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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,103 Architecture affects everybody, 2 00:01:32,201 --> 00:01:34,893 from the hospital where you're born, to the schools, 3 00:01:36,010 --> 00:01:41,000 and the grocery stores, markets, libraries, theaters. 4 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Every part of a person's life 5 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,013 is based upon an architect's presence. 6 00:01:52,060 --> 00:01:54,020 Architects live and die 7 00:01:54,020 --> 00:01:56,940 by the images that are taken of their work, 8 00:01:56,940 --> 00:02:00,223 as these images alone are what most people see. 9 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:04,110 For every person who visits a private house, 10 00:02:04,110 --> 00:02:08,113 there may be 10,000 who only view it as a photo. 11 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:28,813 I'm looking at the base of the steps. 12 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:32,650 They die into the railing just where the wheel is. 13 00:02:32,650 --> 00:02:33,880 It's perfect. 14 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,060 Photographer Julius Shulman has defined 15 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:38,020 the way we look at modernism. 16 00:02:38,020 --> 00:02:42,170 First focusing his lens upon architecture in the 1930s, 17 00:02:42,170 --> 00:02:44,750 Julius continues to document the evolution 18 00:02:44,750 --> 00:02:49,032 of built environments and architectural forms today. 19 00:02:49,032 --> 00:02:49,865 Print it. 20 00:02:49,865 --> 00:02:51,522 Print. Print it. 21 00:03:08,150 --> 00:03:11,790 You are now in Southern California, 22 00:03:11,790 --> 00:03:13,913 two miles from Hollywood Boulevard. 23 00:03:15,980 --> 00:03:16,813 Listen. 24 00:03:21,925 --> 00:03:24,592 Hear that sound, just the birds. 25 00:03:26,330 --> 00:03:28,840 What more can a man want out of his life? 26 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,763 This is Heaven. 27 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:34,770 Nothing here was planned. 28 00:03:34,770 --> 00:03:38,123 It's a mish-mash, every conceivable kind of plant. 29 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,400 And people don't like this kind of garden. 30 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,540 Matter of fact, many people come here, they say, 31 00:03:43,540 --> 00:03:46,220 boy I'd like to come some morning while you're still asleep 32 00:03:46,220 --> 00:03:48,730 with a machete and chop, chop, chop, chop. 33 00:03:48,730 --> 00:03:50,513 They want to cut back my density. 34 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:53,760 I'd chop your head off if you did that, I said. 35 00:03:55,330 --> 00:03:57,900 By God, this is unbelievable. 36 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:00,590 This tree hasn't blossomed for years. 37 00:04:00,590 --> 00:04:01,810 It's growing in the wrong place. 38 00:04:01,810 --> 00:04:04,262 You don't plan the orange tree in the midst, 39 00:04:04,262 --> 00:04:06,990 when all the other trees are shading it. 40 00:04:06,990 --> 00:04:09,663 And yet, we'll probably have oranges this year. 41 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,673 That is fragrant. Oh. 42 00:04:20,220 --> 00:04:22,633 I don't have to have a physical church. 43 00:04:23,610 --> 00:04:25,910 What can be more beautiful than the church 44 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:30,530 in which you're surrounded entirely by nature? 45 00:04:30,530 --> 00:04:31,833 This is my God. 46 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:37,590 I think it's significant that Julius, 47 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:39,350 after being born in Brooklyn, 48 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:44,350 before coming to the sort of city of Los Angeles, 49 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,940 lived on a farm in Connecticut. 50 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:48,210 And he's talked about this 51 00:04:48,210 --> 00:04:50,900 as being a formative period in his life. 52 00:04:50,900 --> 00:04:55,690 So great was his identity with nature and the woods. 53 00:04:55,690 --> 00:04:57,490 Seven years that we lived on the farm, 54 00:04:57,490 --> 00:04:59,990 until we came to California. 55 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:03,960 My father had an acquaintance who lived in Los Angeles, 56 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,363 telling my father that the streets are paved with gold. 57 00:05:08,660 --> 00:05:11,450 We got on the Santa Fe Railroad, 58 00:05:11,450 --> 00:05:16,450 and took a train across country, five days, five children. 59 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,360 When they moved to Los Angeles, 60 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,880 my father had his own room. 61 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,993 He said that his mother saw something in him. 62 00:05:24,890 --> 00:05:26,423 History is strange. 63 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,393 Here, it becomes mystical. 64 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:35,723 I was ordained to become a photographer. I was destined. 65 00:05:37,010 --> 00:05:41,070 He had a very inquisitive eye, navigating the environment, 66 00:05:41,070 --> 00:05:46,070 whether it was people, or social events, or sporting events. 67 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,800 I took a photograph. 68 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,600 And my teacher observed that their heads 69 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,123 are all below the line of the second hurdle. 70 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,583 He said, Julius, that's a very professional photograph. 71 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:06,893 Here is a Eastman Kodak camera. 72 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:10,530 It's a great gift to give to somebody 73 00:06:10,530 --> 00:06:12,543 who was 23 years old at the time. 74 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,060 And I have this vision of him wandering around, 75 00:06:17,060 --> 00:06:22,060 whether it's in the hills, or wandering around town, 76 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:25,040 seeing the world through his camera. 77 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,800 You know if you're able to gather into one big picture, 78 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,840 all the small pictures that he took of Los Angeles 79 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:34,480 prior to his involvement in architectural photography, 80 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,480 you really get a sense of a pulse of the city. 81 00:06:45,580 --> 00:06:47,190 I think that it's just 82 00:06:47,190 --> 00:06:49,700 a beautiful way of thinking of my dad 83 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:52,680 and Los Angeles as siblings. 84 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,763 They really did grow up together. 85 00:06:58,540 --> 00:07:01,610 He didn't know precisely what he wanted to do, 86 00:07:01,610 --> 00:07:04,200 but he also knew what he didn't want, 87 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,330 which was just to sort of follow some conventional path. 88 00:07:07,330 --> 00:07:09,520 And it seems as if his early life was about 89 00:07:10,530 --> 00:07:13,740 muddling along until he found that niche for himself. 90 00:07:13,740 --> 00:07:15,900 And part of that muddling along involved 91 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:17,260 going to seven years of college, 92 00:07:17,260 --> 00:07:19,303 from which he didn't even get a degree. 93 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:22,390 At the end of the seven years, 94 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:24,980 I woke up early in the morning at three o'clock, 95 00:07:24,980 --> 00:07:28,560 and I said, wait a minute, what am I doing here? 96 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,280 I've been going to university for seven years. 97 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,950 I think I've had enough. 98 00:07:32,950 --> 00:07:36,073 And he drifted back to Los Angeles, unclear, 99 00:07:36,073 --> 00:07:38,700 but not like a hopeless case, 100 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:41,460 a person with an incredible creative spirit 101 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:43,657 that just needed a channel for it. 102 00:07:47,330 --> 00:07:50,580 Our guest is an environmentalist, 103 00:07:50,580 --> 00:07:52,750 photographer, who has made his reputation, 104 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:54,843 I guess we could say in architecture. 105 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,330 Julius Schumann. 106 00:07:57,330 --> 00:08:01,120 Julius, this photograph of Richard Neutra, 107 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,860 where you in architecture then? 108 00:08:03,860 --> 00:08:06,480 Yes, I began my architectural photography, 109 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,600 coincidentally, by doing a photograph of one of 110 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,100 Mr. Neutra's houses in 1936 with a vest pocket Kodak. 111 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:19,010 And this was a rather curious experience because I had 112 00:08:19,010 --> 00:08:21,010 not even seen a modern house before. 113 00:08:21,010 --> 00:08:23,660 But this was one I visited with a young draftsman. 114 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:24,680 I made some eight by 10s 115 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,290 I gave to the young man, who showed them to Neutra. 116 00:08:26,290 --> 00:08:29,240 I got a phone call, and within a week I was a photographer. 117 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Opus one, my first architectural. March, 1936. 118 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:40,650 When they met Neutra was, I believe, 44 years old. 119 00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:43,613 Schulman would have been almost two decades younger. 120 00:08:45,516 --> 00:08:49,217 Neutra quickly recognized that perhaps he could 121 00:08:51,620 --> 00:08:55,380 find someone who might be far cheaper, 122 00:08:55,380 --> 00:08:57,400 perhaps more malleable. 123 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,750 He would have seen 124 00:08:59,650 --> 00:09:04,650 the ability that was nascent there in Julius, 125 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,340 and seeing it as something that could be helpful to himself, 126 00:09:09,340 --> 00:09:13,903 and to the other architects that needed to be documented. 127 00:09:15,550 --> 00:09:17,360 Modernism began in Chicago, 128 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,020 when Louis Sullivan stated form follows function. 129 00:09:21,020 --> 00:09:22,370 In the age of steel, 130 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:25,590 big windows and taller buildings were possible. 131 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:27,800 In Vienna, Otto Wagner proclaimed 132 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,480 that the machine age should have a style of its own, 133 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,650 and launch the Vienna Succession. 134 00:09:32,650 --> 00:09:35,470 While Adolph Loos, a Sullivan devotee, 135 00:09:35,470 --> 00:09:37,570 denounced ornament is crime. 136 00:09:37,570 --> 00:09:40,130 The greatest disciple ins Sullivan's Chicago office 137 00:09:40,130 --> 00:09:42,050 was Frank Lloyd Wright, who balanced 138 00:09:42,050 --> 00:09:44,740 machine age functionality with the harmony of nature. 139 00:09:44,740 --> 00:09:47,660 In 1911, Frank Lloyd Wright's vast portfolio 140 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:50,380 took Europe by storm, which greatly influenced 141 00:09:50,380 --> 00:09:52,320 young Rudolph Schindler, and Richard Neutra, 142 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,463 both students of Loos. 143 00:09:54,620 --> 00:09:56,530 Loos told Schindler and Neutra to seek out 144 00:09:56,530 --> 00:10:00,163 Wright in Chicago, so Schindler set forth in 1914. 145 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,490 After serving in the first World War, 146 00:10:03,490 --> 00:10:06,940 Neutra went in Berlin to work for architect Eric Mendelsohn, 147 00:10:06,940 --> 00:10:09,930 just as Germany founded the Bauhaus School of Design, 148 00:10:09,930 --> 00:10:12,340 and Le Corbusier was pioneering his theories 149 00:10:12,340 --> 00:10:15,930 resulting in towards a new architecture. 150 00:10:15,930 --> 00:10:19,400 Richard Neutra left Berlin to work with Frank Lloyd Wright 151 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,360 at the Taliesin studio in Wisconsin. 152 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,300 In 1920, Frank Lloyd Wright built the Hollyhock House 153 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:27,800 under the supervision of Schindler. 154 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,180 Richard and Dion Neutra 155 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:32,440 joined Schindler in Los Angeles in 1925. 156 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,830 Together, Schindler and Neutra founded 157 00:10:34,830 --> 00:10:37,243 Southern California modernism. 158 00:10:38,110 --> 00:10:39,790 Schindler comes out here, and becomes 159 00:10:39,790 --> 00:10:42,070 the project architect on the house that we're sitting in, 160 00:10:42,070 --> 00:10:43,610 The Frank Lloyd Wright Freeman House. 161 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:46,220 Not only did he oversee the construction of this house, 162 00:10:46,220 --> 00:10:48,820 but he designed myriad number of pieces 163 00:10:48,820 --> 00:10:51,110 of furniture for this house. 164 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:54,480 He melded, I think, influences, 165 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,420 Frank Lloyd Wright, European modernism, with then his own, 166 00:10:59,420 --> 00:11:04,150 I think, idiosyncratic approach to architecture. 167 00:11:04,150 --> 00:11:07,100 So in 1922, he built his own house, 168 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,420 which was a communal house, 169 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:11,900 very, very daring and adventurous. 