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♪
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The first time I saw him,
he had this
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magnetic charisma that
you could feel across the gym.
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And, you just thought,
hey, man,
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that this guy's a star.
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And I'll do
whatever it takes!
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To look adversity in the
face and spit in its eye.
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The wrestling world could
never have imagined that
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an undersized football
player from Cincinnati would
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revolutionize the business,
ushering in a whole new era.
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Shut the hell up!
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Brian knew what
the deal was.
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That they're gonna
screw him over,
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they're gonna
screw anybody over.
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And how he could make that
play for his own advantage.
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In an industry that depends
on the illusion of reality,
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no one did more to blur the
lines than Brian Pillman,
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who shattered
wrestling's 4th wall.
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He was going
against the "script".
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This has never
been done before.
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What the fuck are you doing?
Easy!
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Pillman's over-the-top
antics exposed the inner
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workings of the business,
leveraging trade secrets to
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make the deal of a lifetime.
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That Loose Cannon gimmick,
he just took it so far.
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Don't go in there!
[screams]
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A lot of people thought, "Oh,
man, it was too extreme."
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You didn't know where
Brian started and
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his wrestling persona ended.
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Get him the hell out'a here.
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He had a lot of troublesome
relationships with women.
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My mom had had enough
and that kind of
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pushed her over the
edge a little bit.
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He's being driven
crazy at home,
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he's supposed to
be crazy at work.
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And in between...
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he's probably
really going crazy.
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On track to become a
wrestling superstar at the
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price of his own sanity,
his rise to the top
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was tragically cut short.
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I'm watching the pre-show
for the Pay Per View.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
we have some tragic
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news to report...
Brian Pilman.
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I just screamed.
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He had a persona that
he wanted to perpetuate,
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even if it killed him.
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♪
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♪
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Man, this is the gold chain
that Brian Pillman got for me
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way back in the day,
and I'll never forget,
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we were riding down the
road one day and he goes,
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"Kid, we gotta
have gold chains."
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He goes,
"That'll look great."
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And all these years later,
I don't have a lot of things,
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you know, from my
old wrestling days,
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but this chain is something
that I'll always have it.
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It's very sentimental to me,
and it was a big part of the
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makeup and the gimmick
of the Hollywood Blonds.
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I'm Steve Austin.
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A friend of Brian's from
way back in our WCW days,
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and we were
tag team partners.
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Turned out to be really
good friends and a
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pretty damn good tag team.
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The Hollywood Blonds!
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Brian didn't
phone nothing in.
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He wanted to go out
there and perform.
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[cheering]
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A guy that was never
supposed to be big enough
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or bad enough or strong
enough to do anything...
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He blew everybody away with
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his tenacity and
his will to win.
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[cheering]
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He was a good-looking guy,
great physique, high-flyer.
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Could do everything.
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Oh, man!
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Brian was very athletic.
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It really seemed like he
was willing to try anything,
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and you could tell that
he really wanted
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to be a pro wrestling star.
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I'm Jim Ross and,
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when I was in WCW
in the mid 80s,
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Brian was a guy that we
had very high hopes for and
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really wanted to sign.
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...'cause after we're done
pounding you into submission,
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the only thing
that's gonna be prescribed
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for you guys afterwards is a
liquid diet of embalming fluid!
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Brian, from the time he
first got in the ring,
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you could tell he
was a performer.
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He was an exhibitionist.
He wanted you to notice him.
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He had the personality
for wrestling.
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I'm Jim Cornette.
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I've been involved in
professional wrestling for
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over 40 years as a
manager, promoter,
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announcer, matchmaker,
and I was good friends...
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In the 80s and 90s,
with Brian Pillman.
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He wasn't trying to
just be the move guy.
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He wasn't just trying to be
the guy with
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the nice mullet and the abs.
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Like, he was trying
to be everything.
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He was trying to hit this
business on all fronts and
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fire on all cylinders,
and he was trying to be the
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biggest star that the
business had ever seen.
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My name is Brian Pillman Jr.
I am only son of the
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late, great Brian Pillman,
otherwise known as
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the Loose Cannon.
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[horn & cheering]
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Brian was a natural promo.
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When they stuck a
mic in front of him,
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he would just go off
in that raspy voice.
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You're not running
this interview, I am!
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'Cause I'm Brian
fucking Pillman!
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[cheering & applause]
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Growing up, Brian had multiple
polyps on his vocal cords,
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and it was closing up
his air passage.
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They'd scrape 'em off
and then, after so long,
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they'd grow right back again.
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And that's why his
voice was so raspy,
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because his vocal cords had
been scraped so many times.
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I'm Linda,
Brian's older sister.
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You know, he had
over 40 surgeries.
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I don't know
the exact number.
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When my mother came
in from work one day,
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she could hear breathing as
soon as she came in the house,
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and it was closing up
his air passage.
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And she called the doctor.
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She had to hold the receiver up
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so he could hear him breathing.
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And that's when he decided he
needed emergency tracheotomy.
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♪ [sirens]
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[clanging]
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He told my mother to
have the ambulance
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bring them to his house.
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'Cause his house was
closer than the hospital.
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And he put a tracheotomy
in Brian on his
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dining room table, in the
middle of the night.
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♪
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But, it never stopped
him from doing anything.
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He was always outside
playing and running and,
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he wasn't allowed to talk
for like two or three weeks
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after those surgeries
and he didn't talk.
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As a result of that, I think
he overcompensated later on
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by wanting to always talk,
wanting to be an entertainer.
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It formed him as the guy
that was gonna overcome,
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over achieve,
knock down the obstacles,
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whatever the case may be.
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The son of a
bitch was fearless.
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I mean, he was...
[laughs]
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He was a tough,
tough nut.
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My name is Kim Wood.
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I was the Paul Brown
Strength Coach
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for the Cincinnati Bengals.
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And, Pillman had a
chance to try out with us.
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My instruction
was to kill him...
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and not literally kill him,
but damn close.
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But, he tried his ass off.
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You know, he always said,
it's not about the,
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the size of the
dog in the fight.
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It's about the size of
the fight in the dog.
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He had a reputation
in Cincinnati,
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being a street fighter.
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I heard that he was at some
bar that had an upper floor,
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like a balcony or whatever
you want to call it.
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And, he was up there
and some girl
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threw a drink in his face.
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And, her boyfriend
came after Brian.
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Before it was over,
the guy was hanging--
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Brian had him hanging
by his ankles over the,
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the railing.
Over the first floor.
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And Brian was
banned from that bar.
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After a brief
stint in the NFL,
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Brian heads to Calgary
to play in the
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Canadian Football League.
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Soon after, Brian suffers
an ankle injury,
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cutting his career short,
which leaves him
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searching for what to do next.
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One thing I knew
about Brian was,
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is that he wasn't gonna
be a high school teacher.
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He wasn't gonna
sell insurance.
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There was a lof of things
he wasn't gonna do.
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He could use his toughness
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and his physicality
to make money.
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A couple years ago when
I was with the Bengals,
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Kim Wood,
the strength coach,
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he had talked to me
about getting into
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professional wrestling.
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He thought I had all the tools
needed to be successful.
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And it turns out, Calgary
happened to be the
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premiere training ground for
wrestlers in the world.
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And I said, "Hey,
while you're up there,
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go check out this...
this Hart bunch."
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The Hart's are the first family
of Canadian wrestling...
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...with patriarch
Stu Hart at the helm.
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In addition to his children
that would go on to be
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wrestling icons, the family
also discovered and
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trained several other
future superstars.
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They take him into the Hart
dungeon and they teach him
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how to wrestle in one of
the most prestigious ways
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to break into the
business that there is.
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Well, from what I hear,
if you can't hear screaming
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coming out of it,
something's not going right.
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Stu, the old man, would put
people in submission holds
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and then not let them
out of the thing for,
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you know, 3 or 4 hours.
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If you could survive that,
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you could survive
almost anything.
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So, you get that
great foundation...
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all, right off
the bat from Stu.
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It was an easy bridge to cross
from football to wrestling.
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Brian gets his start
in Stampede Wrestling,
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and although it's a small
territory in western Canada,
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its influence on the
industry is felt
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around the wrestling world.
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In the 80s, there were
millions of wrestling fans,
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but there was a small subset
called "smart fans" that
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knew the inside inner
workings of wrestling.
