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hello again this is a special recording

what we call an archives recording and

the proceedings part of this film was

showing some of downtown Denver and the

deed of there was 18th of April today as

a 20th of April year 2000 Denver is

still there in the stool traffic and

it's still smog but since it's an

archives report with what we did put in

a little piece about Denver and showing

what Denver's like on construction of a

new stadium etc in the archived report

which this is I wish to add a few things

which I would not put in the general

history of myself and the Philadelphia

Experiment this material will not be

available to everyone in fact very few

people and going back into the problems

of the Philadelphia Experiment when

Duncan and I jumped overboard off the

ship the Eldridge in hyperspace we of

course didn't know what was happening

and where we were going or if we were

going anywheres except of course into

the water we expected to hit the water

in the bay and swim ashore but no water

we never hit it we kept falling and

falling for quite a period of time then

it seemed to level out boom excuse me

seemed to level out and we were shall I

say flying along that's not the right

term but it seemed like we were through

cloud banks another strange phenomena

and this went on for a period of time

and then we blanked out when we woke up

as we found out in a hospital talking to

one bad night and another in the same

room I'm wondering what has happened

where were we and what was going on well

in a hospital lieutenant Norley came in

and do the usual measurements of the

usual vital signs and so forth I said

would you like to watch TV said yes

return on the TV at this point we didn't

know that anything was wrong or in

he was any different than the area era

we had come from except of course in

1943 we didn't have large screen color

TV this happened to be a wall-mounted

unit smaller size but color which was

the first discrepancy we watched the TV

we were actually in that hospital for

four weeks recovering we finally asked

what we were doing here they wouldn't

tell us how we got there but they said

you have suffered severe radiation burns

it's a radiation from what and they sort

of demurred on giving us a straight

answer as they said no it's not nuclear

radiation as it turns out I would learn

much later of course there was radiation

that you will possibly run into in deep

space and a certain other conditions

which his course is not nuclear but

nevertheless it's an ionizing form of

radiation that can be damaging to the

body so we took about four weeks to

recover and in that process on that time

we watched a lot of television at that

point I would say after a week of

watching TV I started asking a lot of

questions because it was quite obvious

that things were not normal normal in

the sense of how we knew them in 1943

that the indications were there were

very few cities around the country

anymore

there was a real travel there was some

car travel but what was most important

is that we no longer any national

boundaries there were boundaries for

reference like what states do we have in

the u.s. well boundaries referenced

we're in accordance with the American

map as we saw it but we are told very

bluntly that no longer is there a

government whatever is left of it is

under military control

whoo there were a number of references

on television to the changed coastlines

it struck us that they were changed I

didn't say that we started asking

questions well can you give us some maps

of the United States

maybe United States and Canada oh sure

no problem they got em for us we were

rather dismayed to find that a good

chunk of California was discipline had

disappeared was no longer above water

was obviously under water the Pacific

Ocean was now encroaching on dry land

largely paralleling the San Andreas

Fault Line in San Francisco a lot of San

Francisco was still there was not all

intact the principal part that survived

was on the rocky promontory which is in

the downtown area south of that there

was a lot of damage but apparently there

damaged from the earthquakes and

whatever else had hit started had a

point someplace between San Francisco

and San Jose as the CNN trees fall comes

in at that point San Jose as I remember

was missing and as you went further

south there was sort of a ragged laws of

land when it got down to Los Angeles the

shall we say the cliff area of sano-sama

not San Mateo the cliff area of the

whole section on the beach from Malibu

on south was missing no cliffs no

apartment houses no houses the beaches

were further inland at least from what

we thought they were originally downtown

Los Angeles was essentially intact it

was built on a rocky area in these

residential sections other than the high

hills of Altadena

and some of the higher sections of

Beverly Hills were gone they were just

totally destroyed and there was not that

much left of Atlanta Angeles as a

functioning City long beach I don't

recall whether it was still there or not

but I do recall

San Diego was totally gone because the

loss of land began just slightly south

of Los Angeles and went on inland and a

rather ragged line so that the I began

approached the San Andreas Fault which

of course runs through the Salton Sea in

the southern part of California on down

in New Mexico at that point roughly from

Laguna Beach or someplace a little north

of it on down to the Salton Sea was all

gone it was under water the land has

gone then there were severe changes and

shall we say in that area nothing is

severe as the Gordon Michael scallion

map no his nearest severe because he

showed most of California go on most of

arizona-grown ports north greater parts

of Nevada gone none of that but up north

there was severe damages in the Bay Area

of Seattle and Portland I don't recall

specifically where that was still there

or not

Chicago was gone the Great Lakes were

now one Lake speaking of course of the

year which we finally found out what

year we were in was 21 37 ad and the

Mississippi had undergone drastic

changes it had become a very wide

waterway an inland estuary at the

narrowest point about 30 miles wide and

she went on South to New Orleans the

whole sand strip and the whole sand spit

we're in New Orleans once was was brown

as was the city of New Orleans and then

we found out that there was a swath of

land about 50 miles wide across the

entire Gulf area the entire Gulf Coast

which was underwater

well this meant all of the coastal

cities were gone not included Houston

and included El Paso Texas Corpus

Christi Texas they were all underwater

I'm gone most of the Texas north of that

50 mile swath was still there Dallas as

I recall was still intact but the

Mississippi problem was enormous because

when it got down to the Gulf

thirty miles white anymore is over 100

and there was an attempt made if I'm

apparently successful to build a bridge

across the Narrows point of the new

Mississippi which was 30 miles wide and

they did build what became the world's

largest and longest suspension bridge

across that point on the Mississippi

that was still crossable I asked other

questions like what about the East Coast

well the East Coast had some very

strange changes there was a large chunk

of land missing from Georgia Georgia was

particularly hit in that cities of

Savannah were gone the coastal cities

were gone Atlanta was still there but 3

miles approximately from the oceanfront

and the cut out of land was rather

jagged pointing towards Atlanta but then

went back towards the coast and as you

go on up the coast towards New York the

losses were very strange and there was

sporadic and they were not on a

continuous thing it was a jagged outline

Baltimore and Washington were gone New

York City was still there what was left

of it which was mostly the section above

the battery on Manhattan Island because

it's solid rock it remained and the

areas like Brooklyn Queens were

essentially gone replaced by water most

of Long Island was intact New England

there's some missing inland areas and as

I said Chicago was gone

upstate New York had a very strange

problem the st. Lawrence River became an

inland sea wave and developed a lake

which covered Albany New York

a large saltwater lake so a lot of

streets changes in the United States

Canada I did not pay any particular

attention to it didn't appear to have

changed that much Europe had drastic

changes in Europe England was gone most

but not all of Ireland was gone the

highlands of Scotland was still so alive

and well apparently and in terms of the

internal country

and parts of Europe as we know it now

quite a bit of it was underwater even

parts of Switzerland were underwater the

mountains had dropped that for what will

have gone on in Europe we don't really

know and the guys asked the questions of

couldn't really answer them correctly

anyway because they were not that

familiar with it demand I principally

talk with was the hospital technician

quite intelligent and during us stay

there

he was the only black man we saw he was

a black medical technician very

competent and educated was the only

black person we saw on our entire stage

in year 21 37 there was still rail

travel and travel I didn't ask about

airlines travel not AB - what's the

world population these days and they

said Oh slightly over 300 million and I

looked at mrs. world population he said

yes world population so the u.s. is now

now down around 50 million or less there

is no government left acting in the face

of the earth intact they had all

crumbled sometime between the period of

2000 and as he told me 2025 martial law

was set in almost all these areas there

was a combination of end historically

speaking having a nuclear war World War

3 those considered a rather brief World

War 3 but a lot of destruction and then

those natural earth changes which were

more destructive than the war between

all of those there was a great loss of

life a loss of government a loss of

transportation and of course without you

have starvation and other problems and

it went continually downhill from about

2003 as my guess on he didn't specify a

date who said the records were hazy but

