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Do you need the VR? 5 00:00:18,118 --> 00:00:20,318 GROUP: Surprise! 6 00:00:20,353 --> 00:00:21,553 NARRATOR: Well in the future 7 00:00:21,588 --> 00:00:23,221 radical life extension technology 8 00:00:23,256 --> 00:00:25,157 will make our current life span 9 00:00:25,192 --> 00:00:27,325 seem like a mere blink of an eye. 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,694 OSCAR: Happy birthday. 11 00:00:29,729 --> 00:00:32,164 NARRATOR: We'll stay healthy and active for centuries, 12 00:00:32,199 --> 00:00:34,032 putting plastic surgeons out of a job. 13 00:00:34,067 --> 00:00:35,734 [clinks glass] 14 00:00:35,769 --> 00:00:40,338 OSCAR: So, it's not every day your wife turns 300. 15 00:00:40,373 --> 00:00:46,078 So, to Eva, who is as beautiful as the day I met her. 16 00:00:46,113 --> 00:00:47,612 NARRATOR: Adding centuries to your life 17 00:00:47,647 --> 00:00:50,615 will radically redefine how we view relationships, 18 00:00:50,650 --> 00:00:56,721 work, childbirth, and the fabric of society itself. 19 00:00:56,756 --> 00:00:59,591 And those who choose immortality will have to rethink 20 00:00:59,626 --> 00:01:04,463 the very idea of what it means to be alive at all. 21 00:01:04,498 --> 00:01:12,370 ♪ ♪ 22 00:01:12,405 --> 00:01:15,307 It's the deep future. 23 00:01:15,342 --> 00:01:17,642 Your body? Gone. 24 00:01:17,677 --> 00:01:21,480 You're all computer, all the time. 25 00:01:21,515 --> 00:01:23,748 Your brain is way more powerful 26 00:01:23,783 --> 00:01:27,385 than even a billion supercomputers. 27 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:32,557 Jobs, food, language, water, even traditional thought, 28 00:01:32,592 --> 00:01:35,093 all of humanity's building blocks? 29 00:01:35,128 --> 00:01:37,062 All that's done. 30 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:39,998 And you are immortal. 31 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:41,733 Squirming in your chair yet? 32 00:01:41,768 --> 00:01:42,934 You should be. 33 00:01:42,969 --> 00:01:45,070 This isn't science fiction. 34 00:01:45,105 --> 00:01:48,640 Today's visionary thinkers say it's a strong probability 35 00:01:48,675 --> 00:01:52,010 that this is what your world is going to look like. 36 00:01:52,045 --> 00:01:55,313 Tonight, they'll guide you toward that spectacular future, 37 00:01:55,348 --> 00:01:58,083 and we'll see how one family navigates it, 38 00:01:58,118 --> 00:02:00,318 one invention at a time. 39 00:02:00,353 --> 00:02:03,355 This is the story of your future. 40 00:02:03,390 --> 00:02:07,025 This is the road to Year Million. 41 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:15,000 Just so we're clear, 42 00:02:15,035 --> 00:02:18,136 the Year Million is not literally the year one million. 43 00:02:18,171 --> 00:02:21,640 It's another way of saying the far, far future. 44 00:02:21,675 --> 00:02:22,941 CHUCK NICE: The Year Million, 45 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:25,677 it's really not one million years. 46 00:02:25,712 --> 00:02:28,713 It is a concept of an age. 47 00:02:28,748 --> 00:02:30,982 So think about this: the Earth is about, what? 48 00:02:31,017 --> 00:02:34,653 4.5 billion years old. 49 00:02:34,688 --> 00:02:40,325 So the Year Million is a literal... 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,494 NARRATOR: That's right. A blink of an eye. 51 00:02:42,529 --> 00:02:45,130 And human life has been around for less than that. 52 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:47,399 But it hasn't stopped us from obsessing 53 00:02:47,434 --> 00:02:49,134 about how we can extend it, 54 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:52,637 since, well, since the beginning of time. 55 00:02:52,672 --> 00:02:55,006 BRIAN GREENE: The nature of human mortality 56 00:02:55,041 --> 00:03:00,145 is one of the most poignant parts of existence. 57 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:06,151 We're born, and we know we're going to die. 58 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:08,520 Great thinkers, from Einstein to Freud, 59 00:03:08,555 --> 00:03:12,057 have long since come to the conclusion 60 00:03:12,092 --> 00:03:15,093 that the fact that we are born with the knowledge 61 00:03:15,128 --> 00:03:21,933 that we are going to die is what shapes how we live. 62 00:03:21,968 --> 00:03:25,437 If that changes, then I think we'd fundamentally change 63 00:03:25,472 --> 00:03:29,040 what it means to be human. 64 00:03:29,075 --> 00:03:30,742 NARRATOR: Thank you, Brian. 65 00:03:30,777 --> 00:03:32,410 Folks, let's be clear, 66 00:03:32,445 --> 00:03:35,513 it's no longer a question of if, but rather when, 67 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:40,018 we as a species will have the choice to become immortal. 68 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:41,620 So for those of you who've played your part 69 00:03:41,655 --> 00:03:44,256 in the billion-dollar spend on anti-aging creams, 70 00:03:44,291 --> 00:03:46,057 diets and gym memberships, 71 00:03:46,092 --> 00:03:49,427 hoping you can turn back the clock and extend your lives, 72 00:03:49,462 --> 00:03:52,197 get excited, because the real revolution 73 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:55,533 in radical life extension has already begun. 74 00:03:55,568 --> 00:03:58,370 And it's way beyond just skin-deep solutions. 75 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:00,905 Let me show you what I'm talking about. 76 00:04:00,940 --> 00:04:05,877 ♪ ♪ 77 00:04:05,912 --> 00:04:07,412 The first stage towards immortality 78 00:04:07,447 --> 00:04:10,982 lies in the advancement of nanotechnology. 79 00:04:11,017 --> 00:04:12,217 In the near future, 80 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:14,653 we'll send tiny microscopic robots 81 00:04:14,688 --> 00:04:16,421 coursing through our bloodstreams, 82 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:18,623 fixing mutations in our cells, 83 00:04:18,658 --> 00:04:22,994 so that they never get old or fall apart. 84 00:04:23,029 --> 00:04:25,997 Next, we'll not only re-engineer our DNA 85 00:04:26,032 --> 00:04:29,401 to resist all life-threatening diseases and viruses, 86 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:32,504 we'll be able to create super-intelligent children, 87 00:04:32,539 --> 00:04:36,441 designed to our exact specifications. 88 00:04:36,476 --> 00:04:39,177 Now it's time to get weird. 89 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:42,314 If creating the ultimate sustainable biological body 90 00:04:42,349 --> 00:04:43,982 isn't enough, 91 00:04:44,017 --> 00:04:47,652 there may be a time when our descendants will choose 92 00:04:47,687 --> 00:04:52,791 to discard their physical bodies, 93 00:04:52,826 --> 00:04:57,495 and upload themselves into a digital world. 94 00:04:57,530 --> 00:04:59,831 And for those of you who might not live long enough 95 00:04:59,866 --> 00:05:02,100 to see the beginnings of these breakthroughs, 96 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:03,968 you can make a long-shot bet on the future 97 00:05:04,003 --> 00:05:08,173 in the form of cryonic preservation. 98 00:05:08,208 --> 00:05:11,276 Freezing yourselves until the day we wake up to a world 99 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:16,147 where technology has caught up with our dream for eternal life. 100 00:05:16,182 --> 00:05:19,317 Our journey to immortality will transform the way we live, 101 00:05:19,352 --> 00:05:23,855 the relationships we have, and the very meaning of life itself. 102 00:05:30,063 --> 00:05:33,531 But let's rewind to a more recent future. 103 00:05:33,566 --> 00:05:34,999 Remember that birthday party? 104 00:05:35,034 --> 00:05:37,535 It's just getting started. 105 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:40,038 But what's the perfect gift for the person you love, 106 00:05:40,073 --> 00:05:43,074 when she turns 300? 107 00:05:43,109 --> 00:05:46,578 Something more precious than diamonds or gold. 108 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:52,217 EVA: You know what I want for my birthday, don't you? 109 00:05:52,252 --> 00:05:55,587 OSCAR: What's that? 110 00:05:55,622 --> 00:06:01,426 EVA: The only thing that I want 111 00:06:01,461 --> 00:06:02,927 is more time with you. 112 00:06:02,962 --> 00:06:04,829 NARRATOR: Time, it's what everyone wants 113 00:06:04,864 --> 00:06:06,431 but never has enough of. 114 00:06:06,466 --> 00:06:08,833 So how do these two lovebirds get a marriage 115 00:06:08,868 --> 00:06:12,003 that lasts 200 years, let alone survive it? 116 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:15,907 The answer might be found in the most unsuspecting of places. 117 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:23,782 Yes, whales. 118 00:06:28,421 --> 00:06:30,555 MICHIO KAKU: The bowhead whale lives, 119 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:34,125 we think, on the order of 200 years. 120 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,028 NARRATOR: In 2007, a giant bowhead whale 121 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:39,764 was caught off the coast of Alaska 122 00:06:39,799 --> 00:06:42,734 with a harpoon point embedded in its neck. 123 00:06:42,769 --> 00:06:46,971 That harpoon was dated back to approximately 1880, 124 00:06:47,006 --> 00:06:51,009 making that whale around 130 years old. 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,915 The Greenland shark can live up to 400 years. 126 00:06:56,950 --> 00:07:00,652 What are they doing that we're not? 127 00:07:00,687 --> 00:07:03,054 KAKU: Organisms age at different rates. 128 00:07:03,089 --> 00:07:07,125 Some so long that we don't even know what their life span is. 129 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,327 Like crocodiles and alligators. 130 00:07:09,362 --> 00:07:10,995 I've visited many crocodile farms, 131 00:07:11,030 --> 00:07:13,398 and I've talked to the trainers there, 132 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:14,966 and they all say the same thing, 133 00:07:15,001 --> 00:07:18,269 that, yeah, crocodiles that are older than them, 134 00:07:18,304 --> 00:07:23,642 they're just as vigorous and as energetic as youngsters. 