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Our skies are full of mysteries...
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Secretly investigated by government agencies
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all over the world for decades.
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People are absolutely
fascinated by this subject,
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and there are so many people out there
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who want to know the truth.
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For the fit rstime,
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we've collected sightings and reports
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from around the globe.
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The incident bneurd such
an impact in my memory
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that I don't think I'll ever
be able to forget it.
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Some experts insist many sightings
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have rational explanations.
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Even the most careful ufo researcher
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can fall victim to a cleverly perpetrated hoax.
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But a few continue to defy understanding.
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Th uisfo incident
was and remains unexplained.
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Are these visitors from other worlds
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or natural phenomena?
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And do the nation's governments know more
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than they ever reveal to us?
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The answer may lie in the files
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of these untold stories of ufos.
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Rendlesham, england, December 26, 1980.
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On a high-security U.S. air base,
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bizarre events are unfolding.
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An unknown object caught on radar,
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mysterious lights in the forest,
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and the strange experience of
two air force security guards.
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Then, all of a sudden, we came into a clearing,
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and there was a bright light,
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and the whole woods lit up.
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We hit the ground.
We didn't know
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we thought it was gonna
be an explosion or something.
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The rendlesham forest incident
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is one of the most mysterious
of all ufo tales.
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This is clearly britain's most interesting
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and compelling ufo encounter.
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Rendlesham has since become
known as britain's roswell.
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Now, 30 years later,
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more evidence brings the case to life
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once again.
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Air traffic controller Nigel kerr
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reveals his acuncot of an unknown object
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detected on radar that night.
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I saw something.
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Bentwaters told me they'd seen something.
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And you think, what really happened trehe?
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Bentwaters U.S. military base.
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It's the early hours of the morning.
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Air force security guards John burroughs
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and Jim penniston witness
a strange light over the forest.
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It almost looked like a Christmas light,
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like a display of different-colored lights.
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Concerned it may be a crashing aircraft,
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they go to investigate.
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We decided to open up the gate,
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drive down to the end of the road,
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and see if we could get a better idea
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of what we were dealing with.
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Ase wgot into the woods,
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it seemed like we were having
trouble gauging exactly
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where it was at first.
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And just when we thought we got close to it,
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sometimes it wasn't there.
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Then all of a sudden,
we came into a clearing,
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and there it was.
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What appeared to be like a bright light,
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and the whole woods lit up at that point.
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We hit the ground.
We didn't know.
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We thought it was gonna
be an explosion or something.
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At that point in time, it was no longer
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an aircraft crash.
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It was an unknown situation,
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possible security hostile threat.
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But their abnormal
night was about to get stranger.
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As I got back up, the light diipssated,
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and what appeared then
was a triangular craft.
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Jim claims he made
notes on the bizarre experience.
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I wrote down as many things as I could.
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I wrote down the size.
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It was a black craft,
shiny like glass, smooth.
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Then it started to power up with the lighting,
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and it lifted off the ground.
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And whatever it was dimmed,
started to go up into the trees
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and went out, out towards the coastline.
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Once we realized we lost
complete contact wh itit,
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we called it in, and we were told to return.
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The truth of Jim and John's strange encounter
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has been hotly debated ever since.
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Nick pope manned the ministry of defense ufo desk
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in the 1990s.
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He feels the professional backgrounds
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of the witnesses make the case
difficult to dismiss.
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With many ufo sightings, you can say, "well,
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maybe it's a misidentification
or something quite ordinary."
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But when highly trained
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air force security police personnel say,
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"we encountered a landed ufo,"
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either they're lying or hallucinating,
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or what they say happened did happen.
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But others are less convinced.
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Inconsistencies exist
between the witnesses' accounts.
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Jim is the only one claiming
htoave seen a landed craft.
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Investigative journalist davela crke
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believes there could be
a more rational explanation.
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When you try and reduce it to its basics,
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this is a group of American airmen
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late at night, over the Christmas holidays,
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reported seeing mysterious lights
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in a forest.
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Clearly, these airmen saw something
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that was extraordinary
that they couldn't explain.
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But a lot of ufo incidents,
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when they're investigated thoroughly,
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turn out to be quite ordinary objects
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seen in extraordinary circumstances.
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Later that morning, bentwaters security
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callpos lice.
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The request is reported in the police logs.
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An officer heads to the site
where the ufo reportedly landed.
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He finds only faint marks on the ground.
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With little evidence of a crime scene,
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the police take no action.
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In 1980, two U.S. airmen spot
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what looks like a ufo
in england's rendlesham forest.
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At around 10 to 3:00
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on the morning they entered the forest,
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reports were made across southeast england
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of a dazzling light in the sky.
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Nigel henbest believes events in the cosmos
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could provide the explanation.
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The first light that appeared in the sky
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over rendlesham was undoubtedly a meteor.
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A lot of amateur astronomers
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from the British astronomical association
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who are guys who go out looking at the sky
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every night saw a bright shooting star
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crossing england at exactly that time.
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When you see a shooting star crossing the sky,
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it always looks closer than it actually is.
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And people often report a shooting star,
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a very bright one, we call it a fireball
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if it's brighter than any of the stars.
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They often report what is really brilliant meteors
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as being a crashing aircraft.
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Not just in the case of rendlesham,
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but many other times, as well.
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Had these trained airmen
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mistaken the fireball meteor
for a falling aircraft,
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or had something actually
come down in the forest?
