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ERIN:
Okay, this is it.
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KATHY (over phone):
We're broadcasting on WQTI,
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streaming on WQTI.org.
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The name of our live podcast
is Justice Denied.
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Our guest is Jeffrey Durning,
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distinguished heart surgeon,
philanthropist,
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and defendant in one of the most
sensational murder trials
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of the decade.
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Jeffrey, thanks
for joining us.
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JEFFREY: Thank you
for having me on, Kathy.
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Oh, please,
give me a break.
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You know they can't
hear you, right?
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KATHY: I must admit,
I feel a little strange
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talking to you.
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The last time we saw each other
was a year ago in the courtroom
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when I was prosecuting you
for killing your wife Beth.
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JEFFREY: I'm glad you had
the courage to re-examine
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the evidence and come to
a more honest conclusion,
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which is more than I can say
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for some of your
former colleagues.
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Yeah, well,
if he's so honest,
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how come you're
hiding from us,
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and telling your story on the
air instead of in a courtroom?
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The first trial ended
in a hung jury,
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so tell me, why do you think
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the Manhattan D.A.'s office
is coming after you again?
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Maybe because
you killed your wife
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and you dumped her body
from a plane over the Atlantic?
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JEFFREY: Obviously,
the office has had a series
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of high-profile disasters.
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They're looking for
a rich, white man's scalp
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to make up for them.
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Of course, now we have
my old friend
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Erin Reagan saying
she has new evidence,
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but like your wife's body,
no one has seen it.
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Police!
Come on, out of the way.
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Move! Get out of the way.
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Oh, it looks like
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we have some surprise
guests joining us.
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We're gonna take a break.
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(taps on glass)
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Where is he?
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Obviously not
on the premises.
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(car alarm blaring)
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Oh, my God,
I hate these things!
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Aren't they supposed to shut off
after three minutes?
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It's an older model; I guess
the guy didn't get the message
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he needed to get it fixed.
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Or that he needs to move
the car for street cleaning.
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How long has it been here?
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A couple days at least, right?
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Excuse me, ma'am!
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(car alarm continues blaring)
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You know whose car this is?
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Hey, handsome.
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What's it worth
to you?
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(chuckles)
Well...
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My tenant,
Harry Clark.
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I keep telling him
he needs a new car.
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I know he can afford it.
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Would you have
him come down?
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I would, if I'd seen him lately.
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Ma'am, do you notice that
smell inside your apartment?
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No.
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But my nose stopped working
years ago.
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Too much fun
in the '70s.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Come we come take a look?
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Sure. Come on in.
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Ugh.
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Ma'am, can you please
wait outside?
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(gags)
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(coughs)
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(groans)
Eddie, he's in here.
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Oh, he's ripe.
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(groans)
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(coughs)
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(groans)
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It's been a few days, huh?
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Oh.
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Poor Harry.
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Ma'am, I asked you to wait outside.
Aw.
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Is this Harry Clark, ma'am?
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Yeah.
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Although, come to think of it,
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I'm not sure
that's his real name.
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What do you mean?
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I never saw a bank check
with his name on it.
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Always paid the
rent in cash.
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And some of his mail came
with different names on it.
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Do you have a next of kin
we can contact?
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No. No one ever
visited him.
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Uh, Eddie, see if you can
find some Vicks.
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The smell's starting
to get to me.
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I may have some.
Thank you, ma'am.
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We're all set, thank you.
Oh.
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Well, if you need me
for anything, just call me.
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And, you, just call me.
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Okay.
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(exhales)
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Good to see you, Nick.
You're looking well.
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Thank you. You, too.
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Thanks for this.
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Yeah.
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How's the family?
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Good.
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Yours?
Grown up and out.
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Your son, kind of a hothead,
whatever happened to him?
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Detective, first grade.
Oh.
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And the other one,
going to Harvard?
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On the job as well,
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and my daughter Erin
works for the D.A.'s office.
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It's nice having
a family business, huh?
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It is.
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You know, Frank, when I heard
that you got your father's job,
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I was happy
to hear that.
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They gave it to the right man.
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Thank you.
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Tyrell Dawes,
come on in.
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Sit down.
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You know why you're here?
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My parole officer said
I should come by here,
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but I didn't have to by law.
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This is your Offender
Notification Forum.
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We hold them for people
who just got out of prison
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with a high risk
of going back.
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Come on, man, what do
you got, a crystal ball?
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You're a gang member
who just did three and a half
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for committing a robbery
with a handgun
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in New York City.
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(scoffs) Come on, man.
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What do you got, an extra
eight-by-ten for my moms?
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Turn it over.
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What's "15" mean?
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if you commit another crime
with a gun.
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And that's a hard number;
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there won't be
any pleading it down.
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It's up to you, Tyrell.
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None of y'all know me.
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None of y'al know where
I've been or where I'm going.
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Yeah, we do.
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You want to tell him
or should I?
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May I?
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I am here for
the same reason that you are,
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because the commissioner
asked me to be here,
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and because I just finished
a 20-year bid of my own
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in the state prison.
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I could still be in that prison.
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I killed someone
who threatened my family.
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Commissioner Reagan,
who at that time
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was Detective Reagan,
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could've buried me.
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But he didn't.
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He gave me a fair shake.
So I listened to him.
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Man, is this real?
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Every word.
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(sighs)
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(exhales)
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(panting)
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Look at this.
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They're all $100 bills. There's gotta
be ten of thousand of dollars in here.
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Eddie, I wouldn't be
touching that.
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"Dear Sandi, I am so sorry
about everything.
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Maybe the rest of this money
will help."
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What's he got
to be sorry for?
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Yeah, and who was he?
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d Blue Bloods 6x18 d
Town Without Pity
Original Air Date on April 1, 2016
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== sync, corrected by elderman ==
@elder_man
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d d
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(groaning)
DANNY: What do we got?
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Four wounded.
One serious and likely to die.
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Shootout inside the diner.
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One of the rounds went
through the front window.
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The likely is
an Alex Kalamogdartis.
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Kala-what?
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I don't know,
it's Greek.
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Okay, what about
the other three vics?
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Two of them
were other customers,
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and the third was a 12-year-old
boy walking by outside
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with his family.
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Don't ask me
to pronounce his name.
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Okay, so we got a gang war at
a greasy spoon. Any witnesses?
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Well, no one's talking about
why it jumped off tonight.
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We do know this Alex
may have had a dispute
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with the management.
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Any actual witnesses
to the shooting?
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Not so much.
Hey, boss.
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Everyone's saying how it was
too dark to see anything.
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Too dark in a
brightly lit diner?
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Well, they've been
renting it out
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as pop-up nightclub
sometimes.
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The current owner
is over there,
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Stavros Constantine.
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Hey, Stavros.
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Hey! Want to tell us
what this is about?
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I mean, I have no idea.
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We've never had any trouble
on club nights before.
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Oh, well, can't imagine
people shooting your place up
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if all you're doing
is serving moussaka.
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Listen, I'm as confused
as you are, okay?
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One minute, I'm in the back
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making sure we got enough
champagne for bottle service,
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and the next,
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bang, bang, bang, it's all hell
is breaking loose.
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So you're trying
to tell us
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you don't know anything
about this Alex Kala-what?
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...mogdartis.
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Kalamogdartis.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
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Of course I know
Alex Kalamogdartis.
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It's like the Trojan War
with our families.
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What's that mean?
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He's been trying
to take over our diner.
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Mm-hmm.
But he's been doing that
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to a lot of local businesses;
he's a thug.