it looked like 2004 approximately when

things came apart and at that point he

said thing what was left to the

government on the military control was

attempting to rebuild the nation and

this was in 21 37 he said it was well

along to being rebuilt but it was far

from being

completely rebuilt and the destruction

being replaced and over so that was

rather a strange interlude and rather a

shock why we went up there I have no

idea the certainly was not our idea and

who shall we say engineered this little

trip into the year 21 37 is still

unknown to me I have some ideas as new

it might be but it gets into a little

later part of the dissertation and

discussion of what happened I asked

about nine levels of Science and

Technology oh yes he said nothing was

lost during this whole period of the

earth destruction of the earth upheavals

in the war is the reason we have

computers we have TV we have all kinds

of communications I didn't ask him about

space travel or what was going on in

terms of what was once NASA didn't think

to ask him about that because I was

shall we say preoccupied with the

otherwise very changes and the total

shifting the size of civilization and

its structure

I asked about money and banks he says oh

yes there's no money they said the banks

are a lot smaller than they were and

they're not as active and watching TV

you know I think about it I didn't see a

single ad about anything so there was

some major changes now we stayed there

approximately six weeks I'm saying we

don't go to myself

we'd get up out of bed eventually and

move around but before the next phase

began I'll have to say that I thought we

were stuck there perhaps forever without

the slightest idea of how we got there

in the first place and they couldn't

explain it either we suddenly appeared

someplace where they picked us up on

conscious returned in to an ambulance

crew and they took us to a hospital and

we were in uniform so they knew we were

military personnel but the military had

changed drastically in the meantime and

the military of that era had no

particularly interest in us one day

wandering around that hospital and

hospital grounds

I disappeared from that era and from

2137 and I wound up and I still further

future date by what means who arranged

it who provided the transportation I

don't know who is obviously a form of

time travel the interesting thing about

it was that Duncan was not with me he

remained behind at 21:37 as I found out

later I wound up in the 20th century and

this was a time period at 27:49 to 2751

ad talk about changes in civilization

society and everything else

it was drastically changed water so on

21:37 as this is now six hundred years

later the cities were enormous the

cities were beautiful they had ground

base that as much as we have always had

them but they also had something else

floating cities floating cities due to

anti-gravity techniques being perfected

sufficiently that they could floated an

entire city which is perhaps not as

large as any of our current cities I was

round to a very nearly round but it

floated on this platform and they could

move the city any place they wanted

remaining floating in the air four or

five thousand feet above the ground

perhaps or a little less depending on

what they wanted but the size of the

city was vertical rather than horizontal

2200 storeys high

that's about two and a half miles and I

learned about this and look this night

said to myself because I befriended some

people on the 28th century how do they

support this and strengthen materials of

anything we know and I'm sure in this

era is inadequate to withstand the load

of all of those stories above the ground

of the lowest level I say quite true I

said well how do you do it I says well

very simply it's about every 300 floors

we put another anti-gravity platform

which relief relieves the weight of all

of those sections above on the section

below and they do

for every 300 stories or so and you

break it up into 300 story sections

which is not impossible by even today

strength of materials but by as future

to strengthen materials and advances no

problem whatever so we've divided it up

and the weight load was only on one

level and then below it was independent

in terms of load though they were all

well attached and by that means they

suspended the load into a distributed

form which made it very feasible the

cities could move anywhere on the planet

basically the stayed hovering and

floating no decision like a particular

location there were some results there

wasn't that much traffic in moving

cities I can assure you because the

world population and that era in the

20th century is only 500 million and I

was instructed later that that was where

they had held it for centuries there

would be no more than approximately 500

million population some of the features

of this let's let's start from the

political standpoint as I learned all of

these cities were the ground based

cities which the majority were was added

you're manufacturing they have

agriculture and various of the things to

supply the needs of civilization but all

of them were the floating our

ground-based were rather interesting in

the governmental form they had

essentially no government there's no

government as we know it today

there was no money there's no banks

there's no political jurisdictions and

there was MF resulted I resolved down to

what would be best called a city state

structure where the city is the state

and any other cities of from that one

are independent and operated in their

own independent manner so that was the

major exchange there there was no

elected government there's no appointed

government there was no government as we

had never seen it in the past as I found

out each city was run by an intelligent

computer synthetic intelligence

synthetic consciousness a highly

radioactive crystalline structure who

built them I had no idea nobody seemed

to know but they've been there for

hundreds of years and this computer ran

the entire city there were guidelines

set down there were laws law books but

no courts no guidelines set down as to

how you're to behave what your

parameters were within these parameters

anything went anything was not

considered kosher within this realm this

parameter limit would be expressed as a

yellow zone I use on that you don't want

to go into and you don't want to become

involved in that type of behavior if you

got out in that area were given an

invite for a reprimand to the computer

which Lewis won in every city running

each city toward that he would literally

be called in France shows a an interview

or an audience with the computer and it

would you would be advised that you had

broken the law but it wasn't considered

a felony it was a misdemeanor a

misdemeanor such if you were judged

guilty

you were sent off to one of the work

camps for whatever purpose they did in

the war camps I would be much like today

I presume where any kind of labor menial

or otherwise had to be done was done and

that was compulsory that was not

voluntary if you were called in because

you read one outside the yellow zone

into what is called the red zone which

is basically what you would today call a

felony offense you immediately called in

for an interview

you're examined looked at talked to and

if the computer at that point thought

that you were rehab it able that you

could learn again to be sociable on

within the social bounds of normalcy you

were given one more chance if the

computer decided that you were not

capable of fitting into society

you were terminated right then are there

other other people who didn't feel like

they could fit into the society but had

not yet committed any of the so-called

offenses literally they were allowed to

leave or the the word was if you don't

like it here go go there somewheres else

go out in the boonies if you want live

as a hermit we don't care and many did I

do not know what percentage errs told

the quite a lot of people had left the

cities and growing out my in the

boondocks

what are they form communities or not I

never did find out the technology was so

advanced on that that you had for

transportation within the city put the

cold Axela Tron's consider it very much

like a moving walkway as we have today

except that when you got on it you could

literally jump ahead and move any form

of suspended gravity at a very high rate

of speed

along this Beltway and when you got to a

point where you wanted to get off you

just literally jumped off and the kids

love to play with these this sort of toy

they consider it at a toy and it's just

so much turn through I was getting in a

wave it do that was great fun these

excelled Tron's went across and even in

the sky cities across open spaces and

the interior of the ste structure there

was a fairly large open space eventually

I got my turn to talk with the computer

it was a part of what was called the

Lama systems now why that name was

chosen I don't know but it was a fact

that every one of those computer

installations though independent was

tied together in the network not known

by most of the city dwellers which

included every city on the planet so

that there was a cohesion between the

computers cooperation had generally they

kept track of each other I spent almost

two years in this very large complex I

traveled around a lot one of the other

things was yes the war rails for

railroads but there changed a lot they

went

for the purpose of excursion having fun

and go out in one of these excursions

was a big party the rail was much

lighter than our current rail system

perhaps two to two and a half times

wider to accommodate a much larger car

much wider and with that of course they

had rule Italy rolling dining rooms

rolling ballrooms and could have a great

time and great fun literally traveling

from one city to the other no other

purpose other than having fun into

taking a trip somewhere as if you

weren't required to work which no one

was required to other than their social

obligation which was well inculcated

into the kids that you had an obligation

to contribute to society to pay for what

you have been using Kant had inherited

for which no money and was involved a

