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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,775 --> 00:00:19,053 Hey, what's up, guys? 2 00:00:19,088 --> 00:00:20,847 Tyler here with Secure Team. 3 00:00:22,228 --> 00:00:25,714 Something has been discovered down on the moon. 4 00:03:38,632 --> 00:03:41,944 So throughout history, UFOs have been sighted 5 00:03:41,979 --> 00:03:45,639 by astronauts, astronomers and civilians 6 00:03:45,673 --> 00:03:48,848 in outer space, ss well as here on the ground. 7 00:03:48,883 --> 00:03:51,990 What about all the sightings that have occurred on land? 8 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:16,670 I think there has always been this social stigma that's been attached 9 00:04:16,704 --> 00:04:20,569 to people who have been able to record UFOs 10 00:04:20,605 --> 00:04:24,367 and actually believe in what they have recorded 11 00:04:24,401 --> 00:04:27,612 as something potentially unnatural or not of this earth. 12 00:04:30,718 --> 00:04:33,894 Tell me about the first time you noticed 13 00:04:33,927 --> 00:04:36,689 something strange in the sky above Dunedoo. 14 00:04:36,723 --> 00:04:41,557 Well, I came out here in like 2012, in August 15 00:04:41,591 --> 00:04:44,042 and pretty much the second night that I was staying here. 16 00:04:44,076 --> 00:04:46,043 I noticed a strange ball of light 17 00:04:46,077 --> 00:04:49,668 moving across the house in the backyard, on the property behind us 18 00:04:49,702 --> 00:04:52,843 and it was moving very slow over the rooftops 19 00:04:52,877 --> 00:04:55,028 and it was actually illuminating the rooftops underneath it 20 00:04:55,052 --> 00:04:56,052 as it was moving. 21 00:05:01,024 --> 00:05:04,613 This thing is phenomenal. It's just highly unusual. 22 00:05:04,649 --> 00:05:07,478 And this was around 11:00 p.m. in the evening. 23 00:05:07,514 --> 00:05:11,000 And, um, in this town here, there's not many people are up at night. 24 00:05:11,033 --> 00:05:12,759 There's not many street lights. 25 00:05:12,795 --> 00:05:18,040 The town, um, it prides itself on being the astronomy capital of Australia 26 00:05:18,076 --> 00:05:22,011 because of the fact they have not much light pollution like in the city. 27 00:05:22,045 --> 00:05:25,946 So, yeah, the second night I was here, I saw a very strange, 28 00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:29,362 large, spherical ball, which is half the size of the house 29 00:05:29,398 --> 00:05:31,502 hovering above the house, then heading north. 30 00:05:31,538 --> 00:05:33,367 The direction north was very unusual. 31 00:05:33,401 --> 00:05:36,819 So, um, and it just continued since then, 32 00:05:36,853 --> 00:05:39,579 um, unabated, the sightings, 33 00:05:39,615 --> 00:05:42,031 It's been a lot of people have seen it now, 34 00:05:42,064 --> 00:05:46,206 you know, people have come up here and seen it from all around Australia 35 00:05:46,242 --> 00:05:48,762 and, um, it's just getting bigger and bigger in number. 36 00:05:48,795 --> 00:05:52,178 Um, the actual eye witnesses to what's going on. 37 00:05:52,213 --> 00:05:57,218 How long do you think it's gonna take till people accept these things are real? 38 00:05:57,252 --> 00:05:59,473 How do you mean? Accept at what level the population becomes, 39 00:05:59,497 --> 00:06:03,223 when it becomes a sociological... Sociologically, real? 40 00:06:03,846 --> 00:06:05,225 I don't know. 41 00:06:05,261 --> 00:06:07,031 When does it reach a level like that to what happened in Australia? 42 00:06:07,055 --> 00:06:09,678 That's what really scares me, because what we're interested in 43 00:06:09,713 --> 00:06:11,439 is technically not normal. 44 00:06:11,473 --> 00:06:15,788 As Damien told you, he almost attracted a psychiatric label 45 00:06:15,822 --> 00:06:17,446 for filming what he's seeing, 46 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,240 so they're implying it was a hallucination. But he's filming it. 47 00:06:20,276 --> 00:06:22,485 To me, you're attracting a decent case of medication 48 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:24,867 if you think I can film my hallucination. 49 00:06:24,901 --> 00:06:27,040 But a doctor can suggest that with a straight face. 50 00:06:27,076 --> 00:06:28,766 That to me is really scary. 51 00:06:28,802 --> 00:06:30,528 Because this, this is aberrant. 52 00:06:30,562 --> 00:06:33,081 I never believed that we're on the fringe of society. 53 00:06:33,115 --> 00:06:34,497 This is an outlier belief system. 54 00:06:34,531 --> 00:06:36,465 This is insane what we're talking about. 55 00:06:36,499 --> 00:06:38,500 But tell me what is sane? 56 00:06:38,536 --> 00:06:42,367 Well sane is, being a robot taking your brain out 57 00:06:42,401 --> 00:06:43,689 and just going to work and doing it 58 00:06:43,713 --> 00:06:45,370 and never thinking outside the box. 59 00:06:45,404 --> 00:06:47,716 That's how they classify sanity. 60 00:06:47,752 --> 00:06:48,959 Never, actually... 61 00:06:48,994 --> 00:06:50,764 But none of us are running around like headless chooks. 62 00:06:50,788 --> 00:06:53,343 We're all holding down jobs and mortgages and blah, blah. 63 00:06:53,377 --> 00:06:55,552 So we're not completely nuts. 64 00:06:55,586 --> 00:06:59,072 But our belief system is not nutty enough that you look up into the sky 65 00:06:59,108 --> 00:07:01,040 and Damien's made it even more dangerous 66 00:07:01,074 --> 00:07:03,906 because he's filming something that's not supposed to exist. 67 00:07:03,939 --> 00:07:09,187 While it's been widely discussed that UFOs are of an alien nature, 68 00:07:09,221 --> 00:07:14,572 we're starting to realize that many of these may also be man-made. 69 00:07:22,302 --> 00:07:23,856 What is 70 00:07:23,891 --> 00:07:28,481 Secret Space theory, and what are your findings on the topic? 71 00:07:28,516 --> 00:07:32,865 When you talk about secret space theories or secret space ideas, 72 00:07:32,899 --> 00:07:36,627 you're really talking about two different things here and they're both valuable. 73 00:07:36,663 --> 00:07:38,596 They're both important. 74 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:42,771 But we're really talking about conventional secret space operations 75 00:07:42,807 --> 00:07:45,706 and unconventional secret space operations. 76 00:07:45,740 --> 00:07:47,432 So let's... The conventional first 77 00:07:48,432 --> 00:07:50,090 Look at it from a military point of view 78 00:07:50,124 --> 00:07:52,610 and that of, particularly, of the United States military, 79 00:07:52,644 --> 00:07:57,235 which looks at space as a necessary Theater of Operation, 80 00:07:57,269 --> 00:08:01,204 a necessary platform that must be dominated by them. 81 00:08:01,238 --> 00:08:03,793 If they're going to dominate any theaters of operation 82 00:08:03,827 --> 00:08:08,245 on the surface of Earth, they must control space. 83 00:08:08,279 --> 00:08:10,074 It's absolutely essential. 84 00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:12,768 All those smart bombs, smart missiles, 85 00:08:12,802 --> 00:08:15,495 weapons systems that are highly technological 86 00:08:15,528 --> 00:08:18,807 rely on satellite information being fed to them, 87 00:08:18,843 --> 00:08:21,016 providing them with all kinds of data, 88 00:08:21,052 --> 00:08:24,365 maps and telemetry information, and so forth. 89 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:27,230 And so, you must have dominance in space 90 00:08:27,264 --> 00:08:30,302 if you're gonna have dominance on the surface of this planet. 91 00:08:30,336 --> 00:08:34,686 Every military power on this globe knows this fact. 92 00:08:34,721 --> 00:08:39,759 I think it's important to have serious historians like Richard Dolan, 93 00:08:39,794 --> 00:08:44,557 who can really look into the UFO phenomenon and the history behind it, 94 00:08:44,592 --> 00:08:48,113 and we're going to look into some of that history today, 95 00:08:48,148 --> 00:08:54,222 The YB-49 nine was the first vector shaped, jet-engine-equipped aircraft 96 00:08:54,256 --> 00:08:58,365 to successfully fly our airspace in 1947. 97 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:04,232 YB-49, a huge 100-ton dreadnought packs 32,000 horsepower 98 00:09:04,267 --> 00:09:05,716 in its eight jet engines. 99 00:09:05,751 --> 00:09:08,168 At the controls during the initial flight, 100 00:09:08,201 --> 00:09:12,274 Our veteran test pilot, Max Stanley, center, and a crew of two, 101 00:09:12,309 --> 00:09:14,243 theirs is a big job. 102 00:09:14,277 --> 00:09:17,764 And like a giant boomerang, the mammoth craft picks up speed. 103 00:09:23,631 --> 00:09:25,806 Trailing streams of smoke from its jets, 104 00:09:25,841 --> 00:09:28,291 Uncle Sam's latest ace of the Atom Age 105 00:09:28,326 --> 00:09:30,948 passes its test with flying colors. 106 00:09:36,505 --> 00:09:38,163 The YB-49. 107 00:09:39,475 --> 00:09:42,720 It was a successor to the YB-35 108 00:09:42,754 --> 00:09:45,722 which used propellers to navigate the skies 109 00:09:45,756 --> 00:09:48,966 and a precursor to the B2 stealth bomber. 110 00:09:51,831 --> 00:09:55,870 The Convair Kingfish reconnaissance aircraft design 111 00:09:55,904 --> 00:09:59,046 was the ultimate result of a series of proposals 112 00:09:59,081 --> 00:10:03,153 designed as a replacement for the Lockheed U2. 113 00:10:03,187 --> 00:10:06,535 The Kingfish competed with the Lockheed A12 114 00:10:06,571 --> 00:10:09,022 for the Project Oxcart mission 115 00:10:09,056 --> 00:10:12,542 and lost to that design in 1959. 116 00:10:12,576 --> 00:10:15,924 The Lockheed Have Blue was the code name 117 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,722 for Lockheed's proof-of-concept demonstrator for a stealth bomber. 118 00:10:20,758 --> 00:10:25,554 Have Blue was designed by Lockheed's Skunk Works division 119 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:28,524 and tested at Groom Lake, Nevada. 120 00:10:28,557 --> 00:10:32,665 The Have Blue was the first fixed-wing aircraft 121 00:10:32,701 --> 00:10:36,255 whose external shape was defined by radar engineering 122 00:10:36,289 --> 00:10:39,086 rather than by aerospace engineering. 123 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,126 The aircraft's faceted shape was designed to deflect electromagnetic waves 124 00:10:45,161 --> 00:10:49,269 in directions other than that of the originating radar emitter, 125 00:10:49,302 --> 00:10:52,513 greatly reducing its radar cross-section, 126 00:10:52,548 --> 00:10:54,999 keeping it secret in space, 127 00:10:55,033 --> 00:10:58,692 a precursor design to the F-117. 