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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,700 --> 00:00:13,008 We learned overnight 2 00:00:13,032 --> 00:00:15,478 that at least three U. S. Special Forces 3 00:00:15,502 --> 00:00:18,938 were killed in an ambush in the African country of Niger. 4 00:00:18,962 --> 00:00:21,538 Officials say a joint U. S. Nigerien patrol 5 00:00:21,562 --> 00:00:24,838 was ambushed by suspected Islamic militants 6 00:00:24,862 --> 00:00:26,038 near the Mali border. 7 00:00:26,062 --> 00:00:27,178 The names 8 00:00:27,202 --> 00:00:28,478 of the American Special Forces soldiers 9 00:00:28,502 --> 00:00:29,638 is being withheld, 10 00:00:29,662 --> 00:00:32,002 subject to next-of-kin notifications. 11 00:00:33,802 --> 00:00:36,338 You must not draw 12 00:00:36,362 --> 00:00:40,808 until that clock makes the first chime of the hour. 13 00:00:40,832 --> 00:00:44,678 Once that happens, you may fire at your convenience. 14 00:00:44,702 --> 00:00:46,008 I was sitting here watching TV. 15 00:00:46,032 --> 00:00:48,778 It was like 10:30 at night, 16 00:00:48,802 --> 00:00:51,502 and somebody knocked on the door. 17 00:00:53,032 --> 00:00:54,638 I didn't know who it was, so I got up 18 00:00:54,662 --> 00:00:57,838 and I went to the door and I opened the door. 19 00:00:57,862 --> 00:01:01,338 And I want to say it was a captain and a master sergeant. 20 00:01:01,362 --> 00:01:04,478 They were in dress blues, and I knew. 21 00:01:04,502 --> 00:01:06,862 I just said, "No, no, no." 22 00:01:12,302 --> 00:01:14,808 I mean, I just knew because they don't show up 23 00:01:14,832 --> 00:01:18,902 at 10:30 at night unless he's dead. 24 00:01:32,632 --> 00:01:35,108 "Attached for your review and action, 25 00:01:35,132 --> 00:01:39,108 this US-AFRICOM's completed investigation conducted..." 26 00:01:39,132 --> 00:01:42,278 "...pursuant to Army Regulation 15.6..." 27 00:01:42,302 --> 00:01:44,838 "...and to the facts and circumstances surrounding..." 28 00:01:44,862 --> 00:01:47,138 "...the enemy contact event that occurred..." 29 00:01:47,162 --> 00:01:50,338 "...on 4 October 2017..." 30 00:01:50,362 --> 00:01:52,602 "...in Tongo Tongo, Niger." 31 00:03:29,362 --> 00:03:33,208 My first thought was "What the hell happened?" 32 00:03:33,232 --> 00:03:36,278 And it was like I got shot or something. 33 00:03:36,302 --> 00:03:40,308 I mean, it was like my insides just went empty. 34 00:03:40,332 --> 00:03:42,402 I almost fell down. 35 00:03:43,532 --> 00:03:47,238 The master sergeant, he said, "You're number one on the list. 36 00:03:47,262 --> 00:03:49,032 Number two is Will." 37 00:03:51,962 --> 00:03:54,362 And so I came to Will's house. 38 00:03:56,062 --> 00:03:57,778 At about 11:30 that night, 39 00:03:57,802 --> 00:03:59,378 two officers showed up, 40 00:03:59,402 --> 00:04:02,508 and, uh, they told me, 41 00:04:02,532 --> 00:04:05,508 "On behalf of a grateful nation, we regret to inform you 42 00:04:05,532 --> 00:04:07,462 that your brother has been killed in action." 43 00:04:13,932 --> 00:04:15,538 And then Will drove all the way to Brunswick, 44 00:04:15,562 --> 00:04:18,502 which is about 90 miles away, to tell Dustin's mom. 45 00:04:23,232 --> 00:04:25,802 It was the worst day of my life. 46 00:04:30,232 --> 00:04:34,138 Opening that door and seeing Will 47 00:04:34,162 --> 00:04:38,778 and Mandy and my mom and my sister standing there. 48 00:04:38,802 --> 00:04:41,878 And in that instant, 49 00:04:41,902 --> 00:04:45,738 I knew that something was wrong. 50 00:04:45,762 --> 00:04:49,402 But it took me a minute to get it. 51 00:04:54,032 --> 00:04:55,538 It really took me a minute. 52 00:04:55,562 --> 00:04:57,532 All I can say is, "No." 53 00:04:59,562 --> 00:05:01,462 "No." 54 00:05:14,932 --> 00:05:17,508 Tonight, we are getting no details 55 00:05:17,532 --> 00:05:18,838 beyond this statement 56 00:05:18,862 --> 00:05:21,808 that U. S. Forces have come under hostile fire 57 00:05:21,832 --> 00:05:26,878 in this area of southwest Niger near the border with Mali. 58 00:05:26,902 --> 00:05:28,708 They are not offering any other details. 59 00:05:28,732 --> 00:05:30,108 We will stay on this story... 60 00:05:30,132 --> 00:05:33,678 I had come home from work and sat down in the living room, 61 00:05:33,702 --> 00:05:36,538 kind of do, you know, the little relaxing kind of thing 62 00:05:36,562 --> 00:05:38,008 and check the news. 63 00:05:38,032 --> 00:05:39,908 And while I was on my phone, 64 00:05:39,932 --> 00:05:42,078 a little news alert popped in 65 00:05:42,102 --> 00:05:46,408 that there was an incident that, um, had just happened in Nigeria 66 00:05:46,432 --> 00:05:48,778 along the Mali border. 67 00:05:48,802 --> 00:05:51,278 And it was like, "Uh-oh," 68 00:05:51,302 --> 00:05:55,578 and that got my... My, uh, attention 69 00:05:55,602 --> 00:05:59,762 and, uh, I had a real bad feeling. 70 00:06:02,462 --> 00:06:03,938 Karen called me at work. 71 00:06:03,962 --> 00:06:06,138 She said that something had happened in Niger. 72 00:06:06,162 --> 00:06:08,608 And I said, "Okay," and, uh, hung up. 73 00:06:08,632 --> 00:06:10,078 I went to a friend of mine there. 74 00:06:10,102 --> 00:06:13,278 I said, "Hey, my son's deployed, and we heard about something. 75 00:06:13,302 --> 00:06:14,778 Pray for my son." 76 00:06:14,802 --> 00:06:17,208 And then Karen called me at whatever time it was 77 00:06:17,232 --> 00:06:20,262 to say that she had gotten, uh, the knock on the door. 78 00:06:24,602 --> 00:06:26,508 There's nothing really to say. 79 00:06:26,532 --> 00:06:29,778 I mean, at that point, it's shock. 80 00:06:29,802 --> 00:06:30,938 You just... 81 00:06:30,962 --> 00:06:34,232 I don't really even remember reaction. 82 00:06:38,062 --> 00:06:40,478 I couldn't leave till the next morning, 83 00:06:40,502 --> 00:06:44,938 and so I spent, uh, just a grief-filled... 84 00:06:44,962 --> 00:06:48,108 grief-filled night. 85 00:06:48,132 --> 00:06:52,738 Just... just unimaginable... 86 00:06:52,762 --> 00:06:54,532 thoughts. 87 00:07:03,702 --> 00:07:05,738 The three Green Berets who were killed 88 00:07:05,762 --> 00:07:06,878 and the two wounded 89 00:07:06,902 --> 00:07:09,478 were on a patrol with the Niger soldiers 90 00:07:09,502 --> 00:07:12,108 when they were ambushed. It is not clear... 91 00:07:12,132 --> 00:07:13,308 The American soldiers 92 00:07:13,332 --> 00:07:14,838 were part of a Green Beret battalion 93 00:07:14,862 --> 00:07:16,778 called the Bush Hawks, assigned to train 94 00:07:16,802 --> 00:07:21,238 and assist the Nigerien army in fighting terror. 95 00:07:21,262 --> 00:07:22,932 Did the biscuits get in? 96 00:07:24,932 --> 00:07:28,338 Two piece, dirty rice, mac and cheese. 97 00:07:28,362 --> 00:07:30,438 I was at work. 98 00:07:30,462 --> 00:07:33,278 Morning was going normal and somebody turned around 99 00:07:33,302 --> 00:07:35,978 and said, "Debbie, your husband's here." 100 00:07:36,002 --> 00:07:38,502 And I went, "No, he's not. He's in Texas." 101 00:07:39,732 --> 00:07:41,308 Okay. 102 00:07:41,332 --> 00:07:45,078 Somebody else said, "No, Deb, your husband's here." 103 00:07:45,102 --> 00:07:47,338 I turned around and saw him 104 00:07:47,362 --> 00:07:49,908 and my mother's health isn't that good. 105 00:07:49,932 --> 00:07:52,638 So I looked at him and I thought, 106 00:07:52,662 --> 00:07:56,238 "He's only home if it's my mother or my son." 107 00:07:56,262 --> 00:07:57,938 And this may sound terrible, but I was thinking, 108 00:07:57,962 --> 00:08:01,208 "God, let it be my mother." 109 00:08:01,232 --> 00:08:05,108 And as I got closer to him, 110 00:08:05,132 --> 00:08:08,238 I could tell by the look on his face, 111 00:08:08,262 --> 00:08:10,102 it wasn't my mother. 112 00:08:16,302 --> 00:08:18,678 I told him he was lying to me. 113 00:08:18,702 --> 00:08:21,508 That couldn't be Jeremiah. He was too good. 114 00:08:21,532 --> 00:08:23,402 There had to be a mistake. 115 00:08:39,762 --> 00:08:40,908 My dad called me, 116 00:08:40,932 --> 00:08:42,338 and he was like, "Hey, babe, where you at?" 117 00:08:42,362 --> 00:08:43,578 I said, "Oh, I'm out. 118 00:08:43,602 --> 00:08:45,708 I'm doing some errands for auntie really fast. 119 00:08:45,732 --> 00:08:47,108 What happened?" 120 00:08:47,132 --> 00:08:48,708 He said, "Because the Army people at the house for you." 121 00:08:48,732 --> 00:08:50,508 I said, "What?" 122 00:08:50,532 --> 00:08:52,308 He said, "The Army people at the house for you." 123 00:08:52,332 --> 00:08:54,652 I said, "Okay, I'm coming right now. I'm coming right now." 124 00:08:58,032 --> 00:08:59,338 We get there. 125 00:08:59,362 --> 00:09:02,608 They tell me, um... 126 00:09:02,632 --> 00:09:07,378 that they was in, um, a rapid gunfight. 127 00:09:07,402 --> 00:09:09,338 And as of October 4th, 128 00:09:09,362 --> 00:09:13,302 Sergeant La David Johnson's whereabouts is unknown. 129 00:09:14,462 --> 00:09:16,438 I asked him, I said, "What you mean 'unknown' 130 00:09:16,462 --> 00:09:18,338 Like, you can't find him, you don't know where he at?" 131 00:09:18,362 --> 00:09:20,538 They told me, "No." 132 00:09:20,562 --> 00:09:23,678 After that, I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, 133 00:09:23,702 --> 00:09:24,808 I couldn't do anything, 134 00:09:24,832 --> 00:09:26,278 I'm just sitting here wondering about, 135 00:09:26,302 --> 00:09:28,278 "Where is my husband?" 136 00:09:28,302 --> 00:09:29,438 "They gonna find him." 137 00:09:29,462 --> 00:09:30,578 That's what I'm saying to myself. 138 00:09:30,602 --> 00:09:33,578 They gonna find him. They gonna find him. 139 00:09:33,602 --> 00:09:36,908 Then I get a call saying that, um, 140 00:09:36,932 --> 00:09:40,408 they have an American soldier 141 00:09:40,432 --> 00:09:42,078 and they are willing to do a trade 142 00:09:42,102 --> 00:09:44,508 or something like that. 143 00:09:44,532 --> 00:09:46,638 - For who? - They didn't say for who. 144 00:09:46,662 --> 00:09:48,538 They just said they willing to do a trade. 145 00:09:48,562 --> 00:09:51,438 In my mind, they still didn't find my husband. 146 00:09:51,462 --> 00:09:55,078 I don't know what's going on. 147 00:09:55,102 --> 00:09:57,438 So any little thing that somebody tells me, 148 00:09:57,462 --> 00:09:58,878 I'm thinking, "Could this be my husband? 149 00:09:58,902 --> 00:10:01,908 Could this be my husband?" 150 00:10:01,932 --> 00:10:04,008 If I can go back and figure out 151 00:10:04,032 --> 00:10:07,478 who gave them that first report, 152 00:10:07,502 --> 00:10:09,308 I'd fucking choke the shit out of them. 153 00:10:09,332 --> 00:10:11,408 I mean, it's just... 154 00:10:11,432 --> 00:10:16,408 It's egregious that somebody would share 155 00:10:16,432 --> 00:10:18,738 that unconfirmed report 156 00:10:18,762 --> 00:10:23,038 with them and... 157 00:10:23,062 --> 00:10:27,678 Unconscionable that the family would be given 158 00:10:27,702 --> 00:10:29,302 conflicting statements. 159 00:10:30,862 --> 00:10:33,178 I didn't hear anything else 160 00:10:33,202 --> 00:10:36,108 until my casualty assistance officer 161 00:10:36,132 --> 00:10:39,508 came to my home October 6th. 162 00:10:39,532 --> 00:10:42,238 And he told me, as of October 6th, 163 00:10:42,262 --> 00:10:46,762 Sergeant Johnson went from missing in action to KIA. 164 00:10:48,202 --> 00:10:49,808 Everybody went bananas. 165 00:10:49,832 --> 00:10:52,878 I was screaming and crying. 166 00:10:52,902 --> 00:10:55,938 My mother-in-law was throwing, um, glasses 167 00:10:55,962 --> 00:10:58,438 and screaming and crying. 168 00:10:58,462 --> 00:11:02,278 She falling on the floor, just throwing things. 169 00:11:02,302 --> 00:11:03,678 Aunt Rachel used to always say, 170 00:11:03,702 --> 00:11:07,338 Lord, please take her before you take one of her children 171 00:11:07,362 --> 00:11:10,478 because she's gonna go insane. 172 00:11:10,502 --> 00:11:14,378 October 6, 2017, 173 00:11:14,402 --> 00:11:16,562 was the day I think I went insane. 174 00:11:18,702 --> 00:11:20,608 The Pentagon's Africa Command 175 00:11:20,632 --> 00:11:22,208 does not know for sure 176 00:11:22,232 --> 00:11:24,978 if this American soldier was wounded 177 00:11:25,002 --> 00:11:27,108 and alive on the battlefield 178 00:11:27,132 --> 00:11:31,838 and if he was even, for a brief time, in ISIS hands. 179 00:11:31,862 --> 00:11:34,208 Did that phone call, the memory of that, 180 00:11:34,232 --> 00:11:36,038 sort of leave you with lingering doubt 181 00:11:36,062 --> 00:11:37,678 about whether La David was captured? 182 00:11:37,702 --> 00:11:39,678 And today, do you think he was captured 183 00:11:39,702 --> 00:11:43,832 or have you been convinced that he died fighting? 184 00:11:44,602 --> 00:11:48,478 At that moment, yes, I believed that... 185 00:11:48,502 --> 00:11:51,308 I felt that my husband was captured. 186 00:11:51,332 --> 00:11:53,138 This is a serious incident. 187 00:11:53,162 --> 00:11:55,578 Very little information being publicly offered 188 00:11:55,602 --> 00:11:58,008 by the U. S. Military. 189 00:11:58,032 --> 00:12:01,638 It was a very frustrating time for me 190 00:12:01,662 --> 00:12:03,878 and I think for everybody in the Pentagon 191 00:12:03,902 --> 00:12:07,578 to not have a clear 192 00:12:07,602 --> 00:12:10,502 and really, um... 193 00:12:14,202 --> 00:12:16,738 ...we felt accurate description 194 00:12:16,762 --> 00:12:19,062 of what had transpired on the ground. 195 00:12:21,602 --> 00:12:23,578 I served 28 years on active duty 196 00:12:23,602 --> 00:12:25,578 as an Army Special Forces officer 197 00:12:25,602 --> 00:12:30,138 and most recently served as a senior civilian executive 198 00:12:30,162 --> 00:12:32,062 in the Office of Secretary of Defense. 199 00:12:34,962 --> 00:12:40,478 I was recognized for my actions during the 4-day battle 200 00:12:40,502 --> 00:12:43,962 to retake the fortress at Qala-I-Jangi... 201 00:12:45,062 --> 00:12:46,578 ...which had been seized 202 00:12:46,602 --> 00:12:51,032 by 600 Al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners. 203 00:12:58,662 --> 00:13:02,338 I received the Distinguished Service Cross. 204 00:13:02,362 --> 00:13:04,838 On October 4, 2017, 205 00:13:04,862 --> 00:13:06,808 I was the acting Assistant Secretary 206 00:13:06,832 --> 00:13:08,908 for Special Operations. 207 00:13:08,932 --> 00:13:10,808 I think there were multiple factors 208 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:14,238 that contributed to the, um, inability 209 00:13:14,262 --> 00:13:17,108 to get a complete picture early on. 210 00:13:17,132 --> 00:13:18,808 First of all, the fog of war 211 00:13:18,832 --> 00:13:22,578 certainly contributes at the tactical level, 212 00:13:22,602 --> 00:13:25,508 but there seemed to be a reluctance 213 00:13:25,532 --> 00:13:30,138 to share the full scope of everything that was going on. 214 00:13:30,162 --> 00:13:32,208 The week ended the same way it began... 215 00:13:32,232 --> 00:13:34,178 With questions about why President Trump 216 00:13:34,202 --> 00:13:37,162 still hasn't addressed the ambush in Niger. 217 00:13:41,732 --> 00:13:43,278 Thank you all very much. 218 00:13:43,302 --> 00:13:45,578 The Pentagon has launched a full investigation. 219 00:13:45,602 --> 00:13:48,478 FBI agents on the ground in Niger to assist. 220 00:13:48,502 --> 00:13:49,878 In a rare moment today, 221 00:13:49,902 --> 00:13:51,778 the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Joseph Dunford, 222 00:13:51,802 --> 00:13:54,108 coming before the cameras after the President today 223 00:13:54,132 --> 00:13:56,608 would not answer questions sent his way. 224 00:13:56,632 --> 00:13:59,538 I think first and foremost, in this particular case, 225 00:13:59,562 --> 00:14:02,738 we owe the families as much information as we can find out 226 00:14:02,762 --> 00:14:04,008 about what happened. 