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Frank Drake devised 9 00:00:45,230 --> 00:00:47,840 the Drake Equation which calculates the 10 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,809 number of worlds with intelligent life 11 00:00:49,809 --> 00:00:52,430 capable of technologically communicating 12 00:00:52,430 --> 00:00:55,940 with us according to Drake's own 13 00:00:55,940 --> 00:00:57,890 calculations there are 10,000 14 00:00:57,890 --> 00:01:00,020 communicative civilizations in the Milky 15 00:01:00,020 --> 00:01:04,369 Way galaxy for decades later the Drake 16 00:01:04,369 --> 00:01:06,470 Equation has been greatly expanded on by 17 00:01:06,470 --> 00:01:09,140 dr. Amir Excel best-selling author and 18 00:01:09,140 --> 00:01:11,180 associate professor of mathematics and 19 00:01:11,180 --> 00:01:13,009 statistics at Bentley College 20 00:01:13,009 --> 00:01:15,110 Massachusetts his latest book 21 00:01:15,110 --> 00:01:17,990 probability one deals with why there 22 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:19,970 must be intelligent life in the universe 23 00:01:19,970 --> 00:01:22,640 my calculation of probability one goes 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,490 far beyond what was explored with 25 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:28,220 Drake's equation Drake's equation refers 26 00:01:28,220 --> 00:01:31,070 only to our galaxy my calculation goes 27 00:01:31,070 --> 00:01:33,470 to the visible universe as a whole which 28 00:01:33,470 --> 00:01:35,630 has billions of galaxies and each 29 00:01:35,630 --> 00:01:39,189 containing billions of stars 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,980 so if you multiply all these numbers you 31 00:01:42,980 --> 00:01:45,380 get tremendous odds for the existence of 32 00:01:45,380 --> 00:01:51,980 life I think one of the main changes 33 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:53,870 that has taken place in recent years in 34 00:01:53,870 --> 00:01:55,490 astronomers views of whether or not 35 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:56,840 there might be other civilizations 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,540 elsewhere in the universe has to do with 37 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:01,760 the fact that we've discovered dozens of 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,130 other planetary systems around other 39 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:06,710 stars now in most cases the planets are 40 00:02:06,710 --> 00:02:08,570 giant planets like Jupiter not the kind 41 00:02:08,570 --> 00:02:10,699 that would Harbor life but where there 42 00:02:10,699 --> 00:02:12,350 are those kinds of planets are likely to 43 00:02:12,350 --> 00:02:13,910 be other planets too in those solar 44 00:02:13,910 --> 00:02:15,710 systems and so we're optimistic these 45 00:02:15,710 --> 00:02:18,790 days about life elsewhere 46 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,160 what's the nature of the universe we 47 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,440 live in what is our relationship to the 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,980 larger reality I looked up and all of a 49 00:02:29,980 --> 00:02:34,239 sudden there was you know gotta say it 50 00:02:34,239 --> 00:02:40,900 Flying Saucer didn't even make a sound 51 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:58,180 not even a silly-billy when it was this 52 00:02:58,180 --> 00:02:59,440 gone 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,489 he said very but that's all wrong 54 00:03:03,489 --> 00:03:08,829 I don't know what disappeared there's 55 00:03:08,829 --> 00:03:10,599 nothing to hide there's nothing to hide 56 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:12,870 it all 57 00:03:13,590 --> 00:03:15,690 that was a part of the United States Air 58 00:03:15,690 --> 00:03:19,550 Force cover-up for 18 years 59 00:03:20,510 --> 00:03:22,950 there's no way within the military 60 00:03:22,950 --> 00:03:24,870 within the government of keeping track 61 00:03:24,870 --> 00:03:30,180 of something that is classified even as 62 00:03:30,180 --> 00:03:32,129 with experience I had been on top of the 63 00:03:32,129 --> 00:03:34,080 government all the years I couldn't tell 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,569 you it'll go see this should be the 65 00:03:39,569 --> 00:03:42,080 subject of rigorous scientific 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,879 investigation and not the subject of 67 00:03:44,879 --> 00:04:18,238 rubbishing by tabloid newspapers I am 68 00:04:18,238 --> 00:04:20,970 here to discuss the so-called flying 69 00:04:20,970 --> 00:04:24,419 saucers air force interest in this 70 00:04:24,419 --> 00:04:27,510 problem has been due to our feeling of 71 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:32,490 an obligation to identify and analyze to 72 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:34,500 the best of our ability anything in the 73 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:37,200 air that may have the possibility of 74 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,400 threat or menace to the United States in 75 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,900 pursuit of this obligation since 1947 we 76 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:48,030 have received and analyzed between one 77 00:04:48,030 --> 00:04:50,700 and two thousand reports there have been 78 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:53,190 a certain percentage of this volume of 79 00:04:53,190 --> 00:04:56,460 reports that have been made by credible 80 00:04:56,460 --> 00:04:59,910 observers of relatively incredible 81 00:04:59,910 --> 00:05:04,020 things it is this group of observations 82 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:08,870 that we now are attempting to resolve 83 00:05:09,550 --> 00:05:13,729 for the last 50 years 95% of all UFO 84 00:05:13,729 --> 00:05:15,199 incidents have been explained in 85 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:17,750 down-to-earth conventional terms these 86 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:20,539 explanations include misidentified 87 00:05:20,539 --> 00:05:23,629 aircraft weather balloons atmospheric 88 00:05:23,629 --> 00:05:26,419 phenomenon light aberrations mass 89 00:05:26,419 --> 00:05:30,009 hallucinations hoaxes and swamp gas 90 00:05:30,009 --> 00:05:32,629 however these explanations cannot be 91 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:46,250 applied to the remaining 5% the 92 00:05:46,250 --> 00:05:48,620 cumulative evidence in these cases leads 93 00:05:48,620 --> 00:05:50,719 towards a possible conclusion that some 94 00:05:50,719 --> 00:06:05,810 UFOs are not of Earth origin in this 95 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:07,849 documentary we will present unexplained 96 00:06:07,849 --> 00:06:10,310 cases from around the world investigate 97 00:06:10,310 --> 00:06:13,009 50 years of official contradictions and 98 00:06:13,009 --> 00:06:15,710 denials and put forth possible reasons 99 00:06:15,710 --> 00:06:18,740 for secrecy we will examine scientific 100 00:06:18,740 --> 00:06:20,719 theories on interstellar travel and 101 00:06:20,719 --> 00:06:22,759 discuss the current movement for 102 00:06:22,759 --> 00:06:24,979 official disclosure on a subject that 103 00:06:24,979 --> 00:06:27,409 has primarily been considered unworthy 104 00:06:27,409 --> 00:06:31,270 of serious investigation 105 00:06:40,190 --> 00:06:42,650 the case of the Phoenix lights began on 106 00:06:42,650 --> 00:06:46,660 an evening in March of 1997 107 00:06:47,380 --> 00:06:50,420 late-breaking you're watching news 15 at 108 00:06:50,420 --> 00:06:54,200 10 dude these lights belong to visitors 109 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,360 from outer space hundreds of people 110 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,190 across the valley think it's a distinct 111 00:06:58,190 --> 00:07:00,500 possibility good evening I'm mark Vail 112 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:01,910 and I'm Robin Sewell thanks for joining 113 00:07:01,910 --> 00:07:03,800 us we start tonight with those strange 114 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,840 dots of light that were the talk of the 115 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:08,870 town as reported multiple UFOs were 116 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:10,780 sighted throughout the Phoenix basin 117 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:13,100 numerous eyewitnesses were already 118 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:15,740 outside looking up into the night sky to 119 00:07:15,740 --> 00:07:18,310 catch a glimpse of the hale-bopp comet 120 00:07:18,310 --> 00:07:20,720 Michael tanner is part of a team of 121 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,360 investigators who received roughly 800 122 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,670 reports from eyewitnesses regarding the 123 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:28,460 Phoenix incident between 8:15 and 8:45 124 00:07:28,460 --> 00:07:31,700 we had enormous craft at varying 125 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:33,440 altitudes come right through the center 126 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,050 of the valley of Phoenix led by a 127 00:07:36,050 --> 00:07:37,970 formation of orbs that were clearly 128 00:07:37,970 --> 00:07:41,090 visible through most of the state it 129 00:07:41,090 --> 00:07:43,010 passed right in front of us just about 130 00:07:43,010 --> 00:07:46,400 right above eyes length my estimate of 131 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,140 the size of the craft from the noses it 132 00:07:48,140 --> 00:07:50,420 passed us where we lived to the end of 133 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:52,040 the left wing that passed in front of us 134 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,520 was over 5,000 foot long it's coming 135 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,360 across the sky 136 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,700 and as this moving it's blocking and 137 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:00,169 unblocking the Stars 138 00:08:00,169 --> 00:08:02,690 there was actually a shape it was 139 00:08:02,690 --> 00:08:05,930 actually five lights that were a v1 in 140 00:08:05,930 --> 00:08:08,690 front two and two on each side and it 141 00:08:08,690 --> 00:08:10,820 was perfect it was a perfect triangle 142 00:08:10,820 --> 00:08:12,830 the object we saw if we opened up a 143 00:08:12,830 --> 00:08:14,990 newspaper you could not block out the 144 00:08:14,990 --> 00:08:17,150 object that we saw people say Mike no 145 00:08:17,150 --> 00:08:19,730 you saw a b-2 bomber my response was we 146 00:08:19,730 --> 00:08:21,680 could land all 40 of our b-2 bombers on 147 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,970 the wing of that crowd he says you're 148 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:25,640 not gonna believe what I saw and I said 149 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,520 yes I would I said that's all it's been 150 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,530 on the news all night long is this this 151 00:08:30,530 --> 00:08:32,659 craft explanations have been tossed 152 00:08:32,659 --> 00:08:33,950 about that they were flares that there 153 00:08:33,950 --> 00:08:36,110 were planes flying in formation the 154 00:08:36,110 --> 00:08:37,849 market Robin we check with the FAA today 155 00:08:37,849 --> 00:08:39,140 we checked with Sky Harbor we checked 156 00:08:39,140 --> 00:08:41,090 Luke Air Force Base and there's been no 157 00:08:41,090 --> 00:08:43,159 official explanation of those strange 158 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,330 bright flights last night 159 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,620 truck driver bill Greiner was driving 160 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:53,050 south on i-17 towards Luke Air Force 161 00:08:53,050 --> 00:08:56,650 Base he witnessed several fighter jets 162 00:08:56,650 --> 00:08:59,440 scrambled to intercept two UFOs directly 163 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,220 overhead 164 00:09:00,220 --> 00:09:03,460 I pulled my truck 165 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:07,210 alongside the West silos which faces 166 00:09:07,210 --> 00:09:09,940 Luke the Air Force's face was like right 167 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:15,750 there and I was here unloading 168 00:09:16,350 --> 00:09:19,540 everything was completely quiet it was 169 00:09:19,540 --> 00:09:26,500 like really eerie there was one right 170 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:28,300 over to base and then there was another 171 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:30,700 one out toward Wickenburg and these 172 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:32,260 things were just hovering they were huge 173 00:09:32,260 --> 00:09:35,050 orbs but it didn't it didn't make no 174 00:09:35,050 --> 00:09:36,820 sound or nothing it was just hovering 175 00:09:36,820 --> 00:09:40,020 right right there over the base 176 00:09:41,550 --> 00:09:45,610 all sudden I hear a lot of roaring 177 00:09:45,610 --> 00:09:47,920 coming out of a Luke Air Force Base in 178 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,600 here there's two fighters coming on they 179 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,070 had the afterburners on because every 180 00:09:51,070 --> 00:09:52,870 huge flames coming out the back of these 181 00:09:52,870 --> 00:10:00,370 things right around the back of me and 182 00:10:00,370 --> 00:10:07,300 shot right before those things then it 183 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:09,640 disappeared on them and it was gone 184 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,010 military says the lights over Arizona 185 00:10:12,010 --> 00:10:13,900 last night were flares but the people 186 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:15,640 who saw the lights last night say they 187 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,240 couldn't have been flares in central 188 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,950 Phoenix in what is known as the sunny 189 00:10:20,950 --> 00:10:23,260 slope area the lay family were coming 190 00:10:23,260 --> 00:10:25,240 home in the early evening to watch for 191 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,340 the hale-bopp coming when they witnessed 192 00:10:27,340 --> 00:10:29,920 a very large craft fly directly over 193 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:36,910 their house light the tip was right out 194 00:10:36,910 --> 00:10:38,920 in the street and the arm is going by 195 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,770 and the end of the arm was at least to 196 00:10:41,770 --> 00:10:43,660 that mountain over there it was six 197 00:10:43,660 --> 00:10:46,270 seven hundred feet away with these huge 198 00:10:46,270 --> 00:10:49,570 lights set inside of it and I look 199 00:10:49,570 --> 00:10:52,660 inside and it's like it's wavy when you 200 00:10:52,660 --> 00:10:54,220 when you look down the street on a hot 201 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:56,260 day in Phoenix above the streets like 202 00:10:56,260 --> 00:10:58,630 it's really wavy and you see everything 203 00:10:58,630 --> 00:11:00,730 kind of distorted that's what it looks 204 00:11:00,730 --> 00:11:03,100 like up inside that little the craft and 205 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:05,590 it just skimmed by didn't even make a 206 00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:08,860 sound not even a sound further 207 00:11:08,860 --> 00:11:10,930 eyewitness testimony came from Stacey 208 00:11:10,930 --> 00:11:13,090 Rhodes and her daughter Emily who both 209 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:16,060 saw a giant craft fly over their car it 210 00:11:16,060 --> 00:11:18,640 was a gunmetal black it wasn't shiny it 211 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,680 wasn't invisible it was more of a dull 212 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:25,420 bluish black color and they both just 213 00:11:25,420 --> 00:11:26,620 stayed there and looked at it for a 214 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:28,390 couple minutes and it was completely 215 00:11:28,390 --> 00:11:32,410 silent Mike Fortson spotted the same 216 00:11:32,410 --> 00:11:34,630 craft from his backyard in Chandler a 217 00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:37,300 suburb of Phoenix when you're looking to 218 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:39,580 the north towards Phoenix proper the the 219 00:11:39,580 --> 00:11:41,260 lights of the City of Phoenix and Tempe 220 00:11:41,260 --> 00:11:43,060 and Scottsdale and all these here will 221 00:11:43,060 --> 00:11:44,890 form a gray background and this was a 222 00:11:44,890 --> 00:11:46,450 black object coming through a grey 223 00:11:46,450 --> 00:11:47,980 background we had no problem with 224 00:11:47,980 --> 00:11:50,110 whoever seen this vehicle we knew it 225 00:11:50,110 --> 00:11:51,550 wasn't really ours because it was just 226 00:11:51,550 --> 00:11:54,040 too doggone big a matter of fact 227 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,020 profoundly massive is a better way to 228 00:11:56,020 --> 00:11:57,550 describe it we don't really have words 229 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:59,230 in our language to describe something 230 00:11:59,230 --> 00:12:02,250 that large it was huge 231 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:04,510 Councilwoman Frances Barwood was 232 00:12:04,510 --> 00:12:06,550 approached by a reporter who complained 233 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:08,350 about the lack of response from local 234 00:12:08,350 --> 00:12:10,780 government regarding the sightings what 235 00:12:10,780 --> 00:12:13,060 this reporter said was that they had 236 00:12:13,060 --> 00:12:14,500 gone to every level of government 237 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:16,750 including the City of Phoenix and nobody 238 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:19,900 would talk to them that this object went 239 00:12:19,900 --> 00:12:22,210 from north of Prescott who called it all 240 00:12:22,210 --> 00:12:24,460 the way down to Tucson and then was also 241 00:12:24,460 --> 00:12:27,640 seen in Wickenburg and nobody would give 242 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,170 them any answer they either told them 243 00:12:29,170 --> 00:12:30,850 that they were not going to talk about 244 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:34,810 it at all or that there was nothing that 245 00:12:34,810 --> 00:12:37,420 nothing happened responding to mounting 246 00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:39,280 pressure from his constituents