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Jake "The Snake" Roberts is
one of the most authentic
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personalities the wrestling
world has ever seen.
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I'll drop you so
fast with that DDT,
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your whole
family'll fall down.
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[cheering]
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He's done it!
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Behind his raw intensity lies
a depth of personal trauma,
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which has shaped his
iconic in-ring persona.
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How could anything that
looks so hot be so cold?
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Well, it's easy, you see,
time has done that to me.
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Unknown to fans for years,
wrestlers Sam Houston and
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Rockin' Robin are
Jake "The Snake's"
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real life brother and sister.
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Each followed in the
footsteps of their father,
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wrestling giant,
Grizzly Smith.
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The control that
Grizz had over his kids,
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he could pit 'em all against
each other because
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he was a master of everything.
He was a puppeteer.
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Scarred by
traumatic childhoods,
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the Smith children followed
self-destructive paths,
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and each battled addictions
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that nearly destroyed
their lives.
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You know how hard it is to
put a smile on your face
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when you know what a piece
of shit you really are?
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I'd been to prison two days
and I tried to hang myself.
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It's the very,
very young girls,
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that seems to
be the trigger.
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And, I was scared of him,
just totally scared of him.
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This is Jo Lynn here.
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Without a body,
they can't file murder.
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Decades later, the Smith
family finally face their
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haunted past in order to
survive beyond the ring.
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Lies have consequences.
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If you want to feel pain,
then you have to go
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from the top and get
knocked to the bottom.
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That's when you
feel real pain.
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None of us wants to
talk about what happened.
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It's too painful.
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There's just
too damn much...
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that gets drug out.
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There was just
no relationship.
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There was no pat each
other on the back shit.
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There was no,
"I'm happy for you."
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You would've never
thought we were
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brothers and sisters,
that's for sure.
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'Cause we were always that way.
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We had just been kind
of raised at a distance.
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Since the formulation of
professional wrestling as
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an organized sport,
it's been a family business
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to a lot of the participants.
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There's been a lot of
well-known wrestling families,
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like the
Hart family from Calgary,
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the Von Erich's from Texas.
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You could trust family members
with the business secrets
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and the secrets in the ring
because they were your blood.
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And also, they had a vested
interest in the success of
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the industry because it was
their livelihood as well.
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I'm Jim Cornette.
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For over 40 years,
I've been a part of
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professional wrestling as an
announcer, manager, promoter.
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But also, I've been a
student of professional
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wrestling history
for over 50 years.
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Even though the Smith
family was all related,
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the people inside
the industry knew that,
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but to the fans,
Jake Roberts,
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Sam Houston, Rockin' Robin,
Grizzly Smith,
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were all different people.
There was no knowledge,
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publicly, that they
were related.
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You know, in all honesty,
Sam Houston was the best
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in-ring performer of
the entire family.
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My name's
Michael Smith, aka,
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Sam Houston.
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How I fit into
the Smith family,
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I'm one of 'em.
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Depending on
who you look at,
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I mean,
I'm somebody's father,
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I'm somebody's son,
I'm somebody's brother.
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Through our family,
first, Jake's the oldest,
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then Richard, then myself,
and then Robin.
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Robin's one of the best
women's world champions,
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you know, ever to
come down the line.
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And, she's my sister.
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It's an honor for me
to say that.
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- Wah!
- Oh! The bulldog!
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Many years ago, Rockin' Robin.
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- Rockin' Robin!
- [cheering]
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Actually, it was just
kind of a lazy thing.
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One of my first matches,
they said,
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"What do you want
to be announced as?"
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And I just said,
"Okay, Rockin' Robin."
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I think I would have liked to
have tried out Rotten Robin.
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I think that would
have been fun.
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I'm Robin Smith.
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And, for the Smith family,
I am the sister of
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts,
Sam Houston, and then
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I have another brother
that a lot of people
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don't know about, Richard.
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My name's Richard Nabors,
and Aurelian Smith is my father.
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And Jake Roberts
is my brother.
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Sam Houston is my brother.
Robin Smith is my sister.
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It's Jake.
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This is Jake and myself.
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts
is his wrestling name.
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When he was growing
up in high school,
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my grandmother
called him Buster.
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That was his nickname.
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That kind of stuck
with him for years,
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but Jake's what he wrestles
by and what he goes by.
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I didn't want to
travel like that.
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It's not a lifestyle.
But Jake likes attention.
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He likes all the
stardom being on him.
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Please welcome Jake
"The Snake" Roberts.
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When he walks in
the room, I mean,
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it's like, you know,
he wants it all to be there.
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And that's from being in
the ring so many years.
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That's from being
in that business.
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It's just a rat race.
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It wasn't me.
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Jake Roberts, as a wrestler,
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had strengths and
had weaknesses.
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Jake Roberts was never a
high level amateur athlete.
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He didn't have a
ridiculous physique.
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But what Jake knew
and understood was the,
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the mental aspect
of pro wrestling,
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the psychology of it.
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By growing up with a
father in wrestling and by
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learning how to think of it,
and he had the verbal ability.
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Don't come calling
me a sicko because,
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brother, if you look at
yourself in the mirror
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I think you'll find
out one thing...
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You're no different than me,
if you tell yourself the truth.
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts,
once he fully developed
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that persona, was able to
make you believe
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that he really was a
snake in the grass.
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And there was
probably some truth to it.
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He was kind of dad's shadow,
in a way, I think.
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He, he spent as much time
as he could with dad and,
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maybe, I guess,
learning the ropes, you know.
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That's...
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dad and Jake.
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts here.
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Real name is
Aurelian Smith Jr.
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Now you know why we went
Jake "The Snake".
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He didn't want me in
wrestling, period.
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In fact, he got me
fired a couple of places,
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asked the
promoters to fire me.
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To get me out.
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I got humiliated,
I got stretched,
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I got tore up.
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Basically, crawled back
to the locker room and,
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my father looked
at me and said,
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"I'm ashamed of you.
You're gutless and
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you'll never amount
to anything."
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Exactly what I
wanted to hear.
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That was my whole drive.
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I got into wrestling
because I hated my father.
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And that was gonna
break it off in his ass.
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I wanted to hear
my father say,
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"I'm proud of you, son.
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I'm really proud of you."
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You know,
he never told me that.
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He'd tell other wrestlers
he was proud of 'em,
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but he wouldn't tell me.
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Never.
And that was my drive.
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He had worked in
the oil fields.
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He met
someone that had...
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knew about wrestling or was
involved in wrestling and,
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you know, saw this big,
humongous dude, you know...
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[laughs] And said,
"You'd probably be good."
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He would line up on Friday
afternoon where they all
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got paid outside the
railroad yard.
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And he would stand up
against the wall.
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And the guys would
pay him 25 to 50 cents.
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They would pay him if they
could just draw back and hit him
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in the stomach as hard
as they could because
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it was a bet to try to
make him double over.
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He would make more
money that afternoon,
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in an hour's time, than he
would the whole week.
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So, then he got
the wild hair and
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he wanted to get into wrestling.
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He was 7-foot tall.
About 350 pounds.
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Long red hair, big beard.
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He looked like he just
walked right out of the woods.
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He wore a pair of blue
jeans and had a rope.
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His sash cord,
that's what he called--
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that was his belt.
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If he could ever get a
hold of somebody and
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wrap his arms around 'em,
then that was it.
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[cheering]
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Wow, how'd it make me feel?
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Well, I was honored.
I mean, Superman was my dad.
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He's the main event.
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He, you know, he's the
biggest thing on the card,
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and he really was the
biggest thing on the card.
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I used to get really freaked out
when we'd go to the matches.
