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Dena: They made me feel like
such a bad mom.
Steve: You're not.
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You made the biggest choice
a mother could make,
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and the hardest one.
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You did what you knew
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was best for your babies
at that time,
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and you should never, ever,
ever apologize for that,
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feel guilty for that,
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feel any kind of shame
for that.
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Ever.
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Steve: I've been
a lot of things in my life.
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I've been a bank robber
and a prisoner,
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but being a shaman
is my calling.
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Ayahuasca
is a schedule‐I narcotic,
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the same as heroin and LSD,
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but it's not a drug,
it's medicine,
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and in my church,
it's a sacrament.
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We can do in two days
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what conventional therapy
may take years to do,
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but only if you are willing
to step in to the pain.
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♪♪
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Steve: Like I said,
keep your intentions on point.
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Good job.
Good job.
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♪♪
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Steve: Nicholas Mutts
is my stepson.
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He is our last child
in a line of 6
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between me and Teri.
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He's not my biological son.
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He is my stepson,
but I love him like my own.
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There's nothing
I don't trust Nik with,
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including my brew.
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We always want to make sure
our edge here is clean,
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especially after doing
that much mixing.
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Nik has been on a path
of being an assistant shaman
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for the last five years.
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He has worked with me
in the lab,
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always cleaning up,
always doing the shit jobs.
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There we go.
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But you know what?
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He showed me that
he really does want this.
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Nik: I've always been
someone that wanted
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to help people growing up.
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Even whenever I was
in elementary and such,
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I was always the kid
that tried to help anyone
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and everyone
when they needed a hand.
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And Steve encouraged me
whenever I was like,
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"Hey, I want to do this."
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And he was like, "Well,
if you really want to do it,
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just keep practicing, keep
putting your effort into it."
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Feel that lid.
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That's what it should always
feel like. Excellent.
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Now is the time
for Nik to move forward
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in his own self‐development
and his own self‐progression.
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He's got to be comfortable
within the medicine.
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Tonight, we're going to be
introducing Nik to ayahuasca
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for his first
really deep journey.
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It's important for Nik to drink
so that he has an understanding
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of what people
are going through,
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you know, when he's helping them
through their journeys.
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♪♪
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Steve: Well, Nik,
it very much pleases me
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to be about to give you
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your first full cup
of ayahuasca.
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You got to make
your own presence known
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among the different
spirits and entities.
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That's part of the path
to becoming a shaman.
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Thank you for
the opportunity.
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You a little nervous?
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I would be, too.
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Peace and progression.
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Peace and progression.
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♪♪
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Good job.
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♪♪
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Steve: From Teri,
I feel, of course,
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apprehension, you know?
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You can just imagine
if that as your child
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laying there motionless.
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It's easy to let
your imagination run wild.
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"Is he okay?
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Can I reach over and hug him
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and feel him like
he was in the cradle?"
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And she also knows,
logically, she can't.
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Right now, Nik is on
a path of independence.
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[ Insects chirping ]
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Nik: After having my first cup,
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I could sort of feel like
a little bit of a wave going on.
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Visually, things kind of
started to rock a little bit,
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kind of like a blast of imagery
just flying by,
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just a lot of things going on.
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Like, I could feel that
I'm physically there.
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I can still feel
the cot under me,
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but I feel sort of weightless,
in a way,
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kind of like a spider
being on its web.
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♪♪
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At one point,
I could have swore
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I saw Steve's face kind of
just smirking at me
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a little bit
from the background.
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♪♪
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Steve: Nik has
the heart and the spirit
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and the soul to do this.
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But I also know
that he's gonna have
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to prove himself
worthy and responsible
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because, one day,
I'm gonna have to leave Nik,
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and that's why I'm willing to
invest the time it's gonna take
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to make Nik a master shaman,
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and to eventually give him
the reigns of the church.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Nathan: It's so difficult
to explain
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when you wake up
from an overdose
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because you know that
they've just revived you,
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you know that
you [bleep] up big time.
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I was like, "Damn, Nate.
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Come on. Like really?
Like, again?"
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♪♪
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About four years ago,
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I tried opiates
for the first time.
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It was in the form of heroin.
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That relationship ended
with that drug
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about two years ago,
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and that's when I started
taking Subuxone,
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the medication they give you
for withdrawal symptoms.
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But, you know,
with the Subuxone,
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it's pretty much like putting
a Band‐Aid on a bullet wound.
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You know, there's still this
huge hole underneath there
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that needs to be dealt with,
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and if anything, you know,
I'm not dealing with that one.
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I'm, you know, continuing
to take something
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that's artificially making me
content and happy.
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I just want to be able
to just leave it behind
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when I leave from this place
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and just not go back
to it again.
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♪♪
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Ryan: When I first came to
Aya Quest about two years ago,
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I was on my last straw.
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I mean, I hit rock bottom.
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I was using crystal meth,
and I had overdosed,
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and I would constantly
beat myself up
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and just have these
thoughts in my brain
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that would just eat me alive.
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I haven't done drugs
since I've done ayahuasca.
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Mother Aya showed me
that I was worth more
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than what I thought.
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I wanted my mom to come
to Aya Quest
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because she's got
a lot of her own stuff
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that she needs to work on.
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♪♪
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[ Sighs deeply ]
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I was injured at work in 2006,
and I'm in a lot of pain.
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♪♪
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I have steel rods in my back
and my legs don't work,
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and I've almost
committed suicide
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'cause of the pain.
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I have a lot of intentions
for coming here ‐‐
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physical healing and mentally.
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I've been trying to change
myself and my issues
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for years and years and years,
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but I've had not much success
on my own.
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♪♪
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I hope this will be the answer.
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♪♪
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Hey.
Come on in.
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‐Hey.
‐I'm Walter.
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Nice to meet you,
Walter.
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How you doing, dude?
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Teri: Thank you all very much
for coming.
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The first thing
we are going to do today is,
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we will be taking
all car keys and cell phones.
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If you would all like to get
your things and follow me,
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we will go down,
and you will see
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where you will be spending
the next few days.
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You all can come on in.
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‐Wow.
‐Find you a bed.
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Wow‐ee.
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Teri: With this group,
we have Sheila and Ryan,
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we have Nathan,
and we have Dena.
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I've been dealing
with depression and anxiety
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for about 16 years now.
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I was raped when I was 14.
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It was a family member.
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So, I can't trust
anybody else now.
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♪♪
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I'm looking to heal
from the mistrust
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that I feel
from all of the things
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that have happened
in the past.
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[ Voice breaking ] Wow.
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I didn't expect
to get this emotional.
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I really didn't.
[ Inhales deeply ]
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♪♪
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Everybody, I'm Steve Hupp,
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chief shaman of Aya Quest
Native Americas Church.
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How are y'all doing tonight?
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‐Good.
‐Good?
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Ryan, this is like
old times here
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seeing you across the chair
here from me, you know?
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And who is this beautiful woman
to your left?
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‐I'm his mother.
‐I couldn't have told a bit.
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Let me shake your hand,
Sheila.
