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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,300 Developing news now, former rap mogul Suge Knight 2 00:00:53,300 --> 00:00:55,780 is headed to prison for voluntary manslaughter. 3 00:00:55,780 --> 00:00:58,220 He ran down a man in the parking lot of a Compton burger stand 4 00:00:58,220 --> 00:00:59,460 about three years ago. 5 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:01,700 And today, he found out what his punishment will be. 6 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:04,700 For the crimes which the defendant has been convicted in count one, 7 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:07,700 the defendant's levied a term in state prison of 22 years. 8 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:09,820 The prior conviction the defendant has admitted, 9 00:01:09,820 --> 00:01:12,260 he's levied an additional five years in state prison 10 00:01:12,260 --> 00:01:15,340 for a total unstayed term of 28 years. 11 00:01:15,340 --> 00:01:18,540 Quite a fall for Knight since the height of his career in the '90s. 12 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:22,260 He's best known as the co-founder of Death Row Records and worked 13 00:01:22,260 --> 00:01:25,020 with Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Tupac Shakur. 14 00:01:25,020 --> 00:01:28,060 And back here live, Sharon, he did look briefly at... 15 00:01:28,060 --> 00:01:31,380 Suge Knight's sentencing for 28 years signalled the end 16 00:01:31,380 --> 00:01:33,740 of his power, the end of his empire. 17 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:47,460 People now no longer as intimidated since Suge's incarceration 18 00:01:47,460 --> 00:01:50,820 started talking more freely about Suge being the shadow 19 00:01:50,820 --> 00:01:53,860 behind Biggie Smalls and Tupac Shakur's murders. 20 00:01:53,860 --> 00:01:56,100 Tell Frankie to call me. LAUGHTER 21 00:01:56,100 --> 00:01:59,060 Frankie, you call me when she tells you to call me, Frankie. 22 00:01:59,060 --> 00:02:02,780 Why, what's...? Frankie Goes to Hollywood! 23 00:02:02,780 --> 00:02:04,220 Ay, yo, Frankie. 24 00:02:04,220 --> 00:02:06,660 Frankie! Yo, Frankie! 25 00:02:06,660 --> 00:02:09,100 CHEERING 26 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:11,340 It caused me to review an earlier film I'd made 27 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:13,740 about Biggie and Tupac. 28 00:02:13,740 --> 00:02:17,140 People were now opening up to things I couldn't get answered before. 29 00:02:19,860 --> 00:02:23,300 Biggie and Tupac started off as the best of friends. 30 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:27,300 Tupac was the one who discovered Biggie and brought him out on stage. 31 00:02:29,820 --> 00:02:33,340 And if you look very closely, you'll see the rarest of footage 32 00:02:33,340 --> 00:02:37,700 of Biggie and Tupac hugging on the edge of stage. 33 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:40,100 But, partly because of Suge's influence, 34 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:42,340 they ended up as deadly enemies, 35 00:02:42,340 --> 00:02:45,380 the victims of a gang war that Suge had initiated. 36 00:02:46,660 --> 00:02:49,380 It was LAPD Detective Russell Poole... 37 00:02:49,380 --> 00:02:50,900 Hey. Hello, hello! 38 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:53,980 ..who originally alleged the connection between Suge Knight and 39 00:02:53,980 --> 00:02:55,700 the murders of Biggie and Tupac. 40 00:02:55,700 --> 00:03:00,380 Well, like I say, based on the witnesses that I've interviewed 41 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:02,500 and the evidence, 42 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:04,380 I believe that, you know, 43 00:03:04,380 --> 00:03:07,420 Suge Knight ultimately called for the hit. 44 00:03:07,420 --> 00:03:10,020 And you said Police Chief Bernard Parks stopped you 45 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:12,300 from investigating further, 46 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:15,940 because LAPD police officers were involved with Suge Knight? 47 00:03:15,940 --> 00:03:18,940 Oh, that's correct. Yes, he was... 48 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:24,820 You know, it's several factors... on why he didn't want this pursued 49 00:03:24,820 --> 00:03:26,900 to the fullest extent. 50 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:32,380 And one being the fact that his own officers were involved. 51 00:03:32,380 --> 00:03:36,860 At the time, Police Chief Bernard Parks dismissed these allegations. 52 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:38,260 He is totally wrong. 53 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:41,500 He only worked the task force for about four months. 54 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:46,620 Russell Poole resigned, asserting massive corruption in the LAPD. 55 00:03:46,620 --> 00:03:49,660 Tonight, shocking allegations against the city's top cop. 56 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:53,100 Former detective Russell Poole has filed suit against the department. 57 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:56,140 Poole says he uncovered dirty cops while investigating the murders 58 00:03:56,140 --> 00:03:58,580 of rappers and Biggie Smalls and Tupac Shakur. 59 00:03:58,580 --> 00:04:00,820 I provided the chief with enough... 60 00:04:00,820 --> 00:04:03,260 Russell died tragically a few years later, 61 00:04:03,260 --> 00:04:06,540 his career in tatters, the murders still unsolved. 62 00:04:06,540 --> 00:04:10,140 His work is asserting dirty cops and corruption in the LAPD is 63 00:04:10,140 --> 00:04:12,380 as relevant today as it was then. 64 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:16,060 I am telling you right now! Book him up. 65 00:04:16,060 --> 00:04:17,660 Book him up, you're under arrest. 66 00:04:17,660 --> 00:04:19,660 You're under arrest for interfering. 67 00:04:30,860 --> 00:04:32,340 BICYCLE BELL RINGS 68 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:52,780 INDISTINCT SHOUTING 69 00:05:01,940 --> 00:05:05,380 GUNSHOTS 70 00:05:15,780 --> 00:05:19,180 Back in the 1990s, Death Row was the most successful rap label ever, 71 00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:21,980 worth hundreds of millions of dollars. 72 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:26,780 Yet by 2002, with allegations of racketeering, 73 00:05:26,780 --> 00:05:30,180 it is closed down by a SWAT team and goes into bankruptcy. 74 00:05:32,420 --> 00:05:36,460 Death Row Records was in a very elegant part of Westwood, 75 00:05:36,460 --> 00:05:38,220 in Los Angeles. 76 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:42,500 It was a really big office, 77 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:46,260 and it was located across the hall from Interscope Records. 78 00:05:47,660 --> 00:05:51,940 When you first walked into Death Row Records, 79 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:57,620 ..you got a vibe that it was a family kind of thing going on. 80 00:05:57,620 --> 00:06:01,100 That everybody cared about everybody. 81 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:04,460 So, you kind of got food right off the bat. 82 00:06:04,460 --> 00:06:09,740 Now, what I did notice the very first time was that 83 00:06:09,740 --> 00:06:12,260 there was always a lot of guys - 84 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:15,500 when I say "a lot of guys", I mean, they would be lined up 85 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:17,540 sitting in the hallway, chillin'. 86 00:06:17,540 --> 00:06:19,740 You didn't know why they were there. 87 00:06:19,740 --> 00:06:22,780 I don't even think they knew why they were there, you know? 88 00:06:22,780 --> 00:06:26,420 But Suge did give a lot of jobs to the guys and his 89 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:28,700 gang member affiliation people. 90 00:06:30,460 --> 00:06:33,820 It was funny, they always had on red. 91 00:06:33,820 --> 00:06:36,820 Everybody that was everybody had on red. 92 00:06:36,820 --> 00:06:39,060 And Snoop and them always wore their blue. 93 00:06:39,060 --> 00:06:40,900 They never got off their Crip. 94 00:06:42,820 --> 00:06:45,580 Used to come to the office, right? 95 00:06:45,580 --> 00:06:48,820 And there'd be a gang of dudes up there, Bloods - 96 00:06:48,820 --> 00:06:51,700 I can always tell they Bloods, right? 97 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:55,460 Smoking...Newports. 98 00:06:55,460 --> 00:06:57,940 Where they'd pop the thing off. 99 00:06:57,940 --> 00:06:59,940 Or the Camels, right? 100 00:06:59,940 --> 00:07:03,620 They popped the head off the Newport, right? 101 00:07:03,620 --> 00:07:07,140 And you could tell that they'd just been in the penitentiary for 102 00:07:07,140 --> 00:07:10,900 a long time, cos they was just so used to sitting down, smoking weed 103 00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:14,620 or cigarettes, right, talking shit. 104 00:07:14,620 --> 00:07:17,660 And then, it'd be like new crews of cats you could tell 105 00:07:17,660 --> 00:07:19,500 fresh out the pen, 106 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:22,060 come up there to get a job. 107 00:07:22,060 --> 00:07:25,340 First, they're going to ask you, "Where you from"? 108 00:07:25,340 --> 00:07:30,260 And you did not say you were from an enemy gang territory. 109 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:33,940 Or they're going to say... you'll have to run it. 110 00:07:33,940 --> 00:07:36,540 You see what I'm saying? You know what I mean "run it"? 111 00:07:36,540 --> 00:07:38,220 They'll want to fight. 112 00:07:45,140 --> 00:07:47,660 RADIO CHATTER 113 00:07:56,020 --> 00:07:59,300 They come from a good, tight-knit family. Really, really close. 114 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:02,340 Everyone loves each other, everyone thinks with one brain. 115 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:05,180 Parents were still together, and just, you know, 116 00:08:05,180 --> 00:08:07,580 just like a regular family. 117 00:08:07,580 --> 00:08:10,660 Uncle Suge was the baby, so he got he got away with everything. 118 00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:13,740 So, he's spoiled, he's the baby. 119 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:15,500 He... SHE LAUGHS 120 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:18,780 He would call my mum and ask for certain, you know, 121 00:08:18,780 --> 00:08:20,420 his potato salad a certain way. 122 00:08:20,420 --> 00:08:23,460 He wants chicken his certain way. 123 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:25,100 It was, you know... 124 00:08:25,100 --> 00:08:27,900 And if anybody touches his chicken, his potato salad, he's angry. 125 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:30,580 You know, he wants his food a certain way, he wants it... 126 00:08:30,580 --> 00:08:32,420 I mean, he's the baby. 127 00:08:32,420 --> 00:08:36,300 So...and everybody loves him and they spoil him, especially my mum. 128 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:40,740 So, whatever he says, it's, "OK, Suge. OK, Li'l Suge. OK." 129 00:08:40,740 --> 00:08:43,980 So, he's, you know... he's the baby, 130 00:08:43,980 --> 00:08:46,340 so he gets whatever he wants. 131 00:08:46,340 --> 00:08:48,340 The happy Mother's Day from OFTB, 132 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:49,980 and all the other mothers out there. 133 00:08:49,980 --> 00:08:51,660 Stay strong. 134 00:08:51,660 --> 00:08:52,980 Stay up. 135 00:08:52,980 --> 00:08:55,740 There is also another side to Suge. 136 00:08:55,740 --> 00:08:58,420 He initially gave hope to the Compton community, 137 00:08:58,420 --> 00:09:01,420 which had the highest unemployment in LA. 138 00:09:01,420 --> 00:09:03,340 He also gave back to the community. 139 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,340 HE VOCALISES 140 00:09:36,860 --> 00:09:38,020 CHEERING 141 00:09:38,020 --> 00:09:40,860 Suge gave encouragement to artists like Danny Boy, 142 00:09:40,860 --> 00:09:42,780 whom he adopted as legal guardian, 143 00:09:42,780 --> 00:09:45,500 aged 15, and acted as a father. 144 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:47,460 Yes, he was, for sure. 145 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:51,220 For sure. Definitely like a father, like a big brother. 146 00:09:51,220 --> 00:09:55,020 A lot of things that people seen in Suge, or a lot of things 147 00:09:55,020 --> 00:10:01,340 that people said about Suge, you know, some of those things, I... 148 00:10:01,340 --> 00:10:03,780 You know, I didn't see him as that, you know what I mean? 149 00:10:03,780 --> 00:10:06,460 Because, you know, I had a real relationship with him where 150 00:10:06,460 --> 00:10:10,220 I was able - I felt like I was able to talk to him and say things 151 00:10:10,220 --> 00:10:12,140 that I would say to a father. 152 00:10:12,140 --> 00:10:13,340 Yeah, so... 153 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:20,260 Suge lived in Compton, near Pam Brooks, an old friend of mine, 154 00:10:20,260 --> 00:10:22,660 and who am I asked to work on the film. 155 00:10:22,660 --> 00:10:23,660 Hi there! 156 00:10:23,660 --> 00:10:24,940 Pam knows everyone. 157 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:27,580 Hi. Tell me what you know about Suge Knight. 158 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:29,380 All right. What else you need to know? 159 00:10:29,380 --> 00:10:31,820 Suge Knight was on that side. 160 00:10:31,820 --> 00:10:33,700 This is the Crip neighbourhood. 161 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:37,300 Suge Knight is over here... all the way down. 162 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:39,180 Do you know some of his homies? 163 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:41,780 Yeah, I'm going to get you and let you talk to 'em. 164 00:10:41,780 --> 00:10:45,260 Yeah. I mean - and if they don't want to talk or be on camera, 165 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:47,620 can they just...I need to - they don't have to be on camera 166 00:10:47,620 --> 00:10:49,340 if they don't want to be on camera. 167 00:10:49,340 --> 00:10:52,700 Just, I need it - would they mind if they record their voice? 168 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:56,620 Just... 169 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:02,860 All right. Call me and let me... 170 00:11:02,860 --> 00:11:06,860 Just call me and let me know, and then, erm...let me know. 171 00:11:06,860 --> 00:11:09,420 And I don't know, these are England - 172 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:11,260 they white people, they white, but they Black. 173 00:11:11,260 --> 00:11:12,860 But, I mean, they from England. 174 00:11:12,860 --> 00:11:14,300 I mean... All right. 175 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:16,740 No...you know, we straight up. 176 00:11:22,780 --> 00:11:25,220 They're from England. Remember, they're crazy. 177 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:30,140 This is the first time Lipp Dogg speaks about 178 00:11:30,140 --> 00:11:31,900 working for Suge Knight. 179 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:35,620 And so, before you worked at Death Row, you were...? 180 00:11:35,620 --> 00:11:37,780 I was in prison. 181 00:11:37,780 --> 00:11:39,260 For attempted murder. 182 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:43,540 And so, Suge offered you a job. Right. 183 00:11:45,820 --> 00:11:47,300 INAUDIBLE 184 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:49,300 How did that happen? 185 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:54,300 Well, when I came home, one of my associates took me 186 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:57,140 to where Suge was at, Suge was about to go out of town. 187 00:11:57,140 --> 00:12:02,260 And before he boarded a plane, me and him, you know, hooked up. 188 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:04,380 Cos I know Suge prior from then. 189 00:12:04,380 --> 00:12:07,700 I know Suge ever since the early '70s, cos we grew up 190 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:09,540 five houses from each other. 191 00:12:09,540 --> 00:12:11,140 So, you know, he knew me. 192 00:12:12,380 --> 00:12:13,780 Suge couldn't even play with us. 193 00:12:13,780 --> 00:12:16,020 His mother wouldn't let him play with us. 194 00:12:16,020 --> 00:12:18,380 Cos we were... 195 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:20,660 ..the thugs in the neighbourhood. 196 00:12:20,660 --> 00:12:22,780 And she had a goal for Suge. 197 00:12:22,780 --> 00:12:24,580 And that was for him to play sports. 198 00:12:24,580 --> 00:12:26,180 WHISTLE BLOWS 199 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:29,020 # I'm Marion Knight 200 00:12:29,020 --> 00:12:30,980 # With the wavy hair 201 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:34,420 # I'm quick and fast, and always there 202 00:12:34,420 --> 00:12:36,060 # I'll take on any O-lineman 203 00:12:36,060 --> 00:12:37,980 # Without no scares 204 00:12:37,980 --> 00:12:40,020 ALL: # That's why they call him 205 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:41,620 # The Sugar Bear! 206 00:12:42,740 --> 00:12:44,300 Marion Knight, number 54... 207 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:47,980 Suge went to college, and, you know, he had good parents. 208 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:50,260 He had both his mother and father 209 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:53,820 that kept him away from the whole gang violence shit 210 00:12:53,820 --> 00:12:55,900 that we was doing. 211 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:58,940 Sometimes they'd think, and he'd think that that's hard. 212 00:12:58,940 --> 00:13:02,820 "You took away from me" - no, she gave you a better life. 213 00:13:02,820 --> 00:13:07,660 Being in office was just like... conducting business on the street. 214 00:13:07,660 --> 00:13:10,220 Motherfucker got in the way, motherfucker got dealt with. 215 00:13:10,220 --> 00:13:13,940 If you thought you was going to create a problem, 216 00:13:13,940 --> 00:13:15,340 you had a problem. 217 00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:18,580 You'd find yourself tossed upside down. 218 00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:22,580 One thing people knew about Death Row is they weren't bullshitting, 219 00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:24,300 and they would whoop your ass. 220 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:26,340 With no questions asked. 