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I want to know, when you look
at yourself, what do you see?
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Honestly, I try not to stare at
myself too much in the mirror.
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Steve: You're not a slut.
[ Sobs ]
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You're not
a piece of shit.
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And you are not the first person
to fall prey to a predator.
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Steve: I've been
a lot of things in my life.
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I've been a bank robber
and a prisoner,
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but being a shaman
is my calling.
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Ayahuasca
is a schedule‐I narcotic,
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the same as heroin and LSD,
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but it's not a drug,
it's medicine,
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and in my church,
it's a sacrament.
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We can do in two days
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what conventional therapy
may take years to do,
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but only if you are willing
to step in to the pain.
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♪♪
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I started working with people
as a medicine person
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and as a shaman approximately
15, 16 years ago.
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At the time, I was recently
released from prison.
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I applied everything that
I'd ever learned
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while I was a criminal
to doing ceremonies underground.
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If I worked with somebody,
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it would be in a different
location each time.
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And each location
would only be used once.
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And I made sure my footprint
in that location
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was incredibly minimal.
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Here's this class‐I scheduled
substance
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that the government looks
at the same as meth,
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opiates, heroin ‐‐
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and it's healing people
right in front of me.
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There was many times I was
wondering what in the...
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am I getting into.
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I am not only distributing
a class‐I substance,
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I'm manufacturing
a class‐I substance.
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If they bust me doing this,
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I'm going to prison
for the rest of my life.
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But you know what?
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Every time, Mother was there
just nudging me ‐‐
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"Come on, dude.
You can do this."
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I go to the spirits, and they're
like, "We got your back.
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We need you to trust us.
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We need your skill set to bring
Mother out of the jungle.
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And then, in 2013, gay marriage
was starting to become legal
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in a handful of states.
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And Southern Baptist ministers
were scared
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that gay couples were gonna
come to Kentucky
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and force them
to marry them.
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‐Homosexuals...
‐Kentucky enacted
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the Religious Freedom
Restoration act.
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This act states that
the government
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shall not substantially burden
a person's freedom of religion.
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Essentially, however people
worshipped in their church
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was off‐limits
to the government.
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I recognized quickly,
that in this act
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there was a loophole
that I could go legit.
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I went to the local authorities,
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I filed my paperwork
that I was starting a church ‐‐
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of course I didn't
mention ayahuasca.
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It was just a Native
American church
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where we were gonna
offer spiritual ceremonies.
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And that's when we stepped out,
planted our flag.
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I am here, and I'm giving
the most powerful psychedelic
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known to man to some of
the most unstable people.
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And guess what?
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We're healing 'em
every step of the way.
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♪♪
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Donavan:
When I wake up in the mornings,
I always have at least one beer
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just because I‐I feel sick
if I don't.
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♪♪
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I'm an alcoholic, for sure.
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On average, what I drink a day,
after work it's about a 6‐pack.
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On a day off work,
probably a 12‐pack.
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If not, a 24‐pack sometimes.
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This morning.
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Now I'm pretending being
an alcoholic's great ‐‐
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being an alcoholic's fun.
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And in reality, it's not.
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It's definitely gotten me
into trouble before.
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I went to jail
because I, um, I was drunk
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and had broken out
a bunch of car windows.
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I've woken up on
the roofs of bars.
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I got Appendicitis
from drinking alcohol.
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My liver got so inflamed
it burst my appendix.
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The number‐one reason
I want to come
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and try ayahuasca is
to beat my alcoholism.
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It'd be really nice
to stop drinking,
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kind of move on with my life,
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try to do something
more productive.
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♪♪
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Elizabeth: I have past traumas
that I carry around with me
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like heavy luggage
that I need to unpack.
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For eight years I was addicted
pretty heavily to opiates.
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Got to a point where if I
didn't stop what I was doing,
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I was gonna die.
That's what that addiction does.
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It takes your life from you
piece by piece by piece.
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♪♪
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I am two‐and‐a‐half years clean,
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but just ‐‐ just because the
drugs are out of the system
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doesn't mean that that addict
mentality isn't fully gone.
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So I had to learn
how to re‐live my life
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and ‐‐ and it's still a struggle
to this day.
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My intentions for coming here
to Aya Quest
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are to deal with a lot
of my past traumas
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that I've been holding on to
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that causes anxiety
and depression
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and just ‐‐ just depletes
your self‐worth.
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And I'm ready to rise
above that.
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So are you all ready to see
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where you're going to spend
the next couple of days?
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‐Yes.
‐Yes, ma'am.
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Alright, well if you all would
like to grab your things
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and follow me.
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Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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In this group we have
Donavan from Tennessee,
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Elizabeth from Massachusetts,
and we have Emma from Illinois.
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Ever since I was little,
I always felt like
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I had two sides to me.
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Um, and I'm known
for being, like,
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this happy‐go‐lucky person.
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And yet, when I go home,
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I feel like
I'm going to explode ‐‐
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like I'm just empty inside,
and, like, life has no purpose
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and there's no ‐‐
there's no‐‐ no reason
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for me to wake up
in the mornings.
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No matter what I do,
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I always have this lingering
depression and anxiety.
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And so that's why
I'm taking ayahuasca,
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so I can find out
what the root cause is
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and open it up finally ‐‐
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dissect it ‐‐
and move beyond it.
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‐Hello.
‐Hello.
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My name is Steve Hupp,
I'm the chief shaman
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with Aya Quest
Native Americas Church.
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How is everybody doing?
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I hope well.
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I'm a little nervous,
but I'm excited.
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Okay.
Well, I appreciate your courage.
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I'm probably
gonna cry a lot
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and want someone
to hold my hand a lot.
That's okay.
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That's all good.
We're here for you.
Okay. Thank you.
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But part of this also,
remember, is we want you
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to get through your rough
patches because that's where
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the confidence is really
gonna be built for you.
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Because at the end of this,
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we're not gonna be there
to hold your hand.
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Alright.
Now, I know a lot of you
right now are nervous
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and a little tense,
and who wouldn't be?
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I remember my first cup.
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Now, I can tell you
your experience tonight,
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especially your first night,
we're not gonna push you
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off a cliff ‐‐
I promise you.
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We're gonna take it small
and incremental
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because I want you
to find your balance
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within the medicine tonight.
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Teri:
So we will do your first cup.
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We're gonna give that
about 20 or 30 minutes
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and then we will do
a second cup.
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Steve:
Let's say you do pick up a cup
and you go to drink it,
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and your throat just closes.
