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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,445 2 00:00:05,445 --> 00:00:07,425 [MUSIC PLAYING] 3 00:00:07,425 --> 00:00:20,330 4 00:00:20,330 --> 00:00:23,440 >> The story of psilocybin, or commonly known as magic 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,040 mushrooms, is a long and controversial one. 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,910 Because of Hollywood, Disney films, and word of mouth, 7 00:00:30,910 --> 00:00:35,080 psychedelic mushrooms have been given a serious reputation. 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,770 Are they drugs? 9 00:00:36,770 --> 00:00:38,660 Are they medicine? 10 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:40,540 Are they safe? 11 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:43,090 Are they keys to heaven or hell? 12 00:00:43,090 --> 00:00:45,400 Let's put the rumors aside and investigate 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,830 what we know to date. 14 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:50,560 It has been suggested that because psilocybin mushrooms 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,830 most commonly grew in droppings of cattle 16 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:56,110 and these animals have been revered and followed 17 00:00:56,110 --> 00:00:59,600 by many humans and religions for thousands of years, 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,110 it is unlikely that our ancestors disregarded 19 00:01:02,110 --> 00:01:04,239 these mushrooms and ignored experiencing 20 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,620 their mind-bending effects. 21 00:01:07,620 --> 00:01:10,660 What exactly is the mysterious world of the magic mushroom 22 00:01:10,660 --> 00:01:12,390 experience? 23 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:15,970 What is the latest scientific research showing us? 24 00:01:15,970 --> 00:01:19,600 What are the most cutting edge and cultural uses of them? 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,500 And what might they be trying to teach us? 26 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,660 These strange beings have been speculated 27 00:01:25,660 --> 00:01:28,720 to predate the human race. 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,240 They may be able to survive intergalactic space 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,460 travel and even volatile entry into Earth's atmosphere, 30 00:01:36,460 --> 00:01:40,930 floating from unknown distances to our planet, our species, 31 00:01:40,930 --> 00:01:41,875 and into our minds. 32 00:01:41,875 --> 00:01:44,650 33 00:01:44,650 --> 00:01:49,000 Mushroom species outnumber plant species 10 to 1, 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,340 and their mycelia spreads far and wide 35 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:55,220 under the Earth to connect with, communicate to, and integrate 36 00:01:55,220 --> 00:01:58,240 a fractal web across many life forms. 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,430 Terence McKenna wrote from the perspective 38 00:02:00,430 --> 00:02:03,670 of the mushroom in the book "Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom 39 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:08,229 Growers Guide," "I am old, older than thought 40 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:11,650 in your species, which is itself 50 times older 41 00:02:11,650 --> 00:02:13,810 than your history. 42 00:02:13,810 --> 00:02:18,280 Though I have been on Earth for ages, I am from the stars. 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,560 My home is no one planet. 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,930 From many worlds scattered through the shining 45 00:02:22,930 --> 00:02:25,180 disk of the galaxy have conditions 46 00:02:25,180 --> 00:02:28,630 which allow my spores an opportunity for life." 47 00:02:28,630 --> 00:02:31,300 His brother, ethnobotanist Dennis McKenna, 48 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:35,365 traces this mysterious spore's historical use. 49 00:02:35,365 --> 00:02:38,710 >> The mushrooms were used in Mexico, 50 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:42,640 the psilocybin mushrooms by the Aztecs, the Mayans, 51 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:46,640 and probably the Mazatecs, and even older cultures. 52 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:49,150 So that's the epicenter of the use 53 00:02:49,150 --> 00:02:54,210 of these Psilocybe cubensis, which grows on cow dung 54 00:02:54,210 --> 00:02:57,160 and is a globally distributed mushroom. 55 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,300 They'll show up pretty much in any pasture in the tropics 56 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:03,250 where you have cattle. 57 00:03:03,250 --> 00:03:07,750 So they had to be around for millions of years, 58 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:10,780 you know, or many hundreds of thousands of years, 59 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:16,640 probably in proximity to human civilizations 60 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:20,590 or nomadic tribes, if they had cattle. 61 00:03:20,590 --> 00:03:24,700 But then we also know there's evidence 62 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:29,750 they were used in Europe and probably in South America, 63 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:32,680 maybe in Africa, maybe in Asia. 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,540 So how long have they been used? 65 00:03:34,540 --> 00:03:35,830 There's no way to know. 66 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:39,790 But I would like to think they'd been used a very long time. 67 00:03:39,790 --> 00:03:41,230 [MUSIC PLAYING] 68 00:03:41,230 --> 00:03:44,170 >> Because most of the classical psychedelics require human 69 00:03:44,170 --> 00:03:47,020 intervention, psilocybin mushrooms were probably 70 00:03:47,020 --> 00:03:49,210 the first psychedelic to be discovered, 71 00:03:49,210 --> 00:03:53,370 as they grew anywhere in the tropics or subtropical climates 72 00:03:53,370 --> 00:03:56,320 and would appear sprouting from the droppings of large animals 73 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,420 like cows. 74 00:03:58,420 --> 00:04:01,120 They could stand as much as a foot tall with a cap 75 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,930 the size of a dinner plate. 