170 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:14,660 Two couples each with their own studios, 171 00:11:14,660 --> 00:11:18,130 personal studios, and communal space. 172 00:11:18,130 --> 00:11:18,963 That's where he lived. 173 00:11:18,963 --> 00:11:23,320 And then when Neutra came here from Europe, he an his Dion 174 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,863 lived upstairs in one of those screened porches. 175 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,090 Notice these walls, prepoured concrete slabs. 176 00:11:31,090 --> 00:11:32,393 They're sloping inward. 177 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:36,620 And Schindler design the spaces to admit sunlight 178 00:11:36,620 --> 00:11:39,363 between the slabs of concrete. 179 00:11:39,363 --> 00:11:44,363 When I walked into the room, there is Mr. Schindler, 180 00:11:44,609 --> 00:11:48,920 sitting at his desk in that corner. 181 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,800 He waved at me. He knew I was coming. 182 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,563 I was asked to photograph one of his houses. 183 00:11:55,730 --> 00:11:58,810 When I came back and showed Schindler the prints, 184 00:11:58,810 --> 00:12:02,970 he said, Shulman, the light you used was 185 00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:07,240 so basically the same on both walls. 186 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,850 That's not natural. 187 00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:10,980 Look around this room. 188 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:15,980 The light is different, there than it is on this wall. 189 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,483 But when you photograph the Dougherty House in Santa Monica, 190 00:12:21,830 --> 00:12:26,540 you used floodlights, and you got the same value of light 191 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:29,500 on this wall as you have on that wall. 192 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:32,320 He gave me that wonderful correction, 193 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,543 which I adapted, the next house I did. 194 00:12:36,452 --> 00:12:37,285 And I think that for me, 195 00:12:37,285 --> 00:12:39,850 one of the really profound things about Schindler, 196 00:12:39,850 --> 00:12:43,100 is that he takes three dimensional space and he 197 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:46,017 incorporates time, which is where light comes in. 198 00:12:46,017 --> 00:12:48,880 And it kind of, it's the passage of time 199 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,675 that makes you understand space. 200 00:12:50,675 --> 00:12:53,240 That's very good. That's very accurate too. 201 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,027 It wasn't just an indoor, outdoor living. 202 00:12:55,027 --> 00:12:57,603 It was a sensitivity to a lifestyle. 203 00:12:59,635 --> 00:13:02,430 Mark Schindler, hi. 204 00:13:02,430 --> 00:13:03,547 Nice to see you. 205 00:13:04,498 --> 00:13:07,266 You know Julius, of course. Known you for a long time. 206 00:13:07,266 --> 00:13:08,736 I'm Mark Schindler. 207 00:13:08,736 --> 00:13:11,873 Oh my God, I didn't recognize you. 208 00:13:11,873 --> 00:13:15,283 You know, you look like the old man, except the hair. 209 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,113 Sit down for a while. 210 00:13:17,113 --> 00:13:19,520 Yeah, have a seat. Pull up a chair. 211 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,340 I'm so glad you can come here today. 212 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:22,873 This is nice. It's a treat. 213 00:13:24,230 --> 00:13:27,680 Even though, as I complain, it's empty, no furniture. 214 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:28,513 But nonetheless, 215 00:13:28,513 --> 00:13:31,113 the spirit of Schindler is always around here, 216 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:34,840 which is where much of the controversies 217 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,680 arose between Schindler and Paul Ling. 218 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:42,410 He didn't know how to design a kitchen for modern living. 219 00:13:42,410 --> 00:13:44,400 Well, my father never used the kitchen. 220 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,713 Yeah, exactly. 221 00:13:46,788 --> 00:13:48,830 There you go. All right. 222 00:13:48,830 --> 00:13:50,340 Women were meant to do all the cooking, 223 00:13:50,340 --> 00:13:52,543 but apart from that, it was very democratic. 224 00:13:54,101 --> 00:13:57,480 The first, one of the first, people to move in 225 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,983 was Richard Neutra and his wife. 226 00:14:01,010 --> 00:14:04,840 At the very beginning, Schindler and Neutra were friends, 227 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,510 until Neutra managed to get a commission 228 00:14:07,510 --> 00:14:10,580 from Schindler's best client, to do by far 229 00:14:10,580 --> 00:14:13,486 the largest house than either of them had ever done. 230 00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:16,810 And that put an end to their collaboration, 231 00:14:16,810 --> 00:14:17,643 their friendship. 232 00:14:17,643 --> 00:14:21,310 So they really saw each other only intermittently. 233 00:14:21,310 --> 00:14:25,300 And my father had a heart attack in 1950. 234 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:28,030 And when he arrived in the room, 235 00:14:28,030 --> 00:14:31,310 they're in the same room was Schindler, 236 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:33,563 who was dying of pancreatic cancer. 237 00:14:34,630 --> 00:14:37,010 They spent about a week together, 238 00:14:37,010 --> 00:14:39,513 kind of exchanging changing old times. 239 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:44,193 And there was a kind of a closure. 240 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,070 Neutra was a terrific self promoter, 241 00:14:52,070 --> 00:14:56,560 a terrific engine for getting the word across. 242 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,930 It wasn't ideology. It was business. 243 00:14:58,930 --> 00:15:02,320 And Julius, of course, helped him there. 244 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,010 Because Julius has a great eye, 245 00:15:06,010 --> 00:15:08,590 a great sense of composition. 246 00:15:08,590 --> 00:15:11,180 Julius moved into a position 247 00:15:11,180 --> 00:15:15,210 of finding his own voice in photography, 248 00:15:15,210 --> 00:15:19,300 to the extent even that he sometimes irritated Neutra. 249 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:21,710 Neutra could be very overbearing. 250 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:23,580 Julius could be very stubborn. 251 00:15:23,580 --> 00:15:25,920 And so you had to reach a middle ground. 252 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,720 Sometimes I was cast into the role of ambassador. 253 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,920 Here are two 254 00:15:32,220 --> 00:15:37,220 very self absorbed, very creative, very strong willed men. 255 00:15:42,090 --> 00:15:43,830 My father would carry 256 00:15:43,830 --> 00:15:47,150 half of our household furniture around with him, 257 00:15:47,150 --> 00:15:50,560 which probably gave Richard Neutra a heard attack, 258 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,350 when he saw my father drive up with all these props, 259 00:15:54,350 --> 00:15:55,600 because they would 260 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,960 despoil his pure, pristine architecture. 261 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:01,860 But my father wanted to make it look like 262 00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:03,530 people actually lived there. 263 00:16:03,530 --> 00:16:06,400 My job was to help move the furniture around, 264 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,980 or hold the archetypal eucalyptus branch, 265 00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:13,090 much to Julius's disgust. 266 00:16:13,090 --> 00:16:14,200 Julius told me once he was 267 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,735 setting up this photograph and all of a sudden there was 268 00:16:16,735 --> 00:16:18,720 this thing wiggling in the upper right hand corner. 269 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,553 He didn't know what the heck it was. 270 00:16:19,553 --> 00:16:21,950 And it was Neutra holding up a branch. 271 00:16:21,950 --> 00:16:25,890 Neutra would collect branches of trees and plants, 272 00:16:25,890 --> 00:16:29,410 and hold them in sort of over the camera, 273 00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:32,223 to give the impression, not always convincing, 274 00:16:32,223 --> 00:16:37,170 but that there was vegetation here. 275 00:16:37,170 --> 00:16:39,340 As I got to be in my teenage years, 276 00:16:39,340 --> 00:16:40,910 either I became more perceptive, 277 00:16:40,910 --> 00:16:43,380 or maybe the relationship changed some. 278 00:16:43,380 --> 00:16:48,030 But I remember more sort of arguments happening, 279 00:16:48,030 --> 00:16:51,560 and my father grumbling on the way home about how hard 280 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,460 it was to get Shulman to do what he wanted him to do. 281 00:16:55,460 --> 00:16:56,750 When I was photographing 282 00:16:56,750 --> 00:16:59,400 the Neutra Kaufman House in Palm Springs, 283 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,250 I took my camera on my shoulder, 284 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:03,810 and I started going outside. 285 00:17:03,810 --> 00:17:06,040 Neutra asked me, where are you going, Shulman? 286 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,890 He clenched my arm. 287 00:17:07,890 --> 00:17:11,120 And I broke free, and ran outside, and set the camera. 288 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:13,600 After the house was published, 289 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Neutra was once interviewed by a photography magazine. 290 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,670 In the interview he said, when I directed Mr. Shulman 291 00:17:22,670 --> 00:17:26,433 to take that photograph, this is what came out. 292 00:17:27,930 --> 00:17:30,860 However critical he might have been at times of Neutra's 293 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:37,450 behavior, he never wavered in his acknowledgement 294 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:43,730 of Neutra as the major figure, the major person 295 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,781 who persuaded him first, and then 296 00:17:46,781 --> 00:17:49,930 taught him how to photograph buildings. 297 00:17:49,930 --> 00:17:51,010 Neutra had me come here 298 00:17:51,010 --> 00:17:54,853 to photograph Mrs. Miller's house, which was brand new then. 299 00:17:56,170 --> 00:17:59,090 I like this paving. This is gonna be kept open? 300 00:17:59,923 --> 00:18:00,950 Desert landscaping? 301 00:18:00,950 --> 00:18:02,520 Yes. Good. 302 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,230 Well, here I'm going to have a mixture of 303 00:18:05,230 --> 00:18:08,950 Palo Verde trees, maybe some olive trees, 304 00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:09,900 just dotted around. 305 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:12,640 Oh, olives. Olives especially, yes. 306 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,180 I think olives will work very well here. 307 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:15,013 It'd be perfect. 308 00:18:15,013 --> 00:18:17,510 You can plant some eucalyptus trees to hide the poles. 309 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:19,033 Wouldn't that be wonderful? 310 00:18:19,950 --> 00:18:21,980 See the mountain coming down behind the house? 311 00:18:21,980 --> 00:18:22,963 That's right there. 312 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:25,490 So what we have here is 313 00:18:25,490 --> 00:18:28,213 almost sacred view of Southern California. 314 00:18:29,310 --> 00:18:31,760 Here's the same view with more landscaping in it. 315 00:18:33,550 --> 00:18:36,200 Showing how it developed from one year to another, 316 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,943 from 1936 to '37, '38, and '39. 317 00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:45,070 She casually sent back the pictures to me 318 00:18:45,070 --> 00:18:47,290 describing what she felt 319 00:18:47,290 --> 00:18:49,950 I could do to improve the photography, 320 00:18:49,950 --> 00:18:52,833 and/or to honor the photography I did. 321 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:57,360 But then look what Mrs. Miller gave up 322 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,173 to allow this horrible building to come in here. 323 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,680 I asked Mrs. Miller at that time 324 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,990 about the property next door. 325 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:08,600 Oh no, no one's ever gonna build there. 326 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,553 But look what's there now, a pile of junk. 327 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,789 I told Catherine to buy some charges of dynamite. 328 00:19:17,550 --> 00:19:19,910 So there's the story of our lives show. 329 00:19:19,910 --> 00:19:22,773 I'm serious. You have to plan ahead. 330 00:19:24,210 --> 00:19:27,740 Mrs. Miller had to sell the house in the late '40s. 331 00:19:27,740 --> 00:19:31,300 He sold it on to somebody else, 332 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:33,933 and they turned the garage into a kitchen. 333 00:19:34,787 --> 00:19:35,810 They wiped it out. 334 00:19:35,810 --> 00:19:39,270 They added a room onto the back that was, 335 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:41,993 when I bought it, used as the local crack den. 336 00:19:43,860 --> 00:19:46,659 I can visualize trees going there now. 337 00:19:46,659 --> 00:19:47,843 It'd be beautiful. 338 00:19:47,843 --> 00:19:48,770 It won't be very long. 339 00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:50,510 You'll be in the house maybe by Christmas, 340 00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:53,130 but not Thanksgiving, a year from now. 341 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,720 No, we'll be closer than that. 342 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,553 Closer than that? 343 00:19:59,553 --> 00:20:01,900 In three months, they'll be landscaping. 