Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:01,566 --> 00:00:04,917
[music playing]
2
00:00:07,529 --> 00:00:09,879
[door creaking]
3
00:00:15,493 --> 00:00:18,322
[heartbeat]
4
00:00:24,981 --> 00:00:27,288
[screaming]
5
00:00:29,420 --> 00:00:31,292
[screaming]
6
00:00:34,382 --> 00:00:36,253
[screaming]
7
00:00:43,869 --> 00:00:46,220
[screaming]
8
00:00:52,835 --> 00:00:55,185
[screaming]
9
00:00:56,839 --> 00:00:57,709
Oh my god!
10
00:01:01,409 --> 00:01:02,888
It's showtime!
11
00:01:03,019 --> 00:01:05,587
[applause]
12
00:01:07,545 --> 00:01:11,593
The Haunt is something that,
every year, it can be new,
13
00:01:11,723 --> 00:01:12,724
it can be different.
14
00:01:12,855 --> 00:01:16,076
It can be better than before.
15
00:01:16,206 --> 00:01:18,817
We built this huge
paper mache tree that
16
00:01:18,948 --> 00:01:20,689
was my Malice in Wonderland.
17
00:01:20,819 --> 00:01:22,386
That was the year
you were the queen.
18
00:01:22,517 --> 00:01:24,084
Yeah.
19
00:01:24,214 --> 00:01:28,000
I-- I was the Red Queen,
complete with double boots.
20
00:01:28,131 --> 00:01:30,394
I still use that
pictures my Facebook--
21
00:01:30,525 --> 00:01:31,003
Facebook.
22
00:01:31,134 --> 00:01:32,657
Yes.
23
00:01:32,788 --> 00:01:34,572
We've got people that have
come through The Haunt
24
00:01:34,703 --> 00:01:37,662
almost as long as
we've had it, and--
25
00:01:37,793 --> 00:01:42,014
We have people that say
they came here as a kid,
26
00:01:42,145 --> 00:01:43,799
and are now bringing
their own kids here.
27
00:01:43,929 --> 00:01:44,843
Yeah.
28
00:01:44,974 --> 00:01:45,801
We're almost through this.
29
00:01:45,931 --> 00:01:46,802
[screaming]
30
00:01:46,932 --> 00:01:48,238
[laughter]
31
00:01:50,066 --> 00:01:53,200
Haunted houses are
designed to make us laugh.
32
00:01:53,330 --> 00:01:54,418
[laughter]
33
00:01:54,549 --> 00:01:55,898
To make us scream.
34
00:01:56,028 --> 00:01:57,334
[screaming]
35
00:01:57,465 --> 00:01:59,510
And they make us
feel like kids again.
36
00:01:59,641 --> 00:02:02,687
A haunted attraction is one
of the most sophisticated art
37
00:02:02,818 --> 00:02:04,254
forms that you will
ever experience--
38
00:02:04,385 --> 00:02:06,691
from visual to sensory.
39
00:02:06,822 --> 00:02:08,519
Knowledge of psychology.
40
00:02:08,650 --> 00:02:11,696
What makes a great haunter
is they're obsessed about it.
41
00:02:11,827 --> 00:02:13,524
There is no school for this.
42
00:02:13,655 --> 00:02:16,310
You know, you can't go to
college and major in haunting.
43
00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,224
If you're born wrong--
44
00:02:17,354 --> 00:02:18,703
I don't know.
45
00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:26,494
It was 1974, I did
my first home haunt.
46
00:02:26,624 --> 00:02:29,801
We had a bucket of grapes,
and as they're squeezing it,
47
00:02:29,932 --> 00:02:32,021
we'd say, they're eyeballs.
48
00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:33,892
And they would scream.
49
00:02:34,023 --> 00:02:36,417
Nowadays you have to waterboard
them, you have to shove them,
50
00:02:36,547 --> 00:02:37,809
you have to get in their face.
51
00:02:37,940 --> 00:02:39,637
Never thought about
doing anything
52
00:02:39,768 --> 00:02:41,639
like that back in the old
days, when I started haunting.
53
00:02:41,770 --> 00:02:45,904
And now we've got this entire
dark, almost underground world
54
00:02:46,035 --> 00:02:50,648
of extreme haunts, where the
depths of society are explored,
55
00:02:50,779 --> 00:02:56,785
and your deepest nightmares are
literally put in front of you.
56
00:02:56,915 --> 00:02:59,483
And you're all mine.
57
00:02:59,614 --> 00:03:02,399
These are attractions that blur
the line between entertainment,
58
00:03:02,530 --> 00:03:04,836
real terror, and torture.
59
00:03:04,967 --> 00:03:07,099
I think the traditional
haunted house community just
60
00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:08,927
hates us.
61
00:03:09,058 --> 00:03:10,712
I think they're going to get
all of us shut down, or heavily
62
00:03:10,842 --> 00:03:12,192
regulated.
63
00:03:12,322 --> 00:03:13,497
I'm not really even
sure you can classify it
64
00:03:13,628 --> 00:03:14,977
as a haunted house.
65
00:03:15,107 --> 00:03:18,372
It's more an extreme
terror experience.
66
00:03:18,502 --> 00:03:21,331
[screaming]
67
00:03:22,463 --> 00:03:23,333
No!
68
00:03:23,464 --> 00:03:24,291
No!
69
00:03:24,421 --> 00:03:25,074
She's gone.
70
00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:25,770
She's gone.
71
00:03:25,901 --> 00:03:26,858
Let's go!
72
00:03:26,989 --> 00:03:29,818
[music playing]
73
00:04:07,812 --> 00:04:10,554
This is the infamous
baby barbecue.
74
00:04:10,685 --> 00:04:11,816
Kids really love this.
75
00:04:11,947 --> 00:04:14,123
This is our photo op.
76
00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:15,255
My name is Donald Julson.
77
00:04:15,385 --> 00:04:16,995
This is Nightmare on Loganberry.
78
00:04:17,126 --> 00:04:20,260
This is my mom's house.
79
00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:22,740
What was Donald like as a kid?
80
00:04:22,871 --> 00:04:24,351
Crazy.
81
00:04:24,481 --> 00:04:27,528
Donald was very imaginative.
82
00:04:27,658 --> 00:04:29,965
This has been walled
off to lock the kids in.
83
00:04:30,095 --> 00:04:32,097
At that point, the
door slides open.
84
00:04:32,228 --> 00:04:33,490
[screaming]
85
00:04:37,102 --> 00:04:39,844
Donald actually sculpted
a longer chainsaw part
86
00:04:39,975 --> 00:04:41,716
that had this point on the end.
87
00:04:41,846 --> 00:04:43,370
I'm like, that really looks
like a sword without a handle.
88
00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:45,197
And he goes, yeah, it's
for the chainsword.
89
00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:47,983
And I'm like-- brilliant
play on words there.
90
00:04:48,113 --> 00:04:49,680
I like the suspension
of disbelief.
91
00:04:49,811 --> 00:04:51,943
I like it that you're being
pulled out of reality,
92
00:04:52,074 --> 00:04:54,381
into something where monsters,
and demons, and things are
93
00:04:54,511 --> 00:04:56,818
real, and they are
actually scare you.
94
00:04:56,948 --> 00:04:57,688
[laughter]
95
00:04:59,255 --> 00:05:01,649
As a family, you know,
we all come together,
96
00:05:01,779 --> 00:05:03,825
you know, out of
our love and pride,
97
00:05:03,955 --> 00:05:06,306
and put together this
masterpiece called Nightmare
98
00:05:06,436 --> 00:05:08,090
on Loganberry.
99
00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:09,874
We've had at least
four people pee.
100
00:05:10,005 --> 00:05:12,660
We've gotten about six retainers
popping out of kids' mouth
101
00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:14,444
from their screams.
102
00:05:14,575 --> 00:05:19,623
One of my favorites was a
girl collapsed to the ground
103
00:05:19,754 --> 00:05:21,756
in the fetal position, and
screamed for her mother.
104
00:05:21,886 --> 00:05:23,714
Just repeatedly saying,
I want my mommy.
105
00:05:23,845 --> 00:05:25,237
I want my mommy.
106
00:05:25,368 --> 00:05:27,979
She was about 17, so
that was kind of funny.
107
00:05:28,110 --> 00:05:30,330
We scared this poor child
so badly that he took off
108
00:05:30,460 --> 00:05:32,070
running down the
street, left his sister,
109
00:05:32,201 --> 00:05:34,203
and his sister's
just crying, Billy!
110
00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:35,073
Billy!
111
00:05:35,204 --> 00:05:35,987
The kid took off.
112
00:05:36,118 --> 00:05:37,293
Nobody could catch him.
113
00:05:37,424 --> 00:05:38,860
Fortunately, we're
in a cul-de-sac.
114
00:05:38,990 --> 00:05:41,341
He just went in a big
loop, so we found him.
115
00:05:41,471 --> 00:05:43,778
[motor buzzng]
116
00:05:47,869 --> 00:05:50,741
[screaming]
117
00:05:53,396 --> 00:05:56,312
It's not that
I love Halloween.
118
00:05:56,443 --> 00:06:00,272
I love watching Donald
enjoy Halloween.
119
00:06:00,403 --> 00:06:01,665
So, this is my home.
120
00:06:01,796 --> 00:06:03,493
I have absolutely
no room, so I have
121
00:06:03,624 --> 00:06:05,539
to do my haunt at
my mother's house.
122
00:06:05,669 --> 00:06:10,457
I start in about August,
starting to build and craft
123
00:06:10,587 --> 00:06:12,459
anything new that is
going to be going up,
124
00:06:12,589 --> 00:06:15,636
or repairing everything
that's been damaged.
125
00:06:15,766 --> 00:06:18,116
I work for Red Digital Cinema.
126
00:06:18,247 --> 00:06:20,031
I am their security manager.
127
00:06:20,162 --> 00:06:22,512
I end up spending
most days after work,
128
00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:25,123
and all weekends here
up until Halloween,
129
00:06:25,254 --> 00:06:28,170
which I take
vacation to complete.
130
00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:32,827
And this takes a lot of
time away from my wife,
131
00:06:32,957 --> 00:06:36,483
who sees Halloween, essentially,
as a mistress that I
132
00:06:36,613 --> 00:06:37,875
cheat on her with.
133
00:06:38,006 --> 00:06:40,400
We got married
early September.
134
00:06:40,530 --> 00:06:41,836
It was great.
135
00:06:41,966 --> 00:06:43,185
And we're going to
France in December,
136
00:06:43,315 --> 00:06:45,405
if we can afford
to after Halloween.
137
00:06:45,535 --> 00:06:47,407
Last year we
actually made a rule
138
00:06:47,537 --> 00:06:49,800
that he can't talk about
Halloween until late August.
139
00:06:49,931 --> 00:06:51,454
Like, around his birthday.
140
00:06:51,585 --> 00:06:56,198
And how many hours is the
actual haunt open for?
141
00:06:56,328 --> 00:06:58,113
Uh-- four.
142
00:06:58,243 --> 00:07:00,420
Four hours.
143
00:07:00,550 --> 00:07:01,725
That's it.
144
00:07:01,856 --> 00:07:03,510
On one night.
145
00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,251
It's a lot of work
for, like, four hours.
146
00:07:06,382 --> 00:07:07,949
But I really respect
that you do that.
147
00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:09,167
I do, and I appreciate it.
148
00:07:09,298 --> 00:07:10,517
And I support that you're--
149
00:07:10,647 --> 00:07:12,388
you really love Halloween.
150
00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:17,001
Once we have our children, these
traditions will alter somewhat.
151
00:07:17,132 --> 00:07:18,829
Not that they'll be gone.
152
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,528
We'll always have Halloween,
we'll always go to scary mazes,
153
00:07:21,658 --> 00:07:23,791
and that's going
to be so much fun,
154
00:07:23,921 --> 00:07:25,532
but when we have children--
155
00:07:25,662 --> 00:07:28,404
and, yes, when we have children,
we're going to be trick
156
00:07:28,535 --> 00:07:30,711
or treating with our
children on Halloween.
157
00:07:30,841 --> 00:07:31,407
No.
158
00:07:31,538 --> 00:07:31,973
Yeah.
159
00:07:32,103 --> 00:07:32,756
No.
160
00:07:32,887 --> 00:07:33,365
Yes, we will.
161
00:07:33,496 --> 00:07:34,105
OK.
162
00:07:34,236 --> 00:07:35,759
Well, we'll see.
163
00:07:35,890 --> 00:07:36,543
We'll see where this goes,
because I am staunchly
164
00:07:36,673 --> 00:07:38,196
against this.
165
00:07:38,327 --> 00:07:39,371
I will give you Christmas,
I will be a father--
166
00:07:39,502 --> 00:07:40,677
You have to come home.
167
00:07:40,808 --> 00:07:42,113
But I'll be
damned if I'm going
168
00:07:42,244 --> 00:07:43,463
to give up Halloween for a kid.
169
00:07:43,593 --> 00:07:44,464
He has to come home.
170
00:07:44,594 --> 00:07:45,073
It's not going to happen.
171
00:07:45,203 --> 00:07:45,247
No.
172
00:07:50,861 --> 00:07:51,514
No.
173
00:07:51,645 --> 00:07:53,298
No.
174
00:07:53,429 --> 00:07:55,300
If he could have a career
doing this kind of thing,
175
00:07:55,431 --> 00:07:58,652
where it's Halloween
oriented, or movie oriented,
176
00:07:58,782 --> 00:08:00,436
or whatever it is, and
he's building props
177
00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:01,916
and physical effects,
I mean, that's
178
00:08:02,046 --> 00:08:03,483
the happiest he'd ever be.
179
00:08:03,613 --> 00:08:04,919
So long as it matches
the salary you make now.
180
00:08:18,933 --> 00:08:20,543
If you don't feel it in here--
181
00:08:20,674 --> 00:08:22,937
if you don't have
the passion for it,
182
00:08:23,067 --> 00:08:26,941
to want that scream, to just
go after people because you
183
00:08:27,071 --> 00:08:28,856
want to hear them screaming--
184
00:08:28,986 --> 00:08:30,510
[screaming]
185
00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,338
If you don't have that
feeling, what are you doing?
186
00:08:33,469 --> 00:08:34,775
You know, you can work in some--
187
00:08:34,905 --> 00:08:35,950
you can get another job.
188
00:08:39,823 --> 00:08:42,652
If the kids on the
schoolbus see this,
189
00:08:42,783 --> 00:08:44,436
they'll-- they'll
be like, oh my god.
190
00:08:44,567 --> 00:08:45,742
That's my bus driver.
191
00:08:45,873 --> 00:08:47,483
I work at the zoo.
192
00:08:47,614 --> 00:08:51,531
I'm an executive assistant,
so October is my time
193
00:08:51,661 --> 00:08:56,187
to go crazy, and everything I'd
like to say to the executives,
194
00:08:56,318 --> 00:08:59,190
I can just scream at the guests.
195
00:08:59,321 --> 00:09:01,323
I work in the
hospital as an ER tech.
196
00:09:01,453 --> 00:09:03,151
I've seen it all.
197
00:09:03,281 --> 00:09:04,718
I've seen, you know, gunshot
wounds, people get stabbed,
198
00:09:04,848 --> 00:09:06,415
all that stuff.
199
00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:08,069
And then I just kind of
come here and scare people.
200
00:09:08,199 --> 00:09:10,201
I take a vacation, I cash
out my vacation hours.
201
00:09:10,332 --> 00:09:11,159
This is my vacation.
202
00:09:15,946 --> 00:09:17,992
Because it's a two way thing.
203
00:09:18,122 --> 00:09:20,951
When one person-- when you're
working one person, and they're
204
00:09:21,082 --> 00:09:22,518
screaming, you're
having, for that
205
00:09:22,649 --> 00:09:25,390
split second, a little
relationship with them.
206
00:09:25,521 --> 00:09:27,175
You're their tormentor.
207
00:09:27,305 --> 00:09:28,872
[screaming]
208
00:09:30,526 --> 00:09:32,528
Is like a little connection
between the monster
209
00:09:32,659 --> 00:09:34,922
and the you.
210
00:09:35,052 --> 00:09:36,837
[screaming]
211
00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:41,450
Ever since my first time
scaring someone, it was a drug.
212
00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:43,234
I was just hooked.
213
00:09:43,365 --> 00:09:44,758
My mom didn't like it, because
she thought it was satanic.
214
00:09:44,888 --> 00:09:46,237
They don't get it.
215
00:09:46,368 --> 00:09:47,587
It's no one else's
thing in my family.
216
00:09:47,717 --> 00:09:50,720
This is my destiny,
to scare people.
217
00:09:50,851 --> 00:09:52,592
It's the best job in
the world because you
218
00:09:52,722 --> 00:09:54,681
get to scare the
crap out of people.
219
00:09:54,811 --> 00:09:56,726
We had an audience
member chained to a wall.
220
00:09:56,857 --> 00:09:58,598
Our demon, like,
busted through a wall.
221
00:09:58,728 --> 00:10:00,556
An audience member had
fainted, and then they
222
00:10:00,687 --> 00:10:01,862
peed on the floor.
223
00:10:01,992 --> 00:10:03,472
That was one of our highlights.
224
00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:06,127
Because you can have
a really bad day, like,
225
00:10:06,257 --> 00:10:08,259
in your personal life,
and then you come here, ,
226
00:10:08,390 --> 00:10:10,566
and you just let it
all out on guests.
227
00:10:10,697 --> 00:10:12,829
I like getting to chase
people around, and have
228
00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,483
that power over them.
229
00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:17,486
And watch them break
down, and terrorize them.
230
00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:19,096
When I was in
kindergarten, my mother
231
00:10:19,227 --> 00:10:20,837
dressed me up for
Halloween as a princess.
232
00:10:20,968 --> 00:10:23,405
And I knew something
was not right.
233
00:10:23,535 --> 00:10:25,537
I told my mother, I
want to be a skeleton.
234
00:10:25,668 --> 00:10:27,627
First grade came around,
and she was like--
235
00:10:27,757 --> 00:10:29,324
you can be a witch.
236
00:10:29,454 --> 00:10:30,934
She gave me a witch's
costume, and it was good,
237
00:10:31,065 --> 00:10:33,545
but I still wanted
to be a skeleton.
238
00:10:33,676 --> 00:10:34,634
Second grade.
239
00:10:34,764 --> 00:10:36,853
Yay, I got a skeleton costume.
240
00:10:36,984 --> 00:10:38,333
I was so happy.
241
00:10:38,463 --> 00:10:40,596
I ran around scaring
kids all day long.
242
00:10:40,727 --> 00:10:43,512
My mother thought it
was going to be a phase.
243
00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:45,819
Shar is absolutely
an amazing actress.
244
00:10:45,949 --> 00:10:50,084
She is so iconic in the haunt
industry, and the community.
245
00:10:50,214 --> 00:10:51,476
We're family.
246
00:10:51,607 --> 00:10:53,043
Family's important.
247
00:10:53,174 --> 00:10:54,915
So, how long have you
been married to Shar?
248
00:10:55,045 --> 00:10:56,438
25 years today.
249
00:10:56,568 --> 00:10:58,048
Have you ever been
to any of the haunts
250
00:10:58,179 --> 00:11:00,311
that Shar has been a monster in?
251
00:11:00,442 --> 00:11:02,139
No.
252
00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:05,665
I don't find any entertainment
value in being frightened.
253
00:11:05,795 --> 00:11:07,318
SHAR MAYER: Besides
my regular family,
254
00:11:07,449 --> 00:11:09,407
my haunt family is
really important.
255
00:11:09,538 --> 00:11:11,758
She is the only person,
and the only scare actor
256
00:11:11,888 --> 00:11:15,370
that has done the entire
gamut, ranging from boo
257
00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:18,242
scares to hayrides.
258
00:11:18,373 --> 00:11:22,203
She's been doing Smiley for over
14 years at Knott's Scary Farm.
259
00:11:22,333 --> 00:11:23,595
To interactive.
260
00:11:23,726 --> 00:11:25,815
Delusion, which
is a haunted play.
261
00:11:25,946 --> 00:11:28,775
I played a creepy old woman.
262
00:11:28,905 --> 00:11:29,863
Hello.
263
00:11:29,993 --> 00:11:31,429
I always play creepy old women.
