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until the current period our until alas
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through the years it was conventional
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wisdom both in science and theology
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we're alone in the universe the whole
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single repository of life anywhere in
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the known universe well no one believes
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that in 1961 astronomer and
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astrophysicist dr. Frank Drake devised
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the Drake Equation which calculates the
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number of worlds with intelligent life
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capable of technologically communicating
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with us according to Drake's own
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calculations there are 10,000
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communicative civilizations in the Milky
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Way galaxy for decades later the Drake
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Equation has been greatly expanded on by
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dr. Amir Excel best-selling author and
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associate professor of mathematics and
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statistics at Bentley College
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Massachusetts his latest book
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probability one deals with why there
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must be intelligent life in the universe
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my calculation of probability one goes
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far beyond what was explored with
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Drake's equation Drake's equation refers
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only to our galaxy my calculation goes
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to the visible universe as a whole which
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has billions of galaxies and each
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containing billions of stars
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so if you multiply all these numbers you
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get tremendous odds for the existence of
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life I think one of the main changes
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that has taken place in recent years in
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astronomers views of whether or not
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there might be other civilizations
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elsewhere in the universe has to do with
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the fact that we've discovered dozens of
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other planetary systems around other
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stars now in most cases the planets are
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giant planets like Jupiter not the kind
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that would Harbor life but where there
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are those kinds of planets are likely to
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be other planets too in those solar
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systems and so we're optimistic these
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days about life elsewhere
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what's the nature of the universe we
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live in what is our relationship to the
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larger reality I looked up and all of a
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sudden there was you know gotta say it
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Flying Saucer didn't even make a sound
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not even a silly-billy when it was this
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gone
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he said very but that's all wrong
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I don't know what disappeared there's
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nothing to hide there's nothing to hide
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it all
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that was a part of the United States Air
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Force cover-up for 18 years
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there's no way within the military
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within the government of keeping track
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of something that is classified even as
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with experience I had been on top of the
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government all the years I couldn't tell
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you it'll go see this should be the
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subject of rigorous scientific
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investigation and not the subject of
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rubbishing by tabloid newspapers I am
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here to discuss the so-called flying
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saucers air force interest in this
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problem has been due to our feeling of
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an obligation to identify and analyze to
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the best of our ability anything in the
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air that may have the possibility of
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threat or menace to the United States in
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pursuit of this obligation since 1947 we
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have received and analyzed between one
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and two thousand reports there have been
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a certain percentage of this volume of
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reports that have been made by credible
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observers of relatively incredible
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things it is this group of observations
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that we now are attempting to resolve
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for the last 50 years 95% of all UFO
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incidents have been explained in
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down-to-earth conventional terms these
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explanations include misidentified
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aircraft weather balloons atmospheric
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phenomenon light aberrations mass
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hallucinations hoaxes and swamp gas
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however these explanations cannot be
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applied to the remaining 5% the
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cumulative evidence in these cases leads
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towards a possible conclusion that some
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UFOs are not of Earth origin in this
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documentary we will present unexplained
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cases from around the world investigate
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50 years of official contradictions and
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denials and put forth possible reasons
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for secrecy we will examine scientific
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theories on interstellar travel and
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discuss the current movement for
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official disclosure on a subject that
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has primarily been considered unworthy
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of serious investigation
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the case of the Phoenix lights began on
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an evening in March of 1997
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late-breaking you're watching news 15 at
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10 dude these lights belong to visitors
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from outer space hundreds of people
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across the valley think it's a distinct
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possibility good evening I'm mark Vail
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and I'm Robin Sewell thanks for joining
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us we start tonight with those strange
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dots of light that were the talk of the
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town as reported multiple UFOs were
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sighted throughout the Phoenix basin
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numerous eyewitnesses were already
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outside looking up into the night sky to
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catch a glimpse of the hale-bopp comet
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Michael tanner is part of a team of
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investigators who received roughly 800
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reports from eyewitnesses regarding the
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Phoenix incident between 8:15 and 8:45
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we had enormous craft at varying
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altitudes come right through the center
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of the valley of Phoenix led by a
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formation of orbs that were clearly
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visible through most of the state it
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passed right in front of us just about
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right above eyes length my estimate of
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the size of the craft from the noses it
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passed us where we lived to the end of
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the left wing that passed in front of us
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was over 5,000 foot long it's coming
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across the sky
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and as this moving it's blocking and
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unblocking the Stars
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there was actually a shape it was
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actually five lights that were a v1 in
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front two and two on each side and it
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was perfect it was a perfect triangle
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the object we saw if we opened up a
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newspaper you could not block out the
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object that we saw people say Mike no
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you saw a b-2 bomber my response was we
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could land all 40 of our b-2 bombers on
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the wing of that crowd he says you're
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not gonna believe what I saw and I said
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yes I would I said that's all it's been
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on the news all night long is this this
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craft explanations have been tossed
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about that they were flares that there
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were planes flying in formation the
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market Robin we check with the FAA today
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we checked with Sky Harbor we checked
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Luke Air Force Base and there's been no
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official explanation of those strange
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bright flights last night
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truck driver bill Greiner was driving
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south on i-17 towards Luke Air Force
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Base he witnessed several fighter jets
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scrambled to intercept two UFOs directly
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overhead
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I pulled my truck
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alongside the West silos which faces
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Luke the Air Force's face was like right
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there and I was here unloading
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everything was completely quiet it was
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like really eerie there was one right
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over to base and then there was another
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one out toward Wickenburg and these
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things were just hovering they were huge
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orbs but it didn't it didn't make no
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sound or nothing it was just hovering
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right right there over the base
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all sudden I hear a lot of roaring
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coming out of a Luke Air Force Base in
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here there's two fighters coming on they
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had the afterburners on because every
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huge flames coming out the back of these
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things right around the back of me and
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shot right before those things then it
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disappeared on them and it was gone
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military says the lights over Arizona
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last night were flares but the people
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who saw the lights last night say they
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couldn't have been flares in central
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Phoenix in what is known as the sunny
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slope area the lay family were coming
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home in the early evening to watch for
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the hale-bopp coming when they witnessed
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a very large craft fly directly over
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their house light the tip was right out
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in the street and the arm is going by
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and the end of the arm was at least to
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that mountain over there it was six
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seven hundred feet away with these huge
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lights set inside of it and I look
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inside and it's like it's wavy when you
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when you look down the street on a hot
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day in Phoenix above the streets like
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it's really wavy and you see everything
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kind of distorted that's what it looks
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like up inside that little the craft and
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it just skimmed by didn't even make a
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sound not even a sound further
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eyewitness testimony came from Stacey
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Rhodes and her daughter Emily who both
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saw a giant craft fly over their car it
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was a gunmetal black it wasn't shiny it
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wasn't invisible it was more of a dull
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bluish black color and they both just
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stayed there and looked at it for a
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couple minutes and it was completely
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silent Mike Fortson spotted the same
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craft from his backyard in Chandler a
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suburb of Phoenix when you're looking to
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the north towards Phoenix proper the the
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lights of the City of Phoenix and Tempe
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and Scottsdale and all these here will
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form a gray background and this was a
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black object coming through a grey
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background we had no problem with
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whoever seen this vehicle we knew it
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wasn't really ours because it was just
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too doggone big a matter of fact
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profoundly massive is a better way to
