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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,503 --> 00:00:07,343 I want to know, when you look at yourself, what do you see? 2 00:00:07,341 --> 00:00:10,141 Honestly, I try not to stare at myself too much in the mirror. 3 00:00:12,221 --> 00:00:15,891 Steve: You're not a slut. [ Sobs ] 4 00:00:15,891 --> 00:00:18,391 You're not a piece of shit. 5 00:00:18,393 --> 00:00:22,693 And you are not the first person to fall prey to a predator. 6 00:00:25,817 --> 00:00:27,607 Steve: I've been a lot of things in my life. 7 00:00:27,611 --> 00:00:30,571 I've been a bank robber and a prisoner, 8 00:00:30,572 --> 00:00:34,662 but being a shaman is my calling. 9 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:37,290 Ayahuasca is a schedule‐I narcotic, 10 00:00:37,287 --> 00:00:40,037 the same as heroin and LSD, 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,630 but it's not a drug, it's medicine, 12 00:00:42,626 --> 00:00:46,796 and in my church, it's a sacrament. 13 00:00:46,797 --> 00:00:48,877 We can do in two days 14 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:52,012 what conventional therapy may take years to do, 15 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:55,470 but only if you are willing to step in to the pain. 16 00:00:55,472 --> 00:01:02,902 ♪♪ 17 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:05,816 I started working with people as a medicine person 18 00:01:05,816 --> 00:01:11,566 and as a shaman approximately 15, 16 years ago. 19 00:01:11,572 --> 00:01:15,992 At the time, I was recently released from prison. 20 00:01:15,993 --> 00:01:18,953 I applied everything that I'd ever learned 21 00:01:18,954 --> 00:01:22,334 while I was a criminal to doing ceremonies underground. 22 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:27,000 If I worked with somebody, 23 00:01:27,004 --> 00:01:29,464 it would be in a different location each time. 24 00:01:29,464 --> 00:01:32,474 And each location would only be used once. 25 00:01:32,467 --> 00:01:35,177 And I made sure my footprint in that location 26 00:01:35,178 --> 00:01:36,508 was incredibly minimal. 27 00:01:39,349 --> 00:01:42,019 Here's this class‐I scheduled substance 28 00:01:42,019 --> 00:01:44,229 that the government looks at the same as meth, 29 00:01:44,229 --> 00:01:46,189 opiates, heroin ‐‐ 30 00:01:46,189 --> 00:01:48,899 and it's healing people right in front of me. 31 00:01:51,403 --> 00:01:53,993 There was many times I was wondering what in the... 32 00:01:53,989 --> 00:01:56,239 am I getting into. 33 00:01:56,241 --> 00:01:59,451 I am not only distributing a class‐I substance, 34 00:01:59,453 --> 00:02:03,083 I'm manufacturing a class‐I substance. 35 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:05,581 If they bust me doing this, 36 00:02:05,584 --> 00:02:07,544 I'm going to prison for the rest of my life. 37 00:02:09,963 --> 00:02:13,133 But you know what? 38 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:16,303 Every time, Mother was there just nudging me ‐‐ 39 00:02:16,303 --> 00:02:17,803 "Come on, dude. You can do this." 40 00:02:20,515 --> 00:02:23,845 I go to the spirits, and they're like, "We got your back. 41 00:02:23,852 --> 00:02:26,692 We need you to trust us. 42 00:02:26,688 --> 00:02:31,438 We need your skill set to bring Mother out of the jungle. 43 00:02:33,945 --> 00:02:38,115 And then, in 2013, gay marriage was starting to become legal 44 00:02:38,116 --> 00:02:39,866 in a handful of states. 45 00:02:39,868 --> 00:02:42,328 And Southern Baptist ministers were scared 46 00:02:42,329 --> 00:02:44,289 that gay couples were gonna come to Kentucky 47 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:46,119 and force them to marry them. 48 00:02:46,124 --> 00:02:48,634 ‐Homosexuals... ‐Kentucky enacted 49 00:02:48,627 --> 00:02:51,377 the Religious Freedom Restoration act. 50 00:02:51,380 --> 00:02:53,510 This act states that the government 51 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:57,797 shall not substantially burden a person's freedom of religion. 52 00:02:57,803 --> 00:03:00,683 Essentially, however people worshipped in their church 53 00:03:00,681 --> 00:03:04,271 was off‐limits to the government. 54 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:06,937 I recognized quickly, that in this act 55 00:03:06,937 --> 00:03:10,977 there was a loophole that I could go legit. 56 00:03:10,982 --> 00:03:13,492 I went to the local authorities, 57 00:03:13,485 --> 00:03:16,235 I filed my paperwork that I was starting a church ‐‐ 58 00:03:16,238 --> 00:03:18,068 of course I didn't mention ayahuasca. 59 00:03:18,073 --> 00:03:20,083 It was just a Native American church 60 00:03:20,075 --> 00:03:23,445 where we were gonna offer spiritual ceremonies. 61 00:03:23,453 --> 00:03:26,423 And that's when we stepped out, planted our flag. 62 00:03:26,415 --> 00:03:30,085 I am here, and I'm giving the most powerful psychedelic 63 00:03:30,085 --> 00:03:33,255 known to man to some of the most unstable people. 64 00:03:33,255 --> 00:03:34,705 And guess what? 65 00:03:34,714 --> 00:03:36,724 We're healing 'em every step of the way. 66 00:03:36,716 --> 00:03:48,766 ♪♪ 67 00:03:48,770 --> 00:03:52,650 Donavan: When I wake up in the mornings, I always have at least one beer 68 00:03:52,649 --> 00:03:54,529 just because I‐I feel sick if I don't. 69 00:03:54,526 --> 00:04:01,776 ♪♪ 70 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:03,833 I'm an alcoholic, for sure. 71 00:04:03,827 --> 00:04:07,997 On average, what I drink a day, after work it's about a 6‐pack. 72 00:04:07,998 --> 00:04:10,538 On a day off work, probably a 12‐pack. 73 00:04:10,542 --> 00:04:13,002 If not, a 24‐pack sometimes. 74 00:04:15,630 --> 00:04:18,470 This morning. 75 00:04:18,467 --> 00:04:20,717 Now I'm pretending being an alcoholic's great ‐‐ 76 00:04:20,719 --> 00:04:22,599 being an alcoholic's fun. 77 00:04:22,596 --> 00:04:24,636 And in reality, it's not. 78 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:26,769 It's definitely gotten me into trouble before. 79 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:30,347 I went to jail because I, um, I was drunk 80 00:04:30,353 --> 00:04:34,113 and had broken out a bunch of car windows. 81 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:36,687 I've woken up on the roofs of bars. 82 00:04:36,693 --> 00:04:39,573 I got Appendicitis from drinking alcohol. 83 00:04:39,571 --> 00:04:42,281 My liver got so inflamed it burst my appendix. 84 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:47,446 The number‐one reason I want to come 85 00:04:47,454 --> 00:04:51,044 and try ayahuasca is to beat my alcoholism. 86 00:04:51,041 --> 00:04:52,831 It'd be really nice to stop drinking, 87 00:04:52,834 --> 00:04:54,174 kind of move on with my life, 88 00:04:54,169 --> 00:04:55,709 try to do something more productive. 89 00:04:55,712 --> 00:05:01,972 ♪♪ 90 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:05,758 Elizabeth: I have past traumas that I carry around with me 91 00:05:05,764 --> 00:05:09,394 like heavy luggage that I need to unpack. 92 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:13,942 For eight years I was addicted pretty heavily to opiates. 93 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:16,819 Got to a point where if I didn't stop what I was doing, 94 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:19,237 I was gonna die. That's what that addiction does. 95 00:05:19,236 --> 00:05:23,316 It takes your life from you piece by piece by piece. 96 00:05:23,323 --> 00:05:31,963 ♪♪ 97 00:05:31,957 --> 00:05:35,377 I am two‐and‐a‐half years clean, 98 00:05:35,377 --> 00:05:38,047 but just ‐‐ just because the drugs are out of the system 99 00:05:38,046 --> 00:05:42,126 doesn't mean that that addict mentality isn't fully gone. 100 00:05:42,133 --> 00:05:45,513 So I had to learn how to re‐live my life 101 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:48,602 and ‐‐ and it's still a struggle to this day. 102 00:05:48,598 --> 00:05:51,768 My intentions for coming here to Aya Quest 103 00:05:51,768 --> 00:05:55,558 are to deal with a lot of my past traumas 104 00:05:55,564 --> 00:05:57,404 that I've been holding on to 105 00:05:57,399 --> 00:05:59,859 that causes anxiety and depression 106 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:02,490 and just ‐‐ just depletes your self‐worth. 107 00:06:02,487 --> 00:06:04,277 And I'm ready to rise above that. 108 00:06:07,617 --> 00:06:09,827 So are you all ready to see 109 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:11,998 where you're going to spend the next couple of days? 110 00:06:11,997 --> 00:06:13,747 ‐Yes. ‐Yes, ma'am. 111 00:06:13,748 --> 00:06:18,628 Alright, well if you all would like to grab your things 112 00:06:18,628 --> 00:06:20,628 and follow me. 113 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,050 Welcome, welcome, welcome. 