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Subtitles by explosiveskull
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An historic
church in Llanelli
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has been ravaged by
fire this evening.
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Fire crews from Llanelli
and surrounding areas
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are continuing to
battle the fire.
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The search continues
for an American filmmaker
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and her companions
who went missing
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while exploring an
abandoned church in Wales.
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Police are
investigating the disappearance
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of several filmmakers from the
Carmarthen Bay Film Festival
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in Llanelli, Wales.
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Hollywood producer
Jamie Lee Smith
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is among those named missing,
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along with English movie
director David Campion
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and several others.
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Adding
to the mystery is
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that the location in question
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has subsequently
burned to the ground.
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It's not
been confirmed whether
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or not the missing
filmmakers were in the church
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at the time of the blaze,
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but there was evidence
found suggesting
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they were in the
church just before
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or during the tragic fire.
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Crowds have
gathered in the streets
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to watch the dramatic blaze
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just as the roof
collapsed under the heat.
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The fire's cause is unknown
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but they haven't
ruled out arson.
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Police officials and fire
department arson investigators say
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they'll issue a full report
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as soon as the
investigation wraps.
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Interest in this story
has exploded worldwide
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as officials consider
any and all motives
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and causes for
the disappearance,
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including occult activity.
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Witnesses report
seeing faces in the fire while
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the church was burning.
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There is
a lot of controversy
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surrounding the fire and
the disappearances too.
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Hoax or not a hoax, you decide.
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A source has come forward
with possible video evidence,
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but that footage has not
yet been made public.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Could
you introduce yourself?
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Yes, my name's Gary Slaymaker,
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comedian and Wale's foremost
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Trump critic as well, sir, yeah.
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And what
you doing at the festival?
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I'm actually on the jury, I
have been since the beginning,
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primarily because of
the job, I suppose,
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as well as a film reviewer,
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it's great when you get to
support independent talent,
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you see these young, creative
directors coming up and
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it's just a chance, I suppose,
to feed them information,
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to support as much as
you can, really and
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just take it from
there and hopefully
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you see the bright new
stars of the future.
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This is a film about
my last day at school,
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because it was my last
day at school and I wanted
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to make a film,
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so this is it.
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Any questions?
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So, what was your favorite
part about making the movie?
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I think my favorite
part was when the camera
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almost fell off the gate.
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It fell off and I
got scared for a bit.
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So, what made you film
your last day of school?
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I had my camera in school.
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That's all.
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Okay, Q and A over, thank you.
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Hey.
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Hi.
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Slaymaker, but you
probably knew that.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Well, the good thing I
can say about your film is
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it was too short to
send me to sleep but
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is this your first film?
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No.
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No, try making it your last
film, okay, well done, sir.
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Okay.
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Yeah, my name's Kelvin
Guy, I'm the CEO and founder
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of the Camarthen Bay Film Festival
and the John Haven award.
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Well, back in 2006,
I started to research
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a relative of mine, a
guy called Garth Hughes
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who was Wales very first
Hollywood silent film star.
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So I made documentary
about him and through that
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it kind of kindled my interest
in film and all things film.
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Through that, I decided
in 2011 to found
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and start a film festival here
in Llanelli Camarthenshire.
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The 2015 festival was
definitely a milestone for us.
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We had the submissions rising
from 140 the previous year
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to 208 for this year's
festival, which is a huge jump
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actually from our first festival
with only 35 submissions,
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so definitely rising submissions,
definitely a rise in
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people actually attending.
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I was walking past
one day and I said,
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well, I'm gonna take a
look and see what the score
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is and things and was
having a look around
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and I saw something
kind of on the floor
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and picked it up and could
see that it was a tape,
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and I decided well, I may
as well have a look and see
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what's on this tape
and that's it really,
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that's how I came
across the footage.
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I'm Reverend Dr. Eric Benson.
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I am a professor of history
and comparative religions
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and currently serve as
the director of the Center
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for Celtic Community.
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I received a
telephone call about
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some memory card, some
video clips that were found
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at a church and
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it seems like a
complicated project but
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the more I heard about it,
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the more intrigued I was.
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I am the owner and
manager of the hotel.
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So, it's been in the family
for five generations,
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although we start
very young in Llanelli
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and we start procreating,
so it's actually only been
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in the family since about '89.
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So every year we have
a film festival here.
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I mean, I don't watch any of
the films, absolute shite but,
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a lot of people do like
it, so that's where I met
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some of the film makers that
we've had here and that's
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how I know Gary
and that other lot.
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This is the sort of
edge of the estate.
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That's where we buried the cat,
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pretty much, actually, he
was only a little cat but
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did a job.
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This wall, I had that put in.
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A lot of people thinks this
looks like a castle wall,
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Americans mainly, wouldn't
know a castle if it bit them.
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What else we got 'round here?
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What do you wanna know?
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The lawn, this is
a lawn, classic.
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Wanking shed there, that's mine,
no one else comes in there.
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Car park,
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with cars and trees,
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you can't call it a tree park,
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well, I tried calling
it a tree park and
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council shut that down.
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And please
welcome Hooray for Holyhead.
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Welcome to a comedy
panel game for film buffs,
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which we've called
Hooray to Holyhead,
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no Hooray for
Holyhead, I should say.
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Basically it's a
question and answer,
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lot of silly questions, you're
more than welcome to join in
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if you got better answers
than our panel tonight.
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My name's Gary Slaymaker
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and my panelists for
tonight's session
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of Hooray for Holyhead,
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first and foremost, comedian
and actress Payton Quinn,
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secondly, Mr. TJ Williams,
also a comedian and actor.
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Would you say hello
to the panel, please.
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Well, we start tonight's quiz
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with a five word film synopsis,
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so I'll ask you, Trev,
first for a five word
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film synopsis of the Lord of
the Rings Trilogy, please.
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Homoerotic addition
allegory about rings.
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I didn't say that, that's
you, filthy people.
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Alright, it's Trev
first, TJ Williams.
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Trying to be a
comedian right now,
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it's going okay.
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Well, I was involved in
a project with Gary and
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he was bringing it over here and
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he wanted, obviously, the
best people to be involved
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with the showing off down
here, so he brought me along.
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Payton, your five word film
synopsis is Pretty Woman.
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Boy, prostitution
seems like fun.
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The next one's
based on a hashtag
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and it's add a
letter, ruin a film.
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For example, Made
Max, Fury Road.
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So what have you got?
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I will start with
Payton this time.
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Analconda.
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Midnight Runs.
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Been there, done that.
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Yeah.
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The next one, well, there's
plenty of them around but
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let's get your twist on this,
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the title being movie prequels.
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The Vines of Wrath.
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500 Days of Spring.
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Please.
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I don't know if maybe
Payton's only checking one
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of the many ways
to get in touch,
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so if I just do one of
everything everyday,
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one Facebook message, one
Twitter message, one email,
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a couple of letters,
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when you say it like that, sure,
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it sounds a bit
unhinged maybe but
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I was worried about her.
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A Plethora of Mohicans.
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To Bruise a Mockingbird.
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Going Girl.
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The Girl Queuing Up at a
Tattoo Shop With a Picture
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of a Dragon.
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Another hashtag question,
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this time, the
hashtag is Tory Films,
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using some film titles
that would suit our current
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political leaders, the
conservative party,
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Payton, we'll start with you.
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Close Encounters
of the Third Reich.
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Pawn Remakes.
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Over a handful that are
actual movie titles already,
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like Interstellar.
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2001 Girls, One Cup, maybe.
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Planet of the Gapes.
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Jesus.
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Payton Quinn, Trev Williams,
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thank you very, very
much for joining me
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for a special version
of Hooray for Holyhead
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and thank you all
for being here.
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All the best to ya,
thanks very much.
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Well, the show was fun
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and our spots that
we did afterwards,
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they went down very well.
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Obviously Gary being Gary,
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things got a bit
weird afterwards but
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not as weird as the next day.
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My name is Ceri, I'm 16.
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I make films
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for me.
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I submit a film to the film
festival earlier this year and
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it was accepted and it was
shown and they they were there
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and I thought, yeah,
that's how I met them,
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that's how, that's
where I met them.
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I went along with them and
they said that we should
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go to the church and
see what it was like and
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so I went along with
them to the church to see
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what it was like.
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Drambuie, why'd
you call him Drambouie,
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'cause he's one fancy liquor.
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What was that?
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Are you recording?
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What you
doing with the bag?
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It's my stuff,
I can't help it.
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A girl always needs
things to carry.
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Guys, do you want to go
and see a haunted church?
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Oh yeah, I'm in.
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Yeah?
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Yeah.
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Come on, yeah?
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Let's go,
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haunted church, haunted church.
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Haunted all the way.
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With all of the break-ins
happening at churches
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and religious centers
throughout Wales
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over the last couple years
that have been attributed to
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Wiccan practice, black
magic, witchcraft,
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the townspeople are very
concerned and are not
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quite sure if maybe the
disappearances or even
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the fire might not have
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some sort of
supernatural connection.
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Supernatural,
no, there's no way.
257
00:18:14,516 --> 00:18:16,820
I don't believe in things
like that anyway and
258
00:18:19,755 --> 00:18:22,857
all I'm interested in, really,
is not putting people off
259
00:18:22,859 --> 00:18:25,559
coming to the town but
encouraging people to come
260
00:18:25,561 --> 00:18:27,997
to town for other
reasons rather than
261
00:18:29,432 --> 00:18:33,470
supernatural kind
of nonsense, really.
262
00:18:35,170 --> 00:18:37,405
Yeah, yeah, a lot of
people ask about the history
263
00:18:37,407 --> 00:18:39,039
of witchcraft in the area.
264
00:18:39,041 --> 00:18:41,043
Now, I don't know
that much about it but
265
00:18:42,411 --> 00:18:44,712
we've had a couple of witches
stay here in the hotel,
266
00:18:44,714 --> 00:18:49,386
not really, not real witches
just old slags, really and
267
00:18:50,153 --> 00:18:51,551
that's not the same.
268
00:18:51,553 --> 00:18:53,553
Another car park,
that's just, you know,
269
00:18:53,555 --> 00:18:56,022
if you wanna park,
not just one car park,
270
00:18:56,024 --> 00:18:59,396
another car park,
everything you could want.
271
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Trees, that one, they look
a bit like witches actually.
272
00:19:05,701 --> 00:19:07,371
Just now put it together now,
273
00:19:09,438 --> 00:19:11,504
this is a witch theme,
definitely, isn't it?
274
00:19:11,506 --> 00:19:15,209
Pointy things,
yeah, well witchy,
275
00:19:15,211 --> 00:19:16,609
hadn't even thought of that,
that's just coincidence,
276
00:19:16,611 --> 00:19:17,446
creepy isn't it?
277
00:19:19,448 --> 00:19:21,816
Not specifically with
the church but in Llanelli,
278
00:19:21,818 --> 00:19:25,085
all of the time, always
hear about things,
279
00:19:25,087 --> 00:19:28,521
there's the one about the
great bear living in the woods,
280
00:19:28,523 --> 00:19:30,758
which is a bit of
a monster story.
281
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,194
Apparently it goes around
with like arms twice
282
00:19:33,196 --> 00:19:35,229
the length of men and
all sorts of things,
283
00:19:35,231 --> 00:19:37,665
a bit scary, that's in Llanelli,
284
00:19:37,667 --> 00:19:41,501
obviously the highways above
the sky, where the UFOs,
285
00:19:41,503 --> 00:19:44,605
hence the exploding one,
that went into the church,
286
00:19:44,607 --> 00:19:46,540
enough said and the ghosts,
287
00:19:46,542 --> 00:19:48,809
it's a real hot
spot in Llanelli.
288
00:19:48,811 --> 00:19:50,211
I mean, there is a history
of supernatural stuff
289
00:19:50,213 --> 00:19:51,548
in this town, yeah.
