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Developing news now,
former rap mogul Suge Knight
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is headed to prison for
voluntary manslaughter.
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He ran down a man in the parking
lot of a Compton burger stand
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about three years ago.
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And today, he found out what
his punishment will be.
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For the crimes which the defendant
has been convicted in count one,
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the defendant's levied a term
in state prison of 22 years.
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The prior conviction
the defendant has admitted,
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he's levied an additional
five years in state prison
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for a total unstayed term
of 28 years.
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Quite a fall for Knight since the
height of his career in the '90s.
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He's best known as the co-founder
of Death Row Records and worked
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with Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg,
and Tupac Shakur.
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And back here live, Sharon,
he did look briefly at...
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Suge Knight's sentencing
for 28 years signalled the end
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of his power, the end of his empire.
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People now no longer as intimidated
since Suge's incarceration
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started talking more freely
about Suge being the shadow
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behind Biggie Smalls and
Tupac Shakur's murders.
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Tell Frankie to call me.
LAUGHTER
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Frankie, you call me when she
tells you to call me, Frankie.
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Why, what's...?
Frankie Goes to Hollywood!
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Ay, yo, Frankie.
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Frankie! Yo, Frankie!
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CHEERING
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It caused me to review an
earlier film I'd made
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about Biggie and Tupac.
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People were now opening up to things
I couldn't get answered before.
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Biggie and Tupac started off
as the best of friends.
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Tupac was the one who discovered
Biggie and brought him out on stage.
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And if you look very closely,
you'll see the rarest of footage
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of Biggie and Tupac hugging
on the edge of stage.
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But, partly because
of Suge's influence,
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they ended up as deadly enemies,
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the victims of a gang war
that Suge had initiated.
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It was LAPD Detective
Russell Poole...
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Hey. Hello, hello!
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..who originally alleged the
connection between Suge Knight and
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the murders of Biggie and Tupac.
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Well, like I say, based on the
witnesses that I've interviewed
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and the evidence,
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I believe that, you know,
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Suge Knight ultimately
called for the hit.
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And you said Police Chief
Bernard Parks stopped you
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from investigating further,
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because LAPD police officers were
involved with Suge Knight?
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Oh, that's correct.
Yes, he was...
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You know, it's several factors...
on why he didn't want this pursued
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to the fullest extent.
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And one being the fact that
his own officers were involved.
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At the time, Police Chief Bernard
Parks dismissed these allegations.
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He is totally wrong.
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He only worked the task force
for about four months.
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Russell Poole resigned, asserting
massive corruption in the LAPD.
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Tonight, shocking allegations
against the city's top cop.
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Former detective Russell Poole has
filed suit against the department.
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Poole says he uncovered dirty cops
while investigating the murders
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of rappers and Biggie Smalls
and Tupac Shakur.
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I provided the chief with enough...
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Russell died tragically
a few years later,
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his career in tatters,
the murders still unsolved.
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His work is asserting dirty cops
and corruption in the LAPD is
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as relevant today as it was then.
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I am telling you right now!
Book him up.
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Book him up, you're under arrest.
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You're under arrest for interfering.
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BICYCLE BELL RINGS
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INDISTINCT SHOUTING
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GUNSHOTS
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Back in the 1990s, Death Row was
the most successful rap label ever,
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worth hundreds of
millions of dollars.
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Yet by 2002, with allegations
of racketeering,
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it is closed down by a SWAT team
and goes into bankruptcy.
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Death Row Records was in a
very elegant part of Westwood,
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in Los Angeles.
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It was a really big office,
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and it was located across the hall
from Interscope Records.
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When you first walked into
Death Row Records,
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..you got a vibe that it was a
family kind of thing going on.
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That everybody cared
about everybody.
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So, you kind of got food
right off the bat.
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Now, what I did notice
the very first time was that
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there was always a lot of guys -
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when I say "a lot of guys",
I mean, they would be lined up
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sitting in the hallway, chillin'.
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You didn't know why they were there.
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I don't even think they knew
why they were there, you know?
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But Suge did give a lot
of jobs to the guys and his
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gang member affiliation people.
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It was funny,
they always had on red.
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Everybody that was everybody
had on red.
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And Snoop and them
always wore their blue.
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They never got off their Crip.
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Used to come to the office, right?
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And there'd be a gang of dudes
up there, Bloods -
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I can always tell they Bloods,
right?
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Smoking...Newports.
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Where they'd pop the thing off.
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Or the Camels, right?
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They popped the head off
the Newport, right?
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And you could tell that they'd
just been in the penitentiary for
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a long time, cos they was just so
used to sitting down, smoking weed
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or cigarettes, right, talking shit.
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And then, it'd be like
new crews of cats you could tell
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fresh out the pen,
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come up there to get a job.
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First, they're going to ask you,
"Where you from"?
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And you did not say you were
from an enemy gang territory.
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Or they're going to say...
you'll have to run it.
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You see what I'm saying?
You know what I mean "run it"?
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They'll want to fight.
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RADIO CHATTER
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They come from a good, tight-knit
family. Really, really close.
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Everyone loves each other,
everyone thinks with one brain.
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Parents were still together,
and just, you know,
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just like a regular family.
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Uncle Suge was the baby, so he
got he got away with everything.
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So, he's spoiled, he's the baby.
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He...
SHE LAUGHS
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He would call my mum and ask
for certain, you know,
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his potato salad a certain way.
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He wants chicken his certain way.
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It was, you know...
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And if anybody touches his chicken,
his potato salad, he's angry.
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You know, he wants his food
a certain way, he wants it...
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I mean, he's the baby.
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So...and everybody loves him and
they spoil him, especially my mum.
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So, whatever he says, it's,
"OK, Suge. OK, Li'l Suge. OK."
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So, he's, you know...
he's the baby,
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so he gets whatever he wants.
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The happy Mother's Day from OFTB,
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and all the other mothers out there.
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Stay strong.
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Stay up.
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There is also another side to Suge.
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He initially gave hope to
the Compton community,
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which had the highest
unemployment in LA.
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He also gave back to the community.
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HE VOCALISES
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CHEERING
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Suge gave encouragement to
artists like Danny Boy,
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whom he adopted as legal guardian,
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aged 15, and acted as a father.
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Yes, he was, for sure.
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For sure. Definitely like a father,
like a big brother.
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A lot of things that people
seen in Suge, or a lot of things
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that people said about Suge,
you know, some of those things, I...
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You know, I didn't see him as that,
you know what I mean?
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Because, you know, I had a
real relationship with him where
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I was able - I felt like I was able
to talk to him and say things
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that I would say to a father.
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Yeah, so...
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Suge lived in Compton, near
Pam Brooks, an old friend of mine,
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and who am I asked to
work on the film.
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Hi there!
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Pam knows everyone.
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Hi. Tell me what you know
about Suge Knight.
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All right.
What else you need to know?
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Suge Knight was on that side.
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This is the Crip neighbourhood.
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Suge Knight is over here...
all the way down.
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Do you know some of his homies?
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Yeah, I'm going to get you and
let you talk to 'em.
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Yeah. I mean - and if they don't
want to talk or be on camera,
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can they just...I need to -
they don't have to be on camera
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if they don't want to be on camera.
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Just, I need it - would they mind
if they record their voice?
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Just...
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All right. Call me and let me...
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Just call me and let me know,
and then, erm...let me know.
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And I don't know,
these are England -
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they white people,
they white, but they Black.
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But, I mean, they from England.
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I mean... All right.
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No...you know, we straight up.
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They're from England.
Remember, they're crazy.
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This is the first time
Lipp Dogg speaks about
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working for Suge Knight.
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And so, before you worked
at Death Row, you were...?
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I was in prison.
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For attempted murder.
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And so, Suge offered you a job.
Right.
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INAUDIBLE
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How did that happen?
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Well, when I came home,
one of my associates took me
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to where Suge was at,
Suge was about to go out of town.
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And before he boarded a plane,
me and him, you know, hooked up.
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Cos I know Suge prior from then.
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I know Suge ever since
the early '70s, cos we grew up
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five houses from each other.
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So, you know, he knew me.
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Suge couldn't even play with us.
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His mother wouldn't let him
play with us.
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Cos we were...
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..the thugs in the neighbourhood.
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And she had a goal for Suge.
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And that was for him to play sports.
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WHISTLE BLOWS
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# I'm Marion Knight
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# With the wavy hair
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# I'm quick and fast,
and always there
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# I'll take on any O-lineman
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# Without no scares
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ALL: # That's why they call him
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# The Sugar Bear!
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Marion Knight, number 54...
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Suge went to college, and,
you know, he had good parents.
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He had both his mother and father
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that kept him away from
the whole gang violence shit
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that we was doing.
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Sometimes they'd think,
and he'd think that that's hard.
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"You took away from me" -
no, she gave you a better life.
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Being in office was just like...
conducting business on the street.
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Motherfucker got in the way,
motherfucker got dealt with.
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If you thought you was going
to create a problem,
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you had a problem.
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You'd find yourself
tossed upside down.
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One thing people knew about Death
Row is they weren't bullshitting,
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and they would whoop your ass.
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With no questions asked.
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If you stepped on the red rug,
if you answered the phone,
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if you parked in somebody's spot,
you gon' get your ass whooped.
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Some people died.
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Some people just got
beat up, you know?
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A few people got rat-packed.
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You know, like I say, people
got disciplined, you know,
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if they got in the way, or...
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Cos Death Row was on a mission.
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You couldn't stand on the logo.
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The Death Row logo.
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Stood on that logo, and you
probably gon' get knocked down.
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Ain't no telling
who would knock you out,
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but you probably got knocked out.
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You had a dog, Damu,
Suge's German Shepherd.
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His name was Damu.
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It meant "blood". Yeah.
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The dog would attack you.
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Yeah, he was trained.
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Cos he'd think...
the dog's thinking you trying
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to get next to him, next to Suge.
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And if you're trying
to get next to Shug,
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that dog was going to attack you.
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Yeah.
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And is it true he had,
like, piranha fish?
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Yeah. Yeah, he had...
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He had a black tank built into
the wall in his office,
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and it was dark.
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It was black piranhas.
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We used to feed 'em blood worms,
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used to buy a big pack
of blood worms,
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and put them in there...
and they'd just go crazy.
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Yeah.
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You know, and he...
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He'd look at...tank,
and look at you...
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Then, you know, people was calm.
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They were gang-bangers.
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They were gang-bangers,
and they worked for Suge Knight,
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So, they was like Suge Knight's boy.
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So, I believe -
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my belief of it is they did
what Suge told them to do,
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because they was broke, and...
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They couldn't get a job because they
was already marked as gang-bangers,
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so they took that ride
with Suge Knight.
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And they accepted that thousand -
for a person who never had...
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For a person they don't have
nothing, $1,000 is good, a day.
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$1,000 a day? To do some dirty
shit to the next motherfucker?
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"Go over here and drop this car off,
or go here and drop this bag off"?
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And you don't know
what's in the bag?
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But nine out of ten,
you know what's in the bag,
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because you're not going
to fuck with nobody.
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You know, you're not going to
put yourself in a situation where
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you don't know if it's a dead body
in a trunk or not.
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Some people do.
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Some motherfuckers don't give
a fuck, you know what I'm saying?
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Cos they'd be so desperate
for this money.
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Inflicting pain on people was
like my medicine.
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It was...I felt good.
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I truly feel good about it.
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I took pleasure...into it.
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OK, I mean, just seeing the blood,
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how it came out your nose,
how it came out your ears.
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You...you don't want to die.
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You don't want to die.
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These cats don't give
a fuck if they do die.
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And I mean that like that.
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I'm not putting them on nothing,
but these cats don't care,
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you know what I'm saying?
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We lose homies in prison,
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we lose homies on the street
on the daily.
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We done seen death.
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We done seen it - I held it,
you know what I'm saying?
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I watched my homeboy, Kenny,
take his last breath.
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Like, wow.
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Mob James recruited gang
members for Suge,
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including Bountry,
his younger brother.
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Tupac would rap about Bountry,
who would later be murdered.
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Suge utilised each and every guy
that I brung to him.
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Instead of him being the
businessman he should've been,
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he turned into one of the homies.
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Shit. Suge put on red suit,
the big rings, the cigars,
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and he just changed.
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He went from Miriam...
to this gangster.
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And I say...
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..some men can't take power
like that, and just know that
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they have all that power,
and be good.
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Suge took that power.
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He felt the energy.
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He felt like...
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Let's say you're goin' to a concert,
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and you got 20 Bloods behind you.
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I'm the smallest one.
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Everybody else is...
I'm talking about, like, big.
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And everybody's mentality is,
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"If anybody say something to Suge,
knock their fucking head off".
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And all of these famous
people was looking and
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seeing Suge's entourage,
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and it was like he was Jesus.
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Everybody just start partying away.
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And we would walk through
that crowd. And Suge...
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HE CHUCKLES
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He felt it,.
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But it was just too much for him.
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At the end of the day,
it was too much.
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Put your hands together and say,
"Oh, yeah!"
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CROWD: Oh, yeah!
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Let me see somebody get Dre, Suge,
the D.O.C. A round of applause.
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Death Row Records is going to be the
record company of the 2000s.
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Death Row had the money to throw
the most lavish celebrity parties
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in Beverly Hills.
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The Label started with Dr Dre
was going to do his own thing,
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and with a lot of help from
Suge Knight...
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David Kenner - seen here - and
Suge Knight ran Death Row.
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According to employees,
they did whatever they wanted.
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Beverley Brolis, front centre.
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CHEERING
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He had huge houses, he had lots of
cars, he could come to work every
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day in a different car for a month
and never drive the same car.
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Really.
339
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To be honest, Suge was just
two-faced, he was two-faced
340
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and he really wasn't a man
of his word.
