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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,834 --> 00:00:09,583 (orchestra playing patriotic, Romantic Russian-themed music) 2 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:06,375 (music fades) 3 00:01:10,709 --> 00:01:12,750 ♪ ♪ 4 00:01:14,375 --> 00:01:16,875 Newsman: The plot thickens this morning, 5 00:01:16,875 --> 00:01:19,166 with US officials telling ABC News 6 00:01:19,166 --> 00:01:21,709 that Russian President Putin was directly involved 7 00:01:21,709 --> 00:01:23,917 in the hacking of the Democratic National Committee. 8 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:27,917 Julian Assange: We have said repeatedly over the last two months 9 00:01:27,917 --> 00:01:31,208 that our source is not the Russian government. 10 00:01:31,208 --> 00:01:36,417 Hillary Clinton: Vladimir Putin himself directed the covert cyberattacks. 11 00:01:36,417 --> 00:01:38,750 -Bill O'Reilly: Do you respect Putin? -Trump: I do respect him. 12 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:41,208 Bill O'Reilly: Do you? Why? Putin's a killer. 13 00:01:41,208 --> 00:01:44,875 Trump: There are a lot of killers. What, you think our country's so innocent? 14 00:01:45,917 --> 00:01:48,208 -Hello. -Stone: How are you? 15 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:50,375 Mr. President. Nice to see you again. 16 00:01:50,375 --> 00:01:51,417 I thought maybe you could sit over there? 17 00:01:51,417 --> 00:01:54,041 -Okay. -And I'll sit here, and we'll see. 18 00:01:54,041 --> 00:01:56,375 Play it by ear a little bit. 19 00:01:58,041 --> 00:02:00,041 And we'll improvise. 20 00:02:00,041 --> 00:02:02,250 No rules about this one. 21 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:03,375 Yes! 22 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:04,333 ♪ ♪ 23 00:02:07,709 --> 00:02:10,125 ♪ ♪ 24 00:02:10,125 --> 00:02:12,250 For over 40 years, the United States led the West 25 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:15,250 in the struggle against Communism 26 00:02:15,250 --> 00:02:18,917 and the threat it posed to our most precious values. 27 00:02:18,917 --> 00:02:21,792 This struggle shaped the lives of all Americans. 28 00:02:22,959 --> 00:02:25,000 It forced all nations to live 29 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,250 under the specter of nuclear destruction. 30 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:29,458 That confrontation is now over. 31 00:02:31,333 --> 00:02:33,041 (Putin speaking) 32 00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:52,000 Stone: I think a lot of Western people don't know much about you. 33 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,542 We'd like to know about your background, 34 00:02:53,542 --> 00:02:55,875 and where you came from. 35 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:59,500 I know that you were born in October 1952, 36 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:01,667 after the war, 37 00:03:01,667 --> 00:03:03,375 that your mother was a factory worker, 38 00:03:03,375 --> 00:03:07,000 and your father had been in the war. 39 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 And I know that you lived in a collective apartment 40 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,709 with other families as you grew up. 41 00:03:16,834 --> 00:03:18,000 Doing what exactly? 42 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,250 (Putin speaking) 43 00:03:25,041 --> 00:03:27,041 He was wounded in the war, though? 44 00:03:56,709 --> 00:04:01,375 I heard he had a bit of juvenile delinquency problems. 45 00:04:01,375 --> 00:04:02,542 He was a bit of a wild child 46 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:05,625 until he studied judo at the age of 12. 47 00:04:23,250 --> 00:04:25,750 You, uh, graduated from, uh, high school 48 00:04:25,750 --> 00:04:27,750 and I believe you went directly to law school. 49 00:04:27,750 --> 00:04:28,500 That's the Russian system? 50 00:04:40,208 --> 00:04:41,542 And met your first wife there? 51 00:04:44,375 --> 00:04:45,959 You last wife. I mean, your only wife. 52 00:04:53,625 --> 00:04:56,709 And then you joined the KGB right away in '75? 53 00:04:56,709 --> 00:05:00,542 1975. Yeah, you joined, in Leningrad. 54 00:05:12,458 --> 00:05:13,500 Oh, you were s-- You had no choice? 