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the following dramatic presentation is a
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work of fiction it has been inspired by
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recent events in Newfoundland and
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elsewhere in Canada but it is not a
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reenactment of any actual events the
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characters scenes in dialogue in this
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drama are not intended to represent the
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actual personalities actions or words of
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any real people living or dead
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yes are you Peter Laden yes
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my name is detective Olin Royal
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Newfoundland Constabulary messed up in
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plates oh yeah yes sir I can help your
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mum let's follow I have a warrant for
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your arrest sir you need not say
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anything you have nothing to hold from
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any promise or favor nothing to fear
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from any threat you got the right to
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retain and instruct counsel without
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delay anything you say can be used as
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evidence I have orders to bring it back
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to st. John's excuse me this is
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ridiculous I have not been in st. Jones
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for ten years
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breather super ten of st. Vincent
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orphanage in 1975
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so if you ever get your cold place just
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hold on
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what is the charge gross indecency
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sexual assault physical assault I'm
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afraid you'll have to come with me sir
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maybe I want to pack some things Peter
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no would you please take the children
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into the kitchen sir I'm sorry I have to
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accompany you to Rome fine
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what is going on please Peter answer me
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don't know what is going on he's
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juggling that comes to Newfoundland they
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told me that I am under arrest and that
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I must accompany those so I am a packet
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you can't come in here and arrest my
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husband where are you taking him take
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him back to st. John's miss 11 why you
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don't know why will you pack help the
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kids or do something
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for how long
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turn to your right the other side
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take him away where's Paul Stephens
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office do you have an appointment sir
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sir you sent me this it's all right
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Janice Missy says subpoena says I'm
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supposed to show up in court like some
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goddamn criminal
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we can't force me to do this yes I can
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recognize this
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I've charged one Peter John Levin with
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various crimes based in Parratt on that
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statement which you made I intend to
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bring you into court and have you tell
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the judge that that is indeed your
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signature
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after what that bastard did to you you
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don't want to nail them I don't believe
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it sent me another piece of paper like
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this and I'll disappear you understand
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Peter John levy was arrested today and
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charges of sexual and physical assault
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the offences were allegedly committed
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against boys at the orphanage 15 years
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ago former brother Lavin was very
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visible and popular in the community
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during his tenure he is generally
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credited with being the dynamic force
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behind the expansion of the orphanage
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facilities including the building of the
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st. Vincent hockey arena home of the
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perennial city champs mr. Lavin lives in
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Montreal and is married with two
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children
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as I was telling you before brother live
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in a bigger party
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excuse me mr. Levin now let me explain
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the options of a plea of guilty or not
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guilty or bother not guilty
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how much pardon cost men cost I have a
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family remember your fees are being
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taken care of I thought you knew that
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now I'm afraid I must return to the
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question of it listen to me I'm innocent
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I exercise discipline I tried to shape
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young boys into responsible people now
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the quicker you understand that the
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better for both of us is that clear yes
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of course
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what do you think callers there we've
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got former superintendent Lavin brothers
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blacken and Glen all picked up in a
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sweep accused of unmentionable crimes
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against little youngsters helpless
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orphans entrusted to their care you've
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heard the news what do you think
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vo CP the voice of the common people is
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on the air give us a call fine - you're
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on the air my god Gladys good to hear
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from you I haven't heard from you in a
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long time you're a stranger where have
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you been keeping yourself
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well good for you
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now I want to tell you I've been in
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churchgoer and a good watch you well in
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God love before - Gladys now as I was
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saying I don't believe a word you're not
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buying any of it no why when I think of
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all the fine men in our community that
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have been saved by their brothers yeah
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yeah well I tell you Leonora just makes
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me furious
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there are so many people looking for any
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reason there bring down the mother
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church well I hope you're right God
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knows we hope you're right Gladys police
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officials have confirmed the existence
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of sign witness statements dating back
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to the mid 70s they were part of a
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criminal investigation of possible
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mistreatment of boys by All Saints