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It could, of course,
be that something was jettisoned
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at altitude which came down in the forest.
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But we he avno wreckage to show.
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In terms of hard evidence,
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what we need is wreckage,
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and wreckage that we can take away
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and analyze somewhere.
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For some, there are problems.
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The lack of hard evidence
and the years that have passed
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since the witnesses made
their original statements.
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I just think the story now,
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it's been going for so long,
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every time those airmen tell the story,
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they're embellishing it a little bit more.
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They're on the lecture circuit.
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They're featured in books and articles.
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They've become part of the ufo industry.
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30 years later, rendlesham
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continues to fascinate ufo enthusiasts.
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Their curiosity prompted former
defense ministry official
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Nick pope to reinvestigate the case.
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When I was investigating ufos
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for the ministry of defense in the early '90s,
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I was still getting questions
about rendlesham forest.
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It was the single case
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on which the media and the public
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were most likely to contact me.
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So, I decided, on that basis,
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that, firstly, I should pull the files
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out of archives and see what we knew.
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And secondly, once I'd done that,
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do what the police
would call a cold case review.
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What I was going to do
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was retrospectively investigate the case
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and see if we'd missed anything.
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Pope's interest in the case endures to this day.
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Decades after the original event,
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his research has persuaded
a previously unknown witness
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to come forward.
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Nigel kerr was in front
of a radar screen that night.
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This is the first time
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he has given a television interview
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about what he saw.
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Because it was the Christmas period,
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the new year period,
it was very, very quiet.
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And round about midnight,
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we received a call from
the bentwaters command post.
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They'd seen bright lights,
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roughly at an altitude
of between 500 and 1,000 feet,
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they thought.
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And they wanted to know
if we could see anything
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on radar which might correlate with that.
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Kerr was responsible
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for controlling military aircraft movements
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across the region.
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Yet, his standard radar
was picking up nothing unusual.
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However, he could also access
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britain's most powerful radar equipment --
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the nation's air defense radar network
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at royal air force base neatishead.
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We switched to neatishead radar.
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Sure enough, we got radar
contact from a neatishead radar.
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We let it go for a couple of sweeps.
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It was still there.
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On the third sweep, it disappeared.
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On the fourth sweep, it returned,
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and then, after that,
we didn't see it again.
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The ministry of defense
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recorded no abnormal activity
over that Christmas period.
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This more recent account
does suggest an unknown object
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flew over southeast england that night.
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But could the radar be wrong?
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The radar is not infallible.
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There are items such as weather balloons.
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Weather llbaoons can be seen
on radar quite easily.
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Also, you can have a flock of birds.
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A flock of birds would appear on radar,
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perhaps one or two sweeps,
but then would disappear again.
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But in this particular case,
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we had a good, solid return at the location
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that bentwaters inquired about.
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It wasn't until about maybe a year later
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when it was reportedly tionally in the press,
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and it suddenly occurred to me, at that stage,
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this is maybe what bentwaters
were actually talking
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about that night.
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Kerr's radar report adds weight
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to the U.S. airmen's trexaordinary account.
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But the ndrelesham incident was far from over.
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Just two nights later,
the mysterious lights were back.
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December 26, 1980.
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U.S. airmen encounter myerstious lights
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and what one describes as a landed craft
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in rendlesham forest, england.
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Rumors of the ufo sighting
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spread through a high-security U.S. air base.
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The authorities are skeptical,
but two nights later,
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the mysterious lights appear once again.
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And the eyewitness this time
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is a high-ranking lieutenant colonel.
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Colonel halt went out into the forest
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to debunk this ufo nonsense
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and actually ended up
hangvi his own encounter.
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The incident burned such
an impact in my memory
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that I don't think I'll ever be able to forget it.
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There have been differing
accounts of what happened next.
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Documents suggest that halt
is confused about the date,
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but he is adamant he remembers the event
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with crystal clarity.
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We were having the
end-of-the-year Christmas party.
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We just finished the maicon urse
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when the on-duty police lieutenant came in
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and insisted on seeing myself
and the base commander
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and talking to us privately.
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He was white as a sheet,
and he said, "it's back."
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And we both looked at each other
and said, "what's back?"
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He said, "the ufo."
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Halt heads to the exact spot
where, just 48 hours earlier,
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a ufo was supposedly sighted.
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I'd taken my small
microcassette recorder along
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that I normally carried with me around the base
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and recorded certain instances of what happened,
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so I did have it documented pretty well.
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The tape recording that halt
made that night still survives.
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Ufo investigator Gary heseltine
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has come to rendlesham forest
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to explore halt's account of the night.
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When the object had landed,
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it had actually punched its way
through the canopy of trees.
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And it had comdoe wn, it had broken off
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several branches.
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They also found a blast area
in the middle of the triane,gl
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which may account for the fact that,
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when the object took off,
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there may be some kind of propulsion used.
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As the team explores the area,
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a bright light appears moving through the trees.
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We stood there in awe for several minutes
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and watched it.
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A igbrht red light was moving through the trees.
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It appeared like an eye, like it was blinking.
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We decided to approach it, and it receded.
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It mov aedway from us.
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Following the strange lights,
they emerge into an open field.
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The unidentified phenomenon is in clear sight.
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It's yellow.
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Suddenly, two more lights appear in the sky.
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We just stood there in awe.
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Thoughts were running through my mind,
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is this some type of hostile activity?
