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(helicopter whirring)
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- [Elizabeth] They wanted
people to see what happens
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when you rebel.
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You know, that they were
prepared to kill you,
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and not only kill
you, but kill anybody.
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That's the basic
contradiction, you see.
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The inmates couldn't believe
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that the state
would kill its own.
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And the state couldn't believe
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that the inmates
wouldn't kill everybody.
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And they were both wrong.
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- [Man Over Speaker] Those
of you who have not done so,
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surrender peacefully.
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You will not be harmed.
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Place your clasped
hands on your head.
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- [Narrator] All
right, here we go.
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So, I mean, I guess
tell me who you are
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and what your title was.
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- Who am I and
what my title was.
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I never had a, oh,
well, that's not true.
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I was, I still am,
I sort of consider,
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a staff attorney at Attica
Brothers Legal Defense.
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- [Narrator] On
September 13th, 1971,
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the state of New
York shot and killed
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39 of its own citizens,
injured hundreds more,
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and tortured the survivors.
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During the 30-year legal
battle that followed,
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the prisoners who fought to
expose the truth of that day
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became known as the
Attica Brothers.
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Fink joined their
legal team two weeks
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after being admitted to
practice law in New York.
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- People need human rights.
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- [Narrator] She had
a high profile career
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defending vulnerable communities
from the most powerful foe
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in her time, the US government.
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- If you don't put your
government to the task,
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then you get our Constitution
being used as toilet paper.
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- I'm gonna release
the defendant on his
own recognizance.
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(crowd cheering)
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- [Narrator] Black Panthers
like Dhoruba Bin-Wahad;
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Puerto Rican nationalists,
hacker Jeremy Hammond.
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- Freedom, freedom now.
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- [Narrator] Her focus was
attacking abuse of power
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by defending its victims.
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But no case required as
much dedication or attention
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as Attica.
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- There is no
justice in America.
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What empowers you is
the fight for justice.
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(audience applauding)
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- [Narrator] When she died
in 2015, she left a legacy
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as a fierce defender
of human rights,
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a lawyer who changed the face
of jury selection forever,
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and a mentor to a new
generation of radical
thinkers.
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She also left me a box that
she had guarded for decades.
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It was an archive with
hundreds of photographs
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and over 60 hours of videotape
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containing the most
damning evidence
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remaining from
the Attica trials.
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The state of New York had
declared this material lost
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decades ago, but as lead
counsel
in the 26-year civil phase,
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Fink figured out
where it was hidden.
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This archive proved
allegations of wanton murder
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and abuse by state police,
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and was a cornerstone of
the $8 million settlement
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in the civil trial, the
largest
ever granted to prisoners.
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- [Elizabeth] We
needed the evidence,
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and it became clear to me
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that they were
going to destroy it.
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- [Narrator] So, how
do you have it now?
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- [Elizabeth] I stole it.
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- [Narrator] From?
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- [Elizabeth] New York state.
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I didn't steal it.
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I shouldn't say that.
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I expropriated it from them,
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as the chief counsel
for the prisoners,
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who were the plaintiffs.
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We're at this point right now,
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where they are refusing to
admit they have all these
files,
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and they are lying
about what they have.
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And it's all gonna be blown
up because I took it all.
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- [Narrator] The archival
photos and videos
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used in this film are
from the Fink collection.
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They have never been
available to the public.
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- [Elizabeth] I mean
we did this huge trial
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and everybody wants to ignore
it because it proves up
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what we know to be true,
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which is that it was a
massacre,
and they did it on purpose.
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(intense music)
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I should probably go back.
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In seventh grade, I was
called Khrushchev's daughter.
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Okay?
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In ninth grade, I was thrown
out of school for a day
because
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I surmised that Francis
Gary Powers was a spy.
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And my teacher went nuts on me
and suspended me from school.
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Now, the next day, when it was
announced that he was a spy,
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he had to apologize,
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but trust me, he never
forgave me for that.
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I was famous for being
leftist in high school.
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You know, I sounded
like my mother,
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I talked like my mother,
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and I went in there
and I made a scene.
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She was the head of the
Eastern Parkway chapter
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of the American Jewish Congress.
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When I say Jewish, I
mean Jewish communists.
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You always gotta
understand communist,
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'cause my parents didn't
do Judaism at all.
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My father left the party
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immediately after
marrying my mother.
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My mother didn't leave
the party until 1952.
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My mother was into the
race issue, always.
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We used to go down to
Florida every year.
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We used to drive
down in the car.
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And we used to go
into a restaurant
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in South Orangeburg, South
Carolina, and we'd order.
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And about 10 minutes
before the food would come,
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my mother would beckon
over the waitress.
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Say, "Oh, do you
serve Negroes here?"
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"Oh, no ma'am, don't
you worry about a thing.
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We don't let no
niggers in here."
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And we would then have to
get up and leave. Okay.
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So that was, we didn't eat
much
on the way down to Florida.
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(Elizabeth laughs)
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On one level, you're
always embarrassed.
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But I always, on another level,
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I always admired her
ability to do that.
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She taught me how to
fight, politically.
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She was the most enlightened
person of her age I ever met.
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The whole struggle for Black
liberation was so profound.
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Those pictures, I
mean, you see them,
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those lynching pictures,
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with all those white people
looking at those bodies.
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I mean, ugh.
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(slow somber music)
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The thing about Emmett Till
was people for the first time
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had to look at it, and
it was unbelievable.
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After all, he was 14.
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And then everything else,
you know, Little Rock.
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And then, when you put
it together with Nazism,
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and say, "Well, if
you let this happen,
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if you're not
fighting against this,
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you ain't no
different than them."
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(slow somber music)
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I was taught that the
struggle for Black people
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for freedom and
justice in this country
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was the most important
thing I could be a part of.
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That it was my responsibility
as a white person,
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to support and do
everything I could.
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And that people
had to get together
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and organize together
to change their lot.
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I was taught that it's
everybody's obligation
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to join the movement.
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- I think it's better to be
aggressive at this point.
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It seems to me that it
is both historically
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and sociologically true
that privileged classes
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do not give up their
privileges voluntarily.
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- When I went to Reed
College, I joined SDS,
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but that wasn't my thing.
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I became involved in
student government.
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And I became a member
of the Community Senate.
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And then I became
Student Body President
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and head of the Judicial Board.
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And then I came out of
Reed and my father died,
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which was a terrible
thing for me.
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And I had to run his business.
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And my mother certainly didn't
want me to run his business.
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My mother wanted me to
be a leftist lawyer.
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And so she was gonna
facilitate that.
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But, in August of 1968, (laughs)
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me and a friend named Ken
Linden drove to Chicago
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for the Democratic convention.
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We were not there
to demonstrate.
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We were there to watch.
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- [Crowd] Peace now, peace
now, peace now, peace now.
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- We walked out of the hotel
and walked into Lake Shore Park
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or whatever, and all of
a sudden we're overtaken
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by National Guardsmen
with bayonets and rifles.
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So, to make a long story short,
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we're caught up in this
thing and it's 8:06 at night
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on the corner of State and
Grant, and I'm right there.
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And I look at the cops
and they go, "You ready?"
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And they charged.
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(tear gas explodes)
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(slow haunting music)
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First of what happened is
that they had one charge,
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and then the second charge,
Sidney Peck walked over to
them,
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who was the leader
of the demonstration,
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and was gesticulating,
"Why did you just do that?"
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They were beating everybody.
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And they beat him to a pulp
down there and dragged him away.
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And then everybody started,
there was this police riot.
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(tense haunting music)
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Okay, so,
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at 8:06 p.m. on
August 28th, 1968,
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I became a different person,
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because then my whole thing
kicked in about, you know,
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being the child of Jews
right after Nazism.
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And when you have this kind
of thing you've gotta fight.
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And as a result of that,
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I became an active, principled
and full-time leftist.
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(tribal drumming music)
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(rapid ticking)
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- In America, Black people
are treated very much
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as are the Vietnamese people,
or any other colonized people
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because we're used,
we're brutalized,
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because they have
their orders to do so.
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And, just as the
soldiers in Vietnam
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have their orders to destroy
the Vietnamese people.
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- [Elizabeth] There was
the Black Panther Party,
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it was all there.
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- [Group] The pigs are gonna
catch hell. Off the pigs.
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No more--
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- It was Huey and all that,
and
then there was Bobby Hutton,
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and then, it just
escalated from there.
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Attica was just the end of it.
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You had all the people,
you had Martin killed.
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You had Malcolm,
you had all of that.
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Then in 1969, you
had Fred Hampton.
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- I'm the Deputy Chairman
of the state of Illinois
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Black Panther
Party, Fred Hampton.
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- This is where our Chairman
had his brains blown out
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As he was laying in his bed
sleeping at 4:30 in the
morning.
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- Started with the gun,
still on single fire,
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brought it all the way
across the wall again.
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- Fred Hampton, 21 years old,
and a member of a militant,
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well-known militant group,
was murdered in his bed,
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probably as he lay asleep.
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- I mean, they were at war.
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There was all this stuff,
there was stuff in LA,
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you know what I mean?
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So you were looking at that
kinda shootout all the time.
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And...
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- Good morning, Vietnam and
welcome back to part two
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of the "Dawn Buster."
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- Your country was at
war, and all these people
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from your country are out
there killing all these
people.
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- There's a woman running,
so they shoot her down,
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and I couldn't imagine
why she's running.
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After all, we only raped
three
women in the last village.
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And we killed an old
man over there too.
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- And doing this
unbelievable stuff to them.
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- I shot her about
five or six times.
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And I went there
and turned her over
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and there was a little
three-month-old baby.
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- Which you got to watch
on television everyday.
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- So I think I killed
about 18 to 20 people.
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- [Interviewer] How
did the guys look
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when they were doing this?
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- It was like they were
having a lot of good time.
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- As far as resistance
is concerned,
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we didn't encounter any
resistance whatsoever.
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- The fire bombing of villages.
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- After we swept through the
village, we turned around,
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went back through it and
burned all the buildings.
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- [Interviewer] Now, to
destroy
everything in the village
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means to destroy the people.
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- Right.
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- The slaughter of children.
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- We figure that the
babies, when they grow up,
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they will be VC anyway.
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So why give 'em the
opportunity to grow up?
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- All of this, constant.
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- We didn't believe that
this would be such a
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publicity stunt.
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We felt that this had been
happening many times before,
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and it'd probably been
happening many times since.
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- And the people that
they're fighting,
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you support with every
fiber of your being.
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I mean really, every
fiber of your being.
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And that is heavy.
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- [Announcer] President
Johnson,
meanwhile, let it be known
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that the FBI is closely
watching all anti-war
activity.
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- You know, at a certain point
in the 60s and everything,
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everybody was in the streets,
it was really revolution,
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and they hated it.
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And so they had to do
something about it.
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And what they did was
mass incarceration.
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They took the entire
underclass
and they imprisoned it.
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- America's public enemy
number one in the United States
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is drug abuse.
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In order to fight and
defeat this enemy,
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it is necessary to wage
a new all-out offensive.
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I went to law school because
I wanted to be a lawyer,
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but I certainly didn't
wanna go to law school.
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It was boring as hell.
286
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The reason why I went
to Brooklyn Law School
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is 'cause it cost $1,500 a year.
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- [Narrator] Were there are
a lot of women in law school?
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When was it, I mean--
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- Oh, no.
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There were 150
people in my class.
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And 15 of them were women.
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In a year, 50% of the
women had been flunked out.
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Everybody would snicker
when the women came.
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You would be called on to
give your cases or whatever.
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The women only were called
on for statutory rape,
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all sexual and everybody
would be (muttering).
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I had gone to law school, but
I had chosen the revolution
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many years before.
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So I went to law school
to represent people
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who took radical action.
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And I got to do that.
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- [Narrator] Among the first
radical actors Fink
represented
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were the Attica Brothers,
a group of almost 1300 men
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who were connected by the
Attica prison rebellion.
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She started by learning
the details of the case
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and comparing their
stories to the narrative
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being developed by the state.
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- Truly, Attica is every
prison,
and every prison is Attica.
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- [Narrator] In October,
1971, the state of New York
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convened an
investigative committee
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to study the causes and outcomes
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of the Attica prison rebellion.
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The McKay Commission
produced a three-volume
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written report, as well
as a documentary film
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that aired on public
broadcasting stations.
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The McKay Commission film
was among the material
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declared by the state
of New York to be quote
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"lost or missing," unquote.
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But Fink had a copy on VHS
that they were unaware of.
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It has not been
available to the public
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for more than 40 years.
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- I think Attica brings
to mind several things.
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The first is the basic
inhumanity of man-to-man.
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To people, be they
Black, yellow, orange,
spotted, whatever.
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Whatever uniform they wore,
that day tore from them
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the shreds of their humanity.
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- I'm Robert McKay,
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Dean of New York
University School of Law,
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and Chairman of the Special
Commission on Attica.
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43 people died at Attica
in September, 1971.
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39 of them in the attack
that retook the prison,
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four others during
the insurrection.
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The commission believes that
to understand the uprising,
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one must understand
the nature of Attica.
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Therefore, an essential
part of our report
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is a study of the structure
and operation of Attica
prison.
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- [Narrator] Attica
sits on 53 acres
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of rural Western New
York, near Buffalo.
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It's four cell blocks
form a 600-foot square
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around recreation yards.
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A 30-foot wall,
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two feet thick and sunk
12 feet into the ground,
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with 14 gun towers,
surrounds the entire prison,
345
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creating an enclosed world
with its own standards,
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economy, and government.
347
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- [Elizabeth] New York
produces a lot of
criminality.
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Murder Incorporated,
Dutch Schultz, all that,
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they weren't in the Feds,
they were in the State.
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Up the river, that's Sing Sing.
351
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They only began to mass
incarcerate Black people
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after the war.
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And really, when the civil
rights struggle became.
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Before that, they had a system
which held them in place.
355
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- [Narrator] Prisons in
New York state are called
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correctional facilities, but
what they provide is custody.
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Guards are called
correction officers,
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but their work is the
routine of confinement.
359
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They operate Attica's
security machine,
360
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and that doesn't leave much
time for correctional work.
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In any case, few of the
officers have had much
training
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in these skills.
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- [Elizabeth] Correctional
officer doesn't have any
skill.
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All he does is sit and watch
people and beat 'em up.
365
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Watch 'em when they walk, watch
'em here, watch 'em there.
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It's like a being a
teacher without teaching.
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- [Narrator] correctional
officers, the commission
found,
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have in the main chosen
this work for job security,
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not because they want to
rehabilitate criminals.
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- [Elizabeth] Attica
was this terrible place.
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It was run by this hideous
warden, Vincent Mancusi.
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It was upstate New York.
All white rednecks.
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It was totally segregated.
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- [Narrator] Most officers
first come to know Blacks
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as convicted criminals,
not social equals,
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and racism affects some
officers' judgment.
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- They tell you when to
get up in the morning,
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when to go to chow, when
to go to sleep at night,
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when to go to movies,
when the go to the yard,
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when to come back from the yard.
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Do you know the frustration
I'm going through
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and I'm a good inmate?
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Just being incarcerated.
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00:18:39,666 --> 00:18:41,750
Incarceration is hell, I
don't care what anybody says.
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00:18:41,833 --> 00:18:42,916
Can you imagine
you not being able
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to just express an opinion?
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00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:46,291
You know the first
thing they'll say is,
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"I don't wanna hear it.