264
00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:33,867
To extreme haunts,
like Blackout.
265
00:11:33,997 --> 00:11:36,086
She's really, really hardcore.
266
00:11:36,217 --> 00:11:37,697
I don't know how she does it.
267
00:11:37,827 --> 00:11:39,873
She just keeps going, and
it's absolutely amazing.
268
00:11:40,003 --> 00:11:42,310
I hope that one day
I can be like Shar.
269
00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,225
Oh, god!
270
00:11:44,355 --> 00:11:45,879
We don't mind
the sound effects,
271
00:11:46,009 --> 00:11:47,707
we don't mind people being
scared and screaming,
272
00:11:47,837 --> 00:11:50,710
but when you have the actors
shouting these-- you know,
273
00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,888
in people's faces, and they're
seeming to attack the peopl,
274
00:11:55,018 --> 00:11:56,933
that-- that was a
little disturbing,
275
00:11:57,064 --> 00:11:58,500
hearing that from our backyard.
276
00:11:58,630 --> 00:11:59,240
Get out.
277
00:11:59,370 --> 00:11:59,806
Get out now!
278
00:11:59,936 --> 00:12:00,589
Get out!
279
00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,416
Get out, quick!
280
00:12:01,546 --> 00:12:02,156
Hurry up!
281
00:12:02,286 --> 00:12:02,896
They're coming!
282
00:12:03,026 --> 00:12:03,679
Let me out!
283
00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:06,247
[motor buzzing]
284
00:12:07,335 --> 00:12:08,728
Over here!
285
00:12:08,858 --> 00:12:09,641
Oh my god!
286
00:12:14,646 --> 00:12:16,605
They look like regular people.
287
00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:19,826
They look like regular
people, but they're not.
288
00:12:19,956 --> 00:12:22,524
I would hear the scary
things about, you know,
289
00:12:22,654 --> 00:12:26,223
what they had going on
in the manor down there.
290
00:12:26,354 --> 00:12:30,227
Some really crazy stuff
going on in that house.
291
00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:33,274
And there were some crazy
people that lived there.
292
00:12:33,404 --> 00:12:36,756
My real job is I'm a legal
assistant in a law firm,
293
00:12:36,886 --> 00:12:38,279
in the litigation department.
294
00:12:38,409 --> 00:12:40,585
The only way that
it applies here
295
00:12:40,716 --> 00:12:42,979
is we've drafted the waiver.
296
00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:44,851
Obviously there was
something that goes on.
297
00:12:44,981 --> 00:12:46,809
Disclaimers are created
for a reason, which
298
00:12:46,940 --> 00:12:49,159
was also an indication
to me that there's
299
00:12:49,290 --> 00:12:50,813
risk involved there.
300
00:12:50,944 --> 00:12:54,774
And I am very risk adverse,
because of my work.
301
00:12:54,904 --> 00:12:56,079
And what's your job?
302
00:12:56,210 --> 00:12:57,733
I'm a risk manager.
303
00:12:57,864 --> 00:12:59,213
I don't know Russ that well.
304
00:12:59,343 --> 00:13:00,954
I don't know what
type of haunted houses
305
00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:03,478
he is trying to aspire to.
306
00:13:03,608 --> 00:13:05,915
It was-- it seemed like it
took a turn for the worse
307
00:13:06,046 --> 00:13:07,438
the last year.
308
00:13:07,569 --> 00:13:08,570
So I went through
it about 20 years ago.
309
00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:10,702
It was very passive.
310
00:13:10,833 --> 00:13:12,617
And so now it's a
little bit extreme.
311
00:13:12,748 --> 00:13:14,794
What was it like when you
went into it 20 years ago?
312
00:13:14,924 --> 00:13:16,752
Well, you went through
the side of his house,
313
00:13:16,883 --> 00:13:18,580
and arms reached out
at you from a window,
314
00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:20,538
and then he had, like,
scary stuff in the back.
315
00:13:20,669 --> 00:13:22,236
But it was pretty simple.
316
00:13:22,366 --> 00:13:25,195
And then-- it was a basic
haunted house, you know?
317
00:13:25,326 --> 00:13:26,762
And then since it
got more extreme,
318
00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:28,242
I've been too afraid
to go into it.
319
00:13:28,372 --> 00:13:30,026
Because I don't like
being scared like that.
320
00:13:30,157 --> 00:13:33,638
It was a much, much milder
version than what it is now.
321
00:13:33,769 --> 00:13:34,552
It was a lot of fun.
322
00:13:34,683 --> 00:13:35,945
That was-- that was fun.
323
00:13:36,076 --> 00:13:39,035
That was, like, a
mom and pop haunt.
324
00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:40,994
That was really fun.
325
00:13:41,124 --> 00:13:43,344
And then people
started wanting more.
326
00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:48,610
They wanted to be scared more,
and so it started evolving.
327
00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:54,964
And I actually don't know how
it got to where we are now.
328
00:13:55,095 --> 00:14:00,840
I don't know what
made that giant leap.
329
00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:03,581
Then Russ started coming
up with these crazy ideas,
330
00:14:03,712 --> 00:14:07,890
and I'm like, we cannot do that.
331
00:14:08,021 --> 00:14:09,326
Cannot do that.
332
00:14:09,457 --> 00:14:09,849
But we did it.
333
00:14:13,243 --> 00:14:14,897
And people want even more.
334
00:14:18,509 --> 00:14:20,555
When The Haunt first
started back in the mid
335
00:14:20,685 --> 00:14:22,339
'90s-- '95, '96--
336
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:25,473
it was open only for Halloween.
337
00:14:25,603 --> 00:14:29,085
And that took me, probably,
about a month to set up.
338
00:14:29,216 --> 00:14:33,611
Now, in 2008, The Haunt is
open for the entire month
339
00:14:33,742 --> 00:14:36,658
of October, and that means
about two to three months
340
00:14:36,788 --> 00:14:40,053
of preparation, of
building sets and props.
341
00:14:40,183 --> 00:14:41,750
This is gonna have walls.
342
00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,404
That's the inside
of our kitchen.
343
00:14:43,534 --> 00:14:46,102
That's Carol right there,
and you won't see her.
344
00:14:46,233 --> 00:14:47,974
There'll be a barrier here.
345
00:14:48,104 --> 00:14:49,497
It's called the
gusher for a reason.
346
00:14:49,627 --> 00:14:51,891
There's actually a
hose attached to him,
347
00:14:52,021 --> 00:14:55,111
so when he sprays water,
it sprays like a firehose.
348
00:14:55,242 --> 00:14:57,940
We handcuff them
inside this cage,
349
00:14:58,071 --> 00:14:59,855
then we slowly fill up the pool.
350
00:14:59,986 --> 00:15:02,205
If you ever want to have a
simulated drowning experience,
351
00:15:02,336 --> 00:15:04,120
this is where you
want to come to.
352
00:15:04,251 --> 00:15:05,948
Totally effing fun.
353
00:15:06,079 --> 00:15:07,341
[screaming]
354
00:15:07,471 --> 00:15:08,733
You guys are sick.
355
00:15:08,864 --> 00:15:10,387
Sick people.
356
00:15:10,518 --> 00:15:12,302
Scary and sick.
357
00:15:12,433 --> 00:15:14,609
And I don't know
what's wrong with you.
358
00:15:14,739 --> 00:15:16,654
We prescreen people.
359
00:15:16,785 --> 00:15:18,961
We have to make sure they're
physically and mentally OK,
360
00:15:19,092 --> 00:15:22,791
because it is, to say the
least, very, very challenging.
361
00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:24,706
[ringing]
362
00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:28,797
What three things really,
really, really, really
363
00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,146
freak you out?
364
00:15:30,277 --> 00:15:31,234
My number one is
probably spiders.
365
00:15:31,365 --> 00:15:32,409
Something in my mouth.
366
00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:33,019
Snakes.
367
00:15:33,149 --> 00:15:33,628
Rats.
368
00:15:33,758 --> 00:15:34,934
Clowns.
369
00:15:35,064 --> 00:15:36,718
We currently have,
as of last year,
370
00:15:36,848 --> 00:15:39,329
over 17,000 people on the
waiting list to go through.
371
00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:40,983
What would make you
want to put yourself
372
00:15:41,114 --> 00:15:45,553
through two to four
hours of nonstop terror?
373
00:15:45,683 --> 00:15:49,774
Because I want to prove
to myself I'm not a wimp.
374
00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:54,257
2008 changed things
for many people.
375
00:15:54,388 --> 00:15:56,303
I was dealing with
some significant issues
376
00:15:56,433 --> 00:16:00,350
about my profession, and
finding gainful employment.
377
00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:01,917
I was looking for
a different way
378
00:16:02,048 --> 00:16:04,528
to quantify the horror I
was feeling in my life.
379
00:16:04,659 --> 00:16:05,921
And I thought, you know what?
380
00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:08,315
This haunted house--
it's nothing.
381
00:16:08,445 --> 00:16:12,884
So I thought, you know,
I'm going to do it.
382
00:16:13,015 --> 00:16:15,061
Grace, our neighbor--
383
00:16:15,191 --> 00:16:18,760
she can see our house
from her backyard.
384
00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:23,069
She's watched for years,
and one year she came down.
385
00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:24,896
Just, the waiting.
386
00:16:25,027 --> 00:16:29,684
Just-- I could feel my
heart rate going faster.
387
00:16:29,814 --> 00:16:37,257
I could feel my hands shake,
and I started to panic.
388
00:16:37,387 --> 00:16:38,432
What am I doing here?
389
00:16:38,562 --> 00:16:39,911
This is crazy.
390
00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:40,782
This is crazy.
391
00:16:40,912 --> 00:16:42,175
I-- I can't do it.
392
00:16:42,305 --> 00:16:43,132
I will not do it.
393
00:16:43,263 --> 00:16:44,916
I'm leaving.
394
00:16:45,047 --> 00:16:47,615
I come in the house for a
second, and I go back out,
395
00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:49,486
and she's gone.
396
00:16:49,617 --> 00:16:52,272
So I jumped over the
fence, and I made a beeline
397
00:16:52,402 --> 00:16:53,447
to my house.
398
00:16:53,577 --> 00:16:56,276
I went driving,
looking for her,
399
00:16:56,406 --> 00:16:59,366
and I can see her
running down the street.
400
00:16:59,496 --> 00:17:00,845
I ran as hard as I could.
401
00:17:00,976 --> 00:17:02,195
I ran as hard as I could.
402
00:17:02,325 --> 00:17:04,371
She sees I'm getting
close, she dives
403
00:17:04,501 --> 00:17:07,026
into these bushes to hide.
404
00:17:07,156 --> 00:17:08,766
You just gotta
get in your house.
405
00:17:08,897 --> 00:17:10,855
If you can get into your
house, you're going to be OK.
406
00:17:10,986 --> 00:17:12,944
And I just get out of the
car, and I'm like, Grace.
407
00:17:13,075 --> 00:17:14,033
Grace.
408
00:17:14,163 --> 00:17:15,686
I know you're in the bushes.
409
00:17:15,817 --> 00:17:17,558
You're going to go
through the haunted house.
410
00:17:17,688 --> 00:17:22,128
I put her in the car, and
dragged her back here.
411
00:17:22,258 --> 00:17:24,043
Let me out!
412
00:17:24,173 --> 00:17:25,044
Russ!
413
00:17:25,174 --> 00:17:27,394
Russ, let me out!
414
00:17:27,524 --> 00:17:28,177
No!
415
00:17:28,308 --> 00:17:28,960
I'm not Grace.
416
00:17:29,091 --> 00:17:31,746
That's-- no!
417
00:17:31,876 --> 00:17:33,835
Please get me out of the chair.
418
00:17:33,965 --> 00:17:35,271
Please get me out of the chair.
419
00:17:35,402 --> 00:17:36,707
I want out of the chair.
420
00:17:41,103 --> 00:17:41,930
No, Russ.
421
00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:43,279
That's-- no.
422
00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:44,106
That's not happening.
423
00:17:47,153 --> 00:17:49,024
The coffin is the
scariest thing for her.
424
00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:52,027
And that's-- that's one way I
got her in, because I promised
425
00:17:52,158 --> 00:17:53,768
her-- like, I
promise you, Grace,
426
00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:55,291
I won't lock you in
the coffin again.
427
00:17:55,422 --> 00:17:56,553
I want out.
428
00:17:56,684 --> 00:17:57,728
I want out.
429
00:17:57,859 --> 00:17:59,295
This is bad karma.
430
00:17:59,426 --> 00:18:00,905
But They did I lock her in?
431
00:18:01,036 --> 00:18:02,603
Of course I locked her in.
432
00:18:02,733 --> 00:18:03,560
No!
433
00:18:03,691 --> 00:18:05,997
No!
434
00:18:06,128 --> 00:18:07,390
And then she lost her mind.
435
00:18:14,832 --> 00:18:16,573
Have you ever had to
pull the plug before?
436
00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:17,879
Yeah.
437
00:18:18,009 --> 00:18:18,662
There was this one
gal named Grace.
438
00:18:18,793 --> 00:18:19,228
She's famous.
439
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,664
Gracie.
440
00:18:20,795 --> 00:18:22,101
There was a room
there where there was--
441
00:18:22,231 --> 00:18:23,972
I don't want to call
it an atercation.
442
00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:26,148
She was going for the axe,
and she wanted to kill us all.
443
00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:28,672
OK, maybe it was
an altercation.
444
00:18:28,803 --> 00:18:30,848
I thought, we'll just get
the axe away from her,
445
00:18:30,979 --> 00:18:32,241
and it'll be OK.
446
00:18:32,372 --> 00:18:34,200
Get off of me!
447
00:18:34,330 --> 00:18:35,679
It didn't.
448
00:18:35,810 --> 00:18:36,767
I don't-- it didn't
work out that way.
449
00:18:36,898 --> 00:18:37,725
I'm gonna kill you!
450
00:18:37,855 --> 00:18:38,682
Give me the axe!
451
00:18:38,813 --> 00:18:39,596
No!
452
00:18:39,727 --> 00:18:40,684
I'll kill you first!
453
00:18:40,815 --> 00:18:42,121
So what do you think, Billy?
454
00:18:42,251 --> 00:18:43,078
Is this something,
seriously, that you
455
00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:43,861
feel comfortable doing?
456
00:18:43,992 --> 00:18:45,124
I don't know.
457
00:18:45,254 --> 00:18:46,342
I just, uh-- kind
of don't really
458
00:18:46,473 --> 00:18:47,648
know what I'm getting into yet.
459
00:18:47,778 --> 00:18:48,953
So I want to make sure.
460
00:18:49,084 --> 00:18:51,391
Do you not listen?
461
00:18:51,521 --> 00:18:52,870
I got the axe.
462
00:18:53,001 --> 00:18:54,829
I don't have to
fucking listen to you!
463
00:18:54,959 --> 00:18:56,744
I'm in this to have
fun, but I'm not in this
464
00:18:56,874 --> 00:18:58,702
to get my head cut
off with an axe, so--
465
00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:00,487
Well, lucky for you
it's just a prop axe,
466
00:19:00,617 --> 00:19:02,053
so-- it would just-- you
know, it wouldn't actually cut
467
00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:03,577
your head off.
468
00:19:03,707 --> 00:19:05,231
But we had to take her
out, so it happens.
469
00:19:05,361 --> 00:19:07,233
But just keep in mind, this
is just a big show, man.
470
00:19:07,363 --> 00:19:08,147
Just a play.
471
00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:09,235
This is just a play.
472
00:19:09,365 --> 00:19:10,714
We're putting on a big old play.
473
00:19:10,845 --> 00:19:12,020
Like in the old movies,
back in the '40s.
474
00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:13,761
Just putting on a
show, everybody!
475
00:19:13,891 --> 00:19:14,675
Yea!
476
00:19:14,805 --> 00:19:16,285
Just putting on a play.
477
00:19:16,416 --> 00:19:17,634
That's-- you know, Mickey
Rooney and Judy Garland.
478
00:19:17,765 --> 00:19:19,897
Let's do it.
479
00:19:20,028 --> 00:19:21,769
I was terrorized.
480
00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:24,293
And it took me a long time to
get over it the first time.
481
00:19:24,424 --> 00:19:25,033
It took me months.
482
00:19:29,646 --> 00:19:30,691
Now, you say the first time.
483
00:19:33,389 --> 00:19:34,608
The The first time.
484
00:19:34,738 --> 00:19:36,000
Because--
485
00:19:36,131 --> 00:19:37,480
And the first
time, I went alone.
486
00:19:37,611 --> 00:19:40,918
Yeah, but then you
went-- you went back.
487
00:19:41,049 --> 00:19:42,529
I did.
488
00:19:42,659 --> 00:19:45,358
I tricked her into The
Haunt three different times.
489
00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:47,795
Well, why did you--
490
00:19:47,925 --> 00:19:48,404
Why?
491
00:19:48,535 --> 00:19:49,362
Why?
492
00:19:49,492 --> 00:19:50,841
Why did you tell her--
493
00:19:50,972 --> 00:19:52,626
Because I want the
footage, that's why.
494
00:19:52,756 --> 00:19:54,715
Because I'll do anything to
get that special footage.
495
00:19:54,845 --> 00:19:57,108
There's live snakes
i this room, Grace.
496
00:19:57,239 --> 00:19:58,022
Oh, god.
497
00:19:58,153 --> 00:19:59,285
You said there was--
498
00:19:59,415 --> 00:20:00,721
We lied.
499
00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,288
There was nothing that said--
500
00:20:02,418 --> 00:20:04,115
We lied!
501
00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:07,118
So while I do and say just
about anything, I guess I will.
502
00:20:07,249 --> 00:20:11,819
Because as a filmmaker, you're
thinking about the shot.
503
00:20:11,949 --> 00:20:15,649
I probably wouldn't do The Haunt
if I wasn't able to film it,
504
00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:19,609
because I want the world
to see what I'm doing.
505
00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:22,699
It's known as McKamey Manor,
the most outrageous haunt
506
00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:24,266
in the country.
507
00:20:24,397 --> 00:20:26,616
[laughter]
508
00:20:26,747 --> 00:20:28,488
Extreme haunts, where
they're grabbing you,
509
00:20:28,618 --> 00:20:30,968
spitting in your faces, hitting
you, and doing everything--
510
00:20:31,099 --> 00:20:31,926
that was--
511
00:20:32,056 --> 00:20:33,449
that was my childhood.
512
00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:35,234
That was big brothers
being big brothers.
513
00:20:35,364 --> 00:20:37,671
If you put me in a room
with a boxcutter, a chair,
514
00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:39,325
and some duct tape,
I guarantee you
515
00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:41,631
you'll have the most horrifying
experience in your life.
516
00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:43,546
I don't see that as
having any skill at all.
517
00:20:43,677 --> 00:20:45,244
It's a hack job.
518
00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:47,507
Why do anybody go to
this extreme to get scared?
519
00:20:47,637 --> 00:20:49,552
Don't you think that's
a little too much?
520
00:20:49,683 --> 00:20:51,380
We're in a world of extremes.
521
00:20:51,511 --> 00:20:53,339
Someone's trying to
outdo somebody else,
522
00:20:53,469 --> 00:20:56,951
and I there's a lot of
trends that are going on.
523
00:20:57,081 --> 00:20:58,474
I mean, how often
is someone going
524
00:20:58,605 --> 00:21:00,781
to want to have a bag
put over their head,
525
00:21:00,911 --> 00:21:02,435
and have a gun
stuffed in their face?
526
00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:03,131
[gunshot]
527
00:21:04,698 --> 00:21:06,439
So it's deeply ironic
that there's actually
528
00:21:06,569 --> 00:21:09,964
a lot of fear in the fear based
industry, especially when it
529
00:21:10,094 --> 00:21:13,707
comes to new content, new
ways of scaring people,
530
00:21:13,837 --> 00:21:15,404
embracing new ideas.
531
00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:17,232
There are a lot of
haunted houses out there
532
00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:20,279
that have been doing it the
same way for a long time.
533
00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:23,020
[camera shutter clicking]
534
00:21:25,936 --> 00:21:27,460
Horror is fantasy.
535
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:28,809
It's escapism.
536
00:21:28,939 --> 00:21:31,681
There's a reason
why the horror genre
537
00:21:31,812 --> 00:21:33,335
was born in the Depression.