55 00:05:23,709 --> 00:05:26,792 Stone: And you had romanticized of course this-- 56 00:05:26,792 --> 00:05:30,041 There's the Soviet films about the KGB and intelligence. 57 00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:39,834 You went to Dresden in 1985 through 1990. 58 00:05:39,834 --> 00:05:43,959 But the first 10 years, uh, you were mostly in Leningrad. 59 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Stone: East Germany in 1985 to '90 was pretty dismal. 60 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,417 (Putin speaking) 61 00:06:01,709 --> 00:06:03,291 Stone: It was a strange time. 62 00:06:03,291 --> 00:06:06,625 Did you go back to Moscow? Did you experience perestroika? 63 00:06:28,125 --> 00:06:29,500 But these are Gorbachev's ideas, 64 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:31,375 so you were influenced by Gorbachev. 65 00:07:09,375 --> 00:07:12,500 Stone: The Soviet Union collapsed 66 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:16,250 and the Russian Federation was formed with Yeltsin. 67 00:07:18,375 --> 00:07:19,208 (Putin speaking) 68 00:07:19,208 --> 00:07:21,750 Stone: Yeah. 69 00:07:41,458 --> 00:07:42,291 Stone: Yeah. 70 00:07:42,291 --> 00:07:45,041 You moved to Moscow in 1996. 71 00:07:45,041 --> 00:07:49,291 And you became the head of the Federal Security Bureau for 13 months. 72 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:15,667 So, in that role, you must have seen what a mess this was. 73 00:08:15,667 --> 00:08:18,000 I gather, there was a nightmare of chaos. 74 00:09:19,834 --> 00:09:24,208 Newsman: In October 1993, Russia was on the brink of civil war-- 75 00:09:24,208 --> 00:09:25,875 with parliament deputies on one side 76 00:09:25,875 --> 00:09:28,792 and Boris Yeltsin and his supporters on the other. 77 00:09:28,792 --> 00:09:31,875 Yeltsin, who controlled tank divisions, 78 00:09:31,875 --> 00:09:34,792 would give the order to fire directly at the parliament building 79 00:09:34,792 --> 00:09:38,250 with shells pounding the offices of the Supreme Soviet chairman 80 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:40,959 and the vice president who sided with the deputies. 81 00:09:40,959 --> 00:09:46,208 Two days of street fighting left hundreds dead and injured. 82 00:09:53,333 --> 00:09:58,500 The United States continues to stand firm in its support of President Yeltsin 83 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:01,583 because he is Russia's democratically elected leader. 84 00:10:01,583 --> 00:10:04,583 And in 1999, you worked your way up to acting prime minister. 85 00:10:04,583 --> 00:10:07,667 And Yeltsin resigned in 2000. 86 00:10:07,667 --> 00:10:11,875 Just looking at, uh, press conferences and film of Mr. Yeltsin, 87 00:10:11,875 --> 00:10:17,250 it was clearly, uh, alcohol, uh, disease. 88 00:10:17,250 --> 00:10:19,709 His brain seemed to be-- 89 00:10:19,709 --> 00:10:23,250 The way he spoke, and the way he... he stared at the camera, 90 00:10:23,250 --> 00:10:25,458 the way he moved, he looked like he was catatonic. 91 00:10:26,458 --> 00:10:27,875 (Putin speaking) 92 00:11:02,458 --> 00:11:04,542 (wheezing) 93 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:44,625 So, here you are, 94 00:11:44,625 --> 00:11:45,500 many prime ministers come and go, 95 00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:47,458 and all of a sudden, 96 00:11:47,458 --> 00:11:49,041 wow, you're the acting prime minister. 97 00:11:49,041 --> 00:11:50,417 (chuckles) Now what? 98 00:12:22,208 --> 00:12:23,583 You refused? Why is that? 99 00:12:46,125 --> 00:12:47,083 Change his life, in what way? 100 00:12:47,083 --> 00:12:50,291 I mean, he's already been a bureaucrat 101 00:12:50,291 --> 00:12:52,208 in the government for a long time. 102 00:13:46,291 --> 00:13:47,333 Stone: Oh, really? 103 00:13:47,333 --> 00:13:48,875 What would you do? 104 00:14:23,333 --> 00:14:25,000 Yeah, but did you see his-- 105 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,417 Did he see his children during this period and his wife? 106 00:14:36,458 --> 00:14:39,166 And, uh, did you wake up at four in the morning? Did you ever sleep? 107 00:14:51,667 --> 00:14:52,750 Really? 108 00:14:55,208 --> 00:14:56,750 -No nightmares? -(speaks Russian) 109 00:14:56,750 --> 00:15:01,458 This is a discipline from the from military, from your KGB experience? 