135 00:07:27,514 --> 00:07:30,815 Aging is not necessarily a given 136 00:07:30,850 --> 00:07:34,652 for all organisms on the planet Earth. 137 00:07:34,687 --> 00:07:36,087 NARRATOR: We don't know exactly why some animals 138 00:07:36,122 --> 00:07:37,822 live longer than humans, 139 00:07:37,857 --> 00:07:41,159 but one theory is that our biological clock is determined 140 00:07:41,194 --> 00:07:44,429 by parts of our cells called telomeres. 141 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:47,131 As we get older, our telomeres fray, 142 00:07:47,166 --> 00:07:51,169 they stop dividing and decay, and that's what causes aging. 143 00:07:51,204 --> 00:07:53,671 So what if we could somehow stop the fraying, 144 00:07:53,706 --> 00:07:55,707 or reverse the cycle? 145 00:07:55,742 --> 00:07:57,475 PETER DIAMANDIS: In medical school, 146 00:07:57,510 --> 00:08:02,814 I became enamored with the idea that there are species on Earth 147 00:08:02,849 --> 00:08:06,784 that live for hundreds of years. 148 00:08:06,819 --> 00:08:10,154 If they can, why can't we? 149 00:08:10,189 --> 00:08:12,357 NARRATOR: Enter nanotechnology. 150 00:08:16,262 --> 00:08:17,996 Scientists are already hard at work 151 00:08:18,031 --> 00:08:22,667 developing microscopic medical devices known as nanobots. 152 00:08:22,702 --> 00:08:25,203 In the deep future, these tiny robots will be injected 153 00:08:25,238 --> 00:08:28,540 directly into our bloodstreams. 154 00:08:28,575 --> 00:08:31,976 And they'll be able to repair our cells from the inside. 155 00:08:32,011 --> 00:08:37,148 They'll be able to reverse the telomere cycle from fraying. 156 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:40,518 Nanobots will eventually be so effective at curing disease, 157 00:08:40,553 --> 00:08:42,554 and even genetic mutations, 158 00:08:42,589 --> 00:08:45,857 that we'll never get sick, and we'll never get old. 159 00:08:45,892 --> 00:08:48,760 EVA: Wow. 160 00:08:48,795 --> 00:08:50,161 DIAMANDIS: Imagine little robots 161 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:53,031 that are able to go into your cells, 162 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:57,835 look for problems, and actually correct them. 163 00:08:57,870 --> 00:09:00,772 THOMAS WEBSTER: We really believe that nanotechnology 164 00:09:00,807 --> 00:09:03,508 might be the future for treating a lot of our ailments 165 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:07,378 that we've been unable to treat using conventional therapies. 166 00:09:07,413 --> 00:09:10,882 DIAMANDIS: Those tools is something that is in our future. 167 00:09:10,917 --> 00:09:13,017 It's just a matter of when, not if. 168 00:09:13,052 --> 00:09:14,886 FARSAD: As it is right now, 169 00:09:14,921 --> 00:09:17,455 you can get your Botox and your butt lift 170 00:09:17,490 --> 00:09:19,090 and just look like Gisele 171 00:09:19,125 --> 00:09:20,792 even though you started out, 172 00:09:20,827 --> 00:09:26,030 you know, looking like a some sort of a frog. 173 00:09:26,065 --> 00:09:28,766 NARRATOR: Forget facelifts and knee replacements. 174 00:09:28,801 --> 00:09:32,737 In the far future, nanobots will be able to heal a gunshot wound, 175 00:09:32,772 --> 00:09:36,240 or treat the very first cell of a lethal infection. 176 00:09:36,275 --> 00:09:40,311 And even as we speak, scientists are using nanotechnology 177 00:09:40,346 --> 00:09:45,116 to help treat disease more effectively than ever before. 178 00:09:45,151 --> 00:09:47,819 Now, I know what you're thinking, but let's be clear-- 179 00:09:47,854 --> 00:09:51,789 when we say nanobots, we're not talking about little C-3POs. 180 00:09:51,824 --> 00:09:53,157 They'll be made of something organic, 181 00:09:53,192 --> 00:09:55,393 so the body won't reject them. 182 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:57,095 And a precursor to these future bots 183 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:58,963 is already being developed. 184 00:09:58,998 --> 00:10:02,166 It's a kind of messenger cell that delivers life-saving drugs 185 00:10:02,201 --> 00:10:04,335 directly to the cells that need it. 186 00:10:04,370 --> 00:10:05,970 The first step is just getting 187 00:10:06,005 --> 00:10:09,073 particles of medicine that small. 188 00:10:09,108 --> 00:10:13,911 ♪ ♪ 189 00:10:13,946 --> 00:10:15,947 WEBSTER: What we can see here is a reaction 190 00:10:15,982 --> 00:10:17,949 that we've created in the lab 191 00:10:17,984 --> 00:10:22,153 that can make nanoparticles of selenium. 192 00:10:22,188 --> 00:10:25,590 NARRATOR: In larger amounts, the mineral selenium is toxic. 193 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:28,860 But at the nano scale, selenium can treat cancer. 194 00:10:28,895 --> 00:10:31,596 Scientists inject these tiny amounts of selenium 195 00:10:31,631 --> 00:10:33,931 into special synthetic immune cells, 196 00:10:33,966 --> 00:10:35,600 that are capable of delivering it 197 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:38,837 to the precise place in the body that needs it. 198 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:45,009 WEBSTER: So if there's a mutation in a cell 199 00:10:45,044 --> 00:10:46,511 that might be cancerous, 200 00:10:46,546 --> 00:10:50,148 we deliver selenium to that cell to kill it. 201 00:10:50,183 --> 00:10:52,150 You can use this as a mechanism 202 00:10:52,185 --> 00:10:58,122 to selectively kill unwanted cells in your body. 203 00:10:58,157 --> 00:10:59,524 GEORGE CHURCH: There's no fundamental law of physics 204 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,826 that says that our bodies have to decay 205 00:11:01,861 --> 00:11:03,494 if we're constantly repairing them. 206 00:11:03,529 --> 00:11:04,796 DIAMANDIS: When you have nanobots 207 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:06,664 coursing through your blood, 208 00:11:06,699 --> 00:11:08,066 continuously repairing everything 209 00:11:08,101 --> 00:11:10,168 back to its original condition, 210 00:11:10,203 --> 00:11:13,171 ultimately, that's the end point of medicine. 211 00:11:13,206 --> 00:11:14,972 NARRATOR: The end point of medicine. 212 00:11:15,007 --> 00:11:16,841 That is huge. 213 00:11:16,876 --> 00:11:20,178 It'll be a transformative day in the history of humanity. 214 00:11:20,213 --> 00:11:21,913 BARATUNDE THURSTON: I see advertisements 215 00:11:21,948 --> 00:11:24,248 promising a glorious, extended future, 216 00:11:24,283 --> 00:11:26,517 10-year vacations being marketed, 217 00:11:26,552 --> 00:11:31,155 and new properties, and what to do with this extra time. 218 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:32,990 NARRATOR: But nanotech is just a Band-Aid. 219 00:11:33,025 --> 00:11:34,659 It's step one. 220 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:37,261 If we're going to crack the code to immortality, 221 00:11:37,296 --> 00:11:39,997 we're going to have to go deeper into our own code, 222 00:11:40,032 --> 00:11:41,599 our genetic code, 223 00:11:41,634 --> 00:11:44,902 and alter the very building blocks of human life. 224 00:11:44,937 --> 00:11:46,704 FARSAD: In the future, 225 00:11:46,739 --> 00:11:49,407 we're going to be able to get rid of a lot of pesky genes, 226 00:11:49,442 --> 00:11:53,111 like the genes that give you horrible diseases 227 00:11:53,146 --> 00:11:54,512 like Alzheimer's, 228 00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:57,215 but also the gene that makes you, 229 00:11:57,250 --> 00:11:58,616 like, be one of those people 230 00:11:58,651 --> 00:12:00,685 that give weak handshakes, you know? 231 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,720 That's a terrible gene. 232 00:12:02,755 --> 00:12:04,856 NARRATOR: That is a terrible gene! 233 00:12:04,891 --> 00:12:06,691 And if you had the option, you definitely wouldn't 234 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:09,694 want to pass it on to your children, right? 235 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:12,096 And that will one day be an option. 236 00:12:12,131 --> 00:12:14,132 The first stage will be treating unwanted genes, 237 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:16,033 once they've expressed themselves. 238 00:12:16,068 --> 00:12:20,071 Ultimately, we'll go into the DNA of embryos and select genes 239 00:12:20,106 --> 00:12:23,441 before a child is even born. 240 00:12:23,476 --> 00:12:24,976 DIAMANDIS: I have two boys, 241 00:12:25,011 --> 00:12:29,547 and as my wife and I think about their upbringing, 242 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:31,983 we want them to have the best education, the best clothing, 243 00:12:32,018 --> 00:12:34,585 the best healthcare, the best of everything. 244 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:36,053 But why wouldn't you want to start 245 00:12:36,088 --> 00:12:38,623 with the best genetic material? 246 00:12:38,658 --> 00:12:42,460 We're going to go from having a family by random chance, 247 00:12:42,495 --> 00:12:46,497 like, you have sex and randomly rearrange the genes, 248 00:12:46,532 --> 00:12:48,800 to a point where it's like, I would never, ever do that. 249 00:12:48,835 --> 00:12:50,601 I wouldn't leave that to randomness. 250 00:12:50,636 --> 00:12:52,303 That's, that's immoral to leave it to randomness. 251 00:12:52,338 --> 00:12:54,839 I'm going to select the best genes I can for my child, 252 00:12:54,874 --> 00:12:58,242 give him the best start from day one. 253 00:12:58,277 --> 00:13:00,111 NARRATOR: Say goodbye to evolution 254 00:13:00,146 --> 00:13:02,947 and say hello to genetic engineering. 255 00:13:02,982 --> 00:13:04,182 But is humanity able to cope 256 00:13:04,217 --> 00:13:06,751 with this kind of responsibility? 257 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,619 We'll be making stronger, faster, 258 00:13:08,654 --> 00:13:10,454 more intelligent versions of ourselves. 