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describe it we don't really have words
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in our language to describe something
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that large it was huge
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Councilwoman Frances Barwood was
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approached by a reporter who complained
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about the lack of response from local
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government regarding the sightings what
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this reporter said was that they had
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gone to every level of government
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including the City of Phoenix and nobody
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would talk to them that this object went
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from north of Prescott who called it all
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the way down to Tucson and then was also
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seen in Wickenburg and nobody would give
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them any answer they either told them
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that they were not going to talk about
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it at all or that there was nothing that
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nothing happened responding to mounting
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pressure from his constituents governor
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Fife Symington held a press conference
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oh I'm gonna order a full you know
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investigation of this through DPS we're
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gonna make all the necessary inquiries
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and we're gonna get to the bottom of our
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gonna find out if it was a UFO
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later that day governor Symington held
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an unscheduled live press conference to
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announce that they had discovered the
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source behind the Phoenix lights now
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I'll ask officer Stein and his
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colleagues to escort the accused into
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the room so that we may all look upon
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the guilty party this just goes to show
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that you guys are entirely too serious
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everybody pretty much laughed at it I
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thought it was really disgusting
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he was just dismissing everything that
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these people had seen and said just like
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we're all Looney Tunes I just thought
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that was a really improper attitude for
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somebody in his position nobody in state
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local federal military nobody wanted to
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talk about it they didn't want to
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interview witnesses they said it didn't
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happen they said it didn't concern them
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there was one Councilwoman Frances
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Barwood she's the one that spoke up and
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said why don't we investigate and then
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when it came time for her election she
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lost and and the depressed the media
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everybody else was really trashing it
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bad why is everybody so afraid and the
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only thing I can think of is one they're
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afraid of their careers which you know
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comes to a point of what's more
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important your soul your job and I guess
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to them is their job and the second
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thing is the scoring factor the US
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military's involvement in the UFO
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subject dates back to World War two it
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began with the sighting by Air Force
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pilots of mysterious luminous orbs
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called Foo Fighters which would pace
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aircraft during missions and died away
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they fly circles around anything you've
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got that strange behavior includes the
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ability to both hover and move at
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extremely high velocity to make
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right-angled turns at high speed to go
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straight up straight down all of this
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typically without any noise without any
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visible external engine without any
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wings without any tail we simply could
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not do that back 50 years ago in the
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summer of 1947 numerous UFOs were
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spotted by local authorities airline
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pilots and civilians worldwide by July
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these sightings made headlines and
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newspapers all across the United States
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culminating on the 8th of July with the
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alleged recovery of a crashed disc on a
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ranch near Roswell New Mexico
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the military were quick to respond
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they send agents out all over this area
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here to try to get information on Raza
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and yet we stood back like fools and
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said that didn't exist whose water
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balloon 50 years after the incident
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colonel Philip J Corso formerly a member
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of the National Security Council
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revealed that the weather balloons over
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Roswell was a cover story for the crash
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of an alien craft we had to cover to
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protect our own this lady because they
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tempt us as cooks and destroy the
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organization you had understand what was
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going on in the government and the
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climate of opinion law so discretion
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better part of Allan we just kept
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ourselves only some certain people know
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about it hit the head bring the brain no
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paper trail although the official
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position claimed that UFOs didn't exist
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this secret memorandum written by
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general Nathan twining suggests
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otherwise
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the consensus expressed by the air
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material command was that the phenomenon
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reported is something real and not
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visionary or fictitious the memo
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continues there are objects probably
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approximating the shape of a disc of
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such appreciable size as to appear to be
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as large as a man-made aircraft
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in this chaotic climate and in an effort
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to reorganize the US military
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President Truman passed the National
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Security Act this act built the
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framework for America's modern national
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security structure among other things
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the Act established the National
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Security Council and the CIA the
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National Security Act of 1947 allowed
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for the creation of a state within a
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state author of UFOs and the national
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security state Richard Dolan asserts
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that the signing of the National
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Security Act created an intelligence
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infrastructure capable of maintaining a
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very high level of secrecy one with an
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enormous amount of power an enormous
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amount of wealth an enormous amount of
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secrecy and latitude of action the level
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of secrecy imposed by the US government
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on the UFO issue is revealed in this
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top-secret memorandum it was written in
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1950 by electronics engineer Wilbert
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Smith a high-ranking official in the
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Canadian Department of transport
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after a meeting with a top government
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scientist employed by the Pentagon Smith
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was informed that flying saucers exists
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and more significantly the matter is the
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most highly classified subject in the
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United States government rating higher
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even than the h-bomb
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in my opinion I think they were worried
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that they would panic the public if they
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knew that someone had vehicles that had
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this kind of performance way back right
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after World War two on a clear night in
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February of 1951 lieutenant Graham
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Bethune sat at the controls of a US Navy
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transport plane enroute from Iceland to
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America the flight was routine until
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Bethune spotted a strange group of
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lights below his aircraft and we were at
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10,000 feet this was about 15 miles away
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it came up to us like that just about
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that fast and of course I disengaged the
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autopilot to put the nose over I thought
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we'd be able to go under this thing and
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not collide with it and one idea that
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staring me in the face and you couldn't
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see anything out the cockpit we could
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tell it was a monster about 300 feet in
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diameter as it drifted out to our right
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we could see the dome according to
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lieutenant Bethune the object remained
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in this position for about a minute it
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then accelerated rapidly and disappeared
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above the horizon
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upon landing at an air base in Tiffin
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London he was briefed and interrogated
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by several officers from nib
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intelligence at the conclusion he was
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ordered never speak about this incident
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again
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you accept anything like that simply
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because you're in the military and
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that's your job is to defend the country
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and whatever they tell you to do you do
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the identity of the group responsible
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for imposing the secrecy around the UFO
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shoe was revealed to lieutenant Bethune
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vii later in a conversation with an
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officer from Naval Intelligence and I
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asked him the question what happens to
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this report where does it go he said it
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goes to Navy intelligence chief naval
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operation then it goes to a Joint
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Intelligence Committee now of course
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later on I learned that was ma je I see
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which is majority 82 Joint Intelligence
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no he said this is a small committee but
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this committee determined whether it
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would affect our national security that
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if it did it would probably never go
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anywhere else
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one of the main arguments used to deny
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the possibility of interstellar travel
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is the question of distance
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the closest star Alpha Centauri is 4.2
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light-years away
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if astronauts traveled to this star at
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the speed they reach the moon it would
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take them roughly 100,000 years another
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major obstacle in obtaining interstellar
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travel would be the amount of fuel
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required when you're driving a car the
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amount of propellant you have to carry
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in your fuel tank is very small just a
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few percent of the weight of the car
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when you're trying to carry enough
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propellant to take a rocket ship vast
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distances even in our solar system
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pretty soon you find yourself carrying a
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propellant just to propel the propellant
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this problem skyrockets to infinity so
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we'd want to go to propulsive systems
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that have very very high exhaust
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velocities and with a chemical reaction
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essentially a barely an explosion in a
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chemical rocket you have a limit to that
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and that limit is currently almost met
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by the shuttle engines you can't go
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beyond it very well and so we have to go
