVERTY.
WE LOCK IT UP.

WE LOCK IT UP.
>> SINCE BERKELEY WAS THE

>> SINCE BERKELEY WAS THE
EPICENTER OF THE PROTEST

EPICENTER OF THE PROTEST
MOVEMENT, IT WAS A PLACE WHERE

MOVEMENT, IT WAS A PLACE WHERE
RADICALS WANTED TO TRY TO SPREAD

RADICALS WANTED TO TRY TO SPREAD
THE GOSPEL TO PRISONS.

THE GOSPEL TO PRISONS.
IN THE NEAREST PRISON WAS

IN THE NEAREST PRISON WAS
VIRGINIA KAVILLE.

VIRGINIA KAVILLE.
SO YOU HAD THIS PIPELINE WHERE

SO YOU HAD THIS PIPELINE WHERE
STUDENTS AND EX-STUDENTS AT

STUDENTS AND EX-STUDENTS AT
BERKELEY WOULD GO TO VACAVILLE,

BERKELEY WOULD GO TO VACAVILLE,
SORT OF AS TEACHERS, BUT REALLY

SORT OF AS TEACHERS, BUT REALLY
AS POLITICAL ORGANIZERS.

AS POLITICAL ORGANIZERS.
ONE PRISONER REALLY STOOD OUT AS

ONE PRISONER REALLY STOOD OUT AS
THE LEADER OF THE POLITICAL

THE LEADER OF THE POLITICAL
GROUP IN THE PRISON AND THAT WAS

GROUP IN THE PRISON AND THAT WAS
DONALD DEFREEZE.

DONALD DEFREEZE.
DONALD DEFREEZE WAS BASICALLY A

DONALD DEFREEZE WAS BASICALLY A
PROFESSIONAL CRIMINAL.

PROFESSIONAL CRIMINAL.
HE HAD BEEN IN AND OUT OF PRISON

HE HAD BEEN IN AND OUT OF PRISON
HIS WHOLE LIFE.

HIS WHOLE LIFE.
WHAT LANDED HIM THERE FOR THE

WHAT LANDED HIM THERE FOR THE
LAST TIME WAS WHEN HE BEAT UP A

LAST TIME WAS WHEN HE BEAT UP A
PROSTITUTE, STOLE A CHECK FROM

PROSTITUTE, STOLE A CHECK FROM
HER AND TRIED TO CATCH IT AND

HER AND TRIED TO CATCH IT AND
GOT CAUGHT.

GOT CAUGHT.
WILLIE WOLF WAS AN UPPER MIDDLE

WILLIE WOLF WAS AN UPPER MIDDLE
CLASS KID, A PHYSICIANS SON FROM

CLASS KID, A PHYSICIANS SON FROM
CONNECTICUT WHO WENT TO BERKELEY

CONNECTICUT WHO WENT TO BERKELEY
TO TRY TO BE AN ARCHAEOLOGIST.

TO TRY TO BE AN ARCHAEOLOGIST.
BUT IN SHORT ORDER, HE BECAME

BUT IN SHORT ORDER, HE BECAME
RADICALIZED.

RADICALIZED.
AND HE BECAME PART OF THIS GROUP

AND HE BECAME PART OF THIS GROUP
THAT SPENT ITS TIME GOING TO

THAT SPENT ITS TIME GOING TO
VACAVILLE PRISON AND HE BECAME B

VACAVILLE PRISON AND HE BECAME B
FRIENDS WITH DONALD DEFREEZE.

FRIENDS WITH DONALD DEFREEZE.
DEFREEZE HAD A PLAN.

DEFREEZE HAD A PLAN.
ALL THE JOBS IN THE PRISON WERE

ALL THE JOBS IN THE PRISON WERE
DONE BY A CONVICT.

DONE BY A CONVICT.
DEFREEZE KNEW ENOUGH FROM

DEFREEZE KNEW ENOUGH FROM
TALKING TO OTHER PRISONERS THAT

TALKING TO OTHER PRISONERS THAT
THE MAN IN THE BOILERS IS A JOB

THE MAN IN THE BOILERS IS A JOB
OUTSIDE THE FENCE.

OUTSIDE THE FENCE.
AND THE FIRST TIME THEY SENT HIM

AND THE FIRST TIME THEY SENT HIM
TO HIS JOB, HE STAYED THERE FOR

TO HIS JOB, HE STAYED THERE FOR
A COUPLE HOURS AND HE WAS GONE.

A COUPLE HOURS AND HE WAS GONE.
I'M NOT SURE WHO PICKED HIM UP.

I'M NOT SURE WHO PICKED HIM UP.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS WILLIE.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS WILLIE.
WHEN DEFREEZE ESCAPED, THAT WAS

WHEN DEFREEZE ESCAPED, THAT WAS
THE BEGINNING OF THE SLA.

THE BEGINNING OF THE SLA.
>> DONALD DEFREEZE GOES TO THE

>> DONALD DEFREEZE GOES TO THE
ONLY PLACE HE KNOWS HE'S LIKELY

ONLY PLACE HE KNOWS HE'S LIKELY
TO GET A WARM WELCOME AND THAT'S

TO GET A WARM WELCOME AND THAT'S
BERKELEY.

BERKELEY.
HE HOOKS UP ON THE OUTSIDE WITH

HE HOOKS UP ON THE OUTSIDE WITH
SOME OF THE THE STUDENT WHO IS

SOME OF THE THE STUDENT WHO IS
HAD BEEN VISITING HIM IN THE

HAD BEEN VISITING HIM IN THE
INSIDE.

INSIDE.
THAT INCLUDES JOE REMIRO, RUSS

THAT INCLUDES JOE REMIRO, RUSS
LITTLE AND IN THEIR SOCIAL

LITTLE AND IN THEIR SOCIAL
CIRCLE ARE NANCY PERRY.

CIRCLE ARE NANCY PERRY.
THEY WIND UP MOVING IN WITH

THEY WIND UP MOVING IN WITH
DONALD DEFREEZE AND START COMING

DONALD DEFREEZE AND START COMING
UP WITH THESE IDEAS ABOUT REV

UP WITH THESE IDEAS ABOUT REV
LAS VEGAS NAR CHANGE.

LAS VEGAS NAR CHANGE.
THE THREE OF THEM BECOME THE

THE THREE OF THEM BECOME THE
NUCLEUS OF THE LIBERATION ARMY.

NUCLEUS OF THE LIBERATION ARMY.
>> ASSUMING THEY COMMITTED A

>> ASSUMING THEY COMMITTED A
HORRENDOUS CRIME BEFORE

HORRENDOUS CRIME BEFORE
KIDNAPPING PATTY HEARST.