259 00:13:10,489 --> 00:13:12,023 It may sound awesome, 260 00:13:12,058 --> 00:13:15,026 but playing God has rarely gone well in the past. 261 00:13:15,061 --> 00:13:16,494 If we're not careful, 262 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:19,831 in the process of making the ideal human being, 263 00:13:19,866 --> 00:13:22,033 we may just destroy our own humanity forever. 264 00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:27,872 NARRATOR: Welcome back to the future, 265 00:13:27,907 --> 00:13:30,608 where nanotechnology has brought us one step further 266 00:13:30,643 --> 00:13:32,844 in the quest for immortality. 267 00:13:32,879 --> 00:13:36,848 But nanotechnology is just the beginning. 268 00:13:36,883 --> 00:13:40,885 KAKU: The next era will be when we tinker with our genes. 269 00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:46,624 FARSAD: We're going to start building these perfect humans 270 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:49,794 that don't have any problems. 271 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:51,963 You know, kids aren't going to have acne, 272 00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:53,798 like, that's not going to be a thing. 273 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:55,833 There won't be an awkward phase. 274 00:13:55,868 --> 00:13:59,704 Like the genes that, like, make your mom call you 275 00:13:59,739 --> 00:14:01,205 too many times in a week, 276 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,740 they're going to get rid of that, 277 00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:06,677 so I think in some ways that's very exciting. 278 00:14:06,712 --> 00:14:08,412 NARRATOR: Scientists are already beginning to take 279 00:14:08,447 --> 00:14:11,983 their first steps towards changing our genetic code, 280 00:14:12,018 --> 00:14:13,885 with gene editing. 281 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,989 Using restriction enzymes, also known as molecular scissors, 282 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:21,425 it's possible to actually snip apart DNA, 283 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:23,394 and then either splice in 284 00:14:23,429 --> 00:14:26,364 or remove small parts of the strand. 285 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:27,398 BRYAN JOHNSON: Where we can actually 286 00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:29,200 take snippets of this code, 287 00:14:29,235 --> 00:14:32,570 and change it out, either in embryos or in adults. 288 00:14:32,605 --> 00:14:35,573 So the first one just happened in China. 289 00:14:35,608 --> 00:14:38,409 JON SPAIHTS: Things that were thought to be impediments 290 00:14:38,444 --> 00:14:40,845 are falling left and right. 291 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,547 Like the fact that you never grow new teeth, 292 00:14:43,582 --> 00:14:45,716 or the fact that we thought, until relatively recently, 293 00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:47,718 that you never grow new brain cells. 294 00:14:47,753 --> 00:14:50,254 We have now grown new teeth in people's jaws, 295 00:14:50,289 --> 00:14:52,023 starting from germ cells. 296 00:14:52,058 --> 00:14:54,592 We've discovered that neurogenesis in the brain 297 00:14:54,627 --> 00:14:58,195 is normal into adulthood, and can be stimulated. 298 00:14:58,230 --> 00:15:01,065 Those are things we're going to crack. 299 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:03,567 JOHNSON: We're born with an expiration date. 300 00:15:03,602 --> 00:15:08,306 Our genetic code is set to expire in a certain range. 301 00:15:08,341 --> 00:15:10,875 The question I have is, why? 302 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:13,778 Can we program that so it extends the expiration date? 303 00:15:13,813 --> 00:15:17,882 Can we program that so it eliminates the expiration date? 304 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,251 NARRATOR: Manipulating the very building blocks of life 305 00:15:20,286 --> 00:15:24,055 may be the key to unlocking the fountain of youth. 306 00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:27,758 KAKU: We will use science to begin the process of slowing, 307 00:15:27,793 --> 00:15:31,796 and perhaps even stopping, the aging process. 308 00:15:31,831 --> 00:15:33,831 Perhaps our children, our grandchildren, 309 00:15:33,866 --> 00:15:38,469 will hit the age of 30, and simply [snaps] stop. 310 00:15:38,504 --> 00:15:41,439 NICE: I'm vain. I am very vain, okay? 311 00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:44,275 So if I can look like I'm 30 for 100 years, guess what. 312 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:46,243 I'm going for that. 313 00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:47,578 NARRATOR: Who wouldn't? 314 00:15:47,613 --> 00:15:49,146 In the future, genetic engineering 315 00:15:49,181 --> 00:15:52,283 will let us notch many more years on our belt. 316 00:15:54,687 --> 00:15:56,754 But even now, some humans have been lucky enough 317 00:15:56,789 --> 00:15:58,522 to be born with genetic code 318 00:15:58,557 --> 00:16:02,193 that allows them to live extremely long lives. 319 00:16:02,228 --> 00:16:05,196 If your health is your most valuable possession, 320 00:16:05,231 --> 00:16:08,833 it's like winning the genetic Powerball jackpot. 321 00:16:08,868 --> 00:16:13,137 VALTER LONGO: Emma is the oldest person in the history of Italy. 322 00:16:58,884 --> 00:17:01,085 NARRATOR: Emma is a rare case. 323 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,724 She was born with longevity encoded in her DNA. 324 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:09,927 But even so, she would never have gotten this far 325 00:17:09,962 --> 00:17:12,530 without a really good and attentive doctor. 326 00:17:35,254 --> 00:17:37,121 NARRATOR: Sadly, Emma passed away 327 00:17:37,156 --> 00:17:39,423 just as we finished production. 328 00:17:39,458 --> 00:17:41,859 But imagine a future where genetic engineering 329 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:44,762 will treat the causes of aging itself. 330 00:17:44,797 --> 00:17:47,131 A 117-year-old like Emma 331 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:52,536 would be able to hear perfectly, walk, even dance the tango. 332 00:17:52,571 --> 00:17:54,605 DIAMANDIS: We're going to completely transform medicine. 333 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,607 It's going to become personalized. 334 00:17:56,642 --> 00:17:58,809 This is perfect for you, for your genomics, 335 00:17:58,844 --> 00:17:59,877 for your exact situation. 336 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:01,378 It's predictive. 337 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:03,280 Your genes tell us you're likely to come down 338 00:18:03,315 --> 00:18:06,650 with this cardiac syndrome or this cancer, 339 00:18:06,685 --> 00:18:10,788 and we're going to stop it from happening in the first place. 340 00:18:10,823 --> 00:18:12,289 NARRATOR: Remember those designer babies 341 00:18:12,324 --> 00:18:14,258 we'll all be making in the future? 342 00:18:14,293 --> 00:18:15,926 Well, at present, 343 00:18:15,961 --> 00:18:17,795 genetic engineering hasn't gone down that path. 344 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:22,466 But scientists have already made great strides in gene therapy 345 00:18:22,501 --> 00:18:24,268 to help cure disease. 346 00:18:24,303 --> 00:18:25,569 EVAN DAUGHARTHY: All human disease 347 00:18:25,604 --> 00:18:28,639 is a product of molecular defects. 348 00:18:28,674 --> 00:18:31,909 What we've invented is a way to look inside the cells, 349 00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:34,812 and we actually see what mutations are present. 350 00:18:34,847 --> 00:18:36,780 Once we understand the problem, 351 00:18:36,815 --> 00:18:38,649 then we can say, oh, here's a drug 352 00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:42,953 that will turn that gene back on or fix that DNA mutation. 353 00:18:42,988 --> 00:18:44,922 NARRATOR: Once we are able to pinpoint 354 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:47,625 and change issues at a genetic level, 355 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:50,161 humanity will be able to avoid terminal illness. 356 00:18:50,196 --> 00:18:54,965 And that will revolutionize our entire approach to how we live. 357 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,434 MATT MIRA: Yeah, I'd like the metabolism 358 00:18:57,469 --> 00:19:01,272 and desire to eat of a long distance runner. 359 00:19:01,307 --> 00:19:02,439 That's what I'd like. 360 00:19:02,474 --> 00:19:04,375 That's sad? That's what I want. 361 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:08,712 THURSTON: I can see people having the time to avoid regret, 362 00:19:08,747 --> 00:19:10,981 try to make good on mistakes that they've made. 363 00:19:11,016 --> 00:19:12,716 Think about the people you've lost. 364 00:19:12,751 --> 00:19:15,386 What would be different if they had lived an extra year, 365 00:19:15,421 --> 00:19:17,388 or five years, or a decade? 366 00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:19,123 What would you have told them? 367 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:22,526 So there is a very emotional and sentimental component 368 00:19:22,561 --> 00:19:24,262 beyond the science. 369 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:29,800 NARRATOR: But with genetic engineering, 370 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:32,236 we may just be opening a Pandora's box 371 00:19:32,271 --> 00:19:35,673 that we're not prepared to handle. 372 00:19:35,708 --> 00:19:38,809 In the process of making a better version of ourselves, 373 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:42,246 we also might be taking away some of the very characteristics 374 00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:45,216 that we value the most. 375 00:19:45,251 --> 00:19:46,350 SOULE: It would take away a lot of the things 376 00:19:46,385 --> 00:19:47,651 that I think are important 377 00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:49,386 about myself and my place in the world. 