114 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:30,143 In this group we have Donavan from Tennessee, 115 00:06:30,140 --> 00:06:37,060 Elizabeth from Massachusetts, and we have Emma from Illinois. 116 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:39,073 Ever since I was little, I always felt like 117 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:41,145 I had two sides to me. 118 00:06:41,151 --> 00:06:45,611 Um, and I'm known for being, like, 119 00:06:45,614 --> 00:06:47,914 this happy‐go‐lucky person. 120 00:06:47,908 --> 00:06:50,448 And yet, when I go home, 121 00:06:50,452 --> 00:06:52,452 I feel like I'm going to explode ‐‐ 122 00:06:52,454 --> 00:06:58,504 like I'm just empty inside, and, like, life has no purpose 123 00:06:58,501 --> 00:07:01,381 and there's no ‐‐ there's no‐‐ no reason 124 00:07:01,379 --> 00:07:03,589 for me to wake up in the mornings. 125 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:05,510 No matter what I do, 126 00:07:05,508 --> 00:07:10,258 I always have this lingering depression and anxiety. 127 00:07:10,263 --> 00:07:13,483 And so that's why I'm taking ayahuasca, 128 00:07:13,475 --> 00:07:15,845 so I can find out what the root cause is 129 00:07:15,852 --> 00:07:17,942 and open it up finally ‐‐ 130 00:07:17,937 --> 00:07:20,477 dissect it ‐‐ and move beyond it. 131 00:07:23,693 --> 00:07:25,783 ‐Hello. ‐Hello. 132 00:07:25,779 --> 00:07:28,369 My name is Steve Hupp, I'm the chief shaman 133 00:07:28,365 --> 00:07:30,945 with Aya Quest Native Americas Church. 134 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:32,740 How is everybody doing? 135 00:07:32,744 --> 00:07:34,794 I hope well. 136 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:37,538 I'm a little nervous, but I'm excited. 137 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:39,040 Okay. Well, I appreciate your courage. 138 00:07:39,042 --> 00:07:40,922 I'm probably gonna cry a lot 139 00:07:40,919 --> 00:07:42,749 and want someone to hold my hand a lot. That's okay. 140 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:44,674 That's all good. We're here for you. Okay. Thank you. 141 00:07:44,673 --> 00:07:47,183 But part of this also, remember, is we want you 142 00:07:47,175 --> 00:07:49,255 to get through your rough patches because that's where 143 00:07:49,260 --> 00:07:52,310 the confidence is really gonna be built for you. 144 00:07:52,305 --> 00:07:53,885 Because at the end of this, 145 00:07:53,890 --> 00:07:55,930 we're not gonna be there to hold your hand. 146 00:07:55,934 --> 00:07:59,404 Alright. Now, I know a lot of you right now are nervous 147 00:07:59,396 --> 00:08:01,556 and a little tense, and who wouldn't be? 148 00:08:01,564 --> 00:08:03,694 I remember my first cup. 149 00:08:03,692 --> 00:08:06,032 Now, I can tell you your experience tonight, 150 00:08:06,027 --> 00:08:08,147 especially your first night, we're not gonna push you 151 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:10,164 off a cliff ‐‐ I promise you. 152 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:12,156 We're gonna take it small and incremental 153 00:08:12,158 --> 00:08:14,408 because I want you to find your balance 154 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:16,371 within the medicine tonight. 155 00:08:16,371 --> 00:08:19,331 Teri: So we will do your first cup. 156 00:08:19,332 --> 00:08:21,292 We're gonna give that about 20 or 30 minutes 157 00:08:21,292 --> 00:08:23,552 and then we will do a second cup. 158 00:08:23,545 --> 00:08:25,545 Steve: Let's say you do pick up a cup and you go to drink it, 159 00:08:25,547 --> 00:08:27,547 and your throat just closes. 160 00:08:27,549 --> 00:08:29,429 Spit it right back in the cup. 161 00:08:29,426 --> 00:08:31,006 That's your body telling you right now, 162 00:08:31,010 --> 00:08:32,600 you got everything you need. 163 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:35,055 Just chill out, re‐approach 20 minutes later, 164 00:08:35,056 --> 00:08:38,226 and 9 times out of 10, it'll go down just fine. 165 00:08:38,226 --> 00:08:41,476 So what I'm saying to you is if you're in that sweet spot, 166 00:08:41,479 --> 00:08:43,769 that ain't the time to try to go higher. 167 00:08:43,773 --> 00:08:47,033 Try to learn everything you can while you're there. 168 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:50,157 Oh, man. 169 00:08:50,155 --> 00:08:52,565 Donavan: What's not so nice is when you drink it. 170 00:08:52,574 --> 00:08:57,584 It's like drinking instant coffee that somehow got burnt, 171 00:08:57,579 --> 00:08:59,909 and then was left out in the woods for, 172 00:08:59,914 --> 00:09:01,714 like, three weeks and a cow shit in it. 173 00:09:01,708 --> 00:09:04,588 Like, it's so bad. [ Laughs ] 174 00:09:04,586 --> 00:09:07,456 Elizabeth: I've been sitting in my shit for far too long, 175 00:09:07,464 --> 00:09:10,014 and I feel like ayahuasca is really going to 176 00:09:10,008 --> 00:09:13,048 blow my mind wide the... open on this. 177 00:09:15,305 --> 00:09:17,675 Emma: My stomach was just, like, in knots. 178 00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:19,642 I was like, "I don't know what to expect." 179 00:09:19,642 --> 00:09:21,602 And I was ‐‐ I was terrified. 180 00:09:21,603 --> 00:09:23,943 I'm like, "What did I get myself into?" 181 00:09:23,938 --> 00:09:29,358 ♪♪ 182 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,950 Steve: Ayahuasca's a hallucinogenic tea 183 00:09:31,946 --> 00:09:34,696 made with plants from the Amazon, 184 00:09:34,699 --> 00:09:38,159 and it is the strongest psychedelic known to man. 185 00:09:38,161 --> 00:09:42,001 But this isn't like LSD, ayahuasca's a portal 186 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:44,748 to your inner‐self ‐‐ your subconscious. 187 00:09:44,751 --> 00:09:46,541 And through that portal, 188 00:09:46,544 --> 00:09:49,964 you're gonna meet a goddess we call Mother Aya. 189 00:09:49,964 --> 00:09:52,184 When your journey first takes off, 190 00:09:52,175 --> 00:09:55,795 you may feel euphoria until ‐‐ boom! 191 00:09:55,804 --> 00:10:01,144 The spike hits, and the purge begins. 192 00:10:01,142 --> 00:10:03,522 You may laugh, you may cry, 193 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,110 and you may do both at the same time. 194 00:10:06,106 --> 00:10:08,186 You may puke or shit. 195 00:10:08,191 --> 00:10:11,281 But each of those purges are a physical manifestation 196 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:13,237 of an emotional release. 197 00:10:13,238 --> 00:10:15,618 That's when you truly find healing. 198 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:24,245 ♪♪ 199 00:10:24,249 --> 00:10:25,919 On the day of the ceremony, 200 00:10:25,917 --> 00:10:28,377 it's not recommended to drink any alcohol, 201 00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:31,338 but Donavan's alcoholism runs so deep 202 00:10:31,339 --> 00:10:33,549 he drank a beer that morning. 203 00:10:33,550 --> 00:10:35,340 One beer is gonna take one hour 204 00:10:35,343 --> 00:10:37,553 for your liver to metabolize it, 205 00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:40,644 so he's not gonna have any ill effects by having a beer 206 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,600 that morning and drinking ayahuasca that night. 207 00:10:43,601 --> 00:10:45,441 And I can't have him sitting there going, 208 00:10:45,436 --> 00:10:47,766 "'...' I wish I had a beer right now." 209 00:10:47,772 --> 00:10:49,982 I'd rather you drink that beer. 210 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:53,033 But after noon, I don't want you to have nothing. 211 00:10:53,027 --> 00:10:56,157 And if I find after noon that you had that beer, 212 00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:58,236 you're not drinking ayahuasca that night. 213 00:11:00,869 --> 00:11:03,499 Donavan: I definitely started noticing it 214 00:11:03,496 --> 00:11:06,166 and definitely being sure that I was feeling it. 215 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:08,036 Like, I kinda just kinda felt calm 216 00:11:08,042 --> 00:11:12,342 and like I was kind of moving with the music a little bit. 217 00:11:12,338 --> 00:11:15,378 I think I was ‐‐ I was 19 when I started heavily drinking. 218 00:11:15,383 --> 00:11:17,053 Before that, I hated drinking. 219 00:11:17,051 --> 00:11:19,641 I wanted to do Molly all the time. 220 00:11:19,637 --> 00:11:21,507 I loved Molly. I wanted to do Molly, 221 00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:23,644 I wanted to take acid, I wanted to smoke weed, 222 00:11:23,641 --> 00:11:27,021 I wanted to do your classic rager/party drugs. 223 00:11:27,020 --> 00:11:31,900 Then, uh, I went to jail because I was drunk 224 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:34,650 and had broken out a bunch of car windows. 