KIDNAPPING PATTY HEARST.
THAT INCIDENT GETS LOST WHEN WE

THAT INCIDENT GETS LOST WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT THE PATTY HEARST

TALK ABOUT THE PATTY HEARST
KIDNAP.

KIDNAP.
>> DURING THE FALL OF 1973,

>> DURING THE FALL OF 1973,
DONALD DEFREEZE AND A FUGITIVE.

DONALD DEFREEZE AND A FUGITIVE.
SO HE CAN'T BE.

SO HE CAN'T BE.
OUT AND ABOUT.

OUT AND ABOUT.
HE SITS IN THE APARTMENT AND HE

HE SITS IN THE APARTMENT AND HE
STOO STEWS.

STOO STEWS.
>> DEFREEZE SEES A PIECE ON THE

>> DEFREEZE SEES A PIECE ON THE
OAKLAND SCHOOLS.

OAKLAND SCHOOLS.
>> THE SCHOOLS CANNOT DO THE JOB

>> THE SCHOOLS CANNOT DO THE JOB
OF EDUCATION IN THE BIG.

OF EDUCATION IN THE BIG.
CITIES ALONE.

CITIES ALONE.
>> MARCUS FOSTER BECAME A

>> MARCUS FOSTER BECAME A
CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE.

CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE.
PARTIALLY BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING

PARTIALLY BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING
TO HAVE A POLICE PRESENCE IN THE

TO HAVE A POLICE PRESENCE IN THE
SCHOOLS AND ESTABLISH A KIND OF

SCHOOLS AND ESTABLISH A KIND OF
ID SYSTEM FOR THE STUDENTS.

ID SYSTEM FOR THE STUDENTS.
THE CONCERN WAS THAT THE POLICE

THE CONCERN WAS THAT THE POLICE
WOULD BE IN THE SCHOOLS NOT TO

WOULD BE IN THE SCHOOLS NOT TO
PROTECT THE STUDENTS, BUT TO

PROTECT THE STUDENTS, BUT TO
CONTROL THEM.

CONTROL THEM.
DEFREEZE BECAME CONVINCED THAT

DEFREEZE BECAME CONVINCED THAT
FOSTER HAD TO BE KILLED.

FOSTER HAD TO BE KILLED.
>> ONE NIGHT MARCUS FOSTER WAS

>> ONE NIGHT MARCUS FOSTER WAS
WALKING FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD

WALKING FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD
BUILDING TO HIS CAR.

BUILDING TO HIS CAR.
>> THEY WAITED FOR THE END OF A

>> THEY WAITED FOR THE END OF A
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AND AS HE

SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AND AS HE
WALKED INTO THE PARKING LOT,

WALKED INTO THE PARKING LOT,
THEY SHOT MARCUS FOSTER DEAD

THEY SHOT MARCUS FOSTER DEAD
POINT-BLANK RANGE.

POINT-BLANK RANGE.
>> THE THEORY WAS THAT DEFREEZE,

>> THE THEORY WAS THAT DEFREEZE,
NANCY AND WERE THE SHOOTERS AND

NANCY AND WERE THE SHOOTERS AND
JOE REMRO AND RUSS LITTLE WERE

JOE REMRO AND RUSS LITTLE WERE
THE LOOKOUTS.

THE LOOKOUTS.
THEY HAD GUNS WITH THEM, BUT

THEY HAD GUNS WITH THEM, BUT
WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE

WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE
SHOOTING.

SHOOTING.
>> IN A COMMUNICATIVE NEWSPAPER

>> IN A COMMUNICATIVE NEWSPAPER
THE SLA TOOK CREDIT FOR THE N

THE SLA TOOK CREDIT FOR THE N
FOSTER'S MURDER.

FOSTER'S MURDER.
>> THEY WERE PROUD OF WHAT THEY

>> THEY WERE PROUD OF WHAT THEY
HAD DONE.

HAD DONE.
>> SUCH AN ATTACK WAS THE ONLY

>> SUCH AN ATTACK WAS THE ONLY
MEANS LEFT OPEN TO DEMAND THAT

MEANS LEFT OPEN TO DEMAND THAT
THE PEOPLE'S WISHES BE MET AND

THE PEOPLE'S WISHES BE MET AND
ALL SUCH DANGEROUS GENOCIDE

ALL SUCH DANGEROUS GENOCIDE
PROGRAMS BE.

PROGRAMS BE.
STOPPED.

STOPPED.
>> I WAS SURPRISED BY IT.

>> I WAS SURPRISED BY IT.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY EXISTED.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY EXISTED.
I WAS THINKING, OH, MY GOODNESS.

I WAS THINKING, OH, MY GOODNESS.
I THOUGHT THE PAN B THEY ARES

I THOUGHT THE PAN B THEY ARES
DID IT.

DID IT.
>> THE BULLETS THAT WERE USED TO

>> THE BULLETS THAT WERE USED TO
KILL HIM WERE CYANIDE TIPPED.

KILL HIM WERE CYANIDE TIPPED.
THEY KNEW HOW TO DRAW ATTENTION.

THEY KNEW HOW TO DRAW ATTENTION.
>> I NEVER HEARD OF ANYBODY

>> I NEVER HEARD OF ANYBODY
PUTTING CYANIDE INTO A LETHAL

PUTTING CYANIDE INTO A LETHAL
ROUND.

ROUND.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THAT.

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THAT.
IT WAS A MARK OF THE SLA.

IT WAS A MARK OF THE SLA.
>> MY REACTION WAS WHO THE HELL

>> MY REACTION WAS WHO THE HELL
ARE THESE GUYS.

ARE THESE GUYS.
WE BETTER FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE

WE BETTER FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE
AND WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT.

>>> PATTY AND I HAD NO INTEREST
IN POLITICS.

IN POLITICS.
IT WAS NOT PART OF OUR LIFE IN

IT WAS NOT PART OF OUR LIFE IN
MY RESPECT WHATSOEVER.

MY RESPECT WHATSOEVER.
I'M EMPHASIZING THAT BECAUSE A

I'M EMPHASIZING THAT BECAUSE A
LOT HAS BEEN SAID THAT SOMEBODY

LOT HAS BEEN SAID THAT SOMEBODY
WAS ALREADY PICKING AT POLITICS.

WAS ALREADY PICKING AT POLITICS.
IT'S NOT TRUE.