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The insiders all knew the name
Brian Pillman pretty quick.
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I'm Dave Metzler.
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Editor of the Wrestling
Observer Newsletter.
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It's an insider publication.
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It's covered pro wrestling
since 1982.
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For a long time, it was
like really the only...
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you know, what I would call
true source of pro wrestling
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information that
was out there.
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The sheets were kind of
a thing back in the day,
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you didn't really want
to get caught with 'em.
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You know, it's kind of
like secret documents.
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And then, kind of got out
and damn near
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all the boys are reading it.
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And with Brian,
he had started wrestling
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when he called me
the first time.
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And, he wanted to send me
tapes and wanted me
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to send tapes,
so we traded tapes.
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As far as student
of the game, I mean,
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top, top level, more than
almost anyone
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that I'd ever dealt with.
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Meltzer was a good
gauge for talent.
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So, that tipped me off
that Meltzer kept
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writing good things
about Brian.
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Brian wound up in WCW by
me getting a hold of it.
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Alright, Brian, best
of luck on that...
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Upon arriving in WCW...
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Brian Pillman!
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Top star and matchmaker,
Ric Flair,
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sees something in Brian...
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And looks to feature him on
television in a main event spot.
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And we put that
match together,
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and it was one of the
highest rated Saturday night
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television programs on
TBS at that point in
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the previous several years.
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And, the crowd
popped for him.
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Crowd's chanting:
"Go, Brian, go!"
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Ric Flair was the kind of
guy that wanted to go in the
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ring with somebody like
Brian and go 30 or
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45 minutes and tear
the house down.
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And then he wanted to go
to the bar with Brian or
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somebody like Brian,
for 5 or 6 hours and
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tear the house down there.
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That's the way he lived.
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He lived a cartoon life,
a fantasy life of...
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of limos and...
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long black socks and
alligator shoes and...
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you know, and babes.
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I think Brian liked aspects
of the lifestyle a lot.
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You know, he wanted
to be like Ric Flair.
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Brian Pillman
was a lady's man.
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I mean, he's a gorgeous guy,
he's on television,
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he's a professional athlete.
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So, yeah, a lot of the women
were attracted to Brian.
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Rochelle was a woman
that Brian met a club,
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downtown Cincinnati.
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You know,
they were happy and...
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we all loved her.
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She went and lived with
him in Calgary for a while,
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before he got the
contract down in Atlanta,
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and that's when Brittany
was born in Atlanta.
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My name is Brittany Pillman.
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I'm the daughter
of Brian Pillman.
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I was a daddy's girl.
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You know, everyone sees him
as this wrestler and always
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on the road and, you know,
wrestling was his life,
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but outside of wrestling,
his children were his life.
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My dad thought I was
his firstborn child.
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When I was a year old,
he found out that he had
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another daughter out
there that was 2 years old.
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♪
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I'm Danielle Pillman.
I go by Dani.
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And, Brian Pillman
is my father,
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and I am the
oldest of his kids.
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My dad met my mom at the
waterfront in Cincinnati,
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like, some bar.
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And, I mean, it was like a,
a very brief love affair.
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But, she did end up
becoming pregnant,
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but my dad had Rochelle as
his girlfriend at the time.
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So, yeah, that's kind of why
she didn't want to
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disclose that to my
father immediately,
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but at a certain point,
she felt like, you know,
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I needed my dad.
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And, the second that I
came into the picture,
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he was there for me 100%
and wanted me to be
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in every part of his life.
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And I think that's something
to be said about him is that
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he really did
care about his kids.
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You know, my dad living
that lifestyle and all these
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different women and,
you know,
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he had obviously cheated
on my mom many times.
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I'm sure that
was hard on her,
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but she stayed
with him, you know.
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She had a lot of issues.
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She suffered with
major depression.
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There was a time my mom and
dad were living in Atlanta
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and my dad was at a show.
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[Linda] The groundskeeper
broke into the place and
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attacked her with an ice pick.
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[Brittany] And, she was
stabbed several times.
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Rob her, whatever,
I don't know.
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Stabbed her in the face,
stabbed her in the cheek.
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♪
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So, that'll mess you up.
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♪
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Brian Pillman's good looks
and athletic ability
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allow him a spot on the
card as a generic hero,
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but he's not content to
stay in one place for long,
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nor do what he's told.
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He was reasonably
successful, but you know,
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he wanted to be a
main eventer,
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and he wasn't a
main eventer yet.
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He was, he was a
good mid-level guy.
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You know, Brian's first couple
years in WCW were tough.
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I'm Eric Bischoff,
former president of WCW.
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And, once upon a time,
Brian Pillman's boss.
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Brian was relatively new
on the scene his first
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couple years in WCW, so
he had to earn his respect.
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What probably made that
even tougher was the
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amount of management
transitions that took place.
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Constant changeover in
management led to
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stop and start pushes in
Brian's career.
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As soon as he started
to gain ground and
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00:14:29,564 --> 00:14:32,394
earn respect, new
matchmakers would arrive,
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pushing Brian back
down to the bottom.
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00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:38,440
But finally, they put Brian
together with Steve Austin.
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He's ready to
back you up 100%.
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Alright,
Stunning Steve Austin.
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And I wasn't
thrilled at all.
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[cheering]
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When people hear the
name Steve Austin,
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they think he was always the
biggest star in wrestling.
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At the time, in 1993, he was
still finding his way and
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hadn't got a main
event spot yet.
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And, this is about when I
eventually started getting
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a run as the
United States Champion.
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So, I was really
looking forward to that.
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00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:08,555
I walked into the building
and here's Brian coming up
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behind me, and I knew Brian,
but we weren't hanging out.
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He goes, "Hey, kid, we need
to come up with a finish."
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00:15:13,651 --> 00:15:15,651
And I said, "What the 'F'
are you talking about?"
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He goes,
"We're a tag team now."
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00:15:17,438 --> 00:15:19,878
And I was really not,
not happy.
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I had nothing against Brian.
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But it's like, I was,
I was a singles wrestler.
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I enjoyed working with
another guy in the ring and
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only having to
depend on myself.
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And they didn't have
no name planned for us,
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no this, no that.
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00:15:33,628 --> 00:15:35,458
It was two singles guys
and they were gonna
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00:15:35,499 --> 00:15:38,149
throw us together as an
interim tag team,
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00:15:38,198 --> 00:15:41,418
basically to get other people
over because they didn't
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00:15:41,462 --> 00:15:43,382
have plans for Brian
and they didn't have plans
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00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:44,940
for Steve Austin.
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So, we were gonna try to make
the most of the situation.
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Any time that you
start working together and
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00:15:50,427 --> 00:15:53,167
traveling with someone,
you become closer.
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And, normally I'd be
at the wheel,
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Brian would be riding shotgun
reading dictionaries,
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I mean, because he
was already trying to
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00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:03,010
increase his vocabulary
for promos.
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00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:05,829
And began the
pilgrimage out to Florida!
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00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:08,487
Cut through the
bureaucratic red tape and
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00:16:08,532 --> 00:16:10,452
get that title shot!
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So, as it goes, we're going
down the road and he goes,
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00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:15,797
"Hey, kid. Every tag team
has to have a name.
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00:16:15,844 --> 00:16:17,984
So, what about the
Hollywood Blonds?"
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00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:19,330
He goes,
"It's been done before,
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00:16:19,369 --> 00:16:21,809
but it's been awhile so,
let's do that."
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00:16:21,850 --> 00:16:23,030
And I was
thinking to myself,
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00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:25,419
well, I ain't come
up with a better one.
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00:16:25,462 --> 00:16:28,602
And so, like, I was cool with
being the Hollywood Blonds.
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00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,949
- Guess what--
- The Hollywood Blonds!
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00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:34,340
The vests, the trunks,
everything was Brian's idea,
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00:16:34,384 --> 00:16:36,174
and we were two
cocky, brash,
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00:16:36,212 --> 00:16:38,692
arrogant guys that we
started rolling the
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00:16:38,736 --> 00:16:40,776
camera footage and stuff
like that and you know,
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00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:43,995
Brian had that shit eating grin
or that laugh, you know,
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00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:45,606
when you're getting heat
on a babyface.