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Is iant attempt to communicate?
Is it a warning?
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And just as suddenly as it appeared,
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it disappeared just like a light switch, click,
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it was gone.
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Halt wrote an official report of the night
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to his base commander,
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handing over his tape recorder as evidence.
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Colonel halt's original memo
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to the ministry of defense
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was the formal notification
to the British government
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that this incident had taken place.
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Colonel halt is probably one
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of the most senior military officers
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to have seen and made an official report
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of a ufo whilst on duty.
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Halt's status as deputy commander
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of the base and his conversion from skeptic
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to believer seem to make a compelling case.
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But not everyone there that night agrees.
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Halt's commanding officer
was outside the base that night
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but did not see any unusual lights
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in the sky.
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Others feel there may be a more
earthly source for the light --
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a nearby lighthouse.
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Halt made a running tape recording
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of what he could see at the time.
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If you play that tape and watch the lighthouse,
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the description where they'd seen light,
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there it is again, out of the coast.
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It fit perfectly with the flashing beam
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of the orfordness lighthouse.
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Orford ness lies five miles southeast
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of rendlesham forest,
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but halt is adamant this is not what he saw.
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I hear that "you guys
were looking at the lighthouse"
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one more time, I'm gonna scream.
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We saw the object over there.
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The lighthouse was over there.
We could see the lighthouse.
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He's describing objects to t nheorth,
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multiple objects to the north,
objects to the south.
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So, clearly, we're describing something
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that is moving in the sky.
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The orfordness lighthouse
is way off in th datistance.
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I defy anybody to try to tell me
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that a flying lighthouse exists.
349
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Halt's report also describes other ufos
350
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he saw in the sky at the same time.
351
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Where did these multiple lights originate?
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00:20:06,904 --> 00:20:10,005
Nigel henbest has an intriguing suggestion.
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As an astronomer, I'd say the lights
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that seemed to hover and twinkle
like stars actually were stars.
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The brilliant star,
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00:20:21,219 --> 00:20:23,285
Sirius, the brightest star in the sky,
357
00:20:23,287 --> 00:20:26,389
was visible that night
and in exactly the direction
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that the brightest of these lights
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00:20:28,226 --> 00:20:29,925
was reported as being.
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They were described as twinkling
in different colors.
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That's how Sirius looks.
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00:20:34,332 --> 00:20:37,299
Henbest believes Sirius may also account
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00:20:37,301 --> 00:20:40,803
for the movement of the ufo
described in halt's report.
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00:20:40,805 --> 00:20:42,371
The report also said
365
00:20:42,373 --> 00:20:44,607
that this bright light gradually sank down,
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00:20:44,609 --> 00:20:47,076
and checking where Sirius was in the sky
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00:20:47,078 --> 00:20:48,444
at the time of night,
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that's exactly what Sirius would have done.
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So, this is actually,
to my mind as an astronomer,
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a very accurate report of the star Sirius.
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00:20:57,155 --> 00:20:59,889
Around 20% of ufo sightings
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00:20:59,891 --> 00:21:02,958
are attributed to astronomical events.
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00:21:07,331 --> 00:21:08,964
Still, the stars
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00:21:08,966 --> 00:21:13,269
can't explain all the events
described in halt's memo.
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00:21:13,271 --> 00:21:17,706
And to this day, the case remains controversial.
376
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:27,646
Venice, August 17, 1936.
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An extradiornary sighting
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00:21:30,751 --> 00:21:33,185
of three unidentified flying objects
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sends the Italian air force
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into a state of panic.
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00:21:42,796 --> 00:21:43,895
60 years later,
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mysterious documents now reveal the event,
383
00:21:47,668 --> 00:21:49,968
and the government cover-up that followed.
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It was a personal order by Mussolini
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00:21:54,975 --> 00:21:56,675
not to speak about this.
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00:21:56,677 --> 00:21:59,478
A secret u rfoesearch group was founded,
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00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,613
headed by the Italian dictator.
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00:22:01,615 --> 00:22:03,382
If this is genuine,
389
00:22:03,384 --> 00:22:07,319
one can see why Mussolini would be interested.
390
00:22:15,663 --> 00:22:18,497
Roberto pinotti is a top Italian ufologist
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and director of Italy's largest
ufo research center.
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00:22:25,639 --> 00:22:29,374
He spent almost half
a century studying ufo reports.
393
00:22:39,853 --> 00:22:43,455
The documents within purported
to be a secret government report
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00:22:43,457 --> 00:22:45,991
of the ufo sighting.
395
00:22:45,993 --> 00:22:47,959
These documents were very intriguing
396
00:22:47,961 --> 00:22:51,663
because they are related to a definite report
397
00:22:51,665 --> 00:22:58,770
dated the 22 of August of 1936.
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About a sighting over mestre and venice.
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The report contained detailed descriptions
400
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,247
and sketches of the ufo.
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00:23:09,249 --> 00:23:10,515
Pinotti and his colleague,
402
00:23:10,517 --> 00:23:13,985
Alfredo lissoni, believe the report is genuine.
403
00:23:31,972 --> 00:23:35,674
The huge craft hovered
over the venetian skyline.
404
00:23:35,676 --> 00:23:39,144
The files record the witnesses'
detailed observations.
405
00:23:39,146 --> 00:23:42,247
It had different portholes.