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Spit it right back in the cup.
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That's your body telling you
right now,
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you got everything you need.
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Just chill out, re‐approach
20 minutes later,
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and 9 times out of 10,
it'll go down just fine.
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So what I'm saying to you is
if you're in that sweet spot,
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that ain't the time
to try to go higher.
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Try to learn everything
you can while you're there.
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Oh, man.
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Donavan: What's not so nice
is when you drink it.
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It's like drinking instant
coffee that somehow got burnt,
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and then was left out
in the woods for,
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like, three weeks
and a cow shit in it.
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Like, it's so bad.
[ Laughs ]
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Elizabeth: I've been sitting
in my shit for far too long,
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and I feel like ayahuasca
is really going to
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blow my mind wide the...
open on this.
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Emma: My stomach was just,
like, in knots.
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I was like, "I don't know
what to expect."
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And I was ‐‐ I was terrified.
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I'm like, "What did I get
myself into?"
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♪♪
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Steve: Ayahuasca's
a hallucinogenic tea
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made with plants
from the Amazon,
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and it is the strongest
psychedelic known to man.
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But this isn't like LSD,
ayahuasca's a portal
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to your inner‐self ‐‐
your subconscious.
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And through that portal,
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you're gonna meet a goddess
we call Mother Aya.
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When your journey first
takes off,
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you may feel euphoria
until ‐‐ boom!
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The spike hits,
and the purge begins.
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You may laugh, you may cry,
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and you may do both
at the same time.
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You may puke or shit.
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But each of those purges are
a physical manifestation
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of an emotional release.
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That's when you truly
find healing.
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♪♪
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On the day of the ceremony,
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it's not recommended
to drink any alcohol,
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but Donavan's alcoholism
runs so deep
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he drank a beer that morning.
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One beer is gonna take
one hour
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for your liver to metabolize it,
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so he's not gonna have
any ill effects by having a beer
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that morning and drinking
ayahuasca that night.
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And I can't have him
sitting there going,
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"'...' I wish I had
a beer right now."
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I'd rather you drink that beer.
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But after noon, I don't want you
to have nothing.
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And if I find after noon
that you had that beer,
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you're not drinking ayahuasca
that night.
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Donavan:
I definitely started noticing it
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and definitely being sure
that I was feeling it.
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Like, I kinda just
kinda felt calm
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and like I was kind of moving
with the music a little bit.
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I think I was ‐‐ I was 19 when
I started heavily drinking.
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Before that, I hated drinking.
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I wanted to do Molly
all the time.
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I loved Molly.
I wanted to do Molly,
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I wanted to take acid,
I wanted to smoke weed,
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I wanted to do your classic
rager/party drugs.
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Then, uh, I went to jail
because I was drunk
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and had broken out
a bunch of car windows.
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And they put me on probation.
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And when I was put on probation,
I was getting drug tested.
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I couldn't smoke weed anymore,
and that was the main drug
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I was doing ‐‐
so I started drinking.
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Probation, I‐I like to blame it
for making me an alcoholic,
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but it's not totally to blame.
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But it definitely played
a huge role
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in me becoming an alcoholic
because alcohol's legal.
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♪♪
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Steve: He was drunk,
he blacked out,
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and didn't know
why he was there.
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And then when they brought him
his paperwork,
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it was vehicular homicide.
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♪♪
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Elizabeth: I feel great.
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I feel it moving through
my belly, though.
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Teri: Mm‐hmm.
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I think the way it works
with everybody
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is completely different.
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All you can do
is just roll with it
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and let her do
what she's gonna do.
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♪♪
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Emma: When I put the hood over
my head and started crying,
248
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that was when
it was starting to hit me.
249
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And I was, like, really
tuning in to the music.
250
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And the music was just so
beautiful it just made me cry.
251
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Steve:
Emma made the comment that
she is one that cries a lot,
252
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and she might need somebody
to hold her hand.
253
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But if you're just going
through a painful process,
254
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you need to go through that.
255
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Sometimes you got to put
your big‐girl panties on
256
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and you got
to pull them up tight
257
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and you got to walk it off.
258
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My childhood was really
a fog to me.
259
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I don't quite remember
most of it.
260
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I always say, like, I don't
have a lot of memories.
261
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My parents split
when I was three,
262
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so I was always back and forth
between her and him.
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The most explicit memory I have
is being six
264
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and my dad had told me that
he was gonna take me to court
265
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and I needed to choose
between her and him.
266
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He told me that my mom
didn't love me
267
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and, um, I needed to leave her
and that he needed me
268
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and that he was the only one
that could take care of me.
269
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My father was always
very up and down.
270
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I remember going skiing with him
and him crying on the chair lift
271
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saying he couldn't live anymore
and that he was so miserable
272
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and the only thing
that would make him happy
273
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was if I left my mom
to come live with him.
274
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And, um, I would just tell him,
"Why don't you get a dog?
275
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Why don't you get a dog?"
276
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All that would matter was me
choosing him over her.
277
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High school was when
I started drinking
278
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because I couldn't
handle whatever was ‐‐
279
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whatever I was feeling.
280
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I'm hoping that ayahuasca will
help me with my drinking issues
281
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so I don't allow myself
to move past
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that point of not
caring anymore.
283
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♪♪
284
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♪♪
285
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Steve: With Donavan, we have
arranged a photo collage,
286
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if you will, to be placed
on a wall through a projector.
287
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We're using the LED lights
and colors
288
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to speak directly
to his subconscious mind,
289
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while we're using imagery
to imprint
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and discuss certain painful
topics and pleasant topics.
291
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Please, have a seat.
292
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When there was positive scenes
up, switch to green.
293
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When there was secure scenes
up of family, friends,
294
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and groups,
switch to blue.
295
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The reasons is,
is blue is a secure color.
296
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When there was jail scenes up,
I wanted red.
297
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I wanted that to signal
his subconscious,
298
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"You got to stop because
this is where alcohol
299
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is gonna lead this young man
300
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if he doesn't get a grip
on himself right now.
301
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Where do you see you
going in life?
302
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Where do you want to go?
Let's ‐‐ Let's talk that.
303
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Obviously, you don't like
304
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how your life
is progressing thus far
305
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or you wouldn't be
trying to change it.
306
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Is that correct.
I think I've been so...
307
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up all the time I haven't
actually, like, sat down
308
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and actually put some real, good
thought into what I want to do.
309
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Do you drink every day?
