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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,640 The horror house in Amityville. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,800 It became known as America's most haunted house. 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,120 It's the United States biggest haunted house story. 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,240 Within these walls along an idyllic street 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,840 -killed a man his whole family in cold blood. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Six members of a family was found shot in Amityville. 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,360 Ronald DeFeo said that evil power asked him to commit the crime. 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,840 I had no control. I must have been obsessed with the Devil. 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,560 The evil was so intense that it made the next family flee. 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,360 I can not see it for myself. It would be intimidating. 11 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Now reveals authentic photos from inside the house- 12 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,960 -the awful secrets to Amityville's horror house. 13 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,040 Devils exist, demons exist. 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,280 And the world of the supernatural never becomes himself equal. 15 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,800 It seems to be a normal house on a normal street. 16 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:29,960 But the house in Amityville, New York is known as America's most haunted. 17 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,080 A popular movie from 1979 made the house famous. 18 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:42,520 "Demons in Amityville" struck ticket record and frightened the audience. 19 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,040 People were shocked when the film came out. 20 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,240 Here we had a horror movie that people understood. 21 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,400 For the first time we got a taste on real evil in a home 22 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,600 -which was haunted of violent phenomena. 23 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,880 It was claimed to be the true one the story of the Lutz family. 24 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:10,200 It was something that everyone would understand. 25 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,160 It opened many doors for the concept of the supernatural. 26 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,680 The inhabitants of Amityville has already ridden a storm 27 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,080 -after the publication of a book about a haunted house in the city. 28 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Now they steel themselves the tourists who come 29 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,920 -after the success of the film "The Demons of Amityville". 30 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,400 My mother and I. so "The Demons of Amityville". 31 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,040 When we got out, we saw a long queue. 32 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,520 It was a great movie. I felt weird all day. 33 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,400 What had I just experienced? 34 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,600 People were enchanted by the film about the dream house that became a nightmare. 35 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:59,760 But the story began a year ago before the Lutz family moved in, - 36 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:05,040 -then another family, the DeFeo family, lived in the house. 37 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,400 WELCOME TO AMITYVILLE 38 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,720 Amityville, New York is located about an hour east of Manhattan. 39 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,440 It is a prosperous suburb on the south coast of Long Island. 40 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,200 It is known for its expensive houses, good schools and safe residential areas. 41 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,320 Everything is changing as a heinous crime- 42 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,080 at 112 Ocean Avenue shocks society. 43 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,400 Latest news from WOR's newsroom. 44 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,440 Six family members were found shot to death in nightwear- 45 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,760 -in his exclusive home Find and compare hotels in Amityville on Long Island 46 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,840 The only information one has, according to the police in Amityville, - 47 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,400 -is that the victims have been identified as members of the DeFeo family. 48 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,880 They were found by the 23-year-old son Ronald DeFeo, - 49 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,920 -which is believed to be family only surviving member. 50 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,600 More information to come in the news at eleven o'clock, 51 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Like the Lutz family, DeFeos works as an all-American family. 52 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,800 The sign on the farm reads: "High hopes." 53 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,840 HIGH HOPES 54 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,880 I woke up in the morning and listened to the radio news- 55 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:23,120 -that a mass murder was committed Find and compare hotels in Amityville on Long Island 56 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:25,640 A shock to society. 57 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,720 Police found all the bodies in the same position, on the stomach. 58 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,960 The mother was shot in the head, the father was shot in the back. 59 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,760 The whole family had been killed in the middle of the night, - 60 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,960 -and no one could explain how it had gone. 61 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,000 The only survivor was 23 year old Ronald DeFeo Junior. 62 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,840 As the police fine comb the scene for traces, - 63 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,040 -tells Ronnie a nasty story about that he found his parents, - 64 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:11,200 -two brothers and two sisters killed in their beds. 65 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,280 He had been drinking during the day. 66 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,880 After he had found the bodies, he asked for help at a local bar. 67 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,600 He opened the door and shouted, "Help me!" 68 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,080 "Someone shot my parents!" So everyone ran out of the bar. 69 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Ronald DeFeo said someone had broke in. That was great news. 70 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,200 Journalists interviewed broken friends and neighbors. 71 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,320 You knew the DeFeo family. How was your relationship with Ron? 72 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:48,040 I think she adored him. As far as I know. 73 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,160 She always said that he was the apple of her eye. 74 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:59,040 But Louise DeFeo's son Ronnie hides a cruel secret. 75 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:04,040 He claims to be an evil creature gave him a Marlin rifle 76 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,960 -and forced him to kill his family. 77 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:13,040 NOVEMBER 13, 1974 AT 03.15 78 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,480 Ronnie claims he was in the basement when a figure appeared to him, - 79 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,880 - gave him the weapon and asked him about committing these crimes. 80 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:31,040 I knew something was wrong was going to happen to my mom and dad. 81 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,240 He loads the weapon, goes up the stairs- 82 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,640 -and kills his parents in cold blood. 83 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,160 Ronnie crosses the hallway and shoots his 13-year-old sister Allison. 84 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:56,600 I had no control. I was not in touch with reality. 85 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,800 I could not control it. 86 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Then he kills both his brothers. Mark at twelve and John at nine. 87 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,480 Finally he goes up the stairs to the third floor. 88 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:17,360 His sister Dawn, eight, is awake. She asks what is wrong. 89 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,840 DeFeo asks her to go to bed. Everything is as it should. 90 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,960 He opens the door and commits one last cruel act. 91 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:40,920 Ronnie then dumped the evidence in a Brooklyn sewer. 92 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:48,080 He threw the weapon from the pier in Amityville and went to work. 93 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,280 November 14, 1974- 94 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,600 - Ronnie DeFeo was arrested for the mass murder of his family. 95 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,440 A funeral will be held for the victims. 96 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Three hundred people gather outside the church to show its esteem. 97 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,920 It really shook the community of Amityville. 98 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,720 There was a strong element of Catholicism and religion there. 99 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,920 They were Italians and had statuettes on the front. 100 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:38,320 This was a case where the suburban dream burst. 101 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,480 While the bodies are buried at St. Charles Cemetery, - 102 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,080 - may the prosecution jury seize the mysterious details of the case. 103 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,400 No one said they had heard some of the shots. 104 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:58,560 The boy John Nemeth two houses away said he heard the dog bark. 105 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,040 That was all. The weapon had no silencer. 106 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,960 About nine shots were fired that night. 107 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:10,480 There's a lot of gunfire in a small suburban house at 03.15. 108 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,320 And yet no one heard anything. 109 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,800 It was nice that everyone was lying on their stomachs. No one tried to flee. 110 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,600 No one crawled under the bed. 111 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,600 That is what no one has been able to do explain regarding these killings. 112 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:33,840 But what could get a man to kill his whole family? 113 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Was he a cold-blooded killer ... 114 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,720 ... or a victim of an evil force as he himself claimed? 115 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Ronald's lawyer tried with several different defenses. 116 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,440 On one occasion, Ronald claimed that the mafia killed his family. 117 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,000 Then he heard demons, voices, who commanded him to do so. 118 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 The story became changed time and time again. 119 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,680 In the fall of 1975, Ronald became DeFeo Junior sued. 120 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,840 The gruesome details of the crime shocked society. 121 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Ronald DeFeo testified in court that voices asked him to kill, - 122 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:29,720 -and that he saw a shadow figure who put the rifle in his hands- 123 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,760 -and joined him while committing the killings. 124 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:42,560 During the trial, there was a priest, I do not know his name, - 125 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,920 -who sat in the courtroom and saw me in the witness box. 126 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,440 He thought it worked as if I were possessed by the Devil. 127 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,720 They showed pictures of the bodies. He shot them at close range. 128 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,400 So the pictures were very cruel. 129 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:11,640 A brother had a football injury. He shot him in the spine. 130 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:19,240 Ronnie told how he stood there and saw how his brother's legs twitched. 131 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,560 Ronald DeFeo was convicted six murders and sentenced to life in prison. 132 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,160 The killer is imprisoned, but the brutal act tore up 133 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:45,240 -a spiritual wound in Amityville. That's just the beginning. 