344 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:02,733 You want to bet? 345 00:20:02,733 --> 00:20:03,566 A pool. 346 00:20:03,566 --> 00:20:04,399 You want to bet? 347 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:07,990 I'll see in three months. 348 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:09,000 I'll bring you a bottle of scotch. 349 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,250 Okay. 350 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:11,550 It's a deal. 351 00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:12,383 We have witnesses here. 352 00:20:12,383 --> 00:20:13,650 That's right. 353 00:20:13,650 --> 00:20:18,313 68 years later, we're back here, commemorating history. 354 00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:20,403 In a way, 355 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,123 you can stop time. 356 00:20:27,901 --> 00:20:32,300 Neutra was an entry point into a world of architects 357 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:35,600 that profoundly committed to the actualizations 358 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,950 of the ideology of the modern movement. 359 00:20:37,950 --> 00:20:40,720 That ensuing year, 360 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,820 it read like a who's who in the architectural world, 361 00:20:43,820 --> 00:20:47,163 because Neutra introduced me to Schindler, 362 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,543 Gregory Ain, 363 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,993 Harwell Harris, 364 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:54,363 Raphael Soriano, 365 00:20:56,090 --> 00:20:58,960 J.R. Davidson, among others. 366 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,570 They were developing their own 367 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:06,080 Los Angeles based interpretations of modernism. 368 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,500 And Julius was creating an image for it. 369 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:12,416 He was immortalizing it. 370 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,420 He was sort of a filter for this architecture. 371 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:26,650 And through his images, the messages of these architects, 372 00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:28,570 and this was a period of time when 373 00:21:28,570 --> 00:21:31,230 architects believed that they could change the world. 374 00:21:31,230 --> 00:21:34,080 They believed that life could be enhanced 375 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,832 through good design, it was a very optimistic period. 376 00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:52,517 In the January, 1945 issue of 377 00:21:52,517 --> 00:21:54,224 "Arts and Architecture Magazine", 378 00:21:54,224 --> 00:21:56,860 editor and publisher, John Entenza, 379 00:21:56,860 --> 00:21:59,630 announced the case study house program. 380 00:21:59,630 --> 00:22:02,460 An unprecedented experiment in architecture, 381 00:22:02,460 --> 00:22:05,150 the program was initiated with the intent 382 00:22:05,150 --> 00:22:07,140 of creating well designed homes 383 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:10,160 for the typical post World War II family. 384 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,340 Built by what would become some of the most 385 00:22:12,340 --> 00:22:15,530 legendary names in mid century architecture, 386 00:22:15,530 --> 00:22:17,040 the majority of these homes 387 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,100 were immortalized by Schulman's lens. 388 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:23,100 Schulman's 1960 photographs of Pierre Koenig's 389 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:26,940 case study house number 22 are some of the most 390 00:22:26,940 --> 00:22:30,900 evocative images of 20th century architecture. 391 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:33,740 His extraordinary night shot of number 22, 392 00:22:33,740 --> 00:22:36,200 viewed by millions across the globe, 393 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,690 transformed Koenig's experiment into one of the world's 394 00:22:39,690 --> 00:22:42,993 most enduring architectural icons. 395 00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:48,170 One of the amazing things about that picture 396 00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:50,670 at that time was, remember, this is the time when 397 00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:53,120 we were building rockets to go to the moon. 398 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:55,829 And we were planning on colonizing Mars. 399 00:22:55,829 --> 00:23:00,340 And the sort of popular zeitgeist 400 00:23:00,340 --> 00:23:03,230 is caught perfectly in that picture. 401 00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:05,570 While my assistant was setting some lights for me, 402 00:23:05,570 --> 00:23:09,303 I went outside, looked at that view, just curiosity. 403 00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:12,170 Oh gee, I said, looking at. 404 00:23:12,170 --> 00:23:15,560 The girls were sitting there, girlfriends 405 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,780 of two of the architects who work with Pierre Koenig. 406 00:23:18,780 --> 00:23:20,550 They didn't know they're gonna be in the picture. 407 00:23:20,550 --> 00:23:23,570 They just heard the conversation. 408 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:26,490 The landscape beyond with the twinkling lights, 409 00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:28,700 the transparent box mounted up on the hill, 410 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:32,900 and people sitting in a precarious corner of a glass house, 411 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:36,713 is the signature image of what one thinks about Los Angeles. 412 00:23:38,010 --> 00:23:42,233 That's occupied by Carlotta and Buck Stahl. 413 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:45,853 They've lived in this house almost a lifetime. 414 00:23:47,610 --> 00:23:50,450 We came over to see the lot. 415 00:23:50,450 --> 00:23:53,290 All of a sudden a car comes in, 416 00:23:53,290 --> 00:23:56,020 and it turns out to be the owner of the lot. 417 00:23:56,020 --> 00:23:58,770 And Buck and him talked. 418 00:23:58,770 --> 00:24:03,204 At the end of two hours, we shook hands. We bought a lot. 419 00:24:03,204 --> 00:24:07,923 After that, the person who owned this property, 420 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:11,840 I can hear him saying, oh boy, 421 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,790 I got rid of that junky piece of land. 422 00:24:20,370 --> 00:24:23,250 Erosion, and time, and rain 423 00:24:23,250 --> 00:24:26,140 took the corners off of this lot. 424 00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:29,780 So I came in, two years of weekends, 425 00:24:29,780 --> 00:24:33,620 and built this up to what it is today, 426 00:24:33,620 --> 00:24:38,620 with broken concrete walls embedded in the Earth. 427 00:24:39,477 --> 00:24:41,500 And when we started to ask people 428 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:45,710 to talk to us about the building, everybody said no way, 429 00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:49,050 because we did have it hanging over space. 430 00:24:49,050 --> 00:24:51,500 And the house was all glass. 431 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:53,400 Along comes Pierre Koenig. 432 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,100 And he told us, no, it would be better, 433 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,386 safer if we did this and that. 434 00:24:58,386 --> 00:25:00,513 And so it was a teamwork thing. 435 00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:06,000 Of course, the man with the camera sure sold this house 436 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,613 to everybody in the world. 437 00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:11,320 You look pretty good. Take care of yourself. 438 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,764 Okay. I wish I could walk like you. 439 00:25:14,764 --> 00:25:17,231 You will, you will. 440 00:25:17,231 --> 00:25:20,827 You have faith. I'll come back and work with you. 441 00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:23,366 All right, Julius. 442 00:25:23,366 --> 00:25:27,030 93 is gonna help 92. (laughing) 443 00:25:27,030 --> 00:25:30,413 He's been a jewel in our life, he really has. 444 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,440 The photograph lives on as an absolutely pure and simple 445 00:25:36,670 --> 00:25:40,730 restatement of the ideas of the case study movement, 446 00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:44,143 and serves as a metaphor, really, as no other house can. 447 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,360 As I discovered these great prints, 448 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:48,820 I'm gonna go back and study. 449 00:25:48,820 --> 00:25:50,730 If I would have done it some years ago, 450 00:25:50,730 --> 00:25:53,340 I would be a better cinematographer now. 451 00:25:53,340 --> 00:25:56,350 Michael Mann, the director, as he always does, 452 00:25:56,350 --> 00:26:00,170 in a full room filled up with still photographs. 453 00:26:00,170 --> 00:26:02,850 And Michael told me that I'd like to do, 454 00:26:02,850 --> 00:26:04,980 I want to do another wide shot. 455 00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,393 And I would like to be able to obtain this effect, 456 00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:11,840 that was in Julia's photo, 457 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,930 of the house that goes out into the city. 458 00:26:15,930 --> 00:26:18,890 Ultimately, when he cut the movie together, 459 00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:20,760 he didn't use the shot because 460 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,323 he felt that we didn't achieve in, 461 00:26:26,257 --> 00:26:30,097 in having this quality that your photo has. 462 00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:33,450 Two lights flash. 463 00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:36,160 After the lights went off, I exposed five more minutes 464 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,160 to get the city lights at F32, to get the depth of focus. 465 00:26:42,203 --> 00:26:43,543 I now understand. 466 00:26:45,210 --> 00:26:46,980 I see. I didn't know that. 467 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:49,010 But I now understand. 468 00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:50,463 Everything else was so sharp, 469 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:54,760 but there was some blur on the city lights. 470 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,260 But anyway, shooting a movie here would be a joy, 471 00:26:58,260 --> 00:27:00,673 with the background of the photo you shot. 472 00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:03,663 Action. 473 00:27:06,052 --> 00:27:07,878 Beautiful, huh? 474 00:27:07,878 --> 00:27:10,430 And cut. 475 00:27:10,430 --> 00:27:13,477 Okay, now we can take a look at the whole move. 476 00:27:13,477 --> 00:27:16,340 The speed is good. The speed is very good there. 477 00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:17,173 It's very nice. 478 00:27:17,173 --> 00:27:19,690 What we're trying to do is feel centered. 479 00:27:19,690 --> 00:27:20,670 You are. 480 00:27:20,670 --> 00:27:22,359 But adding the mood. 481 00:27:28,466 --> 00:27:30,840 We're going to have you enter from here. 482 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,300 You take all the time that you need. 483 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:33,247 I want the time actually. 484 00:27:33,247 --> 00:27:37,794 And the same zoom size that we have on finale here. 485 00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:53,907 I was thinking of the real tight shot on him, 486 00:27:53,907 --> 00:27:56,824 the reflection of him in the glass. 487 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,033 That's good. 488 00:28:01,033 --> 00:28:03,010 Now am I gonna get a ride on the train? 489 00:28:03,010 --> 00:28:06,799 You can ride this. I'll push you all around this place. 490 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,246 Thank you. 491 00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:16,090 Shulman's photographic work for architects, 492 00:29:16,090 --> 00:29:18,580 designers, and numerous publications 493 00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:21,993 extended well beyond the confines of Los Angeles. 494 00:29:22,910 --> 00:29:24,550 By carefully orchestrating 495 00:29:24,550 --> 00:29:28,300 the timing and placement of his images, and the key design 496 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:32,650 in consumer magazines, he was able to effectively introduce 497 00:29:32,650 --> 00:29:35,923 an innovative lifestyle to the American public. 498 00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:41,820 As a result, Shulman became an invaluable contributor 499 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:44,240 to the burgeoning architectural movement, 500 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,390 not only as correspondent, 501 00:29:46,390 --> 00:29:49,993 but as talent scout and respected taste maker as well. 502 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,270 Shulman's assignment to photograph a house 503 00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:58,170 by Albert Frey in Palm Springs for "Good Housekeeping", 1947 504 00:29:58,170 --> 00:30:00,420 marks a point for Shulman where he starts establishing 505 00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:03,283 a career with a leading figure in the desert. 506 00:30:04,620 --> 00:30:05,910 Frey is a very important figure. 507 00:30:05,910 --> 00:30:09,120 He's the first disciple of Corbusier to build an America. 508 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,980 Frey originally lived in New York for a few years, 509 00:30:11,980 --> 00:30:15,630 and then went directly to the West Coast to build a building 510 00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:18,400 and fell so much in love with Palm Springs, stayed there. 