governor 247 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,810 Fife Symington held a press conference 248 00:12:40,810 --> 00:12:44,500 oh I'm gonna order a full you know 249 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:46,510 investigation of this through DPS we're 250 00:12:46,510 --> 00:12:48,040 gonna make all the necessary inquiries 251 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,270 and we're gonna get to the bottom of our 252 00:12:49,270 --> 00:12:52,830 gonna find out if it was a UFO 253 00:12:53,490 --> 00:12:56,170 later that day governor Symington held 254 00:12:56,170 --> 00:12:58,390 an unscheduled live press conference to 255 00:12:58,390 --> 00:13:00,340 announce that they had discovered the 256 00:13:00,340 --> 00:13:04,660 source behind the Phoenix lights now 257 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:06,220 I'll ask officer Stein and his 258 00:13:06,220 --> 00:13:08,500 colleagues to escort the accused into 259 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:10,360 the room so that we may all look upon 260 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,060 the guilty party this just goes to show 261 00:13:13,060 --> 00:13:16,000 that you guys are entirely too serious 262 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,670 everybody pretty much laughed at it I 263 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:21,290 thought it was really disgusting 264 00:13:21,290 --> 00:13:23,420 he was just dismissing everything that 265 00:13:23,420 --> 00:13:26,290 these people had seen and said just like 266 00:13:26,290 --> 00:13:29,780 we're all Looney Tunes I just thought 267 00:13:29,780 --> 00:13:31,340 that was a really improper attitude for 268 00:13:31,340 --> 00:13:33,800 somebody in his position nobody in state 269 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,260 local federal military nobody wanted to 270 00:13:36,260 --> 00:13:38,660 talk about it they didn't want to 271 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:40,280 interview witnesses they said it didn't 272 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,770 happen they said it didn't concern them 273 00:13:42,770 --> 00:13:44,480 there was one Councilwoman Frances 274 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,580 Barwood she's the one that spoke up and 275 00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:49,160 said why don't we investigate and then 276 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,870 when it came time for her election she 277 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:53,150 lost and and the depressed the media 278 00:13:53,150 --> 00:13:54,650 everybody else was really trashing it 279 00:13:54,650 --> 00:13:58,280 bad why is everybody so afraid and the 280 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,620 only thing I can think of is one they're 281 00:14:00,620 --> 00:14:03,440 afraid of their careers which you know 282 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,850 comes to a point of what's more 283 00:14:04,850 --> 00:14:06,680 important your soul your job and I guess 284 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:09,110 to them is their job and the second 285 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:13,010 thing is the scoring factor the US 286 00:14:13,010 --> 00:14:14,960 military's involvement in the UFO 287 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,900 subject dates back to World War two it 288 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:19,700 began with the sighting by Air Force 289 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:21,740 pilots of mysterious luminous orbs 290 00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:24,380 called Foo Fighters which would pace 291 00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:26,780 aircraft during missions and died away 292 00:14:26,780 --> 00:14:28,550 they fly circles around anything you've 293 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:31,130 got that strange behavior includes the 294 00:14:31,130 --> 00:14:32,660 ability to both hover and move at 295 00:14:32,660 --> 00:14:34,580 extremely high velocity to make 296 00:14:34,580 --> 00:14:36,230 right-angled turns at high speed to go 297 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:38,240 straight up straight down all of this 298 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,800 typically without any noise without any 299 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,090 visible external engine without any 300 00:14:41,090 --> 00:14:44,180 wings without any tail we simply could 301 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:47,780 not do that back 50 years ago in the 302 00:14:47,780 --> 00:14:50,630 summer of 1947 numerous UFOs were 303 00:14:50,630 --> 00:14:52,640 spotted by local authorities airline 304 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,550 pilots and civilians worldwide by July 305 00:14:55,550 --> 00:14:57,320 these sightings made headlines and 306 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,500 newspapers all across the United States 307 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:02,120 culminating on the 8th of July with the 308 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,700 alleged recovery of a crashed disc on a 309 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:08,410 ranch near Roswell New Mexico 310 00:15:08,930 --> 00:15:12,050 the military were quick to respond 311 00:15:12,050 --> 00:15:14,730 they send agents out all over this area 312 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:17,100 here to try to get information on Raza 313 00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:19,410 and yet we stood back like fools and 314 00:15:19,410 --> 00:15:20,880 said that didn't exist whose water 315 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,990 balloon 50 years after the incident 316 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:27,720 colonel Philip J Corso formerly a member 317 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,120 of the National Security Council 318 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,620 revealed that the weather balloons over 319 00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:34,200 Roswell was a cover story for the crash 320 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,430 of an alien craft we had to cover to 321 00:15:38,430 --> 00:15:39,990 protect our own this lady because they 322 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:41,700 tempt us as cooks and destroy the 323 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:43,589 organization you had understand what was 324 00:15:43,589 --> 00:15:44,790 going on in the government and the 325 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:48,240 climate of opinion law so discretion 326 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,100 better part of Allan we just kept 327 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:53,070 ourselves only some certain people know 328 00:15:53,070 --> 00:15:55,589 about it hit the head bring the brain no 329 00:15:55,589 --> 00:15:58,230 paper trail although the official 330 00:15:58,230 --> 00:16:00,900 position claimed that UFOs didn't exist 331 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:03,089 this secret memorandum written by 332 00:16:03,089 --> 00:16:04,920 general Nathan twining suggests 333 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,670 otherwise 334 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:07,950 the consensus expressed by the air 335 00:16:07,950 --> 00:16:10,740 material command was that the phenomenon 336 00:16:10,740 --> 00:16:13,050 reported is something real and not 337 00:16:13,050 --> 00:16:17,339 visionary or fictitious the memo 338 00:16:17,339 --> 00:16:19,940 continues there are objects probably 339 00:16:19,940 --> 00:16:22,110 approximating the shape of a disc of 340 00:16:22,110 --> 00:16:24,720 such appreciable size as to appear to be 341 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,610 as large as a man-made aircraft 342 00:16:29,170 --> 00:16:31,899 in this chaotic climate and in an effort 343 00:16:31,899 --> 00:16:33,910 to reorganize the US military 344 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:35,949 President Truman passed the National 345 00:16:35,949 --> 00:16:38,619 Security Act this act built the 346 00:16:38,619 --> 00:16:40,600 framework for America's modern national 347 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,879 security structure among other things 348 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:45,069 the Act established the National 349 00:16:45,069 --> 00:16:49,629 Security Council and the CIA the 350 00:16:49,629 --> 00:16:51,879 National Security Act of 1947 allowed 351 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:53,259 for the creation of a state within a 352 00:16:53,259 --> 00:16:56,829 state author of UFOs and the national 353 00:16:56,829 --> 00:16:59,649 security state Richard Dolan asserts 354 00:16:59,649 --> 00:17:01,059 that the signing of the National 355 00:17:01,059 --> 00:17:03,339 Security Act created an intelligence 356 00:17:03,339 --> 00:17:05,740 infrastructure capable of maintaining a 357 00:17:05,740 --> 00:17:08,648 very high level of secrecy one with an 358 00:17:08,648 --> 00:17:10,809 enormous amount of power an enormous 359 00:17:10,809 --> 00:17:12,760 amount of wealth an enormous amount of 360 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,299 secrecy and latitude of action the level 361 00:17:16,299 --> 00:17:18,459 of secrecy imposed by the US government 362 00:17:18,459 --> 00:17:20,799 on the UFO issue is revealed in this 363 00:17:20,799 --> 00:17:23,559 top-secret memorandum it was written in 364 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:26,289 1950 by electronics engineer Wilbert 365 00:17:26,289 --> 00:17:28,690 Smith a high-ranking official in the 366 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:32,309 Canadian Department of transport 367 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,750 after a meeting with a top government 368 00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:37,390 scientist employed by the Pentagon Smith 369 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:40,360 was informed that flying saucers exists 370 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:43,300 and more significantly the matter is the 371 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,340 most highly classified subject in the 372 00:17:45,340 --> 00:17:47,230 United States government rating higher 373 00:17:47,230 --> 00:17:50,790 even than the h-bomb 374 00:17:53,970 --> 00:17:57,000 in my opinion I think they were worried 375 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,860 that they would panic the public if they 376 00:17:58,860 --> 00:18:00,750 knew that someone had vehicles that had 377 00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:02,970 this kind of performance way back right 378 00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:06,360 after World War two on a clear night in 379 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:09,059 February of 1951 lieutenant Graham 380 00:18:09,059 --> 00:18:11,100 Bethune sat at the controls of a US Navy 381 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:13,830 transport plane enroute from Iceland to 382 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:16,769 America the flight was routine until 383 00:18:16,769 --> 00:18:18,840 Bethune spotted a strange group of 384 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,120 lights below his aircraft and we were at 385 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,490 10,000 feet this was about 15 miles away 386 00:18:23,490 --> 00:18:25,950 it came up to us like that just about 387 00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:28,740 that fast and of course I disengaged the 388 00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:31,289 autopilot to put the nose over I thought 389 00:18:31,289 --> 00:18:32,940 we'd be able to go under this thing and 390 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:35,340 not collide with it and one idea that 391 00:18:35,340 --> 00:18:37,259 staring me in the face and you couldn't 392 00:18:37,259 --> 00:18:39,360 see anything out the cockpit we could 393 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:41,970 tell it was a monster about 300 feet in 394 00:18:41,970 --> 00:18:45,090 diameter as it drifted out to our right 395 00:18:45,090 --> 00:18:48,059 we could see the dome according to 396 00:18:48,059 --> 00:18:50,039 lieutenant Bethune the object remained 397 00:18:50,039 --> 00:18:52,200 in this position for about a minute it 398 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,629 then accelerated rapidly and disappeared 399 00:18:54,629 --> 00:18:57,350 above the horizon 400 00:18:59,850 --> 00:19:02,320 upon landing at an air base in Tiffin 401 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,149 London he was briefed and interrogated 402 00:19:04,149 --> 00:19:05,409 by several officers from nib 403 00:19:05,409 --> 00:19:07,480 intelligence at the conclusion he was 404 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,129 ordered never speak about this incident 405 00:19:09,129 --> 00:19:09,659 again 406 00:19:09,659 --> 00:19:12,549 you accept anything like that simply 407 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:14,440 because you're in the military and 408 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,659 that's your job is to defend the country 409 00:19:16,659 --> 00:19:19,289 and whatever they tell you to do you do 410 00:19:19,289 --> 00:19:21,940 the identity of the group responsible 411 00:19:21,940 --> 00:19:24,009 for imposing the secrecy around the UFO 412 00:19:24,009 --> 00:19:26,230 shoe was revealed to lieutenant Bethune 413 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:28,210 vii later in a conversation with an 414 00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:31,539 officer from Naval Intelligence and I 415 00:19:31,539 --> 00:19:33,700 asked him the question what happens to 416 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:36,429 this report where does it go he said it 417 00:19:36,429 --> 00:19:39,369 goes to Navy intelligence chief naval 418 00:19:39,369 --> 00:19:42,610 operation then it goes to a Joint 419 00:19:42,610 --> 00:19:44,769 Intelligence Committee now of course 420 00:19:44,769 --> 00:19:47,830 later on I learned that was ma je I see 421 00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:49,929 which is majority 82 Joint Intelligence 422 00:19:49,929 --> 00:19:52,149 no he said this is a small committee but 423 00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,649 this committee determined whether it 424 00:19:53,649 --> 00:19:55,509 would affect our national security that 425 00:19:55,509 --> 00:19:57,159 if it did it would probably never go 426 00:19:57,159 --> 00:19:59,700 anywhere else 427 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:08,990 one of the main arguments used to deny 428 00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:10,520 the possibility of interstellar travel 429 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,440 is the question of distance 430 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,749 the closest star Alpha Centauri is 4.2 431 00:20:20,749 --> 00:20:22,009 light-years away 432 00:20:22,009 --> 00:20:24,620 if astronauts traveled to this star at 433 00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:26,419 the speed they reach the moon it would 434 00:20:26,419 --> 00:20:30,799 take them roughly 100,000 years another 435 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:32,749 major obstacle in obtaining interstellar 436 00:20:32,749 --> 00:20:34,309 travel would be the amount of fuel 437 00:20:34,309 --> 00:20:36,860 required when you're driving a car the 438 00:20:36,860 --> 00:20:38,120 amount of propellant you have to carry 439 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:40,370 in your fuel tank is very small just a 440 00:20:40,370 --> 00:20:41,600 few percent of the weight of the car 441 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,370 when you're trying to carry enough 442 00:20:43,370 --> 00:20:45,019 propellant to take a rocket ship vast 443 00:20:45,019 --> 00:20:46,789 distances even in our solar system 444 00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:49,070 pretty soon you find yourself carrying a 445 00:20:49,070 --> 00:20:51,200 propellant just to propel the propellant 446 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,779 this problem skyrockets to infinity so 447 00:20:53,779 --> 00:20:56,029 we'd want to go to propulsive systems 448 00:20:56,029 --> 00:20:57,529 that have very very high exhaust 449 00:20:57,529 --> 00:20:59,330 velocities and with a chemical reaction 450 00:20:59,330 --> 00:21:01,639 essentially a barely an explosion in a 451 00:21:01,639 --> 00:21:03,830 chemical rocket you have a limit to that 452 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:06,440 and that limit is currently almost met 453 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,539 by the shuttle engines you can't go 454 00:21:08,539 --> 00:21:10,909 beyond it very well and so we have to go 455 00:21:10,909 --> 00:21:14,919 to some other kind of propulsive source 456 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:22,629 even if we could develop a radical form 457 00:21:22,629 --> 00:21:24,850 of propulsion capable of obtaining near 458 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:25,779 light speed 459 00:21:25,779 --> 00:21:28,480 Einstein's theory of relativity tells us 460 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,610 that we would encounter another enormous 461 00:21:30,610 --> 00:21:32,740 problem there's a law of relativity that 462 00:21:32,740 --> 00:21:34,779 says that the closer you try to 463 00:21:34,779 --> 00:21:37,210 accelerate something like a rocket to 464 00:21:37,210 --> 00:21:38,710 the speed of light the more massive it 465 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:40,779 becomes it so it becomes infinitely 466 00:21:40,779 --> 00:21:43,059 massive at the speed of light which 467 00:21:43,059 --> 00:21:46,480 makes it impossible to get there new way 468 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,700 of thinking about the universe physics 469 00:21:48,700 --> 00:21:51,009 professor Rhodes scholar and author of 470 00:21:51,009 --> 00:21:52,960 the national bestseller the elegant 471 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,360 universe dr. Brian Greene has been 472 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:56,889 researching relativity and quantum 473 00:21:56,889 --> 00:22:00,129 physics for several decades dr. Greene 474 00:22:00,129 --> 00:22:02,139 brings up another problem with traveling 475 00:22:02,139 --> 00:22:03,070 near the speed of light 476 00:22:03,070 --> 00:22:06,399 if astronauts one day go to the moon and 477 00:22:06,399 --> 00:22:08,529 beyond and ships that travel at a 478 00:22:08,529 --> 00:22:10,059 substantial fraction