538
00:21:33,466 --> 00:21:35,294
You know, why Universal's
classic horror films--
539
00:21:35,424 --> 00:21:37,731
"Dracula," "Frankenstein," and
"The Wolfman," "The Mummy--"
540
00:21:37,861 --> 00:21:39,994
all those films were
born in the depression
541
00:21:40,124 --> 00:21:43,606
because people needed escape.
542
00:21:43,737 --> 00:21:46,479
In the early 1900s, a lot
of American amusement parks
543
00:21:46,609 --> 00:21:48,219
couldn't afford to
build a rollercoaster,
544
00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:50,047
and instead they'd go
for the cheap thrills,
545
00:21:50,178 --> 00:21:52,223
and build a haunted house.
546
00:21:52,354 --> 00:21:55,531
The JCs, the Junior
Chamber of Commerce,
547
00:21:55,662 --> 00:21:58,491
they were involved with
Halloween events dating back
548
00:21:58,621 --> 00:22:00,797
to the '20s, and into the '50s.
549
00:22:00,928 --> 00:22:03,147
Doing Halloween
parades in the '60s.
550
00:22:03,278 --> 00:22:05,324
And then by the
early '70s they were
551
00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:09,328
doing the JC haunted houses.
552
00:22:09,458 --> 00:22:12,548
Dracula grabs his victim
and hauls her away,
553
00:22:12,679 --> 00:22:14,637
down inside of the casket.
554
00:22:14,768 --> 00:22:17,684
Obviously she's a plant.
555
00:22:17,814 --> 00:22:19,381
Now, don't get too
close to the audience
556
00:22:19,512 --> 00:22:20,556
if you're playing a monster.
557
00:22:20,687 --> 00:22:22,341
They're liable to strike back.
558
00:22:22,471 --> 00:22:25,909
And here in Livonia, Michigan,
these enterprising JC's
559
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,826
ran 20,000 to 30,000 kids and
adults through this house.
560
00:22:32,873 --> 00:22:34,353
They did them for
fundraisers then,
561
00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:37,399
and they still do
them to this day.
562
00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:38,879
What a lot of
people don't realize
563
00:22:39,009 --> 00:22:40,402
is an evangelical
Christian group
564
00:22:40,533 --> 00:22:42,361
called Youth For Christ
was one of the biggest
565
00:22:42,491 --> 00:22:43,840
influences on haunting.
566
00:22:43,971 --> 00:22:45,886
They started Campus
Life Haunted Houses.
567
00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:48,671
The first haunt I ever went
to was something called Campus
568
00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:51,370
Life, and I remember being
just terrified of going
569
00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:52,806
through that.
570
00:22:52,936 --> 00:22:55,069
It was Campus Life
that created a lot
571
00:22:55,199 --> 00:22:56,897
of the standard
elements that are found
572
00:22:57,027 --> 00:22:59,465
in haunted attractions today.
573
00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:01,380
They did the-- you know,
the checkered rooms.
574
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:03,730
They did the-- you
know, the surgery scene.
575
00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:05,775
They did the clowns.
576
00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:10,171
And this was an effort to
get youth more involved
577
00:23:10,301 --> 00:23:11,912
with the church.
578
00:23:12,042 --> 00:23:13,392
When I went through that
and came out the other side,
579
00:23:13,522 --> 00:23:15,045
it was like, wow, that's
what I want to do.
580
00:23:15,176 --> 00:23:17,831
I want to create
haunted attractions.
581
00:23:17,961 --> 00:23:20,834
In the mid to late
'80s to early '90s,
582
00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:23,706
Not Scary Farm was Halloween.
583
00:23:23,837 --> 00:23:27,188
In 1973, Knott's Berry Farm
became the world's first theme
584
00:23:27,318 --> 00:23:29,495
park haunt.
585
00:23:29,625 --> 00:23:31,758
They changed the whole theme
park over for Halloween
586
00:23:31,888 --> 00:23:33,760
to a Halloween event.
587
00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:36,502
[screaming]
588
00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,025
Hi!
589
00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:39,635
[screaming]
590
00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:42,029
The tried and true,
traditional haunted houses
591
00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,684
that you see, that
you've seen forever--
592
00:23:44,814 --> 00:23:46,599
they're the ones that
are the most successful,
593
00:23:46,729 --> 00:23:48,078
and they're the
ones that are going
594
00:23:48,209 --> 00:23:49,340
to continue to be successful.
595
00:23:49,471 --> 00:23:50,429
[screaming]
596
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:52,692
So it's kind of crazy.
597
00:23:52,822 --> 00:23:54,302
I'm basically,
like, a 10-year-old.
598
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:55,912
I get to do what I
dreamed of doing as a kid,
599
00:23:56,043 --> 00:23:57,740
only I do it on the
biggest stage in the world
600
00:23:57,871 --> 00:23:59,220
for this type o event.
601
00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:01,744
John Murdy is living
my personal dream.
602
00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:03,616
He started off as
a home haunter.
603
00:24:03,746 --> 00:24:06,706
He is now the creative director
for Universal Halloween Horror
604
00:24:06,836 --> 00:24:08,534
Nights, which, as
far as I'm concerned,
605
00:24:08,664 --> 00:24:11,058
is the best in the country.
606
00:24:11,188 --> 00:24:13,974
His work is a tremendous
inspiration to me.
607
00:24:14,104 --> 00:24:16,411
The man should be knighted,
as far as I'm concerned.
608
00:24:16,542 --> 00:24:19,153
My favorite haunt
would be Universal.
609
00:24:19,283 --> 00:24:21,721
You know, I mean, how do
you beat those guys, right?
610
00:24:21,851 --> 00:24:24,898
You know, you got the
sets, and you got the--
611
00:24:25,028 --> 00:24:25,942
the production value.
612
00:24:26,073 --> 00:24:27,596
And I love all that stuff.
613
00:24:27,727 --> 00:24:29,946
I'm a-- I'm a sucker for
all the bells and whistles.
614
00:24:30,077 --> 00:24:34,037
Now, just imagine what you could
do with their sets and props,
615
00:24:34,168 --> 00:24:36,083
but turning it into
an extreme scenario.
616
00:24:36,213 --> 00:24:37,911
That's what I think
about when I go through.
617
00:24:38,041 --> 00:24:39,129
[screaming]
618
00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:42,742
The good old haunted house,
we confront our biggest fears.
619
00:24:42,872 --> 00:24:46,006
It makes us feel confident,
like we overcame.
620
00:24:46,136 --> 00:24:48,748
There are so many things in this
world that we can't control.
621
00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:50,706
Very big things that
we can't control,
622
00:24:50,837 --> 00:24:55,450
like economic failure,
terrorism, war.
623
00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:56,886
September 11th.
624
00:24:57,017 --> 00:25:00,020
Thoughts definitely
arose at Knotts'.
625
00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:03,937
Are people going to be in
the mood for Halloween?
626
00:25:04,067 --> 00:25:06,417
And the guests
flooded the gates.
627
00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:09,203
The park sold out.
628
00:25:09,333 --> 00:25:13,033
2003 was the first
time most people had ever
629
00:25:13,163 --> 00:25:14,948
seen any real life torture.
630
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,128
And it changed the horror genre.
631
00:25:21,258 --> 00:25:23,565
"Saw," James Wan's
first film, would go on
632
00:25:23,696 --> 00:25:26,525
to produce one of the largest
horror franchises today.
633
00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:30,877
From there we saw the
birth of torture porn.
634
00:25:31,007 --> 00:25:32,618
After Gitmo and
waterboarding came
635
00:25:32,748 --> 00:25:34,707
to light to the vast
American public,
636
00:25:34,837 --> 00:25:38,362
we saw "Hostel," which took
it to another extreme level
637
00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:42,236
with detailed,
realistic violence.
638
00:25:42,366 --> 00:25:45,369
We grew this event, by
the way, in the recession.
639
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,676
The worst economic
crisis this country
640
00:25:47,807 --> 00:25:49,852
has seen since the
Great Depression.
641
00:25:49,983 --> 00:25:51,941
What in the world is
happening on Wall Street?
642
00:25:52,072 --> 00:25:53,726
And I remember
reporters coming up to me
643
00:25:53,856 --> 00:25:55,902
and going, you know,
what's scarier--
644
00:25:56,032 --> 00:25:58,513
Halloween Horror
Nights, or my 401k?
645
00:25:58,644 --> 00:26:01,037
I'm Robert Davis, and I'm a
member of the United States Air
646
00:26:01,168 --> 00:26:04,954
Force, and I build a haunted
house for service members.
647
00:26:05,085 --> 00:26:07,609
This was my first time doing
a haunt in a war zone and,
648
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:10,220
you know, I was kind of curious
how people would react, and--
649
00:26:10,351 --> 00:26:12,527
[motor buzzing]
650
00:26:14,137 --> 00:26:15,835
It turns out that people
act the same as they would
651
00:26:15,965 --> 00:26:17,097
if they were back stateside.
652
00:26:17,227 --> 00:26:18,794
They want some relief.
653
00:26:18,925 --> 00:26:20,796
It gives them an opportunity,
again, to deal with it,
654
00:26:20,927 --> 00:26:22,581
to process it in a
different way than, you
655
00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:24,583
know, just sitting in a
room and thinking about,
656
00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:26,628
oh my god, I saw
something really bad.
657
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,412
We had a lot of people
come up at the end,
658
00:26:28,543 --> 00:26:30,850
and they really thanked us
for putting this together,
659
00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:32,373
because it gave
them an opportunity
660
00:26:32,503 --> 00:26:34,984
to let loose and feel
like they weren't
661
00:26:35,115 --> 00:26:38,640
in an undisclosed location in
southwest Asia for the night.
662
00:26:38,771 --> 00:26:41,208
I think it can be a
healing experience, even
663
00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,558
for some people, but potentially
very dangerous as well,
664
00:26:43,689 --> 00:26:46,996
if you don't know what
you're signing up for.
665
00:26:47,127 --> 00:26:49,651
The first extreme
haunt was Blackout.
666
00:26:49,782 --> 00:26:52,001
Blackout was
completely different
667
00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:53,873
than anybody else's haunt.
668
00:26:54,003 --> 00:26:56,440
A lot of the things that we
had been seeing in the media,
669
00:26:56,571 --> 00:26:59,618
and then that we were seeing
portrayed in these torture porn
670
00:26:59,748 --> 00:27:00,706
films--
671
00:27:00,836 --> 00:27:02,577
they were doing to the patrons.
672
00:27:02,708 --> 00:27:04,144
So many of the
people that came
673
00:27:04,274 --> 00:27:07,147
in the very beginning
of the run were really,
674
00:27:07,277 --> 00:27:10,977
genuinely, like, I don't believe
that there is an experience
675
00:27:11,107 --> 00:27:14,415
that I'm going to pay for that's
going to humiliate me, and make
676
00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:20,290
me feel bad, and rip my
clothes, and try to fuck me up.
677
00:27:20,421 --> 00:27:22,858
But there we were.
678
00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:27,428
I've been to haunted houses
my entire life, years on end.
679
00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:29,822
There's nothing like this one.
680
00:27:29,952 --> 00:27:32,738
Blackout is an immersive
horror experience
681
00:27:32,868 --> 00:27:35,741
that's designed for people to
walk through by themselves.
682
00:27:35,871 --> 00:27:37,568
You're alone the whole time.
683
00:27:37,699 --> 00:27:39,353
To confront really basic fears.
684
00:27:39,483 --> 00:27:41,834
I think they were the first
ones to use naked people.
685
00:27:41,964 --> 00:27:43,531
There's one little part where
you crawl through a space,
686
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:45,098
and there was a naked
guy chasing you,
687
00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:47,274
which was very disturbing.
688
00:27:47,404 --> 00:27:48,928
There's a reason
we use nudity.
689
00:27:49,058 --> 00:27:51,670
It strips away any artifice
that could possibly
690
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,107
take place between
you and the person
691
00:27:54,237 --> 00:27:55,761
standing in front of you.
692
00:27:55,891 --> 00:27:57,545
Because all of a sudden,
the audience member sort of
693
00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,329
looks you up and down,
and they're like--
694
00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:01,854
that's not fake.
695
00:28:01,984 --> 00:28:04,073
What are you going to do to me?
696
00:28:04,204 --> 00:28:05,684
I think it's the
dream of wanting
697
00:28:05,814 --> 00:28:07,511
to be in a horror movie.
698
00:28:07,642 --> 00:28:10,819
I got to do things in there
that I've only dreamt of doing.
699
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:14,431
Things that I would
lose my marriage over.
700
00:28:14,562 --> 00:28:17,739
Things that would put me in
jail for the rest of my life.
701
00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:19,523
And I just got to
do it at Blackout.
702
00:28:19,654 --> 00:28:22,048
I kind of feel like showering.
703
00:28:22,178 --> 00:28:23,876
But, like, holding
myself in the shower.
704
00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:25,442
You know what I'm saying?
705
00:28:25,573 --> 00:28:26,835
Like, curling up into,
like, a little ball.
706
00:28:26,966 --> 00:28:27,793
Not what I expected.
707
00:28:30,491 --> 00:28:32,275
Totally awesome.
708
00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:34,408
I think they could have made
it a little bit more intense.
709
00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:37,411
I would love to bring, like,
the pledgers here for, like,
710
00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:38,499
a night.
711
00:28:38,629 --> 00:28:39,630
That would be fun for them.
712
00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:40,893
That would be a good time.
713
00:28:41,023 --> 00:28:42,372
They'd shit their
pants, for sure.
714
00:28:42,503 --> 00:28:45,419
It's an immersion, and--
715
00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:46,550
perversion.
716
00:28:46,681 --> 00:28:47,943
Sex.
717
00:28:48,074 --> 00:28:49,597
Killing.
718
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:52,861
And-- true-- true theater.
719
00:28:52,992 --> 00:28:55,472
Because people spend so much--
especially young people spend
720
00:28:55,603 --> 00:28:59,085
so much time looking at a
screen, mostly their phones,
721
00:28:59,215 --> 00:29:02,218
that suddenly live events
are, like, taking on new life,
722
00:29:02,349 --> 00:29:03,742
because it feels so different.
723
00:29:03,872 --> 00:29:06,353
And you can talk about
it on the screens.
724
00:29:06,483 --> 00:29:08,834
You can say that you did
this, or you survived that.
725
00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:11,227
And in a funny way,
social media has
726
00:29:11,358 --> 00:29:14,753
made live events more
prevalent than they used to be.
727
00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:16,624
When they go through,
the audience members
728
00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:17,538
have a safe word.
729
00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:19,148
The safe word is safety.
730
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:20,367
And as soon as you hear
a safe word, you're like--
731
00:29:20,497 --> 00:29:21,498
that gets you excited.
732
00:29:21,629 --> 00:29:22,630
Because it's, like--
733
00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:23,762
Sex and violence.
734
00:29:23,892 --> 00:29:25,067
You're just, like, oh.
735
00:29:25,198 --> 00:29:26,199
Safe word.
736
00:29:26,329 --> 00:29:28,114
Or-- oh, can make it through?
737
00:29:28,244 --> 00:29:31,987
I just yelled the safety word
in Blackout after 15 seconds,
738
00:29:32,118 --> 00:29:33,467
because I was so scared.
739
00:29:33,597 --> 00:29:34,773
All they need
to do is call it.
740
00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:41,692
And, um-- the show will stop.
741
00:29:44,347 --> 00:29:46,045
Does Victim Experience
have a safe word?
742
00:29:46,175 --> 00:29:46,741
Yes.
743
00:29:46,872 --> 00:29:47,611
It does?
744
00:29:47,742 --> 00:29:49,048
There's only one.
745
00:29:49,178 --> 00:29:49,875
Does Freakling Brothers
have a safe word?
746
00:29:50,005 --> 00:29:50,658
Yes.
747
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:51,615
They all do.
748
00:29:51,746 --> 00:29:52,312
The only one--
749
00:29:52,442 --> 00:29:53,792
Just one.
750
00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:55,924
McKamey Manor does
not have a safe word.
751
00:29:56,055 --> 00:29:57,143
That's just weak.
752
00:29:57,273 --> 00:29:57,752
No.
753
00:29:57,883 --> 00:29:58,318
No!
754
00:29:58,448 --> 00:29:59,058
No!
755
00:29:59,188 --> 00:29:59,798
No!
756
00:29:59,928 --> 00:30:00,711
I can't do this!
757
00:30:00,842 --> 00:30:01,495
Please let me out!
758
00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:02,452
Let me! down!
759
00:30:02,583 --> 00:30:03,366
I can't see anything!
760
00:30:03,497 --> 00:30:05,238
Get me down!
761
00:30:05,368 --> 00:30:08,589
I think that if they
had a safe word here,
762
00:30:08,719 --> 00:30:11,897
they would use it right away.
763
00:30:12,027 --> 00:30:15,117
Because I don't think
that they realize what
764
00:30:15,248 --> 00:30:17,163
they've gotten themselves into.
765
00:30:17,293 --> 00:30:20,644
And once you get through
that gate, you're his.
766
00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:22,516
And you're going to
do whatever he says.
767
00:30:22,646 --> 00:30:24,953
Because you're not going to get
out of the house until you do.
768
00:30:25,084 --> 00:30:26,999
And I know what
they're trying to do.
769
00:30:27,129 --> 00:30:29,479
I know what they're
trying to do,
770
00:30:29,610 --> 00:30:32,831
but the way that
they're doing it, by--
771
00:30:32,961 --> 00:30:35,311
it's physically
abusing the people.
772
00:30:35,442 --> 00:30:37,096
Even though they
say they're not,
773
00:30:37,226 --> 00:30:38,967
and they're fine afterwards--
774
00:30:39,098 --> 00:30:41,578
you know, when a cat
plays with a mouse,
775
00:30:41,709 --> 00:30:44,886
when the mouse is dead,
there's no more fun in it.
776
00:30:45,017 --> 00:30:46,279
That's how I like to haunt.
777
00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:48,107
I like to keep my mouse alive.
778
00:30:48,237 --> 00:30:51,110
My mouse can get out at any
point, get away from me,
779
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,502
move on.
780
00:30:52,633 --> 00:30:53,982
But while I'm
there, I have them.
781
00:30:54,113 --> 00:30:55,810
I'll play with them,
I'll do what I want.
782
00:30:55,941 --> 00:30:57,899
But at any point, they
could get away from me.
783
00:30:58,030 --> 00:30:59,858
I'm never going to put
somebody in the position
784
00:30:59,988 --> 00:31:01,555
where they can't get away.
785
00:31:01,685 --> 00:31:02,861
Where's the fun in that?
786
00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:04,688
It's not just scaring people.
787
00:31:04,819 --> 00:31:06,777
You have to scare them right,
so the camera can see it.
788
00:31:06,908 --> 00:31:08,867
Because the camera is
what makes the movie.
789
00:31:08,997 --> 00:31:12,783
What makes the movie
is what makes the fans.
790
00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:18,050
He works on those
videos, it seems like 24/7.
791
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:22,445
And so I constantly hear
screaming all night long.
792
00:31:22,576 --> 00:31:24,230
[screaming]
793
00:31:25,796 --> 00:31:28,364
I've spent so many
hours with them,
794
00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:30,584
it's like they're
my new best friend.
795
00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:31,628
Oh my god!
796
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:33,456
The guests are the actors.
797
00:31:33,587 --> 00:31:36,546
They are my stars, because
each person that goes through,
798
00:31:36,677 --> 00:31:38,505
I'm basically
editing in my mind,
799
00:31:38,635 --> 00:31:39,810
I'm trying get the shot I want.
800
00:31:39,941 --> 00:31:41,334
I want the angle I want.
801
00:31:41,464 --> 00:31:43,553
And my favorite shot is
up close and personal.
802
00:31:43,684 --> 00:31:45,120
2-3 inches from your face.
803
00:31:45,251 --> 00:31:47,949
That's how we can see
the fear in your eyes.
804
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,865
I have to get real fear.
805
00:31:50,996 --> 00:31:54,434
It's taking them to the
ledge, and tossing them off.
806
00:31:54,564 --> 00:31:58,960
And laughing as they cruise down
that hill at 100 miles an hour.
807
00:31:59,091 --> 00:32:00,005
Oh, shit!