511 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,453 He went out in the early '30s, 512 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,320 ended up building half of the town, 513 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,593 including city hall, the airport, two houses for himself. 514 00:30:31,820 --> 00:30:34,010 I call Albert Frey's own house 515 00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:36,640 a kind of mind shack Parthenon. 516 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,440 It has a corrugated roof. 517 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,530 It's made out of steel, which is rusted. 518 00:30:41,530 --> 00:30:45,010 It's got a poured concrete floor that simply 519 00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:46,980 extends in and out of the house. 520 00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:50,530 But it is placed with a kind of delicate refinement, 521 00:30:50,530 --> 00:30:52,600 and attention to detail 522 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,693 that comes out of a preplanned house. 523 00:30:56,140 --> 00:31:00,580 The site is what's so fabulous about this house. 524 00:31:00,580 --> 00:31:04,350 One of the joys is that you can wake up in the morning, 525 00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:07,940 and you look out and you see the entire desert. 526 00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:08,810 There's the Tahquitz. 527 00:31:08,810 --> 00:31:11,560 Yeah, straight up. Straight up, Tahquitz. 528 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,653 We have this fabulous view. 529 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,760 It's a house designed to meet and live with the desert. 530 00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:26,810 Why can't new architects, young architects, 531 00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:30,180 be instilled with the spirit of the desert? 532 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:33,380 To introduce them to a building in the desert, 533 00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:38,230 as one example, on a so called impossible piece of property. 534 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:39,650 You have constructed a house 535 00:31:39,650 --> 00:31:43,781 which melds with, and in, the landscape. 536 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:18,410 As functional as it gets, 537 00:32:18,410 --> 00:32:21,823 just essentially a steel and glass box. 538 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,960 There was an affinity there between Neutra and Frey. 539 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,470 Stewart Williams belongs to another generation. 540 00:32:29,470 --> 00:32:32,433 He moves there in the, I think, 1940s. 541 00:32:33,387 --> 00:32:36,970 He's one of the few, but very productive, architects 542 00:32:36,970 --> 00:32:40,076 who are living in Palm Springs, who had settled there. 543 00:32:40,076 --> 00:32:41,190 Hello Stewart? 544 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:43,464 It's Julia Shulman. 545 00:32:43,464 --> 00:32:47,743 You had talked to Eric about the possibility of 546 00:32:47,743 --> 00:32:51,730 trying to avoid this particular project that we're on, 547 00:32:51,730 --> 00:32:53,920 because you felt that you aren't 548 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,369 photogenic enough to match my good looks. 549 00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:01,200 No, we won't show you a face. 550 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,837 Eric and I have been talking about it, 551 00:33:02,837 --> 00:33:07,080 and I explained to him that you have such an ugly face. 552 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,780 So we don't want to show your face. 553 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:10,853 We'll show the back of your right ear. 554 00:33:13,971 --> 00:33:15,593 Hey, old friend. Hi. 555 00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:17,593 We bought the crew. 556 00:33:18,650 --> 00:33:19,813 Hey, I'll do it here. 557 00:33:19,813 --> 00:33:22,807 Yes, you can help me do it there. 558 00:33:22,807 --> 00:33:23,991 Stewart. 559 00:33:23,991 --> 00:33:24,900 Good to see you. 560 00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:26,623 So good to see you. Thank you. 561 00:33:26,623 --> 00:33:29,010 Just a little over 90, I feel rattling here. 562 00:33:29,010 --> 00:33:33,720 What is this? What started the, invasion, I'd say? 563 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,384 Well, the camera man. 564 00:33:35,384 --> 00:33:38,500 You said you were coming with a gentleman friend. 565 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:40,470 Eric Bricker, who is the producer here. 566 00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:41,303 Oh, for God's sake. 567 00:33:41,303 --> 00:33:42,980 He has to have a film man, a camera man. 568 00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:44,450 But don't photograph his face. 569 00:33:44,450 --> 00:33:45,490 Don't photograph anything. 570 00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:46,870 Don't photograph Stewart yet. 571 00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:49,150 Don't photograph me, forget the yet. 572 00:33:49,150 --> 00:33:50,520 Just don't photograph me. 573 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,500 Let's do this. 574 00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:53,940 Walk around behind Stewart. 575 00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:55,460 Stewart, you're gonna sit here? 576 00:33:55,460 --> 00:33:56,901 No. Well, yes. I'm gonna sit- 577 00:33:56,901 --> 00:33:59,340 Is that okay with you the lighting, Eric? 578 00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:01,550 As we came down a little while ago, I pointed out 579 00:34:01,550 --> 00:34:03,650 all the buildings that Stewart William's design 580 00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:05,493 down Palm Canyon Boulevard. 581 00:34:08,210 --> 00:34:10,897 There were half a dozen of them along the canyon there. 582 00:34:10,897 --> 00:34:14,420 The Palm Springs atmosphere was reflected 583 00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:18,380 in everything you did in that parameter 584 00:34:18,380 --> 00:34:20,477 of the Frank Sinatra House. 585 00:34:20,477 --> 00:34:22,330 And that was my first house. 586 00:34:22,330 --> 00:34:23,414 And that was a good house. 587 00:34:23,414 --> 00:34:24,486 Well, it was a good house. 588 00:34:24,486 --> 00:34:27,980 You violated all the rules or tradition. 589 00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:28,813 Well, that's right. 590 00:34:28,813 --> 00:34:33,813 And I made a point, always, of finding materials 591 00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:38,440 that somehow was related to the surroundings of the project. 592 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,420 He went to the most influential client he could have had, 593 00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:46,350 and built a large sprawling, modern house. 594 00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:50,160 And asked why Sinatra didn't object, 595 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,040 since he'd originally asked for colonial, 596 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,120 Stewart said, he didn't know what modern was. 597 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,940 He just wanted a roof over his head by Christmas, 598 00:34:56,940 --> 00:34:59,250 so you could entertain the family. 599 00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:02,750 You have Stewart Williams, William Cody, Frey, 600 00:35:02,750 --> 00:35:05,870 and a partner of Frey's, John Porter Clark, 601 00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:09,980 that really by postwar star building up Palm Springs 602 00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:14,490 as a postwar city, that is all about the modern aesthetic, 603 00:35:14,490 --> 00:35:17,065 but a livable modern aesthetic in the desert. 604 00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:34,500 One of the things that I appreciate 605 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,840 most about Julia Shulman is that 606 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,310 he was not just interested in quote, the stars. 607 00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:45,010 He was interested in those other people who 608 00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:47,560 might have seemed to be on the margins, 609 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,430 but who were very good architects. 610 00:35:50,430 --> 00:35:54,740 He had this unfailing eye for seeking out new talent and 611 00:35:54,740 --> 00:35:57,280 bringing it to the attention of East Coast editors. 612 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,020 One time he had an assignment 613 00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:00,850 to photograph the work of an architect 614 00:36:00,850 --> 00:36:03,913 by the name of Herb Greene in Oklahoma city. 615 00:36:04,793 --> 00:36:06,936 And he had designed and built this wonderful house 616 00:36:06,936 --> 00:36:08,760 that we called the Prairie chicken. 617 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,670 And Julius said, this is exciting. 618 00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:13,040 I'm gonna run to New York with this in my bag. 619 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,290 I know they're gonna pick this up. 620 00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:20,070 That piece of architecture was published all over the world. 621 00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:24,350 And his architecture business thrived, of course. 622 00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:26,010 So Julius helped to make a career 623 00:36:26,010 --> 00:36:29,127 for an architect happen more than once. 624 00:36:29,127 --> 00:36:33,850 I'll have Sharon sitting on the left hand chair. 625 00:36:33,850 --> 00:36:36,240 The chance to work with him, see our house 626 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:40,420 through his eyes has been an incredible lesson. 627 00:36:40,420 --> 00:36:43,420 For him to sort of see next generations is really inspiring. 628 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,440 During the design of the house, 629 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,115 we incorporated a lot of Julius Shulman photographs, 630 00:36:49,115 --> 00:36:51,930 as a spacial construct, as well as inspiration. 631 00:36:51,930 --> 00:36:54,101 A very quick way to shoot for 632 00:36:54,101 --> 00:36:56,893 the qualities that we're striving for in the design. 633 00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:01,040 Bend your knees a little bit. 634 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,530 That's good right there. 635 00:37:02,530 --> 00:37:04,350 So everybody in position. 636 00:37:04,350 --> 00:37:07,113 I have a great associate, Juergen Nogai. 637 00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:08,850 He's from Germany, 638 00:37:10,330 --> 00:37:12,709 He's a very wonderful person. 639 00:37:12,709 --> 00:37:15,013 And he and I worked together on every project. 640 00:37:15,958 --> 00:37:18,593 We're turning out beautiful results. 641 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,907 That's good. 642 00:37:25,907 --> 00:37:27,870 And we have here also, more contrast. 643 00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:29,527 Good. All right, let's go home. 644 00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:38,900 In addition to photographing 645 00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:41,800 the work of the merging architects and designers, 646 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,100 Shulman also documented the endeavors 647 00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:47,160 of more established masters, most notably 648 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,853 those of the legendary Frank Lloyd Wright. 649 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,750 Wright revolutionized the very concept 650 00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:57,620 of the built environment. 651 00:37:57,620 --> 00:37:59,410 And Shulman would later translate 652 00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:02,230 the architects domestic and public spaces 653 00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:05,243 into vivid, and persuasive imagery. 654 00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:10,873 In the area around 1950, 655 00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:14,470 I was photographing a house for an architect 656 00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:17,233 who used to be an apprentice with Frank Lloyd Wright. 657 00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:20,420 And as a result of a conversation, 658 00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:22,310 it turns out that I was able to go to the meet 659 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:24,800 Frank Lloyd Wright the next day. 660 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,750 He allowed me to photograph Taliesin West. 661 00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:29,960 So I spent 12 days. 662 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,310 Then when I sent him my photographs, 663 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:35,270 he was exuberant in praising them. 664 00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:38,010 He gave me other projects to photograph. 665 00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:50,210 Frank Lloyd Wright designed this. 666 00:38:50,210 --> 00:38:52,760 When he saw this photograph, he almost kissed me. 667 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,730 What lens do you use here? 668 00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:55,420 Because that's a very narrow street that that's on. 669 00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:56,605 It's a wide angle lens. 670 00:38:56,605 --> 00:38:57,910 Were you on the other sidewalk across- 671 00:38:57,910 --> 00:39:00,090 No, I was right on the curb, literally. 672 00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,160 Wide angle lens, held straight one point perspective, 673 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,700 right dead center, you don't distort. 