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00:16:45,656 --> 00:16:47,436
And Brian and I
developed this bond
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00:16:47,484 --> 00:16:49,104
and this chemistry.
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00:16:49,138 --> 00:16:52,448
I loved tag team wrestling
once I figured it out.
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00:16:52,489 --> 00:16:54,709
I hate to say it this way 'cause
it sounds really corny,
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00:16:54,752 --> 00:16:56,192
but they were
made for each other...
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00:16:56,232 --> 00:16:58,892
because they complemented
each other so well.
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00:16:58,930 --> 00:17:01,980
They worked hard to
make each other look good.
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00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:04,371
The Hollywood Blonds also
gave Brian a chance to
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00:17:04,414 --> 00:17:07,034
open up as a heel,
as a bad guy.
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00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:08,589
People nowadays are
like, "Oh, I loved
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00:17:08,636 --> 00:17:10,766
the Hollywood Blonds,"
but if you go back then,
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00:17:10,812 --> 00:17:12,472
they were getting
boo'd out the building.
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00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:13,819
Pillman, you suck!
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00:17:13,858 --> 00:17:16,208
And you loved to hate 'em.
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00:17:16,252 --> 00:17:19,392
I think it was more natural
for Brian to be a heel because,
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00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:22,389
you know, he wasn't a guy
that wanted to shake hands,
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00:17:22,432 --> 00:17:24,002
and kiss babies,
and smile.
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00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,263
He wanted to be a smartass,
he wanted to be obnoxious,
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00:17:26,306 --> 00:17:27,786
he wanted to show off.
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00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:30,399
You're all a
bunch of losers!
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He was getting
better at what he does,
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00:17:32,007 --> 00:17:33,487
getting global exposure.
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00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:35,970
Partying, having fun.
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00:17:36,011 --> 00:17:39,281
Brian's fast and loose
lifestyle doesn't mix well
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00:17:39,319 --> 00:17:41,579
with his turbulent
situation at home,
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00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:44,235
and he pursues yet another
woman who enters
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his already complicated life.
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00:17:46,369 --> 00:17:49,369
I think Melanie was
working in Atlanta.
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00:17:49,416 --> 00:17:51,366
She was a "showgirl".
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He saw her picture in a
Penthouse or something and
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00:17:54,334 --> 00:17:55,944
says, "I'm gonna
marry that girl," and
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00:17:55,987 --> 00:17:58,637
somewhere along the line,
he met her...
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00:17:58,686 --> 00:18:00,856
My dad was sleeping with
Melanie behind my
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00:18:00,905 --> 00:18:03,945
mother's back 'cause he was
always in Atlanta.
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00:18:03,995 --> 00:18:07,645
Melanie would call the
house and, that's basically,
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00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:10,825
I think how Rochelle found
out about it, you know.
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00:18:10,872 --> 00:18:12,872
She was hurt 'cause,
you know,
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00:18:12,917 --> 00:18:16,357
they had a nice home,
the family was happy.
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00:18:16,399 --> 00:18:19,189
But then he had this
other life in Atlanta.
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00:18:19,228 --> 00:18:23,008
And then Melanie
became pregnant....
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00:18:23,058 --> 00:18:28,408
and, that's how we
have Brian Junior.
435
00:18:28,455 --> 00:18:31,015
After another unexpected
pregnancy outside of
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their relationship,
Brian and Rochelle split up.
437
00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:36,588
Shortly after,
Brian purposes to
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00:18:36,637 --> 00:18:39,287
his new girlfriend, Melanie.
439
00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:42,155
We went to Vegas and he
put on like a frickin'
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00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:46,778
St. Patrick's Day white tux with
a big 'ol ugly green bowtie.
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00:18:46,821 --> 00:18:49,871
[laughing] I had a
white dress, mind you,
442
00:18:49,911 --> 00:18:52,261
the stripper in a
white dress. [laughing]
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00:18:52,305 --> 00:18:55,695
And I had a big 'ol
green corsage on,
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00:18:55,743 --> 00:18:57,443
and I loved it,
every second of it.
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00:18:57,484 --> 00:19:00,844
I wouldn't trade
it for the world.
446
00:19:00,878 --> 00:19:02,838
Ah, my name is
Melanie Pillman.
447
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,490
I'm the widow of
Brian Pillman.
448
00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:08,145
In private, like, he's,
he's just more laid back and
449
00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:11,150
sensible acting,
but he's one of the most
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00:19:11,193 --> 00:19:13,063
intelligent men I've ever
met in my life.
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00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:17,198
So well read and he just
excelled at so many things.
452
00:19:17,243 --> 00:19:19,163
He was...
he was my soul mate,
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00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:22,511
I mean, I couldn't have picked
a better guy to love...
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00:19:22,552 --> 00:19:24,342
love, than him.
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00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:28,950
His first years with her,
I thought he was very happy.
456
00:19:28,993 --> 00:19:31,783
It'd be a big thing,
his Christmas card 'cause
457
00:19:31,822 --> 00:19:35,132
it would be him and the wife,
and all these little kids.
458
00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,484
'Cause I had my
two kids, you know.
459
00:19:37,524 --> 00:19:40,404
He would show up with like
three or four little kids.
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00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,010
They all had
different mothers.
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00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:44,660
They'd be climbing on him,
he'd be carrying a couple and,
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00:19:44,705 --> 00:19:46,835
one had his legs around
his neck and
463
00:19:46,881 --> 00:19:48,401
one is on his shoulder and...
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00:19:48,448 --> 00:19:49,968
he loved those kids.
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00:19:50,014 --> 00:19:51,974
He was counted on,
he was depended on to,
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00:19:52,016 --> 00:19:53,446
to provide.
467
00:19:53,496 --> 00:19:55,926
That responsibility is what
pushes you to keep going
468
00:19:55,977 --> 00:19:58,327
to work. You have
to provide for your family.
469
00:19:58,371 --> 00:20:00,501
Stunning Steve
and Flyin' Brian.
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00:20:00,547 --> 00:20:03,197
And, finally, they made
the decision to give the
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00:20:03,245 --> 00:20:05,675
Hollywood Blonds a
big main event match.
472
00:20:05,726 --> 00:20:07,986
It was gonna be on a Clash
of Champions and Ric Flair
473
00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:10,252
was returning, he was
gonna be involved.
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00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:13,466
And, the rating came in
and it wasn't very good,
475
00:20:13,516 --> 00:20:15,166
and they couldn't blame
Flair because
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00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:17,654
he was a big star so,
they put the heat on
477
00:20:17,694 --> 00:20:19,094
Brian Pillman
and Steve Austin.
478
00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:21,520
"Well, the Hollywood Blonds
didn't draw a rating."
479
00:20:21,568 --> 00:20:24,268
And that kind of doomed them
there as being featured
480
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:26,440
in a more prominent
capacity going forward.
481
00:20:26,486 --> 00:20:28,306
It felt like betrayal.
482
00:20:28,357 --> 00:20:30,787
I wish someone would finally
tell me why the company
483
00:20:30,838 --> 00:20:33,008
decided to break us up
'cause we started getting
484
00:20:33,057 --> 00:20:37,187
over as a viable tag
team that could hold,
485
00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:39,406
you know, world
championship belts.
486
00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:40,625
We did.
487
00:20:40,674 --> 00:20:43,204
We make chicken shit
into chicken salad,
488
00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:46,162
and now you want to split
us out with no real
489
00:20:46,201 --> 00:20:48,251
clear direction for
either one of us.
490
00:20:48,290 --> 00:20:50,770
So, breaking us up
broke my heart.
491
00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:53,254
I don't know of any
other talents that have been
492
00:20:53,295 --> 00:20:55,115
buried because they
drew a bad rating.
493
00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:57,726
At the time, TBS was
drawing a lot of bad ratings,
494
00:20:57,778 --> 00:21:00,078
but I think there was probably
somebody that just thought,
495
00:21:00,128 --> 00:21:01,608
"I don't want to
use these guys," and
496
00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:03,091
they used that as an excuse.
497
00:21:03,131 --> 00:21:06,271
How that was handled,
I look back on it today and
498
00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:08,138
still shake my head that...
499
00:21:08,179 --> 00:21:10,749
we could 'a done better.