76 00:04:03,930 --> 00:04:06,330 It's likely that the first wave of experiences 77 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:08,100 with eating these mushrooms would 78 00:04:08,100 --> 00:04:12,080 have made the individual think that they had been poisoned. 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,750 But after a while, the phenomena would likely 80 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:18,140 have been seen as divine, otherworldly, and, quite 81 00:04:18,140 --> 00:04:21,680 possibly, an experience with death and rebirth, 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,970 a resurrection of the psyche. 83 00:04:24,970 --> 00:04:26,890 When the Spanish conquistadors spread 84 00:04:26,890 --> 00:04:30,560 through present-day Mexico exploring new lands, 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,740 they encountered many indigenous groups 86 00:04:32,740 --> 00:04:35,730 practicing peculiar rituals. 87 00:04:35,730 --> 00:04:39,900 The 16th century Aztec statue of Xochipilli 88 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:42,360 was found in Southern Mexico with engravings 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,640 of sacred psychoactive plants like tobacco, Morning Glory, 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,860 along with several other flowers, 91 00:04:49,860 --> 00:04:53,280 and the Psilocybe aztecorum mushrooms. 92 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,920 Maya archaeologist Stephen De Borhegyi 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,410 believed that hallucinogenic mushroom rituals 94 00:04:58,410 --> 00:05:00,870 were central to Maya religions. 95 00:05:00,870 --> 00:05:02,640 The mushroom stones of the Guatemalan 96 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,920 highlands date to at least 1,000 BC 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,550 and are believed to have been used to honor and grind 98 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:12,280 the dried mushrooms before use. 99 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:14,400 There are some that believe that these mushrooms, 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,040 or the ergot fungus that grew on barley, 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,480 were used in the Eleusinian Mystery's fabled Kykeon brew. 102 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,490 >> The question is, what were they offering to these people 103 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:27,270 that they kept the attention of the antique world for 2000 104 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:28,070 years? 105 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:29,640 It's a long time. 106 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,190 I mean, fads come and go. 107 00:05:32,190 --> 00:05:34,840 But what they were doing was quite-- 108 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:39,960 not quite clear until Albert Hoffman discovered LSD. 109 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,290 Steve Gordon Wasson, who brought the Mexican magic mushrooms 110 00:05:43,290 --> 00:05:48,300 from the Mazatec culture and Carl Ruck, a Greek scholar. 111 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:52,320 They spent several years, very, very meticulous research, 112 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,100 and they came to the conclusion that the key was a beverage, 113 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:58,623 sacred beverage, which was called Kykeon, 114 00:05:58,623 --> 00:06:04,770 K-Y-K-E-O-N that was administered in a very critical 115 00:06:04,770 --> 00:06:07,290 part of the ceremony. 116 00:06:07,290 --> 00:06:12,840 >> These mysterious events spanned from 1,600 BC to 392 AD 117 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:16,820 until Theodosius I closed the sanctuaries. 118 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:19,560 The exact recipe has never been found, 119 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,140 and the last remaining hints of the mystery school 120 00:06:22,140 --> 00:06:24,990 was demolished by King Alaric of the Goths, 121 00:06:24,990 --> 00:06:29,490 who brought a Christian invasion to destroy the old sites. 122 00:06:29,490 --> 00:06:31,980 This invasion was the beginning of a long reign 123 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:34,290 of the new religion in town, forbidding 124 00:06:34,290 --> 00:06:37,530 the use of plant sacraments. 125 00:06:37,530 --> 00:06:41,550 Now, fast forward to 1955. 126 00:06:41,550 --> 00:06:44,880 R. Gordon Wasson, who is an amateur mycologist and banker 127 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,330 to JP Morgan, made his way to Sierra Mazateca 128 00:06:48,330 --> 00:06:53,430 in Southern Mexico to visit a curandera named Maria Sabina. 129 00:06:53,430 --> 00:06:56,190 In this shamanic village, Sabina was 130 00:06:56,190 --> 00:07:01,180 known for healing her community with powerful mushroom rituals. 131 00:07:01,180 --> 00:07:03,400 She agreed to welcome Wasson into one 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,460 of the rituals in good faith that he could take pictures, 133 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:09,490 but none were allowed to be published. 134 00:07:09,490 --> 00:07:13,030 This was to maintain the sacred space of those being healed 135 00:07:13,030 --> 00:07:15,340 and to protect the village from outsiders knowing 136 00:07:15,340 --> 00:07:17,960 too much of their rituals. 137 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,260 So Wasson agreed and proceeded to take 138 00:07:20,260 --> 00:07:23,350 private pictures of Maria Sabina calling in the mushroom 139 00:07:23,350 --> 00:07:26,100 spirits for healing. 140 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:29,040 >> She said the spirits in the mushrooms, the ninos, 141 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,450 little children, were the ones that she worked with in concert 142 00:07:32,450 --> 00:07:35,860 with the mushroom entities for healing for her patients. 