227 00:14:04,032 --> 00:14:06,508 On the Hill, frustration is growing. 228 00:14:06,532 --> 00:14:08,338 Members of Congress are now asking 229 00:14:08,362 --> 00:14:11,708 whether this was a failure of intelligence or preparation. 230 00:14:11,732 --> 00:14:13,238 Even if there were mistakes, 231 00:14:13,262 --> 00:14:14,738 if there were mistakes from the team 232 00:14:14,762 --> 00:14:17,208 or there were mistakes in the chain of command, 233 00:14:17,232 --> 00:14:18,878 the families deserve the truth. 234 00:14:18,902 --> 00:14:22,478 I mean, I think that's truly the heart of the issue here. 235 00:14:22,502 --> 00:14:26,438 The families deserve the facts of what happened. 236 00:14:26,462 --> 00:14:28,808 We asked, "What exactly went wrong? 237 00:14:28,832 --> 00:14:31,408 Why did these four men lose their lives?" 238 00:14:31,432 --> 00:14:35,062 And no one would give us an answer. 239 00:14:39,432 --> 00:14:40,908 I spent years investigating 240 00:14:40,932 --> 00:14:42,608 the friendly-fire death in Iraq 241 00:14:42,632 --> 00:14:45,078 of Private First Class David H. Sharrett II 242 00:14:45,102 --> 00:14:47,538 with his dad, Dave Sharrett Sr., 243 00:14:47,562 --> 00:14:50,038 who was my high school English teacher. 244 00:14:50,062 --> 00:14:51,978 In 2018, Dave and his wife, Vicki, 245 00:14:52,002 --> 00:14:54,108 went down to a retreat in Tennessee 246 00:14:54,132 --> 00:14:56,538 for families of fallen service members, 247 00:14:56,562 --> 00:14:58,838 and they met Ray and Debbie Gannon, 248 00:14:58,862 --> 00:15:00,438 who approached them and said, 249 00:15:00,462 --> 00:15:03,238 "Our son was killed a few months ago in Niger. 250 00:15:03,262 --> 00:15:06,038 We don't think the Army is leveling with us. 251 00:15:06,062 --> 00:15:07,308 We don't know what to do." 252 00:15:07,332 --> 00:15:10,708 So, Dave said, "Talk to my former student James." 253 00:15:10,732 --> 00:15:13,078 And he put them on the phone with me. 254 00:15:13,102 --> 00:15:14,878 And we talked and I told them 255 00:15:14,902 --> 00:15:17,038 that I had had concerns since the incident 256 00:15:17,062 --> 00:15:19,678 in Tongo Tongo happened that the full truth 257 00:15:19,702 --> 00:15:23,108 was not being told to the American public. 258 00:15:23,132 --> 00:15:27,078 And so I promised Jeremiah Johnson's mother, Debbie Gannon, 259 00:15:27,102 --> 00:15:30,102 that I would not rest until I knew what was knowable. 260 00:15:37,002 --> 00:15:38,338 Thank you for joining us today 261 00:15:38,362 --> 00:15:40,878 in remembrance of our fallen brothers. 262 00:15:40,902 --> 00:15:42,508 My name is Colonel Brad Moses. 263 00:15:42,532 --> 00:15:44,038 I'm the 3rd group commander. 264 00:15:44,062 --> 00:15:47,708 On 4 October, Team Quallam and their Nigerien partners 265 00:15:47,732 --> 00:15:49,978 were attacked by an enemy that didn't want them 266 00:15:50,002 --> 00:15:52,808 to make this small spot in the world a better place. 267 00:15:52,832 --> 00:15:54,038 When did you first feel 268 00:15:54,062 --> 00:15:56,108 like there was something wrong with the story? 269 00:15:56,132 --> 00:15:57,778 Or when was the first moment when you were like, 270 00:15:57,802 --> 00:15:58,908 "Whoa, wait a minute"? 271 00:15:58,932 --> 00:16:00,838 When Colonel Moses came in, 272 00:16:00,862 --> 00:16:03,208 and from the time he starts talking, 273 00:16:03,232 --> 00:16:06,208 it just seemed to me everything was a lie. 274 00:16:06,232 --> 00:16:08,808 Because I had already had someone already came 275 00:16:08,832 --> 00:16:11,078 and spoke to me about another story. 276 00:16:11,102 --> 00:16:13,178 So I'm thinking when he came, 277 00:16:13,202 --> 00:16:16,138 it was gonna be exact same story that I heard before, 278 00:16:16,162 --> 00:16:17,838 but it was totally the opposite. 279 00:16:17,862 --> 00:16:19,738 Colonel Moses told me 280 00:16:19,762 --> 00:16:22,638 that La David was in the back of the truck. 281 00:16:22,662 --> 00:16:24,438 The truck hit the tree. 282 00:16:24,462 --> 00:16:29,908 And La David... He said that La David flew 900 meters 283 00:16:29,932 --> 00:16:31,708 and wind up in the bushes. 284 00:16:31,732 --> 00:16:32,908 Yes. 285 00:16:32,932 --> 00:16:34,778 So I looked at him and I told him, 286 00:16:34,802 --> 00:16:37,638 "You must think I'm really... I'm really crazy 287 00:16:37,662 --> 00:16:39,138 to believe a story like that." 288 00:16:39,162 --> 00:16:43,308 Just stuff that they said didn't add up at all. 289 00:16:43,332 --> 00:16:47,338 Everybody came telling me different things. 290 00:16:47,362 --> 00:16:51,178 First day, um, Moses came to my auntie house, 291 00:16:51,202 --> 00:16:53,438 sat on a couch saying 292 00:16:53,462 --> 00:16:57,008 that my husband, um, was on the back of the truck 293 00:16:57,032 --> 00:16:59,208 shooting a machine rifle. 294 00:16:59,232 --> 00:17:01,878 They hit a tree. He flew off. 295 00:17:01,902 --> 00:17:04,308 Then he say he was the one driving the truck. 296 00:17:04,332 --> 00:17:05,309 So which one was it? 297 00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:07,308 Did he hit the tree and flew off 298 00:17:07,332 --> 00:17:10,008 or was he driving the truck? 299 00:17:10,032 --> 00:17:14,038 Everybody was just saying anything 300 00:17:14,062 --> 00:17:18,938 because they know that mission went horribly wrong. 301 00:17:18,962 --> 00:17:22,802 And it was gonna be a lot of fingers to point and to blame. 302 00:17:23,862 --> 00:17:25,378 The ODA caught in a near ambush, 303 00:17:25,402 --> 00:17:27,708 made a decision to plant their feet and fight. 304 00:17:27,732 --> 00:17:30,378 Colonel Moses refused to do an on-camera interview, 305 00:17:30,402 --> 00:17:32,508 but he denied to me on the phone 306 00:17:32,532 --> 00:17:34,138 that he ever gave conflicting information 307 00:17:34,162 --> 00:17:37,208 to the Johnson family regarding La David's death. 308 00:17:37,232 --> 00:17:39,208 However, the first and most consistent thing 309 00:17:39,232 --> 00:17:41,638 I was told by all the family members 310 00:17:41,662 --> 00:17:44,578 was that they, too, had received dubious 311 00:17:44,602 --> 00:17:48,078 or conflicting information from the military. 312 00:17:48,102 --> 00:17:49,608 The immediate report 313 00:17:49,632 --> 00:17:51,508 was that he had been killed in combat 314 00:17:51,532 --> 00:17:54,708 and it had been by mortar fire. 315 00:17:54,732 --> 00:17:58,008 Mortar fire was the explanation for his death. 316 00:17:58,032 --> 00:17:59,678 I didn't have any reason to think otherwise, 317 00:17:59,702 --> 00:18:02,838 but I viewed his body. 318 00:18:02,862 --> 00:18:06,278 I served for seven years and saw my share. 319 00:18:06,302 --> 00:18:09,938 And what a mortar does to the human body... 320 00:18:09,962 --> 00:18:12,808 Shrapnel and fire... Is a lot different 321 00:18:12,832 --> 00:18:16,538 and is much more graphic and... and sinister 322 00:18:16,562 --> 00:18:18,538 than small-arms fire. 323 00:18:18,562 --> 00:18:21,778 And he was not charred flesh. 324 00:18:21,802 --> 00:18:26,778 He was a man who had stood his ground and fallen 325 00:18:26,802 --> 00:18:31,102 by small-arms-fire bullets riddling his body. 326 00:18:33,202 --> 00:18:36,578 So the autopsy report was where it really started clicking 327 00:18:36,602 --> 00:18:39,608 that something didn't add up. 328 00:18:39,632 --> 00:18:41,708 I had a gut feeling when I heard all this 329 00:18:41,732 --> 00:18:44,378 from the very beginning that something wasn't right. 330 00:18:44,402 --> 00:18:49,178 I had already been somewhat speaking with, uh... 331 00:18:49,202 --> 00:18:51,008 Dustin's family, 332 00:18:51,032 --> 00:18:56,178 and what they were being told and what we were being told 333 00:18:56,202 --> 00:18:58,578 were two different things. 334 00:18:58,602 --> 00:19:03,978 And I'm thinking, "Well, Dustin and Jeremiah were side by side, 335 00:19:04,002 --> 00:19:08,578 so there can't be different stories." 336 00:19:08,602 --> 00:19:10,808 And that's when I'm going, 337 00:19:10,832 --> 00:19:14,378 "Now I know we're being lied to." 338 00:19:14,402 --> 00:19:17,408 And that's the only damn thing I asked him to do 339 00:19:17,432 --> 00:19:19,978 from the very beginning. 340 00:19:20,002 --> 00:19:21,832 Just tell me the truth. 341 00:19:40,702 --> 00:19:42,638 Everybody knows Afghanistan. 342 00:19:42,662 --> 00:19:44,238 Everybody knows Syria. 343 00:19:44,262 --> 00:19:46,738 Everybody knows those places. 344 00:19:46,762 --> 00:19:49,702 They don't know about Niger, Africa. 345 00:19:51,502 --> 00:19:54,978 I didn't realize that... 346 00:19:55,002 --> 00:19:56,932 we even needed troops there. 347 00:19:59,602 --> 00:20:00,938 I never thought 348 00:20:00,962 --> 00:20:02,662 there was anything going on over there. 349 00:20:04,332 --> 00:20:07,238 Absolutely nothing. 350 00:20:07,262 --> 00:20:09,608 Never heard it on the news, 351 00:20:09,632 --> 00:20:12,802 never saw anything that was going on over there. 352 00:20:14,202 --> 00:20:16,532 Had no idea we had troops over there. 353 00:20:18,632 --> 00:20:19,738 I used to always tell him, 354 00:20:19,762 --> 00:20:21,108 "Make sure you stay alert. 355 00:20:21,132 --> 00:20:25,308 You know, don't let your guard down with nothing." 356 00:20:25,332 --> 00:20:26,778 And he reassure me. He was like, 357 00:20:26,802 --> 00:20:28,538 "No, My, it's not nothing like that. 358 00:20:28,562 --> 00:20:29,908 You know, we're just going over here to train 359 00:20:29,932 --> 00:20:32,138 the African soldiers and stuff like that." 360 00:20:32,162 --> 00:20:35,338 And I ain't think nothing about ISIS 361 00:20:35,362 --> 00:20:38,438 and stuff over there coming to get him. 362 00:20:38,462 --> 00:20:40,632 No. That was the least of my worries. 363 00:20:50,102 --> 00:20:53,378 Having been in Iraq and Afghanistan previously, 364 00:20:53,402 --> 00:20:56,108 there's just a different mindset in Niger. 365 00:20:56,132 --> 00:20:57,338 But I would never fool myself 366 00:20:57,362 --> 00:21:00,338 and think nothing could happen in West Africa. 367 00:21:00,362 --> 00:21:02,102 We know why we were there. 368 00:21:04,102 --> 00:21:07,978 I joined the Army because I wanted to serve others. 369 00:21:08,002 --> 00:21:12,608 I wanted to make a difference in the world. 370 00:21:12,632 --> 00:21:14,908 I do not come from a military family. 371 00:21:14,932 --> 00:21:17,408 I think most of my military influence 372 00:21:17,432 --> 00:21:20,208 came from too many movies as a child, 373 00:21:20,232 --> 00:21:22,238 probably watched "Rambo" one too many times. 374 00:21:22,262 --> 00:21:23,862 And I'm not afraid to admit that. 375 00:21:25,132 --> 00:21:28,078 As a Special Forces Detachment Commander, 376 00:21:28,102 --> 00:21:30,838 when I was a captain leading a 12-man team 377 00:21:30,862 --> 00:21:34,108 in both eastern Afghanistan and southern Afghanistan, 378 00:21:34,132 --> 00:21:35,962 we saw quite a bit of combat. 379 00:21:38,362 --> 00:21:39,678 In Niger, 380 00:21:39,702 --> 00:21:44,402 I was the advanced operations base Niger commander. 381 00:21:45,602 --> 00:21:48,008 We were partnered with Nigerien forces. 382 00:21:48,032 --> 00:21:51,378 We were there to work with them because there was a very real 383 00:21:51,402 --> 00:21:53,908 and active threat in West Africa 384 00:21:53,932 --> 00:21:56,608 in the form of both Al Qaeda affiliates 385 00:21:56,632 --> 00:21:58,438 and Islamic State affiliates, 386 00:21:58,462 --> 00:22:00,338 not to mention some other ones, 387 00:22:00,362 --> 00:22:03,162 kind of an alphabet soup of threat forces out there. 388 00:22:18,462 --> 00:22:21,208 The biggest problem now is this area 389 00:22:21,232 --> 00:22:23,938 near the Malian border. 390 00:22:23,962 --> 00:22:25,908 These guys are very mobile. 391 00:22:25,932 --> 00:22:28,638 They move on motorcycles, land cruisers. 392 00:22:28,662 --> 00:22:30,508 Any time we have an encounter with them, 393 00:22:30,532 --> 00:22:34,378 we will just try to and then cross the border. 394 00:22:34,402 --> 00:22:37,638 In normal time, you don't see them in large group. 395 00:22:37,662 --> 00:22:41,538 So just like scattered in villages, you know, 396 00:22:41,562 --> 00:22:43,378 they have those small camps 397 00:22:43,402 --> 00:22:47,308 that only will group to conduct an attack. 398 00:22:47,332 --> 00:22:49,678 Surprise to us, we still can't get towards the enemy. 399 00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:51,208 Let's go to Quallam. 400 00:22:51,232 --> 00:22:52,778 Yeah. 401 00:22:52,802 --> 00:22:56,078 Stabilizing this part of the world 402 00:22:56,102 --> 00:23:00,638 is part of the overall global, like, uh, 403 00:23:00,662 --> 00:23:03,632 fight against, uh, evil. 404 00:23:08,802 --> 00:23:11,478 This environment in Africa is no joke. 405 00:23:11,502 --> 00:23:15,208 It is just like Afghanistan, just like Syria, just like Iraq, 406 00:23:15,232 --> 00:23:17,638 but it doesn't get the resourcing 407 00:23:17,662 --> 00:23:20,838 because it's not a combat environment, right? 408 00:23:20,862 --> 00:23:23,638 But it is a combat environment. 409 00:23:23,662 --> 00:23:26,038 And so stop putting lipstick on the pig. 410 00:23:26,062 --> 00:23:27,862 It is what it is. 411 00:23:30,102 --> 00:23:31,738 Most foreign fighters 412 00:23:31,762 --> 00:23:33,678 that joined the fight in Afghanistan, 413 00:23:33,702 --> 00:23:36,778 Iraq, and Syria and other places come from North Africa. 414 00:23:36,802 --> 00:23:40,378 They're all now starting to come back. 415 00:23:40,402 --> 00:23:44,708 Most of the designated what they call terrorist groups, 416 00:23:44,732 --> 00:23:49,262 um, by the State Department reside in Africa. 417 00:24:56,062 --> 00:24:57,009 Alright, so we're getting ready 418 00:24:57,033 --> 00:24:59,078 to fly out to see Team Quallam. 419 00:24:59,102 --> 00:25:00,238 This will be my first time out 420 00:25:00,262 --> 00:25:04,108 to see the guys since we've gotten here. 421 00:25:04,132 --> 00:25:06,608 People are familiar with the show "The A-Team." 422 00:25:06,632 --> 00:25:08,978 "The A-Team" is modeled off of an ODA, 423 00:25:09,002 --> 00:25:10,838 an Operational Detachment Alpha, 424 00:25:10,862 --> 00:25:13,562 a 12-man Special Forces team. 425 00:25:15,262 --> 00:25:17,178 As a major in Special Forces, 426 00:25:17,202 --> 00:25:20,878 my ODAs included ODA 3212. 427 00:25:20,902 --> 00:25:22,608 I'm coming to check out the barbershop. 428 00:25:22,632 --> 00:25:25,008 I heard good things. 429 00:25:25,032 --> 00:25:26,878 Who's next? 430 00:25:26,902 --> 00:25:28,308 - You, sir. - I'm good. 431 00:25:28,332 --> 00:25:30,208 I got mine in the capital the other day. 432 00:25:30,232 --> 00:25:32,878 La David Johnson stood out to me 433 00:25:32,902 --> 00:25:35,478 as the soldier's soldier. 434 00:25:35,502 --> 00:25:37,538 He... 435 00:25:37,562 --> 00:25:39,738 He like... like all good mechanics, 436 00:25:39,762 --> 00:25:41,308 he was the jack-of-all-trades. 437 00:25:41,332 --> 00:25:42,908 He could fix anything. 438 00:25:42,932 --> 00:25:44,608 When you're not cutting hair, 439 00:25:44,632 --> 00:25:47,538 what are your other, uh, camp duties around here? 440 00:25:47,562 --> 00:25:50,108 Finding stuff to do, like make sure my truck's good, 441 00:25:50,132 --> 00:25:51,778 making sure my generator's good, 442 00:25:51,802 --> 00:25:54,362 like regular maintenance on the daily. 