Just about, yeah.
310
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It makes me sick in the morning
if I don't drink a beer.
311
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That's physical withdrawals.
312
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Yeah, it is.
313
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You know there's only one way
to quit, right?
314
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Quit.
Quit.
315
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Quit.
316
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That's the only way.
I've been there.
317
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I started drinking when
I was five years old
318
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is when they gave me
my first taste of whiskey.
319
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I didn't get a handle
on my alcoholism
320
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till my first D.U.I.
321
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I would like if you would just
kind of kick back here
322
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and just sit here
for a few minutes,
323
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just watch this imagery
and just relax a little bit.
324
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The reason I chose some of
these images of incarceration,
325
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because if you
keep... up
326
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then that's where
you could end.
327
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You know, I was in prison
with a guy
328
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who woke up
in a jail cell one day
329
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because he was drunk,
he blacked out,
330
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and didn't know
why he was there.
331
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And then when they brought him
his paperwork,
332
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it was vehicular homicide.
333
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Your liver.
334
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Your liver's the second
largest organ in the body
335
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outside of your skin ‐‐
336
00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:04,107
and it's the only
one you got.
337
00:17:04,106 --> 00:17:07,566
You ever see someone
with jaundice, where their liver
338
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ain't functioning
and they're all yellow?
339
00:17:09,612 --> 00:17:12,532
And the other side is,
alcoholism ain't gonna get
340
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any easier for you to tackle.
341
00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,700
It's just gonna get harder
the longer
342
00:17:16,702 --> 00:17:19,372
you let it have free hand.
343
00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:21,872
And then you can't do that stuff
that you like,
344
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with the friends
that you want,
345
00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:27,336
and the family
that you could build.
346
00:17:27,338 --> 00:17:30,338
And while you might have thought
about this in many other ways,
347
00:17:30,341 --> 00:17:32,131
in many other places,
348
00:17:32,134 --> 00:17:34,264
you've never done it
while you're under ayahuasca,
349
00:17:34,262 --> 00:17:37,312
and that's why
we're doing this ‐‐
350
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just to give you
some time to think.
351
00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:42,597
'Cause, Donavan,
you're a good guy.
352
00:17:42,603 --> 00:17:44,273
You got a lot going for you.
353
00:17:44,272 --> 00:17:47,152
You got a lot
to offer the world.
354
00:17:47,149 --> 00:17:48,819
When I was working
with Donavan,
355
00:17:48,818 --> 00:17:50,898
the first thing
that came to me is,
356
00:17:50,903 --> 00:17:54,243
"He hasn't really,
seriously grasped
357
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,740
the depths of his addiction."
358
00:17:57,743 --> 00:18:00,163
And that's where I'm not sure.
359
00:18:00,162 --> 00:18:04,502
Is he at a place that
he truly wants to change.
360
00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,880
But you know the one thing
that I do know, that I do know
361
00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:10,878
I cannot make any prediction
on a first night and that is,
362
00:18:10,881 --> 00:18:12,591
Mother Aya.
363
00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:17,052
Mother Aya's the wild card
to all of this.
364
00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:18,894
Donavan: Definitely being
upstairs with Steve
365
00:18:18,889 --> 00:18:21,849
really triggered the ayahuasca.
366
00:18:21,851 --> 00:18:24,441
It started getting it going,
it started, uh, helping me
367
00:18:24,437 --> 00:18:26,147
kind of feel the effects.
368
00:18:30,318 --> 00:18:34,108
I started off seeing, um,
my own face.
369
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:35,873
And it wasn't like looking
in a mirror,
370
00:18:35,865 --> 00:18:38,235
it was like looking at another
person, but i‐it was me.
371
00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,872
It was my own face,
and it's so hard
372
00:18:39,869 --> 00:18:43,289
to picture that in ‐‐
in your own head.
373
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I started feeling the effects
a little stronger.
374
00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:49,917
I started feeling, like, all
at once alcohol withdrawal
375
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,340
would hit me ‐‐
I was getting shakes.
376
00:18:54,175 --> 00:18:58,095
And then I purged very hard.
377
00:18:58,095 --> 00:19:00,555
I don't know what it was,
something came out, man.
378
00:19:02,642 --> 00:19:04,232
I think it was good.
379
00:19:04,226 --> 00:19:06,306
I think that was good for me,
for sure,
380
00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:10,192
to ‐‐ to ‐‐ to let all that ‐‐
that bad, just toxic shit out.
381
00:19:10,191 --> 00:19:11,781
Just kinda purge it out.
382
00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:14,446
‐You alright, bro?
‐Y‐Yeah, I'm fine.
383
00:19:14,445 --> 00:19:17,485
[ Laughs ]
...
384
00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:21,913
Elizabeth:
I found my biological father.
385
00:19:21,911 --> 00:19:24,961
He would tell me, "It's natural
for you to want me
386
00:19:24,955 --> 00:19:25,915
the way that I want you."
387
00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:43,348
♪♪
388
00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:46,639
♪♪
389
00:19:46,644 --> 00:19:49,064
Steve: The day after your
first night's ceremony
390
00:19:49,063 --> 00:19:51,943
is an incredibly important day
for the main reason of,
391
00:19:51,941 --> 00:19:53,651
people are processing.
392
00:19:53,651 --> 00:19:56,701
And they're processing
sometimes raw emotions
393
00:19:56,696 --> 00:20:01,116
that are still bubbling up
to the surface.
394
00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:03,577
I feel really good,
very relaxed at the moment.
395
00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:04,947
[ Laughs ]
396
00:20:04,954 --> 00:20:06,624
I already feel Mother Aya's
397
00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:09,792
working through my system
and she has incorporated
398
00:20:09,792 --> 00:20:13,172
a lot of good already,
even with my past.
399
00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:15,170
I already feel more
at peace with it.
400
00:20:17,466 --> 00:20:21,176
Between ages four and seven,
I was sexually abused.
401
00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:22,638
I don't know who.
402
00:20:22,638 --> 00:20:24,888
I just remember distinct things,
403
00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:27,350
being told to keep
something a secret.
404
00:20:27,351 --> 00:20:28,941
Seeing male genitals
405
00:20:28,936 --> 00:20:31,356
and not understanding
what was going on.
406
00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:36,025
Being touched and being told
that ‐‐ that it was our secret.