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‐I love you.
‐I love you, too.
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And thank you
for all your ‐‐
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I love you really for all
you've done for my son.
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Well, thank you.
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Now, just to let y'all know,
the reason you had
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to give up your car keys
was because
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of this gentleman right here.
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He changed my whole rules
when it come to car keys
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'cause in the middle
of his first night journey,
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he went out to get a pack
of cigarettes from his car
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and drove away.
Really?
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Pretty much in his underwear
and everything.
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What?
And I mean, was gone.
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Scared me to death, man.
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Had me pacing for ‐‐
'Cause, you know,
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I don't want to call
the cops on him,
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but at some point,
I have to because, yeah,
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you're out here
tripping and driving.
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[ Laughter ]
I can't let this go.
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But anyway, he made it home.
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Everything worked out
for the best.
Really?
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And we journeyed the second day,
and guess what?
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Everything worked out,
everything went fine.
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But sometimes, if you're
in a deep experience,
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you can kinda get overwhelmed,
and that's what happened to him.
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He had a flash,
and he just wanted to run.
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He ain't the first one.
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That's why we kind of keep you
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all locked up and sequestered
a little bit.
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♪♪
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Teri: We're gonna
give you a cup,
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we're going to wait
about 20 minutes,
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and we're going to give you
a second cup after that
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and nothing for 2 hours.
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After that,
as long as you are
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handling the experience
in a good way,
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I will pour you more.
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♪♪
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Nathan: You know,
my nervousness was at its peak.
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I started to feel
overwhelming anxiety,
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like, "What is this
going to be like?
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Is it going to take me
to a different world?
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Am I going to have
a horrible time?
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Like, am I going to end up
freaking out?"
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Dena: I'm scared.
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I'm not really 100% sure
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that ayahuasca is
going to help me.
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Hopefully, it brings me
an amazing experience.
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Sheila: I was very nervous,
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very fearful
of going on a bad trip
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and not coming back.
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♪♪
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Steve: Ayahuasca's
a hallucinogenic tea
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made with plants
from the Amazon,
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and it is the strongest
psychedelic known to man.
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But this isn't like LSD.
255
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Ayahuasca's a portal
to your inner self,
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your subconscious.
257
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And through that portal,
you're going to meet a goddess
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we call "Mother Aya".
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When your journey
first takes off,
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you may feel euphoria until ‐‐
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Boom! ‐‐
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the spike hits,
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and the purge begins.
264
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You may laugh, you may cry,
265
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and you may do both
at the same time.
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You may puke or shit.
267
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But each of those purges are
a physical manifestation
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of an emotional release.
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That's when you truly
find healing.
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♪♪
271
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[ Sighs ]
As soon as I drank,
272
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I felt this wave of calm
just come down my body.
273
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My parents were both, you know,
274
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pretty involved with drugs.
275
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They weren't suitable
to be parents,
276
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so I actually lived
with my grandparents.
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My dad spent most of
my childhood in prison.
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He actually ended up dying
of a drug overdose.
279
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So, I always told myself
growing up, like,
280
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"I'm never, never
gonna do drugs."
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My son's mother ‐‐
I met her through a friend.
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We were ultimately together
for five‐and‐a‐half years.
283
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We have one son.
Love him to death.
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He's 5 now.
285
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I had taken a couple months off
from work to watch our son.
286
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I was there with him full‐time.
287
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So, when I came home
and she wasn't there
288
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and my son wasn't there,
it really made me feel horrible.
289
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You know, it just made me feel
like I was just a babysitter.
290
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She just packed all
of her stuff, she left,
291
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she didn't say,
like, you know,
292
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"I'm leaving"
or anything like that.
293
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I just came home,
and everything was gone,
294
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including my son.
295
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It was really rough,
and I didn't know
296
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how to cope with that,
and that led to severe drinking,
297
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and then after that,
into the opiates.
298
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When I lost my son's mom,
I remember crying,
299
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bawling the whole night.
300
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My grandmother, Nancy,
301
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she sat there with me
the whole night,
302
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and, you know, just having
somebody in that way
303
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it's just, like ‐‐
304
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it's ‐‐ it's just such
a beautiful thing.
305
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Sometimes I think to myself,
you know,
306
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for everything
that she's done, like,
307
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I shouldn't be
feeling this sad.
308
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And I tell her all the time,
309
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"Don't feel bad
that I feel negative.
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Like, you've...
311
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you've already done,
like, so much."
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So, yeah, that's where
we're at with that.
313
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[ Sighs ]
314
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Tell me about
your first O. D.
315
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I was driving,
316
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and I went out
while I was driving
317
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and I crashed my car.
318
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♪♪
319
00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:23,401
♪♪
320
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You can tell Sheila is
in a lot of pain
321
00:14:25,323 --> 00:14:27,783
and a lot of discomfort.
322
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Mother Aya can work
with physical pain,
323
00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:31,542
she can work
with psychological pain,
324
00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:34,287
and she can work
with spiritual pain.
325
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The entities that she works
with and through
326
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have a way of healing
that I really can't explain.
327
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All I know is,
is I set the arena,
328
00:14:44,675 --> 00:14:47,755
I ask Mother to come
and join us,
329
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and I get out of the way.
330
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♪♪
331
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Sheila: I laid down
and asked Mother Aya
332
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to take the pain from me
so I could relax more,
333
00:14:56,646 --> 00:14:59,856
and she came right away.
334
00:14:59,857 --> 00:15:03,107
She was letting me know,
"I'm here.
335
00:15:03,111 --> 00:15:05,321
It's about time
you got your butt here,
336
00:15:05,321 --> 00:15:07,321
and we got to get to work now."
337
00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:10,663
♪♪
338
00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:13,620
When Ryan was about
11 months old,
339
00:15:13,621 --> 00:15:17,671
his dad's drinking got worse.
340
00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:20,087
One day, he smacked him so hard
341
00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:23,006
he knocked him out of the chair.
342
00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:26,675
And one night, he was
really, really intoxicated
343
00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:29,006
when he came in about
3:00 in the morning.
344
00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:31,971
He put the pillow over my head
and raped me.
345
00:15:31,973 --> 00:15:35,643
♪♪
346
00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:37,353
When I opened my eyes,
347
00:15:37,353 --> 00:15:40,693
Ryan was standing
at the end of the bed.
348
00:15:40,690 --> 00:15:45,280
Instantly, my heart just busted
into a tiny million pieces,
349
00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,698
that he had seen that.
350
00:15:47,697 --> 00:15:49,567
♪♪
351
00:15:49,574 --> 00:15:51,834
Ryan: Most of the part
that I remember from it
352
00:15:51,826 --> 00:15:56,616
was him laying in bed crying
and just screaming,
353
00:15:56,622 --> 00:15:59,292
talking about
he just wanted to die,
354
00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:01,842
and he just jumped up
and kicked me in the chest
355
00:16:01,836 --> 00:16:06,166
and this crazy, crazy shit.
356
00:16:06,174 --> 00:16:10,054
I didn't leave my husband
for a long time after that.