443 00:25:56,132 --> 00:25:57,778 Hey. Hey. 444 00:25:57,802 --> 00:25:59,238 There you go. There you go. 445 00:25:59,262 --> 00:26:01,108 Hey! 446 00:26:01,132 --> 00:26:05,008 La David was a kind-hearted person 447 00:26:05,032 --> 00:26:06,678 who would give you the shirt off his back 448 00:26:06,702 --> 00:26:08,708 in a rainstorm. 449 00:26:08,732 --> 00:26:10,732 He would help anybody who needed it. 450 00:26:14,562 --> 00:26:17,508 Sergeant La David Johnson's mom passed 451 00:26:17,532 --> 00:26:19,778 when he was 5 years old. 452 00:26:19,802 --> 00:26:23,408 I am his auntie, I'm married to his uncle, 453 00:26:23,432 --> 00:26:26,732 which made me become his auntie/mom. 454 00:26:29,032 --> 00:26:31,508 Yeah, I'm his uncle, you know what I mean? 455 00:26:31,532 --> 00:26:34,938 But I raised him as my son. 456 00:26:34,962 --> 00:26:37,278 He was always a spiritual kid, 457 00:26:37,302 --> 00:26:40,138 and he always told us, we need to be more grateful. 458 00:26:40,162 --> 00:26:43,238 He always said that we more blessed 459 00:26:43,262 --> 00:26:46,478 than a lot of people that we don't see. 460 00:26:46,502 --> 00:26:50,038 He was sweet, he was kind, and he always was creative. 461 00:26:50,062 --> 00:26:51,938 He always found something to do. 462 00:26:51,962 --> 00:26:55,408 He never was a kid just sit in the house. 463 00:26:55,432 --> 00:26:58,602 Like kids nowadays... never. 464 00:27:03,202 --> 00:27:04,538 They call him the Wheelie King 465 00:27:04,562 --> 00:27:06,008 because down here in Miami, 466 00:27:06,032 --> 00:27:08,602 he's known for riding his bike with one wheel. 467 00:27:10,832 --> 00:27:12,938 His name is La David Johnson. 468 00:27:12,962 --> 00:27:15,178 He rides from his home in Miami Gardens 469 00:27:15,202 --> 00:27:18,102 to his job in Pembroke Pines on one wheel. 470 00:27:19,532 --> 00:27:22,078 He even was on the news for it. 471 00:27:22,102 --> 00:27:24,708 So he was very known in our city. 472 00:27:24,732 --> 00:27:26,278 My homie, he do a catwalk 473 00:27:26,302 --> 00:27:29,578 from here to West Broward with no wheel on the front. 474 00:27:29,602 --> 00:27:32,002 That's crazy, man. 475 00:27:34,402 --> 00:27:35,738 We love you, David. 476 00:27:35,762 --> 00:27:37,832 Love y'all, too, man. 477 00:27:41,362 --> 00:27:43,008 Our block, we had a good block, 478 00:27:43,032 --> 00:27:45,662 but around us, it was a lot of killing. 479 00:27:47,562 --> 00:27:49,978 And I think that he thought maybe if he get out, 480 00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:53,278 he could have a better life for himself. 481 00:27:53,302 --> 00:27:57,578 He see me grind it out all my life. 482 00:27:57,602 --> 00:28:01,538 And he was just saying, "There got to be a better way." 483 00:28:01,562 --> 00:28:04,908 I would ask him, "Why you don't try and go to the military?" 484 00:28:04,932 --> 00:28:06,808 He'd be like, "I've been thinking about that." 485 00:28:06,832 --> 00:28:09,032 I was like, "You should go." 486 00:28:16,332 --> 00:28:19,908 A community coming together to honor a local hero. 487 00:28:19,932 --> 00:28:24,078 Today Puyallup remembers Staff Sergeant Bryan Black. 488 00:28:24,102 --> 00:28:27,038 Black graduated from Puyallup High School in 2000 489 00:28:27,062 --> 00:28:29,538 and enlisted nine years later. 490 00:28:29,562 --> 00:28:31,208 He spoke several languages, 491 00:28:31,232 --> 00:28:33,608 including the one spoken in Niger, 492 00:28:33,632 --> 00:28:36,638 where he often tended to injured civilians. 493 00:28:36,662 --> 00:28:38,308 A man they say... 494 00:28:38,332 --> 00:28:42,138 Bryan Black, one of the smartest man I've ever met. 495 00:28:42,162 --> 00:28:44,778 Extremely cerebral. 496 00:28:44,802 --> 00:28:46,978 There's always something on his mind. 497 00:28:47,002 --> 00:28:51,308 But he was so cool and calm 498 00:28:51,332 --> 00:28:54,408 that he knew just when to speak his mind. 499 00:28:54,432 --> 00:28:58,362 And when he did, you knew you were wrong. 500 00:29:00,662 --> 00:29:04,908 I knew something was different the day he was born. 501 00:29:04,932 --> 00:29:07,578 When I held him right after he was born, 502 00:29:07,602 --> 00:29:09,438 he immediately pushed up against me 503 00:29:09,462 --> 00:29:11,538 and did his first push-up 504 00:29:11,562 --> 00:29:13,708 and literally looked around the room. 505 00:29:13,732 --> 00:29:16,008 And it's like, "Infants that just were born 506 00:29:16,032 --> 00:29:18,738 don't do that." 507 00:29:18,762 --> 00:29:21,638 And that pretty much is what persisted 508 00:29:21,662 --> 00:29:23,838 throughout his entire childhood. 509 00:29:23,862 --> 00:29:27,708 Always having the strong determination 510 00:29:27,732 --> 00:29:30,362 to do whatever it is he wanted to do. 511 00:29:33,002 --> 00:29:36,208 I remember the first year when he was playing chess. 512 00:29:36,232 --> 00:29:38,808 He didn't win many, uh, games that year. 513 00:29:38,832 --> 00:29:40,108 And I remember... 514 00:29:40,132 --> 00:29:42,108 It may have been the last tournament of the season... 515 00:29:42,132 --> 00:29:43,378 And he went out in the parking lot. 516 00:29:43,402 --> 00:29:45,938 He sat on a curb and he was really mad. 517 00:29:45,962 --> 00:29:47,708 And I went and talked to him, sat down. 518 00:29:47,732 --> 00:29:50,208 I said, "Look, if you study and work at it, 519 00:29:50,232 --> 00:29:51,378 you're gonna be good." 520 00:29:51,402 --> 00:29:52,808 And he did the whole summer and next year, 521 00:29:52,832 --> 00:29:56,132 he, uh, won just about every chess tournament he played in. 522 00:30:12,202 --> 00:30:13,838 Jeremiah Johnson was a new member of the team 523 00:30:13,862 --> 00:30:17,732 and had previously been at my company headquarters. 524 00:30:19,402 --> 00:30:22,662 He had the instincts of the perfect soldier. 525 00:30:24,902 --> 00:30:28,378 He was just about like any other little boy, 526 00:30:28,402 --> 00:30:31,608 outside running around all the time. 527 00:30:31,632 --> 00:30:34,808 He broke a couple of bones and didn't even whine about it. 528 00:30:34,832 --> 00:30:37,662 He'd just come home and go, "This hurts." 529 00:30:39,502 --> 00:30:43,108 Jeremiah was the fucking badass. 530 00:30:43,132 --> 00:30:46,078 There's just no other way around that. 531 00:30:46,102 --> 00:30:48,408 He was just a badass. 532 00:30:48,432 --> 00:30:50,462 He was scared of nothing. 533 00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:59,008 Growing up, he was a pain in the butt, 534 00:30:59,032 --> 00:31:01,332 but he was also a hero and a protector. 535 00:31:05,532 --> 00:31:07,938 You know, military kids, you move around, 536 00:31:07,962 --> 00:31:11,608 people would pick on us, and he would always defend me. 537 00:31:11,632 --> 00:31:14,438 Being younger... three, almost three years younger... 538 00:31:14,462 --> 00:31:17,738 He would still defend me. 539 00:31:17,762 --> 00:31:21,808 When we first met, Jeremiah was about 16. 540 00:31:21,832 --> 00:31:26,408 And, you know, we got together and I told him 541 00:31:26,432 --> 00:31:29,278 I was... I was gonna ask his mother to marry me. 542 00:31:29,302 --> 00:31:31,538 And, uh, he said, 543 00:31:31,562 --> 00:31:35,108 "Well, you know, I don't think I'll ever call you dad." 544 00:31:35,132 --> 00:31:38,908 I said, "I understand that. You already have a father." 545 00:31:38,932 --> 00:31:43,008 I said, "But, uh, you know, if I could just be your friend 546 00:31:43,032 --> 00:31:47,208 and mentor, that'd be... That'd suit me fine." 547 00:31:47,232 --> 00:31:50,532 And over the years, I became Pops. 548 00:31:52,332 --> 00:31:55,508 And it did my heart good. 549 00:31:55,532 --> 00:31:58,708 He, uh, joined the Army at a late age. 550 00:31:58,732 --> 00:32:00,978 That kind of shocked us. 551 00:32:01,002 --> 00:32:04,438 He wanted to do his part. 552 00:32:04,462 --> 00:32:07,438 He wanted to serve his country. 553 00:32:07,462 --> 00:32:11,638 He wanted to do what he could to, uh, 554 00:32:11,662 --> 00:32:16,238 take care of the terrorists that were out there. 555 00:32:16,262 --> 00:32:17,938 I remember very clearly the day he told me 556 00:32:17,962 --> 00:32:20,038 he wanted to join the Army. 557 00:32:20,062 --> 00:32:21,378 I said, "Why? 558 00:32:21,402 --> 00:32:25,278 You are 29 years old. Why now?" 559 00:32:25,302 --> 00:32:26,978 He said, "Because I want to legally kill people 560 00:32:27,002 --> 00:32:29,378 and blow shit up." 561 00:32:29,402 --> 00:32:31,308 I swear to God. 562 00:32:31,332 --> 00:32:35,102 And I went, "Alrighty, that works." 563 00:32:40,762 --> 00:32:44,378 Well, this is how we set the charge. 564 00:32:44,402 --> 00:32:46,178 This will not make the final cut. 565 00:32:46,202 --> 00:32:49,008 Tom Hanks in, uh, "Saving Private Ryan." 566 00:32:49,032 --> 00:32:51,738 - This should make the final cut. - There you go. 567 00:32:51,762 --> 00:32:53,178 Dustin Wright. 568 00:32:53,202 --> 00:32:55,578 Dusty could walk into a crowd of a thousand people 569 00:32:55,602 --> 00:32:58,738 and within an hour, be best friends with all of them. 570 00:32:58,762 --> 00:33:00,208 I actually like this kind of stuff. 571 00:33:00,232 --> 00:33:03,238 I mean, anybody can shoot a gun. You know? 572 00:33:03,262 --> 00:33:04,908 Demo is something else. 573 00:33:04,932 --> 00:33:06,732 It's a lot more fun. 574 00:33:11,732 --> 00:33:13,662 Mission success. 575 00:33:21,932 --> 00:33:25,208 Our whole family served. 576 00:33:25,232 --> 00:33:26,708 My granddaddy and his four brothers 577 00:33:26,732 --> 00:33:28,338 were in World War II. 578 00:33:28,362 --> 00:33:31,478 My grandmother's three brothers were in World War II. 579 00:33:31,502 --> 00:33:35,938 Our family goes back to the War of 1812. 580 00:33:35,962 --> 00:33:39,878 We had a family member in service at any point 581 00:33:39,902 --> 00:33:42,308 through constant engagement since that war. 582 00:33:42,332 --> 00:33:43,938 And to our knowledge, 583 00:33:43,962 --> 00:33:46,632 we've never lost anyone except for Dustin. 584 00:33:49,732 --> 00:33:50,938 When I think about Dustin, 585 00:33:50,962 --> 00:33:54,632 it's my best friend and he's half my soul. 586 00:33:56,832 --> 00:33:59,802 We nailed it as brothers. 587 00:34:07,702 --> 00:34:09,708 We had a blessing that most people don't get. 588 00:34:09,732 --> 00:34:13,078 We had each other through thick and thin. 589 00:34:13,102 --> 00:34:16,338 He and Will were always together. 590 00:34:16,362 --> 00:34:18,732 They didn't go a day without speaking. 591 00:34:20,202 --> 00:34:22,102 Just not one day. 592 00:34:30,832 --> 00:34:34,338 So I haven't told him yet 593 00:34:34,362 --> 00:34:36,438 about him having a-a niece. 594 00:34:36,462 --> 00:34:39,738 So that's what, um, I wanted to come out here 595 00:34:39,762 --> 00:34:42,408 and talk to him about today because I don't know 596 00:34:42,432 --> 00:34:43,902 what I'm gonna do with a little girl. 597 00:34:49,762 --> 00:34:53,178 Them damn Wright boys. 598 00:34:53,202 --> 00:34:57,278 Little spice and trouble and meanness 599 00:34:57,302 --> 00:34:59,508 and a whole... Whole lot of fighting, 600 00:34:59,532 --> 00:35:02,438 but end of the day, 601 00:35:02,462 --> 00:35:04,362 a whole lot of love, too. 602 00:35:05,632 --> 00:35:07,162 To Dustin. 603 00:35:10,462 --> 00:35:12,062 I love you, brother. 604 00:35:37,102 --> 00:35:39,538 Five months after the gunfight in Tongo Tongo, 605 00:35:39,562 --> 00:35:42,978 ISIS in West Africa claimed responsibility for the attack. 606 00:35:43,002 --> 00:35:45,038 They released a propaganda video, 607 00:35:45,062 --> 00:35:46,108 which included clips 608 00:35:46,132 --> 00:35:48,238 from Jeremiah Johnson's helmet cam, 609 00:35:48,262 --> 00:35:50,632 which they took off his body. 610 00:35:55,932 --> 00:35:58,738 The video shows the final desperate minutes of battle 611 00:35:58,762 --> 00:36:03,138 from Bryan, Jeremiah, Dustin alone around their vehicle, 612 00:36:03,162 --> 00:36:05,562 exchanging heavy fire with the enemy. 613 00:36:14,602 --> 00:36:17,708 Newly released video shows the deadly ambush 614 00:36:17,732 --> 00:36:20,678 of American soldiers and is raising new questions 615 00:36:20,702 --> 00:36:22,338 about the U. S. Military mission 616 00:36:22,362 --> 00:36:23,878 in the African country of Niger. 617 00:36:23,902 --> 00:36:26,908 It shows just how outgunned 618 00:36:26,932 --> 00:36:28,662 and overwhelmed they were. 619 00:36:37,232 --> 00:36:39,138 Good afternoon, everyone. 620 00:36:39,162 --> 00:36:41,308 We are here this afternoon to brief you 621 00:36:41,332 --> 00:36:45,008 on the findings of U. S. Africa Command's investigation 622 00:36:45,032 --> 00:36:48,008 into the ambush of U. S. And Nigerien soldiers 623 00:36:48,032 --> 00:36:50,908 near the Tongo... Near Tongo Tongo, Niger, 624 00:36:50,932 --> 00:36:53,578 in early October 2017, 625 00:36:53,602 --> 00:36:56,438 and also to answer your questions. 626 00:36:56,462 --> 00:36:57,708 Before we begin, however, 627 00:36:57,732 --> 00:37:00,178 I would like to extend my deepest condolences 628 00:37:00,202 --> 00:37:04,678 to the families and loved ones of those lost in this attack. 629 00:37:04,702 --> 00:37:06,738 Our commitment, first and foremost, 630 00:37:06,762 --> 00:37:11,108 has been to provide a complete accounting to the families. 631 00:37:11,132 --> 00:37:13,278 I would like to talk with you in greater detail 632 00:37:13,302 --> 00:37:16,208 about the preparedness of Team Quallam to conduct, 633 00:37:16,232 --> 00:37:19,738 partnered, advise, assist and accompany operations 634 00:37:19,762 --> 00:37:21,808 on 3 and 4 October. 635 00:37:21,832 --> 00:37:25,438 The investigation discovered the integration and training 636 00:37:25,462 --> 00:37:28,908 with partnered forces in Niger was inadequate. 637 00:37:28,932 --> 00:37:31,238 Team Quallam did not meet the appropriate standards 638 00:37:31,262 --> 00:37:33,508 of familiarization and integration 639 00:37:33,532 --> 00:37:35,408 with the Nigerien Partner Force 640 00:37:35,432 --> 00:37:39,608 prior to conducting the initial mission on 3 October. 641 00:37:39,632 --> 00:37:43,208 In addition, routine tasks such as conducting rehearsals 642 00:37:43,232 --> 00:37:45,908 for immediate action drills upon enemy contact 643 00:37:45,932 --> 00:37:49,408 were not completed prior to stepping off for this mission. 644 00:37:49,432 --> 00:37:52,678 The team did not conduct those basic soldier-level skills 645 00:37:52,702 --> 00:37:54,278 that would... That are really necessary 646 00:37:54,302 --> 00:37:57,078 to go on an operation such as this. 647 00:37:57,102 --> 00:37:59,408 So in layman's terms, 648 00:37:59,432 --> 00:38:01,338 how would you characterize this? 649 00:38:01,362 --> 00:38:03,378 Are they sloppy or are they cowboys? 650 00:38:03,402 --> 00:38:04,708 Are they taking too much risk? 651 00:38:04,732 --> 00:38:06,378 What would you tell the American people about this? 652 00:38:06,402 --> 00:38:08,038 How would you characterize your behavior? 653 00:38:08,062 --> 00:38:11,178 The special operators on the continent are serving well. 654 00:38:11,202 --> 00:38:15,378 They do high-risk missions and based on my observations, 655 00:38:15,402 --> 00:38:17,438 this particular... This particular team 656 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:20,708 is not indicative of what they do. 657 00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:23,178 That was infuriating to me, and it's like, 658 00:38:23,202 --> 00:38:24,578 "Oh, my gosh." 659 00:38:24,602 --> 00:38:26,078 I didn't even finish listening to the news conference. 