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brothers at st. Vincent
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Peter John Lavin the former
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superintendent we did not guilty on all
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seven counts of sexual and physical
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assault one of the deepening mysteries
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of the case is why no charges were laid
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at the time of the original
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investigation a preliminary inquiry of
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the next step of legal proceedings
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it's open
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you want to tell me about it
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hello Kevin are you doing best kind
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detective
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I heard about you not wanting to take
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the stand you heard right look I got
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nothing to say to you listen Kevin me
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you're not gonna get another chance you
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don't testify in lab and walks now well
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he can't ever be charged again think
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about it think about it
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what I'm thinking about
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I think how big man big detective do
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that to a kid
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you said you'd come back to see me I did
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Yeah right telling you I did we'd
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already gone to live with your uncle we
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haven't gone oh well that's what I was
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told I told you that one of the brothers
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you believed I was in there till I was
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16 for Christ's sake
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now mr. Noseworthy that is the signature
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of Kevin revie's it not yes sir it was
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signed in my presence as you can tell
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from the signature underneath would you
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read that statement please the passage
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marked out at the bottom he would make
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me sit on his lap sometimes he would
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take off my shirt and sometimes he would
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take off all my clothes and he would be
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kissing me and rubbing my private parts
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the man who did these things to me
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his brother lap no more questions my
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lord
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now these witness statements are 15
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years old is that correct that's right
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now in this case was an arrest ever made
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no but it should have but it didn't your
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lordship no charges were laid when this
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complaint was first made the criminal
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justice system in its wisdom presumably
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determined that there was not enough
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evidence and what kind of criminal
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justice system is it that tells a police
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officer the doctor evidence now what do
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you mean by doctor evidence the chief
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told me to rewrite my report taking out
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all references to sexual matters so that
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there could be no grounds for charges he
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said that the orders came from the
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Justice Department
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I said that a bunch of criminal
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politicians and high church officials
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conspired to kill the Prophet course of
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justice and why speak of it only now I
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was told I'd be fired charged on a
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police act if I said it you're saying
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there's not only evidence of criminal
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activity by the brothers but there was
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also a cover-up as well you say wait did
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you just watch they're going after the
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feathers don't get me wrong you should
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be about to trial for what they done
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what about the big shot son you just
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watch who is a possible colors is it
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possible that police and government
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officials maybe even government
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ministers knew about the dark deeds of
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the orphanage and covered them up well
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now there's a Royal Commission starting
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up public hearings about to take place
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will they get to the bottom of it
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what do you think collars the boys were
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in fact Ward's of the state
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placed in the care of the brothers at
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the orphanage by your department is that
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correct yes and what was your
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responsibility
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I was the social worker responsible for
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virtually all contact between the
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department and the orphanage and how
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often did you visit the boys never it
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was made clear to me that st. Vincent
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was not to be interfered with in any way
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who made this clear to you it came from
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the directors office I see
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I will go check it okay first time sir I
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know you hear in businesses yeah Peter
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that what a pleasure to I hope them come
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to the right place for that sir
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ah speaking of which get much in the way
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of snow here what I mean well there's
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one thing you can't answer whose you can
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fit nothing about the weather no no no
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no snow crystal no well then your last
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monster by the shovel I know what you
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mean
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indeed it did sir
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Oh Brian
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Jesus Christ good to see you man you
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hungry have anything you want
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waiter bring that champagne got some
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celebrating to do me Umbro here sit down
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for Christ's sake so how you been
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married and kids yeah I I gotta meet the
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wife I thought we should you know see
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each other first and you know so uh how
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you been
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you're hungry uh waiter brings me a menu
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someplace huh Jesus Christ I'm looking
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good so you're losing it what are you
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doing just spending millions yeah just
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trying to score some dope found any
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ganja yet waiter
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old times huh I think I nose hit really
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though what are you doing here
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hi the cops they made me an offer I