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And I'd be inside
the matches, watching him.
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He'd get his head
busted open or,
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you know, scratched.
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And he'd go to
bleeding and stuff.
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I'm 6, 7, 8 years old
and I would totally flip.
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So, dad'd get out of the
ring and I'd go back to the
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back with him and I'd
be crying my eyes out,
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and he'd go back
there and he'd sit down.
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And the doc'd
look at him and say,
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"Grizzly, I told you I can't do
anything else with your head,"
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because the skin, the
tissue was tore up so bad.
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They'd take it,
clean him up,
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and put a butterfly
Band-Aid on it.
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"Okay, see you
tomorrow night."
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You know, and then he would
travel to the next town,
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and it was just
an ongoing thing.
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You know, I used to
think when I was a kid,
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I said, why does
he want to do that?
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And he'd tell me, "Son,
I gotta make a living."
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I think one of the things
that has helped me to
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understand life and to enjoy
life as much as I do...
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is my father.
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He would give you a
whipping for lying to him.
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He'd give you a whipping
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whenever he thought
you needed it.
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He'd give you a whipping
for making a mistake.
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[Jake] My father was
a mean man.
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Mean in the way that he
tortured us, psychologically.
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He would play the
angle out at home.
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His injuries, his feeling
of the upcoming match.
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How dangerous this match was
gonna be with those guys.
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And, you know, I look
back now and I say,
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why didn't I figure it out?
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You know, they kept showing
up in the same territory
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my dad would go to,
every damn time.
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What the hell?
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These guys are chasing
my father down and
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they're gonna kill him!
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I remember crying myself
to sleep many a night,
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thinking my dad
was gonna die.
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And that bastard
never told us anything.
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By the end of the 70s,
Grizzly Smith retires from
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wrestling in the ring and
transitions to a management
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position behind the scenes,
but he would use his power
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and influence for something
much more sinister.
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You know, I had been around
the business for a little while
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at that point, and
when I first got there and
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was in the locker room
hearing all the other people
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who had known
Grizzly longer,
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been around him,
talk about him,
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the wrestlers
always had a way of,
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of knocking or talking
behind the back of the
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authority figure or
the "office" personnel.
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But I'd never
heard it like this.
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Every joke
wherever Grizzly wasn't,
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every single little statement
had something to do with,
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"I wonder if Grizzly's
mentoring the young girls,"
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or, "he's probably got
one of them on his lap
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reading her Bible verses."
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And they would laugh and
they thought that was funny.
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I'm like, that...
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kind of strange.
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And I had no idea of the
back story that the family
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had that would come out in
years and decades later on.
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Everybody knew Grizz.
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Everybody had good
things to say about him.
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You wanted to do road trips
with him because
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you wanted to pick his
brain about, like,
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how could I make
myself better?
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How do I make more money?
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My name is Nickla Roberts.
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I worked in the
wrestling profession.
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Look where Baby Doll is!
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My dad promoted
in Lubbock, Texas.
275
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Both of my
parents were wrestlers.
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But how I actually met and
got into the Smith family,
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I think this was
like April of '85.
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I kind of started talking
to Sam a little bit then.
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And, July 30th was the very
first day that we kissed.
280
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And we got married a
year to the day from there.
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Baby Doll is the
mother of my children.
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I love her immensely.
I always will.
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The craziest thing to go along
with the whole Grizzly Smith
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and, and the
weirdness of it was,
285
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to do a road trip with him, we
would like all of a sudden
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be like 50 miles
off the road,
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picking up some 14,
15-year-old girl.
288
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Then she was gonna ride
with us for 3 to 4 days.
289
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And it was just like...
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you're gonna put... okay.
291
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And then her parents were
like waving on the front yard,
292
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like, "Bye,
see you on Tuesday."
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It was really weird
because it wasn't until
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after his death that...
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you kind of start
finding out, you know,
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the whole whirlwind
of the stories and
297
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the whole just horrible stuff
that was going on.
298
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And, I was
there and, and I...
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you kind of get
that feeling like,
300
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okay, something,
something's not quite right.
301
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And you look for it.
302
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I was right there
and I never saw it.
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โช
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Before embarking on a
career in the ring as
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts,
Aurelian Smith Jr. endures
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a traumatic childhood,
which would be
307
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a source of torment for
the rest of his life.
308
00:13:51,613 --> 00:13:54,443
Jake was a, a mean
son of a bitch
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that didn't care about nothing.
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And there's nothing that's
out of bounds with Jake.
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Aurelian,
completely different cat.
312
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Aurelian hasn't grown...
313
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since he was
12, 13 years old.
314
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I put him away a
long time ago.
315
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I had to, 'cause
it hurt too much.
316
00:14:18,422 --> 00:14:22,772
I don't think I've been
Aurelian in 30 or 40 years.
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And I don't know that
I ever will be again.
318
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Aurelian feels it and
Aurelian remembers.
319
00:14:30,347 --> 00:14:34,607
And Aurelian's crippled and
can't do nothing about it.
320
00:14:34,656 --> 00:14:37,346
But I am more
comfortable with Jake now.
321
00:14:37,398 --> 00:14:39,008
I respect Jake.
322
00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:41,272
I know how dangerous
Jake can be.
323
00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:44,135
Jake's okay as long as you've
got him handcuffed, you know.
324
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You know, really, seriously.
325
00:14:46,668 --> 00:14:50,888
Aurelian though,
very scared kid.
326
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And again, I don't think
I've grown since
327
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I was probably 13.
328
00:14:56,591 --> 00:14:58,901
When most of that
stuff started happening.
329
00:15:04,947 --> 00:15:07,647
She was 13 when I was born.
330
00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:11,079
My father was a pedophile.
331
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Disgusting pedophile.
332
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Which would haunt me
the rest of my life.
333
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By the age of 17, then
he divorced my mother,
334
00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:25,316
and he left and
went on the road,
335
00:15:25,359 --> 00:15:27,969
leaving us all behind.
Kids got passed out.
336
00:15:28,014 --> 00:15:30,364
My little brother, Richard,
he was passed out to
337
00:15:30,407 --> 00:15:32,107
my dad's sister
and her husband.
338
00:15:32,148 --> 00:15:33,668
They couldn't have children.
339
00:15:33,715 --> 00:15:36,015
My sister Jo Lynn was...
340
00:15:36,065 --> 00:15:37,755
she was tossed everywhere.
341
00:15:37,806 --> 00:15:39,416
She spent too much
time with my dad,
342
00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:41,640
if you know what I mean.
343
00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:44,329
My mother was blind
to a lot of this.
344
00:15:44,378 --> 00:15:46,598
I had a great mother,
wonderful mother.
345
00:15:46,641 --> 00:15:49,081
Loving mother.
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00:15:49,122 --> 00:15:52,392
After his parents split up,
Jake lives an idyllic life
347
00:15:52,429 --> 00:15:55,169
with his grandmother until
she passes away when he is
348
00:15:55,215 --> 00:15:59,435
11 years old, forcing him to
move back in with his father
349
00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,920
and his new wife, Marsha.
350
00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:04,351
I thought it was gonna be
the greatest thing ever, man.
351
00:16:04,398 --> 00:16:08,788
This is gonna be so cool.
352
00:16:08,837 --> 00:16:13,017
Well... it wasn't cool.
353
00:16:13,059 --> 00:16:15,409
He was forced to
take me home with him.
354
00:16:15,452 --> 00:16:17,892
Shortly after I
moved in with him,
355
00:16:17,933 --> 00:16:21,023
his wife started
playing games.
356
00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:24,027
Sometimes games
that weren't so funny.
