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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,545 --> 00:00:14,615 [music playing] 2 00:00:19,953 --> 00:00:23,124 -[beep] -[Fred Beckey] Hey, this is Beckey. This is Beckey. 3 00:00:23,157 --> 00:00:24,392 Fred Beckey. This is Beckey. 4 00:00:24,425 --> 00:00:26,560 Fred Beckey again. Again, again. 5 00:00:26,594 --> 00:00:28,062 Hey, I'm trying to get ahold of you. 6 00:00:28,096 --> 00:00:29,263 Hey, man, you're hard to get ahold of. 7 00:00:29,297 --> 00:00:30,731 I know, I left you a message yesterday. 8 00:00:30,764 --> 00:00:32,400 I've called about 35 people. 9 00:00:32,433 --> 00:00:35,403 Hey, listen, I wanna talk to you about a trip 10 00:00:35,436 --> 00:00:36,670 that I have planned... 11 00:00:36,704 --> 00:00:38,038 I'm leaving right now for California 12 00:00:38,072 --> 00:00:39,707 and then Arizona, then Utah. 13 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:42,610 I called you over and over. Hey, where are you, man? 14 00:00:42,643 --> 00:00:44,612 Are you off on the moon somewhere? An Apollo mission? 15 00:00:44,645 --> 00:00:47,115 Hey, listen, I'm really pissed off. 16 00:00:47,148 --> 00:00:49,117 P-I-S-S-E-D. 17 00:00:49,150 --> 00:00:50,784 I got some free time now, you know me. 18 00:00:50,818 --> 00:00:52,019 I have more free time than money. 19 00:00:52,052 --> 00:00:54,188 Try to give me a call back as soon as you can. 20 00:00:54,222 --> 00:00:55,423 Call me back if you can. 21 00:00:55,456 --> 00:00:57,057 So, give me a call back anytime... 22 00:00:57,091 --> 00:01:00,161 It's not gonna be that big a chunk of time in your life. 23 00:01:03,397 --> 00:01:07,501 [Alex Bertulis] Fred Beckey is an enigma. 24 00:01:09,803 --> 00:01:12,740 There'll be Freudian psychologists 25 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,508 that will analyze him 26 00:01:14,542 --> 00:01:18,579 long after he's gone to the next world. 27 00:01:18,612 --> 00:01:21,515 [Yvon Chouinard] He's totally obsessive. That's who Fred is. 28 00:01:21,549 --> 00:01:25,819 You know, obsessive behavior can lead to absolute genius. 29 00:01:25,853 --> 00:01:28,489 [Corey Rich] There is so many urban myths and legends 30 00:01:28,522 --> 00:01:33,561 that surround who Fred Beckey really is. 31 00:01:33,594 --> 00:01:36,130 [Steve Marts] He was driven like no man I've ever met, 32 00:01:36,164 --> 00:01:38,031 relentlessly. 33 00:01:38,065 --> 00:01:40,334 [Eric Bjornstad] One track mind most of the time. 34 00:01:40,368 --> 00:01:42,470 If it wasn't on women, it was on climbing. [chuckles] 35 00:01:42,503 --> 00:01:44,438 [Conrad Anker] Fred chose this other lifestyle. 36 00:01:44,472 --> 00:01:46,140 [Barry Blanchard] He created his own culture. 37 00:01:46,174 --> 00:01:47,708 He became a culture of one. 38 00:01:47,741 --> 00:01:49,477 [Allen Huxley] I suppose you could say he's like 39 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:52,313 the Bob Dylan of mountain climbing. 40 00:01:52,346 --> 00:01:53,614 All these great achievements, 41 00:01:53,647 --> 00:01:55,783 but completely inscrutable, 42 00:01:55,816 --> 00:01:59,187 and no one's really sure if they even like him or not. 43 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:00,888 [Yvon Chouinard] He's a dirtbag, 44 00:02:00,921 --> 00:02:03,324 and because of that, I don't think he'll get 45 00:02:03,357 --> 00:02:06,460 the recognition that he really deserves. 46 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:11,265 [music playing] 47 00:02:36,089 --> 00:02:39,727 [Fred] I don't even really know what motivates a person to climb. 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,330 To me, it's some kind of a combination of adventure 49 00:02:42,363 --> 00:02:44,765 that has a certain amount of risk, 50 00:02:44,798 --> 00:02:46,634 depending on other people. 51 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:50,571 Almost any climb has some uncertainty. 52 00:02:50,604 --> 00:02:54,141 You never know, there could be a rock fall, an avalanche, 53 00:02:54,174 --> 00:02:55,476 somebody could get hurt. 54 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:58,979 So there's certain amount of adventure. 55 00:02:59,012 --> 00:03:00,581 I mean, some people may think it's an adventure 56 00:03:00,614 --> 00:03:02,716 to go on a cruise ship to the Mediterranean 57 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:05,653 and that's great if they wanna do that. 58 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:10,224 To me, it's no adventure at all unless somebody bombs the ship. 59 00:03:13,427 --> 00:03:16,330 You know, good climbing today. Good climbing. 60 00:03:16,364 --> 00:03:18,599 Yeah, I enjoyed it. Pretty good. 61 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:21,068 Hope I didn't fuck you guys' movies up. 62 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:22,703 [Todd Offenbacher] Is there anything more important 63 00:03:22,736 --> 00:03:24,137 to you than climbing? 64 00:03:24,171 --> 00:03:25,439 It's hard to say. It's hard to say. 65 00:03:25,473 --> 00:03:28,242 I like to write and accomplish something. 66 00:03:28,276 --> 00:03:29,777 I should have brought a pencil with an eraser. 67 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:32,513 That was a fuck-up. I should know better. 68 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:34,482 [Todd Offenbacher] How is it that you can climb 69 00:03:34,515 --> 00:03:35,416 as well as you do still? 70 00:03:35,449 --> 00:03:37,451 Really, what's the secret? 71 00:03:37,485 --> 00:03:40,821 [Fred] I don't know, I don't think I have any. I don't know. 72 00:03:40,854 --> 00:03:42,189 I don't take vitamins, 73 00:03:42,222 --> 00:03:44,124 and I am not a health food addict. 74 00:03:44,157 --> 00:03:46,226 I just try to keep active. 75 00:03:48,396 --> 00:03:50,631 I was drawn to Beckey in my book The Good Rain 76 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:54,101 because he's a mythic figure. 77 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:58,038 There are very few mountains left in the world 78 00:03:58,071 --> 00:04:00,107 that nobody's ever climbed. 79 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:03,444 And in the climbing world to be credited with a first ascent, 80 00:04:03,477 --> 00:04:05,479 being the first human being to climb a mountain, 81 00:04:05,513 --> 00:04:07,515 is considered quite a big deal. 82 00:04:09,149 --> 00:04:11,151 [Barry Blanchard] It's hard to imagine anyone in North America 83 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:13,421 starting to do any form of climbing 84 00:04:13,454 --> 00:04:15,689 and soon not hear about Fred Beckey. 85 00:04:15,723 --> 00:04:17,491 [Royal Robbins] His name is everywhere. 86 00:04:17,525 --> 00:04:19,360 This is the guy from Pacific Northwest, 87 00:04:19,393 --> 00:04:21,094 and he climbed all over the United States, 88 00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:22,430 in Europe, in Canada. 89 00:04:22,463 --> 00:04:24,732 He was there before the rest of us were. 90 00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:27,200 [Yvon] Certainly no person in the history of climbing 91 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:29,403 has ever amassed so many first ascents. 92 00:04:29,437 --> 00:04:33,106 [Conrad] What makes Fred special in my book 93 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:35,409 is his unending quest 94 00:04:35,443 --> 00:04:39,246 for new routes to do something unexplored. 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,615 [Timothy] His contemporaries, say in the 1950s or the 1960s, 96 00:04:41,649 --> 00:04:44,618 those people ended up on the cover of Life magazine. 97 00:04:44,652 --> 00:04:47,621 That to me has been one of the great mysteries: 98 00:04:47,655 --> 00:04:51,124 Why did the best climber of all never go on to the greatness 99 00:04:51,158 --> 00:04:53,226 that they all did? 100 00:04:55,496 --> 00:04:57,731 [birds chirping] 101 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:02,135 [music playing] 102 00:05:02,169 --> 00:05:03,337 He is the ultimate dirtbag. 103 00:05:03,371 --> 00:05:06,507 He was the first dirtbag I ever knew, 104 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:09,643 and, you know, we all became dirtbags eventually, 105 00:05:09,677 --> 00:05:11,612 but he was the leader. 106 00:05:16,784 --> 00:05:19,052 [Eric] Because he climbed so much, 107 00:05:19,086 --> 00:05:21,121 he didn't ever work at a job, 108 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:22,322 like nine-to-five, you know, 109 00:05:22,356 --> 00:05:25,258 five days a week, like most people. 110 00:05:26,860 --> 00:05:29,530 [Alex] In the Alps, there was a tradition of dressing up 111 00:05:30,097 --> 00:05:32,533 formally for alpine climbing, 112 00:05:32,566 --> 00:05:36,303 and Fred, he looked like somebody that just came out of 113 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:40,808 a homeless shelter or someplace. 114 00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:42,209 He had his own style, 115 00:05:42,242 --> 00:05:44,712 there's no doubt about that. He was different. 116 00:05:44,745 --> 00:05:47,114 [Ed Cooper] He had a pink Thunderbird, 117 00:05:47,147 --> 00:05:50,250 and we all wondered what kind of vehicle is that 118 00:05:50,283 --> 00:05:52,786 to load climbing gear into. We couldn't understand it. 119 00:05:52,820 --> 00:05:55,322 [Alex] That T-bird did not give him good mileage, 120 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,625 but it got a lot of laughs. 121 00:05:57,658 --> 00:06:01,529 And of course, it was the ultimate pick-up car for women. 122 00:06:03,296 --> 00:06:06,099 [Fred] I just bought the car on a whim as of kind of a joke. 123 00:06:06,133 --> 00:06:07,167 It was a good road car, actually, 124 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,702 but a little bit of a gas eater, 125 00:06:08,736 --> 00:06:10,303 and I drove it all over the country. 