128 00:10:58,726 --> 00:11:03,663 Over the years, as the United States' technological progress advanced 129 00:11:03,697 --> 00:11:06,389 so, too, did their military arsenal. 130 00:11:06,423 --> 00:11:10,841 This arsenal has been tested in the field of battle, like the Vietnam War, 131 00:11:10,876 --> 00:11:12,740 and, of course, in the Middle East, 132 00:11:12,774 --> 00:11:15,019 from the 80s up until recently. 133 00:11:36,903 --> 00:11:39,836 The skies over Baghdad have been illuminated. 134 00:12:25,503 --> 00:12:28,539 Not every citizen of the public is exposed 135 00:12:28,575 --> 00:12:31,716 to the modernization of our military craft. 136 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:35,236 But there are those who have worked inside our military 137 00:12:35,270 --> 00:12:36,962 who have watched firsthand 138 00:12:36,996 --> 00:12:42,485 the development of incredible secret aerospace technologies evolve over time. 139 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:48,456 One such individual who has first-hand witnessed the feats of our own technology 140 00:12:48,490 --> 00:12:51,597 is a man by the name of Jim Goodall, 141 00:12:51,631 --> 00:12:55,774 former Air Force man, spooky airplane researcher 142 00:12:55,808 --> 00:13:01,470 and friend of former director of Lockheed Skunk Works Ben Rich. 143 00:13:01,504 --> 00:13:04,714 Jim is an extremely experienced individual 144 00:13:04,749 --> 00:13:08,373 when it comes to the hidden history of secret aircraft. 145 00:13:08,408 --> 00:13:12,792 He blew the lid on Area 51, and as a photographer, 146 00:13:12,826 --> 00:13:16,380 he's uncovered the hidden history of test aircraft 147 00:13:16,416 --> 00:13:18,279 before they were public knowledge. 148 00:13:20,282 --> 00:13:23,802 This is the shape of the F-117. 149 00:13:24,527 --> 00:13:26,426 It's an arrowhead. 150 00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:28,876 Well, if it's being lit up for whatever, 151 00:13:30,292 --> 00:13:35,469 and this was given to me by F-117 crew chief. 152 00:13:35,504 --> 00:13:41,923 This is the actual RAM, Radar Absorbant Material, used on the F-117. 153 00:13:41,959 --> 00:13:44,443 I said, "Can I go to jail for that?" 154 00:13:44,477 --> 00:13:46,826 They said, "No, no, the technology has changed so much." 155 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:49,068 This is 40 years old. 156 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:51,933 It's old technology, 157 00:13:51,969 --> 00:13:53,878 And that's the other thing you got to take in consideration 158 00:13:53,902 --> 00:13:57,456 when you see programs that are being declassified 159 00:13:57,490 --> 00:13:58,837 or talked about. 160 00:13:58,871 --> 00:14:04,119 We're talking about stuff that may have flown 161 00:14:04,153 --> 00:14:06,604 and program came to an end, 162 00:14:06,638 --> 00:14:09,778 all the tooling destroyed 20 or 30 years ago, 163 00:14:09,813 --> 00:14:12,921 and we're just finding out about it today. 164 00:14:12,955 --> 00:14:16,407 I'm a historian. That's probably why I do what I do. 165 00:14:16,441 --> 00:14:21,826 I'm a historian, I'm an Aviation historian. I'm a military historian. 166 00:14:21,860 --> 00:14:24,621 And I figure, as an American taxpayer, 167 00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:29,246 you're spending my money on our defense, which is the proper thing to do. 168 00:14:31,731 --> 00:14:33,216 But I should have... 169 00:14:33,250 --> 00:14:38,360 But if I ask a question of my government, I expect an honest answer. 170 00:14:38,394 --> 00:14:40,533 I don't expect to get a run around. 171 00:14:40,568 --> 00:14:43,399 If it's not classified 172 00:14:43,433 --> 00:14:47,403 or if the part I'm asking about is not classified, 173 00:14:47,437 --> 00:14:51,200 then damn it, I expect an answer. I don't expect a runaround. 174 00:14:51,235 --> 00:14:53,927 I worked on the A-12 early in the program, 175 00:14:53,961 --> 00:14:56,999 which is the predecessor to the SR-71. 176 00:14:57,033 --> 00:15:01,210 It's the single-place CIA-funded-and-operated Blackbird. 177 00:15:01,245 --> 00:15:04,799 They were flight-tested and based out of Area 51, 178 00:15:05,456 --> 00:15:07,009 but they were operationally... 179 00:15:07,043 --> 00:15:12,325 They flew out of Kadena Air Base, Okinawa. 180 00:15:12,359 --> 00:15:14,913 That's the same place the SR-71s operated 181 00:15:14,947 --> 00:15:18,469 after the A-12s were replaced by the SR. 182 00:15:18,503 --> 00:15:20,643 I worked in the assets, but primarily telemetry. 183 00:15:21,644 --> 00:15:24,923 So that's the primary reason I was at Edwards, 184 00:15:24,957 --> 00:15:28,754 and one of the reasons I flew into Area 51 185 00:15:28,788 --> 00:15:31,860 is to install some additional telemetry equipment. 186 00:15:31,895 --> 00:15:34,657 The stuff I was working on wasn't classified. 187 00:15:34,692 --> 00:15:38,453 The programs that we're monitoring were. 188 00:15:38,489 --> 00:15:41,181 There would be flight testing for the XB-70 189 00:15:41,216 --> 00:15:44,288 the C-141 Starlifter and, of course, the Blackbird. 190 00:15:44,322 --> 00:15:50,879 And on May 30, 1967, Mele Vojvodich flew the first A-12 191 00:15:50,914 --> 00:15:52,881 from Area 51 192 00:15:52,917 --> 00:15:58,095 air-refueled twice, and flew from Area 51 in central Nevada 193 00:15:58,129 --> 00:16:02,581 to Kadena, Okinawa, in 5 hours and 29 minutes. 194 00:16:04,066 --> 00:16:06,009 If you're going to take a commercial airliner today, 195 00:16:06,033 --> 00:16:08,967 it'll take you 17 or 18 hours for that same flight. 196 00:16:10,245 --> 00:16:13,937 Uh, Mele was the first guy to fly an operational mission, 197 00:16:15,490 --> 00:16:19,736 and that was on May 30, 1967. 198 00:16:19,770 --> 00:16:21,255 When was the last flight? 199 00:16:23,326 --> 00:16:27,226 The last flight was on the June 21, 1968, 200 00:16:27,261 --> 00:16:31,713 and it wasn't until the fall or early winter of 1988, 201 00:16:32,438 --> 00:16:35,165 20 years after it was retired, 202 00:16:35,201 --> 00:16:38,168 that they admitted to the existence 203 00:16:38,203 --> 00:16:41,379 of the single-place CIA version of the Blackbird 204 00:16:41,413 --> 00:16:43,380 referred to as the A-12. 205 00:16:43,415 --> 00:16:48,317 So if we go back to the early history of aeronautics 206 00:16:48,351 --> 00:16:53,426 and we look at some of the craft that have been created and built 207 00:16:53,460 --> 00:16:57,740 by the military-industrial contractors over the years, 208 00:16:57,774 --> 00:17:01,985 many of them have taken on the shape of a boomerang, 209 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:05,195 a V, or dare I say, a triangle. 210 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:08,268 You're going to have a militarization of space, 211 00:17:08,303 --> 00:17:10,615 and you're absolutely going to have 212 00:17:10,650 --> 00:17:15,964 a kind of natural escalation of weapons, like an arms race in space. 213 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,864 And that's going to require 214 00:17:17,897 --> 00:17:23,041 a significant classified component of that militarized space. 215 00:17:23,076 --> 00:17:26,286 And so that's, that is a secret space program. 216 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,048 And there is no argument against this whatsoever. 217 00:17:29,082 --> 00:17:30,911 Like everyone knows that this is the case. 218 00:17:30,945 --> 00:17:33,535 We got the NRO, the National Reconnaissance Office, 219 00:17:33,568 --> 00:17:36,400 for example, which has been operational since 1960, 220 00:17:36,433 --> 00:17:41,059 and they have had a significant, uh, presence in space. 221 00:17:41,094 --> 00:17:42,819 It's almost completely... 222 00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:45,650 Not almost, is completely classified. 223 00:17:45,684 --> 00:17:50,240 We have essentially zero, uh, real, tangible information 224 00:17:50,276 --> 00:17:51,322 about what the NRO is doing, 225 00:17:51,346 --> 00:17:54,901 or the most bare-bones stuff, that's all. 226 00:17:54,934 --> 00:17:58,663 And, you know, you've got the Navy, the Air Force, all of which, both of which 227 00:17:58,698 --> 00:18:05,980 have classified space elements, and now with a unified space force 228 00:18:06,015 --> 00:18:08,017 that's all going to be reorganized and... 229 00:18:08,051 --> 00:18:11,019 But you're gonna have massive, classified components to all of this. 230 00:18:11,055 --> 00:18:13,194 So that's a conventional way 231 00:18:13,230 --> 00:18:15,369 to look at a secret space program. 232 00:18:15,403 --> 00:18:18,442 And that will incorporate, uh, you know, 233 00:18:18,476 --> 00:18:22,342 probably some very interesting technology in the satellites 234 00:18:22,376 --> 00:18:25,104 in terms of optics, maybe in terms of even 235 00:18:25,137 --> 00:18:28,141 their ability to maintain orbit for long periods of time. 236 00:18:28,175 --> 00:18:32,525 Uh, you know, I mean, you've got the X-37B 237 00:18:32,558 --> 00:18:36,563 which is kind of a militarized version of the space shuttle, 238 00:18:36,597 --> 00:18:39,842 and all of those missions are highly classified. 239 00:18:39,876 --> 00:18:45,710 We know a little bit about what the X-37B does, is capable of, 240 00:18:45,744 --> 00:18:48,403 but we don't really know what the missions are. 241 00:18:48,436 --> 00:18:49,886 We're not really informed of that. 242 00:18:49,921 --> 00:18:52,096 So there's a lot of elements of a secret space program 243 00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:55,410 that are no great shakes, at least from... 244 00:18:55,443 --> 00:18:58,516 They're not going to transform our world view. 245 00:18:58,550 --> 00:19:02,555 But then there's the other element of the secret space program 246 00:19:02,588 --> 00:19:05,281 that people often really want to know about it, 247 00:19:05,316 --> 00:19:10,251 which involves, let us say, unconventional 248 00:19:10,287 --> 00:19:15,740 and unacknowledged activities and science 249 00:19:15,775 --> 00:19:19,192 that are not supposed to exist. 250 00:19:19,227 --> 00:19:22,402 And that involved what we would call the UFOs, all right. 251 00:19:22,436 --> 00:19:26,095 So that's where it gets a little more interesting, perhaps. 252 00:19:37,278 --> 00:19:39,557 A dear friend just passed away. 253 00:19:39,592 --> 00:19:44,769 He is a retired SR-71 pilot named Dave Fruehauf. 254 00:19:45,701 --> 00:19:49,808 And Dave retired as a Lieutenant-Colonel. 