134 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:53,320 Amityville Horror House waiting to devour the next victim. 135 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,440 In this to apparently perfect house in Amityville- 136 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,760 -it was committed a heinous crime. 137 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,560 In November 1974 killed Ronald DeFeo Junior- 138 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:18,960 - his whole family and shocked the city. Many wondered why. 139 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,400 Is he sane or not? 140 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:25,320 There were a lot of witnesses, - 141 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:31,080 -including his friends who testified about that was irrational at times. 142 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,080 But sometimes he just played. He knew what he was doing. 143 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,240 DeFeo was convicted, but many difficult questions remain. 144 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,920 Is it possible, as Ronald DeFeo claims, - 145 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:51,320 -that an evil creature in the house drove him to kill the family? 146 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,320 Ronald DeFeo said that there were ghosts in the house. 147 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,680 He said he had devils behind him and that something was wrong with the house. 148 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:15,200 With DeFeo behind lock and key the state prison the house is empty. 149 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,680 A local real estate agent shows it to potential buyers. 150 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,000 Including the newlyweds George and Kathy Lutz. 151 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,240 George and Kathy have both been married before. 152 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,800 They will start with blank sheets 153 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:34,480 -with Kathy's three children. Danny at nine, Chris at seven and Missy at five. 154 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,600 George had been air traffic controller in Boston for several years. 155 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,720 When a relative passed away, - 156 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,840 - he suddenly became owner of Perry, Inc. 157 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,720 It was a surveying company which his grandfather had owned. 158 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,080 He moved back to Long Island and took over the family business. 159 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,200 George then met Kathy Connors. 160 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,400 After meeting Kathy, we did not see him that often. 161 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,280 They met at a restaurant. She was a waitress. 162 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,200 She was very gracious. A very nice person. 163 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Then they got married, and he asked me to be his fiancรฉ. It was me. 164 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:26,200 I got a red toolbox from him. I have it to this day. 165 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,920 We were a lot together as a couple, with my ex-wife. 166 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,000 We had dinner and met the kids. 167 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,760 They started looking for a new house for marriage. 168 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:43,360 George and Kathy both had houses, and the idea was to move together. 169 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,880 When the broker, Edith Evans, showed them the house, she said: 170 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,840 "I want to show you how the other half of Amityville lives. " 171 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,080 She showed them a beautiful house in Dutch colonial style. 172 00:14:54,240 --> 00:15:00,280 The Lutz couple describe the house in this 1979 interview. 173 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:07,960 Can you tell me about the house, George? It's not that old, is it? 174 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,000 No, it was built in 1928. The craftsmanship is amazing. 175 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,720 Moldings, door frames and panels are hand-carved. 176 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,840 Kathy, when you first saw the house, - 177 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,160 - Do you remember how you felt? You were looking for a new home. 178 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,800 - What impression did it give you? - I fell in love with the house. 179 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,680 I think that the house was charming. 180 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,080 But it's not just the physical appearance of the house. 181 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:43,720 Someone, or something, inside the house pretends to entice them. 182 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:54,000 When describing The devil in movies or books, - 183 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,520 -then he is the most interesting the person in the room. Scary. 184 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,960 That one is captivated in a place that is so scary. 185 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,520 The price works too low to be true. 186 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:14,320 $ 80,000 for a large house in one of Amityville's finest areas. 187 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,800 But the Lutz couple do not yet know something about the house's bloody secret. 188 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:25,240 When we first went out with the broker, we did not know what house it was. 189 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,680 That was then we knew we liked it- 190 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,400 -she said "maybe I do should have said so earlier, "- 191 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:37,160 - "but it's in this house The DeFeo killings were committed. " 192 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,280 But they are not superstitious. 193 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,040 George has been a Marine and is not easily intimidated. 194 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,920 We talked a lot with the kids, both one and one and together, - 195 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,920 -on whether they could imagine living in this house. 196 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,240 They had no objections. 197 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,080 George and Kathy Lutz bought the house furnished. 198 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,800 The furniture that was there then the killings was committed, was still there. 199 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,560 They kept even the children's bed frames. 200 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,800 The beds the children lay in when they were shot to death. 201 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,680 According to experts on the supernatural is the risky 202 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,520 -to keep a killed family furniture. 203 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:30,360 After traumatic events, it can the energy will remain in the house. 204 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:35,960 It could be the stones in the foundation, parts of the wall or furniture. 205 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,640 The spirits can also stay there. 206 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,880 It happened so fast that they do not know what happened. 207 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:53,320 If the couple had known the ugly the details, they might have hesitated. 208 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,400 When I told a friend about which house we bought, - 209 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,800 he insisted that we had to let the house bless. 210 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,320 I asked Kathy about it. I was not a Catholic. 211 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,960 She explained that one invites a priest who blesses the house. 212 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,040 To bless the house is an old Christian tradition. 213 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Holy water, incense or blessed salt together with bean 214 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,920 -should keep evil and devilish powers gone. 215 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,320 We have worked with more investigations for churches, - 216 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,920 -which we have written reports about occupation and demon haunting. 217 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,000 And we have let priests from many different religions- 218 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,680 - perform blessings and cleaning of homes. 219 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,360 It usually works because it depends on the person's beliefs. 220 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,200 But sometimes it does not work. 221 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,360 For the blessing contacted George friend father Ralph Pecararo. 222 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,280 He had arranged the cancellation of George's first marriage. 223 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:04,320 I asked Father Ray, and he feel free to come out to bless the house. 224 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,640 DAY 1 225 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,600 The Lutz family moves in. 226 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,680 It's the first one of 28 cruel summer days- 227 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,360 -they have to spend in the former house of DeFeo. 228 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,960 That afternoon is coming Father Ray to bless the house. 229 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:26,880 He has no idea what evil he is going to meet. 230 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,280 Father Ray appeared while we were moving in. 231 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,840 It was the first day in the house, and since then I have thought- 232 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,160 -that one of the things that did the house uninhabitable, was the blessing. 233 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,560 When you bring negative being to do, - 234 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,640 -can a religious provocation- 235 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,880 -including forcing them away, but sometimes it just annoys them. 236 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,640 Then they will really make themselves known. 237 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,120 There is one room in particular which makes Father Ray bad for fashion. 238 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:02,080 Kathy calls it her sewing room. 239 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,280 It was the bedroom where Mark and John DeFeo was brutally killed. 240 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,120 Father Ray talked about their experience once. 241 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,600 In a forgotten edition of "In search of". 242 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:23,040 I blessed the sewing room. It was very cold in there. 243 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,080 I thought it was strange. 244 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,320 It was a beautiful day. Yes, it was winter, - 245 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,760 -but that did not explain the cold. 246 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,360 As the priest sprays holy water in the room, he suddenly hears ... 247 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,600 ... something that sounds like a guttural, demonic voice. 248 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,160 Disappear! 249 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,640 It seemed aimed at me so I was pretty scared. 250 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:03,520 The film shows how Father Ray was attacked by flies in the sewing room. 251 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:09,520 The scene was changed in the movie, but was no less interns in reality. 252 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,560 I was looking for a physical manifestation. It was the flies. 253 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,960 But the thought of that flies was associated with "disappear", - 254 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:25,000 -made it more scary. 255 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,680 Father Ray is deeply frightened and rushes down to the lower floor. 256 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,240 He, thinks that the sewing room is haunted by evil, - 257 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,240 -but is too scared to say it to George and Kathy. 258 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,840 We said "we'll just have it as sewing, not to anything else ". 259 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,600 He said: "It's going well as long as no one sleeps there ". 260 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,120 That was all he said. Then he left. 261 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Support Father Ray on a demon in the house in Amityville that day? 262 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,120 The sun is setting the horror house in Amityville. 263 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,880 For the family Lutz has 28 days of hell just started. 264 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,680 112 Ocean Avenue in Amityville, New York. 265 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,560 Many claim that the house is haunted of a demonic presence. 266 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,640 December 18, 1975 the Lutz family moves in. 267 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:31,560 The first few days are George and Kathy happier than ever. 268 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,280 But the mixed family faces major challenges. 