407
00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:40,316
And around 14, I had started
dabbling in drinking alcohol,
408
00:20:40,322 --> 00:20:41,872
marijuana,
409
00:20:41,866 --> 00:20:45,326
and then it just
graduated to opiates
410
00:20:45,327 --> 00:20:49,617
because of whatever memories
that would flood my mind
411
00:20:49,623 --> 00:20:52,543
I wanted to numb myself from ‐‐
so that's what I did.
412
00:20:52,543 --> 00:20:54,133
I numbed.
413
00:20:58,883 --> 00:21:01,973
When I was 19 years old,
I was told by my mother
414
00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:03,719
that there is a big possibility
415
00:21:03,721 --> 00:21:08,931
that my father was not
possibly biologically mine.
416
00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:15,274
So I reached out and found
my supposed biological father,
417
00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:20,574
and, uh,
he's a pretty awful man.
418
00:21:20,571 --> 00:21:25,161
I remember being really...
up on drugs, and I ‐‐
419
00:21:25,159 --> 00:21:29,619
I blacked out and ‐‐ and when
I came to, he was touching me.
420
00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,962
He would tell me, you know,
"These are all feelings
421
00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:36,548
that it's natural for you
to feel sexually toward me.
422
00:21:36,545 --> 00:21:39,045
It's natural for you to, um,
423
00:21:39,048 --> 00:21:41,178
want me the way
that I want you."
424
00:21:41,175 --> 00:21:45,215
And then right after the act
went down, I‐I would throw up.
425
00:21:45,221 --> 00:21:46,851
I‐‐ [ Sighs ]
426
00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:48,967
It was ‐‐ It was awful.
427
00:21:48,974 --> 00:21:50,644
It was awful and confusing,
428
00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:52,853
and ‐‐ and I didn't know
what to make of it.
429
00:21:52,853 --> 00:21:55,693
It made me feel dirty.
430
00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:57,359
It was a disgusting feeling,
431
00:21:57,358 --> 00:21:59,318
and I just wanted
to kill myself.
432
00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:03,028
I‐I was ready and willing
to leave this earth.
433
00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:10,197
Because of all these situations
in my life,
434
00:22:10,204 --> 00:22:14,964
I feel at a very young age
being ‐‐ being touched
435
00:22:14,959 --> 00:22:17,419
equaled being loved
beyond measure.
436
00:22:17,419 --> 00:22:21,129
I would really like to, uh,
change that way of thinking ‐‐
437
00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:23,221
that sex no longer
equals love.
438
00:22:23,217 --> 00:22:25,547
It can be a part of love, and
a beautiful part of it at that,
439
00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:28,263
but it doesn't mean love.
440
00:22:28,264 --> 00:22:40,824
♪♪
441
00:22:40,818 --> 00:22:47,158
♪♪
442
00:22:47,157 --> 00:22:48,907
Steve:
So how are we doing?
443
00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:50,909
Elizabeth: Please go down
and not come right back up.
444
00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:53,001
Oh, you're gonna talk
to it already, huh?
Yes.
445
00:22:52,997 --> 00:22:55,167
[ Laughter ]
I don't blame you.
I don't blame you.
446
00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:57,915
That's a good, beautiful way
to start. Beautiful way.
447
00:22:57,918 --> 00:23:00,668
Cups will be coming at you
much faster tonight,
448
00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:02,591
but again, you've got to be
the judge
449
00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:03,800
on whether you drink or not.
450
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,469
This is not a drinking game.
451
00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:07,797
We just make it available
and it's up to you
452
00:23:07,803 --> 00:23:10,813
to how far you feel
you need to go or proceed.
453
00:23:10,806 --> 00:23:19,226
♪♪
454
00:23:19,231 --> 00:23:23,071
We are a spiritual triage.
455
00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:25,778
We only have two to three days
with you,
456
00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:30,119
and we do what no other medical
establishment can do in years.
457
00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:32,617
And that is give you
a brand‐new life,
458
00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:34,830
a brand‐new connection
to the Universe,
459
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:37,080
and a whole,
brand‐new you.
460
00:23:37,082 --> 00:23:47,552
♪♪
461
00:23:47,551 --> 00:23:51,721
Donavan:
The second night was really
euphoric, um, right off the bat.
462
00:23:51,722 --> 00:23:54,352
The first night felt like
alcohol withdrawals all at once.
463
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:57,440
The second night
was a lot different.
464
00:24:00,731 --> 00:24:06,491
And that's when I saw, like,
this big, red, fiery eye ‐‐
465
00:24:06,487 --> 00:24:09,367
like a‐a‐a‐a cosmic eyeball.
466
00:24:09,365 --> 00:24:12,275
Um, it was a little freaky.
467
00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:14,244
So I opened my eyes,
um, I was like,
468
00:24:14,244 --> 00:24:17,414
"Hold on. W‐W‐W‐Wait a sec.
I'm ‐‐ I'm, like, I'm ‐‐
469
00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:19,544
I'm about to get burned down
by this eyeball.
470
00:24:19,541 --> 00:24:23,001
And then, uh, it just kind of
dispersed and it was gone,
471
00:24:23,003 --> 00:24:27,933
and I was in
complete nothingness ‐‐
472
00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,335
no sound, n‐nothing.
473
00:24:30,344 --> 00:24:31,644
I wasn't even thinking.
474
00:24:31,637 --> 00:24:33,597
It was just, I was present.
475
00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,307
It was such a disembodiment,
476
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:41,107
um, it was like only
my consciousness was in this.
477
00:24:43,357 --> 00:24:45,357
I came out of that feeling
so good.
478
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,069
It just felt ‐‐ it felt great.
479
00:24:47,069 --> 00:24:49,319
It felt like everything had been
lifted off my shoulders.
480
00:24:52,783 --> 00:24:55,913
I would drink to the point
of severe blackouts, like,
481
00:24:55,911 --> 00:24:57,791
would wake up in hospitals
482
00:24:57,788 --> 00:24:59,248
or wake up
not knowing where I was.
483
00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:09,091
♪♪
484
00:25:09,091 --> 00:25:11,011
Steve:
Part of Emma's problem is,
485
00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:15,220
is all she wanted to do
was love and help her daddy.
486
00:25:15,222 --> 00:25:18,352
And all her daddy did
was tell her
487
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:20,350
how bad of a job she'd done.
488
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,855
Tonight with Emma,
489
00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:28,107
I chose to use the tent
to create a symbolic womb...
490
00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,610
Okay, just watch
your step coming up.