389
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When you got an opinion,
I don't wanna hear it."
390
00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:50,541
Huh? I'm a man.
391
00:18:50,625 --> 00:18:51,958
I committed a crime,
but I'm a man.
392
00:18:52,041 --> 00:18:53,833
And I'll be a man
when I leave Attica.
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00:18:53,916 --> 00:18:56,166
- People were paid
56 cents a day.
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You get a roll of
toilet paper a month.
395
00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:02,416
And you know, you had to
work in the metal shop
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at 108 degrees,
397
00:19:03,958 --> 00:19:06,250
and they'd only let you have
a shower every two weeks.
398
00:19:07,958 --> 00:19:10,166
I mean, the food was terrible.
399
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- [McKay] Commission found
prison food to be unappetizing
400
00:19:12,083 --> 00:19:14,958
and not up to
nutritional standards,
401
00:19:15,041 --> 00:19:17,791
even though the basic
ingredients were
of good quality.
402
00:19:17,875 --> 00:19:19,416
- The healthcare, the doctors,
403
00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:24,416
Williams and Sternberg,
were Nazis, Nazis.
404
00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:26,375
I mean, I could go on.
405
00:19:26,458 --> 00:19:29,875
- [Narrator] In October,
1970, inmates at Auburn prison
406
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were told they couldn't hold a
Black Solidarity Day meeting.
407
00:19:33,416 --> 00:19:34,750
They held it anyway.
408
00:19:34,833 --> 00:19:36,875
Believing reprisals were
to be taken against them,
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00:19:36,958 --> 00:19:39,000
they made guards hostages.
410
00:19:39,083 --> 00:19:41,208
They released the hostages
after they got a promise
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00:19:41,291 --> 00:19:42,583
of no reprisals.
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Despite the promise, several
of the alleged leaders
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of the protest were shipped
to solitary at Attica.
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00:19:47,625 --> 00:19:50,000
- [Elizabeth] And had the
shit kicked out of them.
415
00:19:50,083 --> 00:19:51,125
That was the point.
416
00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:53,416
They were promised
no physical reprisals
417
00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:55,375
and then they beat
the hell out of 'em.
418
00:19:55,458 --> 00:19:57,541
- [Narrator] When
released by a court order,
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they told Attica inmates
a story of betrayal.
420
00:20:00,208 --> 00:20:05,125
- In the spring of '71,
they sent a manifesto,
421
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saying we really
need changes here.
422
00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:12,125
And they took it from
George Jackson and Folsom.
423
00:20:12,208 --> 00:20:15,208
These were all people
out of the city,
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and they were revolutionary,
they were radicals,
425
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,083
many of them, and they
knew everybody was angry
426
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because not two weeks
before they had put on
427
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a prison-wide protest, when
George Jackson was murdered.
428
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,125
And they came into
the mess hall,
429
00:20:31,208 --> 00:20:33,916
and no one took any
food and no one ate.
430
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:39,000
And mass action by convicts,
ooh, makes people very nervous,
431
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very upset, so they
were gettin' scared.
432
00:20:42,708 --> 00:20:45,041
- [Narrator] Inmate
Lanny Boone was there.
433
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- By noon, everybody
knew what was going on.
434
00:20:48,333 --> 00:20:49,166
- What was the reaction
of the correction officers
435
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to this kind of an
organized demonstration?
436
00:20:53,416 --> 00:20:55,125
- Then were uptight,
to say the least.
437
00:20:55,208 --> 00:20:59,208
- It got away from them
because of Russell Oswald.
438
00:20:59,291 --> 00:20:59,958
- [Narrator] Russell
Oswald told the commission
439
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he took over the prison system
440
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at a time of mounting tension.
441
00:21:03,541 --> 00:21:05,791
- Who was head of the department
of correctional services,
442
00:21:05,875 --> 00:21:07,791
and he was a liberal.
443
00:21:08,916 --> 00:21:11,125
And he was a real
white boy liberal.
444
00:21:11,208 --> 00:21:16,125
And he was trying
to be diplomatic.
445
00:21:17,375 --> 00:21:19,208
He had known that there
was trouble at Attica,
446
00:21:19,291 --> 00:21:22,916
and he was supposed
to come and visit it.
447
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,958
And he came, and he got
waylaid by his wife being
sick.
448
00:21:28,583 --> 00:21:29,666
And he left a tape.
449
00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:32,875
- [Russell] Many of you have
voiced confidence in me,
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and in the directions
I have talked about,
451
00:21:34,833 --> 00:21:36,375
and I appreciate this.
452
00:21:38,083 --> 00:21:39,166
I'm certain you realize
453
00:21:39,250 --> 00:21:42,666
that change can't be
accomplished overnight.
454
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- And this was on the seventh.
455
00:21:45,291 --> 00:21:48,833
And, everybody had to listen
to Osward telling them
456
00:21:48,916 --> 00:21:51,083
that he was a good guy and
that he was gonna do this.
457
00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:54,333
"I'm gonna do this,
and I'm gonna,"
458
00:21:54,416 --> 00:21:57,000
and it made everybody
even more angry.
459
00:21:57,083 --> 00:22:01,041
On September 8th, everybody
was gearing up for football.
460
00:22:01,125 --> 00:22:03,791
These two guys were
on the A block team,
461
00:22:03,875 --> 00:22:07,708
Ray Lamorie and Leroy Dewer,
they were white and Black.
462
00:22:07,791 --> 00:22:10,291
And they began to
practice, sparring,
463
00:22:10,375 --> 00:22:12,333
and the guards went nuts.
464
00:22:12,416 --> 00:22:14,666
And they broke it up and they
thought it was a whole thing,
465
00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,750
and everybody got uptight.
466
00:22:16,833 --> 00:22:19,375
You know, the guards
had to pull back.
467
00:22:19,458 --> 00:22:20,875
And that was a big thing.
468
00:22:20,958 --> 00:22:24,250
That night they came and took
Ray and Leroy up to the box.
469
00:22:26,291 --> 00:22:27,291
And everybody on the
company went nuts.
470
00:22:29,375 --> 00:22:34,291
This guy, William
Ortiz, threw a soup can
471
00:22:35,625 --> 00:22:36,916
and hit Curtiss, who
was the lieutenant,
472
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,500
right on the forehead.
473
00:22:40,583 --> 00:22:42,708
- No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
474
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- [Elizabeth] Very bad.
475
00:22:44,208 --> 00:22:45,500
- [Narrator] The day's
events left officers uneasy
476
00:22:45,583 --> 00:22:47,541
about what might
happen the next day.
477
00:22:47,625 --> 00:22:52,041
- For some time, we've all
been
concerned about this trouble
478
00:22:52,125 --> 00:22:53,083
that was brewing in the prison.
479
00:22:53,166 --> 00:22:54,375
You could feel it in the air.
480
00:22:54,458 --> 00:22:57,916
- So the next morning
they keep locked him,
481
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,750
which is they
closed his cell door
482
00:22:59,833 --> 00:23:00,791
and they weren't
gonna let him out.
483
00:23:00,875 --> 00:23:04,041
But as they were going
out to breakfast,
484
00:23:04,125 --> 00:23:07,958
somebody flipped the switch,
and Toriano went out too.
485
00:23:08,041 --> 00:23:09,541
So already, we're
into revolution here.
486
00:23:09,625 --> 00:23:14,416
There was a confrontation
right at the A yard entrance,
487
00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:18,125
which is halfway in
that long corridor
488
00:23:18,208 --> 00:23:20,833
between them and Curtiss.
489
00:23:20,916 --> 00:23:25,625
And they took over, and
they grabbed Curtiss.
490
00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:29,125
And, they all converge
on Times Square.
491
00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:31,916
There was the central
area, which is square,
492
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,583
called Times Square, and that
controlled all the prisons.
493
00:23:35,666 --> 00:23:37,208
And if you got in
and out of that,
494
00:23:37,291 --> 00:23:39,666
you had control over everything.
495
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:41,791
And, one of the gates broke.
496
00:23:41,875 --> 00:23:44,291
- [Narrator] Shortly
thereafter, about 25 inmates
497
00:23:44,375 --> 00:23:46,375
from this group rushed
the Times Square gate
498
00:23:46,458 --> 00:23:47,458
they had just come through.
499
00:23:47,541 --> 00:23:48,500
They shook it and shoved at it.
500
00:23:48,583 --> 00:23:50,958
Officers behind the gate
had no reason to expect
501
00:23:51,041 --> 00:23:53,458
that it wouldn't hold.
502
00:23:53,541 --> 00:23:55,791
- [Elizabeth] Unbeknownst
to everybody, the gate,
503
00:23:55,875 --> 00:23:58,375
the A gate is defective.
504
00:23:58,458 --> 00:24:02,375
It's very old and
there's 45 people pushing
505
00:24:02,458 --> 00:24:05,166
and screaming, with
sticks and rage.
506
00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:07,500
- [Narrator] A
faulty bolt snapped,
507
00:24:07,583 --> 00:24:09,458
and inmates poured through,
attacking the officers.
508
00:24:09,541 --> 00:24:12,750
- [Elizabeth] And they
beat the three cops.
509
00:24:12,833 --> 00:24:16,750
They give Quinn a big-time
concussion, which kills him.
510
00:24:16,833 --> 00:24:21,125
They fracture his skull,
was actually what they do.
511
00:24:21,208 --> 00:24:22,875
And, a lotta people hit him.
512
00:24:24,083 --> 00:24:25,625
Lotta different people.
513
00:24:28,416 --> 00:24:30,375
- [Officer] A guard
named Melvin or Melville
514
00:24:30,458 --> 00:24:32,333
was on this post
515
00:24:33,458 --> 00:24:35,541
when the incident first started.
516
00:24:39,125 --> 00:24:41,916
Arm is pointing to a
hand print on the wall,
517
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,500
imprinted in blood.
518
00:24:44,041 --> 00:24:46,166
We can see
519
00:24:48,250 --> 00:24:51,666
patches of blood on the floor.
520
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:56,250
- No one, inmate, correction
officer, or prison official,
521
00:24:56,333 --> 00:24:58,083
could've known that one
of the Times Square gates
522
00:24:58,166 --> 00:24:59,625
was held by a weakened bolt.
523
00:25:01,083 --> 00:25:03,791
Many years earlier,
two pieces of steel
524
00:25:03,875 --> 00:25:07,125
were badly welded together, and
the weld covered with paint.
525
00:25:08,458 --> 00:25:10,708
Had the gate held, it is
possible that the uprising
526
00:25:10,791 --> 00:25:12,125
would have been contained.
527
00:25:12,208 --> 00:25:14,041
- Did you have any
understanding as to whether
528
00:25:14,125 --> 00:25:18,708
there was a policy as to what
to do in those circumstances?
529
00:25:19,791 --> 00:25:23,541
- There had been a
riot plan of sorts,
530
00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:27,833
which all supervisory officers
531
00:25:27,916 --> 00:25:29,416
were to familiarize
themselves with.
532
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:34,416
But it pertained largely
to a single area,
533
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,583
an isolated area where a
disturbance might occur.
534
00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:42,666
It didn't provide for a
institution-wide problem.
535
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,625
- [Questioner] Was that
plan ever communicated
536
00:25:44,708 --> 00:25:45,750
to the officers?
537
00:25:45,833 --> 00:25:48,083
- I don't know. Not
to my knowledge.
538
00:25:48,166 --> 00:25:49,958
- [Narrator] When the inmates
broke into the metal shop,
539
00:25:50,041 --> 00:25:52,916
they took the guards and
civilians working there
hostage,
540
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,333
and ordered them to strip.
541
00:25:54,416 --> 00:25:56,333
- [Elizabeth] There were
civilians throughout the
prison,
542
00:25:56,416 --> 00:25:58,500
who are not correction officers.
543
00:25:58,583 --> 00:26:00,500
- [Narrator] This is
the area from which
544
00:26:00,583 --> 00:26:02,625
a large group of
hostages was taken.
545
00:26:05,291 --> 00:26:07,041
- [Elizabeth] They were account,
546
00:26:07,125 --> 00:26:10,125
the supervisors and the fore
people in the metal shop,
547
00:26:10,208 --> 00:26:12,083
the people who knew
how to do metal work,
548
00:26:12,166 --> 00:26:14,083
welders and stuff.
549
00:26:14,166 --> 00:26:15,583
- [Narrator] Word was
passed for the inmates
550
00:26:15,666 --> 00:26:18,083
to take their
captives to D yard.
551
00:26:18,166 --> 00:26:20,250
- Then, once everybody
got in the yard,
552
00:26:20,333 --> 00:26:21,416
then the politics took over.
553
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:24,541
Attica was a riot,
it began as a riot
554
00:26:24,625 --> 00:26:26,708
and it immediately
turned into a rebellion.
555
00:26:27,833 --> 00:26:29,958
It was a political time.
556
00:26:30,041 --> 00:26:31,750
People were
political, everywhere.
557
00:26:31,833 --> 00:26:35,250
There were political
movements within the prison.
558
00:26:35,333 --> 00:26:37,416
People couldn't
stand the conditions.
559
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:38,791
- Although the
Commission recognizes
560
00:26:38,875 --> 00:26:41,208
that many inmate
grievances were justified,
561
00:26:41,291 --> 00:26:42,375
the Commission condemns
the taking of hostages
562
00:26:42,458 --> 00:26:45,000
as a means of obtaining redress.
563
00:26:46,541 --> 00:26:48,541
But unless the dehumanizing
quality of inmate life
564
00:26:48,625 --> 00:26:51,625
is eliminated by
meaningful reform,
565
00:26:51,708 --> 00:26:54,291
inmate frustrations are
bound to find their outlet
566
00:26:54,375 --> 00:26:56,125
in future prison riots.
567
00:26:56,208 --> 00:26:58,083
- Shortly before 9:00
a.m. this morning,
568
00:26:58,166 --> 00:27:00,291
the time set aside for
visitors to the prison,
569
00:27:00,375 --> 00:27:01,958
a violent disturbance broke out
570
00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:04,250
in four of the five cell blocks.
571
00:27:04,333 --> 00:27:07,500
Prisoners took over, over a
thousand prisoners took over,
572
00:27:07,583 --> 00:27:08,791
we'll do it again.
573
00:27:08,875 --> 00:27:10,041
Well damage to prison buildings
574
00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:12,208
will no doubt be
repaired in time.
575
00:27:12,291 --> 00:27:14,666
As far as restoring
order to this facility,
576
00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:16,166
that's another story.
577
00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:17,625
- [Elizabeth] Now
in the laundry,
578
00:27:17,708 --> 00:27:19,625
we have Frank
"Large Brown" Smith.
579
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:29,583
- And Big Black is not
a political person.
580
00:27:29,666 --> 00:27:29,708
He's a hustler.
581
00:27:30,791 --> 00:27:34,958
He's charismatic, he's
terrific in many ways,
582
00:27:35,041 --> 00:27:37,583
but he is, you know,
he's a hustler.
583
00:27:37,666 --> 00:27:40,625
He was huge, a big guy.
584
00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:44,458
And by the time he was
eight, he was in trouble.
585
00:27:44,541 --> 00:27:46,666
He never really went to school.
586
00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:49,666
He never really learned grammar
587
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:51,416
or how to write or any of that.
588
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:53,583
He just didn't
have any, you know,
589
00:27:53,666 --> 00:27:56,166
'cause he was out on
the street hustling.