143 00:07:35,860 --> 00:07:39,800 So, Gordon Wasson went down, and had a photographer, 144 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,980 and had a team of people, and published this in 1957, 145 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:46,880 a hit in "Life Magazine" in 1957 and then 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,690 got into every home in middle America 147 00:07:50,690 --> 00:07:55,100 and basically initiated the psychedelic '60s in '57 148 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:57,460 by telling people that this mushroom existed 149 00:07:57,460 --> 00:07:59,890 in New Mexico, which altered consciousness and had 150 00:07:59,890 --> 00:08:01,610 this shamanic lineage. 151 00:08:01,610 --> 00:08:05,270 >> On May 13, 1957, "Life Magazine" 152 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:08,780 published Wasson's photographs, and the story of the mushroom 153 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:12,230 rituals swept through the Western world. 154 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:15,110 Flocks of Americans began to flood this small town 155 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:17,690 in search of the most mind-expanding experience they 156 00:08:17,690 --> 00:08:19,760 could find. 157 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,660 Sabina was reported as saying, it doesn't work in this way. 158 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:25,250 The spirits of the mushrooms helped 159 00:08:25,250 --> 00:08:28,460 to heal humanity from illness instead of introducing them 160 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:29,540 to God. 161 00:08:29,540 --> 00:08:31,790 But by this point, the Western world 162 00:08:31,790 --> 00:08:33,710 was hypnotized by the claims being 163 00:08:33,710 --> 00:08:37,190 made about these mushrooms, and shortly thereafter, 164 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:42,620 the university studies began, but not without pushback. 165 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:44,480 >> There is nothing smart. 166 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,400 There's nothing grown up or sophisticated in taking an LSD 167 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,220 trip at all. 168 00:08:50,220 --> 00:08:53,210 They're just being complete fools. 169 00:08:53,210 --> 00:08:56,810 >> Don't you feel that it's wrong to encourage the use 170 00:08:56,810 --> 00:08:59,410 of these illegal drugs by college students. 171 00:08:59,410 --> 00:09:01,520 This is, in effect, admitting encouraging 172 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,917 the breaking of the law? 173 00:09:02,917 --> 00:09:05,900 >> Well, I never tell anyone what to do with their body 174 00:09:05,900 --> 00:09:09,190 because what we're talking about here is the first and last 175 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:12,580 frontier of freedom, my body. 176 00:09:12,580 --> 00:09:15,730 >> Timothy Leary was a part of the original psilocybin studies 177 00:09:15,730 --> 00:09:18,260 at Harvard University. 178 00:09:18,260 --> 00:09:21,320 40 years after these studies and after the prohibition 179 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,260 of psychedelics finally loosened, 180 00:09:24,260 --> 00:09:26,990 professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences 181 00:09:26,990 --> 00:09:31,250 at Johns Hopkins University, Dr. Roland Griffiths, 182 00:09:31,250 --> 00:09:35,060 took up psilocybin research once more. 183 00:09:35,060 --> 00:09:40,520 >> We began our studies in 2000, and I initiated my interest 184 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,700 in this because I had taken a meditation practice up, 185 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:49,520 and I was interested in shifts in states of consciousness. 186 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,360 I was actually skeptical about the idea 187 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,020 that psilocybin could produce deeply 188 00:09:57,020 --> 00:10:00,860 spiritually-significant, mystical-type experiences. 189 00:10:00,860 --> 00:10:06,620 But indeed, the data spoke very clearly to us that it could. 190 00:10:06,620 --> 00:10:10,850 So we did choose psilocybin, I think thoughtfully. 191 00:10:10,850 --> 00:10:13,670 192 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:16,340 One is that most people at the time we initiated 193 00:10:16,340 --> 00:10:19,310 this work couldn't spell psilocybin, 194 00:10:19,310 --> 00:10:23,210 didn't quite know what it was, and it certainly 195 00:10:23,210 --> 00:10:29,340 didn't have the cultural baggage that LSD did. 196 00:10:29,340 --> 00:10:34,470 So LSD and mescaline have very long duration of action, 197 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:38,090 more on the order of 12 hours as opposed 198 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:42,440 to psilocybin, which is four to six hours. 199 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,560 So that makes it a much more tractable compound 200 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:48,530 to work with in a clinical setting. 201 00:10:48,530 --> 00:10:53,240 DMT, on the other hand, is very short acting and can also 202 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:58,430 be given with an MAO inhibitor. 203 00:10:58,430 --> 00:11:02,540 >> An MAO inhibitor makes DMT last four to six hours. 204 00:11:02,540 --> 00:11:05,180 But the pharmacology is more complex and difficult 205 00:11:05,180 --> 00:11:07,670 to receive approval from the FDA. 206 00:11:07,670 --> 00:11:10,310 However, psilocybin produces similar results 207 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:12,150 with far less complexity. 208 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:15,380 >> The psilocybin molecule and the DMT molecule are very 209 00:11:15,380 --> 00:11:19,880 closely related to one another. 210 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,760 In a sense, psilocybin can be rightly described 211 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,970 as orally-active DMT because DMT is not normally orally active. 212 00:11:28,970 --> 00:11:31,620 >> Even though the molecules are very similar, 213 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:34,580 the mind-expanding experiences aren't as similar as it would 214 00:11:34,580 --> 00:11:36,160 seem. 215 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,990 Each psychedelic molecule, called a tryptamine, 216 00:11:38,990 --> 00:11:41,180 is structured in a very specific way 217 00:11:41,180 --> 00:11:44,550 to trigger specific neurotransmitters in the brain, 218 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:48,480 causing every psychedelic plant to elicit different effects. 