660 00:38:26,102 --> 00:38:27,408 I turned it off. 661 00:38:27,432 --> 00:38:30,878 I couldn't stand to even look at him after I heard that. 662 00:38:30,902 --> 00:38:33,408 It's like, "How can you possibly say that?" 663 00:38:33,432 --> 00:38:37,538 I think it's an unfair characterization of an ODA 664 00:38:37,562 --> 00:38:41,638 that found itself in a bad situation 665 00:38:41,662 --> 00:38:44,108 and did the best that they could. 666 00:38:44,132 --> 00:38:46,738 And to say that they weren't indicative, 667 00:38:46,762 --> 00:38:49,508 I just don't think it's a fair characterization 668 00:38:49,532 --> 00:38:52,638 of... of the... the men on that detachment. 669 00:38:52,662 --> 00:38:53,838 It stung. 670 00:38:53,862 --> 00:38:57,478 It hurt... really bad to hear that 671 00:38:57,502 --> 00:39:00,178 because it was clear 672 00:39:00,202 --> 00:39:05,238 that a statement like that was protecting the command 673 00:39:05,262 --> 00:39:08,638 and, in a way, trying to protect the community 674 00:39:08,662 --> 00:39:13,278 while badmouthing a team 675 00:39:13,302 --> 00:39:18,138 that had the odds overwhelmingly stacked against them. 676 00:39:18,162 --> 00:39:20,478 Those briefings, 677 00:39:20,502 --> 00:39:23,238 I thought, were embarrassing briefings. 678 00:39:23,262 --> 00:39:27,278 Infuriating, unbelievable 679 00:39:27,302 --> 00:39:29,808 to... to literally say these 680 00:39:29,832 --> 00:39:34,802 about my stepson and his comrades. 681 00:39:37,532 --> 00:39:43,232 I mean, it, uh, just besmirches their memory. 682 00:39:45,502 --> 00:39:47,102 General Waldhauser. 683 00:39:49,162 --> 00:39:51,408 General Waldhauser, ABC News. 684 00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:53,508 General, your public comments 685 00:39:53,532 --> 00:39:55,008 about the team and its competence, 686 00:39:55,032 --> 00:39:56,278 which you said they were not indicative 687 00:39:56,302 --> 00:39:57,408 of other special operators 688 00:39:57,432 --> 00:39:59,138 who are doing great work on the continent. 689 00:39:59,162 --> 00:40:00,878 That's what they had... Correct. 690 00:40:00,902 --> 00:40:02,238 They said that was hurtful 691 00:40:02,262 --> 00:40:04,208 to the families of the fallen. They told us that. 692 00:40:04,232 --> 00:40:05,578 Well, it wasn't intended to be hurtful 693 00:40:05,602 --> 00:40:07,038 to the families of the fallen. 694 00:40:07,062 --> 00:40:09,238 The intent was to make that the special operations forces 695 00:40:09,262 --> 00:40:10,938 have difficult missions on the continent. 696 00:40:10,962 --> 00:40:12,178 They carry them out every day 697 00:40:12,202 --> 00:40:14,178 and to try to highlight some of the shortcomings 698 00:40:14,202 --> 00:40:15,538 that the investigation found 699 00:40:15,562 --> 00:40:17,438 with regards to contributing factors 700 00:40:17,462 --> 00:40:19,038 to the overall situation, 701 00:40:19,062 --> 00:40:22,178 but it was never intended to be hurtful to the families. 702 00:40:22,202 --> 00:40:23,179 Thank you for your time. 703 00:40:23,203 --> 00:40:25,438 Thanks. 704 00:40:25,462 --> 00:40:30,378 Well, maybe he didn't mean to hurt us, but he did. 705 00:40:30,402 --> 00:40:35,178 And not just as a gold star mother who's lost a child, 706 00:40:35,202 --> 00:40:37,608 but as an American. 707 00:40:37,632 --> 00:40:41,232 Why would you throw your people under the bus? 708 00:40:43,102 --> 00:40:46,808 Why would you... 709 00:40:46,832 --> 00:40:49,702 blame your men... 710 00:40:52,132 --> 00:40:55,338 ...who were following your orders 711 00:40:55,362 --> 00:40:58,502 and who you're responsible for? 712 00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:04,302 Doesn't the buck stop with the leader? 713 00:41:06,662 --> 00:41:10,338 Isn't that why there's a chain of command 714 00:41:10,362 --> 00:41:13,562 and isn't that why the chain of command is followed? 715 00:41:15,132 --> 00:41:17,108 But according to General Waldhauser, 716 00:41:17,132 --> 00:41:20,908 ODA 3212 did not follow the chain of command. 717 00:41:20,932 --> 00:41:23,278 He alleged that the team did not inform 718 00:41:23,302 --> 00:41:28,178 their commanding officers of the true intent of their mission. 719 00:41:28,202 --> 00:41:30,408 The investigation also found the team 720 00:41:30,432 --> 00:41:33,108 inaccurately portrayed the concept of operations 721 00:41:33,132 --> 00:41:36,108 for the first of three total missions 722 00:41:36,132 --> 00:41:38,538 on 3 and 4 October. 723 00:41:38,562 --> 00:41:41,308 If I were to summarize the report in one sentence, 724 00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:44,808 it said that the ODA was ill-prepared 725 00:41:44,832 --> 00:41:47,808 and conducting an unauthorized mission. 726 00:41:47,832 --> 00:41:50,008 Not only did General Waldhauser suggest 727 00:41:50,032 --> 00:41:54,038 that ODA 3212 was relatively incompetent, 728 00:41:54,062 --> 00:41:56,578 he went on to claim that this team of Green Berets 729 00:41:56,602 --> 00:42:01,138 left base under false pretenses to try to capture or kill 730 00:42:01,162 --> 00:42:03,808 one of the most dangerous terrorists in the region... 731 00:42:03,832 --> 00:42:06,738 A man named Doundou Chefou. 732 00:42:06,762 --> 00:42:09,908 In effect, he accused the team of going on a rogue mission 733 00:42:09,932 --> 00:42:12,278 for the ISIS commander's scalp. 734 00:42:12,302 --> 00:42:13,438 The Pentagon investigation 735 00:42:13,462 --> 00:42:15,678 found the team's commanders, two captains, 736 00:42:15,702 --> 00:42:17,778 mischaracterized the initial mission, 737 00:42:17,802 --> 00:42:20,378 claiming it was less dangerous than it really was. 738 00:42:20,402 --> 00:42:23,108 Had the first mission been properly characterized, 739 00:42:23,132 --> 00:42:25,738 it would have been required to... to be approved 740 00:42:25,762 --> 00:42:26,878 at a higher level. 741 00:42:26,902 --> 00:42:28,208 And by being approved at a higher level, 742 00:42:28,232 --> 00:42:29,938 it would have received more oversight 743 00:42:29,962 --> 00:42:31,278 from the chain of command. 744 00:42:31,302 --> 00:42:33,838 We started to see press reports come out 745 00:42:33,862 --> 00:42:37,078 that there was, you know, claims 746 00:42:37,102 --> 00:42:42,708 that ODA 3212 decided on their own 747 00:42:42,732 --> 00:42:48,438 that they would, um, institute a kill/capture mission 748 00:42:48,462 --> 00:42:53,308 to one of the lieutenants of, uh, ISIS in Niger. 749 00:42:53,332 --> 00:42:55,278 That kind of narrative, as it started to leak out, 750 00:42:55,302 --> 00:42:58,378 kind of gave me pause because something like this, 751 00:42:58,402 --> 00:42:59,808 from what I understood, 752 00:42:59,832 --> 00:43:02,638 was going after a, you know, a highly targeted, 753 00:43:02,662 --> 00:43:06,008 well-known terrorist commander 754 00:43:06,032 --> 00:43:07,508 and would have had a lot of visibility. 755 00:43:07,532 --> 00:43:10,408 So to think that the team could just kind of go rogue 756 00:43:10,432 --> 00:43:12,638 on its own just didn't make sense to me. 757 00:43:12,662 --> 00:43:18,208 I don't buy the fact that the ODA submitted their plan, 758 00:43:18,232 --> 00:43:21,108 and then at the last minute, 759 00:43:21,132 --> 00:43:23,508 rolled over in their trucks to... to the Nigeriens 760 00:43:23,532 --> 00:43:25,378 and said, "Let's go. 761 00:43:25,402 --> 00:43:28,138 We're... We'll tell you when we get there." 762 00:43:28,162 --> 00:43:30,578 It doesn't work like that. That's not how we operate. 763 00:43:30,602 --> 00:43:35,138 Going after a high-value target, 764 00:43:35,162 --> 00:43:38,338 like this gentleman, is a top-down process, 765 00:43:38,362 --> 00:43:40,008 and it is top-down approved. 766 00:43:40,032 --> 00:43:42,678 It's a 4-star-level approval con-op. 767 00:43:42,702 --> 00:43:45,238 You don't... You can't get away with cutting and pasting 768 00:43:45,262 --> 00:43:46,778 and, you know, getting in your trucks 769 00:43:46,802 --> 00:43:49,438 and going, "Yeehaw," right? You just can't do it. 770 00:43:49,462 --> 00:43:51,208 They don't need to act like my son 771 00:43:51,232 --> 00:43:54,038 was some kind of damn Rambo 772 00:43:54,062 --> 00:43:57,878 out there on his own doing something. 773 00:43:57,902 --> 00:44:00,878 Because all he was doing was what he was told, 774 00:44:00,902 --> 00:44:04,262 and... he fought his ass off. 775 00:44:12,402 --> 00:44:15,808 On September 28, I left Niger 776 00:44:15,832 --> 00:44:18,008 and went back to Fort Bragg, North Carolina, 777 00:44:18,032 --> 00:44:20,338 where my pregnant wife and daughter 778 00:44:20,362 --> 00:44:22,178 were waiting for me. 779 00:44:22,202 --> 00:44:25,708 We went to the hospital on October 1st 780 00:44:25,732 --> 00:44:27,208 for my wife to be induced, 781 00:44:27,232 --> 00:44:30,308 and my second daughter was born 782 00:44:30,332 --> 00:44:33,202 early in the morning on October 2nd. 783 00:44:37,102 --> 00:44:38,908 On the morning of October 4th, 784 00:44:38,932 --> 00:44:40,478 we're getting ready to be discharged. 785 00:44:40,502 --> 00:44:43,538 I brought the car seat up, get the baby loaded up, 786 00:44:43,562 --> 00:44:46,738 and my phone, uh, received a text message 787 00:44:46,762 --> 00:44:50,638 and all it said was, "You need to come in to work. 788 00:44:50,662 --> 00:44:53,938 Something has happened." 789 00:44:53,962 --> 00:44:56,578 Exactly what did happen is in dispute. 790 00:44:56,602 --> 00:44:59,908 The United States Africa Command released their version 791 00:44:59,932 --> 00:45:04,938 of the events in this 268-page, heavily redacted report. 792 00:45:04,962 --> 00:45:06,478 It's a combination of facts 793 00:45:06,502 --> 00:45:09,208 and what many people close to the investigation say 794 00:45:09,232 --> 00:45:13,338 are omitted details and unsubstantiated opinion. 795 00:45:13,362 --> 00:45:15,638 The teams manning for this mission... 796 00:45:15,662 --> 00:45:18,178 Accompanying the report was a narrated video 797 00:45:18,202 --> 00:45:20,678 with mission footage and animation 798 00:45:20,702 --> 00:45:22,678 to support AFRICOM's account 799 00:45:22,702 --> 00:45:25,978 of what went wrong on the ill-fated mission. 800 00:45:26,002 --> 00:45:28,608 "Team Quallam and partner forces 801 00:45:28,632 --> 00:45:30,038 depart at Camp Quallam 802 00:45:30,062 --> 00:45:34,508 at 5:59 on October 3rd, 2017, 803 00:45:34,532 --> 00:45:38,708 traveling in a military convoy in a northwest direction." 804 00:45:38,732 --> 00:45:40,608 The teams' U. S. Soft personnel 805 00:45:40,632 --> 00:45:42,508 traveled in three vehicles, 806 00:45:42,532 --> 00:45:46,508 two of which were equipped with mounted M240 machine guns. 807 00:45:46,532 --> 00:45:48,278 The 34 Nigerien personnel 808 00:45:48,302 --> 00:45:50,478 traveled in five additional vehicles. 809 00:45:50,502 --> 00:45:53,578 "The convoy continued from checkpoint one 810 00:45:53,602 --> 00:45:57,078 in the northeastern direction for 43 kilometers, 811 00:45:57,102 --> 00:45:59,708 arriving 5 miles south of Tiloa 812 00:45:59,732 --> 00:46:03,308 on approximately ten hundred hours." 813 00:46:03,332 --> 00:46:04,738 The concept of operations 814 00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:06,838 that was submitted for approval stated 815 00:46:06,862 --> 00:46:09,838 that the purpose of the mission was to conduct a civil 816 00:46:09,862 --> 00:46:13,438 and military reconnaissance in the vicinity of Tiloa. 817 00:46:13,462 --> 00:46:16,208 The plan, submitted to higher headquarters, 818 00:46:16,232 --> 00:46:20,578 called for them to do a patrol that would include a series 819 00:46:20,602 --> 00:46:22,878 of what we call key leader engagements 820 00:46:22,902 --> 00:46:25,008 to meet with local leaders, 821 00:46:25,032 --> 00:46:27,138 discuss the situation on the ground, 822 00:46:27,162 --> 00:46:29,208 and, if possible, find any intelligence leads 823 00:46:29,232 --> 00:46:31,262 that the locals may be able to give them. 824 00:46:34,402 --> 00:46:36,908 The mission plan did not accurately characterize 825 00:46:36,932 --> 00:46:39,178 the intended purpose of the mission. 826 00:46:39,202 --> 00:46:44,238 From the beginning, everything was negative about the team. 827 00:46:44,262 --> 00:46:48,338 Basically, what they said was the team leader lied 828 00:46:48,362 --> 00:46:54,308 in the brief that he submitted to hire for the mission. 829 00:46:54,332 --> 00:46:56,478 The mission was, in fact, 830 00:46:56,502 --> 00:46:59,338 to pinpoint the location of and capture 831 00:46:59,362 --> 00:47:03,038 or, if necessary, kill the ISIS-GS sub-commander. 832 00:47:03,062 --> 00:47:06,308 I have a really hard time believing that to be the case. 833 00:47:06,332 --> 00:47:08,878 Doundou Chefou was identified 834 00:47:08,902 --> 00:47:13,438 as a leader of the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara, 835 00:47:13,462 --> 00:47:15,808 and to say that the ODA went rogue 836 00:47:15,832 --> 00:47:17,708 and not only the detachment commander, 837 00:47:17,732 --> 00:47:19,178 but that the team sergeant 838 00:47:19,202 --> 00:47:21,638 and all these other experienced NCOs 839 00:47:21,662 --> 00:47:24,778 all agreed to go on a mission 840 00:47:24,802 --> 00:47:26,408 to kill or capture Doundou Chefou 841 00:47:26,432 --> 00:47:30,178 and just blatantly lie, it would be a big deal. 842 00:47:30,202 --> 00:47:32,378 A captain on an "A" team 843 00:47:32,402 --> 00:47:35,638 does not have the authority or the power 844 00:47:35,662 --> 00:47:38,078 to make those decisions. 845 00:47:38,102 --> 00:47:39,878 I didn't have any inside information telling me all this, 846 00:47:39,902 --> 00:47:41,838 but I just know, as an infantry man, 847 00:47:41,862 --> 00:47:43,078 we would never do that. 848 00:47:43,102 --> 00:47:46,038 We would never go on a rogue mission 849 00:47:46,062 --> 00:47:48,108 outside the wire to track down somebody. 850 00:47:48,132 --> 00:47:51,362 And so, it just did not smell truthful. 851 00:47:52,762 --> 00:47:55,208 Once in Tiloa, the team searched for 852 00:47:55,232 --> 00:47:57,108 but could not successfully locate 853 00:47:57,132 --> 00:47:59,978 the ISIS-GS sub-commander. 854 00:48:00,002 --> 00:48:01,878 They conducted the rest of their mission 855 00:48:01,902 --> 00:48:03,832 and began their return to base. 856 00:48:11,132 --> 00:48:13,038 The first mission had been completed. 857 00:48:13,062 --> 00:48:14,478 They made it to Tiloa. 858 00:48:14,502 --> 00:48:18,208 They checked on the Nigerien checkpoint that was out there 859 00:48:18,232 --> 00:48:22,102 and the team was returning back to base in Quallam. 860 00:48:23,802 --> 00:48:28,278 "At approximately 1700 hours on 3 October 2017, 861 00:48:28,302 --> 00:48:29,938 Team Quallam's convoy halted 862 00:48:29,962 --> 00:48:32,678 approximately 5 kilometers south of..." 863 00:48:32,702 --> 00:48:36,308 "...in order to receive additional information 864 00:48:36,332 --> 00:48:38,278 for a possible remission." 865 00:48:38,302 --> 00:48:40,738 Well, they go... They headed back to base. 866 00:48:40,762 --> 00:48:41,938 End of the day. 867 00:48:41,962 --> 00:48:45,302 And, um, they got to change the mission. 868 00:48:47,262 --> 00:48:50,078 During the team's return to base from Tiloa, 869 00:48:50,102 --> 00:48:52,378 they received high-confidence intelligence 870 00:48:52,402 --> 00:48:54,738 that placed the ISIS-GS sub-commander 871 00:48:54,762 --> 00:48:57,732 northwest of Tiloa, near the Mali border. 872 00:48:58,962 --> 00:49:04,008 This is when they were redirected to go to a location 873 00:49:04,032 --> 00:49:06,738 where the higher headquarters believe that Doundou Chefou, 874 00:49:06,762 --> 00:49:09,778 or at least a cellphone associated with him, 875 00:49:09,802 --> 00:49:11,808 had been present for the night. 