IT'S NOT TRUE.
THAT WAS EVEN A THEORY FLOATED

THAT WAS EVEN A THEORY FLOATED
LATER VERY SERIOUSLY WHEN SHE

LATER VERY SERIOUSLY WHEN SHE
HAD BEEN IN OB THE KIDNAPPING.

HAD BEEN IN OB THE KIDNAPPING.
IT'S CRAZY.

IT'S CRAZY.
VERY MUCH IN THE MIDDLE AND IT

VERY MUCH IN THE MIDDLE AND IT
JUST DID NOT AFFECT US ONE WAY

JUST DID NOT AFFECT US ONE WAY
OR ANOTHER.

OR ANOTHER.
EVERYBODY HAD HEARD OF THE SLA

EVERYBODY HAD HEARD OF THE SLA
BECAUSE OF THE ASSASSINATION OF

BECAUSE OF THE ASSASSINATION OF
MARCUS FOSTER.

MARCUS FOSTER.
IT WAS ALL IN THE NEWS.

IT WAS ALL IN THE NEWS.
WE HEARD ABOUT IT, BUT WE DIDN'T

WE HEARD ABOUT IT, BUT WE DIDN'T
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE

KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE
THAT WERE IN THE SLA.

THAT WERE IN THE SLA.
>> DONALD DEFREEZE DID HAVE A

>> DONALD DEFREEZE DID HAVE A
DRAMATIC SENSE ABOUT HIM.

DRAMATIC SENSE ABOUT HIM.
HE WAS THE ONE WHO CAME UP WITH

HE WAS THE ONE WHO CAME UP WITH
THE NAME OF THE SLA.

THE NAME OF THE SLA.
IT WAS BASED ON SYMBIOSIS

IT WAS BASED ON SYMBIOSIS
BETWEEN STUDENTS AND PRISONERS.

BETWEEN STUDENTS AND PRISONERS.
DEFREEZE, TOO, CAME UP WITH THE

DEFREEZE, TOO, CAME UP WITH THE
LOGO OF THE SEVEN-HEADED COBRA

LOGO OF THE SEVEN-HEADED COBRA
AND THE SEVEN VALUES OF EACH

AND THE SEVEN VALUES OF EACH
HEAD OF THE COBRA WERE THE SAME

HEAD OF THE COBRA WERE THE SAME
VALUES THAT UNDERLINE THE

VALUES THAT UNDERLINE THE
AFRICAN HOLIDAY OF KWANZAA.

AFRICAN HOLIDAY OF KWANZAA.
IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO THINK

IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO THINK
THE SLA HAD SOME SORT OF CLEAR

THE SLA HAD SOME SORT OF CLEAR
AGENDA FOR CHANGE.

AGENDA FOR CHANGE.
THEY BELIEVED IF YOU ENGAGE IN

THEY BELIEVED IF YOU ENGAGE IN
SCALE BUT INTENSE VIOLENT

SCALE BUT INTENSE VIOLENT
STRUGGLE, THAT WOULD SET OFF A

STRUGGLE, THAT WOULD SET OFF A
LARGER REVOLUTION.

LARGER REVOLUTION.
HOW IT WOULD WORK, WHAT THEY

HOW IT WOULD WORK, WHAT THEY
WOULD DO VERY WAS UNCLEAR.

WOULD DO VERY WAS UNCLEAR.
THE SLA IN KILLING MARCUS FOSTER

THE SLA IN KILLING MARCUS FOSTER
ESTABLISHED THAT THEY WERE

ESTABLISHED THAT THEY WERE
COMPLETELY ISOLATED EVEN FROM

COMPLETELY ISOLATED EVEN FROM
POSSIBLE ALLIES IN THEN

POSSIBLE ALLIES IN THEN
COUNTERCULTURE.

COUNTERCULTURE.
BUT THEN THEY GET THREE NEW

BUT THEN THEY GET THREE NEW
RECRUITS.

RECRUITS.
>> WE WERE APPROACHED AND ASKED

>> WE WERE APPROACHED AND ASKED
IF WE WANTED TO MEET THE PEOPLE

IF WE WANTED TO MEET THE PEOPLE
WHO CARRIED OUT THE FOSTER

WHO CARRIED OUT THE FOSTER
ASSASSINATION.

ASSASSINATION.
EMILY AND I AND ANGELA WERE

EMILY AND I AND ANGELA WERE
TAKEN TO A LOCATION WHERE HOODS

TAKEN TO A LOCATION WHERE HOODS
WERE PUT OVER OUR HEAD AND WE

WERE PUT OVER OUR HEAD AND WE
WERE LED INTO A VAN AND

WERE LED INTO A VAN AND
TRANSPORTED UP TO A PLACE WE

TRANSPORTED UP TO A PLACE WE
DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE.

DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE.
WE HAD NO IDEA.

WE HAD NO IDEA.
EMILY AND ANGELA AND I WERE

EMILY AND ANGELA AND I WERE
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS

TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS
GOING ON AND LISTENING TO WHAT

GOING ON AND LISTENING TO WHAT
THEY HAD TO SAY.

THEY HAD TO SAY.
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE

BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE
FOSTER ASSASSINATION, I WAS

FOSTER ASSASSINATION, I WAS
PREPARED TO POSSIBLY NOT BE.

PREPARED TO POSSIBLY NOT BE.
IMPRESSED.

IMPRESSED.
JOE AND RUSS WERE NOT HAPPY.

JOE AND RUSS WERE NOT HAPPY.
THEY WERE TROUBLED BY IT ENOUGH

THEY WERE TROUBLED BY IT ENOUGH
TO TALK TO EMILY AND ME AND

TO TALK TO EMILY AND ME AND
ANGELA ABOUT HOOKING UP WITH

ANGELA ABOUT HOOKING UP WITH
THEM AND SEPARATING OFF INTO A

THEM AND SEPARATING OFF INTO A
SEPARATE CELL.

SEPARATE CELL.
THAT WAS MY INTENTION ALWAYS.

THAT WAS MY INTENTION ALWAYS.
COMBINATION OF IMPATIENCE,

COMBINATION OF IMPATIENCE,
DESPAIR, THE MALAISE OF MY OWN

DESPAIR, THE MALAISE OF MY OWN
EXISTENCE AND THE

EXISTENCE AND THE
INEFFECTIVENESS OF THE LEFT IS

INEFFECTIVENESS OF THE LEFT IS
WHAT CAUSED ME TO MAKE THIS

WHAT CAUSED ME TO MAKE THIS
DECISION.