378 00:19:49,421 --> 00:19:52,223 NICE: The big moral question will be designer babies. 379 00:19:52,258 --> 00:19:54,325 The only people who are worried about designer babies 380 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,260 are the people who don't have babies, 381 00:19:56,295 --> 00:19:58,362 'cause I have three, and I wish to God 382 00:19:58,397 --> 00:20:01,232 I could have designed each and every one of them. 383 00:20:01,267 --> 00:20:06,437 AMY WEBB: Genetic engineering is such a loaded, politicized term. 384 00:20:06,472 --> 00:20:07,838 CHURCH: I think the biggest risk is 385 00:20:07,873 --> 00:20:11,408 there is a great tendency for uniformity, 386 00:20:11,443 --> 00:20:13,177 and I think that's very dangerous. 387 00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:14,778 DVORSKY: There is definite concern 388 00:20:14,813 --> 00:20:17,948 that if you start to eliminate conditions like autism, 389 00:20:17,983 --> 00:20:19,550 or even depression, 390 00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:22,586 what kind of diversity would we be losing as a whole? 391 00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:24,021 Some of the world's most famous artists 392 00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:25,889 and some of the world's greatest scientists 393 00:20:25,924 --> 00:20:28,225 have had some of these conditions. 394 00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:29,727 I think, as time passes, 395 00:20:29,762 --> 00:20:32,129 and as we harness our genetic technologies, 396 00:20:32,164 --> 00:20:34,031 we will and we should come to appreciate 397 00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:36,100 what's regarded as neuro-diversity, 398 00:20:36,135 --> 00:20:37,768 that there's more than one way of thinking, 399 00:20:37,803 --> 00:20:40,070 there's more than one way of looking at the world. 400 00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:42,473 NARRATOR: That will be our greatest challenge, 401 00:20:42,508 --> 00:20:45,209 not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. 402 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:48,612 As we eliminate traits we deem unhealthy or bad, 403 00:20:48,647 --> 00:20:51,081 we're going to have to make sure we don't eliminate 404 00:20:51,116 --> 00:20:54,318 the very things that make us individuals. 405 00:20:54,353 --> 00:20:56,920 It's going to be a real balancing act. 406 00:20:56,955 --> 00:20:59,890 DIAMANDIS: Our genomics is a way to really extend 407 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:03,460 the healthy human life span at least a couple of decades. 408 00:21:03,495 --> 00:21:07,564 And then it starts getting interesting. 409 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:09,300 NARRATOR: In the future, 410 00:21:09,335 --> 00:21:12,836 nanotechnology is going to fix our cells and our bodies. 411 00:21:12,871 --> 00:21:15,406 Genetic engineering will pick up the slack 412 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:17,474 and enable us to eradicate disease 413 00:21:17,509 --> 00:21:19,143 and to pick out the very traits 414 00:21:19,178 --> 00:21:21,178 that will keep us fit and healthy. 415 00:21:21,213 --> 00:21:23,147 All of this is amazing. 416 00:21:23,182 --> 00:21:25,649 But when we start talking about immortality, 417 00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:28,352 that's a whole other can of worms. 418 00:21:28,387 --> 00:21:32,156 If we really are serious about getting to forever-land, 419 00:21:32,191 --> 00:21:34,825 we'll have to replace our carbon-based human bodies 420 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:39,697 and upload ourselves to a supercomputer. 421 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:42,867 Now that's going to raise some serious issues. 422 00:21:49,041 --> 00:21:50,607 OSCAR: No, that's insane. 423 00:21:50,642 --> 00:21:53,310 EVA: I spend all my time there anyway. We both do. 424 00:21:53,345 --> 00:21:55,312 OSCAR: There are boundaries, Eva. 425 00:21:55,347 --> 00:21:57,848 There are lines you can't cross, even for us. 426 00:21:57,883 --> 00:22:00,517 We don't even know all the risks. 427 00:22:00,552 --> 00:22:03,187 What's to stop you from being copied or hacked? 428 00:22:03,222 --> 00:22:05,055 EVA: And if the only place I live is here, 429 00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:09,059 I could fall off a balcony when I'm not paying attention. 430 00:22:09,094 --> 00:22:12,663 I want to live in the digital world permanently, Oscar. 431 00:22:12,698 --> 00:22:18,369 Why worry about pain and death, if we can live forever there? 432 00:22:18,404 --> 00:22:19,503 OSCAR: Does it even count as living 433 00:22:19,538 --> 00:22:21,705 if your physical body is dead? 434 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:23,407 EVA: I know what I've got to do, 435 00:22:23,442 --> 00:22:26,277 but I would rather do it with your support. 436 00:22:33,719 --> 00:22:36,987 NARRATOR: It may look like sci-fi, but this is your future. 437 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:40,324 These are your new, unimaginable choices. 438 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,062 So, given the chance, would you upload your brain? 439 00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:50,934 NARRATOR: Okay, in the deep future 440 00:22:50,969 --> 00:22:53,837 we're going to have tiny robots in our veins 441 00:22:53,872 --> 00:22:56,273 carrying medicine to our cells and fixing them, 442 00:22:56,308 --> 00:22:58,175 which sounds pretty cool. 443 00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:02,012 And on top of that, we'll be able to alter our genetic code 444 00:23:02,047 --> 00:23:04,548 to make most diseases simply disappear, 445 00:23:04,583 --> 00:23:07,384 and deliver drastically longer lives. 446 00:23:07,419 --> 00:23:09,420 How long? Who knows? 447 00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:11,722 Centuries, maybe more. 448 00:23:11,757 --> 00:23:13,056 ROSE EVELETH: Over the past 150 years, 449 00:23:13,091 --> 00:23:15,125 we've basically doubled life expectancy. 450 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,593 And that's happened through vaccines, 451 00:23:16,628 --> 00:23:18,095 through, you know, hygiene, 452 00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:19,797 through understanding how disease works. 453 00:23:19,832 --> 00:23:21,799 I mean, that is incredible. 454 00:23:21,834 --> 00:23:24,034 WEBB: But we are still biologically hindered 455 00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:25,936 by the squishy computer in our heads. 456 00:23:25,971 --> 00:23:31,375 There are facets of our human brains that hold us back. 457 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:32,576 NARRATOR: But no matter how advanced 458 00:23:32,611 --> 00:23:34,611 our medical technologies get, 459 00:23:34,646 --> 00:23:36,914 there will always be new viruses, 460 00:23:36,949 --> 00:23:38,782 cells will always decay, 461 00:23:38,817 --> 00:23:41,418 and you can always just simply fall, 462 00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:44,421 hit your head, and lights out forever. 463 00:23:44,456 --> 00:23:45,889 In the deep future, 464 00:23:45,924 --> 00:23:49,326 failing organs will be replaceable or fixable. 465 00:23:49,361 --> 00:23:52,229 Even now, we can live without arms and legs, 466 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:54,097 kidneys and lungs, 467 00:23:54,132 --> 00:23:59,503 but there's only one body part we can't live without. 468 00:23:59,538 --> 00:24:01,939 GRAZIANO: You run into this limit where it becomes necessary 469 00:24:01,974 --> 00:24:04,007 to do something about the brain and the mind. 470 00:24:04,042 --> 00:24:05,976 And that's where you get into all this business 471 00:24:06,011 --> 00:24:09,847 of mind uploading. 472 00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:11,682 NARRATOR: If we want to live forever, 473 00:24:11,717 --> 00:24:13,851 humanity may have to become at least partly, 474 00:24:13,886 --> 00:24:16,520 if not completely, digital. 475 00:24:18,557 --> 00:24:19,923 If we want to bridge the chasm 476 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:22,993 separating longevity and immortality, 477 00:24:23,028 --> 00:24:24,928 we may have to make the giant leap 478 00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:27,464 of uploading the information from our brains 479 00:24:27,499 --> 00:24:29,834 into a digital network. 480 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:35,172 KAKU: We've had these multibillion-dollar projects 481 00:24:35,207 --> 00:24:39,276 to break open the boundaries of science. 482 00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:43,547 The next big program is the Connectome Project-- 483 00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:46,950 to map the entire brain. 484 00:24:46,985 --> 00:24:50,387 DVORSKY: So mind uploading will initially be a technology 485 00:24:50,422 --> 00:24:51,889 that's used for life extension, 486 00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:53,991 for someone who is near death, 487 00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:56,360 or for someone who has recently died. 488 00:24:56,395 --> 00:24:57,995 And the idea is that, 489 00:24:58,030 --> 00:24:59,963 you take all their memories and their personality, 490 00:24:59,998 --> 00:25:02,666 and you can somehow copy that 491 00:25:02,701 --> 00:25:05,168 and then transfer that into a digital medium, 492 00:25:05,203 --> 00:25:08,071 for life in a supercomputer. 493 00:25:08,106 --> 00:25:09,973 SOULE: I understand the attractiveness of it. 494 00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:12,910 Like, it's fun to think about. Because it's immortality. 