491
00:25:30,612 --> 00:25:33,242
...a symbolic safe space
492
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,490
that will be lighted up
with different colors
493
00:25:35,492 --> 00:25:37,792
that give her something
to hold her visuals
494
00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:40,366
while the medicine
and the light show is working
495
00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,752
so I can give her
to Mother Aya
496
00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:45,840
in a place that
she'll be more open
497
00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:49,506
and more likely to accept
the subtle messages
498
00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:52,466
that Mother's gonna give her.
499
00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:53,798
What was your life like?
500
00:25:53,802 --> 00:25:56,392
Start as soon as you
can remember.
501
00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:59,638
Um, I don't remember
a lot of my childhood,
502
00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:04,271
but the parts that I do,
a lot of it was, um,
503
00:26:04,271 --> 00:26:08,151
counseling my dad
through his bipolar disorder.
504
00:26:08,150 --> 00:26:10,280
And how old were you
when you were doing this?
505
00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:12,317
Like six years old.
Wow.
506
00:26:12,321 --> 00:26:15,451
So a lot of things
just fell on me to,
507
00:26:15,449 --> 00:26:17,239
you know,
look out for myself,
508
00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:20,002
but also look out to make sure
my parents were happy.
509
00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:22,075
Tell me about your relationship
with your mom.
510
00:26:22,081 --> 00:26:23,461
How was ‐‐ How was that?
511
00:26:23,457 --> 00:26:25,877
It was nonexistent
because I thought ‐‐
512
00:26:25,876 --> 00:26:29,416
I didn't trust her because he
had told me at a young age
513
00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:31,171
that my mom didn't love me
514
00:26:31,173 --> 00:26:32,633
and she would never
take care of me
515
00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:35,013
and that I needed
to leave her.
516
00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:37,930
And he told me that he would,
like, never be happy
517
00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,640
unless I would do that.
518
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,770
Well, and unfortunately
for you,
519
00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:44,387
there is a thing called
sexless incest.
520
00:26:44,394 --> 00:26:46,234
And what it is is it's where
521
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:51,150
you have to fulfill
a role of a friend.
522
00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,071
Okay, it doesn't mean
that anything
523
00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:55,240
inappropriate happened
physically.
Yeah.
524
00:26:55,239 --> 00:26:57,319
But what you're describing
to me is,
525
00:26:57,324 --> 00:27:00,244
is you had to help your dad
at six years old deal
526
00:27:00,244 --> 00:27:02,164
with a mental illness.
Yeah.
527
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:04,962
And he wanted you in his life
to fill the holes
528
00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:07,127
when his other females
wasn't there.
529
00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:09,626
Mm‐hmm.
Exactly.
530
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,708
If you could just take away
anything that your dad
531
00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:14,134
put upon you,
what would it be?
532
00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:15,763
One thing.
533
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:18,259
Guilt.
Guilt.
534
00:27:18,262 --> 00:27:21,602
I think it's why I feel like
I have no self‐worth.
535
00:27:21,598 --> 00:27:23,518
Because, it's like, "Oh,
you're worthless.
536
00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:25,137
What does it matter?"
537
00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:27,813
You did nothing wrong.
Y‐You know, you were a child.
538
00:27:27,813 --> 00:27:32,993
You had no ‐‐ no idea that you
were being manipulated,
539
00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:38,275
and you did the best you
could given the circumstances.
540
00:27:38,282 --> 00:27:40,202
Could you tell me a little bit
about the drinking ‐‐
541
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,200
when it began?
542
00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:46,582
It fell really out of control
a few years ago.
543
00:27:46,582 --> 00:27:49,672
It became binge drinking,
where ‐‐
544
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:52,298
where the chances
I could get drunk,
545
00:27:52,296 --> 00:27:55,376
I would drink to the point of,
like, severe blackouts.
546
00:27:55,382 --> 00:27:57,432
Like, would wake up
in hospitals
547
00:27:57,426 --> 00:27:59,256
or wake up not knowing
where I was.
548
00:27:59,261 --> 00:28:01,391
When was the last blackout
that you had?
549
00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,678
Like a few weeks ago.
550
00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:06,022
Um... Yeah.
551
00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:08,938
You were self‐medicating
a lot.
Mm‐hmm.
552
00:28:08,937 --> 00:28:11,357
That's when the guilt
was eating you up.
553
00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:13,686
Yeah.
And, you know, here's ‐‐
here's the flip side.
554
00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,612
You have to be an incredibly
caring lady
555
00:28:16,612 --> 00:28:18,742
to, at six years old,
556
00:28:18,739 --> 00:28:23,789
know your... up in the head dad
needs some help.
557
00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:26,995
And you tried.
But you know what?
558
00:28:26,997 --> 00:28:29,667
That wasn't your weight
to carry.
559
00:28:29,666 --> 00:28:34,166
You didn't fail him,
he failed you.
560
00:28:34,171 --> 00:28:35,671
As I'm talking to Emma,
561
00:28:35,672 --> 00:28:37,972
I'm recognizing
a strong confidence
562
00:28:37,966 --> 00:28:40,836
coming through her eyes,
through her demeanor.
563
00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:44,814
Yesterday, before ayahuasca,
she had no control emotionally.
564
00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:47,556
She would cry
at a drop of a hat.
565
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:52,559
And tonight, we touched
every painful topic in her life,
566
00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:56,614
and I've only seen two times
that tears came to her eyes.
567
00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:59,820
That's progress.
That's making peace.
568
00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:03,241
That is stability starting
to interweave
569
00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,701
back into her reality.
570
00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:09,542
That's healing.
571
00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:12,329
Emma: The ayahuasca was, like ‐‐
something was just,
572
00:29:12,334 --> 00:29:14,424
like, opening me up
573
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,799
and she was saying,
like, "It's time.
574
00:29:16,797 --> 00:29:18,627
Like, we're gonna do this."
575
00:29:18,632 --> 00:29:20,302
I was looking up at the ceiling
576
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:22,720
and everything
just started vibrating,
577
00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:26,599
and then suctioning out.
578
00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:31,848
That helped catapult me into
my journey with Mother Aya.
579
00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:35,573
And She said, "You fill yourself
with black energy.
580
00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:39,525
You cannot do that because you
are actually a ball of light.
581
00:29:39,528 --> 00:29:42,068
You are this divine entity."
582
00:29:42,072 --> 00:29:45,332
It was the most nurturing
and loving voice.
583
00:29:45,325 --> 00:29:47,445
And, like, I felt so lucky.