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And you have no idea
who shot him.
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I'm afraid I-I can't help you.
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Can't or won't?
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Okay, well,
we're gonna assume
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that you don't have
a cabaret license
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for this little nightclub
of yours,
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so here's what we're gonna do.
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You're gonna get your hands
out of your pocket,
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and then you're gonna
take a ride with us.
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See if that jogs
your memory. Come on.
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(groans) So what?
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Now that the supervisors
have been and gone,
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we just have to sit here,
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safeguard the place until
the public administrator
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comes and starts to try to make
inventory of all this?
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Real-life police work, Eddie.
232
00:10:00,949 --> 00:10:03,049
It's not all
paperwork and donuts.
233
00:10:03,051 --> 00:10:05,185
(chuckles)
234
00:10:05,187 --> 00:10:07,954
You know, we turned over
a lot of money yesterday,
235
00:10:07,956 --> 00:10:09,856
and there's still
no next of kin.
236
00:10:09,858 --> 00:10:12,525
Some of this junk lying around
might be worth something.
237
00:10:12,527 --> 00:10:14,961
Bosses just want us
to keep an eye on it
238
00:10:14,963 --> 00:10:17,430
till things get settled.
239
00:10:17,432 --> 00:10:20,734
Yeah, well, hey, can we
open a window, please?
240
00:10:20,736 --> 00:10:22,469
The guy's gone,
but that stink is
241
00:10:22,471 --> 00:10:24,637
very much still here.
242
00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:31,044
You know,
243
00:10:31,046 --> 00:10:33,446
Harry must have been
hiding from something.
244
00:10:33,448 --> 00:10:36,182
Or someone.
245
00:10:36,184 --> 00:10:38,618
Sounds like he's been
locked up in this apartment
246
00:10:38,620 --> 00:10:40,053
the last 25 years.
247
00:10:43,525 --> 00:10:45,091
Hey, Jamie,
do you remember
248
00:10:45,093 --> 00:10:47,961
the New York
Benefactors' Trust robbery?
249
00:10:47,963 --> 00:10:50,630
1992, $21 million stolen.
250
00:10:50,632 --> 00:10:52,298
Yeah, biggest heist
in the city's history.
251
00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:54,501
Most of it never recovered.
252
00:10:56,605 --> 00:11:00,106
Keep finding all these clippings
that Harry kept about it.
253
00:11:02,911 --> 00:11:05,311
Jamie, you don't think...
254
00:11:05,313 --> 00:11:06,980
(sighs)
255
00:11:22,898 --> 00:11:25,632
Should we order first
or argue first?
256
00:11:25,634 --> 00:11:27,634
I'm happy to get
business out of the way.
257
00:11:27,636 --> 00:11:29,769
We have an arrest warrant
for Jeffrey Durning,
258
00:11:29,771 --> 00:11:31,504
and I want to know
where he is.
259
00:11:31,506 --> 00:11:33,239
What if I told you I don't know?
260
00:11:33,241 --> 00:11:34,707
Except that he's somewhere
in Europe.
261
00:11:34,709 --> 00:11:36,509
I wouldn't believe you.
262
00:11:36,511 --> 00:11:38,111
This isn't about me.
263
00:11:38,113 --> 00:11:39,779
It's about the facts
of the case.
264
00:11:39,781 --> 00:11:41,681
Right after the trial,
265
00:11:41,683 --> 00:11:46,619
I started hearing from witnesses
that Beth might still be alive.
266
00:11:46,621 --> 00:11:49,122
She was a very
unstable woman, Erin.
267
00:11:49,124 --> 00:11:51,024
We are going to retry this case.
268
00:11:51,026 --> 00:11:52,992
We just need him
back in custody.
269
00:11:52,994 --> 00:11:55,929
Obviously, you're worried
about losing this case
270
00:11:55,931 --> 00:11:58,198
in a court of public opinion
before it goes to trial.
271
00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,499
If you have new evidence,
272
00:11:59,501 --> 00:12:01,367
why don't you come on my show
to talk about it?
273
00:12:01,369 --> 00:12:03,703
How about this?
274
00:12:03,705 --> 00:12:06,539
I have you subpoenaed and
brought before the grand jury,
275
00:12:06,541 --> 00:12:08,675
and if you don't answer the
questions, I will ask the judge
276
00:12:08,677 --> 00:12:10,176
to hold you in contempt.
277
00:12:10,178 --> 00:12:11,411
You'll never win.
278
00:12:11,413 --> 00:12:12,579
Classic First Amendment case.
279
00:12:12,581 --> 00:12:15,048
But I don't have to
tell you that, do I?
280
00:12:16,184 --> 00:12:17,951
(sighs)
281
00:12:19,821 --> 00:12:21,554
Good luck, Erin.
282
00:12:21,556 --> 00:12:24,791
I guess I wasn't
all that hungry anyway.
283
00:12:24,793 --> 00:12:26,492
But maybe you are.
284
00:12:37,105 --> 00:12:39,339
(indistinct chatter,
phones ringing)
285
00:12:44,346 --> 00:12:46,880
You weren't 100% honest with us
last night, were you?
286
00:12:46,882 --> 00:12:49,115
What do you mean?
287
00:12:49,117 --> 00:12:50,116
I think you had more than
288
00:12:50,118 --> 00:12:52,252
breakfast, lunch and dinner
on the menu.
289
00:12:52,254 --> 00:12:53,486
Alex K is a known
drug dealer.
290
00:12:53,488 --> 00:12:54,954
He came to your place
with a beef.
291
00:12:54,956 --> 00:12:56,456
Now, you're trying
to tell me
292
00:12:56,458 --> 00:12:59,425
that if we bring the dogs in,
they're not gonna find anything?
293
00:12:59,427 --> 00:13:00,827
I'm no drug dealer.
294
00:13:00,829 --> 00:13:02,362
I run a family business.
295
00:13:02,364 --> 00:13:04,998
Okay, well, maybe you wouldn't
let him sell drugs in your club,
296
00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,666
and that's why he had a beef.
297
00:13:08,036 --> 00:13:09,969
Come on, help me
understand here.
298
00:13:09,971 --> 00:13:11,871
(knocking on door)
299
00:13:11,873 --> 00:13:13,039
(sighs)
300
00:13:15,710 --> 00:13:18,011
Finally got a couple
of witness statements
301
00:13:18,013 --> 00:13:20,914
and a photo from
a parking lot camera.
302
00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,254
(whispers):
Good work.
303
00:13:29,557 --> 00:13:31,524
Hmm.
What's up?
304
00:13:31,526 --> 00:13:34,761
You know, I'm thinking,
if you didn't fire the shots,
305
00:13:34,763 --> 00:13:36,930
then you definitely know
who did.
306
00:13:36,932 --> 00:13:38,097
Who's this?
307
00:13:41,002 --> 00:13:42,669
I don't know.
308
00:13:42,671 --> 00:13:44,003
You want to keep your business?
309
00:13:44,005 --> 00:13:45,171
You're gonna take another look
310
00:13:45,173 --> 00:13:47,106
and give me an honest answer
this time.
311
00:13:47,108 --> 00:13:49,108
Come on.
312
00:13:49,110 --> 00:13:51,277
Come on! Who is it?!
313
00:13:56,918 --> 00:13:59,385
It's my father.
314
00:14:04,793 --> 00:14:06,326
FRANK:
Nick Constantine
315
00:14:06,328 --> 00:14:08,628
is hardly a friend;
I arrested him once.
316
00:14:08,630 --> 00:14:09,629
Not just that.