225 00:11:34,652 --> 00:11:37,822 And they put me on probation. 226 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:41,242 And when I was put on probation, I was getting drug tested. 227 00:11:41,242 --> 00:11:44,542 I couldn't smoke weed anymore, and that was the main drug 228 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:48,877 I was doing ‐‐ so I started drinking. 229 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:52,295 Probation, I‐I like to blame it for making me an alcoholic, 230 00:11:52,295 --> 00:11:53,625 but it's not totally to blame. 231 00:11:53,630 --> 00:11:55,880 But it definitely played a huge role 232 00:11:55,882 --> 00:11:58,302 in me becoming an alcoholic because alcohol's legal. 233 00:11:58,301 --> 00:12:02,931 ♪♪ 234 00:12:02,931 --> 00:12:04,771 Steve: He was drunk, he blacked out, 235 00:12:04,766 --> 00:12:06,306 and didn't know why he was there. 236 00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:07,729 And then when they brought him his paperwork, 237 00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:09,557 it was vehicular homicide. 238 00:12:14,651 --> 00:12:20,111 ♪♪ 239 00:12:20,114 --> 00:12:21,954 Elizabeth: I feel great. 240 00:12:21,950 --> 00:12:24,580 I feel it moving through my belly, though. 241 00:12:24,577 --> 00:12:26,117 Teri: Mm‐hmm. 242 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,710 I think the way it works with everybody 243 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:29,825 is completely different. 244 00:12:29,832 --> 00:12:31,752 All you can do is just roll with it 245 00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:33,801 and let her do what she's gonna do. 246 00:12:33,795 --> 00:12:41,085 ♪♪ 247 00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:43,644 Emma: When I put the hood over my head and started crying, 248 00:12:43,638 --> 00:12:45,348 that was when it was starting to hit me. 249 00:12:45,348 --> 00:12:48,348 And I was, like, really tuning in to the music. 250 00:12:48,351 --> 00:12:52,231 And the music was just so beautiful it just made me cry. 251 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:58,444 Steve: Emma made the comment that she is one that cries a lot, 252 00:12:58,444 --> 00:13:01,114 and she might need somebody to hold her hand. 253 00:13:01,114 --> 00:13:04,664 But if you're just going through a painful process, 254 00:13:04,659 --> 00:13:06,579 you need to go through that. 255 00:13:06,577 --> 00:13:09,077 Sometimes you got to put your big‐girl panties on 256 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,710 and you got to pull them up tight 257 00:13:10,707 --> 00:13:12,207 and you got to walk it off. 258 00:13:16,087 --> 00:13:19,627 My childhood was really a fog to me. 259 00:13:19,632 --> 00:13:22,762 I don't quite remember most of it. 260 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,890 I always say, like, I don't have a lot of memories. 261 00:13:25,888 --> 00:13:27,768 My parents split when I was three, 262 00:13:27,765 --> 00:13:31,595 so I was always back and forth between her and him. 263 00:13:31,602 --> 00:13:34,732 The most explicit memory I have is being six 264 00:13:34,731 --> 00:13:38,901 and my dad had told me that he was gonna take me to court 265 00:13:38,901 --> 00:13:42,951 and I needed to choose between her and him. 266 00:13:42,947 --> 00:13:45,697 He told me that my mom didn't love me 267 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:49,080 and, um, I needed to leave her and that he needed me 268 00:13:49,078 --> 00:13:52,328 and that he was the only one that could take care of me. 269 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:55,041 My father was always very up and down. 270 00:13:55,043 --> 00:13:59,013 I remember going skiing with him and him crying on the chair lift 271 00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:02,085 saying he couldn't live anymore and that he was so miserable 272 00:14:02,091 --> 00:14:04,091 and the only thing that would make him happy 273 00:14:04,093 --> 00:14:06,353 was if I left my mom to come live with him. 274 00:14:06,345 --> 00:14:09,515 And, um, I would just tell him, "Why don't you get a dog? 275 00:14:09,515 --> 00:14:11,385 Why don't you get a dog?" 276 00:14:11,392 --> 00:14:15,812 All that would matter was me choosing him over her. 277 00:14:15,813 --> 00:14:18,363 High school was when I started drinking 278 00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:23,107 because I couldn't handle whatever was ‐‐ 279 00:14:23,112 --> 00:14:25,532 whatever I was feeling. 280 00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:28,371 I'm hoping that ayahuasca will help me with my drinking issues 281 00:14:28,367 --> 00:14:32,157 so I don't allow myself to move past 282 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:34,833 that point of not caring anymore. 283 00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:39,422 ♪♪ 284 00:14:41,672 --> 00:14:46,432 ♪♪ 285 00:14:46,427 --> 00:14:49,927 Steve: With Donavan, we have arranged a photo collage, 286 00:14:49,931 --> 00:14:54,021 if you will, to be placed on a wall through a projector. 287 00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:56,438 We're using the LED lights and colors 288 00:14:56,437 --> 00:14:59,357 to speak directly to his subconscious mind, 289 00:14:59,357 --> 00:15:02,317 while we're using imagery to imprint 290 00:15:02,318 --> 00:15:06,108 and discuss certain painful topics and pleasant topics. 291 00:15:06,114 --> 00:15:08,034 Please, have a seat. 292 00:15:08,032 --> 00:15:11,082 When there was positive scenes up, switch to green. 293 00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:13,957 When there was secure scenes up of family, friends, 294 00:15:13,955 --> 00:15:16,205 and groups, switch to blue. 295 00:15:16,207 --> 00:15:19,337 The reasons is, is blue is a secure color. 296 00:15:19,335 --> 00:15:22,165 When there was jail scenes up, I wanted red. 297 00:15:22,171 --> 00:15:24,841 I wanted that to signal his subconscious, 298 00:15:24,841 --> 00:15:27,591 "You got to stop because this is where alcohol 299 00:15:27,593 --> 00:15:29,393 is gonna lead this young man 300 00:15:29,387 --> 00:15:32,387 if he doesn't get a grip on himself right now. 301 00:15:32,390 --> 00:15:34,060 Where do you see you going in life? 302 00:15:34,058 --> 00:15:36,228 Where do you want to go? Let's ‐‐ Let's talk that. 303 00:15:36,227 --> 00:15:38,517 Obviously, you don't like 304 00:15:38,521 --> 00:15:40,821 how your life is progressing thus far 305 00:15:40,815 --> 00:15:42,185 or you wouldn't be trying to change it. 306 00:15:42,191 --> 00:15:44,441 Is that correct. I think I've been so... 307 00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:47,033 up all the time I haven't actually, like, sat down 308 00:15:47,029 --> 00:15:52,199 and actually put some real, good thought into what I want to do. 309 00:15:52,201 --> 00:15:54,831 Do you drink every day? Just about, yeah. 310 00:15:54,829 --> 00:15:57,499 It makes me sick in the morning if I don't drink a beer. 311 00:15:57,498 --> 00:15:59,498 That's physical withdrawals. 312 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:02,130 Yeah, it is. 313 00:16:02,128 --> 00:16:04,758 You know there's only one way to quit, right? 314 00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:06,545 Quit. Quit. 315 00:16:06,549 --> 00:16:07,879 Quit. 316 00:16:07,884 --> 00:16:10,724 That's the only way. I've been there. 317 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,100 I started drinking when I was five years old 318 00:16:13,097 --> 00:16:15,767 is when they gave me my first taste of whiskey. 319 00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:17,976 I didn't get a handle on my alcoholism 320 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:20,147 till my first D.U.I. 321 00:16:20,146 --> 00:16:24,316 I would like if you would just kind of kick back here 322 00:16:24,317 --> 00:16:26,147 and just sit here for a few minutes, 323 00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:28,992 just watch this imagery and just relax a little bit. 324 00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:35,583 The reason I chose some of these images of incarceration, 325 00:16:35,578 --> 00:16:37,868 because if you keep... up 326 00:16:37,872 --> 00:16:41,172 then that's where you could end. 327 00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:43,087 You know, I was in prison with a guy 328 00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:44,795 who woke up in a jail cell one day 329 00:16:44,795 --> 00:16:47,295 because he was drunk, he blacked out, 330 00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:48,838 and didn't know why he was there. 331 00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:50,341 And then when they brought him his paperwork, 332 00:16:50,343 --> 00:16:53,853 it was vehicular homicide. 