110 00:15:06,667 --> 00:15:12,375 Stone: Your theory of life, they say is summed up in the philosophy of judo? 111 00:15:12,375 --> 00:15:13,458 (Putin speaks) 112 00:15:14,583 --> 00:15:15,792 Stone: Not too complicated. 113 00:15:28,083 --> 00:15:30,375 You have a lot of discipline, sir. 114 00:15:49,166 --> 00:15:51,375 Stone: Okay. Well, then, we're in 2000 now. 115 00:15:51,375 --> 00:15:56,500 You've become president. The vote was 53 percent. 116 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:58,041 You're not expected to last. 117 00:15:58,041 --> 00:16:00,083 You're president of a country which is in a dark time. 118 00:16:00,083 --> 00:16:03,166 Chechenya War is going on, it looks very bad. 119 00:16:22,041 --> 00:16:25,083 One side says that it is fighting against terrorism, 120 00:16:25,083 --> 00:16:28,291 the other side says it is fighting for independence. 121 00:16:28,291 --> 00:16:32,125 And all the while, bodies line the street amid the rubble of war. 122 00:16:32,125 --> 00:16:33,625 This is not the Middle East. 123 00:16:33,625 --> 00:16:36,542 This is the break-way Russian Republic of Chechnya, 124 00:16:36,542 --> 00:16:39,291 little mentioned, but no less horrifying. 125 00:16:39,291 --> 00:16:41,583 (Putin speaking) 126 00:17:17,917 --> 00:17:21,417 You're credited with, uh, doing many fine things in your first term. 127 00:17:21,417 --> 00:17:23,333 You built up industries, 128 00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:28,709 electronics, engineering, petrochemical, agriculture. 129 00:17:28,709 --> 00:17:32,375 You raised the GDP, you raised the income. 130 00:17:32,375 --> 00:17:34,041 You reformed the army. 131 00:17:34,917 --> 00:17:37,375 (Stone speaking) 132 00:17:37,375 --> 00:17:39,625 The privatization was stopped. 133 00:17:39,625 --> 00:17:41,125 A real son of Russia. 134 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:44,709 (translator speaking) 135 00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:33,583 The oligarchs took-- underestimated him. 136 00:18:33,583 --> 00:18:37,375 And when he became president, they didn't think he would last. 137 00:19:42,375 --> 00:19:44,417 He cut the poverty rate by two-thirds. 138 00:19:45,333 --> 00:19:49,208 Respect for the old people, pensions. 139 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:57,208 In 2000, 700 rubles was the average income, 140 00:19:57,208 --> 00:20:00,041 in 2012, 29,000 rubles. 141 00:20:00,917 --> 00:20:02,959 Stone: Immensely popular in 2004, 142 00:20:02,959 --> 00:20:04,417 he's reelected with 70 percent of the vote. 143 00:20:07,041 --> 00:20:10,083 And 2008, because, uh, two terms are only allowed, 144 00:20:10,083 --> 00:20:12,792 you become the prime minister. 145 00:20:12,792 --> 00:20:14,709 Well, you worked hard when you were prime minister too. 146 00:20:43,959 --> 00:20:48,041 And in 2012, you run for president, 147 00:20:48,041 --> 00:20:50,041 and you win by 63 percent? 148 00:20:50,041 --> 00:20:53,583 Yeah, you're right. 149 00:20:53,583 --> 00:20:58,208 Three times president. Five assassination attempts, I'm told. 150 00:20:58,208 --> 00:21:01,333 Not as much as Castro, who I've interviewed. 151 00:21:01,333 --> 00:21:03,041 I think he must've had 50, 152 00:21:03,041 --> 00:21:05,375 but, uh, there's a legitimate five I've heard about. 153 00:21:28,083 --> 00:21:29,959 Stone: In other words, you trust your security, 154 00:21:29,959 --> 00:21:31,959 and they've done a great job. 155 00:21:31,959 --> 00:21:33,583 (Putin speaks) 156 00:21:33,583 --> 00:21:35,959 Stone: Because, always, the first mode of assassination, 157 00:21:35,959 --> 00:21:39,709 you try to get inside the security of the... of the president. 158 00:21:47,959 --> 00:21:50,291 (chuckles) 159 00:21:50,291 --> 00:21:51,709 What is your fate, sir? 160 00:21:51,709 --> 00:21:52,834 Have you-- Do you know? 161 00:21:57,125 --> 00:21:57,417 To die in bed, maybe. 162 00:22:12,291 --> 00:22:15,458 Stone: You've had a tough day. 163 00:22:15,458 --> 00:22:17,083 It's been a while. Nice to see you. 164 00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:20,834 (translating) 165 00:22:20,834 --> 00:22:23,041 I think, uh, last June was the, uh... 166 00:22:23,041 --> 00:22:25,166 was the last time I saw you. 167 00:22:25,166 --> 00:22:27,166 -(translator speaking) -(Putin speaks Russian) 168 00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:28,917 -You miss me? -(translates) 169 00:22:28,917 --> 00:22:30,834 (Stone laughs) 170 00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:36,333 Stone: I'm sure you cried about other things. 