808
00:32:00,135 --> 00:32:02,137
It's actually very PG-13.
809
00:32:02,268 --> 00:32:04,096
Although it's kind
of R rated, in the
810
00:32:04,226 --> 00:32:06,011
sense that-- of
the violence level.
811
00:32:06,141 --> 00:32:08,448
This isn't just a haunt.
812
00:32:08,578 --> 00:32:09,579
This is an experience.
813
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:11,451
It's not going to scare you.
814
00:32:11,581 --> 00:32:12,931
It's going to scar you.
815
00:32:13,061 --> 00:32:14,584
Safety is always paramount.
816
00:32:14,715 --> 00:32:15,934
No one's ever been hurt.
817
00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:17,370
Didn't someone have
a heart attack?
818
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:18,849
Yeah.
819
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:20,242
Besides the heart
attack victim, yeah.
820
00:32:20,373 --> 00:32:21,548
Yeah, we did have
one heart attack.
821
00:32:21,678 --> 00:32:22,941
What's your worst
fear about what
822
00:32:23,071 --> 00:32:24,681
could possibly go wrong here?
823
00:32:27,336 --> 00:32:29,338
Oh my god.
824
00:32:29,469 --> 00:32:30,644
You want me to put that on film?
825
00:32:36,563 --> 00:32:39,740
Folks, of course, they--
they have panic attacks,
826
00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:42,134
and things do happen.
827
00:32:42,264 --> 00:32:45,615
I do want you guys to have
really good improv skills.
828
00:32:45,746 --> 00:32:47,487
When they throw
up, what do you do?
829
00:32:47,617 --> 00:32:49,968
You pick up their throw up, and
you put it back in their face.
830
00:32:50,098 --> 00:32:51,230
That's what you do.
831
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,100
Or you put it back
in their mouth.
832
00:32:52,231 --> 00:32:53,188
And what happens?
833
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:54,320
They're going to throw up again.
834
00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:56,104
Now, that sounds gross, right?
835
00:32:56,235 --> 00:32:58,019
But it makes for
sme killer footage.
836
00:32:58,150 --> 00:33:01,631
And I think that's very
fascinating, because art--
837
00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:03,503
as my father, who's a
painter, has told me--
838
00:33:03,633 --> 00:33:06,288
it's not so everybody likes it.
839
00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:08,247
After I'm dead and
gone, those films
840
00:33:08,377 --> 00:33:10,945
are going to be circling
the internet still,
841
00:33:11,076 --> 00:33:12,991
causing all kinds of
hate and discontent.
842
00:33:13,121 --> 00:33:15,689
And how cool is that?
843
00:33:15,819 --> 00:33:18,518
I don't like you anymore, Russ.
844
00:33:18,648 --> 00:33:20,607
You can't be my friend anymore.
845
00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:21,347
I'm your friend.
846
00:33:21,477 --> 00:33:22,391
No, you're not.
847
00:33:22,522 --> 00:33:23,479
You would have let me out.
848
00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:25,438
And I was fucking serious, too.
849
00:33:25,568 --> 00:33:27,527
I'm teaching you to
conquer your fears.
850
00:33:27,657 --> 00:33:29,007
Bullshit.
851
00:33:29,137 --> 00:33:30,617
I mean, is it-- is
it a control issue?
852
00:33:30,747 --> 00:33:32,445
Is it about power?
853
00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:39,495
Is it-- is it fun to see people
freaked out, and screaming?
854
00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:43,108
And-- I mean, what kind
of person does that?
855
00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:46,024
I first got involved with the
McKamey Manor down the street
856
00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:50,419
here at a park where Russ
was DJing, and he announced--
857
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:53,292
hey, we need actors
for a haunted house.
858
00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:55,555
Anybody-- we're always
looking for actors.
859
00:33:55,685 --> 00:33:57,122
And, anybody want to help out?
860
00:33:57,252 --> 00:33:58,427
And I was like, my friend--
861
00:33:58,558 --> 00:33:59,994
I was like, that
would be so cool.
862
00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,430
Like, I could be an evil
mermaid, or something.
863
00:34:01,561 --> 00:34:03,084
For a lot of
years, we were known
864
00:34:03,215 --> 00:34:05,217
as the haunt that
basically employed
865
00:34:05,347 --> 00:34:07,480
every kid in the block.
866
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:08,263
And when--
867
00:34:08,394 --> 00:34:09,830
Employed them?
868
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,266
Well, employed them
with pizza and candy.
869
00:34:11,397 --> 00:34:12,963
So you can't get better
than that, right?
870
00:34:13,094 --> 00:34:15,618
I've been working at
McKamey Manor for twoyears.
871
00:34:15,749 --> 00:34:16,924
I love acting here.
872
00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:18,708
It's the best job I've ever had.
873
00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:20,232
I was extremely shy.
874
00:34:20,362 --> 00:34:21,842
And then I think in
about a year, I really
875
00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:23,322
got out of my shell.
876
00:34:23,452 --> 00:34:25,237
And I was throwing
people on the ground.
877
00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:27,978
Like, throwing people in
pools, screaming in their face.
878
00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:30,198
I've definitely come a long
way since I first got here.
879
00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:33,071
After school, I'd
finish my homework,
880
00:34:33,201 --> 00:34:34,768
and then I'd be
like, man, I wonder
881
00:34:34,898 --> 00:34:38,076
what I'm going to do for
McKamey Manor this weekend.
882
00:34:38,206 --> 00:34:39,990
[screaming]
883
00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:40,948
Get in here!
884
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:42,384
No!
885
00:34:42,515 --> 00:34:44,169
Oh, god!
886
00:34:44,299 --> 00:34:50,088
The kids-- it's just tough
to reel them in, sometimes.
887
00:34:50,218 --> 00:34:51,698
It becomes addicting
once you make
888
00:34:51,828 --> 00:34:54,831
that first scare out
of something so simple,
889
00:34:54,962 --> 00:34:56,181
and then it just--
890
00:34:56,311 --> 00:34:57,617
you can't stop.
891
00:34:57,747 --> 00:35:00,446
Well, we had this
one actress who--
892
00:35:00,576 --> 00:35:02,491
it was either her
teacher, or her neighbor,
893
00:35:02,622 --> 00:35:07,540
but she did not like
it that she was here.
894
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:11,848
And she went way overboard
with how aggressive
895
00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:13,633
she was with her.
896
00:35:13,763 --> 00:35:18,116
And we have-- we had
10 dogs at that point,
897
00:35:18,246 --> 00:35:26,254
and we have a huge garbage
can in the back for dog poop.
898
00:35:26,385 --> 00:35:29,301
And so she was--
899
00:35:29,431 --> 00:35:33,000
she, like, took the
lid off the dog poop,
900
00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:37,570
and she's, like, pushing her
face down in the dog poop.
901
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:40,094
It's tricky to
try to do something
902
00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:43,880
as extreme and controversial
as McKamey Manor,
903
00:35:44,011 --> 00:35:45,534
and keep it fresh every year.
904
00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:47,493
Because I'm not one to
have something stagnant.
905
00:35:47,623 --> 00:35:49,190
I'm not one to just
rest on my laurels.
906
00:35:49,321 --> 00:35:51,453
I'm all about upping the ante.
907
00:35:51,584 --> 00:35:53,281
[screaming]
908
00:35:54,891 --> 00:35:57,459
So we kind of, you
know, have our moments
909
00:35:57,590 --> 00:36:03,335
where we don't connect on
exactly what his vision is,
910
00:36:03,465 --> 00:36:04,901
and what I think it should be.
911
00:36:05,032 --> 00:36:06,381
I'm like, you can't do this.
912
00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:08,340
You cannot feed them this.
913
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:10,429
What if somebody's
allergic to this?
914
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,606
And we have a lot of discussions
and disagreements about it,
915
00:36:13,736 --> 00:36:16,043
but eventually we
come to a point.
916
00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:20,003
But it's stressful to
to go from his vision
917
00:36:20,134 --> 00:36:22,049
to what can actually happen.
918
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,444
I need people that really
step up to the plate,
919
00:36:25,574 --> 00:36:30,188
and not be afraid to pick
people up, body slam 'em.
920
00:36:30,318 --> 00:36:33,669
You're clearly
violating people.
921
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,585
When you grab somebody,
you're assaulting them.
922
00:36:36,716 --> 00:36:38,631
When you're holding
them against their will,
923
00:36:38,761 --> 00:36:40,241
it's restraint and kidnapping.
924
00:36:40,372 --> 00:36:43,070
There's no sexual themes.
925
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:45,333
There's no cussing.
926
00:36:45,464 --> 00:36:48,206
You know, we're not degrading
anybody, like Blackout.
927
00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:50,382
Do you need to go
the sexual route?
928
00:36:50,512 --> 00:36:54,429
You need to simulate rape, and
other really horrible things
929
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,214
out there?
930
00:36:56,344 --> 00:36:58,607
You know, emotional hurt,
emotional scarring is like,
931
00:36:58,738 --> 00:37:02,785
one thing that I think Blackout
has cornered pretty decently.
932
00:37:02,916 --> 00:37:04,744
But, you know, we
don't ever want
933
00:37:04,874 --> 00:37:06,528
to physically hurt somebody.
934
00:37:06,659 --> 00:37:07,790
Would you go through your won?
935
00:37:07,921 --> 00:37:09,401
Of course not.
936
00:37:09,531 --> 00:37:10,663
Of course not.
937
00:37:10,793 --> 00:37:12,404
Because I have common sense.
938
00:37:12,534 --> 00:37:14,667
Once we have certain
ideas, we'll kind of
939
00:37:14,797 --> 00:37:16,582
throw each other through it.
940
00:37:16,712 --> 00:37:18,627
Chris and I were working
really late one night,
941
00:37:18,758 --> 00:37:20,063
building the set.
942
00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:21,848
It's possible that
we were drinking.
943
00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:25,155
And when I came out of the
restroom, all of the lights
944
00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:27,288
were turned off.
945
00:37:27,419 --> 00:37:30,073
I remember this feeling
being like, oh, shit.
946
00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:31,901
Something's about to happen.
947
00:37:32,032 --> 00:37:33,381
And I sort of was like, Chris?
948
00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:35,078
Where are you?
949
00:37:35,209 --> 00:37:38,038
And out of nowhere, he
just came charging at me.
950
00:37:38,168 --> 00:37:40,127
And like, as he got closer
and closer, I was like,
951
00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:42,042
is that a fucking staple gun?
952
00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:44,697
And he just put it to my
chest and started hammering
953
00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:46,394
the staple gun into my chest.
954
00:37:46,525 --> 00:37:48,483
And I'm screaming bloody murder.
955
00:37:48,614 --> 00:37:50,964
And then we were sort of like,
here, let me do it to you.
956
00:37:51,094 --> 00:37:52,792
Wait, is it weirder to
do it on your chest,
957
00:37:52,922 --> 00:37:53,967
or weirder to do
it on your hand?
958
00:37:54,097 --> 00:37:55,403
Oh my god, your hand, your hand.
959
00:37:55,534 --> 00:37:56,970
No, no.
960
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:58,841
But that was exactly how
that idea was started.
961
00:37:58,972 --> 00:38:03,019
All the things that scare me
is what I did with this haunt.
962
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,632
So why would I ever
go through this haunt?
963
00:38:06,762 --> 00:38:08,503
That would be stupid of me.
964
00:38:08,634 --> 00:38:15,641
He is afraid of everything.
965
00:38:15,771 --> 00:38:16,337
OK, stop!
966
00:38:16,468 --> 00:38:17,425
Seriously!
967
00:38:17,556 --> 00:38:18,426
I hate creepy crawlies, man.
968
00:38:18,557 --> 00:38:23,823
He's afraid of snails.
969
00:38:23,953 --> 00:38:25,520
Freaking-- stop!
970
00:38:25,651 --> 00:38:26,565
Stop, stop, stop, stop!
971
00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:29,481
OK, OK, OK!
972
00:38:29,611 --> 00:38:31,439
I fucking hate snails.
973
00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:32,397
Sorry.
974
00:38:32,527 --> 00:38:33,180
I'm scared.
975
00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:33,920
I'm scared.
976
00:38:34,050 --> 00:38:35,269
I'm scared.
977
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:35,835
You lose yourself
in the haunt.
978
00:38:38,925 --> 00:38:43,321
When you come out, you're--
you're a puddle of mass.
979
00:38:43,451 --> 00:38:45,584
What did you think?
980
00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:48,195
Um--
981
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:49,849
What time did you get
here this morning?
982
00:38:49,979 --> 00:38:52,242
7:30 in the morning.
983
00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:53,505
[screaming]
984
00:38:53,635 --> 00:38:54,636
You waited, like, 11 hours?
985
00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:55,768
Yes.
986
00:38:55,898 --> 00:38:57,291
I'll do it again.
987
00:38:57,422 --> 00:38:59,293
Are you gonna come
back and see us again?
988
00:38:59,424 --> 00:39:00,773
No!
989
00:39:00,903 --> 00:39:03,210
[coughing]
990
00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:05,691
This is too scary.
991
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:11,044
These guys are nuts.
992
00:39:11,174 --> 00:39:13,351
But he's making money, ain't he?
993
00:39:13,481 --> 00:39:15,178
Actually, he doesn't
make any money doing it.
994
00:39:15,309 --> 00:39:16,615
Oh, really?
995
00:39:16,745 --> 00:39:18,356
So, the admission
price for McKamey Manor
996
00:39:18,486 --> 00:39:20,923
is four cans of dog food.
997
00:39:21,054 --> 00:39:23,404
He charges four
cans of dog food.
998
00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:25,450
Oh, that's awesome.
999
00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:27,190
Who eats that?
1000
00:39:27,321 --> 00:39:30,324
Which will be donated to
Operation Greyhound, which
1001
00:39:30,455 --> 00:39:32,239
is a Greyhound rescue society.
1002
00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:34,589
And that's where we got
all of our Greyhounds.
1003
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,722
Russ has a full
time job in the day.
1004
00:39:36,852 --> 00:39:39,464
He works for the
Veterans of Foreign Wars.
1005
00:39:39,594 --> 00:39:40,943
He's a service officer.
1006
00:39:41,074 --> 00:39:42,815
When I was getting
out of the Marine Corps,
1007
00:39:42,945 --> 00:39:45,426
I had to go down and file VA
claims, and things like that.
1008
00:39:45,557 --> 00:39:47,428
I think we talked for,
like, an hour and a half,
1009
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,038
or two hours about
the haunt, and then
1010
00:39:49,169 --> 00:39:50,388
finally, we talked
for 15 minutes
1011
00:39:50,518 --> 00:39:52,085
about what I was there for.
1012
00:39:52,215 --> 00:39:53,173
Talk about his other job.
1013
00:39:53,303 --> 00:39:56,394
Russ is a wedding singer.
1014
00:39:56,524 --> 00:39:59,397
[SINGING] Take my--
1015
00:39:59,527 --> 00:40:01,834
I cannot do this.
1016
00:40:01,964 --> 00:40:03,357
[screaming]
1017
00:40:03,488 --> 00:40:04,793
[SINGING] Take my hand.
1018
00:40:08,884 --> 00:40:10,277
And you're all mine.
1019
00:40:14,368 --> 00:40:18,764
[SINGING] I can't
help falling in love--
1020
00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:20,722
[screaming]
1021
00:40:20,853 --> 00:40:23,246
Oh, god!
1022
00:40:23,377 --> 00:40:24,247
Oh my god!
1023
00:40:24,378 --> 00:40:25,248
Look at my hands!
1024
00:40:25,379 --> 00:40:26,685
Look at this!
1025
00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:27,642
Look at my hand!
1026
00:40:30,384 --> 00:40:33,431
I've been DJing here at
Hazy Meadow for years.
1027
00:40:33,561 --> 00:40:36,869
We have a lot of really
good shows out here.
1028
00:40:36,999 --> 00:40:38,479
Great place for events.
1029
00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:43,005
I am Linda Haze, and we
live at Hazy Meadow Ranch.
1030
00:40:43,136 --> 00:40:47,967
We have been doing weddings and
events out here for 13 years.
1031
00:40:48,097 --> 00:40:52,624
And we met Russ, as he's the
world's best disk jockey.
1032
00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:53,929
A real entertainer.
1033
00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:55,322
What's he like,
just as a person?
1034
00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:56,889
Wonderful.
1035
00:40:57,019 --> 00:41:00,545
He's the warmest,
cuddliest, big teddy bear
1036
00:41:00,675 --> 00:41:03,548
you could ever hope to meet.
1037
00:41:03,678 --> 00:41:06,246
Every home haunter
wants to go pro.
1038
00:41:06,376 --> 00:41:08,161
Do you want to go pro as well?
1039
00:41:08,291 --> 00:41:09,467
I do.
1040
00:41:09,597 --> 00:41:11,033
You know, I worked
12 years on it.
1041
00:41:11,164 --> 00:41:12,731
It's-- you know--
1042
00:41:12,861 --> 00:41:16,343
I don't want it to just
fade away into nothing.
1043
00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:19,651
I don't think that people
realize how much money we lose
1044
00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:22,523
every time we run this haunt.
1045
00:41:22,654 --> 00:41:25,483
How much money have you
put into your haunt?
1046
00:41:25,613 --> 00:41:27,833
I'm happy that he kind of
kept to his budget this year.
1047
00:41:27,963 --> 00:41:30,705
Normally he spends
upwards-- over $1,000.
1048
00:41:30,836 --> 00:41:33,186
Throughout the years,
half a million, easy.
1049
00:41:33,316 --> 00:41:34,796
Easy.
1050
00:41:34,927 --> 00:41:36,102
Oh, easily.
1051
00:41:36,232 --> 00:41:37,451
And probably a lot
more than that.
1052
00:41:37,582 --> 00:41:40,323
Like, his entire savings.
1053
00:41:40,454 --> 00:41:43,762
And--
1054
00:41:43,892 --> 00:41:45,981
What's his budget?
1055
00:41:46,112 --> 00:41:48,418
300.
1056
00:41:48,549 --> 00:41:49,985
And he spent way more than that.
1057
00:41:50,116 --> 00:41:52,205
But still, I aimed low.
1058
00:41:52,335 --> 00:41:56,122
And this is a half a million
of just my hard earned--
1059
00:41:56,252 --> 00:41:57,602
and Carol's money.
1060
00:41:57,732 --> 00:41:59,865
I just wish I had
more space to create,
1061
00:41:59,995 --> 00:42:01,693
because I just want to create.
1062
00:42:01,823 --> 00:42:06,567
We knew that Russ had an
avocation of doing haunts
1063
00:42:06,698 --> 00:42:08,526
in his own backyard.
1064
00:42:08,656 --> 00:42:13,835
And so he mentioned to us, what
about bringing the haunt out
1065
00:42:13,966 --> 00:42:15,489
to Hazy Meadow?
1066
00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:17,665
So we decided to put the
haunt right in the middle
1067
00:42:17,796 --> 00:42:20,146
of our property, where nobody--
1068
00:42:20,276 --> 00:42:24,063
none of our neighbors would
be exposed to the sounds.
1069
00:42:24,193 --> 00:42:25,586
They have a lot
of space available,
1070
00:42:25,717 --> 00:42:26,718
and I thought, well,
you know, why not
1071
00:42:26,848 --> 00:42:28,197
try to do something out there?
1072
00:42:28,328 --> 00:42:29,808
We got this open area.
1073
00:42:29,938 --> 00:42:32,027
We've got this huge tennis
court, and I'm thinking,
1074
00:42:32,158 --> 00:42:33,551
I could do that.
1075
00:42:33,681 --> 00:42:37,555
It would be great to
have the backyard back.
1076
00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:41,080
And have room for the dogs,
and actually have, you know,
1077
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:47,608
barbecues, and all that stuff
that regular families have.
1078
00:42:47,739 --> 00:42:50,611
Going out to
check out the build.
1079
00:42:50,742 --> 00:42:52,395
It's only been going
on for a couple days,
1080
00:42:52,526 --> 00:42:55,485
but progress is
actually really good.
1081
00:42:55,616 --> 00:43:00,360
There's so much to do, and
it really is a small crew.
1082
00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:02,710
[machinery whirring]
1083
00:43:06,018 --> 00:43:10,849
He's wanted this since he was a
little kid, to be a pro haunt.