269 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:43,880 You have children whose mother has moved to a strange house 270 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,080 -with a guy they do not know. 271 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Now they have to go to school and hear other children say: 272 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,480 "You live in the DeFeo house. You live in the killing house. " 273 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:02,480 It builds up an energy, like a poison that is heavy and dark. 274 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,520 The family has no idea if the house is haunted by a demon- 275 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:17,120 -or of the murder victims, so can theirs negative energy arouses evil. 276 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,440 Evil leads to more evil. 277 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,600 It is now day four. 278 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:34,320 George has three nights in a row woke up suddenly at 03.15. 279 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,480 That time then Ronald DeFeo killed his family. 280 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,240 3.15 in the morning was much like the ghost class. 281 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,080 It's called the Devil's Hour. 282 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,520 It seems too good to be true. 283 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,680 But the fact is that the DeFeo family was killed at the time. 284 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,840 According to Western Christian tradition djeveltimen, 03.00-04.00, - 285 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,320 -the time when demons and ghosts are most active. 286 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,960 Paranormal investigators speculate about the veil between the spirit world- 287 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:15,040 and the physical plane punctured at that time. 288 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:20,720 The trinity is a blasphemous representation of 289 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,800 -the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. 290 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,840 And that things that appear three and three, has a religious significance. 291 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,520 Kathy is haunted by horrible nightmares about the DeFeo killings. 292 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,240 Kathy Lutz said she had nightmares- 293 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,160 -when she saw who was killed and in what order ... 294 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,440 ... and where the bullets went in and out of the corpses. 295 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,120 Sleepless nights eat away at them 296 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,000 - and exacerbates family problems. 297 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,320 Very close-knit families can eventually be broken down. 298 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,200 A devoted family can be violent. 299 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,640 It may occur physical and emotional abuse. 300 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,200 That goes hand in hand with demon haunting. 301 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,320 George and Kathy's relationship until the children suffer. 302 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Disciplinary punishment will be increasingly common, and stricter. 303 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,320 Danny even told me that while living in the house, - 304 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,160 -beat George and Kathy those with sleiver- 305 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,680 -and forced them to to march around the house as punishment. 306 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,680 It agrees other cases of demon activity. 307 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,600 Families have talked about personality changes, - 308 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,800 anger and rage. The Lutz family split in that way. 309 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,200 Is it the house that tries to occupy George and Kathy? 310 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,400 George feels the cold of evil. 311 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,240 I could not stay warm if I walked away from the fireplace. 312 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,440 I lit a fire with the cardboard boxes. 313 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,440 That was enough luck that I did not burn down the house. 314 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:27,840 December 22, 1975. Kathy Lutz makes lunch in the kitchen. 315 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,720 Suddenly the children scream in panic. She runs up the stairs. 316 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,880 Daniel and Christopher shouted that Kathy should come up. 317 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:43,800 They looked down into the toilet bowl and then black spots. 318 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,800 They seemed to be lowered in the toilet bowl itself. 319 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,080 The children find the same black spots in the other bathrooms. 320 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Kathy checks the sewing room and bumps into it like Father Ray on something horrible. 321 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:04,080 George and Kathy described it like dozens of flies. In the winter. 322 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,320 Father Ray got an earache, and now swarms of flies by the windows. 323 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,960 According to George it was not the first time. 324 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:17,320 The police clearly saw the same amount of flies, - 325 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,960 -if no more, as they came to the house during the night of the murder. 326 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:27,960 I have investigated dozens cases, and I've never seen it before. 327 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:33,600 I think it's related the violent past of the house. 328 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,200 Unfortunately, all signs indicate a classic demon haunt. 329 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,360 For different types of visits, - 330 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,080 -human versus inhuman, different things tend to happen. 331 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,800 In a human haunt- 332 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,600 -are they could only move small objects and make sounds- 333 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,440 -to show that they are there. 334 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,960 In case of inhuman haunts the possibilities are endless. 335 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,120 They can move large objects and cause great pain. 336 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,680 It can build up aggression between family members. 337 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,960 Friends can begin to argue about little things. 338 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:17,640 Family members end up in a frenzy quarrel that sometimes becomes violent. 339 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:25,160 They try to cause so much physically and emotional pain as possible. 340 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,320 They're trying to break one down. 341 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,400 DAY 8 342 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,520 This is the Lutz 'family first Christmas in the house in Amityville. 343 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,240 For a brief moment, they succeed to forget their horrible experiences. 344 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,560 But that night is coming evil back to benefit. 345 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,560 George was awakened around 03.15 in the morning. 346 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,680 The door to the boathouse was open. 347 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,480 It happened quite often while they lived there. 348 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,800 George is looking for signs invaders but find nothing. 349 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,320 I went out to see why the boathouse door was open. 350 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,360 When I came back, I saw something move in Missy's room. 351 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,240 George is terrified. 352 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,840 A gestalt appears in the bedroom window. 353 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,320 He runs to her rescue with the heart in the throat. 354 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:43,000 I can imagine the horror as he ran up the stairs- 355 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,400 -to save his daughter from what was in the room. 356 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,680 But as he storms in the room ... there is nothing there. 357 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,240 Missy sleeps peacefully in her bed. 358 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,200 There was nobody there. But he saw it. It was there, and now it is not. 359 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:08,080 George gets confused. Is it the house that plays him plaster? 360 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:14,000 One of the things that happens is that one doubts one's own senses. 361 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,880 One doubts one's own thoughts. Doubt takes over the mind. 362 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,320 You become insecure what one has always taken for granted. 363 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Sooner or later one doubts one's mental health. 364 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:36,160 DAY 9 365 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,120 The next day, Missyt plays in the room as if nothing had happened- 366 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640 -idet her mother suddenly hear something. 367 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,040 I was standing outside her door and heard her speak. 368 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Can I have a cookie? Do you want more tea? 369 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,280 When I opened the door, she had a small rocking chair on the corner. 370 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 - Missy talked and ... - What are you talking about? 371 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,400 - ... the rocking chair rocked. - Why do you say that? 372 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,200 Another voice was heard, but could not see anyone. 373 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,160 Disappear. You scare me. 374 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760 Afterwards told Missy us about Jodie. 375 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,160 And she said, "Mom, are angels talking?" 376 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,520 Jodie is Missy's new friend. But she's not an angel. 377 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,480 When the demon creature tries to make contact with a child, - 378 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,720 - they present themselves as something which does not seem threatening to the child, - 379 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,920 -so that the child in the end accept them as a friend. 380 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,400 It opens the door for them. 381 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,560 Jodie shows up for Missy as a pig. 382 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,280 An animal form that long has been associated with demons. 383 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,240 There is a text in the Gospel of Matthew, 8.24-32, - 384 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,200 -which mentions that Jesus expelled demons out of occupied men- 385 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,440 -and sent them in to pigs. 386 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,240 The pigs jumped into the water and drowned. 387 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,680 Demon beings have long been described as being with hooves or hooves. 388 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,480 Misy said later that her friend Jodie- 389 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,960 -sometimes was just as great like a teddy bear, 390 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:30,320 -and on other occasions was larger than the house. 391 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,480 The demonic power in the house has taken physical shape. 392 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,920 It is now obvious that children are its main goal. 393 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,880 That Jodie contacts Missy follows the pattern of demon haunting. 394 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,400 It makes contact with the children to work through them, - 395 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,720 -a simultaneous as it trying to break down the family 396 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,880 -and created problems between George, Kathy and the kids. 397 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Missy was not afraid of Jodie. It was just a playmate. 398 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,320 But she should have been terrified of Jodie. 399 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,800 Absolutely. 400 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,920 It's hard to talk about this without sounding crazy. 401 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,200 What we're talking about, do not think like a human being. 