of the speed of 479 00:22:10,059 --> 00:22:12,299 light when they return to earth 480 00:22:12,299 --> 00:22:15,490 relativity really tells us they will be 481 00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:18,070 in for a shock because while they may 482 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:19,389 have thought a few months went by 483 00:22:19,389 --> 00:22:21,309 they'll get back to earth and they'll 484 00:22:21,309 --> 00:22:23,950 see that years and years hundreds 485 00:22:23,950 --> 00:22:26,049 perhaps thousands of years will have 486 00:22:26,049 --> 00:22:28,360 gone by this is not science fiction 487 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,210 this is science fact so the idea of 488 00:22:31,210 --> 00:22:33,370 traveling between sol between our 489 00:22:33,370 --> 00:22:35,110 systems in normal space I don't believe 490 00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:38,080 is possible we have to invoke jump gates 491 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,419 from Babylon 5 warp drives from Star 492 00:22:40,419 --> 00:22:43,750 Trek and of course in hundred years who 493 00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:46,649 knows what might develop 494 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:50,580 although at present the solution to 495 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:52,200 interstellar travel may sound like 496 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,390 science fiction a growing number of 497 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:56,490 scientists are exploring radical new 498 00:22:56,490 --> 00:22:58,710 theories that may circumvent these 499 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:03,570 obstacles we're beginning to discover in 500 00:23:03,570 --> 00:23:04,800 theoretical physics that maybe our 501 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,560 entire universe is just a subset of a 502 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,270 much greater universe a 503 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:10,860 multi-dimensional universe that's being 504 00:23:10,860 --> 00:23:12,720 investigated in modern superstring and M 505 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,000 brain theory in the context of those 506 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,650 theories there may be new possibilities 507 00:23:16,650 --> 00:23:18,510 are so to speak step outside of 508 00:23:18,510 --> 00:23:20,820 space-time move somewhere else and come 509 00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:23,070 back into our universe at some distant 510 00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:23,700 location 511 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:26,040 Einstein teaches us that the fabric of 512 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,680 space can respond to its environment it 513 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,980 can warp and curve and in fact the 514 00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:34,230 equations of general relativity allowed 515 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:37,370 the fabric of space to have severe bends 516 00:23:37,370 --> 00:23:41,820 so long as you distribute matter and 517 00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:43,980 energy in the appropriate way you can 518 00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:46,740 bend space fairly significantly so in 519 00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:48,840 principle it's possible that if you want 520 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,820 to go from one end of the universe to 521 00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:53,340 another you don't have to travel all 522 00:23:53,340 --> 00:23:56,220 along the fabric of space maybe you can 523 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:58,830 bend the fabric of space and then travel 524 00:23:58,830 --> 00:24:01,500 from here to here very short journey by 525 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:14,340 a shortcut or wormhole continuing 526 00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:15,990 research into the possibilities of 527 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:17,700 interstellar travel are currently being 528 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,530 conducted by NASA's breakthrough 529 00:24:19,530 --> 00:24:22,160 propulsion team headed by Marc Millis 530 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,390 what we're trying to do is break it down 531 00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:26,820 into the smaller steps to attack the 532 00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:28,590 critical make break issues of some of 533 00:24:28,590 --> 00:24:30,420 the things we need to find out can repel 534 00:24:30,420 --> 00:24:32,100 a vehicle with a propellant can't 535 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,350 conserve momentum in the process the 536 00:24:34,350 --> 00:24:36,240 issues Bassin like travel the cloudy 537 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,440 violence and things like that address 538 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,420 those and smaller steps to see if you 539 00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:41,250 conventionally lead that way today we 540 00:24:41,250 --> 00:24:45,210 have scientists working for NASA working 541 00:24:45,210 --> 00:24:47,250 for the US Air Force working for British 542 00:24:47,250 --> 00:24:49,950 Aerospace working for other firms and 543 00:24:49,950 --> 00:24:51,410 agencies that we don't even know about 544 00:24:51,410 --> 00:24:54,840 that are intent on discovering how to do 545 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,510 star travel they have already decided it 546 00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:59,100 can be done theoretic 547 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:01,650 now the question is okay what's the 548 00:25:01,650 --> 00:25:04,680 trick let's figure it out if you look 549 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,540 back fifty a hundred years - what 550 00:25:06,540 --> 00:25:08,820 Sciences we knew then and what we could 551 00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:10,970 do today 552 00:25:10,970 --> 00:25:12,960 who knows what we could do in the future 553 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,570 so I have an inherent optimism about 554 00:25:15,570 --> 00:25:17,850 progress and I think that what seems 555 00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:22,550 impossible today will possibly be 556 00:25:22,550 --> 00:25:25,170 possible tomorrow we're at that point of 557 00:25:25,170 --> 00:25:26,640 imagining these things asking these 558 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,540 technological questions clearly that 559 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:33,420 opens the door to at least the 560 00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:35,250 possibility that others have figured it 561 00:25:35,250 --> 00:25:37,610 out already 562 00:25:52,770 --> 00:25:56,070 in 1965 Gordon Cooper was the last 563 00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:57,900 American astronaut to go up into space 564 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:09,080 alone he orbited the planet 22 times 565 00:26:17,789 --> 00:26:21,269 I think if those don't you they know me 566 00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:24,239 I know that I've always spoken honestly 567 00:26:24,239 --> 00:26:26,429 and straightforward to you 568 00:26:26,429 --> 00:26:30,419 I can't do so today ten years earlier 569 00:26:30,419 --> 00:26:31,889 while stationed at Edwards Air Force 570 00:26:31,889 --> 00:26:32,580 Base 571 00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:34,320 Cooper witnessed an event that has yet 572 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,119 to be explained nearly 50 years later he 573 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,590 was supervising the filming of a 574 00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:43,109 precision landing facility for f-86 575 00:26:43,109 --> 00:26:45,739 fighter jets 576 00:26:48,580 --> 00:26:50,950 suddenly a saucer-like craft flew 577 00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:53,200 directly over the cameraman three 578 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,210 landing gear apparatus opened and the 579 00:26:55,210 --> 00:26:58,390 object landed on the dry lake bed they 580 00:26:58,390 --> 00:27:01,630 took all saucer shape a double index at 581 00:27:01,630 --> 00:27:04,330 Metallica and they went out cameras and 582 00:27:04,330 --> 00:27:07,990 moved on out toward him filming and he 583 00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:09,970 left it off put the gear back in the 584 00:27:09,970 --> 00:27:12,910 well and find out the very high rate is 585 00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:16,360 being disappeared Cooper had the film 586 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:20,000 footage of the strange craft developed 587 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,559 by the time it returned from processing 588 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,179 he had gone up through the ranks to 589 00:27:24,179 --> 00:27:25,260 report the incident 590 00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:29,220 anyway the colonel telling me do you 591 00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:31,049 know when the film arrived at my desk to 592 00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:33,030 put it in the carrier pouch there would 593 00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:35,070 be occurred there at my office by that 594 00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:38,130 time already and they'd arranged for him 595 00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:40,380 to fly in our base airplane back to 596 00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:47,070 Washington with he's found we didn't 597 00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:49,140 have a chance to run it I had a chance 598 00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:51,900 to hold it up to the wind and look at it 599 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,809 certainly good found after the developed 600 00:27:54,809 --> 00:27:57,270 film was sent by plane to Washington it 601 00:27:57,270 --> 00:27:59,940 was never seen or heard of again did you 602 00:27:59,940 --> 00:28:01,890 keep in touch with anybody discussed how 603 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,600 would I keep in touch with anybody about 604 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,160 it 605 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,809 there's no way within the military or 606 00:28:06,809 --> 00:28:08,309 within the government of keeping track 607 00:28:08,309 --> 00:28:10,950 or something that is classified unless 608 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:12,570 you were directly involved in it and I 609 00:28:12,570 --> 00:28:14,820 was not it will be ready I went into 610 00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:17,040 space to learn about the universe we 611 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,820 live in to get new insights to go beyond 612 00:28:20,820 --> 00:28:25,429 the boundaries of our known existence 613 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,220 Apollo 14 astronaut and sixth man on the 614 00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:31,500 moon edgar mitchell states in his book 615 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:33,809 the way of the explorer that he's never 616 00:28:33,809 --> 00:28:36,650 had first-hand experience with UFOs 617 00:28:36,650 --> 00:28:39,809 however he has met with credible 618 00:28:39,809 --> 00:28:42,030 professionals within two governments who 619 00:28:42,030 --> 00:28:43,980 have testified to their own first-hand 620 00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:46,860 experiences with close encounters during 621 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:49,169 their official duties the only people I 622 00:28:49,169 --> 00:28:51,210 know of that claim to have been in that 623 00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:54,179 position are former intelligence 624 00:28:54,179 --> 00:28:57,240 military and government people and some 625 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,780 contractor people whose official duties 626 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:04,410 in the early days were to investigate 627 00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:07,470 this and know about it those people are 628 00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:11,809 under were under at that time great 629 00:29:11,809 --> 00:29:14,520 restrictions and high security clearance 630 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,679 that prevented them from telling the 631 00:29:16,679 --> 00:29:19,110 general public about what we 632 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:20,760 photographed out there affected me for 633 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,790 the rest of my life in 1964 former US 634 00:29:23,790 --> 00:29:25,950 Air Force lieutenant Bob Jacobs was in 635 00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:29,040 the 1369 photo squadron at Vandenberg 636 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,650 Air Force Base in California he was in 637 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:33,230 charge of photo optical 638 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:35,059 instrumentation at a tracking site in 639 00:29:35,059 --> 00:29:41,360 Big Sur 124 miles away his mission was 640 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,429 to film an Atlas rocket go through all 641 00:29:43,429 --> 00:29:46,010 three stages of powered flight this 642 00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:47,780 particular mission was part of the Nike 643 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:49,760 Zeus objective for the development of an 644 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,070 anti-missile missile during the height 645 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:55,190 of the Cold War all cameras rolled as 646 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:57,500 they heard liftoff from Vandenberg over 647 00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:00,010 their radio 648 00:30:09,370 --> 00:30:13,669 you're looking down south south west and 649 00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:15,590 the missile popped up through the fog 650 00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:19,159 was just beautiful and our guy is on our 651 00:30:19,159 --> 00:30:21,980 m45 tracking mount with 180 inch lenses 652 00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:22,850 on it got it 653 00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:25,070 and sure enough we could see all three 654 00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:26,539 stages of powered flight as they burned 655 00:30:26,539 --> 00:30:28,370 out and dropped away and then of course 656 00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:30,140 to our naked eye always thought was a 657 00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:32,990 cosmic trail going off into subspace 658 00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:35,990 so we whoop eating shouted and heard the 659 00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:39,049 film rap off in the in the BU telescope 660 00:30:39,049 --> 00:30:42,200 and figured well that was our first big 661 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,110 deal we got it lieutenant Jacobs then 662 00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:46,880 took the cans of film down to Vandenberg 663 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,389 to have them develop that night the 664 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:52,220 following morning Jacobs was ordered to 665 00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:54,110 go immediately to the office of major 666 00:30:54,110 --> 00:30:56,510 Florence J Mannesmann the ranking 667 00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:58,429 optical instrumentation officer in 668 00:30:58,429 --> 00:31:00,740 charge I walked into his office and they 669 00:31:00,740 --> 00:31:02,690 had a screen and a 16 millimeter 670 00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:05,809 projector setup there was a couch and 671 00:31:05,809 --> 00:31:07,789 major Mansmann said sit down and there 672 00:31:07,789 --> 00:31:10,789 were two guys as I recall two guys he in 673 00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:13,669 grey suits civilian clothes which was 674 00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:18,350 fairly unusual um and a major Mansmann 675 00:31:18,350 --> 00:31:21,740 said watch this and turned on the film 676 00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:23,539 projector and I watched the screen and 677 00:31:23,539 --> 00:31:25,970 there was the launch from the day or two 678 00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:28,460 before it at Big Sur as the Atlas 679 00:31:28,460 --> 00:31:31,100 missile entered the frame we could see 680 00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:34,419 the whole third stage which is which has 681 00:31:34,419 --> 00:31:37,519 two rocket nozzles like this and one in 682 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:38,779 the center or gimballed one in the 683 00:31:38,779 --> 00:31:41,539 center filling our frame from a hundred 684 00:31:41,539 --> 00:31:44,000 and about 160 miles it was pretty 685 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,220 exciting optics and then on that 686 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:49,429 telescope we could see the warhead the 687 00:31:49,429 --> 00:31:52,070 dummy warhead according to Jacobs at 688 00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:53,840 this stage the rocket was travelling 689 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,880 between eleven and fourteen thousand 690 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,649 miles per hour when a saucer-shaped 691 00:31:57,649 --> 00:32:00,860 craft entered the frame it flew into the 692 00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:03,110 frame like this and it shot a beam of 693 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:07,220 light at the warhead now remember all 694 00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:08,840 this stuff is flying at several thousand 695 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,029 miles an hour so this thing fires a beam 696 00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:12,830 