1084
00:43:10,979 --> 00:43:13,939
I bonded with haunts
with my dad, just by--
1085
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:16,637
you know, starting out trick
or treating, and always doing
1086
00:43:16,768 --> 00:43:18,508
the costume thing.
1087
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:19,901
And, of course, he'd have me
up on his shoulders, and stuff,
1088
00:43:20,032 --> 00:43:22,295
and I'd be, like,
just amazed at all
1089
00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:23,949
the lights, and the effects.
1090
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,648
And I just thought that
was the coolest thing ever.
1091
00:43:27,779 --> 00:43:30,608
When I was seven or
eight, me and my friend,
1092
00:43:30,738 --> 00:43:32,566
we used to build dummies.
1093
00:43:32,697 --> 00:43:34,873
And we used to go on
the roof, and then
1094
00:43:35,003 --> 00:43:38,616
as the cars would drive by,
we would dump these bodies
1095
00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:39,747
off the roof of the house.
1096
00:43:39,878 --> 00:43:41,749
These cars would
be freaking out.
1097
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,316
Even when I was in the Navy--
1098
00:43:43,446 --> 00:43:46,841
I was in the Navy for 22
years-- even on a ship,
1099
00:43:46,972 --> 00:43:49,365
I had a haunt going on.
1100
00:43:49,496 --> 00:43:52,238
I met Russ in 1977.
1101
00:43:52,368 --> 00:43:56,677
We were 17, and he had
a huge personality,
1102
00:43:56,808 --> 00:43:58,113
which he still has now.
1103
00:43:58,244 --> 00:44:01,377
I would go over to
his house, and he
1104
00:44:01,508 --> 00:44:03,423
would sing to me on the guitar.
1105
00:44:03,553 --> 00:44:05,947
It was very romantic to me.
1106
00:44:06,078 --> 00:44:08,602
Movies, acting, theater--
1107
00:44:08,733 --> 00:44:10,996
that's been my world since
I've been a little rascal.
1108
00:44:11,126 --> 00:44:12,171
A little guy, growing up.
1109
00:44:12,301 --> 00:44:13,215
Theater arts major.
1110
00:44:13,346 --> 00:44:15,304
I just love to entertain.
1111
00:44:15,435 --> 00:44:20,179
Russ used to sing at
restaurants up in Fullerton.
1112
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:24,270
And his dad, and his mom came up
with the name for his company,
1113
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,273
and would make posters
for the restaurants, and--
1114
00:44:27,403 --> 00:44:28,666
What was the name
for the company?
1115
00:44:28,796 --> 00:44:31,494
Musical Excitement with Russ.
1116
00:44:31,625 --> 00:44:33,192
I was at the Velvet
Turtle for a while,
1117
00:44:33,322 --> 00:44:36,412
so they made me
one of these signs.
1118
00:44:36,543 --> 00:44:40,721
He and his dad
were best friends.
1119
00:44:40,852 --> 00:44:43,637
They did everything together.
1120
00:44:43,768 --> 00:44:46,988
His dad was nuked in
the Nevada desert,
1121
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,426
in the Marine Corps in the '50s.
1122
00:44:50,557 --> 00:44:52,080
You mean the testing?
1123
00:44:52,211 --> 00:44:54,082
Mhm.
1124
00:44:54,213 --> 00:44:57,129
And he basically was
cooking internally.
1125
00:45:01,481 --> 00:45:06,268
After that, he
took his own life.
1126
00:45:06,399 --> 00:45:13,536
Because of how much pain he was
in from that nuclear testing.
1127
00:45:13,667 --> 00:45:15,451
I know he misses his dad a lot.
1128
00:45:15,582 --> 00:45:15,930
A lot.
1129
00:45:18,803 --> 00:45:20,543
You think your dad
would have been into it?
1130
00:45:20,674 --> 00:45:21,631
Oh, heck yeah.
1131
00:45:21,762 --> 00:45:22,720
Oh my god, yeah.
1132
00:45:22,850 --> 00:45:23,851
My dad would have loved this.
1133
00:45:23,982 --> 00:45:25,548
My mom would have loved this.
1134
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:26,680
Of course.
1135
00:45:26,811 --> 00:45:28,551
Oh, my goodness gracious, yes.
1136
00:45:28,682 --> 00:45:31,467
Yeah, they were always into
Halloween, and wherever I did,
1137
00:45:31,598 --> 00:45:33,600
and all the other little
stupid haunts I was doing.
1138
00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:35,036
Just, all the decorations.
1139
00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:35,776
Oh, yeah.
1140
00:45:35,907 --> 00:45:36,821
Yeah, yeah.
1141
00:45:36,951 --> 00:45:38,344
They would have loved it.
1142
00:45:38,474 --> 00:45:40,520
That would have been
a blast and a half.
1143
00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:42,087
Yeah, that would've
been great stuff.
1144
00:45:42,217 --> 00:45:42,565
Yeah.
1145
00:45:47,179 --> 00:45:48,920
What do you love about Donald?
1146
00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:52,358
Oh-- I love how passionate
he is about creating.
1147
00:45:52,488 --> 00:45:55,753
I mean, he's the most talented
person that I personally know.
1148
00:45:55,883 --> 00:45:57,885
I mean, outside of
his being passionate,
1149
00:45:58,016 --> 00:45:59,887
he's also the most loyal
person that I know.
1150
00:46:00,018 --> 00:46:02,498
I mean, that's in terms of,
yeah, he does like things
1151
00:46:02,629 --> 00:46:04,370
that he liked when he
was in sixth grade,
1152
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:05,763
but he also knows a majority of
the people he cared about when
1153
00:46:05,893 --> 00:46:07,286
he was in sixth grade.
1154
00:46:07,416 --> 00:46:08,504
And those are still--
they continue to be
1155
00:46:08,635 --> 00:46:10,463
his core group of friends.
1156
00:46:10,593 --> 00:46:12,378
La Madera Elementary School.
1157
00:46:12,508 --> 00:46:15,773
We were asked to participate in
the haunted house for the fall
1158
00:46:15,903 --> 00:46:16,730
carnival.
1159
00:46:16,861 --> 00:46:18,166
I was a dead army guy.
1160
00:46:18,297 --> 00:46:19,864
So they put us at
the end of the maze.
1161
00:46:19,994 --> 00:46:21,561
I would see the guys running
in, and at that point
1162
00:46:21,691 --> 00:46:23,476
I would pop out and scare
the hell out of them.
1163
00:46:23,606 --> 00:46:25,173
I wanted to scare everybody.
1164
00:46:25,304 --> 00:46:26,305
It felt powerful.
1165
00:46:26,435 --> 00:46:28,263
It felt very powerful.
1166
00:46:28,394 --> 00:46:30,526
Most of my childhood
involved some sort
1167
00:46:30,657 --> 00:46:32,964
of physical altercation
at least once a day,
1168
00:46:33,094 --> 00:46:35,009
to the point where my
friends wouldn't come over
1169
00:46:35,140 --> 00:46:36,358
to the house.
1170
00:46:36,489 --> 00:46:38,143
Donald wears
sunglasses all the time
1171
00:46:38,273 --> 00:46:42,843
because his pupils are 100%
dilated 100% of the time.
1172
00:46:42,974 --> 00:46:45,150
And he'd sleep all day,
and then he'd be up at night.
1173
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,241
And I-- and he would complain
that it was from headaches.
1174
00:46:49,371 --> 00:46:53,158
I took him to a really
special doctor over at UCI,
1175
00:46:53,288 --> 00:46:56,161
and he goes, well, he's
got dilated pupils.
1176
00:46:56,291 --> 00:46:59,425
Well, I already knew that.
1177
00:46:59,555 --> 00:47:02,384
There was nothing we
could do to fix it.
1178
00:47:02,515 --> 00:47:07,737
And he said it might
be head trauma, which,
1179
00:47:07,868 --> 00:47:10,088
the way his brothers used
to kind of beat up on him,
1180
00:47:10,218 --> 00:47:12,133
wouldn't surprise me.
1181
00:47:12,264 --> 00:47:16,094
Nate beat up on Daniel
when he was little,
1182
00:47:16,224 --> 00:47:17,965
and then when Donald
came along, Daniel
1183
00:47:18,096 --> 00:47:19,488
had somebody to beat up on.
1184
00:47:19,619 --> 00:47:21,708
But because there
was three of them,
1185
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:23,144
there had to be two against one.
1186
00:47:23,275 --> 00:47:26,104
And so Donald got to be the one.
1187
00:47:26,234 --> 00:47:28,758
I've hit him with numerous
things, but besides my hands--
1188
00:47:28,889 --> 00:47:30,238
who knows?
1189
00:47:30,369 --> 00:47:33,111
I mean, like I said,
bamboo, broomsticks.
1190
00:47:33,241 --> 00:47:34,852
We've had the cops called on us.
1191
00:47:34,982 --> 00:47:39,726
We've had-- we've had neighbors
yell over fences at us.
1192
00:47:39,857 --> 00:47:43,991
His brothers thought that
if they beat him up enough,
1193
00:47:44,122 --> 00:47:50,128
intimidated him enough, that
he would become like them.
1194
00:47:50,258 --> 00:47:52,434
And you're a Julson,
and you should be.
1195
00:47:52,565 --> 00:47:54,219
And so we're going
to make you tough.
1196
00:47:54,349 --> 00:47:56,351
And we're going to beat
you up until you are tough.
1197
00:47:56,482 --> 00:47:58,310
And when you're
tough, then you'll
1198
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,183
be skinny, and be like us.
1199
00:48:02,314 --> 00:48:03,881
I thought it would work, too.
1200
00:48:04,011 --> 00:48:05,839
I mean, I did it in other ways.
1201
00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:10,322
I would try humiliating
him, and embarrassing him.
1202
00:48:10,452 --> 00:48:11,714
That didn't work, either.
1203
00:48:11,845 --> 00:48:13,673
If I had my wish
come true for Donald,
1204
00:48:13,803 --> 00:48:17,982
it would be that he could
get into movie props again.
1205
00:48:18,112 --> 00:48:21,159
I was a professional prop
maker for about seven years,
1206
00:48:21,289 --> 00:48:23,988
and throughout that I worked on
several major motion pictures.
1207
00:48:24,118 --> 00:48:27,034
"Minority Report." we did all
the jetpacks, Identascans,
1208
00:48:27,165 --> 00:48:28,514
helmets.
1209
00:48:28,644 --> 00:48:29,602
The one that was
done in Transylvania.
1210
00:48:29,732 --> 00:48:30,516
The--
1211
00:48:30,646 --> 00:48:31,909
Oh, "Von Helson?"
1212
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:32,648
Yeah.
1213
00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:33,388
The weapons?
1214
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:35,216
Yeah.
1215
00:48:35,347 --> 00:48:38,132
I mean, the physical prop
making world left California,
1216
00:48:38,263 --> 00:48:40,004
with the exception
of the major studios.
1217
00:48:40,134 --> 00:48:44,834
Within four years, I was
lucky if I had two paying gigs
1218
00:48:44,965 --> 00:48:46,488
every six months.
1219
00:48:46,619 --> 00:48:49,056
My brother-- he always
kind of-- you know, like,
1220
00:48:49,187 --> 00:48:51,319
he would dress up and
scare kids for Halloween,
1221
00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:52,668
and stuff like that.
1222
00:48:52,799 --> 00:48:53,800
And he's like, man,
you gotta do it.
1223
00:48:53,931 --> 00:48:55,454
It's so fun.
1224
00:48:55,584 --> 00:48:58,022
And I remembered, you
know, doing it as a child,
1225
00:48:58,152 --> 00:49:00,850
and loving it so much.
1226
00:49:00,981 --> 00:49:04,332
It's strange on how, you
know, my brothers used
1227
00:49:04,463 --> 00:49:08,858
to terrorize me, and now we
terrorize everybody else.
1228
00:49:08,989 --> 00:49:12,384
It just got to a point where
we found this common ground,
1229
00:49:12,514 --> 00:49:15,039
and it's something that we
just both fell so in love with.
1230
00:49:15,169 --> 00:49:17,606
It just-- you know, it
was like planting a seed,
1231
00:49:17,737 --> 00:49:19,130
and then watching it grow.
1232
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:21,262
A problem with your
workmanship over here?
1233
00:49:21,393 --> 00:49:22,960
Yeah, I know it
will never be perfect.
1234
00:49:23,090 --> 00:49:24,439
Now, he's a perfectionist.
1235
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:26,093
I get the job done fair
enough, and then he
1236
00:49:26,224 --> 00:49:28,095
goes over and corrects it.
1237
00:49:28,226 --> 00:49:30,489
It's Donald's haunted house.
1238
00:49:30,619 --> 00:49:31,881
I mean, Daniel
says, this is what
1239
00:49:32,012 --> 00:49:33,666
I'm going to do,
but kind of like,
1240
00:49:33,796 --> 00:49:36,625
with Donald's
permission and approval.
1241
00:49:36,756 --> 00:49:39,150
You know, when we all work
together as a family, we can--
1242
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,848
we accomplish things
like the haunt.
1243
00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:42,892
We enjoy it.
1244
00:49:43,023 --> 00:49:44,285
It brings us all together.
1245
00:49:44,416 --> 00:49:46,461
Well, with the
exception of my wife.
1246
00:49:46,592 --> 00:49:48,115
I'm not participating
in the maze.
1247
00:49:48,246 --> 00:49:52,598
I'll still be up there,
with a glass of wine, and--
1248
00:49:52,728 --> 00:49:55,166
watching all my friends
do this for the last year
1249
00:49:55,296 --> 00:49:57,907
that we'll all be together.
1250
00:49:58,038 --> 00:49:59,561
We'll see.
1251
00:49:59,692 --> 00:50:01,128
We shall see.
1252
00:50:01,259 --> 00:50:03,043
There are some really
strong relationships,
1253
00:50:03,174 --> 00:50:04,610
and then there are
some relationships
1254
00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:06,177
that don't make it.
1255
00:50:06,307 --> 00:50:08,135
But, you know, that's
the nature of any kind
1256
00:50:08,266 --> 00:50:09,832
of creative endeavor.
1257
00:50:09,963 --> 00:50:11,051
You know, there are going
to be some hardships,
1258
00:50:11,182 --> 00:50:14,533
and some sacrifices on the way.
1259
00:50:14,663 --> 00:50:23,455
SINGER: Welcome to a
place where nightmares
1260
00:50:23,585 --> 00:50:28,329
are the best part of my day.
1261
00:50:46,913 --> 00:50:48,784
What does your wife
think of all this?
1262
00:50:48,915 --> 00:50:51,135
Well, I mean--
1263
00:50:51,265 --> 00:50:55,095
she-- she's used to it by
now, but I mean, it's--
1264
00:50:55,226 --> 00:50:59,708
she-- I had a skull for a
wedding ring, so that kind of--
1265
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:02,929
she knew what she
was getting into.
1266
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:07,977
Haunting is a very
all-consuming endeavor,
1267
00:51:08,108 --> 00:51:09,457
if you allow it to be.
1268
00:51:09,588 --> 00:51:11,546
If you're a partner
who does not like that,
1269
00:51:11,677 --> 00:51:13,940
that could be a real
challenge for a relationship.
1270
00:51:14,071 --> 00:51:16,769
Has this haunted house brought
you and Russ closer together,
1271
00:51:16,899 --> 00:51:19,119
or is it tough on
your relationship?
1272
00:51:19,250 --> 00:51:21,730
It's very tough
on our relationship.
1273
00:51:21,861 --> 00:51:25,560
I mean, your wife has gotta
be pretty understanding.
1274
00:51:25,691 --> 00:51:27,084
I'd rather not
talk about my wife.
1275
00:51:27,214 --> 00:51:30,870
She's actually not in
the picture anymore.
1276
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,700
But he's very supportive of
me, and without that support,
1277
00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:38,095
I wouldn't be able to
haunt the way I do.
1278
00:51:38,225 --> 00:51:41,054
Have you ever heard the
expression haunt widow?
1279
00:51:41,185 --> 00:51:42,360
Yes.
1280
00:51:42,490 --> 00:51:43,970
I am a haunt widower.
1281
00:51:44,101 --> 00:51:45,406
Absolutely.
1282
00:51:45,537 --> 00:51:48,931
Every October, I'm
a single parent.
1283
00:51:49,062 --> 00:51:50,759
When it came to
raising our daughter,
1284
00:51:50,890 --> 00:51:53,371
you know, I was getting her out
to school, and feeding the kid,
1285
00:51:53,501 --> 00:51:55,329
and cleaning the house.
1286
00:51:55,460 --> 00:51:56,852
And I would never see her.
1287
00:51:56,983 --> 00:51:59,855
She would be coming home
at 2:00 in the morning,
1288
00:51:59,986 --> 00:52:02,641
or, you know, I'd get up
for work and, you know,
1289
00:52:02,771 --> 00:52:04,382
she'd be snoozing away in bed.
1290
00:52:04,512 --> 00:52:06,949
Have you ever heard
the term haunt widow?
1291
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,474
No, but I'm probably
an excellent candidate.
1292
00:52:12,955 --> 00:52:14,000
Yeah.
1293
00:52:14,131 --> 00:52:15,871
It gets a little problematic.
1294
00:52:16,002 --> 00:52:19,397
You know, I-- want to explain to
her all these great ideas that
1295
00:52:19,527 --> 00:52:21,616
I come up with, and it's--
1296
00:52:21,747 --> 00:52:23,140
she shuts it down completely.
1297
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:24,967
Just doesn't want to
hear anything about it.
1298
00:52:25,098 --> 00:52:26,752
She doesn't want
anything to do with it.
1299
00:52:26,882 --> 00:52:29,624
Every opportunity to really
freak me out, he's on it.
1300
00:52:29,755 --> 00:52:31,060
Always around.
1301
00:52:31,191 --> 00:52:31,844
Year round.
1302
00:52:31,974 --> 00:52:32,671
All the time.
1303
00:52:32,801 --> 00:52:33,802
I can't help it.
1304
00:52:33,933 --> 00:52:37,458
Recently, I hid in the shower.
1305
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:40,157
And she went to the bathroom.
1306
00:52:40,287 --> 00:52:41,419
No.
1307
00:52:41,549 --> 00:52:42,159
We're not talking
about this one.
1308
00:52:42,289 --> 00:52:43,203
This one was--
1309
00:52:43,334 --> 00:52:44,117
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1310
00:52:44,248 --> 00:52:45,162
This is not-- no.
1311
00:52:45,292 --> 00:52:46,337
This is not happening.
1312
00:52:46,467 --> 00:52:47,207
No.
1313
00:52:47,338 --> 00:52:48,077
This was the best one.
1314
00:52:48,208 --> 00:52:48,643
Donald.
1315
00:52:48,774 --> 00:52:49,557
Ow!
1316
00:52:49,688 --> 00:52:51,168
Just let me say it.
1317
00:52:51,298 --> 00:52:54,910
So, she-- she sits
on the toilet.
1318
00:52:55,041 --> 00:52:55,824
This is ridiculous.
1319
00:52:55,955 --> 00:52:56,695
This is-- no.
1320
00:52:56,825 --> 00:52:58,175
And she starts peeing.
1321
00:52:58,305 --> 00:53:01,178
And at that point, I
pull my curtain out.
1322
00:53:01,308 --> 00:53:02,440
I go, ah!
1323
00:53:02,570 --> 00:53:03,963
And she did one
of those classics.
1324
00:53:04,093 --> 00:53:05,269
What the fuck?
1325
00:53:05,399 --> 00:53:07,096
Listing up her leg,
and everything.
1326
00:53:07,227 --> 00:53:10,317
And I could-- I could physically
see true fear in her eyes,
1327
00:53:10,448 --> 00:53:11,449
for the first time.
1328
00:53:11,579 --> 00:53:12,319
And I was so proud of myself.
1329
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:16,497
Yeah.
1330
00:53:16,628 --> 00:53:17,846
He let me get into it.
1331
00:53:17,977 --> 00:53:18,586
Yeah.
1332
00:53:18,717 --> 00:53:19,544
I had time.
1333
00:53:19,674 --> 00:53:21,328
Timing is everything.
1334
00:53:21,459 --> 00:53:23,635
I don't understand how you
can be so against something
1335
00:53:23,765 --> 00:53:24,766
that makes me so happy.