341
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And I'm telling you, that day that
he set me up to be beat up,
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I never thought... I had no inkling
that that was going
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to happen that day.
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He had planned that whole
thing all weekend.
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He was ready.
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He had one of his girlfriends bring
the girl up to the office,
347
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they snuck her through the back
door. The girl that jumped on me,
348
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she was dropped off by a girl
that was one of his girlfriends.
349
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This girl came out of nowhere
and she sucker punched me,
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stomping me in my face, and Suge had
me by my feet.
351
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And David Kenner just stood
and watched.
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And what did Suge say?
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He was holding my feet.
354
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So then when I kicked him
in his nuts, that's when I got
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familiar with the back door.
356
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So when I ran out the back door
and I ran over to Interscope,
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they must've knew something
was happening because they locked
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the door so you couldn't go in.
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You know, they treated women...
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I mean, they would have fights
in there, girl fights
361
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in the offices where they would put
the assistants against other women
362
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and, like, literal girl
fights where they went...
363
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Like, in the middle
of the floor where they...
364
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Like, it was like...boxing matches
where women would fight.
365
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And I just... I never saw the
fights.
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They would just tell me
about them, Dre told me about them.
367
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And I was like, "Who does
that in the offices of the whatever.
368
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And so that's how little
they thought of women.
369
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And so I... I never... I just never
understood it.
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I just... They just thought women
were second class citizens.
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They were just literally
there for their amusement,
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entertainment and enjoyment,
nothing else.
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And if you...
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..dated one of them, you understood
that was your place.
375
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What about DJ Quik?
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No.
377
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It was an insult to me. Hm?.
378
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No. So they're stealing a life.
379
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This car Jacuzzi that he got
going on.
380
00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:41,820
Pam showed me some useful tips I
hadn't learned at film school.
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Pam is friends with
Joe Cool, Snoop's cousin,
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who had been hard to get.
383
00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:49,460
Oh, yeah. I got a good plot going on
in my head.
384
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A good plan? Plot. You gotta plot.
385
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You gotta plot with motherfuckers
like this.
386
00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:58,140
You want to play hardball, let's
play.
387
00:21:58,140 --> 00:22:00,380
So what's your plot for tomorrow?
388
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Well, I'll go get... Get rid of her.
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Go get... Go get my friend.
390
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And then go out there,
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get some weed and smoke it, go out
there and, you know,
392
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rub my tittles against him because
he likes me.
393
00:22:14,020 --> 00:22:15,260
I just got to play the game.
394
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Pam and Joe Cool go way back.
395
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He's a Crip and worked with Snoop,
his cousin.
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At Death Row there's an uneasy
alliance between Blood and Crip
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gang members.
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Suge is a Blood, Snoop and Joe
Cool are Crips.
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These dudes that Suge had were known
Crip killers,
400
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real rough
motherfuckers, ex-smokers,
401
00:22:37,780 --> 00:22:39,900
you know what I'm saying?
402
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Ex-cons, fresh out the
penitentiary motherfuckers.
403
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They did not play.
They overdid they job.
404
00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:50,620
And they robbed and they stole,
they pillaged and they plundered.
405
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And I've seen them do it.
406
00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:53,660
One of they favourite things was
this,
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00:22:53,660 --> 00:22:56,500
as far as them being security,
for Suge, they favourite thing
408
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:57,820
would be to do this .
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00:22:57,820 --> 00:22:59,420
Suge's boys, they were thieves,
410
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robbers, murderers, rapists.
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Let me tell you, it was
Compton's worst.
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And so what he would do
is...
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What they would do is, "He got a
gun!"
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Might be a guy with a big chain,
right, big old chain
415
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or gang jewellery on, and they'll
point him out like,
416
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"Oh, he got a gun!"
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Next thing I know, everybody jumps
on this dude.
418
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When the dude come up,
419
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he ain't got no jewellery, no
wallet,
420
00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:29,620
might not...might be missing a few
teeth,
421
00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:31,620
you know what I'm saying?
Disorientated.
422
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And just left there in a bloody
mess, and they would do
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that all the time.
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It was drugs up there.
425
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It was, you know, drug dealing.
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It was, like, multiple suitcases
with powdered cocaine
427
00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:59,060
or re-rocked cocaine up in there,
there's a lot I've seen.
428
00:23:59,060 --> 00:24:01,420
I've seen things
and I've been handed things,
429
00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:02,740
you know?
430
00:24:05,580 --> 00:24:08,180
Russell Poole had said this years
before.
431
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He alleged that dirty cops
were an essential part of Death Row.
432
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:16,980
It was no secret that
Death Row Records was involved
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in drug trafficking.
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The big piece of this is the fact
that we had police officers working
435
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in the organisation and police
officers
436
00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:27,940
on different levels, you know?
437
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there was actual security
guards that were actually doing
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security for various artists.
439
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And then you had, like, these
confidants, which I believe Gaines
440
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and Mack and Perez were part
of that crew.
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They were willing to do anything
for Suge Knight.
442
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COMMENTATOR: 102 is Dave Mack of
America.
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David Mack, in blue, before he
became a police officer,
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was a world-class
athlete.
445
00:24:58,380 --> 00:25:00,620
By complete
chance Tupac's manager
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00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:02,100
helped train him.
447
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,420
Leila has avoided talking
about David Mack
448
00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:06,580
for the past 24 years.
449
00:25:06,580 --> 00:25:10,980
I was working with Olympic track and
field athletes in the early '80s.
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So David Mack, who ended
up being the cop that was entangled
451
00:25:16,460 --> 00:25:19,540
with Suge and everything,
he was one of the athletes
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on the team. I worked on David Mack
in 82, 83, 84,
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00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:27,060
the Olympics were in 1984.
454
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But I knew David very well
because we worked together for years
455
00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:33,340
before he was an officer, so...
456
00:25:33,340 --> 00:25:38,420
..I can't speak to all the things
that went on and what they did,
457
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all I can tell you is you cannot run
a criminal enterprise
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00:25:42,180 --> 00:25:45,500
at that magnitude without...
459
00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:52,180
..a certain level of compliance
with the police department.
460
00:25:56,060 --> 00:25:59,300
It was David Mack who introduced
fellow LAPD officer
461
00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:01,180
Rafael Perez to Suge Knight.
462
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:04,980
Perez actively dealt in narcotics.
463
00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,460
The police did this by controlling
the street gangs.
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And he ran from us and discarded the
narcotics in the gutter.
465
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It was no big deal to us.
466
00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:17,140
We'll just put the dope on you, we
know you had it.
467
00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:21,500
Here, Perez confesses to stealing
over $1 million of cocaine
468
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:22,940
from the LAPD evidence locker.
469
00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:24,900
Having violated several vows and
oaths...
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He implicates a further 70 other
police officers in crimes ranging
471
00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:33,180
from murder, beatings, trafficking,
narcotics,
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filing false police reports and
lying on the witness stand.
473
00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:42,380
This is Police Chief Bernard Parks.
474
00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:44,540
the city of LA ended up paying
475
00:26:44,540 --> 00:26:47,860
an estimated 125 million
in settlement claims.
476
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:53,540
Do you think Chief Parks tried
to influence the investigation
477
00:26:53,540 --> 00:26:55,460
into David Mack and Perez?
478
00:26:56,820 --> 00:26:59,860
Well, the evidence
that was presented to us...
479
00:27:01,580 --> 00:27:05,980
..clearly showed that there
were attempts at the highest levels
480
00:27:05,980 --> 00:27:09,420
of the department to make
things disappear.
481
00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:12,460
I will say that he did way
beyond what anybody
482
00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:14,740
would have expected of a chief
of police,
483
00:27:14,740 --> 00:27:16,940
way beyond.
484
00:27:16,940 --> 00:27:20,300
There's strong evidence that Rafael
Perez, Nino Durden
485
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:22,820
and David Mack, seen here in Blood
colours,
486
00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:24,860
as well as being police
officers,
487
00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:28,380
were members of the Mob Piru
Blood gang, as was Suge Knight.
488
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:31,540
They and other members of the police
department controlled
489
00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:34,100
the streets with a reign of terror.
490
00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:58,180
Behind your back!
491
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:00,780
Lie down!
492
00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,820
The streets are controlled by the
biggest gang
493
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:05,060
that we have, and that's the police.
494
00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:07,660
And those gang members, many of whom
495
00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:11,780
didn't end up serving on the
streets, they became officers.
496
00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:15,220
What are the requirements
to become a police officer?
497
00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:20,700
Not a whole lot. The corrupt
police are facilitating
498
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:22,740
the distribution of drugs.
499
00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:29,420
There's no way in the world you can
have the mass amount of drugs
500
00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:33,940
if not for police allowing
stuff to come in.
501
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:39,820
And into this messy and volatile
situation of gangs, violence
502
00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:43,780
and corrupt police came Tupac
Shakur, who had himself just come
503
00:28:43,780 --> 00:28:46,700
out of prison on assault charges
and would fuel the fire
504
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,340
of Death Row even more.
505
00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:51,780
Tupac would be dead within 11
months.
506
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:04,180
This is Tupac with his producer,
Tracy Robinson, who says that none
507
00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:05,820
of it needed to go the way
it did.
508
00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:08,340
When I went to visit him in
Dannemora,
509
00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:12,780
I think he would not have gone
to Death Row if Interscope
510
00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:14,300
had just stepped up.
511
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:16,580
Anyone from...
512
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,740
..probably, Interscope could
have got him out of jail.
513
00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:23,500
You know? Tom Whalley could
have got him out of jail
514
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,500
Jimmy Iovine could have got him out
of jail.
515
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:27,940
He was on their label, Interscope.
516
00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:31,380
So Death Row's a subsidiary....
517
00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:35,300
..as you know, of Interscope,
518
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:39,260
and if Interscope people had got him
out of jail,
519
00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:43,500
it would be a whole
different scenario, but instead
520
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:47,660
he's stuck in a situation with some
people who are gang people.
521
00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:49,500
What did you think of Suge?
522
00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:53,300
I don't Suge, so I can't speak
on his behalf at all.
523
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,780
You know, I don't know him.
524
00:29:56,820 --> 00:30:03,300
And I just know the energy
that I've got from him from the time
525
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:07,460
that I had to deal with him.
It's not pleasant. It's just not.
526
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:11,820
And, you know, it's not pleasant
for me to have to even talk about,
527
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:15,020
because he's alive.
His downline is alive.
528
00:30:15,020 --> 00:30:16,460
You know, his people are alive.
529
00:30:16,460 --> 00:30:18,540
You know, these people
are revengeful.
530
00:30:18,540 --> 00:30:21,500
This is kind of stuff I'm just
saying to you right now, like,
531
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,860
I wouldn't even want this on tape
because,
532
00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:27,060
like, I live here, I'm alive.
Like I said, I'm alive, I'm walking.
533
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:30,580
People still get shot for no fucking
reason, you know what I mean?
534
00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:32,180
Like, it's...
535
00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:35,300
The gang shit, it's ridiculous.
536
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,380
It's ridiculous.
537
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,300
What's up, Hammer?
538
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,020
He took it very hard.
539
00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:47,140
He felt more of an impending doom,
540
00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:49,980
having signed with Death Row,
541
00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:51,900
because even while he was in jail,
542
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:53,340
people were telling him
543
00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:55,100
not to sign with Death Row.
544
00:30:58,340 --> 00:31:02,380
Yaasmyn Fula raised Tupac,
but rarely speaks.
545
00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:05,620
She knew Tupac better than anyone.
546
00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:07,780
Here she is,
visiting Tupac in prison.
547
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,860
Having just been released
from prison,
548
00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:15,980
and now he's signed with
Death Row records,
549
00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:20,300
he had to continue to bask
in this being part
550
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:23,900
of that gangster element,
when he really wasn't.
551
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,100
Tupac was not a gangster.
552
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:30,420
That had a very negative
effect on the positive things
553
00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:32,460
he was trying to accomplish.
You know, here you are,
554
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:36,060
you're a gangster or you're
relishing in this persona
555
00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:37,500
of being a gangster.
556
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:42,220
You're associating with people
throwing up gang signs, making music
557
00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:45,380
that glorifies the gangster ethic,
558
00:31:45,380 --> 00:31:48,660
you know, and debases women,
you know.
559
00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:51,420
So, there were so many
contradictions that
560
00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:54,260
he had to overcome
before he could even achieve
561
00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:57,620
the things that he really
wanted to achieve.
562
00:31:57,620 --> 00:32:01,900
He wanted to address the issues
563
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:06,380
of poverty, despair, drug addiction.
564
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:11,900
It's hard to equate the image
that Tupac presented at Death Row
565
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,500
with the young, idealistic,
politically motivated Tupac,
566
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,820
the son of a Black Panther.
567
00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:21,300
We're not being taught to deal
with the world as it is.
568
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,420
We're being taught to deal
with this fairy land,
569
00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:26,260
which we're not even living
in any more.
570
00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:28,460
It's sad.
571
00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:31,340
Because I'm telling you,
and it should not be me telling you,
572
00:32:31,340 --> 00:32:32,980
it should be common knowledge.
573
00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:36,860
Aren't they wondering why death
rates are going up and suicide
574
00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:38,660
is going up and drug abuse?
575
00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:41,540
Aren't they wondering? Don't
they understand that more people,
576
00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:44,140
I mean, more kids are
being handed crack
577
00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:45,740
than they're being handed diplomas.
578
00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:48,020
I mean, shouldn't...?
579
00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:50,660
I mean like, OK, in school
we're learning to analyse
580
00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:54,140
and then... Well, I learned it
now they should relearn it.
581
00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:56,540
I think adults should
go through school again.
582
00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:58,620
You know, I think that...
583
00:32:58,620 --> 00:33:01,820
I think that rich people should live
like poor people and poor people
584
00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:04,860
should live like rich people
and they should change every week.