406
00:23:42,249 --> 00:23:46,251
In fact, we see at least four portholes
407
00:23:46,253 --> 00:23:49,454
along the face.
408
00:23:49,456 --> 00:23:54,726
And the object leaves a sort
of smoke behind him.
409
00:23:56,930 --> 00:24:00,365
Suddenly, the ufo opens up at one end,
410
00:24:00,367 --> 00:24:03,435
releasing two smaller objects from within.
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The report describes the two objects
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00:24:09,943 --> 00:24:12,077
near the cigar-shaped object,
413
00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:16,681
but like metallic, circular-shaped objects.
414
00:24:19,219 --> 00:24:22,020
With three unknown craft now in the sky,
415
00:24:22,022 --> 00:24:24,723
the Italian military rapidly responds.
416
00:24:25,893 --> 00:24:28,059
The Italian air force was alerted.
417
00:24:28,061 --> 00:24:31,496
In fact, two fighters
418
00:24:31,498 --> 00:24:33,665
were scrambled in order
419
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to intercept this unknown object.
420
00:24:50,184 --> 00:24:52,851
What could the objects have been?
421
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Eptics suggest a misidentified airship.
422
00:24:56,590 --> 00:25:00,725
In 1936, zeppelins are the most
common form of air transport
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across the Atlantic.
424
00:25:03,797 --> 00:25:06,131
Airships, like the zeppelin,
425
00:25:06,133 --> 00:25:09,167
have a cigar-like shape and fuel engines
426
00:25:09,169 --> 00:25:12,304
that would explain the object's trail of smoke.
427
00:25:12,306 --> 00:25:15,607
But lissoni is not convinced.
428
00:25:30,724 --> 00:25:32,924
According to these documents,
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00:25:32,926 --> 00:25:34,326
whatever was in the sky
430
00:25:34,328 --> 00:25:40,332
that day had a lasting effect
on the fascist dictator.
431
00:25:40,334 --> 00:25:43,835
He tries to silence all key witnesses.
432
00:26:13,003 --> 00:26:15,370
Italy, 1936.
433
00:26:15,372 --> 00:26:17,272
Why has the country's dictator
434
00:26:17,274 --> 00:26:20,542
ordered the vecor-up of a ufo sighting?
435
00:26:20,544 --> 00:26:23,045
Former ministry of defense official Nick pope
436
00:26:23,047 --> 00:26:27,015
believes the political timing
of the sighting may hold a clue.
437
00:26:27,017 --> 00:26:32,621
I think it's important to look
at these Mussolini ufo files
438
00:26:32,623 --> 00:26:36,858
with a sort of contemporary context in mind.
439
00:26:36,860 --> 00:26:38,727
It's a very different era.
440
00:26:38,729 --> 00:26:41,697
This is the run-up to the second world war.
441
00:26:41,699 --> 00:26:43,165
During the war, of course,
442
00:26:43,167 --> 00:26:47,302
the feelings of dread and panic and paranoia.
443
00:26:47,304 --> 00:26:50,038
One has to ask, does any of this play
444
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,509
a role in these ufo sightings, and indeed,
445
00:26:54,511 --> 00:26:56,612
in the ufo phenomenon more generally?
446
00:26:56,614 --> 00:26:58,280
Mussolini thought
447
00:26:58,282 --> 00:27:03,352
that the so-called
unconventional flying vehicles,
448
00:27:03,354 --> 00:27:06,455
because this is the correct term
449
00:27:06,457 --> 00:27:10,292
the fascists used, were just a new kind
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00:27:10,294 --> 00:27:12,961
of weapon of another European country --
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00:27:12,963 --> 00:27:15,264
england, France, or Germany.
452
00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:16,665
And as far as we know,
453
00:27:16,667 --> 00:27:21,169
he suspected these objects
were built by the Germans.
454
00:27:21,171 --> 00:27:22,604
Suspicion that Germany
455
00:27:22,606 --> 00:27:26,775
was developing revolutionary
new technology was widespread.
456
00:27:26,777 --> 00:27:29,544
Mussolini sets up a top-secret research group
457
00:27:29,546 --> 00:27:31,680
to study these unconventional aircraft.
458
00:27:31,682 --> 00:27:36,952
This group was cabinet rs/33.
459
00:27:36,954 --> 00:27:41,456
"Rs" are the initials, the capital letter of
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00:27:41,458 --> 00:27:44,793
ricercatore speciale, special researchers.
461
00:27:44,795 --> 00:27:47,663
Italy's leading scientists, engineers,
462
00:27:47,665 --> 00:27:49,931
and astronomers are assembled to design
463
00:27:49,933 --> 00:27:51,533
new flying technologies
464
00:27:51,535 --> 00:27:55,971
based on witness descriptions
of the venetian ufo.
465
00:27:55,973 --> 00:27:58,473
Mussolini had ordered them
466
00:27:58,475 --> 00:28:02,477
to try to copy these new objects.
467
00:28:02,479 --> 00:28:06,915
Normally airplanes are elongated
468
00:28:06,917 --> 00:28:09,985
with the wings, flaps, and so on.
469
00:28:09,987 --> 00:28:12,621
The technology they tried to develop,
470
00:28:12,623 --> 00:28:17,959
on the contrary, was about rotating wings.
471
00:28:17,961 --> 00:28:22,831
In other words, they tried
to develop round planes,
472
00:28:22,833 --> 00:28:25,701
round objects.