590
00:27:57,583 --> 00:28:00,291
When he was 12 years
old he got busted,
591
00:28:00,375 --> 00:28:02,125
and he gets outta that one.
592
00:28:02,208 --> 00:28:05,958
They bust them again and
they give them a choice about
593
00:28:06,041 --> 00:28:10,875
whether he wants to go to
prison or go into the Army.
594
00:28:10,958 --> 00:28:15,958
So, he enlists into the
Army and he becomes an MP.
595
00:28:17,708 --> 00:28:19,375
Then they ship him to Korea.
596
00:28:20,583 --> 00:28:23,541
And he doesn't see any
reason why he's here at all.
597
00:28:23,625 --> 00:28:26,041
And all these people
are shooting at him.
598
00:28:26,125 --> 00:28:28,041
Right. You know?
599
00:28:28,125 --> 00:28:29,875
And he didn't like it at all.
600
00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:34,083
So, he came back, he
sold reefer, mostly.
601
00:28:34,166 --> 00:28:36,375
He was a junkie from
the Army, of course.
602
00:28:36,458 --> 00:28:40,583
And then he was hustling,
603
00:28:40,666 --> 00:28:44,458
and he got involved in this
crap game with some others,
604
00:28:44,541 --> 00:28:48,041
and some shit went down and
605
00:28:48,125 --> 00:28:51,375
they called the cops.
606
00:28:51,458 --> 00:28:56,416
They got busted, and he refused
to rat on his co-defendant,
607
00:28:57,041 --> 00:28:58,958
and he got 15 years.
608
00:28:59,041 --> 00:29:03,375
And, he's one of the leading
hustlers in the jail.
609
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:06,583
He's got an institutional pass.
610
00:29:06,666 --> 00:29:09,625
He does the laundry
for the warden.
611
00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:13,958
And he had this one
guard, Tony Sangiacomo,
612
00:29:14,041 --> 00:29:16,291
who was his outside
bringing-er in.
613
00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:18,125
Right. You know?
614
00:29:18,208 --> 00:29:23,083
And the riot started,
the laundry fell,
615
00:29:24,375 --> 00:29:26,625
and he's about to
walk to C block
616
00:29:26,708 --> 00:29:30,166
and not get involved
in this rebellion.
617
00:29:30,250 --> 00:29:32,458
'Cause he don't want this shit.
618
00:29:32,541 --> 00:29:34,833
And just as he was doing,
someone ran over to him,
619
00:29:34,916 --> 00:29:39,833
and said "Man Tony's
busted, they got Tony,"
620
00:29:41,541 --> 00:29:42,875
his main guy, Sangiacomo.
621
00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:45,750
So he turns around and
goes into the yard.
622
00:29:47,416 --> 00:29:50,458
And Tony's got his arm
broken, and he's a mess.
623
00:29:50,541 --> 00:29:52,625
And Black goes over to Tony
and says, "Man, don't worry,
624
00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:53,875
I'll take care of it."
625
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,083
And he becomes the
head of security,
626
00:29:56,166 --> 00:30:00,000
to determine who's gonna get
out, who's not gonna get out,
627
00:30:00,083 --> 00:30:01,291
and everything else like that.
628
00:30:01,375 --> 00:30:04,500
The next morning he
gets Tony out. Okay?
629
00:30:04,583 --> 00:30:06,000
'Cause he's got a broken arm.
630
00:30:06,083 --> 00:30:07,541
And then he starts to
listen to the whole thing,
631
00:30:07,625 --> 00:30:09,916
and he gets turned on by it.
632
00:30:11,916 --> 00:30:14,125
- [Narrator] As head
of security, Big
Black formed a circle
633
00:30:14,208 --> 00:30:17,083
of disciplined Muslim inmates
to protect the hostages
634
00:30:17,166 --> 00:30:18,958
from the constant threat
of inmate reprisal.
635
00:30:19,041 --> 00:30:22,500
He immediately arranged for
the release of injured
hostages
636
00:30:22,583 --> 00:30:24,166
so they could
receive medical care.
637
00:30:24,250 --> 00:30:26,000
- [Narrator] One of the
first actions of the inmates
638
00:30:26,083 --> 00:30:28,583
in D yard was to release
seriously injured hostages.
639
00:30:28,666 --> 00:30:31,500
At the same time the
inmates asked for
640
00:30:31,583 --> 00:30:33,625
and got medical
supplies and the doctor
641
00:30:33,708 --> 00:30:35,500
for their own casualties.
642
00:30:35,583 --> 00:30:37,750
- [Elizabeth] You know, it's
a violent place, prison.
643
00:30:37,833 --> 00:30:40,208
They did a very good
job, as best they could,
644
00:30:40,291 --> 00:30:41,416
to keep it contained.
645
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:43,500
The Muslims did that
incredible thing
646
00:30:43,583 --> 00:30:45,333
of guarding the hostages.
647
00:30:45,416 --> 00:30:47,208
- [Narrator] By this time
they were under protection
648
00:30:47,291 --> 00:30:49,041
of a Muslim security guard,
649
00:30:49,125 --> 00:30:51,833
protection that would
remain firm for four days.
650
00:30:51,916 --> 00:30:53,416
- [Reporter] Have you
been treated all right?
651
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,208
- Yes, I have so far, I've
been treated very good.
652
00:30:55,291 --> 00:30:59,458
- There was no brutality,
no beating on us
653
00:30:59,541 --> 00:31:01,250
or anything like this.
654
00:31:01,333 --> 00:31:05,750
There were threats yelled at
us from outside the perimeter.
655
00:31:05,833 --> 00:31:08,416
But the security
people that were
656
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:13,500
in charge of keeping us
safe, did a real good job
657
00:31:14,166 --> 00:31:14,208
as far as protecting us.
658
00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:19,875
- [Officer] In the
center of our picture,
659
00:31:19,958 --> 00:31:23,250
is men distributing baseball
bats to the other prisoners.
660
00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:25,125
Time is 2:18 p.m.
661
00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:28,416
- Everybody was
thinking politically
662
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:29,916
because the head of the Muslims
663
00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:34,166
was the murderer of Malcolm X.
664
00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:36,708
He was the chief Iman
at Attica prison.
665
00:31:36,791 --> 00:31:40,041
His name is Thomas
Hagan, Thomas X. Hagan.
666
00:31:40,125 --> 00:31:40,916
And he's the murderer
of Malcolm X.
667
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,208
That's what he did,
he murdered him.
668
00:31:43,291 --> 00:31:48,250
And Thomas, they understood
that they couldn't use Thomas.
669
00:31:49,625 --> 00:31:50,875
So, you know, that
even though he was
670
00:31:50,958 --> 00:31:53,458
the head of the Muslims,
and dealing with everything,
671
00:31:53,541 --> 00:31:55,791
they couldn't put him forward.
672
00:31:55,875 --> 00:31:59,291
So they selected a young
brother named Richard X. Clark,
673
00:31:59,375 --> 00:32:00,583
and he became that person.
674
00:32:01,708 --> 00:32:05,208
And the leaders stood
up, the older people.
675
00:32:05,291 --> 00:32:07,125
Black was older than everybody.
676
00:32:07,208 --> 00:32:09,250
Roger Champen was
older than everybody.
677
00:32:09,333 --> 00:32:12,625
Herbert Blyden was, and
everybody was political,
678
00:32:12,708 --> 00:32:15,333
and they wanted to make a point.
679
00:32:15,416 --> 00:32:17,041
- [Reporter] As far as the
prisoners are concerned,
680
00:32:17,125 --> 00:32:18,416
do they have weapons and such
681
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,125
that they're holding
hostages with?
682
00:32:20,208 --> 00:32:23,125
- Our information is that none
of the prisoners are armed.
683
00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:24,125
However, they are
holding hostages,
684
00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:27,291
I think just by weight
of their sheer strength.
685
00:32:27,375 --> 00:32:29,875
But as far as we're
concerned at this point,
686
00:32:29,958 --> 00:32:31,250
they are not armed.
687
00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:33,125
- [Narrator] Troopers took
firing and observation
positions
688
00:32:33,208 --> 00:32:34,583
on cellblock roofs.
689
00:32:34,666 --> 00:32:37,375
One of them was assigned
a small television camera,
690
00:32:37,458 --> 00:32:39,708
and he recorded what
he saw on videotape.
691
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,583
- [Officer] Time is 1:55 p.m.
692
00:32:42,666 --> 00:32:45,041
We're on the roof of C block,
693
00:32:45,125 --> 00:32:48,708
looking at a detail
of .270 marksman,
694
00:32:48,791 --> 00:32:52,708
with instructions to clear
the catwalks upon command.
695
00:32:53,708 --> 00:32:55,166
- [Narrator] By Friday morning,
696
00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:58,166
the police thought they had
enough men to take the prison.
697
00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:59,833
They chafed at the
delay caused by
698
00:32:59,916 --> 00:33:02,083
Oswald's determination
to negotiate,
699
00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:05,458
and they watched inmates
build defenses and weapons.
700
00:33:05,541 --> 00:33:06,875
- [Officer] More activity
in the central area.
701
00:33:09,708 --> 00:33:12,416
Apparently for further
barricades and such.
702
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,750
- Sergeant Cunningham, now,
would you give us a message
703
00:33:15,833 --> 00:33:18,541
for Governor Nelson Rockefeller.
704
00:33:19,916 --> 00:33:21,291
- I certainly would.
705
00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:24,833
One of the recommendations is,
and if he says no, I'm dead.
706
00:33:24,916 --> 00:33:25,708
- The thing about Rockefeller
707
00:33:25,791 --> 00:33:28,958
is that he knew how to delegate.
708
00:33:29,041 --> 00:33:32,166
And he had delegated Oswald.
709
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:34,625
And Oswald was trying
to be a liberal,
710
00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:37,291
and hear what people had to say.
711
00:33:37,375 --> 00:33:38,791
Mancusi, who was the warden,
712
00:33:38,875 --> 00:33:40,708
would have sent in
and killed everybody.
713
00:33:40,791 --> 00:33:44,541
If it had been at Coxsackie or
somewhere, but Attica's far.
714
00:33:44,625 --> 00:33:46,291
So, by the time they got there,
715
00:33:48,291 --> 00:33:51,000
Oswald had made the
decision to negotiate,
716
00:33:51,083 --> 00:33:53,458
and hadn't called
the troopers in.
717
00:33:53,541 --> 00:33:56,875
And once negotiations,
then the brothers took over
718
00:33:56,958 --> 00:33:59,041
because they already
had their negotiating,
719
00:33:59,125 --> 00:34:02,750
they had this, they at that,
and they had 39 hostages.
720
00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:06,750
But meanwhile, he would go
and say one thing to them
721
00:34:06,833 --> 00:34:08,708
and then say another thing to
the press, and they had TVs.
722
00:34:08,791 --> 00:34:11,416
So they saw and they knew.
723
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,583
- [Narrator] Corrections
Commissioner Russell Oswald
724
00:34:13,666 --> 00:34:15,166
was escorted to a
negotiating table in D yard
725
00:34:15,250 --> 00:34:18,250
where he agreed to an
extensive list of demands
726
00:34:18,333 --> 00:34:20,833
for both immediate
and systemic relief.
727
00:34:20,916 --> 00:34:24,125
- I earlier promised you
there would be no reprisals.
728
00:34:25,416 --> 00:34:26,583
- [Narrator] The
main sticking point
729
00:34:26,666 --> 00:34:28,250
was a demand for amnesty
by the men in the yard,
730
00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:29,958
who were afraid all 1,200
of them would be charged
731
00:34:30,041 --> 00:34:33,833
for the beating death of
officer William Quinn.
732
00:34:33,916 --> 00:34:35,916
Commissioner Oswald did not
believe he had the authority
733
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,666
to grant the amnesty.
734
00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:38,916
Plus, he had demands of his own.
735
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,333
- When will you
release the hostages?
736
00:34:41,416 --> 00:34:46,041
- He expected them to
be grateful to him,
and they weren't.
737
00:34:46,125 --> 00:34:47,416
Hmm-mm.
738
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:51,083
So he did this thing, and
he let negotiators in.
739
00:34:51,166 --> 00:34:53,166
- We urgently demand
immediate negotiations
740
00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:57,250
through William M.
Kunstler, attorney at law,
741
00:34:57,333 --> 00:35:00,083
588 ninth avenue,
New York, New York.
742
00:35:02,208 --> 00:35:05,458
- [Officer] Presently
entering is Bobby Seale.
743
00:35:05,541 --> 00:35:09,708
On the extreme right, as they
walk towards us, our right,
744
00:35:09,791 --> 00:35:12,750
is Professor Schwartz,
Arnold Kunstler,
745
00:35:12,833 --> 00:35:15,625
Bobby Seale in the black coat,
and two of Seale's entourage
746
00:35:15,708 --> 00:35:18,583
on the extreme right.
747
00:35:18,666 --> 00:35:21,833
- [Narrator] By late Friday,
33 observers had arrived.
748
00:35:21,916 --> 00:35:24,208
One was Tom Wicker of
the New York Times.
749
00:35:24,291 --> 00:35:26,333
- We had continuing
discussions from the beginning
750
00:35:26,416 --> 00:35:29,958
as to precisely
what we should do,
751
00:35:30,041 --> 00:35:33,166
what role we should be
playing,
were we to view ourselves
752
00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:35,500
as representatives
of the prisoners?
753
00:35:35,583 --> 00:35:38,541
Were we view ourselves as
representatives of the state?
754
00:35:38,625 --> 00:35:42,583
Were we purely
neutral go-betweens?
755
00:35:42,666 --> 00:35:47,500
Were we in fact negotiators?
756
00:35:49,083 --> 00:35:51,041
Events soon settled that.
We had to be, more or less.
757
00:35:51,125 --> 00:35:53,958
- And then when the
negotiators came,
758
00:35:54,041 --> 00:35:56,750
you had all those flamboyancy.
759
00:35:56,833 --> 00:36:00,500
And you had flamboyancy
number 101, right?
760
00:36:00,583 --> 00:36:01,958
And he was Mr. Press.
761
00:36:02,041 --> 00:36:03,833
He understood how to
deal with the press
762
00:36:03,916 --> 00:36:06,833
better than anybody I ever saw.
763
00:36:06,916 --> 00:36:11,208
- You gotta negotiate
for an amnesty.
764
00:36:11,291 --> 00:36:14,333
But that means you have to
sit down and have to work out
765
00:36:14,416 --> 00:36:15,916
a real amnesty.
766
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,416
- He was a German Jew.
767
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,208
His father was a doctor, his
grandfather was a doctor.
768
00:36:21,291 --> 00:36:22,458
Everybody were doctors.
769
00:36:22,541 --> 00:36:27,166
He went to Yale, came in
second.
He was second in his class.
770
00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:31,541
Then he went into the
Army and he was a major.
771
00:36:31,625 --> 00:36:35,375
And he was in the Army
of occupation in Japan.
772
00:36:35,458 --> 00:36:37,541
He went back to
Columbia Law School
773
00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:39,000
and he was in the same class
774
00:36:39,083 --> 00:36:41,833
of all these famous
people together.
775
00:36:41,916 --> 00:36:45,666
And became an estates lawyer.
776
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:49,625
And he was a liberal. He
was a member of the NAACP.
777
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,583
And it was like '58,
778
00:36:53,666 --> 00:36:56,083
and he was going to
Jackson, Mississippi.
779
00:36:56,166 --> 00:36:58,750
And he became a
civil rights lawyer.