357
00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:14,432
I couldn't.
I didn't have a job or money.
358
00:16:14,432 --> 00:16:18,102
But he did it again...
a few years later.
359
00:16:18,102 --> 00:16:22,022
That was the day I decided
I had to leave him.
360
00:16:22,023 --> 00:16:24,153
I didn't want to leave
my kids there.
361
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:26,860
They wouldn't come with me.
362
00:16:26,861 --> 00:16:29,701
My heart was broken.
363
00:16:29,697 --> 00:16:31,737
In my house,
we had rules and bedtime,
364
00:16:31,741 --> 00:16:33,411
and they had chores.
365
00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:35,329
At their dad's house,
there was none of that,
366
00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:38,458
and he bought them cigarettes.
367
00:16:38,456 --> 00:16:41,536
It was just a free‐for‐all.
368
00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:46,092
Ryan was 17 when I left.
369
00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:50,178
By this point, he was doing
drugs and drinking a lot.
370
00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,886
Ryan: I definitely
resented my mom.
371
00:16:52,887 --> 00:16:56,387
I had felt like, "Why in the
hell is she doing this to me?"
372
00:16:56,390 --> 00:17:00,520
And I‐I just couldn't grasp it.
373
00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:04,149
I was just, I guess,
just like, "Screw this.
374
00:17:04,148 --> 00:17:05,568
I don't want no part of it."
375
00:17:05,566 --> 00:17:08,026
Sheila: I have three kids,
376
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:10,857
and they're all three
drug addicts.
377
00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:14,283
I have tons of guilt from that.
378
00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:17,663
Guilt will [bleep] you up,
379
00:17:17,662 --> 00:17:22,882
and I think the guilt and shame
are a big cause of my pain.
380
00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:32,335
♪♪
381
00:17:32,343 --> 00:17:33,803
Steve: Nathan is here
because he was
382
00:17:33,803 --> 00:17:36,393
an opiate addict on Subuxone.
383
00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:40,429
Subuxone is a drug used
to keep the dope‐sick away ‐‐
384
00:17:40,434 --> 00:17:43,404
to keep the physical
withdrawal symptoms at bay,
385
00:17:43,396 --> 00:17:45,686
to help the mind be
a little more clear
386
00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:47,400
so they're not so focused on
387
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,530
"Where's my next fix
coming from?"
388
00:17:49,527 --> 00:17:51,447
But it is not a cure,
389
00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:54,195
and that's why you got to get
to the root of the problem.
390
00:17:54,198 --> 00:17:55,908
Please have a seat there.
391
00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,118
I chose the arena of reflection
for Nathan
392
00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,579
because I felt Nathan had to
deal with some very deep guilt,
393
00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:04,251
and we had to get him
to look at himself,
394
00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:07,340
to let this pocket of shit
go out of his head
395
00:18:07,336 --> 00:18:08,796
because that's what
was helping him
396
00:18:08,796 --> 00:18:10,586
cling to to this addiction,
397
00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,470
and I wanted Nathan to see that
398
00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:14,256
and I wanted him
to look at himself
399
00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:18,390
from many different angles
where he couldn't turn away.
400
00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:20,019
Steve: For right now,
I just want you to sit there
401
00:18:20,016 --> 00:18:22,226
and kind of take in all
the different reflection,
402
00:18:22,226 --> 00:18:24,306
all the different
areas and angles
403
00:18:24,312 --> 00:18:26,442
that's coming in for you.
404
00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:28,819
Now, does addiction run
in your family or...
405
00:18:28,816 --> 00:18:31,276
Nathan: Yeah, my father
passed away of a drug overdose.
406
00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:34,527
Okay, what would your son be
able to say to you
407
00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:37,530
to keep you working
towards sobriety?
408
00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:41,583
'Cause you've been
that son.
409
00:18:41,579 --> 00:18:43,539
Yeah, my son does have
a huge impact.
410
00:18:43,539 --> 00:18:45,579
You know,
even at 5 years old,
411
00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:47,503
very encouraging,
very loving person,
412
00:18:47,501 --> 00:18:48,751
and that's why
I don't want this
413
00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:50,423
to be in the picture
when he's older.
414
00:18:50,421 --> 00:18:55,091
Like, even now, so I don't
want it in the picture.
415
00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:57,552
When did your opiate problem
start?
416
00:18:57,553 --> 00:19:01,223
So, yeah, that was
four years ago,
417
00:19:01,223 --> 00:19:02,733
in October.
418
00:19:02,725 --> 00:19:04,725
Tell me about
your first O. D.
419
00:19:04,727 --> 00:19:07,937
I was driving,
and I crashed my car.
420
00:19:07,938 --> 00:19:09,268
What about
the second time?
421
00:19:09,273 --> 00:19:10,483
The second time,
I was in my house,
422
00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:12,193
and my grandmother
saved my life.
423
00:19:12,193 --> 00:19:15,783
She had gone to bed,
and she came out and she, like,
424
00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:17,110
obviously saw that
I was on the floor
425
00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:18,874
and I wasn't breathing.
426
00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:22,786
So, she gave me CPR
and called the ambulance.
427
00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:24,207
Wow.
She resuscitated you.
428
00:19:24,205 --> 00:19:25,745
She did.
That's correct.
429
00:19:25,748 --> 00:19:27,038
You harbor some guilt
430
00:19:27,041 --> 00:19:28,711
where your grandmother
was concerned
431
00:19:28,709 --> 00:19:31,459
that she had to resuscitate you
because I guarantee it,
432
00:19:31,462 --> 00:19:33,632
that was brutal on her.
Yeah. Yeah.
433
00:19:33,631 --> 00:19:35,341
And I'm sure it was hard
to watch her cry...
434
00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:36,971
Yeah.
435
00:19:36,967 --> 00:19:40,887
...because I'm sure
it really jacked her up.
436
00:19:40,888 --> 00:19:43,138
I want you to forgive yourself
for that guilt,
437
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:45,640
because I'm sure
she has already forgiven you.
438
00:19:45,643 --> 00:19:47,143
She ‐‐
She has.
439
00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:48,854
But I feel from you
that you haven't quite
440
00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:50,614
forgiven yourself
for that
441
00:19:50,606 --> 00:19:52,976
because your demeanor
totally changed
442
00:19:52,983 --> 00:19:54,193
when we went
into that event.
443
00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:55,573
Mm.
444
00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,409
For right now,
I want you to sit here
445
00:19:57,405 --> 00:19:59,735
and just meditate
in the glow of these lights,
446
00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,580
and I want you to just focus
on the person
447
00:20:02,576 --> 00:20:04,996
that Nathan is
trying to become.
448
00:20:04,995 --> 00:20:06,705
I want you to focus on
449
00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:09,036
if Nathan could paint
the perfect Nathan,
450
00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:10,671
what would that
Nathan look like?
451
00:20:10,668 --> 00:20:12,458
Mm.
452
00:20:12,461 --> 00:20:16,261
Steve: Nathan's body language
and demeanor told me
453
00:20:16,257 --> 00:20:19,217
that his self‐esteem
is in the basement.