of light at the warhead hits it fires 697 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:14,659 another beam of white and then flies out 698 00:32:14,659 --> 00:32:15,440 the way it came in 699 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,190 and the warhead tumbles out of it out of 700 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:21,130 eight 701 00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:23,330 now when the lights came on major 702 00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:25,100 Mansmann turned around looked at me and 703 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,110 said were you guys screwing around up 704 00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:32,299 there and I said no sir and he said what 705 00:32:32,299 --> 00:32:36,350 was that and I said it looks to me like 706 00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:41,809 we got a UFO nearly two decades later 707 00:32:41,809 --> 00:32:43,429 several letters written by major 708 00:32:43,429 --> 00:32:45,590 Florence J manse Minh were obtained in 709 00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:49,540 one dated March 8th 1983 major Mansmann 710 00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:52,179 corroborated lieutenant Jacobs story in 711 00:32:52,179 --> 00:32:55,450 the film the assumption was at that time 712 00:32:55,450 --> 00:32:57,679 extraterrestrial details would be 713 00:32:57,679 --> 00:33:00,350 sketchy and from memory the shape was 714 00:33:00,350 --> 00:33:02,900 classic discs the center seemed to be a 715 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:07,100 raised bubble now major Mansmann said to 716 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:14,000 me after some discussion about it and he 717 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,890 said you are never to speak of this 718 00:33:15,890 --> 00:33:16,330 again 719 00:33:16,330 --> 00:33:19,250 as far as you're concerned this never 720 00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:23,179 happened in another letter major 721 00:33:23,179 --> 00:33:25,610 Mansmann describes how two agents took 722 00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:28,100 the footage they did not sign out for 723 00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,230 all the footage but took out that part 724 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:32,210 that showed the encounter and returned 725 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,160 the rest of the film as a complete 726 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,890 package the one agent stated as he 727 00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:39,440 handed me back the film that leaves you 728 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,010 off the hook but not off any disclosure 729 00:33:42,010 --> 00:33:45,559 understood naturally my answer was yes 730 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,290 sir major Mansmann never saw it again 731 00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:50,900 and as far as I'm concerned or nobody 732 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:52,520 else ever saw it again certainly not at 733 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,870 Vandenberg I'm certain that it left 734 00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:57,010 Annenberg and went somewhere else 735 00:33:57,340 --> 00:34:00,049 another case involving nuclear missiles 736 00:34:00,049 --> 00:34:01,880 happened three years later at Malmstrom 737 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,669 Air Force Base in Montana this site is 738 00:34:04,669 --> 00:34:08,320 the largest missile field in the world 739 00:34:08,889 --> 00:34:11,750 exactly we're told not to talk about we 740 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:15,918 did not talk about anyone as a Strategic 741 00:34:15,918 --> 00:34:18,109 Air Command launch controller Lieutenant 742 00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:20,000 Colonel Robert Salas was one of the men 743 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,649 responsible for the deployment of 744 00:34:21,649 --> 00:34:25,359 nuclear Minuteman missiles 745 00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:28,359 three-two-one 746 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:35,119 these missiles were to be launched as a 747 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:36,859 counterattack in the event of nuclear 748 00:34:36,859 --> 00:34:43,668 war on March 16 1967 lieutenant colonel 749 00:34:43,668 --> 00:34:45,800 Salas was on duty when he was contacted 750 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,989 by his two side guard staying that there 751 00:34:47,989 --> 00:34:50,000 was an unidentified object above them so 752 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,050 site Salas ordered the guard to observe 753 00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:55,969 and report back on any further 754 00:34:55,969 --> 00:34:57,859 development that he called back within a 755 00:34:57,859 --> 00:35:00,800 few minutes and was very frightened I 756 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960 could tell by his voice he was extremely 757 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,570 agitated he said there was an object 758 00:35:07,570 --> 00:35:10,280 hovering outside the front gate a 759 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,780 reddish orange oval-shaped object and it 760 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:16,190 just hung there quietly 761 00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:20,390 I went woke up my commander and told him 762 00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:24,950 about the two phone calls and as I was 763 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:27,560 telling him about the phone calls our 764 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,250 missiles went into no-go condition one 765 00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:35,170 after the other we lost nearly 20 766 00:35:35,170 --> 00:35:39,109 missiles that morning after speaking 767 00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:40,820 with his commander solace again 768 00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:43,820 contacted the topside guard the guard 769 00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:47,630 said that the UFO had vanished basically 770 00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:50,720 just took off at high speed there's no 771 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,810 longer there these missiles are 772 00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:57,740 controlled individually so if something 773 00:35:57,740 --> 00:35:59,720 did happen within the system the 774 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,580 electrical system might say or the 775 00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:04,010 command and control system for one 776 00:36:04,010 --> 00:36:06,800 missile one launch facility it would not 777 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,480 affect the others and in addition these 778 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,599 missiles are separated by miles so all 779 00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:17,380 these things point to the fact that 780 00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:22,120 somehow this object was able to 781 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,940 disable these missiles later that day 782 00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:27,980 solace was ordered to report to the Air 783 00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:29,590 Force Office of Special Investigations 784 00:36:29,590 --> 00:36:33,320 for debriefing by two OSI officers and 785 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,260 so after we gave our little debrief the 786 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:38,750 first thing they have OSI guy did is 787 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:41,750 stand up and said you need to sign these 788 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:43,730 documents not to disclose any of this to 789 00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:48,860 anyone ever and we signed and basically 790 00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:52,100 that was it they neither one of them 791 00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:54,560 asked too many more questions and we 792 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,920 were escorted out several recently 793 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,290 declassified documents supports Alice's 794 00:37:00,290 --> 00:37:03,310 claims of UFO sightings near Malmstrom 795 00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:06,560 this preliminary report dated the 24th 796 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,590 of March 1967 states that between the 797 00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:12,320 hours of 2100 and Oh 400 Mountain 798 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,780 Standard time numerous reports were 799 00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:16,580 received by Malmstrom Air Force Base 800 00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:19,340 agencies of UFO sightings in the Great 801 00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:23,630 Falls Montana area it goes on further to 802 00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:27,020 state that reports of a UFO landing near 803 00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:29,570 belt Montana were received from several 804 00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:32,030 sources including deputies of Cascade 805 00:37:32,030 --> 00:37:36,350 County Sheriff's Office another formerly 806 00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:38,630 classified secret Air Force Telex states 807 00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:41,030 that the fact that no apparent reason 808 00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:43,100 for the loss of ten missiles can be 809 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:45,500 readily identified is cause for grave 810 00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:51,020 concern to this headquarters in 1993 811 00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:52,790 after Lieutenant Colonel Salas had 812 00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:54,800 retired from the Air Force he tried to 813 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,630 gain access to official Air Force 814 00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:59,660 records of the incident in a letter from 815 00:37:59,660 --> 00:38:01,400 the Department of the Air Force he was 816 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,640 informed that no UFO report affected 817 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,460 national security making reference to an 818 00:38:07,460 --> 00:38:09,710 attached Air Force fact sheet which 819 00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:13,400 states no UFO reported investigated and 820 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,560 evaluated by the Air Force has ever 821 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,660 given any indication of threat to our 822 00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:22,940 national security if 20 nuclear missiles 823 00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:25,040 going down at the same time UFOs are 824 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,140 sighted nearly 20 is not a national 825 00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:32,750 security incident and I don't know what 826 00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:33,690 is 827 00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:36,369 if unidentified flying objects are 828 00:38:36,369 --> 00:38:38,259 capable of disabling our most powerful 829 00:38:38,259 --> 00:38:40,809 weapon systems then understandably the 830 00:38:40,809 --> 00:38:42,730 military would not want to reveal any 831 00:38:42,730 --> 00:38:45,630 information exposing its vulnerability 832 00:38:45,630 --> 00:38:48,099 this is confirmed in a letter from the 833 00:38:48,099 --> 00:38:49,839 department of the US Air Force which 834 00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:52,029 states as regards this subject matter 835 00:38:52,029 --> 00:38:54,670 mere existence or nonexistence is 836 00:38:54,670 --> 00:38:57,009 currently and properly classified per 837 00:38:57,009 --> 00:38:59,410 executive order and exempt from 838 00:38:59,410 --> 00:39:01,509 mandatory disclosure under the Freedom 839 00:39:01,509 --> 00:39:03,640 of Information Act because it would 840 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,799 reveal defense capability or lack 841 00:39:05,799 --> 00:39:09,430 thereof this letter was a response to an 842 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:11,529 inquiry made by electronic system 843 00:39:11,529 --> 00:39:14,529 technician Lee Graham at the time Mr 844 00:39:14,529 --> 00:39:16,480 Graham worked at Aerojet a prime 845 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,519 contractor to the US Air Force in 846 00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:20,730 developing DSP satellites 847 00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:23,589 he asked the foreign technology division 848 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:25,420 if the satellite system he worked on 849 00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:29,829 could and had detected UFOs perhaps we 850 00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:33,309 need some outside universal threat to 851 00:39:33,309 --> 00:39:35,259 man five separate occasions Ronald 852 00:39:35,259 --> 00:39:37,119 Reagan made references to an outside 853 00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,579 alien threat and the unifying effect it 854 00:39:39,579 --> 00:39:42,099 would have on us all one such reference 855 00:39:42,099 --> 00:39:44,710 was made in September of 1987 while 856 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:46,559 addressing the United Nations I 857 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:49,450 occasionally think how quickly our 858 00:39:49,450 --> 00:39:53,739 differences worldwide would vanish if we 859 00:39:53,739 --> 00:39:56,289 were facing an alien threat from outside 860 00:39:56,289 --> 00:40:01,930 this world and yet I ask you is not an 861 00:40:01,930 --> 00:40:05,049 alien force already among us what could 862 00:40:05,049 --> 00:40:07,660 be more alien to the universal 863 00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:10,059 aspirations of our peoples than war and 864 00:40:10,059 --> 00:40:13,410 the threat of war 865 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:27,890 not every government chooses to deny the 866 00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:31,550 existence of UFOs since the fall of 867 00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:34,130 communism in 1989 information 868 00:40:34,130 --> 00:40:35,810 surrounding the subject has become much 869 00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:44,900 more accessible in Russia cosmonauts 870 00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:46,970 Pavel Popovich was one of Russia's 871 00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:49,370 earliest cosmonauts he joins the ranks 872 00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:51,170 of an increasing number of military 873 00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:53,570 personnel who have testified as to the 874 00:40:53,570 --> 00:40:56,980 validity of the UFO phenomena 875 00:40:56,980 --> 00:40:59,390 major-general Popovich shared with us a 876 00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:01,340 sighting he had while flying home from 877 00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:03,650 Washington DC with a delegation of 878 00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:06,770 scientists not only was leaked that 879 00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:08,600 equation one individual was really 880 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,670 aluminum matter but smartly to believe 881 00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:13,520 me another yep a squadron was message 882 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,010 another effective stress or study some 883 00:41:16,010 --> 00:41:19,790 artillery atom the practically a morbid 884 00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:24,860 Pantera at mass and morbid Natisha metro 885 00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:29,720 fish a little object presume ramming a 886 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,850 true one day for me around a bit and a 887 00:41:31,850 --> 00:41:35,080 true when he nearly nearly yurka Billy 888 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,690 New Year's resolution which mr. beetle 889 00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:41,480 yes they know get the typically Titanic 890 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,710 operate on new at a unit on Apollo's 891 00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:47,330 pilots contacted ground control 892 00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:49,460 ground control did not detect anything 893 00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:51,770 on radar even though the object could be 894 00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:58,730 seen by all occupant of the plane Kurisu 895 00:41:58,730 --> 00:42:01,510 yes Ramesh yet the premier Aten 896 00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:03,890 diversity Sir Philip issue kilometer of 897 00:42:03,890 --> 00:42:06,950 just don't partial scholarship Rivera 898 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:09,950 yet a politician minimum cost on a 899 00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:14,000 bananas no Anna bistra no Pacino 900 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,090 yet the chicken treats Saugatuck 901 00:42:17,090 --> 00:42:23,480 impartial a bananas ensure in academic 902 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,730 in Victoria to absolutely anything even 903 00:42:25,730 --> 00:42:28,369 amongst covered Turtles object 904 00:42:28,369 --> 00:42:31,830 now we're going to me the head of spell 905 00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:35,250 special intelligence section of the 906 00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:37,910 center 907 00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:44,500 major-general my cigarettes live just 908 00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,200 outside Moscow is Star