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I was at home
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on the day that I got the
call, it was 7 in the morning.
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The on-call super-intendant was trying
to get a hold of me because there was
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a new investigation that
I was gonna have to take.
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It was a case of get yourself
down to Twickenham with your team
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a girl has been murdered by being
battered on the head.
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It's a stranger attack
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and we don't know an awful
lot else at the moment.
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Was it someone
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who could be a serial attacker
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who could go on to strike again?
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As it turned out, yes.
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This is someone
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with a real propensity of
horrific violence to young women.
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The more I've seen
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of horrible things that
happen in the world
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and some of these things
can happen to anyone.
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This was a high-profile job
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and he was under serious pressure here
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when he made a decision,
he stuck with his guns.
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It's always absolutely crucial
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you think about what you're
doing in the first stages
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of an investigation
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by 9 o'clock that morning I was down
at Twickenham police station
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Colin Sutton
was a detective chief inspector
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and senior investigating officer
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in the Metropolitan police.
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He led the investigations
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into some of the most complex
and high-profile cases ever
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bringing dangerous criminals to justice.
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In this series
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he will take you inside those cases
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and show you how he caught these crimina
using nothing but pure detective work
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this is the Real Manhunter.
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Twickenham Green on a summer's day
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like we've seen, is normally a hive
of activity people enjoying themselves
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a oasis of green in suburban London.
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But, when I came here on
a summer's day in 2004
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it was because there'd been a murder
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and when I arrived here
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the whole green was cordoned off
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taped off preventing
people using it at all.
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Twickenham Green's sort
of a big triangular
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shape piece of land with a path running
through the middle of it and
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roads on all three sides.
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It's a cricket pitch with a cricket club
and a pavilion and it's where
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families take their children
and walk their dogs.
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It's in a very safe, pleasant,
quiet corner of London
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we were certainly not used to conducting
murder investigations there.
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Arriving to take over that investigation
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the first thing that
struck me was the scale
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of the open space,
the scale of the cordon.
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There was a woman had been murdered
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the was a scenes of crime tent over ther
protecting where she'd been found
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but we didn't know who she was,
where she'd come from how she got here
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and that meant that this entire
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swathe of green was
potentially my crime scene.
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Trying to make a forensic examination
a fingertip search of that sort of area
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takes a huge number of resources.
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It's always absolutely crucial what you'
doing in the first stages of an investig
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because decisions that are made
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then can have a profound effect
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on how the investigation goes and you ne
to make sure really that you
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you don't miss any chances
to preserve evidence
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that you might want to come across later
you might want to go back to later.
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Colin very quickly
identified the fact that...
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how important that this
evidence is going to be.
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If you make mistakes in the beginning
you're almost done.
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The first thing that I did was to
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get the scene widened so that we taped o
the pavement as well
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so that passers-by had to walk on the
other side of the roads
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which meant they weren't able to
put debris into the crime scene.
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It was really a question of
getting officers from search team
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to do a fine fingertip search around
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the immediate location of where
the body was found to see if
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there was anything that would give us a
as to who'd done it and what had happene
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The body was discovered around about qua
10 in the evening when it was obviously
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here by a man who lived locally
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he just went out for a quick walk round
the green to get some air.
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He saw what he thought at first
was a bin bag or a bag of rags
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it was only when he went over and
looked more closely that he realised
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it was the body of a woman, dressed in
white with a carrier bag nearby to her.
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He found that she was still alive
she was still breathing
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and he went away to get help
to raise the alarm.
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The police and ambulance service turned
very quickly afterwards
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and she was taken to the Kingston Hospit
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what the medical staff told us at
the hospital was that the severity
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of her injury was such
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that she couldn't have
been lying there very long
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and she survived minutes
rather than hours.
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What we need to do is to try and find ou
more about your victim
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and find out the journey she had to get
she was here where she lived, where she
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That morning we didn't know any
of that and it literally was
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a dead body in the middle
of Twickenham Green
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let's go an investigate it.
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Only as that day unfolded
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that we started to know
more about the victim
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and more about what happened
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that night in August 2004
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that we were able to prioritize our work
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and really start making some progress
in the investigation.
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Nearby was her carrier bag and it had
some clothing some shopping in it.
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But also in that bag was
a till receipt and it had
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some phone numbers written on
it, with some names.
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One of those names was 'Olivier'.
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It turned out he was the boyfriend of
the victim and he was able to tell them.
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'Yes her name is Amelie, Amelie Delagran
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she lives just near Twickenham Green'
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and that she worked as a waitress in
a patisserie in Richmond.
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I don't think I got home until
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past 2 o'clock the following morning
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so it's been a long day as well and
it's a long day where I'm thinking
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double thinking everything
that I'm doing because
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it's so important to get things right
at the early stage.
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By the Saturday morning we went back
to Twickenham Police Station
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and we had a...
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what we like to refer to as a 'Scrum-dow
basically a team meeting/briefing and it
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this is where the works done.
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So, I've got information coming in
from my intelligence officers
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my inquiry officers, some, in that case
from the borough as well.
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They were all feeling in and word was
getting around that this was a...
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a young girl that had been just
brutally murdered by a stranger.
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There was a palpable fear in the communi
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but there was also a sense that
they wanted to do something to help.
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I was part of the investigation into
Amelie Delagrange's murder
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from the beginning.
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My role was known as 'receiver'.
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The idea is you identify lines of inquir
the priorities
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very quickly.
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Lots of people would try to give informa
about what they thought might help.
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Our first crucial task that day
was to try to plot the movements
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that Amelie had made on the evening
that she was murdered.
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As is often the case.
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CCTV came to our assistance.
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It's very important to
get CCTV recovery rolling
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eally straight away because if you lose
the footage it's gone forever.
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The scene being in the middle of a green
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per se would not be covered by CCTV.
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But you can't get there without
almost certainly being caught on CCTV
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and Colin very quickly
identified the fact that...
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how important this
evidence was going to be.
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Amelie had been at work at the
French Patisserie in Richmond.
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After work she came here to Twickenham
to meet some friends
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in a wine bar called
'Cristal's', over there.
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She had three or four glasses of wine an
while she was there she phoned her boyfr
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but he was busy and couldn't meet up her
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So, it got to half past nine and she
thought 'Well, I'll call it a day'
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and she came across the road here and
caught a bus back to Twickenham Green.
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It was on that bus that
she missed her stop
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and that was her fateful mistake, becaus
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if she had gotten off at the correct sto
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she would have had a short walk to home
she would never have encountered her kil
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The bus she got on goes towards the bus
garage at Fullwell where it terminates.
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That means it takes the southern road
the bottom road along Twickenham Green.
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So, what she had to do
was get off at the stop
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at Twickenham Green
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walk across the green
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until her house which was in Gould Road
was a couple of streets north of the gre
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She had not gotten off at Twickenham Gre
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and she was still on the bus
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when it got to the terminus
at Fullwell bus garage.
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That's the bus stop that
she should have gotten off
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it's a short walk across the
green and up to where she lived.
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For whatever reason, we don't know
she missed her stop
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and instead,
she's carried on for around a mile
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down Hampton Road until
the bus garage at Fullwell.
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When she gets there the bus terminates a
asks the driver when the next bus back u
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to the green would be and he
said, 'about 10 minutes'.
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It was a nice summer's evening,
you can imagine Amelie thought.
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'I've got a decision,
do I wait 10 minutes for the bus
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or shall I just walk the mile back.
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Fatefully for her, she decided to walk.
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She's walked all the
way back up Hampton Road
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she'd have to go across Twickenham Green
to get to her home.
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All those buses at Fullwell bus garage
at that time had just been fitted
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with CCTV cameras
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and they had either six or eight cameras
that were facing inside and outside
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and it recorded onto a hard drive, it wa
timed with the atomic clock it was prett
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as good as you could get
for CCTV in those days.
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So, we've got CCTV pictures
of Amelie getting on the bus.
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CCTV pictures of Amelie talking to the b
driver and getting off the bus at Fullwe
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So, it then became a question of
going back up her walk up Hampton road
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and seeing what opportunities for CCTV
there might be there.
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There were three or four static CCTV
cameras one at the Loch Fyne Restaurant
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there was an accountants
that had CCTV as well and
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indeed, a police car a traffic police ca
one of the Provida cameras running at th
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But also, of course there were
buses, other buses
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going up and down this road all the
time and they had the CCTV running
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so by the time you actually
got all the buses CCTV
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we were able to get a dozen or so
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points where we could fix 'this is where
was at that time' and we could plot her
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all the way back up to Twickenham Green
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and it was only as she went onto the gre
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that there was no more CCTV and she
was found in the middle of the green.
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We had everything apart the last
70 or 80 yards of her journey.
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What it showed us was that about 5 past
that evening
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she came though this side
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of the pavilion,
she'd have to walk across here
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around the Cricket wicket and she
would be over towards where she lived.
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But we also know she was intercepted.
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We think that her attacker
came onto the green
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from this side of the Cricket Pavilion
and followed her
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and it was just when she was just beyond
the Cricket wicket
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that he attacked her, hitting her across
back of the head with something quite he
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and causing a fatal injury.
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One of the first things that needs
to be done in a murder investigation
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is to make sure the
next of kin are informed
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it's more difficult when the next of kin
are abroad as they were in this case.
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Amelie's parents lived in a little villa
called 'Hanvoile' in 'Picardy' in France
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We had a couple of French speaking offic
seconded to the team.
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They phoned our French colleagues and
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explained the situation to them.
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Essentially, first they said 'well, we'l
phone number for you, you can phone them
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and we said 'no that's not how we do it
we'll send someone round there'
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and they said 'well no,
that's not how we do it'.
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When Colin found out that this was how
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they were going to be informed
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he asked them not to phone and arranged
for somebody to go round in person
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to speak to them because
he felt that was a kinder
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more humane way of informing somebody
that their daughter had been
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killed, and in such an appalling way.
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Eventually, I kind of...
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it was almost a veiled threat really
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I said 'I'm not going to have them phone
up and told about it
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if we need to send somebody
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then I'll get somebody from the British
in Paris and see if they will go round a
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and I think that the
prospect of me involving
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the diplomats in it might have had
some effect on the French police.
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I said, 'Ok then, I'll go
round', sort of begrudgingly.
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I later found out when
speaking to Amelie's parents
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that what indeed they'd done was they
had gone round there
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there was two detectives
in a car parked on the drive.
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Amelie's father came home from work
and they got out of the car
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and said 'are you Mr
Delagrange?' and he said 'yes'
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they said 'ok can you ring this number y
daughter has been murdered in England'
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and they got in the car and drove off.