500
00:21:10,791 --> 00:21:14,011
I would say the period
from 1990 to 1993,
501
00:21:14,055 --> 00:21:17,535
it was very
frustrating for Brian.
502
00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:20,710
Also, there was some
knowledge early on that
503
00:21:20,757 --> 00:21:23,717
his home life was not as
happy as it could be.
504
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,890
I felt like my dad allowed
Melanie to run the show.
505
00:21:26,937 --> 00:21:29,287
Melanie treated my
mom very poorly.
506
00:21:29,331 --> 00:21:31,941
I feel like she was
very jealous of my mother.
507
00:21:31,986 --> 00:21:34,856
Melanie didn't like
him talking to her.
508
00:21:34,902 --> 00:21:37,692
She didn't like me and my
mother talking to Rochelle.
509
00:21:37,731 --> 00:21:40,521
You know, she just, she made
it hard to like her 'cause
510
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,300
she just caused trouble.
511
00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:44,614
And then, Rochelle
took off and
512
00:21:44,651 --> 00:21:47,131
didn't tell anybody
where she was.
513
00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:50,045
Rochelle is scheduled to
see Brittany for a visit,
514
00:21:50,091 --> 00:21:51,481
but she never shows.
515
00:21:51,527 --> 00:21:53,567
No one is able to
get a hold of her,
516
00:21:53,616 --> 00:21:56,316
resulting in a
missing persons report.
517
00:21:56,358 --> 00:22:00,098
Several days later, when
Rochelle finally surfaces,
518
00:22:00,144 --> 00:22:02,634
Brian and Melanie
take decisive action.
519
00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:05,799
And Brian said -
and I agreed with him,
520
00:22:05,846 --> 00:22:09,496
and I shouldn't have, "We
should just file for custody."
521
00:22:09,545 --> 00:22:11,545
And, that
changed everything.
522
00:22:11,591 --> 00:22:13,241
♪
523
00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:21,557
Following the tag team
break up with Steve Austin,
524
00:22:21,601 --> 00:22:24,341
Brian's career has stalled,
and the cracks in his
525
00:22:24,386 --> 00:22:28,906
family life start to break open,
consuming those around him.
526
00:22:28,956 --> 00:22:31,736
The custody battle
started because
527
00:22:31,785 --> 00:22:34,085
Melanie didn't want
Rochelle around.
528
00:22:34,135 --> 00:22:37,305
Basically, Brian had more
money and could keep the
529
00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:40,576
attorneys paid 'cause the
attorneys only work
530
00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:41,930
when you pay 'em.
531
00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:45,019
And, Rochelle just
didn't have any more money.
532
00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:47,499
I was, you know, delivering
stuff to the lawyer.
533
00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:50,630
I was bombarding her with
these stupid things about
534
00:22:50,673 --> 00:22:54,593
returning past child support
that she blew in--
535
00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:58,864
You know, just little minutiae
that was making me feel
536
00:22:58,899 --> 00:23:01,419
like a better person,
but in reality,
537
00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:02,857
I wasn't the better person.
538
00:23:02,903 --> 00:23:04,383
Nobody should try to take
kids away from a mother.
539
00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:05,726
I should have
never done that.
540
00:23:05,775 --> 00:23:07,685
In a million years,
I would never do it again.
541
00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:10,744
It just devastated Rochelle.
542
00:23:10,780 --> 00:23:15,310
♪
543
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:18,610
I was outside riding
my bicycle one day.
544
00:23:18,658 --> 00:23:21,228
This was at a time when she
wasn't allowed to see me,
545
00:23:21,269 --> 00:23:24,749
and she came pulling up and
I just went running to her
546
00:23:24,794 --> 00:23:26,454
and I was so
happy to see her.
547
00:23:26,492 --> 00:23:29,762
Rochelle was hugging her...
548
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:32,589
and they thought
she was taking her.
549
00:23:32,628 --> 00:23:34,798
Here comes my dad and
it was just like this
550
00:23:34,848 --> 00:23:39,068
huge argument, him pulling
her away from me.
551
00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:44,163
Melanie filed kidnapping
charges against Rochelle.
552
00:23:44,205 --> 00:23:46,985
And so, my dad had
got full custody of me,
553
00:23:47,034 --> 00:23:49,784
and in my mom's mind,
she was just like,
554
00:23:49,819 --> 00:23:51,469
I'm gonna lose my daughter
and I'm never gonna
555
00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:53,517
see her again, and so...
556
00:23:53,562 --> 00:23:56,612
my mom called my dad's house
and she wanted to
557
00:23:56,652 --> 00:23:58,872
talk to my dad,
but he was out of town.
558
00:23:58,915 --> 00:24:01,085
Melanie had answered
and Melanie told her,
559
00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:03,435
she said, "Even your own
mother thinks I would be a
560
00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:06,095
better mother for your
daughter than you'll ever be."
561
00:24:06,140 --> 00:24:09,880
♪
562
00:24:09,926 --> 00:24:13,016
And my mom
called my grandma...
563
00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,410
She called her mother
and told her mother
564
00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:17,544
what she was gonna do...
565
00:24:17,586 --> 00:24:20,676
♪
566
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,250
And then she shot herself.
567
00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:28,858
♪
568
00:24:28,902 --> 00:24:31,382
I got the call to go to
the hospital 'cause
569
00:24:31,426 --> 00:24:35,466
she was being airlifted in,
I was the closest.
570
00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:38,517
And I was the one at the
hospital that they told,
571
00:24:38,564 --> 00:24:41,394
and then I had to
tell everybody...
572
00:24:41,436 --> 00:24:45,396
that she was gone.
She died on the helicopter.
573
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:51,450
So, I had to call her
mother and tell her mother.
574
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:55,360
Oh, it was very hard.
To tell some--
575
00:24:55,406 --> 00:24:58,796
to tell somebody's mother
that their child was dead.
576
00:24:58,845 --> 00:25:01,885
♪
577
00:25:01,935 --> 00:25:04,105
It just destroyed
Brian because
578
00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:06,724
he felt so responsible. I mean,
he was just so upset.
579
00:25:06,766 --> 00:25:08,546
He cried, and he cried,
and he said,
580
00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:10,734
"Do you think it was all
that pressure we put on her?
581
00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:12,120
I think it was, Mel."
582
00:25:12,162 --> 00:25:14,902
I'd be like, "Yeah,
it probably was."
583
00:25:14,948 --> 00:25:16,338
So, Brian, he wanted
to pay for
584
00:25:16,384 --> 00:25:20,694
her whole funeral
and everything.
585
00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:25,606
And, at the funeral,
he held it together...
586
00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:28,354
until they
closed the casket.
587
00:25:28,396 --> 00:25:30,216
And, he lost it.
588
00:25:30,267 --> 00:25:32,747
He was hugging me
and sobbing.
589
00:25:32,792 --> 00:25:36,322
And, in fact, at one point,
I kind of looked at him
590
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:40,630
'cause I thought he, I thought
he was gonna pass out.
591
00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:45,069
He was devastated...
He was devastated.
592
00:25:45,108 --> 00:25:47,758
♪
593
00:25:47,807 --> 00:25:49,457
I felt...
594
00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:52,204
so guilty for that,
for years.
595
00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:55,596
And, I think I drove her--
Maybe not just me,
596
00:25:55,641 --> 00:26:00,691
but I think incidents
drove her to shoot herself.
597
00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:02,693
Rethinking it, I would,
I wouldn't have done it
598
00:26:02,735 --> 00:26:03,945
the same way.
599
00:26:03,997 --> 00:26:05,647
Nobody should have to
fight for their kid.
600
00:26:05,694 --> 00:26:07,224
I mean, it wasn't like
she was abusing her.
601
00:26:07,261 --> 00:26:10,351
So, I don't really know what
my problem was back then.
602
00:26:10,394 --> 00:26:13,014
It was, it was devastating,
603
00:26:13,049 --> 00:26:15,569
and I know it was for Brittany.
604
00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:19,487
I have a lot of anger built
up towards my dad in a sense
605
00:26:19,534 --> 00:26:22,974
because I do wish that
he would have, you know,
606
00:26:23,016 --> 00:26:25,236
allowed my mom
to at least see me because
607
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:26,979
maybe she would
still be here today.
608
00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:28,370
I don't, you know,
I don't know.