171 00:22:36,333 --> 00:22:38,667 Uh, excuse me, I just feel asleep upstairs. 172 00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:41,041 Uh, I caught up on my jet lag. 173 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,458 How was your day? 174 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:09,417 Holy cow! Well, you didn't have a cabinet meeting then, did you? 175 00:23:10,333 --> 00:23:12,041 There was-- I'm told there was 176 00:23:12,041 --> 00:23:13,834 a national security council kind of meeting? 177 00:23:27,709 --> 00:23:29,834 I see. A crisis or anything? 178 00:23:31,375 --> 00:23:34,000 Well, I'm just asking, 'cause I'm curious, 179 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,041 'cause we're normally scheduled at 3:00 p.m., 180 00:23:36,041 --> 00:23:39,500 and it's six hours and forty minutes later. 181 00:23:45,667 --> 00:23:47,083 No, but I'm saying there's always-- 182 00:23:47,083 --> 00:23:47,959 there are crises that come up? 183 00:23:47,959 --> 00:23:50,041 There are things that aren't scheduled? 184 00:24:12,125 --> 00:24:14,333 Uh, that goes to my bigger question, 185 00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:16,625 'cause my producer who's here, Fernando, 186 00:24:16,625 --> 00:24:18,208 we were talking about you earlier, 187 00:24:18,208 --> 00:24:20,750 and he said, you are an excellent CEO, 188 00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:23,291 uh, Chief Executive Officer of a company-- 189 00:24:23,291 --> 00:24:24,625 Russia is your company. 190 00:24:24,625 --> 00:24:28,166 You kick the tires, you deal with these problems, 191 00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:30,291 and you try to solve them on the spot. 192 00:24:32,959 --> 00:24:36,208 Let's say the problem is this, and you go into the detail here, 193 00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:39,625 and the detail sometimes gets smaller, and you do a micro-detail, 194 00:24:39,625 --> 00:24:43,458 and the micro-detail has another micro-detail, and before you know it, 195 00:24:43,458 --> 00:24:46,500 you've lost the forest for the trees, as they say. 196 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,125 That can be very irritating. You could probably go to bed at night, 197 00:24:49,125 --> 00:24:52,333 not having solved some of these things, and it really drives you nuts. 198 00:25:15,667 --> 00:25:18,000 He says he needs to complete something? 199 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:34,000 Which bring us to the-- a large problem, 200 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,792 which is he's been doing this as a president, prime minister, 201 00:25:37,792 --> 00:25:39,709 and now president again, for 15 years. 202 00:25:39,709 --> 00:25:43,625 I'm sure he knows the story of Ronald Reagan, 203 00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:47,000 one of the most admired presidents-- by conservatives-- in my country. 204 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,125 He was famous for sticking to his schedule, 205 00:25:50,125 --> 00:25:52,625 which required him, on most nights, to come home, 206 00:25:52,625 --> 00:25:55,875 in the White House by six o'clock, 207 00:25:55,875 --> 00:26:00,208 and have an early supper and watch TV with his wife. 208 00:26:07,792 --> 00:26:11,291 That is my point, is that he was a smiley man. 209 00:26:11,291 --> 00:26:14,208 He was a great greeter and meeter. 210 00:26:14,208 --> 00:26:17,417 He was very happy eating jelly beans 211 00:26:17,417 --> 00:26:18,792 and telling a good joke. 212 00:26:18,792 --> 00:26:22,375 Though Reagan was a big believer in delegating authority, 213 00:26:22,375 --> 00:26:26,667 to everyone around him. 214 00:26:26,667 --> 00:26:29,709 I'm just trying to make that example because... 215 00:26:29,709 --> 00:26:30,875 it's another way of living. 216 00:26:38,458 --> 00:26:40,208 Well, it seems to me, you're doing it the hard way. 217 00:27:03,083 --> 00:27:04,583 Well, Reagan would disagree. 218 00:27:04,583 --> 00:27:06,917 He would say the country America was broke, 219 00:27:06,917 --> 00:27:08,625 and that it needed to be fixed, 220 00:27:08,625 --> 00:27:10,667 and it was morning in America again, 221 00:27:10,667 --> 00:27:14,000 and it was his job to bring in positive energy to America. 