221 00:13:26,340 --> 00:13:32,420 If you stepped on the red rug, if you answered the phone, 222 00:13:32,420 --> 00:13:35,940 if you parked in somebody's spot, you gon' get your ass whooped. 223 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:38,260 Some people died. 224 00:13:38,260 --> 00:13:42,140 Some people just got beat up, you know? 225 00:13:43,260 --> 00:13:46,580 A few people got rat-packed. 226 00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:49,660 You know, like I say, people got disciplined, you know, 227 00:13:49,660 --> 00:13:51,500 if they got in the way, or... 228 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:54,140 Cos Death Row was on a mission. 229 00:13:54,140 --> 00:13:56,380 You couldn't stand on the logo. 230 00:13:56,380 --> 00:13:58,260 The Death Row logo. 231 00:13:58,260 --> 00:14:02,300 Stood on that logo, and you probably gon' get knocked down. 232 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:04,500 Ain't no telling who would knock you out, 233 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:06,820 but you probably got knocked out. 234 00:14:06,820 --> 00:14:09,980 You had a dog, Damu, Suge's German Shepherd. 235 00:14:09,980 --> 00:14:11,820 His name was Damu. 236 00:14:11,820 --> 00:14:13,860 It meant "blood". Yeah. 237 00:14:13,860 --> 00:14:16,380 The dog would attack you. 238 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:18,540 Yeah, he was trained. 239 00:14:18,540 --> 00:14:21,180 Cos he'd think... the dog's thinking you trying 240 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:23,420 to get next to him, next to Suge. 241 00:14:23,420 --> 00:14:25,140 And if you're trying to get next to Shug, 242 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:26,660 that dog was going to attack you. 243 00:14:26,660 --> 00:14:28,220 Yeah. 244 00:14:28,220 --> 00:14:30,700 And is it true he had, like, piranha fish? 245 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:32,940 Yeah. Yeah, he had... 246 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:36,980 He had a black tank built into the wall in his office, 247 00:14:36,980 --> 00:14:38,660 and it was dark. 248 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:40,100 It was black piranhas. 249 00:14:41,660 --> 00:14:43,340 We used to feed 'em blood worms, 250 00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:45,940 used to buy a big pack of blood worms, 251 00:14:45,940 --> 00:14:48,980 and put them in there... and they'd just go crazy. 252 00:14:50,780 --> 00:14:51,860 Yeah. 253 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:55,700 You know, and he... 254 00:14:55,700 --> 00:15:00,820 He'd look at...tank, and look at you... 255 00:15:02,620 --> 00:15:05,660 Then, you know, people was calm. 256 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:25,180 They were gang-bangers. 257 00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:29,300 They were gang-bangers, and they worked for Suge Knight, 258 00:15:29,300 --> 00:15:32,060 So, they was like Suge Knight's boy. 259 00:15:32,060 --> 00:15:33,580 So, I believe - 260 00:15:33,580 --> 00:15:36,420 my belief of it is they did what Suge told them to do, 261 00:15:36,420 --> 00:15:38,140 because they was broke, and... 262 00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:41,820 They couldn't get a job because they was already marked as gang-bangers, 263 00:15:41,820 --> 00:15:44,220 so they took that ride with Suge Knight. 264 00:15:44,220 --> 00:15:47,940 And they accepted that thousand - for a person who never had... 265 00:15:47,940 --> 00:15:51,180 For a person they don't have nothing, $1,000 is good, a day. 266 00:15:51,180 --> 00:15:55,380 $1,000 a day? To do some dirty shit to the next motherfucker? 267 00:15:55,380 --> 00:15:58,700 "Go over here and drop this car off, or go here and drop this bag off"? 268 00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:00,300 And you don't know what's in the bag? 269 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:02,540 But nine out of ten, you know what's in the bag, 270 00:16:02,540 --> 00:16:04,740 because you're not going to fuck with nobody. 271 00:16:04,740 --> 00:16:07,820 You know, you're not going to put yourself in a situation where 272 00:16:07,820 --> 00:16:10,260 you don't know if it's a dead body in a trunk or not. 273 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:11,540 Some people do. 274 00:16:11,540 --> 00:16:14,580 Some motherfuckers don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying? 275 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:17,740 Cos they'd be so desperate for this money. 276 00:16:17,740 --> 00:16:21,820 Inflicting pain on people was like my medicine. 277 00:16:21,820 --> 00:16:24,060 It was...I felt good. 278 00:16:24,060 --> 00:16:26,700 I truly feel good about it. 279 00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:29,660 I took pleasure...into it. 280 00:16:29,660 --> 00:16:34,020 OK, I mean, just seeing the blood, 281 00:16:34,020 --> 00:16:38,660 how it came out your nose, how it came out your ears. 282 00:16:38,660 --> 00:16:41,340 You...you don't want to die. 283 00:16:41,340 --> 00:16:42,940 You don't want to die. 284 00:16:42,940 --> 00:16:46,180 These cats don't give a fuck if they do die. 285 00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:47,820 And I mean that like that. 286 00:16:47,820 --> 00:16:51,260 I'm not putting them on nothing, but these cats don't care, 287 00:16:51,260 --> 00:16:53,220 you know what I'm saying? 288 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:54,540 We lose homies in prison, 289 00:16:54,540 --> 00:16:57,340 we lose homies on the street on the daily. 290 00:16:57,340 --> 00:16:59,620 We done seen death. 291 00:16:59,620 --> 00:17:03,100 We done seen it - I held it, you know what I'm saying? 292 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:06,580 I watched my homeboy, Kenny, take his last breath. 293 00:17:06,580 --> 00:17:09,340 Like, wow. 294 00:17:09,340 --> 00:17:11,900 Mob James recruited gang members for Suge, 295 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:15,100 including Bountry, his younger brother. 296 00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:20,180 Tupac would rap about Bountry, who would later be murdered. 297 00:17:20,180 --> 00:17:26,380 Suge utilised each and every guy that I brung to him. 298 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:29,340 Instead of him being the businessman he should've been, 299 00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:32,660 he turned into one of the homies. 300 00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:37,340 Shit. Suge put on red suit, the big rings, the cigars, 301 00:17:37,340 --> 00:17:39,220 and he just changed. 302 00:17:39,220 --> 00:17:46,740 He went from Miriam... to this gangster. 303 00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:49,820 And I say... 304 00:17:49,820 --> 00:17:55,100 ..some men can't take power like that, and just know that 305 00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:57,500 they have all that power, and be good. 306 00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:58,900 Suge took that power. 307 00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:00,540 He felt the energy. 308 00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:01,900 He felt like... 309 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:03,980 Let's say you're goin' to a concert, 310 00:18:03,980 --> 00:18:06,020 and you got 20 Bloods behind you. 311 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:07,780 I'm the smallest one. 312 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:12,060 Everybody else is... I'm talking about, like, big. 313 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:14,580 And everybody's mentality is, 314 00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:19,420 "If anybody say something to Suge, knock their fucking head off". 315 00:18:19,420 --> 00:18:23,100 And all of these famous people was looking and 316 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,180 seeing Suge's entourage, 317 00:18:25,180 --> 00:18:27,780 and it was like he was Jesus. 318 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:30,380 Everybody just start partying away. 319 00:18:30,380 --> 00:18:33,500 And we would walk through that crowd. And Suge... 320 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:35,340 HE CHUCKLES 321 00:18:35,340 --> 00:18:36,900 He felt it,. 322 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:38,580 But it was just too much for him. 323 00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:40,580 At the end of the day, it was too much. 324 00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:44,220 Put your hands together and say, "Oh, yeah!" 325 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:45,820 CROWD: Oh, yeah! 326 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:49,540 Let me see somebody get Dre, Suge, the D.O.C. A round of applause. 327 00:18:49,540 --> 00:18:53,700 Death Row Records is going to be the record company of the 2000s. 328 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:57,220 Death Row had the money to throw the most lavish celebrity parties 329 00:18:57,220 --> 00:18:58,420 in Beverly Hills. 330 00:19:00,260 --> 00:19:04,340 The Label started with Dr Dre was going to do his own thing, 331 00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:06,580 and with a lot of help from Suge Knight... 332 00:19:06,580 --> 00:19:09,900 David Kenner - seen here - and Suge Knight ran Death Row. 333 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:13,660 According to employees, they did whatever they wanted. 334 00:19:13,660 --> 00:19:17,100 Beverley Brolis, front centre. 335 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:18,580 CHEERING 336 00:19:18,580 --> 00:19:22,740 He had huge houses, he had lots of cars, he could come to work every 337 00:19:22,740 --> 00:19:27,300 day in a different car for a month and never drive the same car. 338 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:30,620 Really. 339 00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:35,420 To be honest, Suge was just two-faced, he was two-faced 340 00:19:35,420 --> 00:19:39,140 and he really wasn't a man of his word. 341 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:44,380 And I'm telling you, that day that he set me up to be beat up, 342 00:19:44,380 --> 00:19:48,780 I never thought... I had no inkling that that was going 343 00:19:48,780 --> 00:19:50,100 to happen that day. 344 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,060 He had planned that whole thing all weekend. 345 00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:53,180 He was ready. 346 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:58,180 He had one of his girlfriends bring the girl up to the office, 347 00:19:58,180 --> 00:20:01,260 they snuck her through the back door. The girl that jumped on me, 348 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:05,020 she was dropped off by a girl that was one of his girlfriends. 349 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:08,940 This girl came out of nowhere and she sucker punched me, 350 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:13,620 stomping me in my face, and Suge had me by my feet. 351 00:20:13,620 --> 00:20:15,700 And David Kenner just stood and watched. 352 00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:17,660 And what did Suge say? 353 00:20:17,660 --> 00:20:19,500 He was holding my feet. 354 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:22,340 So then when I kicked him in his nuts, that's when I got 355 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:24,580 familiar with the back door. 356 00:20:24,580 --> 00:20:27,860 So when I ran out the back door and I ran over to Interscope, 357 00:20:27,860 --> 00:20:31,900 they must've knew something was happening because they locked 358 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:34,540 the door so you couldn't go in. 359 00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:35,940 You know, they treated women... 360 00:20:35,940 --> 00:20:38,500 I mean, they would have fights in there, girl fights 361 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:41,980 in the offices where they would put the assistants against other women 362 00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:45,060 and, like, literal girl fights where they went... 363 00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:47,740 Like, in the middle of the floor where they... 364 00:20:47,740 --> 00:20:51,180 Like, it was like...boxing matches where women would fight. 365 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:52,780 And I just... I never saw the fights. 366 00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:55,380 They would just tell me about them, Dre told me about them. 367 00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:58,860 And I was like, "Who does that in the offices of the whatever. 368 00:20:58,860 --> 00:21:01,140 And so that's how little they thought of women. 369 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:04,980 And so I... I never... I just never understood it. 370 00:21:04,980 --> 00:21:07,660 I just... They just thought women were second class citizens. 371 00:21:07,660 --> 00:21:11,140 They were just literally there for their amusement, 372 00:21:11,140 --> 00:21:14,860 entertainment and enjoyment, nothing else. 373 00:21:14,860 --> 00:21:15,940 And if you... 374 00:21:16,940 --> 00:21:20,620 ..dated one of them, you understood that was your place. 375 00:21:20,620 --> 00:21:22,500 What about DJ Quik? 376 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:24,700 No. 377 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:29,180 It was an insult to me. Hm?. 378 00:21:29,180 --> 00:21:32,220 No. So they're stealing a life. 379 00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:37,300 This car Jacuzzi that he got going on. 380 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:41,820 Pam showed me some useful tips I hadn't learned at film school. 381 00:21:41,820 --> 00:21:44,540 Pam is friends with Joe Cool, Snoop's cousin, 382 00:21:44,540 --> 00:21:46,300 who had been hard to get. 383 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:49,460 Oh, yeah. I got a good plot going on in my head. 384 00:21:49,460 --> 00:21:52,900 A good plan? Plot. You gotta plot. 385 00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:55,140 You gotta plot with motherfuckers like this. 386 00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:58,140 You want to play hardball, let's play. 387 00:21:58,140 --> 00:22:00,380 So what's your plot for tomorrow? 388 00:22:00,380 --> 00:22:03,060 Well, I'll go get... Get rid of her. 389 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:05,580 Go get... Go get my friend. 390 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:07,780 And then go out there, 391 00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:11,700 get some weed and smoke it, go out there and, you know, 392 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:14,020 rub my tittles against him because he likes me. 393 00:22:14,020 --> 00:22:15,260 I just got to play the game. 394 00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:20,380 Pam and Joe Cool go way back. 395 00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:23,100 He's a Crip and worked with Snoop, his cousin. 396 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:26,100 At Death Row there's an uneasy alliance between Blood and Crip 397 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:27,860 gang members. 398 00:22:27,860 --> 00:22:30,860 Suge is a Blood, Snoop and Joe Cool are Crips. 399 00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:35,180 These dudes that Suge had were known Crip killers, 400 00:22:35,180 --> 00:22:37,780 real rough motherfuckers, ex-smokers, 401 00:22:37,780 --> 00:22:39,900 you know what I'm saying? 402 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:44,140 Ex-cons, fresh out the penitentiary motherfuckers. 403 00:22:44,140 --> 00:22:46,820 They did not play. They overdid they job. 404 00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:50,620 And they robbed and they stole, they pillaged and they plundered. 405 00:22:50,620 --> 00:22:52,020 And I've seen them do it. 406 00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:53,660 One of they favourite things was this, 407 00:22:53,660 --> 00:22:56,500 as far as them being security, for Suge, they favourite thing 408 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:57,820 would be to do this . 409 00:22:57,820 --> 00:22:59,420 Suge's boys, they were thieves, 410 00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:01,900 robbers, murderers, rapists. 411 00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:04,700 Let me tell you, it was Compton's worst. 412 00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:06,140 And so what he would do is... 413 00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:08,700 What they would do is, "He got a gun!" 414 00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:13,780 Might be a guy with a big chain, right, big old chain 415 00:23:13,780 --> 00:23:17,820 or gang jewellery on, and they'll point him out like, 416 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:19,260 "Oh, he got a gun!" 417 00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:22,300 Next thing I know, everybody jumps on this dude. 418 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:23,740 When the dude come up, 419 00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:26,820 he ain't got no jewellery, no wallet, 420 00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:29,620 might not...might be missing a few teeth, 421 00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:31,620 you know what I'm saying? Disorientated. 422 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:35,300 And just left there in a bloody mess, and they would do 423 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:36,540 that all the time. 424 00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:46,500 It was drugs up there. 425 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,740 It was, you know, drug dealing. 426 00:23:50,740 --> 00:23:54,700 It was, like, multiple suitcases with powdered cocaine 427 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:59,060 or re-rocked cocaine up in there, there's a lot I've seen. 428 00:23:59,060 --> 00:24:01,420 I've seen things and I've been handed things, 429 00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:02,740 you know? 430 00:24:05,580 --> 00:24:08,180 Russell Poole had said this years before. 431 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:12,700 He alleged that dirty cops were an essential part of Death Row. 432 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:16,980 It was no secret that Death Row Records was involved 433 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:18,580 in drug trafficking. 