585
00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:06,900
It's prison that changed Tupac.
586
00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:15,220
Going to jail over all that stuff
made him bitter
587
00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:16,860
and they changed him.
588
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:18,580
Even hateful.
589
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:21,140
He wasn't hateful before,
but that made him
590
00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:24,380
very hateful and paranoid.
591
00:33:24,380 --> 00:33:26,620
Tupac blamed Biggie for
not coming forward
592
00:33:26,620 --> 00:33:28,660
to help him at this time.
593
00:33:28,660 --> 00:33:30,900
Biggie knew the gangsters
that had shot him
594
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:34,140
at the Quad Studios and were
behind the sexual abuse charges
595
00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:37,260
that landed Tupac in prison.
596
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:41,860
I would say Big had love for Pac.
597
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:43,860
And it's not that he wanted to
598
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:47,540
snake him, but self-preservation.
599
00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:51,580
You know, you don't want to get
entangled with people who can hurt
600
00:33:51,580 --> 00:33:55,260
you, you know, but at the same
time, you know, something's
601
00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:56,900
going to happen to your friend.
602
00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:00,740
You tried to warn him in in a way
that was covert,
603
00:34:00,740 --> 00:34:04,180
but you didn't want to just
blatantly say, you know,
604
00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:07,740
these guys, they're stick-up kids,
they're extortionists.
605
00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:09,700
You know, they're going
to come for you.
606
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:16,580
The whole time he was in jail,
he was trying to figure out
607
00:34:16,580 --> 00:34:18,900
how he was going to get revenge.
608
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:20,820
He started to plot on how he was
609
00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:23,540
going to get back at everybody
who wronged him.
610
00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:53,540
I bet you that music
hurt him a little bit inside.
611
00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:58,700
I don't have a fact, I don't
have anything to back that up,
612
00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:02,860
but that ain't who he was.
613
00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:08,260
All Eyez On Me
and The Killuminati Theory,
614
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:10,740
or whatever it was called - I forgot
the name of the last album.
615
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:13,060
I loved it, but...
616
00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:15,020
Those albums weren't him.
617
00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:20,140
That 17-year-old would have never
said any of that stuff, you know?
618
00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:24,420
I mean, back when he started,
I mean, he would never be like that.
619
00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:27,860
But we all change. He got his edge,
he knew what he had to sell records.
620
00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:30,740
He was like,
this is what I got to do.
621
00:35:30,740 --> 00:35:34,380
I'll shoot three albums or four
albums or whatever many albums
622
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:36,620
I got to do this,
and these albums got to sell.
623
00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:40,460
When he first started, he was
624
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:43,900
talking about Panther power,
black issues, black rights.
625
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,740
When Tupac was around us,
he was really nice.
626
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,900
He was he was another one
that was a genius.
627
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:21,300
Tupac was a reader,
but when he got around Suge,
628
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:23,700
it was a whole different person.
629
00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:28,300
He kind of got gangsta, you know?
630
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,340
Like, his personality changed,
631
00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:35,860
I guess, just saw Suge, you know,
"I'm all that," you know.
632
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:03,420
I remember he came up with the plot
that he was going to sleep
633
00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:05,580
with Faith Evans in jail.
634
00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:09,620
You know, at first when you told me
it, I'm like...
635
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:15,100
Then I was just like, you can't tell
Pac nothing.
636
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,740
Whatever he said he's going to do,
he's going to do it.
637
00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:22,300
So, it's like, get on board with
it or get out the way.
638
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,700
Yeah, he called me up and he's like,
guess what, he was like,
639
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,860
"I did it," and I'm like,
"What? What did you do?"
640
00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:31,220
And he was like,
"Oh, I fucked Faith."
641
00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:33,180
He was like,
"Not only did I fuck her,
642
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:36,060
"but I got her to come in the studio
and do a song with me."
643
00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:37,660
And I was like, "Really?"
644
00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:41,540
Today, however, through the lyrics
of rappers
645
00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:43,540
who display no respect for women...
646
00:37:52,340 --> 00:37:55,340
It is obscene. It is obscene.
647
00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:56,540
It is obscene.
648
00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:08,180
So, now we've got the East Coast,
West Coast shit,
649
00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:10,980
we got a bad motherfucker
on the East Coast,
650
00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:13,020
Puffy, bad boy.
651
00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:14,420
We got Suge.
652
00:38:14,420 --> 00:38:18,740
And here we about to come into this
East Coast/West Coast nonsense
653
00:38:18,740 --> 00:38:22,580
with two motherfucking cast of
characters that the press loves.
654
00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:24,260
You remember that shit.
655
00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:29,460
It just took a life all of its own.
656
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,220
Any artists out there want to
be an artist,
657
00:38:40,220 --> 00:38:41,900
they want to stay a star,
658
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:44,300
they don't want to have to worry
about the producers trying
659
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:46,940
to be all in the videos
660
00:38:46,940 --> 00:38:49,580
all on the records, dancing,
661
00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:51,220
come to Death Row.
662
00:38:51,220 --> 00:38:54,300
CHEERING AND BOOING
663
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,500
If he'd have stood the course on
saying, you know,
664
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,340
you don't want the person being all
in your videos
665
00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:02,260
and if he'd have stood on that and
not tried to get in videos
666
00:39:02,260 --> 00:39:05,340
and put his ass on magazines?
667
00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:07,780
He tried to become the star.
668
00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:10,100
Going towards the end, he was in all
the magazines
669
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:11,300
with cigars in his mouth.
670
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,020
He forgot what he said.
671
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:16,780
And that's what brought him down.
672
00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:18,420
You got to take care of the artist.
673
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,140
Biggie Smalls took Puffy's side
on the East Coast.
674
00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:27,780
So, we got Brooklyn in the house
representing!
675
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:31,940
Snoop, Tupac and Dr Dre supported
Suge Knight on the West Coast
676
00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:33,260
at Death Row Records.
677
00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:34,460
BOOING
678
00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:37,820
The East Coast ain't got no love for
Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg and Death Row?
679
00:39:37,820 --> 00:39:39,140
Y'all don't love us?
680
00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:41,580
Y'all don't love us?
681
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:46,540
Suge definitely couldn't back down,
Suge had more to lose
682
00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:51,220
if he showed a sign of weakness
because of these guys he had.
683
00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:57,820
If you a gorilla and you turn
into a monkey, you've got a problem,
684
00:39:57,820 --> 00:40:00,540
you don't belong in this crowd.
685
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:04,060
If you a motherfucking pit bull
and turn into a poodle,
686
00:40:04,060 --> 00:40:05,700
you don't belong to this crowd.
687
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:07,140
They gon' eat your ass up.
688
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:09,220
So he had to keep it up there,
689
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:10,740
he had to keep his chest up.
690
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:13,780
He had to be Suge Knight.
691
00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:16,100
And he did that well.
692
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:20,780
Tupac and Biggie's shit just
threw a motherfucking atomic bomb
693
00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:25,060
on the gasoline and it
just exploded.
694
00:40:25,060 --> 00:40:27,260
Boom. And people was taking sides.
695
00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:31,940
And you have now magazines like ol'
messy-ass Vibe
696
00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:34,420
and a lot of them magazines,
you know,
697
00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:37,660
East Coast, West Coast,
this, that, whoo.
698
00:40:37,660 --> 00:40:40,500
East Coast, West Coast,
that, what, wow.
699
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,100
Wham, bam.
700
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,940
All that nonsense.
701
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:48,660
Tupac got swallowed up by Death Row.
702
00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:52,260
He got swallowed up
by his surroundings.
703
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:30,340
Tupac was already crazy.
704
00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:34,140
It just turned him up
another notch, you know,
705
00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:35,940
cos it was already going down.
706
00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:38,700
He came to a company where it
was already going down.
707
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,020
So, when he came over here,
he looked like,
708
00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:43,260
"Oh, yeah, I'm finna turn
the fuck up."
709
00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:45,020
He said, "I got these fools with me?
710
00:41:45,020 --> 00:41:47,140
"They feel right. Oh, yeah.
711
00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:50,380
"We gon'... Everything that get
in my way, I'ma knock it down.
712
00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:51,660
"I'm going crazy."
713
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:53,420
Cos he was already amped up.
714
00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:54,860
You know what I'm saying?
715
00:41:54,860 --> 00:41:57,220
So, he landed right
where he wanted to land.
716
00:41:57,220 --> 00:42:00,300
And he already had an attitude
because they didn't go get him,
717
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:02,140
the other people didn't go
get him out,
718
00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:03,980
you know, when he caught the case.
719
00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:05,620
Suge Knight went and got him out.
720
00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:09,460
So, when he came out, he
was going to be fully loyal.
721
00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:11,340
All right, still hanging out at the
afterparty,
722
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:14,700
and with me, from Death Row,
introduce yourself, my man?
723
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,180
Hey, yo, I'm Suge Knight.
724
00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:19,180
Tupac Shakur. All right.
725
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:20,700
Do you believe in God? Certainly.
726
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:22,500
Believe in Death Row East.
727
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:24,300
Believe in that, for real.
728
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:27,540
I'ma ride with you! If you believe
in God, believe in Death Row East.
729
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:31,580
I think Pac really appreciated
that Suge was looking out for him
730
00:42:31,580 --> 00:42:34,220
the way that he was,
cos nobody else did.
731
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:36,380
Eating, travelling, girls -
732
00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:39,460
whatever they did,
they did it together.
733
00:42:39,460 --> 00:42:40,860
To me, it was just
an incredible life.
734
00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:42,140
I mean, you know, It was Death Row.
735
00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:44,180
We were the Motown of the '90s.
736
00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:45,820
The Motown of the '90s,
737
00:42:45,820 --> 00:42:47,660
we had the hottest rappers.
738
00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:49,740
Suge was like the mayor of LA.
739
00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:52,740
I mean, you know, if he said it,
it went.
740
00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:55,580
I mean, we shopped in the malls,
three o'clock in the morning.
741
00:42:55,580 --> 00:42:57,820
3am in the morning,
four o'clock in the morning,
742
00:42:57,820 --> 00:43:00,580
you know, four or five stores
are staying open because Suge Knight
743
00:43:00,580 --> 00:43:03,060
called them early in the day
and made an appointment
744
00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:04,380
for them to be open at 3am.
745
00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:06,140
And we just go into this Foot Locker
746
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:08,820
and get as many shoes and clothes
that we want or, you know,
747
00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:12,340
going to some of the boutiques and
shop at three in the morning.
748
00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:14,860
Those fringe benefits
were incredible.
749
00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:17,620
To be 15 years old, coming
from where I come from and,
750
00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:21,780
you know, eating in the finest
places, always flying on airplanes
751
00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:24,220
and private jets and on his yachts
and things like that,
752
00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:25,340
that was incredible.
753
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:31,740
That's what Death Row was about.
754
00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:33,740
We caught things on records
that nobody else...
755
00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:36,620
You hear them footsteps on records
and those doors slamming,
756
00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:38,300
boom, welcome to Death Row.
757
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:39,620
That was organic.
758
00:44:03,460 --> 00:44:05,260
That's why he's the daddy of
rappers,
759
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:07,060
because those things
were organic.
760
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:23,260
He's living the life,
the money's there.
761
00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:26,140
They've got the girls around.
762
00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:28,300
They're living the video life.
763
00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:34,300
Whatever it is, it's some cool
location, they've got the cars,
764
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:37,380
they've got the big houses.
765
00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:39,580
Pam had introduced
me to some of the girls
766
00:44:39,580 --> 00:44:43,220
who dated Suge and Tupac,
and I wondered if she recognises
767
00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:44,860
any of them from these pictures.
768
00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:47,500
Let me see.
769
00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:54,380
I've seen her somewhere before.
770
00:44:54,380 --> 00:44:56,700
I don't know where I seen her at.
771
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,220
But she looks SO familiar.
772
00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:03,740
They look like they're very, erm...
773
00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:05,140
Looking for love.
774
00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:07,860
When you're looking for love and
looking for somebody
775
00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:09,900
to care about you,
this is what happens.
776
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,500
Looking for love? Looking for love.
777
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:14,500
Looking for love.
778
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:16,940
You only do demoralising shit...
779
00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:20,580
You only let a motherfucker
treat you like this
780
00:45:20,580 --> 00:45:23,220
if you don't have nothing,
you know what I'm saying?
781
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,700
And they bait you in.
782
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:28,540
And Tupac, he just was a follower.
783
00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:30,780
Suge Knight had his head blew up,
784
00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:33,380
had his head so blew up to where
he lost his life.
785
00:45:33,380 --> 00:45:35,860
He had the prime of his life.
786
00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:39,740
But he's being directed
by a fucking asshole and a deal,
787
00:45:39,740 --> 00:45:42,660
he don't even see it coming,
but he's so loyal.
788
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:45,140
And he's looking for love, too.
789
00:45:45,140 --> 00:45:47,020
This is the one I seen before.
790
00:45:47,020 --> 00:45:48,420
SMALL GIRL: Hi, Mom!
791
00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:50,060
Goddamn.
792
00:45:50,060 --> 00:45:51,260
Hey. Hey, Mom.
793
00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:55,340
Hi, Nick. Hi, Symphony.
794
00:45:56,740 --> 00:45:58,100
Hey!
795
00:45:58,100 --> 00:45:59,380
I got to go get the computer.
796
00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:01,020
Go say hi to my Auntie Anne.
797
00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:04,820
Say hi to Nick in there.
798
00:46:04,820 --> 00:46:07,100
Remember Nick and Barney? Hi.
799
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:08,420
My Auntie Anne.
800
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:19,100
Tupac was so influenced by Suge
that he joined the Mob Pirus,
801
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:22,620
Suge's Compton gang,
also known as the Bloods.
802
00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:27,260
that he would ultimately
lose his life to it.