317
00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:10,897
Your testimony at his trial...
318
00:14:10,899 --> 00:14:12,899
Was entirely truthful.
319
00:14:12,901 --> 00:14:14,033
And helpful to the defense.
320
00:14:14,035 --> 00:14:15,935
And now that
same person
321
00:14:15,937 --> 00:14:18,571
was present, arguably
with motive, at the scene
322
00:14:18,573 --> 00:14:19,906
of a shooting and
can't be found.
323
00:14:19,908 --> 00:14:21,040
Am I, in some way, suggesting
324
00:14:21,042 --> 00:14:22,642
we give him a head start?
No, boss.
325
00:14:22,644 --> 00:14:24,110
Then what's your point?
326
00:14:24,112 --> 00:14:26,579
That old media has
handed down the perception
327
00:14:26,581 --> 00:14:28,715
that you pulled punches
when you testified at his trial.
328
00:14:28,717 --> 00:14:30,917
And two days ago,
he was at your side
329
00:14:30,919 --> 00:14:32,785
at an
Offender's Notification Forum
330
00:14:32,787 --> 00:14:34,654
in the role of model ex-con.
331
00:14:34,656 --> 00:14:36,556
I tell you what,
you manage the perception,
332
00:14:36,558 --> 00:14:37,957
I'll manage my department.
333
00:14:37,959 --> 00:14:39,859
Less than a month ago,
you came out strong
334
00:14:39,861 --> 00:14:41,527
against the mayor's
Fresh Start program.
335
00:14:41,529 --> 00:14:42,395
This isn't that.
336
00:14:42,397 --> 00:14:44,797
Not your call,
all due respect.
337
00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:46,366
You need to distance yourself
from the appearance
338
00:14:46,368 --> 00:14:48,401
that you've put your eggs
in the Nick Constantine basket.
339
00:14:48,403 --> 00:14:50,903
A man does a wrong thing
once in his life,
340
00:14:50,905 --> 00:14:52,638
in this case,
for the right reason.
341
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,873
There is a part of me
342
00:14:53,875 --> 00:14:56,943
that believes that there can,
in fact, be a chance
343
00:14:56,945 --> 00:14:59,145
for a second act
in people's lives.
344
00:15:00,815 --> 00:15:02,281
Any idea where he's headed?
345
00:15:02,283 --> 00:15:04,884
We're tracking friends,
cell records and credit cards,
346
00:15:04,886 --> 00:15:06,419
but after 20 years,
347
00:15:06,421 --> 00:15:08,521
he doesn't have that much
of a network to plug into.
348
00:15:08,523 --> 00:15:10,223
Which means
he can't be that far.
349
00:15:10,225 --> 00:15:11,290
Let's make it clear
350
00:15:11,292 --> 00:15:12,992
that we're devoting
all our resources
351
00:15:12,994 --> 00:15:15,428
to hunting him down
and making sure he pays.
352
00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:17,590
In other words, grandstand
before all the facts are in.
353
00:15:18,666 --> 00:15:20,666
Is he even the prime suspect?
354
00:15:20,668 --> 00:15:23,603
Well, he's more than
a person of interest.
355
00:15:23,605 --> 00:15:26,472
Then let's just find him.
356
00:15:34,340 --> 00:15:36,674
Yeah. Yeah, thanks.
357
00:15:37,874 --> 00:15:39,707
Public administrator's
gonna be another day.
358
00:15:39,709 --> 00:15:41,209
They are backed up
and understaffed.
359
00:15:41,211 --> 00:15:44,112
Well, Jamie,
I just found more cash.
360
00:15:44,114 --> 00:15:45,446
Shouldn't we tell
361
00:15:45,448 --> 00:15:47,015
major case
this could all be connected
362
00:15:47,017 --> 00:15:48,383
to that bank robbery?
363
00:15:48,385 --> 00:15:49,851
I already put a call in.
364
00:15:49,853 --> 00:15:51,419
It's no longer
an active investigation.
365
00:15:51,421 --> 00:15:53,154
All the robbers
are either
366
00:15:53,156 --> 00:15:54,656
dead or in prison,
and the bank went under
367
00:15:54,658 --> 00:15:55,757
in the crash of '08.
368
00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:58,192
We got no reason to think
that Harry was involved
369
00:15:58,194 --> 00:15:59,427
other than the clippings.
370
00:15:59,429 --> 00:16:01,062
This cash could be legitimate.
371
00:16:01,064 --> 00:16:02,797
Well, then where did
all the money come from?
372
00:16:02,799 --> 00:16:04,065
Doesn't look like
this guy's had a job
373
00:16:04,067 --> 00:16:05,833
in a really long time.
374
00:16:05,835 --> 00:16:08,736
And why all this
dog stuff and no dog?
375
00:16:08,738 --> 00:16:11,472
Hey, we just walked in your
apartment, what would we find?
376
00:16:11,474 --> 00:16:13,574
Some laundry that
needs to be folded,
377
00:16:13,576 --> 00:16:16,344
couple unpaid bills, maybe
something in the DVD player
378
00:16:16,346 --> 00:16:17,845
I'd rather nobody find out.
379
00:16:17,847 --> 00:16:18,846
Really?
380
00:16:18,848 --> 00:16:20,615
The Little Mermaid.
381
00:16:20,617 --> 00:16:21,849
Oh.
382
00:16:21,851 --> 00:16:23,785
Jamie, I don't know.
383
00:16:23,787 --> 00:16:26,220
Part of me thinks this could be
an integrity test by IAB
384
00:16:26,222 --> 00:16:27,789
to see what we would
actually do.
385
00:16:27,791 --> 00:16:29,490
Do you know how crazy
that sounds?
386
00:16:29,492 --> 00:16:30,458
(scoffs)
387
00:16:30,460 --> 00:16:32,760
(knocking on door)
388
00:16:35,532 --> 00:16:37,065
Can I help you?
389
00:16:37,067 --> 00:16:39,167
Officer Jamie Reagan?
390
00:16:39,169 --> 00:16:42,470
You left
a message for me.
391
00:16:42,472 --> 00:16:43,838
About Harry Clark.
392
00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,273
I'm Sandi Harper.
393
00:16:45,275 --> 00:16:47,475
This is
my grandson, David.
394
00:16:47,477 --> 00:16:49,544
You knew him?
He was a friend?
395
00:16:49,546 --> 00:16:51,512
I knew him.
396
00:16:51,514 --> 00:16:55,149
I wouldn't say
he was a friend exactly.
397
00:16:55,151 --> 00:16:57,351
He just sent me money.
398
00:17:01,057 --> 00:17:03,391
Mindy, I don't know
what this is.
399
00:17:03,393 --> 00:17:06,027
You gave us a statement
that Jeffrey told you
400
00:17:06,029 --> 00:17:07,161
about killing his wife,
401
00:17:07,163 --> 00:17:08,963
and now you're just
trying to take it back?
402
00:17:10,266 --> 00:17:14,102
Jeffrey came to visit me
the other night.
403
00:17:14,104 --> 00:17:15,636
At my apartment.
404
00:17:15,638 --> 00:17:17,138
He's still in town?
405
00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:18,606
He heard that I was helping you
406
00:17:18,608 --> 00:17:21,142
and telling you the things
that he said about Beth
407
00:17:21,144 --> 00:17:22,410
and how she disappeared.
408
00:17:22,412 --> 00:17:24,378
Did he say
how he heard?
409
00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:27,915
It sounded like he had a source
that knew people at this office.