290
00:19:52,581 --> 00:19:55,014
They say there's witches
who still do stuff around,
291
00:19:55,016 --> 00:19:56,483
there's ghost and
things like that,
292
00:19:56,485 --> 00:19:58,551
what have I seen, I don't know.
293
00:19:58,553 --> 00:20:00,855
I mean, I remember,
I remember one time,
294
00:20:00,857 --> 00:20:03,491
I was about 15, couldn't
have been older than 15,
295
00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:05,559
I was coming home from football
and I go through the park
296
00:20:05,561 --> 00:20:07,927
to get back to my house and
297
00:20:07,929 --> 00:20:09,896
there was no light, just
a little bit of moonlight
298
00:20:09,898 --> 00:20:12,532
and there's no one around,
there's no one around,
299
00:20:12,534 --> 00:20:15,001
out of nowhere I start
hearing this noise,
300
00:20:32,855 --> 00:20:34,558
it's terrifying,
it's terrifying.
301
00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:37,590
I don't know what it was,
well I found out what it was,
302
00:20:37,592 --> 00:20:39,260
it was a dog doing another
dog but up until that point,
303
00:20:39,262 --> 00:20:41,598
it was horrific,
thought it was witches
304
00:20:42,798 --> 00:20:44,665
but it was just dogs screwing.
305
00:20:44,667 --> 00:20:46,267
I mean, over the years
I've heard of no supernatural
306
00:20:46,269 --> 00:20:49,136
occurrences in the church, we've
had some unusual incidents,
307
00:20:49,138 --> 00:20:51,305
I mean, I can remember being
there at a wedding where
308
00:20:51,307 --> 00:20:54,942
the three bridesmaids were
busy being sick in the vestry
309
00:20:54,944 --> 00:20:56,644
on their way into the
church but that was down
310
00:20:56,646 --> 00:20:59,980
to a hen night rather than
anything supernatural occurring.
311
00:20:59,982 --> 00:21:02,715
I mean, there have been stories
about supernatural things
312
00:21:02,717 --> 00:21:06,252
and witchcraft locally,
those stories that we used
313
00:21:06,254 --> 00:21:09,155
to get from time to time
in the local newspaper
314
00:21:09,157 --> 00:21:11,291
and we've had stories
going back over the years.
315
00:21:11,293 --> 00:21:15,061
I remember there was a
cell of satanic worshipers
316
00:21:15,063 --> 00:21:19,199
in the Kidwelly area but
there have been these stories
317
00:21:19,201 --> 00:21:22,836
circulating but nothing identified
with the church itself,
318
00:21:22,838 --> 00:21:26,072
certainly, I've never heard
any story of supernatural
319
00:21:26,074 --> 00:21:27,107
activity there.
320
00:21:40,622 --> 00:21:42,225
This is so scary.
321
00:21:44,593 --> 00:21:45,227
Okay?
322
00:22:14,357 --> 00:22:16,593
Oh shit, there's bats.
323
00:22:35,677 --> 00:22:37,647
Does that work?
324
00:22:40,416 --> 00:22:41,850
There's no key.
325
00:22:43,185 --> 00:22:46,220
It's okay, we'll
find another way.
326
00:22:46,222 --> 00:22:48,291
Come on, don't be scared.
327
00:23:11,781 --> 00:23:16,786
Where the
is that coming from?
328
00:23:17,186 --> 00:23:19,353
It's haunted.
329
00:23:19,355 --> 00:23:21,789
It's not haunted.
330
00:23:21,791 --> 00:23:23,022
It's not fucking haunted.
331
00:23:23,024 --> 00:23:24,157
There's
no electricity,
332
00:23:24,159 --> 00:23:25,192
there's no generator,
it's haunted.
333
00:23:25,194 --> 00:23:26,026
Are you okay?
334
00:23:26,028 --> 00:23:27,097
Yeah, yeah.
335
00:23:28,063 --> 00:23:29,229
It's haunted.
336
00:23:29,231 --> 00:23:30,463
It's not haunted,
it's a radio.
337
00:23:30,465 --> 00:23:32,398
There's no electricity.
338
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,701
I can't deal with this.
339
00:23:33,703 --> 00:23:34,334
What, Ceri.
340
00:23:34,336 --> 00:23:35,301
Ceri?
341
00:23:35,303 --> 00:23:36,470
Go get him.
342
00:23:36,472 --> 00:23:38,708
You get him.
343
00:23:59,094 --> 00:24:01,794
Alright so, this is,
344
00:24:01,796 --> 00:24:03,763
they're outside the
church, they're coming up
345
00:24:03,765 --> 00:24:06,834
to one of the
entrances and they hear
346
00:24:06,836 --> 00:24:10,436
what they believe to
be music, organ music,
347
00:24:10,438 --> 00:24:11,440
something like that.
348
00:24:13,842 --> 00:24:16,111
You know, that could be
coming from anywhere.
349
00:24:16,946 --> 00:24:19,715
Radios, mobile phones,
350
00:24:22,217 --> 00:24:25,284
sound at night travels
very funny and you can have
351
00:24:25,286 --> 00:24:27,855
something that sounds like
it's coming from one direction,
352
00:24:27,857 --> 00:24:29,522
be coming from somewhere
entirely different.
353
00:24:29,524 --> 00:24:32,392
They say they felt that
it was coming from inside
354
00:24:32,394 --> 00:24:35,863
the church, there's really
no way to tell on what
355
00:24:35,865 --> 00:24:37,196
we have here.
356
00:24:37,198 --> 00:24:41,705
I ran back to the hotel
because I got scared and I
357
00:24:42,303 --> 00:24:45,539
wet myself and I
358
00:24:45,541 --> 00:24:47,877
checked out and I went home.
359
00:25:05,528 --> 00:25:06,763
Okay.
360
00:25:21,142 --> 00:25:22,811
It's fucking open.
361
00:25:35,023 --> 00:25:36,557
Yes, of course.
362
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:40,159
Okay, then I'm
telling you guys, it's haunted.
363
00:25:40,161 --> 00:25:43,896
Come on, you guys,
this is creepy.
364
00:25:43,898 --> 00:25:46,136
This is a serious ghost
if Rhod was right.
365
00:25:50,472 --> 00:25:52,975
Well, Jamie, Jamie
instigates everything.
366
00:25:55,144 --> 00:26:00,079
Sort of, she's like a
medical model of impulse
367
00:26:00,081 --> 00:26:05,021
control disorder and I
realize I suggested some of
368
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,792
this stuff so I feel like
369
00:26:10,892 --> 00:26:12,961
maybe I should take
more responsibility for
370
00:26:14,396 --> 00:26:18,467
that but, I wasn't the one
pushing everyone to go.
371
00:26:19,869 --> 00:26:22,034
Did y'all see Ceri,
he just literally peed
372
00:26:22,036 --> 00:26:23,505
his pants and ran away.
373
00:26:25,573 --> 00:26:27,875
Where is he today?
374
00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:30,543
I don't know, I haven't
seen him since he ran away,
375
00:26:30,545 --> 00:26:32,078
literally I've not seen him.
376
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,615
I guess he screened his
film so he doesn't really
377
00:26:34,617 --> 00:26:35,449
need to come back.
378
00:26:35,451 --> 00:26:36,884
Apparently.
379
00:26:36,886 --> 00:26:38,652
Well, here we are,
380
00:26:38,654 --> 00:26:40,988
entrepreneur gone to the
great cinema gods in the sky.
381
00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:42,292
I thought his film was good.
382
00:26:43,458 --> 00:26:46,461
Gary didn't think
it was good.
383
00:26:48,296 --> 00:26:49,565
We had words.
384
00:26:50,432 --> 00:26:52,165
I told him where I stood on it.
385
00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:54,233
It's no surprise we
haven't seen him today.
386
00:26:54,235 --> 00:26:56,636
I think everybody
heard your words.
387
00:26:56,638 --> 00:26:58,605
We should phone the
police or something though,
388
00:26:58,607 --> 00:27:01,407
we should go and talk
to someone about Ceri,
389
00:27:01,409 --> 00:27:03,076
this is a bit odd
that he's not here,
390
00:27:03,078 --> 00:27:05,481
especially after going
to the church last night.
391
00:27:06,514 --> 00:27:07,347
That church is...
392
00:27:07,349 --> 00:27:08,949
Did you mention?
393
00:27:08,951 --> 00:27:12,286
I haven't said anything,
we scared him a little bit,
394
00:27:12,288 --> 00:27:13,552
just a little bit.
395
00:27:13,554 --> 00:27:16,956
Yeah, I think if like
a family member of mine
396
00:27:16,958 --> 00:27:19,358
had gone to a spooky,
perhaps haunted church,
397
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,494
after being utterly
humiliated in front
398
00:27:21,496 --> 00:27:24,097
of an entire film
festival, than, you know,
399
00:27:24,099 --> 00:27:25,699
I could worry for their safety.
400
00:27:25,701 --> 00:27:29,305
Well, it was, it's
not that abandoned.
401
00:27:31,506 --> 00:27:35,943
There was music, classical
music playing in the church,
402
00:27:35,945 --> 00:27:36,676
no kidding.
403
00:27:36,678 --> 00:27:38,044
We all heard it.
404
00:27:38,046 --> 00:27:38,678
It was there.
405
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,980
Right, okay.
406
00:27:39,982 --> 00:27:42,081
Organist practice?
407
00:27:42,083 --> 00:27:43,684
A half one in the morning.
408
00:27:43,686 --> 00:27:44,952
Exactly.
409
00:27:44,954 --> 00:27:46,019
In a church that's
been abandoned.
410
00:27:46,021 --> 00:27:47,287
Late organist practice.
411
00:27:47,289 --> 00:27:50,324
In an abandoned church
that's completely, yeah,
412
00:27:50,326 --> 00:27:52,358
no, we tried to get in
but it freaked us out,
413
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:53,292
we couldn't, uh-uh.
414
00:27:53,294 --> 00:27:56,329
Oh god, it must be ghosts.
415
00:27:56,331 --> 00:27:57,731
Is there a band?
416
00:27:57,733 --> 00:28:00,099
Maybe the ghosts are
making a band and
417
00:28:00,101 --> 00:28:01,600
there's gonna be a
Christmas single.
418
00:28:01,602 --> 00:28:03,403
It worked, we were hearing
a variety of instruments,
419
00:28:03,405 --> 00:28:04,941
so you know, it's possible.
420
00:28:05,741 --> 00:28:08,075
Come on, seriously,
that place is haunted.
421
00:28:08,077 --> 00:28:10,510
There's music in there,
there's no electricity,
422
00:28:10,512 --> 00:28:12,713
there's no possible
way that anybody
423
00:28:12,715 --> 00:28:14,580
could have been in there and
you guys heard the music.
424
00:28:14,582 --> 00:28:17,550
We have an iPhone
video of the music.
425
00:28:17,552 --> 00:28:20,020
You laugh though but
it's part of our culture,
426
00:28:20,022 --> 00:28:23,690
it's part of our heritage,
it's part of our history,
427
00:28:23,692 --> 00:28:25,595
paganism, druidism.
428
00:28:27,061 --> 00:28:28,095
The scaring of tourists,
429
00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:29,232
that's part of our...
430
00:28:30,099 --> 00:28:31,464
Leaving radios on in churches.
431
00:28:31,466 --> 00:28:32,632
Yeah.
432
00:28:32,634 --> 00:28:35,034
It was a piano player,
it wasn't a radio.
433
00:28:35,036 --> 00:28:36,235
It was not a radio.
434
00:28:36,237 --> 00:28:39,106
I'm telling you, there
was nobody there.
435
00:28:39,108 --> 00:28:40,507
You guys weren't
there, you don't,
436
00:28:40,509 --> 00:28:42,442
you know what, we're
gonna have to go,
437
00:28:42,444 --> 00:28:43,276
we're going tonight.
