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The Federal Criminal Police Office in Wiesbaden.

The man who helped establish the agency has been its president for six years,

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Paul Dickopf, a top official with an apparently clean record,

suggests that he had been an opponent of the Nazis.

Until 1971 and the Brandt era, he is West Germany's top criminal investigator.

Anyone who criticized him or threatened him,

he never forgot that.

He was very unforgiving

and he also destroyed people like that.

Dickopf doesn't just pursue a career in West Germany.

In 1968, he becomes the head of Interpol.

Now it is his job to fight international crime.

Interior Minister Genscher said at Dickopf's farewell

that he was an example to the police throughout Germany.

After Dickopf's death in 1973,

officials do research for the obituary of the former president.

What they find leaves them speechless.

They expose Dickopf as a committed Nazi.

His lifelong lie is now uncovered.

IDENTITY CARD

Dickopf was not just a member of the SS and a Nazi spy.

Shortly before the end of the war, he switched sides

and began working as an agent for the Americans.

Many CIA documents have information about Caravel.

That was Dickopf's CIA code name.

Germany's top police officer provides secret information

from government circles in Bonn for payment.

Chancellor Willy Brandt and his Ostpolitik

were of particular interest to the Americans.

Dickopf readily provided information…

like many other Nazis during the Cold War.

They became willing helpers, spies

because the US intelligence services could use their past to blackmail them.

It rarely bothered the Americans

that certain people that they needed

had been close to mass murderers, extremists, or terrorists.

The ends justified the means.

The American intelligence services were fighting a new enemy, communism,

with the help of Nazis who worked for them as spies.

For them, it wasn't about punishing criminals.

As the Cold War grew hot, these Nazi collaborators

became the pawns of western intelligence services for a variety of reasons.

They were used for covert operations and this type of thing.

Only now are many intelligence services files from the Cold War accessible,

documents about Nazis who as agents, became willing collaborators with the CIA,

such as Eugen Steimle.

His case was previously unknown.

This committed Nazi was in charge of firing squads in the Soviet Union.

Steimle was presumed dead at the end of the war,

as one of the victims of a Lufthansa plane that crashed

on April 20, 1945 near Nuremberg.

Eyewitnesses saw the burning plane.

The crash site in the Piesenkofen forest can still be seen today.

Here we can see the crater caused by the crash.

At the time, local residents collected everything

they could find in the wreckage.

This included a briefcase with documents and identity cards,

including Steimle's.

The briefcase was taken to local Nazi Party headquarters.

A few days later, US troops marched into the area.

The briefcase was confiscated by the Army's intelligence service.

The Americans were looking for Nazis they could use for their own purposes.

Thus, every personal detail was useful to them.

They suspected that Steimle was still alive.

CIA documents on the contents of the briefcase

now enable us to reconstruct the events.

SENIOR OFFICIAL EUGEN STEIMLE

On April 20, 1945, in the middle of the final battle for Berlin,

the last Lufthansa plane takes off from Tempelhof.

Following Hitler's demise, the passengers know

the pact between the Russians and the West is worthless.

On board the Condor are more than 20 passengers,

including several men in leather coats.

The captain seeks the cover of darkness.

The weather is bad.

Their destination is Spain with a stop in Munich for fuel.

I can still remember my father saying at breakfast in the morning.

KARL WEISS EYEWITNESS

"A plane flew over making a loud rumbling noise."

My friend lives close to here

and in the evening, a burning plane flew over the roof of her house.

And in a complete panic, her mother grabbed both children,

and threw herself and them to the floor.

She said, "Your father died in the war. Now we'll all die together."

The plane crashes in the forest.

None of the passengers survive.

Were high-ranking Nazis trying to escape to Spain on the Condor?

Who was on board?

The American intelligence services fly the briefcase and documents to the USA.

The agents in Washington know the end of the war marks the beginning

of a new chapter in the confrontation between the superpowers.

To gain an advantage,

they will force former Nazi officers to work for their organization.

The Americans are successful.

One person in the documents particularly catches their eye,

the former SS Standartenführer named Eugen Steimle.

Their research reveals that the man was responsible for mass murder in Russia.

The agents have reason to believe he is not dead.