City this is the 909 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,460 home of the Russian space program 910 00:43:02,970 --> 00:43:05,520 during the space race in the late 50s 911 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,440 and early 60s the Russians also 912 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,780 experienced numerous sightings of UFOs 913 00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:28,270 in Star City we met with general 914 00:43:28,270 --> 00:43:30,310 Alexeyev who spoke with us about the 915 00:43:30,310 --> 00:43:32,440 history of unidentified flying objects 916 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:39,640 over Russia she spent on the propeller 917 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,780 Callisto etc we're Americans IDO 918 00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:46,930 molinaro's who scheduled in a pulsar and 919 00:43:46,930 --> 00:43:54,210 Nokia Tamira CCMS Ryu Luigi Washington 920 00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:57,550 Missouri alum which is neutral casa de 921 00:43:57,550 --> 00:44:01,360 la bola countries so they started wash 922 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,690 em of the Whitlam American some satyros 923 00:44:04,690 --> 00:44:08,050 Kim Syria's not a spirits during the 924 00:44:08,050 --> 00:44:10,750 cold war with the Soviet Union the u-2 925 00:44:10,750 --> 00:44:12,490 spy plane was one of the most highly 926 00:44:12,490 --> 00:44:15,370 classified projects in the late 50s 927 00:44:15,370 --> 00:44:17,320 Gordon Cooper was involved with its 928 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,780 research and development being familiar 929 00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:22,090 with that eras cutting-edge technology 930 00:44:22,090 --> 00:44:24,220 Cooper was certain that the craft he'd 931 00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:27,010 seen was not manufactured on this planet 932 00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:30,610 I mean that we didn't have any vehicles 933 00:44:30,610 --> 00:44:35,470 of that kind and I was 99.9% sure that 934 00:44:35,470 --> 00:44:38,160 the Russians didn't have any of that pie 935 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,330 yes the duty cycle in is possible what 936 00:44:43,330 --> 00:44:44,740 photo a postcard 937 00:44:44,740 --> 00:44:46,930 I was happy Dussehra gather the retina 938 00:44:46,930 --> 00:44:52,180 podium but the nude or later no achieve 939 00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:55,470 the fantasy 940 00:44:58,299 --> 00:45:01,549 by the 70s the Russian military began to 941 00:45:01,549 --> 00:45:04,069 take the UFO subject very seriously 942 00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:07,640 Pato confirm at singing the stick look a 943 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,630 quarter moon a moon very resourceful 944 00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:13,250 they always the muchacha to infer 945 00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:15,920 bathroom very nice a matured will 946 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,549 anyways work 947 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,430 at this point the Soviet Union allocated 948 00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:23,260 a great sum of money towards a thorough 949 00:45:23,260 --> 00:45:28,200 investigation of the UFO phenomena yada 950 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,070 attributable opéra de la Isla de les 951 00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:37,930 mis' of washing their name what took 952 00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:42,760 that naturally do much stop this is 953 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:48,100 weakness released after the fall of the 954 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,350 Soviet Union blahs most brought about a 955 00:45:50,350 --> 00:45:53,260 new era of openness we traveled to 956 00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:55,359 mineral water a city near the Chechnyan 957 00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:57,310 border where we met with Deputy Minister 958 00:45:57,310 --> 00:45:58,359 of the Interior 959 00:45:58,359 --> 00:46:02,080 Colonel Levitch he shared with us a 960 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,000 sighting he had while flying in a 961 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,730 commercial jet over Russia he along with 962 00:46:06,730 --> 00:46:09,850 100 other passengers noticed a spherical 963 00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:12,940 object outside the plane that sharp not 964 00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:17,109 molinos nice cheese at cadets the fix 965 00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:20,020 here Watson I misty a carboy as she 966 00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:22,810 showers to a NASA probe our diet 967 00:46:22,810 --> 00:46:27,720 narsimha not yet liver spirit Ottawa 968 00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:32,740 Ches exam I presume Nellis we're a part 969 00:46:32,740 --> 00:46:34,540 of mineral in a wooded talk attack dama 970 00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:41,619 but he really is video at Redmond this 971 00:46:41,619 --> 00:46:43,480 siding led the colonel to do extensive 972 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,670 research on UFO incidents throughout 973 00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:48,930 Russia Russian service console using 974 00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:52,840 bilasa created a my my post-op honestly 975 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,480 she attributed a solution request o- 976 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,660 publication Ebola Nostra Aetate Auto V 977 00:46:58,660 --> 00:47:03,270 nikto Jasha tire store at Critias very 978 00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:06,940 Zanetti up Rita a team 979 00:47:06,940 --> 00:47:10,540 no problem America Hawaii unappreciated 980 00:47:10,540 --> 00:47:13,260 symbology 981 00:47:17,309 --> 00:47:20,229 140 miles north of London is Bentwaters 982 00:47:20,229 --> 00:47:23,709 England in December of 1980 the united 983 00:47:23,709 --> 00:47:25,599 states air force base armed with nuclear 984 00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:28,089 weapons was reportedly the site of a 985 00:47:28,089 --> 00:47:30,249 series of UFO encounters over a 986 00:47:30,249 --> 00:47:48,880 three-day period responding to reports 987 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,549 of a possible downed aircraft three 988 00:47:51,549 --> 00:47:53,289 patrolmen were sent out to Rendlesham 989 00:47:53,289 --> 00:47:55,589 forest to investigate 990 00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:58,779 airman first class Edward Caban Zagg was 991 00:47:58,779 --> 00:48:00,729 one of the security officers present 992 00:48:00,729 --> 00:48:04,779 that night we were on security one which 993 00:48:04,779 --> 00:48:07,449 was in charge of mobile security for the 994 00:48:07,449 --> 00:48:11,139 Woodbridge Base and we responded to 995 00:48:11,139 --> 00:48:14,319 jimbros his sighting of something out on 996 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:17,649 the edge of the flight line as the three 997 00:48:17,649 --> 00:48:19,209 officers approached the alleged crash 998 00:48:19,209 --> 00:48:21,339 site it became obvious that it wasn't 999 00:48:21,339 --> 00:48:23,949 what they were prepared for Jim burrows 1000 00:48:23,949 --> 00:48:25,359 would say to Jim Penniston do you see 1001 00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:27,099 that do you see do you see what's out 1002 00:48:27,099 --> 00:48:28,989 there at that at the edge of the trees 1003 00:48:28,989 --> 00:48:31,839 and as we got closer and closer and saw 1004 00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:34,089 it's like just looking up and then I 1005 00:48:34,089 --> 00:48:36,279 could see it moving left right left 1006 00:48:36,279 --> 00:48:42,630 right and it had blue white yellow light 1007 00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:46,160 the closer we would get to it we would 1008 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,400 lose communication you know with central 1009 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,670 security control Caban sag was sent back 1010 00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:54,680 towards the base to help transmit radio 1011 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,390 communications between the other two 1012 00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:59,200 officers who went further to investigate 1013 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,970 what happened next according to a secret 1014 00:49:01,970 --> 00:49:03,740 Air Force memo obtained under the 1015 00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:05,780 Freedom of Information Act is that a 1016 00:49:05,780 --> 00:49:07,970 triangular-shaped object was found on 1017 00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:10,369 the forest floor it had a red light on 1018 00:49:10,369 --> 00:49:13,060 top and a bank of blue lights underneath 1019 00:49:13,060 --> 00:49:16,250 the Air Force memo continued as the 1020 00:49:16,250 --> 00:49:17,930 patrolman approached the object it 1021 00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:19,400 maneuvered through the trees and 1022 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,430 disappeared this Air Force memo was 1023 00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:24,590 written by Deputy base commander Charles 1024 00:49:24,590 --> 00:49:27,230 halt they claimed that something from 1025 00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:30,200 outside the Earth's atmosphere landed at 1026 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,170 their Air Force Base they went and stood 1027 00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:34,880 by it they inspected it they 1028 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,250 photographed it the following day they 1029 00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:39,109 took tests on the worth of ground where 1030 00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:41,260 it had been and found radioactive 1031 00:49:41,260 --> 00:50:04,130 tracers I think it's fairly well known 1032 00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:08,810 that Colonel Holt and his team examined 1033 00:50:08,810 --> 00:50:11,510 the landing site very carefully both the 1034 00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:15,220 damage to the trees and the three 1035 00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:17,630 indentations found on the forest floor 1036 00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:20,180 where this metallic craft was seen to 1037 00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:23,060 land while deputy base commander 1038 00:50:23,060 --> 00:50:25,339 Lieutenant Colonel Charles halt and 1039 00:50:25,339 --> 00:50:26,630 several fellow officers were 1040 00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:28,700 investigating the alleged landing site 1041 00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:32,270 he also witnessed multiple UFOs this 1042 00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:34,339 event was captured on Colonel halts own 1043 00:50:34,339 --> 00:50:37,660 pocket tape recorder 1044 00:51:10,530 --> 00:51:13,450 the united states air force position is 1045 00:51:13,450 --> 00:51:15,280 that there was a sighting on the base 1046 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,710 witnessed by both high-ranking officers 1047 00:51:17,710 --> 00:51:20,440 and base security police however 1048 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,440 according to the united states air force 1049 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,300 military personnel mistook a stationary 1050 00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:30,250 lighthouse for a UFO three competent Air 1051 00:51:30,250 --> 00:51:33,580 Force guys sought to not to ever talk 1052 00:51:33,580 --> 00:51:35,650 about it when he returned to the base 1053 00:51:35,650 --> 00:51:37,930 airman Caban Zig was ordered to report 1054 00:51:37,930 --> 00:51:40,570 to Colonel halt for debriefing he asked 1055 00:51:40,570 --> 00:51:42,400 me what I saw it there what happened and 1056 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,180 I believe I told him and I was told to 1057 00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:50,830 sign some paperwork stating that what I 1058 00:51:50,830 --> 00:51:54,040 saw it there was just the beacon that 1059 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,740 was that was out there and that and that 1060 00:51:56,740 --> 00:52:00,630 there was nothing out of the ordinary 1061 00:52:01,619 --> 00:52:04,359 what did happen over a period of three 1062 00:52:04,359 --> 00:52:06,850 days at Bentwaters did a UFO actually 1063 00:52:06,850 --> 00:52:09,490 land at a u.s. airbase in England that 1064 00:52:09,490 --> 00:52:11,920 is one explanation that it actually 1065 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,310 happened as Colonel Holt reported the 1066 00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:19,530 other explanation is that it didn't and 1067 00:52:19,530 --> 00:52:23,770 in that case one is bound to assume that 1068 00:52:23,770 --> 00:52:26,260 Colonel Holt and all his men were 1069 00:52:26,260 --> 00:52:29,530 hallucinating the British Ministry of 1070 00:52:29,530 --> 00:52:31,450 Defense's position is that nothing that 1071 00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:33,400 took place at Bentwaters was of any 1072 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,190 defense interest this view is criticized 1073 00:52:36,190 --> 00:52:37,960 by former chief of the Defence Staff 1074 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,350 Admiral Lord Hill Norton that the 1075 00:52:41,350 --> 00:52:45,760 colonel of an American Air Force Base in 1076 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,280 Suffolk and his Merry Men are 1077 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,710 hallucinating when there are nuclear 1078 00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:53,980 armed aircraft on the base must be of 1079 00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:57,070 Defence interest if indeed what he says 1080 00:52:57,070 --> 00:52:59,859 took place did take this and why on 1081 00:52:59,859 --> 00:53:02,410 earth should he make it up then surely 1082 00:53:02,410 --> 00:53:07,210 the entry of a vehicle from outer space 1083 00:53:07,210 --> 00:53:10,390 certainly not man-made to a defence base 1084 00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:13,390 in this country also cannot fail to be 1085 00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:15,880 of Defence interest the public position 1086 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,369 of the Ministry of Defence is that UFOs 1087 00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:19,360 posed 1088 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,430 no threat to the defense of the realm 1089 00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:23,560 well I quite understand such statements 1090 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,570 and indeed during my tour of duty I 1091 00:53:25,570 --> 00:53:28,240 probably wrote statements like that from 1092 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:31,840 1992 to 1995 the British government 1093 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,630 employed Nick Pope to investigate UFO 1094 00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:35,380 reports 1095 00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:38,470 he now differs with their position while 1096 00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:40,390 it's true to say that there's been no 1097 00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:43,870 overt hostile action it certainly seems 1098 00:53:43,870 --> 00:53:46,750 to me premature to say that there is 1099 00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:49,000 nothing of any defense significance when 1100 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,130 you don't know what they are 1101 00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:52,720 georgina Bruni has been researching the 1102 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:55,060 Bentwaters incident for over five years 1103 00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:57,850 her book you can't tell the people is 1104 00:53:57,850 --> 00:54:00,490 the definitive account of this case in 1105 00:54:00,490 --> 00:54:03,250 May of 2001 she was one of the first to 1106 00:54:03,250 --> 00:54:04,750 receive a number of previously 1107 00:54:04,750 --> 00:54:07,030 classified documents from the Ministry 1108 00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:09,120 of Defence about the Bentwaters incident 1109 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,590 these documents are known as the 1110 00:54:11,590 --> 00:54:13,540 Rendlesham files in one of the first 1111 00:54:13,540 --> 00:54:17,110 documents in the file we have now in 1112 00:54:17,110 --> 00:54:20,170 black and white that general guy 1113 00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:22,480 Berryhill who was the chief of the 1114 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,820 United States Air Force in Europe was 1115 00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:28,060 handed taped evidence why would general 1116 00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:29,830 Gabriel one of the most important 1117 00:54:29,830 --> 00:54:32,290 members of the US military in Europe be 1118 00:54:32,290 --> 00:54:34,630 handed evidence for the incident unless 1119 00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:37,990 it was of extreme significance the other 1120 00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:40,270 significant factor is that this is not 1121 00:54:40,270 --> 00:54:42,400 your follow just talking here we have 1122 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,010 the Defense Intelligence staff carrying 1123 00:54:45,010 --> 00:54:46,660 out their own investigation and 1124 00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:49,600 admitting that the radiation readings 1125 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,660 were 10 times higher than normal one 1126 00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:54,100 other document released in the 1127 00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:56,410 Rendlesham files is this defensive press 1128 00:54:56,410 --> 00:54:59,500 line issued by the mo D instructing the 1129 