126 00:06:10,337 --> 00:06:14,174 Must have put a hundred thousand miles on it. 127 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:15,476 [Barry] We have a whole culture 128 00:06:15,509 --> 00:06:18,278 of dirtbagism and road tripping in North America, 129 00:06:18,311 --> 00:06:20,514 and Fred's the grandfather of it. 130 00:06:20,548 --> 00:06:23,350 He's the grandfather of the road trip. 131 00:06:24,752 --> 00:06:27,154 [Ed Cooper] The legends about him driving 132 00:06:27,187 --> 00:06:30,791 halfway across the Western Continent, you know, 133 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:32,560 to do a pinnacle in Arizona 134 00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:34,462 and then to do some climbing in British Columbia, 135 00:06:34,495 --> 00:06:36,530 and then go back to Montana for another climb, 136 00:06:36,564 --> 00:06:37,665 those were all true. 137 00:06:37,698 --> 00:06:40,333 That's what he did. 138 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:43,403 You know, a lot of people, a climbing trip is two weeks, 139 00:06:43,437 --> 00:06:45,205 Fred would start off in spring, 140 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:48,308 climb through the summer in the mountains 141 00:06:48,341 --> 00:06:49,577 and the high peaks, 142 00:06:49,610 --> 00:06:51,111 Wind Rivers and the places 143 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:54,014 and then, in the fall, wind up in the desert. 144 00:06:54,047 --> 00:06:57,150 [Steve Gunn] * There's a constant motion 145 00:06:57,184 --> 00:07:02,155 * Makes you feel like the ocean * 146 00:07:02,189 --> 00:07:08,596 * Moving through the seasons and I'm hoping for the best * 147 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:11,164 [Eric] He's just so restless, 148 00:07:11,198 --> 00:07:13,333 always living out of his car. 149 00:07:13,366 --> 00:07:16,537 His second home, for a while, was my basement. 150 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:19,406 [Barry] Climbing actually doesn't cost that much money, 151 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:20,708 especially the way Fred plays it, 152 00:07:20,741 --> 00:07:23,076 it doesn't have to be that expensive. 153 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:26,213 Food is really available in North America 154 00:07:26,246 --> 00:07:28,148 if you know where to look for it. [laughs] 155 00:07:29,349 --> 00:07:30,651 [Yvon] You know, he'd go to restaurants, 156 00:07:30,684 --> 00:07:33,286 and he'd pick up 10 packages of ketchup 157 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,556 and sugar and stuff 'em away. 158 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:39,560 Make up the eggs, put a little McDonald's sugar in here. 159 00:07:39,593 --> 00:07:42,295 -Breakfast sandwich. -Nice. 160 00:07:42,329 --> 00:07:44,131 [Todd] All of us, kind of, look at Fred going, 161 00:07:44,164 --> 00:07:45,599 "God, how can we get a piece of that. 162 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:47,968 How can we get that Fountain of Youth 163 00:07:48,001 --> 00:07:49,570 that lies within Fred Beckey." 164 00:07:49,603 --> 00:07:52,773 I don't really know what it is other than just his spirit 165 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,341 and his mindset 166 00:07:54,374 --> 00:07:56,510 because if you watch him eat, 167 00:07:56,544 --> 00:07:57,711 he eats like shit. 168 00:07:57,745 --> 00:07:59,079 He eats tons of fast food. 169 00:07:59,112 --> 00:08:00,581 He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke. 170 00:08:00,614 --> 00:08:03,283 but he'll hang onto a piece of food for weeks, 171 00:08:03,316 --> 00:08:05,352 and pull it out of his backpack and eat it. 172 00:08:05,385 --> 00:08:07,588 I got some cream cheese that I swiped somewhere 173 00:08:07,621 --> 00:08:10,624 and still... it's edible. 174 00:08:10,658 --> 00:08:11,825 I remember driving with him 175 00:08:11,859 --> 00:08:13,794 in the car on a road trip somewhere, 176 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:16,063 and I took that empty McDonald's coffee cup 177 00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:17,397 and threw it away, 178 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:19,533 and real quickly Fred started questioning me, 179 00:08:19,567 --> 00:08:22,269 you know, "Have you seen my cup? I had a cup around here." 180 00:08:22,302 --> 00:08:24,237 He proceeded for the next five hours to look for the cup, 181 00:08:24,271 --> 00:08:26,139 talk about the cup, bitch about the cup, 182 00:08:26,173 --> 00:08:30,477 "At McDonald's, you get free refills with an empty coffee cup. 183 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,079 he'd been hanging on to the cup for, who knows, 184 00:08:32,112 --> 00:08:34,548 probably most of the summer. 185 00:08:34,582 --> 00:08:37,517 [Yvon] Fred had this sport coat that he bought for 25 cents. 186 00:08:37,551 --> 00:08:39,687 He stuffed pieces of this 187 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,056 Louis L'Amour novel that he was reading, 188 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:44,424 stuffing it inside the liner-- 189 00:08:44,457 --> 00:08:47,460 made a down jacket out of it, basically. 190 00:08:47,494 --> 00:08:49,763 He bivouacked in that, and then the next morning, 191 00:08:49,797 --> 00:08:54,267 burned the thing to heat up some tea. [laughs] 192 00:08:54,301 --> 00:08:57,437 He is the ultimate, the consummate dirtbag. 193 00:08:57,470 --> 00:09:00,708 You know, living as unobtrusively 194 00:09:00,741 --> 00:09:03,143 on the edge of society, 195 00:09:03,176 --> 00:09:04,712 as is possible for human to do. 196 00:09:04,745 --> 00:09:06,446 And to still have a focus on something. 197 00:09:06,479 --> 00:09:10,117 He was not a druggie or drunk, or anything like that. 198 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:14,321 He was an addict, but his addiction was climbing. 199 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:25,298 [announcements on P.A.] 200 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:34,307 [Todd] Once again Fred Beckey had a mountain 201 00:09:34,341 --> 00:09:36,710 that was unclimbed, scoped out. 202 00:09:36,744 --> 00:09:38,111 Now a lot of people said before the trip, 203 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:39,613 you know, is he gonna be able to do it? 204 00:09:39,647 --> 00:09:40,848 What happens if Fred Beckey dies? 205 00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:42,349 And I think we all just kinda laughed and said, 206 00:09:42,382 --> 00:09:44,384 [Todd Offenbacher] "Fred's gonna do it with or without us." 207 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:46,453 -[Fred] Where is this village? -[man] From Kanding. 208 00:09:46,486 --> 00:09:49,156 -It's around two hours... -[Fred] Down here. 209 00:09:52,492 --> 00:09:55,562 Of the unclimbed challenge, I think... 210 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:58,799 you're looking at Pakistan, China, Greenland. 211 00:09:58,832 --> 00:10:03,370 China alone has just got a wealth of beautiful, 212 00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:07,040 unclimbed peaks in the 5000-, 6000-meter range. 213 00:10:07,074 --> 00:10:10,243 Hardly anybody knows about 'em. 214 00:10:14,147 --> 00:10:16,984 I think it's a thirty years dream. 215 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:19,319 I cannot believe that Fred would come back now. 216 00:10:19,352 --> 00:10:21,154 He's eighty three years old. 217 00:10:24,357 --> 00:10:26,426 [birds chirping] 218 00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:32,032 -You recording all this? -[Todd laughs] 219 00:10:32,065 --> 00:10:35,068 Do you guys got some first-aid stuff? 220 00:10:35,102 --> 00:10:36,970 I do have a roll of duct tape. 221 00:10:37,004 --> 00:10:41,374 I got lunch food. I got... 222 00:10:41,408 --> 00:10:44,277 a lot of lemon powder. 223 00:10:44,311 --> 00:10:48,181 [Todd laughs] Lemon? All right... 224 00:10:50,684 --> 00:10:52,219 Anyone that's ever taken 225 00:10:52,252 --> 00:10:55,088 an international third world trip into the mountains, 226 00:10:55,122 --> 00:10:58,625 knows how brutal the travel can be. 227 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:01,061 [horns honking] 228 00:11:01,094 --> 00:11:05,498 Are you excited to get into the mountains, Fred? 229 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:07,667 If you get too excited, you wet your pants, you know? 230 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:09,236 [Todd laughs] 231 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:19,479 [David] How's your head feeling? 232 00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:21,114 It's OK. 233 00:11:22,415 --> 00:11:23,751 My thinking is that, 234 00:11:23,784 --> 00:11:25,886 we don't want to hurry it too much 235 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:27,487 with the acclimatization. 236 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:36,496 I think we are in a pretty comfortable spot at his point. 237 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:38,732 He seems to be doing OK. 238 00:11:38,766 --> 00:11:42,335 And that's the goal, to get him as rested as possible 239 00:11:42,369 --> 00:11:44,671 because it's a big push. 240 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:59,086 [Reinhold] It's boring to go to the mountains, 241 00:11:59,119 --> 00:12:01,154 from the fifth year of your life, 242 00:12:01,188 --> 00:12:03,056 up to the ninetieth year of your life. 243 00:12:03,090 --> 00:12:04,457 This is boring. 244 00:12:04,491 --> 00:12:06,059 I hope you're filming all this. 245 00:12:06,093 --> 00:12:08,261 [Timothy] Reinhold Messner is largely recognized 246 00:12:08,295 --> 00:12:09,729 as the best mountaineer ever, the guy who climbed 247 00:12:09,763 --> 00:12:11,698 every major peak without oxygen. 