495 00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:15,579 NARRATOR: That means by the Year Million epoch, 496 00:25:15,614 --> 00:25:18,048 there will be humans who are all computer. 497 00:25:18,083 --> 00:25:21,852 It's a far-out idea, and it's also far off. 498 00:25:21,887 --> 00:25:24,555 Scientists are just starting to tackle the problem 499 00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:29,092 of how to make this technology a reality. 500 00:25:29,127 --> 00:25:31,028 PHILIP ROSEDALE: Getting the information out of your brain 501 00:25:31,063 --> 00:25:33,196 is a problem that nobody knows how to solve yet. 502 00:25:33,231 --> 00:25:36,266 The technologies that you might use to go inside a living brain 503 00:25:36,301 --> 00:25:37,768 would destroy it. 504 00:25:37,803 --> 00:25:38,835 MICHAEL GRAZIANO: A lot has to get done 505 00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:40,604 before we can figure out 506 00:25:40,639 --> 00:25:46,043 whether we can take a pattern of connectivity from a brain 507 00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:48,612 and upload it or copy it. 508 00:25:48,647 --> 00:25:50,881 It's going to happen, I'm positive of that. 509 00:25:50,916 --> 00:25:54,418 Everything is moving that direction. 510 00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:56,186 KAKU: Believe it or not, 511 00:25:56,221 --> 00:26:00,624 we can actually upload memories and record memories in mice. 512 00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:02,893 Eventually we'll do it with primates, 513 00:26:02,928 --> 00:26:05,429 and after that, perhaps Alzheimer's patients. 514 00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:08,865 You'll have a brain chip, you'll push it, 515 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:13,136 and memories come floating into your hippocampus. 516 00:26:13,171 --> 00:26:15,105 ANDERS SANDBERG: The most likely early method 517 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:18,875 of creating a brain emulation would start with taking a brain 518 00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:21,311 and then slicing it up and scanning it. 519 00:26:21,346 --> 00:26:25,215 From this data, you would reconstruct the neural network, 520 00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:28,919 which would then be run on a suitable supercomputer, 521 00:26:28,954 --> 00:26:30,754 connected to a virtual body. 522 00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:34,091 NICE: Boom! You now live in the computer. 523 00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:38,061 You, your essence now lives in the computer. 524 00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:40,163 NARRATOR: Once we shed our physical bodies, 525 00:26:40,198 --> 00:26:43,600 we will exist only as a computer copy of our brains. 526 00:26:43,635 --> 00:26:45,469 It's hard to imagine exactly, 527 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:50,507 but basically you'd be digital information stored on a server. 528 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:54,411 But will we still be human if we aren't made of flesh and blood? 529 00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:55,946 SANDBERG: I think mind uploading 530 00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:58,815 is one of the most easily understandable steps 531 00:26:58,850 --> 00:27:02,786 where we could go from human to post-human. 532 00:27:02,821 --> 00:27:04,287 NARRATOR: Okay, hold on a minute. 533 00:27:04,322 --> 00:27:05,856 Post-human? 534 00:27:05,891 --> 00:27:07,924 How's that going to work? 535 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,994 What does that even look like? 536 00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:13,430 DVORSKY: A post-human is a completely digitized human 537 00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:15,365 that might still retain many human attributes, 538 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,135 but has shirked their biological lineage, 539 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:19,870 living in a digital existence. 540 00:27:19,905 --> 00:27:23,173 SANDBERG: Those post-humans would still laugh at jokes, 541 00:27:23,208 --> 00:27:24,975 they would still love, 542 00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:28,845 they would still remember their childhood as biological humans. 543 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,149 It's just that an uploaded post-human 544 00:27:32,184 --> 00:27:34,951 will also be potentially immortal, 545 00:27:34,986 --> 00:27:39,389 able to copy himself, and edit their brain. 546 00:27:39,424 --> 00:27:41,525 NICE: I mean, listen, I know that right now 547 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,995 everything that I touch, feel, taste, see, 548 00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:49,566 is nothing more than a chemical and electrical exchange 549 00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:52,302 happening synaptically inside this brain. 550 00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:55,005 So why not allow that to happen inside of a computer? 551 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,741 NARRATOR: Okay, that sounds all well and good. 552 00:27:57,776 --> 00:27:59,309 But wouldn't you miss your body? 553 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,211 I certainly would. 554 00:28:01,246 --> 00:28:06,650 What does it mean to feel when there's nothing to feel with? 555 00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:08,185 THURSTON: The pursuit of what it is to be human 556 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:10,220 is to achieve a higher level of consciousness, 557 00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:12,856 and like, is a human without a body, 558 00:28:12,891 --> 00:28:17,194 is a mind only being, in some ways more conscious? 559 00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:20,330 Or is the body, is that of what it means to be human? 560 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:23,533 I, I don't know, man, this is weird. 561 00:28:23,568 --> 00:28:25,869 NARRATOR: In this Year Million scenario, 562 00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:27,604 we could achieve everlasting life 563 00:28:27,639 --> 00:28:31,275 by unshackling our consciousness from our bodies. 564 00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:40,083 It's either the end point for humanity, or it's the beginning. 565 00:28:40,118 --> 00:28:42,853 And some believe that humanity will have entered 566 00:28:42,888 --> 00:28:46,256 what religion has called heaven. 567 00:28:46,291 --> 00:28:48,125 DVORSKY: This has been the goal of our species 568 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,862 since we first started to wonder is there life after death? 569 00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:54,097 Imagining that the end state, 570 00:28:54,132 --> 00:28:55,298 whether it be ascending into heaven 571 00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:57,801 or achieving a state of nirvana, 572 00:28:57,836 --> 00:29:00,804 would be this perpetual state of bliss. 573 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,874 I mean, this living forever in paradise, 574 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:07,043 that could very well be the end state of civilization. 575 00:29:07,078 --> 00:29:09,146 PAUL BETTNER: Like the technology that we're working on 576 00:29:09,181 --> 00:29:11,381 will enable something that's almost indistinguishable 577 00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:14,451 from what we've been describing as heaven and the afterlife 578 00:29:14,486 --> 00:29:16,953 for millennia. 579 00:29:16,988 --> 00:29:18,955 NICE: That's funny that some people feel like 580 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:20,824 that may be what heaven will be, 581 00:29:20,859 --> 00:29:24,127 is that we've found a way to upload our consciousness 582 00:29:24,162 --> 00:29:27,430 to a computer, and then we create constructs, 583 00:29:27,465 --> 00:29:31,067 ones that we know we would love, 584 00:29:31,102 --> 00:29:33,937 where we're around family and loving friends 585 00:29:33,972 --> 00:29:38,675 and having experiences into perpetuity. 586 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:42,746 My only caveat: I want to be able to pull my own plug 587 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:45,982 to self-terminate when I want. 588 00:29:46,017 --> 00:29:49,820 Otherwise you're trapped in that computer. 589 00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:54,491 NARRATOR: Heaven on Earth? 590 00:29:54,526 --> 00:29:57,861 More like heaven in the cloud, but a very different cloud 591 00:29:57,896 --> 00:30:00,797 than the one with cherubs shooting arrows at each other. 592 00:30:00,832 --> 00:30:05,202 We're talking about everlasting life in a digital paradise. 593 00:30:05,237 --> 00:30:07,537 Humanity may be heading in that direction. 594 00:30:07,572 --> 00:30:09,840 But should we let it? 595 00:30:09,875 --> 00:30:11,274 EVELETH: There are some ethicists 596 00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:13,977 who think that if we totally curb aging, 597 00:30:14,012 --> 00:30:15,779 that we're actually messing with evolution in a way 598 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:17,013 that we've never done before, 599 00:30:17,048 --> 00:30:18,849 and that we should not mess with. 600 00:30:18,884 --> 00:30:20,383 You've sort of sold your soul to the devil, in a lot of ways. 601 00:30:20,418 --> 00:30:22,686 You've given up some essential humanity. 602 00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:24,621 SOULE: It starts to drastically change 603 00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:27,891 what it means to be a person and a human being, 604 00:30:27,926 --> 00:30:30,493 and have, you know, even metaphysical stuff, 605 00:30:30,528 --> 00:30:32,028 what it means to have a soul. 606 00:30:32,063 --> 00:30:34,197 THURSTON: So much of what it means to be a person 607 00:30:34,232 --> 00:30:37,033 is connected to the end of personhood, 608 00:30:37,068 --> 00:30:39,870 that we try to live as hard as we can, 609 00:30:39,905 --> 00:30:42,572 and do as much as we can, before we can't anymore. 