674 00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:06,890 Distortion comes only when you 675 00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:09,050 tilt the camera, or turn it sideways. 676 00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:10,510 Did this picture help you 677 00:39:10,510 --> 00:39:11,810 in future assignments with Wright? 678 00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:14,470 I mean was he more amenable to your ideas and suggestions? 679 00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:16,590 I should have brought the letter he wrote to me. 680 00:39:16,590 --> 00:39:17,430 It was a beautiful letter. 681 00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:19,830 After he saw my Taliesin pictures, he said they're. 682 00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:21,100 Well, I won't talk about now, except that. 683 00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:22,463 You can talk about it. What did he say? 684 00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:23,660 You're among friends. 685 00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:24,574 I'm not modest. 686 00:39:24,574 --> 00:39:25,537 Neither am I. 687 00:39:25,537 --> 00:39:28,000 You're pictures are incredible for an amateur, 688 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,951 and better than most professionals. 689 00:39:29,951 --> 00:39:32,270 Yeah, that made me hit the floor. 690 00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:33,197 Better than most professionals. 691 00:39:33,197 --> 00:39:36,087 I keep that letter in my office. 692 00:39:36,087 --> 00:39:37,360 That's a humbling letter. 693 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,890 Oh, I was very pleased, to say the least. 694 00:39:39,890 --> 00:39:43,240 Frank Lloyd Wright established some ideas, early on, 695 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:48,240 that kind of wedded a new idea of architecture to its place. 696 00:39:52,650 --> 00:39:56,410 He changed the nature of what we think a house is, 697 00:39:56,410 --> 00:39:58,870 not what it looks like, but how it's organized, 698 00:39:58,870 --> 00:40:00,123 and how you live in it. 699 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,240 Another architect who changed our ideas 700 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,352 about living spaces was John Lottner, 701 00:40:07,352 --> 00:40:09,933 who came out of the Frank Lloyd Wright office. 702 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,760 As one of Wright's most promising proteges, 703 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,120 Lautner united his passion for both architecture 704 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,760 and engineering, creating visually thrilling spaces 705 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,523 that remain revolutionary even today. 706 00:40:29,550 --> 00:40:31,660 I refer to him as the missing link between 707 00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:34,560 the classic modernism, the work of Neutra, 708 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,401 or case study house architects, 709 00:40:37,401 --> 00:40:40,600 and the more sort of expressive 710 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,933 and organic work that people now associate with Los Angeles. 711 00:40:48,670 --> 00:40:51,210 He thought that every single house should be 712 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:53,050 developed out of the site constraints, 713 00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:55,680 and out of what the budget allowed, 714 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,863 and what the client wanted and needed. 715 00:41:02,190 --> 00:41:04,763 John was a brilliant engineer. 716 00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:09,563 You have a house perched on the side of the hill. 717 00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:13,000 And there's no excavation here. 718 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,023 It's just like a birdhouse would be. 719 00:41:16,070 --> 00:41:18,020 And look at the view you get from here. 720 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,210 And he had the concept of getting a contracting company 721 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,233 to acquire the land around here, 722 00:41:28,140 --> 00:41:30,303 and build a series of these pods. 723 00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:34,010 He couldn't get a contractor 724 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,693 to build and finance this kind of project. 725 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,003 It's a tragedy. 726 00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:47,700 Nice meeting you. 727 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,923 How long ago did you take the picture? 728 00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:52,260 I photographed this house originally 729 00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:54,223 when it was new in 1961. 730 00:41:56,157 --> 00:41:59,080 And in 1968, it was made a major 731 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,827 story about for "Life Magazine". 732 00:42:01,940 --> 00:42:04,620 So you're the famous Julius Shulman? 733 00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:07,817 68 years of photography about the cover. 734 00:42:07,817 --> 00:42:11,560 She's been instrumental in making my book so beautiful. 735 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,030 She's a book designer. I can't wait to see it. 736 00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:15,401 Well, wait till you see- 737 00:42:15,401 --> 00:42:16,908 When's it gonna be published? 738 00:42:16,908 --> 00:42:17,912 Ask Angelida. 739 00:42:17,912 --> 00:42:19,224 Well, I don't know. 740 00:42:19,224 --> 00:42:21,123 Okay, when's it gonna be published? 741 00:42:21,123 --> 00:42:24,330 When it's at its best, then we start printing. 742 00:42:24,330 --> 00:42:26,250 We look so long on this book, 743 00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:28,660 it's like you can't do it better. 744 00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:31,280 Angelika happens to be a very creative woman. 745 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,273 And she built this wall not wall. 746 00:42:33,273 --> 00:42:34,841 Not myself. 747 00:42:34,841 --> 00:42:36,633 Well, and then. 748 00:42:36,633 --> 00:42:37,960 The stones are too high. 749 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,770 There's a stairway up here, up to the hill above. 750 00:42:40,770 --> 00:42:44,010 Someday there'll be a trail from here to my house, 751 00:42:44,010 --> 00:42:46,180 which is half a mile straight, 752 00:42:46,180 --> 00:42:48,100 otherwise you'd take Mulholland. 753 00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:50,420 You go over the hill, and we were gonna hike 754 00:42:50,420 --> 00:42:53,637 to our house from here someday. 755 00:42:53,637 --> 00:42:56,160 And look at the nice light coming through here, 756 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,022 the last rays of sunlight. 757 00:42:58,022 --> 00:43:00,511 Isn't that beautiful? 758 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,280 Julius made beautiful pictures of Lautner's buildings. 759 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,960 And Lautner, I would say, is another example of that 760 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,960 branch of modernism, a legacy of expressionism. 761 00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:20,173 Eric Mendelson, 762 00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:22,650 late Frank Lloyd Wright. 763 00:43:22,650 --> 00:43:26,522 After all John Lautner went to Taliesin in the late '30s, 764 00:43:26,522 --> 00:43:28,540 and was imbued with all of that. 765 00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:30,210 Frank Lloyd Wright called John Lautner 766 00:43:30,210 --> 00:43:31,980 the world's second greatest architect. 767 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:36,980 He felt very strong about the talent of this student. 768 00:43:37,090 --> 00:43:39,883 And John was such an amazing builder. 769 00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:42,328 The photograph of John Lautner, 770 00:43:42,328 --> 00:43:44,280 this is the age he was when he designed our house. 771 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,600 And in fact, if you look behind him in the photograph, 772 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,300 there's a design for a restaurant that incorporates 773 00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:54,223 a lot of the same features as the entryway of our house. 774 00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:57,330 What we refer to as the lobby, 775 00:43:57,330 --> 00:43:59,430 for lack of a better description, because 776 00:44:01,420 --> 00:44:02,750 it's not a real practical room. 777 00:44:02,750 --> 00:44:04,227 It's just a spectacular room, I think. 778 00:44:04,227 --> 00:44:05,950 Oh, it's a real practical room. 779 00:44:05,950 --> 00:44:08,010 We've had string quartet concerts in here. 780 00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:11,130 We've had fundraisers for Rudolph Schindler at Mocha. 781 00:44:11,130 --> 00:44:12,870 We had Julie Shulman birthday party in here. 782 00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:16,050 No no, it's great as a restaurant and nightclub. 783 00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:19,150 But I mean, as far as something in a house. 784 00:44:19,150 --> 00:44:22,263 It lent itself to be something that 785 00:44:22,263 --> 00:44:25,410 is a little bit in the world of fantasy. 786 00:44:25,410 --> 00:44:29,420 Many Lautner homes are now used in films, 787 00:44:29,420 --> 00:44:32,421 for some reason, the site of evil person. 788 00:44:42,130 --> 00:44:44,000 So this is the east side of the house. 789 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,460 And on the West Side, 790 00:44:45,460 --> 00:44:49,060 if you walk past the pool is the Hollywood sign. 791 00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:51,912 That's just, it's really cool. 792 00:44:51,912 --> 00:44:55,870 I grew up with that, in cold Minnesota, wondering wow. 793 00:44:55,870 --> 00:44:57,693 Hollywood, that's really a place. 794 00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:03,467 But how insane to look right through our house to see. 795 00:45:03,467 --> 00:45:04,300 You can literally look 796 00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:05,687 from west to east in this direction. 797 00:45:05,687 --> 00:45:07,300 The movement of the sun and the moon, 798 00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:08,653 we see them so clearly. 799 00:45:13,870 --> 00:45:17,290 Here is a view of Los Angeles, if you can see it. 800 00:45:17,290 --> 00:45:20,823 This is progress in the eyes of many people, pure smog. 801 00:45:21,870 --> 00:45:24,470 We cannot permit ecology to be destroyed, 802 00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:25,720 because that is the life blood, 803 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:27,220 the lifeline of our whole world. 804 00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:29,881 I was invited to a dialogue with 805 00:45:29,881 --> 00:45:32,050 the PR man for Irvine Corporation. 806 00:45:32,050 --> 00:45:33,990 Your very concerned about eagles and birds, 807 00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:35,620 and I'm very concerned about people. 808 00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:37,270 They just began to cut down trees, 809 00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:40,550 and destroy the orchards and build 810 00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:42,080 little communities of tract houses. 811 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,020 We're not allowed to build houses. 812 00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:46,343 We're not allowed to build businesses, 813 00:45:46,343 --> 00:45:49,500 and do things for fear that were going to hurt some 814 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:52,140 ecology or environment, a word that you, 815 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:53,530 you or no other environmentalist 816 00:45:53,530 --> 00:45:55,094 has ever been able to define for me. 817 00:45:55,094 --> 00:45:56,278 I don't know what the environment is, 818 00:45:56,278 --> 00:45:57,560 if it doesn't include me. 819 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,080 In my photography, doing architectural work essentially- 820 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,610 Julius becomes much more 821 00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:07,210 aware of the environment, and concerned about it. 822 00:46:07,210 --> 00:46:11,450 He was really adamantly disgusted 823 00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:16,313 with what was happening to his Los Angeles. 824 00:46:17,530 --> 00:46:19,190 We started a program called 825 00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:24,190 Project Environment USA, to show how architects could 826 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,113 relate to good environment in their design work. 827 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,940 And for 10 years, these photographs 828 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:37,587 were published and exhibited throughout the United States. 829 00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:42,080 By the 1960s, Shulman had become 830 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,660 one of the world's foremost architectural photographers. 831 00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:48,610 Sought after by publications around the globe. 832 00:46:48,610 --> 00:46:52,160 Shulman traveled continuously throughout the US, 833 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:57,160 Europe, Asia, and South America, defining imagery for both 834 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,960 the eras great architectural masters and its young pioneers. 835 00:47:03,470 --> 00:47:05,584 When I went to Mexico, 836 00:47:05,584 --> 00:47:09,040 I did a tremendous amount of work there for architects 837 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,430 like Abraham Zabludovsky, and Ricardo Legorreta. 838 00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:15,968 Tell me, your daughter was taking photographs. 