Several witnesses claim to have seen him after the crash.

Again they question the population near the site of the crash.

Steimle is a war criminal.

He is very valuable to them.

It was impossible to systematically recruit Nazis as agents

without also systematically recruiting war criminals. Those things went together.

The Americans search all over Germany

for the former SS intelligence officer, Eugen Steimle.

He is hiding in his home region, the Black Forest.

The noose gets tighter and tighter.

In autumn 1945, he can see only one way out.

He turns himself in and is interrogated.

He knows he has one last chance.

To tell all.

A defector who has something to hide,

for example, acts of murder,

is open to blackmail,

and is therefore a complaint tool in the hands of his new handlers.

Steimle collaborates.

His statements and the documents from the briefcase

help the Americans uncover the German spy network in Spain.

This means knowing about dozens of Nazis

who do not want to accept the collapse of the Third Reich,

who are already working on their next delusional plan

of a Fourth Reich.

The goal is worldwide fascism.

From now on, the Americans can observe their activities

and enlist the agents in Spain to work for them.

After the interrogation, Steimle is sentenced to death by hanging

but is then surprisingly pardoned.

Did the US intelligence services enlist him as a spy and influence the verdict?

It cannot be proved.

Important files are missing,

above all from the US interrogation center in Oberursel.

Nazis are made into agents.

US intelligence services want to enlist more than just spies.

They also want to get their hands on Nazi treasure.

Up until the end of the war,

the Allies maintained the myth of the Alpine Fortress,

the supposed refuge for the Nazis.

Treasure hunters continue to visit the area.

They are on the trail of the missing Nazi gold.

But can any of this treasure still be found?

Facing defeat towards the end of the war,

German industry made arrangements for keeping its capital safe.

This was very dangerous to have such a discussion.

Nevertheless, the alternative of losing everything

after Hitler's death was even more dangerous.

So, they drew up plans.

Some of these documents and plans still exist.

They had to attempt to reconstitute Germany after Hitler left.

These activities did not stay hidden from the Allied intelligence services.

They launched a gigantic worldwide surveillance operation.

It was code named Safehaven.

Safehaven was the name of a US government program.

The aim was to track down the assets that the Nazis had seized in Europe,

assets that the Nazis tried to distribute throughout the world for use after 1945.

The Americans also knew that such plans were even hatched in the Reich Chancellery

on the orders of Reichsminister Bormann.

It didn't escape them

that a network of foreign firms was set up to safely invest the funds.

One preferred location for the Nazis was Monaco.

There were numerous shell companies that had millions at their disposal.

One of these firms was officially a broadcasting company.

Sitting on the board was no stranger,

Kurt Georg Kiesinger.

LAWYER KURT GEORG KIESINGER (FOREIGN OFFICE)

He became Chancellor of West Germany.

Having worked for the Foreign and Propaganda Ministry in the Third Reich

did not harm his career.

Allied agents gave detailed reports about the transfer of the funds.

Sometimes they could even sneak people into meetings.

Leading this spy operation was Allen Dulles,

a US agent in Switzerland and later the head of the CIA.

He knew how to use his knowledge of the financial machinations of the Nazis

for his career in Washington.

After the Reichsbank in Berlin is destroyed

in a bombing raid in March 1945 shortly before the end of the war,

gold and currency are lying in the open.

Now the plans are put into actions and the evacuation begins,

quickly and carefully.

Three hundred and sixty tonnes of gold, 300 tonnes of silver,

and banknotes are loaded up.

Everything is meticulously recorded and checked.

At the last moment, the Nazi treasure is taken away.

Documents about the Reichsbank gold lie undiscovered

in the Bundesbank for over 60 years.

Karl Bernd Esser eventually finds them there.

All the gold from these Reichsbank branches

was moved to a central location in Merkers,

or to certain depots in Bavaria.

Now the time has come for the Americans.

Thanks to Operation Safehaven,

they know exactly where the gold is stored in the mountains.

They reach the salt mine in the Soviet occupied zone of Thuringia,

even before the Soviets do.

They simply declare the Reichsbank gold to be stolen Nazi gold.

The Americans also retrieve other treasure stored in the tunnel,

Italian state treasure and gold from the National Bank of Bohemia and Moravia.