803
00:46:27,260 --> 00:46:30,260
I remember the first night
when he turned MOB.
804
00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:32,900
We was on one side of the studio
805
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:35,580
and one of my little homeboys,
806
00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:38,100
rest in peace, he went around
there and looked in the studio
807
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:41,220
where Dre and Pac and all them was
at and he ran back around to us
808
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:44,500
and he say, "Cuz."
I say, "What's happening?"
809
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:48,420
He said,
"Man, Pac over there in all red."
810
00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:50,620
We went over there and looked.
811
00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:54,540
I said, "Well, they got him," and we
went back over there to our side.
812
00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:58,500
That night, we went over and went in
there and seen him in all that red.
813
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:00,340
That night, he turned MOB.
814
00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:05,900
Before that, he was hanging with us
all the time, on the Crips side.
815
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:10,740
He was a very kind-hearted person
816
00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:14,140
who got lost in the image
of being tough.
817
00:47:14,140 --> 00:47:15,820
He just wasn't a fighter.
818
00:47:15,820 --> 00:47:17,380
He was definitely a lover,
not a fighter,
819
00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:18,620
and we used to laugh about it.
820
00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:21,700
GUNSHOTS
821
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:25,020
He had suffered some brutal
beatdowns out here.
822
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:26,540
He wanted to be tougher.
823
00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:28,460
After he did Juice, he started
acting like
824
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:29,780
he was the character in Juice.
825
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:31,420
His persona changed.
826
00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:35,700
And he, you know, a lot of my
childhood friends from then,
827
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:38,500
cos I introduced him to most
of my friends and family,
828
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,300
they said he started acting
like he was Bishop.
829
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:43,380
I ain't got to do nothing.
830
00:47:43,380 --> 00:47:45,020
You the past, bro.
831
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:46,620
My time is now.
832
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:49,740
You ready to die, nigga?
833
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,980
When they expected him
to be this thug, this gangster,
834
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:56,980
which he wasn't, it got him killed.
835
00:47:56,980 --> 00:48:00,060
It's a hard thing to be
a gun-toting person
836
00:48:00,060 --> 00:48:02,500
with all that malice in your heart.
837
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:03,940
It's a burden.
838
00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:11,020
You know, when I first met Tupac -
Suge brought him to the hood
839
00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:14,860
when he came home -
Tupac was real cool.
840
00:48:14,860 --> 00:48:16,380
He was real cool.
841
00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:18,740
And the next time you see him...
842
00:48:20,780 --> 00:48:22,900
..he on the thug shit, like Suge.
He...
843
00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:26,980
He know he can't be touched
at this time.
844
00:48:26,980 --> 00:48:30,860
"I got ten, 11 motherfuckers
who gon' be around me all day,
845
00:48:30,860 --> 00:48:34,580
"every day, and they ready to kill
a motherfucker for me.
846
00:48:34,580 --> 00:48:37,940
"So, right here, telling me,
I can do what I want to do,
847
00:48:37,940 --> 00:48:40,820
"I can cuss out any motherfucker
I want to cuss out,
848
00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:43,140
"I can spit on whoever
I want to spit on.
849
00:48:43,140 --> 00:48:45,060
"And ain't nothing gon' happen.
850
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:48,220
"There's no such word of
repercussion here."
851
00:48:48,220 --> 00:48:52,060
You know, when he put the Mob on
him, I definitely didn't like that,
852
00:48:52,060 --> 00:48:55,100
because me and my brother used
853
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:58,020
to have the biggest
arguments in the world.
854
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:07,500
Bountry, Mob James' brother,
855
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:09,540
seen here in hat and red,
856
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:12,580
became Suge and Tupac's
number-one man, which caused
857
00:49:12,580 --> 00:49:14,260
problems between the brothers.
858
00:49:14,260 --> 00:49:15,780
My brother and them can say,
859
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:18,020
nigga, you could claim tomorrow
if you want to.
860
00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:19,260
Nah, you can't.
861
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:22,460
You ain't did no drive-by
shootings, you ain't did no...
862
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:24,580
You ain't beat no-motherfucking-body
up.
863
00:49:24,580 --> 00:49:26,660
You ain't did shit.
864
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:29,980
What it takes to be what we are.
865
00:49:29,980 --> 00:49:32,940
So, that's just like me, just, phew.
866
00:49:32,940 --> 00:49:35,220
Tupac the homie
because Tupac got money.
867
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:38,980
No, fuck that, this means
a lot more to me than Tupac.
868
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:43,660
You go on over there and be
a Death Row Mob,
869
00:49:43,660 --> 00:49:46,100
but not this, not from here.
870
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:47,900
You ain't from Compton.
871
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:49,740
Me and my sister used to
sing that song,
872
00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:51,980
but she couldn't sing that good,
so...
873
00:49:54,660 --> 00:49:58,860
Anyway, I want everybody to give
a big welcome for...
874
00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:00,180
..Tupac.
875
00:50:00,180 --> 00:50:01,740
CHEERING
876
00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:06,420
They were like brothers.
877
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:09,220
Tupac was like a little
brother to him.
878
00:50:09,220 --> 00:50:12,500
They had keys to each other's house,
they think with one brain.
879
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:14,420
Tupac never had a foundation.
880
00:50:15,980 --> 00:50:19,020
Never had a foundation, he never
had, like, that family...
881
00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:20,820
You know, that stability.
882
00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:22,460
Uncle Suge did.
883
00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:26,340
So, I think that's why they kind
of fed off each other.
884
00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:29,860
Uncle Suge was thinking more so of
just getting money
885
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,380
and making money and,
886
00:50:31,380 --> 00:50:34,220
you know, supporting, you know,
I guess black people as a whole.
887
00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:37,260
And Tupac was more,
"Nah, think bigger. Think bigger.
888
00:50:37,260 --> 00:50:40,540
"We can go international,
we can do this, we can do that."
889
00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:43,780
Hence the Death Row East
and etc, etc.
890
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:48,260
I mean, he was like,
"I want our faces printed on money,
891
00:50:48,260 --> 00:50:51,340
"I want something bigger, let's
think bigger, let's think bigger."
892
00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:53,740
And Tupac more was on the bigger
side, "Let's think bigger,"
893
00:50:53,740 --> 00:50:56,500
and Uncle Suge was like, "Huh? OK."
894
00:50:59,340 --> 00:51:02,060
That's Tupac and Uncle Suge,
and they shared everything.
895
00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:05,980
Yes, they shared everything.
896
00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:14,020
Things were totally out of control.
897
00:51:15,940 --> 00:51:17,380
And it's very sad.
898
00:51:19,340 --> 00:51:21,780
I always had that dark sense
899
00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:27,020
that I was always seen to
be the one to kill the joy.
900
00:51:29,980 --> 00:51:33,700
Everybody wanted to be happy
901
00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:36,580
and high and drinking, and I felt
902
00:51:36,580 --> 00:51:38,420
like they smoked too much weed.
903
00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:43,500
You know, the whole atmosphere was
904
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:47,620
one of total disconnect to reality.
905
00:51:47,620 --> 00:51:52,860
But it was way beyond what he needed
906
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:55,260
to deal with the realities
907
00:51:55,260 --> 00:51:57,540
of his life at that time.
908
00:51:57,540 --> 00:51:59,340
He had too much going on that
909
00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:00,980
required a lot of logical,
910
00:52:00,980 --> 00:52:02,820
level-headed thinking,
911
00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:04,900
and he wasn't getting that.
912
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:07,060
I was trying to give it to him,
913
00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:10,460
but he wasn't listening to me.
914
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:12,940
I didn't know who to trust
915
00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:16,340
and I didn't trust Death Row.
916
00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:19,660
They have a get-rich-or-die
ethos on the West Coast,
917
00:52:19,660 --> 00:52:22,900
doesn't matter what you do as long
as you're making money.
918
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:24,940
Death Row made millions, yeah,
919
00:52:24,940 --> 00:52:26,980
but Tupac didn't see that money.
920
00:52:28,940 --> 00:52:32,260
First thing I noticed was that
David Kenner,
921
00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:35,700
who was the lawyer
for Death Row Records,
922
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:37,740
was also Tupac's lawyer.
923
00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:40,580
And I said to him,
"Tupac, that's a contradiction,
924
00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:43,180
"you need your own lawyer."
925
00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:48,100
Tupac did not fire David Kenner
until, I believe, August.
926
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:53,580
So he went all those months
with his business up in the air,
927
00:52:53,580 --> 00:52:57,060
no accountability about his money,
no accountability
928
00:52:57,060 --> 00:53:00,100
about what was being spent,
what was being recouped.
929
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,100
So that's why we were always asking,
930
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:05,740
"Well, how much money
does he actually have?"
931
00:53:05,740 --> 00:53:08,820
Well, every time we would ask
for the audit,
932
00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:10,540
there'd be a new gift.
933
00:53:12,260 --> 00:53:15,260
There'd be a new car.
934
00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:18,900
There'd be a gift to the family.
935
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:22,020
And these cars weren't even
in his name.
936
00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:25,220
When Tupac passed away, that's
the first thing Death Row did,
937
00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:28,380
was come and take the cars back.
938
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:30,540
He didn't want to hear me
telling him that,
939
00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:32,580
"Tupac, they're sending over roses,
940
00:53:32,580 --> 00:53:34,180
"they're sending over cars,
941
00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:36,020
"they're sending over gifts."
942
00:53:36,020 --> 00:53:38,860
I said, "Don't you think there's
something wrong with that?
943
00:53:38,860 --> 00:53:44,140
And he would go all the way,
live off on me and basically say,
944
00:53:44,140 --> 00:53:47,020
"I know it's a problem, OK?
945
00:53:47,020 --> 00:53:49,860
"But I know what I'm doing." Yes.
946
00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:51,460
And it caused conflict.
947
00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:55,420
It caused conflict between
me and him.
948
00:53:55,420 --> 00:53:57,340
It was a living nightmare.
949
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:18,300
Everybody just got too comfortable
and it went the way it went
950
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:21,820
because nobody was in Tupac's ear,
951
00:54:21,820 --> 00:54:25,140
"Nah, homie, we got to protect you,
952
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:26,620
"we got to be like this."
953
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:34,180
Let's say he just put the icing
on the cake
954
00:54:34,180 --> 00:54:36,420
because now there's more fun,
955
00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:40,100
now there's more Tupac trying
to be like, you know,
956
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:43,020
like the security,
opposed to being a rapper.
957
00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:46,740
And he's not on the Snoop Dogg tip,
he's on the homies' tip.
958
00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:50,380
Now there's drinking and getting
high all day
959
00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:53,100
and wanting to beat up somebody,
960
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:56,740
you know, just the whole mentality,
they just changed.
961
00:55:01,340 --> 00:55:04,860
I stopped Tupac from fighting
many times.
962
00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:09,260
Tupac was a disturbed soul
when it came to gangbanging
963
00:55:09,260 --> 00:55:11,500
and fighting and stuff like that.
964
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:12,740
He loved to fight.
965
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:14,740
He loved to fight?
Oh, he loved to fight, yeah.
966
00:55:14,740 --> 00:55:16,980
He loved getting into altercations.
967
00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:19,220
Did he? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
968
00:55:19,220 --> 00:55:21,260
Absolutely.
969
00:55:21,260 --> 00:55:25,300
The night of the fatal shooting,
Tupac, to prove his gang loyalty,
970
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:28,420
took on a Crip gunman called
Orlando Anderson.
971
00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:30,180
SCREAMING
972
00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:38,620
Orlando, a Crip gang member,
was a long-term enemy of the Bloods,
973
00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:41,780
but it would turn out to be a
fatal mistake for Tupac.
974
00:55:41,780 --> 00:55:43,900
Suge himself took part in the fight,
975
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:45,620
for which he would be
sent to prison.
976
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:54,580
Orlando boasted that
he had shot Tupac.
977
00:55:54,580 --> 00:55:58,220
Frank, Tupac's bodyguard,
was in the car behind.
978
00:55:58,220 --> 00:56:00,900
The gun just starts firing.
979
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:04,140
He's obviously aware that bullets
are coming through the car
980
00:56:04,140 --> 00:56:05,500
and he's being shot at.
981
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:09,940
And as he fires,
he hits Tupac a couple of times.
982
00:56:09,940 --> 00:56:12,580
And bullets are bouncing,
going all through the car.
983
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:17,700
As I'm running up to the car,
I'm thinking,
984
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:19,340
"Oh, my God, they're dead."
985
00:56:19,340 --> 00:56:21,180
Suge's laying down on the ground.
986
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:32,780
Tupac is still in
the passenger side.
987
00:56:33,980 --> 00:56:36,540
At that point, we pulled Tupac out
988
00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:39,220
and we laid him down on the ground,
989
00:56:39,220 --> 00:56:41,340
and that's when the paramedics
were taking over,
990
00:56:41,340 --> 00:56:44,740
at that point right there. Did Tupac
say anything at that point?
991
00:56:44,740 --> 00:56:49,220
He just... He moved his arms
from his side and he crossed 'em
992
00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:54,260
over his body, as such, and said,
"I can't breathe."
993
00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:56,500
And that was the last thing
I ever heard him say.
994
00:57:10,820 --> 00:57:14,580
So, we were there the six days,
the six, seven days that Pac was
995
00:57:14,580 --> 00:57:18,460
living, we would go in the room and,
you know, pray.
996
00:57:18,460 --> 00:57:20,700
You know, praying for
him to get better.
997
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:23,140
And, yeah, I sang for him.
I always sang for him, though.
998
00:57:23,140 --> 00:57:27,420
I always sang for him,
but being able to sing for him
999
00:57:27,420 --> 00:57:31,980
in the hospital, while he was
laying how he was, was something.
1000
00:57:31,980 --> 00:57:34,900
I sang Change Is Gonna Come,
it was one of his favourite songs
1001
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:36,380
that he liked me to do.