839 00:47:15,968 --> 00:47:18,131 Yes. Thanks to you, yes. 840 00:47:18,131 --> 00:47:20,340 She's still doing it, thanks for your advice and everything. 841 00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:22,780 Well, why not? It's a good business. 842 00:47:22,780 --> 00:47:24,510 Let the architects do all the heavy work, 843 00:47:24,510 --> 00:47:28,670 and here we come in and take pictures, like this. 844 00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:30,911 They just did a book 845 00:47:30,911 --> 00:47:35,203 on us, an editor of Mexico. 846 00:47:36,250 --> 00:47:37,807 I brought you a copy. 847 00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:42,893 You've been busy. 848 00:47:42,893 --> 00:47:44,844 Yes, yeah we have. 849 00:47:48,298 --> 00:47:53,298 We have to attempt great things. That's a mistake. 850 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,590 History makes it great. 851 00:47:56,350 --> 00:48:00,750 Why don't we say, we have to attempt to understand 852 00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:03,870 the history of our lives, the history of our times? 853 00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:04,703 Its better. 854 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,750 My honest opinion. 855 00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:09,213 Yes. 856 00:48:09,213 --> 00:48:11,673 It's the only one you can give in all your life. 857 00:48:15,490 --> 00:48:18,120 As I traveled around South America, 858 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,380 I found great architecture in Atlantida, Uruguay. 859 00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:27,070 I found great architecture in Argentina. 860 00:48:27,070 --> 00:48:28,390 However, 861 00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:30,700 the most enticing and most dramatic 862 00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:35,317 of all the work I photographed there existed in Brasillia. 863 00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:38,960 He went there under the sponsorship of 864 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,203 a Mexican architect by the name of Abraham Zabludovsky. 865 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,540 And the family, you'd think Julius was a brother 866 00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:48,130 or something, the way they treated him. 867 00:48:48,130 --> 00:48:50,740 And all the kids, Uncle Julius, practically. 868 00:48:50,740 --> 00:48:52,370 And he knew all about them. 869 00:48:52,370 --> 00:48:56,130 And Alinka Zabludovsky was a very gracious lady, 870 00:48:56,130 --> 00:48:57,653 and made me feel very welcome. 871 00:48:58,530 --> 00:49:02,840 You realize, Alinka, what a privilege it is to be here, 872 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,153 to see what, this is wonderful. 873 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,840 Abraham was very skilled at getting good photography. 874 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,313 Look at this photograph. 875 00:49:18,340 --> 00:49:19,763 Absolutely fantastic. 876 00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:21,840 Chose the right time of day, 877 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,263 when you get light inside and outside. 878 00:49:25,530 --> 00:49:28,680 Tells you the whole story of the building. 879 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,731 You realize, when you stop here in one moment, 880 00:49:32,731 --> 00:49:34,840 and just let the eye walk around here. 881 00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,563 Look what was achieved in a lifetime, 882 00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:42,943 and the contrast between each building. 883 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,597 The man was a good architect, a good human being. 884 00:50:07,737 --> 00:50:08,570 Salute. 885 00:50:17,850 --> 00:50:21,520 Modernism started to decline in the late 1960s, 886 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,150 as a new style, postmodernism, emerged in its place. 887 00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:30,050 With an emphasis on wit, ornament, and historical reference, 888 00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:31,890 it was a shift that would ultimately 889 00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:34,590 drive Shulman into retirement. 890 00:50:34,590 --> 00:50:36,380 Julius had a wonderful archive. 891 00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:39,790 So he decided, look Carlos, I'm gonna give you, 892 00:50:39,790 --> 00:50:43,180 which he did, $10,000 cash. 893 00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:47,030 I'm gonna give you $60,000 worth of camera equipment. 894 00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:49,850 I'm gonna write you a letter of recommendation 895 00:50:49,850 --> 00:50:52,290 to all my existing clients. 896 00:50:52,290 --> 00:50:54,600 Go out, carry on, do your best. 897 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,333 I'm gonna, quote, retire, close my doors. 898 00:51:01,070 --> 00:51:03,600 I felt that many architects 899 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,240 turned to strange designs. 900 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:10,630 It wasn't architecture to him. He hated it. 901 00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:13,110 He hated all of these postmodern architects. 902 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:14,890 He thought they were fools. 903 00:51:14,890 --> 00:51:19,440 Julius is often outspoken and judgmental. 904 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,040 I don't always agree with his judgment, 905 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,703 but I appreciate his candor. 906 00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:28,340 One judgment that I do agree with him on is his 907 00:51:29,950 --> 00:51:34,560 opposition to much postmodernist architecture. 908 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,920 It reminds me of Reyner Banham's definitive line, 909 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,810 postmodernism is to architecture 910 00:51:41,810 --> 00:51:45,193 as female impersonation is to femininity. 911 00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:50,630 As modernism slowly fell out of fashion, 912 00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:54,260 many masterworks were neglected, even destroyed. 913 00:51:54,260 --> 00:51:56,760 Shulman however, remained a faithful steward 914 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,120 to the modernist ideal. 915 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,200 Ultimately his vast photographic archive would become 916 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,660 an indispensable resource, as public tastes turned 917 00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:09,083 enthusiastically back toward modernism. 918 00:52:12,375 --> 00:52:14,500 We weren't looking to buy a house in Palm Springs. 919 00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:16,823 We were looking to see this house. 920 00:52:20,860 --> 00:52:23,850 The house had been on the market for four years, 921 00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:25,690 and it needed a lot of work. 922 00:52:25,690 --> 00:52:28,300 The real estate agent, as she was showing us the property, 923 00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:30,760 kept reinforcing the idea that you could buy this 924 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,990 for land value and build whatever you want. 925 00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:33,910 So I asked her, 926 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:36,150 do you really think that somebody would, 927 00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:37,810 would take this house down? 928 00:52:37,810 --> 00:52:39,360 And she said, well, they could. 929 00:52:40,340 --> 00:52:41,890 It was really at that moment that 930 00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:43,663 I knew we had to get this house. 931 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:49,840 I sought out Julius, and he was immediately excited. 932 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,500 He probably had 25 pictures that he could show me that day. 933 00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:56,760 But he had about 80 pictures that he had never printed 934 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,730 that he printed for us. 935 00:52:58,730 --> 00:53:00,850 And without those pictures, 936 00:53:00,850 --> 00:53:03,070 we couldn't have restored the house. 937 00:53:03,070 --> 00:53:08,070 It had four owners, and 2,500 square feet added onto it, 938 00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:13,780 which puffed out of every side, except the Shulman view. 939 00:53:15,490 --> 00:53:18,160 We decided to remove all of the additions. 940 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,230 And that meant wherever they came in contact with the house, 941 00:53:21,230 --> 00:53:23,560 that's where our restoration problem was gonna be. 942 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,130 There was a cutout in the stone here, 943 00:53:27,130 --> 00:53:29,330 because there was a doorway that opened out 944 00:53:29,330 --> 00:53:31,410 into a closet that had been added. 945 00:53:31,410 --> 00:53:33,120 So when I first came out here, 946 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,540 there was a sense of excitement and anticipation. 947 00:53:36,540 --> 00:53:37,830 But walking around the site, 948 00:53:37,830 --> 00:53:39,810 there was also a sense of sadness, 949 00:53:39,810 --> 00:53:44,110 because much of the character that I remembered so vividly 950 00:53:44,110 --> 00:53:48,470 from school and books had been tarnished. 951 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:49,570 There was also excitement, 952 00:53:49,570 --> 00:53:52,513 because you could see the original house in there. 953 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,610 Up to the foyer, let's go. 954 00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:58,470 Architects of this generation 955 00:53:58,470 --> 00:54:01,890 were pushing the limits of their technologies. 956 00:54:01,890 --> 00:54:04,910 They were trying to achieve things that in many ways, 957 00:54:04,910 --> 00:54:08,360 their technologies weren't capable of achieving. 958 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,970 But the modernist confidence was to do it anyway. 959 00:54:11,970 --> 00:54:13,880 And with that came an elegance. 960 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,080 But with that came a challenge. 961 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,290 And these houses are desperate for care and restoration. 962 00:54:20,290 --> 00:54:21,320 There weren't any working drawings 963 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,080 of this house that we had access to. 964 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,550 We had sketches and little, 965 00:54:27,550 --> 00:54:29,730 very small interior elevations of various rooms. 966 00:54:29,730 --> 00:54:33,040 But it was Shulman's photographs 967 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,930 that really kind of guided us. 968 00:54:34,930 --> 00:54:38,230 He captured the sensibilities of the house, 969 00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:41,790 the aesthetic of the house, what the house felt like. 970 00:54:41,790 --> 00:54:45,640 And to me, that's the genius of those photographs. 971 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,640 Every architect practicing today has to somehow resolve 972 00:54:51,310 --> 00:54:54,760 the mythology that Julius Shulman captured for us. 973 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,630 How they do it as their own business, 974 00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:59,230 and their own ability and magic 975 00:54:59,230 --> 00:55:01,620 to create new worlds out of it. 976 00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:05,910 But really all of them have to, in some way, make peace 977 00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:09,075 with the modernism that Julius Shulman presented to us. 978 00:56:01,780 --> 00:56:06,570 It's a simple but true statement that Julius Shulman is 979 00:56:06,570 --> 00:56:09,723 the most important architectural photographer in history. 980 00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:16,140 When we met around 1990, he had never really shown his 981 00:56:16,370 --> 00:56:20,170 photography in a fine art context. 982 00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:21,070 When I said I wanted to 983 00:56:21,070 --> 00:56:22,693 show his work in a gallery, he thought 984 00:56:22,693 --> 00:56:25,080 the beautiful pictures that I took on my vacation, 985 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,680 that's what you want, I said no. 986 00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:30,560 It was just such a natural thing 987 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,573 that has worked should be available as fine art photography. 988 00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:39,123 It's just a matter of context, and perception. 989 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,270 Since then, we've shown his work in Milan, 990 00:56:46,270 --> 00:56:49,100 and London, and Paris, and Cologne, and Berlin, 991 00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:52,280 and Munich, and New York, Toronto. 992 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,533 It's been an extremely successful relationship. 993 00:56:58,030 --> 00:56:59,667 The genealogy of architecture photography 994 00:56:59,667 --> 00:57:01,720 in the United States really starts with 995 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:03,633 a man named F.S. Lincoln. 996 00:57:05,310 --> 00:57:07,780 After that, it kind of balloons out to three, 997 00:57:07,780 --> 00:57:10,090 which is Julia Shulman, Ezra Stoller, 998 00:57:10,090 --> 00:57:12,930 and the studio of Hedrich Blessing in Chicago. 999 00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:14,330 Their photographs were a bit darker, 1000 00:57:14,330 --> 00:57:16,593 and they deal with ambient light. 1001 00:57:18,090 --> 00:57:20,900 Shulman's deals more with the natural landscape. 