333 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:55,466 Your liver. 334 00:16:55,473 --> 00:16:57,893 Your liver's the second largest organ in the body 335 00:16:57,892 --> 00:17:00,942 outside of your skin ‐‐ 336 00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:04,107 and it's the only one you got. 337 00:17:04,106 --> 00:17:07,566 You ever see someone with jaundice, where their liver 338 00:17:07,568 --> 00:17:09,608 ain't functioning and they're all yellow? 339 00:17:09,612 --> 00:17:12,532 And the other side is, alcoholism ain't gonna get 340 00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:14,701 any easier for you to tackle. 341 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,700 It's just gonna get harder the longer 342 00:17:16,702 --> 00:17:19,372 you let it have free hand. 343 00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:21,872 And then you can't do that stuff that you like, 344 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:23,384 with the friends that you want, 345 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:27,336 and the family that you could build. 346 00:17:27,338 --> 00:17:30,338 And while you might have thought about this in many other ways, 347 00:17:30,341 --> 00:17:32,131 in many other places, 348 00:17:32,134 --> 00:17:34,264 you've never done it while you're under ayahuasca, 349 00:17:34,262 --> 00:17:37,312 and that's why we're doing this ‐‐ 350 00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:39,766 just to give you some time to think. 351 00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:42,597 'Cause, Donavan, you're a good guy. 352 00:17:42,603 --> 00:17:44,273 You got a lot going for you. 353 00:17:44,272 --> 00:17:47,152 You got a lot to offer the world. 354 00:17:47,149 --> 00:17:48,819 When I was working with Donavan, 355 00:17:48,818 --> 00:17:50,898 the first thing that came to me is, 356 00:17:50,903 --> 00:17:54,243 "He hasn't really, seriously grasped 357 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,740 the depths of his addiction." 358 00:17:57,743 --> 00:18:00,163 And that's where I'm not sure. 359 00:18:00,162 --> 00:18:04,502 Is he at a place that he truly wants to change. 360 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,880 But you know the one thing that I do know, that I do know 361 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:10,878 I cannot make any prediction on a first night and that is, 362 00:18:10,881 --> 00:18:12,591 Mother Aya. 363 00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:17,052 Mother Aya's the wild card to all of this. 364 00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:18,894 Donavan: Definitely being upstairs with Steve 365 00:18:18,889 --> 00:18:21,849 really triggered the ayahuasca. 366 00:18:21,851 --> 00:18:24,441 It started getting it going, it started, uh, helping me 367 00:18:24,437 --> 00:18:26,147 kind of feel the effects. 368 00:18:30,318 --> 00:18:34,108 I started off seeing, um, my own face. 369 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:35,873 And it wasn't like looking in a mirror, 370 00:18:35,865 --> 00:18:38,235 it was like looking at another person, but i‐it was me. 371 00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,872 It was my own face, and it's so hard 372 00:18:39,869 --> 00:18:43,289 to picture that in ‐‐ in your own head. 373 00:18:43,289 --> 00:18:46,169 I started feeling the effects a little stronger. 374 00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:49,917 I started feeling, like, all at once alcohol withdrawal 375 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,340 would hit me ‐‐ I was getting shakes. 376 00:18:54,175 --> 00:18:58,095 And then I purged very hard. 377 00:18:58,095 --> 00:19:00,555 I don't know what it was, something came out, man. 378 00:19:02,642 --> 00:19:04,232 I think it was good. 379 00:19:04,226 --> 00:19:06,306 I think that was good for me, for sure, 380 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:10,192 to ‐‐ to ‐‐ to let all that ‐‐ that bad, just toxic shit out. 381 00:19:10,191 --> 00:19:11,781 Just kinda purge it out. 382 00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:14,446 ‐You alright, bro? ‐Y‐Yeah, I'm fine. 383 00:19:14,445 --> 00:19:17,485 [ Laughs ] ... 384 00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:21,913 Elizabeth: I found my biological father. 385 00:19:21,911 --> 00:19:24,961 He would tell me, "It's natural for you to want me 386 00:19:24,955 --> 00:19:25,915 the way that I want you." 387 00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:43,348 ♪♪ 388 00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:46,639 ♪♪ 389 00:19:46,644 --> 00:19:49,064 Steve: The day after your first night's ceremony 390 00:19:49,063 --> 00:19:51,943 is an incredibly important day for the main reason of, 391 00:19:51,941 --> 00:19:53,651 people are processing. 392 00:19:53,651 --> 00:19:56,701 And they're processing sometimes raw emotions 393 00:19:56,696 --> 00:20:01,116 that are still bubbling up to the surface. 394 00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:03,577 I feel really good, very relaxed at the moment. 395 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:04,947 [ Laughs ] 396 00:20:04,954 --> 00:20:06,624 I already feel Mother Aya's 397 00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:09,792 working through my system and she has incorporated 398 00:20:09,792 --> 00:20:13,172 a lot of good already, even with my past. 399 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:15,170 I already feel more at peace with it. 400 00:20:17,466 --> 00:20:21,176 Between ages four and seven, I was sexually abused. 401 00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:22,638 I don't know who. 402 00:20:22,638 --> 00:20:24,888 I just remember distinct things, 403 00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:27,350 being told to keep something a secret. 404 00:20:27,351 --> 00:20:28,941 Seeing male genitals 405 00:20:28,936 --> 00:20:31,356 and not understanding what was going on. 406 00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:36,025 Being touched and being told that ‐‐ that it was our secret. 407 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:40,316 And around 14, I had started dabbling in drinking alcohol, 408 00:20:40,322 --> 00:20:41,872 marijuana, 409 00:20:41,866 --> 00:20:45,326 and then it just graduated to opiates 410 00:20:45,327 --> 00:20:49,617 because of whatever memories that would flood my mind 411 00:20:49,623 --> 00:20:52,543 I wanted to numb myself from ‐‐ so that's what I did. 412 00:20:52,543 --> 00:20:54,133 I numbed. 413 00:20:58,883 --> 00:21:01,973 When I was 19 years old, I was told by my mother 414 00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:03,719 that there is a big possibility 415 00:21:03,721 --> 00:21:08,931 that my father was not possibly biologically mine. 416 00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:15,274 So I reached out and found my supposed biological father, 417 00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:20,574 and, uh, he's a pretty awful man. 418 00:21:20,571 --> 00:21:25,161 I remember being really... up on drugs, and I ‐‐ 419 00:21:25,159 --> 00:21:29,619 I blacked out and ‐‐ and when I came to, he was touching me. 420 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,962 He would tell me, you know, "These are all feelings 421 00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:36,548 that it's natural for you to feel sexually toward me. 422 00:21:36,545 --> 00:21:39,045 It's natural for you to, um, 423 00:21:39,048 --> 00:21:41,178 want me the way that I want you." 424 00:21:41,175 --> 00:21:45,215 And then right after the act went down, I‐I would throw up. 425 00:21:45,221 --> 00:21:46,851 I‐‐ [ Sighs ] 426 00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:48,967 It was ‐‐ It was awful. 427 00:21:48,974 --> 00:21:50,644 It was awful and confusing, 428 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:52,853 and ‐‐ and I didn't know what to make of it. 429 00:21:52,853 --> 00:21:55,693 It made me feel dirty. 430 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:57,359 It was a disgusting feeling, 431 00:21:57,358 --> 00:21:59,318 and I just wanted to kill myself. 432 00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:03,028 I‐I was ready and willing to leave this earth. 433 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:10,197 Because of all these situations in my life, 434 00:22:10,204 --> 00:22:14,964 I feel at a very young age being ‐‐ being touched 435 00:22:14,959 --> 00:22:17,419 equaled being loved beyond measure. 