410
00:17:30,687 --> 00:17:33,521
He said that
I could disappear, too.
411
00:17:33,523 --> 00:17:34,856
Just like Beth.
412
00:17:34,858 --> 00:17:36,624
He directly threatened you?
413
00:17:36,626 --> 00:17:39,293
He made it clear
that it wouldn't be good for me.
414
00:17:39,295 --> 00:17:41,028
He called me
his little shark bait.
415
00:17:41,030 --> 00:17:42,563
Like it was a joke.
416
00:17:42,565 --> 00:17:44,899
And then he left.
417
00:17:44,901 --> 00:17:47,702
He thinks you guys
will never find him.
418
00:17:47,704 --> 00:17:51,372
I understand you're scared,
but we need your testimony.
419
00:17:51,374 --> 00:17:53,975
Otherwise, he's gonna go out
and do this to someone else.
420
00:17:53,977 --> 00:17:57,044
Seriously?
Like this is my fault?
421
00:17:58,114 --> 00:18:00,014
I tried to tell you people
about this before,
422
00:18:00,016 --> 00:18:01,015
and you wouldn't believe me.
423
00:18:01,017 --> 00:18:03,184
You tried to tell who?
424
00:18:03,186 --> 00:18:06,220
The prosecutor
who had this case before you.
425
00:18:06,222 --> 00:18:08,222
Kathy Elliott.
426
00:18:15,698 --> 00:18:17,799
DANNY: Traffic camera
last spotted Nick's car
427
00:18:17,801 --> 00:18:19,567
at this intersection.
428
00:18:21,037 --> 00:18:23,337
You see anything yet?
429
00:18:23,339 --> 00:18:25,173
BAEZ:
This is it.
430
00:18:25,175 --> 00:18:26,908
This is the car
Nick was driving.
431
00:18:26,910 --> 00:18:28,075
Of all the places
432
00:18:28,077 --> 00:18:29,777
he could be hiding out,
and he chooses a diner?
433
00:18:29,779 --> 00:18:31,212
Well, it makes sense.
434
00:18:31,214 --> 00:18:32,747
He's probably hungry,
doesn't have a lot of cash.
435
00:18:32,749 --> 00:18:33,815
Go with what you know.
436
00:18:33,817 --> 00:18:35,683
Like a married guy
who divorces his wife,
437
00:18:35,685 --> 00:18:37,585
then marries
the same kind of girl.
438
00:18:37,587 --> 00:18:39,120
Shouldn't we call it in
439
00:18:39,122 --> 00:18:40,521
and wait for backup?
No.
440
00:18:40,523 --> 00:18:42,590
We're not gonna let him
run out on the check this time.
441
00:18:42,592 --> 00:18:43,558
(sighs)
442
00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,726
(indistinct chatter)
443
00:18:58,474 --> 00:19:01,075
You go that way.
444
00:19:01,878 --> 00:19:04,278
Excuse me.
I need you to follow me.
445
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,281
Nick Constantine.
446
00:19:08,251 --> 00:19:10,585
How the hell you been?
447
00:19:11,421 --> 00:19:12,954
Remind me.
448
00:19:12,956 --> 00:19:14,255
Danny Reagan.
449
00:19:15,158 --> 00:19:16,657
Think you know my old man.
450
00:19:16,659 --> 00:19:20,261
Right, Danny.
451
00:19:20,263 --> 00:19:21,429
The hothead.
452
00:19:21,431 --> 00:19:22,630
How you doing?
453
00:19:22,632 --> 00:19:24,432
Maybe we should talk outside.
454
00:19:24,434 --> 00:19:27,201
Why would I do that?
455
00:19:27,203 --> 00:19:29,337
Everybody out of the diner.
Let's go.
456
00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:32,106
Let's go. Come on. Come on.
457
00:19:44,554 --> 00:19:46,320
You know, Danny,
458
00:19:46,322 --> 00:19:48,222
at my age...
459
00:19:50,159 --> 00:19:52,393
...I'm not going back to prison.
460
00:19:52,395 --> 00:19:55,162
We can do this the hard way
if you want.
461
00:19:55,164 --> 00:19:56,797
But I think
you might've caused
462
00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,267
enough pain
for your family already.
463
00:20:05,108 --> 00:20:09,477
If... if I come with you,
464
00:20:09,479 --> 00:20:12,813
quietly...
465
00:20:12,815 --> 00:20:14,649
it's on one condition.
466
00:20:14,651 --> 00:20:16,417
I'm listening.
467
00:20:16,419 --> 00:20:19,887
I talk to Frank.
468
00:20:19,889 --> 00:20:21,889
Nobody else.
469
00:20:21,891 --> 00:20:23,557
Just Frank.
470
00:20:25,428 --> 00:20:27,361
I'll see what I can do.
471
00:20:40,143 --> 00:20:42,376
What's the old man doing?
472
00:20:42,378 --> 00:20:44,211
Talk to him.
473
00:20:56,059 --> 00:20:59,226
I got word your suspect
wanted to speak to me.
474
00:20:59,228 --> 00:21:01,162
Yeah, he asked.
475
00:21:01,164 --> 00:21:02,797
And I didn't say yes.
476
00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:04,598
Why not?
477
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,101
I don't typically offer up
the commissioner's time
478
00:21:07,103 --> 00:21:08,369
as part of my deals.
479
00:21:08,371 --> 00:21:11,339
I'd like to make an exception
in this instance.
480
00:21:11,341 --> 00:21:13,674
Well, since when
do you come down here
481
00:21:13,676 --> 00:21:15,242
because a suspect asked you to?
482
00:21:15,244 --> 00:21:18,779
Can't think of
the last time I did.
483
00:21:18,781 --> 00:21:21,048
Look,
484
00:21:21,050 --> 00:21:22,717
I know he's your collar,
485
00:21:22,719 --> 00:21:26,287
and you certainly don't
need my help, Detective.
486
00:21:26,289 --> 00:21:28,422
You're as good as I got, but...
487
00:21:30,626 --> 00:21:32,827
...he was my collar first.
488
00:21:35,665 --> 00:21:37,431
I have to know.
489
00:21:37,433 --> 00:21:40,001
Well, he's in the box.
490
00:21:40,003 --> 00:21:44,238
It might be better
if I talked to him in here.
491
00:21:45,708 --> 00:21:47,375
Okay.
492
00:21:47,377 --> 00:21:48,709
Thank you.
493
00:21:48,711 --> 00:21:51,045
By the way,
the gun we found on him
494
00:21:51,047 --> 00:21:53,414
does match the one
used in the murder.
495
00:21:59,756 --> 00:22:01,956
(door closes)
496
00:22:15,311 --> 00:22:18,679
The coffee at our diner used to
be the best coffee in the city.
497
00:22:18,681 --> 00:22:20,881
There's no
chain places,
498
00:22:20,883 --> 00:22:23,584
one supplier for all
of the diners in town.
499
00:22:23,586 --> 00:22:26,354
No special bean that
comes out of a cat's ass.
500
00:22:26,356 --> 00:22:29,090
I didn't come down here
to reminisce about coffee.
501
00:22:29,092 --> 00:22:30,858
Hmm.
502
00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:33,928
Alex Kalamogdartis.
503
00:22:33,930 --> 00:22:36,197
He was not
a nice young man, Frank.
504
00:22:36,199 --> 00:22:39,400
Well, he died this morning.
505
00:22:40,670 --> 00:22:42,236
And "not nice" is not grounds
506
00:22:42,238 --> 00:22:44,438
for a justifiable homicide,
Nick.