780
00:36:58,833 --> 00:37:01,500
And mostly became Martin
Luther King's lawyer.
781
00:37:01,583 --> 00:37:05,416
So, you had Bill Kunstler
and Herman Badillo
782
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:08,791
and all these people,
and it became a scene.
783
00:37:08,875 --> 00:37:12,083
- [Reporter] Why did the
inmates ask for you people?
784
00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:16,750
Why are they asking for the
Huey Newtons, Herman Badillos,
785
00:37:16,833 --> 00:37:18,000
Reverend Wyatt Tee Walker.
786
00:37:18,083 --> 00:37:19,291
Why are they doing that?
787
00:37:19,375 --> 00:37:23,416
- They want to be just,
they want to be assured
788
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:25,708
that if there is an agreement
789
00:37:25,791 --> 00:37:27,458
that the agreement will be kept.
790
00:37:27,541 --> 00:37:30,916
They want to be assured
that there is some mechanism
791
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,791
for enforcing whatever changes
exist in the regulations.
792
00:37:34,875 --> 00:37:37,708
And I think it's a wise idea.
793
00:37:37,791 --> 00:37:39,375
- Power, unity!
794
00:37:39,458 --> 00:37:41,958
- [Narrator] There were
close to 1,300 men in D yard.
795
00:37:42,041 --> 00:37:44,250
More than half of those
interviewed told the Commission
796
00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:46,166
they had not wanted to be
there, but couldn't leave.
797
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:49,208
Inmates made rules
against using drugs,
798
00:37:49,291 --> 00:37:51,625
fighting, and
homosexual relations.
799
00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:54,416
Some of them built defenses
or looked for food and fuel,
800
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:55,916
but a large number,
probably the majority,
801
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,291
hung back and did nothing.
802
00:37:58,375 --> 00:38:00,083
Most of them lined up
twice a day for mess call.
803
00:38:00,166 --> 00:38:01,791
- [Reporter] How
do the inmates feel
804
00:38:01,875 --> 00:38:03,208
about the current situation?
805
00:38:04,791 --> 00:38:07,291
- A group of us were
in with the inmates,
806
00:38:07,375 --> 00:38:11,333
we met with them,
we had 2 1/2 hours.
807
00:38:11,416 --> 00:38:12,958
Some of the people are here.
808
00:38:13,041 --> 00:38:14,666
But we really have
nothing to say about it,
809
00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:18,416
except they are firm in
their demands, and that's it.
810
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,000
- It was Bill's finest hour,
Kunstler, in some ways,
811
00:38:21,083 --> 00:38:23,833
and one of his stupidest.
812
00:38:23,916 --> 00:38:26,666
No one told the Attica Brothers
813
00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:28,875
that they were
gonna be murdered.
814
00:38:28,958 --> 00:38:31,000
They didn't tell them
that there were all these
815
00:38:31,083 --> 00:38:34,750
crazy white people outside,
filled with race hate,
816
00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:37,333
and all of them are gonna
be armed to the teeth.
817
00:38:37,416 --> 00:38:39,041
And there's no question
that they're gonna
818
00:38:39,125 --> 00:38:40,416
blow you people away.
819
00:38:42,958 --> 00:38:45,375
- [Officer] Time is
8:10, September 10th.
820
00:38:46,583 --> 00:38:48,041
- [Narrator] As
negotiations stalled,
821
00:38:48,125 --> 00:38:50,500
Governor Rockefeller decided
to rely on the exhausted
822
00:38:50,583 --> 00:38:52,833
and increasingly
agitated state troopers,
823
00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:55,458
who'd been taking shifts
waiting outside the prison
walls
824
00:38:55,541 --> 00:38:56,958
for three days.
825
00:38:57,041 --> 00:38:59,166
- [Elizabeth] It
was cold up there.
826
00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:00,833
They could've worked
something out.
827
00:39:00,916 --> 00:39:02,125
They didn't have to
murder people that way,
828
00:39:02,208 --> 00:39:03,666
but they wanted to.
829
00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:07,958
They wanted people to see
what happens when you rebel.
830
00:39:09,041 --> 00:39:11,250
You know, that they were
prepared to kill you,
831
00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:13,708
and not only kill
you, but kill anybody.
832
00:39:13,791 --> 00:39:15,791
All those white people,
they were fodder.
833
00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:19,458
- [Narrator] You said
earlier that you think
834
00:39:19,541 --> 00:39:20,875
the warden would have
done that (snaps) day one.
835
00:39:20,958 --> 00:39:22,083
- Yeah, they did too.
836
00:39:22,166 --> 00:39:23,666
- [Narrator] Do you
think Rockefeller
837
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:26,958
would have done that day one
if he would've had the choice?
838
00:39:27,041 --> 00:39:28,583
- The Rockefeller thing,
he was just horrified
839
00:39:28,666 --> 00:39:33,416
that these people thought they
had any right to oppose him.
840
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:37,041
And that's one of the main
reasons why he killed them
all,
841
00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:39,791
just like his father
did, in Ludlow.
842
00:39:41,583 --> 00:39:44,833
(somber haunting music)
843
00:39:57,666 --> 00:39:58,708
I mean, who were you?
844
00:39:58,791 --> 00:40:00,208
You're scum. I'll show you.
845
00:40:00,291 --> 00:40:01,458
I have all the power.
846
00:40:02,666 --> 00:40:03,458
The cities had blown up.
847
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:08,083
And they wanted to show
everybody what happened.
848
00:40:08,166 --> 00:40:10,041
"You think we're not
gonna blow you away?"
849
00:40:10,125 --> 00:40:12,333
I mean, Black didn't think
they were gonna shoot.
850
00:40:12,416 --> 00:40:14,583
He thought that they
were gonna come down
851
00:40:14,666 --> 00:40:17,833
and bust some heads
and fuck everybody up,
852
00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:18,916
and that would be it.
853
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,958
And that is what the
National Guard wanted to do.
854
00:40:23,041 --> 00:40:24,208
That's exactly what
they wanted to do.
855
00:40:24,291 --> 00:40:27,291
They wanted to come
out of a helicopter,
856
00:40:27,375 --> 00:40:31,291
come into the middle of the
yard, have them gas everybody,
857
00:40:31,375 --> 00:40:32,916
and take over the yard.
858
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,458
They thought that they
could do whatever,
859
00:40:34,541 --> 00:40:35,958
and they weren't allowed to.
860
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:39,458
- [Officer] These are some
reinforcements coming in now.
861
00:40:39,541 --> 00:40:43,000
- [Elizabeth] Here you have
a captain in the state police
862
00:40:43,083 --> 00:40:47,416
who runs a barracks
in Batavia, New York.
863
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:48,541
The only thing they do up
there is run up and down
864
00:40:48,625 --> 00:40:52,083
the highway and arrest
people for driving.
865
00:40:52,166 --> 00:40:53,000
- [Narrator] A principle
task of the state police
866
00:40:53,083 --> 00:40:54,416
is highway patrol.
867
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:58,791
They are not ordinarily
assigned to military
operations.
868
00:40:58,875 --> 00:40:59,666
- All right, go right
around to the supply truck
869
00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:02,083
and pick up the
shotguns and rifles.
870
00:41:02,166 --> 00:41:03,666
- [Man] On the double, let's go.
871
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:05,708
- [Elizabeth] I mean, they
understood what the climate
was.
872
00:41:05,791 --> 00:41:10,291
- It's a situation in
which lives are at stake.
873
00:41:10,375 --> 00:41:13,791
And my own personal opinion
is that if lives are at stake
874
00:41:13,875 --> 00:41:16,500
and have any meaning to
anybody, that there oughta be
875
00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:19,000
a serious reconsideration
by the state.
876
00:41:19,083 --> 00:41:20,166
If the state takes the position
877
00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:22,250
that the guards'
lives are expendable,
878
00:41:22,333 --> 00:41:25,250
then the state is going to
cause the murder of many people.
879
00:41:26,583 --> 00:41:29,458
- [Elizabeth] Anybody would
know what was gonna happen.
880
00:41:29,541 --> 00:41:32,000
Those people were crazed.
881
00:41:32,083 --> 00:41:33,875
All they did was sit
around the prison.
882
00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:35,333
They had nothing to do.
883
00:41:35,416 --> 00:41:37,666
There was no discipline,
and they were all lied to.
884
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:39,375
- There has been some
of the prison personnel
885
00:41:39,458 --> 00:41:41,666
severely injured
here this morning.
886
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:45,541
And we certainly don't wanna
see any of our people hurt.
887
00:41:45,625 --> 00:41:48,416
- [Elizabeth] So there
it is, right there.
888
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:50,083
Everything he said was a lie.
889
00:41:51,458 --> 00:41:53,666
They knew full well that
there was no one injured,
890
00:41:54,875 --> 00:41:56,333
and that they were lying.
891
00:41:56,416 --> 00:41:57,583
The meet force, they
knew no one had a gun.
892
00:42:00,125 --> 00:42:01,541
- Your instructions are
893
00:42:01,625 --> 00:42:04,041
that your weapon
is not to be taken
894
00:42:04,125 --> 00:42:06,208
nor are you to be taken.
895
00:42:07,291 --> 00:42:08,625
- [Elizabeth] They
chose the state police,
896
00:42:08,708 --> 00:42:10,833
even though the National Guard
knew what they were doing,
897
00:42:10,916 --> 00:42:11,583
and the state
police had no clue.
898
00:42:13,958 --> 00:42:15,041
- [Officer] The
hostages are on catwalks
899
00:42:15,125 --> 00:42:18,166
with knives at their throat.
900
00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:26,750
- [Officer] Time is 9:45 a.m.
901
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,750
(gunshots popping)
902
00:43:05,708 --> 00:43:09,458
- [Elizabeth] This was
a wholesale murder.
903
00:43:09,541 --> 00:43:10,583
Attica took it to
a different level.
904
00:43:12,708 --> 00:43:15,708
(helicopters buzzing)
905
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,083
The head of the state
police was on vacation
906
00:43:32,166 --> 00:43:33,833
in Bolton's Landing, New York.
907
00:43:33,916 --> 00:43:37,041
So there was absolutely no
reason for him to be there
908
00:43:37,125 --> 00:43:39,958
other than to keep himself
away from this shit.
909
00:43:40,041 --> 00:43:42,958
He wasn't in Europe, he
was in Bolton's Landing.
910
00:43:43,041 --> 00:43:44,583
(helicopter whirring)
911
00:43:48,916 --> 00:43:53,000
They all had gas masks, and
there was no way to communicate
912
00:43:53,083 --> 00:43:54,750
through the gas masks.
913
00:43:54,833 --> 00:43:57,083
There's this incredible
testimony from the
second in command
914
00:43:57,166 --> 00:43:59,666
of the state police.
915
00:43:59,750 --> 00:44:03,625
This guy was a moron, and he
comes out onto the catwalks
916
00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:06,458
and they're shooting,
917
00:44:06,541 --> 00:44:08,291
and there's no reason for
anybody to shoot anybody.
918
00:44:08,375 --> 00:44:09,708
And he's running up and
down trying to get people
919
00:44:09,791 --> 00:44:13,333
to stop shooting, but
there's no way to communicate
920
00:44:13,416 --> 00:44:14,875
because no one could
talk to each other
921
00:44:14,958 --> 00:44:16,458
'cause they have gas masks on.
922
00:44:19,041 --> 00:44:21,500
- [Officer] The hostages
can't be seen now.
923
00:44:21,583 --> 00:44:24,666
- [Elizabeth] I mean,
they did everything wrong.
924
00:44:24,750 --> 00:44:29,666
(gunshots popping)
(deep somber music)
925
00:44:43,916 --> 00:44:47,500
They were all in a hostage
circle in the middle,
926
00:44:47,583 --> 00:44:51,083
and someone began to
run during the assault,
927
00:44:51,166 --> 00:44:55,666
and they all turned and fired
at him with their shotguns,
928
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:56,791
filled with
double-aught buckshot,
929
00:44:56,875 --> 00:44:59,541
with an indiscriminate
spread of 50 yards.
930
00:45:01,583 --> 00:45:02,666
And that's why they
killed all the hostages.
931
00:45:07,416 --> 00:45:09,166
They didn't register
any firearms.
932
00:45:09,250 --> 00:45:12,291
They told everybody to put
tape over their name tags
933
00:45:12,375 --> 00:45:13,375
so you couldn't tell
who was shooting.
934
00:45:13,458 --> 00:45:16,291
They told people to fight back.
935
00:45:16,375 --> 00:45:20,125
And they told blah, blah, blah.
936
00:45:20,208 --> 00:45:22,500
What they wanted
was what they got.
937
00:45:22,583 --> 00:45:24,916
I mean, the best thing
you could call it
938
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,375
is depraved indifference
for human life,
939
00:45:27,458 --> 00:45:28,666
but it was more than that.
940
00:45:30,333 --> 00:45:32,541
4,500 rounds of ammunition.
941
00:45:33,666 --> 00:45:36,041
Can you imagine?
Nobody had a gun.
942
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:39,375
(gunshots blasting)
943
00:45:39,458 --> 00:45:41,750
None of them had guns.
944
00:45:42,541 --> 00:45:45,833
That's lot of people, 39 people.
945
00:45:52,041 --> 00:45:54,041
- [Elizabeth] No one
ever saw anybody resist.
946
00:45:54,125 --> 00:45:56,541
Nobody resisted. One
person, Tommy Hicks.
947
00:45:56,625 --> 00:45:58,916
They beat him to a pulp and
killed him, right there.
948
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,791
Gregory Wildridge fired
10 rounds of his shotgun.
949
00:46:01,875 --> 00:46:05,625
And when he was asked
why he fired those shots,
950
00:46:05,708 --> 00:46:08,291
he gives some absolute
lying justification
951
00:46:08,375 --> 00:46:10,208
for the first four.
952
00:46:10,291 --> 00:46:11,500
And the remaining six,
953
00:46:11,583 --> 00:46:15,291
his reason for firing them
was quote, verbatim, quote
954
00:46:15,375 --> 00:46:16,625
"To keep up the noise."
955
00:46:20,916 --> 00:46:25,250
(helicopter fluttering)
(slow somber music)
956
00:46:25,333 --> 00:46:27,708
- [Elizabeth] Aldo Barbolini
was a state trooper,
957
00:46:27,791 --> 00:46:31,458
and he killed Kenny Malloy
in cold blood with a pistol,
958
00:46:31,541 --> 00:46:31,708
with a handgun.
959
00:46:34,333 --> 00:46:36,375
You look at the pictures,
they speak for themselves.
960
00:46:36,458 --> 00:46:38,333
He blew his face apart.
961
00:46:38,416 --> 00:46:42,083
And what he did was
witnessed by Gerard L. Smith,
962
00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:43,625
who testified about it.
963
00:46:43,708 --> 00:46:47,666
So Barbolini killed Kenny
Malloy and he killed Robinson.
964
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:51,416
And he had a weapon that he
had brought himself, a
shotgun.
965
00:46:52,583 --> 00:46:56,833
And he went back
to his commander
966
00:46:56,916 --> 00:46:57,750
and he handed him the shotgun.
967
00:46:57,833 --> 00:47:00,458
He says, "I took
this off an inmate."
968
00:47:00,541 --> 00:47:02,791
They knew that he
was a goddamn liar,
969
00:47:05,666 --> 00:47:08,291
and that the weapon, it did
not come from an inmate.
