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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,544 --> 00:00:05,344 Dena: They made me feel like such a bad mom. Steve: You're not. 2 00:00:05,339 --> 00:00:07,669 You made the biggest choice a mother could make, 3 00:00:07,674 --> 00:00:09,224 and the hardest one. 4 00:00:09,218 --> 00:00:10,758 You did what you knew 5 00:00:10,761 --> 00:00:14,011 was best for your babies at that time, 6 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:17,564 and you should never, ever, ever apologize for that, 7 00:00:17,559 --> 00:00:19,229 feel guilty for that, 8 00:00:19,228 --> 00:00:23,228 feel any kind of shame for that. 9 00:00:23,232 --> 00:00:24,982 Ever. 10 00:00:27,069 --> 00:00:28,899 Steve: I've been a lot of things in my life. 11 00:00:28,904 --> 00:00:31,824 I've been a bank robber and a prisoner, 12 00:00:31,823 --> 00:00:35,953 but being a shaman is my calling. 13 00:00:35,953 --> 00:00:38,543 Ayahuasca is a schedule‐I narcotic, 14 00:00:38,539 --> 00:00:41,329 the same as heroin and LSD, 15 00:00:41,333 --> 00:00:43,843 but it's not a drug, it's medicine, 16 00:00:43,835 --> 00:00:48,005 and in my church, it's a sacrament. 17 00:00:48,006 --> 00:00:50,086 We can do in two days 18 00:00:50,092 --> 00:00:53,262 what conventional therapy may take years to do, 19 00:00:53,262 --> 00:00:56,932 but only if you are willing to step in to the pain. 20 00:00:56,932 --> 00:01:04,442 ♪♪ 21 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,439 Steve: Like I said, keep your intentions on point. 22 00:01:07,442 --> 00:01:09,822 Good job. Good job. 23 00:01:09,820 --> 00:01:12,030 ♪♪ 24 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:14,320 Steve: Nicholas Mutts is my stepson. 25 00:01:14,324 --> 00:01:17,624 He is our last child in a line of 6 26 00:01:17,619 --> 00:01:19,579 between me and Teri. 27 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:21,120 He's not my biological son. 28 00:01:21,123 --> 00:01:24,253 He is my stepson, but I love him like my own. 29 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:26,961 There's nothing I don't trust Nik with, 30 00:01:26,962 --> 00:01:29,342 including my brew. 31 00:01:29,339 --> 00:01:31,629 We always want to make sure our edge here is clean, 32 00:01:31,633 --> 00:01:34,553 especially after doing that much mixing. 33 00:01:34,553 --> 00:01:37,013 Nik has been on a path of being an assistant shaman 34 00:01:37,014 --> 00:01:38,354 for the last five years. 35 00:01:38,348 --> 00:01:40,058 He has worked with me in the lab, 36 00:01:40,058 --> 00:01:42,888 always cleaning up, always doing the shit jobs. 37 00:01:42,894 --> 00:01:45,154 There we go. 38 00:01:45,147 --> 00:01:46,687 But you know what? 39 00:01:46,690 --> 00:01:51,610 He showed me that he really does want this. 40 00:01:51,611 --> 00:01:52,531 Nik: I've always been someone that wanted 41 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:54,779 to help people growing up. 42 00:01:54,781 --> 00:01:56,871 Even whenever I was in elementary and such, 43 00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:58,737 I was always the kid that tried to help anyone 44 00:01:58,744 --> 00:02:01,584 and everyone when they needed a hand. 45 00:02:01,580 --> 00:02:04,170 And Steve encouraged me whenever I was like, 46 00:02:04,166 --> 00:02:06,166 "Hey, I want to do this." 47 00:02:06,168 --> 00:02:08,498 And he was like, "Well, if you really want to do it, 48 00:02:08,503 --> 00:02:11,423 just keep practicing, keep putting your effort into it." 49 00:02:11,423 --> 00:02:13,053 Feel that lid. 50 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:15,340 That's what it should always feel like. Excellent. 51 00:02:15,344 --> 00:02:17,474 Now is the time for Nik to move forward 52 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:20,811 in his own self‐development and his own self‐progression. 53 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:25,307 He's got to be comfortable within the medicine. 54 00:02:25,312 --> 00:02:28,272 Tonight, we're going to be introducing Nik to ayahuasca 55 00:02:28,273 --> 00:02:31,783 for his first really deep journey. 56 00:02:31,777 --> 00:02:36,157 It's important for Nik to drink so that he has an understanding 57 00:02:36,156 --> 00:02:38,986 of what people are going through, 58 00:02:38,992 --> 00:02:41,662 you know, when he's helping them through their journeys. 59 00:02:41,662 --> 00:02:45,712 ♪♪ 60 00:02:45,707 --> 00:02:47,417 Steve: Well, Nik, it very much pleases me 61 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:48,667 to be about to give you 62 00:02:48,669 --> 00:02:51,759 your first full cup of ayahuasca. 63 00:02:51,755 --> 00:02:53,795 You got to make your own presence known 64 00:02:53,799 --> 00:02:57,469 among the different spirits and entities. 65 00:02:57,469 --> 00:03:01,059 That's part of the path to becoming a shaman. 66 00:03:01,056 --> 00:03:02,556 Thank you for the opportunity. 67 00:03:02,557 --> 00:03:04,517 You a little nervous? 68 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:07,398 I would be, too. 69 00:03:07,396 --> 00:03:09,146 Peace and progression. 70 00:03:09,147 --> 00:03:11,187 Peace and progression. 71 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:18,741 ♪♪ 72 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:20,530 Good job. 73 00:03:20,534 --> 00:03:30,344 ♪♪ 74 00:03:30,335 --> 00:03:31,495 Steve: From Teri, I feel, of course, 75 00:03:31,503 --> 00:03:33,093 apprehension, you know? 76 00:03:33,088 --> 00:03:34,968 You can just imagine if that as your child 77 00:03:34,965 --> 00:03:38,675 laying there motionless. 78 00:03:38,677 --> 00:03:41,467 It's easy to let your imagination run wild. 79 00:03:41,471 --> 00:03:42,681 "Is he okay? 80 00:03:42,681 --> 00:03:44,351 Can I reach over and hug him 81 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:46,639 and feel him like he was in the cradle?" 82 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:49,863 And she also knows, logically, she can't. 83 00:03:49,855 --> 00:03:53,015 Right now, Nik is on a path of independence. 84 00:03:53,024 --> 00:03:54,784 [ Insects chirping ] 85 00:03:54,776 --> 00:03:56,566 Nik: After having my first cup, 86 00:03:56,570 --> 00:04:00,410 I could sort of feel like a little bit of a wave going on. 87 00:04:00,407 --> 00:04:04,537 Visually, things kind of started to rock a little bit, 88 00:04:04,536 --> 00:04:07,246 kind of like a blast of imagery just flying by, 89 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,917 just a lot of things going on. 90 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:11,626 Like, I could feel that I'm physically there. 91 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:14,336 I can still feel the cot under me, 92 00:04:14,337 --> 00:04:17,167 but I feel sort of weightless, in a way, 93 00:04:17,174 --> 00:04:19,974 kind of like a spider being on its web. 94 00:04:19,968 --> 00:04:24,218 ♪♪ 95 00:04:24,222 --> 00:04:25,812 At one point, I could have swore 96 00:04:25,807 --> 00:04:28,687 I saw Steve's face kind of just smirking at me 97 00:04:28,685 --> 00:04:31,055 a little bit from the background. 98 00:04:31,062 --> 00:04:34,192 ♪♪ 99 00:04:34,191 --> 00:04:36,651 Steve: Nik has the heart and the spirit 100 00:04:36,651 --> 00:04:40,911 and the soul to do this. 101 00:04:40,906 --> 00:04:42,696 But I also know that he's gonna have 102 00:04:42,699 --> 00:04:46,159 to prove himself worthy and responsible 103 00:04:46,161 --> 00:04:48,961 because, one day, I'm gonna have to leave Nik, 104 00:04:48,955 --> 00:04:52,125 and that's why I'm willing to invest the time it's gonna take 105 00:04:52,125 --> 00:04:54,285 to make Nik a master shaman, 106 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:58,474 and to eventually give him the reigns of the church. 107 00:04:58,465 --> 00:05:07,055 ♪♪ 108 00:05:07,057 --> 00:05:15,817 ♪♪ 109 00:05:15,816 --> 00:05:17,396 Nathan: It's so difficult to explain 110 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,690 when you wake up from an overdose 111 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:21,864 because you know that they've just revived you, 112 00:05:21,863 --> 00:05:24,073 you know that you [bleep] up big time. 113 00:05:24,074 --> 00:05:25,624 I was like, "Damn, Nate. 114 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:28,577 Come on. Like really? Like, again?" 115 00:05:28,578 --> 00:05:31,118 ♪♪ 116 00:05:31,122 --> 00:05:33,332 About four years ago, 117 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:35,093 I tried opiates for the first time. 118 00:05:35,085 --> 00:05:38,455 It was in the form of heroin. 119 00:05:38,463 --> 00:05:40,053 That relationship ended with that drug 120 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:41,468 about two years ago, 121 00:05:41,466 --> 00:05:43,836 and that's when I started taking Subuxone, 122 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:46,724 the medication they give you for withdrawal symptoms. 123 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:48,891 But, you know, with the Subuxone, 124 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:51,560 it's pretty much like putting a Band‐Aid on a bullet wound. 125 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,400 You know, there's still this huge hole underneath there 126 00:05:53,395 --> 00:05:55,355 that needs to be dealt with, 127 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,015 and if anything, you know, I'm not dealing with that one. 128 00:05:57,023 --> 00:05:58,983 I'm, you know, continuing to take something 129 00:05:58,984 --> 00:06:04,414 that's artificially making me content and happy. 