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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,833 --> 00:00:05,833 ♪♪ 2 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,033 I could say the only thing I really ever fantasized about 3 00:01:01,066 --> 00:01:03,700 was being like GI Joe. 4 00:01:03,733 --> 00:01:05,000 - Tom of Finland type 5 00:01:05,033 --> 00:01:08,566 - macho has always been my fantasy. 6 00:01:12,733 --> 00:01:15,633 You know we grew up riding motorcycles in the desert. 7 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:21,833 My dad would always wear Levis and these lace up tall 8 00:01:21,866 --> 00:01:26,100 motorcycle boots and a white t-shirt to ride his motorcycle 9 00:01:26,133 --> 00:01:28,900 in and like that's become my fantasy sort of 10 00:01:28,933 --> 00:01:31,966 outfit of masculinity. 11 00:01:34,266 --> 00:01:37,300 This very masculine look that I guess I always 12 00:01:37,333 --> 00:01:40,100 fantasized about achieving. 13 00:01:41,466 --> 00:01:43,800 My mom would never buy me Levis, 14 00:01:43,833 --> 00:01:45,900 "No, no boys would wear those things." 15 00:01:45,933 --> 00:01:51,133 And I'm thinking, yah aren't I a boy? 16 00:01:51,666 --> 00:01:55,200 I used to get very nervous around my father. 17 00:01:55,233 --> 00:01:59,133 My dad would only know how to react through anger cause I 18 00:01:59,166 --> 00:02:02,466 think that's what he was taught from his dad. 19 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:11,233 And I don't blame what my parents did to me cause they 20 00:02:11,266 --> 00:02:13,766 didn't know how to deal with it. 21 00:02:14,566 --> 00:02:17,633 They didn't understand why I was so out of control. 22 00:02:17,666 --> 00:02:20,333 They didn't understand why I was so angry. 23 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,700 You know maybe they are going to tell you something different, 24 00:02:24,733 --> 00:02:26,000 I don't know. 25 00:02:26,033 --> 00:02:28,433 This is what I remember; this is my feelings of 26 00:02:28,466 --> 00:02:31,100 those particular times. 27 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:41,500 - You guys are so hot. - I know. 28 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:56,466 From the states? 29 00:02:56,500 --> 00:02:59,166 Yes, actually I moved out of the United States to 30 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,066 Mexico now, I don't live in the US anymore. 31 00:03:04,300 --> 00:03:07,433 Yah I like it here, there's much more freedom here to do things. 32 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,500 I work in the sex industry so people are much more open about 33 00:03:13,533 --> 00:03:16,900 sexuality here and sex. 34 00:03:17,433 --> 00:03:18,733 Not in the US. 35 00:03:18,766 --> 00:03:20,333 No they are very closed-minded. 36 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:25,833 Yah I don't know it's always been like that in the US 37 00:03:25,866 --> 00:03:27,700 - they are very scared of naked people. 38 00:03:27,733 --> 00:03:29,200 [laughter]. 39 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,200 - Why? - I don't know, it's weird. 40 00:03:35,033 --> 00:03:37,066 They are basically just going to eat me up here. 41 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:39,133 I have no doubt in my mind that they are just ready for 42 00:03:39,166 --> 00:03:41,466 something like Buck Angel. 43 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:45,033 I mean they are perverts in Europe - and they are proud of it. 44 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:53,866 I am lost. 45 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,866 Today I am at the Venus show - and I just signed a contract 46 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:58,966 with Shots video, which is probably one of the largest 47 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,900 distribution companies in all of Europe to distribute my videos. 48 00:04:07,666 --> 00:04:09,866 So I am here kind of making an appearance and a 49 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:13,900 presence to meet me, cause they don't necessarily 50 00:04:13,933 --> 00:04:15,366 understand who and what I am. 51 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,333 Here you go. 52 00:04:18,366 --> 00:04:19,800 Thank you very much. 53 00:04:32,066 --> 00:04:33,666 I think my favorite thing is that it's a 54 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:35,933 nude photo because I think before they were talking 55 00:04:35,966 --> 00:04:39,100 about maybe just putting a photo of me I had some leather pants 56 00:04:39,133 --> 00:04:42,233 on and my cigar, but I think that the fact that they actually 57 00:04:42,266 --> 00:04:47,800 put a full nude photo of me is awesome because 58 00:04:47,833 --> 00:04:49,700 it's just in your face. 59 00:04:49,733 --> 00:04:51,133 I guess they kinda had to make me naked, 60 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:53,433 or you wouldn't really get it - cause with pants on I just 61 00:04:53,466 --> 00:04:55,200 look like a dude. 62 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:01,466 I am trying to change that it has nothing to do with my 63 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:06,900 genitals - just because I have a pussy doesn't make me not a man. 64 00:05:06,933 --> 00:05:08,066 Buck Angel! 65 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:09,800 What's going on with Buck Angel? 66 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,933 When I gave them the whole low down, 67 00:05:11,966 --> 00:05:13,666 they were like oh - oh I got it. 68 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:15,433 And they are just cool about it? 69 00:05:15,466 --> 00:05:17,066 When I first heard Buck Angel, 70 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:22,833 I saw him and I saw Buck Angel, man with a pussy 71 00:05:22,866 --> 00:05:26,566 - and I thought, oh shit. 72 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:29,900 This is a guy who has gone there, 73 00:05:29,933 --> 00:05:31,966 there he is - and there's the word pussy and it's in 74 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,233 really big letters - and man does he have balls 75 00:05:37,266 --> 00:05:38,766 for doing that. 76 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,733 I felt like that it was important for me to show the 77 00:05:41,766 --> 00:05:46,333 world that it's okay not to fit in the box and it was very 78 00:05:46,366 --> 00:05:51,066 important for me to represent myself in a positive healthy, 79 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:53,533 sexual way. 80 00:05:59,666 --> 00:06:01,533 Hey I'm Buck - Buck Angel. 81 00:06:01,566 --> 00:06:04,600 Enus, Enus what? 82 00:06:04,633 --> 00:06:07,033 Delwood. 83 00:06:07,066 --> 00:06:09,866 Enus Delwood? That's a fucked up name. 84 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:16,933 Basically you can see anything in porn right? 85 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,600 And there was nobody like me in the whole adult business. 86 00:06:27,466 --> 00:06:29,100 I know, I know you did. 87 00:06:29,933 --> 00:06:31,833 You were like... 88 00:06:32,566 --> 00:06:34,500 You have to look. 89 00:06:37,233 --> 00:06:39,500 Oh my god. Look at that! 90 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:42,766 Are you kidding me? Is that photo shopped? 91 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,900 I thought he had a small penis 92 00:06:43,933 --> 00:06:45,900 - but that's really a vagina. 93 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,533 A lot of people get their basic sex education from porn 94 00:06:55,566 --> 00:06:57,066 - not that they necessarily should, 95 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:58,800 and it's because we don't have decent or really any sex 96 00:06:58,833 --> 00:07:00,700 education in most of the United States. 97 00:07:00,733 --> 00:07:03,066 Most porn is not designed to be sex ed. 98 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:05,466 It's designed to be a fantasy. 99 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:07,766 Learning about sex from most porn is like learning about the 100 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,466 laws of physics from a Michael Bay movie. 101 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:15,400 However porn that is intended to be sex educational, 102 00:07:15,433 --> 00:07:17,366 I think can be incredibly powerful. 103 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,766 You see that in work that Buck does, 104 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,233 you see it in work that Tristan Taormino does. 105 00:07:22,266 --> 00:07:25,633 My opinion is that when you do things like he with a 106 00:07:25,666 --> 00:07:28,133 question mark, and she with a question mark - it's just like 107 00:07:28,166 --> 00:07:30,966 what the fuck, you know own it - you are a woman, 108 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,800 you just happen to have a cock. 109 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:39,966 People just can't seem to get around that. 110 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,966 But I am exploiting it, and that's my prerogative cause it's 111 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,233 mine and I own it. 112 00:07:46,566 --> 00:07:48,366 But I'm not an it. 113 00:07:49,166 --> 00:07:50,233 Want a picture? 114 00:07:50,266 --> 00:07:51,333 Can I have a picture with you two please, 115 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Thank you! 116 00:07:56,433 --> 00:07:57,800 I get this email saying I just started a website, 117 00:07:57,833 --> 00:08:02,300 I want to exchange banners so I went to the website and I was 118 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:06,333 like - now me being a transsexual I get people all the time 119 00:08:06,366 --> 00:08:08,200 saying that's odd---and I said to myself - now that's pretty odd. 120 00:08:08,233 --> 00:08:10,200 I didn't know how to like - you know what I am saying? 121 00:08:10,233 --> 00:08:13,733 I was like does he identify himself as a transsexual. 122 00:08:13,766 --> 00:08:15,600 I was doing all the things that make me mad. 123 00:08:15,633 --> 00:08:18,933 Like people would say he when they spoke about me 124 00:08:18,966 --> 00:08:20,300 - I kept saying she. 125 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:22,966 I didn't know I had never been around it. 126 00:08:23,666 --> 00:08:26,266 I'm just a little nervous but I'm excited to be here. 127 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:28,100 I've been wanting to get you in one of my videos for a 128 00:08:28,133 --> 00:08:30,533 long time because I think you are so beautiful. 129 00:08:30,566 --> 00:08:32,600 It's incredible. 130 00:08:32,633 --> 00:08:34,100 We did a video together. 131 00:08:34,133 --> 00:08:35,400 He was really cool. 132 00:08:35,433 --> 00:08:40,600 He knew that this was the first time I ever had sex with how can 133 00:08:40,633 --> 00:08:42,900 I say this, but not a female, first time I ever had 134 00:08:42,933 --> 00:08:46,500 sex with a vagina. 135 00:08:46,533 --> 00:08:48,566 That's the best way to put it. 136 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:56,000 So what I think is really amazing is when Buck does a 137 00:08:56,033 --> 00:09:00,533 scene with a trans-woman who hasn't had bottom surgery. 138 00:09:02,133 --> 00:09:07,633 When you really think about it - any way you slice it you 139 00:09:07,666 --> 00:09:09,600 have a man having sex with a woman, you have a penis 140 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:11,700 going into a vagina. 