584
00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,252
Like, I remember feeling like,
"Oh, my gosh.
585
00:29:49,246 --> 00:29:51,576
I'm so lucky she's treating me
with so much love.
586
00:29:51,581 --> 00:29:55,171
She's treating me
with so much love."
587
00:29:55,168 --> 00:30:00,338
I definitely feel like that
small child in me was healing.
588
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:03,840
I feel like she was kind of
almost walking away finally.
589
00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:10,314
And she just exited me,
and for the first time
590
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:13,478
just said,
"We can ‐‐ We can move on now."
591
00:30:16,356 --> 00:30:19,026
[Crying] It wasn't my fault.
592
00:30:19,026 --> 00:30:20,936
It's okay.
... you.
593
00:30:20,944 --> 00:30:23,324
Elizabeth: I knew something
was about to go down.
594
00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:33,576
♪♪
595
00:30:33,582 --> 00:30:37,292
[ Drum beats ]
596
00:30:37,294 --> 00:30:44,634
♪♪
597
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:46,684
Steve: Elizabeth is gonna be
a tough case
598
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:49,768
because she comes
from a lot of trauma.
599
00:30:49,765 --> 00:30:52,845
She had a biological father who,
600
00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:55,771
for all intents and purposes,
raped her.
601
00:30:55,771 --> 00:30:58,071
I'm hopeful that Mother Aya
tonight
602
00:30:58,065 --> 00:30:59,935
will really touch her heart
603
00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:04,571
and her mind with pure,
unconditional love.
604
00:31:04,571 --> 00:31:07,491
You get that chair
sitting there by itself.
605
00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:09,331
‐Right there.
‐Right here?
606
00:31:09,326 --> 00:31:11,326
‐Okay.
‐And it's just us.
607
00:31:11,328 --> 00:31:13,208
[Voice breaking ] I just got
really emotional coming in here.
608
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,365
Steve: That's all good.
Teri: That's okay.
609
00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:16,963
It's okay.
[ Laughs ]
610
00:31:16,958 --> 00:31:18,628
That's what we came for
611
00:31:18,627 --> 00:31:20,797
is to crack some
of these emotions.
612
00:31:20,796 --> 00:31:23,506
And to help us heal.
[ Sobbing ]
613
00:31:23,507 --> 00:31:28,137
That's okay.
And just take
you a moment.
614
00:31:28,136 --> 00:31:31,386
Elizabeth:
Mother Aya now is running
through my veins and my system
615
00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:35,099
and, you know, I'm kind of
tripping out in a sense.
616
00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:37,272
And I knew ‐‐
617
00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:40,520
I knew something, like,
legit was about to go down.
618
00:31:40,524 --> 00:31:43,574
It's just how far
I was willing to go with it
619
00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:45,648
was ‐‐ was the question.
620
00:31:45,654 --> 00:31:48,994
You share with me
what you can.
Okay.
621
00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:51,870
But try to go as deep
as you can.
622
00:31:51,868 --> 00:31:54,328
There you go.
[ Inhales, exhales deeply ]
623
00:31:56,832 --> 00:32:02,592
My mom drops a bomb on me
that my dad, who raised me,
624
00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:07,587
who loved me, may possibly
not be my biological father.
625
00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:10,972
And I was 19
when that happened.
626
00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:14,431
She tells me she knows
who my biological father is,
627
00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:16,482
and that she's been
in contact with him
628
00:32:16,476 --> 00:32:18,806
and that he's not exactly
the nicest man in the world,
629
00:32:18,812 --> 00:32:22,112
but she wanted me
to make my own decision.
630
00:32:22,107 --> 00:32:24,567
So I reached out to him ‐‐
631
00:32:24,568 --> 00:32:29,408
probably the worst...
mistake of my life.
632
00:32:29,406 --> 00:32:31,526
I remember the first night
meeting him,
633
00:32:31,533 --> 00:32:34,743
he was very open
about everything.
634
00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:36,914
And, uh, one comment
he did make was,
635
00:32:36,913 --> 00:32:38,583
"Tell me how big
his penis was",
636
00:32:38,582 --> 00:32:40,832
which I thought
was really... weird.
637
00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:42,844
Right.
I was a little weirded‐out
about that.
638
00:32:42,836 --> 00:32:48,006
And at this point in time,
I'm in my full, like, sexuality,
639
00:32:48,008 --> 00:32:50,258
I started abusing drugs.
640
00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:52,100
He took advantage of me.
641
00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:54,175
He, um ‐‐ I can't even
believe I'm, like,
642
00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:55,771
ad‐admitting
this right now,
643
00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:58,055
but ‐‐ but it's just
part of my story.
644
00:32:58,059 --> 00:32:59,479
It's ‐‐
Yeah.
645
00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:01,607
And I remember
just being,
646
00:33:01,605 --> 00:33:03,855
like, in and out
of consciousness
647
00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:05,777
and he was touching me,
and ‐‐
648
00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:09,775
But I was so... up
on drugs, I didn't...
649
00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:14,529
It's alright.
I remember, like, crying
hysterically in a corner,
650
00:33:14,534 --> 00:33:19,464
asking him not to touch me,
and he'd do it anyway.
651
00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:21,116
Um...
652
00:33:21,124 --> 00:33:23,004
I was really suicidal
after that,
653
00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:25,171
and I wanted out ‐‐
I wanted out of this world.
654
00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:27,550
I was so disgusted with my‐‐
I couldn't look at myself.
655
00:33:27,547 --> 00:33:29,627
I was so disgusted
with myself.
656
00:33:29,633 --> 00:33:31,593
I want to just breathe
for a second.
657
00:33:31,593 --> 00:33:33,973
Take your time.
658
00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:36,010
[Voice breaking]
It wasn't my fault.
659
00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:39,394
It wasn't my fault!
No.
660
00:33:39,392 --> 00:33:41,142
No matter how old
I was, like,
661
00:33:41,144 --> 00:33:44,484
I was still young‐minded
and he just...
662
00:33:44,481 --> 00:33:47,821
And he knew it.
... with me so bad.
663
00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:51,147
And he mind...
you.
Mm‐hmm.
664
00:33:51,154 --> 00:33:56,584
And I‐I still to this day have
not been able to forgive him.
665
00:33:56,576 --> 00:33:59,116
I want to forgive myself,
but I can't.
666
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,500
I'm not there yet.
667
00:34:00,497 --> 00:34:02,457
That's okay.
Like... you
668
00:34:02,457 --> 00:34:03,827
That's okay.