219 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,750 And it all depends upon the neurotransmitters 220 00:11:50,750 --> 00:11:53,540 that the substances play on. 221 00:11:53,540 --> 00:11:57,500 Serotonin mimicking is the hallmark of psychedelica. 222 00:11:57,500 --> 00:11:59,600 Serotonin allows human consciousness 223 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,360 to assemble the consensus reality that we typically 224 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,250 inhabit, and it even forges our sense of self and identity, 225 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:10,280 and psilocybin mushrooms break down the rigid perceptions 226 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,150 of normal waking consciousness. 227 00:12:13,150 --> 00:12:17,780 >> Psilocybin appears acutely to decrease activity within 228 00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:22,760 a certain network of brain hubs called the default mode 229 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,200 network. 230 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:30,110 And that network is very active under conditions of vigilance 231 00:12:30,110 --> 00:12:34,730 and depression, and it's deactivated 232 00:12:34,730 --> 00:12:39,170 when people are, for instance, long-term meditators. 233 00:12:39,170 --> 00:12:43,880 And it's thought that that area is somehow 234 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,140 tied up in with respect to self-referential processing, 235 00:12:48,140 --> 00:12:50,360 a sense of self. 236 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,420 It turns out that psilocybin decreases 237 00:12:53,420 --> 00:12:56,630 default mode networking or functioning much 238 00:12:56,630 --> 00:13:00,350 as the same way that meditation decreases 239 00:13:00,350 --> 00:13:03,440 activity in that brain center. 240 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,530 And that brain center happens to be activated in depression. 241 00:13:07,530 --> 00:13:11,780 So that might account for anti-depressant effects 242 00:13:11,780 --> 00:13:14,090 of psilocybin. 243 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:17,180 >> The fact that brain imaging is now showing similar results 244 00:13:17,180 --> 00:13:20,330 between the benefits of psilocybin and meditation has 245 00:13:20,330 --> 00:13:23,660 not only confirmed what Tim Leary, Richard Alpert, 246 00:13:23,660 --> 00:13:26,360 and Ralph Metzner were looking for in the original Harvard 247 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,390 studies, it seems to lend to the healing properties of ancient 248 00:13:30,390 --> 00:13:34,340 shamanic tribes as well. 249 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:37,760 For the experiences met within the psilocybin trip 250 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,970 are seen by spiritual adepts to be mere glimpses 251 00:13:40,970 --> 00:13:43,850 into the higher domains. 252 00:13:43,850 --> 00:13:46,140 They are not necessary to get us there. 253 00:13:46,140 --> 00:13:48,110 And if done irresponsibly, they will 254 00:13:48,110 --> 00:13:50,390 atrophy our inner faculties that allow 255 00:13:50,390 --> 00:13:54,270 us to achieve these states without these substances. 256 00:13:54,270 --> 00:13:56,300 So the judicious use of psychedelics 257 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:59,510 are seen by many to be merely the reminder that these states 258 00:13:59,510 --> 00:14:02,240 exist, that inner healing is possible, 259 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,580 that human consciousness is not static, 260 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:06,740 but an ever-evolving phenomena. 261 00:14:06,740 --> 00:14:09,900 Therefore, long-term meditators and psilocybin volunteers 262 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:13,310 at Johns Hopkins are tapping into their own neurology 263 00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:17,180 and disrupting the inner identity that is unwell. 264 00:14:17,180 --> 00:14:19,670 What does it mean that de-stabilizing people's sense 265 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:22,760 of self can be useful in healing? 266 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,000 Is it because human illness lies in our beliefs about ourselves 267 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,910 and how we fit into the world around us? 268 00:14:28,910 --> 00:14:32,412 Why are the same effects seen in long-term meditators? 269 00:14:32,412 --> 00:14:37,120 >> They are fundamentally re-organizational experiences 270 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:42,520 that people describe as having a sense of interconnectedness 271 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,920 of all people and things, a sense of sacredness, 272 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,350 a truth value and authenticity to the experience that they 273 00:14:50,350 --> 00:14:56,050 find uniquely compelling and authoritative, positive mood, 274 00:14:56,050 --> 00:14:59,290 a sense of love or open heartedness, 275 00:14:59,290 --> 00:15:04,290 transcendence of time and space, and then another feature 276 00:15:04,290 --> 00:15:05,890 described is ineffability. 277 00:15:05,890 --> 00:15:09,850 They find it difficult to put these experiences in words. 278 00:15:09,850 --> 00:15:12,280 >> Whether it's caused by a psychedelic substance, 279 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,640 the act of meditation, or caused spontaneously, 280 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,700 recalling mystical-type experiences in words seems 281 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:21,950 to pale in comparison to the underlying meaning. 282 00:15:21,950 --> 00:15:24,280 However, whether the experience itself 283 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,620 can be spoken about or not, psilocybin mushrooms 284 00:15:27,620 --> 00:15:30,820 are being found to help with a number of epidemic-level health 285 00:15:30,820 --> 00:15:32,620 issues in the modern world. 286 00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:39,490 >> The spectrum of therapeutic effects are great, you know, 287 00:15:39,490 --> 00:15:43,450 anxiety in terminal patients, anxiety about-- 288 00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:47,380 existential anxiety for people who are dying. 