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to some other kind of propulsive source
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even if we could develop a radical form
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of propulsion capable of obtaining near
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light speed
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Einstein's theory of relativity tells us
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that we would encounter another enormous
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problem there's a law of relativity that
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says that the closer you try to
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accelerate something like a rocket to
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the speed of light the more massive it
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becomes it so it becomes infinitely
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massive at the speed of light which
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makes it impossible to get there new way
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of thinking about the universe physics
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professor Rhodes scholar and author of
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the national bestseller the elegant
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universe dr. Brian Greene has been
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researching relativity and quantum
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physics for several decades dr. Greene
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brings up another problem with traveling
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near the speed of light
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if astronauts one day go to the moon and
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beyond and ships that travel at a
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substantial fraction of the speed of
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light when they return to earth
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relativity really tells us they will be
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in for a shock because while they may
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have thought a few months went by
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they'll get back to earth and they'll
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see that years and years hundreds
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perhaps thousands of years will have
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gone by this is not science fiction
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this is science fact so the idea of
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traveling between sol between our
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systems in normal space I don't believe
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is possible we have to invoke jump gates
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from Babylon 5 warp drives from Star
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Trek and of course in hundred years who
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knows what might develop
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although at present the solution to
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interstellar travel may sound like
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science fiction a growing number of
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scientists are exploring radical new
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theories that may circumvent these
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obstacles we're beginning to discover in
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theoretical physics that maybe our
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entire universe is just a subset of a
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much greater universe a
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multi-dimensional universe that's being
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investigated in modern superstring and M
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brain theory in the context of those
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theories there may be new possibilities
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are so to speak step outside of
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space-time move somewhere else and come
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back into our universe at some distant
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location
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Einstein teaches us that the fabric of
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space can respond to its environment it
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can warp and curve and in fact the
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equations of general relativity allowed
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the fabric of space to have severe bends
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so long as you distribute matter and
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energy in the appropriate way you can
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bend space fairly significantly so in
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principle it's possible that if you want
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to go from one end of the universe to
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another you don't have to travel all
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along the fabric of space maybe you can
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bend the fabric of space and then travel
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from here to here very short journey by
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a shortcut or wormhole continuing
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research into the possibilities of
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interstellar travel are currently being
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conducted by NASA's breakthrough
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propulsion team headed by Marc Millis
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what we're trying to do is break it down
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into the smaller steps to attack the
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critical make break issues of some of
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the things we need to find out can repel
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a vehicle with a propellant can't
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conserve momentum in the process the
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issues Bassin like travel the cloudy
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violence and things like that address
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those and smaller steps to see if you
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conventionally lead that way today we
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have scientists working for NASA working
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for the US Air Force working for British
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Aerospace working for other firms and
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agencies that we don't even know about
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that are intent on discovering how to do
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star travel they have already decided it
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can be done theoretic
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now the question is okay what's the
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trick let's figure it out if you look
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back fifty a hundred years - what
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Sciences we knew then and what we could
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do today
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who knows what we could do in the future
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so I have an inherent optimism about
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progress and I think that what seems
555
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:22,550
impossible today will possibly be
556
00:25:22,550 --> 00:25:25,170
possible tomorrow we're at that point of
557
00:25:25,170 --> 00:25:26,640
imagining these things asking these
558
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,540
technological questions clearly that
559
00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:33,420
opens the door to at least the
560
00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:35,250
possibility that others have figured it
561
00:25:35,250 --> 00:25:37,610
out already
562
00:25:52,770 --> 00:25:56,070
in 1965 Gordon Cooper was the last
563
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:57,900
American astronaut to go up into space
564
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:09,080
alone he orbited the planet 22 times
565
00:26:17,789 --> 00:26:21,269
I think if those don't you they know me
566
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:24,239
I know that I've always spoken honestly
567
00:26:24,239 --> 00:26:26,429
and straightforward to you
568
00:26:26,429 --> 00:26:30,419
I can't do so today ten years earlier
569
00:26:30,419 --> 00:26:31,889
while stationed at Edwards Air Force
570
00:26:31,889 --> 00:26:32,580
Base
571
00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:34,320
Cooper witnessed an event that has yet
572
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,119
to be explained nearly 50 years later he
573
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,590
was supervising the filming of a
574
00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:43,109
precision landing facility for f-86
575
00:26:43,109 --> 00:26:45,739
fighter jets
576
00:26:48,580 --> 00:26:50,950
suddenly a saucer-like craft flew
577
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:53,200
directly over the cameraman three
578
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,210
landing gear apparatus opened and the
579
00:26:55,210 --> 00:26:58,390
object landed on the dry lake bed they
580
00:26:58,390 --> 00:27:01,630
took all saucer shape a double index at
581
00:27:01,630 --> 00:27:04,330
Metallica and they went out cameras and
582
00:27:04,330 --> 00:27:07,990
moved on out toward him filming and he
583
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:09,970
left it off put the gear back in the
584
00:27:09,970 --> 00:27:12,910
well and find out the very high rate is
585
00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:16,360
being disappeared Cooper had the film
586
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:20,000
footage of the strange craft developed
587
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,559
by the time it returned from processing
588
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,179
he had gone up through the ranks to
589
00:27:24,179 --> 00:27:25,260
report the incident
590
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:29,220
anyway the colonel telling me do you
591
00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:31,049
know when the film arrived at my desk to
592
00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:33,030
put it in the carrier pouch there would
593
00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:35,070
be occurred there at my office by that
594
00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:38,130
time already and they'd arranged for him
595
00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:40,380
to fly in our base airplane back to
596
00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:47,070
Washington with he's found we didn't
597
00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:49,140
have a chance to run it I had a chance
598
00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:51,900
to hold it up to the wind and look at it
599
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,809
certainly good found after the developed
600
00:27:54,809 --> 00:27:57,270
film was sent by plane to Washington it
601
00:27:57,270 --> 00:27:59,940
was never seen or heard of again did you
602
00:27:59,940 --> 00:28:01,890
keep in touch with anybody discussed how
603
00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,600
would I keep in touch with anybody about
604
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,160
it
605
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,809
there's no way within the military or
606
00:28:06,809 --> 00:28:08,309
within the government of keeping track
607
00:28:08,309 --> 00:28:10,950
or something that is classified unless
608
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:12,570
you were directly involved in it and I
609
00:28:12,570 --> 00:28:14,820
was not it will be ready I went into
610
00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:17,040
space to learn about the universe we
611
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,820
live in to get new insights to go beyond
612
00:28:20,820 --> 00:28:25,429
the boundaries of our known existence
613
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,220
Apollo 14 astronaut and sixth man on the
614
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:31,500
moon edgar mitchell states in his book
615
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:33,809
the way of the explorer that he's never
616
00:28:33,809 --> 00:28:36,650
had first-hand experience with UFOs
617
00:28:36,650 --> 00:28:39,809
however he has met with credible
618
00:28:39,809 --> 00:28:42,030
professionals within two governments who
619
00:28:42,030 --> 00:28:43,980
have testified to their own first-hand
620
00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:46,860
experiences with close encounters during
621
00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:49,169
their official duties the only people I
622
00:28:49,169 --> 00:28:51,210
know of that claim to have been in that
623
00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:54,179
position are former intelligence
624
00:28:54,179 --> 00:28:57,240
military and government people and some
625
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,780
contractor people whose official duties
626
00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:04,410
in the early days were to investigate
627
00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:07,470
this and know about it those people are
628
00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:11,809
under were under at that time great
629
00:29:11,809 --> 00:29:14,520
restrictions and high security clearance
630
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,679
that prevented them from telling the
631
00:29:16,679 --> 00:29:19,110
general public about what we
632
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:20,760
photographed out there affected me for
633
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,790
the rest of my life in 1964 former US
634
00:29:23,790 --> 00:29:25,950
Air Force lieutenant Bob Jacobs was in
635
00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:29,040
the 1369 photo squadron at Vandenberg
636
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,650
Air Force Base in California he was in
637
00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:33,230
charge of photo optical
638
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:35,059
instrumentation at a tracking site in
639
00:29:35,059 --> 00:29:41,360
Big Sur 124 miles away his mission was
640
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,429
to film an Atlas rocket go through all
641
00:29:43,429 --> 00:29:46,010
three stages of powered flight this
642
00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:47,780
particular mission was part of the Nike
643
00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:49,760
Zeus objective for the development of an
644
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,070
anti-missile missile during the height
645
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:55,190
of the Cold War all cameras rolled as
646
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:57,500
they heard liftoff from Vandenberg over
647
00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:00,010
their radio
648
00:30:09,370 --> 00:30:13,669
you're looking down south south west and
649
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:15,590
the missile popped up through the fog
650
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:19,159
was just beautiful and our guy is on our
651
00:30:19,159 --> 00:30:21,980
m45 tracking mount with 180 inch lenses
652
00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:22,850
on it got it
653
00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:25,070
and sure enough we could see all three
654
00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:26,539
stages of powered flight as they burned
655
00:30:26,539 --> 00:30:28,370
out and dropped away and then of course
656
00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:30,140
to our naked eye always thought was a
657
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:32,990
cosmic trail going off into subspace
658
00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:35,990
so we whoop eating shouted and heard the
659
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:39,049
film rap off in the in the BU telescope
660
00:30:39,049 --> 00:30:42,200
and figured well that was our first big
661
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,110
deal we got it lieutenant Jacobs then
662
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:46,880
took the cans of film down to Vandenberg
663
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,389
to have them develop that night the
664
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:52,220
following morning Jacobs was ordered to
665
00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:54,110
go immediately to the office of major
666
00:30:54,110 --> 00:30:56,510
Florence J Mannesmann the ranking
667
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:58,429
optical instrumentation officer in
668
00:30:58,429 --> 00:31:00,740
charge I walked into his office and they
669
00:31:00,740 --> 00:31:02,690
had a screen and a 16 millimeter
670
00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:05,809
projector setup there was a couch and
671
00:31:05,809 --> 00:31:07,789
major Mansmann said sit down and there
672
00:31:07,789 --> 00:31:10,789
were two guys as I recall two guys he in
673
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:13,669
grey suits civilian clothes which was
674
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:18,350
fairly unusual um and a major Mansmann
675
00:31:18,350 --> 00:31:21,740
said watch this and turned on the film
676
00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:23,539
projector and I watched the screen and
677
00:31:23,539 --> 00:31:25,970
there was the launch from the day or two
678
00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:28,460
before it at Big Sur as the Atlas
679
00:31:28,460 --> 00:31:31,100
missile entered the frame we could see
680
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:34,419
the whole third stage which is which has
681
00:31:34,419 --> 00:31:37,519
two rocket nozzles like this and one in
682
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:38,779
the center or gimballed one in the
683
00:31:38,779 --> 00:31:41,539