357
00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:25,770
Sexual games.
358
00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:27,290
I went...
359
00:16:27,334 --> 00:16:30,384
to my dad and told
on her one time.
360
00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:32,994
And...
361
00:16:33,035 --> 00:16:35,725
she stopped me right
in the middle of it,
362
00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:37,947
said, "I'll tend
to you later."
363
00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,427
And she went in,
talked to my dad,
364
00:16:39,476 --> 00:16:41,086
next thing I know,
she beat me with
365
00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:44,610
a damn clothes hanger
and fly swatter.
366
00:16:44,655 --> 00:16:46,435
It's one thing to have sex,
but it's another thing
367
00:16:46,483 --> 00:16:49,233
to get beaten for doing it.
Freaked me out.
368
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:52,229
Little did I know, my father
was aware of all that
369
00:16:52,272 --> 00:16:56,322
'cause he was doing the same
thing to my sisters.
370
00:16:56,363 --> 00:16:57,673
[cheering]
371
00:16:57,712 --> 00:17:00,852
First, I want to say this,
is that my intention
372
00:17:00,889 --> 00:17:04,149
is not to destroy a
legacy that was,
373
00:17:04,197 --> 00:17:06,977
you know, my dad was
great at what he did.
374
00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:09,116
He could be a hero.
375
00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:12,768
But, to me,
he was my monster.
376
00:17:12,814 --> 00:17:15,954
โช
377
00:17:15,991 --> 00:17:19,861
I guess, just going back
to when it all started,
378
00:17:19,908 --> 00:17:23,038
I was probably 8
or 9 years old.
379
00:17:23,085 --> 00:17:28,045
And, the, the wild
thing about it was,
380
00:17:28,090 --> 00:17:33,230
was that I remember about
a month before
381
00:17:33,269 --> 00:17:37,139
the first thing
ever happened, he...
382
00:17:37,186 --> 00:17:39,356
he, basically,
was working me.
383
00:17:39,406 --> 00:17:41,966
And this is part of
the manipulation that,
384
00:17:42,017 --> 00:17:45,887
that I think people...
385
00:17:45,934 --> 00:17:50,424
people do to kind of
groom you and, you know,
386
00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:53,070
get you where they
want you, basically.
387
00:17:53,115 --> 00:17:55,285
So, for about a month or so
before the first thing
388
00:17:55,335 --> 00:17:57,685
ever happened, he was
walking around,
389
00:17:57,728 --> 00:17:59,428
completely ignoring me.
390
00:17:59,469 --> 00:18:01,599
He couldn't stand to
be in the same room.
391
00:18:01,645 --> 00:18:04,125
You know, as an
8-year-old kid, I mean,
392
00:18:04,170 --> 00:18:06,220
you think, what in the
world have I done?
393
00:18:06,259 --> 00:18:09,309
All you want is the love
of your parents, right?
394
00:18:09,349 --> 00:18:12,309
Then one day, my,
my mother was gone,
395
00:18:12,352 --> 00:18:14,142
and he, he worked
during the day.
396
00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:17,620
He was home working in
the office in the back and,
397
00:18:17,661 --> 00:18:20,491
so he called me in the back,
and just to,
398
00:18:20,534 --> 00:18:22,624
just to say,
"Well, you know,
399
00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:24,626
you know daddy
loves you," and...
400
00:18:24,668 --> 00:18:28,018
and, I mean, I was
so relieved that, you know,
401
00:18:28,063 --> 00:18:30,073
oh, he does love me.
402
00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:33,159
He doesn't hate me and
that turned into the
403
00:18:33,199 --> 00:18:35,549
first time he put
his hands on me.
404
00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:38,162
So... [clears throat]
405
00:18:38,204 --> 00:18:43,214
Ah, you come out of that
real confused and real...
406
00:18:43,252 --> 00:18:47,342
you know, had no idea
how to process that.
407
00:18:47,387 --> 00:18:48,997
I mean, you just don't.
408
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,830
I think that very day it
strips you of your security.
409
00:18:53,871 --> 00:18:56,351
It strips you of
your self-worth,
410
00:18:56,396 --> 00:18:59,046
self-respect, innocence.
411
00:18:59,094 --> 00:19:01,104
It strips you of
all the things that,
412
00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:05,230
that make you a child.
It really does.
413
00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:14,112
I think from when I was
about 8 until about 14.
414
00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:15,853
I told my mother
about it and
415
00:19:15,893 --> 00:19:18,243
she gathered up everything
and we left.
416
00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:22,467
At about 15, I actually
remember telling him that
417
00:19:22,509 --> 00:19:25,509
if he ever did anything again
that I would shoot him
418
00:19:25,555 --> 00:19:26,985
with his own gun.
419
00:19:27,035 --> 00:19:28,075
'Cause I knew
where they were.
420
00:19:35,826 --> 00:19:38,386
All I can tell you
is that my mother was
421
00:19:38,438 --> 00:19:41,268
not the kind of person that
422
00:19:41,310 --> 00:19:43,970
would have tried to
be inappropriate.
423
00:19:44,008 --> 00:19:46,138
If something happened
with my mother,
424
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:49,225
I tend to think that my
dad probably asked her to
425
00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:52,885
do some things that she
never would have done,
426
00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:56,020
just for his own
whatever pleasure.
427
00:19:56,064 --> 00:20:00,684
She was what, 16 - if -
whenever they got married.
428
00:20:00,721 --> 00:20:03,551
So, I mean, she was
very, very young.
429
00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:06,863
When Robin is 15 years old,
her half-sister,
430
00:20:06,901 --> 00:20:09,471
Jo Lynn,
Grizzly's other daughter,
431
00:20:09,512 --> 00:20:11,862
pays her an
unexpected visit.
432
00:20:11,906 --> 00:20:13,596
She came,
she picked me up and,
433
00:20:13,647 --> 00:20:15,737
we went out,
we went shopping.
434
00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:18,869
And it, to me, it seemed
like there was just,
435
00:20:18,913 --> 00:20:21,613
there was something that she
was wanting to tell me
436
00:20:21,655 --> 00:20:24,265
or talk to me about,
or ask me, or...
437
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:27,180
She was just asking
quite a few questions.
438
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,706
Her main thing was,
do I feel safe?
439
00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:31,800
Do I feel comfortable?
440
00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:35,449
I think she
wanted to know if,
441
00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:38,445
if I had gone through the
same thing because there was
442
00:20:38,498 --> 00:20:42,238
no doubt in my mind that the
same thing happened to her.
443
00:20:42,284 --> 00:20:44,594
I don't doubt it,
to this day.
444
00:20:44,634 --> 00:20:48,034
It just seemed like there was
an awful lot on her mind.
445
00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:49,992
And then, it was about
2 weeks later
446
00:20:50,031 --> 00:20:52,161
when she was kidnapped.
447
00:20:52,207 --> 00:20:54,597
โช
448
00:20:59,954 --> 00:21:04,314
โช
449
00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:08,350
Richard and Mike and I were
at a roller-skating rink.
450
00:21:08,397 --> 00:21:10,487
We had gone over there,
gone skating.
451
00:21:10,530 --> 00:21:13,710
And, they came over
the intercom and said,
452
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:16,360
"Robin, Mike, Richard,
the Smith family."
453
00:21:16,405 --> 00:21:18,355
We got a phone call.
454
00:21:18,407 --> 00:21:19,667
It was dad, and he
told me, he said,
455
00:21:19,713 --> 00:21:22,193
"You need to get home.
Get home immediately."
456
00:21:22,237 --> 00:21:23,847
[Robin]
So, we got home.