434 00:24:18,580 --> 00:24:23,660 The big piece of this is the fact that we had police officers working 435 00:24:23,660 --> 00:24:26,020 in the organisation and police officers 436 00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:27,940 on different levels, you know? 437 00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:31,900 there was actual security guards that were actually doing 438 00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:34,100 security for various artists. 439 00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:40,100 And then you had, like, these confidants, which I believe Gaines 440 00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:44,580 and Mack and Perez were part of that crew. 441 00:24:44,580 --> 00:24:48,820 They were willing to do anything for Suge Knight. 442 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:50,700 COMMENTATOR: 102 is Dave Mack of America. 443 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:53,900 David Mack, in blue, before he became a police officer, 444 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:56,140 was a world-class athlete. 445 00:24:58,380 --> 00:25:00,620 By complete chance Tupac's manager 446 00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:02,100 helped train him. 447 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,420 Leila has avoided talking about David Mack 448 00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:06,580 for the past 24 years. 449 00:25:06,580 --> 00:25:10,980 I was working with Olympic track and field athletes in the early '80s. 450 00:25:10,980 --> 00:25:16,460 So David Mack, who ended up being the cop that was entangled 451 00:25:16,460 --> 00:25:19,540 with Suge and everything, he was one of the athletes 452 00:25:19,540 --> 00:25:25,420 on the team. I worked on David Mack in 82, 83, 84, 453 00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:27,060 the Olympics were in 1984. 454 00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:30,260 But I knew David very well because we worked together for years 455 00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:33,340 before he was an officer, so... 456 00:25:33,340 --> 00:25:38,420 ..I can't speak to all the things that went on and what they did, 457 00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:42,180 all I can tell you is you cannot run a criminal enterprise 458 00:25:42,180 --> 00:25:45,500 at that magnitude without... 459 00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:52,180 ..a certain level of compliance with the police department. 460 00:25:56,060 --> 00:25:59,300 It was David Mack who introduced fellow LAPD officer 461 00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:01,180 Rafael Perez to Suge Knight. 462 00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:04,980 Perez actively dealt in narcotics. 463 00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,460 The police did this by controlling the street gangs. 464 00:26:08,460 --> 00:26:12,740 And he ran from us and discarded the narcotics in the gutter. 465 00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:14,540 It was no big deal to us. 466 00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:17,140 We'll just put the dope on you, we know you had it. 467 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:21,500 Here, Perez confesses to stealing over $1 million of cocaine 468 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:22,940 from the LAPD evidence locker. 469 00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:24,900 Having violated several vows and oaths... 470 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:29,940 He implicates a further 70 other police officers in crimes ranging 471 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:33,180 from murder, beatings, trafficking, narcotics, 472 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:37,300 filing false police reports and lying on the witness stand. 473 00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:42,380 This is Police Chief Bernard Parks. 474 00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:44,540 the city of LA ended up paying 475 00:26:44,540 --> 00:26:47,860 an estimated 125 million in settlement claims. 476 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:53,540 Do you think Chief Parks tried to influence the investigation 477 00:26:53,540 --> 00:26:55,460 into David Mack and Perez? 478 00:26:56,820 --> 00:26:59,860 Well, the evidence that was presented to us... 479 00:27:01,580 --> 00:27:05,980 ..clearly showed that there were attempts at the highest levels 480 00:27:05,980 --> 00:27:09,420 of the department to make things disappear. 481 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:12,460 I will say that he did way beyond what anybody 482 00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:14,740 would have expected of a chief of police, 483 00:27:14,740 --> 00:27:16,940 way beyond. 484 00:27:16,940 --> 00:27:20,300 There's strong evidence that Rafael Perez, Nino Durden 485 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:22,820 and David Mack, seen here in Blood colours, 486 00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:24,860 as well as being police officers, 487 00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:28,380 were members of the Mob Piru Blood gang, as was Suge Knight. 488 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:31,540 They and other members of the police department controlled 489 00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:34,100 the streets with a reign of terror. 490 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:58,180 Behind your back! 491 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:00,780 Lie down! 492 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,820 The streets are controlled by the biggest gang 493 00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:05,060 that we have, and that's the police. 494 00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:07,660 And those gang members, many of whom 495 00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:11,780 didn't end up serving on the streets, they became officers. 496 00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:15,220 What are the requirements to become a police officer? 497 00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:20,700 Not a whole lot. The corrupt police are facilitating 498 00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:22,740 the distribution of drugs. 499 00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:29,420 There's no way in the world you can have the mass amount of drugs 500 00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:33,940 if not for police allowing stuff to come in. 501 00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:39,820 And into this messy and volatile situation of gangs, violence 502 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:43,780 and corrupt police came Tupac Shakur, who had himself just come 503 00:28:43,780 --> 00:28:46,700 out of prison on assault charges and would fuel the fire 504 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,340 of Death Row even more. 505 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:51,780 Tupac would be dead within 11 months. 506 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:04,180 This is Tupac with his producer, Tracy Robinson, who says that none 507 00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:05,820 of it needed to go the way it did. 508 00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:08,340 When I went to visit him in Dannemora, 509 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:12,780 I think he would not have gone to Death Row if Interscope 510 00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:14,300 had just stepped up. 511 00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:16,580 Anyone from... 512 00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,740 ..probably, Interscope could have got him out of jail. 513 00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:23,500 You know? Tom Whalley could have got him out of jail 514 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,500 Jimmy Iovine could have got him out of jail. 515 00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:27,940 He was on their label, Interscope. 516 00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:31,380 So Death Row's a subsidiary.... 517 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:35,300 ..as you know, of Interscope, 518 00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:39,260 and if Interscope people had got him out of jail, 519 00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:43,500 it would be a whole different scenario, but instead 520 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:47,660 he's stuck in a situation with some people who are gang people. 521 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:49,500 What did you think of Suge? 522 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:53,300 I don't Suge, so I can't speak on his behalf at all. 523 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,780 You know, I don't know him. 524 00:29:56,820 --> 00:30:03,300 And I just know the energy that I've got from him from the time 525 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:07,460 that I had to deal with him. It's not pleasant. It's just not. 526 00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:11,820 And, you know, it's not pleasant for me to have to even talk about, 527 00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:15,020 because he's alive. His downline is alive. 528 00:30:15,020 --> 00:30:16,460 You know, his people are alive. 529 00:30:16,460 --> 00:30:18,540 You know, these people are revengeful. 530 00:30:18,540 --> 00:30:21,500 This is kind of stuff I'm just saying to you right now, like, 531 00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,860 I wouldn't even want this on tape because, 532 00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:27,060 like, I live here, I'm alive. Like I said, I'm alive, I'm walking. 533 00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:30,580 People still get shot for no fucking reason, you know what I mean? 534 00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:32,180 Like, it's... 535 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:35,300 The gang shit, it's ridiculous. 536 00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,380 It's ridiculous. 537 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,300 What's up, Hammer? 538 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,020 He took it very hard. 539 00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:47,140 He felt more of an impending doom, 540 00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:49,980 having signed with Death Row, 541 00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:51,900 because even while he was in jail, 542 00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:53,340 people were telling him 543 00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:55,100 not to sign with Death Row. 544 00:30:58,340 --> 00:31:02,380 Yaasmyn Fula raised Tupac, but rarely speaks. 545 00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:05,620 She knew Tupac better than anyone. 546 00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:07,780 Here she is, visiting Tupac in prison. 547 00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,860 Having just been released from prison, 548 00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:15,980 and now he's signed with Death Row records, 549 00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:20,300 he had to continue to bask in this being part 550 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:23,900 of that gangster element, when he really wasn't. 551 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,100 Tupac was not a gangster. 552 00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:30,420 That had a very negative effect on the positive things 553 00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:32,460 he was trying to accomplish. You know, here you are, 554 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:36,060 you're a gangster or you're relishing in this persona 555 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:37,500 of being a gangster. 556 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:42,220 You're associating with people throwing up gang signs, making music 557 00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:45,380 that glorifies the gangster ethic, 558 00:31:45,380 --> 00:31:48,660 you know, and debases women, you know. 559 00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:51,420 So, there were so many contradictions that 560 00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:54,260 he had to overcome before he could even achieve 561 00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:57,620 the things that he really wanted to achieve. 562 00:31:57,620 --> 00:32:01,900 He wanted to address the issues 563 00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:06,380 of poverty, despair, drug addiction. 564 00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:11,900 It's hard to equate the image that Tupac presented at Death Row 565 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,500 with the young, idealistic, politically motivated Tupac, 566 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,820 the son of a Black Panther. 567 00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:21,300 We're not being taught to deal with the world as it is. 568 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,420 We're being taught to deal with this fairy land, 569 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:26,260 which we're not even living in any more. 570 00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:28,460 It's sad. 571 00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:31,340 Because I'm telling you, and it should not be me telling you, 572 00:32:31,340 --> 00:32:32,980 it should be common knowledge. 573 00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:36,860 Aren't they wondering why death rates are going up and suicide 574 00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:38,660 is going up and drug abuse? 575 00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:41,540 Aren't they wondering? Don't they understand that more people, 576 00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:44,140 I mean, more kids are being handed crack 577 00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:45,740 than they're being handed diplomas. 578 00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:48,020 I mean, shouldn't...? 579 00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:50,660 I mean like, OK, in school we're learning to analyse 580 00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:54,140 and then... Well, I learned it now they should relearn it. 581 00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:56,540 I think adults should go through school again. 582 00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:58,620 You know, I think that... 583 00:32:58,620 --> 00:33:01,820 I think that rich people should live like poor people and poor people 584 00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:04,860 should live like rich people and they should change every week. 585 00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:06,900 It's prison that changed Tupac. 586 00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:15,220 Going to jail over all that stuff made him bitter 587 00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:16,860 and they changed him. 588 00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:18,580 Even hateful. 589 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:21,140 He wasn't hateful before, but that made him 590 00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:24,380 very hateful and paranoid. 591 00:33:24,380 --> 00:33:26,620 Tupac blamed Biggie for not coming forward 592 00:33:26,620 --> 00:33:28,660 to help him at this time. 593 00:33:28,660 --> 00:33:30,900 Biggie knew the gangsters that had shot him 594 00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:34,140 at the Quad Studios and were behind the sexual abuse charges 595 00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:37,260 that landed Tupac in prison. 596 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:41,860 I would say Big had love for Pac. 597 00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:43,860 And it's not that he wanted to 598 00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:47,540 snake him, but self-preservation. 599 00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:51,580 You know, you don't want to get entangled with people who can hurt 600 00:33:51,580 --> 00:33:55,260 you, you know, but at the same time, you know, something's 601 00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:56,900 going to happen to your friend. 602 00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:00,740 You tried to warn him in in a way that was covert, 603 00:34:00,740 --> 00:34:04,180 but you didn't want to just blatantly say, you know, 604 00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:07,740 these guys, they're stick-up kids, they're extortionists. 605 00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:09,700 You know, they're going to come for you. 606 00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:16,580 The whole time he was in jail, he was trying to figure out 607 00:34:16,580 --> 00:34:18,900 how he was going to get revenge. 608 00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:20,820 He started to plot on how he was 609 00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:23,540 going to get back at everybody who wronged him. 610 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:53,540 I bet you that music hurt him a little bit inside. 611 00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:58,700 I don't have a fact, I don't have anything to back that up, 612 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:02,860 but that ain't who he was. 613 00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:08,260 All Eyez On Me and The Killuminati Theory, 614 00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:10,740 or whatever it was called - I forgot the name of the last album. 615 00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:13,060 I loved it, but... 616 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:15,020 Those albums weren't him. 617 00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:20,140 That 17-year-old would have never said any of that stuff, you know? 618 00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:24,420 I mean, back when he started, I mean, he would never be like that. 619 00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:27,860 But we all change. He got his edge, he knew what he had to sell records. 