438
00:28:43,278 --> 00:28:45,044
Are you up for it?
439
00:28:45,046 --> 00:28:46,445
Absolutely not.
440
00:28:46,447 --> 00:28:48,080
You think
you can handle it?
441
00:28:48,082 --> 00:28:50,617
If you all are scared
to go, we can just forget
442
00:28:50,619 --> 00:28:52,118
this ever happened because...
443
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,021
Ah, classic
reverse psychology.
444
00:28:54,023 --> 00:28:55,222
It's going to
end up on YouTube.
445
00:28:55,224 --> 00:28:57,324
Then we're just gonna tease
you for the rest of your lives
446
00:28:57,326 --> 00:28:58,724
because of it.
447
00:28:58,726 --> 00:29:00,626
That's brilliant thinking
but I'm not gonna be
448
00:29:00,628 --> 00:29:03,966
Fred to your Shaggy,
Gary's not gonna be Scooby.
449
00:29:06,201 --> 00:29:07,733
Alright, I'll get
it done, hurry, Egon,
450
00:29:07,735 --> 00:29:08,570
fetch the proton packs.
451
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,505
We should tell someone
that we're going.
452
00:29:12,507 --> 00:29:13,673
Will
there be ectoplasm?
453
00:29:13,675 --> 00:29:15,041
Do you wanna go down?
454
00:29:15,043 --> 00:29:16,042
I'm gonna go down, yeah.
455
00:29:16,044 --> 00:29:17,444
You wanna see it?
456
00:29:17,446 --> 00:29:19,078
I'd like to make
contact with some spirits
457
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,280
that are down there, definitely.
458
00:29:22,350 --> 00:29:24,283
Stay where you are, I'll
get you a double Jack Daniels.
459
00:29:25,454 --> 00:29:27,186
Yeah, I don't
care, I'm used to it,
460
00:29:27,188 --> 00:29:29,655
people always tend
to take the Mick,
461
00:29:29,657 --> 00:29:33,225
until you've seen what
I've seen, then jog on.
462
00:29:33,227 --> 00:29:34,162
Well, what have you seen?
463
00:29:35,296 --> 00:29:37,129
Why don't you tell the camera?
464
00:29:37,131 --> 00:29:39,132
Can we, yeah.
465
00:29:39,134 --> 00:29:40,634
Get that single.
466
00:29:40,636 --> 00:29:43,103
Broadcast it, we need
to know about this,
467
00:29:43,105 --> 00:29:44,303
the world needs to know.
468
00:29:44,305 --> 00:29:45,539
The world needs to know.
469
00:29:45,541 --> 00:29:47,206
During the time
of the Black Death,
470
00:29:47,208 --> 00:29:48,443
a few centuries ago,
471
00:29:49,645 --> 00:29:52,111
all the children in
the local village
472
00:29:52,113 --> 00:29:55,816
disappeared overnight, no
one ever saw them again.
473
00:29:55,818 --> 00:29:57,416
It's been quite well documented,
474
00:29:57,418 --> 00:30:01,221
there's been many
books, documentaries,
475
00:30:01,223 --> 00:30:06,229
TV programs about it, it's
very well known here in Wales.
476
00:30:07,628 --> 00:30:11,164
I mean, Wales itself is
got a history of witchcraft
477
00:30:11,166 --> 00:30:16,172
and paganism, during the, I
think it was the 17th century,
478
00:30:17,473 --> 00:30:21,474
when the crusades were
happening, all the English were
479
00:30:21,476 --> 00:30:22,842
burning their
witches to the stake
480
00:30:22,844 --> 00:30:25,479
but in Wales, we would
welcome them and we would
481
00:30:25,481 --> 00:30:28,447
give them safe haven and
482
00:30:28,449 --> 00:30:31,784
so yeah, I know a lot
of people find it funny
483
00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:34,354
and they think it's a bit
silly and a lot of people
484
00:30:34,356 --> 00:30:36,426
don't believe it but
485
00:30:38,426 --> 00:30:41,263
it did happen, it's
part of our history and
486
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:46,633
I seriously don't believe
that people should
487
00:30:46,635 --> 00:30:48,300
be so quick to judge.
488
00:30:48,302 --> 00:30:49,237
I think they should
489
00:30:50,738 --> 00:30:53,341
come down and experience it
and make up their own mind.
490
00:30:55,610 --> 00:30:56,542
Are we doing this?
491
00:30:56,544 --> 00:30:57,743
Yes.
492
00:30:57,745 --> 00:30:58,578
Are we going?
493
00:30:58,580 --> 00:31:00,180
You're up for it?
494
00:31:00,182 --> 00:31:01,048
It sounds like the beginning
495
00:31:01,050 --> 00:31:02,717
of the worst horror
movie ever.
496
00:31:04,919 --> 00:31:08,555
I'm really not up for
it but I can be bribed.
497
00:31:08,557 --> 00:31:11,524
I'm definitely gonna
bribe you because I wanna go
498
00:31:11,526 --> 00:31:14,261
and I just feel like we
all should go as a group,
499
00:31:14,263 --> 00:31:15,195
you know, so that...
500
00:31:15,197 --> 00:31:17,263
There's a magic word
that can make me come.
501
00:31:17,265 --> 00:31:17,897
Please?
502
00:31:17,899 --> 00:31:18,932
Okay, new word.
503
00:31:18,934 --> 00:31:19,899
Please?
504
00:31:19,901 --> 00:31:22,935
That word is open bar.
505
00:31:22,937 --> 00:31:25,638
Yeah, I mean, basically, I
walk past the building everyday
506
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,242
on my way to work, so you
know, it's been in estate
507
00:31:29,244 --> 00:31:31,744
for about 10 years or so, it
hasn't been used for anything,
508
00:31:31,746 --> 00:31:35,248
so we've done stories fairly
regularly with the paper,
509
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:36,786
calling for it to be cleaned up
510
00:31:38,954 --> 00:31:41,855
and then this happened, so
it was pretty sad really
511
00:31:41,857 --> 00:31:43,857
and yeah, it was really
mysterious when we heard
512
00:31:43,859 --> 00:31:47,330
that they'd gone missing
right after the film festival.
513
00:31:48,530 --> 00:31:50,666
We didn't know what to
think about it, really.
514
00:31:52,301 --> 00:31:54,369
You know, the fact that no
trace of them has been found,
515
00:31:55,803 --> 00:31:56,970
obviously the church
fire happening
516
00:31:56,972 --> 00:31:59,142
so soon afterwards as well,
517
00:32:01,642 --> 00:32:05,511
but yeah, it drew a lot of
interest to Llanelli here.
518
00:32:05,513 --> 00:32:08,214
Again, there's been a lot
of theories floating about
519
00:32:08,216 --> 00:32:09,515
on what happened to them,
whether it was something
520
00:32:09,517 --> 00:32:11,684
paranormal or whether
it's just some sort
521
00:32:11,686 --> 00:32:12,821
of elaborate hoax but
522
00:32:14,388 --> 00:32:15,888
I guess time will
tell, you know?
523
00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:19,225
I believe that maybe at
first, the filmmakers going
524
00:32:19,227 --> 00:32:22,995
in there were intending to be
foul play and then ended up
525
00:32:22,997 --> 00:32:26,768
to be supernatural means
of them actually dying.
526
00:32:28,003 --> 00:32:32,405
I've had a few experiences
that made me believe
527
00:32:32,407 --> 00:32:33,873
in the supernatural.
528
00:32:33,875 --> 00:32:36,776
I've been around friends,
we've had the Ouija board and
529
00:32:36,778 --> 00:32:39,945
I've had weird marks left
on them because of it
530
00:32:39,947 --> 00:32:42,281
that they can't explain
and just things around that
531
00:32:42,283 --> 00:32:46,552
that really spook me
out and make me believe.
532
00:32:46,554 --> 00:32:49,255
Was there any
supernatural aspect to it?
533
00:32:49,257 --> 00:32:50,790
I don't think so.
534
00:32:50,792 --> 00:32:55,363
I mean, it was, it was solely
motivated by greed, I think,
535
00:32:56,631 --> 00:32:59,201
just after money, I mean,
I've heard some things about
536
00:33:01,003 --> 00:33:04,003
some supernatural aspects
of the church itself
537
00:33:04,005 --> 00:33:06,438
but I don't think that had
anything to do with it,
538
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,840
to be honest.
539
00:33:07,842 --> 00:33:12,378
Well, I've had an
experience, not in the city,
540
00:33:12,380 --> 00:33:14,780
in the past I can't
explain and I know friends
541
00:33:14,782 --> 00:33:17,450
of mine have had experiences,
especially the friends
542
00:33:17,452 --> 00:33:19,589
who live in the
area in Llanelli and
543
00:33:20,921 --> 00:33:23,790
yeah, I mean, I can understand
why people would think
544
00:33:23,792 --> 00:33:26,026
that it would be something
supernatural because
545
00:33:26,028 --> 00:33:27,694
there's a lot of
things that go on,
546
00:33:27,696 --> 00:33:29,361
there's a lot of haunted
places in Llanelli and stuff
547
00:33:29,363 --> 00:33:31,330
like that and there's
reason for that.
548
00:33:31,332 --> 00:33:32,199
It's the history.
549
00:33:32,201 --> 00:33:35,367
With all of the
increase in break-ins
550
00:33:35,369 --> 00:33:37,771
to religious centers,
churches, over the last
551
00:33:37,773 --> 00:33:39,973
couple of years
throughout Wales,
552
00:33:39,975 --> 00:33:44,981
locals are concerned that
the events that took place
553
00:33:45,847 --> 00:33:49,348
might be attributable to
554
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:53,919
dark arts, to witchcraft,
disappearances,
555
00:33:53,921 --> 00:33:58,927
mysterious church fire, it
is an unusual circumstance.
556
00:34:02,496 --> 00:34:05,400
I've spent most of my whole life
557
00:34:06,702 --> 00:34:09,772
dealing with the
issue of faith and
558
00:34:10,971 --> 00:34:13,408
believing things you can't see
559
00:34:16,610 --> 00:34:21,616
and there are
things in this story
560
00:34:24,118 --> 00:34:26,388
that I don't understand.
561
00:34:37,766 --> 00:34:38,601
Made it.
562
00:34:46,775 --> 00:34:50,546
This place smells like
my Grandma's cellar.
563
00:35:11,165 --> 00:35:16,371
A piece of
paper, look at this.
564
00:35:41,061 --> 00:35:43,398
Look, a fire extinguisher.
565
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,735
But there's
nothing to burn.
566
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,507
Except us.
567
00:35:54,509 --> 00:35:55,411
We can catch fire.
568
00:35:58,746 --> 00:36:02,081
If these filmmakers are
investigating the church
569
00:36:02,083 --> 00:36:06,686
out of fun and encountering
locals playing pranks,
570
00:36:06,688 --> 00:36:11,190
pulling tricks, that's
harmless, it's a bit of
571
00:36:11,192 --> 00:36:15,895
midnight mischief but if
there really is something
572
00:36:15,897 --> 00:36:17,500
supernatural going on there,
573
00:36:18,699 --> 00:36:21,534
I don't believe they fully
understand the danger
574
00:36:21,536 --> 00:36:22,605
they're walking into.
575
00:36:33,014 --> 00:36:34,179
Why do people have
the entire floor
576
00:36:34,181 --> 00:36:35,181
and just stay in the corner?
577
00:36:35,183 --> 00:36:37,951
I think people
pee in bottles and like
578
00:36:37,953 --> 00:36:40,085
leave their bottles in here.
579
00:36:40,087 --> 00:36:41,154
Try it.
580
00:36:47,228 --> 00:36:48,228
Oh my god.
581
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:50,065
What is this?