248 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:14,067 And there's this climbing called "Alpine style," 249 00:12:14,101 --> 00:12:16,269 which is climbing quickly and without oxygen. 250 00:12:16,303 --> 00:12:17,737 and for that matter, 251 00:12:17,771 --> 00:12:20,073 without a supplemental expedition at your base. 252 00:12:20,107 --> 00:12:22,042 Beckey was doing that when he was in his teens and twenties, 253 00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:24,211 when everybody else was saying you need a group. 254 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:27,214 His experiences and his climbs, 255 00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:30,450 I would say his ocean of what he did 256 00:12:30,483 --> 00:12:33,821 and what is in his soul is so big, 257 00:12:33,854 --> 00:12:36,623 that he could give away forever. 258 00:12:36,656 --> 00:12:39,192 Why he is going to China to hike up a mountain? 259 00:12:39,226 --> 00:12:40,727 It's not necessary anymore. 260 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,031 It's much more important, and much more intelligent, 261 00:12:44,064 --> 00:12:49,436 that he uses his last years to do something creative. 262 00:12:49,469 --> 00:12:51,271 [Todd] You think you can make it to the summit, Fred? 263 00:12:51,304 --> 00:12:52,672 On this trip? 264 00:12:52,705 --> 00:12:53,974 [Fred] I don't know, I hope so. 265 00:12:54,007 --> 00:12:56,176 [wind howling] 266 00:13:01,148 --> 00:13:03,250 [Ralph] Get some good sleep last night, Fred? 267 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:06,053 -No. -[Ralph] No? 268 00:13:06,086 --> 00:13:09,622 At least the weather looks better. 269 00:13:09,656 --> 00:13:11,458 Right now, it stopped snowing. 270 00:13:11,491 --> 00:13:13,827 You can see the mountain, yeah. 271 00:13:13,861 --> 00:13:14,794 We've got a window of opportunity 272 00:13:14,828 --> 00:13:16,196 with the weather, it looks like. 273 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,630 Yeah. 274 00:13:17,664 --> 00:13:19,032 Yeah, I hope it lasts. 275 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:21,234 You think you want to go up tomorrow? 276 00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:24,804 [sighs] 277 00:13:36,716 --> 00:13:39,486 I haven't decided yet when I want to go up. 278 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:40,988 I'm just not sure I'm really, 279 00:13:41,021 --> 00:13:42,655 if I don't think I can keep up, I'm not gonna. 280 00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:44,424 There's no point to it. 281 00:13:45,859 --> 00:13:49,196 [Todd] Yeah, get some sleep today, get some rest. 282 00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:52,832 Seems like you're feeling better. 283 00:14:15,055 --> 00:14:16,689 -[Fred] Take your time up there. -[Dave O'Leske] All right. 284 00:14:16,723 --> 00:14:17,690 -OK. -OK. 285 00:14:17,724 --> 00:14:19,426 If we need an extra day, take it. 286 00:14:19,459 --> 00:14:23,430 [Todd] OK, Fred, we're gonna try and go early for the Summit. 287 00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:25,465 Just keep plugging away slow. 288 00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:28,068 -It's a hell of a job. -[beep] 289 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:29,402 [Todd] It was sad that Fred 290 00:14:29,436 --> 00:14:31,304 couldn't get up there and climb with us, 291 00:14:31,338 --> 00:14:33,806 and do what he had done so many times before 292 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,608 in the mountains. 293 00:14:43,150 --> 00:14:49,056 [Helmy Beckey] Fred was born in Germany, 1923. 294 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:53,260 Our parents came to the USA 295 00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:56,663 with my brother in 1924, 296 00:14:56,696 --> 00:15:01,568 a good 10 years before Adolf Hitler got into power. 297 00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:04,504 As kids, we were together all the time. 298 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,173 That's my mother. 299 00:15:06,206 --> 00:15:08,108 and that's me in the middle, Helmy. 300 00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:09,476 And there's Fred, 301 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:13,713 known at that time as Wolfgang or Wolf. 302 00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:15,615 The neighborhood kids kidded him around. 303 00:15:15,648 --> 00:15:18,785 they laughed at him because of his name, Wolf. 304 00:15:18,818 --> 00:15:22,189 And then he changed his name to Fred, 305 00:15:22,222 --> 00:15:26,693 because he didn't appreciate being laughed at. 306 00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:28,361 He went into the Boys Scouts, 307 00:15:28,395 --> 00:15:30,530 and they went hiking and climbing. 308 00:15:30,563 --> 00:15:33,300 [Fred] We did some small peaks in the Olympics. 309 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:35,735 I liked it, I had a good time, I enjoyed it. 310 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:38,238 I felt it was a lot more fun than doing any team sports 311 00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:39,472 and I kind of appealed to me. 312 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:41,141 It was kind of fun. 313 00:15:41,174 --> 00:15:45,378 And I think just one thing led to another. 314 00:15:49,016 --> 00:15:51,551 [Wolf] There's a glacial boulder in Seattle, 315 00:15:51,584 --> 00:15:55,022 it has about six or seven climbing routes, 316 00:15:55,055 --> 00:15:58,525 and I started a little climbing class for the older boys. 317 00:15:58,558 --> 00:16:00,127 [music playing] 318 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,495 It was there that Fred and I struck up our friendship. 319 00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:07,234 By 1938, we were beginning to do climbs 320 00:16:07,267 --> 00:16:09,269 in the Cascades. 321 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:12,572 [Fred] I met some people my own age who were taking the course, 322 00:16:12,605 --> 00:16:15,575 and we went on trips of our own. 323 00:16:31,958 --> 00:16:34,094 [Lowell Skoog] You started to see a new kind of mountaineering 324 00:16:34,127 --> 00:16:35,328 in the Northwest. 325 00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:38,198 Maybe three or four climbers going out on 326 00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:41,101 much more adventurous, remote trips 327 00:16:41,134 --> 00:16:43,370 than their predecessors had done, 328 00:16:43,403 --> 00:16:46,239 and really starting to explore 329 00:16:46,273 --> 00:16:49,109 all throughout the Northwest and in the Cascades, 330 00:16:49,142 --> 00:16:52,312 where Fred really devoted lot of his energy. 331 00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:59,119 [Jim Donini] The only real Alpine mountains, lower 48, 332 00:16:59,152 --> 00:17:00,420 are in the Pacific Northwest. 333 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:02,822 So they had this playground, like a mini Himalaya, 334 00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:04,291 right in their backyard. 335 00:17:04,324 --> 00:17:06,559 When Fred started way back when, 336 00:17:06,593 --> 00:17:07,760 a lot of those beautiful peaks 337 00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:10,497 never had anybody on their summits. 338 00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:14,601 [Fred] The first... first ascent, 339 00:17:14,634 --> 00:17:16,436 we went to Mt. Despair. 340 00:17:18,071 --> 00:17:19,806 Probably, today's climbers 341 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:24,377 or even the most skilled ones don't have a real deep feeling 342 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:28,047 of what it's like to try a route that nobody's ever been on. 343 00:17:31,351 --> 00:17:33,320 Fred was talking about his climbing 344 00:17:33,353 --> 00:17:35,122 and talking, talking, talking... 345 00:17:35,155 --> 00:17:39,292 and he dragged me along, you know. [laughs] 346 00:17:39,326 --> 00:17:43,430 1940, here's some pictures of the first ascent 347 00:17:43,463 --> 00:17:46,433 we made of Forbidden Peak. 348 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:49,802 That was my first-first ascent. 349 00:17:49,836 --> 00:17:51,504 Scary... [laughs] 350 00:17:51,538 --> 00:17:53,406 Frightening. 351 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,807 [Dave] What did your parents think 352 00:17:54,841 --> 00:17:57,710 about you and Fred climbing? 353 00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:00,813 [Helmy] I don't think they knew how... 354 00:18:00,847 --> 00:18:04,050 dangerous things got sometimes, 355 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:06,153 or how scary it was. 356 00:18:06,186 --> 00:18:08,455 I think they understood that there was some danger out there, 357 00:18:08,488 --> 00:18:10,557 but there wasn't much that they could do about it, 358 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,792 except forbid us to go, 359 00:18:12,825 --> 00:18:15,195 and that wouldn't have worked either. 360 00:18:15,228 --> 00:18:17,630 [Fred] Yeah, I probably am pretty independent, yeah. 361 00:18:17,664 --> 00:18:20,467 I don't think many kids 362 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:22,535 17 and 19 would take off for Mount Waddington 363 00:18:22,569 --> 00:18:24,971 when they're still in high school. 364 00:18:25,004 --> 00:18:26,739 Uh-uh. Uh-uh 365 00:18:29,509 --> 00:18:32,044 [Colin] That second ascent of Mt. Waddington 366 00:18:32,078 --> 00:18:33,446 which Fred and Helmy did 367 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,316 when they were 19 and 17 years old, 368 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:38,618 that's a hard route today. It's probably been climbed 369 00:18:38,651 --> 00:18:42,355 less than 10 times total. 