970
00:47:08,375 --> 00:47:09,750
He had brought it himself,
971
00:47:09,833 --> 00:47:12,166
and that he had murdered these
two people in cold blood.
972
00:47:13,541 --> 00:47:15,666
And did they arrest
him for murder? No.
973
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:18,625
What did they do?
They let him retire.
974
00:47:20,083 --> 00:47:23,125
So, that's Aldo Barbolini.
975
00:47:23,208 --> 00:47:26,833
Clore and Virgamini, they
were sent in by the warden
976
00:47:26,916 --> 00:47:27,666
of Auburn Correctional Facility,
977
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:31,666
Robert J. Henderson,
a swell guy.
978
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:33,708
They killed D'Archangelo.
979
00:47:33,791 --> 00:47:35,208
They killed Monteleone,
980
00:47:35,291 --> 00:47:38,000
who were the two guys who
were killed on the catwalks.
981
00:47:38,083 --> 00:47:39,750
- [Man Over Speaker]
Surrender peacefully.
982
00:47:39,833 --> 00:47:41,916
You will not be harmed.
983
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,250
(helicopter fluttering)
984
00:47:53,791 --> 00:47:56,041
- [Elizabeth] Santiago
Santos clearly,
985
00:47:56,125 --> 00:47:58,041
was following the instructions
986
00:47:58,125 --> 00:47:59,666
that were given
from the helicopter.
987
00:47:59,750 --> 00:48:02,583
He had his hands over
his head like this,
988
00:48:02,666 --> 00:48:04,583
and he was walking to
the nearest trooper.
989
00:48:04,666 --> 00:48:05,791
And what happened?
990
00:48:05,875 --> 00:48:08,791
He got murdered. He
got shot and killed.
991
00:48:08,875 --> 00:48:11,833
And so when he fell, he fell
with his hands over his head.
992
00:48:11,916 --> 00:48:13,916
Now, that didn't
look good to them.
993
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,958
Before rigor sets in clearly,
994
00:48:16,041 --> 00:48:20,583
so that's like two, three
hours before rigor comes in,
995
00:48:20,666 --> 00:48:22,666
they move his hand and
they put a scissor.
996
00:48:22,750 --> 00:48:24,916
So you think like, he's
reaching for a scissor. Great.
997
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,583
- [Man Over Speaker]
Surrender peacefully.
998
00:48:27,666 --> 00:48:30,041
You will not be harmed.
999
00:48:30,125 --> 00:48:33,041
- [Elizabeth] And then,
there's Kenny Robinson,
1000
00:48:33,125 --> 00:48:36,250
who's shot without a weapon.
1001
00:48:36,333 --> 00:48:37,583
There's nothing near him.
1002
00:48:37,666 --> 00:48:39,583
He was clearly sitting
on this big old seat,
1003
00:48:39,666 --> 00:48:40,833
and they shot him and it fell,
1004
00:48:40,916 --> 00:48:42,666
he fell, it fell over him.
1005
00:48:42,750 --> 00:48:44,958
And the next thing you
know, he's got a big sword.
1006
00:48:45,041 --> 00:48:48,125
- [Man Over Speaker]
You will not be harmed.
1007
00:48:48,208 --> 00:48:50,916
Clasp your hands
on top of your head
1008
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,916
and move to the outside
of the D block corridor.
1009
00:48:56,375 --> 00:48:57,791
- The action now under way,
1010
00:48:59,083 --> 00:49:01,291
was initiated with
extreme reluctance,
1011
00:49:02,541 --> 00:49:06,333
only after all
attempts to achieve
1012
00:49:06,416 --> 00:49:08,291
a peaceful solution failed.
1013
00:49:10,333 --> 00:49:11,791
To delay the action any longer
1014
00:49:13,208 --> 00:49:15,375
would not only jeopardize
innocent lives,
1015
00:49:16,583 --> 00:49:18,375
but would threatened
the security
1016
00:49:18,458 --> 00:49:21,416
of the entire correctional
system of this state.
1017
00:49:23,166 --> 00:49:25,958
(slow somber music)
1018
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:40,958
- [Narrator] The assault on
Attica lasted six minutes
1019
00:49:41,041 --> 00:49:44,625
and took the lives of
39 inmates and hostages.
1020
00:49:44,708 --> 00:49:49,666
- [Elizabeth] This is all
only for the hostages.
1021
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:52,791
They had an ambulance
for every hostage,
1022
00:49:52,875 --> 00:49:56,750
and they had nothing,
nothing for the prisoners.
1023
00:49:58,583 --> 00:50:03,166
Dr. Michael M. Baden,
chief pathologist
1024
00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:07,708
of the New York State Police,
who conducted the autopsies,
1025
00:50:07,791 --> 00:50:10,750
come in and testified
that if there had been
1026
00:50:10,833 --> 00:50:13,875
proper medical care at least
eight people could have lived.
1027
00:50:13,958 --> 00:50:18,250
I think it's 10, including,
but
not limited to Sam Melville.
1028
00:50:18,333 --> 00:50:20,833
He was shot by Vincent
Tobia, who was a member
1029
00:50:20,916 --> 00:50:22,708
of the bureau of
criminal investigation
1030
00:50:22,791 --> 00:50:23,958
in the New York State Police,
1031
00:50:24,041 --> 00:50:28,750
in the same place that
L.D. Barkley was shot.
1032
00:50:28,833 --> 00:50:30,958
Collapsed his lung
and he bled to death.
1033
00:50:31,041 --> 00:50:32,416
- We are men.
1034
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:35,041
We are not beasts, and we
do not intend to be driven
1035
00:50:35,125 --> 00:50:37,250
or beaten as such.
1036
00:50:37,333 --> 00:50:39,666
- [Elizabeth] He was
19, and he was in Attica
1037
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:42,166
for a probation
violation for joyriding.
1038
00:50:43,291 --> 00:50:45,916
- If they had only
waited till today,
1039
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,750
there would be now 40
or 41 people still alive
1040
00:50:50,833 --> 00:50:52,291
in this universe of ours.
1041
00:50:52,375 --> 00:50:56,166
They would not wait because
these men were expendable.
1042
00:50:56,250 --> 00:51:00,208
Guards, prisoners had no
meaning in the scheme of things
1043
00:51:00,291 --> 00:51:01,166
of our white totalitarian world.
1044
00:51:01,250 --> 00:51:03,250
- [Reporter] How did
they kill the hostages--
1045
00:51:03,333 --> 00:51:04,458
- [Man] Let him finish.
1046
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:10,333
- Well, several had
their throat slashed.
1047
00:51:11,875 --> 00:51:13,083
I don't have all
the details on it.
1048
00:51:13,166 --> 00:51:15,500
I understand one had a chest
wound that he died from.
1049
00:51:15,583 --> 00:51:17,791
And, I don't have
all of those details.
1050
00:51:17,875 --> 00:51:20,416
- When you read the front
page of the New York Times,
1051
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:22,291
it's a scream, it is.
1052
00:51:22,375 --> 00:51:26,458
I mean, they have 'em fighting
hand by hand in the blocks,
1053
00:51:26,541 --> 00:51:27,458
for four hours.
1054
00:51:29,375 --> 00:51:30,750
(Elizabeth sighs)
1055
00:51:30,833 --> 00:51:32,458
- [Narrator] The press
accepted Houlihan's report
1056
00:51:32,541 --> 00:51:33,708
of slashed throats,
but the next day
1057
00:51:33,791 --> 00:51:37,375
County Medical Examiner John
Edland announced the truth.
1058
00:51:38,833 --> 00:51:42,041
- The first eight
autopsies were on the cases
1059
00:51:42,125 --> 00:51:44,458
identified to us as hostages.
1060
00:51:46,041 --> 00:51:51,083
All eight cases died
of gunshot wounds.
1061
00:51:51,166 --> 00:51:54,375
- He was this conservative
Republican, and he was a
doctor.
1062
00:51:54,458 --> 00:51:57,500
So, they brought all
these bodies to him,
1063
00:51:57,583 --> 00:51:59,833
and he says, "Oh
these were all shot,"
1064
00:51:59,916 --> 00:52:02,666
right, nobody's, what're
you talking about?"
1065
00:52:02,750 --> 00:52:05,916
- There was no evidence
of slashed throats.
1066
00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:10,791
There was one single cut in
the back of one of the necks.
1067
00:52:10,875 --> 00:52:12,708
- And, they totally attacked him
1068
00:52:12,791 --> 00:52:14,666
and destroyed him, actually.
1069
00:52:14,750 --> 00:52:16,333
They totally tortured him.
1070
00:52:16,416 --> 00:52:17,833
Wouldn't let him drive the car.
1071
00:52:17,916 --> 00:52:21,000
They were pulling him
over, the whole nine yards.
1072
00:52:21,083 --> 00:52:22,958
- When the autopsy
record was complete,
1073
00:52:23,041 --> 00:52:24,666
it became known that
all the dead hostages
1074
00:52:24,750 --> 00:52:27,041
were killed or fatally
wounded by shots fired
1075
00:52:27,125 --> 00:52:29,250
by the assault forces.
1076
00:52:29,333 --> 00:52:31,875
No hostage was castrated
or sexually molested.
1077
00:52:33,208 --> 00:52:34,958
There were no safeguards to
minimize the risk of injury
1078
00:52:35,041 --> 00:52:38,500
to hostages and to un-involved
and unresisting inmates.
1079
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:40,958
While the warnings against
indiscriminate fire were
issued,
1080
00:52:41,041 --> 00:52:44,000
the plan allowed
individual troopers
1081
00:52:44,083 --> 00:52:46,708
to use their own discretion
about firing their weapons.
1082
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,041
Many troopers carried
shotguns with ammunition
1083
00:52:50,125 --> 00:52:52,125
that scattered lethal pellets
1084
00:52:52,208 --> 00:52:53,375
in such a way that
unintended targets
1085
00:52:53,458 --> 00:52:56,541
would almost certainly be
hit when troopers fired
1086
00:52:56,625 --> 00:53:00,375
into the crowded,
confined space of D yard.
1087
00:53:00,458 --> 00:53:03,333
(slow haunting music)
1088
00:53:06,958 --> 00:53:09,416
- [Woman] I have Governor
Rockefeller for you, sir.
1089
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:10,708
- Hello?
- There you are.
1090
00:53:10,791 --> 00:53:11,458
- [Rockefeller] Mr. President.
1091
00:53:17,333 --> 00:53:18,708
for the courage you
showed and the judgment
1092
00:53:18,791 --> 00:53:21,125
in not granting amnesty.
1093
00:53:21,208 --> 00:53:23,500
It was right, and I don't
care what the hell the papers
1094
00:53:23,583 --> 00:53:25,083
or anybody else says.
1095
00:53:26,541 --> 00:53:27,708
I don't care what they say,
1096
00:53:27,791 --> 00:53:29,791
I think that you had
to do it that way,
1097
00:53:29,875 --> 00:53:33,041
because if you would've
granted amnesty in this case,
1098
00:53:33,125 --> 00:53:34,250
it would have meant that
you would've had prisons
1099
00:53:34,333 --> 00:53:36,750
in an uproar all
over this country.
1100
00:53:36,833 --> 00:53:37,666
- [Rockefeller] That's right.
1101
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:38,916
- [Nixon] And you
did the right thing.
1102
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,125
It's a tragedy that these
poor fellas were shot,
1103
00:53:41,208 --> 00:53:43,333
but I just want you to
know that's my view.
1104
00:53:43,416 --> 00:53:44,916
And I've told the
troops around here
1105
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,083
they're to back that
right to the hilt.
1106
00:53:46,166 --> 00:53:48,000
- [Rockefeller] Well, aren't
you great, Mr. President.
1107
00:53:48,083 --> 00:53:50,791
I only called you because
I wanted to alert you
1108
00:53:50,875 --> 00:53:51,666
that we were going in.
1109
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:53,916
- Right.
- And when we went in,
1110
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,666
we couldn't tell whether all
39 hostages would be killed
1111
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:59,250
and maybe two or 300 prisoners.
1112
00:53:59,333 --> 00:54:02,541
And that's a pretty
big, you know.
1113
00:54:02,625 --> 00:54:03,458
- [Nixon] Yeah, mm-hmm.
1114
00:54:06,333 --> 00:54:07,958
- [Nixon] How many, I only
got the report this morning.
1115
00:54:08,041 --> 00:54:11,083
What is the latest report?
1116
00:54:11,166 --> 00:54:12,291
How many people--
1117
00:54:12,375 --> 00:54:13,541
- [Rockefeller] Seven
hostages were killed.
1118
00:54:13,625 --> 00:54:14,916
- [Nixon] Seven
hostages were killed?
1119
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,791
- [Rockefeller] Yes,
these were the guards.
1120
00:54:15,875 --> 00:54:17,416
- [Nixon] Those
were guards, seven.
1121
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:18,958
- [Rockefeller] It appears
now, Mr. President,
1122
00:54:19,041 --> 00:54:21,166
as though quite a few of those
were killed prior to this.
1123
00:54:21,250 --> 00:54:25,125
In other words, that
they'd been dead.
1124
00:54:26,791 --> 00:54:27,958
- [Rockefeller] The hospital.
1125
00:54:28,041 --> 00:54:28,791
- [Nixon] The hospital
can prove that.
1126
00:54:28,875 --> 00:54:30,083
- [Rockefeller] Oh yes.
1127
00:54:30,166 --> 00:54:31,875
- [Nixon] They can find
out how long a guy's dead.
1128
00:54:31,958 --> 00:54:34,041
- [Rockefeller] That's right
and it's a Catholic hospital,
1129
00:54:34,125 --> 00:54:35,125
so it's outside of
our jurisdiction.
1130
00:54:35,208 --> 00:54:38,458
- [Nixon] Right, tell
me this, is this a,
1131
00:54:38,541 --> 00:54:41,125
are these primarily Blacks
that you're dealing with?
1132
00:54:41,208 --> 00:54:42,625
- [Rockefeller] Oh
yes, the whole thing
1133
00:54:42,708 --> 00:54:44,083
was led by the Blacks.
1134
00:54:44,166 --> 00:54:45,291
- [Nixon] I'll be darned.
1135
00:54:45,375 --> 00:54:46,916
Are all the prisoners
that were killed Blacks?
1136
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,791
Are there any whites?
1137
00:54:48,875 --> 00:54:50,125
- [Rockefeller] I
haven't got that report,
1138
00:54:50,208 --> 00:54:53,541
but I have to, I would
say just offhand, yes.
1139
00:54:53,625 --> 00:54:54,208
- [Nixon] Yeah.
1140
00:54:55,083 --> 00:54:57,291
- [Rockefeller] We did it though
1141
00:54:57,375 --> 00:55:00,166
only when they were in the
process of murdering the
guards,
1142
00:55:00,250 --> 00:55:03,541
or when they were
attacking our people
1143
00:55:03,625 --> 00:55:05,541
as they came in
to get the guards.
1144
00:55:05,625 --> 00:55:06,708
- [Nixon] You had to do it.
1145
00:55:06,791 --> 00:55:07,958
- [Rockefeller] And
otherwise we recaptured
1146
00:55:08,041 --> 00:55:12,166
all the cell blocks and so
forth without shooting a
shot,
1147
00:55:12,250 --> 00:55:15,791
and no troopers were wounded.
1148
00:55:15,875 --> 00:55:17,833
One of them, well, one
of them was in the leg.
1149
00:55:17,916 --> 00:55:19,041
- [Nixon] Uh-huh, uh-huh.