141 00:09:11,733 --> 00:09:14,033 That penis is on the woman and the vagina is on a man, 142 00:09:14,066 --> 00:09:16,966 and it's a total mind fuck cause it's not how 143 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,000 it's supposed to be. 144 00:09:19,033 --> 00:09:21,200 So I don't really know if we step back if we really consider 145 00:09:21,233 --> 00:09:24,733 heterosexual - but I don't care cause it's awesome regardless. 146 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:30,533 When I see him in a film with these tightened 147 00:09:30,566 --> 00:09:33,566 contract stars - that's gay porn. 148 00:09:38,466 --> 00:09:43,033 At the moment when these categories of - lesbian gay 149 00:09:43,066 --> 00:09:48,700 bisexual straight - their meaning is really in flux. 150 00:09:53,033 --> 00:09:56,400 He's really got that zeitgeist - he's like clutching 151 00:09:56,433 --> 00:10:00,766 that moment and taking it to this whole other place. 152 00:10:10,433 --> 00:10:15,066 [Introduces Buck Angel] 153 00:10:23,866 --> 00:10:28,166 You are kidding me right, this is such a confusing night for me 154 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,700 tonight, Buck. 155 00:10:29,733 --> 00:10:33,000 Because that's true, you look like a man, 156 00:10:33,033 --> 00:10:37,366 and you transformed yourself to a man - but not entirely, 157 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,300 you are still half woman right? 158 00:10:39,333 --> 00:10:41,900 Well no - I mean, that's your opinion. 159 00:10:41,933 --> 00:10:43,766 For me I'm totally male. Just because I don't 160 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,933 have a cock, doesn't mean I'm not a man. 161 00:10:46,966 --> 00:10:50,033 Yes that's the hardest part of me explaining that to the world. 162 00:10:50,066 --> 00:10:53,333 As Borat would say you still have a "virgine"? 163 00:10:53,366 --> 00:10:57,266 Yes and it's working. 164 00:10:57,300 --> 00:10:58,600 Your vagina is still working? 165 00:10:58,633 --> 00:11:00,700 It works 100 percent. 166 00:11:00,733 --> 00:11:03,300 I use it - that's how I do my porn. 167 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,766 That's like sort of weird universe. 168 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,366 You and everybody else...I'm sure everybody in the 169 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,933 world is like. 170 00:11:12,966 --> 00:11:16,166 I'm sure some would call you a shemale then? 171 00:11:28,166 --> 00:11:31,433 I chose not to have bottom surgery, 172 00:11:31,466 --> 00:11:36,833 because I personally don't feel that that surgery 173 00:11:36,866 --> 00:11:38,866 is good enough for me. 174 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:42,133 I don't want to say that it's a bad surgery. 175 00:11:42,166 --> 00:11:45,833 My own choice is that I don't think it's a good surgery and I 176 00:11:45,866 --> 00:11:48,833 don't understand why somebody would want to have a penis that 177 00:11:48,866 --> 00:11:52,766 bad - a penis that doesn't operate like a genetic man's 178 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,866 penis opeerates. The amount of money you spend on it, 179 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,533 the amount of recovery time... 180 00:11:58,566 --> 00:12:00,600 He'd rather buy a new truck. 181 00:12:01,066 --> 00:12:03,800 For 50,000 dollars I can think of a lot 182 00:12:03,833 --> 00:12:05,966 of things I'd rather buy. 183 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,400 And he also takes testosterone injections that have 184 00:12:08,433 --> 00:12:11,833 masculinized him and he works out at the gym really hard to 185 00:12:11,866 --> 00:12:15,866 build those hunky hot muscles. 186 00:12:24,766 --> 00:12:26,933 Purposely made it not nude so you can hang it. 187 00:12:26,966 --> 00:12:29,333 Family friendly Family friendly. 188 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:34,633 I think I've been lucky to get to this point - not just in this 189 00:12:34,666 --> 00:12:36,900 transition but in my life. 190 00:12:36,933 --> 00:12:43,000 Being so free with myself, and not giving a shit... 191 00:12:43,033 --> 00:12:44,100 I forget... 192 00:12:44,133 --> 00:12:45,900 It's a place a lot of trans people try to get to, 193 00:12:45,933 --> 00:12:47,100 I think. 194 00:12:47,133 --> 00:12:49,466 Ya not even just trans - just people in general. 195 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:54,266 We are very, very excited and privileged to welcome Mr. Buck Angel. 196 00:12:57,833 --> 00:13:03,800 When puberty hit, and I hit puberty at a very late stage. 197 00:13:03,833 --> 00:13:07,966 I think most girls hit puberty at like 13-14. 198 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,566 But I went at like 16. 199 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,866 Which I think is pretty late for a girl to go through puberty. 200 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:19,133 I remember the first thing that happened when I got my period 201 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:21,400 and I was playing football on the street with a bunch of 202 00:13:21,433 --> 00:13:24,600 guys - at 16, as a girl, is a little weird - I know that. 203 00:13:24,633 --> 00:13:25,866 And I understand that. 204 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:28,133 Most 16 year old girls are hanging out with other girls - 205 00:13:28,166 --> 00:13:30,200 and whatever they do, I don't even know what 206 00:13:30,233 --> 00:13:34,266 16 year old girls do - cause I wasn't doing it. 207 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:38,000 I specifically remember catching the ball and then feeling 208 00:13:38,033 --> 00:13:42,266 wetness between my legs, and I am like what - I thought I peed 209 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:45,733 myself, I had no clue what was going on. 210 00:13:45,766 --> 00:13:49,766 And I go home - I was like I gotta go and I go home to go to 211 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,700 the bathroom---and there's blood in my underwear. 212 00:13:52,733 --> 00:13:54,033 And I'm like holy shit - did you know, 213 00:13:54,066 --> 00:13:57,033 I didn't even know what that was? 214 00:13:57,066 --> 00:14:01,566 My parents didn't even bring up the whole talk of 215 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,900 menstruation - or the whole talk of what you're going to go 216 00:14:04,933 --> 00:14:09,633 through, because I think they really raised me as a boy. 217 00:14:20,233 --> 00:14:24,000 Growing up, when we would play army - we would be the 218 00:14:24,033 --> 00:14:29,100 nurses and the guys would be the army guys and my brother, 219 00:14:29,133 --> 00:14:30,966 my sister though, cause it's weird for me to even say my 220 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,266 brother - because thinking back then, 221 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:33,833 that is my sister. 222 00:14:33,866 --> 00:14:36,633 My sister would be one of the army soldiers. 223 00:14:37,433 --> 00:14:38,500 That's just how it was. 224 00:14:38,533 --> 00:14:40,433 Because he was a tomboy. 225 00:14:40,466 --> 00:14:43,366 He was the one that was always with Bill - getting the 226 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,866 bikes ready, loading them up, doing all the things that a boy 227 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:51,866 would do with the father. 228 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:55,800 He was never with the woman, getting stuff 229 00:14:55,833 --> 00:14:57,833 - he was always with the guys. 230 00:14:58,733 --> 00:15:01,166 We were going to go to church one time, 231 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:08,733 I recall, and she at that point, wanted to wear a cowboy outfit, 232 00:15:08,766 --> 00:15:11,666 this is a girl wearing a cowboy outfit, 233 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:14,600 including boots and I wouldn't allow it. 234 00:15:14,633 --> 00:15:17,600 The line was drawn, I wasn't going to take her unless she 235 00:15:17,633 --> 00:15:20,633 dressed like a girl - and she wasn't going to go unless she 236 00:15:20,666 --> 00:15:22,633 dressed like a boy. 237 00:15:23,166 --> 00:15:24,833 Very, very stubborn. 238 00:15:25,866 --> 00:15:27,900 Those situations were like, 239 00:15:27,933 --> 00:15:30,400 okay something's wrong with this picture 240 00:15:30,433 --> 00:15:32,533 and it became a big thing. 241 00:15:32,566 --> 00:15:37,533 This big thing in our family - I was only being kind of pushed 242 00:15:37,566 --> 00:15:39,366 back and forth, pushed back and forth, 243 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,466 and I think that's honestly why my dad , 244 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:44,966 or he feels like h fucked me up in that way - cause he would 245 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,133 want me to be a boy, but then he realized oh gosh, 246 00:15:47,166 --> 00:15:52,200 she's really a girl, we have to put the dress on her. 247 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:56,466 One time I remember he was over by the water fountain 248 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:59,333 and two boys road up and just started giving me, 249 00:15:59,366 --> 00:16:01,733 just hassling me and picking on me. 250 00:16:01,766 --> 00:16:06,300 My brother comes out of nowhere, I didn't even know he was around 251 00:16:06,333 --> 00:16:09,466 and just beats the crap out of the two boys - and doesn't just 252 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:13,900 beat the crap out of them, but takes their notebooks and pulls 253 00:16:13,933 --> 00:16:17,766 all their schoolwork out - and because we were at the water 254 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,100 fountain and it was all muddy and watery - shoves all their 255 00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:24,566 paper in there... And you ever pick on my sister again, 256 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,733 blah, blah blah - the boys are crying and I'm like and I am 257 00:16:27,766 --> 00:16:31,633 just standing back in awe of who is this? 258 00:16:31,666 --> 00:16:34,766 And this is my sister kicking these two boys ass - and they 259 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,500 deserved it, I mean they absolutely did, 260 00:16:36,533 --> 00:16:39,033 but I was like that's just somebody you 261 00:16:39,066 --> 00:16:40,933 don't wan to mess with. 262 00:16:40,966 --> 00:16:42,866 Like playing soccer, it was like get out of my way, 263 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:44,033 I am coming. 264 00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:46,066 She kick that ball right into you or wherever. 265 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:50,500 So there was a lot of anger issues in her, 266 00:16:50,533 --> 00:16:52,100 I'm sure. 267 00:16:52,133 --> 00:16:55,966 Back then, you don't know, what doctor do I call 268 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,700 - where do I take him, what I'd find out. 269 00:16:57,733 --> 00:17:00,733 You don't. 270 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,966 I think with my sisters, we always wanted to achieve this 271 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,800 approval with our dad - cause that's sort of the way he was, 272 00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:21,700 he was sort of like god of the family. 