1336
00:53:24,897 --> 00:53:25,680
Because--
1337
00:53:25,811 --> 00:53:27,291
No, I'm not against it.
1338
00:53:27,421 --> 00:53:28,857
There's very little things
that make me this happy.
1339
00:53:28,988 --> 00:53:30,642
I think that moderation
is important in life.
1340
00:53:30,772 --> 00:53:34,515
You know, I do love my wife,
but I love Halloween, too.
1341
00:53:34,646 --> 00:53:40,434
And I-- I need to find a way to
make them not hate each other.
1342
00:53:40,565 --> 00:53:42,436
Because Halloween's
starting to hate Jamie, too.
1343
00:53:42,567 --> 00:53:43,524
I'll tell you that much.
1344
00:53:43,655 --> 00:53:45,961
I would hate to see it end.
1345
00:53:46,092 --> 00:53:47,659
I don't really want him to go.
1346
00:53:47,789 --> 00:53:50,357
I think that's a
little out of his--
1347
00:53:50,488 --> 00:53:53,665
not out of his class,
but it's just more--
1348
00:53:53,795 --> 00:53:56,233
it would cause more problems.
1349
00:53:56,363 --> 00:53:57,843
My wife just sent me a text.
1350
00:53:57,973 --> 00:54:01,107
I'm over it, this
Halloween stupid bullshit.
1351
00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:03,022
If you're not leaving
to come home right now,
1352
00:54:03,152 --> 00:54:03,979
don't come home tonight.
1353
00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:17,515
My parents never really
understood my haunting.
1354
00:54:17,645 --> 00:54:21,214
I remember one time scaring my
mom, and it really upset her.
1355
00:54:21,345 --> 00:54:24,043
And she, like, lashed out at
me, and she screamed at me.
1356
00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:26,698
And it's like, don't
ever-- don't ever do that.
1357
00:54:26,828 --> 00:54:28,047
You know?
1358
00:54:28,177 --> 00:54:29,701
The real bad one
was when I finally--
1359
00:54:29,831 --> 00:54:33,052
I got onto Knotts Streets,
which was a big deal.
1360
00:54:33,182 --> 00:54:34,053
I was so excited.
1361
00:54:34,183 --> 00:54:34,923
Who do you call?
1362
00:54:35,054 --> 00:54:36,577
You call your mom.
1363
00:54:36,708 --> 00:54:38,797
And then my mother's like,
you're a streetwalker?
1364
00:54:38,927 --> 00:54:40,973
I was like, no.
1365
00:54:41,103 --> 00:54:42,583
It's ghost town streets.
1366
00:54:42,714 --> 00:54:44,281
It's like-- it's like, the
coolest thing in Knotts,
1367
00:54:44,411 --> 00:54:45,804
and everything.
1368
00:54:45,934 --> 00:54:47,458
And she was like,
you're a streetwalker.
1369
00:54:47,588 --> 00:54:50,069
And then for the
next whatever years,
1370
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:51,331
that's what she always said.
1371
00:54:51,462 --> 00:54:52,463
You know, oh, it's October.
1372
00:54:52,593 --> 00:54:53,899
You're a streetwalker.
1373
00:54:54,029 --> 00:54:55,422
You're a streetwalker.
1374
00:54:55,553 --> 00:54:56,771
It wasn't her thing,
and I understand that.
1375
00:54:56,902 --> 00:54:59,296
It's-- it's not
everyone's thing.
1376
00:55:06,346 --> 00:55:07,216
OK.
1377
00:55:07,347 --> 00:55:09,131
[shouting]
1378
00:55:11,699 --> 00:55:12,526
Let's go.
1379
00:55:12,657 --> 00:55:13,135
It's gonna touch me.
1380
00:55:13,266 --> 00:55:13,832
No.
1381
00:55:13,962 --> 00:55:15,094
Let's go.
1382
00:55:15,224 --> 00:55:15,703
Stop!
1383
00:55:15,834 --> 00:55:16,051
Stop!
1384
00:55:20,491 --> 00:55:22,841
Please don't throw up.
1385
00:55:22,971 --> 00:55:25,713
[screaming]
1386
00:55:30,675 --> 00:55:34,418
Let's go, let's go.
1387
00:55:34,548 --> 00:55:35,332
I have a question.
1388
00:55:35,462 --> 00:55:37,246
Did you have fun?
1389
00:55:37,377 --> 00:55:39,727
Oh, yeah.
1390
00:55:39,858 --> 00:55:42,251
Yeah.
1391
00:55:42,382 --> 00:55:44,906
It just seems crazy to
me that someone's purposely
1392
00:55:45,037 --> 00:55:48,388
scaring themselves, and
paying money to do it.
1393
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:51,696
When I am scared, I
get defensive myself.
1394
00:55:51,826 --> 00:55:55,090
And in some instances
I become violent.
1395
00:55:55,221 --> 00:55:59,094
As a monster, we know
the fight or flight.
1396
00:55:59,225 --> 00:56:00,835
[screaming]
1397
00:56:02,533 --> 00:56:05,318
And a lot of times, you
scare somebody, they do this.
1398
00:56:05,449 --> 00:56:07,189
Are you going
trick or treating?
1399
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,669
No.
1400
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,757
Whoa.
1401
00:56:09,888 --> 00:56:11,629
Be safe, stay on their face.
1402
00:56:11,759 --> 00:56:13,761
You'll know when someone's going
to hit you, most of the time.
1403
00:56:13,892 --> 00:56:14,806
Get out of the way.
1404
00:56:14,936 --> 00:56:16,677
They push back, or they punch.
1405
00:56:16,808 --> 00:56:18,375
Those kind of things
you have to accept,
1406
00:56:18,505 --> 00:56:19,376
if you're going to haunt.
1407
00:56:19,506 --> 00:56:20,377
Enjoy the night tonight.
1408
00:56:20,507 --> 00:56:22,291
Don't get too drunk.
1409
00:56:22,422 --> 00:56:24,772
Don't hit the monsters
or the zombies.
1410
00:56:24,903 --> 00:56:26,121
Have a great time.
1411
00:56:26,252 --> 00:56:27,645
The best reactions
you can get--
1412
00:56:27,775 --> 00:56:29,690
oh, I like the ones
when they drop.
1413
00:56:29,821 --> 00:56:31,823
Just-- as if they have no knees.
1414
00:56:31,953 --> 00:56:32,519
Just, right down.
1415
00:56:35,914 --> 00:56:38,569
One of the ladies dropped to
her knees and started crawling,
1416
00:56:38,699 --> 00:56:39,744
and saying, hold up, y'all.
1417
00:56:39,874 --> 00:56:41,833
I pissed my pants a little bit.
1418
00:56:41,963 --> 00:56:43,312
She dropped down
onto the ground.
1419
00:56:43,443 --> 00:56:45,010
She fell backwards.
1420
00:56:45,140 --> 00:56:47,665
Crawled out of the room
screaming, I want to live.
1421
00:56:47,795 --> 00:56:49,406
And started
hysterically crying,
1422
00:56:49,536 --> 00:56:51,103
and clutching her knees.
1423
00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:52,626
It's always usually the
big guys that come in there
1424
00:56:52,757 --> 00:56:54,019
and freaking out,
and windmilling,
1425
00:56:54,149 --> 00:56:55,499
and throwing their arms around.
1426
00:56:55,629 --> 00:56:57,849
I'm getting close to
the end of the maze,
1427
00:56:57,979 --> 00:57:01,722
and all of a sudden, out of
nowhere, out pops a monster.
1428
00:57:01,853 --> 00:57:04,159
And I literally, with
the back of my hand,
1429
00:57:04,290 --> 00:57:07,685
smack the monster right
square in the face.
1430
00:57:07,815 --> 00:57:11,950
The zombie comes
up to me and says,
1431
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,474
sir, please don't
hit the monster.
1432
00:57:14,605 --> 00:57:18,043
Not only is the zombie
a tiny little person,
1433
00:57:18,173 --> 00:57:22,221
but it's also a little girl
that's probably 15 years old.
1434
00:57:22,351 --> 00:57:25,398
You know, not my finest
moment, I can tell you.
1435
00:57:25,529 --> 00:57:27,792
But when somebody takes their
fingers, curls their hand,
1436
00:57:27,922 --> 00:57:29,881
and goes boom, boom,
boom, punches you-- no.
1437
00:57:30,011 --> 00:57:32,361
That's not acceptable.
1438
00:57:32,492 --> 00:57:33,362
But it happens.
1439
00:57:33,493 --> 00:57:34,451
It was a great maze.
1440
00:57:34,581 --> 00:57:36,235
It was called The underground.
1441
00:57:36,365 --> 00:57:38,455
And had some
wonderful spots in it.
1442
00:57:38,585 --> 00:57:40,021
But not my spot.
1443
00:57:40,152 --> 00:57:41,893
My spot was people would
come around the corner
1444
00:57:42,023 --> 00:57:43,460
and see me, and just punch me.
1445
00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:45,287
I never knew what she
was going to come home,
1446
00:57:45,418 --> 00:57:47,028
you know, in what condition
she was going to come home.
1447
00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:49,204
Sometimes she'd come home,
you know, all bruised up.
1448
00:57:49,335 --> 00:57:50,945
Over the last 25
years, you know,
1449
00:57:51,076 --> 00:57:52,556
seeing the evolution
of just, you know,
1450
00:57:52,686 --> 00:57:54,732
how she was costuming,
and how much armor
1451
00:57:54,862 --> 00:57:57,082
she was piling on,
gradually, every year,
1452
00:57:57,212 --> 00:58:01,434
adding pieces of like, you
know, skateboard or BMX armor.
1453
00:58:01,565 --> 00:58:02,696
Boom, boom, boom.
1454
00:58:02,827 --> 00:58:04,393
Punched me three
times right here.
1455
00:58:04,524 --> 00:58:05,830
Before I could even go--
1456
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,919
put my arms up and say stop.
1457
00:58:08,049 --> 00:58:10,138
I got, one time,
three guys choking me.
1458
00:58:10,269 --> 00:58:12,271
I had-- I know.
1459
00:58:12,401 --> 00:58:13,707
How did that even happen?
1460
00:58:13,838 --> 00:58:16,536
Just-- people having
too much to drink.
1461
00:58:16,667 --> 00:58:18,364
He grabbed my
shoulders, pushed down,
1462
00:58:18,495 --> 00:58:20,975
he jabbed his knee into my
back, and drove us both down
1463
00:58:21,106 --> 00:58:21,933
to the ground.
1464
00:58:22,063 --> 00:58:22,847
Rode me to the ground.
1465
00:58:22,977 --> 00:58:24,196
Wouldn't get off me.
1466
00:58:24,326 --> 00:58:25,806
That was-- that was the worst.
1467
00:58:25,937 --> 00:58:27,329
He injured my back.
1468
00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:30,028
That took me out of
full time haunting.
1469
00:58:30,158 --> 00:58:32,552
After I got hurt, I came home.
1470
00:58:32,683 --> 00:58:34,598
I didn't even tell
him how bad it was.
1471
00:58:34,728 --> 00:58:36,295
If I would have
told him how bad it
1472
00:58:36,425 --> 00:58:38,253
was, he would have been
like, you're not doing that.
1473
00:58:38,384 --> 00:58:39,341
You can't go back.
1474
00:58:39,472 --> 00:58:41,430
Well, I-- we would discuss it.
1475
00:58:41,561 --> 00:58:43,345
And usually the
discussion would be,
1476
00:58:43,476 --> 00:58:45,957
well, I'm going to add another
piece of armor to my costume.
1477
00:58:46,087 --> 00:58:47,872
You know, and that should do it.
1478
00:58:48,002 --> 00:58:50,352
Because of that injury,
I'm in pain all the time.
1479
00:58:50,483 --> 00:58:53,530
Surgery's on the
horizon, you know?
1480
00:58:53,660 --> 00:58:55,532
It's inevitable at this point.
1481
00:58:55,662 --> 00:58:58,273
Even though I was hurt,
I was hurt seriously--
1482
00:58:58,404 --> 00:58:59,536
I still am hurt--
1483
00:58:59,666 --> 00:59:01,538
I went back the
next day to haunt.
1484
00:59:01,668 --> 00:59:03,583
Because a haunt monster haunts.
1485
00:59:15,377 --> 00:59:18,859
So this here is
part of the morgue.
1486
00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:22,384
The slabs open up.
1487
00:59:22,515 --> 00:59:26,432
So the audience would be
placed on this, then secured
1488
00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:28,303
back inside.
1489
00:59:28,434 --> 00:59:29,435
Refrigerated.
1490
00:59:29,566 --> 00:59:31,480
Freezing cold inside.
1491
00:59:31,611 --> 00:59:32,786
Electrified.
1492
00:59:32,917 --> 00:59:34,614
They'd actually be shocked.
1493
00:59:34,745 --> 00:59:36,747
So whenever they try to get
out, they would be shocked.
1494
00:59:36,877 --> 00:59:40,185
The slabs raise up on these
hydraulics, about 12 feet up
1495
00:59:40,315 --> 00:59:43,318
high, tilted down at a severe
angle, and the bottom drops.
1496
00:59:43,449 --> 00:59:47,453
And boom, they slide down a
large apparatus into a funnel,
1497
00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:51,500
crashing into this funnel slide,
where only one opening was
1498
00:59:51,631 --> 00:59:54,112
there for everybody to
scramble around, trying to find
1499
00:59:54,242 --> 00:59:55,679
their one opening to escape.
1500
00:59:55,809 --> 00:59:58,769
And the ride would begin.
1501
00:59:58,899 --> 01:00:06,385
Russ plant about six months
of very expensive and diligent
1502
01:00:06,515 --> 01:00:09,083
labor into
constructing the haunt.
1503
01:00:09,214 --> 01:00:13,261
And it was looking really
good, and pretty doggone
1504
01:00:13,392 --> 01:00:15,307
close to complete.
1505
01:00:15,437 --> 01:00:17,526
And then it all fell apart.
1506
01:00:17,657 --> 01:00:18,789
Just got the word.
1507
01:00:18,919 --> 01:00:21,530
We're tearing the haunt down.
1508
01:00:21,661 --> 01:00:25,796
I did get one letter
from a neighbor.
1509
01:00:25,926 --> 01:00:28,189
One of our neighbors
called the county inspector,
1510
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:34,326
and he came out, took a look
at it, saw the YouTube videos,
1511
01:00:34,456 --> 01:00:36,807
and, um--
1512
01:00:36,937 --> 01:00:40,811
Accusing me of bringing in
mentally unbalanced people.
1513
01:00:40,941 --> 01:00:42,769
It was the videos that
really set people off.
1514
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:45,467
A lot of folks were thinking,
OK, a haunted house.
1515
01:00:45,598 --> 01:00:47,295
OK, boo, boo, scare, scare.
1516
01:00:47,426 --> 01:00:51,560
And then the neighbors saw
the actual videos on YouTube.
1517
01:00:51,691 --> 01:00:55,434
From the county,
I got this warning
1518
01:00:55,564 --> 01:00:58,829
that it would be
$1,000 per day fine
1519
01:00:58,959 --> 01:01:01,788
until the violation,
the haunt, was
1520
01:01:01,919 --> 01:01:06,880
removed, for a total
of $50,000 per year.
1521
01:01:07,011 --> 01:01:08,926
There might have been
more fees after that.
1522
01:01:09,056 --> 01:01:11,058
We already had a permit
to do what we were doing,
1523
01:01:11,189 --> 01:01:14,061
but they wanted an
additional permit
1524
01:01:14,192 --> 01:01:17,412
after they found out the
extreme nature of the haunt.
1525
01:01:17,543 --> 01:01:21,460
You can do it, but it's going
to be another 35 to 50 to apply,
1526
01:01:21,590 --> 01:01:24,724
and we can't guarantee that
we're going to pick it up.
1527
01:01:24,855 --> 01:01:26,508
So obviously the city
wasn't interested.
1528
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:28,685
It wasn't worth, after
putting all that money into it
1529
01:01:28,815 --> 01:01:32,689
already, to chance
another $50,000,
1530
01:01:32,819 --> 01:01:35,343
and to see if maybe
it might work.
1531
01:01:35,474 --> 01:01:36,954
It would have put us on the map.
1532
01:01:37,084 --> 01:01:38,042
We're still gonna do it.
1533
01:01:38,172 --> 01:01:41,306
Just a smaller scale.
1534
01:01:41,436 --> 01:01:43,525
How much money did
you put into this?
1535
01:01:43,656 --> 01:01:44,265
Here?
1536
01:01:44,396 --> 01:01:55,624
About $100,000.
1537
01:01:55,755 --> 01:02:00,020
It's a lot more work to move
it back than to move it there.
1538
01:02:04,938 --> 01:02:08,159
It's kind of disheartening,
taking apart your dream.
1539
01:02:22,303 --> 01:02:30,921
The
1540
01:02:31,051 --> 01:02:36,753
When it's time to change, to
transform into my monster self,
1541
01:02:36,883 --> 01:02:38,537
I get into my costume.
1542
01:02:38,667 --> 01:02:40,191
Usually the smell
of the costume,
1543
01:02:40,321 --> 01:02:43,760
even if it's freshly
washed, starts bringing back
1544
01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:46,110
memories of different
haunts that I'd done,
1545
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,241
different things I've done.
1546
01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:54,988
Going down deep inside
my mind, thinking
1547
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,513
about who I'm becoming,
where I'm going to go to
1548
01:02:58,644 --> 01:03:01,081
with the makeup, with the mask.
1549
01:03:01,212 --> 01:03:01,865
With the costume.
1550
01:03:08,219 --> 01:03:10,787
Once I have my
makeup fully applied,
1551
01:03:10,917 --> 01:03:13,790
I go over to the mirror, and
I just look at the mirror.
1552
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,619
You see that other face
looking back at you.
1553
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:19,926
You move your eyes around,
you move your mouth.
1554
01:03:20,057 --> 01:03:22,494
I see the reaction that's
looking back at me.
1555
01:03:22,624 --> 01:03:26,628
As I become the monster, I
start letting my true self out,
1556
01:03:26,759 --> 01:03:28,413
and I come somewhere
in the middle,
1557
01:03:28,543 --> 01:03:30,763
and I make a connection.
1558
01:03:30,894 --> 01:03:34,288
I'm that monster then, and
there's no turning back.
1559
01:03:34,419 --> 01:03:36,638
[snarling]
1560
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,426
[laughter]
1561
01:03:43,297 --> 01:03:48,215
I could just go home, get in
the car, drive, and just hope--
1562
01:03:48,346 --> 01:03:51,218
the only time I hope to
get stuck in LA traffic.
1563
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:52,132
Ha ha ha!
1564
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,966
I would love to be able to
do this on a daily basis.
1565
01:04:00,097 --> 01:04:02,490
I don't think at this point
in my life I physically
1566
01:04:02,621 --> 01:04:04,057
could do it every single day.
1567
01:04:04,188 --> 01:04:05,711
I can't do two months anymore.
1568
01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:07,408
I can do a couple of
days here and there.
1569
01:04:07,539 --> 01:04:08,932
That's about it.
1570
01:04:09,062 --> 01:04:11,238
I'm just going to put
this up on the wall.
1571
01:04:11,369 --> 01:04:14,459
It's kind of amazing, the
sounds, the way you breathe,
1572
01:04:14,589 --> 01:04:15,503
the way you move.
1573
01:04:15,634 --> 01:04:16,809
It all comes from my pain.
1574
01:04:20,595 --> 01:04:21,858
Where does it come from?
1575
01:04:21,988 --> 01:04:23,381
It just comes from-- yeah.
1576
01:04:23,511 --> 01:04:24,861
A lot of it does come
from pain, though,
1577
01:04:24,991 --> 01:04:26,950
because I'm in pain a lot.
1578
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,780
So, I don't know how long, or
how much longer I can do it.
1579
01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:43,096
I think the future of haunting
is definitely taking a turn.
1580
01:04:43,227 --> 01:04:45,882
I don't think all haunts
are going to get more extreme.
1581
01:04:46,012 --> 01:04:47,884
Some will stay very traditional.
1582
01:04:48,014 --> 01:04:49,494
Others might stray off.