DECISION.
THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, 1974,

THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, 1974,
WHEN WE FINALLY COME TO THAT

WHEN WE FINALLY COME TO THAT
DECISION, JANUARY 10th, 1974

DECISION, JANUARY 10th, 1974
LITERALLY CHANGED MY WHOLE LIFE.

LITERALLY CHANGED MY WHOLE LIFE.
AND ALL OF MY PLANS.

AND ALL OF MY PLANS.
JOE AND RUSS WERE DRIVE ING IN E

JOE AND RUSS WERE DRIVE ING IN E
VAN BACK TO THE SAFE HOUSE.

VAN BACK TO THE SAFE HOUSE.
THEY WERE RUNNING ERRANDS,

THEY WERE RUNNING ERRANDS,
PICKING UP GUNS THAT HAD BEEN

PICKING UP GUNS THAT HAD BEEN
ALTERED.

ALTERED.
THEY WENT TO A PRINTING UNIT AND

THEY WENT TO A PRINTING UNIT AND
PICKED UP A STACK OF DRAWINGS OF

PICKED UP A STACK OF DRAWINGS OF
THE COBRA.

THE COBRA.
THE LEAFLETS WERE PROPAGANDA

THE LEAFLETS WERE PROPAGANDA
PRESENTING WHAT THE PROGRAM AT

PRESENTING WHAT THE PROGRAM AT
THE SLA WAS.

THE SLA WAS.
IN ROPE HOPES OF RECRUITING

IN ROPE HOPES OF RECRUITING
COMRADES.

COMRADES.
I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY NOTICED

I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY NOTICED
THE COP.

THE COP.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE PULLS THEM

ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE PULLS THEM
OVER OUT OF THE BLUE.

OVER OUT OF THE BLUE.
INSTEAD OF COMING BACK TO THE

INSTEAD OF COMING BACK TO THE
DRIVER'S SIDE, HE GOES TO THE

DRIVER'S SIDE, HE GOES TO THE
PASSENGER'S SIDE AND TELLS JOE

PASSENGER'S SIDE AND TELLS JOE
TO GET OUT OF THE VAN.

TO GET OUT OF THE VAN.
THEY ARE BOTH ARMED.

THEY ARE BOTH ARMED.
AND THEY HAVE ILLEGAL GUNS AND

AND THEY HAVE ILLEGAL GUNS AND
SOME LEAFLETS THAT CONNECT THEM

SOME LEAFLETS THAT CONNECT THEM
TO SOMETHING MUCH MORE SERIOUS.

TO SOMETHING MUCH MORE SERIOUS.
THEY ENDED UP IN A SHOOTOUT AT

THEY ENDED UP IN A SHOOTOUT AT
CLOSE QUARTERS THAT HAD BOTH OF

CLOSE QUARTERS THAT HAD BOTH OF
THEM SO FREAKED OUT THAT THEY

THEM SO FREAKED OUT THAT THEY
MISSED EACH OTHER.

MISSED EACH OTHER.
>> THE LEAFLETS, HOWEVER, WERE A

>> THE LEAFLETS, HOWEVER, WERE A
BIG, BIG PROBLEM.

BIG, BIG PROBLEM.
THAT CONNECTS THEM TO THE FOSTER

THAT CONNECTS THEM TO THE FOSTER
ASSASSINATION.

ASSASSINATION.
>> HE WAS ARRESTED WITH ONE OF

>> HE WAS ARRESTED WITH ONE OF
THE MURDER WEAPONS THAT HE HAD

THE MURDER WEAPONS THAT HE HAD
TO SHOOT FOSTER.

TO SHOOT FOSTER.
>> THEY WERE CHARGED WITH BEING

>> THEY WERE CHARGED WITH BEING
THE ACTUAL SHOOTERS OF MARCUS

THE ACTUAL SHOOTERS OF MARCUS
FOSTER AND THEY WERE NOT.

FOSTER AND THEY WERE NOT.
AND I REALIZED THAT VERY SOON IT

AND I REALIZED THAT VERY SOON IT
WOULD BE DETERMINED THAT THEY

WOULD BE DETERMINED THAT THEY
WERE ASSOCIATED WITH US AND SO

WERE ASSOCIATED WITH US AND SO
IN REALITY, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO

IN REALITY, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE

>>> THEY REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT
THEIR MEMBER TO THE SLA.

THEIR MEMBER TO THE SLA.
>> JOE AND RUSS WERE ARRESTED A

>> JOE AND RUSS WERE ARRESTED A
FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE THE

FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE THE
SAFE HOUSE.

SAFE HOUSE.
THERE WERE SO MANY COPS IN THE

THERE WERE SO MANY COPS IN THE
AREA TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT

AREA TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
WAS GOING ON.

WAS GOING ON.
DEFREEZE AND NANCY HAD TO

DEFREEZE AND NANCY HAD TO
ABANDON THE SAFE HOUSE.

ABANDON THE SAFE HOUSE.
THEY HAD THINGS THAT WERE STORED

THEY HAD THINGS THAT WERE STORED
IN THIS HOUSE AND IT HAD BEEN A

IN THIS HOUSE AND IT HAD BEEN A
SAFE HOUSE FOR A LONG TIME.

SAFE HOUSE FOR A LONG TIME.
THERE WERE BOXES AND BOXES OF

THERE WERE BOXES AND BOXES OF
STUFF.

STUFF.
AFTER THEY SOAKED THE HOUSE IN

AFTER THEY SOAKED THE HOUSE IN
ABOUT 20 GALLONS OF GASOLINE,

ABOUT 20 GALLONS OF GASOLINE,
THEY ATTEMPTED TO TORCH THE

THEY ATTEMPTED TO TORCH THE
HOUSE.

HOUSE.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOMEONE LOWERED

UNFORTUNATELY, SOMEONE LOWERED
THE GARAGE DOOR AND ALL THE

THE GARAGE DOOR AND ALL THE
WINDOWS WERE CLOSED.

WINDOWS WERE CLOSED.
WHEN THEY CLOSED THE GARAGE

WHEN THEY CLOSED THE GARAGE
DOOR, IT CUT OFF THE OXYGEN TO

DOOR, IT CUT OFF THE OXYGEN TO
THE FIRE AND IT IMMEDIATELY WENT

THE FIRE AND IT IMMEDIATELY WENT
OUT AND LEFT EVERYTHING IN

OUT AND LEFT EVERYTHING IN
PERFECT CONDITION FOR THE FED'S

PERFECT CONDITION FOR THE FED'S
AND THE POLICE TO GO THROUGH.