370 00:18:42,389 --> 00:18:46,893 [Nick Clinch] Waddington was a huge challenge for North American mountaineers. 371 00:18:46,926 --> 00:18:48,595 The best Sierra Club climbers went up there and tried it, 372 00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:50,330 and then it was finally done by Fritz Wiessner 373 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,199 who was considered the leading climber 374 00:18:52,232 --> 00:18:53,466 in the United States. 375 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:54,801 [Barry] It's mind-blowing to think 376 00:18:54,834 --> 00:18:57,370 that these two teenage boys from Seattle 377 00:18:57,404 --> 00:18:59,606 spent a month and a half 378 00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:03,142 in the absolute wilderness of British Columbia. 379 00:19:03,176 --> 00:19:05,077 [Fred] I still can't even remember 380 00:19:05,111 --> 00:19:06,313 how we put that together. 381 00:19:06,346 --> 00:19:08,515 We must have somewhere taken a bus 382 00:19:08,548 --> 00:19:10,417 out to a big grocery store, 383 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:13,085 and bought all our groceries for six weeks. 384 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,687 That's a lot of groceries. 385 00:19:14,721 --> 00:19:17,023 [music playing] 386 00:19:17,056 --> 00:19:19,759 [Fred] We made a menu up, and then we repeated it. 387 00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:22,094 I had it all figured out, little squares. 388 00:19:22,128 --> 00:19:23,496 packed it up in cloth bags. 389 00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:25,031 So I got a cloth bag, 390 00:19:25,064 --> 00:19:27,600 you know there's everything you need for three days. 391 00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:33,240 We would never have gotten that trip off the ground 392 00:19:33,273 --> 00:19:36,108 if it hadn't been for Don Mundy and his wife. 393 00:19:36,142 --> 00:19:38,645 They set us up with a guy who had a fishing boat 394 00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:41,214 and he took us to the head of Knight Inlet, 395 00:19:41,248 --> 00:19:43,350 dropped us off. Adios. 396 00:19:43,383 --> 00:19:47,554 We spent, maybe, two weeks relaying back and forth loads. 397 00:19:47,587 --> 00:19:49,756 [Conrad] This is ferocious bushwhacking 398 00:19:49,789 --> 00:19:52,392 through coastal temperate forest 399 00:19:52,425 --> 00:19:55,595 with downfall the size of telephone poles. 400 00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:57,530 [Peter Croft] They've actually called Waddington 401 00:19:57,564 --> 00:19:59,232 the mystery mountain 402 00:19:59,266 --> 00:20:03,135 because for a long time it was a blank spot on the map. 403 00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:05,272 If it had gone horribly wrong, 404 00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:06,773 it's hard to say if they'd even ever be found. 405 00:20:06,806 --> 00:20:09,108 [Fred] I once fell into a crevasse. 406 00:20:09,141 --> 00:20:11,077 My brother essentially grabbed me by the collar 407 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:12,812 and pulled me out. 408 00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:14,547 And that could have been the end of the trip, 409 00:20:14,581 --> 00:20:17,049 the end of more than the trip. 410 00:20:31,398 --> 00:20:34,367 [Helmy] At the very, very top Fred did the leading, you know. 411 00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:37,704 Right in where it's really hairy. 412 00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:40,239 Scared, frightened. 413 00:20:40,273 --> 00:20:43,410 I don't know about Fred. He never mentioned it to me. 414 00:20:43,443 --> 00:20:46,446 I was, "You just look down," you know. 415 00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:48,648 You just don't. 416 00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:52,218 [Fred] Spent the night essentially on the summit, a few feet below. 417 00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:55,355 Must have been shivering, all we had were sweaters. 418 00:20:55,388 --> 00:21:00,660 [Helmy] I had my 17th birthday on top of Waddington. 419 00:21:00,693 --> 00:21:04,397 "Hope we live through the night." 420 00:21:04,431 --> 00:21:07,534 We didn't sleep, we just... 421 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:09,469 sweated it out, you know? 422 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:11,604 Coming down was more dangerous than going up 423 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:14,674 because we were coming down in the late afternoon, 424 00:21:14,707 --> 00:21:17,310 and by then, snow and ice on the ledges had loosened up, 425 00:21:17,344 --> 00:21:18,411 rocks were coming down. 426 00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:21,348 My brother got hit on the knee. 427 00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:24,417 [Helmy] God, that hurt like holy hell, I'll tell you. 428 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:27,620 Thank God I didn't get hit on the head. 429 00:21:34,461 --> 00:21:36,529 [Barry] This is the second ascent of what was 430 00:21:36,563 --> 00:21:39,265 at that time the hardest Alpine climb in North America, 431 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:41,701 and two teenage boys walk up, do that, 432 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:44,136 and the whole world shifts. 433 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:46,806 It sucks the feet out from under all the men 434 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:48,908 because men are trying to do this thing. 435 00:21:54,581 --> 00:21:56,749 [Fred] We were a little bit surprised ourselves 436 00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:58,385 that we managed to pull it off. 437 00:21:58,418 --> 00:22:01,087 We got our pictures in the Seattle newspaper, that big. 438 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,655 Unless you rob a bank, 439 00:22:02,689 --> 00:22:05,825 it's kinda hard to get your picture in the paper. 440 00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:09,028 [Alex] During the early years, they were inseparable. 441 00:22:09,061 --> 00:22:12,432 It was during the epic Waddington expedition 442 00:22:12,465 --> 00:22:17,169 that Helmy sustained a rock fall on his knee. 443 00:22:17,203 --> 00:22:19,271 and injured it badly. 444 00:22:19,305 --> 00:22:23,643 Ever since then, Fred and Helmy drifted apart. 445 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:26,413 Helmy ended up going to Europe 446 00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:29,115 and he became a successful opera singer. 447 00:22:29,148 --> 00:22:33,653 But once Helmy stopped climbing with Fred, 448 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:39,492 Fred no longer took any interest in Helmy's life. 449 00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:43,195 They rarely saw each other. 450 00:22:43,229 --> 00:22:47,066 [Helmy] Our relationship deteriorated 451 00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:49,135 because he continued to climb, 452 00:22:49,168 --> 00:22:52,238 and I did not climb anymore. 453 00:22:54,306 --> 00:22:57,410 Forty-two, the war was on then. 454 00:22:57,444 --> 00:22:58,678 Fred had to go in the army. 455 00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:01,581 He was in the mountain troops. 456 00:23:01,614 --> 00:23:05,117 He was instructing climbers and skiers. 457 00:23:05,151 --> 00:23:07,920 He didn't have to go to Europe and fight. 458 00:23:07,954 --> 00:23:09,221 [Todd] What did you do in the army? 459 00:23:09,255 --> 00:23:10,623 -[Fred] Very little. -[Todd laughs] 460 00:23:10,657 --> 00:23:12,825 I was in the mountain training corps, 461 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:14,360 taught snowshoeing. 462 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,696 I don't know what there is to teach but... 463 00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:18,731 you know, you spend half the time freezing your butt off. 464 00:23:18,765 --> 00:23:21,768 I spent more time on the railroad than I did anywhere else, 465 00:23:21,801 --> 00:23:23,736 just going from place to place. 466 00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:37,149 [Bob] He was discharged before the division went overseas. 467 00:23:37,183 --> 00:23:39,486 I don't know whether it was a medical or what... 468 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:41,320 [Dave] He never talked to you about that? 469 00:23:41,353 --> 00:23:43,189 Never talked about it. 470 00:23:43,222 --> 00:23:46,859 [Steve Gunn] * Night climb. Window 471 00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:50,530 * Down the water, ground below * 472 00:23:50,563 --> 00:23:54,366 * Whatchya doing, where you going * 473 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,570 * Where you end up when the morning comes? * 474 00:24:05,812 --> 00:24:09,148 [Fred] I think the next, I'll have to go through my cobwebs in my 475 00:24:09,181 --> 00:24:10,683 little peanut sized brain, 476 00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:13,119 the next biggest thing I did was to get together 477 00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:14,854 with Cliff Schmidtke and Bob Craig, 478 00:24:14,887 --> 00:24:18,124 and went to Kate's Needle and Devil's Thumb. 479 00:24:18,157 --> 00:24:22,394 [Bob] I think Fred had read somewhere in the Sierra Club Journal 480 00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:25,464 about this great mountain. 481 00:24:25,498 --> 00:24:27,567 I certainly didn't know about Devil's Thumb. 482 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,103 But Fred was an encyclopedia of available mountains 483 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,272 that hadn't been climbed. 