876 00:49:11,832 --> 00:49:13,708 This time-sensitive intelligence 877 00:49:13,732 --> 00:49:16,338 gave the Nigerien and U. S. Forces 878 00:49:16,362 --> 00:49:19,738 a narrow window to capture him while he remained in Niger. 879 00:49:19,762 --> 00:49:20,878 At this point, 880 00:49:20,902 --> 00:49:22,978 you have Colonel Brad Moses getting involved 881 00:49:23,002 --> 00:49:25,338 and Lieutenant Colonel Painter getting involved. 882 00:49:25,362 --> 00:49:26,738 Lieutenant Colonel Painter 883 00:49:26,762 --> 00:49:29,338 was the Special Forces battalion commander, 884 00:49:29,362 --> 00:49:35,038 and he was also, uh, the task force commander there 885 00:49:35,062 --> 00:49:36,208 on the... on the continent. 886 00:49:36,232 --> 00:49:38,808 The approved concept of operation 887 00:49:38,832 --> 00:49:41,938 called for another U. S. And Nigerien partnered force 888 00:49:41,962 --> 00:49:44,638 to clear the target, with the Quallam-based team 889 00:49:44,662 --> 00:49:46,978 serving as a quick reaction force. 890 00:49:47,002 --> 00:49:48,038 The new mission called 891 00:49:48,062 --> 00:49:50,338 for a second, more seasoned ODA team 892 00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:52,078 to fly in on helicopters 893 00:49:52,102 --> 00:49:54,608 and raid the campsite of Doundou Chefou. 894 00:49:54,632 --> 00:49:57,008 That's the same ISIS commander who the team 895 00:49:57,032 --> 00:49:59,978 was accused of going rogue to hunt down. 896 00:50:00,002 --> 00:50:02,338 So at this point, ODA 3212, 897 00:50:02,362 --> 00:50:04,978 also referred to as the Quallam-based team, 898 00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:07,378 is ordered to play a backup role. 899 00:50:07,402 --> 00:50:11,362 Their job will be to reinforce their comrades if they need it. 900 00:50:12,802 --> 00:50:15,278 However, due to weather constraints, 901 00:50:15,302 --> 00:50:18,032 the other team was forced to return to base. 902 00:50:20,032 --> 00:50:24,138 The initial ODA coming from another part of Niger 903 00:50:24,162 --> 00:50:26,338 couldn't make it due to weather conditions, 904 00:50:26,362 --> 00:50:29,778 and now the responsibility goes to Jeremiah's team. 905 00:50:29,802 --> 00:50:31,978 Instead of ending the mission 906 00:50:32,002 --> 00:50:35,408 and 3212 going back to camp, 907 00:50:35,432 --> 00:50:39,178 they told them to continue without the other forces 908 00:50:39,202 --> 00:50:41,308 being a part. 909 00:50:41,332 --> 00:50:43,238 Upon receipt of that directive, 910 00:50:43,262 --> 00:50:46,938 Team Quallam's mission changed from providing a flexible, 911 00:50:46,962 --> 00:50:51,008 redacted force to capturing and detaining." 912 00:50:51,032 --> 00:50:52,638 Now, you might think that the team would be thrilled 913 00:50:52,662 --> 00:50:54,938 to be the main reigning force. 914 00:50:54,962 --> 00:50:56,738 After all, according to the AFRICOM report, 915 00:50:56,762 --> 00:51:00,262 they had just set out on a rogue mission to do exactly that. 916 00:51:02,332 --> 00:51:04,138 Have you ever seen that image? 917 00:51:04,162 --> 00:51:05,938 No, I've never seen this image. 918 00:51:05,962 --> 00:51:08,878 But that's Captain Mike Perozeni on a satellite phone 919 00:51:08,902 --> 00:51:13,378 not looking happy, concerned. 920 00:51:13,402 --> 00:51:15,338 Captain Perozeni was assigned 921 00:51:15,362 --> 00:51:19,008 as the Special Forces detachment commander, 922 00:51:19,032 --> 00:51:23,138 so he is the senior officer on that detachment 923 00:51:23,162 --> 00:51:26,808 and is responsible for the conduct of all their operations. 924 00:51:26,832 --> 00:51:28,338 According to those who were there, 925 00:51:28,362 --> 00:51:30,778 this is one of the moments when the detachment commander, 926 00:51:30,802 --> 00:51:32,408 Captain Mike Perozeni, 927 00:51:32,432 --> 00:51:34,978 was pushing back against the new orders. 928 00:51:35,002 --> 00:51:37,578 He spoke to his command in satellite phone calls 929 00:51:37,602 --> 00:51:39,208 and text messages, 930 00:51:39,232 --> 00:51:42,738 telling them that to head north deep into unfamiliar desert 931 00:51:42,762 --> 00:51:44,208 with no backup force available, 932 00:51:44,232 --> 00:51:47,108 no possibility of speedy medical evacuation, 933 00:51:47,132 --> 00:51:49,578 an exhausted Nigerien partner force, 934 00:51:49,602 --> 00:51:53,978 and his own lightly armed team was needlessly risky. 935 00:51:54,002 --> 00:51:58,178 He protested vigorously is my understanding. 936 00:51:58,202 --> 00:52:01,638 He knew that they weren't... equipped. 937 00:52:01,662 --> 00:52:04,732 He knew that that wasn't their mission. 938 00:52:06,762 --> 00:52:09,378 That's not what they were there for. 939 00:52:09,402 --> 00:52:12,708 He objected because he knew that his unit 940 00:52:12,732 --> 00:52:17,608 was not prepared to do this... This new mission 941 00:52:17,632 --> 00:52:19,278 because they left for a day trip, 942 00:52:19,302 --> 00:52:24,878 not an overnight movement, and not to go fight somebody. 943 00:52:24,902 --> 00:52:27,678 In Mike Perozeni's mind on the ground, 944 00:52:27,702 --> 00:52:29,938 he's identifying risk. 945 00:52:29,962 --> 00:52:33,708 He was communicating back to the company headquarters 946 00:52:33,732 --> 00:52:36,538 and ultimately back up to Lieutenant Colonel Painter 947 00:52:36,562 --> 00:52:40,038 the risks that were involved from his standpoint 948 00:52:40,062 --> 00:52:41,208 on the ground. 949 00:52:41,232 --> 00:52:45,238 Now, deep in the highly censored AFRICOM report, 950 00:52:45,262 --> 00:52:47,238 they do acknowledge that Captain Perozeni 951 00:52:47,262 --> 00:52:49,308 tried to have the mission scrubbed. 952 00:52:49,332 --> 00:52:50,938 "In order to conduct this raid, 953 00:52:50,962 --> 00:52:52,808 Team Quallam and their partner force 954 00:52:52,832 --> 00:52:55,678 would have to move an additional 25 kilometers north 955 00:52:55,702 --> 00:52:59,338 through difficult terrain under limited visibility. 956 00:52:59,362 --> 00:53:00,908 Given that distance to travel..." 957 00:53:00,932 --> 00:53:02,738 "...and the fact that his partner force 958 00:53:02,762 --> 00:53:08,238 have been up for over 18 hours, redacted expressed to redacted 959 00:53:08,262 --> 00:53:11,408 his preference that the force return to base." 960 00:53:11,432 --> 00:53:14,578 "...redacted relayed redacted's preference 961 00:53:14,602 --> 00:53:15,778 to redacted." 962 00:53:15,802 --> 00:53:18,708 "...but redacted directed that redacted 963 00:53:18,732 --> 00:53:22,738 move to objective north and conduct the raid." 964 00:53:22,762 --> 00:53:24,408 I highly doubt 965 00:53:24,432 --> 00:53:29,078 that Mike politely, uh, expressed a "preference" 966 00:53:29,102 --> 00:53:33,778 as it said in the investigation of... of his concerns. 967 00:53:33,802 --> 00:53:35,908 Mike will speak his mind. 968 00:53:35,932 --> 00:53:38,978 Mike, uh, will not hold anything back, 969 00:53:39,002 --> 00:53:42,638 and so I have no doubt that he expressed those concerns. 970 00:53:42,662 --> 00:53:45,638 The U. S. Special Forces commander for Northwest Africa 971 00:53:45,662 --> 00:53:47,138 was Lieutenant Colonel David Painter, 972 00:53:47,162 --> 00:53:49,678 who was hundreds of miles away in Chad, 973 00:53:49,702 --> 00:53:52,678 and he overruled Captain Perozeni's objections. 974 00:53:52,702 --> 00:53:54,108 Colonel Brad Moses, 975 00:53:54,132 --> 00:53:57,578 the 3rd Special Forces group commander based in Germany, 976 00:53:57,602 --> 00:54:00,308 also was informed of the changes to mission 977 00:54:00,332 --> 00:54:03,408 and that Perozeni and ODA 3212 978 00:54:03,432 --> 00:54:07,208 were now going to be the main force raiding the campsite. 979 00:54:07,232 --> 00:54:09,638 But Colonel Moses told me that Lieutenant Colonel Painter 980 00:54:09,662 --> 00:54:12,538 did not tell him about Captain Perozeni's objections 981 00:54:12,562 --> 00:54:13,878 to going forward. 982 00:54:13,902 --> 00:54:16,378 He says had he known about the captain's concerns 983 00:54:16,402 --> 00:54:19,778 about the mission, he would have called him directly. 984 00:54:19,802 --> 00:54:22,708 They were told to go anyway. 985 00:54:22,732 --> 00:54:26,132 They didn't care that there was no backup for those boys. 986 00:54:28,032 --> 00:54:33,838 The way I operated as a... As commander of SOC Africa was, 987 00:54:33,862 --> 00:54:37,308 my guys on the ground tell me what they're going to do 988 00:54:37,332 --> 00:54:39,638 and what they're not going to do, right, 989 00:54:39,662 --> 00:54:41,308 based off of the risk. 990 00:54:41,332 --> 00:54:43,138 And the captain tells me... 991 00:54:43,162 --> 00:54:45,008 A team leader on the ground tells me... 992 00:54:45,032 --> 00:54:47,778 "Hey, sir." Or it comes up through the chain. 993 00:54:47,802 --> 00:54:49,838 "No way. This is just... 994 00:54:49,862 --> 00:54:51,778 I just don't feel comfortable with it." 995 00:54:51,802 --> 00:54:53,578 Then the brake goes on hard. 996 00:54:53,602 --> 00:54:56,508 I guess one big question that comes to mind with all this 997 00:54:56,532 --> 00:54:59,338 is if your captain had come up with this plan 998 00:54:59,362 --> 00:55:01,038 and "We're gonna... We're gonna make our bones. 999 00:55:01,062 --> 00:55:02,308 We're gonna make our careers. 1000 00:55:02,332 --> 00:55:04,178 We're gonna go kill this guy or capture him 1001 00:55:04,202 --> 00:55:05,278 and we'll be the heroes," 1002 00:55:05,302 --> 00:55:06,878 or whatever their motives would have been, 1003 00:55:06,902 --> 00:55:08,878 if Africa command was correct, 1004 00:55:08,902 --> 00:55:11,778 that that's what they were doing from the start, 1005 00:55:11,802 --> 00:55:13,538 if all that was true, 1006 00:55:13,562 --> 00:55:15,838 why would this guy, Captain Mike Perozeni, 1007 00:55:15,862 --> 00:55:19,338 object to searching his target's campsite? 1008 00:55:19,362 --> 00:55:20,432 It makes no sense. 1009 00:55:21,862 --> 00:55:24,108 Why would he push back now 1010 00:55:24,132 --> 00:55:27,178 if he was supposedly on board at the very front? 1011 00:55:27,202 --> 00:55:30,178 Why would he be issuing or expressing concerns 1012 00:55:30,202 --> 00:55:34,378 about not being equipped or prepared 1013 00:55:34,402 --> 00:55:36,778 if that was his intent all along? 1014 00:55:36,802 --> 00:55:38,408 Not only did Captain Perozeni 1015 00:55:38,432 --> 00:55:40,338 object to the missions assigned in the field, 1016 00:55:40,362 --> 00:55:42,838 he first voiced concerns before his team 1017 00:55:42,862 --> 00:55:44,578 even left their base in Quallam. 1018 00:55:44,602 --> 00:55:46,738 The people in my company headquarters 1019 00:55:46,762 --> 00:55:49,638 knew that Mike pushed back. 1020 00:55:49,662 --> 00:55:51,678 So why that wasn't shared with the families, 1021 00:55:51,702 --> 00:55:54,978 I'll never know, but I will say there's no reason 1022 00:55:55,002 --> 00:55:57,138 it should not have been shared with the families. 1023 00:55:57,162 --> 00:56:01,208 I was left with the impression that this guy was a screw-up. 1024 00:56:01,232 --> 00:56:05,538 And he screwed up and carried my son off and got him killed 1025 00:56:05,562 --> 00:56:10,508 because that's what I was led to believe. 1026 00:56:10,532 --> 00:56:13,608 And I think that's probably the biggest injustice 1027 00:56:13,632 --> 00:56:17,478 was I walked around pissed off for a year 1028 00:56:17,502 --> 00:56:21,238 and my anger was directed toward somebody 1029 00:56:21,262 --> 00:56:25,078 that was completely innocent of what they told me he did. 1030 00:56:25,102 --> 00:56:27,738 It's clear that if he had been listened to, 1031 00:56:27,762 --> 00:56:32,638 my son and Jeremiah, 1032 00:56:32,662 --> 00:56:36,232 La David, and Dustin would be here today. 1033 00:56:37,732 --> 00:56:41,808 The only reason why they would accuse Captain Perozeni 1034 00:56:41,832 --> 00:56:45,778 and the team of lying and mischaracterizing 1035 00:56:45,802 --> 00:56:51,338 is to somehow absolve the chain of command above them 1036 00:56:51,362 --> 00:56:55,238 and basically say because they went out under false pretenses, 1037 00:56:55,262 --> 00:56:57,808 they put themselves in a bad situation 1038 00:56:57,832 --> 00:57:00,262 and are therefore responsible for what happened. 1039 00:57:02,362 --> 00:57:04,008 There's no way... 1040 00:57:04,032 --> 00:57:09,208 Like I say, anybody with any common sense 1041 00:57:09,232 --> 00:57:12,138 would be headed back to base 1042 00:57:12,162 --> 00:57:13,878 and then all of a sudden decide to turn around 1043 00:57:13,902 --> 00:57:16,832 and go six hours the other way in the middle of the night. 1044 00:57:18,932 --> 00:57:20,638 Through the night of October 3rd, 1045 00:57:20,662 --> 00:57:24,508 the team made the difficult movement north to the target. 1046 00:57:24,532 --> 00:57:26,378 They traveled from late afternoon 1047 00:57:26,402 --> 00:57:29,578 till early the next morning to get to the position. 1048 00:57:29,602 --> 00:57:31,708 On the morning of October 4th, 1049 00:57:31,732 --> 00:57:34,338 the team reached the objective at sunrise, 1050 00:57:34,362 --> 00:57:37,908 but the enemy had already departed the area. 1051 00:57:37,932 --> 00:57:40,108 The team discovered enemy rations, 1052 00:57:40,132 --> 00:57:44,538 a motorcycle, drying uniforms, and warm fire pits. 1053 00:57:44,562 --> 00:57:47,008 This campsite was abandoned. 1054 00:57:47,032 --> 00:57:49,378 Nothing there to speak of. 1055 00:57:49,402 --> 00:57:50,778 And that they were just gonna go off 1056 00:57:50,802 --> 00:57:55,438 looking for trash and pocket litter. 1057 00:57:55,462 --> 00:57:57,608 In the middle of the desert, 1058 00:57:57,632 --> 00:57:59,738 there is nothing urgent enough 1059 00:57:59,762 --> 00:58:02,778 to send an improperly supplied element 1060 00:58:02,802 --> 00:58:04,838 that far out into the desert. 1061 00:58:04,862 --> 00:58:07,478 After completing the mission near the Mali border, 1062 00:58:07,502 --> 00:58:11,562 the team was directed by AOB Niger to return to base. 1063 00:58:21,462 --> 00:58:23,308 While returning to base, 1064 00:58:23,332 --> 00:58:26,938 Team Quallam's partner, Nigerien forces, needed water, 1065 00:58:26,962 --> 00:58:28,208 so the convoy stopped 1066 00:58:28,232 --> 00:58:31,662 near the village of Tongo Tongo to resupply. 1067 00:58:33,702 --> 00:58:35,278 As the team waited, 1068 00:58:35,302 --> 00:58:38,338 they conducted an impromptu key leader engagement 1069 00:58:38,362 --> 00:58:40,578 with the village elder. 1070 00:58:40,602 --> 00:58:42,308 During the key leader engagement, 1071 00:58:42,332 --> 00:58:47,708 team members met with leaders and 27 men of the village. 1072 00:58:47,732 --> 00:58:50,238 The meeting lasted about 30 minutes longer 1073 00:58:50,262 --> 00:58:52,708 than the team commander expected. 1074 00:58:52,732 --> 00:58:54,278 "Witnesses believe the village owner 1075 00:58:54,302 --> 00:58:57,308 deliberately delayed the convoy from departing in an effort 1076 00:58:57,332 --> 00:59:00,478 to allow the enemy time to set up the ambush." 1077 00:59:00,502 --> 00:59:02,238 At 11:35 hours, 1078 00:59:02,262 --> 00:59:04,008 the team moved out of the village 1079 00:59:04,032 --> 00:59:06,608 of Tongo Tongo on their planned route. 1080 00:59:06,632 --> 00:59:08,708 "The convoy traveled southeast 1081 00:59:08,732 --> 00:59:10,838 along the eastern edge of the village. 1082 00:59:10,862 --> 00:59:12,308 Shortly thereafter, 1083 00:59:12,332 --> 00:59:14,878 a villager approaching the village from the tree line 1084 00:59:14,902 --> 00:59:17,778 to the east directed the convoy down a road, 1085 00:59:17,802 --> 00:59:20,108 which appeared to cut through the wood line 1086 00:59:20,132 --> 00:59:22,238 due east from Tongo Tongo." 