620 00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:30,740 He was like, this is what I got to do. 621 00:35:30,740 --> 00:35:34,380 I'll shoot three albums or four albums or whatever many albums 622 00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:36,620 I got to do this, and these albums got to sell. 623 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:40,460 When he first started, he was 624 00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:43,900 talking about Panther power, black issues, black rights. 625 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,740 When Tupac was around us, he was really nice. 626 00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,900 He was he was another one that was a genius. 627 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:21,300 Tupac was a reader, but when he got around Suge, 628 00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:23,700 it was a whole different person. 629 00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:28,300 He kind of got gangsta, you know? 630 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,340 Like, his personality changed, 631 00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:35,860 I guess, just saw Suge, you know, "I'm all that," you know. 632 00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:03,420 I remember he came up with the plot that he was going to sleep 633 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:05,580 with Faith Evans in jail. 634 00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:09,620 You know, at first when you told me it, I'm like... 635 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:15,100 Then I was just like, you can't tell Pac nothing. 636 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,740 Whatever he said he's going to do, he's going to do it. 637 00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:22,300 So, it's like, get on board with it or get out the way. 638 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,700 Yeah, he called me up and he's like, guess what, he was like, 639 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,860 "I did it," and I'm like, "What? What did you do?" 640 00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:31,220 And he was like, "Oh, I fucked Faith." 641 00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:33,180 He was like, "Not only did I fuck her, 642 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:36,060 "but I got her to come in the studio and do a song with me." 643 00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:37,660 And I was like, "Really?" 644 00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:41,540 Today, however, through the lyrics of rappers 645 00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:43,540 who display no respect for women... 646 00:37:52,340 --> 00:37:55,340 It is obscene. It is obscene. 647 00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:56,540 It is obscene. 648 00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:08,180 So, now we've got the East Coast, West Coast shit, 649 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:10,980 we got a bad motherfucker on the East Coast, 650 00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:13,020 Puffy, bad boy. 651 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:14,420 We got Suge. 652 00:38:14,420 --> 00:38:18,740 And here we about to come into this East Coast/West Coast nonsense 653 00:38:18,740 --> 00:38:22,580 with two motherfucking cast of characters that the press loves. 654 00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:24,260 You remember that shit. 655 00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:29,460 It just took a life all of its own. 656 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,220 Any artists out there want to be an artist, 657 00:38:40,220 --> 00:38:41,900 they want to stay a star, 658 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:44,300 they don't want to have to worry about the producers trying 659 00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:46,940 to be all in the videos 660 00:38:46,940 --> 00:38:49,580 all on the records, dancing, 661 00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:51,220 come to Death Row. 662 00:38:51,220 --> 00:38:54,300 CHEERING AND BOOING 663 00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,500 If he'd have stood the course on saying, you know, 664 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,340 you don't want the person being all in your videos 665 00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:02,260 and if he'd have stood on that and not tried to get in videos 666 00:39:02,260 --> 00:39:05,340 and put his ass on magazines? 667 00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:07,780 He tried to become the star. 668 00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:10,100 Going towards the end, he was in all the magazines 669 00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:11,300 with cigars in his mouth. 670 00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,020 He forgot what he said. 671 00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:16,780 And that's what brought him down. 672 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:18,420 You got to take care of the artist. 673 00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,140 Biggie Smalls took Puffy's side on the East Coast. 674 00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:27,780 So, we got Brooklyn in the house representing! 675 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:31,940 Snoop, Tupac and Dr Dre supported Suge Knight on the West Coast 676 00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:33,260 at Death Row Records. 677 00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:34,460 BOOING 678 00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:37,820 The East Coast ain't got no love for Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg and Death Row? 679 00:39:37,820 --> 00:39:39,140 Y'all don't love us? 680 00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:41,580 Y'all don't love us? 681 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:46,540 Suge definitely couldn't back down, Suge had more to lose 682 00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:51,220 if he showed a sign of weakness because of these guys he had. 683 00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:57,820 If you a gorilla and you turn into a monkey, you've got a problem, 684 00:39:57,820 --> 00:40:00,540 you don't belong in this crowd. 685 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:04,060 If you a motherfucking pit bull and turn into a poodle, 686 00:40:04,060 --> 00:40:05,700 you don't belong to this crowd. 687 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:07,140 They gon' eat your ass up. 688 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:09,220 So he had to keep it up there, 689 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:10,740 he had to keep his chest up. 690 00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:13,780 He had to be Suge Knight. 691 00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:16,100 And he did that well. 692 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:20,780 Tupac and Biggie's shit just threw a motherfucking atomic bomb 693 00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:25,060 on the gasoline and it just exploded. 694 00:40:25,060 --> 00:40:27,260 Boom. And people was taking sides. 695 00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:31,940 And you have now magazines like ol' messy-ass Vibe 696 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:34,420 and a lot of them magazines, you know, 697 00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:37,660 East Coast, West Coast, this, that, whoo. 698 00:40:37,660 --> 00:40:40,500 East Coast, West Coast, that, what, wow. 699 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,100 Wham, bam. 700 00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,940 All that nonsense. 701 00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:48,660 Tupac got swallowed up by Death Row. 702 00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:52,260 He got swallowed up by his surroundings. 703 00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:30,340 Tupac was already crazy. 704 00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:34,140 It just turned him up another notch, you know, 705 00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:35,940 cos it was already going down. 706 00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:38,700 He came to a company where it was already going down. 707 00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,020 So, when he came over here, he looked like, 708 00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:43,260 "Oh, yeah, I'm finna turn the fuck up." 709 00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:45,020 He said, "I got these fools with me? 710 00:41:45,020 --> 00:41:47,140 "They feel right. Oh, yeah. 711 00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:50,380 "We gon'... Everything that get in my way, I'ma knock it down. 712 00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:51,660 "I'm going crazy." 713 00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:53,420 Cos he was already amped up. 714 00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:54,860 You know what I'm saying? 715 00:41:54,860 --> 00:41:57,220 So, he landed right where he wanted to land. 716 00:41:57,220 --> 00:42:00,300 And he already had an attitude because they didn't go get him, 717 00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:02,140 the other people didn't go get him out, 718 00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:03,980 you know, when he caught the case. 719 00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:05,620 Suge Knight went and got him out. 720 00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:09,460 So, when he came out, he was going to be fully loyal. 721 00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:11,340 All right, still hanging out at the afterparty, 722 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:14,700 and with me, from Death Row, introduce yourself, my man? 723 00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,180 Hey, yo, I'm Suge Knight. 724 00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:19,180 Tupac Shakur. All right. 725 00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:20,700 Do you believe in God? Certainly. 726 00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:22,500 Believe in Death Row East. 727 00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:24,300 Believe in that, for real. 728 00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:27,540 I'ma ride with you! If you believe in God, believe in Death Row East. 729 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:31,580 I think Pac really appreciated that Suge was looking out for him 730 00:42:31,580 --> 00:42:34,220 the way that he was, cos nobody else did. 731 00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:36,380 Eating, travelling, girls - 732 00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:39,460 whatever they did, they did it together. 733 00:42:39,460 --> 00:42:40,860 To me, it was just an incredible life. 734 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:42,140 I mean, you know, It was Death Row. 735 00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:44,180 We were the Motown of the '90s. 736 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:45,820 The Motown of the '90s, 737 00:42:45,820 --> 00:42:47,660 we had the hottest rappers. 738 00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:49,740 Suge was like the mayor of LA. 739 00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:52,740 I mean, you know, if he said it, it went. 740 00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:55,580 I mean, we shopped in the malls, three o'clock in the morning. 741 00:42:55,580 --> 00:42:57,820 3am in the morning, four o'clock in the morning, 742 00:42:57,820 --> 00:43:00,580 you know, four or five stores are staying open because Suge Knight 743 00:43:00,580 --> 00:43:03,060 called them early in the day and made an appointment 744 00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:04,380 for them to be open at 3am. 745 00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:06,140 And we just go into this Foot Locker 746 00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:08,820 and get as many shoes and clothes that we want or, you know, 747 00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:12,340 going to some of the boutiques and shop at three in the morning. 748 00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:14,860 Those fringe benefits were incredible. 749 00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:17,620 To be 15 years old, coming from where I come from and, 750 00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:21,780 you know, eating in the finest places, always flying on airplanes 751 00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:24,220 and private jets and on his yachts and things like that, 752 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:25,340 that was incredible. 753 00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:31,740 That's what Death Row was about. 754 00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:33,740 We caught things on records that nobody else... 755 00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:36,620 You hear them footsteps on records and those doors slamming, 756 00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:38,300 boom, welcome to Death Row. 757 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:39,620 That was organic. 758 00:44:03,460 --> 00:44:05,260 That's why he's the daddy of rappers, 759 00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:07,060 because those things were organic. 760 00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:23,260 He's living the life, the money's there. 761 00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:26,140 They've got the girls around. 762 00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:28,300 They're living the video life. 763 00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:34,300 Whatever it is, it's some cool location, they've got the cars, 764 00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:37,380 they've got the big houses. 765 00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:39,580 Pam had introduced me to some of the girls 766 00:44:39,580 --> 00:44:43,220 who dated Suge and Tupac, and I wondered if she recognises 767 00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:44,860 any of them from these pictures. 768 00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:47,500 Let me see. 769 00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:54,380 I've seen her somewhere before. 770 00:44:54,380 --> 00:44:56,700 I don't know where I seen her at. 771 00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,220 But she looks SO familiar. 772 00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:03,740 They look like they're very, erm... 773 00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:05,140 Looking for love. 774 00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:07,860 When you're looking for love and looking for somebody 775 00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:09,900 to care about you, this is what happens. 776 00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,500 Looking for love? Looking for love. 777 00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:14,500 Looking for love. 778 00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:16,940 You only do demoralising shit... 779 00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:20,580 You only let a motherfucker treat you like this 780 00:45:20,580 --> 00:45:23,220 if you don't have nothing, you know what I'm saying? 781 00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,700 And they bait you in. 782 00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:28,540 And Tupac, he just was a follower. 783 00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:30,780 Suge Knight had his head blew up, 784 00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:33,380 had his head so blew up to where he lost his life. 785 00:45:33,380 --> 00:45:35,860 He had the prime of his life. 786 00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:39,740 But he's being directed by a fucking asshole and a deal, 787 00:45:39,740 --> 00:45:42,660 he don't even see it coming, but he's so loyal. 788 00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:45,140 And he's looking for love, too. 789 00:45:45,140 --> 00:45:47,020 This is the one I seen before. 790 00:45:47,020 --> 00:45:48,420 SMALL GIRL: Hi, Mom! 791 00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:50,060 Goddamn. 792 00:45:50,060 --> 00:45:51,260 Hey. Hey, Mom. 793 00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:55,340 Hi, Nick. Hi, Symphony. 794 00:45:56,740 --> 00:45:58,100 Hey! 795 00:45:58,100 --> 00:45:59,380 I got to go get the computer. 796 00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:01,020 Go say hi to my Auntie Anne. 797 00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:04,820 Say hi to Nick in there. 798 00:46:04,820 --> 00:46:07,100 Remember Nick and Barney? Hi. 799 00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:08,420 My Auntie Anne. 800 00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:19,100 Tupac was so influenced by Suge that he joined the Mob Pirus, 801 00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:22,620 Suge's Compton gang, also known as the Bloods. 802 00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:27,260 that he would ultimately lose his life to it. 803 00:46:27,260 --> 00:46:30,260 I remember the first night when he turned MOB. 804 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:32,900 We was on one side of the studio 805 00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:35,580 and one of my little homeboys, 806 00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:38,100 rest in peace, he went around there and looked in the studio 807 00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:41,220 where Dre and Pac and all them was at and he ran back around to us 808 00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:44,500 and he say, "Cuz." I say, "What's happening?" 809 00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:48,420 He said, "Man, Pac over there in all red." 810 00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:50,620 We went over there and looked. 