130 00:06:04,406 --> 00:06:06,656 I just want to be able to just leave it behind 131 00:06:06,658 --> 00:06:07,948 when I leave from this place 132 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:10,331 and just not go back to it again. 133 00:06:10,328 --> 00:06:14,248 ♪♪ 134 00:06:14,249 --> 00:06:17,629 Ryan: When I first came to Aya Quest about two years ago, 135 00:06:17,627 --> 00:06:19,167 I was on my last straw. 136 00:06:19,170 --> 00:06:22,590 I mean, I hit rock bottom. 137 00:06:22,591 --> 00:06:26,511 I was using crystal meth, and I had overdosed, 138 00:06:26,511 --> 00:06:29,351 and I would constantly beat myself up 139 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:32,227 and just have these thoughts in my brain 140 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:37,355 that would just eat me alive. 141 00:06:37,355 --> 00:06:41,105 I haven't done drugs since I've done ayahuasca. 142 00:06:41,109 --> 00:06:43,949 Mother Aya showed me that I was worth more 143 00:06:43,945 --> 00:06:47,195 than what I thought. 144 00:06:47,198 --> 00:06:49,158 I wanted my mom to come to Aya Quest 145 00:06:49,159 --> 00:06:51,329 because she's got a lot of her own stuff 146 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:53,198 that she needs to work on. 147 00:06:53,204 --> 00:07:00,464 ♪♪ 148 00:07:00,462 --> 00:07:04,012 [ Sighs deeply ] 149 00:07:04,007 --> 00:07:09,387 I was injured at work in 2006, and I'm in a lot of pain. 150 00:07:09,387 --> 00:07:13,097 ♪♪ 151 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:17,229 I have steel rods in my back and my legs don't work, 152 00:07:17,228 --> 00:07:19,188 and I've almost committed suicide 153 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:21,609 'cause of the pain. 154 00:07:21,608 --> 00:07:25,148 I have a lot of intentions for coming here ‐‐ 155 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:28,163 physical healing and mentally. 156 00:07:28,156 --> 00:07:33,076 I've been trying to change myself and my issues 157 00:07:33,078 --> 00:07:35,618 for years and years and years, 158 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:38,542 but I've had not much success on my own. 159 00:07:38,541 --> 00:07:41,171 ♪♪ 160 00:07:41,169 --> 00:07:44,509 I hope this will be the answer. 161 00:07:44,506 --> 00:07:46,626 ♪♪ 162 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:47,803 Hey. Come on in. 163 00:07:47,801 --> 00:07:49,141 ‐Hey. ‐I'm Walter. 164 00:07:49,135 --> 00:07:50,845 Nice to meet you, Walter. 165 00:07:50,845 --> 00:07:53,765 How you doing, dude? 166 00:07:53,765 --> 00:07:55,925 Teri: Thank you all very much for coming. 167 00:07:55,934 --> 00:07:57,774 The first thing we are going to do today is, 168 00:07:57,769 --> 00:08:01,729 we will be taking all car keys and cell phones. 169 00:08:01,731 --> 00:08:05,991 If you would all like to get your things and follow me, 170 00:08:05,985 --> 00:08:07,985 we will go down, and you will see 171 00:08:07,987 --> 00:08:12,447 where you will be spending the next few days. 172 00:08:12,450 --> 00:08:13,790 You all can come on in. 173 00:08:13,785 --> 00:08:15,195 ‐Wow. ‐Find you a bed. 174 00:08:15,203 --> 00:08:18,713 Wow‐ee. 175 00:08:18,707 --> 00:08:22,207 Teri: With this group, we have Sheila and Ryan, 176 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:26,260 we have Nathan, and we have Dena. 177 00:08:26,256 --> 00:08:28,426 I've been dealing with depression and anxiety 178 00:08:28,425 --> 00:08:33,045 for about 16 years now. 179 00:08:33,054 --> 00:08:35,224 I was raped when I was 14. 180 00:08:35,223 --> 00:08:38,643 It was a family member. 181 00:08:38,643 --> 00:08:42,773 So, I can't trust anybody else now. 182 00:08:42,772 --> 00:08:45,362 ♪♪ 183 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:49,858 I'm looking to heal from the mistrust 184 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:52,573 that I feel from all of the things 185 00:08:52,574 --> 00:08:55,334 that have happened in the past. 186 00:08:55,326 --> 00:08:56,746 [ Voice breaking ] Wow. 187 00:08:56,745 --> 00:08:58,455 I didn't expect to get this emotional. 188 00:08:58,455 --> 00:09:00,745 I really didn't. [ Inhales deeply ] 189 00:09:00,749 --> 00:09:05,459 ♪♪ 190 00:09:05,462 --> 00:09:07,922 Everybody, I'm Steve Hupp, 191 00:09:07,922 --> 00:09:10,512 chief shaman of Aya Quest Native Americas Church. 192 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:11,628 How are y'all doing tonight? 193 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:13,094 ‐Good. ‐Good? 194 00:09:13,094 --> 00:09:15,264 Ryan, this is like old times here 195 00:09:15,263 --> 00:09:18,223 seeing you across the chair here from me, you know? 196 00:09:18,224 --> 00:09:20,444 And who is this beautiful woman to your left? 197 00:09:20,435 --> 00:09:22,515 ‐I'm his mother. ‐I couldn't have told a bit. 198 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,690 Let me shake your hand, Sheila. 199 00:09:23,688 --> 00:09:25,398 ‐I love you. ‐I love you, too. 200 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:27,068 And thank you for all your ‐‐ 201 00:09:27,067 --> 00:09:29,357 I love you really for all you've done for my son. 202 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,030 Well, thank you. 203 00:09:31,029 --> 00:09:32,859 Now, just to let y'all know, the reason you had 204 00:09:32,864 --> 00:09:34,414 to give up your car keys was because 205 00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:36,657 of this gentleman right here. 206 00:09:36,659 --> 00:09:39,909 He changed my whole rules when it come to car keys 207 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:42,213 'cause in the middle of his first night journey, 208 00:09:42,207 --> 00:09:44,457 he went out to get a pack of cigarettes from his car 209 00:09:44,459 --> 00:09:46,209 and drove away. Really? 210 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:48,631 Pretty much in his underwear and everything. 211 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:50,260 What? And I mean, was gone. 212 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:51,626 Scared me to death, man. 213 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:53,013 Had me pacing for ‐‐ 'Cause, you know, 214 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,799 I don't want to call the cops on him, 215 00:09:54,803 --> 00:09:57,143 but at some point, I have to because, yeah, 216 00:09:57,138 --> 00:09:59,268 you're out here tripping and driving. 217 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:00,765 [ Laughter ] I can't let this go. 218 00:10:00,767 --> 00:10:02,517 But anyway, he made it home. 219 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:04,519 Everything worked out for the best. Really? 220 00:10:04,521 --> 00:10:06,901 And we journeyed the second day, and guess what? 221 00:10:06,898 --> 00:10:09,318 Everything worked out, everything went fine. 222 00:10:09,317 --> 00:10:11,687 But sometimes, if you're in a deep experience, 223 00:10:11,694 --> 00:10:14,614 you can kinda get overwhelmed, and that's what happened to him. 224 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,454 He had a flash, and he just wanted to run. 225 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:17,699 He ain't the first one. 226 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:19,290 That's why we kind of keep you 227 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:21,825 all locked up and sequestered a little bit. 228 00:10:21,830 --> 00:10:24,000 ♪♪ 229 00:10:23,998 --> 00:10:25,288 Teri: We're gonna give you a cup, 230 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:27,001 we're going to wait about 20 minutes, 231 00:10:27,001 --> 00:10:28,461 and we're going to give you a second cup after that 232 00:10:28,461 --> 00:10:30,341 and nothing for 2 hours. 233 00:10:30,338 --> 00:10:32,418 After that, as long as you are 234 00:10:32,423 --> 00:10:36,513 handling the experience in a good way, 235 00:10:36,511 --> 00:10:38,351 I will pour you more. 236 00:10:38,346 --> 00:10:45,436 ♪♪ 237 00:10:45,436 --> 00:10:47,146 Nathan: You know, my nervousness was at its peak. 238 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,937 I started to feel overwhelming anxiety, 239 00:10:49,941 --> 00:10:52,031 like, "What is this going to be like? 240 00:10:52,026 --> 00:10:53,986 Is it going to take me to a different world? 241 00:10:53,987 --> 00:10:55,447 Am I going to have a horrible time? 242 00:10:55,446 --> 00:10:57,066 Like, am I going to end up freaking out?" 243 00:10:57,073 --> 00:10:59,243 Dena: I'm scared. 244 00:10:59,242 --> 00:11:01,122 I'm not really 100% sure 245 00:11:01,119 --> 00:11:04,159 that ayahuasca is going to help me. 246 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:06,714 Hopefully, it brings me an amazing experience. 247 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:08,588 Sheila: I was very nervous, 248 00:11:08,585 --> 00:11:10,995 very fearful of going on a bad trip 249 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:13,134 and not coming back. 250 00:11:13,131 --> 00:11:14,971 ♪♪ 251 00:11:14,966 --> 00:11:17,466 Steve: Ayahuasca's a hallucinogenic tea 252 00:11:17,468 --> 00:11:20,308 made with plants from the Amazon, 253 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:23,515 and it is the strongest psychedelic known to man. 254 00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:26,016 But this isn't like LSD. 255 00:11:26,019 --> 00:11:28,689 Ayahuasca's a portal to your inner self, 256 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:30,768 your subconscious. 257 00:11:30,773 --> 00:11:33,323 And through that portal, you're going to meet a goddess 258 00:11:33,318 --> 00:11:35,698 we call "Mother Aya". 