582
00:37:14,723 --> 00:37:18,590
Witches were often ascribed
of having magical powers
583
00:37:18,592 --> 00:37:23,598
to do good or evil, even to
the extent of creating illness.
584
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,101
Massive plagues were often
attributed to the presence
585
00:37:29,103 --> 00:37:32,572
of witches or those who
practiced the dark arts.
586
00:37:32,574 --> 00:37:34,607
The Black Plague, for example,
587
00:37:34,609 --> 00:37:38,777
there were those that felt
that there was a evil element
588
00:37:38,779 --> 00:37:40,279
to the Black Plague.
589
00:37:40,281 --> 00:37:44,583
Physicians of the time would
wear masks, hideous masks,
590
00:37:44,585 --> 00:37:47,619
designed to ward
off the evil spirits
591
00:37:47,621 --> 00:37:51,627
which might be
contributing to the plague.
592
00:37:53,261 --> 00:37:56,563
Guys, the floor is
rotting, be careful.
593
00:38:04,605 --> 00:38:05,874
Wow, oh my god.
594
00:38:09,944 --> 00:38:11,779
This whole place
is falling apart.
595
00:38:12,947 --> 00:38:14,116
I wonder how many
rooms there are?
596
00:38:46,181 --> 00:38:50,616
Alright, this doll that we
see that keeps popping up here,
597
00:38:50,618 --> 00:38:54,320
it looks like it could
be a poppet doll,
598
00:38:54,322 --> 00:38:59,328
an effigy, in witchcraft, a
doll like this would be created
599
00:39:00,728 --> 00:39:02,628
to represent a person.
600
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:04,396
It would be made out of straw or
601
00:39:04,398 --> 00:39:08,136
old fabric or even
herbs or potatoes
602
00:39:10,705 --> 00:39:14,072
and you would do things
to the doll with the hope
603
00:39:14,074 --> 00:39:18,614
in the black arts that
what you do to the doll
604
00:39:19,813 --> 00:39:23,416
would happen to the person
that doll represents.
605
00:39:23,418 --> 00:39:26,219
If somebody's
making a poppet doll
606
00:39:26,221 --> 00:39:30,759
and going to this much attention
and detail to make one,
607
00:39:33,862 --> 00:39:36,799
I'm wondering what
else they're doing?
608
00:39:46,875 --> 00:39:47,710
Oh!
609
00:39:49,710 --> 00:39:50,878
I-yi-yi-yi.
610
00:39:54,815 --> 00:39:56,784
Oh, it's the electronics room.
611
00:40:26,447 --> 00:40:27,683
Organ.
612
00:40:35,489 --> 00:40:36,725
Organ.
613
00:40:46,234 --> 00:40:47,199
That's completely not,
614
00:40:47,201 --> 00:40:48,800
oh my god, no, no, a shovel,
615
00:40:48,802 --> 00:40:50,869
we can shovel the bodies.
616
00:41:04,118 --> 00:41:06,220
Guys, oh, I found a book.
617
00:41:14,895 --> 00:41:15,997
Scary shit.
618
00:41:17,197 --> 00:41:18,032
Scary stuff.
619
00:41:19,032 --> 00:41:20,500
Oh, wow.
620
00:41:20,502 --> 00:41:22,737
I found a shovel to
bury the bodies.
621
00:41:41,889 --> 00:41:43,855
What do
you guys think then?
622
00:41:43,857 --> 00:41:45,056
Think?
623
00:41:45,058 --> 00:41:46,793
About the place?
624
00:41:46,795 --> 00:41:50,329
I think we've stepped into
an obvious haunted church,
625
00:41:50,331 --> 00:41:52,030
it's obvious.
626
00:41:52,032 --> 00:41:53,299
It's completely haunted.
627
00:41:53,301 --> 00:41:55,233
These ghost have run
amok, they've destroyed
628
00:41:55,235 --> 00:41:58,139
all this furniture, they've
played some.
629
00:41:59,907 --> 00:42:01,009
These guys like burnt.
630
00:42:03,076 --> 00:42:04,876
You can everywhere.
631
00:42:04,878 --> 00:42:06,882
This looks, look at
that circle down there.
632
00:42:09,951 --> 00:42:11,183
Rhod, do
you think that's where
633
00:42:11,185 --> 00:42:12,552
people were sacrificed?
634
00:42:12,554 --> 00:42:16,054
Yeah, I
reckon that sacrificial,
635
00:42:16,056 --> 00:42:17,556
of paint.
636
00:42:17,558 --> 00:42:19,358
Yeah, it looks like
paint and he's volunteered
637
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,826
himself to be sacrificed.
638
00:42:20,828 --> 00:42:22,830
Nobody break the circle
or the evil gets out,
639
00:42:23,831 --> 00:42:24,931
whoops.
640
00:42:27,435 --> 00:42:30,837
Alright, so here they're
coming into this room here
641
00:42:30,839 --> 00:42:34,139
in the church and if you
look down at the floor,
642
00:42:34,141 --> 00:42:38,980
you'll see a circle,
basically someone had poured
643
00:42:40,447 --> 00:42:43,949
white in a circle on the floor.
644
00:42:43,951 --> 00:42:47,453
I think that this proves
definitively that somebody
645
00:42:47,455 --> 00:42:50,255
had a discount on
paint available to them
646
00:42:50,257 --> 00:42:51,891
and was able to put
it on the floor,
647
00:42:51,893 --> 00:42:53,358
that's all it proves.
648
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,366
Everything I'm doing,
everyday is me trying to find
649
00:42:59,534 --> 00:43:02,101
my friends, those
people, those people,
650
00:43:02,103 --> 00:43:06,873
Gary, Trev, the other one and
651
00:43:06,875 --> 00:43:09,641
it's my mission, it's my reason,
652
00:43:09,643 --> 00:43:11,446
that's French,
653
00:43:12,547 --> 00:43:15,146
to find them and
it's important to me,
654
00:43:15,148 --> 00:43:19,384
I'm passionate about
it and I'm bored,
655
00:43:19,386 --> 00:43:21,052
I got nothing else
to do at home,
656
00:43:21,054 --> 00:43:22,587
so I meant as well try
to find my dead friends
657
00:43:22,589 --> 00:43:24,859
or alive, whatever.
658
00:43:26,027 --> 00:43:28,996
Well, the group of filmmakers
that went into the church,
659
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:32,530
I do hope that they're okay,
I mean, I think they are,
660
00:43:32,532 --> 00:43:34,166
one of them is a
good friend of mine
661
00:43:34,168 --> 00:43:36,235
and I think they're just scared.
662
00:43:36,237 --> 00:43:37,603
I mean, the church burnt down,
663
00:43:37,605 --> 00:43:39,105
they probably don't wanna
be caught up in that
664
00:43:39,107 --> 00:43:40,572
and I don't blame
them for that but
665
00:43:40,574 --> 00:43:43,342
I mean, he disappears
from time to time anyway,
666
00:43:43,344 --> 00:43:45,614
he's like that, it happens,
667
00:43:46,947 --> 00:43:48,648
so I just think
that they're hiding,
668
00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:51,016
keeping low while
this is all going on
669
00:43:51,018 --> 00:43:52,985
and then, maybe we'll get some
footage later on from them,
670
00:43:52,987 --> 00:43:54,253
who knows, you know?
671
00:43:54,255 --> 00:43:55,487
What do
you think then, guys?
672
00:43:55,489 --> 00:43:59,291
Do you wanna try and
contact some spirits?
673
00:43:59,293 --> 00:44:01,629
Ah yeah, let's
contact some spirits.
674
00:44:03,031 --> 00:44:04,663
I didn't bring my
Ouija board with me.
675
00:44:04,665 --> 00:44:05,297
What?
676
00:44:05,299 --> 00:44:06,398
We don't need that.
677
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,565
We don't?
678
00:44:07,567 --> 00:44:08,668
No,
that's child's play.
679
00:44:08,670 --> 00:44:09,501
Okay.
680
00:44:09,503 --> 00:44:10,936
We can try
it in the circle,
681
00:44:10,938 --> 00:44:12,003
should we try it in the circle?
682
00:44:12,005 --> 00:44:13,438
Yeah.
683
00:44:20,081 --> 00:44:22,148
Did you hear that?
684
00:44:53,547 --> 00:44:55,181
Hello?
685
00:44:55,183 --> 00:44:58,150
Hello?
686
00:44:58,152 --> 00:44:58,985
Rhodri?
687
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:00,389
Hello?
688
00:45:07,295 --> 00:45:08,997
I'm sure I just
saw someone then.
689
00:45:10,397 --> 00:45:11,563
What?
690
00:45:11,565 --> 00:45:12,732
I'm sure
I just saw someone.
691
00:45:12,734 --> 00:45:14,300
What, where?
692
00:45:14,302 --> 00:45:17,139
Over
here, have a look.
693
00:45:21,509 --> 00:45:23,208
Look, come and have a
look at the footage,
694
00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:24,513
I'll just put it
back, hang on one sec.
695
00:45:31,451 --> 00:45:33,187
Look,
here's another one.
696
00:45:34,621 --> 00:45:36,721
There's one here
that has stuff written on it.
697
00:45:36,723 --> 00:45:41,228
It says, "A view of the
crypt," and this one's
698
00:45:42,362 --> 00:45:45,264
drawn a picture of the,
what used to be the
699
00:45:45,266 --> 00:45:47,034
stained glass window, I assume.
700
00:45:48,036 --> 00:45:48,634
What?
701
00:45:48,636 --> 00:45:49,735
What?
702
00:45:49,737 --> 00:45:52,474
Yeah, there, it
says, "A view of the crypt."
703
00:45:54,107 --> 00:45:55,174
Wow, that's freaky.
704
00:45:55,176 --> 00:45:59,244
And they did,
it's, that's kind of creepy.
705
00:45:59,246 --> 00:46:02,280
What are, I can't read this.
706
00:46:02,282 --> 00:46:07,154
Something love, what are
you waiting for, maybe...
707
00:46:08,288 --> 00:46:09,621
Hi, I'm
using a big puzzle.
708
00:46:14,261 --> 00:46:16,594
Oh my god.
709
00:46:16,596 --> 00:46:19,197
I'm getting bored
already, can we just,
710
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:20,167
can we do a seance?
711
00:46:21,802 --> 00:46:23,436
Well, it's not
called a seance anymore
712
00:46:23,438 --> 00:46:25,837
but I can try and
contact some spirits.
713
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:27,239
Yeah?
714
00:46:27,241 --> 00:46:28,474
Have you done that before?
715
00:46:28,476 --> 00:46:30,476
Yeah,
many times, yeah.
716
00:46:30,478 --> 00:46:33,112
Are you sure you wanna do this?
717
00:46:33,114 --> 00:46:34,746
Yeah.
718
00:46:34,748 --> 00:46:37,685
Guys, should we
contact some spirits?
719
00:46:39,654 --> 00:46:41,686
Yeah, so the
group of filmmakers,
720
00:46:41,688 --> 00:46:43,088
in terms of them missing,
721
00:46:43,090 --> 00:46:44,723
I think they're
probably in their room,
722
00:46:44,725 --> 00:46:46,627
it's probably a publicity act.
723
00:46:48,096 --> 00:46:50,829
I'd like to think that anyway
but if they are missing then,
724
00:46:50,831 --> 00:46:52,100
that's really bad.
725
00:46:52,632 --> 00:46:54,132
So one of the
police have said, oh,
726
00:46:54,134 --> 00:46:55,333
it might be a publicity stunt.
727
00:46:55,335 --> 00:46:56,569
They just faked their
own disappearance.
728
00:46:56,571 --> 00:46:58,369
There's a lot of things
those people would do
729
00:46:58,371 --> 00:47:01,607
for a publicity stunt, like
eat like the most ribs ever,
730
00:47:01,609 --> 00:47:03,375
there's one or
drink all the lager,
731
00:47:03,377 --> 00:47:04,777
I've seen them do that,
that was in the paper,
732
00:47:04,779 --> 00:47:08,050
well done them but to
fake your disappearance,
733
00:47:10,784 --> 00:47:14,320
yeah, no, that
could be it, yeah.