454
00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:23,058
He couldn't stand to make
eye contact with himself.
455
00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:26,305
Even his whole aura
seemed to shrink
456
00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:28,098
at this one mention
457
00:20:28,102 --> 00:20:31,522
of this one day
in an addict's life.
458
00:20:31,522 --> 00:20:35,032
This is what must be brought
to the surface to be purged.
459
00:20:35,025 --> 00:20:37,695
There's no drug to turn to.
Mother ain't going to let you.
460
00:20:37,695 --> 00:20:39,815
Mother's going to hold up
this mirror and say,
461
00:20:39,822 --> 00:20:42,032
"Look at yourself
462
00:20:42,032 --> 00:20:46,082
and love yourself
even with all your flaws,
463
00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:49,538
and that's when things will
start to get better."
464
00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:53,040
The first thing I saw, I would
consider them to be demons.
465
00:20:53,043 --> 00:20:55,883
Their faces were all kind of
nasty and grimacing
466
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,480
and had, like, gnashing teeth.
467
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:10,981
♪♪
468
00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:12,308
Nik: If you could,
I'd like for you to have
469
00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:14,613
a seat right here,
Miss Dena.
470
00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,227
Steve: I would not let Nik
as my assistant shaman
471
00:21:17,234 --> 00:21:19,784
every become a one‐trick pony.
472
00:21:19,779 --> 00:21:21,489
He has to be well‐rounded,
473
00:21:21,489 --> 00:21:23,699
and the first thing you got
to do is be patient
474
00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:25,199
and learn how to communicate.
475
00:21:25,201 --> 00:21:27,161
We judge nothing.
476
00:21:27,161 --> 00:21:30,041
For this ceremony,
I want Nik to work with Dena
477
00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:31,789
to make to make a negative sigil
478
00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:34,921
for her to identify
what she needs to let go,
479
00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:36,999
and that's not going
to be easy for her.
480
00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:39,174
We have to do it in such a way
481
00:21:39,173 --> 00:21:42,383
not to shut
this wounded soul down,
482
00:21:42,384 --> 00:21:45,854
but to help
this wounded soul heal.
483
00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:47,346
Steve wanted me to do
a little bit
484
00:21:47,348 --> 00:21:49,138
of an exercise
with you here.
485
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,641
You're going to want to make
a list of things
486
00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:52,443
that you don't like
personally about you.
487
00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:54,936
And it can be as personal
as you want
488
00:21:54,939 --> 00:21:56,319
or just simple things
that you feel
489
00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,275
kind of hold you
back in life.
490
00:21:58,275 --> 00:22:00,025
Okay.
491
00:22:00,027 --> 00:22:02,607
♪♪
492
00:22:02,613 --> 00:22:05,033
Dena: My very first
memory in life ‐‐
493
00:22:05,032 --> 00:22:09,702
I was probably 3 or 4,
and I remember waking up
494
00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:12,373
to the babysitter's son
molesting me.
495
00:22:12,373 --> 00:22:15,713
I was raped when I was 14,
and I kept it to myself,
496
00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:18,629
and I didn't tell anybody
for years and years.
497
00:22:18,629 --> 00:22:20,839
I got really good
at internalizing things,
498
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,930
hiding them.
499
00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:26,046
I was in an 8‐year‐long
relationship
500
00:22:26,053 --> 00:22:30,183
with a man that I loved
very, very, very much,
501
00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:33,892
and we were married
for four of those years.
502
00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:36,864
He saved me from
a lot of heartache.
503
00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:39,726
But I kept swinging
back and forth
504
00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:42,323
between the depression
and the extreme happiness.
505
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:43,699
It's like I couldn't breathe.
506
00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:45,406
It was a roller coaster
507
00:22:45,406 --> 00:22:48,736
of happy, sad, happy, sad,
happy, sad.
508
00:22:48,742 --> 00:22:52,082
And I didn't know what to do,
509
00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,369
I didn't know how
to explain it to him.
510
00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:55,923
I could tell that
he wasn't there anymore,
511
00:22:55,916 --> 00:22:57,586
like emotionally and physically.
512
00:22:57,585 --> 00:23:00,415
Like, he just wasn't there,
and I said as much.
513
00:23:00,421 --> 00:23:02,381
And he was like, "I think
we need to get a divorce.
514
00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,631
Like, I'm not happy anymore."
515
00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:08,853
And that was it.
516
00:23:08,846 --> 00:23:10,846
It hurt.
517
00:23:10,848 --> 00:23:13,178
[ Voice breaking ]
It hurt a lot.
518
00:23:13,183 --> 00:23:14,483
I was very suicidal.
519
00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:18,476
Um...
520
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,440
There was a couple of times,
actually,
521
00:23:20,441 --> 00:23:25,861
that I got my van
up to very high speeds,
522
00:23:25,863 --> 00:23:27,033
and I was going to wreck it.
523
00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:29,071
[ Chuckles ]
524
00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:33,664
♪♪
525
00:23:33,662 --> 00:23:35,712
I eventually moved out
and moved in with my dad,
526
00:23:35,706 --> 00:23:38,746
and I left my two boys
527
00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:40,751
with their father
in North Carolina
528
00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:42,463
because, honestly,
I don't feel like
529
00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:46,513
I could have done the best job
at raising them.
530
00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:47,838
I want my children to have
531
00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:49,683
the best life
that they can have.
532
00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:53,308
[ Sniffles ]
533
00:23:53,307 --> 00:23:57,187
So, I'm here to make sure
that that happens.
534
00:23:57,186 --> 00:23:59,226
♪♪
535
00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:01,689
‐How we all doing?
‐Good.
536
00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:03,820
Steve: I'm proud of each
and every one of you.
537
00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:07,777
All of you have already laid
a very strong foundation
538
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:12,490
for a very powerful
experience tonight.
539
00:24:12,493 --> 00:24:14,833
Tonight, the medicine's
a little stronger.
540
00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:17,458
So, remember your tenets ‐‐
541
00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:21,496
just is, accept and allow,
and relax.
542
00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:22,882
You all get to a point
543
00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:24,168
where you want more
this evening,
544
00:24:24,171 --> 00:24:25,631
just like last night,
you know ‐‐
545
00:24:25,631 --> 00:24:28,971
as long as you're
within reason, absolutely.
546
00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:31,968
Steve: To see a mother and a son
sitting here beside me...
547
00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:33,721
‐I know.
‐...this is just huge.
548
00:24:33,722 --> 00:24:35,102
How do you feel this morning
when you got up?
549
00:24:35,099 --> 00:24:36,889
I had a lot of pain.
550
00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:39,102
It started in the night.
551
00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:41,653
Hopefully, we can
adjust that tonight.
552
00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:45,437
Sheila: Mother Aya was
very kind and compassionate
553
00:24:45,442 --> 00:24:46,992
and loving with me last night,
554
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:52,156
and I think tonight,
shit's going to get deep,
555
00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:54,487
and it's probably not
going to be pretty.