484 00:24:36,075 --> 00:24:37,577 I was just out of the navy. 485 00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:40,312 And Fred called me, "Everything is all set. 486 00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:42,715 we got lots of food up on the glacier. 487 00:24:42,749 --> 00:24:44,784 Come up to Wrangell, Alaska. 488 00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:47,053 And I'll meet you and we'll go up to Stikine River, 489 00:24:47,086 --> 00:24:49,221 and make this climb." 490 00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:52,692 Typical Fred enthusiasm and not very much more detail than that. 491 00:24:52,725 --> 00:24:54,426 [Fred] He and Schmidtke said 492 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:57,463 they had agreed to come up in about a week the next boat. 493 00:24:58,531 --> 00:25:00,967 Several parties had tried Kate's Needle, 494 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,102 But nobody has tried Devil's Thumb. 495 00:25:03,135 --> 00:25:07,339 Waiting out the weather, we eventually climbed Kate's Needle. 496 00:25:07,373 --> 00:25:09,008 [Bob] We made three attempts 497 00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:11,644 on Devil's Thumb, and had to retreat twice, 498 00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:15,948 and on the third attempt, we got to the summit. 499 00:25:17,249 --> 00:25:20,252 And we were running out of food down at our camp. 500 00:25:20,286 --> 00:25:23,355 We're cooking some of the last remaining food we had, 501 00:25:23,389 --> 00:25:27,059 and Fred handed me this bag, which I thought were beans. 502 00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:30,597 I poured it into the pan, and we melted some snow and 503 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:32,599 I suddenly looked at him, 504 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:35,401 I said, "Fred these beans 505 00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:38,137 don't have anything in them except maggots. 506 00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:39,706 Where did this come from?" 507 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:44,010 He said, "Well, Helmy and I had it on Waddington." [laughs] 508 00:25:44,043 --> 00:25:50,516 So, we ate this stew of beans and maggots. 509 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,185 We were pretty hungry at that point. 510 00:25:55,588 --> 00:25:58,290 [music playing] 511 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:41,701 [Sybil Goman] Fred was lively and addictive, and very outgoing. 512 00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:43,736 There's some sort of magnetism there. 513 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:45,471 [Alex] He burned through women 514 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:49,308 like a gypsy went through horses. 515 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:52,111 [Yvon] He has a real soft place 516 00:26:52,144 --> 00:26:54,213 in his heart for tall, dirty blondes. 517 00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:55,782 [Bob] There's a certain kind of girl 518 00:26:55,815 --> 00:26:59,185 that frequented roller skating rinks, 519 00:26:59,218 --> 00:27:01,053 Roller Dames, 520 00:27:01,087 --> 00:27:03,723 Rink Rats. 521 00:27:03,756 --> 00:27:07,393 [Jim] I know guys that wouldn't introduce him to their women 522 00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:10,429 or let him stay in their homes. 523 00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:12,164 [Don] Beware of Beckey: 524 00:27:12,198 --> 00:27:14,200 he'll steal your women, he'll steal your climbs. 525 00:27:15,034 --> 00:27:18,270 -[Dave] Is that true, you think? -[Alice Liska] Oh, yeah. 526 00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:20,472 [Jim] He's had a lot of girlfriends. 527 00:27:20,506 --> 00:27:23,375 And he does it with the same tenacious quality 528 00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:25,444 that he does his climbing. 529 00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:31,751 [Alex] He met this very attractive woman 530 00:27:31,784 --> 00:27:34,253 by the name of Vasiliki, 531 00:27:34,286 --> 00:27:35,755 skiing at Stevens Pass. 532 00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:38,390 And they hit it off. 533 00:27:38,424 --> 00:27:40,159 [Fred] Vasiliki was her name. 534 00:27:40,192 --> 00:27:41,360 She actually called herself Betty. 535 00:27:41,393 --> 00:27:44,296 She came from a Greek background. 536 00:27:46,332 --> 00:27:50,837 [Alex] Fred named a series of rock spires, 537 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:56,709 not only after her, but also after her favorite drinks. 538 00:27:56,743 --> 00:27:58,177 [Vasiliki] It's an honor, I guess. 539 00:27:58,210 --> 00:28:00,146 He put me on the map. What can I say? 540 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:01,513 That's wonderful. 541 00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:06,385 This has been over 50 years now that people have said, 542 00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:08,721 "Are you the Vasiliki?" "Yes." 543 00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:10,489 "Well, I've climbed you." 544 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,291 And I say, "Oh, OK." 545 00:28:12,324 --> 00:28:15,261 [Timothy] When I asked him about that, his face was startled. 546 00:28:15,294 --> 00:28:17,696 and it was like I caught him in something. 547 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,398 He goes, "How do you know about her?" 548 00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:23,135 She was the one, the one great love of his life. 549 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:24,636 It turns out she marries 550 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:27,039 one of the most famous people in the Northwest, 551 00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,675 Bill Dwyer, a federal judge. 552 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:32,544 Vasiliki chose the judge instead of the dirtbag climber. 553 00:28:32,578 --> 00:28:35,014 But, I guess you can't blame her. 554 00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:37,449 Maybe it's a good thing that she turned him down 555 00:28:37,483 --> 00:28:39,551 because Fred would have actually gone for it 556 00:28:39,585 --> 00:28:42,088 and not kept climbing cutting-edge routes 557 00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:43,790 for another 50 years. 558 00:28:43,823 --> 00:28:45,792 [Vasiliki] He was a very interesting man to me 559 00:28:45,825 --> 00:28:49,028 not because he was a mountain man, 560 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,397 but because he was so well read 561 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:54,600 and he used to give me old books of poetry, 562 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:58,337 he was a different sort of creature. 563 00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:00,472 He moved more than a gypsy, I think. 564 00:29:00,506 --> 00:29:03,742 He was just gone, but he's come back to write. 565 00:29:03,776 --> 00:29:07,513 I liked that sense of freedom to go. 566 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:09,348 He was not free from his passion, 567 00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:12,084 but he was free from everyday things 568 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:15,387 that the rest of the people are involved in. 569 00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:20,459 And he just was driven to this way of life. 570 00:29:22,294 --> 00:29:23,762 [Todd] Do you think you'll ever get married? 571 00:29:23,796 --> 00:29:25,164 [Fred] I think I... yeah, sometime I should. 572 00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:26,799 I should try it out. Yeah. 573 00:29:26,833 --> 00:29:29,101 -[Todd] What would be the perfect-- -[Fred] I don't know. 574 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:32,171 [music playing] 575 00:29:33,873 --> 00:29:35,674 I am the daughter of Scottie, 576 00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:39,245 who was a girlfriend of Fred's for several years. 577 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,647 Probably around '49 to '52. 578 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,784 In 1950, they went on a trip to Europe together. 579 00:29:45,818 --> 00:29:51,223 My mother said she was gonna go skiing and ran off to France. 580 00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:55,461 And then at some point, 581 00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:58,730 Fred came back and my mom stayed on. 582 00:29:58,764 --> 00:30:02,234 When they broke up, my mom and Fred went to the court 583 00:30:02,268 --> 00:30:04,603 to separate their personal items, 584 00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,606 So who knows, you know, did they elope? 585 00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:11,543 This is probably the most significant relationship in her life 586 00:30:11,577 --> 00:30:13,512 before she met my dad. 587 00:30:22,388 --> 00:30:26,325 Even years later after my mom was married to my dad, 588 00:30:26,358 --> 00:30:27,559 Fred would call sometimes 589 00:30:27,593 --> 00:30:30,596 and try to get her to run off with him. 590 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:42,174 [Eric] Yeah, he always had women in his life. 591 00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:45,377 Rarely had the same one for a very long time. 592 00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:48,480 Sybil was one of the exceptions. 593 00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:52,251 [Sybil] He invited me to go on lots of climbs and just hang around basecamp, 594 00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:53,719 which, with Fred, a weeklong trip 595 00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:55,787 would usually morph into three months. 