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couldn't refuse you know yeah free trip
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nice hotel see my old brother take a
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stand tell about Glackin
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how'd you try and find you you know I
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think you did any well he was that put
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some big goddamn place a few years of
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waiting for you
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it's gonna take yeah I know but I go on
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sometime right what do you think I'm
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gonna leave you in this goddamn place no
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way as soon as I get straight away
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you're gone you'll be all right just
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stay away from vessel forget it right
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what do you want waiter where's that
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menu no that's all right I will cigar
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have a cigar no I don't smoke Jesus to
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clean my house so we're you leave out in
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summers and I guess you'd call it that
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well you get you got pictures though I
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can get you oh let me see me so what do
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I got nephews nieces I don't know let me
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see the future mr. kids there that's
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great it's done in that one the record
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show that complaints of physical and
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sexual abuse at the orphanage were sent
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to your office can you confirm this well
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yes did you act upon these complaints
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yes as a matter of fact it did can you
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tell the Commission what action was
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taken by your department I believe I
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asked brother Lavin to investigate and
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to report back to me now hold it
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you were the legal guardian of these
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boys is that correct well yes and you're
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telling this commission that as their
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guardian with a sworn duty to look after
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their welfare you asked one of the
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alleged abusers to investigate a crime
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he may have himself committed well it
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might look like that in retrospect but
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at the time it seemed the appropriate
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thing to do
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how is your family taking all of this
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they bearing up find out when I get
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there why I would like to put your wife
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on the stand as a character witness
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absolutely not I will not have my family
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dragged into this I can tell you that it
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is in your best interest to have people
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testify as to strength of your character
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psychological stability he said you know
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didn't
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well then can I put you in touch with
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the psychiatrist's what for to be able
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to bring in an expert witness who can
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say that you have undergone testing to
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speak to the court about your
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psychological makeup you want someone to
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tell the judge the child molesters are
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type a that I'm Type B something like
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that something like that
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I want to probe my innermost thoughts
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right
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fine excellent I'll arrange for sessions
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to begin on your home
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what I did back there Carter smells like
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me about the ether this is good how are
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you see you again
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how about some chips okay there's stuff
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in the suitcase for both of you both
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have your names on it so don't argue
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okay
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baby isn't it
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Tiffany you're Kevin grevioux right then
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Martin Batson story you remember
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have four beer please they brought me
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back to go over my statements we're
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gonna nail that clack I saw a few of the
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bars that we talked about you so yes
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it's much looking down Tex is making a
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shitload of money
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so that you'd have a few juicy stories
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to tell Kevin moon what I remember
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you're getting it almost every day from
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11:00
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how we used to go hey
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you're in st. Vincent weren't you he
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said you were live-ins boy come on Kevin
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it's all over the news I mean I know who
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Lavin is
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maybe it's better if we didn't see each
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other for a while take care of yourself
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okay
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let's start by talking about yourself um
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any particular aspect myself you want to
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Arab oh yeah yeah well I'll tell you my
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purpose I don't want you to feel that
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I'm pulling you anywhere that you don't
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want to go okay tell me where you're
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like I think what had what's happening
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to you now has a certain meaning and we
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might get into that meaning if we can
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put this present experience in the total
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perspective of your life I didn't I
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don't know my natural parents for one
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thing I was raised in a series of foster
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homes three between the ages of three
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and nine and you never had any other
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type of home no I went to the orphanage
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after the foster home but no I didn't
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have any other type of home no I don't
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think it was damaging to me I don't feel
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I was damaged by that it certainly made
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me a stronger person I didn't have the
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benefits or the the the the blanketing
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privileges of some of the kids that I
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was in the homes with I mean they grew
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up to be quite quite soft and needy and
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you grow to be hard no I grew to
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understand life as it is as a real
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situation not something that you
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fantasize about
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and you go to church after what they
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done to us
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I went back after I started going out