556
00:24:54,493 --> 00:25:04,093
♪♪
557
00:25:04,086 --> 00:25:05,706
Nathan: I drank off the brew.
558
00:25:05,713 --> 00:25:09,683
I started to really almost,
like, throw it up,
559
00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,635
and I went outside with Walter,
you know,
560
00:25:11,635 --> 00:25:14,005
smoke a cigarette
before we got started.
561
00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:16,183
And I think I got about halfway
through my cigarette
562
00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:17,681
before the bush
in front of me
563
00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:19,693
started to really,
you know, start going.
564
00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:22,515
It was moving, and I sat there
to myself, and I said,
565
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:25,151
"Holy shit, we're gonna be
in for a ride tonight."
566
00:25:25,149 --> 00:25:27,899
At that point in time,
567
00:25:27,901 --> 00:25:30,781
I had some pretty
intense visuals.
568
00:25:30,779 --> 00:25:32,609
Everything was swirling
around on top of me.
569
00:25:32,614 --> 00:25:35,164
I was hearing...
570
00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:38,409
The first thing I saw, I would
consider them to be demons.
571
00:25:38,412 --> 00:25:40,082
There was massive
amounts of them,
572
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,000
and their faces were all kind of
nasty and grimacing
573
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,330
and had, like, gnashing teeth.
574
00:25:44,334 --> 00:25:45,754
And I think that those were
575
00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:48,303
all the negative things
inside of me.
576
00:25:48,297 --> 00:25:52,217
I had this one scene
where I saw Subuxone.
577
00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:54,927
The thing was huge, like,
I saw in my head ‐‐ gigantic.
578
00:25:54,928 --> 00:25:56,758
And I saw something puncture
579
00:25:56,764 --> 00:25:59,354
right through
that piece of medication.
580
00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:01,809
That's when I started to,
like, see the shackles,
581
00:26:01,810 --> 00:26:04,690
and I started to hear
the mantra, "This is slavery.
582
00:26:04,688 --> 00:26:06,688
This is bondage.
This is not for you.
583
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,230
[ Echoing ] This is slavery.
This is bondage.
584
00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:09,783
This is not for you."
585
00:26:09,777 --> 00:26:11,147
And it was at that point
that I started
586
00:26:11,153 --> 00:26:13,913
to kind of feel, like,
"Wow. Holy cow.
587
00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:15,486
Just let it go.
Just let it go."
588
00:26:15,491 --> 00:26:17,741
And at that point,
I really let it go.
589
00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:20,293
Just let it go.
590
00:26:20,287 --> 00:26:25,417
I had really just purged out
some very negative stuff.
591
00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:27,037
I felt amazing.
592
00:26:27,044 --> 00:26:29,714
[ Sniffles ]
593
00:26:29,713 --> 00:26:31,423
[ Exhales sharply ]
594
00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:33,883
Sheila: I went
90 miles an hour
595
00:26:33,884 --> 00:26:37,184
to get him to the hospital
last time he O. D.'d.
596
00:26:37,179 --> 00:26:39,889
He kept saying,
"I'm dying. I'm dying.
597
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:40,580
I'm dying."
598
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:51,275
♪♪
599
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:54,396
Steve: I got you. I got you.
Just come on down.
600
00:26:54,404 --> 00:26:57,244
Sheila's here
for physical healing,
601
00:26:57,241 --> 00:26:59,541
spiritual healing,
and psychological healing.
602
00:26:59,535 --> 00:27:01,945
Steve: Come on in.
603
00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:03,714
‐And if you would, sit ‐‐
‐Which end is my head?
604
00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,205
Your head's right here.
605
00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:06,247
We want to try to get
your head right here.
606
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,540
Oh, I see it.
607
00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,673
Teri: The plan for
Sheila tonight ‐‐
608
00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:12,920
we have a chakra bed
that we're going to use
609
00:27:12,923 --> 00:27:15,933
to get her chakras
realigned and opened.
610
00:27:15,926 --> 00:27:17,336
There you go.
611
00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:20,314
Your chakras are energy points
612
00:27:20,305 --> 00:27:25,515
for different aspects
of your physical body.
613
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:29,229
I hope that she gets
the spiritual healing
614
00:27:29,231 --> 00:27:34,651
to release and let go,
and I hope she finds peace.
615
00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,993
We put this focus
on the ceremony
616
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:40,239
to Mother Aya
as removing our guilt.
617
00:27:40,242 --> 00:27:42,042
Okay, I'm going for it.
618
00:27:42,035 --> 00:27:46,745
Because carrying that guilt
is not working for you.
619
00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:48,828
See, it's not just Ryan.
620
00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:50,754
I've got three
drug addict kids ‐‐
621
00:27:50,752 --> 00:27:53,512
all three of my kids.
622
00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:55,335
Not just me,
623
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:58,340
but other people always put it
on the mother.
624
00:27:58,343 --> 00:27:59,763
"Well, if you would've
whipped them more,
625
00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:01,101
if you would've..."
626
00:28:01,096 --> 00:28:03,136
Were you there?
Yes, you were.
627
00:28:03,140 --> 00:28:05,890
Was it all on you?
No, it was not.
628
00:28:05,893 --> 00:28:07,603
There was a whole synergy
of things.
629
00:28:07,603 --> 00:28:10,063
One, you were in
a toxic relationship
630
00:28:10,063 --> 00:28:12,323
with a person
of predatory instincts
631
00:28:12,316 --> 00:28:14,316
and predatory desires.
632
00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:16,818
That wasn't
your fault either.
633
00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:19,410
You got children
who are alive
634
00:28:19,406 --> 00:28:23,076
because you got them there
in a [bleep]‐up situation.
635
00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:25,496
I went 90 miles an hour
to get him
636
00:28:25,495 --> 00:28:28,865
to the hospital
last time he O. D.'d.
637
00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:33,004
I was afraid...
very afraid.
638
00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:35,713
But he kept saying,
"I'm dying.
639
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,264
I'm dying.
I'm dying."
640
00:28:37,257 --> 00:28:40,047
And...
641
00:28:40,052 --> 00:28:43,642
[Voice breaking] telling me
how sorry he was...
642
00:28:43,639 --> 00:28:48,599
Okay.
...for making my life
miserable
643
00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:52,112
and putting me
through Hell.
644
00:28:52,105 --> 00:28:55,775
I just kept punching him,
saying, "Don't die.
645
00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:58,106
Don't die.
You got those little girls."
646
00:28:58,111 --> 00:29:01,571
♪♪
647
00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:06,163
What I want you to do,
sweetie...
648
00:29:06,161 --> 00:29:09,831
as you're laying there,
for your sacral chakra,
649
00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:12,461
I know you went
through some abuse,
650
00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:15,379
and I want you to focus
on letting that go
651
00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:18,969
and letting Mother Aya
heal the wounds from that.
652
00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:21,796
That should not be
a part of who you are.
653
00:29:21,802 --> 00:29:23,852
You still have
three children.
654
00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:26,055
You have beautiful
grandbabies.