596 00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:58,557 Now some things that people don't know about Fred 597 00:30:58,590 --> 00:31:01,994 is he likes opera, he likes libraries. 598 00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:08,367 Fred did have some tenderness and romanticness in him. 599 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,636 Everybody knows Fred has a strong personality 600 00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:15,274 and consequently we had a lot of fireworks and a lot of sparks. 601 00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:18,610 We just, kind of, drifted apart and back together, and apart. 602 00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:21,480 I think what he wanted was a satisfying playmate. 603 00:31:21,513 --> 00:31:23,282 [Alex] A good number of years, 604 00:31:23,315 --> 00:31:25,051 he was living in my townhouse. 605 00:31:25,084 --> 00:31:28,454 Quite often he would bring lady friends over, 606 00:31:28,487 --> 00:31:32,524 and I could hear Fred talking 607 00:31:32,558 --> 00:31:36,362 about the most personal issues in his life, 608 00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:38,130 which he would never 609 00:31:38,164 --> 00:31:41,667 think of doing with his best friends. 610 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:46,572 Here was this very secretive and reclusive legend 611 00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:49,708 who was opening up his innermost feelings 612 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:51,210 to these women 613 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:53,512 that he's only gonna see for a few days, 614 00:31:53,545 --> 00:31:56,415 I wish some of those women would have had tape recorder 615 00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:57,716 and just recorded it 616 00:31:57,749 --> 00:32:00,152 because it would have made interesting reading. 617 00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:15,134 [beep] 618 00:32:29,381 --> 00:32:32,118 You guys go ahead, if you want to. 619 00:32:44,196 --> 00:32:46,365 I gotta get some water. 620 00:32:46,398 --> 00:32:50,036 I don't why you're taking movies, I'm just climbing like shit. 621 00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:59,811 [Ed Cooper] All climbers know about his climbing accomplishments, 622 00:32:59,845 --> 00:33:04,450 and he's probably made more first ascents in North America 623 00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:07,586 than any other climber ever will. 624 00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:09,621 But there's another side to Fred 625 00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:12,258 that I think is very interesting, 626 00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:17,063 and that is that he is a scholar. 627 00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:20,066 He must have spent thousands of hours 628 00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:22,068 in libraries researching, 629 00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:23,769 even a college professor 630 00:33:23,802 --> 00:33:28,774 could hardly get out that amount of work in a lifetime. 631 00:33:28,807 --> 00:33:31,243 [Layton] Well, every time somebody opens up a guidebook 632 00:33:31,277 --> 00:33:33,445 in an area where Beckey's climbed, 633 00:33:33,479 --> 00:33:35,981 they're gonna be following his footsteps, whether they like it or not. 634 00:33:36,815 --> 00:33:38,750 [Ed Viesturs] Beckey's Cascade Alpine Guides, 635 00:33:38,784 --> 00:33:40,219 that was like our Bible. 636 00:33:40,252 --> 00:33:42,521 Every week we'd pick out something, 637 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:44,390 where we wanted to go, what we wanted to climb, 638 00:33:44,423 --> 00:33:46,158 and we'd have Beckey's book with us 639 00:33:46,192 --> 00:33:47,693 and we'd memorize what he said, 640 00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:49,728 you know, very detailed information 641 00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:51,630 about not only how to get there, 642 00:33:51,663 --> 00:33:54,533 what moves to make, what equipment to bring, 643 00:33:54,566 --> 00:33:58,204 how long it would take, the attention to detail was amazing, 644 00:33:58,237 --> 00:34:00,606 and the fact that he did most of the climbs 645 00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:02,608 that he wrote about is even more amazing. 646 00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:06,044 [Jim] The guy knows more about the mountains of North America 647 00:34:06,078 --> 00:34:07,346 than anyone that's ever lived. 648 00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:09,215 You can't go climbing with Fred Beckey 649 00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:11,683 without Fred having a piece of paper 650 00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:13,252 shoved into his pocket 651 00:34:13,285 --> 00:34:15,187 and some pens taped around his neck 652 00:34:15,221 --> 00:34:16,622 on, like, a piece of string. 653 00:34:16,655 --> 00:34:18,957 Sometimes, the most inopportune times, 654 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:20,892 you hear him shout, "Hold on a second!" 655 00:34:20,926 --> 00:34:22,694 And you look down and he's in the middle of a pitch, 656 00:34:22,728 --> 00:34:26,265 like, scribbling notes about some obscure section 657 00:34:26,298 --> 00:34:28,534 of, like, an obscure pitch. 658 00:34:28,567 --> 00:34:29,768 [Fred] Kind of a big ledge. 659 00:34:29,801 --> 00:34:33,071 Trees going right. What are these? Mahoganies? 660 00:34:33,105 --> 00:34:35,174 -We got three bolts up there? -[Todd] Yep, three bolts. 661 00:34:35,207 --> 00:34:36,608 [Corey] He's like a mad scientist. 662 00:34:36,642 --> 00:34:38,410 He doesn't know what he's wearing. 663 00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:40,579 He doesn't care if there's stains on his clothes. 664 00:34:40,612 --> 00:34:43,782 Fred has one focus, which is climbing and documenting 665 00:34:43,815 --> 00:34:45,484 climbing through his topos. 666 00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:47,619 [Fred] Went out here, to kind of, like a little ramp. 667 00:34:47,653 --> 00:34:49,221 -Yep. -There's a block and you step. 668 00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:51,157 -Yup. -I still remember that. 669 00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:52,791 -I stuck here and you went up there. -[Todd] Yep. 670 00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:54,593 -OK. -[Todd] Either one is, bomber. 671 00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:56,094 OK. Either one and 155-foot pitch. 672 00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:58,664 [Corey] And he has all of those notes cataloged 673 00:34:58,697 --> 00:35:00,266 in the Fred Beckey way, 674 00:35:00,299 --> 00:35:03,068 shoved into closets and shoe-boxes 675 00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:05,737 and FedEx envelopes in his house. 676 00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:08,307 [Fred] I got about 90 topos at home of different routes. 677 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:09,941 And I got 'em all glued together 678 00:35:09,975 --> 00:35:12,544 so I can carry 'em around and show 'em to people. 679 00:35:12,578 --> 00:35:16,182 And I got it 'em all organized by state, or area, you know. 680 00:35:16,215 --> 00:35:17,516 Whatever. 681 00:35:17,549 --> 00:35:19,017 [Corey] The amount of data that, you know, 682 00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:21,052 it's almost like Fred Beckey, the super computer. 683 00:35:21,086 --> 00:35:23,422 If there was an encyclopedia of climbing, 684 00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:26,525 it's, really, it's inside of his head. 685 00:35:26,558 --> 00:35:28,427 OK, go up this crack, 686 00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:30,296 about 20 feet, you'll see it. 687 00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:32,931 And cut out to the right. It's very obvious. 688 00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:34,600 You look up there, you'll see a giant horn, 689 00:35:34,633 --> 00:35:37,403 looks like a dog head. You know. 690 00:35:37,436 --> 00:35:41,707 Cut the right, you'll see the gully, you can't miss it. 691 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,509 You'll have fun. 692 00:35:43,542 --> 00:35:46,612 [Dave] So did you ever study writing techniques? Or did you-- 693 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:48,280 [Fred] No, believe it or not, I never did. 694 00:35:48,314 --> 00:35:51,783 -[Dave] Really? -[Fred] Never took a fucking course. 695 00:35:51,817 --> 00:35:56,288 I think taking a writing course would have just fucked me up totally. 696 00:36:04,563 --> 00:36:07,466 [Timothy] He chained himself to a desk at the Oregon Historical Society 697 00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:09,368 trying to produce this greater book 698 00:36:09,401 --> 00:36:11,069 about the history of the Cascades. 699 00:36:13,339 --> 00:36:14,773 [Fred] I was all over-- 700 00:36:14,806 --> 00:36:17,042 National Archives, you name it. 701 00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:20,212 Practically every research library on the East Coast. 702 00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:22,348 I should've had a girlfriend, hanging around with me 703 00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:24,383 to keep me company doing all of this stuff. 704 00:36:24,416 --> 00:36:27,819 [Fred] Did Range of Glaciers do okay? 705 00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:30,155 [Fred] Not money-wise, not for me. 706 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:33,225 The money has never been very good. 707 00:36:33,259 --> 00:36:35,361 It should've been. 708 00:36:35,394 --> 00:36:38,163 I blame... I don't know who to blame. 