507
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,740
Rotten apple from a rotten tree.
508
00:22:45,742 --> 00:22:48,576
Come on, the kid had a record
as long as the old man.
509
00:22:48,578 --> 00:22:50,111
I know that.
510
00:22:50,113 --> 00:22:51,278
Tell me what happened.
511
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,880
I got nothing to tell.
512
00:22:52,882 --> 00:22:54,281
I'm at my family restaurant,
513
00:22:54,283 --> 00:22:56,050
celebrating my freedom.
514
00:22:56,052 --> 00:22:57,518
In walks the kid.
515
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,253
Hot and bothered,
stirring up trouble.
516
00:22:59,255 --> 00:23:00,955
Just like his old man.
517
00:23:00,957 --> 00:23:02,990
Next thing I know,
bodies are falling.
518
00:23:02,992 --> 00:23:04,325
Who fired the shots?
519
00:23:04,327 --> 00:23:06,293
I don't know;
it was dark, it was crowded,
520
00:23:06,295 --> 00:23:07,895
music was loud.
521
00:23:09,399 --> 00:23:10,765
Why do we have
522
00:23:10,767 --> 00:23:13,968
this picture of you
leaving with the gun?
523
00:23:13,970 --> 00:23:17,004
(exhales)
524
00:23:17,006 --> 00:23:18,205
I wasn't thinking, Frank.
525
00:23:18,207 --> 00:23:20,174
I panicked when I saw
the gun on the floor.
526
00:23:20,176 --> 00:23:22,877
All I could think was
I got to get it out of here.
527
00:23:22,879 --> 00:23:26,313
You got a problem,
or does the problem have you?
528
00:23:27,417 --> 00:23:29,884
You trying to cover
for somebody?
529
00:23:29,886 --> 00:23:30,951
Not at all.
530
00:23:30,953 --> 00:23:32,653
Like, maybe you got used
to life inside,
531
00:23:32,655 --> 00:23:34,055
had it wired pretty good.
532
00:23:34,057 --> 00:23:35,189
You're dead wrong.
533
00:23:35,191 --> 00:23:36,557
I'm not covering for anybody.
534
00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,659
Right, and you have no idea
who the shooter was
535
00:23:38,661 --> 00:23:40,561
in your own restaurant,
with your own people around.
536
00:23:40,563 --> 00:23:42,263
Nobody saw nothing.
537
00:23:46,135 --> 00:23:48,402
Where was your boy
when this happened?
538
00:23:48,404 --> 00:23:49,937
In the back.
539
00:23:49,939 --> 00:23:52,273
Who with?
I don't know.
540
00:23:52,275 --> 00:23:56,343
(sighs) I gave you the benefit
of the doubt once.
541
00:23:56,345 --> 00:23:58,312
You owe me the truth.
542
00:24:00,083 --> 00:24:03,784
I paid my debt
to the State of New York.
543
00:24:03,786 --> 00:24:05,820
20 years.
544
00:24:05,822 --> 00:24:09,423
I gave it 20 years of my life.
545
00:24:09,425 --> 00:24:12,193
I don't owe anybody
anything else.
546
00:24:12,195 --> 00:24:15,362
Not good enough.
547
00:24:15,364 --> 00:24:16,764
Start over.
548
00:24:18,801 --> 00:24:21,102
SANDI:
That's Harry.
549
00:24:21,104 --> 00:24:22,937
With my late
husband David.
550
00:24:22,939 --> 00:24:25,039
Two of them were
thick as thieves.
551
00:24:25,041 --> 00:24:28,576
Drinking and gambling every
night at the Old Bluff.
552
00:24:28,578 --> 00:24:30,544
Sandi, you said that you weren't
friends with Harry,
553
00:24:30,546 --> 00:24:32,646
but he kept sending you money.
554
00:24:32,648 --> 00:24:33,647
Why?
555
00:24:33,649 --> 00:24:34,782
Oh, I don't know.
556
00:24:34,784 --> 00:24:36,016
Maybe he felt sorry for me
557
00:24:36,018 --> 00:24:38,219
because I had to raise
my grandson on my own.
558
00:24:38,221 --> 00:24:40,755
The child has
special needs.
559
00:24:40,757 --> 00:24:41,989
He's smart.
560
00:24:41,991 --> 00:24:45,259
And he was doing well
in the program I sent him to.
561
00:24:45,261 --> 00:24:46,660
That school
they had him in?
562
00:24:46,662 --> 00:24:49,029
Full of screamers
and head bangers.
563
00:24:49,031 --> 00:24:51,198
How much was Harry sending?
564
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,334
Are you gonna tell the IRS?
565
00:24:53,336 --> 00:24:54,902
No.
566
00:24:54,904 --> 00:24:57,571
Never more than ten grand.
567
00:24:57,573 --> 00:24:59,573
Every few months.
568
00:24:59,575 --> 00:25:01,809
Now the program says
David can't come back
569
00:25:01,811 --> 00:25:03,577
until I pay the next bill.
570
00:25:03,579 --> 00:25:05,646
Sandi, I hate to ask you this,
571
00:25:05,648 --> 00:25:08,983
but that's a lot of money for
a guy that didn't have a job.
572
00:25:10,052 --> 00:25:11,685
Do you know anything about
Harry's involvement
573
00:25:11,687 --> 00:25:13,154
in the Benny Trust heist?
574
00:25:15,057 --> 00:25:16,724
That's where my husband worked.
575
00:25:16,726 --> 00:25:19,560
What did he do there?
576
00:25:19,562 --> 00:25:21,862
He was a guard.
577
00:25:21,864 --> 00:25:24,999
The guard who got killed
in the robbery?
578
00:25:25,001 --> 00:25:28,936
The bank got their money back
from the insurance,
579
00:25:28,938 --> 00:25:31,405
and then went under before
they paid our benefits
580
00:25:31,407 --> 00:25:32,973
like they promised.
581
00:25:32,975 --> 00:25:35,342
Harry was the only one
looking out for us.
582
00:25:35,344 --> 00:25:37,578
Did you ever ask
where he got the cash?
583
00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:38,679
No.
584
00:25:38,681 --> 00:25:41,382
But I knew something
was eating him inside.
585
00:25:41,384 --> 00:25:43,017
And they always said
586
00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:45,419
the robbers must have
had an inside tip.
587
00:25:45,421 --> 00:25:47,354
You think Harry was the conduit,
588
00:25:47,356 --> 00:25:49,423
because he was drinking buddies
with your husband?
589
00:25:49,425 --> 00:25:51,192
He sure acted guilty around me.
590
00:25:51,194 --> 00:25:52,927
You think he got
a cut afterward?
591
00:25:52,929 --> 00:25:54,728
I don't know.
592
00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:56,797
I needed the money.
593
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:58,532
For my grandson.
594
00:25:59,602 --> 00:26:02,336
I guess you got
a judgment about that, huh?
595
00:26:02,338 --> 00:26:05,372
I don't know what to think.
596
00:26:05,374 --> 00:26:08,642
So what happens now?
597
00:26:12,748 --> 00:26:13,681
Hey, Reagan.
598
00:26:13,683 --> 00:26:15,950
What the hell
do you want?
599
00:26:15,952 --> 00:26:18,118
I heard you had
my father here.
600
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,154
Yeah. Well, unless you got
something new to offer
601
00:26:20,156 --> 00:26:21,689
that you held
back on before,
602
00:26:21,691 --> 00:26:23,557
there's nothing you can
do to help him now.
603
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:24,758
Wait.