00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:01,300 authorities how they should respond to 1130 00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:01,990 the media 1131 00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:05,470 it states that mo D was satisfied that 1132 00:55:05,470 --> 00:55:07,150 there was nothing of Defense interest 1133 00:55:07,150 --> 00:55:10,660 and there was no question of any contact 1134 00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:12,760 with alien beings when I talked to 1135 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,260 Margaret Thatcher the former Prime 1136 00:55:14,260 --> 00:55:16,960 Minister of the United Kingdom about the 1137 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,260 subject of UFOs she said you have to 1138 00:55:20,260 --> 00:55:22,570 have the facts and you can't tell the 1139 00:55:22,570 --> 00:55:25,270 people we were told not to talk about it 1140 00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:28,960 so we didn't what we saw out there was 1141 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,970 definitely 1142 00:55:30,970 --> 00:55:40,790 unidentifiable in the southwest of 1143 00:55:40,790 --> 00:55:41,360 England 1144 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,400 just outside Somerset there was another 1145 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,740 sighting it was captured on videotape 1146 00:55:45,740 --> 00:55:50,900 got it got it yeah I think it's coming 1147 00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:51,260 this way 1148 00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:55,600 yeah yeah I can see 1149 00:55:56,050 --> 00:55:59,230 is it 1150 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:07,150 it is the UFO that you saw originally 1151 00:56:07,150 --> 00:56:11,620 was spotted props me about 200 yards to 1152 00:56:11,620 --> 00:56:14,560 the left of the aerial mast and I 1153 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,860 suppose it was probably at about 500 1154 00:56:17,860 --> 00:56:21,400 feet up it was very low in the sky and 1155 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,800 this is a really communication 1156 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,090 communication sir they've got three 1157 00:56:25,090 --> 00:56:29,980 military masts on there and it sends out 1158 00:56:29,980 --> 00:56:33,280 what is a navigational signal which is 1159 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,800 used for aircraft the other two areas 1160 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,020 that are near the top we're not quite 1161 00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:40,630 sure but there is a post frequency that 1162 00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:43,560 comes from them 1163 00:56:49,070 --> 00:56:52,460 the actual UFO from the time it was 1164 00:56:52,460 --> 00:56:55,460 first seen by rod Dickinson who did the 1165 00:56:55,460 --> 00:56:58,550 filming it lasted approximately 12 1166 00:56:58,550 --> 00:57:01,640 minutes so it was quite a long period of 1167 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,390 time for a daylight sighting to occur we 1168 00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:07,610 took this tape to be analyzed by Lucas 1169 00:57:07,610 --> 00:57:09,290 films special effects division 1170 00:57:09,290 --> 00:57:11,750 Industrial Light and Magic in San Rafael 1171 00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:15,140 California here we met with Bill George 1172 00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:17,480 an academy award-winning visual effects 1173 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,210 supervisor over the last 20 years his 1174 00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:21,830 special effects have been featured in 1175 00:57:21,830 --> 00:57:24,310 films like Star Wars The Phantom Menace 1176 00:57:24,310 --> 00:57:27,410 the optical zoom certainly would he 1177 00:57:27,410 --> 00:57:29,300 analyzed this footage to determine its 1178 00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:30,920 authenticity but there are several 1179 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,900 things that I see when the footage is 1180 00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:35,510 running that tells me this was actually 1181 00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:37,880 there when this was filmed first of all 1182 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,520 it's the shake the shake if you were to 1183 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,350 give me a background plate of just the 1184 00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:44,000 sky and say we want you to take this 1185 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,100 image of a flying saucer and match it in 1186 00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:47,960 that's something that's technically very 1187 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,520 difficult to do because you would have 1188 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,260 to match putting the two elements 1189 00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:52,400 together you would have to match the 1190 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,010 shake now certainly we have computers 1191 00:57:55,010 --> 00:57:56,840 that can track that but this is just 1192 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,730 this is all over the map a couple other 1193 00:57:58,730 --> 00:58:00,890 cues that tell me that this is actually 1194 00:58:00,890 --> 00:58:03,170 there when it was being filmed was that 1195 00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:04,880 it's going in and out of focus with the 1196 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,880 background because the camera is trying 1197 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,170 to compensate and trying to focus 1198 00:58:09,170 --> 00:58:11,360 probably have some sort of auto focus so 1199 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,830 the background is going in and out of 1200 00:58:12,830 --> 00:58:15,980 focus along with the object there are 1201 00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:17,690 these dark things flying through frame 1202 00:58:17,690 --> 00:58:19,490 and if someone was to have to put that 1203 00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:20,870 in there they would have to composite it 1204 00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:22,550 in behind the birds it's a it would be a 1205 00:58:22,550 --> 00:58:24,800 technical problem Bill George couldn't 1206 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,020 say it was a real UFO but he could 1207 00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:29,330 confirm for us but the object was not 1208 00:58:29,330 --> 00:58:31,850 added in later given those Clues I'm 1209 00:58:31,850 --> 00:58:33,890 convinced that this object was there 1210 00:58:33,890 --> 00:58:38,300 when this person was was taping in 1968 1211 00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:40,490 the UFO subject was being debated at the 1212 00:58:40,490 --> 00:58:43,420 highest levels of government 1213 00:58:43,609 --> 00:58:45,960 the debate was triggered by a major 1214 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,490 sighting over the state of Michigan on 1215 00:58:50,490 --> 00:58:52,740 either side and then the red light was 1216 00:58:52,740 --> 00:58:54,869 sort of passing a goal the whole thing 1217 00:58:54,869 --> 00:58:57,990 look like a round dip when he got to the 1218 00:58:57,990 --> 00:59:00,500 top of the trees it stopped you know 1219 00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:02,160 light come on 1220 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,830 good evening Walter Cronkite reported 1221 00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:07,260 the incident on CBS residents of the 1222 00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:09,960 area saw it the police saw it 1223 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,030 sergeant Newell Snyder of the Sheriff's 1224 00:59:12,030 --> 00:59:13,920 Office remembered it well enough to draw 1225 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:19,619 it what do you think it was the Air 1226 00:59:19,619 --> 00:59:22,170 Force Senate consultant Alan Hynek in to 1227 00:59:22,170 --> 00:59:24,839 review what had been going on 1228 00:59:24,839 --> 00:59:29,790 and Hynek off about one or two days on 1229 00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:31,859 the field had to face a big press 1230 00:59:31,859 --> 00:59:33,990 conference he said well I don't know 1231 00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:36,720 what was going on it may have been Marsh 1232 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,510 gas a little bit of swamp white appears 1233 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:41,790 here it goes out another one appears 1234 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:43,859 over here that goes out and but the 1235 00:59:43,859 --> 00:59:46,290 illusion is you from a distance is that 1236 00:59:46,290 --> 00:59:47,849 the objects that moved back and forth 1237 00:59:47,849 --> 00:59:51,150 the public was absolutely furious and 1238 00:59:51,150 --> 00:59:54,320 the press can't made fun of it and 1239 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,960 congressman fault of Michigan thought 1240 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,650 would take action and he calls the pipe 1241 01:00:00,650 --> 01:00:03,470 hearings by the Armed Services Committee 1242 01:00:03,470 --> 01:00:07,410 this matter could be in a recent 1243 01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:09,510 occlusive telephone of view when Ford 1244 01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:11,220 confirmed his involvement in the 1245 01:00:11,220 --> 01:00:25,160 investigation an investigation be taken 1246 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,570 Congress heard testimony from a number 1247 01:00:27,570 --> 01:00:28,339 of witnesses 1248 01:00:28,339 --> 01:00:31,230 former Marine Corps Major Donald Kehoe 1249 01:00:31,230 --> 01:00:33,480 asserted that there was far more to UFOs 1250 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,880 than swamp gas in fact the Air Force at 1251 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,770 one time had a top-secret estimate that 1252 01:00:37,770 --> 01:00:39,720 these things were interplanetary space 1253 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,440 ships today we have over 10,000 cases of 1254 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,119 wright-patterson Air Force Base 1255 01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:49,089 oh wait 646 of these remaining 1256 01:00:49,089 --> 01:00:51,069 the Air Force has been accused from time 1257 01:00:51,069 --> 01:00:53,799 to time of hiding information about UFO 1258 01:00:53,799 --> 01:00:55,059 what do you have to say to that kind of 1259 01:00:55,059 --> 01:00:57,309 happy police charges are absolutely 1260 01:00:57,309 --> 01:00:58,299 untrue 1261 01:00:58,299 --> 01:01:00,249 the Air Force continued to maintain that 1262 01:01:00,249 --> 01:01:02,470 it was hiding nothing and we've always 1263 01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:04,779 honored accredited media when they want 1264 01:01:04,779 --> 01:01:07,779 to investigate a given specific sighting 1265 01:01:07,779 --> 01:01:09,819 there's nothing to hide there's nothing 1266 01:01:09,819 --> 01:01:13,809 to hide it off now this is not an attack 1267 01:01:13,809 --> 01:01:15,519 on the air force spokesman or the 1268 01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:17,589 project spokesman they are simply 1269 01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:19,109 following orders 1270 01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:22,569 to explain away all UFO sightings as 1271 01:01:22,569 --> 01:01:24,160 quickly as possible when they become 1272 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,940 public and deny that you both really 1273 01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:31,569 exist so it was pressure from Congress 1274 01:01:31,569 --> 01:01:34,930 that led to the study ended up not being 1275 01:01:34,930 --> 01:01:38,589 an open study will you know it was a few 1276 01:01:38,589 --> 01:01:40,509 days long it ended up by being a project 1277 01:01:40,509 --> 01:01:42,910 given to university that lasted 18 1278 01:01:42,910 --> 01:01:46,359 months in an effort to maintain a 1279 01:01:46,359 --> 01:01:48,640 neutral investigation it was assigned to 1280 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,569 the University of Colorado the 1281 01:01:52,569 --> 01:01:54,940 University gathered a team of 11 eminent 1282 01:01:54,940 --> 01:01:57,220 scientists they were to analyze and make 1283 01:01:57,220 --> 01:01:59,140 public their conclusions of the most 1284 01:01:59,140 --> 01:02:04,779 compelling UFO cases as reported in the 1285 01:02:04,779 --> 01:02:07,450 1968 feature article published by Look 1286 01:02:07,450 --> 01:02:10,150 magazine the university study was doomed 1287 01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:12,809 from the beginning 1288 01:02:16,140 --> 01:02:19,210 the project leader dr. Edward Condon 1289 01:02:19,210 --> 01:02:22,210 appeared to be biased from the start in 1290 01:02:22,210 --> 01:02:26,229 February of 1967 he stated my attitude 1291 01:02:26,229 --> 01:02:29,249 right now is that there's nothing to it 1292 01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:31,989 he added but I'm not supposed to reach a 1293 01:02:31,989 --> 01:02:40,809 conclusion for another year the look 1294 01:02:40,809 --> 01:02:42,549 article goes on to describe how two 1295 01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:45,130 scientists were fired over a leaked memo 1296 01:02:45,130 --> 01:02:49,019 written by one of the project's managers 1297 01:02:49,019 --> 01:02:51,789 this memo dictated what the project's 1298 01:02:51,789 --> 01:02:53,769 conclusions were to be before the 1299 01:02:53,769 --> 01:02:58,779 project even started the leaked memo 1300 01:02:58,779 --> 01:03:01,539 read the trick would be I think to 1301 01:03:01,539 --> 01:03:03,160 describe the project so that to the 1302 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,960 public it would appear a totally 1303 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,180 objective study but to the scientific 1304 01:03:07,180 --> 01:03:09,369 community would present the image of a 1305 01:03:09,369 --> 01:03:11,289 group of non-believers trying their best 1306 01:03:11,289 --> 01:03:13,509 to be objective but having an almost 1307 01:03:13,509 --> 01:03:18,089 zero expectation of finding a saucer 1308 01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:22,880 when representative J Edward Roush read 1309 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,979 the leaked memo and all the controversy 1310 01:03:24,979 --> 01:03:27,680 published by Look magazine he urged 1311 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,420 Congress to take over the investigation 1312 01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:32,150 because he challenged the objectivity of 1313 01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:38,569 the study his plea was ignored left 1314 01:03:38,569 --> 01:03:40,759 unchecked the project Chairman announced 1315 01:03:40,759 --> 01:03:43,039 the conclusions to the anxiously waiting 1316 01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:48,559 press dr. Condon stated that nothing has 1317 01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,509 come from the study of UFOs that is 1318 01:03:50,509 --> 01:03:55,039 added to scientific knowledge it is not 1319 01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:59,539 a fair an accurate a summary of the body 1320 01:03:59,539 --> 01:04:02,049 of the report which a summary should be 1321 01:04:02,049 --> 01:04:05,479 three decades later dr. Peter stork an 1322 01:04:05,479 --> 01:04:07,509 astrophysicist from Stanford University 1323 01:04:07,509 --> 01:04:10,009 takes a close look at some of the case 1324 01:04:10,009 --> 01:04:11,839 studies never mentioned in Condon 1325 01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:14,749 summary the Condon report is really a 1326 01:04:14,749 --> 01:04:16,999 complex document if you're looking for 1327 01:04:16,999 --> 01:04:19,009 what they thought a wild-goose chases 1328 01:04:19,009 --> 01:04:21,380 you'll find those if you're looking to 1329 01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:23,180 see whether there are any intriguing 1330 01:04:23,180 --> 01:04:26,089 cases that were really challenges to the 1331 01:04:26,089 --> 01:04:28,219 staff you'll find them and if you want 1332 01:04:28,219 --> 01:04:29,989 to see whether the staff thought 1333 01:04:29,989 --> 01:04:31,849 anything was what they call quotes a 1334 01:04:31,849 --> 01:04:35,059 real UFO you'll find that - there are 1335 01:04:35,059 --> 01:04:37,519 two radio visual cases analyzed by 1336 01:04:37,519 --> 01:04:40,880 McDonald and Thayer in conclusion 1337 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,890 although conventional or natural 1338 01:04:42,890 --> 01:04:44,960 explanations certainly cannot be ruled 1339 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,900 out the probability of such seems low in 1340 01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:49,999 this case and the probability that at 1341 01:04:49,999 --> 01:04:52,430 least one genuine UFO was involved 1342 01:04:52,430 --> 01:04:56,869 appears to be fairly high another case 1343 01:04:56,869 --> 01:04:59,809 summary was that this must remain as one 1344 01:04:59,809 --> 01:05:01,880 of the most puzzling radar cases on 1345 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,549 record and no conclusion is possible at 1346 01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:08,660 this time and there are two photographic 1347 01:05:08,660 --> 01:05:10,999 cases analyzed by William Hartmann who 1348 01:05:10,999 --> 01:05:14,269 he thought the possible UFOs this is one 1349 01:05:14,269 --> 01:05:16,430 of the few UFO reports in which all 1350 01:05:16,430 --> 01:05:19,059 factors investigated geometric 1351 01:05:19,059 --> 01:05:21,710 psychological and physical appear to be 1352 01:05:21,710 --> 01:05:23,869 consistent with the assertion that an 1353 01:05:23,869 --> 01:05:26,420 extraordinary flying object silvery 1354 01:05:26,420 --> 01:05:29,869 metallic disc shaped tens of meters in 1355 01:05:29,869 --> 01:05:32,259 diameter and evidently art of 1356 01:05:32,259 --> 01:05:36,069 flew within sight of two witnesses but 1357 01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:37,660 they do not feature at all in condoms 1358 01:05:37,660 --> 01:05:41,049 summary part the most people read the 1359 01:05:41,049 --> 01:05:43,990 part of the press refer