273 00:17:21,733 --> 00:17:24,066 You know we didn't say I love you - it was sort of like hey 274 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:28,633 meat head or hey asshole - that was the way we said I love you 275 00:17:28,666 --> 00:17:31,033 - it was a smack on the head or a bleh, 276 00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:33,933 that was a hug! 277 00:17:34,533 --> 00:17:36,266 And then when we got in trouble, 278 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:38,500 he did hit us - physically hit us, 279 00:17:38,533 --> 00:17:40,333 which I have mixed feelings about. 280 00:17:40,366 --> 00:17:44,833 He did cross the boundaries of sort of discipline and beating. 281 00:17:54,333 --> 00:17:58,066 I was never academic, like I just couldn't get school. 282 00:17:58,100 --> 00:18:00,433 I was flunking out. 283 00:18:00,466 --> 00:18:04,800 D's and F's - in every class, except physical education. 284 00:18:04,833 --> 00:18:09,266 I was really a gifted runner - and that was my passion and 285 00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:12,333 that was my thing, I was having people 286 00:18:12,366 --> 00:18:14,466 from all kinds of schools scouting me 287 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:16,933 - and as a girl that's a big deal. 288 00:18:17,466 --> 00:18:20,633 I got invited to this amazing invitational event called the 289 00:18:20,666 --> 00:18:24,733 Sunkist invitational, which is like a really high ranking, 290 00:18:24,766 --> 00:18:27,733 indoor running event. 291 00:18:27,766 --> 00:18:31,166 I kept telling him, get your grades up cause you know if 292 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,766 you don't you aren't gonna be able to go to Sunkist. 293 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,966 It's impossible for me to make my grades up 294 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,466 - it's just not going to happen. 295 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:39,433 Then you are not going to run the event. 296 00:18:39,466 --> 00:18:42,133 And I just remember being devastated and my coach 297 00:18:42,166 --> 00:18:45,666 coming over, and begging my dad, please, 298 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:48,300 please, we've worked so hard. 299 00:18:48,333 --> 00:18:50,233 That was a big thing, telling him, 300 00:18:50,266 --> 00:18:52,800 he couldn't run the Sunkist 301 00:18:52,833 --> 00:18:54,300 - cause that was a big race. 302 00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:56,433 Well that was what you did - you held things back from 303 00:18:56,466 --> 00:18:58,466 them if they weren't performing. 304 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,600 You know you just did as your parents would do to you 305 00:19:00,633 --> 00:19:03,266 - you follow their guidance. 306 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:06,233 My dad just said no. 307 00:19:06,266 --> 00:19:09,566 He said no, I don't care and I remember just like breaking down 308 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:14,700 and crying and being like how is it possible? 309 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Like it still makes me get really emotional 310 00:19:31,233 --> 00:19:34,500 cause I didn't get to run. 311 00:19:37,133 --> 00:19:40,500 And there was like a bottle of pills in the bathroom and then I 312 00:19:40,533 --> 00:19:43,033 just took them all. 313 00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:47,300 My mom found me in the bedroom and she freaked out and was like 314 00:19:47,333 --> 00:19:51,033 ah - and my dad was like just take him to the hospital 315 00:19:51,066 --> 00:19:52,333 What did he do? 316 00:19:52,366 --> 00:19:58,533 And then they had to pump my stomach - and then that 317 00:19:58,566 --> 00:20:01,566 night they had to put me in the psych ward. 318 00:20:08,866 --> 00:20:11,800 So my mom would come and visit me - my dad wouldn't. 319 00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:22,900 ♪♪ 320 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,066 I don't have distribution in the states, 321 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,966 I have distribution in Europe, which is doing extremely well, 322 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,166 that's where I am cashing in, is Europe. 323 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,366 I am doing so amazing in Europe. 324 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,066 I pulled out of the market in the states cause they are 325 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:49,866 horrible for me here - it's not even worth my time for me to 326 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:52,766 replicate my movies - it's so out of control. 327 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,433 They just - no one. 328 00:20:54,466 --> 00:20:56,366 So right now, I am in New York doing business, 329 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,633 and I am talking to a couple companies to take 330 00:20:58,666 --> 00:21:00,966 me on to distribute. 331 00:21:01,766 --> 00:21:02,966 How we doing? 332 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,966 It's really great to meet you. 333 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,133 Great to meet you. 334 00:21:05,166 --> 00:21:06,400 Awesome. 335 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:09,666 I really appreciate you seeing me you know it's like a lot of 336 00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:12,433 people in this business want to talk to me. 337 00:21:12,466 --> 00:21:13,433 They do and they ... 338 00:21:13,466 --> 00:21:14,866 I'm controversial. 339 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,700 I'm very controversial. 340 00:21:17,733 --> 00:21:19,633 I mean through this computer, 341 00:21:19,666 --> 00:21:23,966 I receive the whole day long 342 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,266 "ever think about the gay man desires?" 343 00:21:27,666 --> 00:21:29,333 Weird requests. 344 00:21:29,366 --> 00:21:33,733 But there's never ever - this request came to this company 345 00:21:33,766 --> 00:21:38,000 that someone would say I want a masculine man 346 00:21:38,033 --> 00:21:41,300 - a butch man with a vagina. 347 00:21:41,966 --> 00:21:43,333 I never have that. 348 00:21:43,366 --> 00:21:46,200 Because it's your company - because I think that 349 00:21:46,233 --> 00:21:48,833 people don't know that I exist. 350 00:21:48,866 --> 00:21:51,666 Now people know that I exist 351 00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:54,466 - you see with fetishes or whatever you wanna call it 352 00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,833 people want to call it - once people are introduced to 353 00:21:56,866 --> 00:21:59,133 something different, they say - oooh, 354 00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:01,666 I never really thought of that, maybe I could 355 00:22:01,700 --> 00:22:03,300 be attracted to that. 356 00:22:03,333 --> 00:22:05,000 Who would be sexually attracted to you? 357 00:22:05,033 --> 00:22:09,933 Gay men, gay men - it's amazing, I think so too. 358 00:22:09,966 --> 00:22:11,900 Really, when I started doing the work, 359 00:22:11,933 --> 00:22:14,200 I didn't know who my client base or my customer 360 00:22:14,233 --> 00:22:15,633 base was going to be. 361 00:22:15,666 --> 00:22:19,266 It ended up being mostly gay men - I found something that I 362 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:22,266 felt was important to show to the world cause I like sex and I 363 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:26,900 like porn and what I do is not freaky-it's totally normal. 364 00:22:26,933 --> 00:22:29,166 Well you wouldn't convince people that it's 365 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,166 totally normal, because people don't want it... 366 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,533 But I am. 367 00:22:32,566 --> 00:22:36,266 I think you will convince a lot of people who are 368 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:37,666 in your situation. 369 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:39,433 I think you are a role model for them. 370 00:22:39,466 --> 00:22:42,900 And you will convince them that you are not a freak and that 371 00:22:42,933 --> 00:22:45,900 they are not freaks, but I don't think you will convince the 372 00:22:45,933 --> 00:22:51,133 world, cause the world is , can hardly except that gays and 373 00:22:51,166 --> 00:22:53,300 lesbians are not freaks. 374 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:12,800 Okay let's go. 375 00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:22,900 ♪♪ 376 00:23:29,833 --> 00:23:33,866 [trainer speaking] I want every movement that you do to have purpose. 377 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:37,700 I want every movement that you do in my workout to have meaning. 378 00:23:37,733 --> 00:23:39,700 You're not just rolling through it. 379 00:23:39,733 --> 00:23:47,733 Three, two, hold it up. Beautiful. Breathe. 380 00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:51,000 We met on the Internet, and I can certainly say that I 381 00:23:51,033 --> 00:23:53,533 fell in love with him before we ever met in person. 382 00:23:53,566 --> 00:23:57,300 And we actually discussed the possibility of marriage that if 383 00:23:57,333 --> 00:24:00,666 things were as good in person as they were at this great 384 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,933 distance, where he was in California and I was in 385 00:24:02,966 --> 00:24:07,566 New Orleans, and if the feeling remained once we touched and saw 386 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,166 each other - then we would marry and spend our lives together. 387 00:24:13,733 --> 00:24:16,866 After a breakup - I said, I am never going to find 388 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:18,633 anybody that's right for me. 389 00:24:18,666 --> 00:24:22,400 A friend said, well make a wish list - write everything down 390 00:24:22,433 --> 00:24:24,500 that you can think of that you would want in a partner. 391 00:24:26,666 --> 00:24:28,533 Five pages later, I had the impossible dream of 392 00:24:28,566 --> 00:24:29,833 my dream partner. 393 00:24:29,866 --> 00:24:31,633 And I asked for some very unusual things, 394 00:24:31,666 --> 00:24:32,966 you must understand. 395 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,300 Somebody who has their own identity, 396 00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:36,133 somebody who is into fitness and health. 397 00:24:36,166 --> 00:24:38,866 Born female but likes to be called he and him. 398 00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:41,000 Somebody who didn't drink and do drugs. 399 00:24:41,033 --> 00:24:44,333 Has hygiene habits, um with teeth brushing 400 00:24:44,366 --> 00:24:45,466 and nail trimming. 401 00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:49,600 Who likes using sex toys - the biggest to the smallest. 402 00:24:49,633 --> 00:24:53,966 I mean I had a lot of stuff on that list - and it's him. 403 00:24:55,533 --> 00:24:57,466 When I tell buck he is the man of my dreams 404 00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:59,466 - he knows that I mean it. 405 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,833 [indistinct conversation, dogs barking] 406 00:25:10,866 --> 00:25:12,233 Stop it! 407 00:25:12,266 --> 00:25:15,766 You wait. You just wait! 408 00:25:22,466 --> 00:25:26,666 Our life together is extremely wonderful 409 00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:28,533 - more than wonderful. It's like a dream. 410 00:25:38,166 --> 00:25:44,766 Sit, sit, good girl. Good girl. 411 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,733 Elayne and I were living in New Orleans - I loved living in 412 00:25:47,766 --> 00:25:49,433 New Orleans. It was a really great city, 413 00:25:49,466 --> 00:25:52,633 but a lot of things were happening with Bush in office. 