sort of credit system was still

functional but not otherwise next up for

fairly large credit purchases if that is

the right term they didn't really keep

track of very much it was considered

quite free as long as you were able to

make some contributions and I nobody

overloaded the system with demands that

happened very seldom that there was an

overload of demand for goods or services

so as a result of that there was a very

the abuse of the system now in this

period of time talking with many people

making friends I had a number of

questions who built this computer system

that was my first and foremost question

who maintains it what happens when it

breaks down very common questions for no

common answer and very much uncommon

answers first question about those

cities who built them who maintains them

who maintains the computers was rather

hard to answer

get an answer - no one really knew much

about the history of the construction of

the city or outran other than the

computer and you couldn't request an

interview you could request the GUI and

ask questions if it was busy with

something else okay come on in

but understanding of course that this

was a highly radioactive device there

was a radioactive crystalline structure

you had to wear the equivalent of a LED

suit a radiation suit much like NASA as

today except there was some LED material

added to make sure that you were not

affected by the hard radiation you can

go and have an interview and ask a lot

of questions and I did more than once

I've got some answers I would say the

row is satisfactory but I did find out

eventually that a number of interesting

things while there was no longer a

military I'm speaking to the 28th

century in any of the city structures

and any of the data information of this

computer complex but they did

interconnect indeed just like an email

net or another computer complex there

were a lot of people on the line giving

information and taking information the

aspect of how these computers

communicated with each other was unknown

but it didn't make the one I talked what

did make a number of interesting

statements over a period of time they

have been around for about 200 250 years

in this format in the system there was

no one to do any maintenance apparently

there was no maintenance such if one of

them broke down was simply replaced but

I wasn't satisfied with some of these

answers I started looking further didn't

find much for a while then all of a

sudden I got an invite to come visit

with another group a human group which I

did and then I found the answers to all

of my questions all of the questions I

had and mine they were able to answer

number one who built the computer system

they said they did and the project was

started about 2600 AD and was a

basically an experimental system for the

purpose of seeing if they could run an

entire civilization by computer and also

provide full socialization ie everything

is free but also in the educational

system of process inculcate the idea

that people have a moral obligation to

do something for the community because

the community had supported them

therefore they have to help support

others in the community which didn't

work most of the time in a smaller

community it works much better than in a

larger community as you get cities the

will over million population it's very

difficult to get something like this to

work and to be usable on a consistent

basis that was one of the questions I

had nor a lot of others I asked about

the military aspects know where we know

was no more military well how do you

defend yourself in case somebody comes

along that's a lot of a lot of hardware

a lot of missions a lot of a military

clout and wants to take over a city or

the whole planet and how do you prevent

this or do you well the answer was

rather complex but basically basically

it came down the fact that they had

hidden weapon systems in the cities at

every installation was a city but they

had all of these installations all over

and they were well concealed they were

not described to me as exactly what they

were but they said they were capable of

deflecting and defending a city from an

invasion from outer space there's no

data given as to whether or not there

had been any such attempt to take over

in the past but at that time we saw

nothing resembling any kind of an attack

any kind of a threat was very peaceful

as perhaps because of that peacefulness

that people were basically so happy

there it was you might say the end

result of a long dream about a pure

socialist state they had it and it

seemed to work there's only one fault

with it that I saw and this is something

which I have discerned since I've been

back after many years you get a C or

group which is purely socialistic no

money how do you keep that group

together how do you keep the society

together I've been that case you're

looking at a situation where is partly

by the will of the people

partly by show say some kind of internal

control and partly because one could say

there's a little choice if you don't

wanna live in city you go out in the

boonies if you don't know how to survive

by yourself you stay in the city

survival skills are not something that

was commonly taught in those days

because all the technical problems a

breakdown of equipment have long since

been solved and the equipment's

generally wrote who are working and

continue to work for about two hundred

years without much maintenance the

maintenance was required was definitely

directed by the intelligence in the

computer systems existed for doing

repairs and maintenance of course if

they had manufacturing systems they had

to have maintenance systems to serve as

the manufacturing equipments all of what

was manufactured they don't know there

was definitely a lot of agriculture in

the serf endless on the surface a in the

periphery basically of some of the

surface cities some of the agriculture

went outside the city limits outside the

periphery of the city but not a lot they

seemed to produce more than enough food

for what they needed

which was good there was no problem the

threats of food shortages the idea of a

threat to the survival in a civilized

society had long since faded because the

people was so well cared for

but the herein is also a problem his

people were well cared for by a

socialist system they didn't have to

work to do anything even though they

were expected to work and expect to

contribute to society it was not

demanded the things I saw in the society

and civilization were at first unique to

me and I would say with not only without

precedent I had no comparison no basis

from the memories of the 20th century

because of the time of my arrival my

memory of the 20th century was wiped out

all of the comparisons I have done have

come since because at this point I'm

able to compare what I saw at that time

with what I know of course of the 20th

century but it was sort of strange in

that I didn't know really why I was

there

I didn't know whether I had any

connection with the Philadelphia

Experiment or anything else in the past

but there I was wandering around the

city as one of the regular inhabitants

occasionally taking trips out of the

city which were a lot of fun and meeting

this group who built the computer system

now as they told me this was an

experimental system a sort of an

experiment a social behavior

not necessarily behavior modification

but social behavior to see whether they

could build a city and have it be run by

a computer after setting down certain

parameters of what you do or don't do in

a society in which you have a city or

even a smaller community it was obvious

to them as it was to me that the

experiment was largely working but my

questions

in retrospect meanings from the

viewpoint of now and from what they told

me also yes it is next

but they do not know if it will succeed

because one of the problems which

develops when you have pure socialism

like that which is working and that

everything seems to be running smoothly

you have no incentive no one has an

incentive to go out and do something new

nobody has an incentive which says you

must try something like this to make a a

better living so to speak you didn't

have to make a living everything was

provided you didn't have to get an

education and this of course but at that

point already a a severe a severe

restriction on original research because

people weren't interested in doing it so

they didn't and eventually the society

appears of it fell apart but certainly

was at its peak point I was they right

around that time 2020 900 AD and

probably was for some time after that

but the group that designed and built

this system built all of the computer

link-ups and occasionally one would go

bad as I was there just before I left

for one I go in sour and it was removed

at a later date I believe but I did

learn the name of this group of people

who are the essentially the designers of

the whole system the computer systems

the city structures the city set up they

call themselves the WingMakers now some

of you may have heard of the WingMakers

group and certainly has turned up on

20th century computers 20th century runs

and a lot of data has been turned out

hundreds of pages and some of the

manuals describing the discovery of

their stash in new mexico and about

eight 1974 and which the only thing they

found which was out of place for an

eighth century AD indian burial mound or

indian burial of whatever the item that

was out of control ii at a context was a

compass it resulted in NSA becoming

involved with this descending on the

site sealing it off and looking to see

if possibly whether we're looking at was

actually an alien type of installation a

nail

and crash or whatever they did not ever

find any evidence of aliens the fact

they didn't find enough evidence to

support any thesis so they closed it

down and after an earthquake and about

the year 1994 approximately a wall

disappeared due to the earthquake and

they had a tunnel an artificial looking

tunnel she went to a circular staircase

clawed right in the rock which is quite

obviously artificial and 23 rooms off

that staircase in the long tunnel all of

which contained relics of some