402 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040 It has not same values โ€‹โ€‹as we have. 403 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,520 It's from a different time and another place- 404 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,000 - and has goals that we do not understand. 405 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,600 It has now been nine days since the Lutz family moved in. 406 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,560 But George and Kathy feel already powerless against the demon. 407 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,520 In desperation, they contact again friend father Ray Pecararo. 408 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:00,680 They have no idea what the priest supports at the first blessing. 409 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,800 We asked him to come back, but he refused to do so. 410 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:14,040 We were completely crushed. We did not understand why he refused. 411 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,200 Later we understood why. 412 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,440 He had his own problems which he did not tell about. 413 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:30,600 They do not know that Ray has blisters on the hands after the blessing. 414 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,640 I went to the doctor, and he could not explain it. 415 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,400 He said it might be due to anxiety. It is possible. 416 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,040 But I do not think I am brought up for psychosomatic reactions. 417 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,560 The Evil on 112 Ocean Avenue pretends to increase its power. 418 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,800 December 27, 1975. 419 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,400 03.15 wakes up George abruptly by a sharp- 420 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,320 - and unbearable sound. 421 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,800 It sounded like a janissary orchestra that sang. 422 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,160 But Kathy sleeps strangely enough calmly. 423 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,240 George pretends to be the only one who hears it. 424 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,160 There was so much noise. 425 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,200 And I run down to see what it is or what the cause is. 426 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:39,560 When I get halfway down, then it will be quiet. 427 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,760 And the dog lay asleep. He slept like a rock. 428 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,080 Once again, the house pretends to play with George. 429 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:54,680 What other demonic surprises await the family? 430 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,200 DAY ELEVEN 431 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,040 The eleventh day does Kathy a shocking discovery. 432 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,280 I went down to the basement and went over to a bookshelf. 433 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,480 I moved it, and there was no wall behind it. 434 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,200 That was the entrance to a small room painted red. 435 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,880 Could it be the heart of darkness in the house? 436 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,400 Has Kathy found the demon's haunt? 437 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,960 For George and Kathy Lutz- 438 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,760 -have the dream house in Amityville become a nightmare. 439 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,960 DAY ELEVEN 440 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,720 Kathy has discovered a mysterious hidden room in the basement. 441 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,920 Could that be the focal point for a demon haunt? 442 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:04,320 Creatures do not need portals. They just need an opening. 443 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,000 And that house was perfect for that. 444 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,160 The family dog, Harry, is behaving unusual at the red room. 445 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,120 His instincts perceives something predatory. 446 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,040 The strangest thing was then George told that Harry was down there 447 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,760 -and that the dog backed and refused to go near the room. 448 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,240 The rotten stench from the room is even worse. 449 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,640 It was not always there. 450 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,120 When we moved out and talked to the local police- 451 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,120 -about the night of the murder 18 months before we moved in, - 452 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,840 -so they knew same smell when they arrived at the place. 453 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,960 Whatever its true nature is, allows the discovery of space- 454 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,080 -to trigger a new wave of frightening phenomena. 455 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,360 One morning they find a mysterious green substance in the hallway. 456 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:10,840 It was a kind of jelly. The carpets were red, and the substance was green. 457 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,640 It was there in the morning. 458 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,760 It was sticky and wet, and they wiped it away. 459 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,120 The next day it was different, but it was back. 460 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,760 Black epoxy-like tears ran out of keyholes. 461 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,160 Could they be linked to the stains they found in the toilets? 462 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,040 Things that happen in a house, can blur the boundaries of reality, - 463 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,760 -so that one doubts on their own thoughts ... 464 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,960 ... and how things happen in one's home. 465 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,480 One begins to see phenomena which makes you think you're crazy. 466 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,520 "Did that really happen?" 467 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,680 Saw the people in the home isolates themselves from each other. 468 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,560 One begins to doubt what happens around one. 469 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,360 DAY 18 470 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:18,040 On day 18, the couple was terrified and exhausted. 471 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,440 They contacted his friend Joe and his wife Mimi. 472 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:28,120 Joe is an old classmate who was the fiancรฉ at their wedding. 473 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,400 Joe and George take care to ride a motorcycle together. 474 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,560 They arrived unannounced at the house one evening. 475 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:39,640 There was a knock on the door, and there they stood. They came in. 476 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480 The wife made coffee and drinks. 477 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,880 George told us about the house and about what happened there. 478 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:53,840 Things like flies by the windows. It got very cold in the house. 479 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,920 Especially at night, around 2-3. Strange sounds. 480 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,360 The Vetter couple do not know what to believe. 481 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,280 It surprised us. We were amazed. 482 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,000 You hear an incredible story, but it does not hang in the balance. 483 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,320 We had not seen anything. 484 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,600 Then maybe I would have believed more in them. 485 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,640 George and Kathy return to 911 Ocean Avenue. 486 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,040 Oddly enough, it fades the disappointment of the mistrust 487 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,440 - As they approach the house. 488 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,000 The house in Amityville seems to have an energy 489 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,600 -who would keep the family there. It did not want them to let go. 490 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,960 That night, in bed, George's thoughts go dark. 491 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:50,320 The unanswered questions, the isolation ... Everything eats away at him. 492 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,240 The thoughts were not my own. 493 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,000 It was not the way I used to think. 494 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,560 Those were unpleasant things. It is not nice to talk about it. 495 00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:04,720 We're talking about thinking a thought which is contrary to one's own natural 496 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,160 - the way you know you are. 497 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,400 - Violent thoughts? - My answer must stand as it is. 498 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,000 DAY 27 499 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,520 For almost a month, the Lutz couple has been besieged in his own home. 500 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,200 Lonely and attacked, George grasps and Kathy a bold decision. 501 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:29,160 To bless the house for yourself to try to drive out the demon. 502 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:37,080 A friend showed how to walk through the house and bless it. 503 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:41,960 It is a dangerous and last attempt on driving out evil. 504 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,240 - But will it work? -It is easy. 505 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,080 You go from room to room, opens a window and prays the Lord's prayer. 506 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:55,800 One asks what is there to go, and then you move on. 507 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,160 The Lutz couple perform the blessing with bible and crucifix in hand. 508 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,320 George has his doubts. 509 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,000 I thought we already had blessed the house. 510 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,520 But if it works, then fine. So we prayed, opened the window- 511 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,440 -and commanded what was there about leaving the house of Jesus' name. 512 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:20,040 But as they walk through the house, they encounter fierce resistance. 513 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,960 We heard a chorus of voices who said, "Can you quit?" 514 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,440 When it happened, one got the feeling that it did not work. 515 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,040 It can be compared to when Father Ray heard 516 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,400 the voice that begged him to disappear. They did what they could 517 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,960 -as best they could, and it did not go as they wanted. 518 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,480 What is there, tries to hold again the family. The longer they succeed, - 519 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,000 -the stronger they can get. 520 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,480 Its goal is to destroy the family. 521 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,560 What Happened to the Lutz Family, 522 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:08,440 -was that it wanted them, exactly as it got hate on the DeFeo family. 523 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,040 Once again begins the visit at 03.15, - 524 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:22,280 -when George Lutz wakes up same time as the killings. 525 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,200 There was a storm outside, and it was quite violent. 526 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,160 But something was wrong. 527 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:39,360 As George tries to move, he realizes that his limbs are locked. 528 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,360 They are paralyzed. 529 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:49,160 Then he hears a deafening crash from the stepson's bedroom. 530 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,240 I have clear memories of me could not move in bed- 531 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,320 -and that I heard the boys' beds thump up. 532 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:02,800 I could not get up to see what happened. 533 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,000 That a parent feels paralyzed in bed- 534 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,360 -while something happens to the children, is a scary situation. 535 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,200 I can hardly imagine it. 536 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,520 George slowly turns towards Kathy for help. She's not there. 