1583
01:04:49,624 --> 01:04:51,322
And it takes more and
more to scare people.
1584
01:04:51,452 --> 01:04:55,065
And once you start something
like this, how do you turn back
1585
01:04:55,195 --> 01:04:56,893
and say, oh, no, didn't happen.
1586
01:04:57,023 --> 01:04:57,894
Close your eyes.
1587
01:04:58,024 --> 01:04:58,807
Let's go back to the old--
1588
01:04:58,938 --> 01:05:00,374
the old boo style.
1589
01:05:00,505 --> 01:05:01,201
That extreme stuff?
1590
01:05:01,332 --> 01:05:02,246
No, no, no.
1591
01:05:02,376 --> 01:05:03,334
That was your imagination.
1592
01:05:03,464 --> 01:05:04,117
It never really took place.
1593
01:05:04,248 --> 01:05:05,597
Can't do it.
1594
01:05:05,727 --> 01:05:07,207
So we let the genie
out of the bottle.
1595
01:05:07,338 --> 01:05:08,774
It's gonna be tough to get
it back in there again.
1596
01:05:08,905 --> 01:05:11,081
I feel like the whole
interaction aspect,
1597
01:05:11,211 --> 01:05:12,996
with the ctors, and
with the storyline
1598
01:05:13,126 --> 01:05:14,519
is where the future will go.
1599
01:05:14,649 --> 01:05:16,695
The idea of having
a storyline, I think,
1600
01:05:16,825 --> 01:05:18,044
is really cool.
1601
01:05:18,175 --> 01:05:19,176
And I like the
idea of that, and I
1602
01:05:19,306 --> 01:05:21,395
hope more places will do that.
1603
01:05:21,526 --> 01:05:24,616
Delusion, the haunted
play, does exactly that.
1604
01:05:24,746 --> 01:05:28,054
They start off with
a story, and you go--
1605
01:05:28,185 --> 01:05:32,058
you become part of the story,
and things happen around you.
1606
01:05:32,189 --> 01:05:33,799
Things happen to you.
1607
01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:36,019
My character
had kinetic power,
1608
01:05:36,149 --> 01:05:38,064
and, you know, I would
tell the audience that you
1609
01:05:38,195 --> 01:05:39,544
have these powers, too.
1610
01:05:39,674 --> 01:05:41,198
Everybody, put your
hand out together.
1611
01:05:41,328 --> 01:05:43,069
Everybody would reach out,
they would be shaking,
1612
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,506
and some people were into it
so much, they' be like, yeah,
1613
01:05:45,637 --> 01:05:46,943
I have powers.
1614
01:05:47,073 --> 01:05:48,422
In my ears!
1615
01:05:48,553 --> 01:05:49,946
[screaming]
1616
01:05:50,076 --> 01:05:51,599
May they rip you open!
1617
01:05:51,730 --> 01:05:53,558
Narrator would, like,
reach towards the door,
1618
01:05:53,688 --> 01:05:55,690
and then telekinetically
open the door.
1619
01:05:55,821 --> 01:05:57,431
And then you'd see
the grandmother.
1620
01:05:57,562 --> 01:06:01,044
So this, you know, poor person
has to walk down the hall,
1621
01:06:01,174 --> 01:06:05,744
and as soon as they cross the
threshold into the bathroom,
1622
01:06:05,874 --> 01:06:09,574
I sneak out from a corner, and I
slam the door behind the person
1623
01:06:09,704 --> 01:06:10,967
so they can't escape.
1624
01:06:11,097 --> 01:06:12,446
So when they turn
around, they're
1625
01:06:12,577 --> 01:06:14,535
face to face with
this psychotic kid.
1626
01:06:14,666 --> 01:06:16,407
Your friend is now gone.
1627
01:06:16,537 --> 01:06:18,017
You don't know what the hell
is going on with that person.
1628
01:06:18,148 --> 01:06:19,671
And all of a sudden,
from the ceiling
1629
01:06:19,801 --> 01:06:25,024
drops this other minion,
crazy, demonic creature.
1630
01:06:25,155 --> 01:06:26,983
Meanwhile, the person
trapped in the bathroom,
1631
01:06:27,113 --> 01:06:28,680
they're hearing their
friends screaming.
1632
01:06:28,810 --> 01:06:30,769
People would say, what's
happening to my friends?
1633
01:06:30,899 --> 01:06:32,814
It sounds like
they're being murdered.
1634
01:06:32,945 --> 01:06:36,209
You're interactive, yet
you're getting the scares, too.
1635
01:06:36,340 --> 01:06:38,211
And I think it draws
to a broader audience.
1636
01:06:38,342 --> 01:06:39,604
I'm actually a
little concerned
1637
01:06:39,734 --> 01:06:40,953
for the future of haunts.
1638
01:06:41,084 --> 01:06:42,433
I think that everything
is progressively
1639
01:06:42,563 --> 01:06:45,697
going to continue to get
more extreme and worse,
1640
01:06:45,827 --> 01:06:47,351
until eventually
somebody gets killed.
1641
01:06:47,481 --> 01:06:49,005
And then we're all
going to get slapped
1642
01:06:49,135 --> 01:06:51,268
with legislation that
will shut most of us
1643
01:06:51,398 --> 01:06:54,619
lower level haunters down.
1644
01:06:54,749 --> 01:06:58,318
At Hazy Meadow Ranch we had
these rooms completely built.
1645
01:06:58,449 --> 01:06:59,841
So then once they
shut us down, we
1646
01:06:59,972 --> 01:07:01,626
had to bring it all back here.
1647
01:07:01,756 --> 01:07:05,021
So what you're seeing, of
course, is just in disarray.
1648
01:07:05,151 --> 01:07:08,241
We're back to the beginning,
and rebuilding in the backyard,
1649
01:07:08,372 --> 01:07:10,156
and starting all over again.
1650
01:07:30,307 --> 01:07:31,525
Compressors are a hassle.
1651
01:07:31,656 --> 01:07:33,005
They're always breaking down.
1652
01:07:33,136 --> 01:07:34,659
Always breaking down.
1653
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:37,053
[laughter]
1654
01:07:41,666 --> 01:07:44,277
We got rid of
the teenage actors.
1655
01:07:44,408 --> 01:07:50,022
One of our actors was, uh--
1656
01:07:50,153 --> 01:07:52,546
doing some inappropriate
things, with--
1657
01:07:52,677 --> 01:07:55,593
you know, hitting on-- you
know, with minors, and stuff.
1658
01:07:55,723 --> 01:08:04,602
He was sending explicit videos
and photos, and everything else
1659
01:08:04,732 --> 01:08:05,951
you could imagine.
1660
01:08:06,082 --> 01:08:07,605
Crazy.
1661
01:08:07,735 --> 01:08:13,915
And we found out that he
was giving drugs and alcohol
1662
01:08:14,046 --> 01:08:18,790
to our underage female
actor back here.
1663
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:23,099
And doing, also,
inappropriate stuff with her.
1664
01:08:23,229 --> 01:08:27,103
He says the fame went to his
head, but that's bullshit.
1665
01:08:27,233 --> 01:08:28,191
That's no excuse.
1666
01:08:28,321 --> 01:08:29,888
You know, that's just bullshit.
1667
01:08:30,018 --> 01:08:33,109
At the same time, the people
that wanted to be actors
1668
01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:34,893
were more military.
1669
01:08:35,023 --> 01:08:37,591
There's a documentary, a
BBC documentary about Gitmo,
1670
01:08:37,722 --> 01:08:41,117
and it was a real leftist
kind of a look at it.
1671
01:08:41,247 --> 01:08:43,206
It was a look to where
how horrible it was,
1672
01:08:43,336 --> 01:08:44,555
was what it was, right?
1673
01:08:44,685 --> 01:08:46,122
But it was
interesting, because I
1674
01:08:46,252 --> 01:08:49,255
wanted to see if it
was anything like us.
1675
01:08:49,386 --> 01:08:51,562
These aren't all boy scouts.
1676
01:08:51,692 --> 01:08:53,433
You should see this
big, giant guy, man.
1677
01:08:53,564 --> 01:08:57,829
And he was part of, like, all
the skinhead stuff, and all
1678
01:08:57,959 --> 01:08:59,309
that junk, you know?
1679
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,441
But he told me-- he
came clean and told me--
1680
01:09:01,572 --> 01:09:03,182
he was in jail, like,
a whole lot of times.
1681
01:09:03,313 --> 01:09:04,923
So I'm cool with that.
1682
01:09:05,053 --> 01:09:07,143
The other tattooed guy
out, he's got a felon, too.
1683
01:09:07,273 --> 01:09:08,579
Hitting a cop.
1684
01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:10,276
So he came clean,
told us, you know?
1685
01:09:10,407 --> 01:09:12,148
We'll check it, we'll
check the background on it,
1686
01:09:12,278 --> 01:09:12,887
and he'll be fine.
1687
01:09:15,499 --> 01:09:16,500
What are they doing?
1688
01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:18,066
This is what we always do.
1689
01:09:18,197 --> 01:09:19,155
We're like, did you
see what the neighbors
1690
01:09:19,285 --> 01:09:20,330
are doing across the street?
1691
01:09:24,725 --> 01:09:27,163
Are you ready?
1692
01:09:27,293 --> 01:09:28,251
Works.
1693
01:09:28,381 --> 01:09:29,861
Up here, cause this is--
1694
01:09:34,648 --> 01:09:35,475
Steve.
1695
01:09:35,606 --> 01:09:36,433
Here's what you do.
1696
01:09:36,563 --> 01:09:37,434
Grab it.
1697
01:09:37,564 --> 01:09:39,131
Give me the thingy.
1698
01:09:39,262 --> 01:09:40,480
I'm not gonna-- no!
1699
01:09:40,611 --> 01:09:41,873
Because you're
gonna break by bit.
1700
01:09:42,003 --> 01:09:43,179
I'm not gonna break your bit.
1701
01:09:43,309 --> 01:09:44,615
You're gonna break my bit.
1702
01:09:44,745 --> 01:09:45,224
Hey.
1703
01:09:45,355 --> 01:09:45,964
Relax.
1704
01:09:46,094 --> 01:09:46,573
Calm down.
1705
01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:54,059
[laughter]
1706
01:09:59,282 --> 01:10:01,066
There's totally gonna
be a fetus down here.
1707
01:10:01,197 --> 01:10:02,502
Rob, have you seen a fetus?
1708
01:10:10,118 --> 01:10:13,513
I am the spider queen.
1709
01:10:13,644 --> 01:10:16,516
Welcome to Nightmare
on Loganberry.
1710
01:10:16,647 --> 01:10:18,431
[screaming]
1711
01:10:26,613 --> 01:10:28,441
Are you guys going
to the haunted house?
1712
01:10:28,572 --> 01:10:29,225
Yeah.
1713
01:10:29,355 --> 01:10:30,704
I'm scared.
1714
01:10:30,835 --> 01:10:31,444
You are?
1715
01:10:31,575 --> 01:10:32,445
I'm scared.
1716
01:10:32,576 --> 01:10:33,403
I'm not.
1717
01:10:33,533 --> 01:10:34,099
Me, either.
1718
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:34,969
I laugh.
1719
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:36,841
[inaudible].
1720
01:10:36,971 --> 01:10:38,190
[screaming]
1721
01:10:39,670 --> 01:10:41,846
[screaming]
1722
01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:48,766
I've, like, never
screamed so much.
1723
01:10:48,896 --> 01:10:51,247
[screaming]
1724
01:10:51,377 --> 01:10:52,117
It was awesome.
1725
01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:53,901
It was really fun.
1726
01:10:54,032 --> 01:10:54,859
Oh my god.
1727
01:10:54,989 --> 01:10:56,208
That was really good.
1728
01:10:56,339 --> 01:10:57,514
That was better
than Not Scary Farm.
1729
01:10:57,644 --> 01:10:59,167
That was better
than Not Scary Farm.
1730
01:10:59,298 --> 01:11:00,038
You get scared in there,
but after you do it,
1731
01:11:00,168 --> 01:11:01,909
you feel like a man.
1732
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,869
When I'm on the balcony and
I'm looking down at my haunt,
1733
01:11:04,999 --> 01:11:08,786
and seeing people enjoy
it, I feel a lot of pride.
1734
01:11:08,916 --> 01:11:10,222
[screaming]
1735
01:11:10,353 --> 01:11:12,180
Why can't I do this every day?
1736
01:11:12,311 --> 01:11:14,008
I am celebrating
tonight, because tomorrow
1737
01:11:14,139 --> 01:11:16,489
is November 1st.
1738
01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:18,622
We get to tear all of
this down, and then
1739
01:11:18,752 --> 01:11:21,364
focus on Thanksgiving, and
Christmas, and-- you know,
1740
01:11:21,494 --> 01:11:23,453
we don't have to talk about
Halloween for at least
1741
01:11:23,583 --> 01:11:24,367
another six months.
1742
01:11:29,110 --> 01:11:31,504
I'm doing this haunt every
weekend because I'm selfish.
1743
01:11:31,635 --> 01:11:33,854
I'm a selfish,
selfish, selfish guy.
1744
01:11:33,985 --> 01:11:36,292
And I don't want to do
just 15 more seasons.
1745
01:11:36,422 --> 01:11:40,121
I want a season every weekend.
1746
01:11:40,252 --> 01:11:41,949
Christina from Kuwait.
1747
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,604
Are there any haunts
out there at all?
1748
01:11:44,735 --> 01:11:46,302
Nothing here in Kuwait.
1749
01:11:46,432 --> 01:11:49,130
They don't celebrate Halloween,
so it really does suck.
1750
01:11:49,261 --> 01:11:51,350
A lot of my friends think
I'm crazy for traveling
1751
01:11:51,481 --> 01:11:54,658
19 hours just to go
to one haunted house.
1752
01:11:54,788 --> 01:11:57,487
I have honestly
forgotten every reason
1753
01:11:57,617 --> 01:12:00,664
that I may have thought this
was a good idea at this time.
1754
01:12:00,794 --> 01:12:02,883
I'm trying to accomplish
some fears that I have.
1755
01:12:03,014 --> 01:12:04,363
I'm ready.
1756
01:12:04,494 --> 01:12:05,843
Got my dog food, and
everything ready to go.
1757
01:12:05,973 --> 01:12:07,671
Found out about McKamey Manor.
1758
01:12:07,801 --> 01:12:11,152
Just came across the website,
and emailed Russ about it.
1759
01:12:11,283 --> 01:12:14,199
And then he put us on the
list, and it's been a year now.
1760
01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:17,855
And I honestly didn't even
think this was going to happen.
1761
01:12:17,985 --> 01:12:20,031
I want to
experience real fear.
1762
01:12:20,161 --> 01:12:21,554
I'm here because
of this asshole.
1763
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:26,298
And I'm terrified.
1764
01:12:26,429 --> 01:12:29,301
I might have to go see a
doctor after this is all done.
1765
01:12:29,432 --> 01:12:30,781
I can't even
describe the feeling
1766
01:12:30,911 --> 01:12:33,044
that I'm having right now.
1767
01:12:33,174 --> 01:12:35,220
It's like, the most
anxious, terrified feeling
1768
01:12:35,351 --> 01:12:37,091
I've ever felt. I've
never felt this before.
1769
01:12:37,222 --> 01:12:38,963
It's like the
feeling I can imagine
1770
01:12:39,093 --> 01:12:41,705
you're going to get, like, when
you know you're going to die.
1771
01:12:41,835 --> 01:12:43,794
If you even want a
chance of surviving,
1772
01:12:43,924 --> 01:12:47,798
you better listen to every
single thing we tell you.
1773
01:12:47,928 --> 01:12:49,669
Do you understand us?
1774
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,236
The game begins.
1775
01:12:51,367 --> 01:12:55,371
I hope you are ready.
1776
01:12:55,501 --> 01:12:56,850
We're gonna
destroy you tonight.
1777
01:13:05,468 --> 01:13:07,383
Who are you?
1778
01:13:07,513 --> 01:13:10,342
[inaudible]
1779
01:13:14,172 --> 01:13:15,303
Stupid, stupid, stupid girl.
1780
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:24,791
Russ!
1781
01:13:24,922 --> 01:13:25,792
Russ, I can't.
1782
01:13:25,923 --> 01:13:26,576
Please!
1783
01:13:26,706 --> 01:13:27,490
Russ, please!
1784
01:13:27,620 --> 01:13:29,274
I want out! please!
1785
01:13:29,405 --> 01:13:31,972
Please, please!
1786
01:13:32,103 --> 01:13:32,538
Chew it.
1787
01:13:32,669 --> 01:13:33,365
Chew it.
1788
01:13:33,496 --> 01:13:34,105
All of it.
1789
01:13:34,235 --> 01:13:35,149
Don't throw up.
1790
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,544
Don't you throw up on me!
1791
01:13:38,675 --> 01:13:40,981
[retching]
1792
01:13:43,593 --> 01:13:44,507
Pick it up!
1793
01:13:44,637 --> 01:13:45,986
Now!
1794
01:13:46,117 --> 01:13:47,423
Look around.
1795
01:13:47,553 --> 01:13:48,424
Watch her.
1796
01:13:48,554 --> 01:13:49,425
Look at her.
1797
01:13:49,555 --> 01:13:50,382
Keep his eyes on her.
1798
01:13:50,513 --> 01:13:51,383
Keep your eyes on her.
1799
01:14:00,784 --> 01:14:02,176
No touching!
1800
01:14:02,307 --> 01:14:03,134
Get your hands down!
1801
01:14:03,264 --> 01:14:04,570
Put your hands down!
1802
01:14:07,617 --> 01:14:09,009
You're gonna die soon.
1803
01:14:09,140 --> 01:14:10,228
This is where you die.
1804
01:14:10,358 --> 01:14:11,142
I want out!
1805
01:14:11,272 --> 01:14:12,186
Now!
1806
01:14:12,317 --> 01:14:13,231
You're really hurting me!
1807
01:14:18,584 --> 01:14:19,846
[screaming]
1808
01:14:19,977 --> 01:14:20,586
Keep her quiet.
1809
01:14:20,717 --> 01:14:22,936
Keep her quiet.
1810
01:14:23,067 --> 01:14:24,416
RADIO: Guys, we
may have a problem.
1811
01:14:24,547 --> 01:14:25,635
Did he die?
1812
01:14:25,765 --> 01:14:26,984
What's the problem?
1813
01:14:27,114 --> 01:14:28,028
RADIO: He's starting
not to respond.
1814
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:28,725
Oh, shit.
1815
01:14:28,855 --> 01:14:29,465
Hold on.
1816
01:14:29,595 --> 01:14:30,117
Oh my god.
1817
01:14:30,248 --> 01:14:30,814
Hang on.
1818
01:14:30,944 --> 01:14:32,293
Oh my god.
1819
01:14:32,424 --> 01:14:33,338
I don't even know
if my brother's OK.
1820
01:14:33,469 --> 01:14:34,208
I think I just died, dude.
1821
01:14:34,339 --> 01:14:35,079
Shh.
1822
01:14:35,209 --> 01:14:36,472
Are you OK?
1823
01:14:36,602 --> 01:14:37,647
I don't know.
1824
01:14:37,777 --> 01:14:38,343
Where are you?
1825
01:14:38,474 --> 01:14:39,475
Listen--
1826
01:14:39,605 --> 01:14:40,563
What's the name of the haunt?
1827
01:14:40,693 --> 01:14:41,694
What's the name of the haunt?
1828
01:14:41,825 --> 01:14:43,870
What's the name of the haunt?
1829
01:14:44,001 --> 01:14:48,048
I-- I came out of
the blackou from--
1830
01:14:48,179 --> 01:14:50,268
I have no idea what.
1831
01:14:50,398 --> 01:14:54,054
It just-- I didn't
know where I was.
1832
01:14:54,185 --> 01:14:55,360
Just say something.
1833
01:14:55,491 --> 01:14:56,709
Want to--
1834
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:57,580
There it is.
1835
01:14:57,710 --> 01:14:58,668
Get her over here.
1836
01:14:58,798 --> 01:14:59,538
What are you doing?
1837
01:14:59,669 --> 01:15:00,365
Wake up.
1838
01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:01,148
Come back to--
1839
01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:01,714
Hey, head up.
1840
01:15:01,845 --> 01:15:02,323
Head up.