civilization was advanced paintings and

in the last on the 23rd room was a laser

disc an actual optical disc much like

what we have today except the coding in

it was such that it could not be decoded

mega long story short it took a year and

a half one of the experts there in

languages

20 languages and so ancient Sumerian and

somehow got the clues from the pictures

on the walls 23 rooms 23 pictures or

paintings and all in good shape they

finally cracked the optical discs and

they who had made the disk and left it

there stated very clearly that they had

left this - an 880 approximately 8

century

and there was 6 more like it around the

earth seven total the object was for man

to dig knees up when he got to the point

where it technically he could do it and

understand what was there and learned

their concerns about civilization well

one has been found that was in New

Mexico there are six more there were

rumors that a second one has been found

but of course the first one was totally

into the control of NSA National

Security Agency underneath the basic

organization was another one called a

cio advanced contacts intelligence

organization they are the ones who

apparently pull all of the rare and

exotic research involving finds which

might look like aliens but

in this case not to be it was a

time-travel operation and that is the

group which is set aside to do it and as

a special group within a Gao known as

the WingMakers group which was working

on this project and keeping it very very

secret they identified the group there

was some having come from the 20th

century originating in the 28th century

they called themselves the WingMakers

which is what I remember and they were

interactive with this time period also

that is the twentieth century into the

21st century they did not give me any

indication at the time when I was into a

century that they were interactive with

the 20th century but I got the distinct

impression that I had not seen the last

one from the various things they said I

have not seen them since I might add not

in any physical sense unless it was by

accident because there was no

communication and it might have been an

instance where I saw some of their

people three of them in a men's health

club on one Sunday afternoon in Atlanta

about two years ago no communication

with anyone not even communicating

between themselves the group was

telepathic and whether it was them or

not I don't know but I have a suspicion

they were too genetically perfect to

have been at this time of this era so

they could have been but since then the

indications have been via the internet

and that information which was dropped

on the net to interviews out of five

that had been given by dr. Anderson a

pseudonym but one of the senior workers

with the language capability that

protract the optical disk found an

outside person to take some interviews

five and all and translate them into a

material which would be put on the

internet he wanted the material out well

two got out and some other material and

that was the last ever seen a heard of

either and or dr. Anderson there's no

answer at this point as to whether or

not those two people are still alive or

dead what's happened to them and the

other three interviews have never

appeared on the Internet

there's enough that has appeared to make

a very substantial story and a very

substantial indications that these guys

were not flakes their section on

philosophy alone is enough to really

stir one and the pictures are very very

strange according to those who found

them on the walls they were still in

very good condition repairs this is from

the 8th century to the 20th century

which is a twelve hundred years and

there's been I was very little

deterioration or for that matter there's

very little dust in the rooms but they

found some means to protect them further

I mean the CIA does have some rather

advanced technologies available to them

and NSA and they made some further

attempt to preserve the paintings what

they did I don't know but what is

interesting is that the other stashes

have yet to turn up and they insisted

from this one optical discs that were

six more when the time was right they'd

all be found they were very concerned

about the survival of humanity

throughout this very critical period of

history meaning a twentieth century into

the 21st century now in retrospect

looking back at them and the things they

said and what I now remember they were

not convinced in my view that the

socialist experiment was a success it

was a success to revert very certain

degree in terms of the local time period

in the local era and perhaps in terms of

what problems had developed prior to

their starting this experiment ie the

collapses or near collapse of

civilization and trying to rebuild in

the period after 21:37 22nd century up

through the 26th I had no indication of

the history in that period as to what

transpired nothing was discussed with me

I got the impression that it was not

exactly in very good shape the may have

been of the problems that developed in

the interim but by that time of the 26th

century they got a handle on synthetic

intelligence they decided to go ahead

and rebuild civilization using what they

called the llama system the system of

intelligence

created in a crystalline form

consciously aware and having certain

other abilities which would normally be

classed as metaphysical these computers

were able to do things which perhaps

some of our best gurus would have

trouble doing manipulation of

matter manipulation of time by these

computers so they were not unintelligent

they were very intelligent but they had

no ethics and morality as we understand

them and as we exit use them so my

question to myself or perhaps to anyone

else is are these guys looking now

perhaps for another solution obviously

we learned in this century that if there

is no competitive spirit if there is no

desire to succeed if there is no

pressure

on an individual to learn to do

something constructive to succeed to

help build some little corner on brick

or two in our civilization without that

pressure if people don't do anything and

if you suddenly wind up in a situation

where all of your needs and wants are

granted for free and you don't have to

go out and work for them you don't have

to do something to go get them you don't

have to cut down trees go out and skin

animals for their furs to survive but

suddenly everything is handed to you on

a silver platter yeah at first that

seems great and will work for a while

but after a period of time it's going to

fall apart and I think they were at the

point where they're beginning to realize

that this was going to happen now from

that point after nearly two years I was

told I had to go back I says go back

where what for

it says well you came out of the past

and there's certain problems back there

that were unresolved and you will have

to go back and solve them I don't know

what you're talking about I didn't at

that point remember my involvement at

the Philadelphia area that was

brainwashed number one if you will and

the lava the local one kept insisting

you must go back

I said on water says you will go back

and I did but before I left during that

two-year period I met somebody became a

very close companion he happened to be a

tour guide because there were a lot of

Tours in those days and tour guides of

course were necessary to take people

around and show them the sights and

showing some of the old cities New York

City was a museum if you will as were

some other the old cities in the 20th

century those that survived and they

made very nice museums out of them New

York was a sort of the model to show how

people live in the 20th century a great

deal of it I did go on that tour a great

deal of it was still intact most of

Manhattan not all of it

Brooklyn Queens were essentially

destroyed and they didn't make any

attempt to rebuild it because the

destruction was too heavy but the

concrete and steel of New York of

Manhattan and some of the other

buildings adjacent to Manhattan survived

and what little damage the was was

repaired and they made a very nice

Museum of it you can go through it and

tour it see the underground subway

systems I don't think they're up as I

remember they were not operational but

everything was there made a very

interesting review of history from the

standpoint of those of the 20th century

what we take for granted today of course

they didn't and at that point I did not

have my memory of the 20th century but

as time went on I came back after I left

the 20th century they said I had to go

back so I was sent back and of course

this raises the question were they the

ones who brought me up there in the

first place I certainly didn't have any

how had we handy to do it I certainly

had no desire to go to the 20th century

I knew nothing about it so I went back

to 21 37 Duncan was there and I was

moved with the idea we had to go back I

had no idea how we were going to go back

and I wasn't even sure at that point

where but we did go back we were sent

back to 1983

the tomb of the early morning hours

approximately 2:00 a.m. a 12 August 1983

inside the chain-link fence of Montauk

Point and this search lights came down

from a large helicopter and MPs of quite

a number came out grabbed us and took us

to the building where when we boarded an

elevator went down below and then of

course met dr. John von Neumann at the

point of our return however that is to

1983 a great deal the memory of the

other elements came back at this point

I'm still not sure how much if it came

back but quite a bit of it did and when

we were returned to the Eldridge by the

crew and his system at Montauk nearly

the time tunnel and we're back in the

Eldridge and it was back in the harbor

and we went up an arm that is I wound up

in the four-day board of inquiry Duncan

jumped overboard and went back to the

later part of that century in the 20th

century but after giving my report of

course I was not believed in retrospect

I can understand why it was not believed

it was who in the year 1983 is going to

believe a story about 1943 is going to

believe a story about 1983 much less

about further on in the future than that