537 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,200 Terrified, he sees his body her soar over the bed. 538 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,400 Kathy hovered over the bed and began slowly- 539 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,760 -to soar against the wall, away from him. 540 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:42,200 He could not move. He tried to scream, but could not. 541 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:50,520 Then George knows a presence at the foot of the bed. 542 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,240 It was a fear like mine can not describe so well. 543 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,920 I felt something go up in bed and on the mattress. 544 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,600 He said it was a figure with hover that went on his chest. 545 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,200 All this supernatural the circus took place according to George. 546 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,360 Shadows moved in the hallway outside the door, - 547 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040 -but he came anyway not getting out of bed. 548 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,160 On one occasion he said that he made two different sounds. 549 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:28,440 One was like a low, moaning and lamenting sound from within. 550 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,120 A scream like broke out of his body. 551 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,280 George is struggling his whole being to break free. 552 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,680 The muscles feel as if they are about to burst. 553 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,760 In a way, he manages to pull Kathy down to bed. 554 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,120 The paralysis is broken. 555 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,120 But the continuous supernatural the attack had just begun. 556 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,680 The next few hours is a fog of horrible memories. 557 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,920 I have clear memories of our dog Harry. 558 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,000 He got up, went in a circle and lay down again. 559 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,240 Then he got up and spat, and then he lay down again. 560 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,080 Danny Lutz told me that the bed was lifted up to the ceiling. 561 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,400 Both his and Christopher's beds did. 562 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:30,320 Kathy wakes up, George watches her and is terrified. 563 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,920 When I looked up, I saw what made him back off. 564 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,280 That was my reflection. 565 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:41,240 My hair had changed color to greyish white. 566 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:47,560 My face was heavily wrinkled with deep furrows across the forehead. 567 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,840 While the storm rages on reaches its climax. 568 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:05,120 The front door slams again and again. The dog howls in fear. 569 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,320 But suddenly it becomes completely quiet. 570 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:16,000 Kathy is slowly recovering. The spell is broken. 571 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,280 When the boys came down in the morning, were they terrified. 572 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,640 They could not reach me, and I could not reach them. 573 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,760 Missy came in and just asked: "What was that thing for?" 574 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,600 They were insecure and contacted father Ray Pecararo a third time. 575 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,400 The priest who originally blessed the house. 576 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,320 We really tried to reach Father Ray. 577 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,480 It was not before he actually told us- 578 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:56,600 -that we had to leave the house that it occurred to me at all. 579 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,440 But despite the night of hell- 580 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,040 -is there something in them who opposes moving out. 581 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,640 The house still has them in their vicious claws. 582 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,040 Often when it comes to so-called demon haunts, - 583 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:22,960 - it's extremely difficult to leave the house and cut the connections. 584 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,160 You stay in a way depending on what's there. 585 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,880 One feels a connection whether it is positive or negative. 586 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,360 It's an affiliation. 587 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,760 It feels like you are struggling with yourself in pieces if you cut the ribbon. 588 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,040 But Father Ray's encouragement keeps on breaking the spell. 589 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,880 As in slow motion family bags and getting ready to go. 590 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,320 They felt confused. 591 00:48:53,480 --> 00:49:00,120 He talked about that they do not be able to communicate and just go. 592 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,320 The whole day was a long process of collecting clothes 593 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,360 -and get everything in order, so they could get in the car, - 594 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,520 -leave the house and go to Kathy's mother. 595 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,960 Four o'clock in the afternoon they get in the family van. 596 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,560 But the house offers resistance. It refuses to let them go. 597 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,760 It knocked in the car all the way from Amityville, from the outside. 598 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,400 And I remember that we was thrown around a part of the road. 599 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,480 The Lutz family have experienced unimaginable fears. 600 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,480 They are fleeing the house in Amityville. 601 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:59,080 But are they really free? Can the being follow them? 602 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,040 After surviving 28 horrible days- 603 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:09,600 has the Lutz family fled 112 Ocean Avenue in Amityville. 604 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,960 The house is once again empty, but hungry for new victims. 605 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,720 George Lutz contacts experts on the supernatural 606 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,680 -hope to find someone who can "fix" the house. 607 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,160 He contacts Jerry Solfvin, who is a parapsychologist 608 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,000 -on the Psychical Research Foundation in Durham, North Carolina. 609 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,800 80 miles south of Amityville- 610 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,680 Jerry Solfvin specializes on examining hauntings- 611 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,640 -and the question of whether it exists an afterlife or not. 612 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,280 Today, in 2020, it is common to find ghost hunters 613 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,440 -who goes out and does a "study" of ghosts and haunts. 614 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,600 Their goals are very different our goal with the research foundation. 615 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,520 The goal of the ghost hunters seems to be determining 616 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,440 -that they certainly have found something that is supernatural. 617 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,440 In parapsychology it's just the beginning. 618 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,800 A parapsychologist is above all a researcher 619 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,080 -who is educated in scientific method- 620 00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:31,520 -and who do studies of supernatural activities. 621 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,240 But we often got phones from people who said: 622 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,280 "I have a ghost at home." 623 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,600 It was obviously interesting for us. 624 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:49,680 Then we said, "We have a case that works inexplicable by ordinary means. " 625 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,640 We have a person who claims to have a ghost in their home. 626 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,200 We can confirm it in different ways. 627 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,960 But we can never confirm it completely. 628 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,800 We can not come and say: "Yes, you have a ghost." 629 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,880 It is impossible when research methods works as they do. 630 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:17,880 Research methods can exclude opportunities, do not prove anything. 631 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:24,960 When George Lutz called me at the Research Foundation, - 632 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:31,920 - he wanted to tell me about what he had experienced in his home. 633 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,760 It was the first time I heard that something unusual was going on there. 634 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,680 Jerry Solfvin agrees to send a field investigator 635 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,120 -to do a preliminary investigation. 636 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,560 George is hungry for a quick answer, but Solfvin resists. 637 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:55,240 I said to George, "I have no doubt that you're trying to be honest. " 638 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:00,960 "But they can be many explanations of the experiences. " 639 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,640 The parapsychologist works slowly. Too slow for George Lutz. 640 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:15,000 Since the escape, he has arrived to believe that what drove the family out, - 641 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,720 -also may have possessed Ronald Defeo and made him kill the family. 642 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,200 Ronald DeFeo needed psychological help. 643 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,760 We never doubted that he was influenced by the house. 644 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:36,000 That meant the verdict for six killings should be changed. 645 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,360 We should try to do something. 646 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,480 So via some friends they contacted his lawyer. 647 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:49,120 February 15, 1976 George attended and Kathy at a press conference 648 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,840 -with Ronald DeFeos attorney William Weber. 649 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:57,800 They talk about the atrocities. The reaction is immediate. 650 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,960 The case became a huge news. 651 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:06,200 The explanation was taken up of all major news media. 652 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,600 The Lutz couple begins to lose control. 653 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,600 As fast as it started, terminates the relationship with the lawyer- 654 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,600 -idet he asks them to give him full control over the explanation. 655 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,720 It was a ridiculous deal. 656 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:29,760 They were only allowed to talk about the facts of the case. Otherwise he would take over the house. 657 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,400 They disappear from the spotlight to drop the attention. 658 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,200 But a young reporter from Channel 5 in New York find them. 659 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,800 I called George Lutz's company. 660 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,440 "I'm Laura DiDio from the news on Channel 5. " 661 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:54,760 I know serious psychic investigators and would like to help you. 662 00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:00,720 Kathy and George agreed to tell about the haunt. 663 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,560 I sat with them for five hours while they told. 664 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,960 They were very convincing. 665 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,600 If they invented everything, they were of their time Meryl Streep and Robert De Niro. 666 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,560 They quickly agree with Laura's proposal. 667 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:22,680 An exclusive review which is filmed by Channel 5. 668 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,440 Laura contacts Ed and Lorraine Warren. 669 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,720 Ed is a demonologist, and Lorraine is a medium. 670 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:38,240 Ed and Lorraine Warren are pioneers within the supernatural field. 671 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:43,720 They opened the eyes of the world for the supernatural. 672 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,080 So we arranged it so that they was to come down the next day. 673 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:52,760 I would also say that Ed and Lorraine never demanded money. 