259 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:37,815 When your journey first takes off, 260 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:39,742 you may feel euphoria until ‐‐ 261 00:11:39,741 --> 00:11:41,281 Boom! ‐‐ 262 00:11:41,284 --> 00:11:42,954 the spike hits, 263 00:11:42,952 --> 00:11:46,922 and the purge begins. 264 00:11:46,915 --> 00:11:49,205 You may laugh, you may cry, 265 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:51,749 and you may do both at the same time. 266 00:11:51,753 --> 00:11:53,763 You may puke or shit. 267 00:11:53,755 --> 00:11:56,585 But each of those purges are a physical manifestation 268 00:11:56,591 --> 00:11:58,841 of an emotional release. 269 00:11:58,843 --> 00:12:01,473 That's when you truly find healing. 270 00:12:01,471 --> 00:12:07,391 ♪♪ 271 00:12:07,393 --> 00:12:09,853 [ Sighs ] As soon as I drank, 272 00:12:09,854 --> 00:12:14,114 I felt this wave of calm just come down my body. 273 00:12:14,108 --> 00:12:16,608 My parents were both, you know, 274 00:12:16,611 --> 00:12:18,111 pretty involved with drugs. 275 00:12:18,112 --> 00:12:20,112 They weren't suitable to be parents, 276 00:12:20,114 --> 00:12:23,624 so I actually lived with my grandparents. 277 00:12:23,618 --> 00:12:26,498 My dad spent most of my childhood in prison. 278 00:12:26,496 --> 00:12:29,666 He actually ended up dying of a drug overdose. 279 00:12:29,666 --> 00:12:31,416 So, I always told myself growing up, like, 280 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:35,167 "I'm never, never gonna do drugs." 281 00:12:35,171 --> 00:12:37,841 My son's mother ‐‐ I met her through a friend. 282 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,010 We were ultimately together for five‐and‐a‐half years. 283 00:12:40,009 --> 00:12:41,219 We have one son. Love him to death. 284 00:12:41,219 --> 00:12:43,259 He's 5 now. 285 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:45,933 I had taken a couple months off from work to watch our son. 286 00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:47,352 I was there with him full‐time. 287 00:12:47,350 --> 00:12:49,350 So, when I came home and she wasn't there 288 00:12:49,352 --> 00:12:53,862 and my son wasn't there, it really made me feel horrible. 289 00:12:53,856 --> 00:12:59,446 You know, it just made me feel like I was just a babysitter. 290 00:12:59,445 --> 00:13:01,195 She just packed all of her stuff, she left, 291 00:13:01,197 --> 00:13:02,617 she didn't say, like, you know, 292 00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:04,115 "I'm leaving" or anything like that. 293 00:13:04,117 --> 00:13:06,077 I just came home, and everything was gone, 294 00:13:06,077 --> 00:13:08,037 including my son. 295 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:09,747 It was really rough, and I didn't know 296 00:13:09,747 --> 00:13:13,997 how to cope with that, and that led to severe drinking, 297 00:13:14,002 --> 00:13:18,262 and then after that, into the opiates. 298 00:13:18,256 --> 00:13:20,796 When I lost my son's mom, I remember crying, 299 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,590 bawling the whole night. 300 00:13:22,593 --> 00:13:24,013 My grandmother, Nancy, 301 00:13:24,012 --> 00:13:26,062 she sat there with me the whole night, 302 00:13:26,055 --> 00:13:29,015 and, you know, just having somebody in that way 303 00:13:29,017 --> 00:13:30,597 it's just, like ‐‐ 304 00:13:30,601 --> 00:13:33,231 it's ‐‐ it's just such a beautiful thing. 305 00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:34,979 Sometimes I think to myself, you know, 306 00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:36,481 for everything that she's done, like, 307 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:38,192 I shouldn't be feeling this sad. 308 00:13:38,192 --> 00:13:40,152 And I tell her all the time, 309 00:13:40,153 --> 00:13:41,653 "Don't feel bad that I feel negative. 310 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:44,534 Like, you've... 311 00:13:44,532 --> 00:13:46,032 you've already done, like, so much." 312 00:13:46,034 --> 00:13:49,624 So, yeah, that's where we're at with that. 313 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:51,460 [ Sighs ] 314 00:13:51,456 --> 00:13:53,036 Tell me about your first O. D. 315 00:13:53,041 --> 00:13:55,211 I was driving, 316 00:13:55,209 --> 00:13:57,249 and I went out while I was driving 317 00:13:57,253 --> 00:13:58,803 and I crashed my car. 318 00:14:03,843 --> 00:14:13,563 ♪♪ 319 00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:23,401 ♪♪ 320 00:14:23,404 --> 00:14:25,324 You can tell Sheila is in a lot of pain 321 00:14:25,323 --> 00:14:27,783 and a lot of discomfort. 322 00:14:27,784 --> 00:14:29,704 Mother Aya can work with physical pain, 323 00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:31,542 she can work with psychological pain, 324 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:34,287 and she can work with spiritual pain. 325 00:14:34,290 --> 00:14:37,750 The entities that she works with and through 326 00:14:37,752 --> 00:14:41,012 have a way of healing that I really can't explain. 327 00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:44,675 All I know is, is I set the arena, 328 00:14:44,675 --> 00:14:47,755 I ask Mother to come and join us, 329 00:14:47,762 --> 00:14:49,352 and I get out of the way. 330 00:14:49,347 --> 00:14:51,597 ♪♪ 331 00:14:51,599 --> 00:14:53,889 Sheila: I laid down and asked Mother Aya 332 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:56,653 to take the pain from me so I could relax more, 333 00:14:56,646 --> 00:14:59,856 and she came right away. 334 00:14:59,857 --> 00:15:03,107 She was letting me know, "I'm here. 335 00:15:03,111 --> 00:15:05,321 It's about time you got your butt here, 336 00:15:05,321 --> 00:15:07,321 and we got to get to work now." 337 00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:10,663 ♪♪ 338 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:13,620 When Ryan was about 11 months old, 339 00:15:13,621 --> 00:15:17,671 his dad's drinking got worse. 340 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:20,087 One day, he smacked him so hard 341 00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:23,006 he knocked him out of the chair. 342 00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:26,675 And one night, he was really, really intoxicated 343 00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:29,006 when he came in about 3:00 in the morning. 344 00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:31,971 He put the pillow over my head and raped me. 345 00:15:31,973 --> 00:15:35,643 ♪♪ 346 00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:37,353 When I opened my eyes, 347 00:15:37,353 --> 00:15:40,693 Ryan was standing at the end of the bed. 348 00:15:40,690 --> 00:15:45,280 Instantly, my heart just busted into a tiny million pieces, 349 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,698 that he had seen that. 350 00:15:47,697 --> 00:15:49,567 ♪♪ 351 00:15:49,574 --> 00:15:51,834 Ryan: Most of the part that I remember from it 352 00:15:51,826 --> 00:15:56,616 was him laying in bed crying and just screaming, 353 00:15:56,622 --> 00:15:59,292 talking about he just wanted to die, 354 00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:01,842 and he just jumped up and kicked me in the chest 355 00:16:01,836 --> 00:16:06,166 and this crazy, crazy shit. 356 00:16:06,174 --> 00:16:10,054 I didn't leave my husband for a long time after that. 357 00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:14,432 I couldn't. I didn't have a job or money. 358 00:16:14,432 --> 00:16:18,102 But he did it again... a few years later. 359 00:16:18,102 --> 00:16:22,022 That was the day I decided I had to leave him. 360 00:16:22,023 --> 00:16:24,153 I didn't want to leave my kids there. 361 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:26,860 They wouldn't come with me. 362 00:16:26,861 --> 00:16:29,701 My heart was broken. 363 00:16:29,697 --> 00:16:31,737 In my house, we had rules and bedtime, 364 00:16:31,741 --> 00:16:33,411 and they had chores. 365 00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:35,329 At their dad's house, there was none of that, 366 00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:38,458 and he bought them cigarettes. 367 00:16:38,456 --> 00:16:41,536 It was just a free‐for‐all. 368 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:46,092 Ryan was 17 when I left. 369 00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:50,178 By this point, he was doing drugs and drinking a lot. 370 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,886 Ryan: I definitely resented my mom. 371 00:16:52,887 --> 00:16:56,387 I had felt like, "Why in the hell is she doing this to me?" 372 00:16:56,390 --> 00:17:00,520 And I‐I just couldn't grasp it. 373 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:04,149 I was just, I guess, just like, "Screw this. 374 00:17:04,148 --> 00:17:05,568 I don't want no part of it." 375 00:17:05,566 --> 00:17:08,026 Sheila: I have three kids, 376 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:10,857 and they're all three drug addicts. 377 00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:14,283 I have tons of guilt from that. 378 00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:17,663 Guilt will [bleep] you up, 379 00:17:17,662 --> 00:17:22,882 and I think the guilt and shame are a big cause of my pain. 380 00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:32,335 ♪♪ 381 00:17:32,343 --> 00:17:33,803 Steve: Nathan is here because he was 382 00:17:33,803 --> 00:17:36,393 an opiate addict on Subuxone. 