473
00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:27,436
If the case is genuine,
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00:28:27,438 --> 00:28:29,604
the Italian government's involvement
475
00:28:29,606 --> 00:28:31,773
gives it a unique place in history
476
00:28:31,775 --> 00:28:36,078
as the world's first-ever official ufo sighting.
477
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,779
Until now, ufology
478
00:28:37,781 --> 00:28:39,748
is generally accepted to have started
479
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:43,452
in the late 1940s with events like roswell.
480
00:28:43,454 --> 00:28:47,356
The Mussolini ufo files are very interesting
481
00:28:47,358 --> 00:28:50,625
because, if this turns out to be genuine,
482
00:28:50,627 --> 00:28:53,695
it effectively rewrites the whole history
483
00:28:53,697 --> 00:28:55,997
of the modern ufo phenomenon.
484
00:28:55,999 --> 00:29:01,870
The modern flying saucer
mystery really starts in 1947,
485
00:29:01,872 --> 00:29:05,374
so if Mussolini was taking
an interest in all this back
486
00:29:05,376 --> 00:29:07,709
in the '30s, really,
487
00:29:07,711 --> 00:29:12,914
we need to revisit the entire history of this.
488
00:29:12,916 --> 00:29:14,916
It's an trexaordinary story,
489
00:29:14,918 --> 00:29:16,952
but is it actually true?
490
00:29:20,991 --> 00:29:24,459
British author and ufo
investigator Mark pilkington
491
00:29:24,461 --> 00:29:27,295
has come to venice to explore the evidence.
492
00:29:34,805 --> 00:29:38,540
Behind me over here is mestre to the north.
493
00:29:38,542 --> 00:29:41,676
And this is where, according
to pinotti's documents,
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00:29:41,678 --> 00:29:44,413
the ufo sighting took place.
495
00:29:44,415 --> 00:29:48,216
And at that time, mestre
was a quiet, residential town.
496
00:29:51,088 --> 00:29:53,922
Pilkington has been studying the documents
497
00:29:53,924 --> 00:29:58,460
that supposedly record
what happened here in 1936.
498
00:29:58,462 --> 00:30:00,195
So, I brought copies
499
00:30:00,197 --> 00:30:03,131
of the original pinotti
documents here to venice
500
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to try to get a feel for the case,
501
00:30:05,636 --> 00:30:08,136
for the account that's described within them.
502
00:30:08,138 --> 00:30:10,272
But the problem for me is,
503
00:30:10,274 --> 00:30:13,842
I just can't get
past the documents themselves.
504
00:30:13,844 --> 00:30:17,112
I'm just not convinced that they're authentic.
505
00:30:17,114 --> 00:30:19,381
Even the most careful ufo researcher
506
00:30:19,383 --> 00:30:23,718
can fall victim to a cleverly perpetrated hoax.
507
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,254
But pinotti and lissoni
508
00:30:26,256 --> 00:30:28,290
have already considered this.
509
00:30:39,236 --> 00:30:42,437
And so, we had forensic analysis.
510
00:30:42,439 --> 00:30:46,208
This means that we had the paper analyzed,
511
00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:47,609
the ink analyzed,
512
00:30:47,611 --> 00:30:49,845
and in fact, the forensic analysis
513
00:30:49,847 --> 00:30:54,483
proved that everything was real.
514
00:30:54,485 --> 00:30:56,351
But for pilkington,
515
00:30:56,353 --> 00:30:58,854
there are still unanswered questions.
516
00:31:01,892 --> 00:31:04,459
The thing that makes me most
suspicious about the documents
517
00:31:04,461 --> 00:31:07,562
is the timing and the manner of their arrival.
518
00:31:07,564 --> 00:31:11,132
They were handed anonymously
to pinotti, so he has no means
519
00:31:11,134 --> 00:31:14,803
by which to check out their source.
520
00:31:14,805 --> 00:31:16,838
And perhaps most revealingly,
521
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,977
the timing of their arrival
in 1996 is the point at which,
522
00:31:21,979 --> 00:31:25,814
globally, there was
more interest in the ufo subject
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00:31:25,816 --> 00:31:29,150
than there had been for perhaps 20 years.
524
00:31:29,152 --> 00:31:32,621
So this is the time of "the x-files,"
525
00:31:32,623 --> 00:31:35,290
the alleged autopsy of the aliens
526
00:31:35,292 --> 00:31:36,725
from the roswell crash.
527
00:31:36,727 --> 00:31:38,159
So somebody
528
00:31:38,161 --> 00:31:41,062
could see that people all around the world
529
00:31:41,064 --> 00:31:44,099
were fascinated by the ufo subject,
530
00:31:44,101 --> 00:31:47,135
and indeed, other people were making a great deal
531
00:31:47,137 --> 00:31:48,904
of money from it.
532
00:31:52,042 --> 00:31:53,642
No reference to the sighting
533
00:31:53,644 --> 00:31:55,544
or a secret ufo research group
534
00:31:55,546 --> 00:32:01,316
has been found in any Italian
or international archive.
535
00:32:01,318 --> 00:32:03,485
The entire case rests on the validity
536
00:32:03,487 --> 00:32:07,522
of pinotti's anonymous files.
537
00:32:07,524 --> 00:32:10,825
Pinotti himself is absolutely convinced
538
00:32:10,827 --> 00:32:12,494
of their authenticity
539
00:32:12,496 --> 00:32:17,666
and claims to have shown them
to a materials archivist
540
00:32:17,668 --> 00:32:23,405
who has verified them as being
of the correct time period.