457
00:21:23,891 --> 00:21:26,981
Dad left a note in
the house that said
458
00:21:27,024 --> 00:21:30,164
Jo Lynn had been kidnapped.
459
00:21:30,201 --> 00:21:32,511
I thought it was kind of crazy
at first because I was like,
460
00:21:32,552 --> 00:21:34,162
how does he know
she's been kidnapped?
461
00:21:34,205 --> 00:21:35,685
Was there a ransom or...
462
00:21:35,729 --> 00:21:37,079
what was going on?
463
00:21:37,121 --> 00:21:39,821
Richard put his
hand through the wall.
464
00:21:39,863 --> 00:21:43,133
I busted.
And I totally lost it.
465
00:21:43,171 --> 00:21:45,871
They were very close,
Richard and Jo Lynn.
466
00:21:45,913 --> 00:21:47,873
Closer than any of us.
467
00:21:47,915 --> 00:21:49,305
Somebody has hurt my sister.
468
00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:51,701
I need to find out
what my next step is.
469
00:21:51,745 --> 00:21:53,485
I couldn't understand why
somebody'd want to kidnap
470
00:21:53,529 --> 00:21:56,399
somebody that was so sweet.
She never hurt nobody.
471
00:21:56,445 --> 00:21:58,135
She had no intentions
of hurting nobody.
472
00:21:58,186 --> 00:22:00,486
She just wanted to
live a happy, free life.
473
00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:02,226
And she was finally happy.
474
00:22:02,277 --> 00:22:05,107
She had a kid, that
mission was accomplished.
475
00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:07,369
It was a quiet, peaceful
trailer park she was living in.
476
00:22:07,413 --> 00:22:11,113
She finally had it going on,
and then this.
477
00:22:11,155 --> 00:22:13,675
When you talk about
murder, kidnapping,
478
00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:15,733
armed robbery,
something like that,
479
00:22:15,769 --> 00:22:17,289
no, we, we just
didn't have that.
480
00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,856
That just wasn't
in Tatum, Texas.
481
00:22:19,903 --> 00:22:21,953
My name's Carl Gage.
My nickname's Buzz.
482
00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:23,522
I've been Buzz all my life.
483
00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:26,519
I'm 69 years old
and in 1979,
484
00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:30,872
I was 28 and I was
Chief of Police at Tatum, Texas.
485
00:22:30,914 --> 00:22:32,834
As I remember,
just on routine patrol
486
00:22:32,873 --> 00:22:35,483
one particular morning and,
the manager from the
487
00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:37,658
Cherry Hill mobile home park
flagged me down.
488
00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:39,104
I knew him, and he said,
489
00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:41,190
"I had a kidnapping out here
at the trailer park."
490
00:22:41,229 --> 00:22:45,059
Jo Lynn was there
with little Ted, her baby.
491
00:22:45,102 --> 00:22:48,722
They grabbed her and
pulled her out and
492
00:22:48,758 --> 00:22:52,108
threw her in this car,
and took off.
493
00:22:52,153 --> 00:22:54,903
Jo Lynn was 5'10,
probably weighed 200.
494
00:22:54,938 --> 00:22:57,638
You ain't gonna take
her down by yourself.
495
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,640
Me and her used to wrestle,
and she's tough.
496
00:23:00,683 --> 00:23:04,643
So, there ain't no way one
person loaded her in that car.
497
00:23:04,687 --> 00:23:06,517
Went right to it pretty quick
and got out there and,
498
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:08,429
the door's open.
499
00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:09,954
Of course, we hear
something in the house.
500
00:23:09,997 --> 00:23:11,217
- SFX: [baby crying]
- And I go...
501
00:23:11,259 --> 00:23:12,389
"What's that?"
He said, "Well,
502
00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:14,224
her baby's in there."
503
00:23:14,262 --> 00:23:16,572
The baby's fine,
wasn't no problem.
504
00:23:16,612 --> 00:23:18,352
Then the husband got there.
505
00:23:18,397 --> 00:23:21,697
We got in and I noticed some
letters on the little table
506
00:23:21,748 --> 00:23:24,528
there by the door and I said,
"What are these?
507
00:23:24,577 --> 00:23:26,007
They're addressed to
your wife."
508
00:23:26,056 --> 00:23:27,666
He said, "That's my ex-wife.
509
00:23:27,710 --> 00:23:31,190
She would send
threatening letters to her."
510
00:23:31,235 --> 00:23:33,275
With the menacing
letters as evidence,
511
00:23:33,324 --> 00:23:35,724
authority's number one
suspect becomes
512
00:23:35,762 --> 00:23:40,242
Faelyn Rogers, the ex-wife
of Jo Lynn's husband.
513
00:23:40,288 --> 00:23:43,468
Investigators discover
incriminating evidence in
514
00:23:43,509 --> 00:23:46,429
Faelyn's car, and she
eventually confesses
515
00:23:46,468 --> 00:23:49,518
to the kidnapping, but she
claims Jo Lynn escaped
516
00:23:49,558 --> 00:23:51,818
shortly after the abduction.
517
00:23:51,865 --> 00:23:53,475
Searching, oh,
lord have mercy,
518
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:55,169
we had search parties out.
519
00:23:55,216 --> 00:23:57,436
We had helicopters,
we had horses,
520
00:23:57,479 --> 00:24:00,089
we had motorcycles,
we had people on foot.
521
00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:03,664
I had a psychic call me.
She came down.
522
00:24:03,703 --> 00:24:05,573
"I think I can help you out.
523
00:24:05,618 --> 00:24:09,008
I think I'm getting
messages from Jo Lynn."
524
00:24:09,056 --> 00:24:12,406
She was given a personal
possession of Jo Lynn's.
525
00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:16,461
She was saying,
"It's just, it's dark.
526
00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:18,628
Maybe like a
well or something."
527
00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,854
Let's starts looking
for abandoned wells.
528
00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:22,944
And we got information on a
couple of 'em that had been
529
00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:24,853
covered or filled in so,
we went out,
530
00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:29,208
we checked them.
We never found a body.
531
00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:31,860
Jo Lynn's body is
never recovered,
532
00:24:31,905 --> 00:24:34,385
making a murder
charge impossible.
533
00:24:34,429 --> 00:24:36,949
Faelyn is brought to
court indicted on the lesser
534
00:24:36,997 --> 00:24:41,517
charge of kidnapping and the
Smith family is devastated.
535
00:24:41,567 --> 00:24:43,347
I think that's probably the
first time my father
536
00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:45,144
ever missed a wrestling match,
537
00:24:45,179 --> 00:24:47,009
was when my sister
was kidnapped.
538
00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:50,970
He went to the trial.
I didn't go to the trial.
539
00:24:51,011 --> 00:24:54,971
I was medicating myself,
trying to pass out every day.
540
00:24:55,015 --> 00:24:58,315
The only information we got
was through dad because
541
00:24:58,366 --> 00:25:00,846
we weren't allowed
to go to court,
542
00:25:00,890 --> 00:25:03,070
and he just said, "No,
you're not going to court."
543
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:05,030
And that was that.
544
00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:07,808
It's amazing that the
evidence was overwhelming,
545
00:25:07,854 --> 00:25:12,084
but without the body and
without somebody to say,
546
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,429
"I saw her kill her"...
547
00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:17,560
She got convicted of
aggravated kidnapping,
548
00:25:17,603 --> 00:25:20,213
got 30 years.
I think she served 7.
549
00:25:20,257 --> 00:25:22,647
Dad used to carry a
piano string in his hand.
550
00:25:22,695 --> 00:25:24,565
You'd take a piano string
and two pieces of wood and
551
00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:25,790
hold it in your hand.