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They didn't even go in the house
they never even entered the house.
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The first time the police officers went
the Delagrange's house about Amelie's mu
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was when I went over there to the funera
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So, it's just an example of how
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priorities are different in different co
and things are done in different ways I
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Even at that point there was an awarenes
amongst all of us that this might not be
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the only one of these
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that there had been
other attacks where women
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had been hit over the back
of the head by a stranger.
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I suppose the first feeling was that thi
was going to be one of those cases where
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you had this element of pressure
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to succeed quickly
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to try and protect other people.
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And I think we all realised
that pretty early on
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so that probably added to the
sombre attitude that there was.
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A little while into the investigation
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I was made aware of another case as...
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Kate Sheedy, in May 2004.
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Kate had been walking home and had just
got off a bus in Isleworth
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but, she had seen this vehicle
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that she thought was
laying in wait for her.
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Kate was 18 years old;
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She had been to Twickenham town centre
with some school friends to celebrate
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the last day of lessons before they were
all dispersed and took their A levels.
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She got the bus back
from Twickenham to home
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getting off at that bus stop down there.
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She then had a short,
200-yard walk, to her home.
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The suspect's vehicle
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a white people carrier
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had followed the bus.
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Kate was concerned about
this particular vehicle
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concerned enough to cross the road
try and get out the way.
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She started walking along the pavement
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and she saw ahead of her
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a white people carrier.
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It had blacked out windows
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and she thought it was odd because the
engine was running but the lights were o
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She was intelligent enough
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to sense something might be wrong
and she'd heard stories
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of girls being dragged into cars
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and abducted and so forth.
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To be on the safe side
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she thought 'I'll cross the road'.
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So, she crossed onto the
pavement on this side
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and walked on this side
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until she got to this point here.
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When she was here
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the people carrier suddenly
lurched forward at speed
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turned right and knocked her down.
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She fell to the ground
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the front wheel of the people carrier wh
over her body and stopped
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then it went backwards,
reversed over her again
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into the main road, and drove away.
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His whole intent was truly horrendous
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to do that to that young person
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probably because she's a
person way out of his reach.
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Kate suffered terrible injuries
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every one of her ribs was broken
her liver was split in two
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but she remained conscious throughout.
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She managed to crawl a few yards
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recovering her mobile phone which
she'd dropped during the incident.
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She dialled her mother and
told her mother 'I'm here
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I've been knocked over, I need help'
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and then dialed 999 to get the police
and the ambulance to come
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showing the courage that she showed
throughout this ordeal she suffered.
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You can hear in her
phone call how desperate
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that person is, at that point.
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If you replace being hit over
the head with being run over by
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a people carrier
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then actually the profile of the victim
the location, the sort of blitz attack
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everything was sort of similar
So, I kept a real
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open and undecided mind on whether that
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might have been one of our cases as well
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When I started on this investigation
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I was aware of the Marsha McDonnell murd
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I knew that Marsha had
been murdered in Hampton
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not too far away, more than a year
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18 months previously.
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I also knew that it was investigated by
another murder team one from Hendon
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and that they had what they considered t
be a very good suspect who was arrested.
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Marsha had been at the cinema in Kingsto
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with her friends.
And She'd got the 111-bus home
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here to Percy Road.
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It was about 20 past midnight when
she arrived here at this bus stop.
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Marsha McDonnell got off the bus
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walked down the road, turned right towar
her home address
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the suspect followed
her, drove around the bus
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and pulled into the road behind her.
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We think he propositioned her
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then he got out of the car and struck
her in the head with a heavy object
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she sadly died from that injury. This wa
now the 3rd case we were investigating
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which involved a victim
who had just been on a bus
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and was accosted near a bus stop.
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Marsha's murder was another
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big story for the media
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and a very worrying story, I think
for the population.
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There is no apparent explanation for
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why this would have happened other than
it possibly being a serial attacker
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or someone that is striking at random.
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We know from other victims
who had been hit over the head
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with a hammer from behind that there was
no interaction
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he just went up behind them and hit
them over the head with a hammer.
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Marsha's mother,
having seen a picture for Amelie
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the day after her murder
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was very struck by the similarity
in their appearances
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as well as the similarity
in the modus operandi
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the method of their deaths.
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At that point,
the investigation started to merge
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and the police began to focus on the
fact that there was possibly here
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a serial attacker.
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The Metropolitan Police said they were
not linking it to Marsha's murder
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the reason for that was that they
were looking at this other suspect
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who they felt murdered Marsha.
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On the night that Marsha was
murdered, but before she was murdered
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there was another young
lady, a 16-year-old girl
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who reported being followed
by a strange young man.
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But when you looked at all the detail
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the only thing he had actually been iden
for was for following this other girl
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there was no real connection between him
and Marsha McDonnell.
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At the moment
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they're two separate offenses and we're
after Amelie and we're concentrating on
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You have to go with
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the most recent job because you have the
best chances of getting the best evidenc
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and then look at the others.
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I was then told that there were other
non-fatal attacks nearby.
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Because of the way that it works, whereb
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if you get attacked and you survive
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your case is investigated
by a couple of DC's
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if you get attacked badly and you die
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it's investigated by a
murder team of 30 odd.
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So, the non-fatal attacks in the area ha
been left with the borough to deal with
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and we were completely unaware of them
on the murder team.
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One of the first cases
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we think was linked to this series was
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of Anna Maria Rennie
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who was attacked in Hospital Bridge Road
in Whitton in october 2001
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this was an abduction
or attempted abduction.
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A vehicle pulls up after.
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Anna Maria is walking away from a bus st
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and the suspect grabs a hold of her and
tries to drag her to the rear of the car
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Anna Maria screams, struggles
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and gets away and fortunately for her
effectively the end of that particular a
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Edel Harbison had been
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walking in.
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April I think it was, in 2004
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walking from a restaurant on the north
side of Twickenham Green to go home
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and been hit over the head
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dropping all of her shopping
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falling flat on her
face, smashing her face
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needing reconstructive surgery.
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We didn't know a lady called
'Dawn Brunton' had been
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attacked in the same way
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up towards Hatton Cross,
towards Heathrow Airport
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on the 5th of November 2003
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sustaining head injuries
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to the back of her head where she was hi
and facial injuries where she fell over.
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Irma Dragoshi who was attacked
in Longford Village in December 2003.
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Irma was an Albanian woman
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who had lived in Hounslow
with her husband.
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She was standing at a bus stop
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on her way home from work
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at about 10 o'clock at night
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when she was attacked
randomly by a stranger
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who hit her over the head
with a blunt instrument
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and then Irma woke up in hospital
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with a huge injury to her head.
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She suffered, I think, very bad neck pai
and back pain, very bad headaches
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and I know she suffered a
lot for quite a long time.
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There was another where.
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'Jesse Wilson' was found with
a wound on the back of her head
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and facial injuries and was thought
that she had fallen over in the snow
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it wasn't even dealt with as a crime.
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The common thing with all these
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victims that survived is that they
recall nothing at all of the attack
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that's quite common, that you lose
a portion of your recent memory.
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It was only when Marsha was murdered
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reasonably close by, 4 weeks later
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that Jesse's case was looked at again
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and the pathologist who had done the
post-mortem examination on Marsha McDonn
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looked at the photographs of the injurie
that Jesse Wilson had
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and said 'I think this is the
same person that did this'
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Because of the lack of detail and.
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CCTV recovery and lack
of potential evidence
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her case sat as a 'probable'
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rather than a 'definite' because
we were unable to prove it.
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My strategy very much was
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let's stick with Amelie for the moment.
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But the reason I said that was because
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it was the most recent offense
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it hadn't ever been
investigated by anybody else.
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If and when we find a suspect
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then we can try and work backwards
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and sort of retrofit him to
those other offenses in the past.
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The next big
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piece of information
we had to consider was
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the service provider for
Amelie's mobile phone.
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They had been able to
tell us that her phone
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was last on their network
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at 23 minutes past 10
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and that was in the
vicinity of Walton Bridge.
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Walton Bridge is 6-8 miles away
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we knew that she had been
found by the passer by
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getting on for quarter past 10.
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More interesting perhaps is the handshak
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in simple terms it's a phone
saying, 'I'm here
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have you got any calls for me?'
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and the network says 'no, it's alright,
thank you but we know where you are now'
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What happened with Amelie's
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was that her phone was in the
area of Walton on Thames Bridge
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then it just suddenly disappeared.
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And that means one of 3 things.
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Either that the phone has been
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put into a place where there is no signa
and stayed there
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that the phone has been
deliberately broken
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or had the battery removed
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to stop it functioning straight away
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or it could been that
it was thrown into water
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of course we're talking
about Walton Bridge
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00:26:04,032 --> 00:26:06,532
so there is a lot of water there because
it's the river Thames.
456
00:26:08,767 --> 00:26:09,866
When we came down here
457
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,700
I wanted to try to find Amelie's phone
458
00:26:12,932 --> 00:26:15,032
and her other belongings from her handba
459
00:26:15,532 --> 00:26:18,573
So, I had the police divers
come exactly to this spot
460
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:20,799
doing a dive every 15 to 20 minutes
461
00:26:20,932 --> 00:26:22,932
then resting and going back down again.
462
00:26:23,866 --> 00:26:27,527
It was remarkable, it was just the secon
dive they made
463
00:26:28,432 --> 00:26:29,833
a diver surfaces
464
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,569
and shows us a keyring and a Sony Discma
465
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,130
the Sony Discman was something
we knew Amelie had in her handbag
466
00:26:38,166 --> 00:26:40,297
but the keys were better because the key
467
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:43,970
had a fob on them which
contained a photograph of Amelie
468
00:26:44,099 --> 00:26:45,730
at a theme park on a log flume.
469
00:26:45,932 --> 00:26:47,732
So, we instantly knew
470
00:26:47,866 --> 00:26:50,297
that this set of keys must have been her
471
00:26:50,567 --> 00:26:52,227
That really then confirmed
472
00:26:52,432 --> 00:26:55,103
the information that we had
from the mobile phone company
473
00:26:55,333 --> 00:26:57,633
saying that whoever killed Amelie
474
00:26:57,767 --> 00:27:01,527
had brought her handbag and her belongin
to this spot.
475
00:27:02,366 --> 00:27:06,067
The bridge here at Walton on Thames
and this sort of public area aside
476
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,569
it is an important location
for a number of reasons.