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with Donna you should have seen me first
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time I've been inside a church since I
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left the orphanage I'm sitting there
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right and there's this priest up front
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and he's talking about that part of the
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Lord's Prayer you know forgive us our
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trespasses as we forgive them that
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trespass against us no friggin way
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around it's exactly what I said forgive
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them bastards no way I stood right up
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and I walked out of that church I
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thought I was gonna puke I was just
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filled with this rage just wanted to
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kill one of them nothing too bad or too
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painful for the brothers if you ask me I
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know it then I started to think what
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would I do if I met one of them Glynn
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Sayer laughing absolutely I kill him I
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kill him
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no question so then I went back to
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church to try and patch things up with
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Donna and there's all this stuff about
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forgiveness again and I thought well
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maybe I could forgive him they were all
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dead
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exactly
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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but if I couldn't forgive him then I
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knew I had to live with this rage I just
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couldn't do that
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I guess I started to see what they were
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talking about yeah I don't hate them
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anymore
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forgive me forget huh no way buddy
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the trial of brother James Glackin got
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off to a sensational start today with
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the testimony of a young man who told
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about visits made to his bed at night by
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the brother in charge his dorm along the
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way to trial of Peter John Lavin the man
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who was in charge when the offences were
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alleged to have occurred will be next on
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the docket at police headquarters
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Peter mm-hmm I'd like to see you in my
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office laughing Katherine I'm gonna need
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everything on end for this afternoon I'm
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going to need current proposal former
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proposals of the whole thing it's only
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temporary until all this is settled look
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it was my expertise that got us this
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contract in the first place all right
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I'm the one who's given up family hours
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to dovetail the needs of the school
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board with the needs of the Planning
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Commission I am the one who got the
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bloody ball rolling in the first place
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enough you were suspended how's it this
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minute whatever happened to innocent
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until proven guilty
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why the hell I am in the position I'm in
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I don't know I don't know
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let me explain something to you in the
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orphanage both as a kid and an All
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Saints brother the day started early in
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the morning you had something to do
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every minute of the day until you went
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to sleep as a kid you had an hour off or
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so to spend some time in the library
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watch some television play some pool you
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got older you got to play pool there's
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an All Saints brother your day started
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two hours before and ended two hours
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later and everything you did was for the
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kids I mean everything fundraising
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coaching teaching is it is that okay for
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me to say you love these kids let that
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describe what you felt yeah yeah
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so you like that stuff yeah that's
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pretty cool yeah what do you think your
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dad would let you wear that we're not to
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church maybe okay bill this is what you
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gotta do you go for your first communion
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instead of going back and sitting down
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with your parents again what you're
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gonna do is you gotta sneak back in line
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again get it a second time that's what I
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get and I dare you nope no kidding
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that's what I did swear together okay
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this is why I even dare you to do this
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okay all right
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think you can handle yeah yeah I think
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your folks will say nothing I think it
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might be they're looking a lot cooler
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now aren't they nice shirt
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thank you much cool t-shirt in all right
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Billy remember what I said
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by the first
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my place
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yes
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[Music]
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simple firm yet did you know he was bad
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[Music]
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yes
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good boy in 1975 we were the Minister of
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Social Services is that correct that's
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correct now we've heard a lot of
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testimony about reports within your own
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department can you tell me what your
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knowledge of these events is I'm afraid
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I can't tell you anything the first I
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heard of it was when this thing hit the
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papers this past year you never heard
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about the police investigation never you
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never heard about complaints from within
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your own department never were you aware
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that most of the boys in the orphanage
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were placed there by officials from your
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own department of course I knew that but
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as far as I knew the boys were lucky to
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be there
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I thought the brothers were doing a fine
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job did you ever discuss this with the
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premium how could I I told you I never
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heard anything
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it's open
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I missed you you know missed you too
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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Nicolle big debate on me wait hmm