811 00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:54,540 I said, "Well, they got him," and we went back over there to our side. 812 00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:58,500 That night, we went over and went in there and seen him in all that red. 813 00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:00,340 That night, he turned MOB. 814 00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:05,900 Before that, he was hanging with us all the time, on the Crips side. 815 00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:10,740 He was a very kind-hearted person 816 00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:14,140 who got lost in the image of being tough. 817 00:47:14,140 --> 00:47:15,820 He just wasn't a fighter. 818 00:47:15,820 --> 00:47:17,380 He was definitely a lover, not a fighter, 819 00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:18,620 and we used to laugh about it. 820 00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:21,700 GUNSHOTS 821 00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:25,020 He had suffered some brutal beatdowns out here. 822 00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:26,540 He wanted to be tougher. 823 00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:28,460 After he did Juice, he started acting like 824 00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:29,780 he was the character in Juice. 825 00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:31,420 His persona changed. 826 00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:35,700 And he, you know, a lot of my childhood friends from then, 827 00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:38,500 cos I introduced him to most of my friends and family, 828 00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,300 they said he started acting like he was Bishop. 829 00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:43,380 I ain't got to do nothing. 830 00:47:43,380 --> 00:47:45,020 You the past, bro. 831 00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:46,620 My time is now. 832 00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:49,740 You ready to die, nigga? 833 00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,980 When they expected him to be this thug, this gangster, 834 00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:56,980 which he wasn't, it got him killed. 835 00:47:56,980 --> 00:48:00,060 It's a hard thing to be a gun-toting person 836 00:48:00,060 --> 00:48:02,500 with all that malice in your heart. 837 00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:03,940 It's a burden. 838 00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:11,020 You know, when I first met Tupac - Suge brought him to the hood 839 00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:14,860 when he came home - Tupac was real cool. 840 00:48:14,860 --> 00:48:16,380 He was real cool. 841 00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:18,740 And the next time you see him... 842 00:48:20,780 --> 00:48:22,900 ..he on the thug shit, like Suge. He... 843 00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:26,980 He know he can't be touched at this time. 844 00:48:26,980 --> 00:48:30,860 "I got ten, 11 motherfuckers who gon' be around me all day, 845 00:48:30,860 --> 00:48:34,580 "every day, and they ready to kill a motherfucker for me. 846 00:48:34,580 --> 00:48:37,940 "So, right here, telling me, I can do what I want to do, 847 00:48:37,940 --> 00:48:40,820 "I can cuss out any motherfucker I want to cuss out, 848 00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:43,140 "I can spit on whoever I want to spit on. 849 00:48:43,140 --> 00:48:45,060 "And ain't nothing gon' happen. 850 00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:48,220 "There's no such word of repercussion here." 851 00:48:48,220 --> 00:48:52,060 You know, when he put the Mob on him, I definitely didn't like that, 852 00:48:52,060 --> 00:48:55,100 because me and my brother used 853 00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:58,020 to have the biggest arguments in the world. 854 00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:07,500 Bountry, Mob James' brother, 855 00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:09,540 seen here in hat and red, 856 00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:12,580 became Suge and Tupac's number-one man, which caused 857 00:49:12,580 --> 00:49:14,260 problems between the brothers. 858 00:49:14,260 --> 00:49:15,780 My brother and them can say, 859 00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:18,020 nigga, you could claim tomorrow if you want to. 860 00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:19,260 Nah, you can't. 861 00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:22,460 You ain't did no drive-by shootings, you ain't did no... 862 00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:24,580 You ain't beat no-motherfucking-body up. 863 00:49:24,580 --> 00:49:26,660 You ain't did shit. 864 00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:29,980 What it takes to be what we are. 865 00:49:29,980 --> 00:49:32,940 So, that's just like me, just, phew. 866 00:49:32,940 --> 00:49:35,220 Tupac the homie because Tupac got money. 867 00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:38,980 No, fuck that, this means a lot more to me than Tupac. 868 00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:43,660 You go on over there and be a Death Row Mob, 869 00:49:43,660 --> 00:49:46,100 but not this, not from here. 870 00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:47,900 You ain't from Compton. 871 00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:49,740 Me and my sister used to sing that song, 872 00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:51,980 but she couldn't sing that good, so... 873 00:49:54,660 --> 00:49:58,860 Anyway, I want everybody to give a big welcome for... 874 00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:00,180 ..Tupac. 875 00:50:00,180 --> 00:50:01,740 CHEERING 876 00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:06,420 They were like brothers. 877 00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:09,220 Tupac was like a little brother to him. 878 00:50:09,220 --> 00:50:12,500 They had keys to each other's house, they think with one brain. 879 00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:14,420 Tupac never had a foundation. 880 00:50:15,980 --> 00:50:19,020 Never had a foundation, he never had, like, that family... 881 00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:20,820 You know, that stability. 882 00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:22,460 Uncle Suge did. 883 00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:26,340 So, I think that's why they kind of fed off each other. 884 00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:29,860 Uncle Suge was thinking more so of just getting money 885 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,380 and making money and, 886 00:50:31,380 --> 00:50:34,220 you know, supporting, you know, I guess black people as a whole. 887 00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:37,260 And Tupac was more, "Nah, think bigger. Think bigger. 888 00:50:37,260 --> 00:50:40,540 "We can go international, we can do this, we can do that." 889 00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:43,780 Hence the Death Row East and etc, etc. 890 00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:48,260 I mean, he was like, "I want our faces printed on money, 891 00:50:48,260 --> 00:50:51,340 "I want something bigger, let's think bigger, let's think bigger." 892 00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:53,740 And Tupac more was on the bigger side, "Let's think bigger," 893 00:50:53,740 --> 00:50:56,500 and Uncle Suge was like, "Huh? OK." 894 00:50:59,340 --> 00:51:02,060 That's Tupac and Uncle Suge, and they shared everything. 895 00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:05,980 Yes, they shared everything. 896 00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:14,020 Things were totally out of control. 897 00:51:15,940 --> 00:51:17,380 And it's very sad. 898 00:51:19,340 --> 00:51:21,780 I always had that dark sense 899 00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:27,020 that I was always seen to be the one to kill the joy. 900 00:51:29,980 --> 00:51:33,700 Everybody wanted to be happy 901 00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:36,580 and high and drinking, and I felt 902 00:51:36,580 --> 00:51:38,420 like they smoked too much weed. 903 00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:43,500 You know, the whole atmosphere was 904 00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:47,620 one of total disconnect to reality. 905 00:51:47,620 --> 00:51:52,860 But it was way beyond what he needed 906 00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:55,260 to deal with the realities 907 00:51:55,260 --> 00:51:57,540 of his life at that time. 908 00:51:57,540 --> 00:51:59,340 He had too much going on that 909 00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:00,980 required a lot of logical, 910 00:52:00,980 --> 00:52:02,820 level-headed thinking, 911 00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:04,900 and he wasn't getting that. 912 00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:07,060 I was trying to give it to him, 913 00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:10,460 but he wasn't listening to me. 914 00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:12,940 I didn't know who to trust 915 00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:16,340 and I didn't trust Death Row. 916 00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:19,660 They have a get-rich-or-die ethos on the West Coast, 917 00:52:19,660 --> 00:52:22,900 doesn't matter what you do as long as you're making money. 918 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:24,940 Death Row made millions, yeah, 919 00:52:24,940 --> 00:52:26,980 but Tupac didn't see that money. 920 00:52:28,940 --> 00:52:32,260 First thing I noticed was that David Kenner, 921 00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:35,700 who was the lawyer for Death Row Records, 922 00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:37,740 was also Tupac's lawyer. 923 00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:40,580 And I said to him, "Tupac, that's a contradiction, 924 00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:43,180 "you need your own lawyer." 925 00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:48,100 Tupac did not fire David Kenner until, I believe, August. 926 00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:53,580 So he went all those months with his business up in the air, 927 00:52:53,580 --> 00:52:57,060 no accountability about his money, no accountability 928 00:52:57,060 --> 00:53:00,100 about what was being spent, what was being recouped. 929 00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,100 So that's why we were always asking, 930 00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:05,740 "Well, how much money does he actually have?" 931 00:53:05,740 --> 00:53:08,820 Well, every time we would ask for the audit, 932 00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:10,540 there'd be a new gift. 933 00:53:12,260 --> 00:53:15,260 There'd be a new car. 934 00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:18,900 There'd be a gift to the family. 935 00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:22,020 And these cars weren't even in his name. 936 00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:25,220 When Tupac passed away, that's the first thing Death Row did, 937 00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:28,380 was come and take the cars back. 938 00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:30,540 He didn't want to hear me telling him that, 939 00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:32,580 "Tupac, they're sending over roses, 940 00:53:32,580 --> 00:53:34,180 "they're sending over cars, 941 00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:36,020 "they're sending over gifts." 942 00:53:36,020 --> 00:53:38,860 I said, "Don't you think there's something wrong with that? 943 00:53:38,860 --> 00:53:44,140 And he would go all the way, live off on me and basically say, 944 00:53:44,140 --> 00:53:47,020 "I know it's a problem, OK? 945 00:53:47,020 --> 00:53:49,860 "But I know what I'm doing." Yes. 946 00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:51,460 And it caused conflict. 947 00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:55,420 It caused conflict between me and him. 948 00:53:55,420 --> 00:53:57,340 It was a living nightmare. 949 00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:18,300 Everybody just got too comfortable and it went the way it went 950 00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:21,820 because nobody was in Tupac's ear, 951 00:54:21,820 --> 00:54:25,140 "Nah, homie, we got to protect you, 952 00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:26,620 "we got to be like this." 953 00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:34,180 Let's say he just put the icing on the cake 954 00:54:34,180 --> 00:54:36,420 because now there's more fun, 955 00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:40,100 now there's more Tupac trying to be like, you know, 956 00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:43,020 like the security, opposed to being a rapper. 957 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:46,740 And he's not on the Snoop Dogg tip, he's on the homies' tip. 958 00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:50,380 Now there's drinking and getting high all day 959 00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:53,100 and wanting to beat up somebody, 960 00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:56,740 you know, just the whole mentality, they just changed. 961 00:55:01,340 --> 00:55:04,860 I stopped Tupac from fighting many times. 962 00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:09,260 Tupac was a disturbed soul when it came to gangbanging 963 00:55:09,260 --> 00:55:11,500 and fighting and stuff like that. 964 00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:12,740 He loved to fight. 965 00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:14,740 He loved to fight? Oh, he loved to fight, yeah. 966 00:55:14,740 --> 00:55:16,980 He loved getting into altercations. 967 00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:19,220 Did he? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. 968 00:55:19,220 --> 00:55:21,260 Absolutely. 969 00:55:21,260 --> 00:55:25,300 The night of the fatal shooting, Tupac, to prove his gang loyalty, 970 00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:28,420 took on a Crip gunman called Orlando Anderson. 971 00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:30,180 SCREAMING 972 00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:38,620 Orlando, a Crip gang member, was a long-term enemy of the Bloods, 973 00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:41,780 but it would turn out to be a fatal mistake for Tupac. 974 00:55:41,780 --> 00:55:43,900 Suge himself took part in the fight, 975 00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:45,620 for which he would be sent to prison. 976 00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:54,580 Orlando boasted that he had shot Tupac. 977 00:55:54,580 --> 00:55:58,220 Frank, Tupac's bodyguard, was in the car behind. 978 00:55:58,220 --> 00:56:00,900 The gun just starts firing. 979 00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:04,140 He's obviously aware that bullets are coming through the car 980 00:56:04,140 --> 00:56:05,500 and he's being shot at. 981 00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:09,940 And as he fires, he hits Tupac a couple of times. 982 00:56:09,940 --> 00:56:12,580 And bullets are bouncing, going all through the car. 983 00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:17,700 As I'm running up to the car, I'm thinking, 984 00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:19,340 "Oh, my God, they're dead." 985 00:56:19,340 --> 00:56:21,180 Suge's laying down on the ground. 986 00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:32,780 Tupac is still in the passenger side. 987 00:56:33,980 --> 00:56:36,540 At that point, we pulled Tupac out 988 00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:39,220 and we laid him down on the ground, 989 00:56:39,220 --> 00:56:41,340 and that's when the paramedics were taking over, 990 00:56:41,340 --> 00:56:44,740 at that point right there. Did Tupac say anything at that point? 991 00:56:44,740 --> 00:56:49,220 He just... He moved his arms from his side and he crossed 'em 992 00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:54,260 over his body, as such, and said, "I can't breathe." 993 00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:56,500 And that was the last thing I ever heard him say. 994 00:57:10,820 --> 00:57:14,580 So, we were there the six days, the six, seven days that Pac was 995 00:57:14,580 --> 00:57:18,460 living, we would go in the room and, you know, pray. 996 00:57:18,460 --> 00:57:20,700 You know, praying for him to get better. 997 00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:23,140 And, yeah, I sang for him. I always sang for him, though. 998 00:57:23,140 --> 00:57:27,420 I always sang for him, but being able to sing for him 999 00:57:27,420 --> 00:57:31,980 in the hospital, while he was laying how he was, was something. 1000 00:57:31,980 --> 00:57:34,900 I sang Change Is Gonna Come, it was one of his favourite songs 1001 00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:36,380 that he liked me to do. 1002 00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:39,620 Remind me of that song. 1003 00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:41,420 So, that's by Sam Cooke. 1004 00:57:41,420 --> 00:57:43,020 You want to hear it? 1005 00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:47,100 # I was born by the river 1006 00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:49,380 # In a little tent 1007 00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:52,660 # Oh, just like that river 1008 00:57:52,660 --> 00:57:58,060 # I've been running ever since 1009 00:57:58,060 --> 00:58:01,300 # It's been a long 1010 00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:04,700 # Long time coming 1011 00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:10,500 # And I know a change gon' come 1012 00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:13,060 # Oh, yes, it will. # 1013 00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:33,620 Greg Kading, in his book Murder Rap, alleges the shooting of Tupac 1014 00:58:33,620 --> 00:58:36,940 coincided with Keefe D, Orlando Anderson's uncle, 1015 00:58:36,940 --> 00:58:41,940 and the Crips being offered $1 million by Puffy for protection. 