552
00:25:25,828 --> 00:25:27,398
He was hoping to get
close enough to her,
553
00:25:27,438 --> 00:25:29,788
supposedly,
is what I been told,
554
00:25:29,832 --> 00:25:32,182
he was wanting to get close
enough to her to where
555
00:25:32,226 --> 00:25:34,916
he could be able to do that,
and it would kill her.
556
00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:37,488
I was told that it was
4 sheriffs in front,
557
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:40,496
in back, and on the sides
because dad was so large.
558
00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:42,319
And they knew with
a man that large,
559
00:25:42,366 --> 00:25:48,236
once he was mad, it was
gonna be hell to pay.
560
00:25:48,285 --> 00:25:50,235
Well, they say
murder's hard to prove.
561
00:25:50,287 --> 00:25:52,247
How can you prove murder?
Go back to the story.
562
00:25:52,289 --> 00:25:56,249
She works at a place
that has an incinerator.
563
00:25:56,293 --> 00:25:58,603
I believe that that's
where they took her.
564
00:25:58,644 --> 00:26:00,384
Whether she was
conscious, unconscious,
565
00:26:00,428 --> 00:26:01,688
or even dead.
566
00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:03,614
I think she found her
way to the incinerator.
567
00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:08,039
And there's no evidence,
it's all gone.
568
00:26:08,088 --> 00:26:09,828
[Robin] I just started
thinking that,
569
00:26:09,872 --> 00:26:12,012
who would have the
most to lose here?
570
00:26:12,048 --> 00:26:15,178
What's the reason
to get rid of her?
571
00:26:15,225 --> 00:26:17,175
I thought, well,
I mean, really
572
00:26:17,227 --> 00:26:19,967
somebody who's got a lot to
lose would be dad.
573
00:26:20,013 --> 00:26:22,283
If she was gonna
expose him, you know,
574
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:24,319
with the young
girls and, you know,
575
00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:26,365
it would cost him his,
his career and,
576
00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:28,940
so yeah, I kind
of question that.
577
00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:32,198
Richard really wanted to go
to Unsolved Mysteries and
578
00:26:32,242 --> 00:26:34,642
dad actually told him
he didn't want him to.
579
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,600
We're going, "Why in the
world wouldn't you want that?
580
00:26:36,638 --> 00:26:39,768
They solve, they
actually solve murders."
581
00:26:39,815 --> 00:26:41,295
Dad was against it.
582
00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:44,908
So, you know, that throws
in more suspicion there.
583
00:26:44,951 --> 00:26:46,261
[Richard] Yeah,
there's a wild thought.
584
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,690
Did dad have
something to do with it?
585
00:26:47,736 --> 00:26:50,086
Was he involved?
I don't know.
586
00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:51,870
You could bring up a
thousand questions
587
00:26:51,914 --> 00:26:53,484
on the whole ordeal.
588
00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:55,094
I wish I could say,
"Man, I walked in there,
589
00:26:55,135 --> 00:26:57,745
I seen my dad, he was
just bawling his eyes out.
590
00:26:57,790 --> 00:26:59,790
It tore him to shreds."
591
00:26:59,835 --> 00:27:01,045
I never saw it.
592
00:27:01,097 --> 00:27:03,397
โช
593
00:27:08,191 --> 00:27:10,671
Although a conviction is
made for the kidnapping of
594
00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:13,756
Jo Lynn Smith, Jake
"The Snake" Roberts and
595
00:27:13,806 --> 00:27:15,896
his siblings struggle
to cope with the
596
00:27:15,938 --> 00:27:17,978
tragic loss of their sister.
597
00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:28,911
Oh, yeah, the hate.
598
00:27:28,951 --> 00:27:31,691
I, I use the
hate a lot, man.
599
00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:34,087
Thank you, dad.
[spits]
600
00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:36,390
The whole Snake character
was made because
601
00:27:36,437 --> 00:27:38,917
I didn't want people
looking at me.
602
00:27:38,961 --> 00:27:40,831
Look at the snake bag,
don't look at me.
603
00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:43,306
Don't ask me questions,
look at the snake bag.
604
00:27:43,357 --> 00:27:45,707
And everybody fears that,
everybody knows that.
605
00:27:45,751 --> 00:27:47,541
Kids loved it because
mom and dad went,
606
00:27:47,578 --> 00:27:48,748
"Oh, my god, a snake!"
607
00:27:48,797 --> 00:27:50,757
And they loved seeing
mom and dad do that,
608
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:55,059
you know, so, therefore,
they loved Jake "The Snake".
609
00:27:55,108 --> 00:27:57,678
Crazy people.
610
00:27:57,719 --> 00:28:00,979
As Jake's stardom continues
to reach new heights,
611
00:28:01,027 --> 00:28:03,117
Robin seizes the opportunity
612
00:28:03,159 --> 00:28:05,249
to pursue a
career in wrestling.
613
00:28:05,292 --> 00:28:10,302
I went to North Carolina and
trained with Nelson Royal who...
614
00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,600
was a fabulous
wrestler and...
615
00:28:12,647 --> 00:28:14,297
a legend.
616
00:28:14,344 --> 00:28:17,484
And Nelson trained her
like one of the guys.
617
00:28:17,521 --> 00:28:20,311
Wow, okay.
618
00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:22,000
I wanted to change things.
619
00:28:22,048 --> 00:28:26,918
I wanted the girls' matches
to be just as exciting,
620
00:28:26,966 --> 00:28:29,226
you know, if they could,
as the guys'.
621
00:28:29,272 --> 00:28:30,622
I mean, why not?
622
00:28:30,665 --> 00:28:32,665
When Robin
completes her training,
623
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,061
she uses her father's
connections to show off
624
00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:39,244
her skills at a WWF
TV taping, and she catches
625
00:28:39,282 --> 00:28:42,902
the attention of top promoter,
Vince McMahon.
626
00:28:42,938 --> 00:28:45,458
So, they put me on a
dark match with Sherri.
627
00:28:45,506 --> 00:28:46,896
I couldn't tell you
how long it lasted.
628
00:28:46,942 --> 00:28:48,552
I mean, it was,
it's a complete,
629
00:28:48,596 --> 00:28:50,206
total blur, to this day.
630
00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:53,080
I have no idea
what happened.
631
00:28:53,122 --> 00:28:55,212
All I know is
that when I got out,
632
00:28:55,255 --> 00:28:57,645
Mr. McMahon had said,
"Oh, my, my god,
633
00:28:57,692 --> 00:28:59,482
she throws a
punch like a guy."
634
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,910
And, I was like,
cool, alright.
635
00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:03,567
And then,
the next thing I know,
636
00:29:03,611 --> 00:29:06,831
I get the package in the
mail at my house that is
637
00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:09,565
airline tickets and
schedule and all that,
638
00:29:09,617 --> 00:29:11,357
and I was like, wow.
639
00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:14,101
You know, it was a,
it was a total surprise.
640
00:29:14,143 --> 00:29:15,543
...don't count your
chickens before they--
641
00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:17,799
there's a bulldog
off the top rope!
642
00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:21,023
A bulldog!
Turns her over!
643
00:29:21,063 --> 00:29:23,763
- She got her!
- No, I don't believe it!
644
00:29:23,805 --> 00:29:25,365
[cheering]
645
00:29:25,415 --> 00:29:28,375
History has been made,
here in Paris, France!
646
00:29:28,418 --> 00:29:31,248
At the time,
they had Grizz, Sam,
647
00:29:31,291 --> 00:29:33,731
Robin, and Jake
were all working
648
00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:36,822
for the WWE at the time.