1002
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:39,620
Remind me of that song.
1003
00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:41,420
So, that's by Sam Cooke.
1004
00:57:41,420 --> 00:57:43,020
You want to hear it?
1005
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:47,100
# I was born by the river
1006
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:49,380
# In a little tent
1007
00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:52,660
# Oh, just like that river
1008
00:57:52,660 --> 00:57:58,060
# I've been running ever since
1009
00:57:58,060 --> 00:58:01,300
# It's been a long
1010
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:04,700
# Long time coming
1011
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:10,500
# And I know a change gon' come
1012
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:13,060
# Oh, yes, it will. #
1013
00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:33,620
Greg Kading, in his book Murder Rap,
alleges the shooting of Tupac
1014
00:58:33,620 --> 00:58:36,940
coincided with Keefe D,
Orlando Anderson's uncle,
1015
00:58:36,940 --> 00:58:41,940
and the Crips being offered
$1 million by Puffy for protection.
1016
00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:45,460
He claims that Puffy was saying,
"Listen, I need you to do something
1017
00:58:45,460 --> 00:58:49,780
"about this conflict I'm having with
Suge Knight and Tupac."
1018
00:58:49,780 --> 00:58:51,180
And, you know, just,
1019
00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:54,740
"I'm tired of having to look
over my shoulders," essentially.
1020
00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:56,060
"Can you handle it?"
1021
00:58:56,060 --> 00:58:57,820
And, of course, Keffe D said,
1022
00:58:57,820 --> 00:59:01,220
"That's no problem,
you know, that's what we do."
1023
00:59:01,220 --> 00:59:05,900
And Keffe D said he wanted
$1 million and Puffy, essentially,
1024
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:08,980
was like, "Just, whatever,
just handle it."
1025
00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:11,980
It was this war that Suge Knight
had with Puffy Combs
1026
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:14,620
that cost so many lives.
1027
00:59:14,620 --> 00:59:18,900
After Orlando shot Tupac, he went
back to Compton, bragging about it.
1028
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:20,260
You know what I'm saying?
1029
00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:23,380
So, we know who killed Tupac,
fo' sho', fo' sho'.
1030
00:59:25,820 --> 00:59:29,700
And it was just a sad thing,
you know what I'm saying?
1031
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:33,100
That these two guys brought gangs
into,
1032
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:36,300
you know, the Hollywood world,
1033
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:38,940
the music industry,
you know what I'm saying?
1034
00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:40,620
So, it destroyed everything.
1035
00:59:50,180 --> 00:59:52,900
After Tupac's death, a major gang
war breaks out
1036
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:54,900
between the Bloods and the Crips.
1037
01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:22,940
Orlando Anderson is arrested
in the police raids,
1038
01:00:22,940 --> 01:00:25,980
but he's never charged because of
insufficient evidence.
1039
01:00:30,180 --> 01:00:33,140
Tupac didn't know
what he was getting into.
1040
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:35,980
He didn't know that the Crips
and Bloods been killing each other
1041
01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:38,820
since the '70s.
And he was a shooter, too.
1042
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:40,580
That's the thing.
1043
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:43,060
When you out here, you don't know
who you messing with.
1044
01:00:43,060 --> 01:00:46,660
If you messing with a shooter,
1045
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:48,700
you gon' get shot.
1046
01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:52,780
If you messing with some fighters,
y'all might be down.
1047
01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:54,580
But it's going to happen.
1048
01:00:54,580 --> 01:00:57,420
That's the thing about it,
is he's going to come back
1049
01:00:57,420 --> 01:01:01,900
and that's how Orlando was.
He wasn't going for that.
1050
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:04,780
Yeah, we had to wear bulletproof
vests, especially going towards
1051
01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:08,380
the end, I had to have security
sleep in my room.
1052
01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:10,860
In my hotel, I had to stay in a
hotel for a while
1053
01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:13,900
and security slept in my room.
1054
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:16,500
And I couldn't move without them.
Why was that?
1055
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:19,020
I mean, all the death threats
that was coming.
1056
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:21,420
A lot of people lost their lives
when Pac died.
1057
01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:24,420
Pac died, but there was a lot of
people that lost their lives.
1058
01:01:26,020 --> 01:01:29,220
And it appears to be possibly
a shooting.
1059
01:01:29,220 --> 01:01:32,940
18 months later, Orlando Anderson
himself is gunned down
1060
01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:35,580
and killed at this car wash in
Compton.
1061
01:01:35,580 --> 01:01:37,460
According to sheriff's deputies,
1062
01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:39,700
one person was struck by gunfire
in Compton.
1063
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:43,340
Right now, we have one down outside
the car, one down inside the car.
1064
01:01:43,340 --> 01:01:46,380
Not surprisingly, nobody in the
community trusts the police,
1065
01:01:46,380 --> 01:01:48,420
who are feared and despised.
1066
01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:53,300
Not snitching to the police is so
basic that even though he knew
1067
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:56,940
the identity of Tupac's gunman,
Suge refused to cooperate.
1068
01:01:56,940 --> 01:02:00,740
If you knew who killed Tupac,
would you tell the police?
1069
01:02:00,740 --> 01:02:03,060
Absolutely not.
1070
01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:06,100
I mean, cos, you know, I...
Why not?
1071
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:07,700
Because it's not my job.
1072
01:02:07,700 --> 01:02:09,940
I don't get paid to solve homicides.
1073
01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:12,180
I don't get paid to tell on people.
1074
01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:15,420
Pam, our producer, had to defend us
from being mistaken
1075
01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:18,660
for LAPD police officer Greg Kading.
1076
01:02:18,660 --> 01:02:21,340
Without Pam, we could never
have made the film.
1077
01:02:24,980 --> 01:02:26,460
No, he's not.
1078
01:02:29,660 --> 01:02:31,460
No, where did you hear that from?
1079
01:02:34,340 --> 01:02:35,500
No!
1080
01:02:37,540 --> 01:02:38,980
I'm 100% sure.
1081
01:02:38,980 --> 01:02:40,620
Where did you get that shit from?
1082
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,380
I mean, I wouldn't,
if he was an ex-police officer,
1083
01:02:50,380 --> 01:02:52,180
you think I would help him
and fuck with him?
1084
01:02:52,180 --> 01:02:55,060
He wasn't... Listen. Uh-uh.
1085
01:02:55,060 --> 01:02:58,100
Didn't he send you the link
to everything you can google
1086
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:00,100
and find out about who he is?
1087
01:03:02,540 --> 01:03:04,180
All right, I'ma send it to you.
1088
01:03:04,180 --> 01:03:05,820
I want you to check it out.
1089
01:03:05,820 --> 01:03:07,420
They lying.
1090
01:03:07,420 --> 01:03:09,460
I don't fuck with the police.
1091
01:03:09,460 --> 01:03:11,900
I mean, let me just say this to you.
1092
01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:14,780
It don't even fucking matter
to me because I don't fuck
1093
01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:18,620
with the police and whoever said
that shit is lying and...
1094
01:03:18,620 --> 01:03:21,860
How the fuck is Nick an ex-police
and he's from fucking England?
1095
01:03:21,860 --> 01:03:23,500
He's from the fucking UK.
1096
01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:41,900
..and he started saying stuff like,
1097
01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:45,820
"What do you do when you
ain't got real friends?
1098
01:03:47,860 --> 01:03:52,540
"What do you do when the people
you love do you wrong?"
1099
01:03:52,540 --> 01:03:55,580
Like, these are some of the words
that I remember
1100
01:03:55,580 --> 01:03:58,300
and he would talk about it a little
more and...
1101
01:03:58,300 --> 01:04:00,900
..he would turn around in the chair,
and when he turned back around,
1102
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:02,860
like about the third time,
he's crying.
1103
01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:07,340
And I knew what that place
was coming from.
1104
01:04:07,340 --> 01:04:10,620
I seen it in his face,
you can almost look in his eyes
1105
01:04:10,620 --> 01:04:14,900
and see just, like, he had this...
just a stare.
1106
01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:18,940
Like he was so surprised
that this happened to Death Row.
1107
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:25,100
So surprised that this could happen
to somebody that he was like
1108
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:28,660
the chief of watch, he was
the overseer, and that happened
1109
01:04:28,660 --> 01:04:32,940
on his watch, and he already thought
that he was untouchable.
1110
01:04:35,060 --> 01:04:37,020
And at that time,
we've been touched.
1111
01:04:37,020 --> 01:04:39,860
What happened in the end
when he got locked up,
1112
01:04:39,860 --> 01:04:42,860
Suge got a little selfish
side of him as well.
1113
01:04:42,860 --> 01:04:44,580
Mean side, mean streak.
1114
01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:49,020
So that attitude, I'm sure, kicked
in, meaning that if I can survive
1115
01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:53,380
off of $5 a week, if I could
survive in jail off of cookies
1116
01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:57,340
and milk, if I could survive
off of not going anywhere,
1117
01:04:57,340 --> 01:05:00,180
if I could live in this
shithole jail,
1118
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:02,780
you should be able to make it
on the streets.
1119
01:05:02,780 --> 01:05:05,420
That's his attitude,
so he didn't even have to tell me.
1120
01:05:05,420 --> 01:05:07,500
I knew that's the kind
of person that he is.
1121
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:08,860
They out there in the streets,
1122
01:05:08,860 --> 01:05:11,140
he's not going to pay
for you to live in Beverly Hills
1123
01:05:11,140 --> 01:05:13,580
and he's in damned
Los Angeles County Jail.
1124
01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:18,060
So it felt like when he got
locked up, we were locked up.
1125
01:05:18,060 --> 01:05:21,300
For sure we was. When Suge Knight
was sentenced to jail,
1126
01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:23,620
that's when everybody went to jail.
1127
01:05:23,620 --> 01:05:26,620
It was a fucking shame, man,
and excuse my language,
1128
01:05:26,620 --> 01:05:30,860
but, you know, at
the end of this thing,
1129
01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:35,500
you know, Snoop is kind of like,
1130
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:37,820
he's like a duck, he's real cool,
1131
01:05:37,820 --> 01:05:44,020
but underneath pedalling like,
"Oh, shit, I hope I don't drown,"
1132
01:05:44,020 --> 01:05:45,300
you know what I mean?
1133
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:47,740
Same thing with, you know,
Dogg Pound,
1134
01:05:47,740 --> 01:05:50,940
same thing with Nate Dogg, same
thing with all the, you know,
1135
01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:54,020
with all the acts, they all get
up there and it's like,
1136
01:05:54,020 --> 01:05:59,060
"Wait a minute - you mean there's
nothing to actually hold on to?"
1137
01:05:59,060 --> 01:06:00,500
That's kind of sad.
1138
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:03,660
That's, that's like...
what was you doing?
1139
01:06:09,380 --> 01:06:11,100
While in jail, he's just...
1140
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:14,500
..he's just stewing and
he's so pissed off.
1141
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:18,700
You know, he just lost his friend,
his number-one artist
1142
01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:23,060
and his record company is kind of
beginning to circle the drain.
1143
01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:26,300
And so he takes it upon himself
to retaliate.
1144
01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:30,180
He puts things into order
to have Biggie killed.
1145
01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:36,860
Somebody had to go at it after
Tupac.
1146
01:06:36,860 --> 01:06:39,260
I truly believe that, so...
1147
01:06:39,260 --> 01:06:40,540
Somebody had to go?
1148
01:06:40,540 --> 01:06:43,100
Yeah, somebody had to die.
1149
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,820
It's way serious now.
1150
01:06:45,820 --> 01:06:50,300
It's way serious now, y'all done
cut the head off the chicken,
1151
01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:54,180
so we got to do the same thing
to y'all
1152
01:06:54,180 --> 01:06:59,420
and that's all it is,
is repercussion, revenge.
1153
01:06:59,420 --> 01:07:00,820
Somebody got to do something.
1154
01:07:00,820 --> 01:07:04,220
Something got to happen because if
don't nothing happen,
1155
01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:07,740
then you have everybody and they
momma from everywhere
1156
01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:08,940
trying to get at you
1157
01:07:08,940 --> 01:07:12,340
because y'all just sit back and let
Tupac get killed.
1158
01:07:12,340 --> 01:07:14,620
So it had to be something.
1159
01:07:16,980 --> 01:07:20,940
Biggie shouldn't have came
to California after Tupac died.
1160
01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:25,620
That was a bad choice for them
to make.
1161
01:07:25,620 --> 01:07:29,540
But the East Coast, West Coast
thing, like I told you before,
1162
01:07:29,540 --> 01:07:32,060
it's just a situation where
it was just me and Pac
1163
01:07:32,060 --> 01:07:34,580
had our little differences
or whatever,
1164
01:07:34,580 --> 01:07:37,540
but I'm here to take over,
saying it's all over with.
1165
01:07:37,540 --> 01:07:39,420
I'm in the West right now.
1166
01:07:39,420 --> 01:07:41,620
If you need me, if you want
to see me, talk to me,
1167
01:07:41,620 --> 01:07:45,340
whatever you want to do,
now the time. Call on up.
1168
01:07:45,340 --> 01:07:51,420
And they all on Power 106 and they
just all over the radio stations
1169
01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:54,620
and, you know, and Pac is dead now.
1170
01:07:54,620 --> 01:07:57,660
I'm like, "What the fuck
is these dudes thinking about?"
1171
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:06,700
And there's already an undercurrent
grumbling happening in LA.
1172
01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:09,700
Like, these niggas got a lot
of nerve.
1173
01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:11,900
They going to just come out here.
1174
01:08:11,900 --> 01:08:14,740
I'm serious. These is now all the
gang dudes in LA
1175
01:08:14,740 --> 01:08:17,380
and I'm talking about
Mexican gangs, too.