Were the hiding places in the Alps also cleared out long ago?

They certainly can't find any gold in Bavaria.

There is a settlement document

stating what gold the Reichsbank had hidden in various depots.

These depots were all found, mainly by the Americans.

They even crossed over into the Soviet zone,

and very quickly cleared the main depot in Merkers which was in the eastern zone.

Karl Bernd Esser regards this as theft.

Their share of the Marshall Plan,

of American loans for the reconstruction of Europe,

had been paid twice by the Germans, first with the Reichsbank gold,

then again with repayments in Deutsche Marks.

The Marshall Plan was a successful method invented by the Americans

to surreptitiously trick their friends.

I take 1,000 euros from you and you don't notice,

then I give you a 1,000-euro loan on which you pay interest.

Meanwhile, you're thinking, "Oh, how nice of you."

But, in reality, I stole the 1,000 euros from you. Only, you didn't notice.

US intelligence also uses its knowledge and treasure beyond Germany.

It recruits fascists in Italy during the Cold War.

They are to fight communism on behalf of the Americans.

Since the 1960s, Italy is shaken by a series of bomb attacks.

Hundreds of people die.

These acts are first blamed on leftists,

but it has been shown that they were committed by the far right.

Stefano Delle Chiaie bcame the leader of the new right.

He is accused of many terrorist attacks but has never been convicted.

Our political position was very simple and quite clear.

It was based on the historical experience

that we greatly respected, which was that of fascism.

We tried to make the basic values of fascism the reality

that dictated our environment.

In 1970, the fascists and their backers want to stage a coup in Italy

and eliminate the left-wing parties.

We know that the CIA was informed of this plan.

On December 7, Delle Chiaie's rebels,

the ultra-right Avanguardia Nazionale, and parts of the military make their move.

The state broadcast station is their first target

and government buildings.

Stefano Delle Chiaie's rebels believe they are acting in their own interests.

But the coup attempt is controlled from elsewhere,

even if Delle Chiaie proudly takes responsibility to this day.

I was responsible morally and politically for the coup.

Even if I wasn't in Italy at the time.

The commander had prepared a perfect plan.

Basically, he envisaged initiating a chain of command from the Ministry of Defense.

All our plans were ready and secured.

All military units would have been deployed,

and they would have occupied all strategic points in the country.

The fight against the left has a long history in Italy.

US intelligence services have had a hand in this from the beginning.

Their influence begins with the invasion of Sicily.

Allied soldiers overpower the Axis powers.

But some Italian military units refuse to surrender

and continue fighting on the German side until 1945.

One unit is particularly feared,

the Decima Flottiglia MAS,

the world's first combat frogman unit.

Their daring operations are feared and admired by the Allies.

The unit's commander is Valerio Borghese, the Black Prince.

Prince Borghese's Decima MAS

was probably the best trained

and most motivated unit of the entire fascist republic.

It takes another two years

before World War II is won in Italy.

When the Americans finally march into Rome,

they are welcomed as liberators.

This includes the Pope.

He shares the fear of the victors that there may be a shift to the left in Italy…

because the communists are gaining in strength.

The goal of the Americans was to keep the communists out of power

and also to cut off any communist support from abroad.

CIA agent James Jesus Angleton prepares a coup

in case the communists win the election.

Angleton knew many people and had the best connections in Italy.

He spoke Italian and was close to the Vatican,

which had the most efficient intelligence service in the world,

and maybe still does.

Angleton and Borghese became good friends.

Borghese came from the fascist movement and founded the Fronte Nazionale

in order to unite the various right-wing movements.

All of that was intended to prevent a shift to the left in Italy,

because the left was gaining in strength in Italy.

In order to fight against the Communist Party,

the CIA recruited Borghese.

The communists are his deadly enemies.

At the end of the war, they almost killed him.

Angleton succeeded in convincing the US government

that the 1948 elections would lead to a communist government in Italy.

Therefore, the Americans should raise millions of dollars

to influence the elections and above all to fight the left-wing candidates

in these elections.

REICHSBANK

Now Operation Safehaven is paying off.

The Americans use the confiscated Nazi loot.

Angleton uses it to finance his operations against the Italian communists.