655
00:29:26,056 --> 00:29:28,766
So, what I want you
to focus on also ‐‐
656
00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,897
being healthy
657
00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:35,605
and letting Mother Aya
heal the wounds.
658
00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:39,187
Don't be afraid to speak
about your guilt,
659
00:29:39,194 --> 00:29:42,364
your fears, your hopes.
660
00:29:42,364 --> 00:29:45,284
Don't be afraid to offer that
motherly advice that you have.
661
00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:48,083
Don't be afraid to issue
that ass‐chewing, neither.
662
00:29:48,078 --> 00:29:51,248
All the guilt
and all the self‐hatred
663
00:29:51,248 --> 00:29:53,708
and all the self‐loathing
in the world
664
00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:58,299
ain't going to change one minute
of that past.
665
00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:00,296
But letting go
of all that shit
666
00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:03,588
could definitely change
every minute of your future.
667
00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:05,803
Mm.
668
00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:07,974
I'm all for that.
669
00:30:07,973 --> 00:30:09,983
Now, Sheila,
we'd like you to sit here
670
00:30:09,975 --> 00:30:12,725
and just be at peace,
meditate...
671
00:30:12,728 --> 00:30:14,228
Okay.
...kind of take in all
672
00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:17,319
the energy
coming to you.
673
00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:19,525
Like that.
674
00:30:19,526 --> 00:30:22,146
♪♪
675
00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:24,744
Sheila: I felt
the ayahuasca hit me,
676
00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:26,990
and all of a sudden...
677
00:30:26,992 --> 00:30:29,242
I left my body.
678
00:30:29,244 --> 00:30:32,624
I saw these different shapes
and patterns.
679
00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:36,672
A lot of little moving
parts and gears,
680
00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:39,878
and then I would hear
a woman's laughter.
681
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,340
[ Laughter ]
682
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:45,550
♪♪
683
00:30:45,552 --> 00:30:49,262
I was...
the universe.
684
00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:52,564
♪♪
685
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,349
And then I felt my face.
686
00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:59,783
I was feeling around, like,
"Whose body is this?"
687
00:30:59,775 --> 00:31:03,105
It wasn't mine,
688
00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:05,911
and I had no pain
689
00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:10,326
for the first time since 2006.
690
00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:13,207
I got the urge to touch my toes,
691
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,325
which I'm incapable of doing
692
00:31:15,332 --> 00:31:17,252
'cause I have steel rods
in my back,
693
00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:22,090
and a little piece of me
was like, "Really?
694
00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:23,629
You think you're going
to touch your toes?"
695
00:31:23,632 --> 00:31:26,342
And I bent completely in half,
696
00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:27,893
and I didn't just touch my toes,
697
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:31,636
I, like, stayed there.
698
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,230
I was just thanking Mother Aya
constantly.
699
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,478
She took away the blockage
700
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,690
that I have to healing myself
in that moment.
701
00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:47,113
[ Whispering ] I can sit,
like, Indian‐style.
702
00:31:47,114 --> 00:31:52,494
♪♪
703
00:31:52,494 --> 00:31:54,704
When I split up
with my kids' dad,
704
00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:56,414
my oldest son was
big enough to decide
705
00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:59,384
where he wanted to stay,
706
00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:01,546
[Voice breaking] and he wanted
to stay with his daddy.
707
00:32:01,545 --> 00:32:03,995
And it broke my heart.
708
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,890
♪♪
709
00:32:14,891 --> 00:32:18,401
Steve: Dena is here
because she has lost ‐‐
710
00:32:18,395 --> 00:32:22,185
How would you say? ‐‐
trust in her own instincts.
711
00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:25,400
Tonight, we're going to talk
about some real painful stuff.
712
00:32:25,402 --> 00:32:28,662
I want the tears of her pain
to be on that sigil.
713
00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,565
Steve: Come on up.
Come on up.
714
00:32:30,574 --> 00:32:33,664
That's what we're gonna use
to energize this sigil
715
00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:37,370
before she lays it in the fire
and watches it disintegrate.
716
00:32:37,372 --> 00:32:40,132
♪♪
717
00:32:40,125 --> 00:32:43,625
I had instructed Nik today
to have you prepare
718
00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:46,668
a negative sigil ‐‐
some of the things you wish
719
00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:49,013
to remove from yourself
if you could.
720
00:32:49,009 --> 00:32:50,929
Could you kind of explain
a little bit
721
00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:52,177
about what you
put together here
722
00:32:52,179 --> 00:32:56,179
before we set it off
to the fire?
723
00:32:56,183 --> 00:32:58,603
This one is anxiety...
Okay.
724
00:32:58,602 --> 00:33:01,152
...and fear
and indecision.
725
00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:03,016
Okay.
726
00:33:03,023 --> 00:33:05,153
It takes me a long time
to make decisions anymore.
727
00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:08,030
I've made so many
bad decisions
728
00:33:08,028 --> 00:33:11,238
that I'm absolutely
terrified, you know?
729
00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:13,069
The consequences
of a bad decision
730
00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:14,994
are so, so much
heavier now.
731
00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,623
Which adds
to your anxiety...
732
00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:17,910
Yeah.
...which feeds this whole
733
00:33:17,913 --> 00:33:19,123
circle of shit?
‐Mm‐hmm.
734
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:21,292
‐Which is based on fear.
‐Mm‐hmm.
735
00:33:21,291 --> 00:33:24,001
If you're scared to act
and you're scared to bust a move
736
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:27,262
because all the decisions seem
so big and so large
737
00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:29,295
and that each one
is life and death
738
00:33:29,299 --> 00:33:31,219
and all the above,
where do you enjoy your life?
739
00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:32,928
Exactly.
740
00:33:32,928 --> 00:33:35,598
Can I ask you where
your bad decisions started?
741
00:33:38,308 --> 00:33:40,098
[ Voice breaking ]
I gave my ex‐husband
742
00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:42,191
custody of my babies.
743
00:33:42,187 --> 00:33:46,017
♪♪
744
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:49,574
He's much more stable
than I am.
745
00:33:49,569 --> 00:33:53,409
The swinging between
the depression and anxiety,
746
00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:55,156
it's not healthy
for children,
747
00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:56,658
and they needed to have
748
00:33:56,660 --> 00:33:59,580
the best opportunity
that they could have,
749
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:01,709
and I wanted to make sure
that they did.
750
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:05,536
So, I decided that
he was the best option.
751
00:34:05,543 --> 00:34:10,053
And [Sniffles] so many people
judge me for it.
752
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:12,338
Teri: They're not
in your shoes.
753
00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:15,722
So, you made a beautiful choice
in a time of instability
754
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,520
not to drag your kids
through that muck.
755
00:34:18,515 --> 00:34:20,635
You sacrificed yourself
for that,
756
00:34:20,642 --> 00:34:23,062
and you let your tears
flow on that sigil
757
00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:24,481
because we're gonna
turn that loose
758
00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:25,979
to the universe, as well.
759
00:34:25,981 --> 00:34:28,021
They made me feel
like such a bad mom.
760
00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:29,824
You're not.