477
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:13,400
First, we had the cell sighting
information from Amelie's
478
00:27:13,532 --> 00:27:16,333
mobile phone company which
told us that the phone
479
00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:20,069
was last seen on the network,
it was switched off or thrown into water
480
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,130
somewhere in this area.
That had the effect of
481
00:27:23,267 --> 00:27:26,826
dictating to me the CCTV parameters
482
00:27:26,967 --> 00:27:29,896
every possible route
483
00:27:30,032 --> 00:27:32,673
from Twickenham Green to Walton Bridge
484
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:36,670
that could be done by car,
that was the CCTV area.
485
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,630
The mobile phone were never found and of
course things are so variable with curre
486
00:27:42,767 --> 00:27:44,896
and sort of different surfaces and boats
going past
487
00:27:45,032 --> 00:27:48,373
it's not really surprising,
we searched there for a good while
488
00:27:48,532 --> 00:27:50,202
for I think over two or three days
489
00:27:50,333 --> 00:27:53,103
but couldn't find it in
the stretch of area but
490
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:56,769
didn't really need to, we had her keys
we had the mobile phone signal
491
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,869
we knew that's where things had
gone straight after the murder.
492
00:28:03,866 --> 00:28:05,396
Normally in an investigation
493
00:28:05,532 --> 00:28:08,103
in most murder investigations we
did, we'd have one
494
00:28:08,299 --> 00:28:11,170
sometimes two officers looking at CCTV.
495
00:28:11,333 --> 00:28:14,932
Such was the volume on
this case that we had seven
496
00:28:15,633 --> 00:28:19,103
and we'd gave them a dedicated room,
we got all the equipment that we could.
497
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,369
One morning I went past there
498
00:28:21,633 --> 00:28:23,843
and one of them said 'governor,
you need to come and see this...'
499
00:28:23,866 --> 00:28:26,666
One of the most crucial
parts of the CCTV was
500
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,930
a bus camera that picked up a white
van parked alongside the green.
501
00:28:31,067 --> 00:28:32,567
At almost exactly the time
502
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,730
that Amelie must have been being murdere
503
00:28:34,866 --> 00:28:37,727
there was a little white
van parked just over there
504
00:28:37,967 --> 00:28:41,396
the other side of the cricket pavilion.
Was only there for less than eight minut
505
00:28:41,532 --> 00:28:45,202
By going back to other CCTV earlier
in the evening and slightly afterwards
506
00:28:45,333 --> 00:28:49,133
they were able to reconstruct
what that van had been doing.
507
00:28:49,366 --> 00:28:53,166
It had been driving around and around
Twickenham Green
508
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,670
for 40 minutes.
509
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,769
It looked like somebody was hunting.
510
00:28:56,967 --> 00:29:00,227
This van first appeared in
the Twickenham Green area
511
00:29:00,366 --> 00:29:05,027
just after 20 to 10
I then plotted it and had seen it on
512
00:29:05,166 --> 00:29:07,596
I think it was 14 different occasions
513
00:29:08,232 --> 00:29:11,772
at various points around the green over
the next three quarters of an hour.
514
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,799
The CCTV team
515
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,500
then spent hours trawling
through the footage
516
00:29:17,866 --> 00:29:20,826
identifying the white
van from different angles
517
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,099
side views, back views, whatever they ca
get from whatever footage they've got.
518
00:29:25,232 --> 00:29:30,032
It did not include detail
of the registration number but it did gi
519
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:34,470
quite specific detail about the type.
520
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:39,099
Luck was on our side to a degree because
it had a headlight that wasn't working,
521
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,299
it had a wheel trim missing from
the front nearside wheel
522
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:44,829
and it had some sort
of defects at the back
523
00:29:44,967 --> 00:29:48,926
which made it easily identifiable on CCT
524
00:29:49,366 --> 00:29:54,626
Looking at the movements of the van and
Amelie's movements together
525
00:29:54,932 --> 00:29:56,302
we can be certain
526
00:29:56,732 --> 00:29:59,103
that at some point in Hampton Road
527
00:29:59,366 --> 00:30:01,096
the van had passed her.
528
00:30:01,567 --> 00:30:06,767
Not only that, but her pace slowed down
as if she may have been stopped for a wh
529
00:30:07,467 --> 00:30:09,567
And that's why we think that what happen
530
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:11,569
was that the driver of the van
531
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:15,299
had seen her walking, had stopped
and engaged her in conversation
532
00:30:16,166 --> 00:30:20,126
and than presumably when the proposition
was declined
533
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:22,500
the van carried on in front of her
534
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:24,200
parked up there
535
00:30:24,366 --> 00:30:26,326
and the driver laid in wait
536
00:30:26,467 --> 00:30:32,666
and when he saw Amelie, very visible eve
dark green because she had all white clo
537
00:30:33,366 --> 00:30:38,866
He came up behind her, stalked her aroun
the cricket wicket and then attacked her
538
00:30:40,633 --> 00:30:42,403
The thing about Colin Sutton
539
00:30:42,567 --> 00:30:44,666
is he thinks outside the box.
540
00:30:45,932 --> 00:30:50,833
There was one window of opportunity
and that was around a camera on the bus
541
00:30:50,967 --> 00:30:54,126
that had picked up the Ford courier van
542
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,670
around Twickenham Green
at that precise time.
543
00:30:57,799 --> 00:30:59,670
A brilliant job by his team
544
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:03,470
in terms of going through
all the CCTV from the area
545
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:05,329
a painstaking job.
546
00:31:05,467 --> 00:31:09,027
We needed to find out who was in that va
Even if it wasn't the murderer
547
00:31:09,532 --> 00:31:12,373
and I had a good suspicion that
it probably was the murderer but
548
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:17,369
even if it weren't the murderer, it woul
be a potential witness some people above
549
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:19,470
thought I should be
550
00:31:20,666 --> 00:31:22,696
putting my time not on CCTV and vans
551
00:31:22,833 --> 00:31:24,702
but on rounding up local sex offenders
552
00:31:24,833 --> 00:31:25,702
and the usual suspects.
553
00:31:25,833 --> 00:31:27,772
There is kind of a difference between
554
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,430
theoretical investigation
555
00:31:30,666 --> 00:31:32,997
and what academia might say.
556
00:31:33,166 --> 00:31:40,197
There was no obvious physical
sexual dimension to these attacks.
557
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,930
A sociopath or psychopath is someone wit
no feelings about anyone whatsoever.
558
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,920
He just went up behind them and hit
them over the head with a hammer.
559
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,569
To say that we should be
looking at sex offenders
560
00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:54,497
to the exclusion of somebody
561
00:31:55,133 --> 00:31:56,232
who was there at the time
562
00:31:56,767 --> 00:31:57,896
didn't make any sense to me.
563
00:31:58,032 --> 00:31:59,873
My immediate boss didn't agree with me
564
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,369
some of my team may not
have agreed with me.
565
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:07,670
But, that was my decision, that's what I
got paid to do to make these decisions t
566
00:32:08,432 --> 00:32:10,732
strategize on the investigations.
567
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,900
I went to the Ford Motor Company
568
00:32:15,032 --> 00:32:18,772
and they were able to tell me from looki
at the pictures and various features of
569
00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:22,403
that there were approximately 25 thousan
registered in the UK.
570
00:32:22,532 --> 00:32:24,333
We needed to be able to find
571
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:27,400
the white Ford Courier
vans that were being used
572
00:32:27,532 --> 00:32:28,633
in the Twickenham area.
573
00:32:28,767 --> 00:32:30,727
Nowadays that would be
easy because there's
574
00:32:30,866 --> 00:32:35,227
really reliable number plate recognition
camera software.
575
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:38,099
We didn't have that,
so the only other way of doing it
576
00:32:38,366 --> 00:32:40,567
was by human observation.
577
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,769
The resources that
were put in to trying finding
578
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:48,329
that included evenings and night times
in and around Twickenham and me personal
579
00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,297
along with others, stood on a footbridge
580
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,769
across the A316 in the
Twickenham/Whitton area
581
00:32:54,166 --> 00:32:55,767
looking for incoming vehicles
582
00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:58,569
coming backwards and forwards on the A31
583
00:32:58,767 --> 00:33:00,467
had we seen any, we would have made
584
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,170
contact with local officers and they wou
have stopped the vehicles there and then
585
00:33:04,532 --> 00:33:06,673
I'd read a book about the Yorkshire Ripp
586
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,769
The investigation, and the
587
00:33:09,866 --> 00:33:15,727
the investigation there had 50 thousand
they had to try and eliminate on tyre tr
588
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:19,529
And they started it and they had far wor
589
00:33:20,333 --> 00:33:24,073
facilities and equipment than we had,
because we had computers and things
590
00:33:24,333 --> 00:33:26,403
they had sheets of paper and people
591
00:33:26,633 --> 00:33:30,032
literally ruling cars out on their hands
and knees on the floor with
592
00:33:30,166 --> 00:33:31,527
with magic marker pens.
593
00:33:31,666 --> 00:33:32,866
They gave up
594
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,742
they found that they couldn't manage it
and they went on
595
00:33:34,767 --> 00:33:37,846
to pursue other lines of inquiry about
halfway through and if they carried on.
596
00:33:38,633 --> 00:33:42,403
Peter Sutcliffe's Ford
Corsair was in that group.
597
00:33:42,932 --> 00:33:45,903
We've got to have learned
in the last 25 years that
598
00:33:46,866 --> 00:33:51,227
if you embark upon this sort of exercise
then you have to see it through.
599
00:33:51,633 --> 00:33:53,032
I remember at the time
600
00:33:53,166 --> 00:33:55,467
thinking 'this really is
a needle in a haystack'.
601
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:58,599
You make your own luck, and Colin once
described himself as being
602
00:33:59,032 --> 00:34:01,403
either a good detective or a lucky one
603
00:34:01,567 --> 00:34:03,366
and you might argue;
You make your own luck.
604
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:05,599
A number of us, myself included
605
00:34:06,067 --> 00:34:08,896
was spending a couple of
hours after work each day
606
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,530
in Twickenham, around Twickenham Green a
just driving around or sitting parked up
607
00:34:13,666 --> 00:34:15,496
hoping to spot this white van.
608
00:34:15,632 --> 00:34:20,432
I had no illusions that it was going to
extremely time consuming
609
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:25,099
and I think if it had failed, somebody e
would have taken this investigation off
610
00:34:28,032 --> 00:34:29,672
The point was made by Colin that
611
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,630
he would put resources, whatever it took
to find that vehicle.