604
00:26:26,362 --> 00:26:28,662
I think you're gonna
want to hear this.
605
00:26:28,664 --> 00:26:32,099
Okay.
606
00:26:32,101 --> 00:26:33,734
Come on.
607
00:26:43,946 --> 00:26:46,080
(metallic click)
608
00:26:46,082 --> 00:26:47,281
Whew.
609
00:26:51,454 --> 00:26:54,288
We're good to go?
610
00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:55,789
GPS is working.
611
00:26:55,791 --> 00:26:57,691
We good with the warrant?
Just in time.
612
00:26:57,693 --> 00:26:59,260
Judge says,
"Kathy's her own worst enemy."
613
00:26:59,262 --> 00:27:01,095
If she wasn't pushing this--
614
00:27:01,097 --> 00:27:03,063
a live video interview
to drive up ratings--
615
00:27:03,065 --> 00:27:06,800
we wouldn't have probable cause
she was meeting with Jeffrey.
616
00:27:08,204 --> 00:27:10,271
There she is.
617
00:27:13,876 --> 00:27:15,743
Can't believe
she's doing this.
618
00:27:15,745 --> 00:27:18,812
She was one of the best trial
lawyers I ever worked with.
619
00:27:18,814 --> 00:27:21,882
One thing about Kathy,
she was always more about
620
00:27:21,884 --> 00:27:24,051
the attention
than the case.
621
00:27:25,221 --> 00:27:26,987
Let's go.
622
00:27:26,989 --> 00:27:28,656
Please, don't complain
about the driving today.
623
00:27:28,658 --> 00:27:29,790
(engine starts)
624
00:27:32,862 --> 00:27:35,029
No promises.
625
00:27:37,066 --> 00:27:40,034
My father's
the strongest man I know.
626
00:27:40,036 --> 00:27:41,969
I can never be like him.
627
00:27:41,971 --> 00:27:43,070
Okay.
628
00:27:43,072 --> 00:27:44,605
He did 20 years in state prison,
629
00:27:44,607 --> 00:27:46,040
and he never complained
about the food.
630
00:27:46,042 --> 00:27:48,075
After being in
the restaurant business.
631
00:27:49,545 --> 00:27:52,112
No, he...
632
00:27:52,114 --> 00:27:54,581
he deserves to have
his life back.
633
00:27:54,583 --> 00:27:56,116
He only just met
his granddaughter.
634
00:27:56,118 --> 00:27:59,553
I'm sure this is all
going someplace.
635
00:27:59,555 --> 00:28:01,588
When Alex Kalamogdartis
636
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:03,624
came in the other night
and started threatening him,
637
00:28:03,626 --> 00:28:04,959
I couldn't take it.
638
00:28:04,961 --> 00:28:07,361
So you're saying you were
there during the argument.
639
00:28:07,363 --> 00:28:08,729
Yes, yes.
640
00:28:08,731 --> 00:28:09,863
I'm sorry that I lied before.
641
00:28:09,865 --> 00:28:11,632
Like I said,
I'm not as strong as Papa.
642
00:28:11,634 --> 00:28:13,867
Okay, we've moved past that.
643
00:28:13,869 --> 00:28:17,104
So you heard Alex threaten
your dad, then what did you do?
644
00:28:18,941 --> 00:28:20,975
I went, I went and I got
my cousin's gun
645
00:28:20,977 --> 00:28:22,176
from under the cash register.
646
00:28:22,178 --> 00:28:23,877
And then what?
647
00:28:23,879 --> 00:28:26,914
And then I just
started shooting.
648
00:28:28,684 --> 00:28:33,153
And shooting and shooting
and shooting and shooting!
649
00:28:34,056 --> 00:28:35,556
After it was done,
650
00:28:35,558 --> 00:28:38,692
Papa took the gun and told me
to keep my mouth shut.
651
00:28:39,495 --> 00:28:41,528
Okay.
I did it.
652
00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:42,896
Yeah.
653
00:28:42,898 --> 00:28:45,733
I'm gonna need you to
write that all down, okay?
654
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,539
My father's still got
655
00:28:52,541 --> 00:28:54,775
a few good years left.
656
00:28:54,777 --> 00:28:58,579
I can't let him go back to
prison for something that I did.
657
00:29:05,654 --> 00:29:08,188
You want a lawyer?
658
00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:10,057
Now? Seriously?
659
00:29:10,059 --> 00:29:11,859
Yeah. It's my right.
I didn't shoot the kid.
660
00:29:11,861 --> 00:29:13,427
You got no right
to keep me here.
661
00:29:13,429 --> 00:29:14,695
You asked for me.
662
00:29:14,697 --> 00:29:16,563
And now you want a lawyer?
663
00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,402
It's done.
664
00:29:21,404 --> 00:29:22,903
He confessed.
665
00:29:37,219 --> 00:29:39,053
(sighs)
666
00:29:39,055 --> 00:29:40,254
Full statement?
667
00:29:40,256 --> 00:29:42,956
Signed, sealed and delivered.
668
00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:44,224
Good work.
669
00:29:44,226 --> 00:29:45,325
Stavros...
(speaks Greek)
670
00:29:45,327 --> 00:29:46,393
In English.
671
00:29:46,395 --> 00:29:48,796
Papa, I'm sorry.
Don't do this.
672
00:29:48,798 --> 00:29:50,697
STAVROS: I already did.
NICK: No, you didn't.
673
00:29:50,699 --> 00:29:52,332
I shot him, Papa.
674
00:29:52,334 --> 00:29:53,700
He didn't give
me a choice.
675
00:29:53,702 --> 00:29:55,536
Take him down
to Central Booking.
676
00:29:55,538 --> 00:29:56,870
Yes, sir. Come on.
Wait a minute.
677
00:29:56,872 --> 00:29:58,338
Wait a minute!
Wait a minute!
678
00:30:05,548 --> 00:30:07,714
(sighs)
679
00:30:11,787 --> 00:30:15,389
I don't think you're gonna
let him do this, Nick.
680
00:30:15,391 --> 00:30:19,660
You're not a perfect man,
but you love your family
681
00:30:19,662 --> 00:30:21,829
and you love your son.
682
00:30:28,037 --> 00:30:30,904
It's how
it had to be, Frank.
683
00:30:30,906 --> 00:30:35,342
Otherwise, those people
were never gonna let us be.
684
00:30:35,344 --> 00:30:37,511
Ready to make
a statement?
685
00:30:37,513 --> 00:30:40,647
Yes, I am.
686
00:30:45,054 --> 00:30:47,888
We got the cuffs
on the wrong man.
687
00:31:00,437 --> 00:31:02,704
d d
688
00:31:20,991 --> 00:31:22,691
Nice ride.
Smart.
689
00:31:22,692 --> 00:31:24,946
Jeffrey knew
we'd be looking for him
690
00:31:24,947 --> 00:31:27,481
at the airfields, so he's
all set to get away by land.
691
00:31:27,483 --> 00:31:30,517
Well, I guess looking back,
I could've seen the signs.
692
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,020
Beth was always
a little flighty.
693
00:31:33,022 --> 00:31:35,122
That was part of the energy
that drew me to her.
694
00:31:35,124 --> 00:31:36,490
She started
disappearing for
695
00:31:36,492 --> 00:31:38,158
longer and longer
periods of time.
696
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,460
And then one night,
she just didn't come back.
697
00:31:40,462 --> 00:31:41,728
(door opens)
698
00:31:42,431 --> 00:31:44,264
You two, sit down.
699
00:31:45,434 --> 00:31:46,967
And shut that off.