541
00:32:23,407 --> 00:32:26,908
However, there are others
within the Italian ufo community
542
00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:30,512
who are not so convinced.
543
00:32:30,514 --> 00:32:33,315
Adding to pilkington's suspicions,
544
00:32:33,317 --> 00:32:36,251
pinotti is reluctant to allow
any further analysis
545
00:32:36,253 --> 00:32:39,421
of the documents.
546
00:32:39,423 --> 00:32:41,489
Documents which have the potential
547
00:32:41,491 --> 00:32:45,427
to rewrite history should be studied by a number
548
00:32:45,429 --> 00:32:48,263
of independent analysts, not just by one person.
549
00:32:48,265 --> 00:32:51,967
There is huge controversy about this.
550
00:32:51,969 --> 00:32:53,668
If this is a hoax,
551
00:32:53,670 --> 00:32:58,907
it is clearly a clever
and very well-constructed hoax.
552
00:32:58,909 --> 00:33:02,444
My own view on this, I'm undecided.
553
00:33:04,414 --> 00:33:07,015
The whole package, the idea
554
00:33:07,017 --> 00:33:12,520
of a clandestine Mussolini era
Italian ufo research group
555
00:33:12,522 --> 00:33:16,224
is wonderful exciting, evocative, and romantic,
556
00:33:16,226 --> 00:33:19,894
and would make for a great science fictn iofilm.
557
00:33:19,896 --> 00:33:22,297
Certainly one that I'd like to see.
558
00:33:22,299 --> 00:33:23,832
However, in truth,
559
00:33:23,834 --> 00:33:25,834
there's very little here to suggest
560
00:33:25,836 --> 00:33:29,204
that these are anything other
than well-crafted forgeries.
561
00:33:40,124 --> 00:33:45,327
Central Sweden, 15th of September, 1952.
562
00:33:45,329 --> 00:33:48,130
At 11:30 P.M., a young office clerk
563
00:33:48,132 --> 00:33:50,732
and his mother witnessed two ufos
564
00:33:50,734 --> 00:33:55,137
hovering in the skies above their home.
565
00:33:55,139 --> 00:33:57,306
The sighting triggers a full investigation
566
00:33:57,308 --> 00:33:59,808
by the Swedish defense ministry
567
00:33:59,810 --> 00:34:02,411
and became one of the most famous ufo cases
568
00:34:02,413 --> 00:34:04,112
in the country's history.
569
00:34:12,823 --> 00:34:16,758
Clas svahn is a journalist
and vice chairman of afu,
570
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,362
one of the world's largest ufo archives.
571
00:34:20,364 --> 00:34:25,167
He has spent many years
analyzing the government files.
572
00:34:25,169 --> 00:34:28,603
This picture taken by nils frost outside mora
573
00:34:28,605 --> 00:34:31,139
in the south central swende
574
00:34:31,141 --> 00:34:37,746
is probably the most scrutinized
Swedish ufo picture ever
575
00:34:37,748 --> 00:34:39,581
and very interesting
576
00:34:39,583 --> 00:34:42,317
about it is the military
couldn't identify it.
577
00:34:49,827 --> 00:34:51,593
20-year-old nils frost
578
00:34:51,595 --> 00:34:55,130
is returning home after
visiting his girlfriend nearby.
579
00:34:58,002 --> 00:35:00,268
And when he camhoe me,
580
00:35:00,270 --> 00:35:02,971
he was just going to go into his house
581
00:35:02,973 --> 00:35:04,840
where his mother was sleeping.
582
00:35:04,842 --> 00:35:06,475
But then he took look around
583
00:35:06,477 --> 00:35:09,778
and saw that there was some strange light
584
00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:12,748
in the north, northwest horizon somewhere.
585
00:35:12,750 --> 00:35:16,118
And he really didn't understand what he saw.
586
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,453
Stunned by the two mysterious objects,
587
00:35:18,455 --> 00:35:21,289
frost rushes inside to wake his parents,
588
00:35:21,291 --> 00:35:23,992
dragging his mother out to see it.
589
00:35:23,994 --> 00:35:25,927
Quick!
590
00:35:25,929 --> 00:35:27,195
Look, it's there!
591
00:35:27,197 --> 00:35:28,764
So they were standing there together,
592
00:35:28,766 --> 00:35:30,232
looking at this very strange light
593
00:35:30,234 --> 00:35:33,568
moving a little slowly in theea hvens.
594
00:35:33,570 --> 00:35:35,470
And they also saw another light coming up
595
00:35:35,472 --> 00:35:37,606
behind this first big light.
596
00:35:37,608 --> 00:35:42,477
And he thought it was
around 15 centimeters wide.
597
00:35:42,479 --> 00:35:44,980
That's a very big angle inhe t heavens
598
00:35:44,982 --> 00:35:46,915
if he really means 15 centimeters,
599
00:35:46,917 --> 00:35:49,918
an arm length distance.
600
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,021
It's illuminating the clouds in a way
601
00:35:53,023 --> 00:35:56,958
so you can see it's
a very strong source of light.
602
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,360
This strange incident
603
00:35:58,362 --> 00:36:01,396
might never have been taken
seriously by the government,
604
00:36:01,398 --> 00:36:04,599
but nils frost had his camera
with him that night.