or be hard enough to understand 1983

it's only 40 years but enormous changes

took place far more than would never

have been normally expected and let us

say the mental projection of what comes

on after 1943 nobody expected such rapid

development of aircraft of automobiles

of highways of freeways systems of

electronics of computers of course in

1983 computers were not in the form to

any extent of personal computers as

today the case in the year 2000 but

nevertheless computers existed and they

were proliferating and every way and

every respects but then to pad a story

about 2137 I'm sure that was a little

bit too much they thought I was a little

bit ill I got

some radiation sickness nobody said that

because they gave a very coherent report

but I'm sure they might well have been

thinking it

Duncan was not there to back me up

unfortunately and he went on back to the

year 1983 late 82 early 83 were not sure

I say I'm not sure because those records

we didn't dig out until after the month

to a project collapsed I was in the 90s

95 96 were able to find out what

happened to Duncan the rest of the story

of Duncan we were able to finally piece

together was rather bizarre in its own

way when Duncan and I were sent back to

the elders to destroy the equipment

which we did and the fields were

collapsing it took over two minutes for

that totally collapse and we found the

two sailors bury in the steel of a deck

in the steel of a bulkhead for the other

two and I went over to talk with his

brother Jim who was crying and dying and

did die Duncan became so dismayed by all

of this that he headed for the railing

and looked back at me like well aren't I

coming along with him and I replied no

so he jumped over Boyd and as we found

out later he wound up back at Montauk

not at the same point in time 12 August

83 but considerably earlier and became

part of the project and did a lot of

work for them the records indicated that

as the records after the year in 1983

that in one of the time tunnel

operations that he was involved in he

didn't know know something was strictly

forbidden is that four regions they

didn't understand occasionally side

tunnels developed and their orders were

never to go down the side tunnels

because they didn't know why they were

created how they were created or where

they went and the OREA water was don't

take a chance don't go down him oh you

don't say that's a Duncan not as he was

then so he did down with the side

tunnels I went up in the hands of aliens

and they demanded of him that we want a

certain piece of hardware like what now

they told them there's a certain power

package crystal aboard that UFO which

is the buried in the underground there

as part of the Montauk Project we want

that crystal back my talk it says well I

don't have to do with it just as well

you will go back and get it or you will

send somebody back to get it in fact

they will just keep you here and hope

that somebody finds out you're missing

into sends another person here and we're

given the message so eventually the

message got back at Duncan had a problem

and that the solution was to remove that

large crystal and energy storage crystal

unnamed UFO it wasn't was delivered

there and Duncan was released but by

that time the damage had been done his

time locks have been broken and he was

eating an extremely rapid read now you

may ask what is a time lock we're

referring to that ambiguous item which

involves how is a person a new soul or

an old soul doesn't matter that is a

taking possession of a body that is in

the process of being generated from the

fetus onward how did he lock into that

particular body well there is a

connecting link that is also a

connecting link to that point in the

time stream as the reference point that

this is where the person's life begins

both physically and in terms of the

attachment of the soul when the body and

the body's gone and the soul is free

they can travel up and down the time

stream if they want to and take a body

at some other time frame then the next

slot so to speak after they died and

occasionally this happens in any case

Duncan wad up dying slowly but surely

aging very rapidly the station personnel

and those who were able to do age

reversal already had that equipment

there because they used it on me later

apparently couldn't reverse them fast

enough to keep it from overwhelming them

and they in spite of the best efforts he

was continuing to each so times old to

the rescue namely Montauk back to the

locate father and warn him and tell him

that

dumpin was dying you can't have this

happen because

the time stability problems kept busy

and make another Duncan so he married

his fifth wife illegal or marriage first

job one was a sister and the second one

was Duncan that was in June 28th 1951

now for some very complex reasons the

soul of Duncan could not enter that body

directly at that time of birth normally

that's what happens this most of the

time I could not so they had to have a

surrogate soul and as a surrogate soul

was found to inhabit that body as a

perfectly normal functioning body which

it didn't dump in number two went to

school acted like a very bright

youngster I pictures up in that pay

phase at that time dumpin does not want

them be shown publicly now and he grew

up to the age of 12 and according to

information acquired later at the age of

12 and the 12th of August 1963 the

circuit saw was kicked out and the real

Duncan came in his mother had reported a

very sharp change in the personality at

the time period he age of 12 in July

August and that of course didn't mean

anything to us until there's like

reverse-engineering reverse-engineered

what happened to Duncan and we find out

rather at a strange but actually varèse

a conclusive way when the project

collapsed in 1983 dumpling was off of it

I was offered president many other

people but don't can I had a lot of

psychological problems as a result of

his involvement with the Montauk Project

the Montauk Boys and eventually he came

to seek help from someone he was told

could help and then we press the Nichols

now at this point of course he had been

brainwashed that his debriefed just as

head Preston as that I had had everybody

else who survived that operation and he

didn't know Preston when he walked in

the door Preston didn't know Duncan but

he says first of all he had some high

five

when he wanted fixed which breast

murmurs and the business of doing and

then the matter of discussions that went

on after that point person asked me a

few questions and says well it sounds

like you have some problems if you're

willing we'll try some deprogramming

we'll try some hypnosis on you so about

1986 he hypnotized Duncan and took them

back from gradually from the period of

the Montauk Project to the age of 12

which everything seemed to be normal as

normal it's going to be expected time

together so forth then they took Duncan

back so let's go earlier well they did a

quantum leap jump to the decks of the

Eldridge this is what was ported to me

by Preston after the hypnosis session

and was on the deck knee says I'm at

some strange ship called the Eldridge

and so there are people here that I know

today as one of them is Al Bielek and he

names some others have been meaning to

me and the aspect of the Montauk Boys

program but at least we had determined

what had happened to the Duncan we knew

that I met at that time as Al Bielek was

essentially the same Duncan except that

there is a buddy change and by the same

father the body came out nearly the same

a different mother but that has a long

and howling experience trying to dig all

that out and we did breast intercourse

was having problems with his own

memories and to this day he is asked for

help and he says I don't know anybody

can deprogram me I can deprogram

everybody else but he's going to

deprogram me says I want to get clear

this also that was a very interesting

statement on his part and of course

today it doesn't do too much about it

because he's had to drop all the

deprogramming efforts because he got

into shall we say some difficulty with

the military over some of us

deprogramming efforts with some of the

local boys and sailors and military

people and non-military people on a Long

Island area he had quite a reputation

president I mean

and people sought them out today we

won't do any deprogramming is in other

areas now let's get on to some other

things here which I want to include in

this report or shall I say this whole

thing of my history there was another

element I'm not going to get into an

appropriate depth when I was removed

from Los Alamos laboratories reassigned

to the Pentagon and of course went to

Muroc now Edwards Air Force Base and was

a witness to the mock wound proceedings

in the Mach 1 test which was successful

as I had stated on 28 october 1947 I met

Jack Ridley who was a aeronautical

engineer with a master's degree from

Caltech was also a pilot and the army

and of course eventually became the Army

Air Force and about 1947 they were just

changing over to the official US Air

Force I got to know quite well we talked

great deal about this problem of

propulsion high speed aircraft and such

we're discussing the aspects of future

travel such as in space and we came to

the conclusion Hill rockets are fine for

short periods of time they're very

powerful but they are very short-lived

they don't last long nASA has made them

work amazingly well but that's still the

same story and basic principle a lot of

power for a relatively short period of

time how do you conduct long extended

explorations in space now this is

without any consideration of the montauk

tunnel situation or anything like that

which at that point we knew nothing

about because it hadn't yet happened I'm

speaking of course in 1947 under 48 we

became good friends and we both hatched

up an idea where I need to develop as a

my own propulsion engine well we were

convinced would work we're both

physicists when he had the advantage of

also being an aeronautical engineer and

he liked the idea so he went back to his

principles in the Air Force and I went

back to mine and then a

get the Pentagon gave a pitch as to what

we thought would be some of the future