center filling our frame from a hundred
684
00:31:41,539 --> 00:31:44,000
and about 160 miles it was pretty
685
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,220
exciting optics and then on that
686
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:49,429
telescope we could see the warhead the
687
00:31:49,429 --> 00:31:52,070
dummy warhead according to Jacobs at
688
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:53,840
this stage the rocket was travelling
689
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,880
between eleven and fourteen thousand
690
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,649
miles per hour when a saucer-shaped
691
00:31:57,649 --> 00:32:00,860
craft entered the frame it flew into the
692
00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:03,110
frame like this and it shot a beam of
693
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:07,220
light at the warhead now remember all
694
00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:08,840
this stuff is flying at several thousand
695
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,029
miles an hour so this thing fires a beam
696
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:12,830
of light at the warhead hits it fires
697
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:14,659
another beam of white and then flies out
698
00:32:14,659 --> 00:32:15,440
the way it came in
699
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,190
and the warhead tumbles out of it out of
700
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:21,130
eight
701
00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:23,330
now when the lights came on major
702
00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:25,100
Mansmann turned around looked at me and
703
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,110
said were you guys screwing around up
704
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:32,299
there and I said no sir and he said what
705
00:32:32,299 --> 00:32:36,350
was that and I said it looks to me like
706
00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:41,809
we got a UFO nearly two decades later
707
00:32:41,809 --> 00:32:43,429
several letters written by major
708
00:32:43,429 --> 00:32:45,590
Florence J manse Minh were obtained in
709
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:49,540
one dated March 8th 1983 major Mansmann
710
00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:52,179
corroborated lieutenant Jacobs story in
711
00:32:52,179 --> 00:32:55,450
the film the assumption was at that time
712
00:32:55,450 --> 00:32:57,679
extraterrestrial details would be
713
00:32:57,679 --> 00:33:00,350
sketchy and from memory the shape was
714
00:33:00,350 --> 00:33:02,900
classic discs the center seemed to be a
715
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:07,100
raised bubble now major Mansmann said to
716
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:14,000
me after some discussion about it and he
717
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,890
said you are never to speak of this
718
00:33:15,890 --> 00:33:16,330
again
719
00:33:16,330 --> 00:33:19,250
as far as you're concerned this never
720
00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:23,179
happened in another letter major
721
00:33:23,179 --> 00:33:25,610
Mansmann describes how two agents took
722
00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:28,100
the footage they did not sign out for
723
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,230
all the footage but took out that part
724
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:32,210
that showed the encounter and returned
725
00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,160
the rest of the film as a complete
726
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,890
package the one agent stated as he
727
00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:39,440
handed me back the film that leaves you
728
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,010
off the hook but not off any disclosure
729
00:33:42,010 --> 00:33:45,559
understood naturally my answer was yes
730
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,290
sir major Mansmann never saw it again
731
00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:50,900
and as far as I'm concerned or nobody
732
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:52,520
else ever saw it again certainly not at
733
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,870
Vandenberg I'm certain that it left
734
00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:57,010
Annenberg and went somewhere else
735
00:33:57,340 --> 00:34:00,049
another case involving nuclear missiles
736
00:34:00,049 --> 00:34:01,880
happened three years later at Malmstrom
737
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,669
Air Force Base in Montana this site is
738
00:34:04,669 --> 00:34:08,320
the largest missile field in the world
739
00:34:08,889 --> 00:34:11,750
exactly we're told not to talk about we
740
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:15,918
did not talk about anyone as a Strategic
741
00:34:15,918 --> 00:34:18,109
Air Command launch controller Lieutenant
742
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:20,000
Colonel Robert Salas was one of the men
743
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,649
responsible for the deployment of
744
00:34:21,649 --> 00:34:25,359
nuclear Minuteman missiles
745
00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:28,359
three-two-one
746
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:35,119
these missiles were to be launched as a
747
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:36,859
counterattack in the event of nuclear
748
00:34:36,859 --> 00:34:43,668
war on March 16 1967 lieutenant colonel
749
00:34:43,668 --> 00:34:45,800
Salas was on duty when he was contacted
750
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,989
by his two side guard staying that there
751
00:34:47,989 --> 00:34:50,000
was an unidentified object above them so
752
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,050
site Salas ordered the guard to observe
753
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:55,969
and report back on any further
754
00:34:55,969 --> 00:34:57,859
development that he called back within a
755
00:34:57,859 --> 00:35:00,800
few minutes and was very frightened I
756
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960
could tell by his voice he was extremely
757
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,570
agitated he said there was an object
758
00:35:07,570 --> 00:35:10,280
hovering outside the front gate a
759
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,780
reddish orange oval-shaped object and it
760
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:16,190
just hung there quietly
761
00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:20,390
I went woke up my commander and told him
762
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:24,950
about the two phone calls and as I was
763
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:27,560
telling him about the phone calls our
764
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,250
missiles went into no-go condition one
765
00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:35,170
after the other we lost nearly 20
766
00:35:35,170 --> 00:35:39,109
missiles that morning after speaking
767
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:40,820
with his commander solace again
768
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:43,820
contacted the topside guard the guard
769
00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:47,630
said that the UFO had vanished basically
770
00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:50,720
just took off at high speed there's no
771
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,810
longer there these missiles are
772
00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:57,740
controlled individually so if something
773
00:35:57,740 --> 00:35:59,720
did happen within the system the
774
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,580
electrical system might say or the
775
00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:04,010
command and control system for one
776
00:36:04,010 --> 00:36:06,800
missile one launch facility it would not
777
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,480
affect the others and in addition these
778
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,599
missiles are separated by miles so all
779
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:17,380
these things point to the fact that
780
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:22,120
somehow this object was able to
781
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,940
disable these missiles later that day
782
00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:27,980
solace was ordered to report to the Air
783
00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:29,590
Force Office of Special Investigations
784
00:36:29,590 --> 00:36:33,320
for debriefing by two OSI officers and
785
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,260
so after we gave our little debrief the
786
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:38,750
first thing they have OSI guy did is
787
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:41,750
stand up and said you need to sign these
788
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:43,730
documents not to disclose any of this to
789
00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:48,860
anyone ever and we signed and basically
790
00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:52,100
that was it they neither one of them
791
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:54,560
asked too many more questions and we
792
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,920
were escorted out several recently
793
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,290
declassified documents supports Alice's
794
00:37:00,290 --> 00:37:03,310
claims of UFO sightings near Malmstrom
795
00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:06,560
this preliminary report dated the 24th
796
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,590
of March 1967 states that between the
797
00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:12,320
hours of 2100 and Oh 400 Mountain
798
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,780
Standard time numerous reports were
799
00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:16,580
received by Malmstrom Air Force Base
800
00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:19,340
agencies of UFO sightings in the Great
801
00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:23,630
Falls Montana area it goes on further to
802
00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:27,020
state that reports of a UFO landing near
803
00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:29,570
belt Montana were received from several
804
00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:32,030
sources including deputies of Cascade
805
00:37:32,030 --> 00:37:36,350
County Sheriff's Office another formerly
806
00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:38,630
classified secret Air Force Telex states
807
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:41,030
that the fact that no apparent reason
808
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:43,100
for the loss of ten missiles can be
809
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:45,500
readily identified is cause for grave
810
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:51,020
concern to this headquarters in 1993
811
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:52,790
after Lieutenant Colonel Salas had
812
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:54,800
retired from the Air Force he tried to
813
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,630
gain access to official Air Force
814
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:59,660
records of the incident in a letter from
815
00:37:59,660 --> 00:38:01,400
the Department of the Air Force he was
816
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,640
informed that no UFO report affected
817
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,460
national security making reference to an
818
00:38:07,460 --> 00:38:09,710
attached Air Force fact sheet which
819
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:13,400
states no UFO reported investigated and
820
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,560
evaluated by the Air Force has ever
821
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,660
given any indication of threat to our
822
00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:22,940
national security if 20 nuclear missiles
823
00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:25,040
going down at the same time UFOs are
824
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,140
sighted nearly 20 is not a national
825
00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:32,750
security incident and I don't know what
826
00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:33,690
is
827
00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:36,369
if unidentified flying objects are
828
00:38:36,369 --> 00:38:38,259
capable of disabling our most powerful
829
00:38:38,259 --> 00:38:40,809
weapon systems then understandably the
830
00:38:40,809 --> 00:38:42,730
military would not want to reveal any
831
00:38:42,730 --> 00:38:45,630
information exposing its vulnerability
832
00:38:45,630 --> 00:38:48,099
this is confirmed in a letter from the
833
00:38:48,099 --> 00:38:49,839
department of the US Air Force which
834
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:52,029
states as regards this subject matter
835
00:38:52,029 --> 00:38:54,670
mere existence or nonexistence is
836
00:38:54,670 --> 00:38:57,009
currently and properly classified per
837
00:38:57,009 --> 00:38:59,410
executive order and exempt from
838
00:38:59,410 --> 00:39:01,509
mandatory disclosure under the Freedom
839
00:39:01,509 --> 00:39:03,640
of Information Act because it would
840
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,799
reveal defense capability or lack
841
00:39:05,799 --> 00:39:09,430
thereof this letter was a response to an
842
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:11,529
inquiry made by electronic system
843
00:39:11,529 --> 00:39:14,529
technician Lee Graham at the time Mr
844
00:39:14,529 --> 00:39:16,480
Graham worked at Aerojet a prime
845
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,519
contractor to the US Air Force in
846
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:20,730
developing DSP satellites
847
00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:23,589
he asked the foreign technology division
848
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:25,420
if the satellite system he worked on
849
00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:29,829
could and had detected UFOs perhaps we
850
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:33,309
need some outside universal threat to
851
00:39:33,309 --> 00:39:35,259
man five separate occasions Ronald
852
00:39:35,259 --> 00:39:37,119
Reagan made references to an outside
853
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,579
alien threat and the unifying effect it
854
00:39:39,579 --> 00:39:42,099
would have on us all one such reference
855
00:39:42,099 --> 00:39:44,710
was made in September of 1987 while
856
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:46,559
addressing the United Nations I
857
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:49,450
occasionally think how quickly our
858
00:39:49,450 --> 00:39:53,739
differences worldwide would vanish if we
859
00:39:53,739 --> 00:39:56,289
were facing an alien threat from outside
860
00:39:56,289 --> 00:40:01,930
this world and yet I ask you is not an
861
00:40:01,930 --> 00:40:05,049
alien force already among us what could
862
00:40:05,049 --> 00:40:07,660
be more alien to the universal
863
00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:10,059
aspirations of our peoples than war and
864
00:40:10,059 --> 00:40:13,410
the threat of war
865
00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:27,890
not every government chooses to deny the
866
00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:31,550
existence of UFOs since the fall of
867
00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:34,130
communism in 1989 information
868
00:40:34,130 --> 00:40:35,810
surrounding the subject has become much
869
00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:44,900
more accessible in Russia cosmonauts
870
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:46,970
Pavel Popovich was one of Russia's
871
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:49,370
earliest cosmonauts he joins the ranks
872
00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:51,170
of an increasing number of military
873
00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:53,570
personnel who have testified as to the
874
00:40:53,570 --> 00:40:56,980
validity of the UFO phenomena
875
00:40:56,980 --> 00:40:59,390
major-general Popovich shared with us a
876
00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:01,340
sighting he had while flying home from
877
00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:03,650
Washington DC with a delegation of
878
00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:06,770
scientists not only was leaked that
879
00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:08,600
equation one individual was really
880
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,670
aluminum matter but smartly to believe
881
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:13,520
me another yep a squadron was message
882
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,010
another effective stress or study some
883
00:41:16,010 --> 00:41:19,790
artillery atom the practically a morbid
884
00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:24,860
Pantera at mass and morbid Natisha metro
885
00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:29,720
fish a little object presume ramming a
886
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,850
true one day for me around a bit and a
887
00:41:31,850 --> 00:41:35,080
true when he nearly nearly yurka Billy
888
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,690
New Year's resolution which mr. beetle
889
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:41,480
yes they know get the typically Titanic
890
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,710
operate on new at a unit on Apollo's
891
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:47,330
pilots contacted ground control
892
00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:49,460
ground control did not detect anything
893
00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:51,770
on radar even though the object could be
894
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:58,730
seen by all occupant of the plane Kurisu
895
00:41:58,730 --> 00:42:01,510
yes Ramesh yet the premier Aten
896
00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:03,890
diversity Sir Philip issue kilometer of
897
00:42:03,890 --> 00:42:06,950
just don't partial scholarship Rivera
898
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:09,950
yet a politician minimum cost on a
899
00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:14,000
bananas no Anna bistra no Pacino
900
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,090
yet the chicken treats Saugatuck
901
00:42:17,090 --> 00:42:23,480
impartial a bananas ensure in academic
902
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,730
in Victoria to absolutely anything even
903
00:42:25,730 --> 00:42:28,369
amongst covered Turtles object
904
00:42:28,369 --> 00:42:31,830
now we're going to me the head of spell
905
00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:35,250