These assets were never returned to Nazi victims or their relatives.

200 000 RM NO LIABILITY ASSUMED, COUNT ON RECEIPT

The money frequently belonged to Europe's Jews.

It was stolen by the Nazis.

It stemmed from the so-called Exchange Stabilization Fund,

part of the economic blockade of Nazi Germany.

These were capital assets confiscated from the Nazis.

Angleton also establishes a partisan army.

This is rare original footage of them training.

Among the partisans are many battle-hardened fascists

from Borghese's combat frogman unit.

The unit is named Gladio and it is under the sole control of the CIA.

In the event that Italy democratically voted for socialism,

these paid, ideologically trained and battle-ready elements

would have taken action to overthrow that democratically elected government.

But Gladio is not deployed.

The communists lose the first election after the war.

Emotions run high.

The Soviets have to accept that Italy is now in the US sphere of influence.

For all those who want a third way, the term "Yalta" indicates an obstacle.

Yalta refers to the agreement that was signed by the victorious powers,

more precisely Russia, Great Britain, and the USA,

who divided the world between them

into future zones of influence, and above all Europe.

This agreement remained until the collapse of the Soviet Union

and the fall of the Berlin Wall.

In Italy, Yalta means being under the influence of the US.

It is clear that if their political and strategic interests are at stake,

the Americans will take drastic action.

They will not allow a third power to come between the two blocs.

In the post-Yalta world,

in which borders between the blocs were strictly enforced,

the dominant hegemonic powers suppressed all uprisings.

This applies to Hungary in 1956, June 17, 1953 in Berlin,

and for all other revolts.

And terrorism in Italy and Germany ultimately served only one purpose,

to stabilize the political status quo.

This includes the murder of the Italian Prime Minister, Aldo Moro, in 1978.

He was kidnapped and shot by the Red Brigades.

Numerous agents and intelligence services were caught up in the affair.

Many Italians believe that Moro was killed because he wanted to pursue a third way

that countervailed Yalta.

Other powers are also involved in the attempted coup in 1970.

Borghese and Delle Chiaie are just pawns.

We know of a telephone call to Borghese

between one and two o'clock in the morning.

That's how the coup was stopped.

We also know that Borghese had a call with a high-ranking politician.

In his diary, Borghese claims

that he was called by Ettore Bernabei, a close confidant of Andreotti,

who was acting on his behalf.

And at the time, Andreotti was the puppet of the Americans.

High-ranking Italian figures are actually pulling the strings.

Politician Giulio Andreotti was later Prime Minister seven times.

Licio Gelli was master of the influential Propaganda Due Masonic lodge.

Gelli had been an American agent since the war.

Then they spread all kinds of lies.

We're talking about Gelli now who called off the coup.

We're talking about Andreotti

who backed him and withheld important facts.

For example, his friend was the prosecutor at the Borghese coup trial,

so Andreotti's stooge,

he had asked that my comrades and I were given 28 years in prison.

So you have to be wary of friends like these.

US supremacy was also clearly demonstrated militarily during the attempted coup.

The US Sixth Fleet was apparently put on a state of alert shortly beforehand.

Gelli and Andreotti introduced themselves to the Americans as influential figures

who were capable of mobilizing forces and calling them off.

This was a demonstration of power meant to impress the CIA.

Fascists like Borghese and Delle Chiaie have to go into hiding.

South America represent a suitable option.

There, they form alliances with dictators and make a bid for power.

Certainly, we wanted to see our worldview, our convictions become a reality there.

Our struggle for fascism fell on fertile ground in Latin America.

Likewise, many parties in Latin America had fascist and National Socialist roots.

However, Chile goes against the fascist philosophy.

In 1971, the country elects the socialist Salvador Allende.

Allende has enthusiastic supporters.

His Marxist politics have many enemies, including in the USA.

This was perceived by the United States as a tremendous threat.

If a peaceful revolution were to take hold,

it would greatly weaken the United States' ideological hold on South America.

On the order of US Secretary of State Kissinger,

the CIA becomes active in Chile.

This staunch anti-communist does not want to rely

on Allende losing the next election.

General Pinochet seizes power in a coup in September 1973.

Italian fascists support him.

The Americans do not stop them.