709 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:39,965 The public, 710 00:36:39,998 --> 00:36:41,199 the Internet 711 00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:43,001 The books that are really selling 712 00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:44,169 are these self-help books. 713 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,504 Dr. Phil... 714 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,273 I am OK, you're OK, 715 00:36:47,306 --> 00:36:50,041 you're not OK, I am OK, you're an idiot. 716 00:36:50,075 --> 00:36:52,478 You know, how to improve yourself. 717 00:36:52,511 --> 00:36:56,014 How to increase your sensibilities, 718 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:58,484 how to make love, how to make this, 719 00:36:58,517 --> 00:37:00,018 how to do that. 720 00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:04,856 There's whole shelves of 'em in Seattle, I looked at, 721 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,459 a whole eight feet high, that wide. 722 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,629 Self-help psychology... 723 00:37:10,662 --> 00:37:12,764 How to improve this... how to improve... 724 00:37:12,798 --> 00:37:14,400 Jesus Christ! 725 00:37:14,433 --> 00:37:17,168 There must be a lot of people that are insecure. 726 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:19,338 There must be. It's not my kinda thing. 727 00:37:19,371 --> 00:37:20,606 You know, not at all. 728 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,209 But, I mean, I'm not knocking it, great. 729 00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,111 Good for Dr. Phil. 730 00:37:26,144 --> 00:37:29,781 He's probably making $10 million a year on that stuff, but... 731 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:41,293 [Fred] I'm trying to put together a bit of a hybrid, 732 00:37:41,327 --> 00:37:45,564 to kinda, portray the mountain or the route, access, 733 00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:47,899 route description, summary, 734 00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:50,302 picture, map, topo. 735 00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:53,505 All my friends say it will go over. 736 00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:57,242 But they're my friends, so I'm not sure I trust them, you know? 737 00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:05,384 Originally, I had in mind, the name 738 00:38:05,417 --> 00:38:07,085 100 Classic Climbs, 739 00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:09,321 That was the first idea and somewhere 740 00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:11,222 the last couple of years, I went bonkers 741 00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:12,658 and forgot all about the numbers 742 00:38:12,691 --> 00:38:14,560 and just kept writing and writing, 743 00:38:14,593 --> 00:38:19,264 and the last time, I have a list of the climbs, 744 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:21,032 I counted 137. 745 00:38:21,066 --> 00:38:22,701 Can you believe it? 746 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:25,170 There was four climbs when we started with him 747 00:38:25,203 --> 00:38:27,038 that he still hadn't been able to do, 748 00:38:27,072 --> 00:38:29,040 but he wanted to put in anyway, 'cause they're such classics. 749 00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:34,713 [Fred] I feel very strongly that I want to have done each of these climbs 750 00:38:34,746 --> 00:38:37,215 or made a good solid attempt on it. 751 00:38:37,248 --> 00:38:39,250 Tentatively, I've included them. 752 00:38:39,284 --> 00:38:42,354 In fact, that's one reason I can't really finish this thing 753 00:38:42,388 --> 00:38:45,824 until the fall, as far as totally finishing it. 754 00:38:45,857 --> 00:38:47,426 Just as an explanation, 755 00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:49,995 and part of this is my idiosyncrasies 756 00:38:50,028 --> 00:38:52,598 involved in it too, I admit that. 757 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,238 [Fred] I'd like to do Assiniboine 758 00:39:00,271 --> 00:39:01,573 It's not a hard climb, but it's interesting, 759 00:39:01,607 --> 00:39:04,543 and kind of a big, high mountain. 760 00:39:04,576 --> 00:39:06,912 [Don] With a character like Beckey, 761 00:39:06,945 --> 00:39:09,147 going back becomes almost a routine, 762 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,682 it almost becomes expected. 763 00:39:10,716 --> 00:39:12,317 Well, if I miss it today, 764 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,853 I'll go back tomorrow, or next year, 765 00:39:14,886 --> 00:39:16,354 [beep] 766 00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:19,024 [Fred] I wanted to jump you into going to Assiniboine. 767 00:39:19,057 --> 00:39:21,159 Its dry now. Excellent conditions. 768 00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:22,428 The weather is good. 769 00:39:22,461 --> 00:39:23,662 This is the optimum time to do it. 770 00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,597 Let's get going on this. 771 00:39:25,631 --> 00:39:28,233 [Jim] He'd go back, and he'd go back, and he'd go back, 772 00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:31,102 and damn it, eventually he'd get it done. 773 00:39:38,644 --> 00:39:40,646 [beep] 774 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,649 [Fred] We're going up to Mt. Monarch, near Waddington. 775 00:39:43,682 --> 00:39:45,651 Hell of a mountain. Be a great place to do some filming. 776 00:39:45,684 --> 00:39:47,352 [beep] 777 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:50,021 It's the most important trip of the summer for me. 778 00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:53,358 -I want to be sure it does not fail. -[beep] 779 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:56,227 I realize this is almost impossible short notice, 780 00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:58,296 but I've done stuff like that before, 781 00:39:58,329 --> 00:40:02,333 Just jump on an airplane, "To hell with it all," and just get out. 782 00:40:05,003 --> 00:40:07,338 [Barry] A lot of mountain climbing and alpinism 783 00:40:07,372 --> 00:40:08,674 is mastering the art of suffering, 784 00:40:08,707 --> 00:40:10,275 and a lot of it is, 785 00:40:10,308 --> 00:40:12,611 torturous, laborious, physical work. 786 00:40:12,644 --> 00:40:15,647 I mean, it's hard and it's uncomfortable, and you're cold, 787 00:40:15,681 --> 00:40:19,451 and you're hungry and you're wet. 788 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,187 For a guy like Fred, 789 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:24,556 I am sure within his first decade, 790 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:27,959 realized that he was in love with the process. 791 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,502 [Ed Cooper] Fred really enjoyed the mountains, 792 00:40:36,535 --> 00:40:41,072 more than just, let's say, making a first ascent or something. 793 00:40:41,106 --> 00:40:44,242 He truly loved being out there. 794 00:40:46,578 --> 00:40:50,015 [Don] Fred Beckey is, in my opinion, a poetic genius. 795 00:40:50,048 --> 00:40:52,751 Where the poetry is the beauty and wildness 796 00:40:52,784 --> 00:40:57,823 of unchanging nature and the challenge of the heights. 797 00:40:59,591 --> 00:41:03,161 [Fred] It's hard to describe, for me anyway... 798 00:41:03,194 --> 00:41:05,764 You might call it a sense of awe, a sense of amazement, 799 00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:09,367 a sense of just a different view than you get from the valley. 800 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,270 And it's a very temporal one, obviously 801 00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:16,374 because you're not gonna be there very long. 802 00:41:16,407 --> 00:41:19,044 You know, most city sports, like take football, 803 00:41:19,077 --> 00:41:22,614 you can quit, and if you're pooped out, off you go. 804 00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:24,783 But in climbing, you're in the middle of a wall somewhere, 805 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:28,386 and the weather's coming in, you got a lot of commitment. 806 00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:32,691 To me, there is endless beauty involved in these things 807 00:41:32,724 --> 00:41:36,995 and depending on the conditions and the weather and times 808 00:41:37,028 --> 00:41:38,697 it's changeable all the time. 809 00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:44,570 I think there is a certain satisfaction that builds up naturally, 810 00:41:44,603 --> 00:41:47,038 it may even compare to winning a ball game. 811 00:41:47,072 --> 00:41:49,340 There's a good feeling about it. 812 00:41:49,374 --> 00:41:51,543 Different than going to work everyday, you don't feel any better 813 00:41:51,577 --> 00:41:54,112 after the end of the day. At least I don't. 814 00:41:56,715 --> 00:41:59,384 [Timothy] One of the things that Beckey is really bad at 815 00:41:59,417 --> 00:42:02,053 and this is to me, a virtue. 816 00:42:02,087 --> 00:42:05,056 He lacks self-promotion. 817 00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:08,459 Other people would have, not only entire lines of gear 818 00:42:08,493 --> 00:42:12,731 with their name on it, he would be a household name. 819 00:42:12,764 --> 00:42:16,635 [Alex] He had opportunities to endorse products 820 00:42:16,668 --> 00:42:20,271 and be on the back page of every climbing magazine, 821 00:42:20,305 --> 00:42:25,110 he never followed that opportunity. 822 00:42:25,143 --> 00:42:30,649 Because that would compromise his real ambition, and that was climbing. 