engine's future propulsion systems

particularly for space exploration and

we thought we could develop one well

both the Navy in the Air Force loved the

idea and they gave us some monies as go

ahead and acquire a facility will fund

it see what you can do and put us on

executive leave

I don't know now why we made the

decision to go to California but Edwards

is in Eastern California and we liked

the idea of perhaps something closer to

the ocean we wound up acquiring a

facility which is about half a mile east

of coast 101 which does say about a half

a mile east of the beach and who was up

in an area which was at that time

extremely open one of the roads led up

into the canyon country Topanga Canyon

specifically and this Beach Road was

where we built the facility we started

operations about 49 without going of the

history of the failures of which there

were many and we had a small staff was

all paid for by the military by in 1952

it looks like we're beginning somewhere

is in January 1953 we had the first

fully successful test we had an engine

on the test and which produced twelve

hundred pounds thrust for twenty minutes

and I go was 1,000 pounds thrust for ten

minutes what we exceeded it I decided

we're going to let the end range and run

all day to see if it would it didn't one

of the ion feeds broke down after 20

minutes we had to shut it down even

though it was a very highly classified

project the word got around for the

industry yeah craft industry of course

and Douglas of Long Beach was ecstatic

they wanted to work with us I don't know

what they had in mind but they did

definitely like what we had done and

wanted to work with us Martin aircraft

and the East Coast which was a well

known aircraft company at that time and

still exist DOMA has merged with

Lockheed were so we say really gruff no

comment Boeing heard about it and they

hit the roof well we got the feedback on

that when we figured well they must have

something in the role in the skunkworks

their own smoke works and probably we

beat them to the draw appears on the

scene at that point my father the

natural father Alexander Duncan camera

senior whose life has been a great

mystery and only in the last year we've

been able to put together some of the

missing pieces at that time I had almost

none of the missing pieces other than we

know he disappeared for long periods of

time and superimposing knowledge from

now on what happened then I will say

when he approached us and said to us I

like what you're doing incorporate and I

will give you unlimited funding he says

if you ever get this company off the

ground you will undoubtedly make a great

deal of money and this will become a man

a multi-million multinational company so

he was all for backing it and his source

of funds was a strange organization

called the Wolfsburg trust since WOL FSB

urg trusts out of Wolfsburg Germany

founded by dr. Hans Porsche the founder

of Porsche motor car company and of

course VW motor car company the info I

have which is sketchy and is very

difficult to get information on almost

brick trust is that it was founded by

hands portion the thirties and of course

there was under the nose of Hitler but

Hitler was not completely the maniac at

least in those days that is when has

been portrayed to be and he was rather

hard-headed at that time and his

problems let his Hitler's problems going

off the deep end occurred apparently

after 1941 but that time at least hands

Porsche made a trust fund which he

intended as it accrued money would be

available after the times at that time

he saw the war coming he said after the

war would be available for third world

countries that wish to become democratic

governments now they would hopefully

have enough money to help these smaller

countries to incorporate their own

government and democratic basis at the

time the father walked in that office I

didn't know how much money he had or

where it came from but since then I

found out that the Wolfsburg trust at

its peak which was around that period

had something over three trillion

dollars in

trust trillion not billion they

definitely had the clout to help a few

nations become independent well father

said he would put up all the money we

should incorporate we didn't cooperate

between January and March we had the

papers in the mill and I filed for

patents I don't know if they're ever

issued or not or where they went because

of what happened to only two months

later in March of 1953 I one of the

business trips when Jack was out of town

taking care of business and such I don't

know whether there's company business or

Navy business he said he had to go to

town on business

I'm sorry airforce business but he was

out of town and during that time a

period when sitting in the office one

day a team of black ops personnel

descend on e7 of them the grab me take

me out of the building in front of

everyone and if we go down to Washington

DC in from Washington DC when taken to

McLean Virginia a special joint facility

of both NSA and CIA and as too much to

my surprise not knowing anything much

about this sort of thing not expecting

another return of what we had

anticipated and gone through in the

Philadelphia Experiment there they had a

portal inside one of those buildings of

the facility at McLean Virginia and I

was kicked in it

and they wound up elsewhere so what else

was know this one was definitely very

new we went up as I was told after

arrival an office entire e11 being

planet number one in their system and I

was being interrogated by a group of

near human looking beings about 6 foot

high they had essentially human form the

facial features were not exactly human

they were rough but in any case they

interrogated me for some four days they

wanted to know my history what I had

done where I was doing because I want to

know what the blazes I was doing there

and what their interest was well I've

had the feeling that my life hung in the

balance and that if I wanted to get out

of there I better tell them everything

so I started with the Philadelphia

Herman was going in the Navy the

Philadelphia Experiment oh yes we know

about that and well of a time travel Oh

where'd you go well I went to 21:37 mmm

okay then I went to the 20th century

then he got a little more interested I

told him about what I saw there and so

forth and they expressed some passing

interest but I said I met a strange

group there I saw was that so the

WingMakers and I told them all about

them these guys absolutely went bonkers

they freaked out

they said you contacted who and I said a

group that calls himself the WingMakers

said you're going back and they did

something which I learned since rarely

ever happens I was shipped back to the

point of origin namely that Naevia that

CIA NSA facility at Fort McLean Virginia

they were sent back to the Pentagon and

the next thing I asked was when am I

going to go back to California nobody

would give me an answer

and I kicked around the Pentagon for

months literally from sometime late

March

that same day almost that I was taken

out I've several days later because

there was four days passed on office

Atari which did not correlate directly

with our time frame was close and I had

nothing to do no job to perform a report

in daily as I respected to do at a

living quarters could not see the family

was not allowed to last time I saw them

was in 1952 when I snuck a visit to the

family finding out where they were at

that time four out of California so this

went on for months and I kept asking

questions well what am I going to be

able to go back and do some work I

wasn't doing any work of any kind nobody

would give me an answer

I finally went up to the Joint Chiefs of

Staff and asked them particularly the

Navy don't know we know what's going on

can't give you an answer

go away type of attitude not that of

rough a statement but that kind of

attitude like they wished I wasn't

asking the question

because you don't get that gruff with

somebody the rank I had which was then

captain in the US Navy but they wouldn't

give me an answer either way they give

me any bad treatment neither did they

give me any answers and I stood there

and I walked around there and worked a

little bit now and then finally went to

the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and

asked him what's going on so forth he

says frankly says I can't tell you he

says I don't know I says well I'd like

to get back in on mainstream of the Navy

I'm a career man I would like to finish

my term I would like to do what I'm a

Spectre to do what I'm capable of doing

and he looked at me almost here fully

says I'm sorry there's nothing I can do

and I'll not forget those words quote it

is out of our hands unquote

now this is the Joint Chiefs of Staff

and finally the chairman of the Joint

Chiefs saying it is out of his hands if

it's out of his hands whose hands

was it in certainly not the President of

the United States under military matter

like this who was probably totally

unaware of the projects of an ongoing so

where did it go well it obviously went

back to where a Justin returned from

Alpha Centauri before I left

I should say before I was removed from

the operation in our little facility on

the beach a group had started nosing

around like they were interested in

taking over our operation and that is a

group called the Cristal D research

group give a little info on that very

briefly but I remembered the name

because at that point they were poking

around after father had also made his

pitch and asking questions and as a left

or is about to leave the office entire

group I happened to ask them oh do you

anything about a course toldi research

group oh yeah we run them and that stuck

in my craw for quite a while it provided

some answers

and an analysis of what did finally

happen to that company jack really was

removed in 1954 it was shut down he

tried to keep it going but he could not

keep it going very well alone and when

he was removed nobody could who was shut

down students sat in limbo for years

eventually he was research corporation

was formed and they bought the property

was in malibu in malibu beach area about

a 1/2 mile east of the beach and it's

very visibly there today much expanded