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you get a good night's sleep okay
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and you get a good night's sleep okay in
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the morning this family's gonna go play
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some hockey yeah
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[Music]
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the kids come home cried
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things are being said to them at school
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what things what do you think Peter I
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don't know what to think anymore you
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never talked about the orphanage why not
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because it was a nightmare
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Chantell there were false accusations
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then there are false accusations now
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that's why I've left the order you left
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because of accusations but
557
00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:26,040
you told me you left because you could
558
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,220
no longer maintain your vows that's
559
00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:33,510
right so I can no longer maintain the
560
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:38,150
vow of obedience to simply humbly and
561
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:43,710
joyfully they but there was something
562
00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:47,960
wrong going on while you were in charge
563
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,639
[Music]
564
00:43:01,580 --> 00:43:08,520
because I was the superintendent some
565
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,680
blame fell on me they say their satyr
566
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:21,290
should have known did you know
567
00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:56,369
my wife in good times and in bad women
568
00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:48,380
[Music]
569
00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:53,820
[Music]
570
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:36,569
[Music]
571
00:45:36,569 --> 00:45:41,669
can you describe me very minutely how
572
00:45:41,669 --> 00:45:44,189
was it to you when you first met her
573
00:45:44,189 --> 00:45:47,579
were the first times you met her and
574
00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:59,539
just just describe how you feel safe say
575
00:46:00,589 --> 00:46:02,189
she made me feel
576
00:46:02,189 --> 00:46:12,329
I think safe yeah there was a trust it
577
00:46:12,329 --> 00:46:20,609
was a response to me you know there was
578
00:46:20,609 --> 00:46:23,910
a romance again what kind of eye care
579
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:38,009
and well one thing led to another and we
580
00:46:38,009 --> 00:46:40,369
got married
581
00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:48,099
and then
582
00:46:48,430 --> 00:46:52,809
and then a year after we got married we
583
00:46:52,809 --> 00:46:56,200
decided to have children so we had
584
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,980
children we had two children right away
585
00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:01,749
Anton was the first and etic was the
586
00:47:01,749 --> 00:47:07,329
second it was an incredible thing having
587
00:47:07,329 --> 00:47:12,069
my own child you know because I had
588
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:22,869
never had natural parents you and there
589
00:47:22,869 --> 00:47:29,039
was these two things that were mine yeah
590
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:42,460
and they were just opened so I wanted to
591
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:49,900
give them you know what what you know I
592
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,259
missed
593
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:23,360
[Music]
594
00:48:25,490 --> 00:48:40,060
[Music]
595
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:43,060
yeah
596
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:51,130
[Music]
597
00:48:51,130 --> 00:48:54,229
[Applause]
598
00:48:55,579 --> 00:49:06,510
we know I was making up some spaghetti
599
00:49:06,510 --> 00:49:10,970
with you watch the game have a few bear
600
00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:18,710
yeah I guess you don't need bears you
601
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:23,250
know there's good bar right there no
602
00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:33,380
that's okay go home I'm just going out
603
00:49:33,530 --> 00:49:45,540
yep where you think you're gonna go got
604
00:49:45,540 --> 00:50:09,210
some people yeah oh that's nice just
605
00:50:09,210 --> 00:50:11,849
some stuff I need some stuff we got yeah
606
00:50:11,849 --> 00:50:14,730
it's you know it's hard it's really hard
607
00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:17,280
what's hurt no it was hard hard stuff
608
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,059
and then Tim it's good it's good does it
609
00:50:21,059 --> 00:50:30,270
it's hard it's hard stuff you don't even
610
00:50:30,270 --> 00:50:32,339
go for a walk later or something take
611
00:50:32,339 --> 00:50:34,230
get in the car will go for Drive good
612
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:38,329
guy more to help you
613
00:50:45,770 --> 00:50:48,800
[Music]
614
00:50:51,230 --> 00:50:55,160
let me called you're not going to you're
615
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,630
not going nowhere like goodnight alright
616
00:50:59,630 --> 00:51:02,890
then see if I care
617
00:51:03,099 --> 00:51:06,079
go buy smart dope on Water Street like
618
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,710
the rest of the boys
619
00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:21,739
[Music]
620
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:24,870
hello it's me
621
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:30,010
no I can't buy yeah he's got it no I
622
00:51:30,010 --> 00:51:40,240
don't know I don't know we're just now
623
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,160
chief Kennedy did you meet with
624
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,260
Monsignor for Google concerning this
625
00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:51,970
matter concerning this matter no I don't
626
00:51:51,970 --> 00:51:57,940
think so well I can't be sure now I've
627
00:51:57,940 --> 00:52:00,300
had some trouble with my memory
628
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:02,680
particularly around that period of time
629
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,210
that since my operation pardon me
630
00:52:07,210 --> 00:52:09,490
well you say ma'am I had an operation a
631
00:52:09,490 --> 00:52:14,860
few years back a prostate operation I've
632
00:52:14,860 --> 00:52:18,450
had trouble with my memory of her Center
633
00:52:22,190 --> 00:52:25,759
and what about ordering former detective
634
00:52:25,759 --> 00:52:28,740
Noseworthy to alter a police report by
635
00:52:28,740 --> 00:52:35,339
removing sexual references no ma'am not
636
00:52:35,339 --> 00:52:38,910
that I can recall well it does seem
637
00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:40,920
unbelievable doesn't the caller's that a
638
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,710
man who willfully let child molesters go
639
00:52:43,710 --> 00:52:47,250
free a man who by his own admission and
640
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:49,500
suffering from severe brain damage was
641
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:51,809
once the person who ran the police
642
00:52:51,809 --> 00:52:54,660
department in this town here he is he
643
00:52:54,660 --> 00:52:56,609
claims to have had an operation to know
644
00:52:56,609 --> 00:52:59,240
he can't remember a thing
645
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:03,150
hi-ho boy do you believe him give us a
646
00:53:03,150 --> 00:53:05,400
call let us know how you feel we got
647
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,869
somebody on the air we got somebody on
648
00:53:06,869 --> 00:53:09,000
line two go ahead line two you're on the
649
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:14,730
air look at these hi holy brothers they
650
00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:17,130
all say they're not guilty that's true
651
00:53:17,130 --> 00:53:19,890
you know what I think we are no but I
652
00:53:19,890 --> 00:53:21,210
got a feeling you're gonna tell me sex
653
00:53:21,210 --> 00:53:24,000
sex that's what it's all about the
654
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,180
church won't allow have sex now you take
655
00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:28,470
a bunch of priests and you lock them
656
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:30,690
away with these young boys well what do
657
00:53:30,690 --> 00:53:32,880
you SPECT he's gonna happen huh well you
658
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,680
certainly have strong views on a collar
659
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,450
and thanks very much for sharing him
660
00:53:36,450 --> 00:53:41,250
with us and I've been celibate up to
661
00:53:41,250 --> 00:53:42,289
this point
662
00:53:42,289 --> 00:53:48,630
sex was terrifying for me um which is
663
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:50,339
one of the reasons I wanted to the All
664
00:53:50,339 --> 00:53:51,920
Saints brothers as well you know I just
665
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,609
didn't have to deal with it
666
00:53:57,530 --> 00:54:08,170
what what was in the way here
667
00:54:08,430 --> 00:54:11,870
okay see your own
668
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,530
I don't know if your of loving I don't
669
00:54:15,530 --> 00:54:17,620
know
670
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,950
don't move away from from where you are
671
00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:31,359
inside what do you feel now I feel like
672
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:40,480
hell I had a family now I have a bunch
673
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,750
of enemies
674
00:54:56,170 --> 00:55:00,309
I got in a fight
675