Both sides have a common goal.

They want to eradicate communism.

We were already in contact with our Chilean comrades

before the coup in Chile.

I was with Commander Borghese in Santiago in 1974.

We met President Pinochet,

and began to work closely with him.

When we arrived in Chile,

we were immediately welcomed by President Pinochet.

In 1975, the fascists gather

for the funeral of a like-minded friend in Madrid.

The dictator Francisco Franco is dead.

Here, cooperation between the Italian fascists

and the Chilean intelligence service DINA is sealed.

Future terrorist plans are hatched.

The ringleader is well-known, Stefano Delle Chiaie.

It is the first meeting between the collaborators.

Others follow.

Pinochet meets with these terrorists who had just pulled off the assassination.

The head of Chilean intelligence is there, and it is a right-wing lovefest.

At this meeting, Stefano Delle Chiaie is apparently given permission

to set up headquarters in Chile.

He begins to collaborate with the Chilean intelligence service, DINA.

A series of assassinations follows,

including Allende's Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier in Washington.

The USA cannot tolerate terrorism on its own soil.

They put Pinochet in his place.

They talk about the weakness of the United States

and its ability to defeat the communist menace,

and the desire of the military in Latin America to take the leadership.

They planned to take leadership to defeat the communist movement worldwide.

The scope of this is mind-blowing.

They actually referred to it as World War III.

Pinochet's junta prepares for this war.

It included their desire to have nuclear weapons.

It included the production of biological weapons.

Prisoners in Chile were even killed in experiments with them

and during the production of poison gas,

sarin and mustard gas.

The research laboratory used for the inhumane experiments

is the Colonia Dignidad.

Plans are conspired in this strange place.

After the military coup in 1973, Colonia Dignidad became a torture camp,

a training camp for the DINA intelligence service,

including a torture school.

It became a weapons smuggling center,

and a center for alternative weapons production

and an external communications center for the DINA intelligence service.

This part of Colonia Dignidad is sealed off with a death strip.

The underground torture chambers are well hidden.

From outside, it is meant to look like a typical farm.

Anyone could be deceived by the scenery.

I was impressed by this place

because to a certain extent,

I am obviously a dreamer

and have always dreamed of building a center like this

for my comrades.

So that now and again they would have the chance

to get away from the fighting and relax.

I had something like this in mind.

But Colonia Dignidad isn't just a relaxation center for old Nazis.

Biological and chemical weapons are produced and tested on prisoners here.

The Chilean intelligence services need poison that can kill without detection.

There is a short list of people that were confirmed

to have been murdered using sarin, using gas.

A German doctor is also working

at Colonia Dignidad with lethal substances.

The doctor at Colonia Dignidad, Hartmut Hopp,

who fled from Chilean justice to Krefeld,

had a devil's workshop in this settlement.

FRIEDRICH PAUL HELLER AUTHOR OF PINOCHET

It consisted of about 400 toxins.

Including toxins that are inhaled,

toxins that kill as a result of physical contact,

and toxins that kill if they are taken with food.

It was a savage arsenal

and no one knows exactly who fell victim to these poisonings.

The Nazis of the Cold War don't just support Pinochet.

They also support other dictators in South America.

The CIA covers up their crimes.

In 1980, the military in Bolivia seizes power in a coup,

which is referred to as the Cocaine Coup.

Now the mafia under General García Meza governs the Andean state.

Pulling the strings is the German, Nazi criminal Klaus Barbie.

His fascist companion is very impressed.

I met him in Bolivia.

He had great character,

highly intelligent with immense skills.

A man of honor.

Klaus Barbie was known as the Butcher of Lyon.

He took brutal and sadistic action against the Resistance fighters

who were fighting German occupation in World War II.

After the war, Barbie was recruited by the American intelligence services.

There were different ways that senior SS officers survived the war,

but they do share a common pattern,

something that I call "intelligence entrepreneurism."

They take whatever assets they can lay their hands on

and attempt to sell these or to encourage the intelligence services

to invest in them.

Klaus Barbie was a valuable agent for the Americans.

He bought his freedom with his knowledge of communists in the Resistance.

The Americans did everything they could

to stop the Resistance people from coming to power after the war.