436 00:22:17,419 --> 00:22:21,129 I would really like to, uh, change that way of thinking ‐‐ 437 00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:23,221 that sex no longer equals love. 438 00:22:23,217 --> 00:22:25,547 It can be a part of love, and a beautiful part of it at that, 439 00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:28,263 but it doesn't mean love. 440 00:22:28,264 --> 00:22:40,824 ♪♪ 441 00:22:40,818 --> 00:22:47,158 ♪♪ 442 00:22:47,157 --> 00:22:48,907 Steve: So how are we doing? 443 00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:50,909 Elizabeth: Please go down and not come right back up. 444 00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:53,001 Oh, you're gonna talk to it already, huh? Yes. 445 00:22:52,997 --> 00:22:55,167 [ Laughter ] I don't blame you. I don't blame you. 446 00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:57,915 That's a good, beautiful way to start. Beautiful way. 447 00:22:57,918 --> 00:23:00,668 Cups will be coming at you much faster tonight, 448 00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:02,591 but again, you've got to be the judge 449 00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:03,800 on whether you drink or not. 450 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,469 This is not a drinking game. 451 00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:07,797 We just make it available and it's up to you 452 00:23:07,803 --> 00:23:10,813 to how far you feel you need to go or proceed. 453 00:23:10,806 --> 00:23:19,226 ♪♪ 454 00:23:19,231 --> 00:23:23,071 We are a spiritual triage. 455 00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:25,778 We only have two to three days with you, 456 00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:30,119 and we do what no other medical establishment can do in years. 457 00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:32,617 And that is give you a brand‐new life, 458 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:34,830 a brand‐new connection to the Universe, 459 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:37,080 and a whole, brand‐new you. 460 00:23:37,082 --> 00:23:47,552 ♪♪ 461 00:23:47,551 --> 00:23:51,721 Donavan: The second night was really euphoric, um, right off the bat. 462 00:23:51,722 --> 00:23:54,352 The first night felt like alcohol withdrawals all at once. 463 00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:57,440 The second night was a lot different. 464 00:24:00,731 --> 00:24:06,491 And that's when I saw, like, this big, red, fiery eye ‐‐ 465 00:24:06,487 --> 00:24:09,367 like a‐a‐a‐a cosmic eyeball. 466 00:24:09,365 --> 00:24:12,275 Um, it was a little freaky. 467 00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:14,244 So I opened my eyes, um, I was like, 468 00:24:14,244 --> 00:24:17,414 "Hold on. W‐W‐W‐Wait a sec. I'm ‐‐ I'm, like, I'm ‐‐ 469 00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:19,544 I'm about to get burned down by this eyeball. 470 00:24:19,541 --> 00:24:23,001 And then, uh, it just kind of dispersed and it was gone, 471 00:24:23,003 --> 00:24:27,933 and I was in complete nothingness ‐‐ 472 00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,335 no sound, n‐nothing. 473 00:24:30,344 --> 00:24:31,644 I wasn't even thinking. 474 00:24:31,637 --> 00:24:33,597 It was just, I was present. 475 00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,307 It was such a disembodiment, 476 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:41,107 um, it was like only my consciousness was in this. 477 00:24:43,357 --> 00:24:45,357 I came out of that feeling so good. 478 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,069 It just felt ‐‐ it felt great. 479 00:24:47,069 --> 00:24:49,319 It felt like everything had been lifted off my shoulders. 480 00:24:52,783 --> 00:24:55,913 I would drink to the point of severe blackouts, like, 481 00:24:55,911 --> 00:24:57,791 would wake up in hospitals 482 00:24:57,788 --> 00:24:59,248 or wake up not knowing where I was. 483 00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:09,091 ♪♪ 484 00:25:09,091 --> 00:25:11,011 Steve: Part of Emma's problem is, 485 00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:15,220 is all she wanted to do was love and help her daddy. 486 00:25:15,222 --> 00:25:18,352 And all her daddy did was tell her 487 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:20,350 how bad of a job she'd done. 488 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,855 Tonight with Emma, 489 00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:28,107 I chose to use the tent to create a symbolic womb... 490 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,610 Okay, just watch your step coming up. 491 00:25:30,612 --> 00:25:33,242 ...a symbolic safe space 492 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,490 that will be lighted up with different colors 493 00:25:35,492 --> 00:25:37,792 that give her something to hold her visuals 494 00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:40,366 while the medicine and the light show is working 495 00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,752 so I can give her to Mother Aya 496 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:45,840 in a place that she'll be more open 497 00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:49,506 and more likely to accept the subtle messages 498 00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:52,466 that Mother's gonna give her. 499 00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:53,798 What was your life like? 500 00:25:53,802 --> 00:25:56,392 Start as soon as you can remember. 501 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:59,638 Um, I don't remember a lot of my childhood, 502 00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:04,271 but the parts that I do, a lot of it was, um, 503 00:26:04,271 --> 00:26:08,151 counseling my dad through his bipolar disorder. 504 00:26:08,150 --> 00:26:10,280 And how old were you when you were doing this? 505 00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:12,317 Like six years old. Wow. 506 00:26:12,321 --> 00:26:15,451 So a lot of things just fell on me to, 507 00:26:15,449 --> 00:26:17,239 you know, look out for myself, 508 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:20,002 but also look out to make sure my parents were happy. 509 00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:22,075 Tell me about your relationship with your mom. 510 00:26:22,081 --> 00:26:23,461 How was ‐‐ How was that? 511 00:26:23,457 --> 00:26:25,877 It was nonexistent because I thought ‐‐ 512 00:26:25,876 --> 00:26:29,416 I didn't trust her because he had told me at a young age 513 00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:31,171 that my mom didn't love me 514 00:26:31,173 --> 00:26:32,633 and she would never take care of me 515 00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:35,013 and that I needed to leave her. 516 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:37,930 And he told me that he would, like, never be happy 517 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,640 unless I would do that. 518 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,770 Well, and unfortunately for you, 519 00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:44,387 there is a thing called sexless incest. 520 00:26:44,394 --> 00:26:46,234 And what it is is it's where 521 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:51,150 you have to fulfill a role of a friend. 522 00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,071 Okay, it doesn't mean that anything 523 00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:55,240 inappropriate happened physically. Yeah. 524 00:26:55,239 --> 00:26:57,319 But what you're describing to me is, 525 00:26:57,324 --> 00:27:00,244 is you had to help your dad at six years old deal 526 00:27:00,244 --> 00:27:02,164 with a mental illness. Yeah. 527 00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:04,962 And he wanted you in his life to fill the holes 528 00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:07,127 when his other females wasn't there. 529 00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:09,626 Mm‐hmm. Exactly. 530 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,708 If you could just take away anything that your dad 531 00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:14,134 put upon you, what would it be? 532 00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:15,763 One thing. 533 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:18,259 Guilt. Guilt. 534 00:27:18,262 --> 00:27:21,602 I think it's why I feel like I have no self‐worth. 535 00:27:21,598 --> 00:27:23,518 Because, it's like, "Oh, you're worthless. 536 00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:25,137 What does it matter?" 537 00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:27,813 You did nothing wrong. Y‐You know, you were a child. 