1087 00:59:22,262 --> 00:59:24,408 "As the convoy moved through the narrow road 1088 00:59:24,432 --> 00:59:26,278 between two wood lines, 1089 00:59:26,302 --> 00:59:28,478 the vehicles to the rear of the convoy 1090 00:59:28,502 --> 00:59:30,462 began to receive small-arms fire." 1091 00:59:32,332 --> 00:59:34,308 At this point, the convoy halted. 1092 00:59:34,332 --> 00:59:38,038 The team reported enemy contact to the advanced operating base 1093 00:59:38,062 --> 00:59:40,238 and returned small-arms fire. 1094 00:59:40,262 --> 00:59:43,138 "I was starting to pick back up even more. 1095 00:59:43,162 --> 00:59:46,008 I could see Jeremiah, Dustin, Bryan 1096 00:59:46,032 --> 00:59:48,738 shooting their M4s at muzzle flashes 1097 00:59:48,762 --> 00:59:52,008 and suspected likely enemy locations." 1098 00:59:52,032 --> 00:59:53,778 After the first shots were fired, 1099 00:59:53,802 --> 00:59:58,808 most of the three dozen Nigerien troops with the ODA fled, 1100 00:59:58,832 --> 01:00:01,138 leaving less than a dozen to fight out the battle 1101 01:00:01,162 --> 01:00:03,878 alongside the American team. 1102 01:00:03,902 --> 01:00:05,208 "Realizing then 1103 01:00:05,232 --> 01:00:07,508 that the team was significantly outnumbered 1104 01:00:07,532 --> 01:00:09,378 by a well-trained force, 1105 01:00:09,402 --> 01:00:13,008 Team Quallam's commander ordered everyone to break contact 1106 01:00:13,032 --> 01:00:14,962 and to withdraw to the south." 1107 01:00:17,162 --> 01:00:18,608 As the rest of the team 1108 01:00:18,632 --> 01:00:20,208 loaded into their vehicles, 1109 01:00:20,232 --> 01:00:24,108 they saw Staff Sergeants Bryan Black, Jeremiah Johnson, 1110 01:00:24,132 --> 01:00:28,278 and Dustin Wright in the vicinity of U. S. Vehicle 2. 1111 01:00:28,302 --> 01:00:30,908 The team commander signaled to begin movement, 1112 01:00:30,932 --> 01:00:32,938 and Staff Sergeant Jeremiah Johnson 1113 01:00:32,962 --> 01:00:36,038 acknowledged the order with a thumbs-up. 1114 01:00:36,062 --> 01:00:38,008 A team member threw a smoke grenade 1115 01:00:38,032 --> 01:00:40,508 to conceal the team's movement. 1116 01:00:40,532 --> 01:00:43,038 No one knows exactly what happened, 1117 01:00:43,062 --> 01:00:46,838 why U. S. Vehicle 2 with Bryan, Dustin, and Jeremiah 1118 01:00:46,862 --> 01:00:49,808 did not follow the rest of the team out of the kill zone. 1119 01:00:49,832 --> 01:00:51,438 But now they were alone. 1120 01:00:51,462 --> 01:00:54,002 A large attacking force descended upon them. 1121 01:00:56,132 --> 01:00:58,878 Staff Sergeant Wright began driving U. S. Vehicle 2 1122 01:00:58,902 --> 01:00:59,938 slowly south, 1123 01:00:59,962 --> 01:01:01,408 while Staff Sergeant Black 1124 01:01:01,432 --> 01:01:03,308 and Staff Sergeant Jeremiah Johnson 1125 01:01:03,332 --> 01:01:05,438 walked along next to the vehicle, 1126 01:01:05,462 --> 01:01:07,608 providing suppressive fire. 1127 01:01:07,632 --> 01:01:09,808 "During the movement, enemy small-arms fire 1128 01:01:09,832 --> 01:01:12,602 hit Staff Sergeant Black, killing him instantly." 1129 01:01:29,902 --> 01:01:33,878 We saw Bryan Black fall first. 1130 01:01:33,902 --> 01:01:38,608 Watch Dustin and Jeremiah pull him back to safety, 1131 01:01:38,632 --> 01:01:41,278 realizing that Bryan had lost his life. 1132 01:01:41,302 --> 01:01:45,402 Jeremiah and Dustin tried to leave the area. 1133 01:01:46,862 --> 01:01:48,638 But there was no, uh, 1134 01:01:48,662 --> 01:01:51,938 no support fire from the other team members. 1135 01:01:51,962 --> 01:01:54,162 They were just left to fend for themselves. 1136 01:02:02,132 --> 01:02:03,938 "Overrun by enemy fighters, 1137 01:02:03,962 --> 01:02:05,238 Staff Sergeant Wright 1138 01:02:05,262 --> 01:02:07,478 and Staff Sergeant Jeremiah Johnson 1139 01:02:07,502 --> 01:02:09,938 were forced to evade on foot. 1140 01:02:09,962 --> 01:02:12,938 Approximately 85 meters from the vehicle, 1141 01:02:12,962 --> 01:02:15,608 enemy small-arms fire 1142 01:02:15,632 --> 01:02:18,302 hit Staff Sergeant Jeremiah Johnson..." 1143 01:02:20,932 --> 01:02:22,902 "...severely wounding him." 1144 01:02:38,062 --> 01:02:40,208 "Staff Sergeant Wright stopped, 1145 01:02:40,232 --> 01:02:43,378 returned to Staff Sergeant J. Johnson 1146 01:02:43,402 --> 01:02:45,808 and continued to engage the enemy..." 1147 01:02:45,832 --> 01:02:48,978 "...attempting to protect Staff Sergeant Johnson, 1148 01:02:49,002 --> 01:02:51,838 Staff Sergeant Wright fired his M4 1149 01:02:51,862 --> 01:02:54,938 at the enemy as they advanced on his position 1150 01:02:54,962 --> 01:02:57,008 until he was fatally wounded. 1151 01:02:57,032 --> 01:02:59,902 The enemy killed both soldiers with small-arms fire." 1152 01:03:03,802 --> 01:03:06,738 I know what it took to take him down. 1153 01:03:06,762 --> 01:03:09,538 And I'm proud of it. 1154 01:03:09,562 --> 01:03:13,008 It makes me want to strap on my boots and go back. 1155 01:03:13,032 --> 01:03:14,408 It does. 1156 01:03:14,432 --> 01:03:16,932 I have no problem with how he went. 1157 01:03:18,562 --> 01:03:20,678 I'm... I'm jealous. 1158 01:03:20,702 --> 01:03:25,438 That's... It's crazy, but as a warrior, I'm jealous. 1159 01:03:25,462 --> 01:03:30,432 He... He fought more than 10 men could fight. 1160 01:03:31,662 --> 01:03:33,508 Till his dying breath. 1161 01:03:33,532 --> 01:03:36,038 He did it for love. 1162 01:03:36,062 --> 01:03:39,438 He did it for the man standing next to him, so... 1163 01:03:39,462 --> 01:03:41,432 I don't have an issue with that at all. 1164 01:03:45,132 --> 01:03:46,438 The team quickly realized 1165 01:03:46,462 --> 01:03:48,408 that Bryan and Jeremiah and Dustin 1166 01:03:48,432 --> 01:03:50,108 had not followed them. 1167 01:03:50,132 --> 01:03:51,338 Four of the Green Berets 1168 01:03:51,362 --> 01:03:53,508 went off on foot to try to find them 1169 01:03:53,532 --> 01:03:56,008 but were pinned down by heavy fire. 1170 01:03:56,032 --> 01:03:57,708 The remainder of the team and their vehicles 1171 01:03:57,732 --> 01:03:59,578 were forced to withdraw again, 1172 01:03:59,602 --> 01:04:03,408 but this time La David and two Nigerien soldiers 1173 01:04:03,432 --> 01:04:05,678 were lost in the chaos. 1174 01:04:05,702 --> 01:04:07,138 Believing Sergeant Johnson 1175 01:04:07,162 --> 01:04:08,878 was in control of his vehicle, 1176 01:04:08,902 --> 01:04:10,838 the driver of U. S. Vehicle 1 1177 01:04:10,862 --> 01:04:13,202 accelerated hard to the northwest. 1178 01:04:14,602 --> 01:04:16,638 "Sergeant La David Johnson 1179 01:04:16,662 --> 01:04:18,108 and the two Nigerien soldiers 1180 01:04:18,132 --> 01:04:20,708 were unable to get into their vehicle 1181 01:04:20,732 --> 01:04:24,808 and with enemy forces rapidly closing on their position, 1182 01:04:24,832 --> 01:04:27,308 they were forced to evade on foot." 1183 01:04:27,332 --> 01:04:29,108 The Nigerien soldiers were killed 1184 01:04:29,132 --> 01:04:30,109 with small-arms fire. 1185 01:04:30,133 --> 01:04:33,138 Roughly 400 meters from position 2. 1186 01:04:33,162 --> 01:04:36,178 "Sergeant La David Johnson continued to evade, 1187 01:04:36,202 --> 01:04:39,978 running west for an additional 450 meters 1188 01:04:40,002 --> 01:04:44,078 before eventually seeking cover under a thorny tree. 1189 01:04:44,102 --> 01:04:48,978 Sergeant La David Johnson fired his U. S. M4 weapon 1190 01:04:49,002 --> 01:04:52,208 a total of five times on advancing enemy 1191 01:04:52,232 --> 01:04:54,032 before being killed." 1192 01:05:02,762 --> 01:05:05,908 The rest of 3212 had no idea that La David, 1193 01:05:05,932 --> 01:05:08,938 Bryan, Jeremiah, and Dustin had been killed, 1194 01:05:08,962 --> 01:05:11,138 along with four Nigerien soldiers 1195 01:05:11,162 --> 01:05:14,038 and a Nigerien civilian contractor. 1196 01:05:14,062 --> 01:05:15,808 Two other members of the team had been wounded, 1197 01:05:15,832 --> 01:05:18,678 including Captain Perozeni, who was shot in the side. 1198 01:05:18,702 --> 01:05:21,638 The six Americans and four Nigeriens remaining 1199 01:05:21,662 --> 01:05:24,562 were down to a total of 60 rounds of ammunition. 1200 01:05:26,302 --> 01:05:29,508 They made a desperate call on their radio... broken arrow, 1201 01:05:29,532 --> 01:05:31,608 which is a term that goes back to the Vietnam War 1202 01:05:31,632 --> 01:05:35,578 and means essentially all hope is lost. 1203 01:05:35,602 --> 01:05:38,038 "With enemy vehicles fast approaching, 1204 01:05:38,062 --> 01:05:41,108 Team Quallam and the Nigerien partners realized 1205 01:05:41,132 --> 01:05:44,638 their unit was being overwhelmed and radioed higher headquarters 1206 01:05:44,662 --> 01:05:48,538 for the first time since the initial contact." 1207 01:05:48,562 --> 01:05:50,778 Captain Perozeni texted frantic messages 1208 01:05:50,802 --> 01:05:52,132 to his headquarters, saying... 1209 01:05:57,032 --> 01:05:59,978 And two U. S. Commanders in Niger that day told me 1210 01:06:00,002 --> 01:06:02,378 that dozens of Special Forces soldiers 1211 01:06:02,402 --> 01:06:06,738 were eager to fly to Tongo Tongo to save ODA 3212. 1212 01:06:06,762 --> 01:06:08,038 One of those ODAs 1213 01:06:08,062 --> 01:06:10,238 had helicopters at their disposal, 1214 01:06:10,262 --> 01:06:11,708 immediately got in the air 1215 01:06:11,732 --> 01:06:14,838 and started flying in the direction of Tongo Tongo 1216 01:06:14,862 --> 01:06:17,038 because they were fighting tooth and nail 1217 01:06:17,062 --> 01:06:19,808 to get in there and help their brothers. 1218 01:06:19,832 --> 01:06:22,478 They radioed back to Lieutenant Colonel Painter 1219 01:06:22,502 --> 01:06:27,778 to receive permission to go in, and multiple times were denied. 1220 01:06:27,802 --> 01:06:30,108 Lieutenant Colonel Painter was the same officer 1221 01:06:30,132 --> 01:06:31,578 who, the night before, 1222 01:06:31,602 --> 01:06:33,838 had denied Captain Perozeni's request 1223 01:06:33,862 --> 01:06:35,002 to return to base. 1224 01:06:36,262 --> 01:06:39,638 At 14:58, a French Mirage fighter jet 1225 01:06:39,662 --> 01:06:41,138 made a show of force 1226 01:06:41,162 --> 01:06:45,938 by flying over the troops in contact site at a low altitude. 1227 01:06:45,962 --> 01:06:47,338 The enemy broke contact 1228 01:06:47,362 --> 01:06:51,178 and departed the area after the show of force. 1229 01:06:51,202 --> 01:06:53,078 The French were the ones, at the end of the day, 1230 01:06:53,102 --> 01:06:55,708 who came in as the quick-reaction force 1231 01:06:55,732 --> 01:06:57,938 and... and rescued the ODA. 1232 01:06:57,962 --> 01:07:02,538 And that really frustrated and... and pissed off the guys 1233 01:07:02,562 --> 01:07:04,178 who were sitting there at Quallam 1234 01:07:04,202 --> 01:07:07,108 with helicopters ready to go 1235 01:07:07,132 --> 01:07:11,708 and to this day does not sit well with a lot of the guys. 1236 01:07:11,732 --> 01:07:13,338 "French forces evacuated 1237 01:07:13,362 --> 01:07:15,778 the surviving members of Team Quallam 1238 01:07:15,802 --> 01:07:17,062 from the battlefield." 1239 01:07:23,662 --> 01:07:26,038 The deaths of the four Special Forces soldiers 1240 01:07:26,062 --> 01:07:28,038 and the failure to even rescue their own men 1241 01:07:28,062 --> 01:07:30,978 from the battlefield was a huge embarrassment. 1242 01:07:31,002 --> 01:07:33,508 And in spite of what AFRICOM claimed, 1243 01:07:33,532 --> 01:07:35,238 there was little or no evidence at all 1244 01:07:35,262 --> 01:07:38,478 that the team had gone rogue as they were accused of. 1245 01:07:38,502 --> 01:07:40,778 In fact, Captain Mike Perozeni 1246 01:07:40,802 --> 01:07:43,378 pushed back against the superior officers twice, 1247 01:07:43,402 --> 01:07:44,838 which begs the question... 1248 01:07:44,862 --> 01:07:47,838 Why were the captain's concerns overruled? 1249 01:07:47,862 --> 01:07:50,338 What was driving his immediate chain of command 1250 01:07:50,362 --> 01:07:53,078 to push ODA 3212 forward 1251 01:07:53,102 --> 01:07:54,932 against the team's better judgment? 1252 01:07:56,932 --> 01:07:59,178 And did a mysterious additional vehicle, 1253 01:07:59,202 --> 01:08:01,638 which joined the convoy as they left base 1254 01:08:01,662 --> 01:08:05,878 on October 3rd, factor in to that decision? 1255 01:08:05,902 --> 01:08:07,878 I've confirmed with intelligence officials 1256 01:08:07,902 --> 01:08:10,438 that what was identified in the AFRICOM animations 1257 01:08:10,462 --> 01:08:13,938 simply as a 3-man Nigerien reconnaissance team 1258 01:08:13,962 --> 01:08:16,838 and a truck they labeled Nigerien vehicle number 3 1259 01:08:16,862 --> 01:08:19,778 was, in fact, a team 1260 01:08:19,802 --> 01:08:22,162 of Nigerien CIA operatives. 1261 01:08:23,732 --> 01:08:26,378 It's not at all uncommon for CIA operatives 1262 01:08:26,402 --> 01:08:28,438 who are going into dangerous areas 1263 01:08:28,462 --> 01:08:31,538 to be in the company of U. S. Special Forces soldiers. 1264 01:08:31,562 --> 01:08:34,108 But because of the top-secret nature of their work, 1265 01:08:34,132 --> 01:08:36,638 it's not always clear to the troops they're operating with 1266 01:08:36,662 --> 01:08:39,608 what or who they're looking for. 1267 01:08:39,632 --> 01:08:42,308 In this case, the American trained and outfitted operatives 1268 01:08:42,332 --> 01:08:44,478 were carrying a sophisticated device 1269 01:08:44,502 --> 01:08:48,408 which can covertly lock onto and track a cellphone signal. 1270 01:08:48,432 --> 01:08:49,978 And with it, we have learned, 1271 01:08:50,002 --> 01:08:52,878 they were the ones who were hunting Doundou Chefou 1272 01:08:52,902 --> 01:08:56,478 in the hope that he would lead them to an even bigger prize... 1273 01:08:56,502 --> 01:08:59,738 An American Christian aid worker named Jeffery Woodke, 1274 01:08:59,762 --> 01:09:02,762 who was being held hostage somewhere in the region. 1275 01:09:07,362 --> 01:09:11,608 When Jeff was a child, he used to spin the globe 1276 01:09:11,632 --> 01:09:13,608 and look where he stopped. 1277 01:09:13,632 --> 01:09:15,538 And one time he stopped 1278 01:09:15,562 --> 01:09:17,878 and his finger was pointed at Niger. 1279 01:09:17,902 --> 01:09:19,408 And he told his mom, 1280 01:09:19,432 --> 01:09:23,338 "When I grew up, I'm gonna go to Niger." 1281 01:09:23,362 --> 01:09:26,678 When he was grown up, he remembered that moment 1282 01:09:26,702 --> 01:09:30,238 and he looked up and saw how poor the nation was 1283 01:09:30,262 --> 01:09:33,838 and when he sees suffering, he wants to alleviate it. 1284 01:09:33,862 --> 01:09:37,138 He looks for ways to help the people. 1285 01:09:37,162 --> 01:09:40,638 So he build wells. He did animal vaccinations. 1286 01:09:40,662 --> 01:09:45,062 He helped create schools for kids so they could be educated. 1287 01:09:46,302 --> 01:09:49,108 He worked very close with the local population 1288 01:09:49,132 --> 01:09:50,962 in view of their needs. 1289 01:09:53,502 --> 01:09:57,338 This was the start of the whole process 1290 01:09:57,362 --> 01:09:59,438 of the upwards budget. 1291 01:09:59,462 --> 01:10:00,508 That morning, 1292 01:10:00,532 --> 01:10:03,632 Jeff announced this special project. 1293 01:10:05,532 --> 01:10:07,138 We're seeing the video of Jeff 1294 01:10:07,162 --> 01:10:09,638 with the leaders of the community. 1295 01:10:09,662 --> 01:10:13,278 After all that, he went home. 1296 01:10:13,302 --> 01:10:14,602 And then it happened. 1297 01:10:16,932 --> 01:10:18,978 He heard... he heard shots. 