674 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:59,920 They just wanted compensation for petrol and tolls. Reasonable. 675 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,640 This was not "The Demons of Amityville". 676 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,920 It was just another haunted house. So we went there. 677 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,200 That was the start an adventure we never forgot. 678 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,360 A supernatural adventure. 679 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:23,320 The Warren couple starts with an interview with George and Kathy. 680 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,720 I organized it and introduced the Warren- 681 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,280 -for the Lutz couple at Kathy's mother's home. 682 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:39,440 We sat there, and Ed Warren is a very direct investigator. 683 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,080 He wanted all the details in order. 684 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:50,000 So he started questioning Kathy and George about what had happened. 685 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,360 The interview gets off to a difficult start. 686 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,320 George was reluctant, - 687 00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:01,200 -and I remember Ed getting angry on George, and George became angry. 688 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:08,240 There were almost fights. Lorraine and Kathy had to separate. 689 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,240 Ed said, "If you do not tells what we need to know "- 690 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:17,240 - "to investigate this, then I will leave. " 691 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,160 "I'm not wasting time." That was not the case. 692 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,240 Despite the conflict- 693 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:27,480 -be Ed and Lorraine Warren The Lutz couple's leading supporters. 694 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:37,800 February 24, 1976 the couple meets Warren, Laura Didio and a TV team- 695 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,400 -George Lutz outside his former home. 696 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,160 I asked George if he were to join. 697 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,600 But he said "no, I had to to leave since you were late ". 698 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,000 "I was nauseous of sitting outside the house. " 699 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,680 "I'm not going in again." So he gave us the keys. 700 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,800 I went into the house with camera people and Ed and Lorraine Warren. 701 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,560 The house did stood empty for several weeks. 702 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,680 But you could see that the family had left in a hurry. 703 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,520 Things were left on the kitchen counter, the dishes were in the sink. 704 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,680 The gingerbread house as Kathy had made for Christmas, - 705 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,600 -stood on the dining table. 706 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,200 The house seemed to be waiting that the inhabitants should come. 707 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,440 Ed and Lorraine do not know yet, - 708 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:37,160 -but a nifst coincidence ties them already to the house. 709 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,800 At the exact time- 710 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:47,640 -when Ronald DeFeo was killed his whole family in this house- 711 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,720 at 112 Ocean Avenue in Amityville, Ed's mother passed away. 712 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:58,200 On her death certificate is written exactly the same time. 713 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,280 Ed and Lorraine Warren were very spiritual investigators. 714 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,360 They used to perform sessions in different places on the property- 715 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,600 -to get in touch with what was there. 716 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,120 We have always looked at that as a dangerous type of investigation. 717 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,440 As we walked through the house with Lorraine, Ed supervised her. 718 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,040 He went ahead and said, "How are you?" 719 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,640 He had his crucifix and holy water. 720 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,720 Lorraine gave us her impressions. She became nauseous. 721 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:37,040 She got a headache in certain parts of the house. 722 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,320 Lorraine is clairvoyant and is psychic in trance. 723 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,200 She knows the presence of nders, but can not talk to them. 724 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,080 Waves of violent mental energy overturns Lorraine. 725 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,840 Drap. Destructions. 726 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,200 Madness. 727 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,000 I started walking up the stairs. 728 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:04,320 It was like walking towards a waterfall. 729 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,920 The power was so strong. 730 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:13,720 When she went into DeFeos, and Lutz ', master bedroom, she became ill. 731 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,960 She felt the violence, and it made her nauseous. 732 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:24,320 Lorraine pauses for a moment, shocked by the intensity. 733 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,960 Demonologist Ed is down. 734 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,880 He hopes that religious provocation to bring out the demon in the basement. 735 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,520 I usually go down to the basement, the lowest part of the house. 736 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,840 It is often the darkest room in the house. Evil thrives there. 737 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,640 It survives. It abhors the light of God. 738 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:53,080 But Ed has no idea what evil lurks there. 739 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,960 Amityville Horror House may be the scene 740 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,200 - for a unique demonic haunt. 741 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,160 On February 24, 1976 investigates the famous demonologists Ed- 742 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,080 - and the Lorraine Warren house. 743 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:18,560 While Lorraine is upstairs, Ed goes down to the basement. 744 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:24,200 I brought out a crucifix and demanded in the name of Jesus and the blood of Jesus 745 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,520 -that what was there, should turn out. 746 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,200 I never got such a quick reaction. 747 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,280 I went into what we call religious resistance. 748 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:39,160 I commanded it in the name of Jesus to give way and travel his way. 749 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,280 Then it eased instantly. 750 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,320 It's the scariest the experience the Warren couple has had. 751 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,440 They are shaken. They know they need help. 752 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,640 They can not meet this evil on its own. 753 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,840 Lorraine knew a oppressive presence in the house. 754 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:07,400 She did not think it was DeFeos ghosts. That surprised me. 755 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:13,080 She thought it was a demonic, devilish presence. 756 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:18,440 So we decided that Warrens should hold a session- 757 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,080 -and that we should gather again in a week or two. 758 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,040 But the rumor spreads quickly, and the guest list grows. 759 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:33,600 Without us knowing about it, contacted George Lutz other investigators. 760 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,720 So when we got permission from Lutz to hold the session on March 6, - 761 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,880 - we did not know that so many should be there. 762 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,360 Investigators and journalists gather at Amityville's horror house. 763 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,280 Together participate almost twenty people. 764 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,000 Men George Lutz refuses to enter the house. 765 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,880 One of the first to arrive, is parapsychologist Jerry Solfvin. 766 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,560 As I walked towards the door, other cars came behind me. 767 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,000 It was Ed and Lorraine Warren. 768 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,840 Laura DiDio and the TV team from Channel 5 arrives. 769 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,800 This time with anchor veteran Marvin Scott. 770 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:21,480 My editor said I should go there after the Saturday broadcast. 771 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,560 I was skeptical, but hoped for an interview with something. 772 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,320 I was hoping to see something. 773 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,160 The main performance is a session in the dining room on the ground floor. 774 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,960 Warrens hopes to get in touch the creatures that haunt the house. 775 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,080 To communicate with the dead Spirits are an ancient tradition. 776 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,120 But the session is a relatively new invention. 777 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,680 It was popularized in the 19th century of the spiritualist movement. 778 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,840 Sessions are a dangerous one examination method. 779 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,920 One may encounter inhuman beings- 780 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,240 -which may have the ability to take control over one if they get the chance. 781 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,160 At midnight it begins. 782 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,240 Media Mary Pascarella and Alberta Riley- 783 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,160 - clashes with America's worst house. 784 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,640 It's like a black shadow 785 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,480 -which forms a hood. It's moving. 786 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,720 I had never been on a similar session. 787 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:36,960 There was the blessed light, a crucifix and two media 788 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,440 -which talked about what they experienced right then. 789 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:46,800 I sat there full of anticipation. What would happen afterwards? 790 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,880 It's something that ... Whatever is here ... 791 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,520 Whatever is here ... 792 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,800 - Are they trying to harm them? -Yes. 793 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:06,400 It is something that comes to one and causes the heart rate to increase. 794 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,920 The session confirms Warren's biggest fear. 795 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:18,120 Lorraine repeated that it existed a dark presence there, - 796 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:23,240 -and that a priest had to get there and perform an exorcism. 797 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,920 The intense psychic battle overwhelms Mary Pascarella. 798 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:35,520 I had a small room up there. It was probably Missy's bedroom. 799 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:38,760 It was my refuge. 800 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,880 I told Ed that I was going to lay me down for a while. 801 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,200 So I began to pray the Lord's prayer and looked out the door. 802 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:54,520 There I saw a group of figures who prayed backwards. 803 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,880 Can Missys fantasy friend, - 804 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:04,320 the demon pig who played angel, be among them? 805 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,760 I took the holy water and threw it out to the figures. 806 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:19,920 I took the cross, lifted it, said: "God is with me" and threw it. 807 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:26,600 Do you have all the water on a fire? It kind of mills. 808 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,880 That's how it sounded. 809 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:36,280 The TV team from Channel 5 also experience scary things. 