734
00:47:14,322 --> 00:47:15,820
Though actually
being there yourself
735
00:47:15,822 --> 00:47:19,391
and experiencing the situation,
just by looking at footage,
736
00:47:19,393 --> 00:47:21,228
I know some people say that
737
00:47:22,462 --> 00:47:24,529
these people have kind
of vanished off the face
738
00:47:24,531 --> 00:47:26,898
of the Earth and all
that kind of stuff and
739
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:30,835
I think, personally,
that they decided just to
740
00:47:30,837 --> 00:47:32,440
go home, you know?
741
00:47:34,241 --> 00:47:35,708
I didn't
bring any candles.
742
00:47:35,710 --> 00:47:37,208
There's one
over there, I saw one,
743
00:47:37,210 --> 00:47:40,246
somebody's obviously
already utilized them.
744
00:47:40,248 --> 00:47:41,913
Alright, so what I
will need you to do
745
00:47:41,915 --> 00:47:43,916
is just open your minds.
746
00:47:43,918 --> 00:47:44,983
Okay.
747
00:47:44,985 --> 00:47:47,186
Okay, try not
to think negative thoughts.
748
00:47:47,188 --> 00:47:47,887
No negative.
749
00:47:47,889 --> 00:47:48,820
Just clear your mind.
750
00:47:48,822 --> 00:47:50,422
Too late.
751
00:47:50,424 --> 00:47:51,857
Be open minded.
752
00:47:51,859 --> 00:47:53,261
Oh, my brain fell out.
753
00:47:55,496 --> 00:47:57,165
Okay, here it goes.
754
00:48:00,601 --> 00:48:03,235
If there are any
spirits in this room,
755
00:48:03,237 --> 00:48:06,208
please make yourselves
known to us.
756
00:48:07,375 --> 00:48:09,277
We come in peace,
we mean no harm.
757
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,417
Please, make yourselves known.
758
00:48:18,886 --> 00:48:20,351
Did you hear that?
759
00:48:20,353 --> 00:48:21,920
I heard something.
760
00:48:21,922 --> 00:48:24,658
I heard something, did
you hear guys that?
761
00:48:25,625 --> 00:48:27,192
Can we just keep going?
762
00:48:27,194 --> 00:48:29,862
Is there
any spirits out here?
763
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:33,234
Oh, yeah.
764
00:48:35,235 --> 00:48:38,306
Please get in contact
by making noise.
765
00:48:40,975 --> 00:48:43,310
Please let yourselves
be known to us.
766
00:48:44,578 --> 00:48:45,779
We mean no harm.
767
00:48:49,282 --> 00:48:50,418
We just want to
communicate with you.
768
00:48:51,886 --> 00:48:54,219
What's going on?
769
00:48:54,221 --> 00:48:56,457
Payton, is everything cool?
770
00:48:59,659 --> 00:49:04,165
I don't remember who's
idea the seance was but
771
00:49:05,398 --> 00:49:06,500
that was,
772
00:49:07,935 --> 00:49:09,735
I think it was
just a stupid idea,
773
00:49:09,737 --> 00:49:12,174
if it genuinely
caused what it caused.
774
00:49:12,973 --> 00:49:14,475
Well, yeah, she's got,
775
00:49:17,545 --> 00:49:19,648
DID is what they call it now but
776
00:49:20,714 --> 00:49:23,916
it's multiple
personality thing so,
777
00:49:23,918 --> 00:49:27,522
that's why I'm still kind of
778
00:49:30,991 --> 00:49:32,426
I don't want to say obsessed.
779
00:49:33,493 --> 00:49:35,896
I'm still interested because
780
00:49:37,264 --> 00:49:41,936
I can't be sure who it was
that broke up the relationship.
781
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,489
Alright, we should
quit doing this now.
782
00:50:11,331 --> 00:50:13,699
Please, if you're
affecting one of our group,
783
00:50:13,701 --> 00:50:14,699
please stop it now.
784
00:50:14,701 --> 00:50:16,337
You're affecting her.
785
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:20,371
She's messing around.
786
00:50:20,373 --> 00:50:23,308
No, she's not,
something's wrong with her.
787
00:50:23,310 --> 00:50:24,643
Payton, you okay?
788
00:50:24,645 --> 00:50:26,547
Please take it
off our group member now.
789
00:50:29,616 --> 00:50:30,581
You okay?
790
00:50:36,324 --> 00:50:37,290
She's just doing that.
791
00:50:37,292 --> 00:50:40,058
No, she's not,
she's having anxiety.
792
00:50:40,060 --> 00:50:42,329
Yeah, well, she heard it too.
793
00:50:43,563 --> 00:50:46,268
She's visibly upset.
794
00:50:51,672 --> 00:50:53,438
She doesn't even
have her light on.
795
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,741
Payton?
796
00:50:55,743 --> 00:50:57,875
Apart from this night,
do you know how many years
797
00:50:57,877 --> 00:50:59,513
people have been trying
to get something on tape?
798
00:51:00,413 --> 00:51:01,646
Years, since tape was invented.
799
00:51:01,648 --> 00:51:04,418
This is great for my education.
800
00:51:05,386 --> 00:51:06,319
This is great, man.
801
00:51:06,321 --> 00:51:08,589
When's your psychology
degree coming through?
802
00:51:09,757 --> 00:51:11,924
I don't know what the
hell's going on there.
803
00:51:11,926 --> 00:51:13,694
As far as I'm
concerned, it's just,
804
00:51:14,828 --> 00:51:16,362
those two got a
history, obviously,
805
00:51:16,364 --> 00:51:18,663
I have a feeling they're
just working together
806
00:51:18,665 --> 00:51:19,632
and pissing us about.
807
00:51:19,634 --> 00:51:21,099
But you just
saw what was going on,
808
00:51:21,101 --> 00:51:23,134
how can you say that?
809
00:51:23,136 --> 00:51:25,471
You saw it with your own
eyes, we got it on camera.
810
00:51:25,473 --> 00:51:26,771
Yeah, but what did we see?
811
00:51:26,773 --> 00:51:29,007
I see the bird
going off somewhere.
812
00:51:29,009 --> 00:51:31,110
So, I think it's hiding
813
00:51:31,112 --> 00:51:34,947
under bits of wood
that have fallen
814
00:51:34,949 --> 00:51:36,882
or there's a couple
of little holes they
815
00:51:36,884 --> 00:51:38,050
could have got out of,
816
00:51:38,052 --> 00:51:40,585
getting themselves
scraped on broken glass,
817
00:51:40,587 --> 00:51:41,719
so well done.
818
00:51:41,721 --> 00:51:42,887
Yeah, this isn't
good, let's just go.
819
00:51:42,889 --> 00:51:44,922
Trev, let's go and find her.
820
00:51:44,924 --> 00:51:47,494
Listen, they'll be alright,
they're here somewhere.
821
00:51:48,996 --> 00:51:51,764
I've got to go, my blood
sugar's.
822
00:51:51,766 --> 00:51:54,699
What,
blood sugar, yeah.
823
00:51:54,701 --> 00:51:56,768
Really, do you want
an actual medical
824
00:51:56,770 --> 00:51:58,404
emergency happening
here as well?
825
00:51:58,406 --> 00:51:59,637
Medical emergency, right.
826
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:01,473
Yeah, you're scared now
you're going for it,
827
00:52:01,475 --> 00:52:03,041
why don't you pick
up your girlfriend
828
00:52:03,043 --> 00:52:04,846
and we'll all go
back together, huh?
829
00:52:06,013 --> 00:52:06,978
Just stay here,
830
00:52:06,980 --> 00:52:08,614
I want to check that she
isn't covered in blood
831
00:52:08,616 --> 00:52:10,681
running down the main street.
832
00:52:10,683 --> 00:52:12,683
Plus I also have
to get some sweets.
833
00:52:12,685 --> 00:52:14,152
I lost Payton,
I can't find her.
834
00:52:14,154 --> 00:52:16,188
She went off.
835
00:52:16,190 --> 00:52:17,121
How big is this place?
836
00:52:17,123 --> 00:52:19,157
Wait, Trev, don't go.
837
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:21,893
Trev, come
on, for God's sake.
838
00:52:21,895 --> 00:52:23,494
I'm not chasing
another person, this is creepy.
839
00:52:23,496 --> 00:52:24,264
This is horrible.
840
00:52:25,433 --> 00:52:26,598
You come
with me, we'll go
841
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,666
and have a look
for her, alright?
842
00:52:27,668 --> 00:52:28,601
Yeah, yeah, cool.
843
00:52:28,603 --> 00:52:29,601
Gary, you
don't need to be scared,
844
00:52:29,603 --> 00:52:30,835
just have a look around,
enjoy yourself, alright?
845
00:52:30,837 --> 00:52:32,103
Yeah.
846
00:52:32,105 --> 00:52:33,172
If nobody's hunting,
who's the mutt
847
00:52:33,174 --> 00:52:34,739
that killed Gary
Slaymaker, alright
848
00:52:34,741 --> 00:52:39,210
and it could be a
spurned lover or anyone
849
00:52:39,212 --> 00:52:41,982
who's met him, that's
fair to say, or Trev,
850
00:52:46,219 --> 00:52:49,487
him and Trev is an
interesting thing,
851
00:52:49,489 --> 00:52:51,757
something's going on there,
sometimes they get on,
852
00:52:51,759 --> 00:52:53,525
sometimes they don't,
there's definitely a history
853
00:52:53,527 --> 00:52:55,059
of something there, I don't
know if it's something to do
854
00:52:55,061 --> 00:52:56,561
with a woman, that woman,
the one specific woman,
855
00:52:56,563 --> 00:52:58,563
there's something
there, you know
856
00:52:58,565 --> 00:52:59,864
but I don't like Trev,
I've never liked Trev
857
00:52:59,866 --> 00:53:02,169
and not cause he's
diabetic, you know?
858
00:53:03,471 --> 00:53:05,503
Some of my best
friends are diabetic,
859
00:53:05,505 --> 00:53:06,639
not friends but you know,
860
00:53:06,641 --> 00:53:10,007
'cause you can't have a
milkshake with a diabetic friend
861
00:53:10,009 --> 00:53:11,610
and it just ruins the
night, anyway, the point is,
862
00:53:11,612 --> 00:53:15,480
Trev is, at first
he's all, ah, Trev,
863
00:53:15,482 --> 00:53:16,982
what a nice guy and
then sometimes you just
864
00:53:16,984 --> 00:53:20,552
see the darkness come down
over him and it's just like,
865
00:53:20,554 --> 00:53:22,721
that's where you'll be
like, you're talking to him,
866
00:53:22,723 --> 00:53:24,426
he's laughing and
then he'll just go,
867
00:53:25,259 --> 00:53:27,996
like a fugue state,
you know, creepy.
868
00:53:29,163 --> 00:53:31,599
I saw him kill a cat
once, so there's that.
869
00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:34,668
I've already told you
870
00:53:35,536 --> 00:53:37,201
that I don't know,
871
00:53:37,203 --> 00:53:40,072
just 'cause there's no evidence
of anything supernatural,
872
00:53:40,074 --> 00:53:43,275
like which there
never will be, right,
873
00:53:43,277 --> 00:53:46,078
you think, well, I have to know,
874
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,246
like I have something
to do with it,
875
00:53:47,248 --> 00:53:48,880
is that what you're
saying, ask me that,
876
00:53:48,882 --> 00:53:50,616
you really think?
877
00:53:50,618 --> 00:53:52,554
They've got all
the footage, right?
878
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,954
Do you see me doing
anything at all?