612
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,699
As it happened
613
00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:38,126
it was us in the incident room, or me in
incident room that identified the right
614
00:34:38,367 --> 00:34:42,197
Because of the nature of Amelie's death
the fact that such a
615
00:34:42,833 --> 00:34:45,402
terrible crime is so rare in that area
616
00:34:45,666 --> 00:34:48,126
we'd had all sorts of help
from the local community.
617
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,170
Jo Collins gave
information about her ex-partner.
618
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:54,929
She said his name was Levi,
she'd come across certain things
619
00:34:55,067 --> 00:34:57,867
blonde women being photographs that were
stabbed out.
620
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,469
'He was violent towards me
621
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,730
he's a misogynist, he hates blonde
women particularly.
622
00:35:02,867 --> 00:35:04,126
He also would work doors
623
00:35:04,266 --> 00:35:05,967
in nightclubs and things like that.
624
00:35:06,099 --> 00:35:08,670
That made him this supposed
625
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,429
character who could endear
himself to young girls
626
00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:14,197
because he could encourage young
girls to get into night clubs.
627
00:35:14,467 --> 00:35:17,186
So, they would look at him... but
most of these girls were vulnerable
628
00:35:17,432 --> 00:35:18,632
and very often
629
00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:22,126
those young girls would soon be abused
and damaged by him.
630
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:24,969
He currently works as a wheel clamper an
he uses a white van'.
631
00:35:25,099 --> 00:35:26,929
This is an illegal car clamper
632
00:35:27,132 --> 00:35:30,932
who puts signs up after people have park
633
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:33,733
and waits for vulnerable
women to come back
634
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,269
to their vehicle before confronting them
635
00:35:36,532 --> 00:35:38,032
with torrents of abuse
636
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:41,199
saying how much this person has to pay
to get the clamp off.
637
00:35:41,467 --> 00:35:44,067
What that did was trigger
somebody else's memory
638
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:48,269
who said 'hang on, when we were looking
at the locally registered couriers
639
00:35:48,766 --> 00:35:52,266
a garage said they'd sold
one to a wheel clamper'
640
00:35:53,132 --> 00:35:54,842
So I'm wondering if that
could be the same one.
641
00:35:54,867 --> 00:35:56,297
My brother, Dave
642
00:35:56,432 --> 00:35:58,608
had been in the police a little bit
longer than me and he had a number
643
00:35:58,632 --> 00:36:00,402
of connections through policing
644
00:36:00,532 --> 00:36:04,103
and personal life in and around sort
of Kingston Richmond, Twickenham
645
00:36:04,233 --> 00:36:05,103
where we grew up.
646
00:36:05,233 --> 00:36:07,233
Predominantly, my first role
647
00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:11,273
was in relation to the
tracing of the white van.
648
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,775
It didn't have a registration number
649
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,969
just had a white van which
was quite distinctive
650
00:36:15,099 --> 00:36:19,170
but not specifically distinctive because
it was quite a blurred image.
651
00:36:19,333 --> 00:36:22,932
So, each officer had actions to go out
and trace white vans.
652
00:36:23,132 --> 00:36:25,733
Joanne Collins information came back int
the incident room
653
00:36:25,932 --> 00:36:29,432
I reviewed that, in particular the
information about the wheel clamper
654
00:36:29,833 --> 00:36:31,932
then made me review this particular dock
655
00:36:32,067 --> 00:36:33,726
about this particular vehicle.
656
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:35,730
The vehicle was the right type
657
00:36:35,867 --> 00:36:40,626
but more importantly, it was sold
by a dealer that both my brother.
658
00:36:40,833 --> 00:36:42,233
Dave Leach, and I, knew.
659
00:36:42,532 --> 00:36:44,873
Guy called John Wren who
worked for Warren Motors.
660
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,269
It was a man that I knew well
661
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,269
I had a relationship
with John from way back.
662
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,500
This is just relations
built on normal policing
663
00:36:50,699 --> 00:36:52,675
when you drop in for a tea and you get
a bit of knowledge
664
00:36:52,699 --> 00:36:55,139
it was that kind of relationship
if you're in the van business
665
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:57,670
you're dealing with some
quite serious characters
666
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,599
and these characters who bought the van
667
00:36:59,733 --> 00:37:00,873
a guy called Aaron Smith
668
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,329
who was a traveller,
bought 2 vans from John
669
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,099
and one of them
670
00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:08,827
this particular van was being driven
by Levi Bellfield.
671
00:37:09,432 --> 00:37:12,003
I knew that there was
a car clamping business
672
00:37:12,532 --> 00:37:14,472
and I knew about a white van
673
00:37:14,632 --> 00:37:16,733
that had tickets against it
674
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:19,800
speeding tickets, parking tickets
that type of thing
675
00:37:20,333 --> 00:37:21,873
that had come in from the DVLC.
676
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,570
I stressed right away to my brother.
677
00:37:23,699 --> 00:37:26,000
'I think we've got this guy called Levi'
678
00:37:29,067 --> 00:37:31,697
The dealer had seen the vehicle recently
679
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,570
and what he had seen was that the
back of the vehicle has changed.
680
00:37:35,699 --> 00:37:39,000
He said, 'there is something distinctive
about this white van, Dave'.
681
00:37:39,166 --> 00:37:40,967
On the back of the van
682
00:37:41,099 --> 00:37:42,869
low down on both doors
683
00:37:43,032 --> 00:37:44,773
are welded two metal plates.
684
00:37:45,532 --> 00:37:47,702
My memory of watching the CCTV
685
00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:50,873
was that there was something
on the back of the van
686
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,599
that stood out, you couldn't recognise i
687
00:37:52,733 --> 00:37:55,233
as metal plates initially, unless you kn
you wouldn't
688
00:37:55,699 --> 00:37:57,300
actually say it was metal plates.
689
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:00,699
But there was something distinctive
about it that glared in the camera.
690
00:38:00,833 --> 00:38:06,072
Then the other thing he noticed, he said
glass panels on the back had been painte
691
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,929
This made that
vehicle in particular, unique.
692
00:38:09,166 --> 00:38:13,467
More importantly now matched exactly wha
was on the CCTV.
693
00:38:13,766 --> 00:38:19,297
So, to my mind at that stage then, I kne
that we were dealing with Levi Bellfield
694
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:23,469
The van matched the description absolute
bang on.
695
00:38:23,867 --> 00:38:28,666
The research that goes into that vehicle
straight away is enormous
696
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,130
everywhere it's been
697
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:31,367
every camera it's done
698
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:33,630
speeding offenses on the M25
699
00:38:33,833 --> 00:38:35,132
bus lanes in Twickenham.
700
00:38:36,632 --> 00:38:39,202
\We do an intelligence che
701
00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:42,103
on Levi Bellfield then,
to see what was known about him.
702
00:38:42,233 --> 00:38:44,032
He had relatively few
703
00:38:44,367 --> 00:38:47,126
previous convictions,
quite a lot of intelligence
704
00:38:47,266 --> 00:38:51,666
because getting into scrapes and always
getting stopped by police and doing thes
705
00:38:52,132 --> 00:38:57,172
one of those scrapes was that in May 200
706
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,400
he was arrested for
abducting a pub landlord
707
00:39:00,632 --> 00:39:04,432
and no charges reported, he was never co
of anything or indeed charged with it.
708
00:39:05,367 --> 00:39:06,867
But the important thing was
709
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,769
that it said that he was arrested
for abducting this man
710
00:39:10,099 --> 00:39:12,300
in a Toyota Previa.
711
00:39:12,967 --> 00:39:16,766
I gave the registration number
that was in this report to Tracy
712
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:21,900
one of our researchers and said 'can you
on the computer to see what color this v
713
00:39:22,032 --> 00:39:25,532
Because if it's white, I think it could
be something to do with Kate Sheedy.
714
00:39:26,266 --> 00:39:27,367
And she came back
715
00:39:28,233 --> 00:39:30,675
two minutes later and said 'governor
I think we've hit the jackpot'.
716
00:39:30,699 --> 00:39:34,769
What we've then got is Levi Bellfield
involved with a white Ford Courier van
717
00:39:35,032 --> 00:39:36,632
of exactly the type
718
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:41,199
that we know was 70 yards away from wher
Amelie died while she was being murdered
719
00:39:41,833 --> 00:39:45,003
And we know that Levi Bellfield had
a white Toyota Previa
720
00:39:45,733 --> 00:39:49,603
at exactly the time that such
a vehicle run over Kate Sheedy.
721
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:54,030
From that moment onwards,
we had our suspect.
722
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,733
It's the 11th of November 2004.
723
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:16,030
I'm looking through my Levi Bellfield
intelligence print-out
724
00:40:17,032 --> 00:40:19,972
and I see that in March 2002
725
00:40:20,099 --> 00:40:27,030
he's shown on that as living at
Collingwood Place in Walton on Thames.
726
00:40:27,233 --> 00:40:31,172
But I think if he's got connections
in Walton on Thames
727
00:40:31,333 --> 00:40:34,172
that's probably why he fled there after
he murdered Amelie.
728
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,829
Let's have a look at where this place he
used to live is.
729
00:40:37,032 --> 00:40:40,833
So, I'm expecting this place to be close
river close to where the phone was switc
730
00:40:41,733 --> 00:40:45,003
Instead, I find that it's the other side
of town it's right by the railway statio
731
00:40:45,132 --> 00:40:46,572
Of course, I knew
732
00:40:47,032 --> 00:40:52,902
'hang on, that's exactly where
Millie Dowler was abducted in 2002'.
733
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:57,570
There was a certain amount of interest
from both the media
734
00:40:57,699 --> 00:40:59,500
but also from local people in Walton
735
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,869
as to whether or not there was any
connection between what we was doing
736
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,469
and Millie Dowler.
737
00:41:05,099 --> 00:41:09,130
We had no reason to think
that it was connected because
738
00:41:09,367 --> 00:41:12,266
abducting and murdering a 13-year-old gi
739
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,300
is a very different crime
740
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,869
to randomly attacking
741
00:41:18,567 --> 00:41:20,666
adult women by hitting them
on the back of the head.
742
00:41:20,833 --> 00:41:22,873
Millie was on her way home
from school on the train
743
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,900
and instead of getting off at Hersham
744
00:41:25,132 --> 00:41:26,902
she stayed an extra stop
745
00:41:27,166 --> 00:41:30,097
to go and get some chips here
at Walton on Thames, with her friends.
746
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,170
When she had her chips
747
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:35,000
she crossed over
and was walking on this pavement.