609
00:26:28,412 --> 00:26:31,242
She had a lot of issues,
but Melanie was
610
00:26:31,285 --> 00:26:32,975
the overall call.
She's,
611
00:26:33,026 --> 00:26:36,506
she's an evil person
and she's always been that way.
612
00:26:36,551 --> 00:26:39,381
Melanie should have never
said those words to my mom.
613
00:26:39,423 --> 00:26:42,123
She's just, she's literally
the devil and they say,
614
00:26:42,165 --> 00:26:44,115
you know,
you reap what you sow...
615
00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:47,867
and now, she's living a life
that she should have already
616
00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:50,040
been dead years ago because
of all the drugs that
617
00:26:50,086 --> 00:26:52,786
she's done, but I feel like
she's gonna live to be
618
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:56,088
100 years old and absolutely
miserable for all the pain and
619
00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:58,176
suffering that
she has caused me,
620
00:26:58,225 --> 00:27:00,045
and my brother,
and you know,
621
00:27:00,096 --> 00:27:02,226
my Aunt Linda.
622
00:27:02,272 --> 00:27:04,452
♪
623
00:27:04,492 --> 00:27:07,672
And I-- And Brittany's the
one that, you know...
624
00:27:07,713 --> 00:27:08,933
I don't know how to
make it up to her.
625
00:27:08,975 --> 00:27:10,315
I just, there's nothing I...
626
00:27:10,367 --> 00:27:11,977
I don't really know how
to make it up to her.
627
00:27:12,021 --> 00:27:13,891
I wish I could.
628
00:27:13,936 --> 00:27:15,496
♪
629
00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:18,676
The guilt of Rochelle's death
weighs heavily on Brian,
630
00:27:18,724 --> 00:27:21,344
and he dives even
deeper into his career.
631
00:27:21,378 --> 00:27:24,688
With his contract renewal
with the WCW looming,
632
00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:27,340
Brian is determined
to renegotiate
633
00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:28,914
for even more money.
634
00:27:28,951 --> 00:27:31,351
When we talk business,
it's like, "I have five kids,
635
00:27:31,388 --> 00:27:33,038
I don't know how many
more years I can do this
636
00:27:33,086 --> 00:27:34,296
because my
body's falling apart.
637
00:27:34,348 --> 00:27:36,958
I have to make
big money now...
638
00:27:37,003 --> 00:27:38,663
because I've got five kids!"
639
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:41,010
This was his shot.
640
00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:43,620
He talks with Bischoff
that was evidently doing the
641
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:47,232
contracts there, and
Bischoff says to him,
642
00:27:47,274 --> 00:27:50,064
"Expect about what
you're getting now."
643
00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:52,413
He was pretty happy that
I got him back to 225,
644
00:27:52,453 --> 00:27:54,503
but I think he wanted four,
is the number that
645
00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:56,632
he was really wanting.
I couldn't give it to him.
646
00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:58,755
I couldn't justify it at
the time that he wanted it.
647
00:27:58,807 --> 00:28:01,897
He came to me and
he says, "What do I do?"
648
00:28:01,941 --> 00:28:05,161
And what I told him
was this...
649
00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:07,075
It's a question of value.
650
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,080
And when everybody's
using everybody else,
651
00:28:10,123 --> 00:28:13,693
what can you do that
other people can't do?
652
00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:16,995
What can you do
that gains notoriety?
653
00:28:17,043 --> 00:28:19,003
This thing runs
on attention.
654
00:28:19,045 --> 00:28:22,825
It runs on very
superficial things.
655
00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:24,215
We gotta create attention.
656
00:28:24,267 --> 00:28:27,307
How can we do that in
the position you're in?
657
00:28:27,357 --> 00:28:29,577
With his pulse on the
wrestling landscape,
658
00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:32,750
Brian knew that he had to
find a way to up the ante
659
00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:36,368
in order to shock even
the most hardcore of fans.
660
00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:40,150
Brian knew if he could make
people legitimately believe
661
00:28:40,196 --> 00:28:42,496
that he was a loose cannon,
that he was nuts,
662
00:28:42,546 --> 00:28:44,196
he was off his rocker,
he was capable of
663
00:28:44,244 --> 00:28:46,944
doing anything or saying
anything at any time,
664
00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:48,466
that he could be one of
the hottest guys
665
00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:49,859
in the wrestling industry.
666
00:28:49,902 --> 00:28:53,342
It was a pure money deal.
What do we really want?
667
00:28:53,383 --> 00:28:56,263
Bischoff to offer you a
hell of a lot more money,
668
00:28:56,299 --> 00:29:00,779
and we want Vince McMahon
to see that you are of value
669
00:29:00,826 --> 00:29:04,346
and offer you more.
And then you flip a coin.
670
00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:06,094
If he could play one side
against the other
671
00:29:06,135 --> 00:29:08,485
in the middle of the
burgeoning wrestling war,
672
00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:10,309
then he would come
out much better,
673
00:29:10,357 --> 00:29:12,047
six figures per year better.
674
00:29:12,098 --> 00:29:14,538
And that's what he
set about to do.
675
00:29:14,578 --> 00:29:17,408
♪
676
00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:23,457
Brian Pillman's plan
was simple:
677
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,720
More attention
means more money.
678
00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:30,034
As the WWF and WCW are
engaged in a ratings battle,
679
00:29:30,072 --> 00:29:33,162
Brian exploits this to his
advantage by playing them
680
00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:36,636
off each other, while driving
up his own value.
681
00:29:36,687 --> 00:29:39,337
Brian came up with the
Loose Cannon idea and
682
00:29:39,386 --> 00:29:44,736
started slowly integrating it
into his television appearances.
683
00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:47,443
Bobby Heenan was the
colour commentator.
684
00:29:47,481 --> 00:29:50,271
Bobby had had a broken neck,
and he'd had surgery,
685
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:51,920
and he was very
protective of his neck and,
686
00:29:51,964 --> 00:29:54,144
Brian goes around behind
Bobby and starts
687
00:29:54,183 --> 00:29:55,753
grabbing him by the
shoulders and everything
688
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,014
and on live television.
Bobby says...
689
00:29:58,057 --> 00:30:00,187
What the fuck are
you doing? Easy!
690
00:30:00,233 --> 00:30:01,803
And then Brian
knew he got it.
691
00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:03,323
He got gold out
of it, right,
692
00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:05,146
because now everybody's
gonna be talking about
693
00:30:05,194 --> 00:30:08,854
the F-bomb that got
dropped on Turner Broadcast.
694
00:30:08,894 --> 00:30:10,944
Bobby thought
Brian was nuts.
695
00:30:10,983 --> 00:30:13,163
I think the Brain has left.
696
00:30:13,202 --> 00:30:16,252
It seemed real, to the point
where people were confused
697
00:30:16,292 --> 00:30:18,862
whether it was real or not.
698
00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,254
One of the guys he was
involved with was
699
00:30:20,296 --> 00:30:23,906
Kevin Sullivan who was the
booker, the matchmaker.
700
00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:24,872
Oh, my goodness!
701
00:30:24,910 --> 00:30:26,170
They got a fight
going on here!
702
00:30:26,215 --> 00:30:27,735
You know, they're just
beating the hell out of
703
00:30:27,782 --> 00:30:30,612
each other and when Brian
Pillman was ready to quit,
704
00:30:30,654 --> 00:30:32,614
when it was time for
him to leave, he was like...
705
00:30:32,656 --> 00:30:36,176
I respect you, booker man.
706
00:30:36,225 --> 00:30:38,615
"I respect you, booker man."
707
00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:41,362
The mere fact that he was
acknowledging on national
708
00:30:41,404 --> 00:30:44,764
television that Kevin
Sullivan was a head writer
709
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,709
of a wrestling show was
something that had
710
00:30:46,757 --> 00:30:48,537
never been done before.
711
00:30:48,585 --> 00:30:51,145
Those that knew, knew.
And those that didn't know,
712
00:30:51,197 --> 00:30:54,237
would need to find out what a
booker man meant.
713
00:30:54,287 --> 00:30:57,677
It was a big thing because
those guys are sensitive
714
00:30:57,725 --> 00:30:59,545
about exposing the business.
715
00:30:59,596 --> 00:31:01,286
When you're acting
out a story line,
716
00:31:01,337 --> 00:31:02,767
it's considered a work.