1298 01:10:19,002 --> 01:10:20,002 He ran away. 1299 01:10:22,732 --> 01:10:24,332 He fleed. 1300 01:10:29,532 --> 01:10:31,202 But they... they got him. 1301 01:10:45,262 --> 01:10:48,102 Then it was just all a blur. 1302 01:10:51,162 --> 01:10:53,438 I just kept saying no. 1303 01:10:53,462 --> 01:10:56,738 It took a long time for me to, um, 1304 01:10:56,762 --> 01:11:00,078 to really accept the reality that it had really happened. 1305 01:11:00,102 --> 01:11:02,178 Yeah. 1306 01:11:02,202 --> 01:11:04,932 Yeah. 1307 01:11:07,162 --> 01:11:10,978 Certainly, we knew who Jeff Woodke was in Niger. 1308 01:11:11,002 --> 01:11:12,978 His clothes were in my headquarters, 1309 01:11:13,002 --> 01:11:16,138 so that should he be freed during our time there, 1310 01:11:16,162 --> 01:11:18,938 he would be brought through and given back his belongings 1311 01:11:18,962 --> 01:11:23,238 as part of his reintegration to feel human again. 1312 01:11:23,262 --> 01:11:27,938 But when ODA 3212 left the wire on their reconnaissance mission, 1313 01:11:27,962 --> 01:11:30,278 never was there an understanding 1314 01:11:30,302 --> 01:11:31,738 that it related to Jeffery Woodke. 1315 01:11:31,762 --> 01:11:33,908 It wasn't in any of the mission plans. 1316 01:11:33,932 --> 01:11:36,178 It was never told to me after the fact. 1317 01:11:36,202 --> 01:11:39,778 It was never in any of the conversations that took place. 1318 01:11:39,802 --> 01:11:41,338 Jeffery Woodke was never brought up 1319 01:11:41,362 --> 01:11:43,008 in any of the mission planning 1320 01:11:43,032 --> 01:11:45,308 and his name appears nowhere 1321 01:11:45,332 --> 01:11:49,308 in the 268-page redacted AFRICOM report. 1322 01:11:49,332 --> 01:11:50,878 Plus, the four families of the fallen 1323 01:11:50,902 --> 01:11:54,278 were never told about any connection between Woodke 1324 01:11:54,302 --> 01:11:58,408 and the missions until General Waldhauser alleged that 1325 01:11:58,432 --> 01:11:59,778 in his press conference, 1326 01:11:59,802 --> 01:12:01,878 shocking nearly everyone who heard it. 1327 01:12:01,902 --> 01:12:04,878 And I think it's important to underscore why then 1328 01:12:04,902 --> 01:12:06,238 was that mission undertaken? 1329 01:12:06,262 --> 01:12:08,178 Why was it so important to send those people up there? 1330 01:12:08,202 --> 01:12:10,478 We've had an American citizen by the name of Jeffery Woodke, 1331 01:12:10,502 --> 01:12:13,208 who's been captured and held hostage 1332 01:12:13,232 --> 01:12:16,178 in somewhere in that area for the last year and a half, 1333 01:12:16,202 --> 01:12:19,178 and there was a possibility that what they might find 1334 01:12:19,202 --> 01:12:21,338 at that target would be a piece of the puzzle 1335 01:12:21,362 --> 01:12:22,678 of the whole of government approach 1336 01:12:22,702 --> 01:12:24,838 to try to return an American who's been held hostage 1337 01:12:24,862 --> 01:12:26,408 for over a year and a half. 1338 01:12:26,432 --> 01:12:29,508 You'll recall at General Waldhauser's press briefing, 1339 01:12:29,532 --> 01:12:31,438 he wasn't asked a question about this, 1340 01:12:31,462 --> 01:12:35,008 but he just sort of brought up Jeffery Woodke. 1341 01:12:35,032 --> 01:12:38,808 And he said that third mission in searching that site 1342 01:12:38,832 --> 01:12:43,678 was to look for intelligence on that hostage Jeffery Woodke. 1343 01:12:43,702 --> 01:12:46,678 Is that something that you've ever heard? 1344 01:12:46,702 --> 01:12:48,408 I had never heard that, 1345 01:12:48,432 --> 01:12:52,578 and I don't recall that ever being part of the instructions 1346 01:12:52,602 --> 01:12:57,578 that were given to Captain Perozeni and his team. 1347 01:12:57,602 --> 01:13:01,538 So I'm not sure where that characterization came from. 1348 01:13:01,562 --> 01:13:03,338 Jeffery Woodke, 1349 01:13:03,362 --> 01:13:05,602 this hostage that's been held since October 2016. 1350 01:13:07,402 --> 01:13:08,708 Yeah. 1351 01:13:08,732 --> 01:13:10,308 His name come up in the briefings? 1352 01:13:10,332 --> 01:13:13,108 No, never once. 1353 01:13:13,132 --> 01:13:15,108 The mission was a sensitive site... 1354 01:13:15,132 --> 01:13:17,178 Clear a sensitive site for intelligence. 1355 01:13:17,202 --> 01:13:19,178 For General Waldhauser to say, 1356 01:13:19,202 --> 01:13:21,178 "We were out there looking for Jeff Woodke," 1357 01:13:21,202 --> 01:13:24,038 seemed like a convenient excuse on his part 1358 01:13:24,062 --> 01:13:26,078 as the commander of AFRICOM 1359 01:13:26,102 --> 01:13:31,408 to try and put a, uh, noble cause about what we were doing. 1360 01:13:31,432 --> 01:13:33,378 Does that change things, 1361 01:13:33,402 --> 01:13:37,408 how you see what Jeremiah was doing out there at all? 1362 01:13:37,432 --> 01:13:39,238 If he was part of a team that was helping 1363 01:13:39,262 --> 01:13:43,078 to facilitate efforts to locate and eventually recover 1364 01:13:43,102 --> 01:13:46,708 an American-held hostage by ISIS? 1365 01:13:46,732 --> 01:13:48,002 Yes and no. 1366 01:13:50,202 --> 01:13:52,302 It still could have waited another day. 1367 01:13:55,862 --> 01:14:01,208 I mean, I'm all for finding the American, definitely, but... 1368 01:14:01,232 --> 01:14:03,178 another day... 1369 01:14:03,202 --> 01:14:06,538 when they could have had backup 1370 01:14:06,562 --> 01:14:10,078 would have made a world of difference. 1371 01:14:10,102 --> 01:14:12,838 We'd have four boys back home, probably. 1372 01:14:12,862 --> 01:14:15,808 If this was indeed on my husband's behalf, 1373 01:14:15,832 --> 01:14:18,632 I would have to say thank you so very much. 1374 01:14:20,362 --> 01:14:22,702 I'm still I'm very sorry it happened. 1375 01:14:24,762 --> 01:14:26,278 And that would be a terrible burden 1376 01:14:26,302 --> 01:14:28,408 to know that people might die in the attempt 1377 01:14:28,432 --> 01:14:30,638 to rescue my husband. 1378 01:14:30,662 --> 01:14:32,832 I don't take that lightly. 1379 01:14:55,902 --> 01:14:57,978 - Colonel, come on in. - My name is Lieutenant Hudson. 1380 01:14:58,002 --> 01:14:59,878 - Tom, how are you? - Good. 1381 01:14:59,902 --> 01:15:03,538 - Real pleasure. - Come on in. 1382 01:15:03,562 --> 01:15:07,178 This week is about, you know, recognizing the valor. 1383 01:15:07,202 --> 01:15:09,808 You know, our gold star families and our fallen heroes... 1384 01:15:09,832 --> 01:15:11,538 National treasure. 1385 01:15:11,562 --> 01:15:12,678 Obviously there's nothing 1386 01:15:12,702 --> 01:15:16,338 I'm gonna be able to say that will, you know, 1387 01:15:16,362 --> 01:15:19,978 do much for your loss, frankly, but, you know... 1388 01:15:20,002 --> 01:15:22,408 Despite the fact the official military investigation 1389 01:15:22,432 --> 01:15:24,938 tarnished the actions of ODA 3212, 1390 01:15:24,962 --> 01:15:28,438 nearly two years after the attack in Tongo Tongo, 1391 01:15:28,462 --> 01:15:31,178 the fallen soldiers were finally given some recognition 1392 01:15:31,202 --> 01:15:33,008 for their sacrifices. 1393 01:15:33,032 --> 01:15:35,508 So I'd like to present you with the Bronze Star award. 1394 01:15:35,532 --> 01:15:37,578 Bronze Star with valor. 1395 01:15:37,602 --> 01:15:39,678 You can see the award there, 1396 01:15:39,702 --> 01:15:43,778 and you can read the citation there. 1397 01:15:43,802 --> 01:15:45,978 Well, thank you very much for bringing this down 1398 01:15:46,002 --> 01:15:48,102 - and presenting it to us. - Yes, ma'am. 1399 01:15:50,662 --> 01:15:54,002 - He's truly missed. - Yes. 1400 01:15:59,602 --> 01:16:01,108 He deserves it. 1401 01:16:01,132 --> 01:16:04,208 He's earned that honor. 1402 01:16:04,232 --> 01:16:07,308 But I've lost my child. 1403 01:16:07,332 --> 01:16:09,302 That's never gonna make that right. 1404 01:16:11,632 --> 01:16:14,932 But my son would not want me to turn my back on the military. 1405 01:16:17,102 --> 01:16:19,208 My stepson's in the military, in the Marine... 1406 01:16:19,232 --> 01:16:21,578 In the Marine Corps... Michael. 1407 01:16:21,602 --> 01:16:24,738 My grandson Danny is in the Army. 1408 01:16:24,762 --> 01:16:28,108 My granddaughter's in the Army Reserves... medic. 1409 01:16:28,132 --> 01:16:31,632 And I am still all for the military. 1410 01:16:33,402 --> 01:16:36,908 I am very... 1411 01:16:36,932 --> 01:16:40,078 very infuriated with the Army 1412 01:16:40,102 --> 01:16:41,962 and the ones involved with this. 1413 01:16:44,002 --> 01:16:45,608 I'm sure they wake up every morning now, 1414 01:16:45,632 --> 01:16:48,332 and they don't think about those four boys. 1415 01:16:49,662 --> 01:16:51,438 I wake up without my son every morning 1416 01:16:51,462 --> 01:16:53,302 just as the other parents do. 1417 01:16:56,432 --> 01:16:59,008 The wives wake up without their husbands, 1418 01:16:59,032 --> 01:17:02,778 the brothers and sisters wake up without their brother, 1419 01:17:02,802 --> 01:17:06,678 kids wake up without their dads, 1420 01:17:06,702 --> 01:17:12,402 and we deserve the full truth and some accountability. 1421 01:17:14,962 --> 01:17:18,708 I feel the pain of the families as much as I can. 1422 01:17:18,732 --> 01:17:20,108 I understand their grief. 1423 01:17:20,132 --> 01:17:22,578 I grieve with them for their loss. 1424 01:17:22,602 --> 01:17:24,802 And I think that they grieve for our loss. 1425 01:17:26,732 --> 01:17:29,838 For me, I don't want to just constantly living my life. 1426 01:17:29,862 --> 01:17:33,638 "Okay. In October of 2017, this happened. 1427 01:17:33,662 --> 01:17:35,978 Let's rehash it again and again and again and again." 1428 01:17:36,002 --> 01:17:38,402 That's not me. 1429 01:17:41,802 --> 01:17:43,478 You don't live with your head in the sand 1430 01:17:43,502 --> 01:17:45,808 and act like it never happened, 1431 01:17:45,832 --> 01:17:49,578 but move forward, do positive things, 1432 01:17:49,602 --> 01:17:51,378 continue to grow and learn 1433 01:17:51,402 --> 01:17:54,632 and impact other people in their lives. 1434 01:18:01,462 --> 01:18:04,738 Well, yeah, it's already... It's already named, 1435 01:18:04,762 --> 01:18:06,578 but I think you can change their names 1436 01:18:06,602 --> 01:18:07,579 - up to, like, a year. - Is it Opie? 1437 01:18:07,603 --> 01:18:09,278 - Yeah. - What's their name? 1438 01:18:09,302 --> 01:18:10,438 Opie. 1439 01:18:10,462 --> 01:18:11,978 Oh, that's perfect. 1440 01:18:12,002 --> 01:18:13,308 I get a new grand-dog. 1441 01:18:13,332 --> 01:18:14,632 I know. 1442 01:18:16,932 --> 01:18:19,538 It's a routine now of life without Bryan, 1443 01:18:19,562 --> 01:18:23,908 adjusting but remembering and thanking our Lord 1444 01:18:23,932 --> 01:18:27,002 for what we had with him for all those years. 1445 01:18:43,032 --> 01:18:44,802 We all family now. 1446 01:18:47,762 --> 01:18:48,908 Their pain is my pain, 1447 01:18:48,932 --> 01:18:50,838 and I know my pain is their pain. 1448 01:18:50,862 --> 01:18:52,608 We all going through the same thing. 1449 01:18:52,632 --> 01:18:54,302 We just want to know the truth. 1450 01:19:00,162 --> 01:19:02,438 The president of the United States of America, 1451 01:19:02,462 --> 01:19:05,978 authorized by Act of Congress 9 July 1918, 1452 01:19:06,002 --> 01:19:09,678 has awarded the Silver Star to Sergeant La David T. Johnson. 1453 01:19:09,702 --> 01:19:10,938 Sergeant Johnson, 1454 01:19:10,962 --> 01:19:13,408 with total disregard for his personal safety or life, 1455 01:19:13,432 --> 01:19:15,978 maneuvered multiple times across open terrain 1456 01:19:16,002 --> 01:19:17,838 through intense and accurate fire 1457 01:19:17,862 --> 01:19:20,978 from an overwhelming hostile force to protect his team. 1458 01:19:21,002 --> 01:19:23,078 I want to ask you about the ceremony. 1459 01:19:23,102 --> 01:19:25,578 At one point, you kind of like turned away, 1460 01:19:25,602 --> 01:19:27,208 like, your back to the audience. 1461 01:19:27,232 --> 01:19:29,762 Do you remember that moment, how you were feeling? 1462 01:19:31,132 --> 01:19:33,938 I was angry. 1463 01:19:33,962 --> 01:19:35,338 Angry. 1464 01:19:35,362 --> 01:19:37,962 I wanted my husband to be here with me. 1465 01:19:40,362 --> 01:19:44,162 No... A war medal or anything could bring him back. 1466 01:19:46,702 --> 01:19:49,802 I'm angry and I'm still angry to this day. 1467 01:19:55,262 --> 01:19:57,262 Come on. You ready? 1468 01:20:15,932 --> 01:20:17,808 You love Mommy? 1469 01:20:17,832 --> 01:20:18,932 Blow. 1470 01:20:23,162 --> 01:20:24,732 Ooh, pretty girl. 1471 01:20:27,302 --> 01:20:30,678 Yeah, I don't got anything to make him sit up. 1472 01:20:30,702 --> 01:20:32,908 Daddy can sit on Shay Shay lap. 1473 01:20:32,932 --> 01:20:35,478 - I can't. - I got to hold it. 1474 01:20:35,502 --> 01:20:37,538 But I'll lay it like that. 1475 01:20:37,562 --> 01:20:40,632 They still ask questions every day. 1476 01:20:43,332 --> 01:20:47,438 "Mommy, when Daddy coming home? When Daddy coming home?" 1477 01:20:47,462 --> 01:20:49,438 And I have to tell them, "Daddy not coming home. 1478 01:20:49,462 --> 01:20:53,008 You know, Daddy in Heaven now, you know. 1479 01:20:53,032 --> 01:20:56,202 So, you know, you could see Daddy in your dreams." 1480 01:21:03,362 --> 01:21:04,878 And when I'm dead and gone, 1481 01:21:04,902 --> 01:21:07,602 I'm gonna reunite with my husband. 1482 01:21:09,462 --> 01:21:11,062 He's gonna be waiting for me. 1483 01:21:22,702 --> 01:21:24,278 You wanna go get the doggie? 1484 01:21:24,302 --> 01:21:26,278 Huh? Abigail. 1485 01:21:26,302 --> 01:21:28,708 Hey. Abigail. 1486 01:21:28,732 --> 01:21:29,838 You want to go get the doggie? 1487 01:21:29,862 --> 01:21:31,708 A lot of changes on the personal front. 1488 01:21:31,732 --> 01:21:32,878 I've been married now... 1489 01:21:32,902 --> 01:21:35,978 September 22nd, it was a year. 1490 01:21:36,002 --> 01:21:39,932 I have a 9-month-old daughter, Abigail. 1491 01:21:42,932 --> 01:21:45,838 Far as my brother and his life, 1492 01:21:45,862 --> 01:21:48,238 his legacy and his death, 1493 01:21:48,262 --> 01:21:51,278 it's been a long, arduous process 1494 01:21:51,302 --> 01:21:53,078 over the last two years. 1495 01:21:53,102 --> 01:21:56,708 Um, the most recent development, you know, 1496 01:21:56,732 --> 01:21:59,638 was obviously his award. 1497 01:21:59,662 --> 01:22:02,602 He was awarded the Silver Star for Valor in Combat. 1498 01:22:10,362 --> 01:22:11,608 Staff Sergeant Wright, 1499 01:22:11,632 --> 01:22:14,378 with total disregard for his personal safety or life, 1500 01:22:14,402 --> 01:22:16,738 maneuvered multiple times across open terrain 1501 01:22:16,762 --> 01:22:18,478 through intense and accurate fire 1502 01:22:18,502 --> 01:22:20,378 from an overwhelming hostile force 1503 01:22:20,402 --> 01:22:23,508 to protect and recover two of his fallen comrades. 1504 01:22:23,532 --> 01:22:24,678 His courage... 1505 01:22:24,702 --> 01:22:25,878 I can't change the past. 1506 01:22:25,902 --> 01:22:28,978 I can't bring Dustin back. 1507 01:22:29,002 --> 01:22:31,978 But I can have a voice. 1508 01:22:32,002 --> 01:22:35,102 And I can be a thorn in your side... 1509 01:22:38,762 --> 01:22:41,208 ...to get my point across. 1510 01:22:41,232 --> 01:22:42,808 And that point is 1511 01:22:42,832 --> 01:22:46,378 if we're gonna have a strong country, 1512 01:22:46,402 --> 01:22:50,678 we have to have a strong military. 1513 01:22:50,702 --> 01:22:54,838 And that means when you make a mistake, 1514 01:22:54,862 --> 01:22:57,438 you are accountable. 1515 01:22:57,462 --> 01:23:00,438 And you must hold yourself accountable, 1516 01:23:00,462 --> 01:23:03,208 because that is what my son did. 1517 01:23:03,232 --> 01:23:05,938 He held himself accountable 1518 01:23:05,962 --> 01:23:09,338 for his actions that day. 1519 01:23:09,362 --> 01:23:10,808 He had a choice. 