special intelligence section of the
906
00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:37,910
center
907
00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:44,500
major-general my cigarettes live just
908
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,200
outside Moscow is Star City this is the
909
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,460
home of the Russian space program
910
00:43:02,970 --> 00:43:05,520
during the space race in the late 50s
911
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,440
and early 60s the Russians also
912
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,780
experienced numerous sightings of UFOs
913
00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:28,270
in Star City we met with general
914
00:43:28,270 --> 00:43:30,310
Alexeyev who spoke with us about the
915
00:43:30,310 --> 00:43:32,440
history of unidentified flying objects
916
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:39,640
over Russia she spent on the propeller
917
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,780
Callisto etc we're Americans IDO
918
00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:46,930
molinaro's who scheduled in a pulsar and
919
00:43:46,930 --> 00:43:54,210
Nokia Tamira CCMS Ryu Luigi Washington
920
00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:57,550
Missouri alum which is neutral casa de
921
00:43:57,550 --> 00:44:01,360
la bola countries so they started wash
922
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,690
em of the Whitlam American some satyros
923
00:44:04,690 --> 00:44:08,050
Kim Syria's not a spirits during the
924
00:44:08,050 --> 00:44:10,750
cold war with the Soviet Union the u-2
925
00:44:10,750 --> 00:44:12,490
spy plane was one of the most highly
926
00:44:12,490 --> 00:44:15,370
classified projects in the late 50s
927
00:44:15,370 --> 00:44:17,320
Gordon Cooper was involved with its
928
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,780
research and development being familiar
929
00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:22,090
with that eras cutting-edge technology
930
00:44:22,090 --> 00:44:24,220
Cooper was certain that the craft he'd
931
00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:27,010
seen was not manufactured on this planet
932
00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:30,610
I mean that we didn't have any vehicles
933
00:44:30,610 --> 00:44:35,470
of that kind and I was 99.9% sure that
934
00:44:35,470 --> 00:44:38,160
the Russians didn't have any of that pie
935
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,330
yes the duty cycle in is possible what
936
00:44:43,330 --> 00:44:44,740
photo a postcard
937
00:44:44,740 --> 00:44:46,930
I was happy Dussehra gather the retina
938
00:44:46,930 --> 00:44:52,180
podium but the nude or later no achieve
939
00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:55,470
the fantasy
940
00:44:58,299 --> 00:45:01,549
by the 70s the Russian military began to
941
00:45:01,549 --> 00:45:04,069
take the UFO subject very seriously
942
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:07,640
Pato confirm at singing the stick look a
943
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,630
quarter moon a moon very resourceful
944
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:13,250
they always the muchacha to infer
945
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:15,920
bathroom very nice a matured will
946
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,549
anyways work
947
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,430
at this point the Soviet Union allocated
948
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:23,260
a great sum of money towards a thorough
949
00:45:23,260 --> 00:45:28,200
investigation of the UFO phenomena yada
950
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,070
attributable opéra de la Isla de les
951
00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:37,930
mis' of washing their name what took
952
00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:42,760
that naturally do much stop this is
953
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:48,100
weakness released after the fall of the
954
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,350
Soviet Union blahs most brought about a
955
00:45:50,350 --> 00:45:53,260
new era of openness we traveled to
956
00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:55,359
mineral water a city near the Chechnyan
957
00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:57,310
border where we met with Deputy Minister
958
00:45:57,310 --> 00:45:58,359
of the Interior
959
00:45:58,359 --> 00:46:02,080
Colonel Levitch he shared with us a
960
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,000
sighting he had while flying in a
961
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,730
commercial jet over Russia he along with
962
00:46:06,730 --> 00:46:09,850
100 other passengers noticed a spherical
963
00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:12,940
object outside the plane that sharp not
964
00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:17,109
molinos nice cheese at cadets the fix
965
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:20,020
here Watson I misty a carboy as she
966
00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:22,810
showers to a NASA probe our diet
967
00:46:22,810 --> 00:46:27,720
narsimha not yet liver spirit Ottawa
968
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:32,740
Ches exam I presume Nellis we're a part
969
00:46:32,740 --> 00:46:34,540
of mineral in a wooded talk attack dama
970
00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:41,619
but he really is video at Redmond this
971
00:46:41,619 --> 00:46:43,480
siding led the colonel to do extensive
972
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,670
research on UFO incidents throughout
973
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:48,930
Russia Russian service console using
974
00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:52,840
bilasa created a my my post-op honestly
975
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,480
she attributed a solution request o-
976
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,660
publication Ebola Nostra Aetate Auto V
977
00:46:58,660 --> 00:47:03,270
nikto Jasha tire store at Critias very
978
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:06,940
Zanetti up Rita a team
979
00:47:06,940 --> 00:47:10,540
no problem America Hawaii unappreciated
980
00:47:10,540 --> 00:47:13,260
symbology
981
00:47:17,309 --> 00:47:20,229
140 miles north of London is Bentwaters
982
00:47:20,229 --> 00:47:23,709
England in December of 1980 the united
983
00:47:23,709 --> 00:47:25,599
states air force base armed with nuclear
984
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:28,089
weapons was reportedly the site of a
985
00:47:28,089 --> 00:47:30,249
series of UFO encounters over a
986
00:47:30,249 --> 00:47:48,880
three-day period responding to reports
987
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,549
of a possible downed aircraft three
988
00:47:51,549 --> 00:47:53,289
patrolmen were sent out to Rendlesham
989
00:47:53,289 --> 00:47:55,589
forest to investigate
990
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:58,779
airman first class Edward Caban Zagg was
991
00:47:58,779 --> 00:48:00,729
one of the security officers present
992
00:48:00,729 --> 00:48:04,779
that night we were on security one which
993
00:48:04,779 --> 00:48:07,449
was in charge of mobile security for the
994
00:48:07,449 --> 00:48:11,139
Woodbridge Base and we responded to
995
00:48:11,139 --> 00:48:14,319
jimbros his sighting of something out on
996
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:17,649
the edge of the flight line as the three
997
00:48:17,649 --> 00:48:19,209
officers approached the alleged crash
998
00:48:19,209 --> 00:48:21,339
site it became obvious that it wasn't
999
00:48:21,339 --> 00:48:23,949
what they were prepared for Jim burrows
1000
00:48:23,949 --> 00:48:25,359
would say to Jim Penniston do you see
1001
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:27,099
that do you see do you see what's out
1002
00:48:27,099 --> 00:48:28,989
there at that at the edge of the trees
1003
00:48:28,989 --> 00:48:31,839
and as we got closer and closer and saw
1004
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:34,089
it's like just looking up and then I
1005
00:48:34,089 --> 00:48:36,279
could see it moving left right left
1006
00:48:36,279 --> 00:48:42,630
right and it had blue white yellow light
1007
00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:46,160
the closer we would get to it we would
1008
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,400
lose communication you know with central
1009
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,670
security control Caban sag was sent back
1010
00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:54,680
towards the base to help transmit radio
1011
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,390
communications between the other two
1012
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:59,200
officers who went further to investigate
1013
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,970
what happened next according to a secret
1014
00:49:01,970 --> 00:49:03,740
Air Force memo obtained under the
1015
00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:05,780
Freedom of Information Act is that a
1016
00:49:05,780 --> 00:49:07,970
triangular-shaped object was found on
1017
00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:10,369
the forest floor it had a red light on
1018
00:49:10,369 --> 00:49:13,060
top and a bank of blue lights underneath
1019
00:49:13,060 --> 00:49:16,250
the Air Force memo continued as the
1020
00:49:16,250 --> 00:49:17,930
patrolman approached the object it
1021
00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:19,400
maneuvered through the trees and
1022
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,430
disappeared this Air Force memo was
1023
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:24,590
written by Deputy base commander Charles
1024
00:49:24,590 --> 00:49:27,230
halt they claimed that something from
1025
00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:30,200
outside the Earth's atmosphere landed at
1026
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,170
their Air Force Base they went and stood
1027
00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:34,880
by it they inspected it they
1028
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,250
photographed it the following day they
1029
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:39,109
took tests on the worth of ground where
1030
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:41,260
it had been and found radioactive
1031
00:49:41,260 --> 00:50:04,130
tracers I think it's fairly well known
1032
00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:08,810
that Colonel Holt and his team examined
1033
00:50:08,810 --> 00:50:11,510
the landing site very carefully both the
1034
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:15,220
damage to the trees and the three
1035
00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:17,630
indentations found on the forest floor
1036
00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:20,180
where this metallic craft was seen to
1037
00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:23,060
land while deputy base commander
1038
00:50:23,060 --> 00:50:25,339
Lieutenant Colonel Charles halt and
1039
00:50:25,339 --> 00:50:26,630
several fellow officers were
1040
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:28,700
investigating the alleged landing site
1041
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:32,270
he also witnessed multiple UFOs this
1042
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:34,339
event was captured on Colonel halts own
1043
00:50:34,339 --> 00:50:37,660
pocket tape recorder
1044
00:51:10,530 --> 00:51:13,450
the united states air force position is
1045
00:51:13,450 --> 00:51:15,280
that there was a sighting on the base
1046
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,710
witnessed by both high-ranking officers
1047
00:51:17,710 --> 00:51:20,440
and base security police however
1048
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,440
according to the united states air force
1049
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,300
military personnel mistook a stationary
1050
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:30,250
lighthouse for a UFO three competent Air
1051
00:51:30,250 --> 00:51:33,580
Force guys sought to not to ever talk
1052
00:51:33,580 --> 00:51:35,650
about it when he returned to the base
1053
00:51:35,650 --> 00:51:37,930
airman Caban Zig was ordered to report
1054
00:51:37,930 --> 00:51:40,570
to Colonel halt for debriefing he asked
1055
00:51:40,570 --> 00:51:42,400
me what I saw it there what happened and
1056
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,180
I believe I told him and I was told to
1057
00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:50,830
sign some paperwork stating that what I
1058
00:51:50,830 --> 00:51:54,040
saw it there was just the beacon that
1059
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,740
was that was out there and that and that
1060
00:51:56,740 --> 00:52:00,630
there was nothing out of the ordinary
1061
00:52:01,619 --> 00:52:04,359
what did happen over a period of three
1062
00:52:04,359 --> 00:52:06,850
days at Bentwaters did a UFO actually
1063
00:52:06,850 --> 00:52:09,490
land at a u.s. airbase in England that
1064
00:52:09,490 --> 00:52:11,920
is one explanation that it actually
1065
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,310
happened as Colonel Holt reported the
1066
00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:19,530
other explanation is that it didn't and
1067
00:52:19,530 --> 00:52:23,770
in that case one is bound to assume that
1068
00:52:23,770 --> 00:52:26,260
Colonel Holt and all his men were
1069
00:52:26,260 --> 00:52:29,530
hallucinating the British Ministry of
1070
00:52:29,530 --> 00:52:31,450
Defense's position is that nothing that
1071
00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:33,400
took place at Bentwaters was of any
1072
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,190
defense interest this view is criticized
1073
00:52:36,190 --> 00:52:37,960
by former chief of the Defence Staff
1074
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,350
Admiral Lord Hill Norton that the
1075
00:52:41,350 --> 00:52:45,760
colonel of an American Air Force Base in
1076
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,280
Suffolk and his Merry Men are
1077
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,710
hallucinating when there are nuclear
1078
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:53,980
armed aircraft on the base must be of
1079
00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:57,070
Defence interest if indeed what he says
1080
00:52:57,070 --> 00:52:59,859
took place did take this and why on
1081
00:52:59,859 --> 00:53:02,410
earth should he make it up then surely
1082
00:53:02,410 --> 00:53:07,210
the entry of a vehicle from outer space
1083
00:53:07,210 --> 00:53:10,390
certainly not man-made to a defence base
1084
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:13,390
in this country also cannot fail to be
1085
00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:15,880
of Defence interest the public position
1086
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,369
of the Ministry of Defence is that UFOs
1087
00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:19,360
posed
1088
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,430
no threat to the defense of the realm
1089
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:23,560
well I quite understand such statements
1090
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,570
and indeed during my tour of duty I
1091
00:53:25,570 --> 00:53:28,240
probably wrote statements like that from
1092
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:31,840
1992 to 1995 the British government
1093
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,630
employed Nick Pope to investigate UFO
1094
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:35,380
reports
1095
00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:38,470
he now differs with their position while
1096
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:40,390
it's true to say that there's been no
1097
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:43,870
overt hostile action it certainly seems
1098
00:53:43,870 --> 00:53:46,750
to me premature to say that there is
1099
00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:49,000
nothing of any defense significance when
1100
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,130
you don't know what they are
1101
00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:52,720
georgina Bruni has been researching the
1102
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:55,060
Bentwaters incident for over five years
1103
00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:57,850
her book you can't tell the people is
1104
00:53:57,850 --> 00:54:00,490
the definitive account of this case in
1105
00:54:00,490 --> 00:54:03,250
May of 2001 she was one of the first to
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00:54:03,250 --> 00:54:04,750
receive a number of previously
1107
00:54:04,750 --> 00:54:07,030
classified documents from the Ministry
1108
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:09,120
of Defence about the Bentwaters incident
1109
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,590
these documents are known as the
1110
00:54:11,590 --> 00:54:13,540
Rendlesham files in one of the first
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00:54:13,540 --> 00:54:17,110
documents in the file we have now in
1112
00:54:17,110 --> 00:54:20,170
black and white that general guy
1113
00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:22,480
Berryhill who was the chief of the
1114
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,820
United States Air Force in Europe was
1115
00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:28,060
handed taped evidence why would general
1116
00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:29,830
Gabriel one of the most important
1117
00:54:29,830 --> 00:54:32,290
members of the US military in Europe be
1118
00:54:32,290 --> 00:54:34,630
handed evidence for the incident unless
1119
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:37,990
it was of extreme significance the other
1120
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:40,270
significant factor is that this is not
1121
00:54:40,270 --> 00:54:42,400
your follow just talking here we have
1122
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,010
the Defense Intelligence staff carrying
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00:54:45,010 --> 00:54:46,660
out their own investigation and
1124
00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:49,600
admitting that the radiation readings
1125
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,660
were 10 times higher than normal one
1126
00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:54,100
other document released in the
1127
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:56,410
Rendlesham files is this defensive press
1128
00:54:56,410 --> 00:54:59,500
line issued by the mo D instructing the
1129
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:01,300
authorities how they should respond to
1130
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:01,990
the media
1131
00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:05,470
it states that mo D was satisfied that
1132
00:55:05,470 --> 00:55:07,150
there was nothing of Defense interest
1133
00:55:07,150 --> 00:55:10,660
and there was no question of any contact
1134
00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:12,760
with alien beings when I talked to