669
00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:05,963
Trust me, I‐I'm proud of you.
670
00:34:05,961 --> 00:34:08,211
Mm‐hmm.
You're a hero in my eyes.
671
00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:11,013
I'm not sure I could have lived
through what you did.
672
00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:13,127
But I want you to also
understand is,
673
00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:16,394
is that was yesterday,
674
00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:20,428
and I know you know it,
but not under ayahuasca,
675
00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:22,893
and right now your
subconscious is wide‐open
676
00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:25,154
and that's why we're doing
what we're doing.
677
00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:26,936
So what are we doing?
678
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:29,530
Well, what we would like
to do is,
679
00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:33,566
is we've created
this arena of introspection.
680
00:34:33,571 --> 00:34:35,991
It has some TVs and mirrors,
681
00:34:35,991 --> 00:34:38,161
and it's also gonna
show yourself
682
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,699
from a different
perspective.
683
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,793
We're gonna use
the colored light therapy
684
00:34:41,788 --> 00:34:43,958
to work right
with your subconscious.
685
00:34:43,957 --> 00:34:47,877
And I feel you're strong
enough to do this.
686
00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:50,707
She comes from this cauldron
of shit.
687
00:34:50,714 --> 00:34:52,094
This shit soup.
688
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:54,090
But this is where we got
to go in
689
00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:56,392
and kinda change
the neural pathway
690
00:34:56,386 --> 00:34:58,346
to get around these roadblocks
691
00:34:58,346 --> 00:35:01,556
that she hasn't been able
to overcome on her own.
692
00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:04,188
Also, what's gonna be
happening, Teri and I
693
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:07,435
will be using conversational
hypnotic techniques
694
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:10,529
to really seed her mind
with things that will help her
695
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,605
with the challenges
of the days to come.
696
00:35:15,822 --> 00:35:19,992
I want to know, when you look
at yourself, what do you see?
697
00:35:22,329 --> 00:35:24,539
[ Inhales deeply ]
698
00:35:24,539 --> 00:35:27,959
Um...
699
00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:30,299
You know, honestly,
I try not to stare at myself
700
00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:31,755
too much in the mirror.
701
00:35:31,755 --> 00:35:33,755
Okay, can I ask you why
you don't want
702
00:35:33,757 --> 00:35:36,467
to look at yourself
in the mirror?
703
00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:40,718
Probably because of all
the shit that I've dealt with.
704
00:35:40,722 --> 00:35:44,602
And, um, especially
with that situation
705
00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:47,481
with my biological father.
706
00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:50,439
His DNA is running through me ‐‐
we do look similar,
707
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:56,030
and you don't need
to look at that sometimes.
708
00:35:56,029 --> 00:35:58,109
You're
a beautiful woman.
709
00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:00,994
You're an intelligent
woman.
710
00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:03,082
You are kind and loving.
[ Sobbing ]
711
00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:11,132
Do any of those match
your dad?
712
00:36:11,127 --> 00:36:12,707
No.
713
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,297
Steve: And let me tell you
what you ain't.
714
00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:21,471
You're not a slut.
715
00:36:21,471 --> 00:36:23,891
[ Sobs ]
716
00:36:23,890 --> 00:36:26,140
You're not
a piece of shit.
717
00:36:26,142 --> 00:36:29,522
You're not a pile of trash
to be used and thrown away.
718
00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:34,111
And you are not the first person
to fall prey to a predator
719
00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:36,699
using everything
within his means,
720
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:39,565
including
his genetic makeup,
721
00:36:39,572 --> 00:36:44,912
to get what
his instinct desired.
722
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:47,411
And you're not a victim...
723
00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:53,745
...not today
and not tomorrow.
724
00:36:56,172 --> 00:36:59,632
Mother Aya doesn't
come to victims.
725
00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:01,474
No, she comes
to warriors.
726
00:37:01,469 --> 00:37:03,259
To warriors, exactly.
727
00:37:03,263 --> 00:37:05,353
[ Sniffles ]
728
00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:10,148
I will hear his voice
for the rest of my life.
729
00:37:10,145 --> 00:37:14,645
You are not a slut, you are not,
you are not, you are not.
730
00:37:14,649 --> 00:37:17,649
And I will tell you right now,
for him to step in and say,
731
00:37:17,652 --> 00:37:19,992
"You are beautiful,
you are loved,
732
00:37:19,988 --> 00:37:23,318
you are vindicated,
you are free."
733
00:37:23,324 --> 00:37:28,084
I literally, like, felt the
chains just break on my soul.
734
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:35,379
♪♪
735
00:37:38,339 --> 00:37:47,849
♪♪
736
00:37:47,849 --> 00:37:50,559
Ahh.
737
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,940
Leaving Aya Quest, I feel like
I purged myself of the emotions
738
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,860
I no longer need
to hold on to.
739
00:37:57,859 --> 00:38:00,069
I feel connected to others,
740
00:38:00,069 --> 00:38:03,659
I feel my heart is open,
and I feel cleansed.
741
00:38:03,656 --> 00:38:05,986
Hey, how you doing?
742
00:38:05,992 --> 00:38:09,952
It's so hard to explain how
clear your head is, it's just ‐‐
743
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,754
it's, like, I wish there
was a better word for it.
744
00:38:12,749 --> 00:38:14,879
Everyone told me my eyes
were clear.
745
00:38:14,876 --> 00:38:17,086
Like, they kept saying,
"You got really clear eyes."
746
00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:18,916
I don't even know
what that means really,
747
00:38:18,922 --> 00:38:21,722
but I can feel what they
mean because I feel clearer.
748
00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:23,426
I just ‐‐ I didn't want a beer.
749
00:38:23,426 --> 00:38:24,966
I didn't need a beer.
750
00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:27,139
It's something I'm not used to,
751
00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:33,058
and I can't express the amount
of gratitude I have.
752
00:38:33,061 --> 00:38:36,311
Elizabeth:
The biggest lesson that I have
learned from Steve and Teri
753
00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:43,494
is...[Sighs] to honor yourself,
um, in many ways, good and bad.
754
00:38:43,488 --> 00:38:45,488
I got to have a hug
after last night.
755
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:47,950
Come here! Mmm.
756
00:38:47,951 --> 00:38:49,491
That pain you carry around,
you don't ‐‐
757
00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:51,254
you don't need to live there.
758
00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:54,116
You are the master
of your universe.
759
00:38:54,123 --> 00:38:55,713
You paint your picture.