879
00:53:55,956 --> 00:53:57,956
The police have checked it all.
880
00:53:57,958 --> 00:53:59,257
Yeah, no, I
think the batteries are
881
00:53:59,259 --> 00:54:00,525
going in my light as well.
882
00:54:00,527 --> 00:54:01,826
Oh, what?
883
00:54:01,828 --> 00:54:04,996
Just keep it going
for two minutes.
884
00:54:12,172 --> 00:54:13,641
Payton, Payton?
885
00:54:17,110 --> 00:54:18,545
She's not a door.
886
00:54:22,081 --> 00:54:23,047
There's something there.
887
00:54:23,049 --> 00:54:23,884
Shh.
888
00:54:30,657 --> 00:54:31,657
It's what?
889
00:54:31,659 --> 00:54:33,558
I think it's a
bird, it might be a rat.
890
00:54:34,627 --> 00:54:35,326
What is this?
891
00:54:35,328 --> 00:54:36,163
Get out!
892
00:54:37,297 --> 00:54:38,596
Huh?
893
00:54:38,598 --> 00:54:39,331
Get out of here.
894
00:55:07,328 --> 00:55:09,261
Guys?
895
00:55:09,263 --> 00:55:10,098
Guys?
896
00:55:20,741 --> 00:55:21,609
Oh, god, Gary.
897
00:55:28,715 --> 00:55:29,614
Oh, crap.
898
00:55:29,616 --> 00:55:30,651
Guys?
899
00:55:32,185 --> 00:55:33,918
Guys, where are you?
900
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,223
Anybody out there?
901
00:55:36,255 --> 00:55:37,759
Anybody out there?
902
00:55:44,163 --> 00:55:45,764
Gary?
903
00:55:45,766 --> 00:55:47,235
You dropped your camera.
904
00:55:48,668 --> 00:55:52,170
It's not like Gary
to vanish suddenly.
905
00:55:52,172 --> 00:55:57,177
He vanishes slowly, he just
sort of creeps away, you know,
906
00:55:58,045 --> 00:56:00,411
it takes awhile, you see him.
907
00:56:00,413 --> 00:56:03,016
He's never vanished before.
908
00:56:04,384 --> 00:56:06,751
That's not true, he
hasn't vanished recently,
909
00:56:06,753 --> 00:56:11,422
this is his most recent
vanishing and creepiest.
910
00:56:11,424 --> 00:56:12,824
Not even creepiest,
911
00:56:12,826 --> 00:56:14,393
you know what?
912
00:56:14,395 --> 00:56:15,527
He's always doing this.
913
00:56:15,529 --> 00:56:18,663
I talked to him, I actually
talked to him on the phone,
914
00:56:18,665 --> 00:56:21,766
I got ahold of him and
he was just garbling,
915
00:56:21,768 --> 00:56:23,835
incoherently, I'm going
back to the church,
916
00:56:23,837 --> 00:56:25,270
I'm going back to the
church and looking back,
917
00:56:25,272 --> 00:56:27,438
maybe I should have
stopped him but I thought,
918
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,174
you know, if anyone I
know needs to go to church
919
00:56:29,176 --> 00:56:32,811
once in his life,
it's Gary, you know.
920
00:56:32,813 --> 00:56:34,679
I wasn't thinking at
four in the morning,
921
00:56:34,681 --> 00:56:36,380
I was thinking like a Sunday
morning, there's a priest there
922
00:56:36,382 --> 00:56:38,919
but you know, at least he's
getting some God in him
923
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:42,887
or whatever he's, you
know, whatever's actually
924
00:56:42,889 --> 00:56:43,725
happened to him.
925
00:56:47,828 --> 00:56:48,795
Hello?
926
00:56:50,130 --> 00:56:50,932
Guys?
927
00:56:52,331 --> 00:56:53,134
Guys?
928
00:56:54,735 --> 00:56:55,970
Dave, David?
929
00:56:57,471 --> 00:56:58,706
Rhod?
930
00:57:00,007 --> 00:57:00,808
This isn't funny.
931
00:57:03,143 --> 00:57:05,246
This isn't funny, come on, guys.
932
00:57:06,714 --> 00:57:07,748
Payton?
933
00:57:10,918 --> 00:57:11,753
Trev?
934
00:57:14,487 --> 00:57:15,322
Come on.
935
00:57:18,458 --> 00:57:20,025
Guys, this isn't funny anymore.
936
00:57:20,027 --> 00:57:20,862
Come on.
937
00:57:22,061 --> 00:57:22,897
Please?
938
00:57:28,802 --> 00:57:29,804
Come on.
939
00:57:34,741 --> 00:57:35,375
Guys?
940
00:57:39,846 --> 00:57:42,246
I mean, why would
you go in there?
941
00:57:42,248 --> 00:57:43,150
Look at it.
942
00:57:46,853 --> 00:57:48,786
I mean, I can't see
what a lot of it is,
943
00:57:48,788 --> 00:57:51,024
I mean, it doesn't look good.
944
00:57:52,826 --> 00:57:54,362
I mean, nothing about
this screams common sense.
945
00:57:56,797 --> 00:57:58,996
Of course we heard
the languages that
946
00:57:58,998 --> 00:58:00,866
were not English but
we're hearing the voices
947
00:58:00,868 --> 00:58:02,534
in English as well.
948
00:58:02,536 --> 00:58:04,869
The voices don't seem
to match with any
949
00:58:04,871 --> 00:58:07,505
of the filmmakers who
are there in the church
950
00:58:07,507 --> 00:58:08,974
at this time.
951
00:58:08,976 --> 00:58:10,775
That could be attributable
to a couple of things,
952
00:58:10,777 --> 00:58:12,444
some of them quite simple.
953
00:58:12,446 --> 00:58:15,413
Maybe their voices trailing
in from outside the church,
954
00:58:15,415 --> 00:58:17,782
conversations of
people passing by,
955
00:58:17,784 --> 00:58:21,520
perhaps it could be
individuals just basically
956
00:58:21,522 --> 00:58:24,790
having a laugh with
the filmmakers,
957
00:58:24,792 --> 00:58:25,956
having some fun with them.
958
00:58:25,958 --> 00:58:27,992
If you wanna think supernatural,
959
00:58:27,994 --> 00:58:29,527
it would probably fall
under the category
960
00:58:29,529 --> 00:58:31,962
of what we consider
an intelligent haunt.
961
00:58:31,964 --> 00:58:33,297
There are two
types of hauntings,
962
00:58:33,299 --> 00:58:36,168
if you want to think
ghosts or otherwise.
963
00:58:36,170 --> 00:58:39,204
Residual haunting is
where something replays
964
00:58:39,206 --> 00:58:41,940
over and over again, sort
of like a tape recorder.
965
00:58:41,942 --> 00:58:46,378
An intelligent haunt
offers responses back,
966
00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:47,945
so we want to think ghost,
967
00:58:47,947 --> 00:58:50,514
it could be that or
968
00:58:50,516 --> 00:58:53,117
it could be something
else entirely.
969
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:56,420
I have been very
involved in the search and
970
00:58:56,422 --> 00:58:59,257
you know when people go missing,
971
00:58:59,259 --> 00:59:01,326
that thing where they walk
across the countryside
972
00:59:01,328 --> 00:59:03,460
with sticks, trying to
find a body or something?
973
00:59:03,462 --> 00:59:06,598
Yeah, I emailed the
police and said, try that.
974
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,233
So, I'm not mucking around,
I'm taking this very seriously.
975
00:59:09,235 --> 00:59:10,902
I'm sending suggestions,
976
00:59:10,904 --> 00:59:13,237
not send, I'm tweeting
them, tweeting the police,
977
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:16,074
just, have you tried
poking bushes with sticks,
978
00:59:16,076 --> 00:59:17,878
see if Gary's in there and
979
00:59:19,212 --> 00:59:21,248
other things, just standard
things like saying,
980
00:59:22,181 --> 00:59:23,784
watch this episode of Quincy,
981
00:59:25,886 --> 00:59:26,617
some people are missing there,
982
00:59:26,619 --> 00:59:27,953
that might be a help to you.
983
00:59:27,955 --> 00:59:29,487
So, I'm very involved
and I'm taking
984
00:59:29,489 --> 00:59:31,121
this very seriously.
985
00:59:31,123 --> 00:59:32,793
I'm watching a lot of Quincy.
986
00:59:49,509 --> 00:59:50,911
Who's there?
987
00:59:52,913 --> 00:59:54,382
You called me,
Rhod, is that you?
988
00:59:58,918 --> 00:59:59,520
What the?
989
01:00:04,625 --> 01:00:05,924
Rhod?
990
01:00:05,926 --> 01:00:07,291
Did you move this?
991
01:00:07,293 --> 01:00:08,626
Jamie.
992
01:00:08,628 --> 01:00:10,531
Who's
that, who's there?
993
01:00:11,998 --> 01:00:12,899
Who's there?
994
01:00:14,433 --> 01:00:17,201
Who called my name, I'm leaving.
995
01:00:17,203 --> 01:00:18,038
Screw you guys.
996
01:00:49,302 --> 01:00:51,906
Oh, oh, that's gotta hurt.
997
01:00:53,139 --> 01:00:56,076
She, one of the filmmakers
appears to have fallen
998
01:00:57,677 --> 01:01:00,612
from what looks like the
basement into another structure
999
01:01:00,614 --> 01:01:05,317
underneath the basement,
some sort of catacomb maybe
1000
01:01:05,319 --> 01:01:07,455
or subterranean chamber.
1001
01:01:08,654 --> 01:01:11,221
Interesting brickwork,
interesting structure,
1002
01:01:11,223 --> 01:01:12,092
it's well built.
1003
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,059
These types of facilities,
these types of structures
1004
01:01:15,061 --> 01:01:17,429
were built for
specific purposes.
1005
01:01:17,431 --> 01:01:20,197
They may have been
built to protect
1006
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:23,069
population groups
from harassment,
1007
01:01:24,103 --> 01:01:27,440
anything from religious
persecution to
1008
01:01:28,275 --> 01:01:30,978
even protecting wealth.
1009
01:01:32,378 --> 01:01:34,079
Sometimes they were
used for storage,
1010
01:01:34,081 --> 01:01:36,081
sometimes we don't
even remember what
1011
01:01:36,083 --> 01:01:37,983
the purposes were for.
1012
01:01:37,985 --> 01:01:40,250
If this type of structure
has been abandoned
1013
01:01:40,252 --> 01:01:44,124
and forgotten for
a long, long time,
1014
01:01:45,458 --> 01:01:47,560
there may be no way out.
1015
01:02:02,241 --> 01:02:03,510
Help!
1016
01:02:05,078 --> 01:02:06,246
I'm down here.
1017
01:02:08,647 --> 01:02:13,653
Ow, is anybody there?
1018
01:02:14,186 --> 01:02:15,022
Gary?
1019
01:02:17,123 --> 01:02:17,958
Trev?
1020
01:02:20,761 --> 01:02:21,594
Payton?
1021
01:02:23,697 --> 01:02:24,532
David?
1022
01:02:31,103 --> 01:02:32,239
Oh, I'm in pain.
1023
01:02:34,074 --> 01:02:34,709
Help!
1024
01:02:35,708 --> 01:02:36,543
Trev!
1025
01:02:43,250 --> 01:02:44,549
Anything else we can watch?
1026
01:02:44,551 --> 01:02:46,083
A lot of people bring this up,
1027
01:02:46,085 --> 01:02:47,351
there were the
faces in the fire,
1028
01:02:47,353 --> 01:02:50,121
in the smoke that
proved that something
1029
01:02:50,123 --> 01:02:50,822
creepy going on there.
1030
01:02:50,824 --> 01:02:53,058
Here's my theory on that, right.