538 00:27:27,813 --> 00:27:32,993 You had no ‐‐ no idea that you were being manipulated, 539 00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:38,275 and you did the best you could given the circumstances. 540 00:27:38,282 --> 00:27:40,202 Could you tell me a little bit about the drinking ‐‐ 541 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,200 when it began? 542 00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:46,582 It fell really out of control a few years ago. 543 00:27:46,582 --> 00:27:49,672 It became binge drinking, where ‐‐ 544 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:52,298 where the chances I could get drunk, 545 00:27:52,296 --> 00:27:55,376 I would drink to the point of, like, severe blackouts. 546 00:27:55,382 --> 00:27:57,432 Like, would wake up in hospitals 547 00:27:57,426 --> 00:27:59,256 or wake up not knowing where I was. 548 00:27:59,261 --> 00:28:01,391 When was the last blackout that you had? 549 00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,678 Like a few weeks ago. 550 00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:06,022 Um... Yeah. 551 00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:08,938 You were self‐medicating a lot. Mm‐hmm. 552 00:28:08,937 --> 00:28:11,357 That's when the guilt was eating you up. 553 00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:13,686 Yeah. And, you know, here's ‐‐ here's the flip side. 554 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,612 You have to be an incredibly caring lady 555 00:28:16,612 --> 00:28:18,742 to, at six years old, 556 00:28:18,739 --> 00:28:23,789 know your... up in the head dad needs some help. 557 00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:26,995 And you tried. But you know what? 558 00:28:26,997 --> 00:28:29,667 That wasn't your weight to carry. 559 00:28:29,666 --> 00:28:34,166 You didn't fail him, he failed you. 560 00:28:34,171 --> 00:28:35,671 As I'm talking to Emma, 561 00:28:35,672 --> 00:28:37,972 I'm recognizing a strong confidence 562 00:28:37,966 --> 00:28:40,836 coming through her eyes, through her demeanor. 563 00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:44,814 Yesterday, before ayahuasca, she had no control emotionally. 564 00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:47,556 She would cry at a drop of a hat. 565 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:52,559 And tonight, we touched every painful topic in her life, 566 00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:56,614 and I've only seen two times that tears came to her eyes. 567 00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:59,820 That's progress. That's making peace. 568 00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:03,241 That is stability starting to interweave 569 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,701 back into her reality. 570 00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:09,542 That's healing. 571 00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:12,329 Emma: The ayahuasca was, like ‐‐ something was just, 572 00:29:12,334 --> 00:29:14,424 like, opening me up 573 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,799 and she was saying, like, "It's time. 574 00:29:16,797 --> 00:29:18,627 Like, we're gonna do this." 575 00:29:18,632 --> 00:29:20,302 I was looking up at the ceiling 576 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:22,720 and everything just started vibrating, 577 00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:26,599 and then suctioning out. 578 00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:31,848 That helped catapult me into my journey with Mother Aya. 579 00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:35,573 And She said, "You fill yourself with black energy. 580 00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:39,525 You cannot do that because you are actually a ball of light. 581 00:29:39,528 --> 00:29:42,068 You are this divine entity." 582 00:29:42,072 --> 00:29:45,332 It was the most nurturing and loving voice. 583 00:29:45,325 --> 00:29:47,445 And, like, I felt so lucky. 584 00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,252 Like, I remember feeling like, "Oh, my gosh. 585 00:29:49,246 --> 00:29:51,576 I'm so lucky she's treating me with so much love. 586 00:29:51,581 --> 00:29:55,171 She's treating me with so much love." 587 00:29:55,168 --> 00:30:00,338 I definitely feel like that small child in me was healing. 588 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:03,840 I feel like she was kind of almost walking away finally. 589 00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:10,314 And she just exited me, and for the first time 590 00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:13,478 just said, "We can ‐‐ We can move on now." 591 00:30:16,356 --> 00:30:19,026 [Crying] It wasn't my fault. 592 00:30:19,026 --> 00:30:20,936 It's okay. ... you. 593 00:30:20,944 --> 00:30:23,324 Elizabeth: I knew something was about to go down. 594 00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:33,576 ♪♪ 595 00:30:33,582 --> 00:30:37,292 [ Drum beats ] 596 00:30:37,294 --> 00:30:44,634 ♪♪ 597 00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:46,684 Steve: Elizabeth is gonna be a tough case 598 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:49,768 because she comes from a lot of trauma. 599 00:30:49,765 --> 00:30:52,845 She had a biological father who, 600 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:55,771 for all intents and purposes, raped her. 601 00:30:55,771 --> 00:30:58,071 I'm hopeful that Mother Aya tonight 602 00:30:58,065 --> 00:30:59,935 will really touch her heart 603 00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:04,571 and her mind with pure, unconditional love. 604 00:31:04,571 --> 00:31:07,491 You get that chair sitting there by itself. 605 00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:09,331 ‐Right there. ‐Right here? 606 00:31:09,326 --> 00:31:11,326 ‐Okay. ‐And it's just us. 607 00:31:11,328 --> 00:31:13,208 [Voice breaking ] I just got really emotional coming in here. 608 00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,365 Steve: That's all good. Teri: That's okay. 609 00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:16,963 It's okay. [ Laughs ] 610 00:31:16,958 --> 00:31:18,628 That's what we came for 611 00:31:18,627 --> 00:31:20,797 is to crack some of these emotions. 612 00:31:20,796 --> 00:31:23,506 And to help us heal. [ Sobbing ] 613 00:31:23,507 --> 00:31:28,137 That's okay. And just take you a moment. 614 00:31:28,136 --> 00:31:31,386 Elizabeth: Mother Aya now is running through my veins and my system 615 00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:35,099 and, you know, I'm kind of tripping out in a sense. 616 00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:37,272 And I knew ‐‐ 617 00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:40,520 I knew something, like, legit was about to go down. 618 00:31:40,524 --> 00:31:43,574 It's just how far I was willing to go with it 619 00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:45,648 was ‐‐ was the question. 620 00:31:45,654 --> 00:31:48,994 You share with me what you can. Okay. 621 00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:51,870 But try to go as deep as you can. 622 00:31:51,868 --> 00:31:54,328 There you go. [ Inhales, exhales deeply ] 623 00:31:56,832 --> 00:32:02,592 My mom drops a bomb on me that my dad, who raised me, 624 00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:07,587 who loved me, may possibly not be my biological father. 625 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:10,972 And I was 19 when that happened. 626 00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:14,431 She tells me she knows who my biological father is, 627 00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:16,482 and that she's been in contact with him 628 00:32:16,476 --> 00:32:18,806 and that he's not exactly the nicest man in the world, 629 00:32:18,812 --> 00:32:22,112 but she wanted me to make my own decision. 630 00:32:22,107 --> 00:32:24,567 So I reached out to him ‐‐ 631 00:32:24,568 --> 00:32:29,408 probably the worst... mistake of my life. 632 00:32:29,406 --> 00:32:31,526 I remember the first night meeting him, 633 00:32:31,533 --> 00:32:34,743 he was very open about everything. 634 00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:36,914 And, uh, one comment he did make was, 635 00:32:36,913 --> 00:32:38,583 "Tell me how big his penis was", 636 00:32:38,582 --> 00:32:40,832 which I thought was really... weird. 637 00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:42,844 Right. I was a little weirded‐out about that. 638 00:32:42,836 --> 00:32:48,006 And at this point in time, I'm in my full, like, sexuality, 639 00:32:48,008 --> 00:32:50,258 I started abusing drugs. 