760
00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:58,038
You create it.
761
00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:04,514
Being able to go through my
story in a whole with you two.
762
00:39:04,509 --> 00:39:07,969
You taking it all in,
and me just as is,
763
00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:10,931
good, bad, ugly ‐‐
didn't matter.
764
00:39:10,932 --> 00:39:15,272
And then in turn, being able
to take myself in
765
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:17,560
good, bad, ugly ‐‐
doesn't matter...
766
00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,444
‐Right.
‐Mm‐hmm.
767
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,860
...was the best gift
that I could have been given.
768
00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:25,611
[ Laughs ]
769
00:39:25,613 --> 00:39:29,993
And your bravery, if I had the
congressional medal of honor,
770
00:39:29,993 --> 00:39:33,203
I would give it to you
right now.
771
00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:36,504
I have yet to see anybody
who has honestly
772
00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:39,959
stepped into the muck of what
their past thrust upon them,
773
00:39:39,961 --> 00:39:42,051
and you swam
to the other side.
774
00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:46,126
No matter how you got there,
you got to the other side
775
00:39:46,134 --> 00:39:51,354
through that level of shit
and things that were done to you
776
00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:55,847
by people who were
in control of you.
777
00:39:55,852 --> 00:39:58,772
And any time you ever doubt
yourself,
778
00:39:58,771 --> 00:40:02,651
you remember just
how brave you really are.
779
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:08,070
[ Cries and sniffles ]
780
00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:11,202
It was very important to tell
Elizabeth how brave she was.
781
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,330
And this wasn't no bullshit,
I wasn't making this up.
782
00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:17,169
This lady has some raw courage.
783
00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:20,835
She chose that, "Okay, it's
my past. I'm gonna own it,
784
00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:23,045
I'm gonna work with it,
but guess what?
785
00:40:23,046 --> 00:40:24,626
It ain't gonna own me."
786
00:40:24,631 --> 00:40:28,681
♪♪
787
00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:33,636
[ Thunder rumbling ]
788
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,850
Well, I want to thank each
and every one of you
789
00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:40,060
for coming ‐‐ for experiencing
Mother Aya in your own way.
790
00:40:40,063 --> 00:40:42,653
I would like you all to remember
to make yourself
791
00:40:42,649 --> 00:40:45,689
the number‐one priority
at all times.
792
00:40:45,693 --> 00:40:47,863
You cannot help a single
human being
793
00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:50,032
unless you can
take care of yourself,
794
00:40:50,031 --> 00:40:51,871
and that is something I want you
795
00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:54,866
to keep in the back
of your mind at all times.
796
00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:57,749
That is my best advice
to all of you.
797
00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:59,917
Donavan:
Ayahuasca is not a cure‐all,
798
00:40:59,916 --> 00:41:05,336
but if I really work
with the, uh, experience,
799
00:41:05,338 --> 00:41:07,168
I‐I could have a happy life
800
00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:10,643
without having to drown
myself in alcohol.
801
00:41:10,635 --> 00:41:12,345
It feels amazing.
802
00:41:12,345 --> 00:41:14,555
I've never really felt
like this before.
803
00:41:14,555 --> 00:41:17,385
[ Indistinct conversations ]
804
00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:22,732
Doing ayahuasca was 100%
worth it for me.
805
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:25,980
When I came here, I felt guilt,
806
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:31,864
and a lot of self‐defeat
and lack of love for myself.
807
00:41:31,864 --> 00:41:35,834
And now I feel like
I've accepted these emotions,
808
00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:38,287
and I've purged myself
of the emotions
809
00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:40,957
I no longer need
to hold on to.
810
00:41:40,957 --> 00:41:44,537
And it was just totally healing.
811
00:41:46,671 --> 00:41:48,841
Elizabeth: I feel like I hit
the... lottery.
812
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,970
Ayahuasca was the best thing
that's ever happened to me.
813
00:41:52,969 --> 00:41:55,759
The best thing that has
ever happened to me.
814
00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:57,683
I have forgiven myself.
815
00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:00,692
I don't need to sit in the guilt
or shame anymore.
816
00:42:00,685 --> 00:42:03,555
So now, it's like I'm free.
817
00:42:03,563 --> 00:42:07,073
The chains are broken,
my pieces have been restored.
818
00:42:07,066 --> 00:42:08,776
I found the... key.
819
00:42:08,776 --> 00:42:12,566
I let myself out of jail.
820
00:42:12,572 --> 00:42:15,872
Steve: I cannot put into words
how blessed I am,
821
00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,497
and how fulfilled I am
to be able to fulfill
822
00:42:19,495 --> 00:42:22,415
this very honorable role
of a shaman.
823
00:42:22,415 --> 00:42:26,335
I have seen everybody who
has touched ayahuasca
824
00:42:26,335 --> 00:42:29,625
be touched back
by Mother Aya.
825
00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:33,180
She told me she would have
my back no matter what,
826
00:42:33,176 --> 00:42:37,636
and that she would protect me
and mine through thick and thin.
827
00:42:37,638 --> 00:42:39,598
And I'm gonna tell you what.
828
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:43,389
In 18 years, she has never
let me down one... time.
829
00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:47,074
She has whipped my ass,
she's brought me to my knees,
830
00:42:47,065 --> 00:42:49,435
and she has lifted me
to my feet ‐‐
831
00:42:49,442 --> 00:42:53,652
but not once
has she abandoned me.
832
00:42:53,654 --> 00:42:55,034
I love her.
833
00:42:55,031 --> 00:43:02,411
♪♪
834
00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:10,053
♪♪
835
00:43:10,046 --> 00:43:12,466
Donavan: Now I don't have
a drinking problem.
836
00:43:12,465 --> 00:43:14,625
I just don't drink.
But on top of that,
837
00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:16,474
everything else
is more positive.
838
00:43:16,469 --> 00:43:18,099
I've been living a more
positive life.
839
00:43:18,096 --> 00:43:19,846
Just ‐‐ I just feel happier.
840
00:43:19,847 --> 00:43:32,357
♪♪
841
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:44,910
♪♪
842
00:43:44,914 --> 00:43:48,964
♪♪
843
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,880
It's really amazing, the change
that I have seen in myself
844
00:43:53,881 --> 00:43:56,051
and that others
have also seen in me.
845
00:43:56,050 --> 00:44:01,760
I am so grateful, uh, even
through pain and strife,
846
00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,144
to still be able to
come out on top.
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