1031
01:02:53,060 --> 01:02:54,826
If you're on fire,
1032
01:02:54,828 --> 01:02:58,195
as a person, right and
the fire's coming up
1033
01:02:58,197 --> 01:03:00,000
and your face gets burned off,
1034
01:03:01,467 --> 01:03:05,070
it's actually gonna float
up, innit, 'cause of heat,
1035
01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:07,605
and then that was probably
just melting faces.
1036
01:03:07,607 --> 01:03:09,706
Nothing creepy about that.
1037
01:03:09,708 --> 01:03:11,308
Again, I say that out
loud and that just sounds
1038
01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:12,744
more horrific than it is
1039
01:03:12,746 --> 01:03:16,384
but it's better than
saying, oh, devil worship.
1040
01:03:17,516 --> 01:03:18,616
People, lots of
people have said to me
1041
01:03:18,618 --> 01:03:21,453
they saw different things
in the flames that night but
1042
01:03:21,455 --> 01:03:23,420
I think you can see lots
of things if you look
1043
01:03:23,422 --> 01:03:25,322
at clouds in the sky,
you see different shapes
1044
01:03:25,324 --> 01:03:27,458
and different faces and so on.
1045
01:03:27,460 --> 01:03:29,360
I've feared people,
I know people have
1046
01:03:29,362 --> 01:03:32,130
got still photographs
and it appears to show
1047
01:03:32,132 --> 01:03:33,630
like the face of the
devil in the flames
1048
01:03:33,632 --> 01:03:35,366
and all that, I
think it's a bit like
1049
01:03:35,368 --> 01:03:37,869
the theme music
from Roald Dahl's
1050
01:03:37,871 --> 01:03:40,170
Tales of the Unexpected
where he would flicker
1051
01:03:40,172 --> 01:03:42,540
in flames and people
would see ghostly figures
1052
01:03:42,542 --> 01:03:44,675
dancing about in there,
the people would see
1053
01:03:44,677 --> 01:03:46,478
lots of different things.
1054
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,746
I certainly hope that
it's nothing to do with
1055
01:03:48,748 --> 01:03:50,348
the filmmakers, I hope
they weren't trapped
1056
01:03:50,350 --> 01:03:51,782
inside the building.
1057
01:03:51,784 --> 01:03:53,384
I don't know why the
church was burnt down.
1058
01:03:53,386 --> 01:03:55,887
I mean, we've had stories
in the past of people
1059
01:03:55,889 --> 01:03:59,824
practicing some
weird kind of magic.
1060
01:03:59,826 --> 01:04:02,192
I mean, I'm not a
believer of that but
1061
01:04:02,194 --> 01:04:04,362
you've got to think sometimes
1062
01:04:04,364 --> 01:04:06,766
why were they in there,
that church, doing that?
1063
01:04:07,833 --> 01:04:08,766
It is a bit weird.
1064
01:04:08,768 --> 01:04:11,636
So the faces in the
flame, yes, I did see
1065
01:04:11,638 --> 01:04:14,172
the picture but it can be
explained by pareidolia,
1066
01:04:14,174 --> 01:04:17,175
which is sort of the
scientific explanation
1067
01:04:17,177 --> 01:04:20,244
for why people see faces
in everyday objects.
1068
01:04:20,246 --> 01:04:24,181
I mean, admittedly, they did
look quite a lot like faces
1069
01:04:24,183 --> 01:04:26,416
but it can be explained.
1070
01:04:26,418 --> 01:04:29,853
Obviously quite quickly after
1071
01:04:29,855 --> 01:04:32,623
all the coverage went
out about the fire,
1072
01:04:32,625 --> 01:04:34,826
there were some pictures
came out that appeared
1073
01:04:34,828 --> 01:04:37,529
to show faces in
the flames, which,
1074
01:04:37,531 --> 01:04:40,197
especially on our social
media feed on Facebook,
1075
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:43,369
a lot of interest, people
speculating on it and
1076
01:04:44,603 --> 01:04:46,270
no one knew quite
what they were,
1077
01:04:46,272 --> 01:04:48,473
people were saying they
were ghosts from the church,
1078
01:04:48,475 --> 01:04:52,242
from 100 years ago or
so but it was a bit
1079
01:04:52,244 --> 01:04:53,244
of a mystery really.
1080
01:04:53,246 --> 01:04:55,579
People have put forward
different explanations,
1081
01:04:55,581 --> 01:04:57,849
but who knows?
1082
01:04:57,851 --> 01:05:00,521
I think there's something
supernatural involved.
1083
01:05:01,888 --> 01:05:04,922
I think, because Llanelli
is quite a hot spot
1084
01:05:04,924 --> 01:05:06,724
for UFOs and things,
1085
01:05:06,726 --> 01:05:08,226
so I think it's
actually satellite,
1086
01:05:08,228 --> 01:05:10,728
I think there's like an
intergalactic kind of
1087
01:05:10,730 --> 01:05:13,463
mish-mash going
on, bit of a battle
1088
01:05:13,465 --> 01:05:16,636
and maybe one of them kind
of exploded over the church.
1089
01:05:17,571 --> 01:05:19,503
How did it start?
1090
01:05:19,505 --> 01:05:22,473
I don't know,
1091
01:05:22,475 --> 01:05:27,480
something frightened me
that night in the church.
1092
01:05:28,248 --> 01:05:29,282
Yet,
1093
01:05:32,886 --> 01:05:34,188
I don't know,
1094
01:05:35,889 --> 01:05:38,322
I haven't thought much about it.
1095
01:05:38,324 --> 01:05:43,330
It's not something I like
to think about very much.
1096
01:05:46,933 --> 01:05:50,668
The police questioned me simply,
1097
01:05:50,670 --> 01:05:55,676
I believe the police questioned
me as I was at the scene,
1098
01:05:57,243 --> 01:05:58,742
when I went down
to see the fire,
1099
01:05:58,744 --> 01:06:01,214
the police were asking
if anyone knew anything.
1100
01:06:02,348 --> 01:06:04,384
I don't think I'm a suspect,
1101
01:06:07,020 --> 01:06:10,424
however, it might
be, it might be true.
1102
01:06:23,603 --> 01:06:25,272
Oh my god.
1103
01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:57,467
Rhodri!
1104
01:06:57,469 --> 01:06:58,869
Geez,
what are you doing?
1105
01:06:58,871 --> 01:07:01,306
I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
we need to leave.
1106
01:07:01,308 --> 01:07:03,041
Yes, get up there.
1107
01:07:03,043 --> 01:07:04,509
What did you see up there?
1108
01:07:04,511 --> 01:07:07,378
Where's Payton, where
is she, where's Gary?
1109
01:07:07,380 --> 01:07:08,579
Guys, come on!
1110
01:07:08,581 --> 01:07:10,348
Trevor, we gotta go.
1111
01:07:11,650 --> 01:07:13,050
Trevor?
1112
01:07:13,052 --> 01:07:14,288
Payton?
1113
01:07:15,054 --> 01:07:16,290
Gary?
1114
01:07:18,090 --> 01:07:19,359
This isn't funny anymore.
1115
01:07:20,092 --> 01:07:21,295
Come on.
1116
01:07:27,967 --> 01:07:29,936
Dave, this is not
funny, come on.
1117
01:07:31,603 --> 01:07:32,438
Dave?
1118
01:07:34,507 --> 01:07:37,945
Dave, this is not
funny anymore, come on!
1119
01:07:41,081 --> 01:07:42,316
Dave?
1120
01:07:43,516 --> 01:07:44,818
Don't be an idiot.
1121
01:07:46,118 --> 01:07:47,920
Dave, Dave, Dave,
come on, come on!
1122
01:07:56,096 --> 01:07:57,728
Dave?
1123
01:08:10,777 --> 01:08:15,012
This particular piece of
footage is extremely corrupted.
1124
01:08:15,014 --> 01:08:17,484
It's been damaged by
heat, by the fire,
1125
01:08:19,151 --> 01:08:22,854
it's impacted the digital data
1126
01:08:22,856 --> 01:08:26,690
but there is enough there
to be able to see something,
1127
01:08:26,692 --> 01:08:28,462
something unusual.
1128
01:08:29,928 --> 01:08:32,732
People might attribute it
to being a shadow person.
1129
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:37,804
Shadow people are thought
of in several ways.
1130
01:08:39,405 --> 01:08:44,010
They're either conjured up
through occult practices
1131
01:08:45,178 --> 01:08:48,549
or they could even be inhumane,
1132
01:08:50,917 --> 01:08:53,786
going back to the concepts
of the animistic religions,
1133
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,025
something not human ever.
1134
01:09:00,759 --> 01:09:03,894
There are a lot of shadow
people who are caught on film
1135
01:09:03,896 --> 01:09:08,668
around the world, this
is very impressive
1136
01:09:10,703 --> 01:09:13,906
and very disturbing and
1137
01:09:17,811 --> 01:09:19,545
it seems very real.
1138
01:09:22,581 --> 01:09:27,484
I think the rest of the
group was inside at the time
1139
01:09:27,486 --> 01:09:30,954
of the fire, they were
still in the church,
1140
01:09:30,956 --> 01:09:32,825
they'd gone in by that point.
1141
01:09:34,893 --> 01:09:37,463
I don't know what
started the fire
1142
01:09:38,231 --> 01:09:39,896
and whether they got out,
1143
01:09:39,898 --> 01:09:42,166
however if they were
trapped inside the church,
1144
01:09:42,168 --> 01:09:47,174
it's unlikely that they
would have got out,
1145
01:09:48,575 --> 01:09:52,946
which would mean that
they are no longer alive.
1146
01:09:55,248 --> 01:09:57,551
I will continue
1147
01:09:58,918 --> 01:10:03,723
to make my films, taking onboard
Gary's critique this time.
1148
01:10:06,258 --> 01:10:07,627
I will,
1149
01:10:08,761 --> 01:10:11,528
I will carry on as
normal and I will try
1150
01:10:11,530 --> 01:10:14,935
and not let this affect
my life too much.
1151
01:10:17,704 --> 01:10:19,237
I don't think that
they're dead, no.
1152
01:10:19,239 --> 01:10:22,672
I mean, there is not bodies
found or anything, right?
1153
01:10:22,674 --> 01:10:25,643
I just think they're
hiding, they're scared.
1154
01:10:25,645 --> 01:10:27,711
I'd like to think, I
mean, if the filmmakers
1155
01:10:27,713 --> 01:10:29,247
are worth their salt,
they're probably out there
1156
01:10:29,249 --> 01:10:32,716
in the community, digging
around, investigating
1157
01:10:32,718 --> 01:10:34,252
and trying to get at the
truth of all this, really,
1158
01:10:34,254 --> 01:10:37,255
I mean, people want to
find out what did happen
1159
01:10:37,257 --> 01:10:39,957
on that night, what
caused the fire,
1160
01:10:39,959 --> 01:10:41,559
how did it come about.
1161
01:10:41,561 --> 01:10:42,926
I mean, it's a
tragedy for Llanneli,
1162
01:10:42,928 --> 01:10:45,662
tragedy for the
church and who knows,
1163
01:10:45,664 --> 01:10:48,064
some of them might be
having a little lock-in,
1164
01:10:48,066 --> 01:10:50,701
having a few drinks
in the local pub but
1165
01:10:50,703 --> 01:10:53,003
some of them may be
busy working and trying
1166
01:10:53,005 --> 01:10:56,607
to find out the truth here
and I hope it's the latter,
1167
01:10:56,609 --> 01:10:59,277
I hope they're busy trying
to find out the truth.
1168
01:10:59,279 --> 01:11:03,648
Unless you've got interviews
with six empty chairs,
1169
01:11:03,650 --> 01:11:07,150
schedule after me, I'm the
guy here talking about it
1170
01:11:07,152 --> 01:11:10,022
but I'm, I'm pretty sure
they're probably just
1171
01:11:11,657 --> 01:11:14,926
hiding out somewhere, got
some cabin in West Wales
1172
01:11:14,928 --> 01:11:18,028
where they're all drinking
champagne and plotting
1173
01:11:18,030 --> 01:11:21,734
their next promotional
move or something.