222 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,792 And he did a pretty good job of making that feeling. 223 00:27:16,792 --> 00:27:18,834 It's a feeling. It's an illusion. 224 00:27:24,583 --> 00:27:27,000 (laughter) 225 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,625 Well, uh, actually, some people would argue 226 00:27:28,625 --> 00:27:31,542 that Reagan made America more broke 227 00:27:31,542 --> 00:27:32,834 because the debt grew enormously. 228 00:27:36,417 --> 00:27:38,417 I forgot. 229 00:27:38,417 --> 00:27:40,333 Russia's one, right? 230 00:27:45,959 --> 00:27:47,250 Eighteen trillion, US? 231 00:27:47,250 --> 00:27:48,000 (Putin speaks) 232 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,041 And about one trillion, Russia. 233 00:28:24,834 --> 00:28:29,417 The food prices went up 20 percent in 2015, 234 00:28:29,417 --> 00:28:32,917 and, uh, inflation was running at 13 percent. 235 00:28:35,625 --> 00:28:39,208 -Translator: 12.9 percent to be more precise. -Okay. Okay. 236 00:28:39,208 --> 00:28:41,291 What is the Russian Central Bank about? 237 00:28:41,291 --> 00:28:42,458 What is that doing? 238 00:28:56,375 --> 00:28:57,709 I thought you had nothing outstanding. 239 00:28:57,709 --> 00:28:59,709 You had no debts to the IMF, I'm told. 240 00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:48,125 Aah, you know, you still talk as if the IMF is a partner of Russia's. 241 00:29:48,125 --> 00:29:50,458 You act as if Wall Street wants Russia to succeed, 242 00:29:50,458 --> 00:29:52,375 and I question that. 243 00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:54,875 And I would ask you, 244 00:29:54,875 --> 00:29:59,291 is Wall Street actively working to destroy the Russian economy, 245 00:29:59,291 --> 00:30:01,208 in the interest of the United States? 246 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:21,000 ♪ ♪ 247 00:30:31,041 --> 00:30:32,417 (Putin speaks) 248 00:30:34,291 --> 00:30:35,458 Translator: That is the throne of the tzar 249 00:30:35,458 --> 00:30:37,291 -and the throne for the tzarina... -Stone: Yeah. 250 00:30:37,291 --> 00:30:40,542 -...and also for the dowager empress. -Stone: Yeah. 251 00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:44,500 You know, they say that you want to be tzar. 252 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:47,166 This is, uh, you know, that you're the new tzar. 253 00:30:47,166 --> 00:30:48,417 They put magazine covers out there-- 254 00:30:48,417 --> 00:30:51,125 You laugh, right? 255 00:30:55,333 --> 00:30:56,000 -Stone: Yeah. -(Putin laughs) 256 00:31:01,208 --> 00:31:04,917 But you allowed, uh, Charlie Rose to make a point 257 00:31:04,917 --> 00:31:07,750 when he said, you have all the power, 258 00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:09,667 you can do what you want. 259 00:31:09,667 --> 00:31:11,500 He made that very clear, and then-- 260 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,500 Because that's the way many Americans think, 261 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:16,000 that there's no system here. 262 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,083 And, uh, you didn't correct him. 263 00:31:18,083 --> 00:31:19,417 You, you-- 264 00:31:19,417 --> 00:31:20,375 Excuse, excuse me. 265 00:31:28,458 --> 00:31:30,208 Well, then you should shoot the interpreter too-- 266 00:31:30,208 --> 00:31:32,208 That's why we say that. 267 00:31:32,208 --> 00:31:34,709 Was it you? Yeah... 268 00:31:34,709 --> 00:31:37,875 I don't think he understood the question that Rose was leading him to. 269 00:31:37,875 --> 00:31:41,875 I mean, in other words, in English, it sounded like he wants the tzar, 270 00:31:41,875 --> 00:31:43,959 and he took it for granted that he was tzar. 271 00:31:43,959 --> 00:31:47,458 Some have called you a tzar. 272 00:31:47,458 --> 00:31:49,500 (speaking Russian) 273 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,875 Translator: So what? You know, people call me different names. 