255 00:19:49,843 --> 00:19:54,469 I'm talking with Dave and I said, "Dave, you believe in UFOs?" 256 00:19:54,502 --> 00:19:57,989 He said, "Absolutely, positively, they do exist." 257 00:19:58,023 --> 00:20:02,304 He said. "I was flying a night training mission in an SR-71" 258 00:20:02,993 --> 00:20:05,238 "out of Kadena, Okinawa." 259 00:20:05,272 --> 00:20:07,032 "I was in the far Western Pacific." 260 00:20:07,067 --> 00:20:12,002 "We're at 78,000 feet, 77,000 feet," 261 00:20:12,038 --> 00:20:13,349 "at Mach 2.7." 262 00:20:13,971 --> 00:20:14,971 "We're going straight." 263 00:20:15,696 --> 00:20:17,871 It's 11 o'clock at night 264 00:20:17,905 --> 00:20:22,324 "and we're sort of heading our way back towards Kadena." 265 00:20:23,429 --> 00:20:27,950 "It was a three-quarter moon, and all of a sudden," 266 00:20:27,984 --> 00:20:31,851 uh, Dave said he got a glint of something metallic 267 00:20:31,884 --> 00:20:35,578 five or six miles off to his right 268 00:20:35,613 --> 00:20:38,857 and maybe 4,000 or 5,000 feet above him. 269 00:20:38,892 --> 00:20:43,724 So he contacts Kadena on secure voice, said, 270 00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:45,519 "Do we have another bird up?" 271 00:20:45,554 --> 00:20:48,730 They said, "You'd know if we did, you were at the briefing. 272 00:20:48,763 --> 00:20:50,282 "No, you're the only one up there." 273 00:20:50,317 --> 00:20:52,941 He said "No, I'm not. I'm gonna go take a closer look." 274 00:20:52,974 --> 00:20:55,150 His back-seater said. "Hey, Dave, we have company." 275 00:20:55,183 --> 00:20:57,116 He said, "Yeah, I'm gonna see who it is." 276 00:20:57,152 --> 00:20:59,740 So he moved, pushed, the advances, the throttles 277 00:20:59,775 --> 00:21:02,191 about a ten-degree bank and he's climbing, 278 00:21:02,226 --> 00:21:04,642 and he's heading towards this object. 279 00:21:04,676 --> 00:21:07,126 He's still getting glints off of the edges. 280 00:21:07,162 --> 00:21:10,647 It's not circular shaped. It has sharp edges, 281 00:21:10,682 --> 00:21:14,134 and he's getting glints, and it's metallic, or it's shining. 282 00:21:14,169 --> 00:21:19,587 He figured when he was about a mile or two away from this object, 283 00:21:19,623 --> 00:21:23,108 and it's still a couple of thousand feet below it, 284 00:21:23,143 --> 00:21:26,560 it accelerated at about a 30-degree angle of attack 285 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:28,942 and left him in the dust. 286 00:21:28,977 --> 00:21:32,843 About 85,000 feet to 180,000 feet. 287 00:21:33,567 --> 00:21:35,294 I mean, boom. 288 00:21:35,327 --> 00:21:38,951 I mean, it was like he was heading in the opposite direction, 289 00:21:38,987 --> 00:21:42,300 He figured it's going at least 8,000-10,000 miles an hour. 290 00:21:43,646 --> 00:21:45,269 In 1978, 291 00:21:46,719 --> 00:21:51,205 cosmonaut Pavel Popovich claimed he saw a sparkling white object 292 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,001 in the shape of an equilateral triangle 293 00:21:54,036 --> 00:21:56,798 flying at about 10,000 meters above Earth. 294 00:22:01,458 --> 00:22:05,151 I think it's amazing the way that NASA 295 00:22:05,184 --> 00:22:08,085 and other aeronautics industries 296 00:22:08,118 --> 00:22:13,711 have been able to hide this strange alien or UFO phenomenon 297 00:22:13,746 --> 00:22:16,644 from the general public for so many years. 298 00:22:25,930 --> 00:22:27,967 And on that side of it, 299 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,211 what I would say is that, you know, we don't have... 300 00:22:32,247 --> 00:22:34,559 We don't have firm, authenticated proof. 301 00:22:34,594 --> 00:22:38,942 We don't have an admission from the government, from the military 302 00:22:38,978 --> 00:22:41,152 from any of those people, that says, 303 00:22:41,186 --> 00:22:42,705 "Yes, there are UFOs out there" 304 00:22:42,740 --> 00:22:46,882 or, "We have constructed a element of our space program" 305 00:22:46,916 --> 00:22:50,230 "to deal with UFOs that are out there." 306 00:22:50,265 --> 00:22:54,442 However, what we can say is that there are 307 00:22:54,476 --> 00:22:59,791 enough pieces of testimony and evidence and anomalies 308 00:22:59,826 --> 00:23:02,450 that have been recorded in Earth orbit, 309 00:23:03,415 --> 00:23:06,315 that, or beyond, frankly, 310 00:23:06,349 --> 00:23:10,872 that strongly indicate to a rational observer, 311 00:23:10,905 --> 00:23:15,497 that's something really odd is going on out there. 312 00:23:15,531 --> 00:23:19,294 That is not supposed to be happening 313 00:23:19,327 --> 00:23:23,608 by any standard of understanding or science that we have. 314 00:23:23,643 --> 00:23:27,267 So that's, that's where you start getting into. 315 00:23:27,301 --> 00:23:31,339 Is there a secret space program that is connected with the UFO phenomenon? 316 00:23:31,375 --> 00:23:35,654 And I personally think that the answer to that is there absolutely is. 317 00:23:35,690 --> 00:23:37,692 And the real question is... 318 00:23:39,106 --> 00:23:43,249 How far does it go? What are the real contours and parameters 319 00:23:43,282 --> 00:23:49,255 of this presumably very secret, classified space program? 320 00:23:49,288 --> 00:23:52,948 And that's where, you know... I don't know anyone who actually knows 321 00:23:52,982 --> 00:23:55,295 the full dimensions of how far it goes. 322 00:23:55,329 --> 00:23:58,298 In other words, do we have black triangles 323 00:23:58,333 --> 00:24:02,405 that can go beyond Earth orbit to a nearby planet 324 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:03,520 or the moon or something like that? 325 00:24:03,545 --> 00:24:05,108 I mean, there are people who make this claim. 326 00:24:05,133 --> 00:24:09,171 Or do we have replicated alien tech? 327 00:24:09,205 --> 00:24:13,659 Um, in terms of, you know, like, the legendary ARV. 328 00:24:13,692 --> 00:24:15,522 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle. 329 00:24:15,557 --> 00:24:17,663 Did we actually make that? And does that go? 330 00:24:17,696 --> 00:24:19,364 Has that gone throughout the solar system? 331 00:24:19,387 --> 00:24:21,666 We don't, we don't have proof of these things, 332 00:24:21,701 --> 00:24:23,496 but we have our stories. 333 00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:26,049 Some of them are pretty darn interesting, 334 00:24:26,085 --> 00:24:29,191 and some of them are maybe believable 335 00:24:29,226 --> 00:24:31,228 to those of us who have looked into it. 336 00:24:31,261 --> 00:24:37,923 But we're in an area of what I would say, making informed speculation 337 00:24:37,959 --> 00:24:41,030 based on genuine knowledge that we have. 338 00:24:41,065 --> 00:24:42,998 But we don't have the full picture. 339 00:24:43,032 --> 00:24:47,692 So we get some information and at least at this point 340 00:24:47,727 --> 00:24:50,489 makes some inferences, and maybe put together 341 00:24:50,522 --> 00:24:53,145 some interesting hypotheses about what's going on. 342 00:25:26,007 --> 00:25:29,113 As you watch, notice all of the different signs 343 00:25:29,147 --> 00:25:32,669 of triangle or TR-3B like objects 344 00:25:32,702 --> 00:25:36,050 in all of the mission patches and NASA imagery. 345 00:25:51,272 --> 00:25:54,932 This is NASA's official seal, which was also designed 346 00:25:54,967 --> 00:25:59,453 back in the late 1950s at the same time as the meatball insignia. 347 00:27:37,172 --> 00:27:39,105 German Aerospace... Turkey... 348 00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:13,968 Are you starting to see the pattern? 349 00:28:47,346 --> 00:28:50,244 The official patch for Russia's old space station. 350 00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:54,973 This is the official insignia for NASA's famed Apollo lunar landing program. 351 00:29:01,601 --> 00:29:06,398 For example, the official insignia of NASA's STS space shuttle program 352 00:29:06,433 --> 00:29:11,369 is comprised of more than one representation of subtle vector symbology. 353 00:31:42,244 --> 00:31:45,799 Notice the strange and mysterious vector-shaped UFO 354 00:31:45,834 --> 00:31:47,801 reflected in the astronaut's visor. 355 00:32:03,438 --> 00:32:07,132 We leave you much that is undone. 356 00:32:09,065 --> 00:32:11,204 There are great ideas undiscovered. 357 00:32:12,446 --> 00:32:17,279 Breakthroughs available to those who can remove 358 00:32:17,314 --> 00:32:19,867 one of truths protective layers. 359 00:32:21,422 --> 00:32:22,941 My name is Alara. 360 00:32:22,974 --> 00:32:24,977 Um, I kind of woke up to the ET presence 361 00:32:25,011 --> 00:32:29,291 and I would say, got activated in late 2017 362 00:32:29,326 --> 00:32:32,605 when I had a close encounter with a spacecraft 363 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,333 that was about fifty feet in front of me, that de-cloaked in front of me. 364 00:32:36,367 --> 00:32:42,166 After that happened to me, I started going to UFO events and conferences and so forth, 365 00:32:42,201 --> 00:32:43,961 trying to seek out other experiencers 366 00:32:43,996 --> 00:32:46,447 and begin to get some understanding of what happened to me 367 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,655 and what the truth was about this planet, 368 00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:49,759 what was going on here. 369 00:32:50,415 --> 00:32:53,177 So in 2019, 370 00:32:53,211 --> 00:32:56,732 I went to Contact in the Desert in Indian Wells, California, 371 00:32:56,767 --> 00:33:00,047 and when I was a that event, I decided to go to the CE-5. 372 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,944 I think it was on a Friday night. 373 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:07,156 I went to that CE-5 event, and a lot of kind of unusual things happened that night 374 00:33:07,192 --> 00:33:09,089 that I was not expecting to happen. 375 00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:10,989 During that CE-5 event. 376 00:33:11,022 --> 00:33:15,303 I did see a couple of ships phase in and phase out in the distance. 377 00:33:15,337 --> 00:33:17,925 Uh, lots of, like, activity like that. 378 00:33:17,961 --> 00:33:20,480 But what was very interesting was that there was a very heavy 379 00:33:20,515 --> 00:33:24,070 military presence there throughout the entire evening. 380 00:33:24,105 --> 00:33:26,520 And I kind of was puzzled as to why. 381 00:33:26,556 --> 00:33:29,109 Because I didn't see that much activity 382 00:33:29,144 --> 00:33:31,630 to justify that kind of military presence. 383 00:33:31,663 --> 00:33:33,632 There was one really unusual event 384 00:33:33,665 --> 00:33:35,625 that happened that night while I was at that CE-5. 