717
00:31:02,817 --> 00:31:04,857
And, a lot of the boys
backstage weren't really
718
00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:08,516
sure this was real or
if this was a work.
719
00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:10,652
The wrestling locker rooms
had never been
720
00:31:10,694 --> 00:31:12,354
invaded that way before.
721
00:31:12,392 --> 00:31:15,662
Because he knew if the other
wrestlers believed it was real,
722
00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:18,219
then they would
tell the newsletter editors.
723
00:31:18,267 --> 00:31:19,877
"Wow, that
guy's really nuts."
724
00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:21,491
And the word would travel.
725
00:31:21,531 --> 00:31:22,971
I thought, this is
going down bad.
726
00:31:23,011 --> 00:31:24,841
Brian's getting fired.
727
00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:26,583
And I'm out of
contact with him anyway,
728
00:31:26,623 --> 00:31:28,503
so I think he's completely
lost his mind, you know,
729
00:31:28,538 --> 00:31:29,928
he's not even
talking to me anymore.
730
00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:33,665
The "smart fans" were
starting to figure out that
731
00:31:33,717 --> 00:31:36,237
wrestling is manipulated,
it's choreographed,
732
00:31:36,285 --> 00:31:38,805
it's pre-determined, but
that guy's nuts and
733
00:31:38,853 --> 00:31:41,383
he's real, and he won't do
what they tell him.
734
00:31:41,421 --> 00:31:44,551
And that sells tickets
because you had no idea
735
00:31:44,598 --> 00:31:47,208
what or whether it was
supposed to happen or not.
736
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:52,213
He was convincing
people that he was insane.
737
00:31:52,258 --> 00:31:55,568
Not only were the
fans ready to be fooled,
738
00:31:55,609 --> 00:31:58,959
but all the wrestlers were,
the management people were,
739
00:31:59,004 --> 00:32:01,014
there was a whole bunch of
people that you could
740
00:32:01,049 --> 00:32:02,489
play like a violin.
741
00:32:02,529 --> 00:32:03,829
- Brian, I'd like to know--
- Nervous?
742
00:32:03,878 --> 00:32:05,578
No, I'm not nervous.
I'm not nervous at all.
743
00:32:05,619 --> 00:32:07,189
You should be.
744
00:32:07,229 --> 00:32:11,019
I don't think anybody for sure
at any given moment knew...
745
00:32:11,059 --> 00:32:14,579
if or not they were really
being worked by Brian.
746
00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:16,668
But then he ended up
working Bischoff.
747
00:32:16,717 --> 00:32:20,157
I said, "Get him to give
you some kind of release."
748
00:32:20,199 --> 00:32:23,509
From his contract.
"From your contract."
749
00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:26,550
Brian says to Eric Bischoff,
"If you fire me,
750
00:32:26,596 --> 00:32:29,206
and then I bust out on TV
the week afterwards and
751
00:32:29,251 --> 00:32:32,211
people will know this has
just gone out of control."
752
00:32:32,254 --> 00:32:34,004
"The people in the office,
the book keepers,
753
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,389
whatever, if they see that
I'm still under contract,
754
00:32:36,432 --> 00:32:37,872
they're gonna tell Dave.
755
00:32:37,912 --> 00:32:39,912
And then everyone's gonna
know that it's all a work.
756
00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,698
So, you have to
really fire me."
757
00:32:41,742 --> 00:32:44,142
"If you give me this
legitimate termination letter,
758
00:32:44,179 --> 00:32:45,959
then I can show it
to everybody and I can say,
759
00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:48,527
'Look at what the guy did!
Can you believe this?
760
00:32:48,575 --> 00:32:51,005
Can you believe he
fired me?'"
761
00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:54,276
He did!
He gave him a release.
762
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,240
So, he was then free to
negotiate with Vince McMahon
763
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,150
and the WWF against
Eric Bischoff and WCW so
764
00:33:02,197 --> 00:33:05,287
he could get a better deal,
all because Bischoff thought
765
00:33:05,331 --> 00:33:08,861
he was working with Brian to
create this "illusion" and
766
00:33:08,899 --> 00:33:10,769
Brian was actually
working Bischoff
767
00:33:10,814 --> 00:33:12,904
to create his own illusion.
768
00:33:12,947 --> 00:33:15,167
♪
769
00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:16,390
Dude, I mean...
770
00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:17,779
how do you do that?
771
00:33:17,821 --> 00:33:21,831
How-- I don't know anybody
else that ever did that.
772
00:33:21,869 --> 00:33:23,609
Yeah, stroke of genius.
773
00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:25,183
I mean, it was a
legitimate termination,
774
00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:27,660
but it was a
legitimate termination...
775
00:33:27,701 --> 00:33:29,361
with a wink and a nod.
776
00:33:29,398 --> 00:33:31,788
I said, "Brian, go to WWF.
777
00:33:31,835 --> 00:33:33,185
I can't give you
what you want.
778
00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:35,838
Get yourself over there so
that when you come back,
779
00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:38,153
and I promise you,
I will bring you back,
780
00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:40,580
it'll give me the ability to
pay you more 'cause
781
00:33:40,627 --> 00:33:43,367
you've raised your own value."
782
00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:45,412
In his world,
it's his stunt.
783
00:33:45,458 --> 00:33:48,898
He is flattered that he's
the guy that's pulling the
784
00:33:48,939 --> 00:33:52,469
great stunt, even though he
was the power to begin with!
785
00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:55,948
For anyone to suggest...
786
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:58,470
that the Loose Cannon
character was designed to
787
00:33:58,514 --> 00:34:02,524
manipulate me into giving
Brian Pillman more money,
788
00:34:02,562 --> 00:34:05,612
when in fact, Brian Pillman
and I discussed how to make
789
00:34:05,652 --> 00:34:08,872
this character work even
better so that at some point
790
00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:12,696
I could give him the money,
it kind of flies in the face
791
00:34:12,746 --> 00:34:15,096
of the rumours
and the innuendo.
792
00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:17,190
Oh, man, that's the
greatest thing you can do.
793
00:34:17,229 --> 00:34:19,709
If you can fuck somebody
over and have them think
794
00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:22,153
that it's a great idea,
that's...
795
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:24,370
you know, ha, I mean,
that's the trick of
796
00:34:24,410 --> 00:34:26,020
breaking up with a woman,
you know,
797
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:28,114
make her think
that it's her idea.
798
00:34:28,153 --> 00:34:30,943
♪
799
00:34:34,637 --> 00:34:37,207
As a free agent,
Brian takes charge of
800
00:34:37,249 --> 00:34:39,289
his own appearances
and publicity.
801
00:34:39,338 --> 00:34:42,648
His insider knowledge,
mastery of manipulation,
802
00:34:42,689 --> 00:34:46,039
and disregard for exposing
the industry solidifies
803
00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,524
his position as the
ultimate ring master.
804
00:34:48,564 --> 00:34:51,484
In the wrestling war
layout at the time,
805
00:34:51,524 --> 00:34:54,964
the fans knew one thing:
if you are really working
806
00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:58,835
for one promotion, you can't
appear for any of the others.
807
00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:02,669
Tonight will be one of
the most extreme hours of
808
00:35:02,709 --> 00:35:05,359
wrestling with--
and wait a minute...
809
00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:07,407
One of the things with
trying to prove it was real
810
00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,803
is that WCW hated ECW so,
811
00:35:09,846 --> 00:35:12,366
Brian must be on
the outs with WCW.
812
00:35:12,414 --> 00:35:14,764
[cheering]
813
00:35:14,808 --> 00:35:18,898
Renegade promotion ECW is
gaining traction for pushing
814
00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:21,822
the boundaries of wrestling,
and is the perfect stage for
815
00:35:21,858 --> 00:35:24,508
the Loose Cannon's
unpredictable antics.
816
00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:27,037
He could curse, he could
say off-colour things.
817
00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:31,391
Eric Bischoff is each
and every one
818
00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:33,703
of these motherfucking...
819
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:37,090
smart marks rolled up
into one
820
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,435
giant piece of shit!
821
00:35:39,485 --> 00:35:42,965
I thought Brian
was losing his mind,
822
00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:45,270
as opposed to being,
you know, brilliant.