649
00:29:36,862 --> 00:29:40,082
In wrestling, the best
compliment that
650
00:29:40,126 --> 00:29:42,166
you can be given is that
somebody would say,
651
00:29:42,215 --> 00:29:44,825
"You're a hell of a hand."
You're a good worker.
652
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:49,180
That means that you can not
only perform pro wrestling
653
00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:51,052
at a high level, but
you can do it
654
00:29:51,093 --> 00:29:52,663
without hurting your opponent.
655
00:29:52,703 --> 00:29:54,923
And, Sam Houston was the
best worker in the family.
656
00:29:54,967 --> 00:29:56,317
He was the lightest.
657
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:58,879
He was actually too light,
he was painfully thin.
658
00:29:58,927 --> 00:30:01,627
And that was what held him
back from being used
659
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:03,709
in a more prominent position.
660
00:30:03,758 --> 00:30:05,628
Especially in the
bigger territories,
661
00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:09,333
Crocket Promotions,
the NWA...
662
00:30:09,372 --> 00:30:10,902
[Commentary]
Poor Sam Houston.
663
00:30:10,939 --> 00:30:12,329
Unfortunately,
Mike was like
664
00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:14,195
a lot of the other wrestlers.
665
00:30:14,247 --> 00:30:15,897
He got to making
good money and stuff,
666
00:30:15,944 --> 00:30:17,734
was doing good, and then...
667
00:30:17,772 --> 00:30:19,172
went to drinking.
668
00:30:23,038 --> 00:30:26,298
[sighs] Um...
669
00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:28,776
listen-- whenever he told
my dad that we were
670
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:34,087
getting married, he had
32 Crown and Cokes.
671
00:30:34,136 --> 00:30:35,876
32.
672
00:30:35,921 --> 00:30:38,401
It was amazing how much
he could drink and
673
00:30:38,445 --> 00:30:40,055
still be able to walk.
674
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,060
At the time, I thought I would
love him enough that
675
00:30:46,105 --> 00:30:47,845
it would get better and
it wouldn't matter and
676
00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:50,109
that my love could
conquer all, and...
677
00:30:50,152 --> 00:30:51,982
it didn't.
678
00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:53,944
I just realized
that it wasn't me.
679
00:30:53,982 --> 00:30:56,202
There was nothing
I could have done.
680
00:30:56,245 --> 00:30:58,195
Addictive personality
must run through
681
00:30:58,247 --> 00:31:01,687
our entire family.
I mean, seriously.
682
00:31:01,729 --> 00:31:05,909
Because they're very
strong addictions.
683
00:31:05,951 --> 00:31:09,611
You have to find
ways to put that
684
00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:15,130
self-respect back
into yourself.
685
00:31:15,177 --> 00:31:17,477
After years of
living on her own,
686
00:31:17,527 --> 00:31:21,137
Robin gets a surprise visit
from her father, Grizzly.
687
00:31:21,183 --> 00:31:24,493
The bell rings and,
I go to open it up and
688
00:31:24,534 --> 00:31:26,284
I see him standing there.
689
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,759
And, right by his side,
this little girl,
690
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,930
about 9 years old.
691
00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:33,977
โช
692
00:31:34,022 --> 00:31:36,422
I could tell you,
the colour, everything
693
00:31:36,459 --> 00:31:40,159
just drained from
my body and
694
00:31:40,202 --> 00:31:43,602
I knew for sure this girl
was in trouble.
695
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,380
So, he comes in and
the first thing he says,
696
00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:49,727
"Can you make
her a daiquiri?
697
00:31:49,777 --> 00:31:51,517
Do you have the stuff
to make her a daiquiri?
698
00:31:51,561 --> 00:31:53,221
She wants to try daiquiris."
699
00:31:53,259 --> 00:31:55,959
It took everything just
not to absolutely
700
00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:58,741
come apart and come unglued.
701
00:31:58,786 --> 00:32:01,086
And, I said, "No, I don't."
702
00:32:01,136 --> 00:32:04,786
Shortly after, he went to
the back and he went to bed.
703
00:32:04,835 --> 00:32:06,355
I stayed up with
her all night.
704
00:32:06,402 --> 00:32:07,662
We never went to sleep.
705
00:32:07,708 --> 00:32:09,748
And, I wanted to ask
questions and
706
00:32:09,797 --> 00:32:12,317
I knew what questions to ask.
I said, you know,
707
00:32:12,365 --> 00:32:15,015
"Sometimes, does he pull off
to the side of the road and
708
00:32:15,063 --> 00:32:17,983
want to give you a kiss?"
And she said, "Yeah."
709
00:32:18,023 --> 00:32:20,633
It didn't scare her,
but, I mean,
710
00:32:20,677 --> 00:32:23,987
she was like, "But yeah,
it makes me uncomfortable."
711
00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:26,679
He got up the next morning,
got all his things together
712
00:32:26,727 --> 00:32:28,987
and said, "Come on,
we gotta go," and I said,
713
00:32:29,034 --> 00:32:32,044
"You're gonna go, but
she's not going anywhere.
714
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,860
She's staying right here."
715
00:32:33,908 --> 00:32:36,958
I was not letting
this girl go anywhere.
716
00:32:36,998 --> 00:32:39,908
I think that told him
everything he needed to know
717
00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,478
about how I felt.
718
00:32:41,524 --> 00:32:44,404
โช
719
00:32:49,532 --> 00:32:52,322
Reeling from the traumas
endured in their adolescence,
720
00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:53,621
Jake, Robin, and Sam
721
00:32:53,667 --> 00:32:56,537
each battle addiction
into adulthood.
722
00:32:56,583 --> 00:32:59,023
But for Sam, the
consequences become
723
00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:01,374
a matter of life or death.
724
00:33:01,414 --> 00:33:03,684
Sam Houston had the
all-time Texas state record
725
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,720
for most DUI offenses.
726
00:33:06,767 --> 00:33:10,987
And, the reason why that he
was not jailed for them long
727
00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:13,822
before that he was, was
because Grizzly Smith had
728
00:33:13,861 --> 00:33:17,041
been such a big name and
such an important person,
729
00:33:17,082 --> 00:33:20,482
and knew so many people in
the state of Texas over all
730
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,350
those years and etcetera,
that he was able to
731
00:33:22,391 --> 00:33:23,831
get him out of it.
732
00:33:23,871 --> 00:33:26,271
He never spent more than a
day or two in jail before.
733
00:33:26,308 --> 00:33:27,568
Grizz was right there
and got him out
734
00:33:27,614 --> 00:33:29,094
'cause he knew somebody.
735
00:33:29,137 --> 00:33:31,097
And Grizz just
knew everybody,
736
00:33:31,139 --> 00:33:33,489
and I think he knew
something about everybody.
737
00:33:40,061 --> 00:33:42,721
I really don't know 'cause,
I mean,
738
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,679
everything I was ever
charged with was only first,
739
00:33:45,719 --> 00:33:49,109
or first offense, or I think--
and I got a second offense.
740
00:33:49,157 --> 00:33:52,247
It was basically always a
fine that I'd have to pay and,
741
00:33:52,291 --> 00:33:54,291
you know,
community service.
742
00:33:54,336 --> 00:33:56,816
Any time I was doing any,
anything like that,
743
00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:58,170
any kind of
community service,
744
00:33:58,210 --> 00:33:59,730
I always gave it my all.
745
00:33:59,776 --> 00:34:04,686
I washed 7 firetrucks one day
for the parade, you know.
746
00:34:04,738 --> 00:34:07,828
After years of shocking
repeat offenses and
747
00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:11,531
lenient punishments,
Sam's luck has run out.