385 00:33:36,152 --> 00:33:37,359 There was these two... 386 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:40,432 There was these two, I don't how to describe them, 387 00:33:40,465 --> 00:33:43,261 except they looked like butterflies that were on fire. 388 00:33:43,297 --> 00:33:44,884 They were very unusual. 389 00:33:46,334 --> 00:33:49,130 And I've never seen or experienced anything like this. 390 00:33:49,164 --> 00:33:53,271 They sort of phased in and phased out probably three times. 391 00:33:53,307 --> 00:33:56,723 And when they phased in, they would dance, and they were kind of... 392 00:33:56,758 --> 00:33:59,727 They had the whole crowd in awe, and the crowd was just tripping 393 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,971 on these butterfly UFOs. 394 00:34:03,006 --> 00:34:04,363 And they were dancing and then they would phase out, 395 00:34:04,386 --> 00:34:08,391 anyway, it was a pretty intense experience. 396 00:34:08,425 --> 00:34:12,429 And at one point, I kind of felt a lot of different energies over that field. 397 00:34:12,463 --> 00:34:16,675 I sensed what I believe were cloaked ships above that field. 398 00:34:16,708 --> 00:34:19,574 But I didn't... Of course, I didn't see anything like that, 399 00:34:19,608 --> 00:34:21,818 so I ended up leaving the event. 400 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:24,476 I think it was around 11 o'clock at night. I left by myself. 401 00:34:24,510 --> 00:34:26,547 Got my car. Was staying at a hotel 402 00:34:26,581 --> 00:34:28,617 about two miles away that night. 403 00:34:28,652 --> 00:34:30,239 When I was driving to the hotel, 404 00:34:30,275 --> 00:34:33,485 I notice this really bright white light in the rear-view mirror, 405 00:34:33,518 --> 00:34:36,108 so I was about a mile away from the hotel at the time, 406 00:34:36,143 --> 00:34:37,360 I drove to the hotel parking lot, 407 00:34:37,385 --> 00:34:39,559 I parked my car and I got out my phone 408 00:34:39,594 --> 00:34:42,320 and I started taping this white light. 409 00:34:42,356 --> 00:34:46,739 And it was a ship, and it was sitting above that field, 410 00:34:46,773 --> 00:34:49,293 at the CE5 that I just left where there was nothing going on. 411 00:34:49,327 --> 00:34:52,400 I remember thinking, "I wonder if anybody at the field" 412 00:34:52,434 --> 00:34:53,884 "can see what I'm taping right now." 413 00:34:53,918 --> 00:34:56,646 Because it was really bright and it was very significant. 414 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,751 So I was taping that for about 30-35 minutes. 415 00:34:59,786 --> 00:35:03,135 It was there for quite a while, just sitting above that field, 416 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:05,827 And at a point, I ended up going back into my room 417 00:35:05,862 --> 00:35:08,382 and playing the footage back. When I played the footage back, 418 00:35:08,416 --> 00:35:11,487 I noticed there was a TR-3B 419 00:35:11,523 --> 00:35:17,010 be sitting there cloaked, above that ship, above the field the entire time. 420 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,458 Uh, and that kind of blew my mind actually. 421 00:35:51,494 --> 00:35:54,117 Uh, what I thought was really significant about that 422 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:57,293 was, number one, that my phone picked this up, 423 00:35:57,327 --> 00:35:59,916 but I didn't see it with my naked eye. 424 00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:02,539 I thought that was interesting. I also thought it was interesting 425 00:36:02,574 --> 00:36:04,954 that here, if you really look closely at the footage, 426 00:36:04,989 --> 00:36:06,405 it looks like there's more than one, 427 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,063 although one stands out far more than the other. 428 00:36:09,097 --> 00:36:11,858 So, um, I thought it was significant also 429 00:36:11,893 --> 00:36:15,621 that there was a TR-3B craft, whether there was one or two 430 00:36:15,655 --> 00:36:19,349 sitting above the field of a CE-5 event 431 00:36:19,384 --> 00:36:21,695 at a major UFO conference. 432 00:36:21,731 --> 00:36:25,043 I thought, that's kind of spoke volumes about what's going on here. 433 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:28,496 And so, if you ask me, I think that there... 434 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:31,947 I think that we've back engineered alien technology. 435 00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:34,398 I think our secret space programs 436 00:36:34,432 --> 00:36:37,746 have really super-advanced stuff that they back engineered, 437 00:36:37,780 --> 00:36:40,025 and I think they're hiding it from the population. 438 00:36:40,059 --> 00:36:41,646 And I think they're able to do this 439 00:36:41,681 --> 00:36:46,168 because all of these craft can cloak to our naked eye. 440 00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:51,416 Also, it occurred to me later that those two butterfly UFO's 441 00:36:51,449 --> 00:36:54,797 that were on fire, that perhaps those... 442 00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:56,938 That I was right about my intuitive hit on those 443 00:36:56,972 --> 00:36:59,664 and maybe those were a projection 444 00:36:59,699 --> 00:37:02,115 coming from one of those cloaked ships above the field. 445 00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:38,911 Here we have a clip from a man named Eric 446 00:37:38,945 --> 00:37:42,121 that was filmed on September 7, 2021, 447 00:37:42,155 --> 00:37:45,815 of an obvious triangular TR-3B shaped object 448 00:37:45,849 --> 00:37:48,507 with three distinct lights on each corner. 449 00:37:48,541 --> 00:37:52,338 He says that it was captured in northwest Pennsylvania. 450 00:37:52,373 --> 00:37:55,342 He said that the object looked longer than others 451 00:37:55,376 --> 00:37:59,172 and was very low, and has a very low, deep tone 452 00:37:59,206 --> 00:38:02,072 that is obvious when the object was going over, 453 00:38:02,106 --> 00:38:04,902 because of how different it was and sounded, 454 00:38:04,936 --> 00:38:06,800 compared to other aircraft. 455 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,956 What is that? 456 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,652 Where? 457 00:38:30,686 --> 00:38:35,726 Here, we have an almost identical object to the clip that you just saw 458 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,833 with white glowing lights on each corner, 459 00:38:38,867 --> 00:38:41,559 forming a triangle that seems to be moving 460 00:38:41,594 --> 00:38:45,702 steadily and silently as it passes above 461 00:38:45,737 --> 00:38:48,326 and finally fades off into the darkness. 462 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,744 The man who recorded this, Joe Wall, from New Hampshire said, 463 00:38:52,777 --> 00:38:56,817 "I made a little compilation where the original video plays first," 464 00:38:56,851 --> 00:38:59,371 "then with it zoomed in and slowed." 465 00:38:59,405 --> 00:39:01,648 "I thought it was pretty insane." 466 00:39:01,684 --> 00:39:05,652 "That whole town kept losing power that night as well." 467 00:39:05,688 --> 00:39:07,793 "It would go off and back on." 468 00:39:07,827 --> 00:39:10,657 "Couldn't even use my debit card at the gas station." 469 00:39:10,693 --> 00:39:13,108 "I stayed at a hotel right there." 470 00:39:52,148 --> 00:39:55,081 Here's a clip from a man named Mark Kline 471 00:39:55,115 --> 00:39:57,014 that was filmed above his home, 472 00:39:57,048 --> 00:40:00,639 where he was doing some sky watching and filming in infrared 473 00:40:00,673 --> 00:40:03,677 recording the stars, and seeing what he could capture. 474 00:40:03,710 --> 00:40:07,231 At first, we see a satellite as indicated in the video, 475 00:40:07,266 --> 00:40:09,440 and then, as indicated with the arrow, 476 00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:14,307 We then see a distinct triangular pattern of lights, 477 00:40:14,342 --> 00:40:16,793 this time emitting more of a blue tinge 478 00:40:16,827 --> 00:40:20,900 but nonetheless flying in a perfect triangular formation. 479 00:40:20,934 --> 00:40:25,456 Silently passing overhead with the trees in the foreground. 480 00:40:25,492 --> 00:40:29,460 And some of you may be asking, "Well, why is it that if these are 481 00:40:29,496 --> 00:40:35,190 "solid triangular craft, are we able to sometimes see stars through them?" 482 00:40:35,224 --> 00:40:38,677 One of the main theories regarding some of the technology 483 00:40:38,711 --> 00:40:40,610 used within these vehicles 484 00:40:40,644 --> 00:40:44,096 is a cloaking ability that essentially puts 485 00:40:44,130 --> 00:40:47,202 a mirrored image around the object 486 00:40:47,237 --> 00:40:49,342 of everything that is surrounding it, 487 00:40:49,376 --> 00:40:54,141 hence giving you a view as if you are looking straight through the object. 488 00:41:07,085 --> 00:41:10,570 In this amazing clip, we have another object 489 00:41:10,606 --> 00:41:14,195 that is extremely similar to one of the earlier clips 490 00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:18,579 we showed of another one of these triangular formations of lights 491 00:41:18,614 --> 00:41:21,686 moving in a perfect synchronized fashion, 492 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,103 as if the lights are locked in with one another. 493 00:41:25,137 --> 00:41:28,485 The man who captured this, Michael Serrata, said, 494 00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:32,523 "I captured footage of a huge triangle formation 495 00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,768 "or possibly a single object, two months ago. 496 00:41:35,802 --> 00:41:40,463 "I have since filmed other triangular UFOs similar to this object, 497 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:43,672 but are different triangle-shaped formations. 