1841
01:15:02,454 --> 01:15:03,237
Head up.
1842
01:15:03,368 --> 01:15:03,934
What are you doing?
1843
01:15:04,064 --> 01:15:04,804
Let's go.
1844
01:15:04,935 --> 01:15:05,413
Let's sit them up.
1845
01:15:05,544 --> 01:15:05,979
OK.
1846
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:06,763
OK.
1847
01:15:06,893 --> 01:15:07,677
Hey.
1848
01:15:07,807 --> 01:15:08,460
Hold her, hold her.
1849
01:15:08,591 --> 01:15:10,070
Mandi, look up.
1850
01:15:10,201 --> 01:15:11,724
What's going on with you, Mandi?
1851
01:15:11,855 --> 01:15:12,943
Tell me what you're thinking.
1852
01:15:13,073 --> 01:15:14,248
I can't do it anymore.
1853
01:15:14,379 --> 01:15:16,512
Tell me what's going on.
1854
01:15:16,642 --> 01:15:17,469
What are you thinking?
1855
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,252
I don't know.
1856
01:15:18,383 --> 01:15:19,036
I can't do it.
1857
01:15:19,166 --> 01:15:19,819
I can't do it.
1858
01:15:19,950 --> 01:15:20,603
I can't do it.
1859
01:15:20,733 --> 01:15:21,429
I can't do it.
1860
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:22,213
I can't do it.
1861
01:15:22,343 --> 01:15:24,041
I can't do it.
1862
01:15:24,171 --> 01:15:26,826
I tld you I was going to
have you for lunch, didn't I?
1863
01:15:26,957 --> 01:15:30,482
We're not done with you yet.
1864
01:15:30,613 --> 01:15:33,354
So, what are you
feeling, looking at that?
1865
01:15:33,485 --> 01:15:34,791
It kind of makes me mad.
1866
01:15:34,921 --> 01:15:35,400
Mad?
1867
01:15:35,531 --> 01:15:36,488
Why?
1868
01:15:36,619 --> 01:15:38,142
At Russ.
1869
01:15:38,272 --> 01:15:41,537
Because I was done there.
1870
01:15:41,667 --> 01:15:43,103
Heidi, this is your chance.
1871
01:15:43,234 --> 01:15:44,540
You tell me right now,
do you want to quit?
1872
01:15:44,670 --> 01:15:45,758
I want to quit.
1873
01:15:45,889 --> 01:15:48,108
[inaudible]
1874
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:49,240
No.
1875
01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:50,850
We're not gonna let you quit.
1876
01:15:50,981 --> 01:15:57,291
[laughter] You're not--
you're not going anywhere.
1877
01:15:57,422 --> 01:15:58,336
No.
1878
01:15:58,466 --> 01:15:59,772
I feel like I'm gonna die.
1879
01:15:59,903 --> 01:16:00,947
I just want out.
1880
01:16:01,078 --> 01:16:02,035
I just want to be done.
1881
01:16:02,166 --> 01:16:03,820
I just want to be done, so bad.
1882
01:16:03,950 --> 01:16:05,996
I'm really suffering
at this point.
1883
01:16:06,126 --> 01:16:10,130
Like, I am just
mentally at the end.
1884
01:16:10,261 --> 01:16:11,871
Please let me out.
1885
01:16:12,002 --> 01:16:15,222
And it just feels like it
was just a game for them.
1886
01:16:15,353 --> 01:16:16,789
I don't know
what I want to do.
1887
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,097
Because right now you're
very entertaining to me.
1888
01:16:20,227 --> 01:16:22,447
And I like to be entertained.
1889
01:16:22,578 --> 01:16:23,927
I think you're faking right now.
1890
01:16:24,057 --> 01:16:25,668
Are you faking right now?
1891
01:16:25,798 --> 01:16:27,670
Like, that's when I wish
that there was a safe word,
1892
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,193
because I was so done.
1893
01:16:29,323 --> 01:16:30,847
I remember that feeling,
and it was horrible.
1894
01:16:33,632 --> 01:16:39,333
To strip someone of their--
the control of themselves is--
1895
01:16:39,464 --> 01:16:40,378
is harmful.
1896
01:16:40,508 --> 01:16:41,901
Is damaging, is traumatic.
1897
01:16:42,032 --> 01:16:43,816
I want to quit!
1898
01:16:43,947 --> 01:16:44,774
[inaudible]
1899
01:16:44,904 --> 01:16:45,731
I want out.
1900
01:16:45,862 --> 01:16:46,514
I want out.
1901
01:16:46,645 --> 01:16:47,211
I want out!
1902
01:16:47,341 --> 01:16:48,734
That is abuse.
1903
01:16:48,865 --> 01:16:50,301
That is assault. At
least, in my opinion.
1904
01:16:50,431 --> 01:16:52,346
And I'm pretty sure the law.
1905
01:16:52,477 --> 01:16:53,347
I'm begging you, Russ.
1906
01:16:53,478 --> 01:16:54,218
I am begging you.
1907
01:16:54,348 --> 01:16:55,567
I'm done.
1908
01:16:55,698 --> 01:16:56,307
I want to quit.
1909
01:16:56,437 --> 01:16:57,177
No!
1910
01:16:57,308 --> 01:16:59,049
No!
1911
01:16:59,179 --> 01:17:03,140
Because I don't think I could
watch someone be in this place,
1912
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:07,535
and not be able to
stop what's going on.
1913
01:17:07,666 --> 01:17:08,624
I can't breathe.
1914
01:17:08,754 --> 01:17:10,930
It's the only way to save him.
1915
01:17:11,061 --> 01:17:12,453
OK, OK, OK.
1916
01:17:12,584 --> 01:17:14,107
I went through
it, so now I want
1917
01:17:14,238 --> 01:17:15,761
to kind of turn the
tables a little bit,
1918
01:17:15,892 --> 01:17:18,590
and put it out on somebody else.
1919
01:17:18,721 --> 01:17:21,462
And see their reaction, and
see if I can push somebody
1920
01:17:21,593 --> 01:17:23,290
to their breaking point.
1921
01:17:23,421 --> 01:17:25,510
I want to be that guy
that makes somebody cry.
1922
01:17:25,641 --> 01:17:27,164
I want to go home.
1923
01:17:27,294 --> 01:17:29,035
You're not going home.
1924
01:17:29,166 --> 01:17:33,170
I want to now screw
with a lot of people.
1925
01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:34,345
I'm super excited.
1926
01:17:34,475 --> 01:17:35,563
I'm super stoked.
1927
01:17:35,694 --> 01:17:37,348
Like-- I can't wait.
1928
01:17:37,478 --> 01:17:39,089
If there's ever
an opportunity where
1929
01:17:39,219 --> 01:17:40,917
you need an actor, or
something, to come try there,
1930
01:17:41,047 --> 01:17:41,657
give me an opportunity.
1931
01:17:41,787 --> 01:17:42,440
I will.
1932
01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:43,354
Absolutely.
1933
01:17:43,484 --> 01:17:44,660
Well, you know what?
1934
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:46,618
Why would you want
to act in here?
1935
01:17:46,749 --> 01:17:49,186
Because the thrill of
being able to hurt-- well--
1936
01:17:49,316 --> 01:17:51,014
let me rephrase that.
1937
01:17:51,144 --> 01:17:56,280
The thrill of being able to
do this to other people is--
1938
01:17:56,410 --> 01:17:57,890
would be awesome.
1939
01:17:58,021 --> 01:17:59,936
Because we have so many
freaking haters out there,
1940
01:18:00,066 --> 01:18:03,243
that cause so much hate
and discontent, and call
1941
01:18:03,374 --> 01:18:05,506
the police, and call the FBI.
1942
01:18:05,637 --> 01:18:07,030
It's funny.
1943
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,553
The speak the truth,
and they're all lying.
1944
01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:10,163
Yeah.
1945
01:18:10,294 --> 01:18:11,687
Why can't Carol release
the waiver that I signed?
1946
01:18:11,817 --> 01:18:14,037
The document that has my
legal signature on it.
1947
01:18:14,167 --> 01:18:14,994
Say--
1948
01:18:15,125 --> 01:18:15,865
I'll give 'em a copy.
1949
01:18:15,995 --> 01:18:16,648
No, you will not.
1950
01:18:16,779 --> 01:18:17,518
Yes, I will.
1951
01:18:17,649 --> 01:18:18,258
No, you will say.
1952
01:18:18,389 --> 01:18:19,172
Yes, I will.
1953
01:18:19,303 --> 01:18:20,696
This is not a business.
1954
01:18:20,826 --> 01:18:24,003
It's a home that we're
doing for the fans.
1955
01:18:24,134 --> 01:18:25,701
That waiver's to cover my butt.
1956
01:18:25,831 --> 01:18:28,704
It's not for them to try
to get on me later on.
1957
01:18:28,834 --> 01:18:30,314
We have new
developments tonight
1958
01:18:30,444 --> 01:18:32,229
about this haunted house
in the North County that--
1959
01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:34,622
We get death threats
on a daily basis.
1960
01:18:34,753 --> 01:18:36,450
Serious death threats.
1961
01:18:36,581 --> 01:18:39,192
NEWSCASTER: McKamey says says he
gets calls, emails, and hackers
1962
01:18:39,323 --> 01:18:42,108
trying to stop this,
threatening to kill them
1963
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:44,545
and blow up the house,
among other things.
1964
01:18:44,676 --> 01:18:47,635
The police are involved,
the FBI is involved now.
1965
01:18:47,766 --> 01:18:49,899
With the price of fame,
which is, you know--
1966
01:18:50,029 --> 01:18:52,466
and I do have fame
in my own little--
1967
01:18:52,597 --> 01:18:53,729
dorky little world.
1968
01:18:53,859 --> 01:18:55,600
You know, I've got
this little mini
1969
01:18:55,731 --> 01:18:59,735
celebrity, which is amazing
and amusing to me, as well.
1970
01:18:59,865 --> 01:19:02,520
But when that all happens,
though, the crazies come out.
1971
01:19:02,650 --> 01:19:04,000
The really big loons.
1972
01:19:07,394 --> 01:19:08,091
Yes?
1973
01:19:08,221 --> 01:19:08,744
This is Russ.
1974
01:19:10,267 --> 01:19:11,877
OK.
1975
01:19:12,008 --> 01:19:13,357
The That is witnessing people
slapping these children,
1976
01:19:13,487 --> 01:19:14,706
and people with bags
over their heads.
1977
01:19:14,837 --> 01:19:16,055
And I'm not OK with that.
1978
01:19:16,186 --> 01:19:17,404
Well, we didn't have any bags.
1979
01:19:17,535 --> 01:19:18,623
We didn't have any bags, and--
1980
01:19:21,495 --> 01:19:21,844
Right.
1981
01:19:26,457 --> 01:19:28,981
Uh-- OK.
1982
01:19:29,112 --> 01:19:32,245
You have my promise that
you'll never see us again.
1983
01:19:32,376 --> 01:19:33,769
Unless you want to
come to the haunt.
1984
01:19:37,424 --> 01:19:38,121
How are ya?
1985
01:19:38,251 --> 01:19:38,774
Good.
1986
01:19:38,904 --> 01:19:39,513
Good.
1987
01:19:39,644 --> 01:19:41,211
Come on in.
1988
01:19:41,341 --> 01:19:42,342
I'm Russ.
1989
01:19:42,473 --> 01:19:43,953
The man of trouble.
1990
01:19:44,083 --> 01:19:46,956
People build stuff all
the time without permits,
1991
01:19:47,086 --> 01:19:48,609
and they don't get caught.
1992
01:19:48,740 --> 01:19:50,133
Until somebody like
me comes along.
1993
01:20:02,754 --> 01:20:03,668
Lift it up.
1994
01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:06,671
Up and over.
1995
01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:07,063
Here.
1996
01:20:19,249 --> 01:20:23,296
Doing scare acting, it's just
out of the question for me.
1997
01:20:23,427 --> 01:20:25,037
So I thought, what
else can I do?
1998
01:20:25,168 --> 01:20:28,040
How can I just take
this to another level?
1999
01:20:28,171 --> 01:20:29,737
To a different step?
2000
01:20:29,868 --> 01:20:32,218
And I started to look at
taking the scare out of it,
2001
01:20:32,349 --> 01:20:33,698
and just doing acting.
2002
01:20:33,829 --> 01:20:35,308
Maybe doing creepy
things with acting.
2003
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,397
Because I like to still
do the creepy stuff.
2004
01:20:37,528 --> 01:20:39,051
Welcome.
2005
01:20:39,182 --> 01:20:42,663
I play a-- like a sadistic,
cynical kind of teacher.
2006
01:20:45,928 --> 01:20:49,453
The scare acting side
is a lot quicker.
2007
01:20:49,583 --> 01:20:52,238
You have, like, your
interaction with your guest,
2008
01:20:52,369 --> 01:20:53,587
and then you're out of there.
2009
01:20:53,718 --> 01:20:55,459
It's a one and
one kind of thing.
2010
01:20:55,589 --> 01:20:59,811
With the acting, you're working
for a bigger group of people.
2011
01:20:59,942 --> 01:21:01,291
You're not in their face.
2012
01:21:01,421 --> 01:21:03,423
It's a lot safer.
2013
01:21:03,554 --> 01:21:05,469
No one has attacked me.
2014
01:21:05,599 --> 01:21:08,167
Jerry, he was thrilled.
2015
01:21:08,298 --> 01:21:11,605
He's like-- he's really,
now, more into, like,
2016
01:21:11,736 --> 01:21:15,174
what I'm doing than he has
been in the past, by far.
2017
01:21:15,305 --> 01:21:15,827
Move!
2018
01:21:15,958 --> 01:21:16,610
Move!
2019
01:21:16,741 --> 01:21:17,394
[non-english]!
2020
01:21:21,746 --> 01:21:24,923
My-- boss
approached me, saying,
2021
01:21:25,054 --> 01:21:26,229
I've heard about your haunt.
2022
01:21:26,359 --> 01:21:27,883
I hear it's off the wall.
2023
01:21:28,013 --> 01:21:33,671
And invited me to construct
their set for NAB.
2024
01:21:33,801 --> 01:21:37,936
That's one of the biggest trade
shows in the world for, like,
2025
01:21:38,067 --> 01:21:39,024
electronic media.
2026
01:21:39,155 --> 01:21:40,896
And they hired me to do it.
2027
01:21:41,026 --> 01:21:42,636
I got paid for that.
2028
01:21:42,767 --> 01:21:45,857
We built a Zodiac Killer
murderer scene, live broadcast
2029
01:21:45,988 --> 01:21:47,641
booth.
2030
01:21:47,772 --> 01:21:49,208
It's made him feel so creative
again, so passionate again.
2031
01:21:49,339 --> 01:21:50,818
I mean, that's coming
through in everything
2032
01:21:50,949 --> 01:21:53,256
that he's doing, both
at work and home.
2033
01:21:53,386 --> 01:21:55,823
We were nominated
top five booths
2034
01:21:55,954 --> 01:21:58,478
at NAB for 2015, which
from my understanding
2035
01:21:58,609 --> 01:21:59,740
has never happened before.
2036
01:21:59,871 --> 01:22:01,351
Which made me feel very good.
2037
01:22:01,481 --> 01:22:03,353
It was like-- it was like
I was prop making again,
2038
01:22:03,483 --> 01:22:06,834
and once again, you know, it
felt like I was in my element.
2039
01:22:06,965 --> 01:22:08,662
It was huge, the
amount of networking
2040
01:22:08,793 --> 01:22:10,534
that that provided him with.
2041
01:22:10,664 --> 01:22:14,494
You know, like, I can't really
maintain my resentment for--
2042
01:22:14,625 --> 01:22:16,061
you know, Halloween.
2043
01:22:16,192 --> 01:22:17,845
Spent three months
building it, 20 hour days.
2044
01:22:17,976 --> 01:22:19,369
One of the coolest things
I've done with my husband.
2045
01:22:19,499 --> 01:22:20,936
It was great
working with my wife.
2046
01:22:21,066 --> 01:22:23,373
I feel like it brought
us closer together.
2047
01:22:23,503 --> 01:22:24,940
Because I was such
a big part of it.
2048
01:22:25,070 --> 01:22:26,680
It wasn't just his 16 hour days.
2049
01:22:26,811 --> 01:22:28,117
It wasn't just his back aches.
2050
01:22:28,247 --> 01:22:30,510
We could go through
the lows together.
2051
01:22:30,641 --> 01:22:31,947
When we went out
to celebrate, that
2052
01:22:32,077 --> 01:22:33,426
was something we
could do together.
2053
01:22:33,557 --> 01:22:35,211
She did all the jars.
2054
01:22:35,341 --> 01:22:36,647
She was the one who was putting,
like, oh, I got a tongue.
2055
01:22:36,777 --> 01:22:37,691
I'm going to throw
a tongue in there.
2056
01:22:37,822 --> 01:22:38,518
That's terrifying.
2057
01:22:38,649 --> 01:22:40,042
That's great.
2058
01:22:40,172 --> 01:22:41,130
I'm like, where have
you been all my life?
2059
01:22:41,260 --> 01:22:42,348
Like, where was this person?
2060
01:22:43,915 --> 01:22:47,136
I'm just really glad to see
that after all of this time,
2061
01:22:47,266 --> 01:22:51,314
after all this hardwork
2062
01:22:51,444 --> 01:22:52,576
we might get to live the dream.
2063
01:22:56,058 --> 01:22:57,363
To terrify people
for a living.
2064
01:23:04,153 --> 01:23:06,329
[screaming]
2065
01:23:09,941 --> 01:23:12,291
[screaming]
2066
01:23:16,904 --> 01:23:18,297
Oh, god.
2067
01:23:18,428 --> 01:23:19,298
I survived!
2068
01:23:19,429 --> 01:23:20,821
I survived!
2069
01:23:20,952 --> 01:23:23,215
[roaring]
2070
01:23:24,869 --> 01:23:27,698
[screaming]
2071
01:23:32,833 --> 01:23:35,140
[laughter]
2072
01:23:38,796 --> 01:23:41,103
[screaming]
2073
01:23:53,158 --> 01:23:54,551
I love my brother!
2074
01:23:57,684 --> 01:23:58,555
All right, thank you!
2075
01:23:58,685 --> 01:23:59,512
Thank you!
2076
01:24:20,577 --> 01:24:25,016
I put out to all the hunters
out there, look, you know,
2077
01:24:25,147 --> 01:24:26,583
does anybody have a
building who wants
2078
01:24:26,713 --> 01:24:28,237
to go into partnership
with me, and I
2079
01:24:28,367 --> 01:24:30,021
got flooded with a lot
of really good responses.
2080
01:24:30,152 --> 01:24:33,416
Found one in Illinois that
I thought was really good.
2081
01:24:33,546 --> 01:24:36,071
So this is a midwest
town, and I'm so naive.
2082
01:24:36,201 --> 01:24:39,291
I'm thinking, they're gonna love
me, because I'm a lovable guy.
2083
01:24:39,422 --> 01:24:42,729
Well, not so fast
there, compadre.
2084
01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:45,428
So, you know, they want
to burn my building down.
2085
01:24:45,558 --> 01:24:46,603
They want to kill us.
2086
01:24:46,733 --> 01:24:47,908
They want to--
2087
01:24:48,039 --> 01:24:50,998
But in San Diego,
they wanted to--
2088
01:24:51,129 --> 01:24:52,565
Burn the building down.
2089
01:24:52,696 --> 01:24:53,349
Kill me.
2090
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:54,176
Bomb threats.
2091
01:24:54,306 --> 01:24:55,525
Yeah, so--
2092
01:24:55,655 --> 01:24:57,788
So where are you
thinking, in your mind,
2093
01:24:57,918 --> 01:24:59,659
that you're gonna go,
where you're not going
2094
01:24:59,790 --> 01:25:01,270
to get people that want to--
2095
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,011
Burn the building down,
kill me, and bomb threats.
2096
01:25:04,142 --> 01:25:05,404
Where's that fantasy land?
2097
01:25:05,535 --> 01:25:07,189
Fantasy Island.
2098
01:25:07,319 --> 01:25:08,973
[music playing]
2099
01:25:49,361 --> 01:25:50,580
No!
2100
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:21,306
[music playing]
144504
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.