810 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:42,360 What I remember best was ours cameraman Steve Petropolis. 811 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,840 He was very fit and used to run marathons. 812 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:54,200 He went upstairs the light meter to check the rooms. 813 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,160 He came about five steps when he turned to me and said: 814 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,200 "There's a room up there, the other door on the right, "- 815 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:09,040 - "where one of the walls is covered by mirrors. " 816 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,120 Then he said: "I do not know how I know." 817 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:19,240 At that time there were not many photos from the house have been published. 818 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,600 Especially not from the Lutz family's time there. 819 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:30,760 Steve Petropolis continued up the stairs with its light meter. 820 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,840 He reached the top of the stairs. 821 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:39,160 There he turned around and bowed in pain. 822 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,480 His face was contorted, and he took care of his chest. 823 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:48,440 I could see that his face faded. 824 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,640 Then it became very red, and he began to sweat. 825 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,760 Someone rushed up to help him down, - 826 01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,240 - Put him down and give him some water. 827 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,960 He said he felt that he had had a palpitation. 828 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,560 He thought it was a heart attack. He had no heart problems. 829 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,760 The investigators are spreading. 830 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,920 Lorraine impresses from the second floor of the house. 831 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,280 The feeling was very pressing. 832 01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:25,640 The spirits seemed to be there to mock us. 833 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:32,680 It was awful. I knew Georges and Kathy's fear and anxiety. 834 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,200 Lorraine Warren said: "Follow me, Marvin." 835 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,880 We went to the sewing room at 03.15. 836 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:46,040 That was when the killings were committed and where the force was strongest. 837 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,400 When I entered the room, I remember saying: 838 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:57,200 "I hope I do not come closer to hell than this. " 839 01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:02,280 That was how I felt in that room. It was cruel. 840 01:09:02,440 --> 01:09:08,280 Lorraine is overwhelmed by the impression of the violent past of space. 841 01:09:08,440 --> 01:09:13,440 She's backing up. It's too much even for an experienced investigator. 842 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,920 The memories of the rest of the evening is cloudy. 843 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:24,360 My memory of the third floor is almost erased. 844 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,400 I really did not want to go up there. 845 01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:33,480 At sunrise the investigation is interrupted. 846 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,880 The Warren couple are convinced that the house is full of demons. 847 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,920 They got the impression that there were many malicious spirits 848 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:48,600 -on the property that created the situation they had lived with. 849 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,240 Ed and Lorraine said to them: "We can not fix this." 850 01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:00,520 "We do not know what to do. This is the worst house in the United States. " 851 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,040 What do you do then? 852 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,520 George and Kathy Lutz feel defeated. 853 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,800 They can not ask a priest and exorcism. It's too dangerous. 854 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,800 They continued to pay the loan for several months- 855 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,760 -before they realized that they could not fix it. 856 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,120 So they decided to return the house to the bank. 857 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:26,200 George asks some motorcycle buddies about picking up some things in the house. 858 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:31,320 Joe Vetter is one of them. The first to hear the story. 859 01:10:31,480 --> 01:10:33,520 He is still skeptical. 860 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:38,120 George asked some people about going there on a certain day- 861 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,520 -to pick up the children medical records and school papers. 862 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,000 But the house is scary quiet. 863 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:51,680 None of them know what to believe about the stories of haunting. 864 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:57,160 They settle down and relax for a while in Amityville's horror house. 865 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,360 We had a beer on the stairs to the house. 866 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:05,080 Although we had heard that we should not eat or drink anything. 867 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:09,120 I do not know where the cake came from. 868 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:14,280 But we sat and talked about us sitting there in the house. 869 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:20,000 So we drank a little, laughed a little and left. That was all. 870 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:26,680 George's friends did not catch a glimpse the horror the family has gone through. 871 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,160 But for George Lutz, the house is alive. 872 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,120 He talked to Lorraine Warren in this interview. 873 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:40,480 I always meant that house just then was very intelligent. 874 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:46,800 Yes, something of a spiritual nature may have been done in that house. 875 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,400 For how could anyone find peace in this house? 876 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,760 And how can one live in a home without peace? 877 01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:02,160 Peace is so important. You were a loving couple. 878 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:09,120 Love conquers all, but it became too much for you. 879 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,560 Along with some simple assets- 880 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:18,360 travel George, Kathy and the children towards a new life. 881 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,200 They buy one-way tickets to California. 882 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:27,320 George's boat, motorcycles and car they leave. 883 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,640 We gave the car to the guy in the ticket office at JFK. 884 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:38,440 We saw: "Here is the key and the wagon card". 885 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,320 On Mother's Day 1976- 886 01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:47,120 - landed our plane in San Diego. 887 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:53,800 Only time will tell if evil follows them. 888 01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:01,040 Personally, it was another epilogue 889 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,080 -after that night for me. 890 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,640 I was wondering how it would have been- 891 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,600 -to just go inside and 911 Ocean Avenue- 892 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,720 -while the house was quiet and empty. 893 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:21,680 But I did not want to go alone. I did it in the middle of the day. 894 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,000 I took my dog โ€‹โ€‹Fritz with me. I walked around the house. 895 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,560 That was how we had left it. 896 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:33,760 No one had been there. The gingerbread house remained. 897 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,360 Suddenly I heard Fritz growl. 898 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:44,600 He was standing in the foyer and stood in front of the stairs. 899 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:50,560 He stared at a point on the stairs. 900 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:57,760 Fritz had raised his bust from neck to tail. 901 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,720 The ears were folded back, and he had bared teeth. 902 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:06,800 He stood still and just looked and growled. 903 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:12,120 I thought, "Well, well." That was where everyone got bad. 904 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,760 That was Lorraine Warren became nauseous and had a headache. 905 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:23,520 But I started walking up the stairs. I came halfway. 906 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,760 Then I saw: "This is probably not a good idea." 907 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:32,040 I got a very spooky feeling of the dog's reaction. 908 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:38,440 I had never before, either later, see him react like that. 909 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,000 It's now January 1977. 910 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:48,400 Several months after the family Lutz 'escape, the house is empty. 911 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,560 The famous ghost hunter Hans Holzer is now on site- 912 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,640 -to try their own theories about the DeFeo killings. 913 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:02,200 Laura DiDio was there, engaged as a researcher by Holzer. 914 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:09,080 Hans contacted me in November and said he was going to write a book. 915 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,720 "Can you help me with the surveys? " 916 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:17,640 "And I want to bring Ethel Johnson to the house. " 917 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,760 She was the medium he worked with. "We are doing our own investigation." 918 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,800 Ethel Johnson is a trans medium. 919 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:34,880 She opens up for communication with the other side. 920 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,840 Then spirits can make contact and communicate through her. 921 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:46,800 Certain trans media say that they are physically affected by the spirits. 922 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,800 I met his at the house with Mrs. Johnson. 923 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,200 I was going to take care of the camera. 924 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:59,440 But the camera froze, and we tried to get it started. 925 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,320 It was not that cold. 926 01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:07,720 It was probably just a freezing cold. The camera should not have frozen. 927 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,280 Holzer moves on with the investigation. 928 01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:15,520 Mrs. Johnson went into a trance. It was very interesting. 929 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,800 She was probably in her seventies then. 930 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,040 A spirit guide appeared, and it was a man. 931 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,800 Then suddenly a big one appeared adamseple up on her neck. 932 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,080 In trance, Ethel Johnson claims that the house in Amityville- 933 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,720 -was built at an old cemetery. 934 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:40,800 Holzer believes that is the source of it the house's paranormal activities. 935 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:47,280 That's a shock and controversial claim. 936 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:57,760 I also found that a skeleton washed up by a cloudburst in 1905. 937 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:04,080 The skull of the skeleton was broken off of a young boy, a child. 938 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,760 After that began phenomena to occur in the house. 939 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:18,960 4800 km away, in San Diego, does not escape the Lutz family. 940 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,560 They want to tell their own story and contact a publisher. 941 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,440 The book will be published tomorrow with the alleged true story- 942 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,920 - about the Lutz family. 943 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,760 It was not just one thing that happened. 944 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:38,400 There was a crowd terrifying events. 