383 00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:40,429 Subuxone is a drug used to keep the dope‐sick away ‐‐ 384 00:17:40,434 --> 00:17:43,404 to keep the physical withdrawal symptoms at bay, 385 00:17:43,396 --> 00:17:45,686 to help the mind be a little more clear 386 00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:47,400 so they're not so focused on 387 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,530 "Where's my next fix coming from?" 388 00:17:49,527 --> 00:17:51,447 But it is not a cure, 389 00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:54,195 and that's why you got to get to the root of the problem. 390 00:17:54,198 --> 00:17:55,908 Please have a seat there. 391 00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,118 I chose the arena of reflection for Nathan 392 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,579 because I felt Nathan had to deal with some very deep guilt, 393 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:04,251 and we had to get him to look at himself, 394 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:07,340 to let this pocket of shit go out of his head 395 00:18:07,336 --> 00:18:08,796 because that's what was helping him 396 00:18:08,796 --> 00:18:10,586 cling to to this addiction, 397 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,470 and I wanted Nathan to see that 398 00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:14,256 and I wanted him to look at himself 399 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:18,390 from many different angles where he couldn't turn away. 400 00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:20,019 Steve: For right now, I just want you to sit there 401 00:18:20,016 --> 00:18:22,226 and kind of take in all the different reflection, 402 00:18:22,226 --> 00:18:24,306 all the different areas and angles 403 00:18:24,312 --> 00:18:26,442 that's coming in for you. 404 00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:28,819 Now, does addiction run in your family or... 405 00:18:28,816 --> 00:18:31,276 Nathan: Yeah, my father passed away of a drug overdose. 406 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:34,527 Okay, what would your son be able to say to you 407 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:37,530 to keep you working towards sobriety? 408 00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:41,583 'Cause you've been that son. 409 00:18:41,579 --> 00:18:43,539 Yeah, my son does have a huge impact. 410 00:18:43,539 --> 00:18:45,579 You know, even at 5 years old, 411 00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:47,503 very encouraging, very loving person, 412 00:18:47,501 --> 00:18:48,751 and that's why I don't want this 413 00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:50,423 to be in the picture when he's older. 414 00:18:50,421 --> 00:18:55,091 Like, even now, so I don't want it in the picture. 415 00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:57,552 When did your opiate problem start? 416 00:18:57,553 --> 00:19:01,223 So, yeah, that was four years ago, 417 00:19:01,223 --> 00:19:02,733 in October. 418 00:19:02,725 --> 00:19:04,725 Tell me about your first O. D. 419 00:19:04,727 --> 00:19:07,937 I was driving, and I crashed my car. 420 00:19:07,938 --> 00:19:09,268 What about the second time? 421 00:19:09,273 --> 00:19:10,483 The second time, I was in my house, 422 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:12,193 and my grandmother saved my life. 423 00:19:12,193 --> 00:19:15,783 She had gone to bed, and she came out and she, like, 424 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:17,110 obviously saw that I was on the floor 425 00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:18,874 and I wasn't breathing. 426 00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:22,786 So, she gave me CPR and called the ambulance. 427 00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:24,207 Wow. She resuscitated you. 428 00:19:24,205 --> 00:19:25,745 She did. That's correct. 429 00:19:25,748 --> 00:19:27,038 You harbor some guilt 430 00:19:27,041 --> 00:19:28,711 where your grandmother was concerned 431 00:19:28,709 --> 00:19:31,459 that she had to resuscitate you because I guarantee it, 432 00:19:31,462 --> 00:19:33,632 that was brutal on her. Yeah. Yeah. 433 00:19:33,631 --> 00:19:35,341 And I'm sure it was hard to watch her cry... 434 00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:36,971 Yeah. 435 00:19:36,967 --> 00:19:40,887 ...because I'm sure it really jacked her up. 436 00:19:40,888 --> 00:19:43,138 I want you to forgive yourself for that guilt, 437 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:45,640 because I'm sure she has already forgiven you. 438 00:19:45,643 --> 00:19:47,143 She ‐‐ She has. 439 00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:48,854 But I feel from you that you haven't quite 440 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:50,614 forgiven yourself for that 441 00:19:50,606 --> 00:19:52,976 because your demeanor totally changed 442 00:19:52,983 --> 00:19:54,193 when we went into that event. 443 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:55,573 Mm. 444 00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,409 For right now, I want you to sit here 445 00:19:57,405 --> 00:19:59,735 and just meditate in the glow of these lights, 446 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,580 and I want you to just focus on the person 447 00:20:02,576 --> 00:20:04,996 that Nathan is trying to become. 448 00:20:04,995 --> 00:20:06,705 I want you to focus on 449 00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:09,036 if Nathan could paint the perfect Nathan, 450 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:10,671 what would that Nathan look like? 451 00:20:10,668 --> 00:20:12,458 Mm. 452 00:20:12,461 --> 00:20:16,261 Steve: Nathan's body language and demeanor told me 453 00:20:16,257 --> 00:20:19,217 that his self‐esteem is in the basement. 454 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:23,058 He couldn't stand to make eye contact with himself. 455 00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:26,305 Even his whole aura seemed to shrink 456 00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:28,098 at this one mention 457 00:20:28,102 --> 00:20:31,522 of this one day in an addict's life. 458 00:20:31,522 --> 00:20:35,032 This is what must be brought to the surface to be purged. 459 00:20:35,025 --> 00:20:37,695 There's no drug to turn to. Mother ain't going to let you. 460 00:20:37,695 --> 00:20:39,815 Mother's going to hold up this mirror and say, 461 00:20:39,822 --> 00:20:42,032 "Look at yourself 462 00:20:42,032 --> 00:20:46,082 and love yourself even with all your flaws, 463 00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:49,538 and that's when things will start to get better." 464 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:53,040 The first thing I saw, I would consider them to be demons. 465 00:20:53,043 --> 00:20:55,883 Their faces were all kind of nasty and grimacing 466 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,480 and had, like, gnashing teeth. 467 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:10,981 ♪♪ 468 00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:12,308 Nik: If you could, I'd like for you to have 469 00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:14,613 a seat right here, Miss Dena. 470 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,227 Steve: I would not let Nik as my assistant shaman 471 00:21:17,234 --> 00:21:19,784 every become a one‐trick pony. 472 00:21:19,779 --> 00:21:21,489 He has to be well‐rounded, 473 00:21:21,489 --> 00:21:23,699 and the first thing you got to do is be patient 474 00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:25,199 and learn how to communicate. 475 00:21:25,201 --> 00:21:27,161 We judge nothing. 476 00:21:27,161 --> 00:21:30,041 For this ceremony, I want Nik to work with Dena 477 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:31,789 to make to make a negative sigil 478 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:34,921 for her to identify what she needs to let go, 479 00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:36,999 and that's not going to be easy for her. 480 00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:39,174 We have to do it in such a way 481 00:21:39,173 --> 00:21:42,383 not to shut this wounded soul down, 482 00:21:42,384 --> 00:21:45,854 but to help this wounded soul heal. 483 00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:47,346 Steve wanted me to do a little bit 484 00:21:47,348 --> 00:21:49,138 of an exercise with you here. 485 00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,641 You're going to want to make a list of things 486 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:52,443 that you don't like personally about you. 487 00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:54,936 And it can be as personal as you want 488 00:21:54,939 --> 00:21:56,319 or just simple things that you feel 489 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,275 kind of hold you back in life. 490 00:21:58,275 --> 00:22:00,025 Okay. 491 00:22:00,027 --> 00:22:02,607 ♪♪ 492 00:22:02,613 --> 00:22:05,033 Dena: My very first memory in life ‐‐ 493 00:22:05,032 --> 00:22:09,702 I was probably 3 or 4, and I remember waking up 494 00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:12,373 to the babysitter's son molesting me. 495 00:22:12,373 --> 00:22:15,713 I was raped when I was 14, and I kept it to myself, 496 00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:18,629 and I didn't tell anybody for years and years. 497 00:22:18,629 --> 00:22:20,839 I got really good at internalizing things, 498 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,930 hiding them. 499 00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:26,046 I was in an 8‐year‐long relationship 500 00:22:26,053 --> 00:22:30,183 with a man that I loved very, very, very much, 501 00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:33,892 and we were married for four of those years. 