AND THE POLICE TO GO THROUGH.
>> THE HOUSE IN WHICH THEY LIVED

>> THE HOUSE IN WHICH THEY LIVED
POLICE FOUND WEAPONS,

POLICE FOUND WEAPONS,
REVOLUTIONARY LITERATURE LINKING

REVOLUTIONARY LITERATURE LINKING
THEM TO THE SLA.

THEM TO THE SLA.
>> MY ORIGINAL DECISION WAS TO

>> MY ORIGINAL DECISION WAS TO
BE WITH SOME PEOPLE FED RATED

BE WITH SOME PEOPLE FED RATED
WITH THE SLA.

WITH THE SLA.
THERE'S A DISTINCTION IN MY

THERE'S A DISTINCTION IN MY
MIND.

MIND.
TEN DAYS LATER JOE AND RUSS ARE

TEN DAYS LATER JOE AND RUSS ARE
ARRESTED.

ARRESTED.
THAT THROWS EVERYTHING OUT THE

THAT THROWS EVERYTHING OUT THE
WINDOW.

WINDOW.
THE CIRCUMSTANCES MADE OUR

THE CIRCUMSTANCES MADE OUR
CHOICE FOR US.

CHOICE FOR US.
WE WERE GOING UNDERGROUND.

WE WERE GOING UNDERGROUND.
IMMEDIATELY.

IMMEDIATELY.
AT THIS POINT THE SLA CONSISTED

AT THIS POINT THE SLA CONSISTED
OF BILL HARRIS, PEM EMILY HARRIS

OF BILL HARRIS, PEM EMILY HARRIS
AND ANGELA ATWOOD, DONALD

AND ANGELA ATWOOD, DONALD
DEFREEZE, WILLIE WOLF, NANCY AND

DEFREEZE, WILLIE WOLF, NANCY AND
MISS MOON.

MISS MOON.
SHE HAD A LOVER AND SHE ALSO

SHE HAD A LOVER AND SHE ALSO
JOINED THE GROUP.

JOINED THE GROUP.
WHEN THE POLICE START GOING

WHEN THE POLICE START GOING
THROUGH THE CONQUERED HOUSE,

THROUGH THE CONQUERED HOUSE,
THEY START TO FIND THE SLA'S

THEY START TO FIND THE SLA'S
LIST.

LIST.
ON ONE OF THE LISTS IS POSSIBLE

ON ONE OF THE LISTS IS POSSIBLE
KIDNAP VICTIMS.

KIDNAP VICTIMS.
AND THERE IS A YOUNG COLLEGE

AND THERE IS A YOUNG COLLEGE
STUDENT NAMED PATRICIA HEARST

STUDENT NAMED PATRICIA HEARST
BECAUSE THEY HAD READ HER

BECAUSE THEY HAD READ HER
ENGAGEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE

ENGAGEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE
SAN FRANCISCO EXAMINER.

SAN FRANCISCO EXAMINER.
>> THE POLICE NEVER WARNED

>> THE POLICE NEVER WARNED
ANYONE ON THAT LIST.

ANYONE ON THAT LIST.
>> DURING THE MONTHS AND MONTHS

>> DURING THE MONTHS AND MONTHS
BEFORE WE WERE EVER INTRODUCED

BEFORE WE WERE EVER INTRODUCED
TO THE MEMBERS OF THE SLA, THEY

TO THE MEMBERS OF THE SLA, THEY
HAD BEEN ACQUIRING INTELLIGENCE

HAD BEEN ACQUIRING INTELLIGENCE
ON POTENTIAL LOCAL TARGETS,

ON POTENTIAL LOCAL TARGETS,
INCLUDING A COUPLE NEWS ARTICLES

INCLUDING A COUPLE NEWS ARTICLES
ANNOUNCING PATRICIA'S PROPOSAL

ANNOUNCING PATRICIA'S PROPOSAL
TO STEVEN WEED.

TO STEVEN WEED.
ARTICLES DIDN'T SAY WHERE SHE

ARTICLES DIDN'T SAY WHERE SHE
LIVED, BUT THEY GAVE ENOUGH

LIVED, BUT THEY GAVE ENOUGH
INFORMATION TO EASILY FIND IT

INFORMATION TO EASILY FIND IT
OUT.

OUT.
THE DECISION TO KIZ NAP PATRICIA

THE DECISION TO KIZ NAP PATRICIA
HEARST WAS THE DIRECT RESULT OF

HEARST WAS THE DIRECT RESULT OF
JOHN'S ARREST.

JOHN'S ARREST.
WE HAD TO DO IT AS A MATTER OF

WE HAD TO DO IT AS A MATTER OF
PRINCIPLE.

PRINCIPLE.
POSSIBLY WORKED TOWARD AN

POSSIBLY WORKED TOWARD AN
EXCHANGE.

EXCHANGE.
IT ALSO WAS A RESULT OF OUR

IT ALSO WAS A RESULT OF OUR
GENERAL POLITICS AND WHO WE

GENERAL POLITICS AND WHO WE
TARGETED IN OUR MINDS AS BEING

TARGETED IN OUR MINDS AS BEING
ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE.

ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE.
WE HAD ALREADY DETERMINED THAT

WE HAD ALREADY DETERMINED THAT
HEARST WAS A PARTICULAR EASY

HEARST WAS A PARTICULAR EASY
TARGET AND THAT THE PROPAGANDA

TARGET AND THAT THE PROPAGANDA
COULD BE JGENERATED FROM IT WAS

COULD BE JGENERATED FROM IT WAS
PERFECT.

PERFECT.
>> BILL AND EMILY AND ANGELA

>> BILL AND EMILY AND ANGELA
CAME OUT OF THE THEATER PROGRAM

CAME OUT OF THE THEATER PROGRAM
AT INDIANA UNIVERSITY.

AT INDIANA UNIVERSITY.
AND THIS WAS A TIME WHEN THEATER

AND THIS WAS A TIME WHEN THEATER
HAD A VERY POLITICAL COMPONENT.

HAD A VERY POLITICAL COMPONENT.
.

.
IT WAS KNOWN AS GORILLA THEATER.

IT WAS KNOWN AS GORILLA THEATER.
AND THEY BELIEVED IN USING

AND THEY BELIEVED IN USING
THEATER IN USING PROPAGANDA AS A

THEATER IN USING PROPAGANDA AS A
WAY OF EXPOSING THE

WAY OF EXPOSING THE
CONTRADICTIONS IN MODERN SOCIETY

CONTRADICTIONS IN MODERN SOCIETY
AND RECRUITING PEOPLE TO THEIR

AND RECRUITING PEOPLE TO THEIR
CAUSE.