1002 00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:24,723 And Stoller's is the tonality of the sky. 1003 00:57:25,820 --> 00:57:28,020 Stoller's photos are very different than Shulman, 1004 00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:30,030 in that sense of Stoller's are more 1005 00:57:30,030 --> 00:57:33,110 elevational like in their visual construction. 1006 00:57:33,110 --> 00:57:36,670 Julius' photos are mostly one point perspectives. 1007 00:57:36,670 --> 00:57:39,490 And to show a really good modern interior, 1008 00:57:39,490 --> 00:57:41,410 you really need to do a one point perspective, 1009 00:57:41,410 --> 00:57:44,970 because the modern will unfold in a beautiful way. 1010 00:57:44,970 --> 00:57:49,040 The rooftops and floor lines recede into 1011 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,483 this single point, and they jut out at you 1012 00:57:51,483 --> 00:57:55,240 at this very dynamic 45 degree angle. 1013 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,810 And so the images are either 1014 00:57:57,810 --> 00:58:00,723 shooting towards you, or pulling you in. 1015 00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:03,940 Often, the houses in real life 1016 00:58:03,940 --> 00:58:07,310 are not nearly as beautiful as Julius's pictures. 1017 00:58:07,310 --> 00:58:10,940 He was a master at shifting the planes around to, 1018 00:58:10,940 --> 00:58:13,870 in a way, distill the essence of the building 1019 00:58:13,870 --> 00:58:18,050 into one particular shot, or to even enhance 1020 00:58:18,050 --> 00:58:21,120 the strong lines of an already powerful building, 1021 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,210 and raise it to a different level. 1022 00:58:23,210 --> 00:58:26,450 Somehow he's able to put so much of himself 1023 00:58:26,450 --> 00:58:28,800 into the vantage point, 1024 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,190 that you feel his presence in the room, 1025 00:58:32,190 --> 00:58:33,853 even if he's not in the frame. 1026 00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:39,010 We had been talking about 1027 00:58:40,070 --> 00:58:44,690 where Julius's archive should end up for many years. 1028 00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:47,300 And there had been discussions 1029 00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:51,240 and proposals from various museums. 1030 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,240 But I, and Julius, and his daughter, 1031 00:58:56,380 --> 00:59:01,060 I think, had always been most interested in 1032 00:59:01,060 --> 00:59:02,413 it ending up at the Getty. 1033 00:59:11,410 --> 00:59:16,020 Here, suddenly they're gonna strip all the negatives, 1034 00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:18,660 and contact prints, and enlargements. 1035 00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:23,660 The whole story of my life will not be transposed into 1036 00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:26,840 Mr. Getty's. hall. 1037 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,457 So there's all these, and all these over here, 1038 00:59:28,457 --> 00:59:29,893 and all those over there. 1039 00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:35,340 There's a bunch of other out in the shed out there. 1040 00:59:35,340 --> 00:59:37,960 And they all need to be plastic wrapped. 1041 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,290 This is exhibit material you can take. 1042 00:59:40,290 --> 00:59:42,820 These are all my original prints. 1043 00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:46,295 They go back, far back. You can see the date on that. 1044 00:59:46,295 --> 00:59:48,380 That's 54 years ago. 1045 00:59:48,380 --> 00:59:51,283 But it's a sad experience. 1046 00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:56,410 I don't know how you're gonna plan to store these. 1047 00:59:57,650 --> 01:00:00,490 I'm not just gonna move away from this whole project. 1048 01:00:00,490 --> 01:00:04,500 I aim to come to Getty quite frequently. 1049 01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:05,757 Oh, we need your help for it. 1050 01:00:05,757 --> 01:00:07,763 And I hope you'll ask me because, 1051 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,630 let me have a key to the gate. 1052 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,920 Because I plan to come there. 1053 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,720 Julius had a specific organization of his archive. 1054 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,720 We as an archival institution, do not want to change that. 1055 01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:28,040 Because it really shows Julius's thinking. 1056 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,780 And the working with the archive 1057 01:00:29,780 --> 01:00:32,850 is just as much of importance to understand Julius's work 1058 01:00:32,850 --> 01:00:35,050 as looking at the photos themselves. 1059 01:00:35,050 --> 01:00:38,540 The place is gonna be barren without my archives. 1060 01:00:38,540 --> 01:00:41,190 But there's so many other things still piled up here. 1061 01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:44,673 I am gonna miss some of these. 1062 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,821 And look at the work I'm doing here now. 1063 01:00:48,821 --> 01:00:51,200 And I can still have my coffee and scones, 1064 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,463 and have a good life, 1065 01:00:54,430 --> 01:00:55,863 thanks to my daughter, Judy. 1066 01:00:57,590 --> 01:01:02,560 This is a man who lives in his present, in the present. 1067 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,400 And in his presence too. (chuckles) 1068 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,420 But he lives in the present. 1069 01:01:07,420 --> 01:01:10,490 And it was the same thing when Olga died. 1070 01:01:10,490 --> 01:01:14,330 He's always looking forward. 1071 01:01:14,330 --> 01:01:17,800 Somebody's coming up here tomorrow. 1072 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,337 Here's an order to these people. 1073 01:01:22,432 --> 01:01:27,432 Ah! It's empty. 1074 01:01:28,718 --> 01:01:31,910 Many of those pictures are not to go yet. 1075 01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:32,743 Right. 1076 01:01:32,743 --> 01:01:33,810 'Cause I want to start them. 1077 01:01:33,810 --> 01:01:36,254 Judy doesn't know how I feel about those. 1078 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,140 Many of those pictures are salon pictures, 1079 01:01:42,140 --> 01:01:45,763 personal pictures, and they're not ready to be shipped yet. 1080 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,670 I'll be all right. 1081 01:01:52,670 --> 01:01:55,023 And I've got these wonderful things here. 1082 01:01:55,023 --> 01:01:57,523 Well Julius, Judy's not coming back till Sunday. 1083 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:00,970 Sunday, what's Sunday? 1084 01:02:00,970 --> 01:02:02,440 Sunday's the fifth, 1085 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,240 when you're coming for brunch at the house. 1086 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,190 But Julius I have a meeting at two, 1087 01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:09,233 so I can't stay around this afternoon. 1088 01:02:10,838 --> 01:02:13,640 All right. That's how you feel about. 1089 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,439 I'd love to be here, you know I would. 1090 01:02:15,439 --> 01:02:17,090 I know. 1091 01:02:26,866 --> 01:02:27,699 That's it. 1092 01:02:29,139 --> 01:02:29,972 Bye bye. 1093 01:02:43,950 --> 01:02:46,690 A major reason for the revival of 1094 01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:49,690 modernism in the late 1990s is the republication 1095 01:02:49,690 --> 01:02:52,670 of Julius's photography by Taschen. 1096 01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:54,090 People look in Taschen's books. 1097 01:02:54,090 --> 01:02:55,630 They say, I want to leave here. 1098 01:02:55,630 --> 01:02:57,750 And they want to, 1099 01:02:57,750 --> 01:03:01,916 they want to become part of a Julius Shulman photograph. 1100 01:03:01,916 --> 01:03:03,387 Thank you. Thank you. 1101 01:03:05,853 --> 01:03:08,143 Thank you so much. 1102 01:03:08,143 --> 01:03:09,762 I appreciate it. Thank you. 1103 01:03:09,762 --> 01:03:11,005 It's a beautiful one. 1104 01:03:11,005 --> 01:03:12,660 That's a collector's item. 1105 01:03:12,660 --> 01:03:14,390 Yeah, now it is. 1106 01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:15,680 Thank you so much. 1107 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,794 Thank you. 1108 01:03:16,794 --> 01:03:17,627 I like your work. 1109 01:03:17,627 --> 01:03:18,460 Enjoy it. 1110 01:03:18,460 --> 01:03:23,090 Julius has a portfolio that encapsulates 1111 01:03:23,090 --> 01:03:25,820 the generation of architecture that many people 1112 01:03:25,820 --> 01:03:28,593 would never get to see in the flesh. 1113 01:03:32,020 --> 01:03:34,530 Benedikt Taschen mythologized 1114 01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:37,970 the man who mythologized the buildings. 1115 01:03:37,970 --> 01:03:38,803 Can't even tell you 1116 01:03:38,803 --> 01:03:39,890 how many of your photographs I have. 1117 01:03:39,890 --> 01:03:40,992 Everything was fine. 1118 01:03:40,992 --> 01:03:42,160 Wonderful. 1119 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,382 I never sold so many books. 1120 01:03:50,830 --> 01:03:54,820 It's astounding when you think about the 1121 01:03:54,820 --> 01:03:57,063 number people who've been here tonight. 1122 01:03:58,470 --> 01:04:00,240 The whole firm was here, I guess. 1123 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,977 It's amazing, don't you think? 1124 01:04:05,636 --> 01:04:06,576 Where are we going now? 1125 01:04:06,576 --> 01:04:09,243 I don't know. He's on his way. 1126 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,210 So then we have to come up 1127 01:04:18,210 --> 01:04:20,300 with a title for the book as well. 1128 01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:22,560 You have seen all these big books here with 1129 01:04:23,573 --> 01:04:25,900 Arocki, and Leni Riefenstahl, and so. 1130 01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:28,123 Yours is, of course, a little bit bigger. 1131 01:04:29,230 --> 01:04:30,063 Of course. 1132 01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:32,800 How can we else do this? 1133 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,520 And then what we should do is, 1134 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,730 I brought you a couple of proofs here. 1135 01:04:37,730 --> 01:04:39,657 And let's just think about 1136 01:04:39,657 --> 01:04:42,090 the color corrections, and what we can do. 1137 01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:44,390 Hey, the old church. This is perfect. 1138 01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:45,690 I think so too, yeah. 1139 01:04:45,690 --> 01:04:47,248 And this is your first wife? 1140 01:04:47,248 --> 01:04:49,170 Emma, yeah. Emma. 1141 01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:50,003 Wow. 1142 01:04:50,003 --> 01:04:53,110 You know, it was in this show in Madrid, as a big print. 1143 01:04:53,110 --> 01:04:55,380 And people love it there. 1144 01:04:55,380 --> 01:04:57,540 It's really wonderful. 1145 01:04:57,540 --> 01:04:59,410 So I think color wise, it's all fine here. 1146 01:04:59,410 --> 01:05:02,000 And that frame, that right, I think that's fine too. 1147 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:02,833 Don't you think so? 1148 01:05:02,833 --> 01:05:03,683 Absolutely. 1149 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,280 Okay, so this is here in Palm Springs, isn't it? 1150 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:08,343 That's the Birges House, 1151 01:05:08,343 --> 01:05:11,250 and Alfred Frey was the architect, perfect. 1152 01:05:11,250 --> 01:05:13,024 So in that case it's done. 1153 01:05:13,024 --> 01:05:15,024 That's Montreal, Canada. 1154 01:05:15,024 --> 01:05:16,273 Oh that's cool. 1155 01:05:16,273 --> 01:05:18,240 This is the secret is to 1156 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,080 have the same values of light here as here. 1157 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,050 This is sun light. That's God. This is Julius. 1158 01:05:26,050 --> 01:05:28,670 God and Julius. That's cool. 1159 01:05:28,670 --> 01:05:30,420 I think that's a great combination. 1160 01:05:31,830 --> 01:05:36,090 Julius, you know for the book, when we do it, 1161 01:05:36,090 --> 01:05:37,670 I think in the next couple of days, 1162 01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:40,643 I hope you will receive the signature pages, 1163 01:05:41,830 --> 01:05:44,450 so that you can sign them all, the 2,500. 1164 01:05:44,450 --> 01:05:47,619 And then we later on bind it in the final book. 1165 01:05:47,619 --> 01:05:49,410 Good. No problem, that'll be all right. 1166 01:05:49,410 --> 01:05:51,010 Good, so we don't have to make 1167 01:05:51,010 --> 01:05:53,160 too many corrections here, just a very few. 1168 01:05:55,050 --> 01:05:56,520 Julius, if you would like to say hello, 1169 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,627 we have a sales meeting here. 1170 01:06:01,414 --> 01:06:02,817 See, the like you. 1171 01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:46,480 The architecture of Southern California, 1172 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,050 modernism is associated with the idea of lifestyle. 1173 01:06:50,050 --> 01:06:54,470 Modernism less as something that is a societal utopia, 1174 01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:57,460 and more as something that is a personal utopia. 1175 01:06:57,460 --> 01:06:59,010 And Julius's work has had 1176 01:06:59,010 --> 01:07:01,033 a huge influence in that perception. 1177 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,183 Is there a broom or a brush? The carpet. 1178 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,673 The footprints, get rid of the ones here. 1179 01:07:11,267 --> 01:07:13,183 There, right there, hold it. 1180 01:07:14,192 --> 01:07:16,090 Move this chair over there. 1181 01:07:16,090 --> 01:07:18,210 This table, the same way. 1182 01:07:18,210 --> 01:07:20,010 He sort of really set the standard 1183 01:07:20,010 --> 01:07:24,123 for the depiction of everyday life in a modern home. 1184 01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:26,083 The other chair, 1185 01:07:26,083 --> 01:07:28,743 slide that back a little bit towards the window. 