274 00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:55,500 Well, does the name fit? 275 00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:05,250 Do you ever lose it? (chuckles) 276 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:08,250 He says, you're so irrational 277 00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:09,291 every time you're asked a question, 278 00:32:09,291 --> 00:32:13,709 do you ever like have a day, like a bad day? And... 279 00:32:13,709 --> 00:32:16,000 (translator speaking) 280 00:32:18,917 --> 00:32:20,709 (sighs) 281 00:32:20,709 --> 00:32:22,000 Is that right? 282 00:32:24,083 --> 00:32:25,458 (translating) 283 00:32:25,458 --> 00:32:28,083 (laughs) 284 00:32:28,083 --> 00:32:28,875 There you go. Now you're going to insult 285 00:32:28,875 --> 00:32:32,208 50 percent of the American public. 286 00:32:32,208 --> 00:32:34,041 The way they're gonna take it. 287 00:32:39,083 --> 00:32:39,166 I know. 288 00:32:41,792 --> 00:32:45,083 So a woman to you is a-- tends to be more emotional? 289 00:32:45,083 --> 00:32:49,166 You don't want to have your emotions ever cut in and control your reasoning? 290 00:32:52,542 --> 00:32:54,875 (translating) 291 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000 ♪ ♪ 292 00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,792 Newsman: Question to, uh, President Bush. 293 00:33:17,792 --> 00:33:19,625 Is this a man that Americans can trust? 294 00:33:19,625 --> 00:33:20,834 GW Bush: Uh, I'll answer the question. 295 00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:22,333 I looked the man in the eye. 296 00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:26,125 I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. 297 00:33:27,709 --> 00:33:30,041 Now, we had a very good dialogue. 298 00:33:30,041 --> 00:33:33,291 I was able to, uh... get a sense of his soul. 299 00:33:35,667 --> 00:33:37,625 Stone: What did you sense when he was saying that? 300 00:33:46,709 --> 00:33:49,041 And on 9/11, you were one of the-- 301 00:33:49,041 --> 00:33:50,000 you were one of the first to call him 302 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,166 and offer him condolences and cooperation. 303 00:34:13,667 --> 00:34:16,750 When President Bush, invaded Afghanistan, uh, 304 00:34:16,750 --> 00:34:20,083 President Putin cooperated with the, uh, invasion 305 00:34:20,083 --> 00:34:23,709 and set up bases in the Caucasus and Eurasia, 306 00:34:23,709 --> 00:34:27,333 in order for the Americans to supply line Afghanistan. 307 00:34:52,834 --> 00:34:55,166 And continued to do so until recently. 308 00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:16,709 Stone: Russia has a long history in Afghanistan. 309 00:35:16,709 --> 00:35:20,375 So how come you guys did not figure out where Bin Laden was, 310 00:35:20,375 --> 00:35:23,834 and what was really happening with Bin Laden? 311 00:35:23,834 --> 00:35:26,125 Not just where he was, but... 312 00:35:26,125 --> 00:35:30,417 how weak the Al Qaeda base was at this point in Afghanistan. 313 00:36:01,625 --> 00:36:03,250 (translating) 314 00:36:14,166 --> 00:36:17,667 Bill Casey, director of the CIA under Ronald Reagan, 315 00:36:17,667 --> 00:36:19,625 made it a special effort 316 00:36:19,625 --> 00:36:22,166 to excite the Muslims 317 00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:25,709 in the Caucasus in Central Asia against the Soviet Union. 318 00:36:25,709 --> 00:36:29,917 His plan was bigger than just to defeat the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. 319 00:36:29,917 --> 00:36:34,291 His plan was basically regime change in the Soviet Union. 320 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,917 (translator speaking) 321 00:37:37,834 --> 00:37:39,500 ♪ ♪ 322 00:37:49,625 --> 00:37:51,917 ♪ ♪ 323 00:38:01,166 --> 00:38:04,083 Stone: In his mind, what was the most dangerous moment in the Chechen Wars? 324 00:38:04,083 --> 00:38:06,166 The first one, the second one? What years? 325 00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:44,041 Stone: The US support was covert. 326 00:38:44,041 --> 00:38:46,959 You say you have evidence that they were supporting the Chechens. 327 00:38:46,959 --> 00:38:47,417 (Putin speaks) 328 00:38:56,166 --> 00:39:00,834 Zbigniew Brzezinski: I think the administration has adopted a hands-off attitude, 329 00:39:00,834 --> 00:39:03,500 repeating like a mantra that this is an internal Russian affair, 330 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:08,000 which in effect legitimated the Russian action. 331 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,583 And then on top of it, senior administration spokesmen 332 00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,625 have engaged in a vilification of the Chechens. 