289 00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:48,580 That's one. 290 00:15:48,580 --> 00:15:51,580 PTSD, it's promising for that. 291 00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:53,680 It looks promising for addictions. 292 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,700 There's been spectacular work on psilocybin and smoking 293 00:15:57,700 --> 00:16:00,820 cessation, which is kind of unexpected, 294 00:16:00,820 --> 00:16:04,690 but it's very effective for smoking cessation. 295 00:16:04,690 --> 00:16:06,460 Depression is another one. 296 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:14,230 Depression is being identified as these FDA protocols are 297 00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:17,830 advanced, and psilocybin can have 298 00:16:17,830 --> 00:16:19,960 a therapeutic effect on it. 299 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,450 >> While so many mental and physical health issues are 300 00:16:22,450 --> 00:16:25,580 given hope in the face of new psilocybin research, 301 00:16:25,580 --> 00:16:27,520 the fact that federally-controlled research 302 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,270 is being overseen by someone who is open to studying and mapping 303 00:16:31,270 --> 00:16:34,910 even the abstract phenomena that fill people with purpose 304 00:16:34,910 --> 00:16:38,170 and meaning is hopeful to those who believe that there is more 305 00:16:38,170 --> 00:16:40,990 than meets the eye behind these psychedelic journeys that 306 00:16:40,990 --> 00:16:42,280 people are explaining. 307 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,030 >> I think that the most compelling and remarkable 308 00:16:46,030 --> 00:16:51,040 finding across all of our populations is that psilocybin, 309 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,020 when administered under these conditions to people who have 310 00:16:56,020 --> 00:17:01,040 been carefully screened and prepared and then received 311 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,500 psilocybin in a setting such as this when they are laying 312 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:09,369 on a couch, and have eye shades on, and headphones, 313 00:17:09,369 --> 00:17:14,680 and they're in the presence of people who have developed 314 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,099 rapport and trust with them, that the great majority 315 00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:23,619 of these people have these remarkable experiences that, 316 00:17:23,619 --> 00:17:26,380 in fact, map on to naturally-occurring, 317 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:29,890 mystical-type experiences. 318 00:17:29,890 --> 00:17:32,770 >> When the mindset and physical setting has been carefully 319 00:17:32,770 --> 00:17:35,500 constructed for a healing experience, 320 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:37,690 there is an abundance of accounts of not only 321 00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:41,410 the occurrence of healing, but a congruent sense of a deep inner 322 00:17:41,410 --> 00:17:44,350 knowing that the healing is beyond physical mechanisms 323 00:17:44,350 --> 00:17:47,650 alone, that an underlying universal shift is taking 324 00:17:47,650 --> 00:17:50,560 place, and the whole being, not just the body, 325 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,400 is receiving healing, that we are more than what we could 326 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,790 ever conceive of and, in fact, we are all different 327 00:17:57,790 --> 00:18:00,880 expressions of the same underlying fabric. 328 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,890 And because these mushrooms reliably 329 00:18:02,890 --> 00:18:05,830 bring about these experiences, the neurology 330 00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:09,610 can finally be analyzed in a scientific setting. 331 00:18:09,610 --> 00:18:13,420 >> We know that people have such experiences in absence 332 00:18:13,420 --> 00:18:17,530 of psychedelics, but under these special set and setting 333 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:22,450 conditions, we can occasion these experiences at very high 334 00:18:22,450 --> 00:18:24,880 probability. 335 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,340 And that opens this up to the interrogation 336 00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:34,960 by scientific method so we can now ask questions 337 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,070 about the nature of these experiences 338 00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:42,610 and the transformative changes that heretofore couldn't 339 00:18:42,610 --> 00:18:47,330 be asked because we didn't understand what processes 340 00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:52,180 or what conditions optimize the probability 341 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:54,730 of these experiences. 342 00:18:54,730 --> 00:18:58,150 >> Because scientific technology has advanced considerably since 343 00:18:58,150 --> 00:19:02,380 the 1960 Harvard studies, psilocybin effects on the brain 344 00:19:02,380 --> 00:19:06,180 are far more understood today. 345 00:19:06,180 --> 00:19:08,970 With the destabilization of the default mode network 346 00:19:08,970 --> 00:19:12,030 in the brain, causing for internal neural communication 347 00:19:12,030 --> 00:19:14,940 to change dramatically, we have a glimpse 348 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:19,080 at what functions of the brain hold trauma in the body. 349 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,950 Most physiological illness that has been conditioned into us 350 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:24,870 is seen as unhealthy communication 351 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:26,910 between brain regions. 352 00:19:26,910 --> 00:19:28,800 When someone has the opportunity to view 353 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,490 their life, their beliefs, their world, and the interactions 354 00:19:32,490 --> 00:19:35,420 between them all in a new and unbiased perspective, 355 00:19:35,420 --> 00:19:38,220 as psychedelics often do, it seems 356 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:40,800 that the innate intelligence of the human being 357 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,440 can identify the communication error 358 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,800 and bring neurochemical processes back into balance. 