502 00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:36,864 He saved me from a lot of heartache. 503 00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:39,726 But I kept swinging back and forth 504 00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:42,323 between the depression and the extreme happiness. 505 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:43,699 It's like I couldn't breathe. 506 00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:45,406 It was a roller coaster 507 00:22:45,406 --> 00:22:48,736 of happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad. 508 00:22:48,742 --> 00:22:52,082 And I didn't know what to do, 509 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,369 I didn't know how to explain it to him. 510 00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:55,923 I could tell that he wasn't there anymore, 511 00:22:55,916 --> 00:22:57,586 like emotionally and physically. 512 00:22:57,585 --> 00:23:00,415 Like, he just wasn't there, and I said as much. 513 00:23:00,421 --> 00:23:02,381 And he was like, "I think we need to get a divorce. 514 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,631 Like, I'm not happy anymore." 515 00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:08,853 And that was it. 516 00:23:08,846 --> 00:23:10,846 It hurt. 517 00:23:10,848 --> 00:23:13,178 [ Voice breaking ] It hurt a lot. 518 00:23:13,183 --> 00:23:14,483 I was very suicidal. 519 00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:18,476 Um... 520 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,440 There was a couple of times, actually, 521 00:23:20,441 --> 00:23:25,861 that I got my van up to very high speeds, 522 00:23:25,863 --> 00:23:27,033 and I was going to wreck it. 523 00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:29,071 [ Chuckles ] 524 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:33,664 ♪♪ 525 00:23:33,662 --> 00:23:35,712 I eventually moved out and moved in with my dad, 526 00:23:35,706 --> 00:23:38,746 and I left my two boys 527 00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:40,751 with their father in North Carolina 528 00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:42,463 because, honestly, I don't feel like 529 00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:46,513 I could have done the best job at raising them. 530 00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:47,838 I want my children to have 531 00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:49,683 the best life that they can have. 532 00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:53,308 [ Sniffles ] 533 00:23:53,307 --> 00:23:57,187 So, I'm here to make sure that that happens. 534 00:23:57,186 --> 00:23:59,226 ♪♪ 535 00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:01,689 ‐How we all doing? ‐Good. 536 00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:03,820 Steve: I'm proud of each and every one of you. 537 00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:07,777 All of you have already laid a very strong foundation 538 00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:12,490 for a very powerful experience tonight. 539 00:24:12,493 --> 00:24:14,833 Tonight, the medicine's a little stronger. 540 00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:17,458 So, remember your tenets ‐‐ 541 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:21,496 just is, accept and allow, and relax. 542 00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:22,882 You all get to a point 543 00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:24,168 where you want more this evening, 544 00:24:24,171 --> 00:24:25,631 just like last night, you know ‐‐ 545 00:24:25,631 --> 00:24:28,971 as long as you're within reason, absolutely. 546 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:31,968 Steve: To see a mother and a son sitting here beside me... 547 00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:33,721 ‐I know. ‐...this is just huge. 548 00:24:33,722 --> 00:24:35,102 How do you feel this morning when you got up? 549 00:24:35,099 --> 00:24:36,889 I had a lot of pain. 550 00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:39,102 It started in the night. 551 00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:41,653 Hopefully, we can adjust that tonight. 552 00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:45,437 Sheila: Mother Aya was very kind and compassionate 553 00:24:45,442 --> 00:24:46,992 and loving with me last night, 554 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:52,156 and I think tonight, shit's going to get deep, 555 00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:54,487 and it's probably not going to be pretty. 556 00:24:54,493 --> 00:25:04,093 ♪♪ 557 00:25:04,086 --> 00:25:05,706 Nathan: I drank off the brew. 558 00:25:05,713 --> 00:25:09,683 I started to really almost, like, throw it up, 559 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,635 and I went outside with Walter, you know, 560 00:25:11,635 --> 00:25:14,005 smoke a cigarette before we got started. 561 00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:16,183 And I think I got about halfway through my cigarette 562 00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:17,681 before the bush in front of me 563 00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:19,693 started to really, you know, start going. 564 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:22,515 It was moving, and I sat there to myself, and I said, 565 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:25,151 "Holy shit, we're gonna be in for a ride tonight." 566 00:25:25,149 --> 00:25:27,899 At that point in time, 567 00:25:27,901 --> 00:25:30,781 I had some pretty intense visuals. 568 00:25:30,779 --> 00:25:32,609 Everything was swirling around on top of me. 569 00:25:32,614 --> 00:25:35,164 I was hearing... 570 00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:38,409 The first thing I saw, I would consider them to be demons. 571 00:25:38,412 --> 00:25:40,082 There was massive amounts of them, 572 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,000 and their faces were all kind of nasty and grimacing 573 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,330 and had, like, gnashing teeth. 574 00:25:44,334 --> 00:25:45,754 And I think that those were 575 00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:48,303 all the negative things inside of me. 576 00:25:48,297 --> 00:25:52,217 I had this one scene where I saw Subuxone. 577 00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:54,927 The thing was huge, like, I saw in my head ‐‐ gigantic. 578 00:25:54,928 --> 00:25:56,758 And I saw something puncture 579 00:25:56,764 --> 00:25:59,354 right through that piece of medication. 580 00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:01,809 That's when I started to, like, see the shackles, 581 00:26:01,810 --> 00:26:04,690 and I started to hear the mantra, "This is slavery. 582 00:26:04,688 --> 00:26:06,688 This is bondage. This is not for you. 583 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,230 [ Echoing ] This is slavery. This is bondage. 584 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:09,783 This is not for you." 585 00:26:09,777 --> 00:26:11,147 And it was at that point that I started 586 00:26:11,153 --> 00:26:13,913 to kind of feel, like, "Wow. Holy cow. 587 00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:15,486 Just let it go. Just let it go." 588 00:26:15,491 --> 00:26:17,741 And at that point, I really let it go. 589 00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:20,293 Just let it go. 590 00:26:20,287 --> 00:26:25,417 I had really just purged out some very negative stuff. 591 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:27,037 I felt amazing. 592 00:26:27,044 --> 00:26:29,714 [ Sniffles ] 593 00:26:29,713 --> 00:26:31,423 [ Exhales sharply ] 594 00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:33,883 Sheila: I went 90 miles an hour 595 00:26:33,884 --> 00:26:37,184 to get him to the hospital last time he O. D.'d. 596 00:26:37,179 --> 00:26:39,889 He kept saying, "I'm dying. I'm dying. 597 00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:40,580 I'm dying." 598 00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:51,275 ♪♪ 599 00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:54,396 Steve: I got you. I got you. Just come on down. 600 00:26:54,404 --> 00:26:57,244 Sheila's here for physical healing, 601 00:26:57,241 --> 00:26:59,541 spiritual healing, and psychological healing. 602 00:26:59,535 --> 00:27:01,945 Steve: Come on in. 603 00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:03,714 ‐And if you would, sit ‐‐ ‐Which end is my head? 604 00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,205 Your head's right here. 605 00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:06,247 We want to try to get your head right here. 606 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,540 Oh, I see it. 607 00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,673 Teri: The plan for Sheila tonight ‐‐ 608 00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:12,920 we have a chakra bed that we're going to use 609 00:27:12,923 --> 00:27:15,933 to get her chakras realigned and opened. 610 00:27:15,926 --> 00:27:17,336 There you go. 611 00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:20,314 Your chakras are energy points 612 00:27:20,305 --> 00:27:25,515 for different aspects of your physical body. 613 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:29,229 I hope that she gets the spiritual healing 614 00:27:29,231 --> 00:27:34,651 to release and let go, and I hope she finds peace. 