414 00:25:53,933 --> 00:25:55,333 And just the whole political climate was very 415 00:25:55,366 --> 00:25:56,566 uncomfortable for us. 416 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,900 We really weren't happy with the direction of the country, 417 00:25:58,933 --> 00:26:01,500 and they were starting to crack down on the adult entertainment 418 00:26:01,533 --> 00:26:03,866 industry, in a way that made us really uncomfortable. 419 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,133 I had this internal imperative, I can't really describe where 420 00:26:10,166 --> 00:26:13,600 it may have come from - but something in my gut was 421 00:26:13,633 --> 00:26:17,133 screaming, move out of the US now - we put the condo up for 422 00:26:17,166 --> 00:26:19,800 sale and we were preparing to have a yard sale 423 00:26:19,833 --> 00:26:22,466 and then that was the day we ended up 424 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:23,866 evacuating for hurricane Katrina, 425 00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,133 we bought our home about two weeks before the storm came. 426 00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:29,266 We were planning to move anyway and of course the New Orleans we 427 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:31,333 ended up leaving isn't the one we had lived in. 428 00:26:31,366 --> 00:26:32,533 Never have we looked back. 429 00:26:32,566 --> 00:26:33,766 We can't. 430 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,433 it was just too smooth and weird. 431 00:26:35,466 --> 00:26:37,733 It was just supposed to be. 432 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,900 Just everything about it has been brilliant. 433 00:26:43,933 --> 00:26:46,633 And then of course, I got to write my book which I probably 434 00:26:46,666 --> 00:26:48,533 wouldn't have been able to complete. 435 00:26:48,566 --> 00:26:50,933 I had started it but getting it done and 436 00:26:50,966 --> 00:26:52,366 published probably would not have 437 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,700 happened if I had stayed in new Orleans. 438 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,533 I got the first tongue piercing, that was known to be a permanent 439 00:27:05,566 --> 00:27:08,400 tongue piercing worn in the united states and I got the 440 00:27:08,433 --> 00:27:12,300 first multiple tongue piercing and I actually wear five of 441 00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:15,133 them - and they are in there right now. 442 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,366 And I have nipple piercings, and I have pierced navel and I have 443 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,233 9 fancy genital piercings including my actual clitoris, 444 00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:24,866 which is quite rare. 445 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,533 I have about 40 piercings personally. 446 00:27:27,566 --> 00:27:29,333 But far more impressive is the fact that I have pierced about 447 00:27:29,366 --> 00:27:32,100 40,000 other people in my career since the 1980s. 448 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:40,566 Okay is that about as flat as your nipples get, 449 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,800 or do they get even flatter. 450 00:27:41,833 --> 00:27:44,733 I feel like they can get a little flatter, 451 00:27:44,766 --> 00:27:47,300 but that's about it. 452 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:50,966 I'll tell you that some people vary in what it's like to 453 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,433 get their nipple pierced. 454 00:27:52,466 --> 00:27:54,033 Some people actually enjoy it, and there is no extra 455 00:27:54,066 --> 00:27:55,766 charge if you do. 456 00:27:58,433 --> 00:28:01,200 And some people not so much, but they pretty much agree that it's 457 00:28:01,233 --> 00:28:03,166 tolerable because it's so brief. 458 00:28:03,633 --> 00:28:06,700 So, give me a nice little deep breath in... 459 00:28:06,733 --> 00:28:08,966 And then exhale. [woman exhales] 460 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:15,466 You're pierced. It's done. 461 00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:16,733 If I were going to charge anybody extra, 462 00:28:16,766 --> 00:28:18,733 it might be you. 463 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,166 Alright your jewelry is in - and that's all there is to it. 464 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:35,800 ♪♪ 465 00:28:40,166 --> 00:28:42,400 We are in Vegas for the AEE which is the 466 00:28:42,433 --> 00:28:48,066 Adult Entertainment Expo - and we are here to hopefully to get 467 00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,033 some buyers who want to want to buy my videos for their 468 00:28:51,066 --> 00:28:55,533 stores and see my fans. 469 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,766 People think it's just all fun and games, 470 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,033 like we get to fuck all the time, 471 00:29:02,066 --> 00:29:03,866 and we get to go to these cool conventions and be around porn 472 00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:07,433 stars, and we work our asses off. 473 00:29:07,466 --> 00:29:10,000 It's non stop smiley, smiley - hi, hi, 474 00:29:10,033 --> 00:29:12,966 buy my videos, what do you need from me? 475 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,766 Constantly, go, go, go, go. 476 00:29:20,166 --> 00:29:22,900 Would be nice - would be nice if I made some sales. 477 00:29:22,933 --> 00:29:25,033 That's for sure. 478 00:29:26,233 --> 00:29:28,700 Honey can you grab the other side? 479 00:29:31,566 --> 00:29:33,400 Can you go back and see? 480 00:29:33,433 --> 00:29:35,700 A big part of what I've done is just put my support 481 00:29:35,733 --> 00:29:40,600 behind it, both emotionally and as a partner and financially in every way to 482 00:29:40,633 --> 00:29:42,766 say this is a fantastic thing to be doing. 483 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,666 And it really is important work I think in many ways. 484 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,566 He welcomes my input and I get to put my finger in it 485 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,366 everywhere as it...[laughter]. 486 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,833 I love to watch him have sex with other people. 487 00:29:53,866 --> 00:29:55,100 It's his job. 488 00:29:55,133 --> 00:29:57,233 The boundaries are very clear, it's not an interpersonal 489 00:29:57,266 --> 00:29:59,566 thing - although he can get friendly with other talent. 490 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,366 It's not a date. 491 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,333 And I pierce genitals on a regular basis and he knows that 492 00:30:04,366 --> 00:30:07,666 I am not flirting or purposely stimulating someone. 493 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:09,133 It's my job. 494 00:30:09,166 --> 00:30:11,133 So we are very comfortable with those boundaries 495 00:30:11,166 --> 00:30:12,900 and those roles. 496 00:30:14,966 --> 00:30:16,100 We come first. 497 00:30:16,133 --> 00:30:17,533 Bottom line is - we come first. 498 00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:19,666 If my porn interfered with my relationship with her, 499 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:21,566 I would stop today. 500 00:30:27,833 --> 00:30:29,266 Okay how's it going? 501 00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:30,866 Good to see you. 502 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:33,833 This is Elayne my wife. 503 00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:38,533 We pass as a straight couple. 504 00:30:38,566 --> 00:30:41,100 Maybe we will go somewhere where it's clothing optional, 505 00:30:41,133 --> 00:30:44,033 so we will get naked and run around and people will be like 506 00:30:44,066 --> 00:30:47,866 why is she so happy, he's got the smallest dick in the world. 507 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,200 Like sometimes they just think I have a small dick. 508 00:30:51,233 --> 00:30:54,600 They don't even realize that it's actually a pussy. 509 00:30:57,233 --> 00:30:59,366 It takes a lot of educating cause people look at 510 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,200 him and they don't immediately know what he is. 511 00:31:01,233 --> 00:31:02,700 A hermaphrodite? 512 00:31:02,733 --> 00:31:04,033 A hermaphrodite is someone who has characteristics 513 00:31:04,066 --> 00:31:07,033 of both genders at birth, but he was female at birth, 514 00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:10,000 and through taking testosterone and working out and having 515 00:31:10,033 --> 00:31:12,966 surgery to remove his breasts, he's a man. 516 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,633 So he's legally... That's not a small cock. 517 00:31:14,666 --> 00:31:16,300 It's a huge clit. 518 00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:18,666 Sometimes I will have to go over it time and time again 519 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:20,766 because he's incredibly masculine. 520 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:28,366 It's boobs and it's upper bodies and if you want to talk 521 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,400 about gender, it's the penis that we are all obsessed with so 522 00:31:31,433 --> 00:31:34,600 you have this masculine body with a vagina that kind of blows 523 00:31:34,633 --> 00:31:37,566 everybody's minds, because it's not supposed to be that way. 524 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,366 It's the parts of the body that don't automatically sexualize. 525 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,933 He's presenting himself as a sexual object, 526 00:31:43,966 --> 00:31:48,266 and wasn't even born this way, so when all of that comes 527 00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:51,333 together, it's just an incredible mix of confusion 528 00:31:51,366 --> 00:31:53,600 for a lot people. 529 00:31:53,633 --> 00:31:55,600 You have to be passionate about your work and you have to have a 530 00:31:55,633 --> 00:31:57,566 very strong sense of self. 531 00:31:58,766 --> 00:32:02,833 And it sort of makes me in awe of him sometimes that he 532 00:32:02,866 --> 00:32:08,066 can just continue to be out there and be so public and do so 533 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,066 many public events. 534 00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:13,400 It's like there's no stopping him or something. 535 00:32:19,666 --> 00:32:23,200 I have a lot more fans than I kind of thought I did 536 00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:25,066 - especially women. 537 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,300 In the business, I think I am a lot more respected 538 00:32:27,333 --> 00:32:29,200 than I thought I was. 539 00:32:29,233 --> 00:32:30,700 What are you up to today? 540 00:32:30,733 --> 00:32:33,733 Just running around, all like crazy... 541 00:32:33,766 --> 00:32:37,466 It makes me feel like all the hard work I have really been 542 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,966 doing is paying off, finally. 543 00:32:47,766 --> 00:32:50,233 A lot of these tattoos were before my change. 544 00:32:50,266 --> 00:32:52,400 My arms were very, very skinny. 545 00:32:52,433 --> 00:32:56,033 It's really interesting because this tattoo here is from me and 546 00:32:56,066 --> 00:32:59,233 my best friend at the time - it says best friends in Japanese. 