1150
00:55:19,125 --> 00:55:20,625
Only one trooper
was wounded, good.
1151
00:55:20,708 --> 00:55:22,125
Good, good, good.
- That's right.
1152
00:55:22,208 --> 00:55:23,416
It really was a
beautiful operation.
1153
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:25,208
- [Nixon] Well they
must've really been,
1154
00:55:25,291 --> 00:55:29,083
I would, I, you, you,
you can certainly
1155
00:55:29,166 --> 00:55:32,833
tell your people there,
whoever they are,
1156
00:55:32,916 --> 00:55:35,125
your other troopers, that I
have great admiration for
that.
1157
00:55:35,208 --> 00:55:37,375
That's an efficient operation.
1158
00:55:37,458 --> 00:55:38,375
- [Rockefeller] Well that's
wonderful of you to say.
1159
00:55:38,458 --> 00:55:39,666
- [Nixon] Well, we back 'em up.
1160
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:41,916
Now, by golly, we're not
gonna have any of that.
1161
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,708
We just can not tolerate
this kind of anarchy.
1162
00:55:56,375 --> 00:55:57,833
- [Narrator] As soon as
the shooting stopped,
1163
00:55:57,916 --> 00:55:59,375
every surviving inmate
was forced to crawl across
1164
00:55:59,458 --> 00:56:02,541
the muddy ground into
the middle of the yard.
1165
00:56:02,625 --> 00:56:04,541
They were stripped naked
and funneled one by one
1166
00:56:04,625 --> 00:56:06,375
into the cell blocks,
where they were beaten
1167
00:56:06,458 --> 00:56:09,541
by a gauntlet of state police
troopers and prison guards.
1168
00:56:11,875 --> 00:56:14,375
Big Black was described as
a leader of the rebellion,
1169
00:56:14,458 --> 00:56:17,208
despite his role
protecting the hostages.
1170
00:56:17,291 --> 00:56:19,416
He was singled out and
tortured for hours,
1171
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:20,916
receiving injuries
that would haunt him
1172
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,333
for the rest of his life.
1173
00:56:24,250 --> 00:56:26,375
- [Narrator] For the
surviving hostages,
1174
00:56:26,458 --> 00:56:27,833
the ordeal was over.
1175
00:56:27,916 --> 00:56:29,625
For the inmates, another
ordeal was beginning.
1176
00:56:29,708 --> 00:56:32,500
The assault reduced the
D yard world to wreckage,
1177
00:56:32,583 --> 00:56:35,416
and inmates had lost
any ground they gained
1178
00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:37,375
at the negotiation table.
1179
00:56:37,458 --> 00:56:39,708
Whether they took part in
the insurrection or not,
1180
00:56:39,791 --> 00:56:42,833
the inmates faced correction
officers and state troopers,
1181
00:56:42,916 --> 00:56:44,125
many of them
anxious for revenge.
1182
00:56:44,208 --> 00:56:47,208
Medics were among
the first outsiders
1183
00:56:47,291 --> 00:56:49,083
to reach the wrecked yard.
1184
00:56:49,166 --> 00:56:51,208
Major John Cudmore and his
men watched what happened
1185
00:56:51,291 --> 00:56:53,416
to inmates after the
shooting stopped.
1186
00:56:55,708 --> 00:56:58,083
- They were in a position
of having surrendered,
1187
00:56:58,166 --> 00:57:01,333
hands-on-head, were coming
down and were very forcefully
1188
00:57:01,416 --> 00:57:04,833
being forced down the steps.
1189
00:57:06,083 --> 00:57:10,208
Were forced to lie down
and low crawl across there.
1190
00:57:10,291 --> 00:57:13,666
Apparently the method employed
to get them to lie down
1191
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:16,958
was to hit them with a
club across the knees,
1192
00:57:17,041 --> 00:57:20,166
or in several instances,
not too disguised attempts
1193
00:57:20,250 --> 00:57:22,125
to hit them in the
genitalia was made.
1194
00:57:22,208 --> 00:57:23,666
- You had those personnel there
1195
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:26,916
from the heartlands of America
with a very difficult job,
1196
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:27,958
with inadequate training,
1197
00:57:28,041 --> 00:57:30,208
and in the light of
what happened in there,
1198
00:57:30,291 --> 00:57:33,583
their knowing that their
brother employees were in
there,
1199
00:57:33,666 --> 00:57:37,791
and their lives have been
threatened continuously,
1200
00:57:37,875 --> 00:57:39,250
they knew some of
'em were injured.
1201
00:57:39,333 --> 00:57:42,375
Of course, it's human
and understandable
1202
00:57:42,458 --> 00:57:44,666
that they were under
grave stress and anxious,
1203
00:57:44,750 --> 00:57:46,125
and had strong
feelings about it, sir.
1204
00:57:46,208 --> 00:57:47,166
This is only reality.
1205
00:57:47,250 --> 00:57:51,083
- As an administrator
in this field,
1206
00:57:52,416 --> 00:57:56,625
had there been a history after
these prison disturbances
1207
00:57:56,708 --> 00:57:59,625
of officers losing self-control
1208
00:57:59,708 --> 00:58:00,750
and taking it out on inmates?
1209
00:58:00,833 --> 00:58:03,541
- This is a concern, a
common concern and problem.
1210
00:58:03,625 --> 00:58:06,750
- Although officials were
aware that high emotions
1211
00:58:06,833 --> 00:58:08,291
among troopers and
correction officers
1212
00:58:08,375 --> 00:58:10,666
might result in unnecessary
violence to the inmates
1213
00:58:10,750 --> 00:58:12,625
during and after the assault,
1214
00:58:14,166 --> 00:58:16,708
no one took responsibility
to prevent reprisals.
1215
00:58:18,250 --> 00:58:21,375
Almost half of the inmates
from D yard suffered bruises,
1216
00:58:21,458 --> 00:58:25,500
lacerations, or broken bones,
as a result of such reprisals.
1217
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:28,458
- I would say that
1218
00:58:30,625 --> 00:58:35,291
we felt that Mr. Mancusi and
Mr. Vincent would handle this.
1219
00:58:35,375 --> 00:58:39,208
We had given orders, we presumed
it would be carried out.
1220
00:58:39,291 --> 00:58:41,291
- And he lied. He
lied to these people.
1221
00:58:41,375 --> 00:58:43,583
They asked him the question,
1222
00:58:43,666 --> 00:58:45,500
did he know about the gauntlet
1223
00:58:45,583 --> 00:58:46,875
and the beatings and whatever?
1224
00:58:46,958 --> 00:58:49,250
And he says, no, he
didn't go into the yard.
1225
00:58:49,333 --> 00:58:50,708
That's a lie.
1226
00:58:50,791 --> 00:58:53,875
He went into the yard about
10, 10:30. He saw it all.
1227
00:58:53,958 --> 00:58:58,750
And he was forced to tell
the truth in the trial
1228
00:58:58,833 --> 00:59:02,375
around the killing of Hubert
Jones, one of the cops.
1229
00:59:02,458 --> 00:59:04,041
And he had lied to McKay.
1230
00:59:04,125 --> 00:59:06,208
He had lied to,
on his deposition,
1231
00:59:06,291 --> 00:59:09,000
he had lied in the grand jury.
1232
00:59:09,083 --> 00:59:11,416
I mean, in our case,
we brought that up.
1233
00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:14,791
He got held to trial and
he died the day after.
1234
00:59:14,875 --> 00:59:19,791
(helicopter fluttering
drowns out man speaking)
1235
00:59:22,208 --> 00:59:25,750
When I graduated
from law school,
1236
00:59:29,333 --> 00:59:32,125
And, what else could you do?
1237
00:59:32,208 --> 00:59:33,416
But ABLD was it.
1238
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:35,750
The Attica Brothers
Legal Defense,
1239
00:59:35,833 --> 00:59:40,250
which was the mass
defense office convened
1240
00:59:40,333 --> 00:59:45,041
to defend the 63 people
who were accused of crime
1241
00:59:45,125 --> 00:59:48,083
as a result of the
Attica prison rebellion.
1242
00:59:48,166 --> 00:59:52,250
I had told them that I would
give two weeks of my time.
1243
00:59:52,333 --> 00:59:56,583
Now, I was full of shit, and
I knew I was full of shit,
1244
00:59:56,666 --> 00:59:58,416
because I borrowed
my mother's car
1245
00:59:58,500 --> 00:59:59,958
and put the dog in the car.
1246
01:00:01,250 --> 01:00:04,250
So, you know, but I had
to give myself an out.
1247
01:00:04,333 --> 01:00:08,875
I got up there on July
4th, and on July 5th
1248
01:00:08,958 --> 01:00:12,625
I walked into the office
at about nine o'clock
1249
01:00:12,708 --> 01:00:14,916
in the morning, and
I was commandeered
1250
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,500
by Frank "Big Black" Smith,
who interviewed me for an
hour,
1251
01:00:19,583 --> 01:00:21,833
and then by Dennis Cunningham,
1252
01:00:21,916 --> 01:00:24,083
and I fell in love
with both of them.
1253
01:00:24,166 --> 01:00:27,625
I mean, they were
amazing, both of them.
1254
01:00:30,375 --> 01:00:32,458
They were really into the fight.
1255
01:00:32,541 --> 01:00:34,500
And so that was it.
1256
01:00:34,583 --> 01:00:34,666
I never left.
1257
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,666
The same people who killed
everybody, the state police,
1258
01:00:42,916 --> 01:00:44,583
they were the
primary investigators
1259
01:00:44,666 --> 01:00:48,583
from the time of the
rebellion
and when it was over on
1260
01:00:50,666 --> 01:00:55,750
September 13th, until
February of 1972,
1261
01:00:55,833 --> 01:00:57,375
they controlled all
the evidence, they
controlled everybody,
1262
01:00:57,458 --> 01:01:00,625
and they destroyed everything.
1263
01:01:00,708 --> 01:01:04,958
They returned 38 indictments
1264
01:01:06,291 --> 01:01:08,541
against
1265
01:01:08,625 --> 01:01:11,333
61 prisoners,
1266
01:01:11,416 --> 01:01:14,291
charging them with
1267
01:01:14,375 --> 01:01:18,916
1,485 felony counts.
1268
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,750
The state troopers and the
guards who killed 39 people,
1269
01:01:22,833 --> 01:01:24,208
they were never prosecuted.
1270
01:01:25,708 --> 01:01:28,541
In March of 1974,
1271
01:01:30,541 --> 01:01:34,416
they convened a
second grand jury
1272
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:37,666
because they decided,
four years later,
1273
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:39,750
that everybody on
the first grand jury
1274
01:01:42,041 --> 01:01:45,750
had ties to Attica prison,
and therefore couldn't be
fair
1275
01:01:47,333 --> 01:01:48,916
in evaluating anything.
1276
01:01:50,958 --> 01:01:53,583
Of course, we had
raised this as an issue,
1277
01:01:54,833 --> 01:01:57,500
on November 1st, 1971.
1278
01:01:57,583 --> 01:01:59,291
And we were thrown out of court.
1279
01:01:59,375 --> 01:02:03,333
My colleagues, my
comrades, Michael Deutsch,
1280
01:02:03,416 --> 01:02:05,208
and Dennis Cunningham.
1281
01:02:05,291 --> 01:02:08,291
The major employer of Wyoming
County is Attica prison.
1282
01:02:09,791 --> 01:02:12,666
There are only white
people in Wyoming County,
1283
01:02:12,750 --> 01:02:16,375
even though they're listed
as one of the largest
1284
01:02:16,458 --> 01:02:18,750
third world populations
in upstate New York.
1285
01:02:20,791 --> 01:02:23,875
Because there are 1800
Black people there.
1286
01:02:23,958 --> 01:02:25,458
That they're all incarcerated
1287
01:02:25,541 --> 01:02:29,791
and have no right of
franchise, we won't speak on.
1288
01:02:30,916 --> 01:02:32,750
- [Court Reporter] Raise
your right hand, please.
1289
01:02:32,833 --> 01:02:34,416
Do you solemnly swear
that the testimony
1290
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:36,000
you're about to give will be
the truth, the whole truth,
1291
01:02:36,083 --> 01:02:38,208
nothing but the truth,
so help you God?
1292
01:02:38,291 --> 01:02:39,333
- I do.
1293
01:02:39,416 --> 01:02:42,291
- [Narrator] In 1974, Attica
Brothers Legal Defense
1294
01:02:42,375 --> 01:02:43,708
filed a $2.8 billion civil suit
1295
01:02:43,791 --> 01:02:46,583
against the state of
New York for damages,
1296
01:02:46,666 --> 01:02:50,041
on behalf of 1,281 inmates.
1297
01:02:50,125 --> 01:02:52,250
After years of delay
by the appointed judge,
1298
01:02:52,333 --> 01:02:56,125
pretrial discovery depositions
got underway in 1991.
1299
01:02:56,208 --> 01:02:58,416
These tapes are from
that deposition.
1300
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:00,083
They've never been
available to the public.
1301
01:03:00,166 --> 01:03:02,541
- George Alexander Shorts, Jr.
1302
01:03:10,416 --> 01:03:11,166
- Yes.
1303
01:03:11,250 --> 01:03:13,958
- In Attica's prison.
1304
01:03:14,041 --> 01:03:15,458
- I was hit.
1305
01:03:15,541 --> 01:03:16,416
- I was kicked in the side,
the back, and the buttocks.
1306
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:19,000
- My head was into the dirt.
1307
01:03:19,083 --> 01:03:20,291
- I was kicked in the side,
I was kicked in the hip,
1308
01:03:20,375 --> 01:03:22,708
kicked in the back.
1309
01:03:22,791 --> 01:03:25,250
- [Interviewer] Any inmates
being kicked in A yard?
1310
01:03:26,291 --> 01:03:26,958
- I don't recall that.
1311
01:03:27,041 --> 01:03:29,833
- I was hit in the testicles.
1312
01:03:31,208 --> 01:03:32,208
- A shotgun.
1313
01:03:35,583 --> 01:03:36,666
- I couldn't really say.
1314
01:03:36,750 --> 01:03:38,166
I knew I was hit.
1315
01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:39,541
I was hit, what, you know,
when you're hit like that
1316
01:03:39,625 --> 01:03:40,750
you're not trying to count.
1317
01:03:40,833 --> 01:03:41,916
You're scared to death.
1318
01:03:43,250 --> 01:03:44,541
I wetted on myself.
1319
01:03:44,625 --> 01:03:49,083
I was hit in the head, the
back, my arms, trying to
block.
1320
01:03:49,791 --> 01:03:50,000
And the lip.
1321
01:03:50,500 --> 01:03:51,833
- Face, yes.
1322
01:03:53,541 --> 01:03:55,166
- Yes, I did.
1323
01:03:55,250 --> 01:03:56,833
- No. They had taken
them and stomped on 'em.
1324
01:03:56,916 --> 01:04:00,583
- Then my glasses was
taken off me, stomped.
1325
01:04:00,666 --> 01:04:02,666
You were forced under gunpoint
1326
01:04:02,750 --> 01:04:06,708
to crawl the length of the
yard on your knees and elbows.
1327
01:04:06,791 --> 01:04:07,916
I was told to take
off all of my clothes.
1328
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,791
And I was hit, and
told to "Run, nigger."
1329
01:04:09,875 --> 01:04:12,583
- And he put the gun to
my head, cocked the gun,
1330
01:04:12,666 --> 01:04:13,750
and said, "Nigger,
I'm gonna kill you."