700
00:31:47,703 --> 00:31:50,304
On your feet, Doc.
Come on.
701
00:31:50,306 --> 00:31:52,906
Come on!
702
00:31:52,908 --> 00:31:54,908
Looks like this interview
is over, Kathy.
703
00:31:54,910 --> 00:31:57,177
Jeffrey Durning, we have
a warrant for your arrest.
704
00:31:58,380 --> 00:31:59,413
Wait, this is all wrong.
705
00:31:59,415 --> 00:32:01,915
We also have a warrant
for your arrest.
706
00:32:01,917 --> 00:32:03,417
For what?
707
00:32:03,419 --> 00:32:04,384
Hindering prosecution.
708
00:32:04,386 --> 00:32:06,186
You lied to us
about where he was,
709
00:32:06,188 --> 00:32:07,888
and you're assisting a fugitive.
710
00:32:07,890 --> 00:32:09,289
Wait.
711
00:32:09,291 --> 00:32:10,991
There's something
you need to see
712
00:32:10,993 --> 00:32:12,859
that changes this whole case.
713
00:32:12,861 --> 00:32:14,227
Oh, really?
714
00:32:16,065 --> 00:32:17,331
This...
715
00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:19,333
was taken in Caracas
716
00:32:19,335 --> 00:32:21,401
two days ago
by a friend of Beth's.
717
00:32:22,404 --> 00:32:24,371
She's still alive.
718
00:32:31,146 --> 00:32:32,512
(groans)
Hey.
719
00:32:32,514 --> 00:32:34,948
Hey. Put the brisket
in the fridge.
720
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:37,317
I got us a bottle of wine;
we're in business.
721
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:38,285
Grandpa,
722
00:32:38,287 --> 00:32:40,654
do you remember
the Benny Trust heist?
723
00:32:40,656 --> 00:32:42,122
Oh, sure I do.
724
00:32:42,124 --> 00:32:43,690
Happened when I was PC.
725
00:32:43,692 --> 00:32:45,692
We always heard that
it was an inside job,
726
00:32:45,694 --> 00:32:47,260
but we could
never prove it.
727
00:32:47,262 --> 00:32:49,429
Most of the thieves
killed each other
728
00:32:49,431 --> 00:32:51,598
before they could
spend the money. Why?
729
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,667
Just a hypothetical,
but what if I told you
730
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:56,069
that I found
some of the money?
731
00:32:56,071 --> 00:32:57,604
I'd say forget
the brisket,
732
00:32:57,606 --> 00:33:00,507
you're taking us to Peter
Luger's for family dinner.
733
00:33:00,509 --> 00:33:01,908
(chuckles)
734
00:33:03,779 --> 00:33:06,513
Seriously, it's a closed case,
isn't it?
735
00:33:06,515 --> 00:33:10,684
No, the term is "not an
active investigation."
736
00:33:10,686 --> 00:33:12,419
Big difference.
737
00:33:14,456 --> 00:33:16,456
Let's just say
a couple of partners
738
00:33:16,458 --> 00:33:19,059
stumble on a bundle of cash
in a dead man's apartment.
739
00:33:19,061 --> 00:33:21,928
Well, if they take
it for themselves,
740
00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:26,366
they're out of a job and
maybe on their way to prison.
741
00:33:26,368 --> 00:33:29,069
Let's just say though that
they've made all the right calls
742
00:33:29,071 --> 00:33:30,904
and turns out
nobody's looking for that money,
743
00:33:30,906 --> 00:33:33,106
but it's clear
that the dead guy
744
00:33:33,108 --> 00:33:35,809
wanted to leave it to somebody
who really needed it.
745
00:33:35,811 --> 00:33:37,978
He died without
leaving a will?
746
00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:39,546
Yeah.
747
00:33:39,548 --> 00:33:41,848
Well, then it goes to
the public administrator.
748
00:33:41,850 --> 00:33:44,418
What if they just
don't find all of it?
749
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:49,156
Well, then these partners
have an interesting dilemma.
750
00:33:52,227 --> 00:33:54,861
A few years before the heist,
751
00:33:54,863 --> 00:33:57,631
I was up in the Bronx
for the Big Blackout.
752
00:33:59,101 --> 00:34:00,867
The looting was insane.
753
00:34:00,869 --> 00:34:03,603
We were locking up people
left, right and center.
754
00:34:03,605 --> 00:34:07,340
Someone had broken
the front window
755
00:34:07,342 --> 00:34:11,445
of a store that charged
the most ridiculous prices.
756
00:34:11,447 --> 00:34:15,649
I saw a lady my age,
with three little kids,
757
00:34:15,651 --> 00:34:18,318
carrying out a bag
full of diapers and groceries.
758
00:34:19,855 --> 00:34:23,023
I looked her
straight in the eye...
759
00:34:23,025 --> 00:34:24,691
and I let her go.
760
00:34:24,693 --> 00:34:28,028
I made a
judgment call.
761
00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:31,798
Every good cop's
got to be able to make one.
762
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,035
Not that we're talking about
anything real here.
763
00:34:43,746 --> 00:34:45,078
(video game beeping quietly)
764
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,480
You sure this is okay?
765
00:34:46,482 --> 00:34:48,815
The public administrators
are already done.
766
00:34:48,817 --> 00:34:50,484
You're the closest thing
to a family friend.
767
00:34:50,486 --> 00:34:52,519
We're just giving you
a chance to pick out
768
00:34:52,521 --> 00:34:54,688
some clothes for Harry,
for the funeral.
769
00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:57,858
No one else is coming?
770
00:34:57,860 --> 00:34:59,926
He had no will,
no heirs.
771
00:34:59,928 --> 00:35:02,062
Just the letter to you.
772
00:35:02,064 --> 00:35:03,497
So, we'll give
you an hour.
773
00:35:03,499 --> 00:35:05,298
Whatever you leave behind
goes to the landlady
774
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:07,868
or the-the
clean-out company.
775
00:35:08,704 --> 00:35:10,370
Just...
776
00:35:10,372 --> 00:35:13,907
make sure you look everywhere--
the cupboards, the closets...
777
00:35:15,043 --> 00:35:17,978
...under the bed.
778
00:35:31,093 --> 00:35:32,859
I'm still not
sure about this.
779
00:35:32,861 --> 00:35:34,561
Public administrators
got most of the cash
780
00:35:34,563 --> 00:35:35,896
that was just lying around.
781
00:35:35,898 --> 00:35:36,930
We both know there's more.
782
00:35:36,932 --> 00:35:38,932
And no one's looking for it.
783
00:35:38,934 --> 00:35:40,867
Sandi needs that money
to keep her grandson
784
00:35:40,869 --> 00:35:42,102
in that special school.
785
00:35:42,104 --> 00:35:44,938
Just doesn't feel right.
786
00:35:44,940 --> 00:35:47,474
What if someone starts
asking questions later?
787
00:35:47,476 --> 00:35:51,845
Guess you'll have to decide
if you're gonna rat me out.
788
00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:02,589
I can't believe you had me
arrested on felony charges.
789
00:36:02,591 --> 00:36:04,324
Well, you knew
where Jeffrey Durning was
790
00:36:04,326 --> 00:36:06,760
and you chose to mislead us
and protect him.
791
00:36:06,762 --> 00:36:08,829
The flaw in
your argument
792
00:36:08,831 --> 00:36:10,530
is that there is
no underlying crime.
793
00:36:10,532 --> 00:36:11,965
Really?