547 00:32:59,266 --> 00:33:01,300 Because of the growth of my arms, 548 00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:03,300 it literally stretched like three times the size of the 549 00:33:03,333 --> 00:33:04,866 original tattoo. 550 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:07,066 I have a tattoo of pervert on my back. 551 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:10,333 Some people think it says perfect, 552 00:33:10,366 --> 00:33:13,033 which is quite embarrassing. 553 00:33:13,066 --> 00:33:15,000 And then Irish boy, for when I used to be a boy 554 00:33:15,033 --> 00:33:17,133 and now I am a man. 555 00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:20,333 Let's see. 556 00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:23,466 I just got a new tattoo here. 557 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,633 And this is the Buck Angel tattoo 558 00:33:27,666 --> 00:33:31,800 It's a buck's head, with angel wings and a crown 559 00:33:31,833 --> 00:33:34,166 cause I will be the king. 560 00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:38,966 So that's that. 561 00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:51,166 ♪♪ 562 00:34:15,733 --> 00:34:17,900 I became a model because somebody saw me who was a 563 00:34:17,933 --> 00:34:22,633 photographer and I let them take photos of me and somehow those 564 00:34:22,666 --> 00:34:26,000 photos got into a modeling agency. 565 00:34:26,033 --> 00:34:28,600 One of those stories, where I was discovered on the street and 566 00:34:28,633 --> 00:34:30,600 brought into the agency and became a model - just a totally 567 00:34:30,633 --> 00:34:32,766 crazy story like that. 568 00:34:37,833 --> 00:34:41,433 People comment on it, why would he became such an ugly 569 00:34:41,466 --> 00:34:44,200 man when he was such a beautiful woman? 570 00:34:45,233 --> 00:34:47,300 Why wouldn't he just want to be a beautiful woman 571 00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:49,500 and be a super model? 572 00:34:49,533 --> 00:34:52,400 Because it's not what's inside my body. 573 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,400 But modeling was just a fluke. 574 00:34:55,433 --> 00:34:58,366 I was making money doing it and wow lots of drugs and 575 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,900 alcohol-ALRIGHT, where do I sign? 576 00:35:04,233 --> 00:35:06,500 I think she was living a lifestyle we weren't even really 577 00:35:06,533 --> 00:35:08,000 truly aware of. 578 00:35:08,033 --> 00:35:09,400 She would come around for holidays or whatever, 579 00:35:09,433 --> 00:35:11,433 maybe pop in once in a while. 580 00:35:13,766 --> 00:35:16,266 I was missing all my modeling jobs because I was 581 00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:19,233 doing coke and drinking, and out of my mind. 582 00:35:22,733 --> 00:35:24,300 They just gave up on me. 583 00:35:28,466 --> 00:35:30,766 That's when everything really started coming 584 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,200 to head with him. 585 00:35:32,233 --> 00:35:34,866 I thought I am going to be going to a cemetery one day if things 586 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:36,566 don't get changed around. 587 00:35:39,466 --> 00:35:41,600 I would just take a razor blade and cut, 588 00:35:41,633 --> 00:35:43,400 cut, cut, cut, cut. 589 00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:45,500 Like just cut. 590 00:35:45,533 --> 00:35:48,900 I would do it when I was sober or between getting high. 591 00:35:51,366 --> 00:35:54,633 I would cut my skin down like this. 592 00:35:54,666 --> 00:35:59,233 It was totally purely out of hatred for my physical self. 593 00:35:59,266 --> 00:36:02,933 When you cut the balloon it's sort of like shoo 594 00:36:02,966 --> 00:36:04,266 That's what it felt like for me. 595 00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:05,333 It was like a release. 596 00:36:05,366 --> 00:36:07,433 It would literally release tension from my body. 597 00:36:07,466 --> 00:36:10,466 ♪♪ 598 00:36:29,666 --> 00:36:32,766 She kind of even pulls away from the family and it's 599 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,700 almost like a relief because deal with your issues. 600 00:36:37,733 --> 00:36:38,700 We didn't know. 601 00:36:38,733 --> 00:36:40,833 We didn't know what to do. 602 00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:44,133 I would get calls, Mom I need some money for rent. I'm low and 603 00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:48,500 all this, and I knew in my mind, it wasn't really going there, 604 00:36:48,533 --> 00:36:49,866 or I have to pay a phone bill. 605 00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:52,066 Uh I need 100 dollars for my phone bill. 606 00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:53,033 I didn't need 100 dollars for my phone bill. 607 00:36:53,066 --> 00:36:55,700 I needed 100 dollars to buy crack. 608 00:36:56,500 --> 00:37:04,500 ♪♪ 609 00:37:11,866 --> 00:37:14,166 One time my parents went away for two weeks and I knew 610 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,100 they went away . 611 00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:17,466 I didn't even live at their house. 612 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:19,233 And I remember calling all my friends, 613 00:37:19,266 --> 00:37:21,866 my parents are out of town - come over. 614 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:23,833 We broke into the house and had a party. 615 00:37:23,866 --> 00:37:26,400 Well guess what, my parents came home early. 616 00:37:26,433 --> 00:37:31,300 WOAH, my parents came home early and then I remember everyone 617 00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:33,700 saying, oh my god - Buck's parents 618 00:37:33,733 --> 00:37:34,733 are home, jump! 619 00:37:34,766 --> 00:37:36,700 Everybody jumped over the railing and like ran 620 00:37:36,733 --> 00:37:39,766 but my dad snatched me. 621 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,366 He beat the crap out of me, and said 622 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,366 "I never want to see you again. 623 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,400 You are lucky I don't call the police." 624 00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:49,433 I was a bad person, you know, I was out on the streets. 625 00:37:49,466 --> 00:37:52,600 I was prostituting as a little boy. 626 00:37:55,566 --> 00:37:59,033 So then one day I got a call and he was in the halfway 627 00:37:59,066 --> 00:38:01,600 house and it was awful. 628 00:38:01,633 --> 00:38:06,366 That's when I knew you better start thinking and accepting 629 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,000 that way or trying to pushing back to where... 630 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,566 And I swear it wasn't two weeks later after this whole thing was 631 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,133 over, back out there with that same group of people 632 00:38:21,166 --> 00:38:23,466 and into it again. 633 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:28,000 So it was like, what do we do now? 634 00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:31,000 But you just keep going? 635 00:38:43,166 --> 00:38:46,200 Then I don't know how I ended up in the gutter, 636 00:38:46,233 --> 00:38:47,766 literally physically in the gutter, 637 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,800 and the police driving by telling me that either I get out 638 00:38:50,833 --> 00:38:54,266 of the street right now or they are going to arrest me. 639 00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:57,166 I remember getting on the phone to my ex girlfriend at the time, 640 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,000 and sayingI need help I am going to kill myself. 641 00:39:01,033 --> 00:39:02,600 And she's like the only way I am going to help you 642 00:39:02,633 --> 00:39:04,266 is if you get sober. 643 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,266 And I had stayed sober from that moment on. 644 00:39:08,633 --> 00:39:16,633 ♪♪ 645 00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:29,266 I think it looks good open. 646 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:32,300 It looks you cause you usually have some skin showing. 647 00:39:32,333 --> 00:39:34,566 Honey, it's the porn awards. 648 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,266 I am up for what? 649 00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:38,700 Transsexual performer of the year and two different 650 00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:42,033 scenes for most outrageous sex scene. 651 00:39:44,366 --> 00:39:46,866 Ok does my ass look big? 652 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:51,033 I think it would really be a huge thing if I win that award. 653 00:39:51,066 --> 00:39:53,300 It's just gonna blow everybody away, 654 00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:56,533 not just the transsexuals, but I think the whole industry 655 00:39:56,566 --> 00:40:00,266 together will be pretty amazed by that. 656 00:40:02,366 --> 00:40:10,366 ♪♪ [cheering] 657 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:26,666 [indistinct woman speaker on microphone] 658 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,466 [cheering] 659 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:31,966 I fucking won transsexual performer of the year. 660 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,566 Holy shit dude, I saw my picture and I couldn't believe it. 661 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,300 Like I almost started to cry. 662 00:40:38,333 --> 00:40:40,866 I was screaming for myself. 663 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,700 I feel like a star. 664 00:40:42,733 --> 00:40:46,500 You are a star. You busted in. 665 00:40:47,366 --> 00:40:50,866 Dude I won the fucking award, dude. 666 00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:55,033 He's again surpassed everyone's expectations. 667 00:40:55,466 --> 00:40:57,700 I am so proud, I am so proud of you. 668 00:40:58,733 --> 00:41:02,733 He has paved the way for an entire new 669 00:41:02,766 --> 00:41:07,433 generation of trans masculine gender queer, gender variant, 670 00:41:07,466 --> 00:41:11,000 trans male sex performers.. 671 00:41:30,766 --> 00:41:34,333 My mission I think is really honestly it sounds so 672 00:41:34,366 --> 00:41:37,833 cheesy, but to change the world. 673 00:41:37,866 --> 00:41:40,066 It was not my mission in the beginning, 674 00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:43,966 it was to make porn and to change the porn business. 675 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:48,633 I do enjoy making porn, but I also feel like I did it, 676 00:41:48,666 --> 00:41:51,033 and I need to do something else now and I need to reach a larger 677 00:41:51,066 --> 00:41:53,633 audience of people. 678 00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:58,333 People often talk about how pornography is like the defacto 679 00:41:58,366 --> 00:42:02,733 sex ad. What are ways that it can educate people in a good way 680 00:42:02,766 --> 00:42:05,233 rather than just in the negative way that people generally mean 681 00:42:05,266 --> 00:42:06,700 when they talk about that? 682 00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:08,966 My work is really I think helping people to feel 683 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,266 comfortable in their body. 684 00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:12,800 I didn't really purposely do that in the beginning. 