498 00:41:43,708 --> 00:41:46,813 And as the clip starts, we see a few objects 499 00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:51,543 moving through space, and we can see laser pointers being used 500 00:41:51,577 --> 00:41:55,235 to attract the attention of whatever these unknown objects are. 501 00:41:55,271 --> 00:41:59,550 And so, as they were focusing their laser pointer on the one object 502 00:41:59,585 --> 00:42:01,311 towards the center of the screen, 503 00:42:01,346 --> 00:42:04,382 they completely miss what comes next. 504 00:42:04,418 --> 00:42:07,800 What appears to be nearly identical to the earlier clip 505 00:42:07,835 --> 00:42:13,012 where we have, this time, three fiery red glowing lights 506 00:42:13,047 --> 00:42:16,981 to the right of the screen, moving upwards to the northwest, 507 00:42:17,016 --> 00:42:22,090 where you can almost make out the the angle of the way the object is being viewed 508 00:42:22,125 --> 00:42:25,128 by the distance and the way the lights look, 509 00:42:25,163 --> 00:42:27,545 from the brightest light being closest to the camera 510 00:42:27,579 --> 00:42:30,824 and the furthest and smallest light, 511 00:42:30,858 --> 00:42:33,411 a little more hard to see in the background, 512 00:42:33,447 --> 00:42:35,793 as if the object is tilted. 513 00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:38,141 Here, you're seeing an enhanced version 514 00:42:38,175 --> 00:42:40,798 of the formation of fiery red lights 515 00:42:40,833 --> 00:42:44,871 that once again could be a formation, or could simply be 516 00:42:44,907 --> 00:42:48,911 a solid craft using some sort of cloaking technology. 517 00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:24,255 Here is a recent clip taken above Shanghai, China, in June of 2021, 518 00:43:24,291 --> 00:43:26,396 where bystanders on the ground were shocked to see 519 00:43:26,431 --> 00:43:31,228 this solid, sharp-edged black triangle 520 00:43:31,262 --> 00:43:36,336 sitting silently in the sky, moving slowly through the clouds of Shanghai. 521 00:44:19,795 --> 00:44:21,623 Got a weird, little thing. 522 00:44:22,590 --> 00:44:24,661 Looks like another stingray-type thing. 523 00:44:37,985 --> 00:44:43,750 Here, we have what the viewer called a stingray-like triangle object. 524 00:44:43,784 --> 00:44:49,617 It was captured in the skies over England on August 16, 2021. 525 00:44:57,315 --> 00:45:00,489 In 2004, the United States Navy 526 00:45:00,525 --> 00:45:04,253 applied for a patent to produce a triangular craft 527 00:45:04,286 --> 00:45:06,773 that looks a lot like the TR-3B, 528 00:45:06,806 --> 00:45:10,914 and its propulsion system could be something completely different 529 00:45:10,949 --> 00:45:15,574 than what the original TR-3B supposedly operated on. 530 00:45:22,409 --> 00:45:24,998 My name is Edgar Rothschild Fouche. 531 00:45:25,032 --> 00:45:27,414 I'm here to speak about secret government technology, 532 00:45:27,447 --> 00:45:29,829 reverse engineering of alien artifacts 533 00:45:29,864 --> 00:45:31,797 and the Top Secret MJ-12 committee, 534 00:45:31,831 --> 00:45:33,153 Before I'm through, you'll know exactly 535 00:45:33,177 --> 00:45:34,559 what the flying triangle is, 536 00:45:34,592 --> 00:45:36,905 the one that's been sighted around the world. 537 00:45:36,940 --> 00:45:39,840 It's the most exotic and classified aerospace vehicle 538 00:45:40,530 --> 00:45:42,911 that's ever been built. 539 00:45:42,947 --> 00:45:49,367 And may be stealthily hovering over Phoenix, Belgium, or your city. 540 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,713 The company in question was involved in developing 541 00:45:51,748 --> 00:45:54,855 the TR-3B gravity disruption device 542 00:45:54,889 --> 00:45:57,030 called a magnetic field disruptor, 543 00:45:57,063 --> 00:46:00,791 which is the circular accelerator, part of the TR-3B, 544 00:46:00,827 --> 00:46:03,967 which I'll go into more detail in a minute. 545 00:46:04,001 --> 00:46:08,523 So I'd first learned about Ed Fouche back in 2004, 546 00:46:08,557 --> 00:46:10,905 while I was just doing some research on anti-gravity, 547 00:46:10,940 --> 00:46:15,842 and I found an old presentation called 'the case for anti-gravity' 548 00:46:15,876 --> 00:46:18,568 and, uh, right towards the end of that, 549 00:46:18,603 --> 00:46:20,224 they had mentioned Ed Fouche 550 00:46:20,260 --> 00:46:23,193 and quasi-crystals and meta-materials, um, 551 00:46:23,228 --> 00:46:26,059 which I started looking into. 552 00:46:26,092 --> 00:46:29,476 Found, you know, Ed Fouche's, you know, original presentations 553 00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:31,996 from IUFOC in 1998. 554 00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:35,275 This idea of rotating mercury plasma engine. 555 00:46:35,309 --> 00:46:38,760 And so I started making a couple of videos on the physics ideas 556 00:46:38,795 --> 00:46:42,730 behind this anti-gravity, mercury-spinning, mercury-centrifuge engine 557 00:46:42,764 --> 00:46:45,387 and that whole gem theory thing. 558 00:46:45,422 --> 00:46:49,634 And that caught the attention of someone who knew Ed Fouche, 559 00:46:49,668 --> 00:46:51,291 a guy named Ella McCoy, 560 00:46:51,324 --> 00:46:53,983 who had a YouTube channel on back in the day. 561 00:46:54,018 --> 00:46:56,847 But he put me in touch with Ed Fouche. 562 00:46:56,882 --> 00:46:59,539 The rest of this video, although not complete, 563 00:46:59,574 --> 00:47:02,302 is a list of man-made advanced propulsion, 564 00:47:02,335 --> 00:47:06,858 or as those of us in the know like to call them, Alien Reproduction Vehicles. 565 00:47:06,893 --> 00:47:09,896 I'm going to go over a few known examples of these, 566 00:47:09,929 --> 00:47:13,864 and how to differentiate between them and actual alien vehicles, 567 00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:17,420 those produced and flown by extraterrestrial entities. 568 00:47:17,454 --> 00:47:21,114 The first on our list is the TR-3B Flying Triangle, 569 00:47:21,148 --> 00:47:25,427 which is the craft we see in the first ever episode of X-Files. 570 00:47:25,463 --> 00:47:28,016 This craft was the first ever prototype ARV 571 00:47:28,052 --> 00:47:31,226 to use the superfluid antigravity centrifuge engine. 572 00:47:31,262 --> 00:47:33,159 It looks like they built the engine first 573 00:47:33,195 --> 00:47:34,550 and then came up with the aircraft design 574 00:47:34,574 --> 00:47:37,233 to build around it, to make it fly. 575 00:47:37,268 --> 00:47:38,994 If you notice, the fluid is rotated 576 00:47:39,027 --> 00:47:41,927 inside of a small semi-spherical container 577 00:47:41,961 --> 00:47:43,860 located at the center of the craft. 578 00:47:43,894 --> 00:47:46,552 Since theTR-3B uses an accelerator 579 00:47:46,586 --> 00:47:48,106 with a small radius, 580 00:47:48,141 --> 00:47:53,318 it only succeeds in eliminating 85% of the total weight of the craft. 581 00:47:53,353 --> 00:47:58,081 Thus the rest of the lift is provided by three thrusters at each corner of the triangle, 582 00:47:58,115 --> 00:48:01,532 similar to the PV-704's use in the Avrocar propulsion drive. 583 00:48:01,568 --> 00:48:04,916 Only these run on liquid oxy-hydrogen. 584 00:48:04,951 --> 00:48:07,746 These served to stabilize and control the flight of the craft 585 00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:09,989 as well as a portion of the lift. 586 00:48:10,025 --> 00:48:12,786 Stabilization and direction is a key design problem 587 00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:18,032 with craft that utilize a superfluid, super-ferro fluid in the gravity engine. 588 00:48:18,067 --> 00:48:22,001 Note the three stabilizer units mounted on the underside of these other craft. 589 00:48:22,036 --> 00:48:25,592 These air most likely some sort of specialized gyroscopes. 590 00:48:25,626 --> 00:48:30,666 But they also could be some sort of wave amplifiers as Bob Lazar suggests. 591 00:48:30,699 --> 00:48:34,945 Either way, their function is more or less the same, stabilization and direction. 592 00:48:34,981 --> 00:48:37,327 You can tell by the fact that there are three of them. 593 00:48:37,362 --> 00:48:41,193 It appears that they also double as tripod landing gear. 594 00:48:41,228 --> 00:48:45,681 Brad Sorenson produced this drawing of an ARV or Alien Reproduction Vehicle. 595 00:48:45,715 --> 00:48:48,373 Here are some other photographs of similar craft 596 00:48:48,407 --> 00:48:51,617 which, in my opinion, are all man-made products of the secret government. 597 00:48:51,652 --> 00:48:54,896 To me, the most fascinating vehicle from the Aurora program 598 00:48:54,931 --> 00:48:57,416 has been the TR-3B. 599 00:48:57,451 --> 00:49:02,731 It's a triangular-shaped vehicle that uses a circular accelerator, 600 00:49:02,766 --> 00:49:04,871 if you imagine a circle within a triangle, 601 00:49:05,907 --> 00:49:08,773 that rotates a mercury-based plasma 602 00:49:08,806 --> 00:49:11,878 at 60,000 revolutions per minute, 603 00:49:11,914 --> 00:49:14,641 pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres 604 00:49:14,675 --> 00:49:17,333 and super-cooled to 150 degrees Kelvin. 605 00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:22,925 I absolutely that all the triangular-shaped vehicles 606 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,445 that have been spotted belong to the US Government. 607 00:49:25,478 --> 00:49:29,311 He does come from a background of, you know, Intelligence. 608 00:49:29,344 --> 00:49:31,864 And he did teach me a lot 609 00:49:31,898 --> 00:49:35,489 about, you know, about how the intelligence works in the military, 610 00:49:35,523 --> 00:49:39,320 and how these special access programs, and how all the funding 611 00:49:39,355 --> 00:49:42,255 and the contracting and all that stuff really works. 612 00:49:42,289 --> 00:49:44,635 He did teach me an incredible amount 613 00:49:44,670 --> 00:49:48,847 about, you know, how that stuff really functions behind the scenes, 614 00:49:48,882 --> 00:49:52,574 but it also helped me, you know, verify a lot of what he was saying. 615 00:49:52,610 --> 00:49:56,614 First off, we asked TD Barnes if Bob Lazar ever worked out of Area 51 616 00:49:56,648 --> 00:49:58,684 and his answer was straight out, "No." 617 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,103 He was former special projects manager out at Area 51 618 00:50:03,137 --> 00:50:04,655 for almost a decade 619 00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:08,177 When I asked him if Ed Fouche, if he could, you know, ask around 620 00:50:08,211 --> 00:50:13,043 and tell me if Ed Fouche worked out there, his response back was, 621 00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:17,635 "I can neither confirm nor deny whether Ed Fouche worked out of Area 51". 622 00:50:17,668 --> 00:50:21,431 And that kind of, you know, confirmed it for me, you know, when TD Barnes said 623 00:50:21,465 --> 00:50:24,090 he can't confirm nor deny whether Ed worked out there. 