1135
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,260
Margaret Thatcher the former Prime
1136
00:55:14,260 --> 00:55:16,960
Minister of the United Kingdom about the
1137
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,260
subject of UFOs she said you have to
1138
00:55:20,260 --> 00:55:22,570
have the facts and you can't tell the
1139
00:55:22,570 --> 00:55:25,270
people we were told not to talk about it
1140
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:28,960
so we didn't what we saw out there was
1141
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,970
definitely
1142
00:55:30,970 --> 00:55:40,790
unidentifiable in the southwest of
1143
00:55:40,790 --> 00:55:41,360
England
1144
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,400
just outside Somerset there was another
1145
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,740
sighting it was captured on videotape
1146
00:55:45,740 --> 00:55:50,900
got it got it yeah I think it's coming
1147
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:51,260
this way
1148
00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:55,600
yeah yeah I can see
1149
00:55:56,050 --> 00:55:59,230
is it
1150
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:07,150
it is the UFO that you saw originally
1151
00:56:07,150 --> 00:56:11,620
was spotted props me about 200 yards to
1152
00:56:11,620 --> 00:56:14,560
the left of the aerial mast and I
1153
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,860
suppose it was probably at about 500
1154
00:56:17,860 --> 00:56:21,400
feet up it was very low in the sky and
1155
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,800
this is a really communication
1156
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,090
communication sir they've got three
1157
00:56:25,090 --> 00:56:29,980
military masts on there and it sends out
1158
00:56:29,980 --> 00:56:33,280
what is a navigational signal which is
1159
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,800
used for aircraft the other two areas
1160
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,020
that are near the top we're not quite
1161
00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:40,630
sure but there is a post frequency that
1162
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:43,560
comes from them
1163
00:56:49,070 --> 00:56:52,460
the actual UFO from the time it was
1164
00:56:52,460 --> 00:56:55,460
first seen by rod Dickinson who did the
1165
00:56:55,460 --> 00:56:58,550
filming it lasted approximately 12
1166
00:56:58,550 --> 00:57:01,640
minutes so it was quite a long period of
1167
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,390
time for a daylight sighting to occur we
1168
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:07,610
took this tape to be analyzed by Lucas
1169
00:57:07,610 --> 00:57:09,290
films special effects division
1170
00:57:09,290 --> 00:57:11,750
Industrial Light and Magic in San Rafael
1171
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:15,140
California here we met with Bill George
1172
00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:17,480
an academy award-winning visual effects
1173
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,210
supervisor over the last 20 years his
1174
00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:21,830
special effects have been featured in
1175
00:57:21,830 --> 00:57:24,310
films like Star Wars The Phantom Menace
1176
00:57:24,310 --> 00:57:27,410
the optical zoom certainly would he
1177
00:57:27,410 --> 00:57:29,300
analyzed this footage to determine its
1178
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:30,920
authenticity but there are several
1179
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,900
things that I see when the footage is
1180
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:35,510
running that tells me this was actually
1181
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:37,880
there when this was filmed first of all
1182
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,520
it's the shake the shake if you were to
1183
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,350
give me a background plate of just the
1184
00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:44,000
sky and say we want you to take this
1185
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,100
image of a flying saucer and match it in
1186
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:47,960
that's something that's technically very
1187
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,520
difficult to do because you would have
1188
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,260
to match putting the two elements
1189
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:52,400
together you would have to match the
1190
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,010
shake now certainly we have computers
1191
00:57:55,010 --> 00:57:56,840
that can track that but this is just
1192
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,730
this is all over the map a couple other
1193
00:57:58,730 --> 00:58:00,890
cues that tell me that this is actually
1194
00:58:00,890 --> 00:58:03,170
there when it was being filmed was that
1195
00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:04,880
it's going in and out of focus with the
1196
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,880
background because the camera is trying
1197
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,170
to compensate and trying to focus
1198
00:58:09,170 --> 00:58:11,360
probably have some sort of auto focus so
1199
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,830
the background is going in and out of
1200
00:58:12,830 --> 00:58:15,980
focus along with the object there are
1201
00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:17,690
these dark things flying through frame
1202
00:58:17,690 --> 00:58:19,490
and if someone was to have to put that
1203
00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:20,870
in there they would have to composite it
1204
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:22,550
in behind the birds it's a it would be a
1205
00:58:22,550 --> 00:58:24,800
technical problem Bill George couldn't
1206
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,020
say it was a real UFO but he could
1207
00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:29,330
confirm for us but the object was not
1208
00:58:29,330 --> 00:58:31,850
added in later given those Clues I'm
1209
00:58:31,850 --> 00:58:33,890
convinced that this object was there
1210
00:58:33,890 --> 00:58:38,300
when this person was was taping in 1968
1211
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:40,490
the UFO subject was being debated at the
1212
00:58:40,490 --> 00:58:43,420
highest levels of government
1213
00:58:43,609 --> 00:58:45,960
the debate was triggered by a major
1214
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,490
sighting over the state of Michigan on
1215
00:58:50,490 --> 00:58:52,740
either side and then the red light was
1216
00:58:52,740 --> 00:58:54,869
sort of passing a goal the whole thing
1217
00:58:54,869 --> 00:58:57,990
look like a round dip when he got to the
1218
00:58:57,990 --> 00:59:00,500
top of the trees it stopped you know
1219
00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:02,160
light come on
1220
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,830
good evening Walter Cronkite reported
1221
00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:07,260
the incident on CBS residents of the
1222
00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:09,960
area saw it the police saw it
1223
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,030
sergeant Newell Snyder of the Sheriff's
1224
00:59:12,030 --> 00:59:13,920
Office remembered it well enough to draw
1225
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:19,619
it what do you think it was the Air
1226
00:59:19,619 --> 00:59:22,170
Force Senate consultant Alan Hynek in to
1227
00:59:22,170 --> 00:59:24,839
review what had been going on
1228
00:59:24,839 --> 00:59:29,790
and Hynek off about one or two days on
1229
00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:31,859
the field had to face a big press
1230
00:59:31,859 --> 00:59:33,990
conference he said well I don't know
1231
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:36,720
what was going on it may have been Marsh
1232
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,510
gas a little bit of swamp white appears
1233
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:41,790
here it goes out another one appears
1234
00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:43,859
over here that goes out and but the
1235
00:59:43,859 --> 00:59:46,290
illusion is you from a distance is that
1236
00:59:46,290 --> 00:59:47,849
the objects that moved back and forth
1237
00:59:47,849 --> 00:59:51,150
the public was absolutely furious and
1238
00:59:51,150 --> 00:59:54,320
the press can't made fun of it and
1239
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,960
congressman fault of Michigan thought
1240
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,650
would take action and he calls the pipe
1241
01:00:00,650 --> 01:00:03,470
hearings by the Armed Services Committee
1242
01:00:03,470 --> 01:00:07,410
this matter could be in a recent
1243
01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:09,510
occlusive telephone of view when Ford
1244
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:11,220
confirmed his involvement in the
1245
01:00:11,220 --> 01:00:25,160
investigation an investigation be taken
1246
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,570
Congress heard testimony from a number
1247
01:00:27,570 --> 01:00:28,339
of witnesses
1248
01:00:28,339 --> 01:00:31,230
former Marine Corps Major Donald Kehoe
1249
01:00:31,230 --> 01:00:33,480
asserted that there was far more to UFOs
1250
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,880
than swamp gas in fact the Air Force at
1251
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,770
one time had a top-secret estimate that
1252
01:00:37,770 --> 01:00:39,720
these things were interplanetary space
1253
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,440
ships today we have over 10,000 cases of
1254
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,119
wright-patterson Air Force Base
1255
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:49,089
oh wait 646 of these remaining
1256
01:00:49,089 --> 01:00:51,069
the Air Force has been accused from time
1257
01:00:51,069 --> 01:00:53,799
to time of hiding information about UFO
1258
01:00:53,799 --> 01:00:55,059
what do you have to say to that kind of
1259
01:00:55,059 --> 01:00:57,309
happy police charges are absolutely
1260
01:00:57,309 --> 01:00:58,299
untrue
1261
01:00:58,299 --> 01:01:00,249
the Air Force continued to maintain that
1262
01:01:00,249 --> 01:01:02,470
it was hiding nothing and we've always
1263
01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:04,779
honored accredited media when they want
1264
01:01:04,779 --> 01:01:07,779
to investigate a given specific sighting
1265
01:01:07,779 --> 01:01:09,819
there's nothing to hide there's nothing
1266
01:01:09,819 --> 01:01:13,809
to hide it off now this is not an attack
1267
01:01:13,809 --> 01:01:15,519
on the air force spokesman or the
1268
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:17,589
project spokesman they are simply
1269
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:19,109
following orders
1270
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:22,569
to explain away all UFO sightings as
1271
01:01:22,569 --> 01:01:24,160
quickly as possible when they become
1272
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,940
public and deny that you both really
1273
01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:31,569
exist so it was pressure from Congress
1274
01:01:31,569 --> 01:01:34,930
that led to the study ended up not being
1275
01:01:34,930 --> 01:01:38,589
an open study will you know it was a few
1276
01:01:38,589 --> 01:01:40,509
days long it ended up by being a project
1277
01:01:40,509 --> 01:01:42,910
given to university that lasted 18
1278
01:01:42,910 --> 01:01:46,359
months in an effort to maintain a
1279
01:01:46,359 --> 01:01:48,640
neutral investigation it was assigned to
1280
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,569
the University of Colorado the
1281
01:01:52,569 --> 01:01:54,940
University gathered a team of 11 eminent
1282
01:01:54,940 --> 01:01:57,220
scientists they were to analyze and make
1283
01:01:57,220 --> 01:01:59,140
public their conclusions of the most
1284
01:01:59,140 --> 01:02:04,779
compelling UFO cases as reported in the
1285
01:02:04,779 --> 01:02:07,450
1968 feature article published by Look
1286
01:02:07,450 --> 01:02:10,150
magazine the university study was doomed
1287
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:12,809
from the beginning
1288
01:02:16,140 --> 01:02:19,210
the project leader dr. Edward Condon
1289
01:02:19,210 --> 01:02:22,210
appeared to be biased from the start in
1290
01:02:22,210 --> 01:02:26,229
February of 1967 he stated my attitude
1291
01:02:26,229 --> 01:02:29,249
right now is that there's nothing to it
1292
01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:31,989
he added but I'm not supposed to reach a
1293
01:02:31,989 --> 01:02:40,809
conclusion for another year the look
1294
01:02:40,809 --> 01:02:42,549
article goes on to describe how two
1295
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:45,130
scientists were fired over a leaked memo
1296
01:02:45,130 --> 01:02:49,019
written by one of the project's managers
1297
01:02:49,019 --> 01:02:51,789
this memo dictated what the project's
1298
01:02:51,789 --> 01:02:53,769
conclusions were to be before the
1299
01:02:53,769 --> 01:02:58,779
project even started the leaked memo
1300
01:02:58,779 --> 01:03:01,539
read the trick would be I think to
1301
01:03:01,539 --> 01:03:03,160
describe the project so that to the
1302
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,960
public it would appear a totally
1303
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,180
objective study but to the scientific
1304
01:03:07,180 --> 01:03:09,369
community would present the image of a
1305
01:03:09,369 --> 01:03:11,289
group of non-believers trying their best
1306
01:03:11,289 --> 01:03:13,509
to be objective but having an almost
1307
01:03:13,509 --> 01:03:18,089
zero expectation of finding a saucer
1308
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:22,880
when representative J Edward Roush read
1309
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,979
the leaked memo and all the controversy
1310
01:03:24,979 --> 01:03:27,680
published by Look magazine he urged
1311
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,420
Congress to take over the investigation
1312
01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:32,150
because he challenged the objectivity of
1313
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:38,569
the study his plea was ignored left
1314
01:03:38,569 --> 01:03:40,759
unchecked the project Chairman announced
1315
01:03:40,759 --> 01:03:43,039
the conclusions to the anxiously waiting
1316
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:48,559
press dr. Condon stated that nothing has
1317
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,509
come from the study of UFOs that is
1318
01:03:50,509 --> 01:03:55,039
added to scientific knowledge it is not
1319
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:59,539
a fair an accurate a summary of the body
1320
01:03:59,539 --> 01:04:02,049
of the report which a summary should be
1321
01:04:02,049 --> 01:04:05,479
three decades later dr. Peter stork an
1322
01:04:05,479 --> 01:04:07,509
astrophysicist from Stanford University
1323
01:04:07,509 --> 01:04:10,009
takes a close look at some of the case
1324
01:04:10,009 --> 01:04:11,839
studies never mentioned in Condon
1325
01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:14,749
summary the Condon report is really a
1326
01:04:14,749 --> 01:04:16,999
complex document if you're looking for
1327
01:04:16,999 --> 01:04:19,009
what they thought a wild-goose chases
1328
01:04:19,009 --> 01:04:21,380
you'll find those if you're looking to
1329
01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:23,180
see whether there are any intriguing
1330
01:04:23,180 --> 01:04:26,089
cases that were really challenges to the
1331
01:04:26,089 --> 01:04:28,219
staff you'll find them and if you want
1332
01:04:28,219 --> 01:04:29,989
to see whether the staff thought
1333
01:04:29,989 --> 01:04:31,849
anything was what they call quotes a
1334
01:04:31,849 --> 01:04:35,059
real UFO you'll find that - there are
1335
01:04:35,059 --> 01:04:37,519
two radio visual cases analyzed by
1336
01:04:37,519 --> 01:04:40,880
McDonald and Thayer in conclusion
1337
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,890
although conventional or natural
1338
01:04:42,890 --> 01:04:44,960
explanations certainly cannot be ruled
1339
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,900
out the probability of such seems low in
1340
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:49,999
this case and the probability that at
1341
01:04:49,999 --> 01:04:52,430
least one genuine UFO was involved
1342
01:04:52,430 --> 01:04:56,869
appears to be fairly high another case
1343
01:04:56,869 --> 01:04:59,809
summary was that this must remain as one
1344
01:04:59,809 --> 01:05:01,880
of the most puzzling radar cases on
1345
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,549
record and no conclusion is possible at
1346
01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:08,660
this time and there are two photographic
1347
01:05:08,660 --> 01:05:10,999
cases analyzed by William Hartmann who
1348
01:05:10,999 --> 01:05:14,269
he thought the possible UFOs this is one
1349
01:05:14,269 --> 01:05:16,430
of the few UFO reports in which all
1350
01:05:16,430 --> 01:05:19,059
factors investigated geometric
1351
01:05:19,059 --> 01:05:21,710
psychological and physical appear to be
1352
01:05:21,710 --> 01:05:23,869
consistent with the assertion that an
1353
01:05:23,869 --> 01:05:26,420
extraordinary flying object silvery
1354
01:05:26,420 --> 01:05:29,869
metallic disc shaped tens of meters in
1355
01:05:29,869 --> 01:05:32,259
diameter and evidently art of
1356
01:05:32,259 --> 01:05:36,069
flew within sight of two witnesses but
1357
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:37,660
they do not feature at all in condoms
1358
01:05:37,660 --> 01:05:41,049
summary part the most people read the
1359
01:05:41,049 --> 01:05:43,990
part of the press refer to were the few
1360
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:47,039
pages of conclude of recommendations and
1361
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,869
about one chapter a short chapter of
1362
01:05:49,869 --> 01:05:51,730
summary that were written entirely by
1363
01:05:51,730 --> 01:05:53,220
condom
1364
01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:55,960
well the panel of scientists conducted
1365
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,269
an objective investigation as requested
1366
01:05:58,269 --> 01:06:00,670
by Congress the project leader appeared
1367
01:06:00,670 --> 01:06:02,859
to have ignored the data and asserted
1368
01:06:02,859 --> 01:06:04,450
that there was nothing to the UFO
1369
01:06:04,450 --> 01:06:07,019
phenomena
1370
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on December 18th 1969 the new york times
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01:06:11,279 --> 01:06:14,069
quoted dr. Condon saying it was a bunch
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01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:16,170
of damn nonsense and that he was sorry
1373
01:06:16,170 --> 01:06:17,759
that he ever got involved with such
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01:06:17,759 --> 01:06:21,900
foolishness Condon's thirty-year-old
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01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:24,059