333 00:40:26,834 --> 00:40:31,083 And, uh, all this while they're fighting the war against terror in Afghanistan? 334 00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:36,917 It seems like contradictory behavior, and strange behavior. 335 00:40:42,542 --> 00:40:45,542 I guess the letter is top secret, so, it's not available for viewing? 336 00:40:54,375 --> 00:40:55,834 (laughs) 337 00:40:57,583 --> 00:40:58,542 Bill Clinton: Today we welcome 338 00:40:58,542 --> 00:41:02,542 Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, 339 00:41:02,542 --> 00:41:04,959 finally erasing the boundary line the Cold War 340 00:41:04,959 --> 00:41:08,458 artificially imposed on the continent of Europe, 341 00:41:08,458 --> 00:41:12,000 strengthening an alliance that now clearly 342 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,458 is better preserved to keep the peace 343 00:41:14,458 --> 00:41:17,959 and preserve our security into the 21st century. 344 00:41:17,959 --> 00:41:21,458 Our goal is to help to build a Europe 345 00:41:21,458 --> 00:41:24,834 that is undivided, free, 346 00:41:24,834 --> 00:41:29,000 democratic, at peace, and secure. 347 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,959 GW Bush: Today we proudly welcome 348 00:41:31,959 --> 00:41:34,083 Bulgaria... 349 00:41:34,083 --> 00:41:35,792 (scattered cheers) 350 00:41:35,792 --> 00:41:37,208 ...Estonia... 351 00:41:37,208 --> 00:41:38,709 (cheering) 352 00:41:38,709 --> 00:41:39,875 ...Latvia... 353 00:41:39,875 --> 00:41:40,417 (cheering) 354 00:41:40,417 --> 00:41:42,125 ...Lithuania... 355 00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:44,458 (cheering) 356 00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:46,166 -...Romania... -(cheering) 357 00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:48,041 -...Slovakia... -(cheering) 358 00:41:48,041 --> 00:41:48,792 and Slovenia. 359 00:41:51,834 --> 00:41:52,875 We welcome them into the ranks 360 00:41:52,875 --> 00:41:55,959 of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. 361 00:41:55,959 --> 00:41:57,583 (applause) 362 00:42:01,125 --> 00:42:02,542 This is a special moment 363 00:42:02,542 --> 00:42:06,750 in the hopeful story of human liberty, 364 00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:10,291 as America formally declares its support for Albania 365 00:42:10,291 --> 00:42:11,834 and Croatia's entry into NATO. 366 00:42:14,375 --> 00:42:16,000 Stone: What I've heard from Mr. Gorbachev 367 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,458 as well as American officials, including James Baker, 368 00:42:19,458 --> 00:42:22,500 there was a, a deal with the Soviet Union 369 00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:23,709 not to expand NATO eastward. 370 00:42:56,375 --> 00:42:58,333 Stone: So this was a clear violation. 371 00:43:14,792 --> 00:43:15,875 (Putin speaking) 372 00:43:31,083 --> 00:43:34,583 And right now the Warsaw Treaty has faded into oblivion. 373 00:43:34,583 --> 00:43:36,625 There is no Soviet Union. 374 00:46:51,458 --> 00:46:53,709 Under the rules of NATO, I believe you'd have to share 375 00:46:53,709 --> 00:46:56,000 all your nuclear information with the United States. 376 00:47:14,959 --> 00:47:16,083 Yeah. Right. 377 00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:31,208 Right. 378 00:47:49,208 --> 00:47:52,333 The old Soviets were always very realistic about American policy. 379 00:47:52,333 --> 00:47:54,542 They always tried to understand the intentions of the Americans. 380 00:47:54,542 --> 00:47:59,583 I don't know if those think tanks still exist here. I would imagine they do, 381 00:47:59,583 --> 00:48:02,709 that Mr. Putin gets very accurate assessments about 382 00:48:02,709 --> 00:48:04,166 what United States' intentions are. 383 00:48:48,834 --> 00:48:51,417 Stone: Has this ever stopped? 384 00:48:51,417 --> 00:48:54,792 Has this attitude of the US ever stopped, 385 00:48:54,792 --> 00:48:56,250 that they had an enemy in Russia? 386 00:48:56,250 --> 00:49:00,917 Whether it was Communism or whether it was Putinism 387 00:49:00,917 --> 00:49:03,083 or whether it was any form, it was just the concept of an enemy. 388 00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,041 Stone: It raises the question of, 389 00:50:20,041 --> 00:50:23,041 you know, the broader question, of what is the US policy? 