610 00:30:42,607 --> 00:30:44,007 SPAIHTS: It's going to require 611 00:30:44,042 --> 00:30:47,210 a complete internal redesign of the self, 612 00:30:47,245 --> 00:30:50,213 because every way we think about ourselves 613 00:30:50,248 --> 00:30:52,682 is calibrated against the milestones 614 00:30:52,717 --> 00:30:55,552 of a life of a certain span. 615 00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:59,522 GREENE: I'd like to think that what makes us who we are 616 00:30:59,557 --> 00:31:01,324 transcends our physical form. 617 00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,828 It transcends whether we're made up of molecules and atoms 618 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,030 and cells and neurons, 619 00:31:07,065 --> 00:31:10,567 and if we evolve to a digital form, 620 00:31:10,602 --> 00:31:14,037 the essence of who we are will stay with us. 621 00:31:14,072 --> 00:31:16,006 DIAMANDIS: Human desire to contribute, 622 00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:18,842 for love and for connection, to learn. 623 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:20,410 Will those things come with us? 624 00:31:20,445 --> 00:31:23,914 Is it genetic, is it in the structure of our brain? 625 00:31:23,949 --> 00:31:28,718 All of this stuff is insane, until it happens. 626 00:31:28,753 --> 00:31:30,020 ROSEDALE: I think without death, 627 00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:32,122 our life still does have purpose, 628 00:31:32,157 --> 00:31:35,525 because we always seem to seek to do great things. 629 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,394 And I bet that we do that even, 630 00:31:37,429 --> 00:31:40,864 you know, with infinite life spans. 631 00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,800 NARRATOR: In the far future, when we find eternity, 632 00:31:43,835 --> 00:31:46,036 we may lose our bodies, but hopefully, 633 00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:47,938 we will not lose our humanity. 634 00:31:47,973 --> 00:31:49,906 And until that day arrives, 635 00:31:49,941 --> 00:31:53,076 for those desperate for a shot at immortality today, 636 00:31:53,111 --> 00:31:56,813 their only chance may just be to go into a deep freeze, 637 00:31:56,848 --> 00:31:59,416 until the deep future arrives. 638 00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:04,888 NARRATOR: Once scientists perfect nanotechnology, 639 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:07,624 gene therapy, and mind uploading, 640 00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:09,392 we'll live a whole lot longer. 641 00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:12,295 But what do we do now if we want to live to see that future? 642 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:13,763 There's really just one thing 643 00:32:13,798 --> 00:32:15,999 that might give us that chance at immortality. 644 00:32:16,034 --> 00:32:18,234 It's a long shot, and it's expensive, 645 00:32:18,269 --> 00:32:21,438 and no one really knows if it will even work. 646 00:32:21,473 --> 00:32:26,009 It's something called cryonic preservation. 647 00:32:26,044 --> 00:32:29,079 SANDBERG: Cryonics is the idea that you can take somebody 648 00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:31,247 who's dying and freeze them, 649 00:32:31,282 --> 00:32:33,984 in the hope that future medicine will be advanced enough 650 00:32:34,019 --> 00:32:37,187 to both treat whatever they were dying of, 651 00:32:37,222 --> 00:32:41,524 and the damage we got from the cryonic suspension. 652 00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:45,328 I'm signed up for cryonics because I like being alive, 653 00:32:45,363 --> 00:32:47,998 I want to have that small extra chance. 654 00:32:48,033 --> 00:32:51,134 Maybe it's between 1% and 50%, 655 00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:56,539 but that's still much better than 100% chance of dying. 656 00:32:56,574 --> 00:32:59,275 NARRATOR: It sounds crazy, and many people think it is, 657 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:01,544 but it's kind of like playing the lottery-- 658 00:33:01,579 --> 00:33:03,813 the upside would be huge. 659 00:33:03,848 --> 00:33:05,315 FARSAD: It's a way of time traveling. 660 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:07,951 Put me to sleep when I'm at my cutest, 661 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:11,955 and then I'll wake up like, you know, 100 years from now, 662 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:13,857 maybe 1,000 years from now 663 00:33:13,892 --> 00:33:15,892 and then I'll see what it's like out there. 664 00:33:15,927 --> 00:33:19,162 Like is my favorite brunch place still open? 665 00:33:19,197 --> 00:33:20,563 NARRATOR: Of course that doesn't mean 666 00:33:20,598 --> 00:33:22,999 there might not be some major issues facing you 667 00:33:23,034 --> 00:33:24,801 even if you hit that jackpot. 668 00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:25,835 EVELETH: One of the huge problems 669 00:33:25,870 --> 00:33:27,871 of waking up in 150 years, 670 00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:30,073 regardless of how intact or un-intact your body is, 671 00:33:30,108 --> 00:33:32,509 is that things will be so different, 672 00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,578 it's going to be very difficult to acclimate. 673 00:33:35,613 --> 00:33:38,848 MARTIN REES: You'd be revived into a completely alien world. 674 00:33:38,883 --> 00:33:40,550 The question is, what would they do with you? 675 00:33:40,585 --> 00:33:43,353 Would they put you in a zoo? Would they look after you? 676 00:33:43,388 --> 00:33:44,821 And how would you feel? 677 00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:47,690 NARRATOR: Yes. No, thank you. Not for me. 678 00:33:47,725 --> 00:33:50,560 I'm not planning on being a spectacle in someone else's zoo, 679 00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:52,162 that's for sure. 680 00:33:52,197 --> 00:33:54,564 But the truth is, we don't know what life will be like, 681 00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,934 and for some people, cryonics offer the only glimmer of hope, 682 00:33:57,969 --> 00:34:01,504 no matter how slight, for continued life in the future. 683 00:34:01,539 --> 00:34:03,339 NEWSCASTER: The letter to a British judge 684 00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:07,010 from a teenage girl suffering from cancer was heartbreaking. 685 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:09,546 'I'm only 14 years old and I don't want to die, 686 00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:11,114 but I know I am going to die. 687 00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:13,716 I think being cryo-preserved gives me a chance 688 00:34:13,751 --> 00:34:17,854 to be cured and woken up, even in hundreds of years' time.' 689 00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:22,392 After consulting with her family, the judge agreed. 690 00:34:22,427 --> 00:34:24,027 SANDBERG: In this particular case, 691 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,963 a young girl wanted to have a cryonic suspension, 692 00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:29,933 because she was 14 years old and dying of cancer. 693 00:34:29,968 --> 00:34:32,102 Unfortunately, her father disagreed, 694 00:34:32,137 --> 00:34:37,107 so it ended up a court case, which caused a bit of attention. 695 00:34:37,142 --> 00:34:38,608 When the judge found that yes, 696 00:34:38,643 --> 00:34:42,045 of course she is allowed to be suspended. 697 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,981 WOMAN: She was very pleased with the decision 698 00:34:45,016 --> 00:34:47,117 to allow her to be cryo-preserved, 699 00:34:47,152 --> 00:34:50,420 which gave her great comfort in the last days of her life. 700 00:34:50,455 --> 00:34:51,888 NARRATOR: Who can blame the poor girl 701 00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:54,891 for wanting one more shot at life? 702 00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:57,227 Of course, cryonics has many skeptics, 703 00:34:57,262 --> 00:34:58,628 but that hasn't stopped people 704 00:34:58,663 --> 00:35:01,097 from planning for the best-case scenario. 705 00:35:01,132 --> 00:35:03,900 Take these guys in Sheffield, England. 706 00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:08,004 They're part of a non-profit organization called Cryonics UK, 707 00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,273 dedicated to preparing the recently deceased, 708 00:35:10,308 --> 00:35:13,777 who desire it, for cryonic preservation. 709 00:35:16,981 --> 00:35:19,916 ALAN SINCLAIR: Millions of things come from dead people. 710 00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:23,987 Hearts, livers, kidneys, corneas. 711 00:35:24,022 --> 00:35:26,923 I mean, the fact is, they're not dead. 712 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:28,091 DEREK WATKINSON: I've never been happy with the fact 713 00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:30,026 that we have to die. 714 00:35:30,061 --> 00:35:34,130 I heard that there were people who were interested in cryonics, 715 00:35:34,165 --> 00:35:37,800 and so I, I went with my family, just to find out more. 716 00:35:37,835 --> 00:35:39,836 And suddenly it was a eureka moment for me. 717 00:35:39,871 --> 00:35:42,372 It was sort of, ah, it's a possibility. 718 00:35:42,407 --> 00:35:49,112 ♪ ♪ 719 00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:50,980 NARRATOR: These guys aren't speculating, 720 00:35:51,015 --> 00:35:54,784 what you're seeing here is just a test run for the real thing. 