748
00:34:11,571 --> 00:34:14,361
Grizzly is unable to
come to his rescue,
749
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,660
and Sam is ultimately
sent to prison.
750
00:34:17,707 --> 00:34:20,967
If they caught you doing
something 20-somthing times,
751
00:34:21,015 --> 00:34:25,055
how many times have
you really done it? Right?
752
00:34:25,106 --> 00:34:26,926
The Mothers Against
Drunk Driving had gotten
753
00:34:26,977 --> 00:34:30,237
his record, and had seen,
like, all the judges and
754
00:34:30,285 --> 00:34:33,895
all the magistrates that
had gotten Sam off.
755
00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:36,861
Finally, he did
have to go to jail.
756
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,120
They're telling me 30 years.
757
00:34:39,164 --> 00:34:42,124
I, I was at the
end of my rope.
758
00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:45,387
So, two days,
January the 12th,
759
00:34:45,431 --> 00:34:48,091
two days,
a Saturday night...
760
00:34:48,129 --> 00:34:51,869
I knew I had to break
my neck when I jumped.
761
00:34:51,915 --> 00:34:55,825
I said, "God, only
you can stop this."
762
00:34:55,876 --> 00:34:59,266
And... and I jumped.
763
00:34:59,314 --> 00:35:03,194
I'm gonna tell y'all, I hit
the ground with such force.
764
00:35:03,231 --> 00:35:08,541
The soles of my feet
were bruised for weeks.
765
00:35:08,584 --> 00:35:13,074
I know how to tie a knot.
These knots broke.
766
00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:16,551
Meanwhile, Jake spirals
deeper into new depths of
767
00:35:16,592 --> 00:35:19,552
drug and alcohol
fueled addictions.
768
00:35:19,595 --> 00:35:20,895
I'm not gonna
sugar coat this.
769
00:35:20,944 --> 00:35:22,604
A lot of people in
professional wrestling,
770
00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:24,342
just like a lot of people
in professional sports,
771
00:35:24,383 --> 00:35:25,783
a lot of people
in rock 'n roll,
772
00:35:25,819 --> 00:35:27,949
have had bad
personal habits.
773
00:35:27,995 --> 00:35:32,565
Having said that,
Jake's were stunning.
774
00:35:32,608 --> 00:35:34,308
The one guy that
you would think,
775
00:35:34,349 --> 00:35:36,049
this guy's not
gonna make it,
776
00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:39,400
and somehow,
he always did, and still has,
777
00:35:39,441 --> 00:35:41,921
he was like the Keith
Richards of pro wrestling.
778
00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:44,355
The most important
thing in my life
779
00:35:44,403 --> 00:35:46,193
for 20 years was cocaine.
780
00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:48,191
Above all things.
781
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:51,893
Above sex, above money,
above children,
782
00:35:51,932 --> 00:35:55,282
above wives, above mama,
above everything.
783
00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:59,157
Cocaine had to
be number one.
784
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,720
That is really messed up.
785
00:36:01,768 --> 00:36:03,288
I will tell you this.
786
00:36:03,335 --> 00:36:05,985
Being in the limelight
gets you things that
787
00:36:06,033 --> 00:36:09,603
you think you want or you need.
Because when you do drugs,
788
00:36:09,645 --> 00:36:12,815
your idea of a good time
changes, brother,
789
00:36:12,866 --> 00:36:14,776
and you get kind of freaky.
790
00:36:14,824 --> 00:36:16,394
โช
791
00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:18,695
You know, at first
it was one girl.
792
00:36:18,741 --> 00:36:21,441
Then it was two girls,
and then it was three girls
793
00:36:21,483 --> 00:36:24,313
doing this with a rabbit and
a dog and donkey and clown.
794
00:36:24,356 --> 00:36:25,836
[laughs] Having fun.
795
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:27,789
Sitting on the back of a chair
with a lamp on my head.
796
00:36:27,837 --> 00:36:31,227
Yeah, it gets stupid.
797
00:36:31,276 --> 00:36:34,706
I guess one of the biggest
lows in Jake's career was
798
00:36:34,757 --> 00:36:36,757
the Heroes of Wrestling
Pay Per View.
799
00:36:36,803 --> 00:36:42,373
And, this is story number
747,000 of Jake Roberts
800
00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:45,197
showing up in no condition
to perform or actually to
801
00:36:45,246 --> 00:36:47,246
function as a human being.
802
00:36:47,292 --> 00:36:50,122
A lot of the guys that night
put in bad performances just
803
00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:52,044
because they were out of
shape our past their prime,
804
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,039
but with Jake,
he was legitimately
805
00:36:54,081 --> 00:36:56,211
on planet Neptune.
806
00:36:56,257 --> 00:36:58,907
Everybody knew that
Jake was not right.
807
00:36:58,955 --> 00:37:02,655
And, he had a snake, which
became a phallic symbol.
808
00:37:02,698 --> 00:37:06,088
And, it was a 10-year period
or more there
809
00:37:06,136 --> 00:37:08,656
where that more often than not,
810
00:37:08,704 --> 00:37:10,844
if Jake Roberts made
a public appearance,
811
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,840
you would hear about
Jake Roberts
812
00:37:12,882 --> 00:37:15,582
doing something he
shouldn't do in public.
813
00:37:15,624 --> 00:37:19,324
I'm a junkie.
I'm a liar, I'm a thief.
814
00:37:21,891 --> 00:37:23,241
[exhales sharply]
815
00:37:23,284 --> 00:37:25,504
Do you know how much
self-hate is involved
816
00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:27,197
in admitting that?
817
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:29,065
How I had to look at
myself in the mirror?
818
00:37:29,116 --> 00:37:33,026
I took all the mirrors down.
The ones I didn't, I broke.
819
00:37:33,076 --> 00:37:36,036
Within years of the
WWF phasing out their
820
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,689
women's division, Robin ends
her career as a wrestler and
821
00:37:39,735 --> 00:37:43,865
eventually hits her own rock
bottom with alcohol abuse.
822
00:37:43,913 --> 00:37:45,653
Drinking was
never a problem.
823
00:37:45,698 --> 00:37:49,088
I did it really,
really well.
824
00:37:49,136 --> 00:37:50,956
I was better than just
about anybody at it.
825
00:37:51,007 --> 00:37:53,617
It wasn't necessarily
because of...
826
00:37:53,662 --> 00:37:57,492
of... not working as much.
827
00:37:57,536 --> 00:38:00,276
I think that had
more to do with from,
828
00:38:00,321 --> 00:38:04,461
from my childhood.
829
00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:08,679
You know, unfortunately,
the result of that is addiction
830
00:38:08,721 --> 00:38:11,551
and, even with that,
I realized that
831
00:38:11,593 --> 00:38:13,123
it wasn't getting me anywhere.
832
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,340
And, you know, my father
ruined my childhood and so,
833
00:38:17,382 --> 00:38:19,912
I'll be damned if he
ruins the rest of my life.
834
00:38:19,949 --> 00:38:22,949
โช
835
00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:32,267
On June 12, 2010,
Grizzly Smith dies from
836
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:35,230
complications due to
Alzheimer's disease.
837
00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:37,659
He was 77 years old.
838
00:38:37,706 --> 00:38:39,526
His biological son, Richard,
839
00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:41,358
who was given up for adoption,
840
00:38:41,406 --> 00:38:44,576
would be Grizzly's
sole caretaker until the end.
841
00:38:44,626 --> 00:38:49,936
โช
842
00:38:49,979 --> 00:38:51,549
I, ah...
843
00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:53,850
I got there as
quick as I could.
844
00:38:56,072 --> 00:38:58,602
Dad had passed.