624 00:50:24,123 --> 00:50:26,643 That was like, "Well, that means he worked out there," 625 00:50:27,576 --> 00:50:30,474 What was it about his explanation 626 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:36,032 of the physics of the supposed TR-3B 627 00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:38,172 that piqued your interest 628 00:50:38,206 --> 00:50:41,590 and made you think, "Hmm, maybe there's something here." 629 00:50:41,623 --> 00:50:43,349 The thing that interested me first was 630 00:50:43,385 --> 00:50:46,215 that there was a couple different sources talking 631 00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:49,217 about this rotating, you know, rotating superconductors, 632 00:50:49,253 --> 00:50:50,530 research was just coming out. 633 00:50:50,563 --> 00:50:53,532 A lot of that research was being done at NASA at the time, 634 00:50:53,567 --> 00:50:58,572 and was coming out through American anti-gravity around the same time. 635 00:50:58,606 --> 00:51:02,092 So we're learning about NASA's research with rotating super conductors, 636 00:51:02,128 --> 00:51:06,614 the Russian Podkletnov and his rotating superconductor experiment. 637 00:51:06,648 --> 00:51:10,445 And so I I thought that there might be some sort of connection between, 638 00:51:10,481 --> 00:51:13,414 you know, rotating superconductor anti-gravity research 639 00:51:13,449 --> 00:51:16,659 and this idea of a rotating mercury-based plasma. 640 00:51:16,693 --> 00:51:19,938 And so I began investigating that connection first. 641 00:51:19,972 --> 00:51:24,288 That's what drew me, initially, to the the propulsion technology side of it. 642 00:51:24,322 --> 00:51:27,911 But then, the mention of quasicrystals and meta-materials 643 00:51:27,945 --> 00:51:31,742 and all that interesting scientific literature I started finding 644 00:51:31,777 --> 00:51:34,125 when I began researching those topics 645 00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:37,266 made me instantly realize that, you know, this was, 646 00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:40,166 you know, meta-materials are used for invisibility technology 647 00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:42,891 and that then I started realizing you know, realizing 648 00:51:42,927 --> 00:51:47,931 all the technology that, you know, all the research that has been done on Area 51, 649 00:51:47,965 --> 00:51:49,599 Project Rainbow and all this other stuff, 650 00:51:49,623 --> 00:51:54,420 and I was able to confirm that a lot of those, uh, these materials 651 00:51:54,456 --> 00:51:56,561 were, in fact, you know, something special, 652 00:51:56,596 --> 00:52:01,152 and that, you know, some ordinary staff sergeant from the military 653 00:52:01,186 --> 00:52:03,913 knowing about these things, there was something, 654 00:52:03,947 --> 00:52:06,606 you know, maybe something more there. 655 00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:10,954 'Cause it wasn't something that your average person talked about in 1998. 656 00:52:10,989 --> 00:52:13,509 No, it was virtually unheard of, in fact. 657 00:52:13,543 --> 00:52:15,579 A lot of that physics literature, 658 00:52:15,614 --> 00:52:18,135 you can't find a lot of meta-materials. 659 00:52:18,168 --> 00:52:20,137 You can't find a lot of stuff in the literature 660 00:52:20,170 --> 00:52:23,898 on meta-materials or quasicrystals before, in 2002. 661 00:52:23,932 --> 00:52:26,902 And then Fouche was talking about these things in 1998 662 00:52:26,936 --> 00:52:28,697 nearly four years earlier. 663 00:52:28,731 --> 00:52:32,045 So that sort of, you know, really made me say, 664 00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:34,806 "Wow, this is something you should be paying attention to" 665 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,498 "and looking deeper into." 666 00:52:38,775 --> 00:52:41,951 When I started researching quasicrystals, you know, 667 00:52:41,985 --> 00:52:45,576 I realized that the guy who discovered quasicrystals, Dan Shechtman, 668 00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:49,648 did his Post-Doc after receiving his materials degree 669 00:52:49,682 --> 00:52:52,237 in Material Science from Technion University in Israel, 670 00:52:52,271 --> 00:52:56,206 he went and did his Post Doc at Wright Patterson 671 00:52:56,242 --> 00:52:59,900 at the Wright State Materiels Command, 672 00:52:59,934 --> 00:53:02,454 which is the exact place where, you know, you'd expect 673 00:53:02,489 --> 00:53:05,871 these sort of alien materials to be, you know, 674 00:53:05,905 --> 00:53:07,528 to be present and being analyzed. 675 00:53:07,563 --> 00:53:10,186 So I thought that was a very interesting connection 676 00:53:10,221 --> 00:53:15,226 that the scientist who discovered quasicrystals 677 00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:19,782 did some work connected to Wright Patterson Materiel Command 678 00:53:19,817 --> 00:53:23,233 on icosahedral phase crystals and stuff. 679 00:53:23,268 --> 00:53:27,204 So It was quite interesting to learn about that. 680 00:53:27,237 --> 00:53:30,206 Then, of course, if you research all the history of metamaterials, 681 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,969 you'll find that these were developed pretty much at Area 51, 682 00:53:34,003 --> 00:53:37,835 was a lot of the pioneering research into meta-materials 683 00:53:37,869 --> 00:53:41,632 and nuclear magnetic resonance and EMF response. 684 00:53:41,666 --> 00:53:46,670 Those technologies were pioneered at Area 51. 685 00:53:46,706 --> 00:53:50,882 Again meta-material is an interesting word. 686 00:53:50,916 --> 00:53:53,851 It's basically... Meta-material, for the layman, 687 00:53:53,885 --> 00:53:59,650 is a material that gains its resonant or response properties 688 00:53:59,684 --> 00:54:01,617 through its structure. 689 00:54:01,652 --> 00:54:03,757 Not through its composition or what it's made of, 690 00:54:03,791 --> 00:54:07,795 but by just the natural structuring of the actual material. 691 00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:11,869 So it was discovered that grids, for example, had a different response, 692 00:54:11,902 --> 00:54:16,666 or, um, the things with sharp edges had a different response 693 00:54:16,701 --> 00:54:18,427 than smooth edges and rounded edges, 694 00:54:18,461 --> 00:54:23,086 which is why you see all those sharp edges on the F-117 stealth fighter 695 00:54:23,121 --> 00:54:24,951 versus you know, the round edges 696 00:54:24,985 --> 00:54:26,918 on the fuselage than the quasicrystals, 697 00:54:26,952 --> 00:54:29,266 because that was some deep insight 698 00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:31,889 into some interesting information, 699 00:54:31,922 --> 00:54:33,960 and how he knew about that 700 00:54:33,994 --> 00:54:37,135 and how he was aware of those technologies... 701 00:54:37,170 --> 00:54:41,311 Um, you know, I'm still trying to figure that out, 702 00:54:41,347 --> 00:54:44,797 and I, you know, I think it might have been... He might've knew Harold Puthoff 703 00:54:44,833 --> 00:54:48,318 and might have gotten the information through Harold Puthoff. 704 00:54:48,353 --> 00:54:52,115 There was one contact I know that he had because he talked about Hal Puthoff 705 00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:57,570 and actually had his email and put me in touch with Hal Puthoff 706 00:54:57,603 --> 00:54:59,329 years ago at one point, 707 00:54:59,364 --> 00:55:02,505 So I know that he had some of these contacts 708 00:55:02,539 --> 00:55:05,715 who are into this black world physics stuff. 709 00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:11,411 So a quasicrystal is is a periodic crystal. 710 00:55:11,445 --> 00:55:13,688 It has a different phase. 711 00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:15,621 It has recurring symmetries, 712 00:55:15,657 --> 00:55:17,762 but it doesn't have innate symmetry 713 00:55:17,797 --> 00:55:18,797 at the basic level. 714 00:55:18,831 --> 00:55:21,351 It has a more complex symmetry shape. 715 00:55:21,387 --> 00:55:25,322 So they were originally thought not to exist. 716 00:55:25,356 --> 00:55:28,463 In fact, one of the most famous scientists of the day, 717 00:55:28,496 --> 00:55:31,155 Linus Pauling, you know, once famously claimed 718 00:55:31,188 --> 00:55:35,262 there's no such thing as quasicrystals, only quasi-scientists, 719 00:55:35,297 --> 00:55:40,059 making a, you know, a direct jab at Daniel Shechtman, 720 00:55:40,094 --> 00:55:43,443 who is, of course, the scientist that made this discovery 721 00:55:43,478 --> 00:55:46,688 and won the Nobel Prize for the discovery of quasicrystals, 722 00:55:46,722 --> 00:55:51,900 Also, quasicrystals have very amazing optical properties, 723 00:55:51,934 --> 00:55:55,385 which is one of the main things that I took note of 724 00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:58,112 and started researching when I first found out about them. 725 00:55:58,146 --> 00:56:02,668 For instance, a researcher from Princeton, New Jersey, Eric Quinones 726 00:56:02,704 --> 00:56:05,119 showed that you could bend fiber optic signals 727 00:56:05,153 --> 00:56:08,329 at 90-degree angles without losing signal quality. 728 00:56:08,364 --> 00:56:09,813 So basically, you can basi... 729 00:56:09,849 --> 00:56:14,853 You can build photonic computers out of quasicrystals and meta-materials 730 00:56:14,887 --> 00:56:19,686 and build wave-guides that would use light in photonics, 731 00:56:19,721 --> 00:56:22,862 in a type of advanced circuitry. 732 00:56:22,896 --> 00:56:26,521 So that was what I first saw and started learning about 733 00:56:26,554 --> 00:56:29,869 when I first researched these things back in 2004 734 00:56:29,902 --> 00:56:33,458 and I immediately, you know, realized that, you know, 735 00:56:33,492 --> 00:56:38,394 we're dealing with something very close to alien technology. 736 00:56:38,429 --> 00:56:41,398 What I believe alien technology would look like, you know, 737 00:56:41,431 --> 00:56:48,197 describe, as we think of it, engineered down to the atomic level, 738 00:56:48,231 --> 00:56:52,684 A rotating, pulsating red light in the middle. 739 00:56:53,755 --> 00:56:58,000 We also talk about an object, that had vertical development, 740 00:56:58,034 --> 00:57:03,972 Those who could see it from the side, saw a dome, dome on the top of it, 741 00:57:04,005 --> 00:57:06,525 And in these domes, there are windows. 742 00:57:06,561 --> 00:57:11,219 My opinion, uh, it didn't have any influence at all 743 00:57:11,255 --> 00:57:14,534 on all the witness reports, which were done before. 