1331
01:04:16,041 --> 01:04:18,166
And that's when I started
pleading for my life.
1332
01:04:18,250 --> 01:04:21,083
- There was a correction, two
correction officers was there,
1333
01:04:21,166 --> 01:04:23,916
telling me the same
thing, "Run, nigger, run."
1334
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,041
And that's exactly what I did.
1335
01:04:26,125 --> 01:04:29,208
- And I was told, "When I hit
this door with this stick,
1336
01:04:30,458 --> 01:04:31,958
nigger, you better
start moving."
1337
01:04:33,583 --> 01:04:36,041
And when he hit the
door, I started moving.
1338
01:04:36,125 --> 01:04:37,875
- [Interviewer] Did you
hear what kind of language
1339
01:04:37,958 --> 01:04:39,541
was being uttered in that yard?
1340
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,666
- Emphatic language, "Get over
there, get down, move along,"
1341
01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:46,083
that sort of thing.
1342
01:04:46,166 --> 01:04:49,833
- [Interviewer] Did it have
after it words such as
"nigger?"
1343
01:04:49,916 --> 01:04:50,916
When he said, "Get down there."
1344
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,708
- No, I didn't hear that.
- Move along.
1345
01:04:52,791 --> 01:04:54,625
- If I did I'd report it to you.
1346
01:04:54,708 --> 01:04:57,333
- [Elizabeth] And then the
gauntlet, 50 correction
officers
1347
01:04:57,416 --> 01:05:00,625
and sheriff's deputies,
they lined the corridors
1348
01:05:00,708 --> 01:05:03,666
with their sticks and
clubs and two-by-fours
1349
01:05:03,750 --> 01:05:07,416
and rifle butts, and
plenty of broken glass.
1350
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:09,541
And they had all these naked
people, and one-by-one,
1351
01:05:09,625 --> 01:05:12,166
they made them run through it
1352
01:05:12,250 --> 01:05:13,625
while they got beaten with clubs
1353
01:05:13,708 --> 01:05:15,625
all the way up the
stairs into the cell.
1354
01:05:15,708 --> 01:05:18,708
(slow eerie music)
1355
01:05:29,291 --> 01:05:31,041
- [Former Inmate] They
were kicking, and saying,
1356
01:05:31,125 --> 01:05:34,333
"Keep moving, keep moving,
keep moving," kicking,
1357
01:05:34,416 --> 01:05:35,583
"keep moving."
1358
01:05:35,666 --> 01:05:38,250
- Bobby Seales is not here now.
1359
01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:39,500
Where's your Black power?
1360
01:05:39,583 --> 01:05:41,625
- Well, as I was
being put in the cell,
1361
01:05:41,708 --> 01:05:43,583
I was hit in the back of
the head with a billy club
1362
01:05:43,666 --> 01:05:45,541
and thrown in the
cell on the floor.
1363
01:05:45,625 --> 01:05:48,791
- Whoever beat me,
they came in the cell,
1364
01:05:48,875 --> 01:05:52,000
told me to put my hands
against the back of the wall,
1365
01:05:52,083 --> 01:05:54,625
and with their
rifles, broke my toes.
1366
01:05:56,208 --> 01:05:57,583
- Broke my toes.
1367
01:05:57,666 --> 01:05:58,833
He said, "Nigger, you don't
wanna run across our glass,"
1368
01:05:58,916 --> 01:06:00,625
and that's when
he broke my toes.
1369
01:06:00,708 --> 01:06:02,583
"You'll run it next time."
1370
01:06:02,666 --> 01:06:03,583
- The same thing that I
went through downstairs,
1371
01:06:03,666 --> 01:06:06,000
I had to go through upstairs.
1372
01:06:06,083 --> 01:06:07,333
Every time they came
out and take a count,
1373
01:06:07,416 --> 01:06:08,000
I had to have my
head on the bars.
1374
01:06:09,958 --> 01:06:11,041
- Yes they did, for
that eight hours.
1375
01:06:14,250 --> 01:06:15,583
- He called me nigger.
1376
01:06:15,666 --> 01:06:17,125
"Nigger, put your head on
these
bars and you keep your head
1377
01:06:17,208 --> 01:06:19,083
on these bars, nigger,
when I come through."
1378
01:06:19,166 --> 01:06:20,250
And I was hit on the head.
1379
01:06:22,083 --> 01:06:23,291
- No, he didn't.
1380
01:06:23,375 --> 01:06:24,500
- I was working in the
hospital that afternoon
1381
01:06:24,583 --> 01:06:29,833
and I was assigned to get
four men to form a litter team
1382
01:06:31,416 --> 01:06:32,083
and to walk through the
hallway from the hospital
1383
01:06:32,166 --> 01:06:36,166
to the BHZ or reception center.
1384
01:06:36,250 --> 01:06:37,916
And as I walked in, I got
the door a quarter of a way
1385
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,750
or halfway open, and I
saw correction officers,
1386
01:06:42,833 --> 01:06:46,916
five, six, or seven,
I wasn't exact,
1387
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,583
bending over, beating on
somebody that was on the
floor.
1388
01:06:49,666 --> 01:06:50,875
And they told me
to shut the door
1389
01:06:50,958 --> 01:06:52,916
that I wasn't allowed
into that room.
1390
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,041
- And again, while
I was in the cell,
1391
01:06:55,125 --> 01:06:57,166
they were having
standing counts.
1392
01:06:57,250 --> 01:06:58,541
They would come around
every 10 or 15 minutes
1393
01:06:58,625 --> 01:07:01,375
and say, "Count."
1394
01:07:02,958 --> 01:07:04,333
And it got to be the point
1395
01:07:04,416 --> 01:07:06,333
where I couldn't stand up
anymore, I was just too
tired.
1396
01:07:06,416 --> 01:07:09,250
So I told 'em, I said,
"Look, I'm alive,
1397
01:07:09,333 --> 01:07:10,541
but I can't stand up."
1398
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,625
The guy told me, "Well
nigger, if you don't stand
up,
1399
01:07:13,708 --> 01:07:15,750
get on your knees and pray."
1400
01:07:16,833 --> 01:07:18,541
I said, "I'm not
gonna do that either."
1401
01:07:19,875 --> 01:07:21,958
So, I think it was two
correctional officers,
1402
01:07:22,041 --> 01:07:23,125
they came back with a,
1403
01:07:23,208 --> 01:07:28,125
I think he was a state
trooper with a very large gun.
1404
01:07:30,416 --> 01:07:32,625
It looked like a .357
Magnum, stuck in my cell,
1405
01:07:32,708 --> 01:07:34,375
and told me to get on my
knees, nigger, and pray.
1406
01:07:34,458 --> 01:07:35,666
"You gonna die, right now."
1407
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:38,958
So he pulled the trigger, but
there was nothing in the gun.
1408
01:07:40,166 --> 01:07:42,416
Just a loud noise.
1409
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:47,500
And, I regurgitated for
about 15 or 20 minutes,
1410
01:07:47,583 --> 01:07:48,000
and they thought
it was quite funny.
1411
01:07:50,625 --> 01:07:54,625
Then after I did that, then
I start crying quite badly.
1412
01:07:56,916 --> 01:07:59,916
Not because I was
scared, I was just angry.
1413
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,125
I said to myself, "If I just
get my hands on one of 'em."
1414
01:08:04,416 --> 01:08:06,166
Like I say, it's hard for me
1415
01:08:06,250 --> 01:08:09,333
to go over some
of these details.
1416
01:08:09,416 --> 01:08:11,958
- They made me take my
clothes off, hit the ground.
1417
01:08:12,041 --> 01:08:13,916
And then they crawled the
whole length of the yard,
1418
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,458
over to A block door.
1419
01:08:16,541 --> 01:08:19,416
And just before I was going to,
1420
01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:23,000
I was in line waiting to
go through A block door,
1421
01:08:23,083 --> 01:08:27,708
a correctional officer picked
me out and put me on the side
1422
01:08:27,791 --> 01:08:30,041
of A block corridor,
on the outside.
1423
01:08:30,125 --> 01:08:32,000
And he laid me
down on the ground
1424
01:08:32,083 --> 01:08:35,291
and put a shotgun
shell on my knee.
1425
01:08:35,375 --> 01:08:37,958
And he told me if
that fell, I was dead.
1426
01:08:38,041 --> 01:08:40,333
And I laid there for
what seemed like hours.
1427
01:08:40,416 --> 01:08:45,291
The officers that were up
on the catwalk above me
1428
01:08:45,375 --> 01:08:48,375
were throwing cigarettes
down on my stomach.
1429
01:08:48,458 --> 01:08:50,208
The officer that was over by me
1430
01:08:50,291 --> 01:08:52,666
would pick them up
and burn me with them,
1431
01:08:52,750 --> 01:08:54,791
kick me in my ribs.
1432
01:08:54,875 --> 01:08:57,333
As soon as I got to the
top of the third floor,
1433
01:08:57,416 --> 01:08:59,000
I was kicked in the testicles,
1434
01:08:59,083 --> 01:09:03,750
and I went back down the
stairs
head over heels, one flight,
1435
01:09:05,166 --> 01:09:07,625
and then I was made to get up
1436
01:09:07,708 --> 01:09:09,791
and they beat me up
the stairs again.
1437
01:09:13,666 --> 01:09:18,666
- My back, head, neck, arms,
shoulders, legs, kidney area.
1438
01:09:19,666 --> 01:09:21,000
And I was urinating blood.
1439
01:09:21,083 --> 01:09:23,708
I was beaten and laid
in the cell for 11 days
1440
01:09:23,791 --> 01:09:25,708
before I got any
medical attention.
1441
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:31,583
Stuck rifles inside the cell
bars, pulled the trigger,
1442
01:09:32,458 --> 01:09:33,583
and told me I was dead.
1443
01:09:39,333 --> 01:09:44,291
- From September 13th,
1971, until November, 1972.
1444
01:09:47,666 --> 01:09:50,125
- Yeah. It's not
a time to forget.
1445
01:10:04,166 --> 01:10:05,166
- Well, it's hard
for me to recount
1446
01:10:07,791 --> 01:10:11,541
things that happened in A block.
1447
01:10:11,625 --> 01:10:14,250
It's hard for me to recount
things that happened in A.
1448
01:10:15,833 --> 01:10:17,500
It's hard for me to recount
things, I get very angry.
1449
01:10:17,583 --> 01:10:20,083
And this anger has caused
me a lot of problems.
1450
01:10:21,416 --> 01:10:26,583
I have problems dealing
with authority figures,
1451
01:10:26,666 --> 01:10:28,416
have problems dealing
with policemen.
1452
01:10:30,500 --> 01:10:32,250
And when I do encounter
it, I get quite angry,
1453
01:10:32,333 --> 01:10:35,416
because I can still
see people that I knew
1454
01:10:35,500 --> 01:10:37,250
with their eyes blown out
and their heads blown off.
1455
01:10:41,291 --> 01:10:43,833
- [Elizabeth] Michael
Smith got shot four times,
1456
01:10:43,916 --> 01:10:48,416
and by 10 o'clock, or 10:30,
1457
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:53,416
he was already in the
operating
room being operated on.
1458
01:10:54,708 --> 01:10:56,458
So by 10:30, they
knew he had been shot.
1459
01:10:57,791 --> 01:10:59,375
He's the person who
1460
01:11:01,041 --> 01:11:04,958
Black was supposed
to have emasculated
1461
01:11:05,041 --> 01:11:08,166
and shoved his
testicles in his mouth.
1462
01:11:08,250 --> 01:11:10,083
And that was the excuse
they used to torture Black.
1463
01:11:10,166 --> 01:11:14,000
And they told that story
at 12:30, one o'clock
1464
01:11:14,083 --> 01:11:15,000
in the afternoon.
1465
01:11:16,291 --> 01:11:18,833
And then they torture him,
and do all this shit to him.
1466
01:11:20,666 --> 01:11:21,291
And, there he is.
1467
01:11:23,875 --> 01:11:24,666
Big Black.
1468
01:11:27,666 --> 01:11:31,291
- I was made to crawl after
I was knocked to the ground.
1469
01:11:31,375 --> 01:11:33,125
Pushing, kicking, calling
me all kind of niggers,
1470
01:11:33,208 --> 01:11:35,708
telling me to walk,
telling me to run.
1471
01:11:35,791 --> 01:11:38,125
Drug, dragged.
1472
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:40,666
- They took me to...
1473
01:11:42,916 --> 01:11:46,083
(slow ominous music)
1474
01:12:24,416 --> 01:12:26,791
You wanna break?
Take some water?
1475
01:12:26,875 --> 01:12:30,041
(deep ominous music)
1476
01:12:37,416 --> 01:12:39,541
- Took me and they made me
lay on the table in the yard
1477
01:12:39,625 --> 01:12:41,375
and they beat me in my nuts.
1478
01:12:43,208 --> 01:12:44,333
Threatened me and dropped
cigarette butts on me,
1479
01:12:44,416 --> 01:12:46,958
and hot shells on
me and spit on me.
1480
01:12:47,041 --> 01:12:48,291
- [Attorney] Hold on, slow down.
1481
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:50,666
- [Court Reporter]
Hot what, I'm sorry.
1482
01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:51,625
- Shells.
- Okay.
1483
01:12:52,750 --> 01:12:54,708
- Tell me they was
gonna cut my testicles
1484
01:12:54,791 --> 01:12:55,291
and my genitals out.
1485
01:12:57,458 --> 01:13:00,333
(tense somber music)
1486
01:13:05,833 --> 01:13:06,916
(fists slam)
1487
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,916
(tense somber music)
1488
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:15,125
That's what was happening to me.
1489
01:13:16,875 --> 01:13:18,916
- Long time.
1490
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,250
Three to six hours, all day.
1491
01:13:26,458 --> 01:13:26,750
- Under my chin, yes.
1492
01:13:26,833 --> 01:13:27,791
- Yes.
1493
01:13:27,875 --> 01:13:30,041
- Yes.
1494
01:13:32,500 --> 01:13:35,083
- Off and on I'd move and
try and get 'em off me,
1495
01:13:35,166 --> 01:13:36,541
and the cigarettes off me.
1496
01:13:38,041 --> 01:13:40,583
A bunch of times being beat,
1497
01:13:40,666 --> 01:13:43,208
called a bunch of names
'cause my legs was dead,
1498
01:13:43,291 --> 01:13:45,291
they was numb, I couldn't walk.
1499
01:13:48,041 --> 01:13:49,416
They finally drug me,
put me the hallway,
1500
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:51,625
and I had to go
through the same thing
1501
01:13:51,708 --> 01:13:53,125
everybody else
was going through,
1502
01:13:53,208 --> 01:13:55,625
because I was about the
last person out of the yard.
1503
01:13:57,458 --> 01:14:00,416
They made me run
through the gauntlet.
1504
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:02,458
Made me crawl
through the gauntlet.
1505
01:14:05,041 --> 01:14:07,041
- It was in A corridor.
1506
01:14:08,041 --> 01:14:10,291
Somewhere in that afternoon.
1507
01:14:13,250 --> 01:14:16,208
- I've been struck a lot.
That's all I was was struck.
1508
01:14:16,291 --> 01:14:20,500
As I got to the entrance to
HBZ building, I was beat
again.
1509
01:14:20,583 --> 01:14:22,458
This happened, my wristes--
1510
01:14:23,916 --> 01:14:24,708
- My wrists.