823
00:35:45,317 --> 00:35:48,227
I loved it. I was just nothing
but entertained by it.
824
00:35:48,276 --> 00:35:50,056
[cheering]
825
00:35:50,104 --> 00:35:53,024
Damn near whipped it out and
was gonna piss in the ring...
826
00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:55,683
that's a pretty
strong statement.
827
00:35:55,718 --> 00:35:57,808
And, pardon my language,
I was like, man,
828
00:35:57,851 --> 00:35:59,421
this motherfucker's
out there.
829
00:35:59,461 --> 00:36:01,161
You know, and I mean
that in a good way.
830
00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:02,552
Get him the
hell out of here.
831
00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:04,855
This stuff was
working on both levels.
832
00:36:04,901 --> 00:36:07,471
The fans who weren't inside,
they just thought that
833
00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:10,913
he was crazy and he was doing
wild over-the-top things,
834
00:36:10,951 --> 00:36:14,041
but for the fans who did
know the inside terminology
835
00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:16,834
or were with the secrets,
they were like,
836
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:19,310
they can't be
allowing him to do that.
837
00:36:19,351 --> 00:36:20,961
Oh!
838
00:36:21,004 --> 00:36:22,754
When he would have a
television appearance,
839
00:36:22,789 --> 00:36:25,439
it would be arranged so
that it didn't look like
840
00:36:25,487 --> 00:36:27,007
he was supposed to be there.
841
00:36:27,054 --> 00:36:29,364
Or, he was doing something
he wasn't supposed to be doing.
842
00:36:29,404 --> 00:36:32,064
One time, he even to protest
the matches that he'd
843
00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:34,932
been given, he wrestled
a giant pencil because
844
00:36:34,975 --> 00:36:36,755
pencil in inside wrestling
knowledge was
845
00:36:36,803 --> 00:36:38,463
another name for the booker.
846
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:40,810
I always end up
fighting with the pencil.
847
00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:42,460
And then he's showing up
and doing
848
00:36:42,504 --> 00:36:44,164
these funny little vignettes.
849
00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,382
He's got one, he's cooking,
850
00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:47,990
and flames are going out
of the frying pan.
851
00:36:48,031 --> 00:36:50,901
And they hired a
woman with a baby,
852
00:36:50,947 --> 00:36:52,857
and then the guy
comes to punch Pillman,
853
00:36:52,906 --> 00:36:54,906
and he grabs the baby and
holds the baby up
854
00:36:54,951 --> 00:36:56,481
in front of him.
855
00:36:56,518 --> 00:36:58,088
You scum!
You piece of--
856
00:36:58,128 --> 00:37:01,128
And I never once
called Brian and said,
857
00:37:01,175 --> 00:37:04,085
"Hey, dude, are you working?
Are you shooting?"
858
00:37:04,134 --> 00:37:06,274
You know, because I
didn't want to know.
859
00:37:06,311 --> 00:37:09,011
But I thought what he was
doing was damn sure brilliant.
860
00:37:09,052 --> 00:37:11,492
Some people think my
dad was crazy and then,
861
00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:12,883
you know,
other people are like,
862
00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:15,146
you know, "Your dad was,"
you know, "not crazy.
863
00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:16,539
That was just a gimmick."
864
00:37:16,582 --> 00:37:18,932
And a lot of people say
he kind of fell into that,
865
00:37:18,975 --> 00:37:21,755
like, they couldn't, they
couldn't decipher if it was--
866
00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:23,634
is this Brian Pillman now?
867
00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:26,106
Or, you know, like,
is he still in character?
868
00:37:26,156 --> 00:37:27,716
Or is this just how he is?
869
00:37:27,767 --> 00:37:31,207
It's all just their
perception of reality.
870
00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,989
It was just like this,
this blur between,
871
00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:36,124
like, what is
actually going on?
872
00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:37,556
Like, you don't
even know anymore,
873
00:37:37,603 --> 00:37:39,433
but that was,
like, the magic of it.
874
00:37:39,474 --> 00:37:42,564
There was a lot of
Andy Kaufman in, in Brian.
875
00:37:42,608 --> 00:37:44,518
The Loose Cannon
became Brian,
876
00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:46,866
that was who he was.
877
00:37:46,916 --> 00:37:48,476
Brian was a renegade.
878
00:37:48,527 --> 00:37:50,357
Brian was a little
bit of an outlaw.
879
00:37:50,398 --> 00:37:52,918
Again, remember, when you're
not the biggest dog
880
00:37:52,966 --> 00:37:56,616
of the litter, and you got
that gravelly voice...
881
00:37:56,665 --> 00:37:59,355
you've had 30, plus,
throat operations
882
00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:02,277
when you're a small child,
you get an attitude.
883
00:38:02,323 --> 00:38:04,503
I said this many times,
the greatest wrestlers
884
00:38:04,543 --> 00:38:08,293
I've ever worked with are
essentially natural,
885
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:11,719
organic extensions of
their own personality.
886
00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:14,337
And the Loose Cannon
was just that.
887
00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:17,119
I think the message that
Brian showing up at ECW
888
00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:18,604
sent to the other
two companies is,
889
00:38:18,644 --> 00:38:20,994
he was a free agent, that
he was a gun slinger and
890
00:38:21,037 --> 00:38:22,337
he'd go to the highest bidder.
891
00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:23,647
Vince is watching.
892
00:38:23,692 --> 00:38:25,132
It's the hottest
thing in wrestling.
893
00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:26,742
The only one that really
knew what was going on
894
00:38:26,782 --> 00:38:29,612
was Dave Meltzer. I said, "Hey,
we have to tell Meltzer."
895
00:38:29,655 --> 00:38:32,135
I value his friendship more
than I value--
896
00:38:32,179 --> 00:38:33,919
you know, any of this shit.
897
00:38:33,963 --> 00:38:35,403
Something happened
and I called up Kim,
898
00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:37,883
and I go, "Oh, god,
Brian's... Brian's in trouble."
899
00:38:37,924 --> 00:38:40,014
He just goes, you know,
like, "Brian...
900
00:38:40,056 --> 00:38:41,576
you know,
Brian's doing this.
901
00:38:41,623 --> 00:38:43,633
He's, he's come up
with a character,
902
00:38:43,669 --> 00:38:45,629
and he's-- you gotta
work everybody."
903
00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:47,371
And Brian goes,
"What do I do with Dave?"
904
00:38:47,412 --> 00:38:49,762
And he goes, "You don't
talk to Dave because
905
00:38:49,805 --> 00:38:51,235
if you tell him,
906
00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:54,375
then he's gonna have to say it
because that's his role.
907
00:38:54,419 --> 00:38:56,379
And, I don't want
you lying to him."
908
00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:59,121
So, literally, like,
he didn't talk to me for
909
00:38:59,162 --> 00:39:01,472
a couple months there.
Oh, yeah, without a doubt,
910
00:39:01,513 --> 00:39:03,953
he wanted to fool me with
the character.
911
00:39:03,993 --> 00:39:06,433
And he did for a while.
912
00:39:06,474 --> 00:39:08,744
And again,
who are the real marks?
913
00:39:08,781 --> 00:39:12,961
Who are the ultimate marks?
Bischoff, and then we got Vince.
914
00:39:13,002 --> 00:39:15,922
Vince McMahon was then
as he is now the
915
00:39:15,962 --> 00:39:19,752
undisputed leader, ruler,
manipulator, organizer,
916
00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:22,362
and owner of World
Wrestling Entertainment.
917
00:39:24,927 --> 00:39:26,407
- Vince?
- Yeah, you.
918
00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:28,321
Yeah, what do you-- You know
what you do with a whore?
919
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:31,366
You fuck 'em.
920
00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:33,022
That's, that's what
I thought of Vince,
921
00:39:33,066 --> 00:39:36,976
that's how I think of Vince.
922
00:39:37,026 --> 00:39:39,806
As Brian becomes the talk
of the wrestling world,
923
00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:43,075
it's time for the final step
of his master plan:
924
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,689
track down and
secure the attention
925
00:39:45,731 --> 00:39:47,911
of wrestling's biggest
power player.