615 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,993 We put this focus on the ceremony 616 00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:40,239 to Mother Aya as removing our guilt. 617 00:27:40,242 --> 00:27:42,042 Okay, I'm going for it. 618 00:27:42,035 --> 00:27:46,745 Because carrying that guilt is not working for you. 619 00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:48,828 See, it's not just Ryan. 620 00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:50,754 I've got three drug addict kids ‐‐ 621 00:27:50,752 --> 00:27:53,512 all three of my kids. 622 00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:55,335 Not just me, 623 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:58,340 but other people always put it on the mother. 624 00:27:58,343 --> 00:27:59,763 "Well, if you would've whipped them more, 625 00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:01,101 if you would've..." 626 00:28:01,096 --> 00:28:03,136 Were you there? Yes, you were. 627 00:28:03,140 --> 00:28:05,890 Was it all on you? No, it was not. 628 00:28:05,893 --> 00:28:07,603 There was a whole synergy of things. 629 00:28:07,603 --> 00:28:10,063 One, you were in a toxic relationship 630 00:28:10,063 --> 00:28:12,323 with a person of predatory instincts 631 00:28:12,316 --> 00:28:14,316 and predatory desires. 632 00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:16,818 That wasn't your fault either. 633 00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:19,410 You got children who are alive 634 00:28:19,406 --> 00:28:23,076 because you got them there in a [bleep]‐up situation. 635 00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:25,496 I went 90 miles an hour to get him 636 00:28:25,495 --> 00:28:28,865 to the hospital last time he O. D.'d. 637 00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:33,004 I was afraid... very afraid. 638 00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:35,713 But he kept saying, "I'm dying. 639 00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,264 I'm dying. I'm dying." 640 00:28:37,257 --> 00:28:40,047 And... 641 00:28:40,052 --> 00:28:43,642 [Voice breaking] telling me how sorry he was... 642 00:28:43,639 --> 00:28:48,599 Okay. ...for making my life miserable 643 00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:52,112 and putting me through Hell. 644 00:28:52,105 --> 00:28:55,775 I just kept punching him, saying, "Don't die. 645 00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:58,106 Don't die. You got those little girls." 646 00:28:58,111 --> 00:29:01,571 ♪♪ 647 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:06,163 What I want you to do, sweetie... 648 00:29:06,161 --> 00:29:09,831 as you're laying there, for your sacral chakra, 649 00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:12,461 I know you went through some abuse, 650 00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:15,379 and I want you to focus on letting that go 651 00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:18,969 and letting Mother Aya heal the wounds from that. 652 00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:21,796 That should not be a part of who you are. 653 00:29:21,802 --> 00:29:23,852 You still have three children. 654 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:26,055 You have beautiful grandbabies. 655 00:29:26,056 --> 00:29:28,766 So, what I want you to focus on also ‐‐ 656 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,897 being healthy 657 00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:35,605 and letting Mother Aya heal the wounds. 658 00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:39,187 Don't be afraid to speak about your guilt, 659 00:29:39,194 --> 00:29:42,364 your fears, your hopes. 660 00:29:42,364 --> 00:29:45,284 Don't be afraid to offer that motherly advice that you have. 661 00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:48,083 Don't be afraid to issue that ass‐chewing, neither. 662 00:29:48,078 --> 00:29:51,248 All the guilt and all the self‐hatred 663 00:29:51,248 --> 00:29:53,708 and all the self‐loathing in the world 664 00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:58,299 ain't going to change one minute of that past. 665 00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:00,296 But letting go of all that shit 666 00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:03,588 could definitely change every minute of your future. 667 00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:05,803 Mm. 668 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:07,974 I'm all for that. 669 00:30:07,973 --> 00:30:09,983 Now, Sheila, we'd like you to sit here 670 00:30:09,975 --> 00:30:12,725 and just be at peace, meditate... 671 00:30:12,728 --> 00:30:14,228 Okay. ...kind of take in all 672 00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:17,319 the energy coming to you. 673 00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:19,525 Like that. 674 00:30:19,526 --> 00:30:22,146 ♪♪ 675 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:24,744 Sheila: I felt the ayahuasca hit me, 676 00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:26,990 and all of a sudden... 677 00:30:26,992 --> 00:30:29,242 I left my body. 678 00:30:29,244 --> 00:30:32,624 I saw these different shapes and patterns. 679 00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:36,672 A lot of little moving parts and gears, 680 00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:39,878 and then I would hear a woman's laughter. 681 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,340 [ Laughter ] 682 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:45,550 ♪♪ 683 00:30:45,552 --> 00:30:49,262 I was... the universe. 684 00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:52,564 ♪♪ 685 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,349 And then I felt my face. 686 00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:59,783 I was feeling around, like, "Whose body is this?" 687 00:30:59,775 --> 00:31:03,105 It wasn't mine, 688 00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:05,911 and I had no pain 689 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:10,326 for the first time since 2006. 690 00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:13,207 I got the urge to touch my toes, 691 00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,325 which I'm incapable of doing 692 00:31:15,332 --> 00:31:17,252 'cause I have steel rods in my back, 693 00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:22,090 and a little piece of me was like, "Really? 694 00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:23,629 You think you're going to touch your toes?" 695 00:31:23,632 --> 00:31:26,342 And I bent completely in half, 696 00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:27,893 and I didn't just touch my toes, 697 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:31,636 I, like, stayed there. 698 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,230 I was just thanking Mother Aya constantly. 699 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,478 She took away the blockage 700 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,690 that I have to healing myself in that moment. 701 00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:47,113 [ Whispering ] I can sit, like, Indian‐style. 702 00:31:47,114 --> 00:31:52,494 ♪♪ 703 00:31:52,494 --> 00:31:54,704 When I split up with my kids' dad, 704 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:56,414 my oldest son was big enough to decide 705 00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:59,384 where he wanted to stay, 706 00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:01,546 [Voice breaking] and he wanted to stay with his daddy. 707 00:32:01,545 --> 00:32:03,995 And it broke my heart. 708 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,890 ♪♪ 709 00:32:14,891 --> 00:32:18,401 Steve: Dena is here because she has lost ‐‐ 710 00:32:18,395 --> 00:32:22,185 How would you say? ‐‐ trust in her own instincts. 711 00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:25,400 Tonight, we're going to talk about some real painful stuff. 712 00:32:25,402 --> 00:32:28,662 I want the tears of her pain to be on that sigil. 713 00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,565 Steve: Come on up. Come on up. 714 00:32:30,574 --> 00:32:33,664 That's what we're gonna use to energize this sigil 715 00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:37,370 before she lays it in the fire and watches it disintegrate. 716 00:32:37,372 --> 00:32:40,132 ♪♪ 717 00:32:40,125 --> 00:32:43,625 I had instructed Nik today to have you prepare 718 00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:46,668 a negative sigil ‐‐ some of the things you wish 719 00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:49,013 to remove from yourself if you could. 720 00:32:49,009 --> 00:32:50,929 Could you kind of explain a little bit 721 00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:52,177 about what you put together here 722 00:32:52,179 --> 00:32:56,179 before we set it off to the fire? 723 00:32:56,183 --> 00:32:58,603 This one is anxiety... Okay. 724 00:32:58,602 --> 00:33:01,152 ...and fear and indecision. 725 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:03,016 Okay. 726 00:33:03,023 --> 00:33:05,153 It takes me a long time to make decisions anymore. 727 00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:08,030 I've made so many bad decisions 728 00:33:08,028 --> 00:33:11,238 that I'm absolutely terrified, you know? 729 00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:13,069 The consequences of a bad decision 730 00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:14,994 are so, so much heavier now. 731 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,623 Which adds to your anxiety... 