721 00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:56,819 MAN: Once you get past the cooling-down stage, 722 00:35:56,854 --> 00:35:59,155 you then go into surgery, where you wash the blood out, 723 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:01,891 replace it with the antifreeze. 724 00:36:01,926 --> 00:36:04,127 After that, it goes into the body bag, 725 00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:06,963 and into the dry ice cooler. 726 00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:08,898 DVORSKY: Some people opt to have their whole bodies preserved, 727 00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:11,234 and some people just simply opt to have their heads preserved. 728 00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:12,635 That's where your memories are, 729 00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:15,872 and that's where you are as a person. 730 00:36:15,907 --> 00:36:18,575 MIRA: You know, of all the short television movies, 731 00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:20,877 there's one I am constantly thinking about. 732 00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:24,847 It's Welcome Back, Mr. Fox. 733 00:36:24,882 --> 00:36:28,751 DOCTOR: Your Cryonics Society filed for bankruptcy yesterday, 734 00:36:28,786 --> 00:36:31,921 and they were all set to move you out into the street. 735 00:36:31,956 --> 00:36:36,259 MIRA: It's about a man who's cryogenically frozen. 736 00:36:36,294 --> 00:36:40,863 He comes back, and he's a head in a jar. 737 00:36:40,898 --> 00:36:42,565 REES: Even if the body could be revived... 738 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,900 MR. FOX: What's going on here? 739 00:36:43,935 --> 00:36:45,501 REES: ...it's the separate question 740 00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:47,237 whether the brain's memories would be revived. 741 00:36:47,272 --> 00:36:49,005 MR. FOX: Don't do this to me. 742 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,673 DOCTOR: It's alright. MR. FOX: Don't put me in here! 743 00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:52,909 REES: Whether you'll be the same person, or not at all. 744 00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:56,779 MR. FOX: No! 745 00:36:56,814 --> 00:36:58,615 MIRA: That's a very cautionary tale. 746 00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:00,350 You don't know what you're in for 747 00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:02,352 if you're going to cryogenically freeze yourself. 748 00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:05,288 Like Ted Williams' head is frozen in Arizona somewhere. 749 00:37:05,323 --> 00:37:07,023 I don't know what, 750 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,859 if their plan is to put him onto a robot baseball body 751 00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:11,427 at some point, 752 00:37:11,462 --> 00:37:15,231 or to thaw him out, reattach his head to something, 753 00:37:15,266 --> 00:37:17,233 and then have him teach hitting clinics. 754 00:37:17,268 --> 00:37:18,768 GRAZIANO: Maybe at some future date, 755 00:37:18,803 --> 00:37:21,404 the technology will be there to read the brain, 756 00:37:21,439 --> 00:37:22,972 or put your head on another body, 757 00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:25,708 or upload you to a computer, or something like that. 758 00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:27,744 So that's the hope there. 759 00:37:27,779 --> 00:37:28,778 TIM GIBSON: It's a little bit exciting, 760 00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:30,280 and a little bit terrifying. 761 00:37:30,315 --> 00:37:31,814 You can either give in, 762 00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:35,385 or you can fight the fear and move through it. 763 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:36,953 It's just like doing anything. 764 00:37:36,988 --> 00:37:39,455 You learn to control it, you learn to understand it. 765 00:37:39,490 --> 00:37:42,492 Identifying things that you could improve on. 766 00:37:42,527 --> 00:37:44,961 WATKINSON: I was 14 when my dad died, 767 00:37:44,996 --> 00:37:47,930 so I think that might have had something to do with it. 768 00:37:47,965 --> 00:37:49,632 It's not, doesn't seem right somehow. 769 00:37:49,667 --> 00:37:53,169 All those years of knowledge and experience, just gone. 770 00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:56,673 I suppose we are playing God, but so what? 771 00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:59,509 I just want to be alive. 772 00:37:59,544 --> 00:38:02,612 MIRA: I think that eventually you run into an issue 773 00:38:02,647 --> 00:38:08,851 where if you keep prolonging life, is it worth prolonging? 774 00:38:08,886 --> 00:38:11,788 Is there a point where we're just a head in a jar 775 00:38:11,823 --> 00:38:13,856 like in Futurama, 776 00:38:13,891 --> 00:38:16,659 where, you know, you can just pull up the Richard Nixon head 777 00:38:16,694 --> 00:38:19,495 and have a conversation with it? 778 00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:23,366 Is that worth living? Do I want to be a head in a jar? 779 00:38:25,403 --> 00:38:28,338 NARRATOR: Sounds like Matt's not sold on cryonics, 780 00:38:28,373 --> 00:38:31,441 and in the future, it's possible not everyone will be sold 781 00:38:31,476 --> 00:38:33,209 on all the technologies available 782 00:38:33,244 --> 00:38:36,346 to prolong their lives. 783 00:38:36,381 --> 00:38:41,050 That means time will begin to catch up with them. 784 00:38:41,085 --> 00:38:52,161 ♪ ♪ 785 00:38:52,196 --> 00:38:57,200 [heart beating] 786 00:38:57,235 --> 00:39:00,336 JESS: Dad. 787 00:39:00,371 --> 00:39:02,972 NARRATOR: Like a heart attack while you're gardening. 788 00:39:03,007 --> 00:39:05,375 [beeping] 789 00:39:10,681 --> 00:39:12,348 OSCAR: You said I was stabilized three hours ago. 790 00:39:12,383 --> 00:39:15,218 JESS: Arterial plaque stabilizer dosage, Oscar. 791 00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:16,719 OSCAR: Why do I need more shots? 792 00:39:16,754 --> 00:39:19,322 JESS: Stable doesn't mean better, Dad. 793 00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:22,959 And a minor heart attack is still a heart attack. 794 00:39:34,572 --> 00:39:35,905 OSCAR: Feels a bit better. 795 00:39:35,940 --> 00:39:38,341 JESS: This is why you need your treatments. 796 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:39,742 Look, Mom's been taking them for years. 797 00:39:39,777 --> 00:39:41,411 I don't see why you couldn't take them. 798 00:39:41,446 --> 00:39:45,348 OSCAR: You know I'm not like your mother, honey. 799 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:46,783 I'm not sure I want to live forever. 800 00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:48,584 JESS: Well, you won't. 801 00:39:48,619 --> 00:39:50,386 According to my scan, if you don't start getting treatments, 802 00:39:50,421 --> 00:39:52,922 you're looking at another seven years. 803 00:39:52,957 --> 00:39:54,924 NARRATOR: I mean, for me, the choice is simple-- 804 00:39:54,959 --> 00:39:56,926 get those treatments, and maybe live long enough 805 00:39:56,961 --> 00:40:00,130 to see the Cubs win another World Series. 806 00:40:03,167 --> 00:40:06,302 Radical life extension might come too late for you and me, 807 00:40:06,337 --> 00:40:08,938 but it's on its way, and once it arrives, 808 00:40:08,973 --> 00:40:11,441 we're going to have a lot of time on our hands. 809 00:40:11,476 --> 00:40:14,877 It could mean total freedom, or endless stagnation. 810 00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:16,946 In Year Million, we're going to find out. 811 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:22,285 NARRATOR: Okay, in the deep future 812 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,420 your life span will be exponentially longer 813 00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:26,255 than it is now. 814 00:40:26,290 --> 00:40:29,325 But what does that really mean in your day-to-day existence? 815 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,494 Let's take the best-case scenario. 816 00:40:31,529 --> 00:40:33,663 Everything you've always wanted to do-- 817 00:40:33,698 --> 00:40:38,067 learn a new language, play the piano, learn to paint. 818 00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:40,169 In the future you'll have all the time in the world 819 00:40:40,204 --> 00:40:42,572 to do those things and more. 820 00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:47,010 That will change everything about how we approach our lives. 821 00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:53,082 KAKU: It's unconscious, 822 00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:55,618 but you think about the day you're going to die 823 00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:57,086 when you do anything. 824 00:40:57,121 --> 00:40:59,522 Going to college, getting a job, retirement, 825 00:40:59,557 --> 00:41:05,995 all these things are predicated on one fact, the day you die. 826 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:09,432 GREENE: We could have a really long lifespan. 827 00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:12,602 1,000 years, 100,000 years. 828 00:41:12,637 --> 00:41:14,470 NARRATOR: 100,000 years? 829 00:41:14,505 --> 00:41:16,973 That's hard to even imagine. 830 00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:19,442 DVORSKY: Once we achieve this radical life extension, 831 00:41:19,477 --> 00:41:22,645 what some futurists refer to as negligible senescence, 832 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,881 where we've ceased to age, 833 00:41:24,916 --> 00:41:28,684 society as we know it will change quite dramatically. 834 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,553 We will continue to evolve as individuals, you know, 835 00:41:30,588 --> 00:41:33,456 find new ways of interacting with the world, 836 00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:37,193 develop new skills, new relationships. 