945 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,280 The book becomes immediate a bestseller. 946 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:47,320 When the book came out, the public embraced it. 947 01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:50,800 They would understand and see if it was real. 948 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:56,360 Is the house in Amityville haunted or a scam? 949 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,080 Are there actually demons? 950 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,960 We have always fought for their reputation, - 951 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:09,640 -and we were so furious on these skeptics. 952 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,640 What do they know about the house or the family? Have they read a book? 953 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,640 The struggle for faith in the supernatural has only just begun. 954 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,240 Devils exist, demons exist. 955 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,840 Skeptics are the best protection of the devils. 956 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,280 According to George and Kathy Lutz- 957 01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:37,080 -is this house in Amityville full of demons. 958 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:41,480 Their story becomes a best-selling book, and 1979- 959 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:47,480 -the horror film is released "The Demons of Amityville". 960 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,800 I'm Jackie Stone. This is where it should have happened. 961 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,760 The film's curious fans pilgrimages to Amityville- 962 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,880 - to get a glimpse of the house itself. 963 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:06,280 - Do you think this really happened? -Yes. I believe in the Devil. 964 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,480 Why did you come? to look at the house tonight? 965 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,280 We came here from Chicago to see it. 966 01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:20,520 - Do you believe in the stories? -Yes. 967 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:27,840 The film splits the United States in those who believe in history- 968 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,640 - and those who do not believe. 969 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,480 -Fear or scam? -Treachery. 970 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,640 Not a single person in Amityville believe in it. 971 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,960 "The Demons of Amityville" beat ticket record. 972 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,120 The movie costs three million dollars to make. 973 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,920 It was for a long time the most successful the low budget movie ever. 974 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,240 They made a hundred million dollars on the investment. 975 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,960 George and Kathy Lutz become stars overnight. 976 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,520 I want to present a special couple. 977 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:10,480 They owned the strange house in Amityville. 978 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,040 Why did you go? public out with it? 979 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,120 This will probably happen to follow you for a long time. 980 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:27,560 Before we did, others did it for us. 981 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,720 They spread exaggerated stories- 982 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,920 -in the press and mass media. 983 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:40,600 To be able to correct it and could live with it- 984 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,760 -then we had to to tell our story. 985 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,560 Fame leads to criticism. 986 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:51,920 An army of skeptics chases the couple, and not entirely without reason. 987 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:56,240 George, Kathy and the children has said that the book was embroidered 988 01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,880 -and that things that did not happen, was added. Especially in the movie. 989 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,000 It is common when you look a book being filmed. 990 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,440 Then you change things to make it more scary. 991 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,040 William Weber, Ronald DeFeo's lawyer, 992 01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,600 -who killed his family in the house, becomes a leading critic. 993 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,240 Their brief conversations with Weber going to haunt them. 994 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:28,080 They played the tape like they did recorded by the meeting with Weber. 995 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:33,360 And they said to me that they were not so proud of it. 996 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:38,000 On the audiotape with William Weber and George and Kathy Lutz- 997 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:42,520 -they discussed book and film contracts. 998 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,000 William Weber said at de be able to expand the narrative- 999 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,880 -and exaggerate to make more interested. 1000 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,080 The couple acknowledges some exaggerations, - 1001 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:59,000 -but insists that the basic story is true. 1002 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:05,800 They were even tested with lie detector by a leading expert. 1003 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,520 It's a long process. You can not just connect. 1004 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,320 You have to agree on the questions. They find a bottom line- 1005 01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:16,640 -and do a physical examination to check the baseline 1006 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,920 - so that they get proper answers. 1007 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,040 They passed the test without any problems. 1008 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:27,160 The result proves that they both believe that the house was haunted. 1009 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:33,640 The result also adds new energy investigators Lorraine and Ed Warren, - 1010 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,200 - which will prove the existence of the devil. 1011 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,840 Many out there have heard that the Amityville case is a hoax. 1012 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,760 Why? 1013 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:50,040 Because atheists do not want to that someone out there should believe 1014 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:56,760 -that a home like the house in Amityville may be haunted by demons. 1015 01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,680 Their seagull is killing all the faith you know. 1016 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:07,920 The Evil George and Kathy Lutz felt, still haunting them. 1017 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,480 In 1980, four years later that they fled the house, - 1018 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,640 -they meet the archbishop by Canterbury's exorcist. 1019 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:23,800 Pastor Neil-Smith had performed exorcism hundreds of times. 1020 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,080 They became friends with him during a book tour. 1021 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:31,400 Pastor Neil-Smith looked at Kathy and said, "You're still affected." 1022 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,560 Evil powers can follow people. 1023 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,800 The Lutz couple moved, but the evil energy followed. 1024 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:47,120 It haunted the whole family for several years. 1025 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,800 The house had an extensive effect. 1026 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,360 It was not just a haunted house- 1027 01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:00,160 -which one could visit and then leave to have peace. 1028 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:06,800 But in 1980 is the treatment of victims for haunting still something new. 1029 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:13,320 Some would call it exorcism. I considered it a blessing. 1030 01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:16,560 It was a separation ritual in the Anglican Church. 1031 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,000 It separated us from the house and its power. 1032 01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:24,560 Miraculously, it works. 1033 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:30,840 The priest performed a kind of exorcism. But they were not obsessed, - 1034 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:36,000 -so he performed a separation ritual. 1035 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,480 There is a difference. George and Kathy were not obsessed, - 1036 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,480 -like Linda Blair in "The Exorcist." 1037 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:48,920 They were divorced the black cloud that overshadowed them. 1038 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,520 God... 1039 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:58,840 The evil influence of the house is broken, and with time it fades. 1040 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,200 We came to believe, and have looked at it like that since, - 1041 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,520 - that this had a "half-life". 1042 01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,360 So with the passage of time- 1043 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:14,000 -became mental and emotional the link weaker and weaker. 1044 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:20,480 The Lutz family has moved on, however the horror of Amityville lives on. 1045 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,640 The house is still there, but has been rebuilt several times- 1046 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,960 -and have lost its typical quarter moon windows. 1047 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,560 Later owners tried to remove "the evil eyes" from the movie. 1048 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,520 It has been bought and sold several times since the Lutz family moved. 1049 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:48,600 Welcome to Amityville. The place's most famous house is for sale. 1050 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,960 I do not know if it's imagination, - 1051 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,160 -but I can really feel it. 1052 01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:02,680 None of the residents have said something about funny experiences. 1053 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:08,800 Laura DiDio has been a bit bizarre conversations with previous owners. 1054 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,080 In ten minutes told the now former owner- 1055 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:15,120 -why she thought that it was nonsense and deception. 1056 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:21,120 But when I mentioned Danny Lutz, it was like pressing a button. 1057 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:25,560 "It was him and George who let the darkness into this house! " 1058 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,040 It was shocking. 1059 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:32,640 Is 112 Ocean Avenue America's worst house? 1060 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,000 I think something happened there. 1061 01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:41,440 I really believe that something strange happened there. 1062 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:47,280 I could see George in his eyes when he talked about it- 1063 01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:50,360 -he and his family experienced in Amityville. 1064 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,840 When one has the close contact with someone 1065 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:58,080 -and have the opportunity to look inside in their heart as they speak, - 1066 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,880 -then you can see how they responds to different things. 1067 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,800 It was very real for George. 1068 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,880 The family thinks they experienced something. 1069 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:12,960 To what extent we will probably never know. 1070 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,480 But the story, the book and the film- 1071 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,440 - we'm still talking about 40 years later. 1072 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,880 So we have to look at it as if it opened the door 1073 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,520 -for a fascination for the supernatural. 1074 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,600 I know there are haunted houses. 1075 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:38,040 I know families can move out, and other families can move in, - 1076 01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,600 -without anything ever happening. But not that house. 1077 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:51,040 I never said I would not have received the house as a gift. 1078 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:55,200 Text: Morten Gottschalk www.sdimedia.com 1079 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:55,960 andnbsp; 97872

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