1520 01:23:10,832 --> 01:23:12,678 He could have kept running. 1521 01:23:12,702 --> 01:23:13,938 He didn't. 1522 01:23:13,962 --> 01:23:16,138 He stopped. 1523 01:23:16,162 --> 01:23:17,832 He stopped. 1524 01:23:20,432 --> 01:23:24,702 He turned around, and he faced his enemy. 1525 01:23:25,862 --> 01:23:27,862 Not everybody can say that. 1526 01:23:32,832 --> 01:23:35,078 I'm gonna share a few quotes. 1527 01:23:35,102 --> 01:23:36,938 They're not from a writer. 1528 01:23:36,962 --> 01:23:39,332 They're from a man named Dustin Wright. 1529 01:23:41,062 --> 01:23:43,838 "Life boils down to a series of choices. 1530 01:23:43,862 --> 01:23:46,838 Before long, the choices you make 1531 01:23:46,862 --> 01:23:50,308 and the ones you don't become you. 1532 01:23:50,332 --> 01:23:53,478 All choices lead you somewhere. 1533 01:23:53,502 --> 01:23:56,962 Bold choices take you where you're supposed to be." 1534 01:23:59,732 --> 01:24:01,108 He may have gave his last breath, 1535 01:24:01,132 --> 01:24:03,338 but that's not where his life ended. 1536 01:24:03,362 --> 01:24:05,878 And that's not where our lives ended. 1537 01:24:05,902 --> 01:24:08,732 That's where we were challenged to truly live again. 1538 01:24:11,262 --> 01:24:14,678 The sacrifices by men like La David Johnson, 1539 01:24:14,702 --> 01:24:17,878 Jeremiah Johnson, Bryan Black, and Dustin Wright 1540 01:24:17,902 --> 01:24:21,962 require a response from us as Americans. 1541 01:24:23,562 --> 01:24:25,238 Have you rejoined the Army? 1542 01:24:25,262 --> 01:24:27,338 - I have. - Have you rejoined the Army 1543 01:24:27,362 --> 01:24:30,432 to avenge Dustin's death? 1544 01:24:31,562 --> 01:24:34,708 - I think... - it would be easy to say 1545 01:24:34,732 --> 01:24:38,008 and completely understandable if I said, 1546 01:24:38,032 --> 01:24:39,338 "I want to go get 'em," 1547 01:24:39,362 --> 01:24:40,978 but that's not why I rejoined. 1548 01:24:41,002 --> 01:24:43,578 I rejoined because I care about my country. 1549 01:24:43,602 --> 01:24:46,908 I care about the men and women that are still going to combat. 1550 01:24:46,932 --> 01:24:49,208 I care about American blood being spilled, 1551 01:24:49,232 --> 01:24:53,038 and if I can do something to help, I want to. 1552 01:24:53,062 --> 01:24:54,408 I should do something. 1553 01:24:54,432 --> 01:24:57,938 Your son Will re-enlisted recently. 1554 01:24:57,962 --> 01:25:01,378 Not with my blessings. 1555 01:25:01,402 --> 01:25:04,038 He did that on his own, and that's his prerogative. 1556 01:25:04,062 --> 01:25:06,778 He's a grown man. 1557 01:25:06,802 --> 01:25:09,238 And I don't know... 1558 01:25:09,262 --> 01:25:11,932 Honestly, I don't know his motivation. 1559 01:25:14,802 --> 01:25:17,108 But I was... 1560 01:25:17,132 --> 01:25:20,702 I was not happy when I found that out. 1561 01:25:38,232 --> 01:25:40,338 The Army let me down. 1562 01:25:40,362 --> 01:25:43,632 They let my son down, and then they lied about it. 1563 01:25:53,162 --> 01:25:57,138 It was like the guys that actually made the decision 1564 01:25:57,162 --> 01:26:00,502 for them to do that mission ran from their decision. 1565 01:26:03,302 --> 01:26:05,508 And did everything they could 1566 01:26:05,532 --> 01:26:08,678 to force the blame down the ladder 1567 01:26:08,702 --> 01:26:11,438 as far as it could go. 1568 01:26:11,462 --> 01:26:13,178 Secretary Mattis wanted scalps. 1569 01:26:13,202 --> 01:26:14,308 I mean, we've heard that. 1570 01:26:14,332 --> 01:26:16,338 He was the Defense Secretary at the time, 1571 01:26:16,362 --> 01:26:17,708 and he wanted accountability. 1572 01:26:17,732 --> 01:26:19,378 He wanted to pin blame on people. 1573 01:26:19,402 --> 01:26:20,408 Correct. 1574 01:26:20,432 --> 01:26:21,508 Where's the accountability? 1575 01:26:21,532 --> 01:26:23,038 Where is the blame? 1576 01:26:23,062 --> 01:26:24,808 And it became very apparent 1577 01:26:24,832 --> 01:26:27,708 that there were certain levels of the chain of command 1578 01:26:27,732 --> 01:26:29,238 that were being targeted 1579 01:26:29,262 --> 01:26:31,608 and other parts that really weren't. 1580 01:26:31,632 --> 01:26:34,378 - Above your rank. - Above my rank. 1581 01:26:34,402 --> 01:26:35,878 And the people above your rank were... 1582 01:26:35,902 --> 01:26:37,308 Lieutenant Colonel Dave Painter, 1583 01:26:37,332 --> 01:26:39,578 Colonel Brad Moses... 1584 01:26:39,602 --> 01:26:43,738 My commander and my commander's commander. 1585 01:26:43,762 --> 01:26:46,138 People close to the investigation have told me 1586 01:26:46,162 --> 01:26:48,178 that the move to protect higher-ranking officers 1587 01:26:48,202 --> 01:26:49,808 began almost immediately. 1588 01:26:49,832 --> 01:26:51,678 Just a week after its launch, 1589 01:26:51,702 --> 01:26:54,908 General Waldhauser replaced the lead investigator 1590 01:26:54,932 --> 01:26:59,508 with his own Chief of Staff, Major General Roger Cloutier. 1591 01:26:59,532 --> 01:27:02,678 In October of 2017, General Waldhauser appointed me 1592 01:27:02,702 --> 01:27:05,338 to conduct an investigation into the enemy attack 1593 01:27:05,362 --> 01:27:09,278 on U. S. And Nigerien forces near Tongo Tongo in Niger. 1594 01:27:09,302 --> 01:27:12,508 My first responsibility was to the families of the fallen. 1595 01:27:12,532 --> 01:27:15,208 This is wrong. This is wrong. 1596 01:27:15,232 --> 01:27:18,678 Using your chief of staff, as much as I love the man, 1597 01:27:18,702 --> 01:27:22,008 to do the investigation for AFRICOM. 1598 01:27:22,032 --> 01:27:24,408 The last thing we want is AFRICOM 1599 01:27:24,432 --> 01:27:29,008 controlling an investigation of themselves. 1600 01:27:29,032 --> 01:27:32,838 The idea that the Secretary of Defense let AFRICOM 1601 01:27:32,862 --> 01:27:37,108 investigate themselves here and that the combatant commander 1602 01:27:37,132 --> 01:27:41,408 appointed his chief of staff to look at this, 1603 01:27:41,432 --> 01:27:45,078 I felt was just unconscionable. 1604 01:27:45,102 --> 01:27:46,808 And their unwillingness 1605 01:27:46,832 --> 01:27:50,338 to look at those commanders above the company level 1606 01:27:50,362 --> 01:27:53,878 is an egregious shortcoming 1607 01:27:53,902 --> 01:27:58,838 and dereliction of their responsibilities 1608 01:27:58,862 --> 01:28:02,708 to really assess what happened here. 1609 01:28:02,732 --> 01:28:05,538 The investigation was an attempt 1610 01:28:05,562 --> 01:28:10,338 to protect senior leaders and their careers. 1611 01:28:10,362 --> 01:28:13,208 And a deliberate attempt 1612 01:28:13,232 --> 01:28:17,878 to hold the... company commander 1613 01:28:17,902 --> 01:28:19,478 and the detachment commander 1614 01:28:19,502 --> 01:28:23,238 and the team members accountable. 1615 01:28:23,262 --> 01:28:25,508 I was ultimately held accountable. 1616 01:28:25,532 --> 01:28:29,408 I ultimately received this reprimand. 1617 01:28:29,432 --> 01:28:31,438 "Memorandum for Major Alan Van Saun 1618 01:28:31,462 --> 01:28:34,408 dated October 9, 2018. 1619 01:28:34,432 --> 01:28:36,838 You are hereby reprimanded for failing to ensure 1620 01:28:36,862 --> 01:28:41,408 that the members of Operational Detachment Alpha ODA 3212 1621 01:28:41,432 --> 01:28:43,278 were adequately trained 1622 01:28:43,302 --> 01:28:45,908 prior to conducting combined operations 1623 01:28:45,932 --> 01:28:48,978 with a Nigerien partner force." 1624 01:28:49,002 --> 01:28:51,308 And then Major General John Deedrick 1625 01:28:51,332 --> 01:28:52,978 came to visit me at the Pentagon 1626 01:28:53,002 --> 01:28:57,508 to give me the final results of my punishment. 1627 01:28:57,532 --> 01:29:00,778 And he notified me that, more or less, 1628 01:29:00,802 --> 01:29:04,408 my future in the Army was over. 1629 01:29:04,432 --> 01:29:08,538 So my words to him were, "Sir, just so we're straight here, 1630 01:29:08,562 --> 01:29:11,408 just so I understand we're on the same page, 1631 01:29:11,432 --> 01:29:14,308 you are essentially ending my career 1632 01:29:14,332 --> 01:29:17,308 over something that I was not part of, 1633 01:29:17,332 --> 01:29:19,902 nor did I have authority over." 1634 01:29:21,162 --> 01:29:26,878 "ODA 3212 was trained and certified and validated 1635 01:29:26,902 --> 01:29:29,932 by Lieutenant Colonel Painter and Colonel Moses." 1636 01:29:32,032 --> 01:29:34,878 Then he changed the topic, asked if I had any questions. 1637 01:29:34,902 --> 01:29:37,678 We shook hands, and I went on my way. 1638 01:29:37,702 --> 01:29:39,478 Colonel Moses and Colonel Painter 1639 01:29:39,502 --> 01:29:40,538 were not held accountable, 1640 01:29:40,562 --> 01:29:42,508 but they should have been held accountable. 1641 01:29:42,532 --> 01:29:44,178 And the reason they weren't held accountable 1642 01:29:44,202 --> 01:29:46,078 is because they're card-carrying, 1643 01:29:46,102 --> 01:29:49,478 you know, members of the club. 1644 01:29:49,502 --> 01:29:53,838 He was a scapegoat to protect higher officers 1645 01:29:53,862 --> 01:29:57,278 from being punished. 1646 01:29:57,302 --> 01:29:59,578 They gave him a reprimand. 1647 01:29:59,602 --> 01:30:01,908 For what? He wasn't even much there. 1648 01:30:01,932 --> 01:30:05,108 His daughter is born the same day my husband died, 1649 01:30:05,132 --> 01:30:09,608 and I'm pretty sure that eats him up every day. 1650 01:30:09,632 --> 01:30:10,938 It's all about the club. 1651 01:30:10,962 --> 01:30:13,508 It's all about protecting the establishment. 1652 01:30:13,532 --> 01:30:15,538 It's all about, you know, 1653 01:30:15,562 --> 01:30:18,008 circling the wagons around the senior leaders. 1654 01:30:18,032 --> 01:30:21,238 They spent months and months and months 1655 01:30:21,262 --> 01:30:24,578 trying to formulate a damn story 1656 01:30:24,602 --> 01:30:27,408 that they thought would protect their ass. 1657 01:30:27,432 --> 01:30:29,078 So that first mission was the one 1658 01:30:29,102 --> 01:30:31,608 that was not properly characterized. 1659 01:30:31,632 --> 01:30:34,778 It was characterized as a civil military reconnaissance 1660 01:30:34,802 --> 01:30:38,778 when it was actually focused on the ISIS-GS sub-commander. 1661 01:30:38,802 --> 01:30:41,338 So if you were sitting across from Roger Cloutier 1662 01:30:41,362 --> 01:30:44,038 right now instead of me... 1663 01:30:44,062 --> 01:30:47,008 I'd say, "Get your ass in the yard." 1664 01:30:47,032 --> 01:30:48,438 That's exactly what I'd say. 1665 01:30:48,462 --> 01:30:51,838 And I'd try to beat that son of a bitch to a pulp. 1666 01:30:51,862 --> 01:30:54,732 He would need medical assistance to leave my house. 1667 01:30:56,362 --> 01:30:58,208 If I had to hit him with a damn ball bat, 1668 01:30:58,232 --> 01:31:01,738 it wouldn't matter. 1669 01:31:01,762 --> 01:31:04,578 I'd... I'd put something on him he would remember 1670 01:31:04,602 --> 01:31:06,762 as long as I'm gonna remember my son. 1671 01:31:19,132 --> 01:31:22,308 The Pentagon's response, what we found, is to stand firm 1672 01:31:22,332 --> 01:31:25,208 by their investigation and its conclusions 1673 01:31:25,232 --> 01:31:26,638 by refusing to comment. 1674 01:31:26,662 --> 01:31:29,838 Military officials have also avoided answering questions 1675 01:31:29,862 --> 01:31:33,378 of many of the family members of the four fallen soldiers. 1676 01:31:33,402 --> 01:31:36,678 And so the official record remains unchanged, 1677 01:31:36,702 --> 01:31:38,478 despite the preponderance of the evidence 1678 01:31:38,502 --> 01:31:42,278 showing ODA 3212 did not go rogue 1679 01:31:42,302 --> 01:31:44,538 or contribute to their own downfall 1680 01:31:44,562 --> 01:31:46,708 as the Pentagon suggests. 1681 01:31:46,732 --> 01:31:50,478 There's been a lot of ink 1682 01:31:50,502 --> 01:31:53,338 spilled on this, uh, 1683 01:31:53,362 --> 01:31:56,738 on this incident in Niger. 1684 01:31:56,762 --> 01:31:59,532 And I think a lot of... 1685 01:32:02,262 --> 01:32:04,238 ...mischaracterization 1686 01:32:04,262 --> 01:32:06,378 of what actually occurred 1687 01:32:06,402 --> 01:32:08,478 and to the detriment, 1688 01:32:08,502 --> 01:32:12,178 not only of the men on the ground 1689 01:32:12,202 --> 01:32:14,438 and their legacy and their performance, 1690 01:32:14,462 --> 01:32:16,938 but also to the special operations community in general. 1691 01:32:16,962 --> 01:32:19,008 And it's important to me 1692 01:32:19,032 --> 01:32:22,938 that we attempt to set the record straight 1693 01:32:22,962 --> 01:32:25,838 and recognize 1694 01:32:25,862 --> 01:32:27,738 that these men served with honor. 1695 01:32:27,762 --> 01:32:30,408 They didn't mischaracterize their mission. 1696 01:32:30,432 --> 01:32:32,078 They fought valiantly 1697 01:32:32,102 --> 01:32:35,678 and made the ultimate sacrifice. 1698 01:32:35,702 --> 01:32:38,678 And it's important to tell that whole story 1699 01:32:38,702 --> 01:32:41,802 so that America knows the truth. 1700 01:34:23,132 --> 01:34:27,038 I turned 33 three days ago. 1701 01:34:27,062 --> 01:34:30,862 I am a bit of an old man compared to most. 1702 01:34:33,762 --> 01:34:36,802 But I know I had unfinished business. 1703 01:34:54,662 --> 01:34:58,108 The events of my brother solidified that position. 1704 01:34:58,132 --> 01:35:01,738 I admire him, I respect him and everything he's done 1705 01:35:01,762 --> 01:35:04,738 and everything he was able to do in the short time he had here. 1706 01:35:04,762 --> 01:35:06,408 And I wanted to do things with my life 1707 01:35:06,432 --> 01:35:07,638 that would make him proud 1708 01:35:07,662 --> 01:35:10,602 and to go into Special Forces is part of that. 1709 01:35:11,902 --> 01:35:13,808 For me, this is a bold choice. 1710 01:35:13,832 --> 01:35:16,562 For my wife and my family, this is a bold choice. 1711 01:35:22,562 --> 01:35:24,838 I think my dad... He is, uh... 1712 01:35:24,862 --> 01:35:26,708 Throughout my career, my brother's career, 1713 01:35:26,732 --> 01:35:28,278 he's kind of had the same stance. 1714 01:35:28,302 --> 01:35:31,978 He's proud of us but doesn't want it to be us. 1715 01:35:32,002 --> 01:35:34,638 And I get that. 1716 01:35:34,662 --> 01:35:39,008 To willingly watch another son go down that path, 1717 01:35:39,032 --> 01:35:40,932 I can't imagine how hard it would be. 1718 01:35:42,202 --> 01:35:43,238 Ready? 1719 01:35:43,262 --> 01:35:46,478 God is great, God is good. 1720 01:35:46,502 --> 01:35:48,932 Let us thank him for our food. 1721 01:35:53,632 --> 01:35:55,838 Amen. 1722 01:35:55,862 --> 01:35:58,638 Yay, Abigail. 1723 01:35:58,662 --> 01:36:02,108 You know, I am painfully aware 1724 01:36:02,132 --> 01:36:04,338 of what can happen on the worst day. 1725 01:36:04,362 --> 01:36:05,378 It's terrifying. 1726 01:36:05,402 --> 01:36:06,938 I mean, I... 1727 01:36:06,962 --> 01:36:09,078 I know what I stand to lose. 1728 01:36:09,102 --> 01:36:11,632 And that's why I'm not taking it for granted. 1729 01:36:17,632 --> 01:36:19,808 But... 1730 01:36:19,832 --> 01:36:23,438 I wasn't called to live a cautious life. 1731 01:36:23,462 --> 01:36:26,708 And, you know, I believe 1732 01:36:26,732 --> 01:36:30,178 it was Andrew Jackson said. 1733 01:36:30,202 --> 01:36:33,578 "I was built for the storm and the calm doesn't suit me." 1734 01:36:33,602 --> 01:36:37,008 So this is... 1735 01:36:37,032 --> 01:36:38,438 where God has placed me. 1736 01:36:38,462 --> 01:36:39,938 This is what he's put on my heart. 1737 01:36:39,962 --> 01:36:42,178 This is where he called me, 1738 01:36:42,202 --> 01:36:44,132 and I'm gonna see it through. 135553

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