1176
01:08:17,380 --> 01:08:21,260
This had nothing... This wasn't
just black gangs saying it.
1177
01:08:21,260 --> 01:08:23,220
"I'm going to get them
motherfuckers."
1178
01:08:39,820 --> 01:08:42,300
Both theories about the
shooting of Biggie Smalls
1179
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:45,380
agree that Suge Knight ordered
the hit from prison.
1180
01:08:45,380 --> 01:08:48,260
Kading argues that the police were
not involved and the hit
1181
01:08:48,260 --> 01:08:50,140
was carried out by Blood gangsters.
1182
01:08:50,140 --> 01:08:53,220
Russell Poole has always argued
that dirty cops did it.
1183
01:08:53,220 --> 01:08:56,420
You know, had it been just
your ordinary drive-by shooting
1184
01:08:56,420 --> 01:09:00,660
by some unexperienced gangbangers,
we would have solved it
1185
01:09:00,660 --> 01:09:03,140
a long time ago,
no question about it.
1186
01:09:03,140 --> 01:09:06,980
But you've got to think to yourself,
well, who could do this
1187
01:09:06,980 --> 01:09:08,340
and get away with it?
1188
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:10,620
You've got to get into their mind.
1189
01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:13,060
GUNFIRE
1190
01:09:15,580 --> 01:09:18,980
911 emergency. Yeah, we need an
ambulance on 5th after Wiltshire.
1191
01:09:18,980 --> 01:09:22,980
Please, we have a man shot.
We have a shot.
1192
01:09:22,980 --> 01:09:25,060
OK, hold on, I'll get that to you.
1193
01:09:25,060 --> 01:09:27,580
Right on the corner of Wiltshire
and 5th.
1194
01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:30,500
We have a man shot in our car
right now!
1195
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:33,580
We're rolling to a hospital
right now...
1196
01:09:33,580 --> 01:09:36,420
Listen, is the body that was shot
in your car? No.
1197
01:09:36,420 --> 01:09:38,100
You're going to the hospital?
1198
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:42,300
Thing is, that was a pro.
1199
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:45,460
That wasn't no bunch of scattered
fucking bullet holes,
1200
01:09:45,460 --> 01:09:48,180
them bullet holes went straight
across like that.
1201
01:09:48,180 --> 01:09:52,900
Wasn't no scattered bullets,
like in the BMW, the Tupac car.
1202
01:09:52,900 --> 01:09:54,540
It was a straight line.
1203
01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:00,180
Russell Poole gave up his career to
solve this murder
1204
01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:03,180
and was vilified by his superiors.
1205
01:10:03,180 --> 01:10:07,100
I was told not to talk about
the Biggie Smalls killing.
1206
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:11,580
During the course of the
investigation of David Mack
1207
01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:15,820
possibly being involved in the
Biggie Smalls case,
1208
01:10:15,820 --> 01:10:17,140
I was told, hey,
1209
01:10:17,140 --> 01:10:20,300
Mack had already gone down
for the bank robbery.
1210
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:22,740
Let's not get into any more
controversy.
1211
01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:24,980
And that was that.
1212
01:10:24,980 --> 01:10:28,820
And there was no urgency
to investigate David Mack
1213
01:10:28,820 --> 01:10:30,820
for the killing of Biggie Smalls.
1214
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:37,300
Four years later, in the year 2000,
when still nobody had been charged
1215
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:41,100
for the murders, we take Russell
to New York and introduce him
1216
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:45,900
to Voletta Wallace, Biggie's mum,
who is equally frustrated.
1217
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:47,300
Hi.
1218
01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:52,500
So this is... Hi, Mrs Wallace,
how you doing?
1219
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:54,340
I'm Russ Poole.
1220
01:10:54,340 --> 01:10:57,900
Nice to meet you. Oh, hey there.
1221
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:01,540
How are you? Nice to see you again.
1222
01:11:01,540 --> 01:11:03,540
Hi there.
1223
01:11:03,540 --> 01:11:07,660
You know, there are some private
investigators working on
1224
01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:11,380
some good leads, and if they come up
with some good stuff,
1225
01:11:11,380 --> 01:11:14,060
we'll be sure to come back out here.
1226
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:18,220
OK. Voletta went on to file
a $500 million lawsuit,
1227
01:11:18,220 --> 01:11:21,220
an estimate of her son's
lifetime earnings,
1228
01:11:21,220 --> 01:11:23,740
against the City of Los Angeles.
1229
01:11:23,740 --> 01:11:26,980
All it was is a Puffy
and Suge Knight war,
1230
01:11:26,980 --> 01:11:31,780
so if that's the case, Puffy, Suge
Knight, solve your damn problem.
1231
01:11:31,780 --> 01:11:34,460
They should have done that.
1232
01:11:34,460 --> 01:11:37,300
So that's where the East Coast,
West Coast thing came.
1233
01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:38,860
Everybody wants to be famous,
1234
01:11:38,860 --> 01:11:41,980
so they went to the newspaper
and gave their own little stories.
1235
01:11:41,980 --> 01:11:44,220
And everybody start East Coast,
West Coast.
1236
01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:46,820
East Coast was Puffy,
West Coast was Suge Knight.
1237
01:11:46,820 --> 01:11:49,940
East Coast was Biggie,
West Coast was Tupac.
1238
01:11:49,940 --> 01:11:52,700
Come on now.
You're messing with lives here.
1239
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:54,540
And that's exactly what happened.
1240
01:11:54,540 --> 01:11:57,180
Two lives were lost as a result
of what?
1241
01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:58,820
Stupidity?
1242
01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:05,100
Years later, I discovered that this
earlier film I did with Voletta
1243
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:09,460
did prompt an FBI investigation into
possible LAPD involvement
1244
01:12:09,460 --> 01:12:11,060
with her son's murder.
1245
01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:19,260
I really was watching TV one night
and I came across this documentary,
1246
01:12:19,260 --> 01:12:21,780
it was on the whole Biggie murder.
1247
01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:26,220
So I wrote up a long report to my
bosses, they all signed off on it.
1248
01:12:26,220 --> 01:12:27,900
They said, "Yeah, you know what?
1249
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:31,140
"You've got something here,
let's run with it."
1250
01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:34,540
So that's how the whole
case got started.
1251
01:12:35,980 --> 01:12:39,700
The LAPD did not welcome this FBI
investigation and set up
1252
01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:43,300
their own, looking for evidence
to counterattack
1253
01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:45,540
the Biggie Smalls lawsuit.
1254
01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:48,740
Greg Kading was the head
of Operation Transparency.
1255
01:12:48,740 --> 01:12:52,980
Yeah, so as that lawsuit kind of
weaved in and out of the courts,
1256
01:12:52,980 --> 01:12:57,900
it came to a point where the LAPD
realised, you know, in civil court,
1257
01:12:57,900 --> 01:13:00,180
just about anything could happen
and they thought
1258
01:13:00,180 --> 01:13:04,740
it would be in their best interest
to re-look at the case.
1259
01:13:06,580 --> 01:13:10,780
The City of LA prevented the lead
FBI investigator, Phil Carson,
1260
01:13:10,780 --> 01:13:13,380
from testifying at the trial.
1261
01:13:13,380 --> 01:13:17,900
They said, "Yeah, you're not
looking into solving a murder,
1262
01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:20,900
"you're looking into solving
a murder that involved
1263
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:23,740
"the LAPD orchestrating it."
1264
01:13:23,740 --> 01:13:26,700
They said, "You guys got to squash
this subpoena
1265
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:30,620
"because if Phil testifies, we got
at least a 50/50 chance of losing
1266
01:13:30,620 --> 01:13:33,100
"a $500 million lawsuit."
1267
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:35,260
And to be honest with you,
they're right.
1268
01:13:35,260 --> 01:13:38,740
I think it's better
than a 50/50 chance.
1269
01:13:41,980 --> 01:13:46,620
Greg Kading, who headed up the LAPD
task force, disputes that LAPD cops
1270
01:13:46,620 --> 01:13:49,420
were involved in the hit
on Biggie Smalls.
1271
01:13:49,420 --> 01:13:52,780
He not only wrote a book,
but was involved in a major series
1272
01:13:52,780 --> 01:13:54,780
on Netflix and on BET
1273
01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:57,580
and his views are widely
accepted today.
1274
01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:02,900
He says the officers Mack and Perez
never worked at Death Row,
1275
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:07,100
but we came up with new evidence
showing Greg Kading is incorrect.
1276
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:11,260
David Mack, the LAPD officer,
never, ever worked or was affiliated
1277
01:14:11,260 --> 01:14:13,300
and associated
with Death Row Records at all.
1278
01:14:13,300 --> 01:14:16,780
Neither was Rafael Perez,
and those were the two individuals
1279
01:14:16,780 --> 01:14:19,380
that jailhouse informants
had claimed
1280
01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:21,620
were part of Death Row's security.
1281
01:14:21,620 --> 01:14:23,020
They weren't, ever.
1282
01:14:23,020 --> 01:14:26,740
And that was looked into not only
by the original investigators
1283
01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:29,420
back in the mid '90s, but also by
our task force.
1284
01:14:34,620 --> 01:14:38,980
Officer David Mack was apparently
a charismatic and social guy,
1285
01:14:38,980 --> 01:14:42,940
so many people at Death Row
remember him.
1286
01:14:42,940 --> 01:14:44,540
I knew David very well.
1287
01:14:44,540 --> 01:14:47,220
I was actually quite shocked
when I saw David
1288
01:14:47,220 --> 01:14:50,860
and he was in LAPD, very surprised.
1289
01:14:50,860 --> 01:14:57,100
And he came with me to the video
shoot when we were doing Mac Mall
1290
01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:02,220
and Ray Luv's video shoot, and Tupac
was directing and he wanted
1291
01:15:02,220 --> 01:15:06,940
to be connected because he wanted
to do off-duty work for rap artists.
1292
01:15:06,940 --> 01:15:10,580
And I brought him
to that video shoot
1293
01:15:10,580 --> 01:15:15,860
and a little later, I found out
he was working with all the rappers
1294
01:15:15,860 --> 01:15:20,900
I knew off-duty and a lot
of other cops that I knew.
1295
01:15:24,980 --> 01:15:28,820
Leila isn't the only one
who remembers Mack and Perez.
1296
01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:32,220
Yeah, I seen him. I've seen David
Mack plenty of time.
1297
01:15:32,220 --> 01:15:34,940
They had to come to the party
because you never knew
1298
01:15:34,940 --> 01:15:37,180
when it was going to jump off.
1299
01:15:37,180 --> 01:15:39,420
Hung out with them,
1300
01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:41,460
been in the room with them,
1301
01:15:41,460 --> 01:15:43,500
been around them. You know,
1302
01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:46,300
ever since they'd been around,
I was around.
1303
01:15:46,300 --> 01:15:47,940
That's all I've got.
1304
01:15:47,940 --> 01:15:49,180
And who was the other one?
1305
01:15:49,180 --> 01:15:53,700
Rafael Perez. Rafael Perez,
seen him too.
1306
01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:57,100
Like I said, it wasn't
no different from us.
1307
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:59,780
Only thing, they had badges
and we didn't.
1308
01:15:59,780 --> 01:16:03,180
So, you know, we might be somewhere,
you know, it'd go like this.
1309
01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:05,540
We'd get into it with whoever
we get into it with,
1310
01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:08,860
and when the police rushed us,
our police rushed them.
1311
01:16:08,860 --> 01:16:10,540
That's how it went.
1312
01:16:13,700 --> 01:16:15,980
That's how the get down went.
1313
01:16:15,980 --> 01:16:18,340
Yes, Officer Perez.
1314
01:16:18,340 --> 01:16:20,260
He was friends with Suge.
1315
01:16:20,260 --> 01:16:23,100
I seen him up there
several, several times.
1316
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:25,980
Several times, and he was friends
with Suge.
1317
01:16:25,980 --> 01:16:28,540
I seen him in uniform
and out of uniform,
1318
01:16:28,540 --> 01:16:31,460
and out of uniform, he'd try to be,
try to look like he cool and shit.
1319
01:16:31,460 --> 01:16:33,780
He would wear little accents of
red, you know.
1320
01:16:33,780 --> 01:16:35,660
You know, like try to fit in.
1321
01:16:35,660 --> 01:16:38,700
I'm like, "Oh, that's what
the police do."
1322
01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:42,420
But I never knew that he was
a part of that Rampart Division shit
1323
01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:45,460
until I seen him. And out of all the
police in the world
1324
01:16:45,460 --> 01:16:48,980
that I remember, I remember him
for being up on Death Row.
1325
01:16:48,980 --> 01:16:51,100
And then there's another one,
1326
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:53,740
the one that they said killed
Biggie, right?
1327
01:16:53,740 --> 01:16:55,180
Black too.
1328
01:16:57,820 --> 01:17:00,460
He used to be up there too.
1329
01:17:00,460 --> 01:17:03,780
I don't know if he did this,
but the one
1330
01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:08,180
that they had on the nose,
he was there a lot.
1331
01:17:10,340 --> 01:17:12,220
Hi. Good morning.
1332
01:17:12,220 --> 01:17:13,660
Very good of you to see us.
1333
01:17:13,660 --> 01:17:15,300
What makes Kading's comments
1334
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:18,700
about Mack and Perez look
especially weak is that even
1335
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:22,420
Police Chief Bernard Parks himself
said they worked for Death Row.
1336
01:17:22,420 --> 01:17:27,020
We know that David Mack and Rafael
Perez both worked security
1337
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:31,140
in this rap culture as it relates
to some of these artists.
1338
01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:32,980
But we've had... Death Row.
1339
01:17:32,980 --> 01:17:36,100
Death Row Records, but
we have no information,
1340
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:40,260
nor has any information come forward
that would cause us to believe
1341
01:17:40,260 --> 01:17:41,900
that either one of them
are suspects.