to were the few 1360 01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:47,039 pages of conclude of recommendations and 1361 01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,869 about one chapter a short chapter of 1362 01:05:49,869 --> 01:05:51,730 summary that were written entirely by 1363 01:05:51,730 --> 01:05:53,220 condom 1364 01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:55,960 well the panel of scientists conducted 1365 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,269 an objective investigation as requested 1366 01:05:58,269 --> 01:06:00,670 by Congress the project leader appeared 1367 01:06:00,670 --> 01:06:02,859 to have ignored the data and asserted 1368 01:06:02,859 --> 01:06:04,450 that there was nothing to the UFO 1369 01:06:04,450 --> 01:06:07,019 phenomena 1370 01:06:07,619 --> 01:06:11,279 on December 18th 1969 the new york times 1371 01:06:11,279 --> 01:06:14,069 quoted dr. Condon saying it was a bunch 1372 01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:16,170 of damn nonsense and that he was sorry 1373 01:06:16,170 --> 01:06:17,759 that he ever got involved with such 1374 01:06:17,759 --> 01:06:21,900 foolishness Condon's thirty-year-old 1375 01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:24,059 conclusions are still being used today 1376 01:06:24,059 --> 01:06:26,309 as a benchmark to prevent further 1377 01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:30,469 official scientific investigation 1378 01:06:36,890 --> 01:06:40,200 one of the problems with so-called UFO 1379 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,210 research by debunkers is they ask the 1380 01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:44,130 wrong question their question is what 1381 01:06:44,130 --> 01:06:46,590 are UFOs really what they're saying is 1382 01:06:46,590 --> 01:06:48,990 are all UFOs alien spacecraft need 1383 01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:51,150 answers of courses no the proper 1384 01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:54,150 question is are any it appears that many 1385 01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:56,160 people in power are being kept out of 1386 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,530 the loop regarding the UFO phenomenon 1387 01:06:58,530 --> 01:07:01,200 at the same time covert operations being 1388 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,250 trucked in by the military-industrial 1389 01:07:02,250 --> 01:07:04,830 complex team do have escaped government 1390 01:07:04,830 --> 01:07:07,190 supervision 1391 01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:11,780 in the council's of government we must 1392 01:07:11,780 --> 01:07:14,180 guard against the acquisition of 1393 01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:16,369 unwarranted influence whether sought or 1394 01:07:16,369 --> 01:07:18,859 unsought by the military-industrial 1395 01:07:18,859 --> 01:07:22,369 complex in his farewell address to the 1396 01:07:22,369 --> 01:07:22,760 nation 1397 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,560 President Eisenhower cautioned the 1398 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,210 public about the relationship between 1399 01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:28,580 the US military and the industrial 1400 01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:30,890 sector which supplies the military with 1401 01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:33,650 weaponry and equipment Eisenhower felt 1402 01:07:33,650 --> 01:07:35,480 that if gone unchecked the 1403 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,730 military-industrial complex would become 1404 01:07:37,730 --> 01:07:40,520 too powerful the potential for the 1405 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,560 disastrous rise of misplaced power 1406 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,670 exists and will persist we must never 1407 01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:48,109 let the weight of this combination 1408 01:07:48,109 --> 01:07:50,060 endanger our liberties or democratic 1409 01:07:50,060 --> 01:07:53,900 processes but I think he was telling us 1410 01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:56,030 the military-industrial complex will 1411 01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:59,480 stick you in the back if you are not 1412 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,660 totally vigilant and I think he felt 1413 01:08:02,660 --> 01:08:04,490 like he had not been vigilant I think he 1414 01:08:04,490 --> 01:08:06,640 felt like he trusted too many people 1415 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,020 Brigadier General Stephen lovekins 1416 01:08:09,020 --> 01:08:11,150 served under President Eisenhower in the 1417 01:08:11,150 --> 01:08:15,260 White House Army signalling agency he 1418 01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:17,420 recalls Eisenhower's concern with the 1419 01:08:17,420 --> 01:08:21,229 military-industrial complex he realized 1420 01:08:21,229 --> 01:08:24,109 that he was losing control he realized 1421 01:08:24,109 --> 01:08:26,979 that this this the phenomenon of 1422 01:08:26,979 --> 01:08:30,469 whatever it was that that we were faced 1423 01:08:30,469 --> 01:08:33,319 with was not going to be in the best 1424 01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,930 hands and that that those were them as 1425 01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:38,080 far as I can remember that was the 1426 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,299 expression that was used it's not going 1427 01:08:41,299 --> 01:08:44,500 to be in the best hands 1428 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,620 almost as great as the mystery 1429 01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:51,988 surrounding the origin of UFOs is the 1430 01:08:51,988 --> 01:08:54,210 wall of denial encountered even by the 1431 01:08:54,210 --> 01:09:00,000 most powerful citizens in the land in 1432 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,029 October of 1969 President Jimmy Carter 1433 01:09:03,029 --> 01:09:05,009 who was then governor of Georgia had a 1434 01:09:05,009 --> 01:09:07,920 UFO sighting he filed a report with the 1435 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,719 National investigations committee on 1436 01:09:09,719 --> 01:09:13,020 aerial phenomena in the report he 1437 01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:14,448 described a sharply outlined 1438 01:09:14,448 --> 01:09:17,069 self-luminous object about the size of 1439 01:09:17,069 --> 01:09:21,899 the moon it maneuvered silently in front 1440 01:09:21,899 --> 01:09:25,948 of ten witnesses at a recent book tour 1441 01:09:25,948 --> 01:09:28,080 we asked President Jimmy Carter about 1442 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:40,620 his sighting during Jimmy Carter's 1443 01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:42,540 presidential campaign he promised to 1444 01:09:42,540 --> 01:09:44,339 make public what the government knew 1445 01:09:44,339 --> 01:09:49,290 about UFOs in an effort to fulfill this 1446 01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:51,330 promise President Carter's scientific 1447 01:09:51,330 --> 01:09:53,460 adviser Frank press wrote a letter 1448 01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:55,380 requesting that NASA lead the 1449 01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:59,690 investigations into the UFO phenomena 1450 01:10:02,830 --> 01:10:05,320 when news of this pending investigation 1451 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,960 reached airforce Colonel Charles Sen he 1452 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,490 wrote NASA in closing he stated I 1453 01:10:12,490 --> 01:10:15,010 sincerely hope you are successful in 1454 01:10:15,010 --> 01:10:16,780 preventing a reopening of UFO 1455 01:10:16,780 --> 01:10:21,940 investigations whatever activity is 1456 01:10:21,940 --> 01:10:24,210 going on to the extent that it is a 1457 01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:26,800 clandestine group at cause a government 1458 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:32,050 group a cause a private group it is 1459 01:10:32,050 --> 01:10:36,340 without any type as far as I can tell of 1460 01:10:36,340 --> 01:10:39,670 high-level government oversight and that 1461 01:10:39,670 --> 01:10:44,140 is a great concern in December of 1977 1462 01:10:44,140 --> 01:10:46,480 NASA officially declined President 1463 01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,790 Carter's request proposing that it take 1464 01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:50,710 no steps to establish a research 1465 01:10:50,710 --> 01:10:54,000 activity in this area 1466 01:10:56,180 --> 01:10:58,070 did you ask when you and president yes 1467 01:10:58,070 --> 01:11:00,020 but there's a lot of different answers 1468 01:11:00,020 --> 01:11:04,270 and nobody knows has people exactly 1469 01:11:09,070 --> 01:11:11,510 the American Broadcasting Company and 1470 01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:13,190 affiliated stations prevent headline 1471 01:11:13,190 --> 01:11:16,280 editions with Taylor grant the 590 Tomic 1472 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,139 Bomb Group headquarters at Rockwell New 1473 01:11:18,139 --> 01:11:20,690 Mexico reports that it has received one 1474 01:11:20,690 --> 01:11:22,519 of the discs which landed on a ranch 1475 01:11:22,519 --> 01:11:24,590 outside Roswell Colonel William 1476 01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:26,119 Blanchard of the Roswell Air Base 1477 01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:28,190 refuses to give details of what the 1478 01:11:28,190 --> 01:11:30,710 flying disc looked like New Mexico 1479 01:11:30,710 --> 01:11:33,079 congressman Steven Schiff was pressed by 1480 01:11:33,079 --> 01:11:35,179 his constituents into making inquiries 1481 01:11:35,179 --> 01:11:37,820 regarding the Roswell incident I think a 1482 01:11:37,820 --> 01:11:38,840 number of people getting their 1483 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,659 information from news stories in in not 1484 01:11:41,659 --> 01:11:44,059 in all cases but in many cases are not 1485 01:11:44,059 --> 01:11:47,510 getting all of the information in a 1997 1486 01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:49,940 radio interview he recalls what happened 1487 01:11:49,940 --> 01:11:51,380 when he made inquiries with the 1488 01:11:51,380 --> 01:11:53,480 Department of Defense the first response 1489 01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:55,940 I got was a bit of a terse response from 1490 01:11:55,940 --> 01:11:58,969 a colonel in the Air Force the letter 1491 01:11:58,969 --> 01:12:01,909 just said we've referred your request 1492 01:12:01,909 --> 01:12:03,380 for information of the National Archives 1493 01:12:03,380 --> 01:12:06,499 with really no further explanation and I 1494 01:12:06,499 --> 01:12:09,579 found that unusual at the very least 1495 01:12:09,579 --> 01:12:11,780 after a second attempt with the 1496 01:12:11,780 --> 01:12:13,670 Department of Defense congressman Schiff 1497 01:12:13,670 --> 01:12:15,349 was again referred to the National 1498 01:12:15,349 --> 01:12:18,829 Archives and I got a response from them 1499 01:12:18,829 --> 01:12:20,989 that said we have no information about 1500 01:12:20,989 --> 01:12:23,389 the Roswell incident and further they 1501 01:12:23,389 --> 01:12:25,400 added an note that said we've received a 1502 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,289 great number of requests for information 1503 01:12:27,289 --> 01:12:29,179 I thought to myself well I'm not 1504 01:12:29,179 --> 01:12:30,380 surprised I mean if the Defense 1505 01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:32,090 Department is sending everybody the 1506 01:12:32,090 --> 01:12:34,489 National Archives that they'd be getting 1507 01:12:34,489 --> 01:12:36,980 a lot of requests and frankly I felt 1508 01:12:36,980 --> 01:12:38,570 this was a runaround in other words in 1509 01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:42,769 my view the Defense Department sent me 1510 01:12:42,769 --> 01:12:44,900 to another agency on my request 1511 01:12:44,900 --> 01:12:46,820 knowing that agency would not have any 1512 01:12:46,820 --> 01:12:48,800 information 1513 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,300 evidently former director of the FBI 1514 01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:54,420 j.edgar hoover was also denied access as 1515 01:12:54,420 --> 01:12:57,060 he stated in his own handwriting in July 1516 01:12:57,060 --> 01:13:01,170 of 1947 we must insist upon full access 1517 01:13:01,170 --> 01:13:04,560 to disks recovered Hoover continued the 1518 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,270 army grabbed it and wouldn't let the 1519 01:13:06,270 --> 01:13:10,040 Bureau have it for cursory examination 1520 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:17,580 we will stand against the forces the 1521 01:13:17,580 --> 01:13:19,470 more recent inquiry was apparently made 1522 01:13:19,470 --> 01:13:22,020 by President Bill Clinton let us stand 1523 01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:23,580 up and talk against it 1524 01:13:23,580 --> 01:13:25,320 he asked associate attorney general 1525 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,400 webster hubbell to investigate web 1526 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:30,960 Hubbell and Bill Clinton were old 1527 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,590 friends in his book friends in high 1528 01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:37,110 places Hubbell recalls a special favor 1529 01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:38,940 that President Clinton made after he 1530 01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:45,450 first came into office Webb he said if I 1531 01:13:45,450 --> 01:13:47,370 put you over at justice I want you to 1532 01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:48,600 find out the answers to two questions 1533 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,470 for me one who killed JFK and two are 1534 01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:56,100 there UFOs he was dead serious Hubbell 1535 01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:57,840 had looked into both but wasn't 1536 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,520 satisfied with the answers he was 1537 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,510 getting when we asked mr. Hubbell about 1538 01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:08,430 this incident he replied recall anything 1539 01:14:08,430 --> 01:14:21,090 further at this point we contacted 1540 01:14:21,090 --> 01:14:23,160 President Bill Clinton and received this 1541 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,430 letter it is a response from NASA 1542 01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:28,140 stating that no government agency is 1543 01:14:28,140 --> 01:14:30,030 currently responsible for investigating 1544 01:14:30,030 --> 01:14:32,820 UFOs because there is no factual 1545 01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:35,550 evidence that alien life exists on other 1546 01:14:35,550 --> 01:14:39,000 planets or that UFOs are related to 1547 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,880 aliens see this is what you'll be up 1548 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,980 against who you gonna see the moment you 1549 01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:45,810 go see somebody so we can't tell you 1550 01:14:45,810 --> 01:14:46,500 it's top secret 1551 01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:48,480 what are you gonna do you have to walk 1552 01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:50,520 out so you see how the government 1553 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,000 operates how they can you say you should 1554 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,290 go there an answer who you going to go 1555 01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:58,080 to even as what the experience I have 1556 01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,460 been on top of the government all the 1557 01:14:59,460 --> 01:15:03,680 years I couldn't tell you to go see 1558 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,790 Paris 1999 the most important UFO study 1559 01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:15,610 in recent decades is made public this 1560 01:15:15,610 --> 01:15:17,620 was presented to the President and Prime 1561 01:15:17,620 --> 01:15:20,080 Minister of France urging diplomatic 1562 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,450 action with the US through the European 1563 01:15:22,450 --> 01:15:25,480 Union the report was compiled by the 1564 01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:27,850 committee group which investigated over 1565 01:15:27,850 --> 01:15:31,270 500 UFO cases from around the world this 1566 01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:33,910 report which came from a high-level 1567 01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:35,860 group of French military officers 1568 01:15:35,860 --> 01:15:38,170 primarily as well as some scientists is 1569 01:15:38,170 --> 01:15:42,940 the most strongly worded Pro UFO 1570 01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:44,980 document ever written in any language 1571 01:15:44,980 --> 01:15:47,650 that has been made public by a group of 1572 01:15:47,650 --> 01:15:51,700 this stature the kinetic group consists 1573 01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:53,530 of generals and admirals of the French 1574 01:15:53,530 --> 01:15:56,380 military as well as top-level scientists 1575 01:15:56,380 --> 01:15:59,440 such as Andre LeBeau director of CNES 1576 01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:02,739 the French equivalent of NASA general 1577 01:16:02,739 --> 01:16:03,940 Bernard Norland 1578 01:16:03,940 --> 01:16:05,800 former commander French tactical Air 1579 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,370 Force and jean-claude Reeb the former 1580 01:16:09,370 --> 01:16:11,260 director of the observatory at Lyon 1581 01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:14,050 France the title of the report is UFOs 1582 01:16:14,050 --> 01:16:18,130 and defense what must we prepare for now 1583 01:16:18,130 --> 01:16:20,200 it's 92 pages of text 1584 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,719 after that title the committee group 1585 01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:25,030 received data collected by numerous 1586 01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:27,820 scientific agencies much of its content 1587 01:16:27,820 --> 01:16:29,980 was based on reports from military and 1588 01:16:29,980 --> 01:16:32,680 civilian pilots this