748
00:41:35,632 --> 00:41:37,773
A friend of hers was at
the bus stop behind me
749
00:41:38,166 --> 00:41:40,166
and she saw Milly walk past the bus stop
750
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:44,030
but Milly couldn't get on the bus, she d
any money so she was going to have to wa
751
00:41:44,166 --> 00:41:46,166
At that time
752
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:49,929
there was a building across the road wit
CCTV cameras on its corners
753
00:41:50,367 --> 00:41:53,367
and they would have captured Millie if
she had walked past the building
754
00:41:53,532 --> 00:41:54,572
however they didn't.
755
00:41:55,132 --> 00:41:57,802
So, what we know is somewhere
between that bus stop
756
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,769
and this spot here,
Millie Dowler was abducted.
757
00:42:03,967 --> 00:42:07,166
It wasn't until September 2002 that.
758
00:42:07,867 --> 00:42:12,226
Millie's body was found by two
people going to pick mushrooms
759
00:42:12,367 --> 00:42:16,067
in the woods near Yately, in Hampshire.
760
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,130
Surrey Police had been
combing their county
761
00:42:20,632 --> 00:42:22,702
for six months almost to the day
762
00:42:22,932 --> 00:42:24,603
and not found Millie Dowler.
763
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,869
It was here in Yately Heath Woods in Ham
some 25 miles from where she was abducte
764
00:42:30,432 --> 00:42:32,172
that she was eventually found.
765
00:42:32,532 --> 00:42:34,972
There wasn't much to be
told from Millie's body
766
00:42:35,099 --> 00:42:36,769
and the post-mortem examination
767
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:40,269
she'd been in the open for six months an
there had been certain animal activity.
768
00:42:41,233 --> 00:42:45,302
She was in the undergrowth, she hadn't b
she had just been sort of lightly concea
769
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,670
This was an area with which Bellfield
was very familiar
770
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,530
just down the road there's an arena wher
he accompanied his former partner.
771
00:42:53,666 --> 00:42:58,396
Joanna Collins on many occasions when
she bought her horses here to show-jump.
772
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:03,170
We still don't know to this
day how she met her death.
773
00:43:03,967 --> 00:43:07,067
The only thing of which the
pathologists could be certain
774
00:43:07,532 --> 00:43:10,802
was that she hadn't suffered a severe bl
to the head
775
00:43:11,132 --> 00:43:13,373
in the manner of his other victims.
776
00:43:15,067 --> 00:43:17,726
Millie didn't die
from being battered with a hammer
777
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,699
the most likely explanation is, I think
that she was strangled
778
00:43:21,833 --> 00:43:24,702
but there was a difference between
779
00:43:25,233 --> 00:43:27,233
being murdered in that fashion
780
00:43:27,932 --> 00:43:31,032
and young women who...
781
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:35,469
early twenties, Amelie was
22, Marsha was 19.
782
00:43:37,067 --> 00:43:38,266
At that point, really
783
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,199
the investigation was no closer to
784
00:43:40,333 --> 00:43:44,572
finding out who did it, than they were s
previously the day after she went missin
785
00:43:44,733 --> 00:43:46,532
Any murder case
786
00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:50,297
no matter who it is, no matter where, th
background you will work hard to get to
787
00:43:50,432 --> 00:43:54,873
We just get on with it, do what we're
meant to do as thoroughly as we can.
788
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,869
If we do that and we do that right
789
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,429
99 times out of 100, we will solve it.
790
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,730
I realised that Levi Bellfield was
791
00:44:02,867 --> 00:44:04,867
far more of a complex character
792
00:44:05,099 --> 00:44:06,800
than just somebody
793
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,329
who hit women on the back of the head.
794
00:44:09,766 --> 00:44:11,697
Bellfield was also a paedophile
795
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:16,199
who sexually assaulted
and abused young girls.
796
00:44:16,333 --> 00:44:18,972
The more we got
to know about Levi Bellfield
797
00:44:19,099 --> 00:44:21,429
the more appalling his lifestyle appeare
798
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:24,099
Bellfield had a 16-year-old girlfriend
799
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:27,300
in addition to his partner, Emma Mills.
800
00:44:27,432 --> 00:44:31,132
He had a flat in Hanworth which was know
as the raping room
801
00:44:31,367 --> 00:44:33,126
where he and
802
00:44:33,367 --> 00:44:35,726
a group of vile individuals
803
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:39,469
some of whom worked with him on
his wheel-clamping business
804
00:44:39,967 --> 00:44:41,327
would take young girls.
805
00:44:41,467 --> 00:44:44,126
But he was also
into supplying and selling drugs
806
00:44:44,266 --> 00:44:46,527
he beats everybody
807
00:44:47,067 --> 00:44:50,197
he's ever lived with,
every relationship he's had.
808
00:44:50,333 --> 00:44:53,003
People who he could easily intimidate
809
00:44:53,733 --> 00:44:56,702
pay a pittance and exploit.
810
00:44:57,766 --> 00:45:02,967
One of these guys, Peter Rodriguez, work
with him Bellfield exploits to such a de
811
00:45:03,432 --> 00:45:07,733
he not only stores drugs at the man's
mothers flat while she was in hospital
812
00:45:07,967 --> 00:45:10,067
but he gets his 16-year-old girlfriend
813
00:45:10,699 --> 00:45:12,630
to groom a 14-year-old
814
00:45:12,766 --> 00:45:16,467
who he then takes to that
flat, gives drugs to her
815
00:45:17,132 --> 00:45:18,802
and she's raped by him and his friends.
816
00:45:18,932 --> 00:45:23,902
Rodriguez obviously put up an objection
one day to Bellfield's conduct.
817
00:45:24,032 --> 00:45:25,672
Bellfield didn't like it
818
00:45:25,932 --> 00:45:28,072
and as Rodriguez left the flat.
819
00:45:28,467 --> 00:45:31,626
Bellfield carried out a hammer attack.
820
00:45:32,067 --> 00:45:36,126
Rodriguez, I think died three times
on the operating table
821
00:45:36,266 --> 00:45:41,797
he spent a long time in hospital
recovering from his injuries.
822
00:45:42,367 --> 00:45:44,697
When he finally came round, Rodriguez sa
823
00:45:45,266 --> 00:45:47,347
'the last thing I remember
before the lights went out
824
00:45:47,432 --> 00:45:50,672
was Levi Bellfield was coming towards
me with a mallet in his hand'.
825
00:45:51,132 --> 00:45:53,532
Bellfield had been
arrested for that attack
826
00:45:54,067 --> 00:45:57,496
but bailed because there wasn't
sufficient evidence.
827
00:45:58,032 --> 00:46:00,472
This was six weeks before Amelie died.
828
00:46:01,067 --> 00:46:02,396
I was also mindful that
829
00:46:02,532 --> 00:46:05,503
we now knew who he was and if he murdere
somebody else
830
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,269
we needed to be in the position to say
831
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,929
that we've done what we could to keep
the public of South-West London safe.
832
00:46:12,067 --> 00:46:16,327
I genuinely believed that he was such
a danger to the public
833
00:46:17,333 --> 00:46:23,532
that the odds were that he was going to
attack again and it was going to be soon
834
00:46:24,967 --> 00:46:28,666
I really wanted to lock him up
the day after we identified him
835
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:30,800
I'd have been happy to arrest him then.
836
00:46:31,532 --> 00:46:34,833
I was persuaded otherwise
from some very senior
837
00:46:35,099 --> 00:46:39,099
officers in the Met, who thought that we
could put surveillance behind him.
838
00:46:39,233 --> 00:46:41,032
After, kind of myself
839
00:46:41,166 --> 00:46:46,297
and my brother Dave joined the dots,
if you like between vehicle and suspect.
840
00:46:46,432 --> 00:46:48,503
We went into a surveillance stage
841
00:46:48,632 --> 00:46:50,603
where we were
842
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:54,300
you know, looking for
further evidence against him.
843
00:46:54,432 --> 00:46:58,432
From my perspective, I don't think it ch
anything it didn't lead to any extra evi
844
00:46:59,233 --> 00:47:02,273
While we've got
Bellfield under surveillance 24/7
845
00:47:02,632 --> 00:47:05,302
team behind him, watching his every move
846
00:47:05,532 --> 00:47:10,702
It's a Sunday afternoon, he's in Uxbridg
in West London with a friend.
847
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:12,599
There were two girls, and they
848
00:47:12,967 --> 00:47:14,327
were waiting at a bus stop.
849
00:47:14,699 --> 00:47:19,400
Bellfield drives past, sees them, gets
out and engages in conversation with the
850
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:21,829
and the surveillance
team was watching this
851
00:47:22,166 --> 00:47:23,867
and they're so close to intervening
852
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,670
with this because they don't like what's
happening with these two young teenage g
853
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:31,630
And then a bus comes, the bus comes alon
and the girls get on it
854
00:47:31,766 --> 00:47:36,126
and Bellfield waves them off with a chee
sort of abusive, calls them something.
855
00:47:37,166 --> 00:47:39,027
And they go away on the
bus and he drives off.
856
00:47:39,632 --> 00:47:43,702
So, the surveillance team do absolutely
the right thing, the peel off one car
857
00:47:44,099 --> 00:47:47,469
that follows the bus, the rest of them
stay with Bellfield.
858
00:47:48,067 --> 00:47:51,797
And when these two girls got off the bus
the police officers introduced themselve
859
00:47:52,099 --> 00:47:56,269
and they said that he got out and asked
how old they were, they told him they we
860
00:47:56,567 --> 00:47:59,067
he said 'you're nice and young then
I like them young' and
861
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:01,670
made suggestions to them of that nature.
862
00:48:01,833 --> 00:48:03,672
So, we've got here
863
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,630
a man who preys on
864
00:48:05,766 --> 00:48:09,226
women who have just been
on buses or at bus stops.
865
00:48:10,032 --> 00:48:14,032
Amelie Delagrange, Kate
Sheedy, Marsha McDonnell
866
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,599
all just got off a bus and here he
is, at a bus stop
867
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,800
chatting up two 14-year-old girls
and not chatting them up nicely
868
00:48:25,099 --> 00:48:29,730
but they are 14 year-old-girls and he
is making suggestive sexual comments to.
869
00:48:32,233 --> 00:48:35,003
Apart from the bus stop
incident with the girls
870
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,570
somebody else came forward to
us as well and said 'my nanny
871
00:48:38,699 --> 00:48:42,130
was attacked near Twickenham
Green a few years ago'.