1016 00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:45,460 He claims that Puffy was saying, "Listen, I need you to do something 1017 00:58:45,460 --> 00:58:49,780 "about this conflict I'm having with Suge Knight and Tupac." 1018 00:58:49,780 --> 00:58:51,180 And, you know, just, 1019 00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:54,740 "I'm tired of having to look over my shoulders," essentially. 1020 00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:56,060 "Can you handle it?" 1021 00:58:56,060 --> 00:58:57,820 And, of course, Keffe D said, 1022 00:58:57,820 --> 00:59:01,220 "That's no problem, you know, that's what we do." 1023 00:59:01,220 --> 00:59:05,900 And Keffe D said he wanted $1 million and Puffy, essentially, 1024 00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:08,980 was like, "Just, whatever, just handle it." 1025 00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:11,980 It was this war that Suge Knight had with Puffy Combs 1026 00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:14,620 that cost so many lives. 1027 00:59:14,620 --> 00:59:18,900 After Orlando shot Tupac, he went back to Compton, bragging about it. 1028 00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:20,260 You know what I'm saying? 1029 00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:23,380 So, we know who killed Tupac, fo' sho', fo' sho'. 1030 00:59:25,820 --> 00:59:29,700 And it was just a sad thing, you know what I'm saying? 1031 00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:33,100 That these two guys brought gangs into, 1032 00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:36,300 you know, the Hollywood world, 1033 00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:38,940 the music industry, you know what I'm saying? 1034 00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:40,620 So, it destroyed everything. 1035 00:59:50,180 --> 00:59:52,900 After Tupac's death, a major gang war breaks out 1036 00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:54,900 between the Bloods and the Crips. 1037 01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:22,940 Orlando Anderson is arrested in the police raids, 1038 01:00:22,940 --> 01:00:25,980 but he's never charged because of insufficient evidence. 1039 01:00:30,180 --> 01:00:33,140 Tupac didn't know what he was getting into. 1040 01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:35,980 He didn't know that the Crips and Bloods been killing each other 1041 01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:38,820 since the '70s. And he was a shooter, too. 1042 01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:40,580 That's the thing. 1043 01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:43,060 When you out here, you don't know who you messing with. 1044 01:00:43,060 --> 01:00:46,660 If you messing with a shooter, 1045 01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:48,700 you gon' get shot. 1046 01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:52,780 If you messing with some fighters, y'all might be down. 1047 01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:54,580 But it's going to happen. 1048 01:00:54,580 --> 01:00:57,420 That's the thing about it, is he's going to come back 1049 01:00:57,420 --> 01:01:01,900 and that's how Orlando was. He wasn't going for that. 1050 01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:04,780 Yeah, we had to wear bulletproof vests, especially going towards 1051 01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:08,380 the end, I had to have security sleep in my room. 1052 01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:10,860 In my hotel, I had to stay in a hotel for a while 1053 01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:13,900 and security slept in my room. 1054 01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:16,500 And I couldn't move without them. Why was that? 1055 01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:19,020 I mean, all the death threats that was coming. 1056 01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:21,420 A lot of people lost their lives when Pac died. 1057 01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:24,420 Pac died, but there was a lot of people that lost their lives. 1058 01:01:26,020 --> 01:01:29,220 And it appears to be possibly a shooting. 1059 01:01:29,220 --> 01:01:32,940 18 months later, Orlando Anderson himself is gunned down 1060 01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:35,580 and killed at this car wash in Compton. 1061 01:01:35,580 --> 01:01:37,460 According to sheriff's deputies, 1062 01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:39,700 one person was struck by gunfire in Compton. 1063 01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:43,340 Right now, we have one down outside the car, one down inside the car. 1064 01:01:43,340 --> 01:01:46,380 Not surprisingly, nobody in the community trusts the police, 1065 01:01:46,380 --> 01:01:48,420 who are feared and despised. 1066 01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:53,300 Not snitching to the police is so basic that even though he knew 1067 01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:56,940 the identity of Tupac's gunman, Suge refused to cooperate. 1068 01:01:56,940 --> 01:02:00,740 If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police? 1069 01:02:00,740 --> 01:02:03,060 Absolutely not. 1070 01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:06,100 I mean, cos, you know, I... Why not? 1071 01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:07,700 Because it's not my job. 1072 01:02:07,700 --> 01:02:09,940 I don't get paid to solve homicides. 1073 01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:12,180 I don't get paid to tell on people. 1074 01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:15,420 Pam, our producer, had to defend us from being mistaken 1075 01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:18,660 for LAPD police officer Greg Kading. 1076 01:02:18,660 --> 01:02:21,340 Without Pam, we could never have made the film. 1077 01:02:24,980 --> 01:02:26,460 No, he's not. 1078 01:02:29,660 --> 01:02:31,460 No, where did you hear that from? 1079 01:02:34,340 --> 01:02:35,500 No! 1080 01:02:37,540 --> 01:02:38,980 I'm 100% sure. 1081 01:02:38,980 --> 01:02:40,620 Where did you get that shit from? 1082 01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,380 I mean, I wouldn't, if he was an ex-police officer, 1083 01:02:50,380 --> 01:02:52,180 you think I would help him and fuck with him? 1084 01:02:52,180 --> 01:02:55,060 He wasn't... Listen. Uh-uh. 1085 01:02:55,060 --> 01:02:58,100 Didn't he send you the link to everything you can google 1086 01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:00,100 and find out about who he is? 1087 01:03:02,540 --> 01:03:04,180 All right, I'ma send it to you. 1088 01:03:04,180 --> 01:03:05,820 I want you to check it out. 1089 01:03:05,820 --> 01:03:07,420 They lying. 1090 01:03:07,420 --> 01:03:09,460 I don't fuck with the police. 1091 01:03:09,460 --> 01:03:11,900 I mean, let me just say this to you. 1092 01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:14,780 It don't even fucking matter to me because I don't fuck 1093 01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:18,620 with the police and whoever said that shit is lying and... 1094 01:03:18,620 --> 01:03:21,860 How the fuck is Nick an ex-police and he's from fucking England? 1095 01:03:21,860 --> 01:03:23,500 He's from the fucking UK. 1096 01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:41,900 ..and he started saying stuff like, 1097 01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:45,820 "What do you do when you ain't got real friends? 1098 01:03:47,860 --> 01:03:52,540 "What do you do when the people you love do you wrong?" 1099 01:03:52,540 --> 01:03:55,580 Like, these are some of the words that I remember 1100 01:03:55,580 --> 01:03:58,300 and he would talk about it a little more and... 1101 01:03:58,300 --> 01:04:00,900 ..he would turn around in the chair, and when he turned back around, 1102 01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:02,860 like about the third time, he's crying. 1103 01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:07,340 And I knew what that place was coming from. 1104 01:04:07,340 --> 01:04:10,620 I seen it in his face, you can almost look in his eyes 1105 01:04:10,620 --> 01:04:14,900 and see just, like, he had this... just a stare. 1106 01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:18,940 Like he was so surprised that this happened to Death Row. 1107 01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:25,100 So surprised that this could happen to somebody that he was like 1108 01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:28,660 the chief of watch, he was the overseer, and that happened 1109 01:04:28,660 --> 01:04:32,940 on his watch, and he already thought that he was untouchable. 1110 01:04:35,060 --> 01:04:37,020 And at that time, we've been touched. 1111 01:04:37,020 --> 01:04:39,860 What happened in the end when he got locked up, 1112 01:04:39,860 --> 01:04:42,860 Suge got a little selfish side of him as well. 1113 01:04:42,860 --> 01:04:44,580 Mean side, mean streak. 1114 01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:49,020 So that attitude, I'm sure, kicked in, meaning that if I can survive 1115 01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:53,380 off of $5 a week, if I could survive in jail off of cookies 1116 01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:57,340 and milk, if I could survive off of not going anywhere, 1117 01:04:57,340 --> 01:05:00,180 if I could live in this shithole jail, 1118 01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:02,780 you should be able to make it on the streets. 1119 01:05:02,780 --> 01:05:05,420 That's his attitude, so he didn't even have to tell me. 1120 01:05:05,420 --> 01:05:07,500 I knew that's the kind of person that he is. 1121 01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:08,860 They out there in the streets, 1122 01:05:08,860 --> 01:05:11,140 he's not going to pay for you to live in Beverly Hills 1123 01:05:11,140 --> 01:05:13,580 and he's in damned Los Angeles County Jail. 1124 01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:18,060 So it felt like when he got locked up, we were locked up. 1125 01:05:18,060 --> 01:05:21,300 For sure we was. When Suge Knight was sentenced to jail, 1126 01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:23,620 that's when everybody went to jail. 1127 01:05:23,620 --> 01:05:26,620 It was a fucking shame, man, and excuse my language, 1128 01:05:26,620 --> 01:05:30,860 but, you know, at the end of this thing, 1129 01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:35,500 you know, Snoop is kind of like, 1130 01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:37,820 he's like a duck, he's real cool, 1131 01:05:37,820 --> 01:05:44,020 but underneath pedalling like, "Oh, shit, I hope I don't drown," 1132 01:05:44,020 --> 01:05:45,300 you know what I mean? 1133 01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:47,740 Same thing with, you know, Dogg Pound, 1134 01:05:47,740 --> 01:05:50,940 same thing with Nate Dogg, same thing with all the, you know, 1135 01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:54,020 with all the acts, they all get up there and it's like, 1136 01:05:54,020 --> 01:05:59,060 "Wait a minute - you mean there's nothing to actually hold on to?" 1137 01:05:59,060 --> 01:06:00,500 That's kind of sad. 1138 01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:03,660 That's, that's like... what was you doing? 1139 01:06:09,380 --> 01:06:11,100 While in jail, he's just... 1140 01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:14,500 ..he's just stewing and he's so pissed off. 1141 01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:18,700 You know, he just lost his friend, his number-one artist 1142 01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:23,060 and his record company is kind of beginning to circle the drain. 1143 01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:26,300 And so he takes it upon himself to retaliate. 1144 01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:30,180 He puts things into order to have Biggie killed. 1145 01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:36,860 Somebody had to go at it after Tupac. 1146 01:06:36,860 --> 01:06:39,260 I truly believe that, so... 1147 01:06:39,260 --> 01:06:40,540 Somebody had to go? 1148 01:06:40,540 --> 01:06:43,100 Yeah, somebody had to die. 1149 01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,820 It's way serious now. 1150 01:06:45,820 --> 01:06:50,300 It's way serious now, y'all done cut the head off the chicken, 1151 01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:54,180 so we got to do the same thing to y'all 1152 01:06:54,180 --> 01:06:59,420 and that's all it is, is repercussion, revenge. 1153 01:06:59,420 --> 01:07:00,820 Somebody got to do something. 1154 01:07:00,820 --> 01:07:04,220 Something got to happen because if don't nothing happen, 1155 01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:07,740 then you have everybody and they momma from everywhere 1156 01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:08,940 trying to get at you 1157 01:07:08,940 --> 01:07:12,340 because y'all just sit back and let Tupac get killed. 1158 01:07:12,340 --> 01:07:14,620 So it had to be something. 1159 01:07:16,980 --> 01:07:20,940 Biggie shouldn't have came to California after Tupac died. 1160 01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:25,620 That was a bad choice for them to make. 1161 01:07:25,620 --> 01:07:29,540 But the East Coast, West Coast thing, like I told you before, 1162 01:07:29,540 --> 01:07:32,060 it's just a situation where it was just me and Pac 1163 01:07:32,060 --> 01:07:34,580 had our little differences or whatever, 1164 01:07:34,580 --> 01:07:37,540 but I'm here to take over, saying it's all over with. 1165 01:07:37,540 --> 01:07:39,420 I'm in the West right now. 1166 01:07:39,420 --> 01:07:41,620 If you need me, if you want to see me, talk to me, 1167 01:07:41,620 --> 01:07:45,340 whatever you want to do, now the time. Call on up. 1168 01:07:45,340 --> 01:07:51,420 And they all on Power 106 and they just all over the radio stations 1169 01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:54,620 and, you know, and Pac is dead now. 1170 01:07:54,620 --> 01:07:57,660 I'm like, "What the fuck is these dudes thinking about?" 1171 01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:06,700 And there's already an undercurrent grumbling happening in LA. 1172 01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:09,700 Like, these niggas got a lot of nerve. 1173 01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:11,900 They going to just come out here. 1174 01:08:11,900 --> 01:08:14,740 I'm serious. These is now all the gang dudes in LA 1175 01:08:14,740 --> 01:08:17,380 and I'm talking about Mexican gangs, too. 1176 01:08:17,380 --> 01:08:21,260 This had nothing... This wasn't just black gangs saying it. 1177 01:08:21,260 --> 01:08:23,220 "I'm going to get them motherfuckers." 1178 01:08:39,820 --> 01:08:42,300 Both theories about the shooting of Biggie Smalls 1179 01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:45,380 agree that Suge Knight ordered the hit from prison. 1180 01:08:45,380 --> 01:08:48,260 Kading argues that the police were not involved and the hit 1181 01:08:48,260 --> 01:08:50,140 was carried out by Blood gangsters. 1182 01:08:50,140 --> 01:08:53,220 Russell Poole has always argued that dirty cops did it. 1183 01:08:53,220 --> 01:08:56,420 You know, had it been just your ordinary drive-by shooting 1184 01:08:56,420 --> 01:09:00,660 by some unexperienced gangbangers, we would have solved it 1185 01:09:00,660 --> 01:09:03,140 a long time ago, no question about it. 1186 01:09:03,140 --> 01:09:06,980 But you've got to think to yourself, well, who could do this 1187 01:09:06,980 --> 01:09:08,340 and get away with it? 1188 01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:10,620 You've got to get into their mind. 1189 01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:13,060 GUNFIRE 1190 01:09:15,580 --> 01:09:18,980 911 emergency. Yeah, we need an ambulance on 5th after Wiltshire. 1191 01:09:18,980 --> 01:09:22,980 Please, we have a man shot. We have a shot. 1192 01:09:22,980 --> 01:09:25,060 OK, hold on, I'll get that to you. 1193 01:09:25,060 --> 01:09:27,580 Right on the corner of Wiltshire and 5th. 1194 01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:30,500 We have a man shot in our car right now! 1195 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:33,580 We're rolling to a hospital right now... 1196 01:09:33,580 --> 01:09:36,420 Listen, is the body that was shot in your car? No. 1197 01:09:36,420 --> 01:09:38,100 You're going to the hospital? 1198 01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:42,300 Thing is, that was a pro. 1199 01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:45,460 That wasn't no bunch of scattered fucking bullet holes, 1200 01:09:45,460 --> 01:09:48,180 them bullet holes went straight across like that. 1201 01:09:48,180 --> 01:09:52,900 Wasn't no scattered bullets, like in the BMW, the Tupac car. 1202 01:09:52,900 --> 01:09:54,540 It was a straight line. 1203 01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:00,180 Russell Poole gave up his career to solve this murder 1204 01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:03,180 and was vilified by his superiors. 1205 01:10:03,180 --> 01:10:07,100 I was told not to talk about the Biggie Smalls killing. 1206 01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:11,580 During the course of the investigation of David Mack 1207 01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:15,820 possibly being involved in the Biggie Smalls case, 1208 01:10:15,820 --> 01:10:17,140 I was told, hey, 1209 01:10:17,140 --> 01:10:20,300 Mack had already gone down for the bank robbery. 1210 01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:22,740 Let's not get into any more controversy. 1211 01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:24,980 And that was that. 1212 01:10:24,980 --> 01:10:28,820 And there was no urgency to investigate David Mack 1213 01:10:28,820 --> 01:10:30,820 for the killing of Biggie Smalls. 1214 01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:37,300 Four years later, in the year 2000, when still nobody had been charged 1215 01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:41,100 for the murders, we take Russell to New York and introduce him 1216 01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:45,900 to Voletta Wallace, Biggie's mum, who is equally frustrated. 