732 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:17,910 Yeah. ...which feeds this whole 733 00:33:17,913 --> 00:33:19,123 circle of shit? ‐Mm‐hmm. 734 00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:21,292 ‐Which is based on fear. ‐Mm‐hmm. 735 00:33:21,291 --> 00:33:24,001 If you're scared to act and you're scared to bust a move 736 00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:27,262 because all the decisions seem so big and so large 737 00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:29,295 and that each one is life and death 738 00:33:29,299 --> 00:33:31,219 and all the above, where do you enjoy your life? 739 00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:32,928 Exactly. 740 00:33:32,928 --> 00:33:35,598 Can I ask you where your bad decisions started? 741 00:33:38,308 --> 00:33:40,098 [ Voice breaking ] I gave my ex‐husband 742 00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:42,191 custody of my babies. 743 00:33:42,187 --> 00:33:46,017 ♪♪ 744 00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:49,574 He's much more stable than I am. 745 00:33:49,569 --> 00:33:53,409 The swinging between the depression and anxiety, 746 00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:55,156 it's not healthy for children, 747 00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:56,658 and they needed to have 748 00:33:56,660 --> 00:33:59,580 the best opportunity that they could have, 749 00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:01,709 and I wanted to make sure that they did. 750 00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:05,536 So, I decided that he was the best option. 751 00:34:05,543 --> 00:34:10,053 And [Sniffles] so many people judge me for it. 752 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:12,338 Teri: They're not in your shoes. 753 00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:15,722 So, you made a beautiful choice in a time of instability 754 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,520 not to drag your kids through that muck. 755 00:34:18,515 --> 00:34:20,635 You sacrificed yourself for that, 756 00:34:20,642 --> 00:34:23,062 and you let your tears flow on that sigil 757 00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:24,481 because we're gonna turn that loose 758 00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:25,979 to the universe, as well. 759 00:34:25,981 --> 00:34:28,021 They made me feel like such a bad mom. 760 00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:29,824 You're not. 761 00:34:29,818 --> 00:34:32,358 You made the biggest choice a mother could make, 762 00:34:32,362 --> 00:34:34,072 and the hardest one. 763 00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:35,412 You're working on you right now, 764 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:38,197 and when you get yourself right, 765 00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:40,041 then you're going to be right with them kids 766 00:34:40,036 --> 00:34:43,116 and you're going to be right with him. 767 00:34:43,123 --> 00:34:45,043 Regardless of how it made you feel, 768 00:34:45,041 --> 00:34:46,921 regardless of how it made you hurt, 769 00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:49,668 regardless of what everybody else was saying to you, 770 00:34:49,671 --> 00:34:52,671 never, ever, ever apologize for that, 771 00:34:52,674 --> 00:34:54,634 feel guilty for that, 772 00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:58,644 feel any kind of shame for that. 773 00:34:58,638 --> 00:35:00,678 Ever. 774 00:35:00,682 --> 00:35:02,642 I really needed to hear that. 775 00:35:02,642 --> 00:35:05,022 I don't even celebrate Mother's Day. 776 00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:07,440 ‐You will from now on. ‐Yes, you will. 777 00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:08,939 Now I would like you to take that sigil. 778 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,150 I want you to think about it ‐‐ 779 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:11,230 everything we've talked about. 780 00:35:11,234 --> 00:35:14,904 [ Sighs ] 781 00:35:14,904 --> 00:35:17,034 Now let that shit go in that fire. 782 00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:20,122 ♪♪ 783 00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:21,998 [ Sniffles ] 784 00:35:21,995 --> 00:35:24,155 ♪♪ 785 00:35:24,164 --> 00:35:26,254 [ Chuckles ] 786 00:35:26,249 --> 00:35:29,249 ♪♪ 787 00:35:29,252 --> 00:35:32,012 Teri: I think at that moment, it just really dawned on her 788 00:35:32,005 --> 00:35:34,465 that she had made the right decision, 789 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:36,376 and for her to realize 790 00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:40,224 that I think was a very powerful moment of healing. 791 00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:43,181 And I wanted her to know I do understand that feeling, 792 00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:46,273 and I think instead of being condemned for it, 793 00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:48,399 she should be congratulated for it, 794 00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:53,026 because that took strength that a lot of people don't have. 795 00:35:53,026 --> 00:35:56,486 Teri: When I split up with my kids' dad, 796 00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:58,108 my oldest son was big enough to decide 797 00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:01,454 where he wanted to stay, 798 00:36:01,451 --> 00:36:03,871 and he wanted to stay with his daddy. 799 00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:05,910 [ Voice breaking ] And it broke my heart. 800 00:36:05,914 --> 00:36:08,044 ♪♪ 801 00:36:08,041 --> 00:36:10,131 But I let him do it 'cause it's what he wanted. 802 00:36:10,126 --> 00:36:11,796 I know what that feels like. 803 00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:14,455 So, don't you ever, ever let them people 804 00:36:14,464 --> 00:36:20,054 tell you ever... that you did something wrong 805 00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:23,563 'cause you didn't. 806 00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:26,226 With ayahuasca running through me, 807 00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:29,726 I was getting a very relaxed sensation. 808 00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:32,069 When I closed my eyes, 809 00:36:32,065 --> 00:36:36,605 I immediately saw what looked like space, 810 00:36:36,611 --> 00:36:39,781 like stars and galaxies and bright colors 811 00:36:39,781 --> 00:36:41,531 whizzing by really quickly. 812 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:45,503 And I saw a woman, and she was beautiful. 813 00:36:45,495 --> 00:36:47,325 And as soon as she made eye contact with me, 814 00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:50,210 she disappeared. 815 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,668 And then I saw ribbons of color 816 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:54,629 and, like, every color in the rainbow. 817 00:36:54,629 --> 00:36:56,839 It was beautiful. 818 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,510 I felt a lot of love. 819 00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:03,138 There was a lot of... "ahh" feeling to it. 820 00:37:03,138 --> 00:37:04,598 [ Chuckles ] 821 00:37:04,597 --> 00:37:06,927 ♪♪ 822 00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:08,983 It was nice. 823 00:37:08,977 --> 00:37:10,127 ♪♪ 824 00:37:16,151 --> 00:37:24,201 ♪♪ 825 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,870 Nathan: Ayahuasca was definitely worth it for me. 826 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:28,790 I woke up in the morning, and I felt great. 827 00:37:28,788 --> 00:37:31,458 I didn't really feel the need to put anything in my system. 828 00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:32,958 I had felt like I had really released 829 00:37:32,959 --> 00:37:35,839 some very, very negative energy ‐‐ 830 00:37:35,837 --> 00:37:37,087 I guess is the best word to say it ‐‐ 831 00:37:37,088 --> 00:37:39,418 through the purge. 832 00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:41,844 Sheila: I feel great today. 833 00:37:41,843 --> 00:37:45,683 Some people say that ayahuasca is a drug. 834 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,220 It is not a drug. 835 00:37:47,223 --> 00:37:48,643 It's a medicine. 836 00:37:48,641 --> 00:37:51,391 It's an antidote that the universe uses 837 00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:53,734 to help you overcome 838 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:56,860 your personal issues. 839 00:37:56,858 --> 00:37:57,858 How are we doing, Sheila? 840 00:37:57,859 --> 00:37:59,989 Good. [ Chuckles ] 841 00:37:59,986 --> 00:38:02,736 Really, really good. 842 00:38:02,739 --> 00:38:05,329 I started walking down to the van 843 00:38:05,325 --> 00:38:07,655 to get my clothes, and I thought, 844 00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:09,080 "I wonder if I can run?" 845 00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:10,328 And I ran. 846 00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:12,170 Then I ran up the hill. 847 00:38:12,165 --> 00:38:13,625 How long has it been since you done those things? 