359 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,190 Whereas most pharmaceutical meds address symptoms only, 360 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:52,640 and most of the time merely mask them, 361 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,660 psilocybin is being seen to address 362 00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:56,760 the source of these symptoms, causing 363 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,260 a lasting rippling effect into all areas of life. 364 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:05,340 >> I think that the most interesting feature is not that 365 00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:10,080 these drugs produce these acute salient effects, 366 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,310 but that these effects are remembered, and there-- 367 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:19,980 and there become attribution points for which people say, 368 00:20:19,980 --> 00:20:22,420 you know, I remember that experience every day. 369 00:20:22,420 --> 00:20:24,630 My life has changed because of it. 370 00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:27,780 My attitudes have changed because of it. 371 00:20:27,780 --> 00:20:32,130 We really only, at this point, have the faintest hint 372 00:20:32,130 --> 00:20:36,120 of what kind of network processes, what kind of brain 373 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,280 processes, are altered. 374 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,980 Exactly which networks are involved and how they interact 375 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:47,220 is still largely a mystery to us. 376 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:50,010 >> Perhaps science is still unable to definitively map 377 00:20:50,010 --> 00:20:52,740 the neurological basis of psilocybin. 378 00:20:52,740 --> 00:20:55,260 But new advancements are seeing in our understanding 379 00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:57,570 of these mushrooms' effects on the brain. 380 00:20:57,570 --> 00:21:00,900 Meanwhile, to arrive at the mind bending and life changing 381 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:03,090 experiences that they afford, people 382 00:21:03,090 --> 00:21:04,800 have been left to secretive methods 383 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,220 to get their hands on them, keeping this age-old sacrament 384 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:11,010 and it's shamanic use alive in the underground. 385 00:21:11,010 --> 00:21:14,430 >> Mushrooms are recolonizing the world right now one 386 00:21:14,430 --> 00:21:16,790 basement at a time. 387 00:21:16,790 --> 00:21:19,770 A lot of people are growing this medicine 388 00:21:19,770 --> 00:21:22,680 and are using it with sacred intention 389 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,980 and not speaking about it very much. 390 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:28,500 It's a very personal experience for them. 391 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:32,820 And people are cultivating mushrooms both for large 392 00:21:32,820 --> 00:21:37,610 experiences, being spiritual, trans-personal experiences, 393 00:21:37,610 --> 00:21:40,800 but people are also primarily cultivating this medicine 394 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,870 for micro dosing and using low-- 395 00:21:45,870 --> 00:21:49,920 incredibly low doses of psilocybin mushrooms 396 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,710 pretty regularly for the treatment of depression, 397 00:21:53,710 --> 00:21:57,660 anxiety, or to provide a little more energy than they 398 00:21:57,660 --> 00:22:00,500 would normally have. 399 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:03,410 >> Micro-dosing psychedelic plants has been popularized 400 00:22:03,410 --> 00:22:07,940 mostly by Dr. James Fadiman, who after 40 years of experience 401 00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:12,110 has called this sub-perceptible dose a problem-solving amount. 402 00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:15,080 Whereas moderate doses are effective for therapy, 403 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,510 and high doses for spirituality. 404 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:19,520 And because of this, the phenomena 405 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,670 has recently found itself in unsuspecting places 406 00:22:22,670 --> 00:22:24,770 like the workplace in Silicon Valley 407 00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:27,350 and other analytical occupations. 408 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:29,600 >> A lot of software engineers, myself included, 409 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,860 tend to be victims of constrained thinking, 410 00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:36,194 or we think very logically and analytically like this is 411 00:22:36,194 --> 00:22:36,993 the way. 412 00:22:36,993 --> 00:22:39,720 Like you know, you start seeing code everywhere in everything 413 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,820 you look at. 414 00:22:40,820 --> 00:22:43,670 But the psychedelics just take all of that, 415 00:22:43,670 --> 00:22:45,980 and rip it up, and tear it into pieces, 416 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:48,560 and you're like, oh, my god, I don't really 417 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,360 know what I know anymore. 418 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,970 And that can be really difficult and really, really amazing. 419 00:22:53,970 --> 00:22:56,330 And so like, with engineering, what it tends to do 420 00:22:56,330 --> 00:22:59,660 is I'll like get stuck on a problem, you know, 421 00:22:59,660 --> 00:23:01,620 like maybe it's some engineering solution. 