837 00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:39,729 SANDBERG: Currently, our relationships are based on 838 00:41:39,764 --> 00:41:42,398 the idea that we are supposed to stay together 839 00:41:42,433 --> 00:41:44,834 till death do us part. 840 00:41:44,869 --> 00:41:49,639 But if that is indefinitely, they might not last that long. 841 00:41:49,674 --> 00:41:51,507 SOULE: I mean, I'd like to think that, that there are marriages 842 00:41:51,542 --> 00:41:55,378 that could last five centuries and everyone would be happy. 843 00:41:55,413 --> 00:41:57,480 But, you know, a marriage that lasts five decades 844 00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:59,215 seems to strain the emotional resources 845 00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:00,716 of most people these days. 846 00:42:00,751 --> 00:42:02,385 ANNALEE NEWITZ: People will have 847 00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:05,421 a much more do-it-yourself approach to relationships, 848 00:42:05,456 --> 00:42:08,324 so kind of building the kinds of relationships they want to have, 849 00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:12,228 building families that they want to have. 850 00:42:12,263 --> 00:42:14,764 NARRATOR: Unlimited relationships of every kind. 851 00:42:14,799 --> 00:42:18,067 Yes, I bet a lot of you can get on board with that. 852 00:42:18,102 --> 00:42:22,271 But now let's look at the not-awesome possibility 853 00:42:22,306 --> 00:42:24,373 of radical life extension. 854 00:42:24,408 --> 00:42:27,510 KAKU: The danger facing a society that lives forever 855 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:30,046 is stagnation. 856 00:42:30,081 --> 00:42:32,848 NARRATOR: Without death we may just stop wanting or needing 857 00:42:32,883 --> 00:42:35,451 to do, well, anything. 858 00:42:35,486 --> 00:42:40,389 FARSAD: I feel like the idea that you could die, you know, 859 00:42:40,424 --> 00:42:41,624 gives you some kind of urgency 860 00:42:41,659 --> 00:42:43,693 about what you do with your life. 861 00:42:43,728 --> 00:42:47,063 Like are you going to achieve your goals? 862 00:42:47,098 --> 00:42:51,934 Are you going to finally take that trip to Barbados? 863 00:42:51,969 --> 00:42:55,137 NARRATOR: On the other hand many futurists disregard the idea 864 00:42:55,172 --> 00:42:57,440 that death is what gets us out of bed in the morning. 865 00:42:57,475 --> 00:42:59,075 DVORSKY: There's this common argument 866 00:42:59,110 --> 00:43:01,310 against radical life extension that I hear constantly, 867 00:43:01,345 --> 00:43:03,245 and that is, oh, why would anyone want to live forever? 868 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,147 We'd be so bored. 869 00:43:05,182 --> 00:43:08,417 And I'm like, are you serious? 870 00:43:08,452 --> 00:43:10,553 If anything, we're going to be paralyzed by choice. 871 00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:12,254 Like what are we going to do with ourselves, 872 00:43:12,289 --> 00:43:13,656 given that we have all these ways 873 00:43:13,691 --> 00:43:15,458 of, you know, engaging in the world 874 00:43:15,493 --> 00:43:19,128 and playing and relating to each other. 875 00:43:19,163 --> 00:43:22,064 NARRATOR: Whether we learn to kite surf and play the guitar 876 00:43:22,099 --> 00:43:23,833 or lay in bed all day, 877 00:43:23,868 --> 00:43:26,335 there are some practical consequences 878 00:43:26,370 --> 00:43:28,404 to our radically longer lives. 879 00:43:28,439 --> 00:43:31,173 Without death, the world could face a whole new array 880 00:43:31,208 --> 00:43:34,410 of population control issues. 881 00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:36,746 NEWITZ: That's where longevity gets really sticky, 882 00:43:36,781 --> 00:43:39,515 because if we're not going to overrun the planet 883 00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:42,151 with a bunch of 100-year-old people, 884 00:43:42,186 --> 00:43:44,687 we really have to rethink 885 00:43:44,722 --> 00:43:48,324 how we manage populations on the planet. 886 00:43:48,359 --> 00:43:49,859 N.K. JEMISIN: If we've suddenly got 6 billion people 887 00:43:49,894 --> 00:43:51,494 that aren't going anywhere, 888 00:43:51,529 --> 00:43:53,362 why do we need to have more children? 889 00:43:53,397 --> 00:43:56,198 Can this planet support increasing numbers of people, 890 00:43:56,233 --> 00:43:59,268 as more and more babies are born? 891 00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:03,472 What does it do to us if we are nothing but adults, 892 00:44:03,507 --> 00:44:04,940 we don't have kids around? 893 00:44:04,975 --> 00:44:07,209 I think that's harmful. 894 00:44:07,244 --> 00:44:09,445 DVORSKY: Yes, there are many challenges that will arise 895 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,113 as a result of radical life extension, 896 00:44:11,148 --> 00:44:12,948 such as the overpopulation problem. 897 00:44:12,983 --> 00:44:14,316 But I suspect that in the future, 898 00:44:14,351 --> 00:44:16,152 we will increasingly come to possess tools 899 00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:19,221 that will allow us to fix those problems. 900 00:44:19,256 --> 00:44:22,291 NARRATOR: But some of those Year Million solutions could be 901 00:44:22,326 --> 00:44:26,996 as frightening as the original problem of death once was. 902 00:44:27,031 --> 00:44:30,466 NEWITZ: In 500 years, you could imagine a culture 903 00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:32,868 where we have a regulatory agency 904 00:44:32,903 --> 00:44:35,471 that's in charge of who gets to have a kid, 905 00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:38,040 because we got to keep the population low enough 906 00:44:38,075 --> 00:44:42,044 to allow people to live for a really long time. 907 00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:43,646 NARRATOR: I don't like the sound of that. 908 00:44:43,681 --> 00:44:45,881 But that might not even be the half of it. 909 00:44:45,916 --> 00:44:47,750 It could get worse. 910 00:44:47,785 --> 00:44:49,185 DIAMANDIS: People are worried 911 00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:51,487 about the inequality of this technology. 912 00:44:51,522 --> 00:44:54,190 That it's going to come to the wealthiest people first. 913 00:44:54,225 --> 00:44:55,925 MIRA: If you're looking at prolonging your life, 914 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,527 and it's a technology that only the super rich can afford, 915 00:44:58,562 --> 00:45:00,196 what are you going to end up with? 916 00:45:00,231 --> 00:45:03,099 You're going to end up with... 917 00:45:03,134 --> 00:45:05,101 pretty much what happens now. 918 00:45:05,136 --> 00:45:07,236 THURSTON: We already have life extension right now, 919 00:45:07,271 --> 00:45:08,571 it's called being white. 920 00:45:08,606 --> 00:45:10,239 [laughs] 921 00:45:10,274 --> 00:45:12,174 Because of the health outcomes and the level of care. 922 00:45:12,209 --> 00:45:17,379 Like regular doctor visits is a, is a form of life extension. 923 00:45:17,414 --> 00:45:20,349 Healthcare is life extension. 924 00:45:20,384 --> 00:45:22,752 NARRATOR: These are the same issues we're dealing with today. 925 00:45:22,787 --> 00:45:25,387 Seems like if we don't find solutions for them now, 926 00:45:25,422 --> 00:45:27,757 it's only going to get worse in the future. 927 00:45:27,792 --> 00:45:31,594 NICE: So what we need now is to find equity 928 00:45:31,629 --> 00:45:36,599 so that all human beings can live well. 929 00:45:36,634 --> 00:45:38,467 DIAMANDIS: But here's the fact. 930 00:45:38,502 --> 00:45:42,037 We're heading towards a world of extraordinary abundance. 931 00:45:42,072 --> 00:45:45,241 You have access to the world's information on Google, 932 00:45:45,276 --> 00:45:46,575 you have access to megabit connections. 933 00:45:46,610 --> 00:45:48,410 So the poorest people on the planet, 934 00:45:48,445 --> 00:45:50,713 8 billion people within the next 10 years, 935 00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:54,216 will have access to all of this capability. 936 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:56,919 We are dematerializing, demonetizing, 937 00:45:56,954 --> 00:45:59,488 and democratizing. 938 00:45:59,523 --> 00:46:01,390 NARRATOR: That certainly would be the hope. 939 00:46:01,425 --> 00:46:04,093 That as we extend our life spans further and further 940 00:46:04,128 --> 00:46:07,463 into the future, perhaps even into eternity, 941 00:46:07,498 --> 00:46:11,834 we also ensure that society advances at the same rate. 942 00:46:11,869 --> 00:46:16,572 Otherwise we're going to be in for some serious problems. 943 00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:18,908 We've seen that the quest of immortality 944 00:46:18,943 --> 00:46:21,310 raises all sorts of sticky questions. 945 00:46:21,345 --> 00:46:24,346 It forces us to confront the very fundamental question 946 00:46:24,381 --> 00:46:27,783 about what our purpose is here on Earth, or beyond. 947 00:46:27,818 --> 00:46:32,454 Our desire for eternal life could liberate us or destroy us. 948 00:46:32,489 --> 00:46:34,356 SPAIHTS: So the question does become, 949 00:46:34,391 --> 00:46:39,328 when immortality arrives, what are you going to do with it? 950 00:46:39,363 --> 00:46:40,763 NARRATOR: The final step toward eternity 951 00:46:40,798 --> 00:46:43,499 will be a complete paradigm change. 952 00:46:43,534 --> 00:46:46,502 It's when you step into the screen you are watching, 953 00:46:46,537 --> 00:46:48,871 and it becomes your everything. 954 00:46:48,906 --> 00:46:52,174 All of society will live digitally, 955 00:46:52,209 --> 00:46:54,977 in a virtual world called the metaverse 956 00:46:55,012 --> 00:47:01,450 that is 1,000 times more intense than the one around you now. 957 00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:04,687 It sounds like The Matrix, 958 00:47:04,722 --> 00:47:06,823 but it's the Year Million. 77952

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