1186 01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:31,080 Good. 1187 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,710 And you drop this down here, you got more floor. Perfect. 1188 01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:36,191 All right, let's do it. 1189 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:43,240 Schulman's pictures have this base of a romance to them. 1190 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,340 His work represents a certain ideal that happened years ago. 1191 01:07:48,340 --> 01:07:49,480 And yet it helped 1192 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:54,480 create the essence and ethos of this city. 1193 01:07:57,380 --> 01:07:59,000 My house. 1194 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,160 Where, where, where? 1195 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:01,993 Here. 1196 01:08:03,490 --> 01:08:05,669 He got me my first client. 1197 01:08:05,669 --> 01:08:07,270 And then when I got out of school, 1198 01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:09,090 he got me my second client, 1199 01:08:09,090 --> 01:08:10,950 his brother-in-law, or ex brother-in-law. 1200 01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:12,077 Yeah, Jerry Shrome. 1201 01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:15,320 That's the living room. 1202 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,640 These two things are guests. 1203 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,930 And one thing that Julius also did, 1204 01:08:18,930 --> 01:08:20,940 even though he didn't, he wasn't successful, 1205 01:08:20,940 --> 01:08:23,467 he tried to get "Arts and Architecture" 1206 01:08:23,467 --> 01:08:27,023 to be interested in my work. 1207 01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:29,610 They didn't like my work, so. 1208 01:08:29,610 --> 01:08:32,823 But that wasn't his fault. He tried. I remember. 1209 01:08:34,190 --> 01:08:35,993 I'm glad to see this, it's shaping out. 1210 01:08:35,993 --> 01:08:37,713 Yeah, it's this principle, 1211 01:08:39,190 --> 01:08:41,870 that the pieces interlock and they can. 1212 01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:46,070 So I found a drawing by Leonardo, the same. 1213 01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:47,240 No. Yeah. 1214 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,440 So then I said, but I found the drawing after I did this. 1215 01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:51,876 So he copied me, I said. 1216 01:08:53,530 --> 01:08:57,010 We were very influenced by Harwell Harris, 1217 01:08:57,010 --> 01:08:59,723 Frank Lloyd Wright, Japan. 1218 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,470 So I came out of that, it wasn't. 1219 01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:04,820 I didn't just invent a language. 1220 01:09:04,820 --> 01:09:08,620 Your presentation of the initial Disney Center design 1221 01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:11,680 left a lot of people aghast. 1222 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,867 My God, they would say. 1223 01:09:12,867 --> 01:09:15,720 And I say I was one of those too. 1224 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,660 Your vocabulary was foreign to us. 1225 01:09:18,660 --> 01:09:23,420 But you explain here that there is a misinterpretation 1226 01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:25,620 of your design for the Disney Center. 1227 01:09:25,620 --> 01:09:28,850 And you gave me a note about my redemption. 1228 01:09:28,850 --> 01:09:31,180 I formalized it by saying 1229 01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:35,970 that this was their redemption of Julius, with love. 1230 01:09:35,970 --> 01:09:40,970 Well, you redeemed yourself, and I in turn- 1231 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,147 Got redeemed. 1232 01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:46,980 Right here. 1233 01:09:46,980 --> 01:09:50,000 So we see where this wall meets that wall, 1234 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:50,900 those angles here. 1235 01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:54,300 So let's get rid of. 1236 01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:57,250 In doing so we get more ceiling. Ceiling is very important. 1237 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,183 That's not bad, that's almost, 1238 01:10:02,183 --> 01:10:03,910 almost that's the exposure. 1239 01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:05,993 A little bit more. 1240 01:10:08,540 --> 01:10:11,193 I'm showing the beginning and end of the walls. 1241 01:10:12,420 --> 01:10:14,450 So it's as simple. 1242 01:10:14,450 --> 01:10:16,393 It's an architectural story. 1243 01:10:23,580 --> 01:10:24,883 This is perfect exposure. 1244 01:10:25,810 --> 01:10:28,987 I think so, yeah. We can do it in that way. 1245 01:10:31,547 --> 01:10:32,760 The bottom of the stage here, 1246 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,160 when that's enlarged into a reproduction, 1247 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,800 that's gonna show the story, 1248 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,570 how this is related to that wall. 1249 01:10:39,570 --> 01:10:42,850 See it comes around here, back around here. 1250 01:10:42,850 --> 01:10:44,000 So we have a perimeter. 1251 01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:47,693 That gets everything. 1252 01:10:47,693 --> 01:10:50,010 Did it? Yeah. The point. 1253 01:10:50,010 --> 01:10:51,100 How about the bottom? 1254 01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:54,127 Everything. We can crop there. 1255 01:10:54,127 --> 01:10:57,938 But we do not need now, because I don't want to go. 1256 01:10:57,938 --> 01:10:59,693 Can you see the top, here? We get everything. 1257 01:11:01,410 --> 01:11:03,160 That's fine. Let me look at that. 1258 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:05,660 Oh, wait a minute. 1259 01:11:06,930 --> 01:11:11,930 How about putting on 75, and doing a horizontal one? 1260 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,953 All right, there's your rising front. 1261 01:11:15,953 --> 01:11:18,490 We have big notations in this too. 1262 01:11:18,490 --> 01:11:20,800 Let me check the poll light, shall we? 1263 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,650 See, we are getting dark in the corner. 1264 01:11:22,650 --> 01:11:24,200 I like that. I want that. 1265 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,350 It's a part view. 1266 01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:26,950 No, we always do that in our pictures. 1267 01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:29,370 We darken the corners always. So there really. 1268 01:11:29,370 --> 01:11:30,610 I never do that. 1269 01:11:30,610 --> 01:11:32,820 I do, and that's why people like my photography. 1270 01:11:32,820 --> 01:11:34,090 Okay. 1271 01:11:34,090 --> 01:11:36,140 I darken it purposely. 1272 01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:39,135 I control what I call the vision acoustics. 1273 01:12:36,059 --> 01:12:39,435 Folk lore is one thing, but working is another thing. 1274 01:12:39,435 --> 01:12:40,840 Especially that right now, 1275 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,573 the kind of architecture that you have documented, 1276 01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:46,860 that's so much in favor again. 1277 01:12:46,860 --> 01:12:50,650 And then you can see all these people come here to hear you. 1278 01:12:50,650 --> 01:12:52,410 Well, you've heard the term mazal tov, 1279 01:12:52,410 --> 01:12:55,504 when someone gets buried, I mean married. 1280 01:13:02,740 --> 01:13:07,740 So, apparently I've been graced with mazal, good luck, fate. 1281 01:13:11,230 --> 01:13:13,160 This photo is about architecture, 1282 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,888 but you also been very interested in the city, 1283 01:13:15,888 --> 01:13:18,462 specific ideas, I think, about the city. 1284 01:13:18,462 --> 01:13:20,230 Is that correct? 1285 01:13:20,230 --> 01:13:24,303 We have no control, no planning, no urban planning. 1286 01:13:26,150 --> 01:13:26,983 How would you like to live 1287 01:13:26,983 --> 01:13:29,102 somewheres in that pile of junk? 1288 01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:35,950 Can we control the real estate market? No. 1289 01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:39,823 But we can guide it, intelligently. 1290 01:13:49,437 --> 01:13:50,920 You are a rock star. 1291 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,560 A who? 1292 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,314 A rock star. 1293 01:13:54,314 --> 01:13:57,310 You're famous, like Elvis Presley all of a sudden. 1294 01:13:57,310 --> 01:13:58,816 Oh my God. What's the deal? 1295 01:13:58,816 --> 01:14:00,240 I'm better than he is. 1296 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,707 I'll say. 1297 01:14:01,707 --> 01:14:03,902 Let's go cut the cake here. 1298 01:14:03,902 --> 01:14:08,902 ♪ Happy birthday dear Julius ♪ 1299 01:14:08,939 --> 01:14:12,189 ♪ Happy birthday to me ♪ 1300 01:14:18,367 --> 01:14:21,290 The first toast is to my father, 1301 01:14:21,290 --> 01:14:25,320 a man whose curiosity and optimism 1302 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:30,200 has propelled him through a magnificent life. 1303 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,950 I would also like to have us all remember 1304 01:14:33,950 --> 01:14:37,303 the modernist architects who made my father's work possible. 1305 01:14:42,587 --> 01:14:44,010 Good night, Julius. Good night. 1306 01:14:44,010 --> 01:14:45,290 Good night. Good night, good night. 1307 01:14:45,290 --> 01:14:46,123 Thank you. 1308 01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:55,768 And this is the original concrete structure? 1309 01:14:55,768 --> 01:15:00,630 I have always admired Julius from the standpoint of his, 1310 01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:03,230 somebody who's together as he is, 1311 01:15:03,230 --> 01:15:05,760 and at his age and still is vital. 1312 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,540 He's being asked so often 1313 01:15:07,540 --> 01:15:12,540 to be out there and talk about where he's come from, 1314 01:15:13,330 --> 01:15:17,070 and where he's, what he believes in today. 1315 01:15:17,070 --> 01:15:20,980 The camera is the least important element in photography. 1316 01:15:20,980 --> 01:15:22,460 That's why in my seminars, 1317 01:15:22,460 --> 01:15:25,120 I will not permit the camera to be introduced 1318 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,350 until we look at what we're judging. 1319 01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:29,290 We've started a new organization, 1320 01:15:29,290 --> 01:15:32,700 called Julia Shulman Institute at Woodbury. 1321 01:15:32,700 --> 01:15:34,260 And we're starting a new program 1322 01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:37,480 for high school students, lecturing on photography. 1323 01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:39,130 Now in this composition, we're seeing 1324 01:15:39,130 --> 01:15:41,780 all the way into this dark part of the building here. 1325 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,670 President Nelson, it is my honor to present 1326 01:15:47,670 --> 01:15:50,550 Julius Shulman, the undisputed master 1327 01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:52,480 of architectural photography 1328 01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:56,260 for the honorary degree, Doctorate of Architecture. 1329 01:16:06,050 --> 01:16:09,160 Thank you all so much. 1330 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,520 I can't begin 1331 01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:17,343 to say what this means. 1332 01:16:18,580 --> 01:16:21,913 But I'm beginning a new life every day. 1333 01:16:23,410 --> 01:16:26,203 Let me fill you in on something very simple. 1334 01:16:27,930 --> 01:16:29,163 Life is good. 1335 01:16:30,590 --> 01:16:33,120 Life can be beautiful. 1336 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:34,880 What more can I ask? 1337 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,243 Thank you very much. 1338 01:16:40,257 --> 01:16:43,174 Beautiful, beautiful. Thank you. 1339 01:16:45,710 --> 01:16:48,070 Do you see yourself as a romanticist? 1340 01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:50,000 Oh yes. I have fun. 1341 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,991 I learned something, Julius, from talking with you. 1342 01:16:52,991 --> 01:16:55,650 I have a gate, and I've got a box from the shepherd. 1343 01:16:55,650 --> 01:16:56,680 I think that's when the greatest 1344 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,228 architecture pictures I've ever seen. 1345 01:16:58,228 --> 01:16:59,502 Yeah, that's wonderful, a great picture. 1346 01:16:59,502 --> 01:17:01,680 So this points out about photography, 1347 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,640 success, romanticism. 1348 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,630 If you're worried about the job you're gonna do, 1349 01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:08,700 you can't be bothered with a barking dog. 1350 01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:11,460 Come on, let's get him in the house. Let's go shooting, Joe. 1351 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:14,900 But if you're relaxed, and enjoy what's around you, 1352 01:17:14,900 --> 01:17:16,700 you speak to those dogs. 1353 01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:18,420 Julius, you enjoy your work, don't you? 1354 01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:20,313 Oh, what else is there? 1355 01:17:30,380 --> 01:17:33,860 The newly created Julius Shulman Institute 1356 01:17:33,860 --> 01:17:37,070 at Woodbury University, and the recent acquisition 1357 01:17:37,070 --> 01:17:40,720 of his archive by the Getty, has secured Shulman's place 1358 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,600 as one of modernism's most eloquent ambassadors. 1359 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,530 Both his personal and photographic legacy 1360 01:17:47,530 --> 01:17:51,800 continue to endure, perpetuating the philosophy, 1361 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,718 simple beauty, and pioneering spirit of modern architecture. 100109

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