685 00:42:12,833 --> 00:42:16,733 I just wanted to make hot sex, but I think because it was so 686 00:42:16,766 --> 00:42:19,700 new, and it was so out there, and no one had ever done it 687 00:42:19,733 --> 00:42:23,066 before, it kind of became sex ed. 688 00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,766 That's been really the most amazing 689 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,966 and strong part of doing my work. 690 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,900 I mean that's a great point because not 691 00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:31,700 all guys want to see the stereotypical porn star, 692 00:42:31,733 --> 00:42:33,433 the idea of what a porn star is. 693 00:42:33,466 --> 00:42:34,766 All of us can relate. 694 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,566 It's totally weird being here. 695 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,300 Because I didn't even graduate high school. 696 00:42:47,833 --> 00:42:51,866 I am really excited that Buck is moving more toward 697 00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,566 education and public speaking because he has such an important 698 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,400 message and there's so many people who need to 699 00:42:56,433 --> 00:42:58,366 hear what he has to say. 700 00:42:59,566 --> 00:43:02,133 The one thing that I think that takes away from who 701 00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:06,100 he is I think the fact that he got involved in the porn 702 00:43:06,133 --> 00:43:08,100 industry, that I think is just a bummer. 703 00:43:08,133 --> 00:43:10,633 It hasn't' been easy for me to get booked to speak. 704 00:43:10,666 --> 00:43:13,166 It hasn't been easy for people to take me serious as someone 705 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,233 who has something important to say because 706 00:43:16,266 --> 00:43:17,733 of being a porn star. 707 00:43:17,766 --> 00:43:20,166 I know it's easier for me to deal with the transgender 708 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,966 side than it is to deal with the porn side, 709 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,333 so I almost think it's like you hit people once being 710 00:43:27,366 --> 00:43:29,866 transgender, now you just smacked them again, 711 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:31,400 cause you're in porn. 712 00:43:31,433 --> 00:43:33,600 There's a limit of how big a spotlight a porn star 713 00:43:33,633 --> 00:43:38,533 can attract cause porn is stigmatized and even though that 714 00:43:38,566 --> 00:43:40,533 everybody knows that porn is this big multi-billionaire 715 00:43:40,566 --> 00:43:43,033 dollar industry, and that everybody is watching porn, 716 00:43:43,066 --> 00:43:46,400 everybody is in polite denial about it, 717 00:43:46,433 --> 00:43:49,533 wants to pretend that porn isn't important doesn't really have 718 00:43:49,566 --> 00:43:52,266 the cultural influence or impact that it has, 719 00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:55,133 and so there's this desire when we are horny to really 720 00:43:55,166 --> 00:43:57,866 appreciate the work that porn stars do, 721 00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:00,766 and when we aren't horny to really demograte porn stars. 722 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,600 Oh yeah, that's a good beanie actually. 723 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,133 - Oh good. - I don't want to give a message that I 724 00:44:10,166 --> 00:44:12,000 feel bad about doing porn. 725 00:44:12,033 --> 00:44:13,000 Because I don't. 726 00:44:13,033 --> 00:44:15,433 I do not feel bad about it and I never will. 727 00:44:15,466 --> 00:44:18,500 It's a positive thing for me and it's a positive thing for many 728 00:44:18,533 --> 00:44:20,666 other people who have had body issues. 729 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:25,833 But at the same time I would like to move into other avenues 730 00:44:25,866 --> 00:44:27,733 and it's just been... 731 00:44:27,766 --> 00:44:28,900 I am going to break through. 732 00:44:28,933 --> 00:44:30,433 I will. 733 00:44:30,466 --> 00:44:32,900 I promise you I will break through. 734 00:44:35,466 --> 00:44:40,666 [phone ringing] 735 00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:42,800 I am okay. How are you doing? 736 00:44:42,833 --> 00:44:44,933 Ya, so he said that's fine, totally cool, 737 00:44:44,966 --> 00:44:48,366 so I'll come back rest, and do the show, 738 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,733 and do the show, and that's it. 739 00:44:51,266 --> 00:44:53,366 Hello listeners and welcome back to Here with Josh 740 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,600 and Sarah. 741 00:44:54,633 --> 00:44:56,766 We are so thrilled to have here with us today in the studio, 742 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,366 the self-proclaimed man with a pussy, 743 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,366 - I love that title by the way. - It's trademarked. 744 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,766 I might actually put it on a t-shirt if you don't mind. 745 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,100 And he's also the AEE Transsexual performer 746 00:45:07,133 --> 00:45:10,033 of the year for 2007. 747 00:45:10,066 --> 00:45:12,033 Is there some sort of mourning process that your 748 00:45:12,066 --> 00:45:14,733 parents and your family had to go through to let go of this 749 00:45:14,766 --> 00:45:17,466 girl that they knew and bring this boy in. 750 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:20,300 It's almost a re-birth if you will. 751 00:45:20,333 --> 00:45:22,366 When I came out to them as a gay woman, 752 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,766 they were like - duh. 753 00:45:25,466 --> 00:45:27,900 You know what I mean, I think everybody has dealt with that 754 00:45:27,933 --> 00:45:29,400 with the coming out process. 755 00:45:29,433 --> 00:45:32,266 Parents know, they aren't stupid. 756 00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:34,533 But they weren't happy for me. 757 00:45:34,566 --> 00:45:37,200 They weren't happy dealing with me as a gay woman. 758 00:45:37,233 --> 00:45:38,966 It was very uncomfortable for them. 759 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,266 They didn't like for me to go to family functions. 760 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:43,533 I was very dikey. 761 00:45:43,566 --> 00:45:44,466 They were not in to that. 762 00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,233 And then I think they were sort of like, 763 00:45:46,266 --> 00:45:48,000 this is not okay. 764 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,766 This is a picture of a man named Buck 765 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,600 - Buck's face is very rugged. 766 00:45:54,633 --> 00:45:57,800 He's got a shaved head and he's got a goatee... 767 00:45:57,833 --> 00:46:04,266 Buck is a man's man, but Buck also has a vagina. 768 00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:07,800 Everybody in the studio audience is looking at full frontal Buck 769 00:46:07,833 --> 00:46:09,633 from the waist down. 770 00:46:09,666 --> 00:46:11,833 Really, they are showing you naked? 771 00:46:11,866 --> 00:46:14,700 We just looked at photos of you nude - and you really are, 772 00:46:14,733 --> 00:46:17,500 I mean I am looking at you now you are a masculine, 773 00:46:17,533 --> 00:46:22,633 a man, manly, like thick man neck, 774 00:46:22,666 --> 00:46:24,466 thick facial hair. 775 00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:26,733 So you are a man with a vagina. 776 00:46:26,766 --> 00:46:29,300 Yes I was born female, but I had a sex change to a man, 777 00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:33,333 but I did not have bottom surgery. 778 00:46:33,366 --> 00:46:35,266 I like my vagina. 779 00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:36,133 You like your vagina? 780 00:46:36,166 --> 00:46:39,366 I love my vagina. Yes 781 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,366 -Do you love your vagina? -No! 782 00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:47,366 I was asked to come on the show cause she was going to do a 783 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,533 whole show about Buck Angel. 784 00:46:48,566 --> 00:46:50,066 And it wasn't? 785 00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,066 No it wasn't. 786 00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:54,133 So when I got there and I am going on stage, 787 00:46:54,166 --> 00:46:57,700 is when they decided to tell me, they didn't' tell me. 788 00:46:57,733 --> 00:47:00,566 Elayne looks up and it says Buck next for sexual oddities 789 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,333 and I'm like huh? 790 00:47:03,366 --> 00:47:05,100 And there was three people ahead of me already. 791 00:47:05,133 --> 00:47:07,566 I was the 4th person going on the show. 792 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,133 To be honest with you it came out okay. 793 00:47:10,166 --> 00:47:13,400 I think it did too, you're more upset. 794 00:47:13,433 --> 00:47:16,400 It's the subject of the show, 795 00:47:16,433 --> 00:47:20,200 and the subject of the show was sexual oddities or something, 796 00:47:20,233 --> 00:47:22,266 I am not a sexual oddity. 797 00:47:24,666 --> 00:47:25,800 You don't think so? 798 00:47:25,833 --> 00:47:28,066 No I don't think so but you are - if you look at 799 00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:32,666 masses, I mean oddity means that you're not with the norm. 800 00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:34,866 I don't fit into the norm, but that's the whole point. 801 00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:36,533 I am trying to change that. 802 00:47:36,566 --> 00:47:38,200 And there are a lot of people like me. 803 00:47:38,233 --> 00:47:40,166 I consider myself very normal. 804 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,033 And so it's okay for you to think that I don't fit in, 805 00:47:43,066 --> 00:47:46,733 but for me I do fit in, and I am a normal person, 806 00:47:46,766 --> 00:47:49,533 and so I don't want the world to go around thinking that people 807 00:47:49,566 --> 00:47:51,133 like us aren't normal. 808 00:47:51,166 --> 00:47:54,166 ♪♪ 809 00:47:59,266 --> 00:48:00,533 What is a woman, you ask? 810 00:48:00,566 --> 00:48:01,833 Simple answer: a vagina. 811 00:48:01,866 --> 00:48:03,500 If you are born with a vagina, you are a woman. 812 00:48:03,533 --> 00:48:04,900 End of story. 813 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,566 You are one mixed up individual, 814 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,900 you need help and bad. 815 00:48:10,766 --> 00:48:12,600 Killercrew23: You are one sick son of a bitch. 816 00:48:12,633 --> 00:48:15,500 Well I can't really be nasty to you because you are a girl. 817 00:48:15,533 --> 00:48:17,733 People like you should be put to death. 818 00:48:19,266 --> 00:48:21,000 I hope you die of AIDS, you freak of society. 819 00:48:21,033 --> 00:48:22,833 You are so arrogant and disgusting that you have to 820 00:48:22,866 --> 00:48:25,166 change your sex trying to play god, 821 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,333 I swear if I ever cross paths with you, 822 00:48:27,366 --> 00:48:30,533 I will have a gun and it's going in your face. 823 00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:34,400 You know, he has the appearance of it rolling off him, 824 00:48:34,433 --> 00:48:37,666 oh you know these crazy people, but it has 825 00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:40,100 to hurt on some level. 