And Barbie was important to them

because he had information on the collaboration network

that worked with the Germans

in the occupied zone and in Vichy France as well.

He could hand that over to the Americans, so it was extremely valuable.

He understood very well

how susceptible the entire French political scene was to blackmail.

The Americans hide Barbie and other war criminals first in Germany,

then in South America.

They understood the bloody politics

of certain types of intelligence.

They understood colonial war.

Their mentality was well-suited for colonial war…

because they considered themselves to be from the outset superior.

Thus, they were willing to take the lives of a great many people

that they considered to be inferior for racial or ethnic reasons.

Barbie ends up as an intelligence services adviser in South America.

At this point, Operation Condor begins in the Andean states.

The American Operation Condor was an alliance

between several intelligence services and states

that were run by fascist or extreme right-wing parties

with a well-documented history of disappearances,

abuse, murder of prisoners, and so forth.

And those regimes

found Klaus Barbie to be a very compatible agent for their operations.

During the operation,

a total of 50,000 people is murdered in the states of the alliance.

Again the CIA covers up events and protects those involved.

I call it the "red light, green light phenomenon."

The United States was publicly defending human rights.

But privately they were telling these regimes that it was okay.

Until they defeated the left, they should go ahead and do it.

The driving force behind this policy is Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

He faces increasing criticism.

Later, Kissinger is asked to testify in court in France and Chile

about human rights abuses.

In 2007, Uruguay even demanded his extradition.

It became clear that he was covering for Operation Condor,

the crimes of the death squads.

Again a known Nazi is among them.

Stefano Delle Chiaie leads a mercenary force in Bolivia.

They were called the Grooms of Death,

and supported the cocaine mafia that staged the coup in Bolivia

and also benefited from it afterwards.

And they went through many countries in Latin America,

and instigated counter-revolutions, murdered and tortured people,

and made a fortune in the process.

The Grooms of Death are financed by an industry

that is entangled with intelligence services worldwide,

the cocaine trade.

The drugs trade is an ideal source of money for agents.

It is all top secret and those involved can be blackmailed.

The war on drugs is basically an operation to deceive the public.

The real drugs trade, which is successful of course, favors those people

given privileged status by an intelligence service that says,

"These are our men. You cannot stop what they're doing."

Basically, they can grow any plants they want

without any risk whatsoever

and ultimately they can sell them for incredible prices

in America or Europe or wherever.

So they have an unbelievable profit margin.

And from this profit margin,

the intelligence services siphon off whatever they require

and it is used to fund all kinds of operations.

Klaus Barbie perfects the cocaine trade in Bolivia.

And much more.

Barbie systematized repression in South America.

He did away with the simple beatings, brutality,

and introduced systematic torture and an organized prison system.

In the end, it proved to be his undoing

because people became aware of him and he was extradited.

In May 1987 in Lyon, Klaus Barbie is sentenced to life in prison,

four years after his extradition.

Even in the courtroom, he mocks his victims.

He dies in prison in 1997.

Only a few Nazis are sentenced.

Leading politicians in West Germany trust Paul Dickopf,

long-standing President of the Federal Criminal Police Office,

right up to his death.

The SS man and Nazi spy Dickopf was recruited by the Americans

shortly before the end of the war.

Of course, he realized that it was all over for Germany.

He saw which way the wind was blowing,

and then said, "I'm joining the other side right now."

He is helped by his friend François Genoud, also a Nazi agent.

They know each other from Switzerland, where they both lived.

Genoud was a major banker.

At the same time, he was a big supporter of the Nazis and Hitler.

And presumably he was the one

who played a major role in rescuing Nazi and SS wealth

after everything changed in 1945.

Genoud published Goebbels' diaries and made a lot of money.

He uses it to finance the defense of Adolf Eichmann

and Klaus Barbie.

He is also a friend and financial backer of the terrorist Carlos the Jackal,

and of the Palestinian terrorist and KGB agent, Wadie Haddad.

He is responsible for many brutal attacks.

But his connections do not harm Dickopf's career.

On the contrary, the CIA and its director, Dulles, help him to the top.

First of all, this connection to the American intelligence services

was a major factor that helped him find a position.