1174
01:11:24,603 --> 01:11:27,607
Why would I have any
idea where they are?
1175
01:11:30,343 --> 01:11:33,644
If you want me to guess,
they're probably hiding,
1176
01:11:33,646 --> 01:11:35,549
I don't know,
working on something,
1177
01:11:36,816 --> 01:11:38,649
old publicity is
great publicity,
1178
01:11:38,651 --> 01:11:40,554
that's what I think, why?
1179
01:11:43,121 --> 01:11:43,956
What do you mean?
1180
01:11:48,794 --> 01:11:50,663
No, screw this.
1181
01:12:11,651 --> 01:12:12,553
Gary, Trev?
1182
01:12:16,155 --> 01:12:17,787
Payton?
1183
01:12:17,789 --> 01:12:19,657
I don't know where I am.
1184
01:12:19,659 --> 01:12:22,225
I just fell and I
can't find anybody,
1185
01:12:22,227 --> 01:12:26,162
I don't know if this
is a sick joke but
1186
01:12:26,164 --> 01:12:29,899
I don't know where anybody is
1187
01:12:29,901 --> 01:12:32,239
and the worst thing is,
1188
01:12:33,705 --> 01:12:36,776
in these films, the blonde
always dies first, always.
1189
01:12:38,878 --> 01:12:41,412
I can't find anybody, I
don't know if they're joking,
1190
01:12:41,414 --> 01:12:43,680
I don't know what's happened.
1191
01:12:43,682 --> 01:12:46,953
I have to get out of here,
I think I broke my leg.
1192
01:12:47,919 --> 01:12:49,789
I just want to go home,
why did we even come here,
1193
01:12:51,391 --> 01:12:54,361
this is not a good idea,
it was not a good idea.
1194
01:12:55,428 --> 01:12:57,662
I don't know what to do.
1195
01:12:57,664 --> 01:12:58,264
I can't.
1196
01:13:00,700 --> 01:13:01,399
Did I hear something?
1197
01:13:01,401 --> 01:13:03,434
There's something here.
1198
01:13:08,007 --> 01:13:11,011
Hold for sound.
1199
01:13:15,313 --> 01:13:16,747
Okay.
1200
01:13:16,749 --> 01:13:18,916
Before we go on, did
you guys feel that,
1201
01:13:18,918 --> 01:13:22,853
I mean, it felt
like the room shook.
1202
01:13:22,855 --> 01:13:25,689
I was just talking to
the sound man and he said
1203
01:13:25,691 --> 01:13:29,326
he felt it too, the
building shook and he said
1204
01:13:29,328 --> 01:13:32,328
that the audio levels
changed at that point,
1205
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:36,434
something about the
room tone went up,
1206
01:13:36,436 --> 01:13:38,469
I don't understand
everything about that,
1207
01:13:38,471 --> 01:13:40,837
that's not my field
of expertise but
1208
01:13:40,839 --> 01:13:44,410
something weird happened
and the lights flickered,
1209
01:13:46,812 --> 01:13:49,749
spooky.
1210
01:13:51,484 --> 01:13:53,285
I can give you some ideas,
1211
01:13:54,853 --> 01:13:57,758
I don't know if there's
really any explanations.
1212
01:13:59,491 --> 01:14:03,461
We know there are occult
influences in the area,
1213
01:14:03,463 --> 01:14:07,868
we know there is the
presence of Wiccan activity,
1214
01:14:09,334 --> 01:14:13,237
we also know the history
of the interaction between
1215
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:16,176
the church and the
Wiccan community.
1216
01:14:17,509 --> 01:14:20,911
That may be something
that plays into it,
1217
01:14:20,913 --> 01:14:22,747
I would really love
to have an opportunity
1218
01:14:22,749 --> 01:14:25,919
to speak with some of the
young people who were there
1219
01:14:28,154 --> 01:14:31,357
but we can't find most of them.
1220
01:14:32,525 --> 01:14:35,027
The church burning is
a big issue too because
1221
01:14:37,829 --> 01:14:42,735
it's as if the evidence
that we need was purged
1222
01:14:43,969 --> 01:14:47,874
in the flames and it makes
it difficult to really know
1223
01:14:48,540 --> 01:14:50,744
what truly happened.
1224
01:14:51,811 --> 01:14:53,246
That's why we're guessing.
1225
01:14:54,513 --> 01:14:58,015
We just don't have all the
answers and I wish we did
1226
01:14:58,017 --> 01:15:01,885
because there's a
lot of things I just,
1227
01:15:01,887 --> 01:15:02,888
I can't explain.
1228
01:15:04,257 --> 01:15:07,358
Well, I read only yesterday,
there's tweets flying
1229
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,426
about megastructures in the sky,
1230
01:15:09,428 --> 01:15:12,997
which was people living
in the clouds, really and
1231
01:15:12,999 --> 01:15:15,899
skyscrapers on the
cloud, with people living
1232
01:15:15,901 --> 01:15:18,836
in the skyscrapers on
the cloud and apparently
1233
01:15:18,838 --> 01:15:20,470
there's not enough people
living on the cloud,
1234
01:15:20,472 --> 01:15:24,241
so they're coming down to grab
the people from the planet
1235
01:15:24,243 --> 01:15:27,010
to take them into the
megastructures on the cloud.
1236
01:15:27,012 --> 01:15:30,180
Never really seen
witches or ghosts
1237
01:15:30,182 --> 01:15:31,448
or anything like that.
1238
01:15:31,450 --> 01:15:34,185
The creepiest thing
is, that I know of,
1239
01:15:34,187 --> 01:15:35,856
around here is
1240
01:15:37,423 --> 01:15:39,793
my mother looks exactly
like Danny DeVito.
1241
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,395
I mean exactly like him
1242
01:15:43,228 --> 01:15:44,894
and it's creepy.
1243
01:15:44,896 --> 01:15:48,332
It's like they shouldn't look
that similar but they do,
1244
01:15:48,334 --> 01:15:50,266
people stop and
ask for autographs.
1245
01:15:50,268 --> 01:15:52,036
They go, I loved you in Twins.
1246
01:15:52,038 --> 01:15:54,470
It's just creepy how
similar they look,
1247
01:15:54,472 --> 01:15:55,841
so that's supernatural-ish.
1248
01:15:59,879 --> 01:16:01,982
I gotta get out of here.
1249
01:16:14,293 --> 01:16:15,893
What's that sound?
1250
01:16:15,895 --> 01:16:17,327
What's that sound?
1251
01:16:17,329 --> 01:16:18,964
I hear something.
1252
01:16:20,232 --> 01:16:22,936
It's not human, what was that?
1253
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:28,308
It's so gross and creepy.
1254
01:17:03,676 --> 01:17:04,942
I guess you never know really,
1255
01:17:04,944 --> 01:17:06,478
with this sort of thing, really,
1256
01:17:07,545 --> 01:17:09,145
'cause it's, obviously it
drew a lot of media attention
1257
01:17:09,147 --> 01:17:11,918
to the town when so many
of them went missing but
1258
01:17:15,553 --> 01:17:17,688
yeah, I guess we'll wait
and see what happens.
1259
01:17:17,690 --> 01:17:20,157
They may well turn up somewhere
1260
01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:23,661
as part of some elaborate
publicity stunt but who knows?
1261
01:17:23,663 --> 01:17:25,930
There are already
people talking about well,
1262
01:17:25,932 --> 01:17:27,965
the burning of witches
and trying to link it
1263
01:17:27,967 --> 01:17:29,699
to the Wiccan activity.
1264
01:17:29,701 --> 01:17:31,502
Did they burn witches, yes.
1265
01:17:31,504 --> 01:17:33,874
They drowned witches,
they hung witches,
1266
01:17:35,508 --> 01:17:38,978
is the fire obviously
occultic simply because
1267
01:17:40,111 --> 01:17:41,577
of the burning of witches,
1268
01:17:41,579 --> 01:17:45,082
I don't go that far, I don't
know, I don't think so.
1269
01:17:45,084 --> 01:17:49,153
That's like the discussion
about the faces in the flames.
1270
01:17:49,155 --> 01:17:51,055
You can see faces in clouds,
1271
01:17:51,057 --> 01:17:54,190
you can see faces on a sunny
day if you're looking for them,
1272
01:17:54,192 --> 01:17:55,928
you see what you wanna see.
1273
01:17:57,362 --> 01:17:59,195
I've been crawling
around here for what seems
1274
01:17:59,197 --> 01:18:00,100
like hours.
1275
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:07,007
My legs hurt, they're numb, I
feel like everything's broken.
1276
01:18:10,476 --> 01:18:11,311
I'm tired.
1277
01:18:12,712 --> 01:18:15,144
I feel like it's almost over.
1278
01:18:15,146 --> 01:18:17,049
I don't know how
much longer I can go.
1279
01:18:19,618 --> 01:18:21,251
I don't know if this
is the same chamber,
1280
01:18:21,253 --> 01:18:24,721
it all looks the same,
everything looks the same.
1281
01:18:44,043 --> 01:18:45,078
Oh, shit!
1282
01:18:52,351 --> 01:18:54,020
I've seen something.
1283
01:18:56,355 --> 01:18:58,090
I can hear something.
1284
01:19:00,058 --> 01:19:01,962
I can hear something.
1285
01:19:11,203 --> 01:19:13,106
I gotta get outta here.
1286
01:19:18,343 --> 01:19:20,109
It's a door.
1287
01:19:20,111 --> 01:19:21,181
There's a door.
1288
01:19:31,089 --> 01:19:32,324
Is someone there?
1289
01:19:36,395 --> 01:19:38,498
Who's there, who is that?
1290
01:19:40,665 --> 01:19:41,668
Who's there?
1291
01:20:03,621 --> 01:20:05,655
There's somebody with her,
1292
01:20:05,657 --> 01:20:08,324
she's reacting, Jamie is, right,
1293
01:20:08,326 --> 01:20:13,329
Jamie is reacting
to somebody there
1294
01:20:13,331 --> 01:20:15,468
and then she's just
gone, she's gone.
1295
01:20:19,105 --> 01:20:21,238
Oh and you see the
glow across the rocks,
1296
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,608
do you see how there's this
shimmering orange yellow light
1297
01:20:24,610 --> 01:20:27,577
cascading across
the rock structure,
1298
01:20:27,579 --> 01:20:32,184
that has to be the
beginnings of the fire.
1299
01:20:33,352 --> 01:20:36,089
I think about everything
that's happened in this church
1300
01:20:37,522 --> 01:20:40,224
and it reminds me of how
fire has been represented
1301
01:20:40,226 --> 01:20:43,129
down through the
years in religion.
1302
01:20:44,129 --> 01:20:48,165
There's a passage in the
beginning of Numbers,
1303
01:20:48,167 --> 01:20:50,134
Numbers 11.
1304
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,741
Yes, Numbers 11, right
at the beginning it says,
1305
01:20:57,743 --> 01:21:02,412
"And the people were as
murmurers, speaking evil
1306
01:21:02,414 --> 01:21:06,716
"in the ears of the Lord
and when the Lord heard it,
1307
01:21:06,718 --> 01:21:10,520
"his anger was kindled and
the fire of the Lord burnt
1308
01:21:10,522 --> 01:21:14,593
"among them and devoured in the
uttermost part of the camp."
1309
01:21:17,463 --> 01:21:22,469
I think Carmarthen
has a lot of mystery
1310
01:21:23,936 --> 01:21:28,775
yet to be revealed and Llanelli,
1311
01:21:31,509 --> 01:21:32,512
I'll be going back.
1312
01:21:51,636 --> 01:21:56,636
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