00:55:00,309 --> 00:55:06,250
Oleg Kurtz yeah well Oh No
676
00:55:06,250 --> 00:55:07,920
[Music]
677
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,359
have you got any broken bones oh boy
678
00:55:12,359 --> 00:55:14,769
I'm going your way do you want a ride
679
00:55:14,769 --> 00:55:16,420
home
680
00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:47,099
[Music]
681
00:55:49,470 --> 00:55:52,600
[Music]
682
00:55:55,050 --> 00:56:00,740
[Music]
683
00:56:00,740 --> 00:56:09,200
I wanted to hold him his neck looked so
684
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:17,950
soft so young and perfect
685
00:56:20,530 --> 00:56:25,960
I felt aroused father alive in my groin
686
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:33,370
I wanted to feel his warmth and
687
00:56:33,370 --> 00:56:39,340
tenderness I wanted to feel the rush of
688
00:56:39,340 --> 00:56:45,750
release did you touch him
689
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:55,600
no have you had these desires before not
690
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,740
for a long time what did you do then
691
00:56:59,740 --> 00:57:03,360
about these desires
692
00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:11,809
I sinned father so you we're aware that
693
00:57:11,809 --> 00:57:14,750
some of the boys had suffered abuse is
694
00:57:14,750 --> 00:57:15,970
that correct
695
00:57:15,970 --> 00:57:19,039
yes and I could tell you was a
696
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,470
tremendous shock and what did you do
697
00:57:21,470 --> 00:57:24,430
about them I beg your pardon
698
00:57:24,430 --> 00:57:28,369
the boys Monsignor did it occur to you
699
00:57:28,369 --> 00:57:30,789
that some of them might need counseling
700
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:33,640
I've told you it was a long time ago
701
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,380
none of us knew then what we know now
702
00:57:36,380 --> 00:57:39,069
about the effects of these things I
703
00:57:39,069 --> 00:57:41,390
thought that the boys would be best
704
00:57:41,390 --> 00:57:44,270
served by not putting them through any
705
00:57:44,270 --> 00:57:46,789
more embarrassment are you aware that
706
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:48,349
some of the brothers who remained in the
707
00:57:48,349 --> 00:57:51,140
orphanage after the police investigation
708
00:57:51,140 --> 00:57:54,380
was shut down in 1975 are now charged
709
00:57:54,380 --> 00:57:56,539
with criminal acts of sexual abuse
710
00:57:56,539 --> 00:58:00,530
against those same boys yes I am it
711
00:58:00,530 --> 00:58:03,069
pains me greatly
712
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,130
now what about brother Levin what about
713
00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:09,049
him well we're you aware that the police
714
00:58:09,049 --> 00:58:10,819
had evidence against him as well
715
00:58:10,819 --> 00:58:14,020
certainly not
716
00:58:28,220 --> 00:58:31,020
if there's any further disruption I will
717
00:58:31,020 --> 00:58:35,040
close this hearing to the public proceed
718
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,830
counselor now getting back to brother
719
00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:42,210
Lavin wasn't he shipped out as well I
720
00:58:42,210 --> 00:58:44,220
wouldn't put it that way
721
00:58:44,220 --> 00:58:46,140
wasn't that part of the deal after all
722
00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:48,300
and million-dollar grant was at stake
723
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:49,890
there was no deal
724
00:58:49,890 --> 00:58:53,220
I've told you brother laughing he got a
725
00:58:53,220 --> 00:58:56,360
well deserved rest that's all
726
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,940
as for the other two brothers I was only
727
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:02,910
following instructions whose
728
00:59:02,910 --> 00:59:05,390
instructions are you following
729
00:59:05,390 --> 00:59:10,320
Jerome Ward the Deputy Minister of
730
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,420
Justice who died five years ago
731
00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:17,940
unfortunately you never talked to anyone
732
00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:24,480
else well boy that's the way it looks
733
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,950
doesn't it because so far the only
734
00:59:25,950 --> 00:59:27,270
government official who's been
735
00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:29,130
implicated and the only government
736
00:59:29,130 --> 00:59:30,900
official who anybody can remember being
737
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:33,000
at any meetings any time for those
738
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,610
people can remember anything at all was
739
00:59:35,610 --> 00:59:38,250
the the Deputy Minister of Justice the
740
00:59:38,250 --> 00:59:46,740
late the very late Jerome ward yeah well
741
00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:50,600
we got a move on now caller go ahead
742
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,580
- you're on their way they might just as
743
00:59:55,580 --> 00:59:57,350
well call the Ghostbusters as far as I'm
744
00:59:57,350 --> 01:00:00,040
concerned what
745
01:00:04,460 --> 01:00:06,630
scared out of me mind before I went in
746
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:09,960
there I just answered a question so
747
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,590
there's nothing to it really
748
01:00:12,590 --> 01:00:20,579
[Music]
749
01:00:20,579 --> 01:00:25,079
where do you live now Stephen in Toronto
750
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:26,859
are you employed
751
01:00:26,859 --> 01:00:29,200
what do you work at I'm looking for a
752
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,490
job that's what I was doing before you I
753
01:00:30,490 --> 01:00:34,420
came down weren't you on welfare Stephen
754
01:00:34,420 --> 01:00:36,579
and have been for the past few years
755
01:00:36,579 --> 01:00:40,240
yeah now and then sure Jesus what else
756
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,390
do you gonna do I gotta eat boy just the
757
01:00:43,390 --> 01:00:47,049
answer Stephen do you do you have a
758
01:00:47,049 --> 01:00:48,299
criminal record
759
01:00:48,299 --> 01:00:55,269
yeah a few small things break and entry
760
01:00:55,269 --> 01:00:59,049
self possession of illegal drugs drunk
761
01:00:59,049 --> 01:01:01,990
driving these are not small things mr.
762
01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:14,369
Lenny are you a male prostitute Stephen
763
01:01:14,369 --> 01:01:16,960
it's because I see here four arrests for
764
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,289
male prostitution objection milord it's
765
01:01:20,289 --> 01:01:20,799
okay
766
01:01:20,799 --> 01:01:24,720
I'll withdraw the question now Stephen
767
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,499
you stayed at the orphanage for
768
01:01:29,499 --> 01:01:32,890
six more years is that correct I don't
769
01:01:32,890 --> 01:01:35,829
know put the question another way
770
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:38,170
the records I have show that you left
771
01:01:38,170 --> 01:01:41,019
the orphanage at age 16 is that correct
772
01:01:41,019 --> 01:01:48,069
yeah good when you were 15 and 16 do you
773
01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:50,289
remember a boy by the name of Alfred
774
01:01:50,289 --> 01:01:57,910
Langston I don't know how about Joseph
775
01:01:57,910 --> 01:02:00,269
Calvin
776
01:02:03,810 --> 01:02:09,900
Jeremie O'Toole Oh God let me help your
777
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:13,770
memory you were 15
778
01:02:13,770 --> 01:02:17,190
they were about seven or eight we were
779
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:20,550
fully grown or half your height came up
780
01:02:20,550 --> 01:02:23,720
to your waist does that help mr. Lenny
781
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,280
this is not true did you force them to
782
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,410
perform sexual acts upon your person
783
01:02:28,410 --> 01:02:32,310
Stephen you remember in the downstairs
784
01:02:32,310 --> 01:02:34,260
bathroom does that help your memory or
785
01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:38,070
on the back fire escape you've accused
786
01:02:38,070 --> 01:02:39,780
my client of sexual abuse Stephen when
787
01:02:39,780 --> 01:02:41,640
you know that you are the criminal and I
788
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,430
have witnesses to prove it you've lied
789
01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:49,200
to Stephen and I can prove it 15 years
790
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,670
ago you told the police that brother
791
01:02:50,670 --> 01:02:52,980
Glackin never touched you so are you
792
01:02:52,980 --> 01:02:54,660
lying then or were you are you lying now
793
01:02:54,660 --> 01:02:56,610
which is it maybe you're just a liar
794
01:02:56,610 --> 01:03:03,490
answer the question all right
795
01:03:03,490 --> 01:03:06,360
minutes
796
01:03:06,430 --> 01:03:17,209
[Music]
797
01:03:19,330 --> 01:03:22,810
[Music]
798
01:03:27,380 --> 01:03:29,390
things came to a chaotic halt today that
799
01:03:29,390 --> 01:03:31,100
the trial of brother James Glackin
800
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:33,380
when a former resident was accused of
801
01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:35,510
sexually abusing younger boys at the
802
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:36,260
orphanage
803
01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:38,540
the fact that the young man has a long
804
01:03:38,540 --> 01:03:40,310
criminal record including prostitution
805
01:03:40,310 --> 01:03:42,800
convictions was also brought out under
806
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,740
cross-examination the trial of brother
807
01:03:45,740 --> 01:03:48,010
Glackin is expected to resume tomorrow
808
01:03:48,010 --> 01:03:52,070
Jesus with a circus you should go see
809
01:03:52,070 --> 01:03:54,320
him Kevin I mean you could probably use
810
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,500
a friend now you know so now you're
811
01:03:57,500 --> 01:04:00,910
gonna start telling me what to do I
812
01:04:01,270 --> 01:04:03,850
didn't mean it like that it's just I
813
01:04:03,850 --> 01:04:06,050
mean how would you feel having those
814
01:04:06,050 --> 01:04:07,910
things said about you do you know the
815
01:04:07,910 --> 01:04:11,090
expert or something it always was a