640 00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:52,100 He took advantage of me. 641 00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:54,175 He, um ‐‐ I can't even believe I'm, like, 642 00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:55,771 ad‐admitting this right now, 643 00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:58,055 but ‐‐ but it's just part of my story. 644 00:32:58,059 --> 00:32:59,479 It's ‐‐ Yeah. 645 00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:01,607 And I remember just being, 646 00:33:01,605 --> 00:33:03,855 like, in and out of consciousness 647 00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:05,777 and he was touching me, and ‐‐ 648 00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:09,775 But I was so... up on drugs, I didn't... 649 00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:14,529 It's alright. I remember, like, crying hysterically in a corner, 650 00:33:14,534 --> 00:33:19,464 asking him not to touch me, and he'd do it anyway. 651 00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:21,116 Um... 652 00:33:21,124 --> 00:33:23,004 I was really suicidal after that, 653 00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:25,171 and I wanted out ‐‐ I wanted out of this world. 654 00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:27,550 I was so disgusted with my‐‐ I couldn't look at myself. 655 00:33:27,547 --> 00:33:29,627 I was so disgusted with myself. 656 00:33:29,633 --> 00:33:31,593 I want to just breathe for a second. 657 00:33:31,593 --> 00:33:33,973 Take your time. 658 00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:36,010 [Voice breaking] It wasn't my fault. 659 00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:39,394 It wasn't my fault! No. 660 00:33:39,392 --> 00:33:41,142 No matter how old I was, like, 661 00:33:41,144 --> 00:33:44,484 I was still young‐minded and he just... 662 00:33:44,481 --> 00:33:47,821 And he knew it. ... with me so bad. 663 00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:51,147 And he mind... you. Mm‐hmm. 664 00:33:51,154 --> 00:33:56,584 And I‐I still to this day have not been able to forgive him. 665 00:33:56,576 --> 00:33:59,116 I want to forgive myself, but I can't. 666 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,500 I'm not there yet. 667 00:34:00,497 --> 00:34:02,457 That's okay. Like... you 668 00:34:02,457 --> 00:34:03,827 That's okay. 669 00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:05,963 Trust me, I‐I'm proud of you. 670 00:34:05,961 --> 00:34:08,211 Mm‐hmm. You're a hero in my eyes. 671 00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:11,013 I'm not sure I could have lived through what you did. 672 00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:13,127 But I want you to also understand is, 673 00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:16,394 is that was yesterday, 674 00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:20,428 and I know you know it, but not under ayahuasca, 675 00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:22,893 and right now your subconscious is wide‐open 676 00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:25,154 and that's why we're doing what we're doing. 677 00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:26,936 So what are we doing? 678 00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:29,530 Well, what we would like to do is, 679 00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:33,566 is we've created this arena of introspection. 680 00:34:33,571 --> 00:34:35,991 It has some TVs and mirrors, 681 00:34:35,991 --> 00:34:38,161 and it's also gonna show yourself 682 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,699 from a different perspective. 683 00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,793 We're gonna use the colored light therapy 684 00:34:41,788 --> 00:34:43,958 to work right with your subconscious. 685 00:34:43,957 --> 00:34:47,877 And I feel you're strong enough to do this. 686 00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:50,707 She comes from this cauldron of shit. 687 00:34:50,714 --> 00:34:52,094 This shit soup. 688 00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:54,090 But this is where we got to go in 689 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:56,392 and kinda change the neural pathway 690 00:34:56,386 --> 00:34:58,346 to get around these roadblocks 691 00:34:58,346 --> 00:35:01,556 that she hasn't been able to overcome on her own. 692 00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:04,188 Also, what's gonna be happening, Teri and I 693 00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:07,435 will be using conversational hypnotic techniques 694 00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:10,529 to really seed her mind with things that will help her 695 00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,605 with the challenges of the days to come. 696 00:35:15,822 --> 00:35:19,992 I want to know, when you look at yourself, what do you see? 697 00:35:22,329 --> 00:35:24,539 [ Inhales deeply ] 698 00:35:24,539 --> 00:35:27,959 Um... 699 00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:30,299 You know, honestly, I try not to stare at myself 700 00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:31,755 too much in the mirror. 701 00:35:31,755 --> 00:35:33,755 Okay, can I ask you why you don't want 702 00:35:33,757 --> 00:35:36,467 to look at yourself in the mirror? 703 00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:40,718 Probably because of all the shit that I've dealt with. 704 00:35:40,722 --> 00:35:44,602 And, um, especially with that situation 705 00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:47,481 with my biological father. 706 00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:50,439 His DNA is running through me ‐‐ we do look similar, 707 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:56,030 and you don't need to look at that sometimes. 708 00:35:56,029 --> 00:35:58,109 You're a beautiful woman. 709 00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:00,994 You're an intelligent woman. 710 00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:03,082 You are kind and loving. [ Sobbing ] 711 00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:11,132 Do any of those match your dad? 712 00:36:11,127 --> 00:36:12,707 No. 713 00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,297 Steve: And let me tell you what you ain't. 714 00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:21,471 You're not a slut. 715 00:36:21,471 --> 00:36:23,891 [ Sobs ] 716 00:36:23,890 --> 00:36:26,140 You're not a piece of shit. 717 00:36:26,142 --> 00:36:29,522 You're not a pile of trash to be used and thrown away. 718 00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:34,111 And you are not the first person to fall prey to a predator 719 00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:36,699 using everything within his means, 720 00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:39,565 including his genetic makeup, 721 00:36:39,572 --> 00:36:44,912 to get what his instinct desired. 722 00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:47,411 And you're not a victim... 723 00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:53,745 ...not today and not tomorrow. 724 00:36:56,172 --> 00:36:59,632 Mother Aya doesn't come to victims. 725 00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:01,474 No, she comes to warriors. 726 00:37:01,469 --> 00:37:03,259 To warriors, exactly. 727 00:37:03,263 --> 00:37:05,353 [ Sniffles ] 728 00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:10,148 I will hear his voice for the rest of my life. 729 00:37:10,145 --> 00:37:14,645 You are not a slut, you are not, you are not, you are not. 730 00:37:14,649 --> 00:37:17,649 And I will tell you right now, for him to step in and say, 731 00:37:17,652 --> 00:37:19,992 "You are beautiful, you are loved, 732 00:37:19,988 --> 00:37:23,318 you are vindicated, you are free." 733 00:37:23,324 --> 00:37:28,084 I literally, like, felt the chains just break on my soul. 734 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:35,379 ♪♪ 735 00:37:38,339 --> 00:37:47,849 ♪♪ 736 00:37:47,849 --> 00:37:50,559 Ahh. 737 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,940 Leaving Aya Quest, I feel like I purged myself of the emotions 738 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,860 I no longer need to hold on to. 739 00:37:57,859 --> 00:38:00,069 I feel connected to others, 740 00:38:00,069 --> 00:38:03,659 I feel my heart is open, and I feel cleansed. 741 00:38:03,656 --> 00:38:05,986 Hey, how you doing? 742 00:38:05,992 --> 00:38:09,952 It's so hard to explain how clear your head is, it's just ‐‐ 743 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,754 it's, like, I wish there was a better word for it. 744 00:38:12,749 --> 00:38:14,879 Everyone told me my eyes were clear. 