761
00:34:29,818 --> 00:34:32,358
You made the biggest choice
a mother could make,
762
00:34:32,362 --> 00:34:34,072
and the hardest one.
763
00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:35,412
You're working on you
right now,
764
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:38,197
and when you get
yourself right,
765
00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:40,041
then you're going to be
right with them kids
766
00:34:40,036 --> 00:34:43,116
and you're going to be
right with him.
767
00:34:43,123 --> 00:34:45,043
Regardless of how
it made you feel,
768
00:34:45,041 --> 00:34:46,921
regardless of how
it made you hurt,
769
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:49,668
regardless of what everybody
else was saying to you,
770
00:34:49,671 --> 00:34:52,671
never, ever, ever
apologize for that,
771
00:34:52,674 --> 00:34:54,634
feel guilty for that,
772
00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:58,644
feel any kind of shame
for that.
773
00:34:58,638 --> 00:35:00,678
Ever.
774
00:35:00,682 --> 00:35:02,642
I really needed
to hear that.
775
00:35:02,642 --> 00:35:05,022
I don't even celebrate
Mother's Day.
776
00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:07,440
‐You will from now on.
‐Yes, you will.
777
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:08,939
Now I would like you
to take that sigil.
778
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,150
I want you to think
about it ‐‐
779
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:11,230
everything
we've talked about.
780
00:35:11,234 --> 00:35:14,904
[ Sighs ]
781
00:35:14,904 --> 00:35:17,034
Now let that shit go
in that fire.
782
00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:20,122
♪♪
783
00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:21,998
[ Sniffles ]
784
00:35:21,995 --> 00:35:24,155
♪♪
785
00:35:24,164 --> 00:35:26,254
[ Chuckles ]
786
00:35:26,249 --> 00:35:29,249
♪♪
787
00:35:29,252 --> 00:35:32,012
Teri: I think at that moment,
it just really dawned on her
788
00:35:32,005 --> 00:35:34,465
that she had made
the right decision,
789
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:36,376
and for her to realize
790
00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:40,224
that I think was a very
powerful moment of healing.
791
00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:43,181
And I wanted her to know
I do understand that feeling,
792
00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:46,273
and I think instead
of being condemned for it,
793
00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:48,399
she should be congratulated
for it,
794
00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:53,026
because that took strength
that a lot of people don't have.
795
00:35:53,026 --> 00:35:56,486
Teri: When I split up
with my kids' dad,
796
00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:58,108
my oldest son was
big enough to decide
797
00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:01,454
where he wanted to stay,
798
00:36:01,451 --> 00:36:03,871
and he wanted to stay
with his daddy.
799
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:05,910
[ Voice breaking ]
And it broke my heart.
800
00:36:05,914 --> 00:36:08,044
♪♪
801
00:36:08,041 --> 00:36:10,131
But I let him do it
'cause it's what he wanted.
802
00:36:10,126 --> 00:36:11,796
I know what that
feels like.
803
00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:14,455
So, don't you ever,
ever let them people
804
00:36:14,464 --> 00:36:20,054
tell you ever...
that you did something wrong
805
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:23,563
'cause you didn't.
806
00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:26,226
With ayahuasca
running through me,
807
00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:29,726
I was getting
a very relaxed sensation.
808
00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:32,069
When I closed my eyes,
809
00:36:32,065 --> 00:36:36,605
I immediately saw
what looked like space,
810
00:36:36,611 --> 00:36:39,781
like stars and galaxies
and bright colors
811
00:36:39,781 --> 00:36:41,531
whizzing by really quickly.
812
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:45,503
And I saw a woman,
and she was beautiful.
813
00:36:45,495 --> 00:36:47,325
And as soon as she made
eye contact with me,
814
00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:50,210
she disappeared.
815
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,668
And then I saw
ribbons of color
816
00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:54,629
and, like, every color
in the rainbow.
817
00:36:54,629 --> 00:36:56,839
It was beautiful.
818
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,510
I felt a lot of love.
819
00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:03,138
There was a lot of...
"ahh" feeling to it.
820
00:37:03,138 --> 00:37:04,598
[ Chuckles ]
821
00:37:04,597 --> 00:37:06,927
♪♪
822
00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:08,983
It was nice.
823
00:37:08,977 --> 00:37:10,127
♪♪
824
00:37:16,151 --> 00:37:24,201
♪♪
825
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,870
Nathan: Ayahuasca was
definitely worth it for me.
826
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:28,790
I woke up in the morning,
and I felt great.
827
00:37:28,788 --> 00:37:31,458
I didn't really feel the need
to put anything in my system.
828
00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:32,958
I had felt like
I had really released
829
00:37:32,959 --> 00:37:35,839
some very, very
negative energy ‐‐
830
00:37:35,837 --> 00:37:37,087
I guess is the best word
to say it ‐‐
831
00:37:37,088 --> 00:37:39,418
through the purge.
832
00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:41,844
Sheila: I feel great today.
833
00:37:41,843 --> 00:37:45,683
Some people say that ayahuasca
is a drug.
834
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,220
It is not a drug.
835
00:37:47,223 --> 00:37:48,643
It's a medicine.
836
00:37:48,641 --> 00:37:51,391
It's an antidote
that the universe uses
837
00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:53,734
to help you overcome
838
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:56,860
your personal issues.
839
00:37:56,858 --> 00:37:57,858
How are we doing,
Sheila?
840
00:37:57,859 --> 00:37:59,989
Good.
[ Chuckles ]
841
00:37:59,986 --> 00:38:02,736
Really,
really good.
842
00:38:02,739 --> 00:38:05,329
I started walking down
to the van
843
00:38:05,325 --> 00:38:07,655
to get my clothes,
and I thought,
844
00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:09,080
"I wonder if I can run?"
845
00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:10,328
And I ran.
846
00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:12,170
Then I ran up the hill.
847
00:38:12,165 --> 00:38:13,625
How long has it been
since you done those things?
848
00:38:13,625 --> 00:38:17,085
Oh, I can't remember
the last time I ran.
849
00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:19,706
Everything went so good
with last night,
850
00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:22,304
and she seems to be doing
so amazing ‐‐
851
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,840
not feeling any pain,
852
00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:27,763
and I think that in itself
is a true gift.
853
00:38:27,764 --> 00:38:29,314
I mean, it's just
an amazing medicine.
854
00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:30,887
It really is.
855
00:38:30,892 --> 00:38:33,772
Mother Aya has worked a miracle
with you.
856
00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:36,440
I think I got a new
lease on life,
857
00:38:36,439 --> 00:38:38,479
and I'm gonna
go with it,
858
00:38:38,483 --> 00:38:40,993
and I get to hang out with him
some more.
859
00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:43,905
And I'm envious of you,
and I'll tell you why.
860
00:38:43,905 --> 00:38:46,655
I never had a relationship
like this with my mother.
861
00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:49,488
Mm.
862
00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:51,374
Never.
863
00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:52,791
And I regret it.