422 00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:03,703 I just can't think of anything, and I sit with it, 423 00:23:03,703 --> 00:23:05,330 and then I just like suddenly, like, 424 00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:07,572 I can almost see the problem I'm working on, 425 00:23:07,572 --> 00:23:09,530 like in three dimensions, you know what I mean? 426 00:23:09,530 --> 00:23:11,810 Like my eyes closed or whatever and to just see it 427 00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:13,910 in a new way. 428 00:23:13,910 --> 00:23:17,510 >> Dosage is the most surefire way to dramatically change 429 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:20,690 the effects gained from psychedelic mushrooms. 430 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:23,120 Terence McKenna is known for categorizing 431 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:26,090 what he called the heroic dose at 5 432 00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:28,970 or sometimes 5 and 1/2 grams. 433 00:23:28,970 --> 00:23:31,910 To most, this would be considered an amount enough 434 00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:35,060 to elicit a spiritual experience. 435 00:23:35,060 --> 00:23:37,550 Psychologist and author Rick Strassmann, 436 00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:40,250 aside from his famed DMT research, 437 00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:42,730 also administered psilocybin to volunteers 438 00:23:42,730 --> 00:23:44,690 in a lesser-known study. 439 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:48,000 >> The kinds of psilocybin doses, 440 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,510 which are now being called high, were just, you know, 441 00:23:50,510 --> 00:23:54,810 barely threshold psychedelic in our volunteers. 442 00:23:54,810 --> 00:23:59,040 And, yeah, our final large dose of psilocybin, 443 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,330 if we had continued with the studies, 444 00:24:01,330 --> 00:24:06,410 would have been twice what is considered a high dose now. 445 00:24:06,410 --> 00:24:08,570 So that's what was the main finding. 446 00:24:08,570 --> 00:24:10,490 You know, we just pushed the dose more 447 00:24:10,490 --> 00:24:13,130 than anybody had ever pushed it. 448 00:24:13,130 --> 00:24:17,600 >> The doses in Dr. Strassmann's studies were over 8 grams. 449 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,450 This is almost twice as much as Terence McKenna's heroic dose. 450 00:24:21,450 --> 00:24:25,910 >> Now, we know that the probability of having salient 451 00:24:25,910 --> 00:24:29,760 experiences increases as a function of dose. 452 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,280 But the probability of having difficult experiences 453 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,370 also increases as a function of dose. 454 00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:40,260 But I should say that very often, it's 455 00:24:40,260 --> 00:24:43,910 those deeply uncomfortable experiences that 456 00:24:43,910 --> 00:24:49,790 provide a window of opportunity through which, if people can 457 00:24:49,790 --> 00:24:52,250 investigate and go through, they'll 458 00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:54,160 open into larger experiences. 459 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,460 So, very often experiences that people will subsequently 460 00:24:58,460 --> 00:25:01,220 describe as having been difficult 461 00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:06,410 are among the most interesting and meaningful to them. 462 00:25:06,410 --> 00:25:09,470 >> Trauma is typically deeply uncomfortable at the moment 463 00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:12,770 of its adoption, as it's an experience that is too intense 464 00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:16,470 or complex to process all at once. 465 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:19,310 So the memory is stored in the neurology and the tissues 466 00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:22,760 of the body, awaiting a moment to resurface and continue 467 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,330 being processed so it can finally be surrendered and let 468 00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:27,960 go of. 469 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,540 Perhaps that is why these larger doses are useful. 470 00:25:31,540 --> 00:25:33,780 They de-stabilize the habitual processes 471 00:25:33,780 --> 00:25:36,970 of the brain, which likely serve as a distraction 472 00:25:36,970 --> 00:25:41,020 and suppressant of trauma and unwanted aspects of the psyche. 473 00:25:41,020 --> 00:25:44,310 But once this neural habituation has destabilized, 474 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:47,100 the natural healing intelligence of the human being 475 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:52,480 goes into housecleaning mode, and old wounds are addressed. 476 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,030 But what happens beyond these doses? 477 00:25:55,030 --> 00:25:58,850 There are accounts from Kilindi Iyi, a martial arts instructor 478 00:25:58,850 --> 00:26:02,590 and mycologist, who regularly takes 30-plus grams 479 00:26:02,590 --> 00:26:06,220 in one setting, six times the heroic dose. 480 00:26:06,220 --> 00:26:08,680 The experience, as he publicly noted, 481 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,800 is beyond language, beyond the five senses, 482 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,350 and deeply embedded in a world of symbolism 483 00:26:14,350 --> 00:26:16,150 and primal forces that obliterate 484 00:26:16,150 --> 00:26:18,190 the concepts of space time. 485 00:26:18,190 --> 00:26:20,800 At these astronomical doses, he mentions 486 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,510 that the set and setting has less 487 00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:25,420 of an impact on the journey to come. 488 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:28,240 Higher doses become less therapeutic and far more 489 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,040 mystical. 490 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,490 The mystical experience may be deeply transformative. 491 00:26:33,490 --> 00:26:35,530 However, it can also be traumatizing 492 00:26:35,530 --> 00:26:39,760 to experience such intensity to the untrained or uninitiated, 493 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,830 which is counter-intuitive to the purpose 494 00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:44,970 of the therapeutic doses. 