872
00:48:43,032 --> 00:48:47,373
We were able to trace that
incident and verify it
873
00:48:47,833 --> 00:48:50,902
from the triage records at
the local hospital which said
874
00:48:51,432 --> 00:48:54,202
'the woman called Sonia
Salvatierra who was
875
00:48:54,333 --> 00:48:57,572
a Peruvian national had
gone in there reporting
876
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,329
discomfort and a bit of a sore head from
877
00:49:00,699 --> 00:49:02,900
being knocked over and
having her phone stolen.
878
00:49:03,032 --> 00:49:06,273
And we made contact in Peru with Sonia a
she said 'yeah I remember the man'
879
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,670
she described this man with a round face
880
00:49:08,833 --> 00:49:14,202
a fat man and no neck and all the things
that sounded very much like Bellfield
881
00:49:14,766 --> 00:49:20,027
so to me, this was going to be our kind
charge I thought that would work, if we
882
00:49:20,166 --> 00:49:22,097
we could get Sonia back over here
883
00:49:22,233 --> 00:49:23,333
from Peru
884
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,170
put Bellfield on an ID
parade, she picks him out
885
00:49:26,766 --> 00:49:28,097
we charge him with that
886
00:49:28,367 --> 00:49:31,266
serious assault he's remanded in custody
and that takes the pressure off.
887
00:49:31,432 --> 00:49:35,833
So, that was the plan we were going to a
we were gonna arrest him for Amelie's mu
888
00:49:36,266 --> 00:49:37,827
attempting to murder Kate
889
00:49:38,532 --> 00:49:42,632
and for an assault and robbery on
Sonia Salvatierra.
890
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,369
That was when we had the bombshell
891
00:49:47,867 --> 00:49:49,867
that the News of the World had found out
892
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,230
that we had a man on surveillance
893
00:49:52,666 --> 00:49:54,467
and they were going to run with the stor
894
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,630
two days before we had this
895
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:58,800
huge plan in place to arrest him.
896
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,469
Bellfield would have wind of us
897
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:03,030
the best we could do was try to negotiat
898
00:50:03,166 --> 00:50:05,467
with the News of the
World and we negotiated
899
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:08,170
that they would be able to send a report
and a photographer along
900
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:10,570
on the day of the arrest with the provis
901
00:50:10,833 --> 00:50:13,003
that they never printed
it and never published
902
00:50:13,132 --> 00:50:15,032
the story until after the trial.
903
00:50:15,166 --> 00:50:17,827
I've never actually found out who
904
00:50:18,467 --> 00:50:21,367
leaked the story of the surveillance
905
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:25,369
to them but the two things I've been ass
of is one, that it wasn't anybody from m
906
00:50:25,733 --> 00:50:27,932
and two, there was nothing to do with an
phone hacking
907
00:50:29,099 --> 00:50:34,329
and the steer that I've had is that I sh
looking at the higher floors at Scotland
908
00:50:41,932 --> 00:50:43,632
Once the decision is made to arrest
909
00:50:43,766 --> 00:50:45,297
we would divide into two teams.
910
00:50:45,432 --> 00:50:49,172
The arrest team that went to Bellfield's
address in West Drayton
911
00:50:49,532 --> 00:50:51,932
would have entered the house quickly
912
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,300
and effected a search of the property
913
00:50:55,532 --> 00:50:58,702
and the surrounding sort of gardens etc.
914
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:01,800
Initially they couldn't find him, he was
nowhere to be seen.
915
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,670
And then was an identification
916
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:09,170
for his partner Emma,
that he was in the loft.
917
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:10,929
It took them quite some time
918
00:51:11,166 --> 00:51:13,867
to find him hiding in his loft, as he wa
919
00:51:14,367 --> 00:51:17,427
stark naked and eventually
brought him out.
920
00:51:17,967 --> 00:51:19,527
Colin then rang me at home
921
00:51:19,666 --> 00:51:21,643
I remember the phone call,
he said, 'I want you to do
922
00:51:21,666 --> 00:51:24,527
the following interviews with him
over the next few days.
923
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:26,969
So, my reply to him was, 'Boss
924
00:51:27,099 --> 00:51:29,300
I'm not sure that's a great idea
925
00:51:29,432 --> 00:51:32,443
with the greatest respect, I'm sure some
else could do it'. But he was quite adam
926
00:51:32,467 --> 00:51:34,306
as much as he was a nice
guy and very laid back
927
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,269
when he made a decision, he meant it.
928
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,170
He was very firm about it and said
929
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:41,800
'no, I want you to do it, I want you to
interview and Dave, don't worry about it
930
00:51:45,432 --> 00:51:47,103
At first he was
931
00:51:47,699 --> 00:51:50,329
talking to us and making denials
932
00:51:50,467 --> 00:51:53,726
but he was represented by
a solicitor that he knew
933
00:51:53,867 --> 00:51:54,927
that he asked for.
934
00:51:55,632 --> 00:51:57,733
The difficulty came that when
935
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,670
we started to investigate him also for
936
00:52:01,266 --> 00:52:03,927
rape and abuse of his former partners
937
00:52:04,266 --> 00:52:08,697
this solicitor had represented one of th
partners in domestic violence proceeding
938
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,469
So, they had a conflict of interest
and had to withdraw
939
00:52:12,233 --> 00:52:15,202
the duty solicitor then took over
940
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:19,130
and the duty solicitor advised him
to make no comment.
941
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,429
So, for most of the
942
00:52:21,567 --> 00:52:24,666
hours of interviews we did
with Bellfield thereafter
943
00:52:24,967 --> 00:52:26,827
he would say 'no comment'.
944
00:52:45,666 --> 00:52:46,666
To be honest
945
00:52:46,699 --> 00:52:48,929
I'd seen that type of interview many tim
946
00:52:49,067 --> 00:52:51,967
and in those days, we got a lot
of 'no comment' interviews.
947
00:52:52,132 --> 00:52:54,373
We still have to cover a lot of question
948
00:53:04,233 --> 00:53:07,532
If they don't say something in the
interview that they later rely on in cou
949
00:53:07,666 --> 00:53:10,226
then it becomes relevant, or could becom
relevant for the jury.
950
00:53:10,367 --> 00:53:13,242
If you've hit something he was really
uncomfortable with and he knew he was
951
00:53:13,266 --> 00:53:18,327
then he couldn't face it, he couldn't fa
and he couldn't face what was coming at
952
00:53:19,032 --> 00:53:25,132
The only time where he would really enga
with us we noticed, was if we showed him
953
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,699
photographs or maps or
some sort of document
954
00:53:29,833 --> 00:53:32,402
then we could kind of
elicit a response from him.
955
00:53:32,567 --> 00:53:35,126
I remember images being
put in front of him
956
00:53:35,467 --> 00:53:37,097
in one session
957
00:53:37,233 --> 00:53:39,003
and him looking away, turning around
958
00:53:39,132 --> 00:53:42,603
looking away from the interviewing team
he turned the photographs over
959
00:53:42,967 --> 00:53:47,996
but when the second and third interviews
put in and the images were put there aga
960
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,130
and he tried the same tact
961
00:53:50,532 --> 00:53:52,532
the interviewing officer
had put them on the back
962
00:53:52,867 --> 00:53:55,166
so as he turns the image over,
the image is still there.
963
00:53:55,367 --> 00:53:58,067
It's not about playing tricks, it's abou
964
00:53:58,567 --> 00:54:00,867
'face up to what you've done,
this is what you've done'
965
00:54:01,467 --> 00:54:03,666
and he obviously
966
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,829
he's not somebody who could do that.
967
00:54:06,032 --> 00:54:09,373
But he had this rather curious way
of doing it where he would talk to us
968
00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:13,570
just every now and then and then realize
he was meant to not be saying
969
00:54:13,699 --> 00:54:14,730
anything and say...
970
00:54:21,967 --> 00:54:24,367
Sonia Salvatierra, the Peruvian nanny
971
00:54:24,532 --> 00:54:26,503
was flown over from Lima
972
00:54:26,699 --> 00:54:29,000
and she was taken to do an ID procedure
973
00:54:29,266 --> 00:54:33,266
and despite her confidently saying 'yes
recognize him again', she didn't pick hi
974
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,469
That was a major blow to me at the time
975
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:38,409
because my confidence was high that
she would pick him out of the ID parade
976
00:54:38,432 --> 00:54:40,172
charge him with that assault
977
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:43,500
and that would be our holding charge
to make sure he was in custody.
978
00:54:43,932 --> 00:54:46,172
We had the very real prospect of
979
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:48,030
having to release him on bail
980
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:53,000
such was the fear of him
within the Metropolitan Police
981
00:54:53,266 --> 00:54:55,697
that there was arrangements in place, if
982
00:54:55,833 --> 00:54:57,572
he had been bailed
983
00:54:57,867 --> 00:55:01,266
he would have been followed
by 24/7 surveillance.
984
00:55:01,733 --> 00:55:04,432
Until there was some reason to
take him back into custody again.
985
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:06,429
While Bellfield was at
Heathrow police station
986
00:55:06,567 --> 00:55:11,097
I had two of my officers who were traine
liaison officers talking to his partner,
987
00:55:11,233 --> 00:55:14,233
It was clear that she had endured
988
00:55:14,432 --> 00:55:18,032
10 years of a desperately oppressive
989
00:55:18,666 --> 00:55:21,626
coercive and violent
relationship with this man
990
00:55:22,032 --> 00:55:24,032
but she was so frightened of him
991
00:55:24,333 --> 00:55:28,032
that she wouldn't do anything about it
'If he locks me in the house
992
00:55:28,367 --> 00:55:30,067
he won't let me go out, so
993
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:33,929
I can't have my own money, I can't have
own phone other than with his number in
994
00:55:34,666 --> 00:55:39,027
And then she talks about how often she h
been assaulted and sexually assaulted by
995
00:55:39,532 --> 00:55:41,273
and then told us.
996
00:55:41,432 --> 00:55:44,175
'I'm not the only one, because there wer
other women who he's lived with in the p
997
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:46,175
and they will tell you that
he did the same to them'.
998
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:48,599
If he was going to go to prison
999
00:55:48,867 --> 00:55:51,266
for a long time or forever
1000
00:55:51,666 --> 00:55:53,266
then this was her chance to escape.
1001
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,869
We had an awful lot of support
1002
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,599
from his ex-partners
1003
00:55:56,733 --> 00:55:58,702
in particular, Emma and Jo.
1004
00:55:59,132 --> 00:56:01,733
Jo gave us a really strong statement abo
1005
00:56:01,867 --> 00:56:03,797
some of the abuse she'd
suffered at his hands
1006
00:56:03,932 --> 00:56:06,472
and that gave us a real
strength of evidence to
1007
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:09,769
charge Bellfield with a variety
of offenses but in particular
1008
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:12,730
serious offenses that
would keep him in custody.