but the original facility was in limbo

for years and nothing happened well in

the last year I mean the last year of

the last century 1999 having not

recalled up to that point of January any

of this what I just described to you I

fell across a book in the Barnes & Noble

bookstore entitled the history of Mach 1

I was a title on the book was literally

the history of the development of the

Mach 1 plus aircraft at Edwards then

Muroc I looked at it as oh I know a

little bit about this and wonder what

these people have to say about it so I

open to look through it found some pea

pictures and open the book and they were

looking at a picture of five of the crew

members or the associated crew for the

bell x-1 Chuck Yeager was in the middle

and on the right end was a man by the

name of Jack Ridley they didn't know the

name but when I looked at it I

recognized Yeager Ridley I recognized as

I know this guy where is he from

what's the connection I know I know I've

never forgotten the face no matter how

much I've been brainwashed and I

recognized them I knew him from

somewheres who was that search from

January of 1999 and so approximately

September and then a lot of corollary

research with let us say internet

searching brought up some of the most

interesting answers Jack Riley of course

as I described was an Air Force he

became part of that project he was

thrown out in 1954

the project collapsed but on the history

of his life there's a huge gap on the

internet history of Ridley's life

between 1948 and 1956 it's blank

completely in 1956 he formed a company

of his own entitled Ridley and Oran

article machines and Coral Gables

Florida I don't know it was successful

or not the net report didn't say but in

1957 he flew to Japan to have a reunion

the tenth year reunion of the group for

Mach one projects he crashed his plane

the public record says that he died in

that crash was that a big Memorial thing

for him and that the tower at Edwards

Air Force Base today is called Jack

Ridley Tower as a result of that but I

have other information that says he

didn't die in that crash that he lived

on he survived the crash and was brought

back to health slowly but eventually

died about seven years later at Edwards

and I'm not even sure if that's a true

report but that was what I was told the

other informations I guess again

confidential from very confidential

sources said that yes he did die on 54

but then the time travel crews went back

and pulled him out before he died so

here we Garrett again into the area of

not merely timing manipulation but

altering history pulled him out probably

gave him a brainwashing because they

have not met him since and put him back

to work under his own name rumors were

that he was back up in Marietta Georgia

at the Martin Marietta which later

became the a Martin Lockheed company

that he had been there I could find no

trace of him going through the entire

shall we say department of personnel all

their records did they find a Jack

Ridley

no nobody that name here we haven't run

anybody by that name here and so forth

he may have been there under a pseudonym

I don't know but I've never found them

but the facts are that GRC Enterprises

is alive and well

it is still in some manner functional it

has carried as a wholly owned subsidiary

of the Cristalli research group now

comes the question who is the chris

tolly research group that was a question

it took a great deal of effort to come

up with any answers at all - they were

listed on the internet as chris tolly

research group offices in principal

cities office and of acting vatican and

the sort of thing and also that they

were building a new facility on Long

Island a headquarters facility more than

one person was involved in the search

for me and the one of them found out

that it was quite obvious that the

headquarters for cristal D was the

Vatican itself because two and a half

centuries ago a man by the name of

Cristal D the Castaldi family was the

treasurer for the Vatican and that I've

so proved very very interesting they had

large sums of money available they

apparently intervened at a time when

there is some very original or event

guide information being made being made

available research being done such as we

were doing with the ion propulsion

engine and we found some interesting

material the project which we were on we

were trying to develop was scuttled

unburied for years in the last few years

chris tolly research group is now

functioning at the University of Georgia

Georgia Tech on the Mars colonization

project this is straight off the

internet and what this project entails

is the developing of a elevator system

from the surface of Mars to an orbiting

stationary vehicle which has supplies

onboard transferring personnel

transferring objects Hardware tools

whatever and they would use an elevator

I'm quite

the planned and consisting of a carbon

filament type structure very strong and

anion propulsion engine to run the

elevator from the surface back up to the

top and to control its descent and of

course Cristal is involved with us so

the project apparently has been

resurrected I have not yet been able to

begin there sufficiently to find out

what I can find out if anything but I do

intend to do so of course there were

other ion propulsion engine projects

have returned up in the meantime as a

Kaufmann engine there are several others

I think nASA has gotten into it there

were rumors that Hughes themselves got

into it back in the 60s and developed an

ion propulsion engine for use aboard a

b-52 perhaps to replace the if

sufficiently strong or enough propulsion

to replace the jet engines that way they

could not do that they found that out

and one of the limitations of a

propulsion engine of that type I on

propulsion he is about 2,000 pounds

thrust under the theories which were

then current current and I came up with

a conclusion at that time that the math

was incomplete and was not correct

obviously not totally wrong because we

made an engine work but that as you

increase the power up to a point like

about two thousand pounds thrust the

mathematics has an inbuilt error

function which will not allow you to get

past about two thousand pounds thrust

I was already past that and I was ready

to design an engine for ten thousand

pounds thrust which would have made a

difference not only in space but on some

of our military aircraft because the

b-52 and the earlier versions at least

ran eight engines with twenty thousand

pounds thrust each currently I believe

they run about thirty thousand pounds

with water injection and a few other

booster systems for takeoff power b-52

is still being flown with eight engines

of 30,000 pounds plus that's a lot of

thrust and of course we have the c-130

the c5 a as the particular one I mean to

refer to using much larger jet engine

today and of course it's a very very

heavy crane

I don't know if that could ever be

converted to Haiyan propulsion engine

because it's not intended to go to space

anyway but the project died that may in

be currently resurrected but I've yet to

find any kind of information about it I

did find enough to know that my

recollection jrc enterprises was quite

correct it's on the internet anybody can

find it in a way to look you have to

look at it for it under chris tolly

research group but it won't give you

much of the history of what years the

enterprises did if any at all a strange

thing happens a history of those

developments and those activities which

the establishment does not want on

record for the general public as a way

of disappearing on the subject of time

travel I think a few comments are

necessary or at least desirable on my

part

many people cannot accept the idea of

time travel many scientists for that

matter cannot say it's impossible

but again we get to that strange schism

between important expression public

science and private science by public

science I mean I which is taught in the

universities and is commonly accepted

throughout industry in the trade the

private science being that which is

restricted to only a few to certain

government agencies a certain major

private corporations that helped build

some of the software in secret and there

is a large gap or it schism there over

the city I think an average of 50 years

in reality in science and technologies

about 50 years ahead of what is reported

and taught and the usual school systems

and even the best school systems with

the idea that as I have found time

travel as a reality it actually was

first accidentally discovered in 1936

goes back to a Navy expedition evolving

a brand new USS Kearsarge digging around

in the South Pacific north of the shores

as I'm sorry the South Atlantic north of

the shores of Atlanta

in South America perhaps on the fringe

of the so called permeate triangle they

found a large crystalline structure on

the floor of the ocean sent divers down

to examine it the next thing they knew

the Eldridge oh sorry

mr. bad the elders wasn't able to do it

this way

the Kearsarge disappeared about two

months later it came back with a very

strange explanation that is had time

traveled into the future and those

people in the future realized what had

happened knew about the Atlantean

installations and showed them how to

calibrate their system because these

crystals were activated by a combination

of electronic or actually RF and

magnetic energies of a certain

combination certain frequencies and so

forth there were key that turned this

thing on and they knew that the

Atlanteans have built these ages ago

when Atlantis was an empire that was

traveling all over the world moving

heavy hardware everywhere and they used

them for transport of large and very

heavy car goes from point A to point B

almost instantaneously didn't have to

expend any fuel on it it was a very

quick and easy and very inexpensive

transportation for very heavy loads is

also usable as the corsage found out for

time travel they were told how they

could calibrate the system and by the

end of two years of research they

figured out a system to utilize this

system of crystals which apparently on

the ocean floor all over the US I'm

sorry all over the world around the u.s.