495 00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:48,780 In Maslow's hierarchy of needs, the feeling of safety 496 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:53,550 is second only to food, water, warmth, and rest, and you 497 00:26:53,550 --> 00:26:55,860 can rest assured that most of those needs 498 00:26:55,860 --> 00:27:00,120 may not be met with higher doses of psilocybin either. 499 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,340 A child entering this world instantly 500 00:27:02,340 --> 00:27:04,800 latches on to predictability and sources 501 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,740 of safety and sustenance from parents, environment, 502 00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:10,160 and culture. 503 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,410 Anything less causes anxiety, fear, and eventually trauma. 504 00:27:15,410 --> 00:27:19,820 Psilocybin mushrooms, even in moderate doses of 3 to 4 grams, 505 00:27:19,820 --> 00:27:22,760 tends to dissolve our grip on these needs. 506 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,890 5 to 8 grams pushes this boundary 507 00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:28,640 to the limit of consensus sanity. 508 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,410 Some believe that nothing valuable 509 00:27:30,410 --> 00:27:32,330 lies beyond that limit. 510 00:27:32,330 --> 00:27:36,140 Nothing out there can be brought back here and made sense of. 511 00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:38,930 But as we see with psychonauts of DMT 512 00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:40,670 or initiates of the mystery schools 513 00:27:40,670 --> 00:27:43,430 like Eleusis, pushing the envelope 514 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:45,470 is the name of the game. 515 00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:47,630 Venturing where no one has gone before 516 00:27:47,630 --> 00:27:50,900 is born into some seekers' very nature. 517 00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,420 Many believe that psilocybin affords the initiate 518 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:55,910 or volunteer an opportunity to experience 519 00:27:55,910 --> 00:27:58,290 death and return from it. 520 00:27:58,290 --> 00:28:01,940 >> So this work with psilocybin and these reorganizational 521 00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:07,050 kinds of emergent experiences that come out of that speaks 522 00:28:07,050 --> 00:28:14,570 very deeply to my own interest and longing in understanding 523 00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:17,640 the nature of consciousness. 524 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,870 It seems to me that the fundamental question 525 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:25,190 that we as humans are faced with is, 526 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:27,140 what are we really doing here? 527 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:31,310 How is it that we've come to be in this sea of consciousness 528 00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:32,600 and awareness? 529 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,600 You know, what's really going on here? 530 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,950 What happens when we die? 531 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:41,195 How did this whole phenomenon come about? 532 00:28:41,195 --> 00:28:45,410 These are the existential questions of life, 533 00:28:45,410 --> 00:28:49,340 and personally, I can't think of anything 534 00:28:49,340 --> 00:28:52,940 more interesting and intriguing, and I 535 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:58,250 think that psilocybin and work with these compounds 536 00:28:58,250 --> 00:29:02,360 provides a unique doorway into exploration 537 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,800 of these sorts of experiences. 538 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,370 >> As science barrels into the future with new technologies 539 00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:13,640 to study ancient methodologies for healing and spiritual 540 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,810 transformation, are we finally on the verge of understanding 541 00:29:17,810 --> 00:29:21,110 these psychedelic substances and their unique effects on human 542 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:23,960 consciousness and neurochemistry? 543 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,990 If psilocybin is the oldest classical psychedelic 544 00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:30,170 with widespread shamanic use, perhaps we 545 00:29:30,170 --> 00:29:33,530 are in the midst of a revival of the old Eleusinian-style 546 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:36,890 mysteries, and perhaps these mysteries are finally 547 00:29:36,890 --> 00:29:42,080 being decoded and widespread, a large-medicine heavily 548 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,860 suppressed, demonized, and misunderstood finally 549 00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:49,590 back into the hands of those who intend to heal the world's ills 550 00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:53,060 and voyage into the unknown. 551 00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:55,100 Another highly-suppressed and controversial 552 00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:57,320 mind-expanding plant species that 553 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,860 has been with humanity for ages is the North American peyote 554 00:30:00,860 --> 00:30:03,650 cactus and its sister in South America known 555 00:30:03,650 --> 00:30:06,650 as huachuma or San Pedro. 556 00:30:06,650 --> 00:30:09,260 Up next, join us as we investigate 557 00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:12,530 the history of psychedelic cacti use among indigenous 558 00:30:12,530 --> 00:30:15,140 across the New World and how they mirrored 559 00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:18,320 ancient Greek initiations as well as prophecies 560 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,520 surrounding the unification of shamanic tribes everywhere. 561 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,270 [MUSIC PLAYING] 562 00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:31,830 47178

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