1342
01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:46,580
If, in our continuing investigation,
we uncover facts that we can prove,
1343
01:17:46,580 --> 01:17:49,620
then we will continue moving forward
to clear that case.
1344
01:17:49,620 --> 01:17:54,140
But until then, what we've seen so
far is merely undocumented
1345
01:17:54,140 --> 01:17:58,220
speculation that has not led to any
significant leads.
1346
01:17:58,220 --> 01:18:01,420
It would appear that Police Chief
Bernard Parks should have been well
1347
01:18:01,420 --> 01:18:05,060
acquainted with Mack and Perez,
according to Xavier Hermosillo.
1348
01:18:05,060 --> 01:18:08,740
One of the most shocking things on
that Board of Rights,
1349
01:18:08,740 --> 01:18:12,380
or any that I've ever done
in over 30 years,
1350
01:18:12,380 --> 01:18:16,700
was there was a photograph
of Rafael Perez and David Mack
1351
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:21,140
who are the two police officers
that were bad, bad, bad news,
1352
01:18:21,140 --> 01:18:24,580
and a woman standing in the middle,
and they were all dressed in red
1353
01:18:24,580 --> 01:18:28,420
from head to toe, the hat,
whatever, which is the colour of
1354
01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:32,340
the Blood gangs. There's the Crips
and their colours are blue.
1355
01:18:32,340 --> 01:18:37,300
And so these guys were dressed
in red and they were standing
1356
01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:40,220
behind the table where there was
a cake that said something
1357
01:18:40,220 --> 01:18:43,340
about "Bloods rule" or, you know,
something like that.
1358
01:18:43,340 --> 01:18:46,300
And I was startled
because I recognised the woman.
1359
01:18:46,300 --> 01:18:49,580
And it was the daughter
of police chief Bernard Parks,
1360
01:18:49,580 --> 01:18:52,580
who it appeared
was a Blood gang member.
1361
01:18:52,580 --> 01:18:55,620
That's... That's incredible.
1362
01:18:55,620 --> 01:18:57,260
Yeah, tell me about it.
1363
01:18:57,260 --> 01:19:01,660
I looked at this thing, I turned
to my two partners and I said,
1364
01:19:01,660 --> 01:19:05,140
"Is this what I think it is?"
And they said, "Yeah."
1365
01:19:08,060 --> 01:19:10,940
The Biggie Smalls estate lawyers
were never able to get a copy
1366
01:19:10,940 --> 01:19:14,860
of this photograph, which
mysteriously disappeared.
1367
01:19:14,860 --> 01:19:18,980
It is also alleged that Michelle
Parks and Officer Rafael Perez
1368
01:19:18,980 --> 01:19:21,220
were in a dating relationship.
1369
01:19:22,380 --> 01:19:26,300
Officer David Mack was later
convicted for this bank robbery.
1370
01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:29,980
It's alleged that on the night
of the robbery, Michelle Parks, Mack
1371
01:19:29,980 --> 01:19:33,340
and Perez celebrated at the
Rio Hotel in Las Vegas.
1372
01:19:35,540 --> 01:19:37,860
When, on a subsequent occasion,
1373
01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:42,380
Michelle Parks was arrested
in Las Vegas for narcotics,
1374
01:19:42,380 --> 01:19:44,780
it is Rafael Perez who posts bail.
1375
01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:52,900
Xavier also mentions the account
of this man, Boagni, and another
1376
01:19:52,900 --> 01:19:56,380
cellmate of Officer Perez,
who allege Perez took part
1377
01:19:56,380 --> 01:19:58,580
in Biggie's murder and were
threatened with death
1378
01:19:58,580 --> 01:20:00,660
if they testified against him.
1379
01:20:00,660 --> 01:20:02,460
I have a great admiration and
respect for
1380
01:20:02,460 --> 01:20:05,300
the Los Angeles Police Department,
but this is the one time,
1381
01:20:05,300 --> 01:20:08,420
and I've been around
the department 40 years
1382
01:20:08,420 --> 01:20:09,780
as a civilian,
1383
01:20:09,780 --> 01:20:13,700
and one of the things that I think
bothered me the most
1384
01:20:13,700 --> 01:20:19,540
was how this, this one case,
being the murder of Biggie Smalls,
1385
01:20:19,540 --> 01:20:24,020
and everything that emanated
from it was really problematic.
1386
01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:27,220
And in this particular case,
with these two prisoners,
1387
01:20:27,220 --> 01:20:31,180
they were visited at their prisons
1,000 miles apart and told
1388
01:20:31,180 --> 01:20:34,700
not to come and testify in the
Board of Rights hearing
1389
01:20:34,700 --> 01:20:36,180
that I was involved with.
1390
01:20:36,180 --> 01:20:40,420
And they were told that if they did
testify, that friends of Perez
1391
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:44,900
who were in prison would have them
killed for testifying,
1392
01:20:44,900 --> 01:20:50,700
for "snitching". That I found to be
just abhorrent, just illegal.
1393
01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:55,420
And it was LAPD police officers
who told them. It was two detectives
1394
01:20:55,420 --> 01:20:59,820
and we heard it for the first time
when Boagni, Kenny Boagni,
1395
01:20:59,820 --> 01:21:04,020
sort of blurted it out. I asked him
a question and he started,
1396
01:21:04,020 --> 01:21:06,060
you know, kind of shaking
a little bit.
1397
01:21:06,060 --> 01:21:08,060
And then the advocate
for the department,
1398
01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:09,700
who was like the prosecutor,
1399
01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:11,940
he jumps up and he gets in his
face and he says,
1400
01:21:11,940 --> 01:21:14,740
"Keep your mouth shut. You were told
not to talk about that."
1401
01:21:14,740 --> 01:21:16,540
That was so unreal.
1402
01:21:16,540 --> 01:21:19,020
I'd never seen that
in all the years
1403
01:21:19,020 --> 01:21:21,540
of being involved
with the department.
1404
01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:30,020
Shortly afterwards, I received
a phone call from Boagni,
1405
01:21:30,020 --> 01:21:33,460
who is currently serving
a 40-year sentence in state prison.
1406
01:21:33,460 --> 01:21:37,500
This call is from an inmate
at a federal prison.
1407
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:41,780
So are you saying that Suge Knight
was behind the hit, though?
1408
01:21:49,940 --> 01:21:54,580
So which, which... Which officers
are you saying were implicated
1409
01:21:54,580 --> 01:21:57,220
in the murder of Biggie Smalls?
1410
01:21:57,220 --> 01:22:00,060
This call and/or telephone number
will be monitored and recorded.
1411
01:22:23,140 --> 01:22:27,420
It is this testimony from Boagni
that is concealed by the LAPD
1412
01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:30,060
and kept from the Biggie Smalls
lawyers.
1413
01:22:30,060 --> 01:22:33,980
The LAPD will be fined $1.1 million
by a US district judge
1414
01:22:33,980 --> 01:22:36,020
for concealing evidence.
1415
01:22:49,220 --> 01:22:53,300
However, it's Kading's unfounded
theory that over time, with podcasts
1416
01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:56,780
and TV shows, is accepted
as valid today.
1417
01:22:56,780 --> 01:23:00,300
Whereas Russell Poole,
an outstanding police officer
1418
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:03,140
for 20 years, is discredited
and ostracised.
1419
01:23:04,860 --> 01:23:09,380
I mean, I almost took my life,
but it was my kids
1420
01:23:09,380 --> 01:23:12,220
that actually saved me, OK?
1421
01:23:12,220 --> 01:23:16,660
And it hurt. I was betrayed
by my own department
1422
01:23:16,660 --> 01:23:21,540
because of the core values that the
Los Angeles Police Department
1423
01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:23,260
preached from day one.
1424
01:23:23,260 --> 01:23:24,980
Honesty, integrity.
1425
01:23:26,780 --> 01:23:28,620
OK, tell the truth.
1426
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:35,020
Swear to tell the truth, nothing
but the truth, so help you God.
1427
01:23:35,020 --> 01:23:38,220
Do a good job, do a thorough
investigation,
1428
01:23:38,220 --> 01:23:42,260
work for the community.
I believed in the oath of office.
1429
01:23:43,460 --> 01:23:47,300
I believed in protecting
and serving the people.
1430
01:23:47,300 --> 01:23:48,940
I really did.
1431
01:23:48,940 --> 01:23:54,180
But on the inside, behind closed
doors, that it wasn't the case.
1432
01:23:54,180 --> 01:23:59,100
When it came to cops
being investigated,
1433
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:02,380
we weren't serving the public the
way we should have
1434
01:24:02,380 --> 01:24:04,700
served the public.
And when I'm assigned...
1435
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:08,060
Solving these murders would dominate
Russell's life.
1436
01:24:08,060 --> 01:24:11,780
He died tragically of a heart attack
at LA sheriff's headquarters
1437
01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:14,220
during a meeting
about the Biggie Smalls murder.
1438
01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:18,020
..not be suppressed and kept away
from the public.
1439
01:24:18,020 --> 01:24:21,100
A lot of what Russ Poole did,
telling you right now,
1440
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:24,700
that guy was legit. For people to
say that he was
1441
01:24:24,700 --> 01:24:27,940
a disgraced detective,
it's not fair.
1442
01:24:27,940 --> 01:24:29,420
The guy knew what he was doing.
1443
01:24:29,420 --> 01:24:32,620
He was, he was actually a good cop
and they did what they could
1444
01:24:32,620 --> 01:24:35,460
to shut him down. And I know a lot
of people like to say,
1445
01:24:35,460 --> 01:24:37,300
"Oh, he keeps going down this
theory..."
1446
01:24:37,300 --> 01:24:39,940
No, his theory is correct.
1447
01:24:47,380 --> 01:24:51,780
The only time I met Suge Knight was
in 2002, when he was serving nine
1448
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:56,220
years for the Orlando Anderson
fight. Both Kading and Russell
1449
01:24:56,220 --> 01:24:59,420
agree Suge Knight commissioned
the Biggie Smalls murder,
1450
01:24:59,420 --> 01:25:02,100
yet he's never been charged.
1451
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:05,140
When I went to visit him at Mule
Creek State Prison,
1452
01:25:05,140 --> 01:25:07,420
Death Row was already collapsing.
1453
01:25:07,420 --> 01:25:10,820
Both Dre and Snoop had left
and Suge Knight was trying to manage
1454
01:25:10,820 --> 01:25:12,820
Death Row from prison.
1455
01:25:12,820 --> 01:25:14,660
Oh, OK.
1456
01:25:31,660 --> 01:25:35,220
By now, Suge had mentally moved on
to his new enemy, Snoop,
1457
01:25:35,220 --> 01:25:36,820
who had just left Death Row.
1458
01:25:36,820 --> 01:25:39,700
If you hear about a lot
of the artists, used to be someone
1459
01:25:39,700 --> 01:25:44,100
used to be on Death Row, someone on
other labels, you might hear them
1460
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:46,140
getting caught with drugs,
1461
01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:49,380
getting caught with a gun, stab
somebody, do those type of crimes,
1462
01:25:49,380 --> 01:25:51,220
they're not going to come to prison.
1463
01:25:51,220 --> 01:25:54,420
One reason... You mean like Snoop.
Snoop would never come.
1464
01:25:54,420 --> 01:25:56,940
I mean, Snoop was... We'd be at the
murder trial for him
1465
01:25:56,940 --> 01:25:58,580
but then he was on probation,
1466
01:25:58,580 --> 01:26:01,180
then he got caught with
2oz of marijuana.
1467
01:26:01,180 --> 01:26:02,540
Then he get caught with guns.
1468
01:26:02,540 --> 01:26:05,060
And each time it's nothing, they're
not going to violate him,
1469
01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:07,980
because for the street guys, street
guys know what I'm talking about.
1470
01:26:07,980 --> 01:26:09,220
There's no puzzle.
1471
01:26:09,220 --> 01:26:11,740
I mean, if you get a guy
that's constantly getting in trouble
1472
01:26:11,740 --> 01:26:14,580
and never going to prison, that's
because he's an informer,
1473
01:26:14,580 --> 01:26:16,420
he's a rat, a snitch, you know.
1474
01:26:16,420 --> 01:26:20,500
And they more important to the
police on the streets than in here
1475
01:26:20,500 --> 01:26:22,740
because they let them know
what's going on.
1476
01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:25,300
They might save their soul by
telling on three or four
1477
01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:27,940
or five other guys.
You know, I'm from Compton.
1478
01:26:27,940 --> 01:26:30,740
A rat is the lowest you can go,
a rat will do anything.
1479
01:26:30,740 --> 01:26:32,980
This was Suge's message to Snoop.
1480
01:26:32,980 --> 01:26:34,300
BARKING
1481
01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:35,700
GUNFIRE
1482
01:26:35,700 --> 01:26:36,740
WHIMPERS
1483
01:26:57,340 --> 01:27:02,540
When Suge got back out in 2001,
you know, he changed the name
1484
01:27:02,540 --> 01:27:04,340
to Tha Row.
1485
01:27:04,340 --> 01:27:07,620
It never rose,
it never prospered at all.
1486
01:27:08,780 --> 01:27:12,620
Suge was just living off of Death
Row reputation. He was living
1487
01:27:12,620 --> 01:27:17,100
off of the reputation of people
that wasn't even alive no more.
1488
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:20,420
So I left Death Row in, like, 2002.
1489
01:27:20,420 --> 01:27:23,660
It was really over with,
it was just like...
1490
01:27:23,660 --> 01:27:26,980
To me, it was just like a little
gang hang-out.
1491
01:27:35,180 --> 01:27:38,300
Once Suge lost everything, he lost
everything, he lost his accountants,
1492
01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:41,740
he lost everything, he didn't have
nobody really on his side.
1493
01:27:41,740 --> 01:27:44,580
And Jimmy Iovine, them, they
businessmen.