816
01:04:11,090 --> 01:04:14,840
little hustler come on Kevin I'm just
817
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,750
trying to help don't take it out on me
818
01:04:16,750 --> 01:04:21,650
don't take what out on you well I don't
819
01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:24,500
care what you say at least he stood up
820
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:27,130
and tried to do something about it I
821
01:04:27,130 --> 01:04:29,390
think you should too Kevin I mean you
822
01:04:29,390 --> 01:04:32,090
can't let that criminal he'll get away
823
01:04:32,090 --> 01:04:36,790
with it not after what he did to you
824
01:04:36,970 --> 01:04:41,410
what do you know about what he did to me
825
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,860
I don't care about what he did to you
826
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,349
I care about what it's doing to you now
827
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:55,030
I look Sheila
828
01:04:55,030 --> 01:04:58,869
no you look it's eating you up Kevin
829
01:04:58,869 --> 01:05:02,800
look at yourself I mean the way you wake
830
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,609
up at night uni you go punch him guy in
831
01:05:06,609 --> 01:05:08,970
a bar
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01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,560
you're afraid when we're having sex come
833
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,740
on Kevin you know it's true I don't
834
01:05:18,740 --> 01:05:19,970
think you even enjoy it
835
01:05:19,970 --> 01:05:24,580
I'm warning you Sheila you're what
836
01:05:24,580 --> 01:05:29,180
warning me what Kevin what are you gonna
837
01:05:29,180 --> 01:05:30,620
do you're gonna punch me out cuz I'm
838
01:05:30,620 --> 01:05:33,400
trying to help just leave me alone okay
839
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,810
no I won't leave you alone Sheila
840
01:05:35,810 --> 01:05:37,100
there's no way if you understand what
841
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:39,550
all this means
842
01:05:40,450 --> 01:05:46,240
there who said anything about fair I
843
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,150
know too goddamn well what fair means is
844
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:51,650
it fair that after all these friggin
845
01:05:51,650 --> 01:05:52,730
years just what I'm starting put all
846
01:05:52,730 --> 01:05:54,440
that [ __ ] behind me I'm supposed to come
847
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,530
out smiling and get on camera and say oh
848
01:05:57,530 --> 01:05:59,420
yeah that's the fella that's the guy
849
01:05:59,420 --> 01:06:00,680
used to grab me by the back of the neck
850
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,900
and haul me into his office and make me
851
01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:04,220
sit on his lap while he put his hands
852
01:06:04,220 --> 01:06:09,170
down my pants and started groaning he's
853
01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:11,980
anything else you want to know
854
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:32,390
[Music]
855
01:06:35,550 --> 01:06:38,610
isn't it ironic that on the very day
856
01:06:38,610 --> 01:06:40,980
that this city is gripped by the tragic
857
01:06:40,980 --> 01:06:43,320
death of young Stephen money who died
858
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,230
from an overdose that on this very day a
859
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:48,990
jury returned with a verdict of guilty
860
01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:51,960
on eight counts of sexual assault and
861
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,540
indecent exposure against whether James
862
01:06:54,540 --> 01:06:57,690
blacken the very man who tortured poor
863
01:06:57,690 --> 01:06:59,700
Stephens when he was a little boy at the
864
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:04,970
orphanage go ahead line for your on-air
865
01:07:04,970 --> 01:07:12,650
shaws.com to reality we the tableau no
866
01:07:12,650 --> 01:07:24,930
regard on the tableau repeated go ahead
867
01:07:24,930 --> 01:07:27,840
don't be shy come on come on what is
868
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:38,160
this show us uh okay with an apron were
869
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:43,130
not the scary trio tableau
870
01:08:01,270 --> 01:08:07,230
what hmm Stephens dead
871
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:29,169
[Music]
872
01:08:30,910 --> 01:08:34,040
we're gathered here today say farewell
873
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,969
to her brother in Christ Stephan Lonnie
874
01:08:36,969 --> 01:08:38,988
would you please join me in the Lord's
875
01:08:38,988 --> 01:08:42,890
Prayer our Father who art in heaven
876
01:08:42,890 --> 01:08:45,948
hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come
877
01:08:45,948 --> 01:08:49,100
thy will be done on earth as it is in
878
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:52,040
heaven give us this day our daily bread
879
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,160
and forgive us our trespasses as we
880
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,370
forgive those who trespass against us
881
01:08:57,370 --> 01:09:00,799
and lead us not into temptation deliver
882
01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:03,439
us from evil for thine is the kingdom
883
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,469
the power and the glory for ever and
884
01:09:06,469 --> 01:09:08,469
ever amen
885
01:09:08,469 --> 01:09:12,140
Lord we seed the soul of Steven Lonny
886
01:09:12,140 --> 01:09:16,100
and present him to God on high and give
887
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:18,529
him eternal life Lord may your light
888
01:09:18,529 --> 01:09:19,330
shine on him forever
889
01:09:19,330 --> 01:10:00,100
[Music]
890
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:10,400
that was never right Sheila that one
891
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,350
here you always do what she tells him
892
01:10:15,310 --> 01:10:17,500
working on it
893
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:21,980
no you try to send an example okay all
894
01:10:21,980 --> 01:10:24,320
right first thing I'd say a couple words
895
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,770
me one last buddy Kevin here at she
896
01:10:27,770 --> 01:10:36,620
going boy listen don't do it I took one
897
01:10:36,620 --> 01:10:45,230
that sting put it on the Steve maybe
898
01:10:45,230 --> 01:10:47,120
none of this would happen if James just
899
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,880
left him alone or whatever he was ad up
900
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,840
there and shrunk what is there what I
901
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:59,330
seen what they done name he ripped him
902
01:10:59,330 --> 01:11:01,570
apart
903
01:11:02,590 --> 01:11:05,989
braided him out for all frigging world
904
01:11:05,989 --> 01:11:12,650
to look at for the record what was your
905
01:11:12,650 --> 01:11:15,530
position in 1975 I was Minister of
906
01:11:15,530 --> 01:11:18,199
Justice at the time were you aware of a
907
01:11:18,199 --> 01:11:20,210
police investigation concerning San
908
01:11:20,210 --> 01:11:23,360
Vincente orphanage no I never heard
909
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,300
about it your department ordered the
910
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:27,500
Chief of Police to shut down that
911
01:11:27,500 --> 01:11:30,290
investigation do you know about that I
912
01:11:30,290 --> 01:11:37,820
was never informed many people assume
913
01:11:37,820 --> 01:11:40,130
that as Minister you must have known
914
01:11:40,130 --> 01:11:42,679
about such a potentially explosive
915
01:11:42,679 --> 01:11:46,280
matter that's because they don't know
916
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:51,020
how government works did you ever
917
01:11:51,020 --> 01:11:54,140
discuss this matter in cabinet you know
918
01:11:54,140 --> 01:11:56,389
perfectly well that I am bound by an
919
01:11:56,389 --> 01:11:59,840
oath of cabinet secrecy I can only
920
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:00,840
repeat
921
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,360
knew nothing of course
922
01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:36,000
okay what's going on I had to take
923
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,420
children out of school Peter won't have
924
01:12:39,420 --> 01:12:45,210
them put through any more of this are
925
01:12:45,210 --> 01:12:47,430
you talking about I've sent them to my
926
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:53,460
mother's I will not have my children
927
01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:56,670
taken away from me Shawn no well you
928
01:12:56,670 --> 01:12:59,790
can't stay here you've got to go back
929
01:12:59,790 --> 01:13:07,340
there and I'm coming with you yes I am
930
01:13:07,340 --> 01:13:11,940
well you are not I tell you are not
931
01:13:11,940 --> 01:13:14,750
coming with me and that is final
932
01:13:14,750 --> 01:13:24,690
I've made all the arrangements let's see
933
01:13:24,690 --> 01:13:27,050
for myself
934
01:13:30,860 --> 01:13:36,120
I would love to have you come with me
935
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,360
but your place is here over here
936
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:54,020
I'm coming Evek salt we're suit yourself
937
01:13:54,140 --> 01:13:55,560
good times
938
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,090
and dad remember
939
01:14:02,610 --> 01:14:21,699
[Music]
940
01:14:25,300 --> 01:14:28,349
come to bed
941
01:14:30,489 --> 01:14:42,769
soon thinking about laughs how scared I
942
01:14:42,769 --> 01:14:44,800
was
943
01:14:49,840 --> 01:15:02,879
[Music]
944
01:15:05,500 --> 01:15:07,110
why
945
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:22,619
[Music]
946
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:29,209
we've gone a long way together right can
947
01:15:29,209 --> 01:15:32,769
you tell me how you feel about me now
948
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:40,940
I think I trust you
949
01:15:50,989 --> 01:15:55,869
I'm afraid of you in what sense
950
01:15:55,869 --> 01:15:59,199
afraid of me
951
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,780
take my hand
952
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:43,150
Peter don't hurt me okay I promise I
953
01:16:43,150 --> 01:16:48,900
promise I won't hurt you
954
01:16:54,370 --> 01:16:56,600