CAUSE.
ONE IDEA THAT BILL AND THE

ONE IDEA THAT BILL AND THE
OTHERS START TO DISCUSS IS

OTHERS START TO DISCUSS IS
INSTEAD OF KILL ING PEOPLE, WHY

INSTEAD OF KILL ING PEOPLE, WHY
DON'T WE KIDNAP SOMEONE.

DON'T WE KIDNAP SOMEONE.
WHY DON'T WE USE SOMEONE AS A

WHY DON'T WE USE SOMEONE AS A
LIVING PAWN TO SYMBOLIZE THE

LIVING PAWN TO SYMBOLIZE THE
NATURE OF OUR REVOLUTIONARY

NATURE OF OUR REVOLUTIONARY
ACTIVITY.

ACTIVITY.
>> EMILY AND I AND ANGELA'S

>> EMILY AND I AND ANGELA'S
INFLUENCE WAS TO DO THINGS MORE

INFLUENCE WAS TO DO THINGS MORE
INSPIRING, THAT WEREN'T AS

INSPIRING, THAT WEREN'T AS
SCARY.

SCARY.
WE HAD TO DO THINGS THAT NOT

WE HAD TO DO THINGS THAT NOT
ONLY INSPIRED PEOPLE BECAUSE

ONLY INSPIRED PEOPLE BECAUSE
THEY WERE IT RADICAL AND

THEY WERE IT RADICAL AND
FORCEFUL, BUT THEY HAD TO BE

FORCEFUL, BUT THEY HAD TO BE
RELEVANT.

RELEVANT.
PENNSYATRICIA HEARST WAS A SIM

PENNSYATRICIA HEARST WAS A SIM
BOTTOM.

BOTTOM.
IC TARGET.

IC TARGET.
HER FAMILY WAS IN CONTROL OF A

HER FAMILY WAS IN CONTROL OF A
MEDIA EMPIRE THAT WE VIEWED AS

MEDIA EMPIRE THAT WE VIEWED AS
AN ARM OF PROP DPAGANDA FOR THE

AN ARM OF PROP DPAGANDA FOR THE
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
SHE WAS MORE OF AN INNOCENT,

SHE WAS MORE OF AN INNOCENT,
WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN.

WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN.
.

.
THE SYMBOLIC CONNECTION TO JOE

THE SYMBOLIC CONNECTION TO JOE
AND RUSS.

AND RUSS.
SHE'S INNOCENT, THEY ARE

SHE'S INNOCENT, THEY ARE
INNOCENT.

INNOCENT.
WE'RE GOING TO TREAT HER LIKE

WE'RE GOING TO TREAT HER LIKE
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TREAT THEM.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TREAT THEM.
IT DIDN'T TAKE US LONG TO DO THE

IT DIDN'T TAKE US LONG TO DO THE
SURVEILLANCE.

SURVEILLANCE.
SHE WAS IN AN IDEAL LOCATION.

SHE WAS IN AN IDEAL LOCATION.
THERE WAS NO SECURITY.

THERE WAS NO SECURITY.
HER FRONT DOOR WAS RIGHT THERE.

HER FRONT DOOR WAS RIGHT THERE.
AND HER APARTMENT WAS BLOCKED

AND HER APARTMENT WAS BLOCKED
FROM THE STREET.

FROM THE STREET.
SO THERE WASN'T DPOING TO BE A

SO THERE WASN'T DPOING TO BE A
LOT OF EASY SIDELINES FOR PEOPLE

LOT OF EASY SIDELINES FOR PEOPLE
TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON OR EVEN

TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON OR EVEN
HEAR.

HEAR.
I THINK IT WAS A WEEKNIGHT THAT

I THINK IT WAS A WEEKNIGHT THAT
WE CHOSE.

WE CHOSE.
EVERYBODY IN THE GROUP WAS

EVERYBODY IN THE GROUP WAS
INVOLVE D IN THE OPERATION.

INVOLVE D IN THE OPERATION.
WILLIE'S DRIVING.

WILLIE'S DRIVING.
THE VW, EMILY'S CAR IS PARKED

THE VW, EMILY'S CAR IS PARKED
THREE SPACES DOWN THE STREET.

THREE SPACES DOWN THE STREET.
CALIFORNIA MILL LA WAS DRIVING

CALIFORNIA MILL LA WAS DRIVING
THE GETAWAY CAR AND DEFREEZE, ME

THE GETAWAY CAR AND DEFREEZE, ME
AND ANGELA HAD TO HANDLE ERG

AND ANGELA HAD TO HANDLE ERG
THAT WENT ON INSIDE THE HOUSE.

THAT WENT ON INSIDE THE HOUSE.
EVERYBODY IS ARMED.

EVERYBODY IS ARMED.
IT WAS DARK.

.
>>> NOBODY SAW US GOING UP

>>> NOBODY SAW US GOING UP
THERE.

THERE.
I KIND OF RECALL BEING ON THE

I KIND OF RECALL BEING ON THE
RIGHT OF THE DOOR AND DEFREEZE

RIGHT OF THE DOOR AND DEFREEZE
WAS ON THE LEFT.

WAS ON THE LEFT.
DEFREEZE AND I BRACKETED THE

DEFREEZE AND I BRACKETED THE
DOOR WHERE THEY COULDN'T SEE US.

DOOR WHERE THEY COULDN'T SEE US.
WE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR AND

WE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR AND
ANGELA ALLUDED TO AN ACCIDENT.

ANGELA ALLUDED TO AN ACCIDENT.
ANGELA POUNCED ON PA TRISHIA AND

ANGELA POUNCED ON PA TRISHIA AND
STARTED TO SECURE HER WITH

STARTED TO SECURE HER WITH
CLOTHESLINE TYPE ROPE.

CLOTHESLINE TYPE ROPE.
I WAS MAKING SURE NOBODY CAME IN

I WAS MAKING SURE NOBODY CAME IN
OR OUT, DEFREEZE BELIEVED THAT

OR OUT, DEFREEZE BELIEVED THAT
THEY WERE SO RICH THEY MUST HAVE

THEY WERE SO RICH THEY MUST HAVE
A SAFE.

A SAFE.
DEFREEZE IS DEMANDING TO KNOW

DEFREEZE IS DEMANDING TO KNOW
WHERE THE SAFE IS.

WHERE THE SAFE IS.
AND THEY'RE FLUMMOXED, THEY

AND THEY'RE FLUMMOXED, THEY
DON'T HAVE A SAFE, YOU KNOW.