conclusions are still being used today
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01:06:24,059 --> 01:06:26,309
as a benchmark to prevent further
1377
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:30,469
official scientific investigation
1378
01:06:36,890 --> 01:06:40,200
one of the problems with so-called UFO
1379
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,210
research by debunkers is they ask the
1380
01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:44,130
wrong question their question is what
1381
01:06:44,130 --> 01:06:46,590
are UFOs really what they're saying is
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01:06:46,590 --> 01:06:48,990
are all UFOs alien spacecraft need
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01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:51,150
answers of courses no the proper
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01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:54,150
question is are any it appears that many
1385
01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:56,160
people in power are being kept out of
1386
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,530
the loop regarding the UFO phenomenon
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01:06:58,530 --> 01:07:01,200
at the same time covert operations being
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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,250
trucked in by the military-industrial
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01:07:02,250 --> 01:07:04,830
complex team do have escaped government
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01:07:04,830 --> 01:07:07,190
supervision
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01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:11,780
in the council's of government we must
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01:07:11,780 --> 01:07:14,180
guard against the acquisition of
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01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:16,369
unwarranted influence whether sought or
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01:07:16,369 --> 01:07:18,859
unsought by the military-industrial
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01:07:18,859 --> 01:07:22,369
complex in his farewell address to the
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01:07:22,369 --> 01:07:22,760
nation
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01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,560
President Eisenhower cautioned the
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public about the relationship between
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01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:28,580
the US military and the industrial
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01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:30,890
sector which supplies the military with
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01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:33,650
weaponry and equipment Eisenhower felt
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01:07:33,650 --> 01:07:35,480
that if gone unchecked the
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01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,730
military-industrial complex would become
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01:07:37,730 --> 01:07:40,520
too powerful the potential for the
1405
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,560
disastrous rise of misplaced power
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01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,670
exists and will persist we must never
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01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:48,109
let the weight of this combination
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01:07:48,109 --> 01:07:50,060
endanger our liberties or democratic
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01:07:50,060 --> 01:07:53,900
processes but I think he was telling us
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01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:56,030
the military-industrial complex will
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01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:59,480
stick you in the back if you are not
1412
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,660
totally vigilant and I think he felt
1413
01:08:02,660 --> 01:08:04,490
like he had not been vigilant I think he
1414
01:08:04,490 --> 01:08:06,640
felt like he trusted too many people
1415
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,020
Brigadier General Stephen lovekins
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01:08:09,020 --> 01:08:11,150
served under President Eisenhower in the
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01:08:11,150 --> 01:08:15,260
White House Army signalling agency he
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01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:17,420
recalls Eisenhower's concern with the
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01:08:17,420 --> 01:08:21,229
military-industrial complex he realized
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01:08:21,229 --> 01:08:24,109
that he was losing control he realized
1421
01:08:24,109 --> 01:08:26,979
that this this the phenomenon of
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01:08:26,979 --> 01:08:30,469
whatever it was that that we were faced
1423
01:08:30,469 --> 01:08:33,319
with was not going to be in the best
1424
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,930
hands and that that those were them as
1425
01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:38,080
far as I can remember that was the
1426
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,299
expression that was used it's not going
1427
01:08:41,299 --> 01:08:44,500
to be in the best hands
1428
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,620
almost as great as the mystery
1429
01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:51,988
surrounding the origin of UFOs is the
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01:08:51,988 --> 01:08:54,210
wall of denial encountered even by the
1431
01:08:54,210 --> 01:09:00,000
most powerful citizens in the land in
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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,029
October of 1969 President Jimmy Carter
1433
01:09:03,029 --> 01:09:05,009
who was then governor of Georgia had a
1434
01:09:05,009 --> 01:09:07,920
UFO sighting he filed a report with the
1435
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,719
National investigations committee on
1436
01:09:09,719 --> 01:09:13,020
aerial phenomena in the report he
1437
01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:14,448
described a sharply outlined
1438
01:09:14,448 --> 01:09:17,069
self-luminous object about the size of
1439
01:09:17,069 --> 01:09:21,899
the moon it maneuvered silently in front
1440
01:09:21,899 --> 01:09:25,948
of ten witnesses at a recent book tour
1441
01:09:25,948 --> 01:09:28,080
we asked President Jimmy Carter about
1442
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:40,620
his sighting during Jimmy Carter's
1443
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:42,540
presidential campaign he promised to
1444
01:09:42,540 --> 01:09:44,339
make public what the government knew
1445
01:09:44,339 --> 01:09:49,290
about UFOs in an effort to fulfill this
1446
01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:51,330
promise President Carter's scientific
1447
01:09:51,330 --> 01:09:53,460
adviser Frank press wrote a letter
1448
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:55,380
requesting that NASA lead the
1449
01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:59,690
investigations into the UFO phenomena
1450
01:10:02,830 --> 01:10:05,320
when news of this pending investigation
1451
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,960
reached airforce Colonel Charles Sen he
1452
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,490
wrote NASA in closing he stated I
1453
01:10:12,490 --> 01:10:15,010
sincerely hope you are successful in
1454
01:10:15,010 --> 01:10:16,780
preventing a reopening of UFO
1455
01:10:16,780 --> 01:10:21,940
investigations whatever activity is
1456
01:10:21,940 --> 01:10:24,210
going on to the extent that it is a
1457
01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:26,800
clandestine group at cause a government
1458
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:32,050
group a cause a private group it is
1459
01:10:32,050 --> 01:10:36,340
without any type as far as I can tell of
1460
01:10:36,340 --> 01:10:39,670
high-level government oversight and that
1461
01:10:39,670 --> 01:10:44,140
is a great concern in December of 1977
1462
01:10:44,140 --> 01:10:46,480
NASA officially declined President
1463
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,790
Carter's request proposing that it take
1464
01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:50,710
no steps to establish a research
1465
01:10:50,710 --> 01:10:54,000
activity in this area
1466
01:10:56,180 --> 01:10:58,070
did you ask when you and president yes
1467
01:10:58,070 --> 01:11:00,020
but there's a lot of different answers
1468
01:11:00,020 --> 01:11:04,270
and nobody knows has people exactly
1469
01:11:09,070 --> 01:11:11,510
the American Broadcasting Company and
1470
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:13,190
affiliated stations prevent headline
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01:11:13,190 --> 01:11:16,280
editions with Taylor grant the 590 Tomic
1472
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,139
Bomb Group headquarters at Rockwell New
1473
01:11:18,139 --> 01:11:20,690
Mexico reports that it has received one
1474
01:11:20,690 --> 01:11:22,519
of the discs which landed on a ranch
1475
01:11:22,519 --> 01:11:24,590
outside Roswell Colonel William
1476
01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:26,119
Blanchard of the Roswell Air Base
1477
01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:28,190
refuses to give details of what the
1478
01:11:28,190 --> 01:11:30,710
flying disc looked like New Mexico
1479
01:11:30,710 --> 01:11:33,079
congressman Steven Schiff was pressed by
1480
01:11:33,079 --> 01:11:35,179
his constituents into making inquiries
1481
01:11:35,179 --> 01:11:37,820
regarding the Roswell incident I think a
1482
01:11:37,820 --> 01:11:38,840
number of people getting their
1483
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,659
information from news stories in in not
1484
01:11:41,659 --> 01:11:44,059
in all cases but in many cases are not
1485
01:11:44,059 --> 01:11:47,510
getting all of the information in a 1997
1486
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:49,940
radio interview he recalls what happened
1487
01:11:49,940 --> 01:11:51,380
when he made inquiries with the
1488
01:11:51,380 --> 01:11:53,480
Department of Defense the first response
1489
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:55,940
I got was a bit of a terse response from
1490
01:11:55,940 --> 01:11:58,969
a colonel in the Air Force the letter
1491
01:11:58,969 --> 01:12:01,909
just said we've referred your request
1492
01:12:01,909 --> 01:12:03,380
for information of the National Archives
1493
01:12:03,380 --> 01:12:06,499
with really no further explanation and I
1494
01:12:06,499 --> 01:12:09,579
found that unusual at the very least
1495
01:12:09,579 --> 01:12:11,780
after a second attempt with the
1496
01:12:11,780 --> 01:12:13,670
Department of Defense congressman Schiff
1497
01:12:13,670 --> 01:12:15,349
was again referred to the National
1498
01:12:15,349 --> 01:12:18,829
Archives and I got a response from them
1499
01:12:18,829 --> 01:12:20,989
that said we have no information about
1500
01:12:20,989 --> 01:12:23,389
the Roswell incident and further they
1501
01:12:23,389 --> 01:12:25,400
added an note that said we've received a
1502
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,289
great number of requests for information
1503
01:12:27,289 --> 01:12:29,179
I thought to myself well I'm not
1504
01:12:29,179 --> 01:12:30,380
surprised I mean if the Defense
1505
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:32,090
Department is sending everybody the
1506
01:12:32,090 --> 01:12:34,489
National Archives that they'd be getting
1507
01:12:34,489 --> 01:12:36,980
a lot of requests and frankly I felt
1508
01:12:36,980 --> 01:12:38,570
this was a runaround in other words in
1509
01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:42,769
my view the Defense Department sent me
1510
01:12:42,769 --> 01:12:44,900
to another agency on my request
1511
01:12:44,900 --> 01:12:46,820
knowing that agency would not have any
1512
01:12:46,820 --> 01:12:48,800
information
1513
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,300
evidently former director of the FBI
1514
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:54,420
j.edgar hoover was also denied access as
1515
01:12:54,420 --> 01:12:57,060
he stated in his own handwriting in July
1516
01:12:57,060 --> 01:13:01,170
of 1947 we must insist upon full access
1517
01:13:01,170 --> 01:13:04,560
to disks recovered Hoover continued the
1518
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,270
army grabbed it and wouldn't let the
1519
01:13:06,270 --> 01:13:10,040
Bureau have it for cursory examination
1520
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:17,580
we will stand against the forces the
1521
01:13:17,580 --> 01:13:19,470
more recent inquiry was apparently made
1522
01:13:19,470 --> 01:13:22,020
by President Bill Clinton let us stand
1523
01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:23,580
up and talk against it
1524
01:13:23,580 --> 01:13:25,320
he asked associate attorney general
1525
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,400
webster hubbell to investigate web
1526
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:30,960
Hubbell and Bill Clinton were old
1527
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,590
friends in his book friends in high
1528
01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:37,110
places Hubbell recalls a special favor
1529
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:38,940
that President Clinton made after he
1530
01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:45,450
first came into office Webb he said if I
1531
01:13:45,450 --> 01:13:47,370
put you over at justice I want you to
1532
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:48,600
find out the answers to two questions
1533
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,470
for me one who killed JFK and two are
1534
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:56,100
there UFOs he was dead serious Hubbell
1535
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:57,840
had looked into both but wasn't
1536
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,520
satisfied with the answers he was
1537
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,510
getting when we asked mr. Hubbell about
1538
01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:08,430
this incident he replied recall anything
1539
01:14:08,430 --> 01:14:21,090
further at this point we contacted
1540
01:14:21,090 --> 01:14:23,160
President Bill Clinton and received this
1541
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,430
letter it is a response from NASA
1542
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:28,140
stating that no government agency is
1543
01:14:28,140 --> 01:14:30,030
currently responsible for investigating
1544
01:14:30,030 --> 01:14:32,820
UFOs because there is no factual
1545
01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:35,550
evidence that alien life exists on other
1546
01:14:35,550 --> 01:14:39,000
planets or that UFOs are related to
1547
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,880
aliens see this is what you'll be up
1548
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,980
against who you gonna see the moment you
1549
01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:45,810
go see somebody so we can't tell you
1550
01:14:45,810 --> 01:14:46,500
it's top secret
1551
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:48,480
what are you gonna do you have to walk
1552
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:50,520
out so you see how the government
1553
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,000
operates how they can you say you should
1554
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,290
go there an answer who you going to go
1555
01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:58,080
to even as what the experience I have
1556
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,460
been on top of the government all the
1557
01:14:59,460 --> 01:15:03,680
years I couldn't tell you to go see
1558
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,790
Paris 1999 the most important UFO study
1559
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:15,610
in recent decades is made public this
1560
01:15:15,610 --> 01:15:17,620
was presented to the President and Prime
1561
01:15:17,620 --> 01:15:20,080
Minister of France urging diplomatic
1562
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,450
action with the US through the European
1563
01:15:22,450 --> 01:15:25,480
Union the report was compiled by the
1564
01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:27,850
committee group which investigated over
1565
01:15:27,850 --> 01:15:31,270
500 UFO cases from around the world this
1566
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:33,910
report which came from a high-level
1567
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:35,860
group of French military officers
1568
01:15:35,860 --> 01:15:38,170
primarily as well as some scientists is
1569
01:15:38,170 --> 01:15:42,940
the most strongly worded Pro UFO
1570
01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:44,980
document ever written in any language
1571
01:15:44,980 --> 01:15:47,650
that has been made public by a group of
1572
01:15:47,650 --> 01:15:51,700
this stature the kinetic group consists
1573
01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:53,530
of generals and admirals of the French
1574
01:15:53,530 --> 01:15:56,380
military as well as top-level scientists
1575
01:15:56,380 --> 01:15:59,440
such as Andre LeBeau director of CNES
1576
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:02,739
the French equivalent of NASA general
1577
01:16:02,739 --> 01:16:03,940
Bernard Norland
1578
01:16:03,940 --> 01:16:05,800
former commander French tactical Air
1579
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,370
Force and jean-claude Reeb the former
1580
01:16:09,370 --> 01:16:11,260
director of the observatory at Lyon
1581
01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:14,050
France the title of the report is UFOs
1582
01:16:14,050 --> 01:16:18,130
and defense what must we prepare for now
1583
01:16:18,130 --> 01:16:20,200
it's 92 pages of text
1584
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,719
after that title the committee group
1585
01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:25,030
received data collected by numerous
1586
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:27,820
scientific agencies much of its content
1587
01:16:27,820 --> 01:16:29,980
was based on reports from military and
1588
01:16:29,980 --> 01:16:32,680
civilian pilots this official document
1589
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,960
was an internal military investigation
1590
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,060
that was never intended for the general
1591
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:41,230
public the report also contains a
1592
01:16:41,230 --> 01:16:44,100
selection of photographs
1593
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:46,670