826 00:48:43,333 --> 00:48:44,966 I don't spend a lot of time worrying about it, 827 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,966 but every once in a while and especially when I read things 828 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,900 like this, I can't help but think about it and the fact that 829 00:48:49,933 --> 00:48:52,400 he is potentially in some sort of danger just by being a public 830 00:48:52,433 --> 00:48:54,800 figure who he is. 831 00:48:55,466 --> 00:48:57,166 Ya that smells good - that's a beaut. 832 00:49:09,566 --> 00:49:10,633 Uh it's funny . 833 00:49:10,666 --> 00:49:13,433 I just totally keep getting emails from these kids, 834 00:49:13,466 --> 00:49:15,900 from these young trans kids. 835 00:49:15,933 --> 00:49:21,033 A lot of times they ask me for certain monetary help, 836 00:49:21,066 --> 00:49:24,733 which I don't know, well I guess I do know, 837 00:49:24,766 --> 00:49:29,066 they think I am butt ass rich, and I can afford to get 838 00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:32,000 everybody their surgery, but honestly, 839 00:49:32,033 --> 00:49:35,933 even if I was, I wouldn't because I think part of the 840 00:49:35,966 --> 00:49:40,333 transformation is doing it on your own and sort of coming up 841 00:49:40,366 --> 00:49:42,166 with the money on your own - makes you independent 842 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,400 and it's like I did this all on my own, nobody's help, 843 00:49:44,433 --> 00:49:46,800 so like I didn't have to ask somebody. 844 00:49:46,833 --> 00:49:48,700 I worked two jobs, I did this I did that, 845 00:49:48,733 --> 00:49:51,600 and I think it's important for these guys to understand that 846 00:49:51,633 --> 00:49:54,433 maybe you can't have your chest surgery today but you can have 847 00:49:54,466 --> 00:49:58,833 it in two years, if you put 20 bucks a week away or whatever. 848 00:49:58,866 --> 00:50:00,466 I didn't get mine right away. 849 00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:03,466 It took me years before I got mine. 850 00:50:04,633 --> 00:50:06,166 Wow do I have a lot of stuff in here. 851 00:50:10,733 --> 00:50:12,233 I put it somewhere safe. 852 00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:15,466 Here it is. 853 00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:18,066 So how are you feeling today? 854 00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:19,200 A little bit nervous 855 00:50:19,233 --> 00:50:22,000 Understandable ya. 856 00:50:25,133 --> 00:50:26,700 It's that time. 857 00:50:30,333 --> 00:50:32,100 How are you doing? 858 00:50:32,133 --> 00:50:34,066 Giving you a little more medicine through the iv. 859 00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:35,466 Start to get nice and sleepy. 860 00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:38,200 Sometimes this might sting a little bit in the left arm just 861 00:50:38,233 --> 00:50:40,133 for a minute... 862 00:50:40,866 --> 00:50:44,166 When I told my dad at one time that I felt more like a guy 863 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,666 than a girl, he blamed himself. 864 00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:54,166 He said it's my fault. 865 00:50:58,166 --> 00:51:00,366 I said no it isn't your fault. 866 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,433 I feel like a man because I am a man. 867 00:51:02,466 --> 00:51:06,600 They didn't get it at the time. 868 00:51:13,433 --> 00:51:15,833 There you go, you with us? 869 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,433 Okay you doing alright there? 870 00:51:20,466 --> 00:51:24,500 Okay My chest surgery was my sex change. 871 00:51:24,533 --> 00:51:29,033 That was the whole turning point of my life when I did that. 872 00:51:29,066 --> 00:51:30,366 That was it. 873 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,900 It was like that's what I needed to do. 874 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:41,400 ♪♪ 875 00:51:51,166 --> 00:51:53,233 I was not in touch with my family for many, 876 00:51:53,266 --> 00:51:56,466 many years because of my situation. 877 00:51:56,500 --> 00:52:00,133 I think after about a year or two of my sobriety when I was 878 00:52:00,166 --> 00:52:03,466 changing, I had called them up and decided to tell them. 879 00:52:04,233 --> 00:52:06,066 They said, your voice sounds weird, 880 00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:07,700 what's wrong with you? 881 00:52:07,733 --> 00:52:10,800 I said okay, I need to tell you I started the hormone treatments 882 00:52:10,833 --> 00:52:13,933 and it was changing my voice, and my mother was like, 883 00:52:13,966 --> 00:52:16,800 you know what, if that's what's going to make you happy, 884 00:52:16,833 --> 00:52:21,200 I was like, is this my mother? 885 00:52:21,233 --> 00:52:27,100 So it took a lot. 886 00:52:27,133 --> 00:52:28,866 But I'm glad we did. 887 00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:31,900 Because now he's the happiest I've ever seen him. 888 00:52:31,933 --> 00:52:33,866 And we get along fine. 889 00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:35,900 No- I don't, you know... 890 00:52:35,933 --> 00:52:38,866 There's people that can probably never deal with it. 891 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:42,900 But I can now and I'm happy for it. 892 00:52:44,933 --> 00:52:50,400 The process continues by the way. For me... 893 00:52:50,433 --> 00:52:56,833 Patty was much much more acceptable than I was. 894 00:52:56,866 --> 00:52:58,733 I wrote Buck out of my life. 895 00:53:22,066 --> 00:53:24,433 As a man, it's tough to accept it. 896 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,700 Can we stop for a minute? 897 00:53:34,466 --> 00:53:42,500 ♪♪ 898 00:54:28,533 --> 00:54:35,500 [sirens] 899 00:54:35,533 --> 00:54:37,066 I got really sick one day. 900 00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:38,866 I had to be rushed to the emergency hospital. 901 00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:40,866 Thank god we have amazing health care. 902 00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:42,066 It's like 5 minutes away. 903 00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:43,666 Rush into the emergency room cause they can't figure out 904 00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:44,900 what's wrong with me. 905 00:54:44,933 --> 00:54:46,833 I am throwing up, I am sick, they bring a specialist in. 906 00:54:46,866 --> 00:54:48,566 They start poking around down here, 907 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,633 it's really sore...they say oh I think your appendix burst. 908 00:54:51,666 --> 00:54:54,000 So I have to go have exploratory surgery, 909 00:54:54,033 --> 00:54:58,633 they go in, they find out that my uterus is totally infected 910 00:54:58,666 --> 00:55:00,933 and my fallopian tube is infected because 911 00:55:00,966 --> 00:55:03,366 I haven't had a hysterectomy. 912 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,233 Many years of testosterone atrophied the inside of my 913 00:55:07,266 --> 00:55:10,366 vagina, my cervix and my uterus atrophied together. 914 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,333 So your uterus is like this and you know everything 915 00:55:13,366 --> 00:55:15,000 comes out this way. 916 00:55:15,033 --> 00:55:18,666 It wasn't letting it...basically my uterus became a petri dish 917 00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:20,166 and it started to become infected, 918 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,633 so he said it was time for me to have a hysterectomy. 919 00:55:24,566 --> 00:55:31,000 She doesn't understand why I am going to the gynecologist. 920 00:55:31,033 --> 00:55:37,200 It's always an issue when you go to the gynecologist cause people 921 00:55:37,233 --> 00:55:41,033 don't understand why a man is going to the gynecologist, 922 00:55:41,066 --> 00:55:44,966 but they are very good about having poker face here. 923 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,100 I've been asking for years about having a hysterectomy. 924 00:55:48,133 --> 00:55:50,600 They didn't say over the years of testosterone use, 925 00:55:50,633 --> 00:55:52,000 the walls could atrophy. 926 00:55:52,033 --> 00:55:53,700 They never told me that. 927 00:55:57,700 --> 00:55:59,866 I do have concerns about his health overall because I 928 00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:02,200 don't think they have a whole lot information about long term 929 00:56:02,233 --> 00:56:04,700 use of testosterone and what it does to the body, 930 00:56:04,733 --> 00:56:08,966 and I am aware that it is hard on certain organs like 931 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,533 the liver, heart, and potentially kidneys. 932 00:56:11,566 --> 00:56:13,900 It's a medical necessity as he sees it, 933 00:56:13,933 --> 00:56:15,166 and I accept that. 934 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,133 I mean he has told me flat out, if they told me that I had to 935 00:56:17,166 --> 00:56:20,666 stop taking testosterone or I die sooner, 936 00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:23,533 or something of that nature, he said I'm sorry I'd keep taking 937 00:56:23,566 --> 00:56:26,933 it and I said I know that about you and I accept that, 938 00:56:26,966 --> 00:56:30,100 it's more important to you than anything to maintain your 939 00:56:30,133 --> 00:56:32,333 masculinity, because if you didn't have that, 940 00:56:32,366 --> 00:56:36,533 you wouldn't be you anymore, and I accept that and I respect his 941 00:56:36,566 --> 00:56:39,933 decision and it concerns me because I want him to be 942 00:56:39,966 --> 00:56:44,200 healthy and to live a long healthy happy life with me. 943 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,700 Okay, so say your surgery is this week, 944 00:56:51,733 --> 00:56:56,400 uhm...well we really gotta wait... 945 00:57:02,433 --> 00:57:05,933 [speaking Spanish] 12:00 today? 946 00:57:05,966 --> 00:57:06,933 Okay. 947 00:57:06,966 --> 00:57:08,200 Gracias. 948 00:57:08,233 --> 00:57:09,366 Okay. 949 00:57:10,533 --> 00:57:11,633 And that's how it works. 950 00:57:11,666 --> 00:57:13,100 You can get a doctor's appointment. 951 00:57:13,133 --> 00:57:14,266 It's 10. 952 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,700 Got to love it. 953 00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:19,566 One day for the exams... 954 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,166 One day for [indistinct]. 955 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,100 One day to talk, etc. 956 00:57:24,133 --> 00:57:28,400 Next week I think we can make it without problems. 957 00:57:28,633 --> 00:57:30,933 The rest... 958 00:57:32,366 --> 00:57:33,366 [speaking Spanish] 959 00:57:51,733 --> 00:57:57,000 Okay I am going to touch. 960 00:57:59,433 --> 00:58:01,233 A little press. 961 00:58:01,266 --> 00:58:04,233 More press, more press, more press. 962 00:58:04,266 --> 00:58:06,766 It's really better than the last time. 963 00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:11,333 You are making .... 964 00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:14,166 Relax. 965 00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:23,166 And it's okay, I am going to make a cold... 966 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,933 Oh wow. 967 00:58:25,966 --> 00:58:27,600 This white are may be a lesion, pre-malignant. 968 00:58:34,166 --> 00:58:42,166 All this white lesion. And this is another cause to make surgery. 