DON'T HAVE A SAFE, YOU KNOW.
HE HAS NO IDEA THAT WE'RE

HE HAS NO IDEA THAT WE'RE
KIDNAPPING HIS FIANCE.

KIDNAPPING HIS FIANCE.
HE WAS SCARED SHITLESS.

HE WAS SCARED SHITLESS.
I REMEMBER HIM SAYING, DON'T

I REMEMBER HIM SAYING, DON'T
HARM US, TAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT.

HARM US, TAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT.
I REMEMBER DEFREEZE SAYING, KEEP

I REMEMBER DEFREEZE SAYING, KEEP
YOUR [ BLEEP ] HEAD DOWN.

YOUR [ BLEEP ] HEAD DOWN.
HE WAS LOOKING UP, IT WAS ALMOST

HE WAS LOOKING UP, IT WAS ALMOST
LIKE A TOTAL COMPULSION.

LIKE A TOTAL COMPULSION.
ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS LAY THERE

ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS LAY THERE
AND NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

AND NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
ALL OF A SUDDEN HE JUMPS UP AND

ALL OF A SUDDEN HE JUMPS UP AND
IS HAULING ASS RIGHT BY ME TO

IS HAULING ASS RIGHT BY ME TO
ESCAPE THE FRONT DOOR.

ESCAPE THE FRONT DOOR.
I'M NOT PLANNING ON THIS.

I'M NOT PLANNING ON THIS.
HE'S 6'1", REAL SKINNY GUY.

HE'S 6'1", REAL SKINNY GUY.
I'M 5'6", AND A LITTLE LIGHT IN

I'M 5'6", AND A LITTLE LIGHT IN
THE ASS, SO I GOT TO MAKE SURE

THE ASS, SO I GOT TO MAKE SURE
HE DOESN'T GET OUT.

HE DOESN'T GET OUT.
HE COMES UP SCREAMING, AND HE'S

HE COMES UP SCREAMING, AND HE'S
LOOKING ME DEAD IN THE FACE.

LOOKING ME DEAD IN THE FACE.
AND I JUST COME UP WITH MY

AND I JUST COME UP WITH MY
MACHINE-GUN AND I WHACK HIM IN

MACHINE-GUN AND I WHACK HIM IN
HIS CHIN AND KNOCK HIM BACK.

HIS CHIN AND KNOCK HIM BACK.
I GOT HIM A GOOD ONE AND HE FELL

I GOT HIM A GOOD ONE AND HE FELL
BACK.

BACK.
AND I THEN THEN DEFREEZE KNOCKED

AND I THEN THEN DEFREEZE KNOCKED
HIM OUT SOME MORE.

HIM OUT SOME MORE.
WEED WAS NOT IN A POSITION TO DO

WEED WAS NOT IN A POSITION TO DO
ANYTHING, AND HE ENDED UP

ANYTHING, AND HE ENDED UP
LOOKING BAD ABOUT IT.

LOOKING BAD ABOUT IT.
HE DIDN'T GET HIMSELF SHOT, SO

HE DIDN'T GET HIMSELF SHOT, SO
[ BLEEP ] DEAL.

[ BLEEP ] DEAL.
HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN HIMSELF

HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN HIMSELF
SHOT, BUT HE WOULD BE A DEAD

SHOT, BUT HE WOULD BE A DEAD
WEED INSTEAD OF A LIVE WEED.

WEED INSTEAD OF A LIVE WEED.
HEARST IS TIED UP AND

HEARST IS TIED UP AND
BLINDFOLDED.

BLINDFOLDED.
SHE'S A PETITE PERSON, SO I

SHE'S A PETITE PERSON, SO I
SLING HER UP OVER MY SHOULDER IN

SLING HER UP OVER MY SHOULDER IN
A FIREMAN'S CARRY, AND PROCEED

A FIREMAN'S CARRY, AND PROCEED
TO LEFT THE PARENT.

TO LEFT THE PARENT.
WEED GETS UP AGAIN AND SCREAMS

WEED GETS UP AGAIN AND SCREAMS
OUT OF THE HOUSE.

OUT OF THE HOUSE.
WE'RE GONE BY THAT TIME.

WE'RE GONE BY THAT TIME.
HE THOUGHT HE HAD ESCAPED US.

HE THOUGHT HE HAD ESCAPED US.
COME OUT TO THE COURTYARD, WALKS

COME OUT TO THE COURTYARD, WALKS
TO THE STEPS NEXT TO THE GARAGE,

TO THE STEPS NEXT TO THE GARAGE,
I WAS LOSING CONTROL OF HER ON

I WAS LOSING CONTROL OF HER ON
MY SHOULDER.

MY SHOULDER.
I REACHED DOWN AND I OPENED THE

I REACHED DOWN AND I OPENED THE
LID TO THE TRUNK.

LID TO THE TRUNK.
AS SOON AS I LET GO OF THE TRUNK

AS SOON AS I LET GO OF THE TRUNK
AND TAKE MY LEFT HAND TO FURTHER

AND TAKE MY LEFT HAND TO FURTHER
SECURE HER, THE DAMNED SPRING ON

SECURE HER, THE DAMNED SPRING ON
THE TRUCK IMMEDIATELY SHUTS THE

THE TRUCK IMMEDIATELY SHUTS THE
LITTLE AND LOCKS IT.

LITTLE AND LOCKS IT.
SHE'S TIED UP, SO I SET HER

SHE'S TIED UP, SO I SET HER
DOWN, AND I RUN AROUND TO THE

DOWN, AND I RUN AROUND TO THE
SIDE OF THE CAR, GIVE ME THE

SIDE OF THE CAR, GIVE ME THE
KEY, SO I GET THE KEY AGAIN, I

KEY, SO I GET THE KEY AGAIN, I
COME BACK AROUND, AND SHE'S NOT

COME BACK AROUND, AND SHE'S NOT
EVEN AROUND.

EVEN AROUND.
I UNLOCK THE TRUNK AND I REALIZE

I UNLOCK THE TRUNK AND I REALIZE
I GOT TO NOT DO IT TOO HARD AND

I GOT TO NOT DO IT TOO HARD AND
I CLOSE IT SLIGHTLY AND I START

I CLOSE IT SLIGHTLY AND I START
LOOKING FOR HER, SHE'S NOT

LOOKING FOR HER, SHE'S NOT
THERE.