official document 1589 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,960 was an internal military investigation 1590 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,060 that was never intended for the general 1591 01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:41,230 public the report also contains a 1592 01:16:41,230 --> 01:16:44,100 selection of photographs 1593 01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:46,670 these photos were subjected to 1594 01:16:46,670 --> 01:16:48,710 scientific analysis in an effort to 1595 01:16:48,710 --> 01:16:51,730 determine authenticity 1596 01:17:04,110 --> 01:17:06,940 Kumada also examined physical evidence 1597 01:17:06,940 --> 01:17:09,520 such as plant and soil samples taken 1598 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,030 from alleged landing sites one such case 1599 01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:16,390 occurred on January 8th 1981 in southern 1600 01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:19,900 France there was only a single witness 1601 01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:23,370 to that event he was working in his 1602 01:17:23,370 --> 01:17:28,150 small farm late one afternoon he heard a 1603 01:17:28,150 --> 01:17:30,640 whistling sound he looked up and just 1604 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,920 above the trees was this strange craft 1605 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,010 it descended and landed 30 feet away in 1606 01:17:36,010 --> 01:17:42,520 his garden the former city suppose it 1607 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,150 was yet notice wrote he told his wife 1608 01:17:46,150 --> 01:17:48,040 about an evening and she thought he was 1609 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:53,290 joking they went back in the morning to 1610 01:17:53,290 --> 01:17:55,270 look up the area and they found traces 1611 01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:58,560 on the ground say ccleaner Rhonda 1612 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,550 commenting on comments have you been a 1613 01:18:00,550 --> 01:18:02,860 delayed by Mile Island Cooper buku buku 1614 01:18:02,860 --> 01:18:07,930 this one they see scientists came out in 1615 01:18:07,930 --> 01:18:12,180 a week or two and they took further 1616 01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:15,700 samples of soils they also took samples 1617 01:18:15,700 --> 01:18:18,790 of plants and the analysis of the soil 1618 01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:20,410 and plants was very interesting there 1619 01:18:20,410 --> 01:18:22,620 carried out quite professionally and 1620 01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:25,450 there was evidence of compression of the 1621 01:18:25,450 --> 01:18:28,420 soil and there was a clear evidence of 1622 01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:31,360 damage to the plants the kind of injury 1623 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,360 that could happen because of heating due 1624 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,150 to microwaves for instance so there was 1625 01:18:37,150 --> 01:18:38,950 good physical evidence in that case and 1626 01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:40,600 moreover there were two kinds of 1627 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,230 physical evidence injury damage to soil 1628 01:18:43,230 --> 01:18:45,100 damage to plants 1629 01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,470 despite the physical evidence the small 1630 01:18:47,470 --> 01:18:49,960 town of TransAm province labeled the 1631 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,110 farmer as a flying saucer fanatic Papa 1632 01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:55,150 Dirac Institute has a Cooper voluntary 1633 01:18:55,150 --> 01:19:02,770 City he suppose a very but a number of 1634 01:19:02,770 --> 01:19:05,140 cases analyzed by the comater group came 1635 01:19:05,140 --> 01:19:07,750 from military pilots involved in UFO 1636 01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:10,350 incidents 1637 01:19:10,849 --> 01:19:13,190 one of the most dramatic cases occurred 1638 01:19:13,190 --> 01:19:16,849 in September of 1976 when a phantom f-4 1639 01:19:16,849 --> 01:19:19,130 jet flown by a pilot from the Iranian 1640 01:19:19,130 --> 01:19:21,199 Royal Air Force attempted to fire a 1641 01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:26,480 missile at a UFO in the same instant the 1642 01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:28,969 pilots fire Control Council and radio 1643 01:19:28,969 --> 01:19:34,940 went dead at this point a smaller craft 1644 01:19:34,940 --> 01:19:37,489 emerged from the main UFO and circled 1645 01:19:37,489 --> 01:19:42,739 around the jet the pilot then took 1646 01:19:42,739 --> 01:19:45,050 evasive action and power to his controls 1647 01:19:45,050 --> 01:19:49,270 returned he escaped unharmed 1648 01:19:49,599 --> 01:19:53,320 in this report they say in effect UFOs 1649 01:19:53,320 --> 01:20:01,440 are real ergo the extra-terrestrial 1650 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:04,060 hypothesis may in some cases be the best 1651 01:20:04,060 --> 01:20:07,810 or only real answer and cannot be 1652 01:20:07,810 --> 01:20:10,199 ignored 1653 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:15,010 they are technological they do things 1654 01:20:15,010 --> 01:20:23,020 that we probably can't do and all that 1655 01:20:23,020 --> 01:20:26,440 being said this obviously constitutes a 1656 01:20:26,440 --> 01:20:30,250 major concern for global defence and 1657 01:20:30,250 --> 01:20:32,889 security when the report was completed 1658 01:20:32,889 --> 01:20:34,780 it was given to a number of leading 1659 01:20:34,780 --> 01:20:37,000 French journalists one of these was 1660 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,230 Vinod - Nell the editor of VSD VSD is a 1661 01:20:41,230 --> 01:20:44,500 French weekly magazine like time-life we 1662 01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:48,219 are a general press publication it's not 1663 01:20:48,219 --> 01:20:50,949 specialized in UFO sightings at all the 1664 01:20:50,949 --> 01:20:53,349 committee group allowed VSD to publish 1665 01:20:53,349 --> 01:20:55,030 the report provided it was not 1666 01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:58,119 manipulated in any way if the public was 1667 01:20:58,119 --> 01:21:00,940 aware of the committee report then the 1668 01:21:00,940 --> 01:21:02,739 committee report was not going to 1669 01:21:02,739 --> 01:21:06,010 disappear and any kind of official or 1670 01:21:06,010 --> 01:21:08,699 semi official a dark hole so to speak 1671 01:21:08,699 --> 01:21:11,530 then the committee report became a 1672 01:21:11,530 --> 01:21:14,290 public fact and its remains a public 1673 01:21:14,290 --> 01:21:18,130 fact to date the report has not been 1674 01:21:18,130 --> 01:21:20,079 officially published outside of France 1675 01:21:20,079 --> 01:21:24,130 and so far only one article published in 1676 01:21:24,130 --> 01:21:26,500 The Boston Globe has appeared in the US 1677 01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:28,780 press I applied a very high standard to 1678 01:21:28,780 --> 01:21:30,909 the story because of its controversial 1679 01:21:30,909 --> 01:21:31,690 nature 1680 01:21:31,690 --> 01:21:33,909 I was basically retelling what the 1681 01:21:33,909 --> 01:21:35,020 generals and the other people like 1682 01:21:35,020 --> 01:21:36,639 included in their report I looked at 1683 01:21:36,639 --> 01:21:38,230 government documents that dealt with the 1684 01:21:38,230 --> 01:21:40,360 issue of national security and UFOs 1685 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,369 which was what the generals were dealing 1686 01:21:42,369 --> 01:21:45,010 with in France despite her thoroughness 1687 01:21:45,010 --> 01:21:47,409 Leslie Kane encountered much resistance 1688 01:21:47,409 --> 01:21:50,020 in getting the story published I went to 1689 01:21:50,020 --> 01:21:51,880 many papers many of whom I published 1690 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,590 with in the past people laughed hung up 1691 01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:55,300 the phone the subject matter is 1692 01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:57,460 ridiculed in the media and so even 1693 01:21:57,460 --> 01:21:58,869 though I was dealing with facts in this 1694 01:21:58,869 --> 01:22:02,020 article and high level journalism they 1695 01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:03,400 weren't interested because of the sub 1696 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,200 matter this was very really really 1697 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:06,790 frustrating because I thought this was 1698 01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:08,920 an extremely important story and I know 1699 01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,170 that it was newsworthy most Americans 1700 01:22:11,170 --> 01:22:13,620 have never heard of it the group hasn't 1701 01:22:13,620 --> 01:22:15,910 published an English translation that 1702 01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:19,840 anybody can get ahold of and they seem 1703 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,620 to be on the trail of saying hey you 1704 01:22:23,620 --> 01:22:25,600 Americans you're holding back technology 1705 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,220 that you've learned from flying saucers 1706 01:22:27,220 --> 01:22:29,620 from your allies so that's a message to 1707 01:22:29,620 --> 01:22:31,720 the Pentagon not to the public they know 1708 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,910 the Pentagon knows through people so 1709 01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:35,680 it's an important report for what it 1710 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,700 says no other report with names with 1711 01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:42,040 people with excellent cases this is not 1712 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,220 anonymous reporting now has come close 1713 01:22:45,220 --> 01:22:47,710 to taking a strongest stand that some 1714 01:22:47,710 --> 01:22:49,990 UFOs are extraterrestrial spacecraft I 1715 01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:52,800 think it's time to open the books on 1716 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,060 questions that have remained in the dark 1717 01:22:55,060 --> 01:22:57,580 and the question of government 1718 01:22:57,580 --> 01:23:02,110 investigations of UFOs it's time to find 1719 01:23:02,110 --> 01:23:04,660 out what what the truth really is that's 1720 01:23:04,660 --> 01:23:07,180 out there we ought to do it really 1721 01:23:07,180 --> 01:23:09,430 because it's right we ought to do it 1722 01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:11,440 because the American people quite 1723 01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:14,020 frankly can handle the truth and we 1724 01:23:14,020 --> 01:23:17,910 ought to do it because it's the law 1725 01:23:25,090 --> 01:23:28,219 it was it was shaped like a saucer I 1726 01:23:28,219 --> 01:23:30,590 hate to use those trite terms but that's 1727 01:23:30,590 --> 01:23:32,539 what it was shaped like I looked up and 1728 01:23:32,539 --> 01:23:35,679 all of a sudden there was this you know 1729 01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:39,650 gotta say it lying saucer you know kind 1730 01:23:39,650 --> 01:23:42,500 of looking like it was not particularly 1731 01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:45,440 far above us if you look at that tree 1732 01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,929 limb it seems to me that when it floated 1733 01:23:47,929 --> 01:23:50,719 across the road it was just about that 1734 01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:52,520 far away you saw that it was actually 1735 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:57,800 moving but that was nothing we we had at 1736 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,710 the time could could fit the description 1737 01:24:00,710 --> 01:24:07,599 size shape or performance of this crap 1738 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,840 often in reliable UFO cases the official 1739 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,850 explanation is more unbelievable than 1740 01:24:19,850 --> 01:24:23,240 the event itself I had the evidence that 1741 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:48,890 the crash did happen here people say 1742 01:24:48,890 --> 01:24:51,500 Mike now you saw b-2 bomber my response 1743 01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:53,300 was we could land all 40 of our b-2 1744 01:24:53,300 --> 01:25:00,050 bombers on the wing of that craft what 1745 01:25:00,050 --> 01:25:03,970 we saw out there was definitely 1746 01:25:03,970 --> 01:25:13,280 unidentifiable there is a serious 1747 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,260 possibility that we are being visited 1748 01:25:15,260 --> 01:25:18,650 and have been visited for many years by 1749 01:25:18,650 --> 01:25:21,880 people from outer space from other 1750 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,490 civilizations that it behooves us in 1751 01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:27,680 case some of these people in the future 1752 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,770 or now should turn hostile to find out 1753 01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:33,050 who they are where they come from and 1754 01:25:33,050 --> 01:25:35,630 what they want well if the cancer treat 1755 01:25:35,630 --> 01:25:39,560 believed yes there have been et 1756 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,400 visitation there have been crashed craft 1757 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,430 there have been material and bodies 1758 01:25:46,430 --> 01:25:50,180 recovered and there is some group of 1759 01:25:50,180 --> 01:25:55,100 people somewhere that may or may not be 1760 01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:57,350 associated with government at this point 1761 01:25:57,350 --> 01:26:00,410 but certainly were at one time that had 1762 01:26:00,410 --> 01:26:02,870 this knowledge the thing you have to 1763 01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:04,520 remember is that absolute power corrupts 1764 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,780 absolutely 1765 01:26:05,780 --> 01:26:07,370 when you've got the knowledge and the 1766 01:26:07,370 --> 01:26:09,260 budget nobody looking over your shoulder 1767 01:26:09,260 --> 01:26:11,510 it's a great temptation to think that 1768 01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:13,460 you know best like with the public they 1769 01:26:13,460 --> 01:26:14,840 don't know enough they have a sensible 1770 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:15,469 opinion 1771 01:26:15,469 --> 01:26:19,760 that's unfortunate yakking away here 1772 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:24,050 Mitchell Eric the eponymous Lou Boyle 1773 01:26:24,050 --> 01:26:25,940 provisions for an Iranian national 1774 01:26:25,940 --> 01:26:27,949 Tara's matter it as the stoic Audrina 1775 01:26:27,949 --> 01:26:30,290 who what she wanted every need you have 1776 01:26:30,290 --> 01:26:32,390 a year never show the preemie neat work 1777 01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:34,670 toaster how many people bring a suit at 1778 01:26:34,670 --> 01:26:36,469 the inner planet anything but the caddy 1779 01:26:36,469 --> 01:26:38,750 delete ski deployed since the subject is 1780 01:26:38,750 --> 01:26:41,980 clearly of great interest Republic I 1781 01:26:41,980 --> 01:26:44,719 think that the senator community owes 1782 01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:47,300 its the public to really pay attention 1783 01:26:47,300 --> 01:26:51,219 to the subject and make a thorough 1784 01:26:51,219 --> 01:26:54,050 extensive and careful investigation and 1785 01:26:54,050 --> 01:26:56,840 then share with the public whatever they 1786 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,180 find a story this big there's no way it 1787 01:26:59,180 --> 01:27:00,949 can be kept secret from the public what 1788 01:27:00,949 --> 01:27:02,540 do you say to someone like that it says 1789 01:27:02,540 --> 01:27:04,790 that well somebody's kept a pretty 1790 01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:11,690 cigarette for quite a while and if 1791 01:27:11,690 --> 01:27:14,030 structured craft of unknown origin are 1792 01:27:14,030 --> 01:27:16,580 penetrating our skies the people best 1793 01:27:16,580 --> 01:27:18,620 equipped to know are the military and we 1794 01:27:18,620 --> 01:27:19,550 will provide you with all the 1795 01:27:19,550 --> 01:27:22,489 information that you need numerous 1796 01:27:22,489 --> 01:27:24,290 military witnesses are prepared to 1797 01:27:24,290 --> 01:27:26,630 testify in great detail but need 1798 01:27:26,630 --> 01:27:28,719 immunity from their security oaths 1799 01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:31,160 Congress is currently being lobbied to 1800 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,989 provide a platform for such testimony 1801 01:27:37,810 --> 01:27:40,430 the discovery that we are being visited 1802 01:27:40,430 --> 01:27:43,310 by extraterrestrials would be one of the 1803 01:27:43,310 --> 01:27:45,830 greatest in human history such a 1804 01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:47,930 discovery would profoundly alter the 1805 01:27:47,930 --> 01:27:51,170 perception of ourselves and our place in 1806 01:27:51,170 --> 01:27:53,350 the universe 1807 01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,280 next on Syfy crossing over with John 1808 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,969 Edward on the next all new sci-fi Friday 1809 01:28:04,969 --> 01:28:06,710 first its tremors 1810 01:28:06,710 --> 01:28:08,210 I got pressing business with this 1811 01:28:08,210 --> 01:28:10,190 creation of yours is wrong with you 1812 01:28:10,190 --> 01:28:10,760 people 1813 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:20,180 followed by Stargate sg-1 hosted by 1814 01:28:20,180 --> 01:28:26,140 Shannon sci-fi Channel original series 1815 01:28:26,140 --> 01:28:29,960 tremors Stargate sg-1 and scare tactics 1816 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,710 all new Friday starting at 8 by creating 1817 01:28:33,710 --> 01:28:36,290 this rift in the fabric of time I 1818 01:28:36,290 --> 01:28:38,780 allowed a darkness to enter the spider 1819 01:28:38,780 --> 01:28:43,219 freeze a new event the sci-fi pictures 1820 01:28:43,219 --> 01:28:46,400 original webs premieres Saturday at 9:00 1821 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,600 on Syfy 131644

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