1511
01:14:26,916 --> 01:14:29,666
And my body, my legs was
spread eagle on the floor,
1512
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:34,416
and they're played with
my genitals with gun butts
1513
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:36,333
and nigger sticks that they
was calling, pick handles.
1514
01:14:38,666 --> 01:14:42,291
And played Russian roulette
with a shotgun at my eyes.
1515
01:14:42,375 --> 01:14:46,500
Made me open my eyes,
made me look up in it.
1516
01:14:46,583 --> 01:14:49,000
A headache, my back was
hurting, my legs was hurting
me,
1517
01:14:49,083 --> 01:14:50,666
my arms was hurting me.
1518
01:14:50,750 --> 01:14:53,625
I was a mess. My
mind was messed up.
1519
01:14:53,708 --> 01:14:54,666
I couldn't hold
anything on my stomach.
1520
01:14:54,750 --> 01:14:57,916
I urinate blood for
two years after Attica.
1521
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,000
- Yeah, to the lawyers.
1522
01:15:03,416 --> 01:15:04,541
Nobody else would listen.
1523
01:15:11,125 --> 01:15:13,708
- [Narrator] In 2001,
after 26 years of struggle,
1524
01:15:13,791 --> 01:15:15,250
the Attica Brothers
were awarded $8 million
1525
01:15:15,333 --> 01:15:18,083
of the 2.8 billion they sought.
1526
01:15:19,375 --> 01:15:20,833
The money was divided
among the survivors
1527
01:15:20,916 --> 01:15:22,833
according to the severity
of their injuries,
1528
01:15:22,916 --> 01:15:24,875
most receiving a few
thousand dollars.
1529
01:15:27,166 --> 01:15:29,791
Big Black went on to work
with Liz Fink as a paralegal,
1530
01:15:29,875 --> 01:15:32,541
hounding her to pursue the
civil case to expose the
truth
1531
01:15:32,625 --> 01:15:34,916
of the retaking of D yard.
1532
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,958
He was a substance abuse and
suicide prevention counselor
1533
01:15:38,041 --> 01:15:39,458
who was known to take
desperate clients
1534
01:15:39,541 --> 01:15:41,791
into the home he shared
with his wife, Pearl.
1535
01:15:43,375 --> 01:15:45,541
At the end of his life, he
was pushing for compensation
1536
01:15:45,625 --> 01:15:46,791
for the families of the guards
1537
01:15:46,875 --> 01:15:48,375
who were murdered on that day.
1538
01:15:49,375 --> 01:15:50,750
In recognition of his injuries,
1539
01:15:50,833 --> 01:15:53,083
Big Black received the
largest individual payout,
1540
01:15:53,166 --> 01:15:55,583
for $125,000.
1541
01:15:56,833 --> 01:15:57,833
Fink was proud of
their accomplishments,
1542
01:15:57,916 --> 01:16:01,208
but she did not consider
the settlement justice.
1543
01:16:01,291 --> 01:16:02,750
She went on to represent
hundreds of people
1544
01:16:02,833 --> 01:16:04,291
in the New York prison system
1545
01:16:04,375 --> 01:16:06,625
through the worst years of
the Rockefeller drug laws.
1546
01:16:06,708 --> 01:16:09,083
- These were huge
prisons, they still are.
1547
01:16:09,166 --> 01:16:12,291
They're still all, every one
of them is still in existence
1548
01:16:12,375 --> 01:16:14,250
with thousands of
people in them.
1549
01:16:14,333 --> 01:16:17,791
And these huge walls,
right? Horrifying.
1550
01:16:17,875 --> 01:16:21,875
Green Haven, which is about
60 miles from New York City.
1551
01:16:21,958 --> 01:16:26,875
Comstock, which is on the
Vermont New York border.
1552
01:16:26,958 --> 01:16:29,083
Dannemora, which
we all know is up
1553
01:16:29,166 --> 01:16:31,666
right next to Canada.
1554
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:35,916
Auburn, which is the second
oldest prison in America.
1555
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,083
Huge, in the middle of town.
1556
01:16:37,166 --> 01:16:39,916
This monster prison.
1557
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,041
Wall, gun towers, the
whole nine yards of it.
1558
01:16:44,125 --> 01:16:48,833
Same town as the Harriet
Tubman house. (laughs)
1559
01:16:50,166 --> 01:16:53,875
And Sing Sing, which is
right up on the Hudson.
1560
01:16:53,958 --> 01:16:57,291
And last, but certainly not
least, Attica State Prison.
1561
01:16:57,375 --> 01:16:59,208
Attica was not the worst.
1562
01:17:00,375 --> 01:17:02,166
It was the next to the worst.
1563
01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:06,250
The worst is Dannemora State
Prison in Clinton, New York.
1564
01:17:06,333 --> 01:17:07,583
And all you have to do
is look at the stuff
1565
01:17:07,666 --> 01:17:10,583
that just happened as
the perfect example
1566
01:17:10,666 --> 01:17:14,291
of how the prison
system has not changed.
1567
01:17:14,375 --> 01:17:15,625
- [Reporter] Matt
and Sweat escaped
1568
01:17:15,708 --> 01:17:17,583
from the Clinton
Correctional Facility
1569
01:17:17,666 --> 01:17:19,291
in Dannemora, New
York on June 6th.
1570
01:17:19,375 --> 01:17:20,750
- What does New York state do?
1571
01:17:20,833 --> 01:17:24,666
It blames the prisoners,
beats the shit out of them,
1572
01:17:24,750 --> 01:17:29,166
waterboards people, and
you have the governor
1573
01:17:29,250 --> 01:17:32,666
of the state of New York going
and blaming the prisoners,
1574
01:17:32,750 --> 01:17:36,333
and saying he knows that
the corrections people
1575
01:17:36,416 --> 01:17:37,500
had nothing to do with it.
1576
01:17:37,583 --> 01:17:38,625
And of course they are the ones
1577
01:17:38,708 --> 01:17:40,083
who had something to do with it.
1578
01:17:40,166 --> 01:17:42,375
And they, by
definition, have to.
1579
01:17:43,416 --> 01:17:44,291
- [Reporter] The two
men had inside help
1580
01:17:44,375 --> 01:17:47,208
facilitating their escape.
1581
01:17:47,291 --> 01:17:48,625
Joyce Tilly Mitchell,
a supervisor
1582
01:17:48,708 --> 01:17:52,375
in the prison tailor
department, arrested and charged
1583
01:17:52,458 --> 01:17:54,458
with helping them break free.
1584
01:17:54,541 --> 01:17:56,291
- The New York
state prison system
1585
01:17:56,375 --> 01:17:59,125
is a race-based conspiracy.
1586
01:17:59,208 --> 01:18:01,541
Here you have all these
prisoners, they can't vote.
1587
01:18:02,791 --> 01:18:05,125
And Clinton County counts them.
1588
01:18:05,208 --> 01:18:09,666
They get money from both
the feds and the state
1589
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:12,916
for having a
minority population.
1590
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,041
All the Black people
who live in Plattsburgh,
1591
01:18:15,125 --> 01:18:15,541
they're all in that prison,
1592
01:18:17,875 --> 01:18:18,666
and they don't vote.
1593
01:18:23,625 --> 01:18:24,708
- I am strongly in favor
of the death penalty.
1594
01:18:24,791 --> 01:18:26,958
I'm also in favor of
bringing back police forces
1595
01:18:27,041 --> 01:18:29,708
that can do something instead
of just turning their back.
1596
01:18:29,791 --> 01:18:31,708
Because every quality lawyer
that represents people
1597
01:18:31,791 --> 01:18:34,458
that are in trouble,
the first thing they do
1598
01:18:34,541 --> 01:18:36,791
is start shouting police
brutality, et cetera.
1599
01:18:36,875 --> 01:18:39,125
The problem with our
society is that the victim
1600
01:18:39,208 --> 01:18:40,500
has absolutely no rights
1601
01:18:40,583 --> 01:18:42,875
and the criminal has
unbelievable rights,
1602
01:18:42,958 --> 01:18:44,333
unbelievable rights.
1603
01:18:44,416 --> 01:18:47,708
- All those people are my
age, they're my generation.
1604
01:18:47,791 --> 01:18:50,416
And they decided that they
had a big problem here
1605
01:18:50,500 --> 01:18:53,000
that they had to control.
1606
01:18:53,083 --> 01:18:55,250
And they were gonna make sure
it wouldn't happen again.
1607
01:18:55,333 --> 01:18:57,041
And the first thing
they sort of said,
1608
01:18:57,125 --> 01:18:59,625
a free press doesn't
help things at all.
1609
01:19:01,166 --> 01:19:03,250
And if you let cameras in
there to show everybody
1610
01:19:03,333 --> 01:19:06,000
what's happening, this is
not progressive for you.
1611
01:19:06,083 --> 01:19:08,500
They lost any sense of ethics.
1612
01:19:12,916 --> 01:19:15,875
So they've created
this situation
1613
01:19:15,958 --> 01:19:18,791
where you have the life
that we all have here.
1614
01:19:20,041 --> 01:19:21,458
- [Instructor] The
correct grip is obtained
1615
01:19:21,541 --> 01:19:23,791
by placing the leather
thong over the right thumb
1616
01:19:23,875 --> 01:19:25,208
in this manner.
1617
01:19:25,291 --> 01:19:26,750
You say you'd like to see
a practical demonstration?
1618
01:19:26,833 --> 01:19:28,875
- [Child] They hurt my mommy!
1619
01:19:28,958 --> 01:19:30,666
- [Instructor] Remember
as police officers,
1620
01:19:30,750 --> 01:19:32,791
we may only use that
amount of force necessary
1621
01:19:32,875 --> 01:19:34,208
to make an arrest.
1622
01:19:34,291 --> 01:19:35,458
And the amount of force
must not be disproportionate
1623
01:19:35,541 --> 01:19:38,666
to the degree of
resistance offered.
1624
01:19:38,750 --> 01:19:41,333
This technique is advocated
when you are in close quarters
1625
01:19:41,416 --> 01:19:43,708
and the assailant has
indicated he has the ability
1626
01:19:43,791 --> 01:19:46,583
to make a dangerous
attack upon your person.
1627
01:19:47,875 --> 01:19:50,458
Your counter should be direct
to the solar plexus area,
1628
01:19:50,541 --> 01:19:52,708
then quickly to the collar bone.
1629
01:19:52,791 --> 01:19:56,083
- Put your hands
behind your back!
1630
01:19:56,166 --> 01:19:58,791
- And if he's still
aggressive,
then up under the chin.
1631
01:19:58,875 --> 01:20:03,541
That's it, solar plexus,
collarbone, and up to the
chin.
1632
01:20:03,625 --> 01:20:05,291
Next man.
1633
01:20:05,375 --> 01:20:08,708
(adventurous orchestral music)
1634
01:20:08,791 --> 01:20:10,000
That's the idea.
1635
01:20:12,083 --> 01:20:13,916
But to master this
technique takes practice.
1636
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,291
So gentlemen, let's begin.
1637
01:20:18,750 --> 01:20:21,333
- The jury in the Los Angeles
police brutality trial
1638
01:20:21,416 --> 01:20:23,083
has just reached its verdicts.
1639
01:20:23,166 --> 01:20:26,541
The four police officers
were found not guilty.
1640
01:20:26,625 --> 01:20:28,666
- Not guilty.
- Not guilty on all counts.
1641
01:20:28,750 --> 01:20:31,083
(gunshots blasting)
1642
01:20:31,166 --> 01:20:32,708
(man screams)
1643
01:20:32,791 --> 01:20:34,625
- [Instructor] While accuracy
is certainly essential,
1644
01:20:34,708 --> 01:20:37,250
delivering a shot
first is paramount.
1645
01:20:38,416 --> 01:20:40,000
Tactical speed
shooting teaches both.
1646
01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:42,708
An alternative method
of firearms training,
1647
01:20:42,791 --> 01:20:45,708
speed shooting is
gaining recognition
1648
01:20:45,791 --> 01:20:47,625
as the next logical step.
1649
01:20:47,708 --> 01:20:50,333
(gunshots popping)
1650
01:20:50,416 --> 01:20:52,291
- Shooters, ready.
1651
01:20:52,375 --> 01:20:53,375
- [Instructor] The
program is also available
1652
01:20:53,458 --> 01:20:55,791
to state and local law
enforcement officers,
1653
01:20:55,875 --> 01:20:56,875
with a basic training
prerequisite.
1654
01:20:56,958 --> 01:20:58,291
- [Officer] That looks
like a bad dude, too.
1655
01:20:58,375 --> 01:21:00,458
Could be on something.
1656
01:21:00,541 --> 01:21:02,750
(gunshots blasting)
1657
01:21:02,833 --> 01:21:07,750
(sirens blaring)
(police radio chatter)
1658
01:21:08,500 --> 01:21:09,375
- Hey!
1659
01:21:09,458 --> 01:21:10,875
(gunshots popping)
(Philando screaming)
1660
01:21:10,958 --> 01:21:12,291
- [Woman] Hey, you just
killed my boyfriend.
1661
01:21:12,375 --> 01:21:16,166
(gunshots blasting)
1662
01:21:18,083 --> 01:21:20,291
- [Instructor] The overall
program is organized
1663
01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:21,750
around the concept
of domination.
1664
01:21:21,833 --> 01:21:24,541
- [Elijah] I can't
breathe, can you stop?
1665
01:21:24,625 --> 01:21:25,916
- [Instructor]
Dominate the opponent.
1666
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,666
Dominate the situation, and
dominate all visual areas.
1667
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:32,250
These skills translate
into a safer,
1668
01:21:32,333 --> 01:21:36,083
more controlled officer, who
is less likely to overreact,
1669
01:21:36,166 --> 01:21:38,750
or worse, under-react
to the situation.
1670
01:21:38,833 --> 01:21:39,833
- [Eric] Don't touch me.
1671
01:21:39,916 --> 01:21:43,500
(officers talking at once)
1672
01:21:49,250 --> 01:21:50,958
- All right, we've got
him, he's down, he's down.
1673
01:21:51,041 --> 01:21:53,791
- [Officer] Let me
see your hands, buddy.
1674
01:21:53,875 --> 01:21:55,166
- [Officer] Put your
hands behind your back.
1675
01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:57,958
- [Eric] I can't breathe.
1676
01:21:58,041 --> 01:21:58,416
I can't breathe.
1677
01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:00,750
I can't breathe.
1678
01:22:00,833 --> 01:22:01,791
- [Officer] You aren't
gonna breathe in my face.
1679
01:22:01,875 --> 01:22:02,750
Just get up.
1680
01:22:03,500 --> 01:22:04,125
(George groaning)
1681
01:22:04,208 --> 01:22:05,958
- [Officer] What do you want?
1682
01:22:06,041 --> 01:22:07,125
- I can't breathe.
1683
01:22:07,208 --> 01:22:09,208
- [Elizabeth] It is
all about oppression.
1684
01:22:09,291 --> 01:22:11,041
- I can't breathe sir.
1685
01:22:14,041 --> 01:22:16,708
- And greed and racism.
1686
01:22:16,791 --> 01:22:18,541
(George groaning loudly)
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01:22:19,875 --> 01:22:23,208
(daunting strings music)
1688
01:23:44,458 --> 01:23:46,208
Okay, thank you.
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01:23:46,750 --> 01:23:48,291
- Thank you.
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