In spite of his association with the SS,

he found work first in West Germany's Ministry of the Interior,

then as a section chief in the Federal Criminal Police Office.

And I think that this promotion was also…

This is my interpretation.

There was also a purpose that benefited the CIA

because they wanted him to get into a position like this.

Dickopf gave the CIA information about German politics,

in particular about Willy Brandt.

The President of the Federal Criminal Police Office

had access to sensitive information about Brandt's Ostpolitik.

These were the internal affairs

of a government whose détente policy was viewed with mistrust in the USA.

How much did Paul Dickopf really know?

He also participated in discussions within the ministry

and at the political level.

What were the secrets he gave away

that substantially undermined the sovereignty of West Germany?

This question cannot be answered.

Dickopf was a window into the highest levels of the German government,

its security policy and its intelligence service.

This was high-level information

from the security apparatus of a different country.

In the CIA files, Dickopf is described as a "unilateral agent,"

who works exclusively for one side.

Was Dickopf a plain and simple traitor?

I have a problem with this word "traitor"

because for Dickopf, this was normal everyday life.

He had a duty to one side and he had a duty to the other.

He certainly showed gratitude to the Americans.

How much damage did Dickopf cause Germany?

In 1972, his friend Genoud helps with the hijacking of a Lufthansa jet.

It puts 15 million marks of ransom money into Palestinian coffers,

money that is used for further terrorist operations.

Genoud also financed the attack on the Israeli Olympic team

in Munich in 1972.

The jubilant games were meant to establish Germany's global reputation.

Instead, they were a major disaster for West Germany.

Eleven Israeli athletes die before the eyes of the world.

Genoud had close connections with Middle East terrorist circles

that also worked with Mossad.

So that is a really strange structure.

As the head of Interpol, Dickopf had to fight the terrorists

that his friend Genoud financed.

During his time in office, more attacks were mounted and planes were hijacked.

Dickopf insisted that Interpol was powerless.

They know that we are constrained by Article 3 of our statutes,

which prohibits out organization from direct intervention.

But that very fact should encourage countries

to share information to a far greater extent.

But that doesn't necessarily mean, Interpol can't intervene,

that countries can't take bilateral action?

Bilateral and multilateral.

They can do whatever they want, just not go through Interpol.

At the same time, in one year, 15 planes were hijacked.

Later, I think it was even 30 or more planes hijacked per year.

It was a sort of technique.

At the same time, western countries decided

that investigating terrorist crimes wasn't part of Interpol's job.

This is outrageous.

So here we have a man, Dickopf, who is connected to Genoud,

a man he frequently meets.

Genoud financed the people who hijacked the planes.

And meanwhile, Interpol claims, "This is not our job."

Did the CIA know about Dickopf's connections to Genoud?

Documents prove that it did.

Dickopf himself informed the CIA

that he had known him since World War II.

However, there is nothing in the files released by Washington

about what the CIA learned from Dickopf and other Nazis.

The CIA had a conscious and deliberate campaign

that was controlled by the legal department

to obstruct the release of these records as much as possible.

Particularly to obstruct those records with information about the relationship

between informants and agents,

which was the exact point of this.

Christopher Simpson was on the commission

that negotiated with the CIA about the release of the Nazi files.

His experience is sobering.

One of the most important categories that fits this description

is what's called "foreign government information."

This is information they've obtained legally or illegally

from another state about that government's affairs.

This information is in a number of files.

You'll see this in the Dickopf file, in the Klaus Barbie file.

Few people know this.

Nevertheless, there continue to be withheld records in those files.

This restrictive policy prevents historians and journalists

from investigating important CIA espionage operations.

The CIA is a global service

with an enormous budget and incredible capabilities,

because it also utilizes the drug trade as a means of finance,

and exploits many different countries around the world.

It plays a role in all European countries,

exerting influence on politics, on our concept of the enemy,

exerting influence on public opinion,

psychological warfare.

All of that plays a part.

If I have people at my disposal,

I can control a democracy, as it were.

Just as Italian democracy was controlled,

perhaps this influence was also exerted on certain political processes here.

An intelligence service isn't a singing club.

Many intelligence operations,

which involved war criminals and fascists as collaborators,

have remained beyond public scrutiny to this day.

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