969 00:58:45,966 --> 00:58:48,600 My vagina hasn't always been high maintenance, 970 00:58:48,633 --> 00:58:52,666 now I have to put estrogen cream like every three days to keep it 971 00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:56,666 moist, and I saw it completely sort of rejuvenate. 972 00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:58,100 It was incredible, even the doctor saw it. 973 00:58:58,133 --> 00:58:59,700 He's like "wow, that's a new vagina." 974 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:09,800 ♪♪ 975 00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:20,200 Oh this is a great picture. 976 00:59:20,233 --> 00:59:23,633 Let's see, it's you and dad. 977 00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:27,266 Oh it says Bill pinched Pat 978 00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,100 That's what it says on the back. 979 00:59:29,133 --> 00:59:31,666 Bill pinched Pat, 1961. 980 00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:34,100 Oh, I was pregnant with you. 981 00:59:34,133 --> 00:59:37,200 That was at nanny's house. And it's a cool picture. 982 00:59:38,833 --> 00:59:46,066 ♪♪ 983 00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:49,233 Thanks Doc. Hi I'm Buck Angel, 984 00:59:49,266 --> 00:59:51,800 and for men like me, gynecological problems 985 00:59:51,833 --> 00:59:55,633 are still a reality. Early detection is critical, 986 00:59:55,666 --> 00:59:57,366 and having your plumbing checked regularly 987 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,533 is a simple thing to do. 988 00:59:59,566 --> 01:00:01,800 Be proud and be smart. 989 01:00:01,833 --> 01:00:03,433 You know when you shoot 990 01:00:03,466 --> 01:00:04,833 testosterone; it just puts weight on you. 991 01:00:04,866 --> 01:00:06,100 And sometimes it's not healthy weight, 992 01:00:06,133 --> 01:00:08,833 If you don't watch what you are eating and work out and make an 993 01:00:08,866 --> 01:00:11,200 effort, you are not going to get muscle mass. 994 01:00:11,233 --> 01:00:14,633 With my advocacy work, my education work, 995 01:00:14,666 --> 01:00:18,333 the internet was an amazing tool for me to figure out how can I 996 01:00:18,366 --> 01:00:19,900 reach a wider audience. 997 01:00:19,933 --> 01:00:22,466 For more information on my nutrition and body building, 998 01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:26,033 please take a look at BuckAngelbodybuilding.com 999 01:00:26,066 --> 01:00:28,700 I do four egg whites and one whole egg. 1000 01:00:28,733 --> 01:00:32,500 I just started wow I have such a tool here to educate. 1001 01:00:32,533 --> 01:00:36,333 I was isolated , didn't know who to reach out to. 1002 01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:39,366 I tried to commit suicide a couple times. 1003 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,166 I would cut my arms. 1004 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,666 I get emotional because I made it. 1005 01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:50,400 I made it and you can make it too. 1006 01:00:54,533 --> 01:01:01,033 My trans man project which is probably never ending. 1007 01:01:01,066 --> 01:01:02,900 So many guys interested in talking to me about their 1008 01:01:02,933 --> 01:01:08,533 change, and how their hormones have effected their sexuality 1009 01:01:08,566 --> 01:01:12,333 and just themselves and their body. 1010 01:01:12,366 --> 01:01:15,466 I never felt like I could say my vagina, 1011 01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:18,666 like that just felt like such a weird thing, 1012 01:01:18,700 --> 01:01:21,733 and also in the beginning too, I couldn't say my cock or my penis 1013 01:01:21,766 --> 01:01:25,766 cause that was just weird too, so I would just say my junk. 1014 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,666 Seeing a billboard and a dude in his underwear and 1015 01:01:28,700 --> 01:01:30,900 I'm like god I want his body. 1016 01:01:30,933 --> 01:01:34,133 This is very recent too, that I have kind of come to terms with 1017 01:01:34,166 --> 01:01:40,066 the fact that I want to, I know at least be sexual with men. 1018 01:01:41,533 --> 01:01:42,866 So brilliant. 1019 01:01:46,833 --> 01:01:48,566 I like these - these are fucking awesome. 1020 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,766 These are the kind of shit that get people all crazy. 1021 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:53,700 It's weird. 1022 01:01:53,733 --> 01:01:54,933 My dad came back into my life. 1023 01:01:54,966 --> 01:01:56,200 My brother was like just try. 1024 01:01:56,233 --> 01:01:57,633 And so I talked to him. 1025 01:01:57,666 --> 01:02:00,266 He came up in November, spent a couple days at the house, 1026 01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:03,533 We had a fantastic time. We just talked the whole time. 1027 01:02:03,566 --> 01:02:04,833 It was amazing. 1028 01:02:04,866 --> 01:02:06,033 That's awesome dude. 1029 01:02:06,433 --> 01:02:09,000 The fact that you own your vagina, 1030 01:02:09,033 --> 01:02:13,466 to me, has probably been one of the most amazing things for me 1031 01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:18,666 to discover as a trans person - because I never felt 1032 01:02:18,700 --> 01:02:22,433 connected to it, and now I do, and I love my little dick. 1033 01:02:22,466 --> 01:02:28,533 I fucking, I actually love my body now. 1034 01:02:28,566 --> 01:02:31,733 And sexually when I am having sex, 1035 01:02:31,766 --> 01:02:36,033 I feel so there, and because I started getting into porn and 1036 01:02:36,066 --> 01:02:39,966 really exploring that side of myself, 1037 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,333 all of a sudden, I was...I used to be like a lights off, 1038 01:02:44,366 --> 01:02:47,900 under the blankets kind of like you know sex guy, 1039 01:02:47,933 --> 01:02:50,633 and now I am like let's go. 1040 01:02:50,666 --> 01:02:53,966 I am like I am there, I want, I want it, 1041 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,366 put lights on it. 1042 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,500 I want to see everything. 1043 01:02:56,533 --> 01:02:57,533 I want to right in there. 1044 01:02:57,566 --> 01:02:59,933 So I got a huge variety of people, 1045 01:02:59,966 --> 01:03:03,500 not just trans men, but like lovers of trans men or 1046 01:03:03,533 --> 01:03:07,500 biological women who only ever dated biological men. 1047 01:03:07,533 --> 01:03:10,400 [dog barking] 1048 01:03:10,433 --> 01:03:12,633 Lola! 1049 01:03:15,666 --> 01:03:16,533 Our house is a zoo. 1050 01:03:17,866 --> 01:03:19,000 Our house is a zoo. 1051 01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:22,000 That is the most annoying bark. 1052 01:03:25,066 --> 01:03:29,033 [dogs barking] 1053 01:03:29,066 --> 01:03:33,333 So this word gratitude is the best word ever. 1054 01:03:33,366 --> 01:03:36,633 Cause really Elayne actually taught me about gratitude. 1055 01:03:36,666 --> 01:03:38,566 And you have to have gratitude, and when you have gratitude, 1056 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:44,300 that's when everything comes to you. 1057 01:03:48,333 --> 01:03:50,966 Even though he lives out of the country, 1058 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,733 we are always in touch. 1059 01:03:52,766 --> 01:03:56,700 It's not like you go 6 months at a time without talking... no. 1060 01:03:56,733 --> 01:04:00,666 - I think Buck knows we love him. - Of course he does. 1061 01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:01,733 Whether it be a man or a woman. 1062 01:04:01,766 --> 01:04:02,900 Doesn't really make any difference. 1063 01:04:02,933 --> 01:04:04,300 That's not the issue. 1064 01:04:04,333 --> 01:04:05,766 But he treats us well. 1065 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:11,700 He's respectful and I mean there's certainly a lot worse 1066 01:04:11,733 --> 01:04:15,466 things that have happened to people. 1067 01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:20,566 My father thinks of me as an oddity. 1068 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,766 It does hurt my feelings, but it doesn't make me upset. 1069 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,700 It only makes me know that my work is that much more 1070 01:04:26,733 --> 01:04:31,200 important, and that will I ever change my dad's idea, 1071 01:04:31,233 --> 01:04:34,566 that no dad, I am not an oddity, you don't understand. 1072 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:35,666 I am not. 1073 01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:41,666 There is still an emotional issue within the family. 1074 01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:43,333 We don't discuss it. 1075 01:04:43,366 --> 01:04:45,200 We just accept it and move on. 1076 01:04:45,233 --> 01:04:47,933 I mean there's no conversations around the table saying well 1077 01:04:47,966 --> 01:04:49,733 what do you think? 1078 01:04:49,766 --> 01:04:57,766 We just accept and move on and just live our lives. 1079 01:05:02,333 --> 01:05:04,566 What he's doing with himself and how 1080 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,133 he's treating people and... 1081 01:05:07,166 --> 01:05:10,533 and he's going out and talking about this, 1082 01:05:10,566 --> 01:05:11,666 all over the world. 1083 01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:12,766 Let's talk about going to the bathroom. 1084 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,033 Duh you of course you go to the male side, 1085 01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:18,566 Go In the stall... 1086 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,133 Well I can stand up. It's not a problem. 1087 01:05:22,166 --> 01:05:24,200 You can stand up and pee? 1088 01:05:24,233 --> 01:05:25,566 So dumb... 1089 01:05:27,900 --> 01:05:29,500 That made me remember something. 1090 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,400 When you were about 5 or 6, and I walked in the bathroom, 1091 01:05:33,433 --> 01:05:38,000 and you were standing, straddling the toilet, 1092 01:05:38,033 --> 01:05:39,833 you said I am peeing like dad. 1093 01:05:39,866 --> 01:05:42,500 That's awesome. 1094 01:05:42,533 --> 01:05:45,966 - I said you can't pee like that. - That should have been 1095 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,000 your first clue, Mom. 1096 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,500 ♪♪ 1097 01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:56,433 It was like a light bulb went on in my head, 1098 01:05:56,466 --> 01:06:01,033 and I said like why do I care so much what you tell 1099 01:06:01,066 --> 01:06:03,566 me I have to be. 1100 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,000 Why? Why do we all care what other people think about us? 1101 01:06:08,033 --> 01:06:10,133 When I realize I don't care anymore, 1102 01:06:10,166 --> 01:06:12,766 that was it, it was like I don't care. 1103 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,000 I have a vagina. 1104 01:06:14,033 --> 01:06:18,033 You know what, my vagina is awesome. 1105 01:06:19,233 --> 01:06:21,566 [cheering, applause] 1106 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:27,600 The fact that I had to waste 28 years of my life worrying about 1107 01:06:27,633 --> 01:06:30,233 what the world thought of me and that I was never going to be 1108 01:06:30,266 --> 01:06:32,733 happy is never going to happen again. 1109 01:06:32,766 --> 01:06:35,833 And I really want the world and people to understand that you 1110 01:06:35,866 --> 01:06:40,133 don't have to conform to the way society tells you to conform. 1111 01:06:40,166 --> 01:06:45,833 Tell them screw you, I am who I am whether you like it or not. 85011

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