926
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:50,300
♪
927
00:39:54,522 --> 00:39:57,312
In perhaps his
boldest stunt yet,
928
00:39:57,351 --> 00:39:59,881
Brian Pillman plots to
get the attention of
929
00:39:59,919 --> 00:40:03,399
Vince McMahon at an insider
industry tradeshow in
930
00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:06,584
Las Vegas, the last place
anyone would expect
931
00:40:06,621 --> 00:40:08,801
to see the Loose Cannon.
932
00:40:08,841 --> 00:40:11,151
Okay, so I'm in Vegas.
933
00:40:11,191 --> 00:40:14,281
I was in there and
I was leaving and,
934
00:40:14,324 --> 00:40:16,894
Brian's coming and Brian's
in full gimmick at this point.
935
00:40:16,936 --> 00:40:19,546
And then, I see him,
"Hey, Dave." Whatever.
936
00:40:19,591 --> 00:40:22,071
I'm leaving, he goes,
"Can I get your credential?"
937
00:40:22,115 --> 00:40:23,725
And I go, "Yeah, here.
Here's my credential."
938
00:40:23,769 --> 00:40:26,859
And he went in and
makes a beeline for
939
00:40:26,902 --> 00:40:29,472
Jim Ross and Vince McMahon.
940
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:32,604
He had an idea to be
the most outrageous,
941
00:40:32,647 --> 00:40:35,077
outlandish, over-the-top
character that
942
00:40:35,128 --> 00:40:37,518
Vince McMahon had ever met.
943
00:40:37,565 --> 00:40:40,085
He's gonna try to get
Vince McMahon's attention.
944
00:40:40,133 --> 00:40:41,533
Doing his whole
Brian Pillman,
945
00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:44,089
"Hey, Vince, ah-dah-dah,
hey, let's take a picture!"
946
00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:47,307
"Vince McMahon!
Motherfucker! God almighty!"
947
00:40:47,357 --> 00:40:48,837
"It's the greatest thing
in the world
948
00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:51,271
I got a chance to meet ya!
Can I get the arm around..."
949
00:40:51,318 --> 00:40:53,058
Somebody takes a picture.
950
00:40:53,102 --> 00:40:54,932
And Vince is like,
"Who is this guy?"
951
00:40:54,974 --> 00:40:56,414
He made an impression.
952
00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:58,414
You didn't know whether he
was a homicidal maniac or
953
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,806
just a guy that
was having fun.
954
00:41:00,849 --> 00:41:02,979
McMahon thought, "We can't
hire this guy, JR.
955
00:41:03,025 --> 00:41:05,025
We can't hire this guy, JR.
He's crazy."
956
00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:08,121
I said, "He's crazy like a fox."
"What do you mean?"
957
00:41:08,161 --> 00:41:09,821
"Well, he told me
what he was gonna do."
958
00:41:09,858 --> 00:41:13,078
"He did?"
"Yeah, he's creative.
959
00:41:13,122 --> 00:41:15,212
He's bold. He's kind of
like you are, Vince.
960
00:41:15,255 --> 00:41:16,735
He'll take a chance."
961
00:41:16,778 --> 00:41:18,868
Brian's balls at that
point and that day,
962
00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:20,611
would probably fit
in a wheelbarrow.
963
00:41:20,652 --> 00:41:22,742
And dude, you work
Vince McMahon, you know,
964
00:41:22,784 --> 00:41:25,534
especially back in the day,
pretty good rib.
965
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:27,310
And got his attention, too.
966
00:41:27,354 --> 00:41:29,574
It was, it was
pretty frickin' genius,
967
00:41:29,617 --> 00:41:31,397
what he was doing.
968
00:41:31,445 --> 00:41:33,875
But, but, he wanted to stay
in WCW 'cause
969
00:41:33,926 --> 00:41:35,836
WWF didn't offer
guaranteed money.
970
00:41:35,884 --> 00:41:38,894
And also, Vince was always
pushing the bigger guys so,
971
00:41:38,931 --> 00:41:41,411
Brian always felt that
WCW was his company and
972
00:41:41,455 --> 00:41:43,195
the company he would do
the best in anyway.
973
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,329
People go, like, "Oh,
"he did this manipulation
974
00:41:45,372 --> 00:41:46,852
of his contract to go to WWF."
975
00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:49,505
No, he did the manipulation
of his contract to be able
976
00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:52,250
to negotiate with WWF to
raise his money with WCW.
977
00:41:52,292 --> 00:41:55,472
Brian's bold plan is
a success as he is in
978
00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:58,563
negotiations for major
contracts with both
979
00:41:58,603 --> 00:42:01,133
WCW and WWF.
980
00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:04,430
All he has to do is
choose the right path.
981
00:42:07,742 --> 00:42:09,312
No, it's money!
982
00:42:09,352 --> 00:42:10,882
That's the
bottom fucking line!
983
00:42:10,919 --> 00:42:12,399
It's money!
984
00:42:12,442 --> 00:42:14,582
And these people
are in fantasy land.
985
00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:17,269
And it's money.
986
00:42:17,317 --> 00:42:19,187
The only problem is...
987
00:42:19,232 --> 00:42:23,282
like the Hebrew saying,
988
00:42:23,323 --> 00:42:27,413
"Man plans and God laughs".
989
00:42:27,457 --> 00:42:29,717
We're talking and it's
always about, you know,
990
00:42:29,764 --> 00:42:31,074
"I gotta save money,
I gotta save money,"
991
00:42:31,113 --> 00:42:33,293
and then he buys an
$80,000 Humvee.
992
00:42:33,333 --> 00:42:35,643
I couldn't
fathom the idea of,
993
00:42:35,683 --> 00:42:38,603
I've got 5 kids, I've gotta
make money now,
994
00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:41,123
I've gotta save money,
and then buying a Humvee.
995
00:42:41,167 --> 00:42:42,687
[sighs] God.
996
00:42:42,734 --> 00:42:45,824
He would drive that wherever
Brian wanted to drive that.
997
00:42:45,867 --> 00:42:48,037
He didn't want to
sit at the stop light,
998
00:42:48,087 --> 00:42:50,657
he drove down a gully and
up the other side
999
00:42:50,698 --> 00:42:52,048
in that Hummer.
1000
00:42:52,091 --> 00:42:54,701
He didn't, you know,
follow the rules.
1001
00:42:54,746 --> 00:42:57,576
I was actually in Miami,
modeling,
1002
00:42:57,618 --> 00:43:00,448
but I called to
check on the kids and,
1003
00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:01,880
the neighbour
across the street,
1004
00:43:01,927 --> 00:43:03,617
I called her 'cause I
didn't get an answer,
1005
00:43:03,668 --> 00:43:08,318
and she said, "My God, I just
passed the Hummer and
1006
00:43:08,368 --> 00:43:10,888
little Brian's car seat's
out in the middle of the yard
1007
00:43:10,936 --> 00:43:13,326
and big Brian's being flown
to the hospital."
1008
00:43:13,373 --> 00:43:23,253
♪
1009
00:43:23,296 --> 00:43:25,386
I remember he
flippedit, rolled it.
1010
00:43:25,428 --> 00:43:26,818
It was severe.
1011
00:43:26,865 --> 00:43:29,075
The wreck happened
during the negotiations.
1012
00:43:29,128 --> 00:43:30,558
They're getting
damaged goods.
1013
00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:32,958
It was truly the deal of,
you can get on the
1014
00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:35,531
tiger's back, but how
do you get off?
1015
00:43:35,569 --> 00:43:37,009
Fate figured that out.
1016
00:43:37,049 --> 00:43:39,229
There'd been a lot
of wrestler deaths,
1017
00:43:39,268 --> 00:43:41,968
but not of a guy who was
actually on the way to
1018
00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:43,530
the show at that moment.
1019
00:43:43,577 --> 00:43:45,407
It's like if Brian could
just see the future and
1020
00:43:45,448 --> 00:43:46,798
what happened,
Brian would have just,
1021
00:43:46,841 --> 00:43:50,191
"Fuck, oh my god.
No drugs, no nothing."
1022
00:43:50,236 --> 00:43:51,716
I know it would have
scared him straight.
1023
00:43:51,759 --> 00:43:54,369
It's crazy how you go
from having a silver platter
1024
00:43:54,414 --> 00:43:56,294
growing up to not
even knowing
1025
00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:58,419
when your next meal
is going to be.
1026
00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:03,019
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