there's one thing you can do for
955
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:03,320
yourself yeah okay you as a grown man as
956
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:08,690
an adult has a strong grown man you can
957
01:17:08,690 --> 01:17:13,429
go down inside and you can meet this
958
01:17:13,429 --> 01:17:21,469
little boy that you were was longing for
959
01:17:21,469 --> 01:17:24,070
somebody
960
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:36,120
and you carried this longing all your
961
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,390
life
962
01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:53,640
[Music]
963
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:59,400
be here somewhere Peter George are you
964
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,070
good to see see you George
965
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:11,850
Stoney this is Chantal Chantal hail Mary
966
01:18:11,850 --> 01:18:13,500
full of grace the Lord is with thee
967
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:15,900
blessed art thou amongst women and
968
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:18,330
blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus
969
01:18:18,330 --> 01:18:21,630
Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us
970
01:18:21,630 --> 01:18:23,520
sinners now and at the hour of our death
971
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,570
mama heater hail Mary full of grace the
972
01:18:27,570 --> 01:18:29,910
Lord is with thee blessed art thou
973
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:31,590
amongst women and blessed is the fruit
974
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:34,950
of thy womb Jesus Holy Mary Mother of
975
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:36,990
God pray for us sinners now and at the
976
01:18:36,990 --> 01:18:41,010
hour of our death on Mary's hail Mary
977
01:18:41,010 --> 01:18:43,860
full of grace the Lord is with blessed
978
01:18:43,860 --> 01:18:45,690
art thou amongst women and blessed is
979
01:18:45,690 --> 01:18:48,870
the fruit of thy womb Jesus Holy Mary
980
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:51,030
Mother of God pray for us sinners now
981
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:55,170
and at the hour of our tell me what will
982
01:18:55,170 --> 01:18:57,630
I hear in that Accord rooms tomorrow's
983
01:18:57,630 --> 01:19:03,050
with the Blessed blessed is the fruit
984
01:19:21,820 --> 01:19:36,580
I can forgive to tell me what have you
985
01:19:36,580 --> 01:19:38,940
done
986
01:20:17,630 --> 01:20:19,429
state your name please
987
01:20:19,429 --> 01:20:21,900
Kevin Reedy do you swear that the
988
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:23,340
evidence you shall give to the court
989
01:20:23,340 --> 01:20:24,989
shall be the truth the whole truth and
990
01:20:24,989 --> 01:20:27,300
nothing but the truth so help you God I
991
01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:34,349
do I have here a police witness
992
01:20:34,349 --> 01:20:39,329
statement I'd like you to look at the
993
01:20:39,329 --> 01:20:42,059
signature on the bottom mr. Revie I ask
994
01:20:42,059 --> 01:20:44,309
you now is that your true signature made
995
01:20:44,309 --> 01:20:48,420
by your own hand yes it is you go back
996
01:20:48,420 --> 01:20:50,999
to the top of the document sir I'd like
997
01:20:50,999 --> 01:20:52,530
to ask you a few questions as we go
998
01:20:52,530 --> 01:20:56,070
through the statement do you remember
999
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:57,719
giving this information to detective
1000
01:20:57,719 --> 01:21:01,709
Noseworthy I do indeed and are you
1001
01:21:01,709 --> 01:21:03,389
prepared to tell this court what was
1002
01:21:03,389 --> 01:21:11,280
done to you I'll give you a moment to
1003
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,150
read through the statement
1004
01:21:18,570 --> 01:21:20,530
I'd like to stir it with the night of
1005
01:21:20,530 --> 01:21:23,260
December 7 that was the night you ran
1006
01:21:23,260 --> 01:21:25,000
away from the orphanage and were brought
1007
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,400
back by the police do you remember that
1008
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,420
incident yes I do remember and when the
1009
01:21:31,420 --> 01:21:33,820
police brought you back who did they
1010
01:21:33,820 --> 01:21:37,690
hand you over to brother Levin could you
1011
01:21:37,690 --> 01:21:39,130
tell this court what happened to you
1012
01:21:39,130 --> 01:21:50,940
then he told me to wait in his office
1013
01:21:51,090 --> 01:21:53,950
and I went down the hallway he was
1014
01:21:53,950 --> 01:21:57,180
talking to the cops all friendly like
1015
01:21:57,180 --> 01:22:01,420
and then I was waiting there he came in
1016
01:22:01,420 --> 01:22:06,550
and closed the door and then he told me
1017
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:10,360
to come over and sit on his lap like you
1018
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,840
always did
1019
01:22:14,820 --> 01:22:18,330
what happened next
1020
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:24,890
took off my shirt and he was kissing me
1021
01:22:24,890 --> 01:22:30,590
on the neck on the shoulders he was
1022
01:22:30,590 --> 01:22:34,010
saying that he was my mother I told him
1023
01:22:34,010 --> 01:22:35,000
that it wasn't my mother and that my
1024
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,390
mother was dead
1025
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,160
and then he beat me
1026
01:22:52,250 --> 01:22:55,650
mr. Revie our records show that you were
1027
01:22:55,650 --> 01:22:57,540
ten years old when this incident took
1028
01:22:57,540 --> 01:23:02,639
place that be correct yes and the man
1029
01:23:02,639 --> 01:23:05,369
who did these things to you is that man
1030
01:23:05,369 --> 01:23:10,170
here in this courtroom today he is would
1031
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:13,699
you point him out for the court please
1032
01:23:17,989 --> 01:23:21,449
let the record show that the witness
1033
01:23:21,449 --> 01:23:26,670
identified the defendant now this wasn't
1034
01:23:26,670 --> 01:23:29,310
the first time that you were sexually
1035
01:23:29,310 --> 01:23:33,840
assaulted by Brother eleven was it no no
1036
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,050
I used to be his boy
1037
01:23:36,050 --> 01:23:40,619
when did it start not long after I went
1038
01:23:40,619 --> 01:23:45,659
into the place do you remember the first
1039
01:23:45,659 --> 01:23:49,699
time yes
1040
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:55,110
could you tell us about it please first
1041
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:58,980
time was in the pool do you remember how
1042
01:23:58,980 --> 01:24:01,250
it started
1043
01:24:03,020 --> 01:24:07,380
it was Eastern all the other ones were
1044
01:24:07,380 --> 01:24:10,739
gone to visit so I went to him and asked
1045
01:24:10,739 --> 01:24:12,469
him how come I couldn't go out anywhere
1046
01:24:12,469 --> 01:24:18,179
because I was alone I want to know how
1047
01:24:18,179 --> 01:24:19,260
come I didn't have an uncle or an aunt
1048
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:20,610
or anyone who would come and see me and
1049
01:24:20,610 --> 01:24:25,889
take me out I mean I remembered mom and
1050
01:24:25,889 --> 01:24:27,690
dad in the funeral so I knew I was an
1051
01:24:27,690 --> 01:24:31,260
orphan but I got to thinking I must have
1052
01:24:31,260 --> 01:24:33,830
some family
1053
01:24:35,079 --> 01:24:43,359
I went to see brother Lavin he was real
1054
01:24:43,359 --> 01:24:54,729
nice to me after that went swimming we
1055
01:24:54,729 --> 01:24:56,049
were loving the pool and I remember
1056
01:24:56,049 --> 01:24:57,909
they're having a good time he was
1057
01:24:57,909 --> 01:24:58,719
throwing me up in the air
1058
01:24:58,719 --> 01:25:06,999
I would splash down but then suddenly he
1059
01:25:06,999 --> 01:25:09,879
was holding me I'm pressing me against
1060
01:25:09,879 --> 01:25:21,519
him and he took off my bathing suit and
1061
01:25:21,519 --> 01:25:27,129
then he took off his bathing suit he was
1062
01:25:27,129 --> 01:25:32,169
pressing me against him what did he do
1063
01:25:32,169 --> 01:25:34,439
next
1064
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:42,790
he was rubbing himself against me and I
1065
01:25:42,790 --> 01:25:45,600
felt him get hard
1066
01:25:49,429 --> 01:25:51,289
he was trying to force this thing inside
1067
01:25:51,289 --> 01:25:53,590
me
1068
01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:03,000
I remember I was crying because it hurt
1069
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:11,730
so much it seemed to go on for a long
1070
01:26:11,730 --> 01:26:16,770
time this moaning and groaning and
1071
01:26:16,770 --> 01:26:19,520
finally stopped
1072
01:26:23,330 --> 01:26:29,310
and after that I became his boy and he
1073
01:26:29,310 --> 01:26:32,540
would have me called to his office
1074
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,930
[Music]
1075
01:26:49,010 --> 01:27:16,979
[Applause]
1076
01:27:37,670 --> 01:27:41,660
I would like to speak to my husband of
1077
01:27:41,660 --> 01:27:46,150
course I'll be outside
1078
01:28:01,730 --> 01:28:04,110
didn't you feel anything
1079
01:28:04,110 --> 01:28:10,790
listening to that testimony yes I did
1080
01:28:14,219 --> 01:28:16,289
I thought what a martyr I'd been all my
1081
01:28:16,289 --> 01:28:20,489
life first of those lying little
1082
01:28:20,489 --> 01:28:27,869
bastards and now to you you feel no
1083
01:28:27,869 --> 01:28:36,420
guilt no shame kevin reavie was a lonely
1084
01:28:36,420 --> 01:28:38,190
little boy who might be friended out of
1085
01:28:38,190 --> 01:28:41,510
the kindness of my heart
1086
01:28:47,519 --> 01:28:50,069
I loved
1087
01:28:50,069 --> 01:28:55,639
I have to you call that love
1088
01:28:58,159 --> 01:29:00,139
yes I do
1089
01:29:00,139 --> 01:29:07,639
no that is not loving that is hurting
1090
01:29:07,639 --> 01:29:12,959
you have heard this little boy I could
1091
01:29:12,959 --> 01:29:15,349
kill you
1092
01:29:30,170 --> 01:29:42,430
I am going to ask this only what touched
1093
01:29:42,430 --> 01:29:46,300
our children
1094
01:29:52,260 --> 01:29:55,570
why don't you ask them yourself they're
1095
01:29:55,570 --> 01:30:04,330
your children that's right they're my
1096
01:30:04,330 --> 01:30:07,020
children
1097
01:30:11,580 --> 01:30:15,260
they're no longer
1098
01:31:01,110 --> 01:32:16,670
[Music]
1099
01:32:16,670 --> 01:32:23,870
until the lost my turn
1100
01:32:26,340 --> 01:33:05,590
[Music]
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