605
00:36:08,205 --> 00:36:10,305
He took two pictures
606
00:36:10,307 --> 00:36:14,543
of this very strange light.
607
00:36:14,545 --> 00:36:19,481
You can see also another light
coming up there underneath.
608
00:36:19,483 --> 00:36:21,249
And on the picture,
609
00:36:21,251 --> 00:36:25,754
you can see the line of trees here.
610
00:36:25,756 --> 00:36:29,291
And the object is just above the trees.
611
00:36:29,293 --> 00:36:31,293
These mysterious images
612
00:36:31,295 --> 00:36:35,864
have baffled researchers for decades.
613
00:36:35,866 --> 00:36:37,699
Dr. Eva bernhardsdotter
614
00:36:37,701 --> 00:36:41,670
is a researcher at the Swedish defense agency.
615
00:36:41,672 --> 00:36:46,408
She knows how seriously the case
was taken by the military.
616
00:36:46,410 --> 00:36:49,945
The Swedish armed forces
contacted a number of people
617
00:36:49,947 --> 00:36:54,282
in order to investigate
the source of this phenomenon.
618
00:36:54,284 --> 00:36:58,653
A very prominent scienti
sthad looked at these pictures,
619
00:36:58,655 --> 00:37:04,326
and they said it's impossible
to identify the light source.
620
00:37:04,328 --> 00:37:05,594
The larger object
621
00:37:05,596 --> 00:37:08,597
that was being observed had to be very intense.
622
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:10,232
Much stronger than the light
623
00:37:10,234 --> 00:37:12,834
that you would expect
from the moon, for example.
624
00:37:12,836 --> 00:37:14,636
It gave light so intense
625
00:37:14,638 --> 00:37:17,873
that it probably ruined the film.
626
00:37:17,875 --> 00:37:21,610
They saw that the negative was so overexposed
627
00:37:21,612 --> 00:37:23,111
in the middle of the picture,
628
00:37:23,113 --> 00:37:26,581
it nearly burnt the negative.
629
00:37:28,819 --> 00:37:31,453
But photography expert
Paul Ellis is not convinced
630
00:37:31,455 --> 00:37:35,457
that the ufo's light source
damaged the negative.
631
00:37:35,459 --> 00:37:38,994
I think it's really unlikely
that a light would be so bright
632
00:37:38,996 --> 00:37:42,898
that it could actually damage a roll of film.
633
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:44,833
I've been to the arctic circle,
634
00:37:44,835 --> 00:37:47,636
and you do get to see some very
strange lights in the sky.
635
00:37:47,638 --> 00:37:49,237
Not just the northern lights,
636
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,741
but some other very unusual lights.
637
00:37:52,743 --> 00:37:56,745
So, what was this powerful glowing light?
638
00:37:56,747 --> 00:38:00,482
One theory investigated by
the military at the time
639
00:38:00,484 --> 00:38:05,287
was the elusive phenomen
known as ball lightning.
640
00:38:05,289 --> 00:38:08,290
Ball lightning is a very mysterious phenomena.
641
00:38:08,292 --> 00:38:11,092
Many people have reported it over the ctuenries,
642
00:38:11,094 --> 00:38:12,661
many scientists.
643
00:38:12,663 --> 00:38:15,964
And it's described
as a ball of glowing light.
644
00:38:15,966 --> 00:38:18,967
Red, yellow, perhaps blue or white in color,
645
00:38:18,969 --> 00:38:21,703
an electrical glowing ball of light.
646
00:38:21,705 --> 00:38:23,672
It's anywhere from just a few centimeters
647
00:38:23,674 --> 00:38:26,274
in diameter to perhaps a meter.
648
00:38:26,276 --> 00:38:28,176
Is this what nils frost saw?
649
00:38:29,446 --> 00:38:31,813
The Swedish defense ministry approached physicist
650
00:38:31,815 --> 00:38:35,550
and nobel laureate hannes alfvén
for an expert opinion.
651
00:38:35,552 --> 00:38:38,486
Of course, alfvén told the military
652
00:38:38,488 --> 00:38:40,989
that it was no kind of ball lightning
653
00:38:40,991 --> 00:38:44,459
which was his expertise.
654
00:38:44,461 --> 00:38:46,194
So they ruled out ball lightning which,
655
00:38:46,196 --> 00:38:47,762
of course, I don't think it was either
656
00:38:47,764 --> 00:38:49,898
because they were too long up the sky,
657
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:53,501
and they didn't really look
like ball lightning.
658
00:38:55,439 --> 00:38:57,072
Professor alfvén concluded,
659
00:38:57,074 --> 00:38:59,507
"the light phenomena
does not resemble anything
660
00:38:59,509 --> 00:39:02,510
that we have seen or experienced before."
661
00:39:04,681 --> 00:39:09,684
Then, the investigation
turns to the witness himse.Lf
662
00:39:09,686 --> 00:39:13,855
could this have been an elaborate hoax?
663
00:39:13,857 --> 00:39:17,058
Clas svahn interviewed nils frost in the 1980s
664
00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:19,160
before he died.
665
00:39:19,162 --> 00:39:22,364
When I did my interview
with nils frost in 1987,
666
00:39:22,366 --> 00:39:26,067
he came across as a very nice
and very -- a little shy man
667
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:29,337
that didn't want to have
his name in the papers.