864
00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:54,959
♪♪
865
00:38:54,958 --> 00:38:58,208
Sheila: I've told Steve
and Teri many times,
866
00:38:58,211 --> 00:39:00,671
"I am eternally grateful for you
867
00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:03,222
and for what you're doing
in the last few years
868
00:39:03,216 --> 00:39:05,966
since Ryan did the ceremony."
869
00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:08,139
When I see him playing
with his kids,
870
00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:11,557
I have this gratitude
for Steve and Teri
871
00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:12,978
that he's here,
872
00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:14,846
because I don't think
he would be here
873
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:17,773
if it wasn't for them
and Mother Aya.
874
00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:20,732
♪♪
875
00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:23,363
Dena: I like it here.
I like this house.
876
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:24,741
Ryan: Oh, yeah.
It's beautiful.
877
00:39:24,737 --> 00:39:26,867
It is.
878
00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:28,865
It is definitely that.
879
00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:30,287
Dena: The biggest lesson
that I've taken away
880
00:39:30,285 --> 00:39:31,905
from this journey is,
881
00:39:31,911 --> 00:39:35,251
I'm not as bad a mother
as I thought I was.
882
00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:38,668
[ Voice breaking ]
That's huge for me.
883
00:39:38,668 --> 00:39:40,378
And I can't wait to see
their little faces
884
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:43,668
and squish them
and give them kisses all over.
885
00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:49,721
I love you guys so much.
886
00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:52,851
Steve: Hello, hello.
887
00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:55,769
I look around at the people that
I see gathered here before me,
888
00:39:55,768 --> 00:39:57,398
and I see completely
different people
889
00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:59,265
that walked
through that door.
890
00:39:59,272 --> 00:40:01,322
Each of you are gonna
have to go through
891
00:40:01,316 --> 00:40:03,146
some trials
and tribulations.
892
00:40:03,151 --> 00:40:04,531
Some of that old
thought patterns
893
00:40:04,527 --> 00:40:05,487
will creep in.
894
00:40:05,486 --> 00:40:07,026
It's called life.
895
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:09,820
Now you have the awareness
to catch it
896
00:40:09,824 --> 00:40:12,244
before it becomes a tidal wave,
897
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:15,503
because it's much easier
while it's a small trickle
898
00:40:15,496 --> 00:40:18,366
than to allow it
to gain momentum.
899
00:40:18,374 --> 00:40:21,004
Ayahuasca for me...
[ Chuckles ]
900
00:40:21,002 --> 00:40:22,462
It's hard to put it
into words, really,
901
00:40:22,462 --> 00:40:24,172
but love.
902
00:40:24,172 --> 00:40:27,342
"Love" would be
the best word for it.
903
00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:30,512
I've died twice,
I've been beat up,
904
00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:32,471
dragged through Hell and back,
905
00:40:32,472 --> 00:40:35,682
and it's helped me immensely.
906
00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:37,643
And if it can do that for me,
907
00:40:37,644 --> 00:40:41,774
then it [Voice breaking] could
do it for a lot of people.
908
00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:45,403
♪♪
909
00:40:45,401 --> 00:40:47,651
Steve: Thank you all so much.
Thank you.
910
00:40:47,654 --> 00:40:50,284
Nik: In the future, I do hope
to become a full‐fledged shaman
911
00:40:50,281 --> 00:40:53,161
because I just simply
feel like this
912
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:55,079
is something that can really
be helpful for people.
913
00:40:55,078 --> 00:40:56,788
Safe travels,
everybody.
914
00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:58,828
It's really nice watching people
just kind of change
915
00:40:58,831 --> 00:41:01,751
from the day they walk in
to the day that they walk out,
916
00:41:01,751 --> 00:41:02,961
kind of like watching
a caterpillar
917
00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,131
turn into a butterfly.
918
00:41:04,128 --> 00:41:06,458
♪♪
919
00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:09,344
Sheila: When I came
to Aya Quest,
920
00:41:09,342 --> 00:41:11,142
I was in a lot of pain
921
00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:14,715
and I struggled to get
up the hill with my walker.
922
00:41:14,722 --> 00:41:17,682
Now I've ran up
and down the hill,
923
00:41:17,684 --> 00:41:20,144
and that's a miracle.
924
00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:24,574
Great doesn't even come close
to how I feel.
925
00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:28,315
"Magnanimous"
or some big word.
926
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:31,449
Nathan: Leaving here,
I really do feel lighter.
927
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:33,157
I'm really grateful
for this experience
928
00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:35,487
because it showed me
a lot of things that, you know,
929
00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:38,123
I otherwise wouldn't have
noticed about myself,
930
00:41:38,121 --> 00:41:40,211
and I'm just excited
to get back home
931
00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:41,996
and really see where
the rubber hits the road ‐‐
932
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,000
really put my nose
to the grindstone.
933
00:41:45,003 --> 00:41:47,093
Steve: Many people get
caught up in the idea
934
00:41:47,088 --> 00:41:50,428
that they went through
the worst of anybody.
935
00:41:50,425 --> 00:41:54,005
And I got news for you ‐‐
most of the people I've met,
936
00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:56,062
they ain't went through
the worst of anything ‐‐
937
00:41:56,055 --> 00:41:58,215
that they went
through their worst.
938
00:41:58,224 --> 00:42:00,694
You know, that's why
I'm so open with my story.
939
00:42:00,685 --> 00:42:02,145
It ain't such that I, you know,
940
00:42:02,145 --> 00:42:04,015
want to be a Billy Badass
bank robber.
941
00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:05,862
I want to let people know
942
00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:08,857
"I'm the biggest [bleep]‐up
at this table, not you.
943
00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:10,400
And if I got here...
944
00:42:10,403 --> 00:42:12,073
you can, too."
945
00:42:12,071 --> 00:42:20,001
♪♪
946
00:42:19,996 --> 00:42:28,086
♪♪
947
00:42:28,087 --> 00:42:30,667
Three months after ayahuasca,
I feel much better.
948
00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:33,093
I've gotten engaged.
949
00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:35,852
I'm feeling really good
three months later.
950
00:42:35,845 --> 00:42:47,265
♪♪
951
00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:49,233
I actually had
an amazing experience.
952
00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:51,363
I had zero pain.
953
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,240
The ceremony gave me
so much hope
954
00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:56,567
that I know it can go away,
955
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,034
that I can be healed.
956
00:42:58,034 --> 00:43:07,174
♪♪
957
00:43:07,168 --> 00:43:16,588
♪♪
958
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:19,564
As far as the medication goes,
I've been able to get myself
959
00:43:19,555 --> 00:43:22,305
on a much lower
and more manageable dose.
960
00:43:22,308 --> 00:43:23,598
Living in the moment
is definitely
961
00:43:23,601 --> 00:43:25,811
a huge thing, you know?
962
00:43:25,812 --> 00:43:27,982
Not worrying too much about
the past is just something
963
00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:30,400
that I really struggled
for the longest time
964
00:43:30,399 --> 00:43:32,819
to, you know, being able to do.
965
00:43:32,819 --> 00:43:33,529
So, you know, again,
so grateful for the experience.
67843
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