848 00:38:13,625 --> 00:38:17,085 Oh, I can't remember the last time I ran. 849 00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:19,706 Everything went so good with last night, 850 00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:22,304 and she seems to be doing so amazing ‐‐ 851 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,840 not feeling any pain, 852 00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:27,763 and I think that in itself is a true gift. 853 00:38:27,764 --> 00:38:29,314 I mean, it's just an amazing medicine. 854 00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:30,887 It really is. 855 00:38:30,892 --> 00:38:33,772 Mother Aya has worked a miracle with you. 856 00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:36,440 I think I got a new lease on life, 857 00:38:36,439 --> 00:38:38,479 and I'm gonna go with it, 858 00:38:38,483 --> 00:38:40,993 and I get to hang out with him some more. 859 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:43,905 And I'm envious of you, and I'll tell you why. 860 00:38:43,905 --> 00:38:46,655 I never had a relationship like this with my mother. 861 00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:49,488 Mm. 862 00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:51,374 Never. 863 00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:52,791 And I regret it. 864 00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:54,959 ♪♪ 865 00:38:54,958 --> 00:38:58,208 Sheila: I've told Steve and Teri many times, 866 00:38:58,211 --> 00:39:00,671 "I am eternally grateful for you 867 00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:03,222 and for what you're doing in the last few years 868 00:39:03,216 --> 00:39:05,966 since Ryan did the ceremony." 869 00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:08,139 When I see him playing with his kids, 870 00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:11,557 I have this gratitude for Steve and Teri 871 00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:12,978 that he's here, 872 00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:14,846 because I don't think he would be here 873 00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:17,773 if it wasn't for them and Mother Aya. 874 00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:20,732 ♪♪ 875 00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:23,363 Dena: I like it here. I like this house. 876 00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:24,741 Ryan: Oh, yeah. It's beautiful. 877 00:39:24,737 --> 00:39:26,867 It is. 878 00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:28,865 It is definitely that. 879 00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:30,287 Dena: The biggest lesson that I've taken away 880 00:39:30,285 --> 00:39:31,905 from this journey is, 881 00:39:31,911 --> 00:39:35,251 I'm not as bad a mother as I thought I was. 882 00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:38,668 [ Voice breaking ] That's huge for me. 883 00:39:38,668 --> 00:39:40,378 And I can't wait to see their little faces 884 00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:43,668 and squish them and give them kisses all over. 885 00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:49,721 I love you guys so much. 886 00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:52,851 Steve: Hello, hello. 887 00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:55,769 I look around at the people that I see gathered here before me, 888 00:39:55,768 --> 00:39:57,398 and I see completely different people 889 00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:59,265 that walked through that door. 890 00:39:59,272 --> 00:40:01,322 Each of you are gonna have to go through 891 00:40:01,316 --> 00:40:03,146 some trials and tribulations. 892 00:40:03,151 --> 00:40:04,531 Some of that old thought patterns 893 00:40:04,527 --> 00:40:05,487 will creep in. 894 00:40:05,486 --> 00:40:07,026 It's called life. 895 00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:09,820 Now you have the awareness to catch it 896 00:40:09,824 --> 00:40:12,244 before it becomes a tidal wave, 897 00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:15,503 because it's much easier while it's a small trickle 898 00:40:15,496 --> 00:40:18,366 than to allow it to gain momentum. 899 00:40:18,374 --> 00:40:21,004 Ayahuasca for me... [ Chuckles ] 900 00:40:21,002 --> 00:40:22,462 It's hard to put it into words, really, 901 00:40:22,462 --> 00:40:24,172 but love. 902 00:40:24,172 --> 00:40:27,342 "Love" would be the best word for it. 903 00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:30,512 I've died twice, I've been beat up, 904 00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:32,471 dragged through Hell and back, 905 00:40:32,472 --> 00:40:35,682 and it's helped me immensely. 906 00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:37,643 And if it can do that for me, 907 00:40:37,644 --> 00:40:41,774 then it [Voice breaking] could do it for a lot of people. 908 00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:45,403 ♪♪ 909 00:40:45,401 --> 00:40:47,651 Steve: Thank you all so much. Thank you. 910 00:40:47,654 --> 00:40:50,284 Nik: In the future, I do hope to become a full‐fledged shaman 911 00:40:50,281 --> 00:40:53,161 because I just simply feel like this 912 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:55,079 is something that can really be helpful for people. 913 00:40:55,078 --> 00:40:56,788 Safe travels, everybody. 914 00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:58,828 It's really nice watching people just kind of change 915 00:40:58,831 --> 00:41:01,751 from the day they walk in to the day that they walk out, 916 00:41:01,751 --> 00:41:02,961 kind of like watching a caterpillar 917 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,131 turn into a butterfly. 918 00:41:04,128 --> 00:41:06,458 ♪♪ 919 00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:09,344 Sheila: When I came to Aya Quest, 920 00:41:09,342 --> 00:41:11,142 I was in a lot of pain 921 00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:14,715 and I struggled to get up the hill with my walker. 922 00:41:14,722 --> 00:41:17,682 Now I've ran up and down the hill, 923 00:41:17,684 --> 00:41:20,144 and that's a miracle. 924 00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:24,574 Great doesn't even come close to how I feel. 925 00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:28,315 "Magnanimous" or some big word. 926 00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:31,449 Nathan: Leaving here, I really do feel lighter. 927 00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:33,157 I'm really grateful for this experience 928 00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:35,487 because it showed me a lot of things that, you know, 929 00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:38,123 I otherwise wouldn't have noticed about myself, 930 00:41:38,121 --> 00:41:40,211 and I'm just excited to get back home 931 00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:41,996 and really see where the rubber hits the road ‐‐ 932 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,000 really put my nose to the grindstone. 933 00:41:45,003 --> 00:41:47,093 Steve: Many people get caught up in the idea 934 00:41:47,088 --> 00:41:50,428 that they went through the worst of anybody. 935 00:41:50,425 --> 00:41:54,005 And I got news for you ‐‐ most of the people I've met, 936 00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:56,062 they ain't went through the worst of anything ‐‐ 937 00:41:56,055 --> 00:41:58,215 that they went through their worst. 938 00:41:58,224 --> 00:42:00,694 You know, that's why I'm so open with my story. 939 00:42:00,685 --> 00:42:02,145 It ain't such that I, you know, 940 00:42:02,145 --> 00:42:04,015 want to be a Billy Badass bank robber. 941 00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:05,862 I want to let people know 942 00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:08,857 "I'm the biggest [bleep]‐up at this table, not you. 943 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:10,400 And if I got here... 944 00:42:10,403 --> 00:42:12,073 you can, too." 945 00:42:12,071 --> 00:42:20,001 ♪♪ 946 00:42:19,996 --> 00:42:28,086 ♪♪ 947 00:42:28,087 --> 00:42:30,667 Three months after ayahuasca, I feel much better. 948 00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:33,093 I've gotten engaged. 949 00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:35,852 I'm feeling really good three months later. 950 00:42:35,845 --> 00:42:47,265 ♪♪ 951 00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:49,233 I actually had an amazing experience. 952 00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:51,363 I had zero pain. 953 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,240 The ceremony gave me so much hope 954 00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:56,567 that I know it can go away, 955 00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,034 that I can be healed. 956 00:42:58,034 --> 00:43:07,174 ♪♪ 957 00:43:07,168 --> 00:43:16,588 ♪♪ 958 00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:19,564 As far as the medication goes, I've been able to get myself 959 00:43:19,555 --> 00:43:22,305 on a much lower and more manageable dose. 960 00:43:22,308 --> 00:43:23,598 Living in the moment is definitely 961 00:43:23,601 --> 00:43:25,811 a huge thing, you know? 962 00:43:25,812 --> 00:43:27,982 Not worrying too much about the past is just something 963 00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:30,400 that I really struggled for the longest time 964 00:43:30,399 --> 00:43:32,819 to, you know, being able to do. 965 00:43:32,819 --> 00:43:33,529 So, you know, again, so grateful for the experience. 67843

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