845
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,340
He...
846
00:39:00,381 --> 00:39:07,001
โช
847
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,260
He had just passed.
848
00:39:09,303 --> 00:39:12,703
โช
849
00:39:12,741 --> 00:39:14,611
He died while I
was in prison.
850
00:39:14,656 --> 00:39:16,086
I'm in the worst
place in the world,
851
00:39:16,136 --> 00:39:19,746
I just got the most devastating
news in the world.
852
00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:21,142
Well, he's got a...
853
00:39:21,184 --> 00:39:22,664
he's got a lot of
good qualities.
854
00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:28,798
And, he was born out of
love and I still love him.
855
00:39:28,844 --> 00:39:31,764
I thought that with him
passing I wouldn't
856
00:39:31,804 --> 00:39:34,154
have to think of some
things anymore.
857
00:39:34,197 --> 00:39:37,977
โช
858
00:39:38,027 --> 00:39:40,327
But memories don't
go away that easily.
859
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:50,430
No, no.
Hell, no.
860
00:39:50,475 --> 00:39:52,515
I don't think
he thought, no.
861
00:39:52,564 --> 00:39:54,704
I don't think he thought
he did anything wrong.
862
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:58,220
You know, there was
never any kind of serious
863
00:39:58,265 --> 00:40:03,705
conversation, apologies,
anything like that.
864
00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:06,839
I think he thought everything
was just, just fine.
865
00:40:12,845 --> 00:40:15,105
A few years ago,
we finally did.
866
00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:17,071
I, I can't imagine.
867
00:40:17,110 --> 00:40:19,550
I can't imagine how
devastating that would,
868
00:40:19,591 --> 00:40:21,241
could be to somebody.
869
00:40:21,288 --> 00:40:22,938
You know, and,
and Robin, I guess,
870
00:40:22,985 --> 00:40:25,725
like my mom, you know,
they knew as a child
871
00:40:25,771 --> 00:40:28,901
growing up that my father
was Superman to me.
872
00:40:28,948 --> 00:40:31,988
And, they wouldn't do
anything to tarnish him
873
00:40:32,038 --> 00:40:34,298
because they care
for me so much.
874
00:40:34,344 --> 00:40:36,484
Sam idolized his dad.
875
00:40:36,521 --> 00:40:38,651
He probably would have
forgiven his dad for it
876
00:40:38,697 --> 00:40:40,307
rather than
helped his sister.
877
00:40:43,702 --> 00:40:47,312
He could make Sam believe
that it was Robin's fault.
878
00:40:47,357 --> 00:40:50,577
Or he could make Sam believe
that it was Jake's fault.
879
00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:54,762
It wasn't Grizz's fault, it
was somebody else's fault.
880
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,240
I don't blame anybody at all
881
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,500
for the lack of being together.
882
00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:03,715
That was all done
early on by dad.
883
00:41:03,765 --> 00:41:06,585
So, I mean, it, it's--
nobody dropped the ball.
884
00:41:06,638 --> 00:41:08,468
It's not anybody's fault.
885
00:41:08,509 --> 00:41:10,419
It just, it was how it was.
886
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:14,118
โช
887
00:41:14,167 --> 00:41:16,167
That's me and dad.
888
00:41:16,212 --> 00:41:19,172
I was probably 10.
889
00:41:19,215 --> 00:41:22,435
He never apologized for
giving me up for adoption.
890
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,660
And I never asked for it.
891
00:41:24,699 --> 00:41:27,439
I have no complaints.
I mean, how can I complain?
892
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:28,745
I'm the lucky one
out of the bunch,
893
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:31,620
is the way I consider it.
894
00:41:31,663 --> 00:41:34,713
With Grizzly's death,
his children finally feel
895
00:41:34,753 --> 00:41:37,453
safe enough to open up
about their experiences
896
00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:38,965
from childhood,
897
00:41:39,018 --> 00:41:42,148
but their estrangement
still exists today.
898
00:41:42,195 --> 00:41:45,065
I think there's a certain
amount of hope that
899
00:41:45,111 --> 00:41:47,071
Robin and I could be friends.
900
00:41:47,113 --> 00:41:51,033
I respect her and I
love her very much.
901
00:41:51,073 --> 00:41:54,693
And it'd be nice
to have a sister.
902
00:41:54,729 --> 00:41:57,819
Yeah, I'd love to be close
with everybody, you know.
903
00:41:57,863 --> 00:41:59,343
I understand
though that, you know,
904
00:41:59,386 --> 00:42:01,996
we've all got like
different paths.
905
00:42:02,041 --> 00:42:04,961
Do I wish I could have spent
more time with my siblings?
906
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,350
Yeah, it sounds good, yeah.
907
00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:08,794
I'd like to try.
908
00:42:08,830 --> 00:42:10,400
And after this, I mean,
there's a lot of thoughts
909
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,530
going through my
mind right now. It's...
910
00:42:14,575 --> 00:42:17,095
maybe I gotta figure
out how to do that.
911
00:42:17,143 --> 00:42:19,413
Bridging out across.
912
00:42:19,449 --> 00:42:22,499
You know, I think this is
opening some communication.
913
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:25,240
It might have a little to
do with bringing us
914
00:42:25,281 --> 00:42:27,551
a little bit closer in.
915
00:42:27,588 --> 00:42:29,978
I guess this is why I agreed
to go ahead and
916
00:42:30,025 --> 00:42:33,765
talk about it was that, I want
people to really know,
917
00:42:33,812 --> 00:42:36,082
it's very, very tough and
I would never say
918
00:42:36,118 --> 00:42:38,118
it's easy to get past it.
919
00:42:38,164 --> 00:42:40,514
I don't know that you
ever do get past it.
920
00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:43,388
But, you don't
have to stay in it.
921
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:47,520
You can be successful,
you can overcome it.
922
00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:49,305
And for God sakes,
if it's something
923
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:50,609
you're going through now,
924
00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:52,865
if anybody's going
through it now,
925
00:42:52,918 --> 00:42:55,788
tell somebody.
You've got to tell somebody.
926
00:42:55,834 --> 00:42:59,364
It will not stop.
You have to tell somebody.
927
00:42:59,402 --> 00:43:02,102
And, and you will get help.
928
00:43:02,144 --> 00:43:03,714
What I want to tell you is this:
929
00:43:03,755 --> 00:43:05,755
you can't glorify what
happened to me.
930
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,540
But I ain't the only one.
931
00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:10,365
There's millions of
other kids that are
932
00:43:10,413 --> 00:43:14,593
going through the same
thing as I speak.
933
00:43:14,635 --> 00:43:17,635
If you're one
of those kids...
934
00:43:17,682 --> 00:43:20,992
Run! Run like the wind.
935
00:43:21,033 --> 00:43:23,733
Go to the police,
go to your pastor,
936
00:43:23,775 --> 00:43:27,165
go to the... just go.
937
00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:30,523
And if it's already
happened to you,
938
00:43:30,564 --> 00:43:33,394
you gotta get help.
939
00:43:33,436 --> 00:43:37,566
I'm 65 now, and I'm
not ashamed anymore.
940
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,655
Still a little
angry at times,
941
00:43:39,704 --> 00:43:42,054
but not so angry that
I have to medicate it.
942
00:43:42,097 --> 00:43:44,577
I've been sober
now for 10 years.
943
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:47,062
10 years, woo.
944
00:43:47,102 --> 00:43:51,112
I did it.
I made it all the way back.
945
00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:55,150
The bottom line is,
never, ever...
946
00:43:55,197 --> 00:43:58,157
ever give up.
947
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,470
โช
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