794
00:36:11,967 --> 00:36:13,733
I've given you proof.
795
00:36:13,735 --> 00:36:16,303
You mean that picture
from Venezuela?
796
00:36:16,305 --> 00:36:18,905
It kind of blows the whole case
out of the water, Anthony,
797
00:36:18,907 --> 00:36:20,640
doesn't it?
One little problem.
798
00:36:20,642 --> 00:36:23,410
I just got off the phone
with the guy in the photo.
799
00:36:23,412 --> 00:36:25,378
He's five-foot-six.
800
00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:27,214
Beth was five-foot-ten.
801
00:36:27,216 --> 00:36:30,383
And in the photo,
she's looking up at him.
802
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,720
How's a woman
who's four inches taller
803
00:36:33,722 --> 00:36:35,622
appearing shorter?
804
00:36:39,461 --> 00:36:41,261
Obviously, it
would be tough.
805
00:36:41,263 --> 00:36:42,996
I'd say.
806
00:36:42,998 --> 00:36:44,164
Doesn't mean I'm wrong
about everything.
807
00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:45,999
You're just trying
to neutralize me
808
00:36:46,001 --> 00:36:47,901
because you're afraid
the former prosecutor
809
00:36:47,903 --> 00:36:49,870
is gonna make Jeffrey's defense
a slam dunk.
810
00:36:49,872 --> 00:36:52,706
What about all the witnesses
Jeffrey intimidated?
811
00:36:52,708 --> 00:36:54,708
Their stories didn't hold up.
812
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:57,344
Then why did Jeffrey go to
Mindy's apartment the other day
813
00:36:57,346 --> 00:36:58,578
and threaten her?
814
00:37:02,384 --> 00:37:05,018
He's worried the truth
will come out.
815
00:37:06,889 --> 00:37:08,955
I had no idea he'd done this.
816
00:37:08,957 --> 00:37:12,559
You let your ego get ahead
of the facts in this case,
817
00:37:12,561 --> 00:37:15,362
and you've been poisoning
the jury pool with your podcast.
818
00:37:15,364 --> 00:37:17,764
I thought I had a subject
who was innocent.
819
00:37:17,766 --> 00:37:19,032
Is it safe to say
820
00:37:19,034 --> 00:37:21,167
that you could've
handled things differently?
821
00:37:23,972 --> 00:37:27,140
I'll give you what I have
on Jeffrey from my files.
822
00:37:35,317 --> 00:37:37,417
Bless us, oh Lord,
in these thy gifts,
823
00:37:37,419 --> 00:37:39,586
which we are about to
receive from thy bounty
824
00:37:39,588 --> 00:37:41,388
through Christ our Lord. Amen.
825
00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:42,822
ALL:
Amen.
826
00:37:42,824 --> 00:37:44,491
Ah, the prodigal son.
827
00:37:44,493 --> 00:37:46,126
Better late than never.
828
00:37:46,128 --> 00:37:47,227
What took you?
829
00:37:47,229 --> 00:37:48,962
I texted Erin I was
running a little behind.
830
00:37:48,964 --> 00:37:49,963
He did.
831
00:37:49,965 --> 00:37:51,865
Where were you?
832
00:37:51,867 --> 00:37:53,033
Uh, funeral.
833
00:37:53,035 --> 00:37:54,601
Whose?
834
00:37:54,603 --> 00:37:55,702
Just a guy.
835
00:37:55,704 --> 00:37:57,504
You know him well?
836
00:37:57,506 --> 00:37:58,672
Uh, no.
837
00:37:58,674 --> 00:38:00,173
Actually didn't know him at all.
838
00:38:00,175 --> 00:38:01,608
Turns out, nobody really did.
839
00:38:01,610 --> 00:38:03,076
What's that mean?
840
00:38:03,078 --> 00:38:04,778
Means he barely
came out of his house
841
00:38:04,780 --> 00:38:07,080
or spoke to anyone for 25 years,
and passed away
842
00:38:07,082 --> 00:38:08,782
without anyone really wondering
where he went.
843
00:38:08,784 --> 00:38:10,650
That may be one of the saddest
things I've ever heard.
844
00:38:10,652 --> 00:38:12,218
How deep did you dig?
845
00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:13,453
Didn't really dig, actually.
846
00:38:13,455 --> 00:38:16,222
Just a few days sitting with
his stuff and waiting for
847
00:38:16,224 --> 00:38:17,891
the public
administrators to show.
848
00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:20,460
Did he have something to hide,
something he was hiding from?
849
00:38:20,462 --> 00:38:21,661
No record.
850
00:38:21,663 --> 00:38:24,230
At least not under
any of the names that we had.
851
00:38:24,232 --> 00:38:26,166
Well, maybe he never got caught;
couldn't forgive himself.
852
00:38:26,168 --> 00:38:27,767
LINDA:
Any more of this,
853
00:38:27,769 --> 00:38:29,970
and I'm gonna have to go
back to church
854
00:38:29,972 --> 00:38:31,805
and pray for his poor soul.
Right?
855
00:38:31,807 --> 00:38:33,373
So you actually
went to the funeral
856
00:38:33,375 --> 00:38:34,774
for someone you never met?
857
00:38:35,644 --> 00:38:36,977
Yeah.
858
00:38:36,979 --> 00:38:39,145
Ever done that before?
859
00:38:39,147 --> 00:38:41,314
Nope. Just felt like I should.
860
00:38:41,316 --> 00:38:42,449
That's it?
861
00:38:45,754 --> 00:38:48,388
Yeah, kind of hard to explain.
862
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:50,357
At least for me it is.
863
00:38:52,394 --> 00:38:54,761
Wow, you give this family
half an opportunity,
864
00:38:54,763 --> 00:38:57,097
and the questions
just don't stop.
865
00:38:57,099 --> 00:38:58,999
Sorry I
brought it up.
866
00:38:59,835 --> 00:39:02,902
Nicky, boys,
867
00:39:02,904 --> 00:39:05,839
you hear a lot of harsh stories
at this table.
868
00:39:05,841 --> 00:39:07,107
I don't think
they're harsh.
869
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:08,575
Cool, maybe.
870
00:39:08,577 --> 00:39:09,943
Okay, ear of the beholder.
871
00:39:09,945 --> 00:39:12,912
But if there's one thing
you need to take away
872
00:39:12,914 --> 00:39:15,515
from this table, I hope
it's that you don't have to be
873
00:39:15,517 --> 00:39:18,284
Jamie's age, or
Danny's or Erin's
874
00:39:18,286 --> 00:39:20,253
or mine or Pop's
for that matter,
875
00:39:20,255 --> 00:39:23,523
to learn to show some grace
where it's needed.
876
00:39:23,525 --> 00:39:26,593
To save some grace
for strangers even,
877
00:39:26,595 --> 00:39:30,163
who find themselves
without family or friends.
878
00:39:30,165 --> 00:39:33,800
Or whatever reason
got them there.
879
00:39:34,636 --> 00:39:36,603
Will do.
Me, too.
880
00:39:36,605 --> 00:39:38,171
I'll try.
881
00:39:39,307 --> 00:39:43,009
I'd like to think
the reward is in the attempt.
882
00:39:43,011 --> 00:39:44,644
Well, the good news is,
883
00:39:44,646 --> 00:39:47,247
none of us is ever
gonna end up alone.
884
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:52,385
Not while another one
of us is still standing.
885
00:39:53,755 --> 00:39:55,555
And again, amen.
886
00:40:03,745 --> 00:40:10,245
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00:40:11,305 --> 00:41:11,810
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