744 00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:18,813 So it has no influence, in fact, on the Belgian wave. 745 00:57:18,849 --> 00:57:23,577 But it's very unfortunate that we have shown this photograph 746 00:57:23,612 --> 00:57:27,443 as being the brand of the Belgian wave 747 00:57:27,478 --> 00:57:33,657 of being the object that has been operating above Belgium. 748 00:57:33,690 --> 00:57:38,315 So what kind of aircraft were being developed in the late 1980s 749 00:57:38,351 --> 00:57:42,148 that could explain that Belgian wave of UFO sightings? 750 00:57:42,181 --> 00:57:47,186 Because I've had a number of people that have watched my videos on the TR-3B 751 00:57:47,222 --> 00:57:49,603 and came and said, "Listen, I had a sighting." 752 00:57:49,637 --> 00:57:52,744 "I saw this craft, and there's nothing else that looks like it" 753 00:57:52,778 --> 00:57:55,782 "except this TR-3B thing that you're talking about." 754 00:57:55,817 --> 00:57:58,820 "Nothing else that can describe accurately what I saw." 755 00:57:59,371 --> 00:58:00,925 Um... 756 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,585 So there is a lot of research that's being done in ufology, 757 00:58:05,619 --> 00:58:10,106 into what kind of craft were being developed during that time. 758 00:58:10,141 --> 00:58:11,704 Could they explain this, or was it, you know, 759 00:58:11,728 --> 00:58:16,215 a wave of visitors from outer space that were responsible? 760 00:58:16,251 --> 00:58:19,496 Um, you know, what are the origins of that craft 761 00:58:19,530 --> 00:58:22,188 that people were seeing in those sightings? 762 00:58:22,222 --> 00:58:26,675 So we did look back to, you know, Northrop-Grumman 763 00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:31,128 and that 1991 Popular Mechanics article on the TR-3A, 764 00:58:31,161 --> 00:58:34,786 because we have aTR-3A. It's a real... Apparently there's blueprints on it. 765 00:58:34,820 --> 00:58:38,030 There's a whole, there's a contractor, Northrop Grumman, 766 00:58:38,065 --> 00:58:40,275 that developed a TR-3A. 767 00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:41,552 So that led us to thinking, 768 00:58:41,586 --> 00:58:44,693 "Oh, well, TR-3B has got to be another Northrop Grumman craft" 769 00:58:44,728 --> 00:58:47,039 because, you know, it's just one letter off. 770 00:58:47,074 --> 00:58:49,146 But then I talked to Ed Fouche, and he said, 771 00:58:49,179 --> 00:58:53,563 no, he didn't think that Northrop Grumman was the contractor, 772 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:56,117 that they had used the TR-3A 773 00:58:56,152 --> 00:58:59,155 and change the letter to make it, you know, similar, 774 00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:01,847 so that it would throw people off. 775 00:59:01,882 --> 00:59:06,750 You know, another layer here of secrecy, to throw people off. 776 00:59:06,784 --> 00:59:11,306 So it's hard to say, we have never found, you know, blueprints 777 00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:14,860 or, you know, a contractor or anyone come forward 778 00:59:14,896 --> 00:59:18,139 that said they've worked on these massive space platforms. 779 00:59:18,175 --> 00:59:21,385 Apparently these platforms were developed 780 00:59:21,418 --> 00:59:23,489 for a secret space program, 781 00:59:23,525 --> 00:59:28,909 specifically, as you know, transport vehicles to shuttle, 782 00:59:28,943 --> 00:59:31,844 you know, men and cargo to and from space 783 00:59:32,878 --> 00:59:36,123 to secret space platforms and locations. 784 00:59:36,157 --> 00:59:41,612 Of course, you know, again, the evidence for this is 785 00:59:41,646 --> 00:59:44,891 - is where we we, um... - We're lacking. 786 00:59:44,925 --> 00:59:48,307 We're lacking a definitive proof to show that, you know, 787 00:59:48,342 --> 00:59:50,172 this is what's really going on. 788 00:59:50,206 --> 00:59:54,418 But these are some of the stories that, you know, have come out of this. 789 00:59:54,452 --> 00:59:56,800 Typically, aircraft lettering is, 790 00:59:56,833 --> 00:59:59,699 you know, the letter stands for what its purpose is. 791 00:59:59,733 --> 01:00:02,150 Like, F is for fighter, B is bomber, 792 01:00:03,771 --> 01:00:10,088 So TR, Tactical Reconnaissance would follow that, you know, nomenclature, 793 01:00:10,123 --> 01:00:14,195 Certainly, but again, this is where Ed Fouche says 794 01:00:14,231 --> 01:00:17,336 that we step outside the normal zone into the Twilight Zone. 795 01:00:17,371 --> 01:00:19,891 Things are a little different in the black world. 796 01:00:19,925 --> 01:00:24,378 But again, this speculation is just speculation 797 01:00:24,413 --> 01:00:28,865 because we don't have military classifications. 798 01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:32,697 We have some... we know that, you know, physicists were working 799 01:00:32,731 --> 01:00:36,666 on nuclear-powered aircraft as early as the 1960s. 800 01:00:36,702 --> 01:00:40,083 In fact, Stan Friedman apparently worked on 801 01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:44,226 on some of these nuclear-powered aircraft as well. 802 01:00:44,260 --> 01:00:47,021 You know, famous UFO researcher Stanton Friedman, 803 01:00:47,056 --> 01:00:48,413 which I thought was interesting. 804 01:00:48,436 --> 01:00:52,648 And I sent you that info on that other nuclear-powered aircraft 805 01:00:52,682 --> 01:00:56,963 that they were thinking about and conceptualizing back in the '70s. 806 01:00:56,998 --> 01:00:59,585 But of course, treaties outlawed 807 01:00:59,621 --> 01:01:02,659 the use of nuclear weapons in space and on airplanes. 808 01:01:02,693 --> 01:01:08,077 So, um, you know, if research continued with nuclear powered aircraft, 809 01:01:08,112 --> 01:01:10,494 they would have had to be done in a complete black world 810 01:01:10,527 --> 01:01:13,047 where, well, it would never, you know, see the light of day 811 01:01:13,083 --> 01:01:16,706 because that of course would violate international treaties. 812 01:01:16,742 --> 01:01:21,262 And, you know, the TR-3B is basically like an illegal craft, 813 01:01:21,297 --> 01:01:25,474 and if it does exist, or ever did exist, 814 01:01:25,509 --> 01:01:28,407 then chances of it being declassified are almost zero 815 01:01:28,443 --> 01:01:30,583 because it isn't, because it violates 816 01:01:30,617 --> 01:01:35,414 you know, international treaties for nukes and airplanes. 817 01:01:35,449 --> 01:01:37,693 So it's kind of like this dilemma craft 818 01:01:37,728 --> 01:01:42,353 It's not like the SR-71 or the A-12 or the F-117, 819 01:01:42,387 --> 01:01:45,356 where, you know, after a couple of years of being out there, 820 01:01:45,391 --> 01:01:47,945 it's going to turn from a, you know, 821 01:01:47,980 --> 01:01:49,981 black world craft to, you know, 822 01:01:50,016 --> 01:01:52,673 where they have to admit to it and show it off. 823 01:01:52,708 --> 01:01:54,606 I don't think we're ever gonna get that day 824 01:01:54,641 --> 01:01:57,230 where they roll one of these TR-3Bs out of the hangar 825 01:01:57,264 --> 01:01:59,760 and show it off to the public. I don't think that that would ever happen 826 01:01:59,784 --> 01:02:01,130 even if it were the case. 827 01:02:12,625 --> 01:02:17,422 The person who founded and created the Lockheed Skunk works 828 01:02:17,456 --> 01:02:19,458 was Kelly Johnson. 829 01:02:19,494 --> 01:02:23,463 His right-hand man was Ben R. Rich. 830 01:02:23,498 --> 01:02:27,639 Ben was an aeronautical engineer. he was a thermodynamist. 831 01:02:28,813 --> 01:02:32,300 He's... I think he was originally from England. 832 01:02:32,333 --> 01:02:35,233 Think I met him at a conference 833 01:02:35,268 --> 01:02:37,960 and talked to him and asked him, "You know, could I call you?" 834 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,621 And he was, you know, he was very obliging, 835 01:02:44,552 --> 01:02:46,141 And we just started up a conversation. 836 01:02:46,175 --> 01:02:49,731 And it grew to the point over 25 years, 837 01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:53,182 that we spoke approximately once a quarter. 838 01:02:53,217 --> 01:02:56,702 If I didn't call him, he called me. 839 01:02:56,737 --> 01:03:02,123 According to Ben Rich, we have the ability today 840 01:03:03,882 --> 01:03:05,436 to take ET home. 841 01:03:05,471 --> 01:03:09,543 Which means we have the hardware. We're flying the stuff. 842 01:03:09,577 --> 01:03:12,373 It's very possible some of the UFOs that are seen 843 01:03:12,409 --> 01:03:14,342 are man-made. 844 01:03:14,376 --> 01:03:17,827 Now, John Andrews in June of '86, 845 01:03:17,862 --> 01:03:19,864 John Andrews was with Testor Corporation. 846 01:03:19,898 --> 01:03:22,005 They make model airplanes and cars and stuff, 847 01:03:23,246 --> 01:03:24,972 And he was a pen-pal with Ben. 848 01:03:25,007 --> 01:03:27,873 Ben adored John Andrews and he adored me 849 01:03:27,907 --> 01:03:31,186 because we had a passion for what he had a passion for. 850 01:03:31,221 --> 01:03:33,809 And John wrote a letter to Ben Rich, 851 01:03:33,844 --> 01:03:36,882 and he said, "Ben, I have to ask you a question." 852 01:03:36,916 --> 01:03:39,090 "Do you believe in UFOs?" 853 01:03:39,125 --> 01:03:40,608 Now, there are two categories. 854 01:03:40,643 --> 01:03:42,956 Both man-made and extraterrestrial. 855 01:03:44,474 --> 01:03:48,271 And Ben came back on his own letterhead 856 01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:53,139 as president of the Lockheed Skunk Works. 857 01:03:53,173 --> 01:03:57,143 He said, "Both Kelly and I are firm believers in both categories." 858 01:03:58,661 --> 01:04:02,666 "We refer to ours as Un-Funded Opportunities" 859 01:04:02,699 --> 01:04:04,875 and he underlines the U, the F and the O. 860 01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:07,532 He said, "But beware, there are people" 861 01:04:07,567 --> 01:04:11,054 "who will lead you astray and possibly do you harm." 862 01:04:11,088 --> 01:04:17,335 Ben told us that "we refer to ours as unfunded opportunities." 863 01:04:17,369 --> 01:04:19,889 If you didn't fund it, if you didn't have to pay for it, 864 01:04:19,925 --> 01:04:24,204 if it was given to you, or it crashed and you recovered it, 865 01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:26,585 that's an unfunded opportunity. 866 01:04:26,621 --> 01:04:30,797 And in 1996, it was a graduate student 867 01:04:30,831 --> 01:04:35,561 gathering or convention of aeronautical engineers from UCLA. 868 01:04:35,594 --> 01:04:38,494 And their keynote speaker was Ben Rich, 869 01:04:38,528 --> 01:04:41,947 and Ben had been retired as President of Skunk Works. 