1009
00:56:13,367 --> 00:56:16,697
And that provided us nine
charges, serious charges
1010
00:56:17,233 --> 00:56:20,632
that eventually were the holding charges
against Levi Bellfield.
1011
00:56:20,766 --> 00:56:22,726
Those nine offenses on that indictment
1012
00:56:22,867 --> 00:56:25,626
have never been tried before a
court, never will be now.
1013
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:28,829
It's the mark of the man and his
1014
00:56:29,166 --> 00:56:32,567
kind of level of
offending, that something...
1015
00:56:32,699 --> 00:56:36,800
an indictment that would be very serious
in any other circumstances
1016
00:56:37,233 --> 00:56:38,402
has just been left on file
1017
00:56:38,532 --> 00:56:41,902
because in the context
of what else he's done
1018
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:44,400
it's kind of not as important.
1019
00:56:47,932 --> 00:56:50,072
There is no doubt that Levi Bellfield wa
1020
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:54,300
an intelligent man, not an educated man
but he was street smart.
1021
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:56,369
Where he made a mistake in
1022
00:56:56,500 --> 00:57:00,130
the Amelie Delagrange case was
at Twickenham Green.
1023
00:57:00,532 --> 00:57:03,773
He didn't know that just weeks before
he had attacked Amelie
1024
00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:07,699
the bus garage at Fullwell had fitted CC
to all of its buses
1025
00:57:07,833 --> 00:57:10,202
which recorded onto hard
drives rather than tape
1026
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:12,929
the time stamp on the footage
1027
00:57:13,067 --> 00:57:14,766
was from the atomic clock
1028
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:18,929
each bus had either six or eight cameras
facing inside and outside.
1029
00:57:19,166 --> 00:57:21,726
Both of the roads,
either side of Twickenham Green
1030
00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:22,896
had bus routes on them.
1031
00:57:23,032 --> 00:57:25,733
So in plotting what he was doing
1032
00:57:25,932 --> 00:57:27,833
cruising around, hunting in his van
1033
00:57:28,166 --> 00:57:34,197
and plotting how Amelie had walked back
from the bus garage to Twickenham Green
1034
00:57:35,099 --> 00:57:36,929
and putting the two together
1035
00:57:37,099 --> 00:57:39,369
and working out for certain that Bellfie
1036
00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:42,329
had passed her and probably
stopped to speak to her
1037
00:57:42,532 --> 00:57:44,873
all of this CCTV was invaluable.
1038
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,429
We were then able to
1039
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:48,400
spend real time and real resources
1040
00:57:48,532 --> 00:57:51,532
bringing together the other offenses
that we think he is involved in.
1041
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,769
The first one was Kate Sheedy.
1042
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:56,269
It doesn't look quite right
1043
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,570
because it's slightly out of the area an
the weapon is a car.
1044
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:03,130
So, initially we were working out
1045
00:58:03,532 --> 00:58:05,833
'well is it or isn't it
potentially one of ours?'
1046
00:58:05,967 --> 00:58:09,496
Kate was able to explain that the vehicl
that hit her
1047
00:58:09,666 --> 00:58:11,896
was some kind of people carrier and
that it was white.
1048
00:58:12,032 --> 00:58:14,233
Levi Bellfield, who at the time, provabl
1049
00:58:14,367 --> 00:58:16,126
was driving a white.
1050
00:58:16,266 --> 00:58:18,527
Toyota Previa people carrier with
blacked out windows.
1051
00:58:18,666 --> 00:58:20,766
So, the vehicle fitted exactly
1052
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,730
the description Kate Sheedy had given
1053
00:58:22,867 --> 00:58:24,697
of the vehicle that ran her over.
1054
00:58:24,833 --> 00:58:28,103
We went and retrieved that so we could
examine it forensically
1055
00:58:28,233 --> 00:58:31,032
it had been professionally
steam cleaned, valeted
1056
00:58:31,166 --> 00:58:32,967
top and bottom, inside and out.
1057
00:58:33,233 --> 00:58:38,532
So, there was no forensic material on th
at all to associate it with Kate Sheedy.
1058
00:58:38,666 --> 00:58:42,297
However, what it did have was a defectiv
drivers mirror
1059
00:58:42,833 --> 00:58:46,902
and that was something that she had
noted on the vehicle that ran her over.
1060
00:58:47,032 --> 00:58:50,432
So, it was pretty likely, we thought,
that it was Bellfield's vehicle
1061
00:58:50,567 --> 00:58:53,367
it fitted everything with Kate Sheedy
So, I said 'Yes, ok, let's
1062
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:54,800
we should take that on'
1063
00:58:55,032 --> 00:58:58,873
and that was when we realised
that there was a bag of CCTV tape
1064
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,530
from a nearby pub
1065
00:59:00,766 --> 00:59:02,567
that had never been looked at.
1066
00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:05,130
It was a simple error
1067
00:59:05,333 --> 00:59:09,202
human error from the original
investigating team in Hounslow borough.
1068
00:59:09,333 --> 00:59:11,902
Although CCTV had been
recovered by local police
1069
00:59:12,266 --> 00:59:13,896
they hadn't got the resources to view it
1070
00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:15,769
in as much detail as us.
1071
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:19,230
Two lots of tapes had been seized
1072
00:59:19,666 --> 00:59:21,266
because the offense was just near midnig
1073
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:24,000
and it was a bit confusing what days tap
they needed
1074
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,329
and somebody had viewed one but not
realised there was a second bag.
1075
00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:30,170
When we opened that bag
and put it in the machine
1076
00:59:30,467 --> 00:59:32,367
we could see the Toyota Previa
1077
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,300
driving, stalking the bus on
which Kate Sheedy was riding.
1078
00:59:37,432 --> 00:59:39,472
As the bus pulled in to let her off
1079
00:59:39,733 --> 00:59:42,472
the Previa overtakes it
and parks in front of it.
1080
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:47,230
What the CCTV does is tell him exactly
what it is and it was a Toyota Previa.
1081
00:59:47,367 --> 00:59:49,197
A Toyota Previa that was white
1082
00:59:49,567 --> 00:59:51,126
had unique features about it.
1083
00:59:52,099 --> 00:59:53,500
We see the Previa
1084
00:59:53,632 --> 00:59:56,202
going in the other direction,
back past the pub on the CCTV.
1085
00:59:56,733 --> 00:59:58,032
We can't get a number plate
1086
00:59:58,166 --> 01:00:00,666
it's dark and it's not
particularly good footage
1087
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,670
but what we can see is
that there is a mark
1088
01:00:05,132 --> 01:00:07,802
an irregular shaped sort of stain
1089
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:11,769
by the petrol filler as
the Previa drives away
1090
01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:13,269
after the attack.
1091
01:00:13,532 --> 01:00:15,132
Then I look at the photographs
1092
01:00:15,266 --> 01:00:18,226
the good quality photographs we've taken
of the Previa we've seized
1093
01:00:18,833 --> 01:00:20,172
and there's that stain visible.
1094
01:00:20,766 --> 01:00:24,266
It kind of corresponded so much that
we could get expert
1095
01:00:24,733 --> 01:00:26,432
video analysis done to say
1096
01:00:26,733 --> 01:00:28,373
'yes, that's the same vehicle'.
1097
01:00:28,833 --> 01:00:35,873
I realised immediately that had that CCT
been viewed immediately after Kate's ass
1098
01:00:36,766 --> 01:00:39,697
Levi Bellfield's name would have come ou
of the official inquiries.
1099
01:00:41,967 --> 01:00:44,626
Just a few days before Kate was run over
1100
01:00:44,932 --> 01:00:47,233
he was arrested for a what
he described as a prank
1101
01:00:47,367 --> 01:00:50,467
where he'd kidnapped a pub landlord
it never went anywhere
1102
01:00:50,833 --> 01:00:52,532
but the intelligence report was there.
1103
01:00:52,733 --> 01:00:55,172
So, as soon as somebody saw that CCTV
1104
01:00:55,367 --> 01:00:57,266
somebody would've
identified it as the Previa
1105
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,530
very distinctive vehicle, then we'd
go to the intelligence computer
1106
01:01:00,766 --> 01:01:02,766
and Levi Bellfield's
name would've popped out.
1107
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,670
One of the lines of
inquiry that we went down
1108
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,429
involved a mobile phone that was
in the possession of.
1109
01:01:11,699 --> 01:01:13,429
Bellfield's 16-year-old girlfriend.
1110
01:01:13,632 --> 01:01:17,902
She and her 14-year-old-sister were
in the flat that Bellfield
1111
01:01:18,032 --> 01:01:20,972
had sort of illegally sub-rented
from somebody else
1112
01:01:21,099 --> 01:01:24,599
and they were taking lots and lots
of clips of themselves doing things
1113
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:27,570
while they were getting drunk, dancing
and this sort of thing.
1114
01:01:28,266 --> 01:01:31,266
About 1 o'clock in the morning, Bellfiel
comes into the flat
1115
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,730
and the girls take a video of him.
1116
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:36,869
He's wearing an outdoor coat/jacket
1117
01:01:37,132 --> 01:01:40,172
and what he does is he comes
in and he finds a torch
1118
01:01:40,833 --> 01:01:42,833
and he picks it up and switches it on
1119
01:01:43,067 --> 01:01:47,266
and you see his face illuminate, he's ch
see if it works switches it off again an
1120
01:01:47,432 --> 01:01:49,672
But the significance of this is that
1121
01:01:50,666 --> 01:01:52,597
just 40 minutes before.
1122
01:01:53,132 --> 01:01:57,233
Kate Sheedy had been run over by a Previ
1123
01:01:57,467 --> 01:01:58,967
What this very much looked like
1124
01:01:59,099 --> 01:02:01,769
was somebody coming in, getting a torch
1125
01:02:02,032 --> 01:02:04,932
because they wanted to go back out
and check their vehicle
1126
01:02:05,333 --> 01:02:07,172
to see if there was any damage.
1127
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:10,500
It certainly showed that Bellfield could
he was in the flat at the time it happen
1128
01:02:10,567 --> 01:02:15,626
The problem we've got is that we know th
the time stamp on the video is questiona
1129
01:02:15,766 --> 01:02:18,166
it depends on how the phone was set up
and there was some
1130
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:21,199
sound in the back ground and
it sounded like it was music
1131
01:02:21,367 --> 01:02:22,996
somebody on the team said
1132
01:02:23,567 --> 01:02:26,967
'that's not a pop song, that's a
theme song it's wheel of fortune'
1133
01:02:28,233 --> 01:02:31,873
so, what we were then able to do
was go back to that broadcaster
1134
01:02:32,233 --> 01:02:34,273
and say, 'can you help us at all?'