THERE.
SO I LOOK AROUND, AND SURE

SO I LOOK AROUND, AND SURE
ENOUGH, SHE'S HOBBLED INTO THE

ENOUGH, SHE'S HOBBLED INTO THE
BRUSH.

BRUSH.
I GO AND GRAB HER AND THROW HER

I GO AND GRAB HER AND THROW HER
IN THE TRUNK.

IN THE TRUNK.
I MUST HAVE MADE TOO MUCH

I MUST HAVE MADE TOO MUCH
RACKET, BECAUSE NEIGHBORS CAME

RACKET, BECAUSE NEIGHBORS CAME
OUT OF THEIR APARTMENT.

OUT OF THEIR APARTMENT.
DEFREEZE SHOT A ROUND TO GET

DEFREEZE SHOT A ROUND TO GET
THEM TO BACK OFF.

THEM TO BACK OFF.
NATALEE'S SITTING OFF IN AN

NATALEE'S SITTING OFF IN AN
ANGELA'S CAR, SO SHE GOT OFF A

ANGELA'S CAR, SO SHE GOT OFF A
FEW ROUNDS TOO.

FEW ROUNDS TOO.
WE'RE READY TO BOOGIE, WEED CAN

WE'RE READY TO BOOGIE, WEED CAN
SEE WE'RE READY TO GO, WE COME

SEE WE'RE READY TO GO, WE COME
OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, EMILY COMES

OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, EMILY COMES
UP BEHIND US.

UP BEHIND US.
WE MAKE IT AROUND THE CORNER,

WE MAKE IT AROUND THE CORNER,
ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF NOWHERE,

ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF NOWHERE,
HERE COMES A BERKELEY COP.

HERE COMES A BERKELEY COP.
WHO STOPS THE VW WITH WILLIE AND

WHO STOPS THE VW WITH WILLIE AND
MS. MOON IN IT.

MS. MOON IN IT.
NOW THIS IS NOT EVEN 30 SECONDS

NOW THIS IS NOT EVEN 30 SECONDS
AFTER ALL THIS GUN FIRE.

AFTER ALL THIS GUN FIRE.
I'M THINKING, THIS IS A COP

I'M THINKING, THIS IS A COP
RESPONDING TO THE [ BLEEP ] GUN

RESPONDING TO THE [ BLEEP ] GUN
FIRE.

FIRE.
SO WE'RE ARMED TO THE GILLS, AND

SO WE'RE ARMED TO THE GILLS, AND
HERE WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO GET

HERE WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO GET
IN A SHOOT-OUT WITH A COP, IF

IN A SHOOT-OUT WITH A COP, IF
HE'S DETAINED IN THE LEAD CAR,

HE'S DETAINED IN THE LEAD CAR,
AND HE CAN'T MOVE, WE'RE GOING

AND HE CAN'T MOVE, WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO BLAST THIS GUY.

TO HAVE TO BLAST THIS GUY.
THEN WE SEE THE LIGHTS COME ON

THEN WE SEE THE LIGHTS COME ON
IN THE VW.

IN THE VW.
THE COP STOPPED HIM BECAUSE THEY

THE COP STOPPED HIM BECAUSE THEY
DIDN'T HAVE THEIR LIGHTS ON.

DIDN'T HAVE THEIR LIGHTS ON.
AND HE ROLLED UP HIS WINDOW AND

AND HE ROLLED UP HIS WINDOW AND
MOVED PAST US.

MOVED PAST US.
HE'S GOING BY, I'M LOOKING AT

HE'S GOING BY, I'M LOOKING AT
HIM, HE'S GOING LIKE, I CAN SEE

HIM, HE'S GOING LIKE, I CAN SEE
HIM DO THIS AS HE'S DRIVING BY,

HIM DO THIS AS HE'S DRIVING BY,
SO THE CALL'S COMING IN TO HIM.

SO THE CALL'S COMING IN TO HIM.
HE JUST HAPPENED TO SHOW UP A

HE JUST HAPPENED TO SHOW UP A
LITTLE BIT LATE.

LITTLE BIT LATE.
AND WE GOT AWAY.

AND WE GOT AWAY.
>> THERE'S BEEN A BIG KIDNAPPING

>> THERE'S BEEN A BIG KIDNAPPING
ON THE WEST COAST.

ON THE WEST COAST.
THE VICTIM IS PATRICIA HEARST.

THE VICTIM IS PATRICIA HEARST.
>> MOM, DAD, I'M OKAY.

>> MOM, DAD, I'M OKAY.
DO WHAT THEY SAY, DAD, AND JUST

DO WHAT THEY SAY, DAD, AND JUST
DO IT QUICKLY.

DO IT QUICKLY.
>> JUST FLAT OUT BARKING MAD.

>> JUST FLAT OUT BARKING MAD.
>> SHE DESPERATELY DID NOT WANT

>> SHE DESPERATELY DID NOT WANT
TO GO HOME.

TO GO HOME.
WE HAD TO PROVE THAT.

WE HAD TO PROVE THAT.
WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK THAT

WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK THAT
PATRICIA HEARST WOULD BE ROBBING

PATRICIA HEARST WOULD BE ROBBING
A BANK AS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT?

A BANK AS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT?
I THINK SHE WAS SPECTACULAR.

I THINK SHE WAS SPECTACULAR.
>> SHE'S THE VICTIM OF THOUGHT

>> SHE'S THE VICTIM OF THOUGHT
CONTROL.

CONTROL.
>> 56 DAYS IN THE CLOSET TURNED

>> 56 DAYS IN THE CLOSET TURNED
HER INTO AN URBAN GUERRILLA.

HER INTO AN URBAN GUERRILLA.
>> THE POLICE WANTED TO BE THE

>> THE POLICE WANTED TO BE THE
ONES THAT CAUGHT US AND KILLED

ONES THAT CAUGHT US AND KILLED
US.

US.
>> IT IS THE LONGEST MOST

>> IT IS THE LONGEST MOST
INTENSE SHOOT-OUT IN THE CITY'S

INTENSE SHOOT-OUT IN THE CITY'S
HISTORY.

HISTORY.
>> THERE'S A 20% CHANCE SHE'S

>> THERE'S A 20% CHANCE SHE'S
GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS.

GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS.
>> PATTY HAD TRAUMATICALLY

>> PATTY HAD TRAUMATICALLY
CHANGED SOMETHING, SOMETHING HAD

CHANGED SOMETHING, SOMETHING HAD
SNAPPED.

SNAPPED.
>> SHE'S NOT A STEREOTYPICAL

>> SHE'S NOT A STEREOTYPICAL
HOLLYWOOD VICTIM.