668
00:39:29,339 --> 00:39:32,274
I never thought that nils frost
was trying to hoax anyone
669
00:39:32,276 --> 00:39:33,575
because bringing out
670
00:39:33,577 --> 00:39:36,211
his mother made hoaxing
very difficult, of course.
671
00:39:36,213 --> 00:39:40,048
So what did frost photograph
on that cold September night?
672
00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:42,684
What --
how is that possible?
673
00:39:42,686 --> 00:39:45,053
One final theory suggests objects
674
00:39:45,055 --> 00:39:47,656
that are not from this world.
675
00:39:47,658 --> 00:39:49,357
The average person really
676
00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:51,626
isn't used to seeing planets in the sky.
677
00:39:51,628 --> 00:39:53,595
Now, if you're not
an astronomer yourself,
678
00:39:53,597 --> 00:39:56,631
and maybe you're in a lonely
place on a mountain
679
00:39:56,633 --> 00:39:58,466
or out in the woods or forest
680
00:39:58,468 --> 00:40:00,869
or on a lake, way away from anywhere,
681
00:40:00,871 --> 00:40:02,504
and you see a brilliant light in the sky
682
00:40:02,506 --> 00:40:04,406
that you're not expecting,
683
00:40:04,408 --> 00:40:06,875
because we're not used to seeing planets,
684
00:40:06,877 --> 00:40:09,577
then I think you could be awed by it.
685
00:40:09,579 --> 00:40:13,014
I think you'd also be rather frightened.
686
00:40:13,016 --> 00:40:15,383
Following the sighting, people investigated
687
00:40:15,385 --> 00:40:18,086
whether frost had observed
an alignment of the moon
688
00:40:18,088 --> 00:40:19,821
and the planet Jupiter.
689
00:40:22,693 --> 00:40:25,260
There's a good reason
why people in northern countries
690
00:40:25,262 --> 00:40:29,164
like Sweden or Norway
might mistake planets for ufos
691
00:40:29,166 --> 00:40:31,466
more often than in southern countries.
692
00:40:31,468 --> 00:40:35,403
The planets appear to go around
a band in the sky.
693
00:40:35,405 --> 00:40:37,806
The further north you are, the lower down
694
00:40:37,808 --> 00:40:39,441
in the sky that band is.
695
00:40:39,443 --> 00:40:42,377
So the planets will seem to hug the horizon.
696
00:40:42,379 --> 00:40:43,845
And that's when people notice them.
697
00:40:43,847 --> 00:40:45,413
Very few people look overhead
698
00:40:45,415 --> 00:40:47,115
and see what's directly above them.
699
00:40:47,117 --> 00:40:49,351
You do notice what's around the horizon,
700
00:40:49,353 --> 00:40:51,019
and it's things around the horizon --
701
00:40:51,021 --> 00:40:52,787
bright lights near the horizon --
702
00:40:52,789 --> 00:40:55,690
that you can mistake for a ufo.
703
00:40:55,692 --> 00:41:00,528
But in 1952, the experts are not convinced.
704
00:41:00,530 --> 00:41:03,264
The Stockholm observatory hacos ncluded
705
00:41:03,266 --> 00:41:08,269
that this cannot be the case
of any astronomical phenomenon.
706
00:41:08,271 --> 00:41:12,240
But is the observatory mistaken?
707
00:41:12,242 --> 00:41:14,976
Clas svahn digs a little deeper.
708
00:41:14,978 --> 00:41:16,811
I've tried to look a little broader
709
00:41:16,813 --> 00:41:20,148
and also looked before and after the date
710
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:22,384
that it was said to have been taken.
711
00:41:22,386 --> 00:41:24,119
It turned out that just a week before,
712
00:41:24,121 --> 00:41:26,621
you can see that the moon and planet Jupiter
713
00:41:26,623 --> 00:41:30,525
were exactly at this spot in the heavens.
714
00:41:32,429 --> 00:41:34,429
The new star map shows that eight days
715
00:41:34,431 --> 00:41:37,198
before the sighting, the moon and Jupiter
716
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,403
would have been low
and large in the night sky.
717
00:41:41,405 --> 00:41:44,272
If you compare the pictures
718
00:41:44,274 --> 00:41:47,308
that nils frost took with the star map
719
00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:50,879
from September 7, 1952,
720
00:41:50,881 --> 00:41:53,181
you could see that it is probably the moon
721
00:41:53,183 --> 00:41:54,516
and the Jupiter,
722
00:41:54,518 --> 00:41:56,785
the planet Jupiter,
that we are talking about.
723
00:41:56,787 --> 00:41:59,587
Sometimes the witnesses give the wrong date.
724
00:41:59,589 --> 00:42:01,656
Sometimes even the wrong time.
725
00:42:01,658 --> 00:42:03,658
So my suspicion here was
726
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:06,928
that the photographs were
actually taken a week earlier.
727
00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:10,231
But nils frost stuck to his story.
728
00:42:10,233 --> 00:42:12,600
The mystery of Sweden's most iconic
729
00:42:12,602 --> 00:42:16,371
ufo photograph endures to this day.
730
00:42:17,707 --> 00:42:20,675
If it was taken a week before,
731
00:42:20,677 --> 00:42:24,045
it is the moon and the planet Jupiter.
732
00:42:24,047 --> 00:42:29,050
If it was taken on September
15th, I have no idea.
733
00:42:29,052 --> 00:42:31,019
Then it is something completely different.
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