these photos were subjected to
1594
01:16:46,670 --> 01:16:48,710
scientific analysis in an effort to
1595
01:16:48,710 --> 01:16:51,730
determine authenticity
1596
01:17:04,110 --> 01:17:06,940
Kumada also examined physical evidence
1597
01:17:06,940 --> 01:17:09,520
such as plant and soil samples taken
1598
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,030
from alleged landing sites one such case
1599
01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:16,390
occurred on January 8th 1981 in southern
1600
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:19,900
France there was only a single witness
1601
01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:23,370
to that event he was working in his
1602
01:17:23,370 --> 01:17:28,150
small farm late one afternoon he heard a
1603
01:17:28,150 --> 01:17:30,640
whistling sound he looked up and just
1604
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,920
above the trees was this strange craft
1605
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,010
it descended and landed 30 feet away in
1606
01:17:36,010 --> 01:17:42,520
his garden the former city suppose it
1607
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,150
was yet notice wrote he told his wife
1608
01:17:46,150 --> 01:17:48,040
about an evening and she thought he was
1609
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:53,290
joking they went back in the morning to
1610
01:17:53,290 --> 01:17:55,270
look up the area and they found traces
1611
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:58,560
on the ground say ccleaner Rhonda
1612
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,550
commenting on comments have you been a
1613
01:18:00,550 --> 01:18:02,860
delayed by Mile Island Cooper buku buku
1614
01:18:02,860 --> 01:18:07,930
this one they see scientists came out in
1615
01:18:07,930 --> 01:18:12,180
a week or two and they took further
1616
01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:15,700
samples of soils they also took samples
1617
01:18:15,700 --> 01:18:18,790
of plants and the analysis of the soil
1618
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:20,410
and plants was very interesting there
1619
01:18:20,410 --> 01:18:22,620
carried out quite professionally and
1620
01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:25,450
there was evidence of compression of the
1621
01:18:25,450 --> 01:18:28,420
soil and there was a clear evidence of
1622
01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:31,360
damage to the plants the kind of injury
1623
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,360
that could happen because of heating due
1624
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,150
to microwaves for instance so there was
1625
01:18:37,150 --> 01:18:38,950
good physical evidence in that case and
1626
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:40,600
moreover there were two kinds of
1627
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,230
physical evidence injury damage to soil
1628
01:18:43,230 --> 01:18:45,100
damage to plants
1629
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,470
despite the physical evidence the small
1630
01:18:47,470 --> 01:18:49,960
town of TransAm province labeled the
1631
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,110
farmer as a flying saucer fanatic Papa
1632
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:55,150
Dirac Institute has a Cooper voluntary
1633
01:18:55,150 --> 01:19:02,770
City he suppose a very but a number of
1634
01:19:02,770 --> 01:19:05,140
cases analyzed by the comater group came
1635
01:19:05,140 --> 01:19:07,750
from military pilots involved in UFO
1636
01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:10,350
incidents
1637
01:19:10,849 --> 01:19:13,190
one of the most dramatic cases occurred
1638
01:19:13,190 --> 01:19:16,849
in September of 1976 when a phantom f-4
1639
01:19:16,849 --> 01:19:19,130
jet flown by a pilot from the Iranian
1640
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Royal Air Force attempted to fire a
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01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:26,480
missile at a UFO in the same instant the
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01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:28,969
pilots fire Control Council and radio
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01:19:28,969 --> 01:19:34,940
went dead at this point a smaller craft
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01:19:34,940 --> 01:19:37,489
emerged from the main UFO and circled
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01:19:37,489 --> 01:19:42,739
around the jet the pilot then took
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01:19:42,739 --> 01:19:45,050
evasive action and power to his controls
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01:19:45,050 --> 01:19:49,270
returned he escaped unharmed
1648
01:19:49,599 --> 01:19:53,320
in this report they say in effect UFOs
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01:19:53,320 --> 01:20:01,440
are real ergo the extra-terrestrial
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01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:04,060
hypothesis may in some cases be the best
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01:20:04,060 --> 01:20:07,810
or only real answer and cannot be
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01:20:07,810 --> 01:20:10,199
ignored
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01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:15,010
they are technological they do things
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01:20:15,010 --> 01:20:23,020
that we probably can't do and all that
1655
01:20:23,020 --> 01:20:26,440
being said this obviously constitutes a
1656
01:20:26,440 --> 01:20:30,250
major concern for global defence and
1657
01:20:30,250 --> 01:20:32,889
security when the report was completed
1658
01:20:32,889 --> 01:20:34,780
it was given to a number of leading
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01:20:34,780 --> 01:20:37,000
French journalists one of these was
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01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,230
Vinod - Nell the editor of VSD VSD is a
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01:20:41,230 --> 01:20:44,500
French weekly magazine like time-life we
1662
01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:48,219
are a general press publication it's not
1663
01:20:48,219 --> 01:20:50,949
specialized in UFO sightings at all the
1664
01:20:50,949 --> 01:20:53,349
committee group allowed VSD to publish
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01:20:53,349 --> 01:20:55,030
the report provided it was not
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01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:58,119
manipulated in any way if the public was
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01:20:58,119 --> 01:21:00,940
aware of the committee report then the
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01:21:00,940 --> 01:21:02,739
committee report was not going to
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01:21:02,739 --> 01:21:06,010
disappear and any kind of official or
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01:21:06,010 --> 01:21:08,699
semi official a dark hole so to speak
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01:21:08,699 --> 01:21:11,530
then the committee report became a
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01:21:11,530 --> 01:21:14,290
public fact and its remains a public
1673
01:21:14,290 --> 01:21:18,130
fact to date the report has not been
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01:21:18,130 --> 01:21:20,079
officially published outside of France
1675
01:21:20,079 --> 01:21:24,130
and so far only one article published in
1676
01:21:24,130 --> 01:21:26,500
The Boston Globe has appeared in the US
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01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:28,780
press I applied a very high standard to
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01:21:28,780 --> 01:21:30,909
the story because of its controversial
1679
01:21:30,909 --> 01:21:31,690
nature
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01:21:31,690 --> 01:21:33,909
I was basically retelling what the
1681
01:21:33,909 --> 01:21:35,020
generals and the other people like
1682
01:21:35,020 --> 01:21:36,639
included in their report I looked at
1683
01:21:36,639 --> 01:21:38,230
government documents that dealt with the
1684
01:21:38,230 --> 01:21:40,360
issue of national security and UFOs
1685
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,369
which was what the generals were dealing
1686
01:21:42,369 --> 01:21:45,010
with in France despite her thoroughness
1687
01:21:45,010 --> 01:21:47,409
Leslie Kane encountered much resistance
1688
01:21:47,409 --> 01:21:50,020
in getting the story published I went to
1689
01:21:50,020 --> 01:21:51,880
many papers many of whom I published
1690
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,590
with in the past people laughed hung up
1691
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:55,300
the phone the subject matter is
1692
01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:57,460
ridiculed in the media and so even
1693
01:21:57,460 --> 01:21:58,869
though I was dealing with facts in this
1694
01:21:58,869 --> 01:22:02,020
article and high level journalism they
1695
01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:03,400
weren't interested because of the sub
1696
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,200
matter this was very really really
1697
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:06,790
frustrating because I thought this was
1698
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:08,920
an extremely important story and I know
1699
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,170
that it was newsworthy most Americans
1700
01:22:11,170 --> 01:22:13,620
have never heard of it the group hasn't
1701
01:22:13,620 --> 01:22:15,910
published an English translation that
1702
01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:19,840
anybody can get ahold of and they seem
1703
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,620
to be on the trail of saying hey you
1704
01:22:23,620 --> 01:22:25,600
Americans you're holding back technology
1705
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,220
that you've learned from flying saucers
1706
01:22:27,220 --> 01:22:29,620
from your allies so that's a message to
1707
01:22:29,620 --> 01:22:31,720
the Pentagon not to the public they know
1708
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,910
the Pentagon knows through people so
1709
01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:35,680
it's an important report for what it
1710
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,700
says no other report with names with
1711
01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:42,040
people with excellent cases this is not
1712
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,220
anonymous reporting now has come close
1713
01:22:45,220 --> 01:22:47,710
to taking a strongest stand that some
1714
01:22:47,710 --> 01:22:49,990
UFOs are extraterrestrial spacecraft I
1715
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:52,800
think it's time to open the books on
1716
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,060
questions that have remained in the dark
1717
01:22:55,060 --> 01:22:57,580
and the question of government
1718
01:22:57,580 --> 01:23:02,110
investigations of UFOs it's time to find
1719
01:23:02,110 --> 01:23:04,660
out what what the truth really is that's
1720
01:23:04,660 --> 01:23:07,180
out there we ought to do it really
1721
01:23:07,180 --> 01:23:09,430
because it's right we ought to do it
1722
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:11,440
because the American people quite
1723
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:14,020
frankly can handle the truth and we
1724
01:23:14,020 --> 01:23:17,910
ought to do it because it's the law
1725
01:23:25,090 --> 01:23:28,219
it was it was shaped like a saucer I
1726
01:23:28,219 --> 01:23:30,590
hate to use those trite terms but that's
1727
01:23:30,590 --> 01:23:32,539
what it was shaped like I looked up and
1728
01:23:32,539 --> 01:23:35,679
all of a sudden there was this you know
1729
01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:39,650
gotta say it lying saucer you know kind
1730
01:23:39,650 --> 01:23:42,500
of looking like it was not particularly
1731
01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:45,440
far above us if you look at that tree
1732
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,929
limb it seems to me that when it floated
1733
01:23:47,929 --> 01:23:50,719
across the road it was just about that
1734
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:52,520
far away you saw that it was actually
1735
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:57,800
moving but that was nothing we we had at
1736
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,710
the time could could fit the description
1737
01:24:00,710 --> 01:24:07,599
size shape or performance of this crap
1738
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,840
often in reliable UFO cases the official
1739
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,850
explanation is more unbelievable than
1740
01:24:19,850 --> 01:24:23,240
the event itself I had the evidence that
1741
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:48,890
the crash did happen here people say
1742
01:24:48,890 --> 01:24:51,500
Mike now you saw b-2 bomber my response
1743
01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:53,300
was we could land all 40 of our b-2
1744
01:24:53,300 --> 01:25:00,050
bombers on the wing of that craft what
1745
01:25:00,050 --> 01:25:03,970
we saw out there was definitely
1746
01:25:03,970 --> 01:25:13,280
unidentifiable there is a serious
1747
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,260
possibility that we are being visited
1748
01:25:15,260 --> 01:25:18,650
and have been visited for many years by
1749
01:25:18,650 --> 01:25:21,880
people from outer space from other
1750
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,490
civilizations that it behooves us in
1751
01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:27,680
case some of these people in the future
1752
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,770
or now should turn hostile to find out
1753
01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:33,050
who they are where they come from and
1754
01:25:33,050 --> 01:25:35,630
what they want well if the cancer treat
1755
01:25:35,630 --> 01:25:39,560
believed yes there have been et
1756
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,400
visitation there have been crashed craft
1757
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,430
there have been material and bodies
1758
01:25:46,430 --> 01:25:50,180
recovered and there is some group of
1759
01:25:50,180 --> 01:25:55,100
people somewhere that may or may not be
1760
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:57,350
associated with government at this point
1761
01:25:57,350 --> 01:26:00,410
but certainly were at one time that had
1762
01:26:00,410 --> 01:26:02,870
this knowledge the thing you have to
1763
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:04,520
remember is that absolute power corrupts
1764
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,780
absolutely
1765
01:26:05,780 --> 01:26:07,370
when you've got the knowledge and the
1766
01:26:07,370 --> 01:26:09,260
budget nobody looking over your shoulder
1767
01:26:09,260 --> 01:26:11,510
it's a great temptation to think that
1768
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:13,460
you know best like with the public they
1769
01:26:13,460 --> 01:26:14,840
don't know enough they have a sensible
1770
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:15,469
opinion
1771
01:26:15,469 --> 01:26:19,760
that's unfortunate yakking away here
1772
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:24,050
Mitchell Eric the eponymous Lou Boyle
1773
01:26:24,050 --> 01:26:25,940
provisions for an Iranian national
1774
01:26:25,940 --> 01:26:27,949
Tara's matter it as the stoic Audrina
1775
01:26:27,949 --> 01:26:30,290
who what she wanted every need you have
1776
01:26:30,290 --> 01:26:32,390
a year never show the preemie neat work
1777
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:34,670
toaster how many people bring a suit at
1778
01:26:34,670 --> 01:26:36,469
the inner planet anything but the caddy
1779
01:26:36,469 --> 01:26:38,750
delete ski deployed since the subject is
1780
01:26:38,750 --> 01:26:41,980
clearly of great interest Republic I
1781
01:26:41,980 --> 01:26:44,719
think that the senator community owes
1782
01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:47,300
its the public to really pay attention
1783
01:26:47,300 --> 01:26:51,219
to the subject and make a thorough
1784
01:26:51,219 --> 01:26:54,050
extensive and careful investigation and
1785
01:26:54,050 --> 01:26:56,840
then share with the public whatever they
1786
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,180
find a story this big there's no way it
1787
01:26:59,180 --> 01:27:00,949
can be kept secret from the public what
1788
01:27:00,949 --> 01:27:02,540
do you say to someone like that it says
1789
01:27:02,540 --> 01:27:04,790
that well somebody's kept a pretty
1790
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:11,690
cigarette for quite a while and if
1791
01:27:11,690 --> 01:27:14,030
structured craft of unknown origin are
1792
01:27:14,030 --> 01:27:16,580
penetrating our skies the people best
1793
01:27:16,580 --> 01:27:18,620
equipped to know are the military and we
1794
01:27:18,620 --> 01:27:19,550
will provide you with all the
1795
01:27:19,550 --> 01:27:22,489
information that you need numerous
1796
01:27:22,489 --> 01:27:24,290
military witnesses are prepared to
1797
01:27:24,290 --> 01:27:26,630
testify in great detail but need
1798
01:27:26,630 --> 01:27:28,719
immunity from their security oaths
1799
01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:31,160
Congress is currently being lobbied to
1800
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,989
provide a platform for such testimony
1801
01:27:37,810 --> 01:27:40,430
the discovery that we are being visited
1802
01:27:40,430 --> 01:27:43,310
by extraterrestrials would be one of the
1803
01:27:43,310 --> 01:27:45,830
greatest in human history such a
1804
01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:47,930
discovery would profoundly alter the
1805
01:27:47,930 --> 01:27:51,170
perception of ourselves and our place in
1806
01:27:51,170 --> 01:27:53,350
the universe
1807
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,280
next on Syfy crossing over with John
1808
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,969
Edward on the next all new sci-fi Friday
1809
01:28:04,969 --> 01:28:06,710
first its tremors
1810
01:28:06,710 --> 01:28:08,210
I got pressing business with this
1811
01:28:08,210 --> 01:28:10,190
creation of yours is wrong with you
1812
01:28:10,190 --> 01:28:10,760
people
1813
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:20,180
followed by Stargate sg-1 hosted by
1814
01:28:20,180 --> 01:28:26,140
Shannon sci-fi Channel original series
1815
01:28:26,140 --> 01:28:29,960
tremors Stargate sg-1 and scare tactics
1816
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,710
all new Friday starting at 8 by creating
1817
01:28:33,710 --> 01:28:36,290
this rift in the fabric of time I
1818
01:28:36,290 --> 01:28:38,780
allowed a darkness to enter the spider
1819
01:28:38,780 --> 01:28:43,219
freeze a new event the sci-fi pictures
1820
01:28:43,219 --> 01:28:46,400
original webs premieres Saturday at 9:00
1821
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,600
on Syfy
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