1494
01:27:44,580 --> 01:27:46,460
They was consistently
getting the money.
1495
01:27:53,780 --> 01:27:56,220
Where did all the money end up?
1496
01:27:56,220 --> 01:28:00,420
I don't know, I know a fool
and his money shall soon part.
1497
01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:03,500
I know that the fool lost his money.
1498
01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:06,740
From doing foolish things.
That's Suge.
1499
01:28:06,740 --> 01:28:10,420
We know the big boys got
the bag, they took the bag.
1500
01:28:11,780 --> 01:28:15,460
David Kading ain't... I guarantee
you David ain't broke.
1501
01:28:15,460 --> 01:28:19,300
Ted Field, come on, that's
Marshall Field's brother.
1502
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:23,580
The Seagrams family
is intertwined in that.
1503
01:28:23,580 --> 01:28:25,900
They not broke.
1504
01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,060
But, you know, Suge was standing
up in the wrong way
1505
01:28:29,060 --> 01:28:30,460
to the wrong people.
1506
01:28:31,940 --> 01:28:37,380
You know, you can't, you can't scare
Jimmy Iovine. Don't even make sense.
1507
01:28:37,380 --> 01:28:41,860
That's coming from the east
to the west.
1508
01:28:41,860 --> 01:28:45,740
This is my homeboy right here, you
know what I'm saying?
1509
01:28:45,740 --> 01:28:49,380
My PO let me out here but fuck with
me, my niggas went to war,
1510
01:28:49,380 --> 01:28:51,140
but this my nigga. This like my
brother.
1511
01:28:51,140 --> 01:28:54,060
I'ma fuck niggas up behind the
homeboy, nigga.
1512
01:28:54,060 --> 01:28:56,420
Suge money wasn't the way it was
no more.
1513
01:28:56,420 --> 01:28:59,340
You know, he wasn't making
no more money.
1514
01:28:59,340 --> 01:29:02,260
So when he wasn't making no more
money, the people that he wanted
1515
01:29:02,260 --> 01:29:03,620
to get from the neighbourhood,
1516
01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:05,820
he wouldn't have.
1517
01:29:05,820 --> 01:29:08,180
So they started dropping off.
1518
01:29:08,180 --> 01:29:12,100
And that's why a lot of times
you just see Suge, he's by himself.
1519
01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:17,580
And once the people on the street
seen that,
1520
01:29:17,580 --> 01:29:19,660
they start attacking Suge.
1521
01:29:19,660 --> 01:29:21,820
GUNFIRE
1522
01:29:47,260 --> 01:29:49,220
He got shot at Chris Brown's party.
1523
01:29:49,220 --> 01:29:50,660
He got knocked out.
1524
01:29:54,820 --> 01:29:58,060
Some people was like, you know
what I'm saying, you ain't nothing.
1525
01:30:00,460 --> 01:30:02,300
I mean, things start to happen
to him
1526
01:30:02,300 --> 01:30:04,940
that would never
would have happened.
1527
01:30:04,940 --> 01:30:06,900
It's just like Moses.
1528
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:11,420
Moses had a veil, he didn't want
nobody to see that the light
1529
01:30:11,420 --> 01:30:13,260
was gone on his face.
1530
01:30:13,260 --> 01:30:17,580
So Suge veil start to...
appear that these people
1531
01:30:17,580 --> 01:30:20,380
wasn't behind him no more,
1532
01:30:20,380 --> 01:30:22,860
so the people weren't scared
no more.
1533
01:30:22,860 --> 01:30:27,780
All I know is none of the guys
that was working for Death Row
1534
01:30:27,780 --> 01:30:30,700
got a house, didn't get
a car out of it.
1535
01:30:33,820 --> 01:30:38,060
Don't have a big bank account,
everybody it's just back...
1536
01:30:38,060 --> 01:30:40,060
It's like the Cinderella story,
1537
01:30:40,060 --> 01:30:42,860
12 o'clock everything changed back
into the same thing,
1538
01:30:42,860 --> 01:30:44,220
changed back into what it is.
1539
01:30:44,220 --> 01:30:45,980
That's how it is in Compton.
1540
01:30:45,980 --> 01:30:48,620
Everybody just changed back
into what they were.
1541
01:30:48,620 --> 01:30:52,340
You know what I'm saying?
It was good, Tupac...
1542
01:30:52,340 --> 01:30:56,820
Death Row, they had Tupac for
11 months, I think, and...
1543
01:30:56,820 --> 01:30:59,580
..everybody was good, but soon
as he passed,
1544
01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:01,420
everybody turned back into...
1545
01:31:03,620 --> 01:31:06,060
..just a regular old cat
in the neighbourhood.
1546
01:31:06,060 --> 01:31:09,540
It was all gone, from rags
to riches to worse.
1547
01:31:11,140 --> 01:31:13,140
Or to the dirt.
1548
01:31:15,300 --> 01:31:18,940
This is Rosecrans and Atlantic,
I believe this is still Compton.
1549
01:31:18,940 --> 01:31:21,740
Looks like more than likely
they were shot while trying
1550
01:31:21,740 --> 01:31:23,380
to fill up their car with gas.
1551
01:31:23,380 --> 01:31:27,180
Suge Knight, struggling to maintain
control, created a rivalry
1552
01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:30,740
between his own Blood gang members,
who started killing each other.
1553
01:31:30,740 --> 01:31:35,340
A lot of them died for him,
including my brother.
1554
01:31:35,340 --> 01:31:39,180
Some guys got out a van
and AK'd him down.
1555
01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:46,940
I think he got shot nine times,
ten times and he was laying there.
1556
01:31:48,940 --> 01:31:51,180
I seen the scene so many times,
1557
01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:55,500
I've seen what happened to him so
many times, you know...
1558
01:31:57,140 --> 01:32:00,100
..I can say I can't even imagine
that somebody would do him
1559
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,300
like that, but that's how
we was living.
1560
01:32:02,300 --> 01:32:04,900
That's the shit we was doing
when we was doing drive-bys.
1561
01:32:04,900 --> 01:32:07,820
That's the shit that I lived for,
1562
01:32:07,820 --> 01:32:11,060
that I had to go out
and live like that.
1563
01:32:11,060 --> 01:32:14,020
So, seeing my brother,
1564
01:32:14,020 --> 01:32:17,180
it was, it was so different.
1565
01:32:17,180 --> 01:32:23,060
It was like, I had to step
outside of myself and to see him
1566
01:32:23,060 --> 01:32:25,900
laying there with his eyes open
and just...
1567
01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:29,860
I had, I had so much anger in me.
1568
01:32:34,020 --> 01:32:35,660
This is...
1569
01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:42,380
It's rough talking about him.
1570
01:32:42,380 --> 01:32:46,820
Every time they mention his name,
I get choked up.
1571
01:32:53,660 --> 01:32:57,180
The pain is, is, is this
cold feeling.
1572
01:33:08,140 --> 01:33:11,940
But I guess in a way, his death
gave you something. Huh?
1573
01:33:11,940 --> 01:33:15,860
His death gave you something too.
It taught me a lot.
1574
01:33:15,860 --> 01:33:20,740
It gave me a better understanding
of my self-destruction,
1575
01:33:20,740 --> 01:33:23,140
what I was doing to other people.
1576
01:33:24,820 --> 01:33:27,940
I know there's somebody right now,
that they feeling the same way
1577
01:33:27,940 --> 01:33:30,340
about their brother, you know
what I'm saying?
1578
01:33:30,340 --> 01:33:35,180
And, you know, I can't do nothing
but apologise for the way I lived.
1579
01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:40,020
And I'm trying to make it better.
I'm trying to help people.
1580
01:33:54,660 --> 01:33:57,900
Karma's a motherfucker.
1581
01:33:57,900 --> 01:34:01,380
And he's paying for it. If you ever
been in prison, you ain't got
1582
01:34:01,380 --> 01:34:05,460
nothing time to think, especially
when you sitting in that damn cell.
1583
01:34:05,460 --> 01:34:09,740
You're going to think about every
one of those guys that's dead.
1584
01:34:09,740 --> 01:34:15,180
Your Biggies, your Herons, your Hen
Dogs, your Chins, your Buntrys.
1585
01:34:15,180 --> 01:34:19,940
You're going to think about all
of these guys that lost their lives.
1586
01:34:27,380 --> 01:34:31,700
People felt freer to talk once
Suge commenced his sentence.
1587
01:34:31,700 --> 01:34:35,500
Many of the people who witnessed
Biggie's killing that night
1588
01:34:35,500 --> 01:34:37,540
have kept a secret for 24 years.
1589
01:34:37,540 --> 01:34:39,780
I didn't want to do interviews
for years.
1590
01:34:39,780 --> 01:34:41,180
It was dangerous.
1591
01:34:41,180 --> 01:34:43,620
It's dangerous to know anything.
1592
01:34:52,620 --> 01:34:55,700
I was there that night Biggie
got killed
1593
01:34:55,700 --> 01:34:59,460
and so were some of the LAPD
officers we talked about.
1594
01:35:01,300 --> 01:35:05,140
I would put money
on LAPD's involvement, you know.
1595
01:35:05,140 --> 01:35:07,420
They're all not
on the force any more
1596
01:35:07,420 --> 01:35:09,140
so I guess it doesn't matter.
1597
01:35:09,140 --> 01:35:14,180
Did you see David Mack
and Perez at the event
1598
01:35:14,180 --> 01:35:16,740
at the... They were all there.
1599
01:35:19,580 --> 01:35:24,580
Yes, they were there. Because the
LAPD now have sort of come up
1600
01:35:24,580 --> 01:35:29,140
with a whole other theory.
Mm. Outside of the police.
1601
01:35:29,140 --> 01:35:32,980
Yeah. I'm sure they did.
What's their theory?
1602
01:35:32,980 --> 01:35:37,260
That a gang member called
Poochie shot and killed Biggie.
1603
01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:41,940
You know, really, it doesn't matter
who pulled the trigger,
1604
01:35:41,940 --> 01:35:45,020
although I wouldn't agree with that,
1605
01:35:45,020 --> 01:35:49,220
but what I would say is any gang
member that was to shoot
1606
01:35:49,220 --> 01:35:52,300
or kill Biggie could have
only done so
1607
01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:55,540
with police involvement
and support.
1608
01:35:55,540 --> 01:35:57,140
It would have been impossible.
1609
01:35:57,140 --> 01:35:59,220
They were everywhere.
1610
01:35:59,220 --> 01:36:02,420
It was... You don't have an event
that's a party
1611
01:36:02,420 --> 01:36:05,500
after the Soul Train Awards
and especially in LA
1612
01:36:05,500 --> 01:36:07,940
and there's that many black people
1613
01:36:07,940 --> 01:36:09,820
and you think the police
aren't everywhere,
1614
01:36:09,820 --> 01:36:12,340
they're everywhere.
Doesn't work that way.
1615
01:36:12,340 --> 01:36:14,420
So there has to be compliance.
1616
01:36:16,620 --> 01:36:19,980
They were, they were complicit
in everything that happened
1617
01:36:19,980 --> 01:36:22,140
that had to do with Death Row.
1618
01:36:23,540 --> 01:36:27,140
I hold the police department
responsible for so much.
1619
01:36:38,380 --> 01:36:40,940
What up? Ready, nigga?
1620
01:36:40,940 --> 01:36:43,060
Ready for that raw dog shit, nigga?
1621
01:36:43,060 --> 01:36:45,100
OK. All right.
1622
01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:48,340
And this is how the heads should
meet. You want to set it off?
1623
01:36:48,340 --> 01:36:50,460
I'm scared to do some freestyle.
1624
01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:53,340
I'm scared to do some
freestyle flow,
1625
01:36:53,340 --> 01:36:56,100
I'm too high and I might
go off tempo,
1626
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:58,820
but now I'm back to let these
niggas know just how deep
1627
01:36:58,820 --> 01:37:01,340
my game run, Tupacalypse
don't sleep.
1628
01:37:01,340 --> 01:37:04,580
I keep a motherfucking Glock in my
car if I'm all in the club,
1629
01:37:04,580 --> 01:37:06,820
I got to be the fucking star...
1630
01:37:06,820 --> 01:37:10,260
Biggie didn't give a fuck,
Tupac didn't give a fuck.
1631
01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:13,100
It's fucked up that the cause
of their deaths
1632
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:15,580
is behind the pettiest shit
on the planet.
1633
01:37:15,580 --> 01:37:18,700
Money holds the clothes, blood smoke
coming out the nose
1634
01:37:18,700 --> 01:37:21,020
is all a nigga knows,
flipping off foes,
1635
01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:23,700
putting tags on toes,
watching the stash grow,
1636
01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:25,340
clocking the cash flow.
1637
01:37:25,340 --> 01:37:26,460
They were buddy buddies.
1638
01:37:26,460 --> 01:37:29,180
They were, they were street buddies.
1639
01:37:29,180 --> 01:37:31,540
At the time of Tupac's death,
1640
01:37:31,540 --> 01:37:35,700
I think they were still buddies,
because when I told my son
1641
01:37:35,700 --> 01:37:39,740
that Tupac died, I could see
the pain in his eyes.
1642
01:37:39,740 --> 01:37:42,780
..drive a fat-ass truck, grab the
nine, two clips and run amok.
1643
01:37:42,780 --> 01:37:45,460
It sometimes brings me to tears
1644
01:37:45,460 --> 01:37:48,060
just thinking about what could
have been.
1645
01:37:48,060 --> 01:37:49,860
Where would we be right now
1646
01:37:49,860 --> 01:37:55,180
if they both were alive. The world
lost someone that could have made
1647
01:37:55,180 --> 01:37:57,140
quite a difference.
1648
01:37:57,140 --> 01:37:58,500
Peace and love.
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