823 00:42:30,682 --> 00:42:33,484 In other words, he was not for sale. 824 00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:37,589 [music playing] 825 00:42:50,468 --> 00:42:54,640 In his prime he was the consummate all-around climber. 826 00:42:54,673 --> 00:43:00,145 He could climb rock as good as anybody, if not, better. 827 00:43:00,178 --> 00:43:03,782 [Steve] I've known a lot of climbers but he was singular 828 00:43:03,815 --> 00:43:07,152 and he had this drive that was like 829 00:43:07,185 --> 00:43:10,622 the whole universe is coming down in a spiral at that point. 830 00:43:10,656 --> 00:43:13,158 And that's Fred. 831 00:43:28,573 --> 00:43:32,277 [vintage narrator] Fred Beckey, climbing leader of the party. At 30, 832 00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:35,246 one of America's foremost mountaineers. 833 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,684 [Conrad] A year after the first ascent of Everest in 1954, 834 00:43:38,717 --> 00:43:40,786 Fred Beckey did the All-Star, 835 00:43:40,819 --> 00:43:44,489 Grand Slam, Super Bowl, World Series, Stanley Cup, 836 00:43:44,522 --> 00:43:48,126 all wrapped into one season in the Alaska Range. 837 00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:49,594 First ascent of Mt. Deborah, 838 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:52,330 first ascent of northwest buttress of Denali, 839 00:43:52,363 --> 00:43:54,632 pretty challenging routes, seldomly climbed now 840 00:43:54,666 --> 00:43:57,368 and then the first ascent of Mt. Hunter. 841 00:43:57,402 --> 00:43:59,037 [vintage narrator] Seventy miles of pack out 842 00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:01,406 after climbing a mountain, but they're all smiling. 843 00:44:01,439 --> 00:44:04,009 They've nearly won. 844 00:44:04,042 --> 00:44:06,377 Behind them is the summit of the north face of Mt. McKinley. 845 00:44:06,411 --> 00:44:09,647 Twenty thousand feet of Arctic mountain climbed, 846 00:44:09,681 --> 00:44:12,650 a mountain beaten. 847 00:44:12,684 --> 00:44:16,021 [Conrad] Whenever I think about, "Oh, how badass am I right now?" 848 00:44:16,054 --> 00:44:19,390 It's like, "I'm soft, I'm light compared to Fred in '54"" 849 00:44:19,424 --> 00:44:22,227 [Interviewer] If you were to be remembered by a single climb 850 00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:24,362 the most important or most significant climb 851 00:44:24,395 --> 00:44:26,998 that you've done, what would it be? 852 00:44:27,032 --> 00:44:28,666 [Fred] Probably Mount Deborah. 853 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:31,136 it's the one that scared us the most. 854 00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:34,005 [Henry Meybohm] I had heard about Fred Beckey before 855 00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:37,408 and then I had the chance to climb with Fred Beckey. 856 00:44:37,442 --> 00:44:38,476 Really? 857 00:44:38,509 --> 00:44:39,811 Yeah! 858 00:44:43,114 --> 00:44:46,517 [Henry] When you are in Europe and you climb in the Alps, 859 00:44:46,551 --> 00:44:50,388 whatever you do has been done a few hundred times before. 860 00:44:50,421 --> 00:44:53,658 And when I was in Alaska I heard about 861 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,561 unclimbed mountains. 862 00:44:59,330 --> 00:45:00,966 Huh? Okay, let's try! 863 00:45:00,999 --> 00:45:03,668 [Fred] Heinrich Harrer had heard that we were up there 864 00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:06,371 climbing on McKinley, and we just sort of 865 00:45:06,404 --> 00:45:10,175 met up near Fairbanks, and we just joined forces. 866 00:45:22,353 --> 00:45:24,155 [Layton] First ascents, you never know. 867 00:45:24,189 --> 00:45:25,523 There are all these mysteries and, 868 00:45:25,556 --> 00:45:27,692 you know, what's gonna happen up there? 869 00:45:27,725 --> 00:45:29,627 How difficult is it gonna be? 870 00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:32,030 You know, a lot of unknowns. 871 00:45:44,542 --> 00:45:46,778 [Colin] You don't know exactly what equipment you'll need 872 00:45:46,812 --> 00:45:49,214 you don't know where the difficulties will be, 873 00:45:49,247 --> 00:45:50,581 how hard it will be, 874 00:45:50,615 --> 00:45:52,050 what the descent will be like, 875 00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:57,022 and first ascents are coveted because of that. 876 00:45:57,055 --> 00:45:59,257 [music playing] 877 00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:30,521 [Jim] To do that in 1954 given the state 878 00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:32,490 of the equipment that people had then, 879 00:46:32,523 --> 00:46:35,293 given the methods that you would use to get there 880 00:46:35,326 --> 00:46:37,495 because this is, you know, remote wilderness, 881 00:46:37,528 --> 00:46:40,731 And the body of knowledge then, I mean, that's phenomenal. 882 00:47:26,511 --> 00:47:29,614 [Steve Gunn] * You were lost 883 00:47:29,647 --> 00:47:33,851 * On the road from a different way * 884 00:47:33,885 --> 00:47:37,322 * Pushed too far 885 00:47:37,355 --> 00:47:39,925 * Miles away 886 00:47:39,958 --> 00:47:42,460 [Alex] In 1963, when the American Everest expedition 887 00:47:42,493 --> 00:47:45,463 went to the Himalayas, Fred Beckey 888 00:47:45,496 --> 00:47:49,734 was undoubtedly the foremost climber in America. 889 00:47:49,767 --> 00:47:51,302 [Jim] And Norman, 890 00:47:51,336 --> 00:47:54,005 when he was choosing the Everest group, 891 00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:55,573 deliberately passed over Fred 892 00:47:55,606 --> 00:47:58,776 on the theory that Fred didn't play well with others. 893 00:47:58,809 --> 00:48:03,548 [Norman Dyhrenfurth] In '63 he applied. I said, "Fred... 894 00:48:03,581 --> 00:48:05,083 no." 895 00:48:05,116 --> 00:48:07,618 [Tom Hornbein] It was felt that Fred 896 00:48:07,652 --> 00:48:10,088 was not as much of a team player, 897 00:48:10,121 --> 00:48:12,557 and I sensed that some of that came 898 00:48:12,590 --> 00:48:18,696 from what happened on that Lhotse expedition. 899 00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:23,601 [Norman] In 1955, I finally got the permission for Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain 900 00:48:23,634 --> 00:48:25,503 right next to Everest. 901 00:48:25,536 --> 00:48:27,572 I had... 902 00:48:27,605 --> 00:48:30,041 two Swiss, one doctor, 903 00:48:30,075 --> 00:48:32,177 and I had three Americans 904 00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:34,645 and Fred Beckey was one of them. 905 00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:39,350 I knew his reputation, and I'd read in the American Alpine Journal 906 00:48:39,384 --> 00:48:42,053 and I knew that he was a good climber, yes. 907 00:48:42,087 --> 00:48:44,155 But I also knew that... 908 00:48:44,189 --> 00:48:47,625 he had never been invited on an expedition. 909 00:48:47,658 --> 00:48:50,495 [Ed Viesturs] There's some compromises that you have to accept 910 00:48:50,528 --> 00:48:53,098 when you go on a Himalayan expedition with a big team. 911 00:48:53,131 --> 00:48:56,367 You gotta accept that I might not get a chance to go to the top 912 00:48:56,401 --> 00:48:59,470 I've got to be a team player, I've got to contribute. 913 00:49:01,006 --> 00:49:02,540 He didn't... 914 00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:05,010 hit it off too well with the others, 915 00:49:05,043 --> 00:49:07,045 there were Austrians and Swiss. 916 00:49:07,078 --> 00:49:10,148 The Europeans called him the "prolete," 917 00:49:10,181 --> 00:49:12,417 which means proletarian. [chuckles] 918 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:15,386 He was a likable guy, he was a good climber. 919 00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:16,721 He meant well... 920 00:49:16,754 --> 00:49:19,224 but he didn't always do the right thing. 921 00:49:19,257 --> 00:49:23,995 And he left our doctor at our high camp. 922 00:49:24,029 --> 00:49:27,132 [Fred] I was in a tent with Bruno Spirig, he was a doctor, 923 00:49:27,165 --> 00:49:28,333 he was a Swiss climber. 924 00:49:28,366 --> 00:49:31,202 We were camped at roughly 23,000 feet. 925 00:49:31,236 --> 00:49:33,704 Wind picked up, it was really a bad storm, 926 00:49:33,738 --> 00:49:36,374 the wind just tore that tent apart. 927 00:49:36,407 --> 00:49:40,078 And Spirig started feeling bad. 928 00:49:40,111 --> 00:49:42,080 Some of the party were camped 929 00:49:42,113 --> 00:49:45,383 I'd say about 1,500 vertical feet below us, 930 00:49:45,416 --> 00:49:46,517 and... 931 00:49:46,551 --> 00:49:50,388 there was a choice, what was I gonna do? 932 00:49:50,421 --> 00:49:53,658 [Norman] He left him alone and came down to Advance Base 933 00:49:53,691 --> 00:49:58,496 and everybody was aghast and said, "Why did you leave him alone?" 934 00:49:58,529 --> 00:50:02,067 He says, "Well" He didn't even have a sleeping bag. 935 00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,535 Sure, I could have stayed there, but what could I do for him? 936 00:50:04,569 --> 00:50:06,237 We had no radio communication, 937 00:50:06,271 --> 00:50:08,706 I felt the best thing to do was to go down to get help. 938 00:50:08,739 --> 00:50:10,575 Help might've come up that day 939 00:50:10,608 --> 00:50:13,144 or the next day, but who knows? 940 00:50:13,178 --> 00:50:14,679 I felt it was more urgent, 941 00:50:14,712 --> 00:50:16,914 and the best policy was to go down to get help 942 00:50:16,947 --> 00:50:19,217 and then come back, and I came back up with them. 943 00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:23,154 [Norman] The next morning, I went up with my friend Angobar 944 00:50:23,188 --> 00:50:26,057 and Fred Beckey, and the three of us went up 945 00:50:26,091 --> 00:50:28,359 and we got him down, the doctor. 946 00:50:28,393 --> 00:50:30,461 But ever since they couldn't figure out74901

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