745 00:38:14,876 --> 00:38:17,086 Like, they kept saying, "You got really clear eyes." 746 00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:18,916 I don't even know what that means really, 747 00:38:18,922 --> 00:38:21,722 but I can feel what they mean because I feel clearer. 748 00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:23,426 I just ‐‐ I didn't want a beer. 749 00:38:23,426 --> 00:38:24,966 I didn't need a beer. 750 00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:27,139 It's something I'm not used to, 751 00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:33,058 and I can't express the amount of gratitude I have. 752 00:38:33,061 --> 00:38:36,311 Elizabeth: The biggest lesson that I have learned from Steve and Teri 753 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:43,494 is...[Sighs] to honor yourself, um, in many ways, good and bad. 754 00:38:43,488 --> 00:38:45,488 I got to have a hug after last night. 755 00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:47,950 Come here! Mmm. 756 00:38:47,951 --> 00:38:49,491 That pain you carry around, you don't ‐‐ 757 00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:51,254 you don't need to live there. 758 00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:54,116 You are the master of your universe. 759 00:38:54,123 --> 00:38:55,713 You paint your picture. 760 00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:58,038 You create it. 761 00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:04,514 Being able to go through my story in a whole with you two. 762 00:39:04,509 --> 00:39:07,969 You taking it all in, and me just as is, 763 00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:10,931 good, bad, ugly ‐‐ didn't matter. 764 00:39:10,932 --> 00:39:15,272 And then in turn, being able to take myself in 765 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:17,560 good, bad, ugly ‐‐ doesn't matter... 766 00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,444 ‐Right. ‐Mm‐hmm. 767 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,860 ...was the best gift that I could have been given. 768 00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:25,611 [ Laughs ] 769 00:39:25,613 --> 00:39:29,993 And your bravery, if I had the congressional medal of honor, 770 00:39:29,993 --> 00:39:33,203 I would give it to you right now. 771 00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:36,504 I have yet to see anybody who has honestly 772 00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:39,959 stepped into the muck of what their past thrust upon them, 773 00:39:39,961 --> 00:39:42,051 and you swam to the other side. 774 00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:46,126 No matter how you got there, you got to the other side 775 00:39:46,134 --> 00:39:51,354 through that level of shit and things that were done to you 776 00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:55,847 by people who were in control of you. 777 00:39:55,852 --> 00:39:58,772 And any time you ever doubt yourself, 778 00:39:58,771 --> 00:40:02,651 you remember just how brave you really are. 779 00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:08,070 [ Cries and sniffles ] 780 00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:11,202 It was very important to tell Elizabeth how brave she was. 781 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,330 And this wasn't no bullshit, I wasn't making this up. 782 00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:17,169 This lady has some raw courage. 783 00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:20,835 She chose that, "Okay, it's my past. I'm gonna own it, 784 00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:23,045 I'm gonna work with it, but guess what? 785 00:40:23,046 --> 00:40:24,626 It ain't gonna own me." 786 00:40:24,631 --> 00:40:28,681 ♪♪ 787 00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:33,636 [ Thunder rumbling ] 788 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,850 Well, I want to thank each and every one of you 789 00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:40,060 for coming ‐‐ for experiencing Mother Aya in your own way. 790 00:40:40,063 --> 00:40:42,653 I would like you all to remember to make yourself 791 00:40:42,649 --> 00:40:45,689 the number‐one priority at all times. 792 00:40:45,693 --> 00:40:47,863 You cannot help a single human being 793 00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:50,032 unless you can take care of yourself, 794 00:40:50,031 --> 00:40:51,871 and that is something I want you 795 00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:54,866 to keep in the back of your mind at all times. 796 00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:57,749 That is my best advice to all of you. 797 00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:59,917 Donavan: Ayahuasca is not a cure‐all, 798 00:40:59,916 --> 00:41:05,336 but if I really work with the, uh, experience, 799 00:41:05,338 --> 00:41:07,168 I‐I could have a happy life 800 00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:10,643 without having to drown myself in alcohol. 801 00:41:10,635 --> 00:41:12,345 It feels amazing. 802 00:41:12,345 --> 00:41:14,555 I've never really felt like this before. 803 00:41:14,555 --> 00:41:17,385 [ Indistinct conversations ] 804 00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:22,732 Doing ayahuasca was 100% worth it for me. 805 00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:25,980 When I came here, I felt guilt, 806 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:31,864 and a lot of self‐defeat and lack of love for myself. 807 00:41:31,864 --> 00:41:35,834 And now I feel like I've accepted these emotions, 808 00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:38,287 and I've purged myself of the emotions 809 00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:40,957 I no longer need to hold on to. 810 00:41:40,957 --> 00:41:44,537 And it was just totally healing. 811 00:41:46,671 --> 00:41:48,841 Elizabeth: I feel like I hit the... lottery. 812 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,970 Ayahuasca was the best thing that's ever happened to me. 813 00:41:52,969 --> 00:41:55,759 The best thing that has ever happened to me. 814 00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:57,683 I have forgiven myself. 815 00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:00,692 I don't need to sit in the guilt or shame anymore. 816 00:42:00,685 --> 00:42:03,555 So now, it's like I'm free. 817 00:42:03,563 --> 00:42:07,073 The chains are broken, my pieces have been restored. 818 00:42:07,066 --> 00:42:08,776 I found the... key. 819 00:42:08,776 --> 00:42:12,566 I let myself out of jail. 820 00:42:12,572 --> 00:42:15,872 Steve: I cannot put into words how blessed I am, 821 00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,497 and how fulfilled I am to be able to fulfill 822 00:42:19,495 --> 00:42:22,415 this very honorable role of a shaman. 823 00:42:22,415 --> 00:42:26,335 I have seen everybody who has touched ayahuasca 824 00:42:26,335 --> 00:42:29,625 be touched back by Mother Aya. 825 00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:33,180 She told me she would have my back no matter what, 826 00:42:33,176 --> 00:42:37,636 and that she would protect me and mine through thick and thin. 827 00:42:37,638 --> 00:42:39,598 And I'm gonna tell you what. 828 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:43,389 In 18 years, she has never let me down one... time. 829 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:47,074 She has whipped my ass, she's brought me to my knees, 830 00:42:47,065 --> 00:42:49,435 and she has lifted me to my feet ‐‐ 831 00:42:49,442 --> 00:42:53,652 but not once has she abandoned me. 832 00:42:53,654 --> 00:42:55,034 I love her. 833 00:42:55,031 --> 00:43:02,411 ♪♪ 834 00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:10,053 ♪♪ 835 00:43:10,046 --> 00:43:12,466 Donavan: Now I don't have a drinking problem. 836 00:43:12,465 --> 00:43:14,625 I just don't drink. But on top of that, 837 00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:16,474 everything else is more positive. 838 00:43:16,469 --> 00:43:18,099 I've been living a more positive life. 839 00:43:18,096 --> 00:43:19,846 Just ‐‐ I just feel happier. 840 00:43:19,847 --> 00:43:32,357 ♪♪ 841 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:44,910 ♪♪ 842 00:43:44,914 --> 00:43:48,964 ♪♪ 843 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,880 It's really amazing, the change that I have seen in myself 844 00:43:53,881 --> 00:43:56,051 and that others have also seen in me. 845 00:43:56,050 --> 00:44:01,760 I am so grateful, uh, even through pain and strife, 846 00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,144 to still be able to come out on top. 63129

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