1217 01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:47,300 Hi. 1218 01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:52,500 So this is... Hi, Mrs Wallace, how you doing? 1219 01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:54,340 I'm Russ Poole. 1220 01:10:54,340 --> 01:10:57,900 Nice to meet you. Oh, hey there. 1221 01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:01,540 How are you? Nice to see you again. 1222 01:11:01,540 --> 01:11:03,540 Hi there. 1223 01:11:03,540 --> 01:11:07,660 You know, there are some private investigators working on 1224 01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:11,380 some good leads, and if they come up with some good stuff, 1225 01:11:11,380 --> 01:11:14,060 we'll be sure to come back out here. 1226 01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:18,220 OK. Voletta went on to file a $500 million lawsuit, 1227 01:11:18,220 --> 01:11:21,220 an estimate of her son's lifetime earnings, 1228 01:11:21,220 --> 01:11:23,740 against the City of Los Angeles. 1229 01:11:23,740 --> 01:11:26,980 All it was is a Puffy and Suge Knight war, 1230 01:11:26,980 --> 01:11:31,780 so if that's the case, Puffy, Suge Knight, solve your damn problem. 1231 01:11:31,780 --> 01:11:34,460 They should have done that. 1232 01:11:34,460 --> 01:11:37,300 So that's where the East Coast, West Coast thing came. 1233 01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:38,860 Everybody wants to be famous, 1234 01:11:38,860 --> 01:11:41,980 so they went to the newspaper and gave their own little stories. 1235 01:11:41,980 --> 01:11:44,220 And everybody start East Coast, West Coast. 1236 01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:46,820 East Coast was Puffy, West Coast was Suge Knight. 1237 01:11:46,820 --> 01:11:49,940 East Coast was Biggie, West Coast was Tupac. 1238 01:11:49,940 --> 01:11:52,700 Come on now. You're messing with lives here. 1239 01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:54,540 And that's exactly what happened. 1240 01:11:54,540 --> 01:11:57,180 Two lives were lost as a result of what? 1241 01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:58,820 Stupidity? 1242 01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:05,100 Years later, I discovered that this earlier film I did with Voletta 1243 01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:09,460 did prompt an FBI investigation into possible LAPD involvement 1244 01:12:09,460 --> 01:12:11,060 with her son's murder. 1245 01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:19,260 I really was watching TV one night and I came across this documentary, 1246 01:12:19,260 --> 01:12:21,780 it was on the whole Biggie murder. 1247 01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:26,220 So I wrote up a long report to my bosses, they all signed off on it. 1248 01:12:26,220 --> 01:12:27,900 They said, "Yeah, you know what? 1249 01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:31,140 "You've got something here, let's run with it." 1250 01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:34,540 So that's how the whole case got started. 1251 01:12:35,980 --> 01:12:39,700 The LAPD did not welcome this FBI investigation and set up 1252 01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:43,300 their own, looking for evidence to counterattack 1253 01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:45,540 the Biggie Smalls lawsuit. 1254 01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:48,740 Greg Kading was the head of Operation Transparency. 1255 01:12:48,740 --> 01:12:52,980 Yeah, so as that lawsuit kind of weaved in and out of the courts, 1256 01:12:52,980 --> 01:12:57,900 it came to a point where the LAPD realised, you know, in civil court, 1257 01:12:57,900 --> 01:13:00,180 just about anything could happen and they thought 1258 01:13:00,180 --> 01:13:04,740 it would be in their best interest to re-look at the case. 1259 01:13:06,580 --> 01:13:10,780 The City of LA prevented the lead FBI investigator, Phil Carson, 1260 01:13:10,780 --> 01:13:13,380 from testifying at the trial. 1261 01:13:13,380 --> 01:13:17,900 They said, "Yeah, you're not looking into solving a murder, 1262 01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:20,900 "you're looking into solving a murder that involved 1263 01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:23,740 "the LAPD orchestrating it." 1264 01:13:23,740 --> 01:13:26,700 They said, "You guys got to squash this subpoena 1265 01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:30,620 "because if Phil testifies, we got at least a 50/50 chance of losing 1266 01:13:30,620 --> 01:13:33,100 "a $500 million lawsuit." 1267 01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:35,260 And to be honest with you, they're right. 1268 01:13:35,260 --> 01:13:38,740 I think it's better than a 50/50 chance. 1269 01:13:41,980 --> 01:13:46,620 Greg Kading, who headed up the LAPD task force, disputes that LAPD cops 1270 01:13:46,620 --> 01:13:49,420 were involved in the hit on Biggie Smalls. 1271 01:13:49,420 --> 01:13:52,780 He not only wrote a book, but was involved in a major series 1272 01:13:52,780 --> 01:13:54,780 on Netflix and on BET 1273 01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:57,580 and his views are widely accepted today. 1274 01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:02,900 He says the officers Mack and Perez never worked at Death Row, 1275 01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:07,100 but we came up with new evidence showing Greg Kading is incorrect. 1276 01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:11,260 David Mack, the LAPD officer, never, ever worked or was affiliated 1277 01:14:11,260 --> 01:14:13,300 and associated with Death Row Records at all. 1278 01:14:13,300 --> 01:14:16,780 Neither was Rafael Perez, and those were the two individuals 1279 01:14:16,780 --> 01:14:19,380 that jailhouse informants had claimed 1280 01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:21,620 were part of Death Row's security. 1281 01:14:21,620 --> 01:14:23,020 They weren't, ever. 1282 01:14:23,020 --> 01:14:26,740 And that was looked into not only by the original investigators 1283 01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:29,420 back in the mid '90s, but also by our task force. 1284 01:14:34,620 --> 01:14:38,980 Officer David Mack was apparently a charismatic and social guy, 1285 01:14:38,980 --> 01:14:42,940 so many people at Death Row remember him. 1286 01:14:42,940 --> 01:14:44,540 I knew David very well. 1287 01:14:44,540 --> 01:14:47,220 I was actually quite shocked when I saw David 1288 01:14:47,220 --> 01:14:50,860 and he was in LAPD, very surprised. 1289 01:14:50,860 --> 01:14:57,100 And he came with me to the video shoot when we were doing Mac Mall 1290 01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:02,220 and Ray Luv's video shoot, and Tupac was directing and he wanted 1291 01:15:02,220 --> 01:15:06,940 to be connected because he wanted to do off-duty work for rap artists. 1292 01:15:06,940 --> 01:15:10,580 And I brought him to that video shoot 1293 01:15:10,580 --> 01:15:15,860 and a little later, I found out he was working with all the rappers 1294 01:15:15,860 --> 01:15:20,900 I knew off-duty and a lot of other cops that I knew. 1295 01:15:24,980 --> 01:15:28,820 Leila isn't the only one who remembers Mack and Perez. 1296 01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:32,220 Yeah, I seen him. I've seen David Mack plenty of time. 1297 01:15:32,220 --> 01:15:34,940 They had to come to the party because you never knew 1298 01:15:34,940 --> 01:15:37,180 when it was going to jump off. 1299 01:15:37,180 --> 01:15:39,420 Hung out with them, 1300 01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:41,460 been in the room with them, 1301 01:15:41,460 --> 01:15:43,500 been around them. You know, 1302 01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:46,300 ever since they'd been around, I was around. 1303 01:15:46,300 --> 01:15:47,940 That's all I've got. 1304 01:15:47,940 --> 01:15:49,180 And who was the other one? 1305 01:15:49,180 --> 01:15:53,700 Rafael Perez. Rafael Perez, seen him too. 1306 01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:57,100 Like I said, it wasn't no different from us. 1307 01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:59,780 Only thing, they had badges and we didn't. 1308 01:15:59,780 --> 01:16:03,180 So, you know, we might be somewhere, you know, it'd go like this. 1309 01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:05,540 We'd get into it with whoever we get into it with, 1310 01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:08,860 and when the police rushed us, our police rushed them. 1311 01:16:08,860 --> 01:16:10,540 That's how it went. 1312 01:16:13,700 --> 01:16:15,980 That's how the get down went. 1313 01:16:15,980 --> 01:16:18,340 Yes, Officer Perez. 1314 01:16:18,340 --> 01:16:20,260 He was friends with Suge. 1315 01:16:20,260 --> 01:16:23,100 I seen him up there several, several times. 1316 01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:25,980 Several times, and he was friends with Suge. 1317 01:16:25,980 --> 01:16:28,540 I seen him in uniform and out of uniform, 1318 01:16:28,540 --> 01:16:31,460 and out of uniform, he'd try to be, try to look like he cool and shit. 1319 01:16:31,460 --> 01:16:33,780 He would wear little accents of red, you know. 1320 01:16:33,780 --> 01:16:35,660 You know, like try to fit in. 1321 01:16:35,660 --> 01:16:38,700 I'm like, "Oh, that's what the police do." 1322 01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:42,420 But I never knew that he was a part of that Rampart Division shit 1323 01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:45,460 until I seen him. And out of all the police in the world 1324 01:16:45,460 --> 01:16:48,980 that I remember, I remember him for being up on Death Row. 1325 01:16:48,980 --> 01:16:51,100 And then there's another one, 1326 01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:53,740 the one that they said killed Biggie, right? 1327 01:16:53,740 --> 01:16:55,180 Black too. 1328 01:16:57,820 --> 01:17:00,460 He used to be up there too. 1329 01:17:00,460 --> 01:17:03,780 I don't know if he did this, but the one 1330 01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:08,180 that they had on the nose, he was there a lot. 1331 01:17:10,340 --> 01:17:12,220 Hi. Good morning. 1332 01:17:12,220 --> 01:17:13,660 Very good of you to see us. 1333 01:17:13,660 --> 01:17:15,300 What makes Kading's comments 1334 01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:18,700 about Mack and Perez look especially weak is that even 1335 01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:22,420 Police Chief Bernard Parks himself said they worked for Death Row. 1336 01:17:22,420 --> 01:17:27,020 We know that David Mack and Rafael Perez both worked security 1337 01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:31,140 in this rap culture as it relates to some of these artists. 1338 01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:32,980 But we've had... Death Row. 1339 01:17:32,980 --> 01:17:36,100 Death Row Records, but we have no information, 1340 01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:40,260 nor has any information come forward that would cause us to believe 1341 01:17:40,260 --> 01:17:41,900 that either one of them are suspects. 1342 01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:46,580 If, in our continuing investigation, we uncover facts that we can prove, 1343 01:17:46,580 --> 01:17:49,620 then we will continue moving forward to clear that case. 1344 01:17:49,620 --> 01:17:54,140 But until then, what we've seen so far is merely undocumented 1345 01:17:54,140 --> 01:17:58,220 speculation that has not led to any significant leads. 1346 01:17:58,220 --> 01:18:01,420 It would appear that Police Chief Bernard Parks should have been well 1347 01:18:01,420 --> 01:18:05,060 acquainted with Mack and Perez, according to Xavier Hermosillo. 1348 01:18:05,060 --> 01:18:08,740 One of the most shocking things on that Board of Rights, 1349 01:18:08,740 --> 01:18:12,380 or any that I've ever done in over 30 years, 1350 01:18:12,380 --> 01:18:16,700 was there was a photograph of Rafael Perez and David Mack 1351 01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:21,140 who are the two police officers that were bad, bad, bad news, 1352 01:18:21,140 --> 01:18:24,580 and a woman standing in the middle, and they were all dressed in red 1353 01:18:24,580 --> 01:18:28,420 from head to toe, the hat, whatever, which is the colour of 1354 01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:32,340 the Blood gangs. There's the Crips and their colours are blue. 1355 01:18:32,340 --> 01:18:37,300 And so these guys were dressed in red and they were standing 1356 01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:40,220 behind the table where there was a cake that said something 1357 01:18:40,220 --> 01:18:43,340 about "Bloods rule" or, you know, something like that. 1358 01:18:43,340 --> 01:18:46,300 And I was startled because I recognised the woman. 1359 01:18:46,300 --> 01:18:49,580 And it was the daughter of police chief Bernard Parks, 1360 01:18:49,580 --> 01:18:52,580 who it appeared was a Blood gang member. 1361 01:18:52,580 --> 01:18:55,620 That's... That's incredible. 1362 01:18:55,620 --> 01:18:57,260 Yeah, tell me about it. 1363 01:18:57,260 --> 01:19:01,660 I looked at this thing, I turned to my two partners and I said, 1364 01:19:01,660 --> 01:19:05,140 "Is this what I think it is?" And they said, "Yeah." 1365 01:19:08,060 --> 01:19:10,940 The Biggie Smalls estate lawyers were never able to get a copy 1366 01:19:10,940 --> 01:19:14,860 of this photograph, which mysteriously disappeared. 1367 01:19:14,860 --> 01:19:18,980 It is also alleged that Michelle Parks and Officer Rafael Perez 1368 01:19:18,980 --> 01:19:21,220 were in a dating relationship. 1369 01:19:22,380 --> 01:19:26,300 Officer David Mack was later convicted for this bank robbery. 1370 01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:29,980 It's alleged that on the night of the robbery, Michelle Parks, Mack 1371 01:19:29,980 --> 01:19:33,340 and Perez celebrated at the Rio Hotel in Las Vegas. 1372 01:19:35,540 --> 01:19:37,860 When, on a subsequent occasion, 1373 01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:42,380 Michelle Parks was arrested in Las Vegas for narcotics, 1374 01:19:42,380 --> 01:19:44,780 it is Rafael Perez who posts bail. 1375 01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:52,900 Xavier also mentions the account of this man, Boagni, and another 1376 01:19:52,900 --> 01:19:56,380 cellmate of Officer Perez, who allege Perez took part 1377 01:19:56,380 --> 01:19:58,580 in Biggie's murder and were threatened with death 1378 01:19:58,580 --> 01:20:00,660 if they testified against him. 1379 01:20:00,660 --> 01:20:02,460 I have a great admiration and respect for 1380 01:20:02,460 --> 01:20:05,300 the Los Angeles Police Department, but this is the one time, 1381 01:20:05,300 --> 01:20:08,420 and I've been around the department 40 years 1382 01:20:08,420 --> 01:20:09,780 as a civilian, 1383 01:20:09,780 --> 01:20:13,700 and one of the things that I think bothered me the most 1384 01:20:13,700 --> 01:20:19,540 was how this, this one case, being the murder of Biggie Smalls, 1385 01:20:19,540 --> 01:20:24,020 and everything that emanated from it was really problematic. 1386 01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:27,220 And in this particular case, with these two prisoners, 1387 01:20:27,220 --> 01:20:31,180 they were visited at their prisons 1,000 miles apart and told 1388 01:20:31,180 --> 01:20:34,700 not to come and testify in the Board of Rights hearing 1389 01:20:34,700 --> 01:20:36,180 that I was involved with. 1390 01:20:36,180 --> 01:20:40,420 And they were told that if they did testify, that friends of Perez 1391 01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:44,900 who were in prison would have them killed for testifying, 1392 01:20:44,900 --> 01:20:50,700 for "snitching". That I found to be just abhorrent, just illegal. 1393 01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:55,420 And it was LAPD police officers who told them. It was two detectives 1394 01:20:55,420 --> 01:20:59,820 and we heard it for the first time when Boagni, Kenny Boagni, 1395 01:20:59,820 --> 01:21:04,020 sort of blurted it out. I asked him a question and he started, 1396 01:21:04,020 --> 01:21:06,060 you know, kind of shaking a little bit. 1397 01:21:06,060 --> 01:21:08,060 And then the advocate for the department, 1398 01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:09,700 who was like the prosecutor, 1399 01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:11,940 he jumps up and he gets in his face and he says, 1400 01:21:11,940 --> 01:21:14,740 "Keep your mouth shut. You were told not to talk about that." 1401 01:21:14,740 --> 01:21:16,540 That was so unreal. 1402 01:21:16,540 --> 01:21:19,020 I'd never seen that in all the years 1403 01:21:19,020 --> 01:21:21,540 of being involved with the department. 1404 01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:30,020 Shortly afterwards, I received a phone call from Boagni, 1405 01:21:30,020 --> 01:21:33,460 who is currently serving a 40-year sentence in state prison. 1406 01:21:33,460 --> 01:21:37,500 This call is from an inmate at a federal prison. 1407 01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:41,780 So are you saying that Suge Knight was behind the hit, though? 1408 01:21:49,940 --> 01:21:54,580 So which, which... Which officers are you saying were implicated 1409 01:21:54,580 --> 01:21:57,220 in the murder of Biggie Smalls? 1410 01:21:57,220 --> 01:22:00,060 This call and/or telephone number will be monitored and recorded. 1411 01:22:23,140 --> 01:22:27,420 It is this testimony from Boagni that is concealed by the LAPD 1412 01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:30,060 and kept from the Biggie Smalls lawyers. 1413 01:22:30,060 --> 01:22:33,980 The LAPD will be fined $1.1 million by a US district judge 1414 01:22:33,980 --> 01:22:36,020 for concealing evidence. 1415 01:22:49,220 --> 01:22:53,300 However, it's Kading's unfounded theory that over time, with podcasts 1416 01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:56,780 and TV shows, is accepted as valid today. 1417 01:22:56,780 --> 01:23:00,300 Whereas Russell Poole, an outstanding police officer 1418 01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:03,140 for 20 years, is discredited and ostracised. 1419 01:23:04,860 --> 01:23:09,380 I mean, I almost took my life, but it was my kids 1420 01:23:09,380 --> 01:23:12,220 that actually saved me, OK? 1421 01:23:12,220 --> 01:23:16,660 And it hurt. I was betrayed by my own department 1422 01:23:16,660 --> 01:23:21,540 because of the core values that the Los Angeles Police Department 1423 01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:23,260 preached from day one. 1424 01:23:23,260 --> 01:23:24,980 Honesty, integrity. 