390 00:50:23,041 --> 00:50:23,750 What is its strategy in the world? 391 00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:25,834 In the whole world? 392 00:50:37,333 --> 00:50:42,125 Well, uh, I can state it for you, and you can argue with me. 393 00:50:42,125 --> 00:50:44,417 That's one thing, I could say I think 394 00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:46,917 or many learned people think that US strategy 395 00:50:46,917 --> 00:50:50,750 right now is to destroy the Russian economy, 396 00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:53,542 bring it back to 1990s' levels. 397 00:50:53,542 --> 00:50:56,709 And change the leadership of Russia. 398 00:50:56,709 --> 00:51:00,125 Make a new ally out of Russia for the United States, 399 00:51:00,125 --> 00:51:04,542 and basically, dominate Russia, as they once did. 400 00:51:04,542 --> 00:51:07,500 And perhaps did not-- they feel they did not go far enough 401 00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:10,333 and take your nuclear arsenal away from Russia. 402 00:51:51,250 --> 00:51:55,542 I understand that Russia will not give up. 403 00:51:55,542 --> 00:51:57,917 They will go to the end on this economy. Under Stalin, 404 00:51:57,917 --> 00:52:00,458 they gave their jewelry. 405 00:52:00,458 --> 00:52:02,917 They gave their personal possessions down to their last dollar 406 00:52:02,917 --> 00:52:05,375 to support the government against the Nazis. 407 00:53:28,834 --> 00:53:31,375 Stone: We have the US elections in this year, 408 00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:33,625 and none of these issues, 409 00:53:33,625 --> 00:53:36,750 uh, the environment, fixing our alliances 410 00:53:36,750 --> 00:53:38,625 has even been discussed one time. 411 00:53:38,625 --> 00:53:42,208 Everything in the election rhetoric has been 412 00:53:42,208 --> 00:53:45,750 get tough, be tougher, build up our military again, 413 00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:48,417 and in addition to that-- 414 00:53:48,417 --> 00:53:51,417 And that goes for both sides, that includes Hillary Clinton, 415 00:53:51,417 --> 00:53:56,834 who's most definitely become a neoconservative, a hawk, 416 00:53:56,834 --> 00:53:58,500 strong policies against Russia. 417 00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:01,458 She was certainly for the Syrian intervention, and so forth. 418 00:54:01,458 --> 00:54:05,500 And we have to send a very clear message to Putin 419 00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:07,875 that this kind of belligerence, 420 00:54:07,875 --> 00:54:10,166 this kind of testing of boundaries 421 00:54:10,166 --> 00:54:12,375 will have to be responded to. 422 00:54:12,375 --> 00:54:16,125 In addition to that, the Pentagon has announced recently, 423 00:54:16,125 --> 00:54:20,917 this new general has announced that Russia is the number one threat to the United States. 424 00:54:20,917 --> 00:54:24,417 He's been very forceful in those statements. 425 00:54:24,417 --> 00:54:28,291 If you want to talk about a nation that could pose 426 00:54:28,291 --> 00:54:29,166 an existential threat to the United States, 427 00:54:29,166 --> 00:54:30,667 I'd have to point to Russia. 428 00:54:30,667 --> 00:54:33,750 If you look at their behavior, it's nothing short of alarming. 429 00:55:19,041 --> 00:55:22,542 ♪ ♪ 430 00:55:31,125 --> 00:55:34,625 (speaking Russian) 431 00:55:40,709 --> 00:55:42,208 ♪ ♪ 432 00:55:48,375 --> 00:55:53,375 (triumphant, patriotic music playing) 433 00:55:55,083 --> 00:55:58,041 (Putin speaking) 434 00:56:26,875 --> 00:56:28,667 (Stone speaking) 435 00:56:32,375 --> 00:56:36,250 ♪ ♪ 436 00:56:42,583 --> 00:56:44,208 (Stone speaking) 437 00:56:54,917 --> 00:56:57,291 (Putin speaking) 438 00:57:14,417 --> 00:57:14,834 Do you ever see him? 439 00:57:14,834 --> 00:57:16,917 Yeah. 440 00:57:20,041 --> 00:57:21,667 (Stone speaking) 441 00:57:32,583 --> 00:57:34,583 (translator speaking) 442 00:57:35,834 --> 00:57:37,750 (Stone speaking) 443 00:57:41,417 --> 00:57:45,375 (triumphant, patriotic music continuing) 444 00:57:45,375 --> 00:57:47,875 ♪ ♪ 445 00:57:51,583 --> 00:57:53,875 (patriotic music ends) 446 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,583 ♪ ♪ 35016

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