and around any other ocean on occasion

ocean surrounded or ocean adjacent

nation so they found out that they could

use this system for time travel I don't

know if they ever attempted to use it

for just plain point-to-point travel

then I'm not aware of it the stories I

ran into on the information I had which

partly came out of the Los Alamos

laboratories black vault as did so much

other things as they found out how to

calibrate it they were able to use the

Kearsarge and later on a number of other

ships

some of the outfitted with the

appropriate equipment for time travel

into the future and this allegedly

according to my information became

essential to the winning of World War

two against Nazi Germany we had to pull

some hardware out of the future modify a

few things and even if you look at the

end of the war when we dropped a

plutonium bomb as well as a standard

uranium gun barrel type bomb on Japan

so when Hiroshi was on the uranium gun

barrel bomb and the one on Nagasaki by

public statement wasn't a plutonium bomb

one has to ask some very serious

questions since in the record of the

development of the atomic bomb these

tests at Trinity flats was stated and

their manuals and they declare that

information to be a plutonium bomb and

that it took all of the production of

plutonium out of Hanford engineering

works for over a year to produce enough

plutonium a bomb grade that they could

use to test a bomb they were so

concerned about whether it would work or

not because they implied previous

failures which was true they put a steel

a very heavy steel shell around the bomb

in case it fails that they wouldn't lose

the plutonium they can salvage it of

course it has happened that that

particular device exploded quite well

left a nice glassy plating on the

fertile desert floor and was seen for

many many miles that took all of the

plutonium that we had produced up to

that time how did we within one month

get enough plutonium to build a bomb and

drop it on Nagasaki that has never been

answered and I think the answer lies in

the fact that we had time-travel

capability I took some of the plutonium

production out of the future were in the

80s and 90s and seventies even we were

able to produce hidden rather large

amounts relatively speaking the Russians

over 40 years and one of the secret

cities have built up a stock of 40 tons

of bomb-grade plutonium they don't know

what to do with and they're still

producing it so it's not that difficult

to produce once you have the curve of

the proper facilities other than that

one specific instance

I'm told there were other instances of

time travel being used to produce

Hardware in the future that is our era

let us say the 80s to be used during the

period of World War two the bottom line

was we militarily defeated Hitler and

the Axis powers and Japan and the world

settled back to an uneasy peace this is

a shall we say a small inference a small

indicator of manipulating history in

this case ongoing history to make it

come out the way we wanted it to come

out

assuming all my data is correct what

about modifying history in the past to

change the outcome and what is now that

our time was of course the future of

let's say the period of the Civil War

what about doing something like that

could it be done and if it was what

could be done it was done would we even

know about it lands is the last question

is no we would not know about it because

if you rewrote history by changing

certain events in history and the whole

time field alters that portions of

history after the event to correlate

with what has been changed so that as a

unified connected and cohesive whole so

to speak and if you keep modifying

history here there and everywhere is

eventually got in a severe trouble we're

in the time field is at risk of collapse

I think my own personal opinion on

stating I think this happened in 94 95

period because I was seeing evidence

that time is getting very unstable and

there were some reports of some very

strange effects than at atomic clocks

which normally are accurate to one part

and 10 to the 23rd or something of that

order on the newest ones one time since

14th or 15th on the older ones was

suddenly changing time by the matter of

minutes in a matter of two weeks

complete and total instability if you

will in terms of the type of clock it

was these reports persisted and I cannot

say they're not true and I cannot

say the odd through because I don't have

any direct inputs to those two

government circles we're in that

information would be available but

information as a funny way of surfacing

in a funny way of getting around through

certain connected links of information

and information specialists that was

when I definitely heard now in terms of

re-engineering history on a major basis

let us look at the Civil War that is our

American Civil War 1861-1865 history

books today record of course has

everyone can read the North won the war

it was a devastating war without

question we lost more troops in that war

dead than all of the wars combined

including World War one on World War two

over 550,000 dead someone I think 1.2 to

1.5 million injured I'm not sure those

figures are even accurate because they

weren't keeping accurate figures at that

point history records we the North won

the war against the South the southern

states of course seceded they had every

legal right to do so the war was not

over slavery was over economic issues

and of course that is fairly well known

that does have dung into it but no it is

not well known is the fact that

something strange happened about 1863

the South was winning war hands-down up

until 1863 every battle they engaged the

north and they won as the north noted

and the historians have noted the

generalship was superb in the south with

half the hardware in terms of guns and

other military hardware that the North

had the South was able to beat the pants

off of them then in 1863 changed

suddenly I think was the Battle of

Antietam that gene turned around the

north started winning and of course they

beat more and more southern troops

southern generals were changed and

there's a general retreat into the south

and of course and finally Sherman had

his march to the sea in which they

burned Atlanta

and the South was defeated according to

the history books as we read today the

rest is history I don't need to go into

it suppose that were not what really

happens in the first place how would we

possibly know it how could we know it

because if there was a change made and

who won the war

then everything following on in the time

field would be changed except perhaps

off planet or except perhaps in one

other item one other area which perhaps

you might not give too much credence to

but is worth investigating what about

people who lived through the civil war

died let's say 1880 1890 and reborn and

living today what would they remember if

you could probe their subconscious

memories the memories from past lives

and what would they say about who won

the Civil War I've heard a number of

accounts and I have one very good friend

in Arizona a lady friend who has told me

in all of her psychic encounters and all

of our memories that she has been able

to pull out a past life she remembers

living through the Civil War era and

when she died I was our memory that the

South had won the Civil War and at the

capitol of the United States have been

moved to Richmond Virginia and that

there was literally a line of

demarcation between the north and the

south there was never totally unified

after that of course that would be a

disaster for history as we know it today

if that had happened because who knows

what the US would ever become a world

power as it is now but that is her

memory and I also have some friends who

insist that they have taken part in time

engineering projects re-engineering

history that is going back into the past

and doing things which were perhaps in

most cases minor modifications I

wouldn't cause a great deal of impact on

our current civilization maybe very

little but where Corrections of some

kind or other one of these friends

insisted he was one of many teams sent

back from what time period I've yet to

find out I've been able to nail it down

and I'm

to talk of them not much there are sent

back several teams male and female into

the year of about nineteen sixty two

sixty 1862 1863 of the Civil War and

filtrate the south and become part of

the General Staff the of the southern

armies in the southern generalship well

they're on General Lee staff directly

and I don't know but they were well

unfilter ated and then their function

became not so obvious to the south but

obvious in terms of results they gave

this information to the southern

military leaders as to the contents of

the northern troops armaments etc etc

based on historical information they

have been given from the future if you

will and then the south started with

losing battles one after the other and

finally they won they no longer won the

war they had lost the war because of it

the history is reengineered our soto so

told mesa this one friend who was part

of one of the teams I don't find that

impossible my own commentary on that is

it's very possible because Lincoln as

president was faced with a terrible

quandary and I certainly would not want

to have been in his position he was

quite a humanitarian he wanted to in

slavery and of course slavery in the

South actually was ending any case the

war was not fought over slavery but

economic conditions the assault that

already freed a lot of slaves and many

of the former slaves black men had

become plantation owners and were hiring

if you will black slaves slavery had

been cut off by the English government

at 1825 was no longer legal to ship

slaves on any English ship anyways in

the entire realm of England's which

included the colonies or what were

formerly the colonies in the United

States it was outlawed the only ones

left who were really engaging in slave

trade at that time were the New England

business men now that sounds like a

strange comment but that is historically

correct to the best of my knowledge and

they were engaging in keeping us going

because there was an extremely lookit

business a lot of money was made on it

but nevertheless there was a failing

institution before the war started the

South was disengaging from slavery the

North or long since had and practical

aspects but the war of course was still

fought and of course one of the other

one the history records now the North

won it will leave it at that because it

has made the United States a very strong

world power and I certainly would not

wanted to have made some of the choices

which Lincoln did instituted the first

draft he became the first president in

history to have instituted the function

of the commander in chief and then

declare a national emergency and start

issuing executive orders he was the

first president in our history to do

this every president since then has they

don't want to let go of that little

piece of power which says he can write

an order which overrides Congress in the

Senate and he instituted the tax laws

the first ones in the country of course

that resulted major riots were repealed

but a lot has changed in our history and

a lot has changed behind the scenes

historically that we are not aware of

and this business of tree engineering

history through manipulating of time may

not be functional today because the

problems induced by doing this to an

excessive amount but definitely has been

done and has continued up to nearly the

present time whether this will happen in

the future or not I don't know

time travel still is functional in spite

of some people saying it is not and some

others saying it is totally impossible I

know the locations of some of the time

operational equipment time tunnels if

you will but I'm not about to reveal

them I do have some respect for national

security in spite of what some people

say but I think my comments are quite

sufficient time travel from everything

I've seen and having participated in it

myself including some of the troops in

the past I know it works I know it's

real that's something which perhaps the

first time you do it is rather

overwhelming to understand what you are

doing

what has being done it is not something

which the average person will ever

experience

whatever believed and those who are the

participants are very carefully chosen

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