870 01:04:41,981 --> 01:04:44,121 And he's out there talking about what he did 871 01:04:44,155 --> 01:04:47,123 for the 40 years, you know, he worked with Kelly Johnson. 872 01:04:48,505 --> 01:04:50,057 And one of the last things he said. 873 01:04:50,092 --> 01:04:53,855 And you can search it on Google or Bing or whatever, 874 01:04:53,889 --> 01:04:56,202 it's, it's there. 875 01:04:56,237 --> 01:04:59,826 Ben Rich told this audience in 1996, 876 01:05:01,449 --> 01:05:05,246 "We have the ability to take ET home" 877 01:05:07,041 --> 01:05:09,974 But the government won't declassify the information. 878 01:05:10,009 --> 01:05:12,045 When Ben Rich was referring to the fact 879 01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:15,496 that we had the ability to take ET home, 880 01:05:15,532 --> 01:05:17,947 that means we can travel across the universe. 881 01:05:20,432 --> 01:05:26,405 I believe he said it because we have recovered crashed UFOs. 882 01:05:27,612 --> 01:05:32,099 We have been given UFOs, 883 01:05:32,135 --> 01:05:35,414 and we have found abandoned UFOs. 884 01:05:35,447 --> 01:05:38,416 Now one question has been raised repeatedly 885 01:05:38,451 --> 01:05:41,592 when you talk about issues about disclosure, 886 01:05:41,626 --> 01:05:42,972 all right, UFO disclosure. 887 01:05:43,007 --> 01:05:47,425 And there's a very significant argument 888 01:05:47,460 --> 01:05:54,467 that the admission of something else out there 889 01:05:54,501 --> 01:05:57,711 can easily be used, let's say, by the military 890 01:05:57,746 --> 01:06:01,612 to justify, you know, further ballooning 891 01:06:01,646 --> 01:06:03,960 of the already massive military budget. 892 01:06:05,063 --> 01:06:06,445 We hear this a lot, 893 01:06:06,478 --> 01:06:11,242 and some people will talk about this in a totally pejorative way. 894 01:06:11,277 --> 01:06:14,556 They'll say, "Well, they're creating an alien threat where there isn't one" 895 01:06:14,590 --> 01:06:19,215 "just to scare the public and justify all this extra money being spent" 896 01:06:19,251 --> 01:06:21,010 "to either take your rights away" 897 01:06:21,045 --> 01:06:23,599 "or to just spend a lot of money on military." 898 01:06:25,326 --> 01:06:26,543 There's another way to look at it, 899 01:06:26,568 --> 01:06:31,434 which is that they might play it that way 900 01:06:31,469 --> 01:06:33,643 because there is a genuine threat. 901 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,371 Like, a lot of the folks who complain 902 01:06:37,407 --> 01:06:39,891 about the possibility of, like a false flag 903 01:06:39,925 --> 01:06:43,516 or some kind of deception about an alien threat, 904 01:06:43,550 --> 01:06:45,172 they're working off the assumption 905 01:06:45,208 --> 01:06:49,626 that the aliens are definitely not afraid, or definitely beneficial. 906 01:06:49,659 --> 01:06:52,248 And, you know, where I stand on that is, 907 01:06:52,284 --> 01:06:57,081 I think that's never been a rock-solid assumption. 908 01:06:58,358 --> 01:07:00,257 There are people who believe that. 909 01:07:00,291 --> 01:07:02,880 I've just never been fully persuaded 910 01:07:02,914 --> 01:07:04,606 by the evidence that that's true. 911 01:07:05,675 --> 01:07:07,851 My opinion is that, 912 01:07:07,885 --> 01:07:13,545 it's based on the behaviors that we have recorded, okay... 913 01:07:15,306 --> 01:07:18,724 is that I actually think that there are multiple groups and there's more than one. 914 01:07:18,757 --> 01:07:22,452 And from the information that we are getting, 915 01:07:22,485 --> 01:07:25,523 there's at least reason to think that one of those groups 916 01:07:25,557 --> 01:07:28,043 does not have our best interests at heart 917 01:07:28,077 --> 01:07:30,079 and may actually be hostile to us. 918 01:07:30,114 --> 01:07:33,532 And you... I've heard this again and again and again. 919 01:07:33,565 --> 01:07:36,016 And indeed, when you look at the long history 920 01:07:36,052 --> 01:07:38,398 of military engagements with these things, 921 01:07:39,675 --> 01:07:44,094 they're not usually initiating overt hostilities, 922 01:07:44,128 --> 01:07:48,719 although there have been pilot deaths in connection with UFOs. 923 01:07:48,753 --> 01:07:52,722 And some of the engagements do actually seem like they're being hostile. 924 01:07:52,757 --> 01:07:59,730 But generally, uh, they're just being provocative in one way or another. 925 01:07:59,764 --> 01:08:03,079 So, at the at the least, you can say there's some kind of trouble 926 01:08:03,112 --> 01:08:06,840 out there in paradise, between us and at least one group of them. 927 01:08:06,875 --> 01:08:10,155 And if you're a military person, you know, 928 01:08:10,188 --> 01:08:15,021 look, your job in the military is to defend your nation. 929 01:08:15,056 --> 01:08:17,023 That's your job. 930 01:08:17,057 --> 01:08:21,407 And if you've got even a potential threat in these other things, 931 01:08:21,442 --> 01:08:23,926 you have to, by your duty, 932 01:08:24,997 --> 01:08:28,725 you have to recognize that threat, and you have to 933 01:08:28,759 --> 01:08:30,554 at least have a plan for dealing with it. 934 01:08:30,588 --> 01:08:32,211 That's just the reality. 935 01:08:32,246 --> 01:08:34,557 So does that mean they're gonna go false-flagging us? 936 01:08:34,592 --> 01:08:37,251 Or they're gonna be legit? Look, I don't know. 937 01:08:37,284 --> 01:08:38,805 I don't have every answer here, either. 938 01:08:39,631 --> 01:08:43,842 But, uh, it's not illegitimate. 939 01:08:43,877 --> 01:08:47,984 At least, you know our priority is, on the face of it, 940 01:08:48,020 --> 01:08:51,920 it's not illegitimate to at least explore the possibility of threat. 941 01:08:52,506 --> 01:08:53,783 That's my position. 942 01:08:54,646 --> 01:08:58,237 What attracted you to physics? 943 01:08:58,271 --> 01:09:03,104 I started teaching, taught physics and astronomy here at Nebraska, Omaha, 944 01:09:03,139 --> 01:09:04,519 for 34 years, 945 01:09:04,554 --> 01:09:09,627 And during that time, I also taught for 17 summers, 946 01:09:09,662 --> 01:09:13,425 and for a number of times during the year 947 01:09:13,458 --> 01:09:17,704 at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, California, 948 01:09:17,738 --> 01:09:22,467 I had a security clearance, and I studied the effects of nuclear weapons. 949 01:09:22,502 --> 01:09:25,677 I studied electromagnetic theory, and nuclear theory, 950 01:09:25,712 --> 01:09:29,198 a bunch of different things and atmospheric physics. 951 01:09:29,234 --> 01:09:31,270 And I did that for 17 summers. 952 01:09:31,305 --> 01:09:34,203 That was a big part of my research. 953 01:09:34,238 --> 01:09:37,000 I also got a grant to work for NASA. 954 01:09:37,033 --> 01:09:41,417 STS-48, September 13, 1991. 955 01:09:41,453 --> 01:09:44,939 It appears there is something coming from the Earth's surface 956 01:09:44,972 --> 01:09:48,390 in response to an object entering the atmosphere. 957 01:09:48,425 --> 01:09:51,670 Soon after this footage was shot, Dr. Kasher wrote 958 01:09:51,703 --> 01:09:54,775 a full scientific analysis of the events. 959 01:09:54,810 --> 01:09:58,953 He submitted his findings to NASA and the public. 960 01:09:58,987 --> 01:10:00,506 I don't know what this thing is, 961 01:10:00,541 --> 01:10:02,853 but it's really a very interesting object too. 962 01:10:18,179 --> 01:10:20,871 Depending on how far away from the shuttle they were 963 01:10:20,905 --> 01:10:24,529 was an extraordinary thing. 964 01:10:24,564 --> 01:10:27,636 To the extent that if they were ten miles or farther from the shuttle, 965 01:10:27,671 --> 01:10:30,260 they behaved in ways that were vastly beyond 966 01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:31,813 anything that we can do on the Earth. 967 01:10:31,847 --> 01:10:36,127 Four NASA employees were given this to offer their opinion. 968 01:10:36,162 --> 01:10:39,511 They just watched the video. They did no analysis of it, 969 01:10:39,545 --> 01:10:44,032 and what they came up with was reasonable, that it had to be ice particles, 970 01:10:44,067 --> 01:10:45,551 and that's as far as they took it. 971 01:10:45,586 --> 01:10:48,381 They did not say a single thing about, there were two streaks 972 01:10:48,416 --> 01:10:52,282 that went up through there, like you might expect from a missile. 973 01:10:52,317 --> 01:10:56,596 I was able to rule out at least five times, five different proofs 974 01:10:56,631 --> 01:10:59,600 that they were not ice particles. 975 01:10:59,634 --> 01:11:02,774 And if they weren't, the only other viable option 976 01:11:02,810 --> 01:11:04,569 is some kind of spacecraft. 977 01:11:04,604 --> 01:11:06,537 And the way it behaved... 978 01:11:06,572 --> 01:11:09,886 Again, I can't prove how far away it was from the shuttle. 979 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,993 If it is a mile away, that's unbelievably close. 980 01:11:14,028 --> 01:11:15,270 It's dangerous. 981 01:11:15,305 --> 01:11:19,515 If it's ten miles away, it accelerated in a fashion 982 01:11:19,551 --> 01:11:24,382 that was beyond anything that humans could stand, 100Gs it would be, 983 01:11:24,417 --> 01:11:27,524 which would, you know, destroy a human being, 984 01:11:27,559 --> 01:11:30,699 And then, if you start going out beyond ten miles. 985 01:11:30,734 --> 01:11:34,979 Then we're talking about quantum leaps in technology beyond what we have. 986 01:11:35,842 --> 01:11:40,329 And so, to me, the logical conclusion is 987 01:11:40,364 --> 01:11:43,506 that these were spacecraft from somewhere else out in space 988 01:11:43,539 --> 01:11:45,059 away from the shuttle. 989 01:11:45,092 --> 01:11:49,408 And it's hard to explain those two streaks that went through there, 990 01:11:49,443 --> 01:11:51,859 unless it is in terms of... 991 01:11:51,893 --> 01:11:54,827 One good explanation might be that they were missiles, 992 01:11:54,862 --> 01:11:58,623 that we might be firing at them. And that's a scary thing too. 993 01:11:58,658 --> 01:12:03,215 Dr. Jack Kasher is another perfect example 994 01:12:03,248 --> 01:12:07,632 of a NASA employee blowing the whistle on UFOs. 995 01:12:10,083 --> 01:12:13,155 As we continue into modern space exploration, 996 01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:16,400 NASA became more sophisticated in their approach 997 01:12:16,435 --> 01:12:20,819 at hiding what they were recording, above and beyond. 87630

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