1425 01:23:26,780 --> 01:23:28,620 OK, tell the truth. 1426 01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:35,020 Swear to tell the truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God. 1427 01:23:35,020 --> 01:23:38,220 Do a good job, do a thorough investigation, 1428 01:23:38,220 --> 01:23:42,260 work for the community. I believed in the oath of office. 1429 01:23:43,460 --> 01:23:47,300 I believed in protecting and serving the people. 1430 01:23:47,300 --> 01:23:48,940 I really did. 1431 01:23:48,940 --> 01:23:54,180 But on the inside, behind closed doors, that it wasn't the case. 1432 01:23:54,180 --> 01:23:59,100 When it came to cops being investigated, 1433 01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:02,380 we weren't serving the public the way we should have 1434 01:24:02,380 --> 01:24:04,700 served the public. And when I'm assigned... 1435 01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:08,060 Solving these murders would dominate Russell's life. 1436 01:24:08,060 --> 01:24:11,780 He died tragically of a heart attack at LA sheriff's headquarters 1437 01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:14,220 during a meeting about the Biggie Smalls murder. 1438 01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:18,020 ..not be suppressed and kept away from the public. 1439 01:24:18,020 --> 01:24:21,100 A lot of what Russ Poole did, telling you right now, 1440 01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:24,700 that guy was legit. For people to say that he was 1441 01:24:24,700 --> 01:24:27,940 a disgraced detective, it's not fair. 1442 01:24:27,940 --> 01:24:29,420 The guy knew what he was doing. 1443 01:24:29,420 --> 01:24:32,620 He was, he was actually a good cop and they did what they could 1444 01:24:32,620 --> 01:24:35,460 to shut him down. And I know a lot of people like to say, 1445 01:24:35,460 --> 01:24:37,300 "Oh, he keeps going down this theory..." 1446 01:24:37,300 --> 01:24:39,940 No, his theory is correct. 1447 01:24:47,380 --> 01:24:51,780 The only time I met Suge Knight was in 2002, when he was serving nine 1448 01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:56,220 years for the Orlando Anderson fight. Both Kading and Russell 1449 01:24:56,220 --> 01:24:59,420 agree Suge Knight commissioned the Biggie Smalls murder, 1450 01:24:59,420 --> 01:25:02,100 yet he's never been charged. 1451 01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:05,140 When I went to visit him at Mule Creek State Prison, 1452 01:25:05,140 --> 01:25:07,420 Death Row was already collapsing. 1453 01:25:07,420 --> 01:25:10,820 Both Dre and Snoop had left and Suge Knight was trying to manage 1454 01:25:10,820 --> 01:25:12,820 Death Row from prison. 1455 01:25:12,820 --> 01:25:14,660 Oh, OK. 1456 01:25:31,660 --> 01:25:35,220 By now, Suge had mentally moved on to his new enemy, Snoop, 1457 01:25:35,220 --> 01:25:36,820 who had just left Death Row. 1458 01:25:36,820 --> 01:25:39,700 If you hear about a lot of the artists, used to be someone 1459 01:25:39,700 --> 01:25:44,100 used to be on Death Row, someone on other labels, you might hear them 1460 01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:46,140 getting caught with drugs, 1461 01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:49,380 getting caught with a gun, stab somebody, do those type of crimes, 1462 01:25:49,380 --> 01:25:51,220 they're not going to come to prison. 1463 01:25:51,220 --> 01:25:54,420 One reason... You mean like Snoop. Snoop would never come. 1464 01:25:54,420 --> 01:25:56,940 I mean, Snoop was... We'd be at the murder trial for him 1465 01:25:56,940 --> 01:25:58,580 but then he was on probation, 1466 01:25:58,580 --> 01:26:01,180 then he got caught with 2oz of marijuana. 1467 01:26:01,180 --> 01:26:02,540 Then he get caught with guns. 1468 01:26:02,540 --> 01:26:05,060 And each time it's nothing, they're not going to violate him, 1469 01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:07,980 because for the street guys, street guys know what I'm talking about. 1470 01:26:07,980 --> 01:26:09,220 There's no puzzle. 1471 01:26:09,220 --> 01:26:11,740 I mean, if you get a guy that's constantly getting in trouble 1472 01:26:11,740 --> 01:26:14,580 and never going to prison, that's because he's an informer, 1473 01:26:14,580 --> 01:26:16,420 he's a rat, a snitch, you know. 1474 01:26:16,420 --> 01:26:20,500 And they more important to the police on the streets than in here 1475 01:26:20,500 --> 01:26:22,740 because they let them know what's going on. 1476 01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:25,300 They might save their soul by telling on three or four 1477 01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:27,940 or five other guys. You know, I'm from Compton. 1478 01:26:27,940 --> 01:26:30,740 A rat is the lowest you can go, a rat will do anything. 1479 01:26:30,740 --> 01:26:32,980 This was Suge's message to Snoop. 1480 01:26:32,980 --> 01:26:34,300 BARKING 1481 01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:35,700 GUNFIRE 1482 01:26:35,700 --> 01:26:36,740 WHIMPERS 1483 01:26:57,340 --> 01:27:02,540 When Suge got back out in 2001, you know, he changed the name 1484 01:27:02,540 --> 01:27:04,340 to Tha Row. 1485 01:27:04,340 --> 01:27:07,620 It never rose, it never prospered at all. 1486 01:27:08,780 --> 01:27:12,620 Suge was just living off of Death Row reputation. He was living 1487 01:27:12,620 --> 01:27:17,100 off of the reputation of people that wasn't even alive no more. 1488 01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:20,420 So I left Death Row in, like, 2002. 1489 01:27:20,420 --> 01:27:23,660 It was really over with, it was just like... 1490 01:27:23,660 --> 01:27:26,980 To me, it was just like a little gang hang-out. 1491 01:27:35,180 --> 01:27:38,300 Once Suge lost everything, he lost everything, he lost his accountants, 1492 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:41,740 he lost everything, he didn't have nobody really on his side. 1493 01:27:41,740 --> 01:27:44,580 And Jimmy Iovine, them, they businessmen. 1494 01:27:44,580 --> 01:27:46,460 They was consistently getting the money. 1495 01:27:53,780 --> 01:27:56,220 Where did all the money end up? 1496 01:27:56,220 --> 01:28:00,420 I don't know, I know a fool and his money shall soon part. 1497 01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:03,500 I know that the fool lost his money. 1498 01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:06,740 From doing foolish things. That's Suge. 1499 01:28:06,740 --> 01:28:10,420 We know the big boys got the bag, they took the bag. 1500 01:28:11,780 --> 01:28:15,460 David Kading ain't... I guarantee you David ain't broke. 1501 01:28:15,460 --> 01:28:19,300 Ted Field, come on, that's Marshall Field's brother. 1502 01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:23,580 The Seagrams family is intertwined in that. 1503 01:28:23,580 --> 01:28:25,900 They not broke. 1504 01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,060 But, you know, Suge was standing up in the wrong way 1505 01:28:29,060 --> 01:28:30,460 to the wrong people. 1506 01:28:31,940 --> 01:28:37,380 You know, you can't, you can't scare Jimmy Iovine. Don't even make sense. 1507 01:28:37,380 --> 01:28:41,860 That's coming from the east to the west. 1508 01:28:41,860 --> 01:28:45,740 This is my homeboy right here, you know what I'm saying? 1509 01:28:45,740 --> 01:28:49,380 My PO let me out here but fuck with me, my niggas went to war, 1510 01:28:49,380 --> 01:28:51,140 but this my nigga. This like my brother. 1511 01:28:51,140 --> 01:28:54,060 I'ma fuck niggas up behind the homeboy, nigga. 1512 01:28:54,060 --> 01:28:56,420 Suge money wasn't the way it was no more. 1513 01:28:56,420 --> 01:28:59,340 You know, he wasn't making no more money. 1514 01:28:59,340 --> 01:29:02,260 So when he wasn't making no more money, the people that he wanted 1515 01:29:02,260 --> 01:29:03,620 to get from the neighbourhood, 1516 01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:05,820 he wouldn't have. 1517 01:29:05,820 --> 01:29:08,180 So they started dropping off. 1518 01:29:08,180 --> 01:29:12,100 And that's why a lot of times you just see Suge, he's by himself. 1519 01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:17,580 And once the people on the street seen that, 1520 01:29:17,580 --> 01:29:19,660 they start attacking Suge. 1521 01:29:19,660 --> 01:29:21,820 GUNFIRE 1522 01:29:47,260 --> 01:29:49,220 He got shot at Chris Brown's party. 1523 01:29:49,220 --> 01:29:50,660 He got knocked out. 1524 01:29:54,820 --> 01:29:58,060 Some people was like, you know what I'm saying, you ain't nothing. 1525 01:30:00,460 --> 01:30:02,300 I mean, things start to happen to him 1526 01:30:02,300 --> 01:30:04,940 that would never would have happened. 1527 01:30:04,940 --> 01:30:06,900 It's just like Moses. 1528 01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:11,420 Moses had a veil, he didn't want nobody to see that the light 1529 01:30:11,420 --> 01:30:13,260 was gone on his face. 1530 01:30:13,260 --> 01:30:17,580 So Suge veil start to... appear that these people 1531 01:30:17,580 --> 01:30:20,380 wasn't behind him no more, 1532 01:30:20,380 --> 01:30:22,860 so the people weren't scared no more. 1533 01:30:22,860 --> 01:30:27,780 All I know is none of the guys that was working for Death Row 1534 01:30:27,780 --> 01:30:30,700 got a house, didn't get a car out of it. 1535 01:30:33,820 --> 01:30:38,060 Don't have a big bank account, everybody it's just back... 1536 01:30:38,060 --> 01:30:40,060 It's like the Cinderella story, 1537 01:30:40,060 --> 01:30:42,860 12 o'clock everything changed back into the same thing, 1538 01:30:42,860 --> 01:30:44,220 changed back into what it is. 1539 01:30:44,220 --> 01:30:45,980 That's how it is in Compton. 1540 01:30:45,980 --> 01:30:48,620 Everybody just changed back into what they were. 1541 01:30:48,620 --> 01:30:52,340 You know what I'm saying? It was good, Tupac... 1542 01:30:52,340 --> 01:30:56,820 Death Row, they had Tupac for 11 months, I think, and... 1543 01:30:56,820 --> 01:30:59,580 ..everybody was good, but soon as he passed, 1544 01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:01,420 everybody turned back into... 1545 01:31:03,620 --> 01:31:06,060 ..just a regular old cat in the neighbourhood. 1546 01:31:06,060 --> 01:31:09,540 It was all gone, from rags to riches to worse. 1547 01:31:11,140 --> 01:31:13,140 Or to the dirt. 1548 01:31:15,300 --> 01:31:18,940 This is Rosecrans and Atlantic, I believe this is still Compton. 1549 01:31:18,940 --> 01:31:21,740 Looks like more than likely they were shot while trying 1550 01:31:21,740 --> 01:31:23,380 to fill up their car with gas. 1551 01:31:23,380 --> 01:31:27,180 Suge Knight, struggling to maintain control, created a rivalry 1552 01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:30,740 between his own Blood gang members, who started killing each other. 1553 01:31:30,740 --> 01:31:35,340 A lot of them died for him, including my brother. 1554 01:31:35,340 --> 01:31:39,180 Some guys got out a van and AK'd him down. 1555 01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:46,940 I think he got shot nine times, ten times and he was laying there. 1556 01:31:48,940 --> 01:31:51,180 I seen the scene so many times, 1557 01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:55,500 I've seen what happened to him so many times, you know... 1558 01:31:57,140 --> 01:32:00,100 ..I can say I can't even imagine that somebody would do him 1559 01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,300 like that, but that's how we was living. 1560 01:32:02,300 --> 01:32:04,900 That's the shit we was doing when we was doing drive-bys. 1561 01:32:04,900 --> 01:32:07,820 That's the shit that I lived for, 1562 01:32:07,820 --> 01:32:11,060 that I had to go out and live like that. 1563 01:32:11,060 --> 01:32:14,020 So, seeing my brother, 1564 01:32:14,020 --> 01:32:17,180 it was, it was so different. 1565 01:32:17,180 --> 01:32:23,060 It was like, I had to step outside of myself and to see him 1566 01:32:23,060 --> 01:32:25,900 laying there with his eyes open and just... 1567 01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:29,860 I had, I had so much anger in me. 1568 01:32:34,020 --> 01:32:35,660 This is... 1569 01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:42,380 It's rough talking about him. 1570 01:32:42,380 --> 01:32:46,820 Every time they mention his name, I get choked up. 1571 01:32:53,660 --> 01:32:57,180 The pain is, is, is this cold feeling. 1572 01:33:08,140 --> 01:33:11,940 But I guess in a way, his death gave you something. Huh? 1573 01:33:11,940 --> 01:33:15,860 His death gave you something too. It taught me a lot. 1574 01:33:15,860 --> 01:33:20,740 It gave me a better understanding of my self-destruction, 1575 01:33:20,740 --> 01:33:23,140 what I was doing to other people. 1576 01:33:24,820 --> 01:33:27,940 I know there's somebody right now, that they feeling the same way 1577 01:33:27,940 --> 01:33:30,340 about their brother, you know what I'm saying? 1578 01:33:30,340 --> 01:33:35,180 And, you know, I can't do nothing but apologise for the way I lived. 1579 01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:40,020 And I'm trying to make it better. I'm trying to help people. 1580 01:33:54,660 --> 01:33:57,900 Karma's a motherfucker. 1581 01:33:57,900 --> 01:34:01,380 And he's paying for it. If you ever been in prison, you ain't got 1582 01:34:01,380 --> 01:34:05,460 nothing time to think, especially when you sitting in that damn cell. 1583 01:34:05,460 --> 01:34:09,740 You're going to think about every one of those guys that's dead. 1584 01:34:09,740 --> 01:34:15,180 Your Biggies, your Herons, your Hen Dogs, your Chins, your Buntrys. 1585 01:34:15,180 --> 01:34:19,940 You're going to think about all of these guys that lost their lives. 1586 01:34:27,380 --> 01:34:31,700 People felt freer to talk once Suge commenced his sentence. 1587 01:34:31,700 --> 01:34:35,500 Many of the people who witnessed Biggie's killing that night 1588 01:34:35,500 --> 01:34:37,540 have kept a secret for 24 years. 1589 01:34:37,540 --> 01:34:39,780 I didn't want to do interviews for years. 1590 01:34:39,780 --> 01:34:41,180 It was dangerous. 1591 01:34:41,180 --> 01:34:43,620 It's dangerous to know anything. 1592 01:34:52,620 --> 01:34:55,700 I was there that night Biggie got killed 1593 01:34:55,700 --> 01:34:59,460 and so were some of the LAPD officers we talked about. 1594 01:35:01,300 --> 01:35:05,140 I would put money on LAPD's involvement, you know. 1595 01:35:05,140 --> 01:35:07,420 They're all not on the force any more 1596 01:35:07,420 --> 01:35:09,140 so I guess it doesn't matter. 1597 01:35:09,140 --> 01:35:14,180 Did you see David Mack and Perez at the event 1598 01:35:14,180 --> 01:35:16,740 at the... They were all there. 1599 01:35:19,580 --> 01:35:24,580 Yes, they were there. Because the LAPD now have sort of come up 1600 01:35:24,580 --> 01:35:29,140 with a whole other theory. Mm. Outside of the police. 1601 01:35:29,140 --> 01:35:32,980 Yeah. I'm sure they did. What's their theory? 1602 01:35:32,980 --> 01:35:37,260 That a gang member called Poochie shot and killed Biggie. 1603 01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:41,940 You know, really, it doesn't matter who pulled the trigger, 1604 01:35:41,940 --> 01:35:45,020 although I wouldn't agree with that, 1605 01:35:45,020 --> 01:35:49,220 but what I would say is any gang member that was to shoot 1606 01:35:49,220 --> 01:35:52,300 or kill Biggie could have only done so 1607 01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:55,540 with police involvement and support. 1608 01:35:55,540 --> 01:35:57,140 It would have been impossible. 1609 01:35:57,140 --> 01:35:59,220 They were everywhere. 1610 01:35:59,220 --> 01:36:02,420 It was... You don't have an event that's a party 1611 01:36:02,420 --> 01:36:05,500 after the Soul Train Awards and especially in LA 1612 01:36:05,500 --> 01:36:07,940 and there's that many black people 1613 01:36:07,940 --> 01:36:09,820 and you think the police aren't everywhere, 1614 01:36:09,820 --> 01:36:12,340 they're everywhere. Doesn't work that way. 1615 01:36:12,340 --> 01:36:14,420 So there has to be compliance. 1616 01:36:16,620 --> 01:36:19,980 They were, they were complicit in everything that happened 1617 01:36:19,980 --> 01:36:22,140 that had to do with Death Row. 1618 01:36:23,540 --> 01:36:27,140 I hold the police department responsible for so much. 1619 01:36:38,380 --> 01:36:40,940 What up? Ready, nigga? 1620 01:36:40,940 --> 01:36:43,060 Ready for that raw dog shit, nigga? 1621 01:36:43,060 --> 01:36:45,100 OK. All right. 1622 01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:48,340 And this is how the heads should meet. You want to set it off? 1623 01:36:48,340 --> 01:36:50,460 I'm scared to do some freestyle. 1624 01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:53,340 I'm scared to do some freestyle flow, 1625 01:36:53,340 --> 01:36:56,100 I'm too high and I might go off tempo, 1626 01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:58,820 but now I'm back to let these niggas know just how deep 1627 01:36:58,820 --> 01:37:01,340 my game run, Tupacalypse don't sleep. 1628 01:37:01,340 --> 01:37:04,580 I keep a motherfucking Glock in my car if I'm all in the club, 1629 01:37:04,580 --> 01:37:06,820 I got to be the fucking star... 1630 01:37:06,820 --> 01:37:10,260 Biggie didn't give a fuck, Tupac didn't give a fuck. 1631 01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:13,100 It's fucked up that the cause of their deaths 1632 01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:15,580 is behind the pettiest shit on the planet. 1633 01:37:15,580 --> 01:37:18,700 Money holds the clothes, blood smoke coming out the nose 1634 01:37:18,700 --> 01:37:21,020 is all a nigga knows, flipping off foes, 1635 01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:23,700 putting tags on toes, watching the stash grow, 1636 01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:25,340 clocking the cash flow. 1637 01:37:25,340 --> 01:37:26,460 They were buddy buddies. 1638 01:37:26,460 --> 01:37:29,180 They were, they were street buddies. 1639 01:37:29,180 --> 01:37:31,540 At the time of Tupac's death, 1640 01:37:31,540 --> 01:37:35,700 I think they were still buddies, because when I told my son 1641 01:37:35,700 --> 01:37:39,740 that Tupac died, I could see the pain in his eyes. 1642 01:37:39,740 --> 01:37:42,780 ..drive a fat-ass truck, grab the nine, two clips and run amok. 1643 01:37:42,780 --> 01:37:45,460 It sometimes brings me to tears 1644 01:37:45,460 --> 01:37:48,060 just thinking about what could have been. 1645 01:37:48,060 --> 01:37:49,860 Where would we be right now 1646 01:37:49,860 --> 01:37:55,180 if they both were alive. The world lost someone that could have made 1647 01:37:55,180 --> 01:37:57,140 quite a difference. 1648 01:37:57,140 --> 01:37:58,500 Peace and love. 136378

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