1135
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,929
and they were able to look at their
records and give us a really accurate
1136
01:02:38,067 --> 01:02:41,527
to the second, time when they
thought that clip had been recorded.
1137
01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:45,126
Now, we can't say for certain
that he would have been charged
1138
01:02:45,266 --> 01:02:46,867
with trying to murder Kate
1139
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,769
but obviously there is
a strong possibility
1140
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:51,429
that he wouldn't have been free to murde
Amelie Delagrange.
1141
01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:08,170
I know that Colin
1142
01:03:08,467 --> 01:03:09,766
became quite close with.
1143
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:12,230
Amelie Delagrange's parents.
1144
01:03:12,567 --> 01:03:14,496
He described them as being
1145
01:03:14,699 --> 01:03:17,170
very humble and they were very
1146
01:03:17,432 --> 01:03:20,733
respectful of the police
and the investigation and
1147
01:03:20,867 --> 01:03:23,097
understood that everyone
was doing their best
1148
01:03:23,567 --> 01:03:26,097
in awful circumstances for them.
1149
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,429
The only thing I thought I could do
1150
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:30,869
was to go and see.
1151
01:03:31,432 --> 01:03:35,032
Amelie's parents,
and apologize on behalf of
1152
01:03:35,467 --> 01:03:41,197
my organization, my colleagues that had
let them down.
1153
01:03:41,699 --> 01:03:43,630
And it was obviously going
to be a very personal
1154
01:03:44,166 --> 01:03:47,996
and a kind of emotional conversation
but nevertheless
1155
01:03:48,132 --> 01:03:49,603
one that I knew had to be done.
1156
01:03:49,733 --> 01:03:55,672
I explained all the situation about Kate
the situation with the CCTV.
1157
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,599
I said, 'look, you do understand what
this means? We should have had him
1158
01:04:01,199 --> 01:04:04,869
in custody at some time
before Amelie was murdered'
1159
01:04:05,967 --> 01:04:09,666
and they said, 'yes,
of course we understand we know that
1160
01:04:11,132 --> 01:04:12,503
thank you for telling us
1161
01:04:13,432 --> 01:04:15,809
we thought that you had been honest
with us all the way through this
1162
01:04:15,833 --> 01:04:17,672
and this proves to us that you are
1163
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,170
what has happened has happened
we cannot change the past.
1164
01:04:21,632 --> 01:04:24,733
It's sad, we'd like to change
it, but we know we can't
1165
01:04:25,532 --> 01:04:28,132
now will you 3 come back to dinner
with us tonight here?'.
1166
01:04:28,967 --> 01:04:34,297
And that was it, you know, it was just
the most unexpectedly
1167
01:04:34,666 --> 01:04:38,766
generous but dignified and honorable
1168
01:04:40,067 --> 01:04:42,827
mature approach to what had happened.
1169
01:04:48,766 --> 01:04:50,367
The next case to look at really
1170
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:52,230
was that of Marsha McDonnell.
1171
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,369
There was one line of
inquiry that wasn't resolved
1172
01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:56,469
then yes, again, it was CCTV
1173
01:04:56,599 --> 01:04:59,969
and the bus on which Marsha had gone hom
1174
01:05:00,099 --> 01:05:03,329
and which she had got off of a couple
of minutes before she was attacked.
1175
01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:05,429
We looked at that and
1176
01:05:05,567 --> 01:05:09,797
from the outside camera we could see
that coming towards her was a car
1177
01:05:09,932 --> 01:05:14,472
two seconds after Marsha had gone throug
the doors to get off the bus.
1178
01:05:15,367 --> 01:05:16,766
Then, by using the
1179
01:05:17,233 --> 01:05:21,333
inside cameras on the top deck but
looking out through the windows
1180
01:05:21,632 --> 01:05:23,503
we could see what that car did.
1181
01:05:23,967 --> 01:05:25,967
What it did was it stopped
1182
01:05:26,099 --> 01:05:30,199
slowed down and then stopped in
the crossroads behind the bus.
1183
01:05:31,067 --> 01:05:33,266
Marsha is walking in that direction too
1184
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,869
but the important thing about it was
1185
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,969
that from the front view
1186
01:05:37,266 --> 01:05:41,967
we could almost see a number plate it
was we could almost see a few characters
1187
01:05:42,099 --> 01:05:46,170
popping out a bit, but there was no doub
that the car was a Vauxhall Corsa.
1188
01:05:46,333 --> 01:05:47,672
And one of his vehicles
1189
01:05:47,833 --> 01:05:50,802
one he actually bought on finance
was a silver Vauxhall Corsa.
1190
01:05:51,166 --> 01:05:53,297
Trying to prove that
1191
01:05:53,432 --> 01:05:57,733
particular Corsa was his Vauxhall Corsa
was very difficult.
1192
01:05:57,932 --> 01:06:01,632
The combination of numbers and letters
on the number plate
1193
01:06:01,766 --> 01:06:05,567
of this vehicle that could be seen and
what the experts told us they might be
1194
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:10,670
initially gave us over 600 thousand
possible combinations
1195
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,429
a lot of those possible registrations
weren't on Corsa's
1196
01:06:14,599 --> 01:06:16,969
they were on completely different vehicl
write all them off.
1197
01:06:17,099 --> 01:06:20,300
I said as soon as we get
it down to 200 or lower
1198
01:06:20,432 --> 01:06:23,233
we can go through them
and start eliminating.
1199
01:06:23,532 --> 01:06:27,833
And that's what we did, it took us a lit
time but eventually, we got those all el
1200
01:06:28,132 --> 01:06:30,402
Look at the index
of that silver Vauxhall Corsa
1201
01:06:30,532 --> 01:06:32,773
apply that to the Marsha McDonnell case
1202
01:06:33,166 --> 01:06:34,367
and there he is.
1203
01:06:34,666 --> 01:06:40,166
So, you've now got three separate
murderous attacks on young women
1204
01:06:41,233 --> 01:06:42,972
three vehicles involved
1205
01:06:43,766 --> 01:06:49,226
and each of those vehicles at the time i
identical to one owned by Levi Bellfield
1206
01:06:49,432 --> 01:06:53,032
There is an old, much used phrase
that Detectives don't like coincidences
1207
01:06:53,867 --> 01:06:56,126
and this certainly wasn't looking
like coincidence.
1208
01:06:59,233 --> 01:07:00,773
I was in a position where
1209
01:07:00,900 --> 01:07:04,969
I thought we had a lot of circumstantial
evidence pointing to Levi Bellfield
1210
01:07:05,166 --> 01:07:08,896
but that we could get more from
his friends and acquaintances.
1211
01:07:09,099 --> 01:07:12,329
If first they thought he wasn't
going to come and beat them up
1212
01:07:12,467 --> 01:07:15,097
in other words, if he was going
to go to prison and not be able to
1213
01:07:15,367 --> 01:07:17,367
and secondly, if they understood
1214
01:07:17,632 --> 01:07:19,603
just how much evidence we really had.
1215
01:07:20,032 --> 01:07:23,572
I came up with the idea of using
the vehicle of BBC Crimewatch.
1216
01:07:23,699 --> 01:07:25,030
I'd been on there
1217
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:26,400
with other cases a few times
1218
01:07:26,532 --> 01:07:28,052
and I knew the guy that was the editor
1219
01:07:28,132 --> 01:07:30,208
and I was just honest with him.
I phoned him up and said, 'look
1220
01:07:30,233 --> 01:07:34,003
I want to come on for an appeal about
the murders in South-West London
1221
01:07:34,367 --> 01:07:35,597
asking for information about
1222
01:07:35,733 --> 01:07:37,233
two or three vehicles.
1223
01:07:37,367 --> 01:07:39,467
What I need is for the
public to understand
1224
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:44,329
that we know who was driving it, we've g
vehicles and we know these vehicles were
1225
01:07:44,567 --> 01:07:47,197
because that will make them realize
1226
01:07:47,699 --> 01:07:51,230
that it's our man and come
forward and give evidence'.
1227
01:07:52,032 --> 01:07:53,802
And so, we went on to Crimewatch
1228
01:07:54,199 --> 01:07:57,869
and we showed these pictures of the Prev
and the Corsa and the white.
1229
01:07:58,067 --> 01:07:59,226
Courier van
1230
01:07:59,367 --> 01:08:01,797
and suddenly witnesses
started to come forward
1231
01:08:01,932 --> 01:08:03,432
as a result of that.
1232
01:08:03,567 --> 01:08:06,666
There's a man called Richard Hughes
he was more a friend of Levi's partner
1233
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,929
than Levi himself.
1234
01:08:08,067 --> 01:08:09,996
He told us about him
modifying the white van
1235
01:08:10,132 --> 01:08:13,932
so that they couldn't be seen through
and then cutting a little spy hole
1236
01:08:14,166 --> 01:08:16,296
and he could sit in the back
1237
01:08:16,533 --> 01:08:17,672
and spy out.
1238
01:08:17,832 --> 01:08:19,903
He talks about a blood-stained shirt
1239
01:08:20,033 --> 01:08:23,832
that Bellfield had soon after
the disappearance of Milly Dowler.
1240
01:08:23,966 --> 01:08:25,167
Bellfield said things
1241
01:08:25,300 --> 01:08:27,430
shortly after Marsha's murder, for examp
1242
01:08:27,832 --> 01:08:31,103
'you don't know what I've
done' and things like this.
1243
01:08:31,233 --> 01:08:33,802
So, he was kind of a
really important witness
1244
01:08:33,932 --> 01:08:37,802
that had been close to Bellfield and was
to give us lots of little bits of inform
1245
01:08:37,932 --> 01:08:39,502
There was Joe Ryan, who
1246
01:08:39,632 --> 01:08:41,233
was another acquaintance of Bellfield's
1247
01:08:41,367 --> 01:08:43,226
he'd helped him out with wheel clamping.
1248
01:08:43,367 --> 01:08:48,067
He told us about Bellfield hitting
a kerb with the front nearside wheel
1249
01:08:48,533 --> 01:08:52,132
and because the van at that time had
alloy wheels on it it damaged it so much
1250
01:08:52,466 --> 01:08:53,867
that he had to put a steel
1251
01:08:54,033 --> 01:08:57,733
black wheel on and that was
very visible in the CCTV.
1252
01:08:58,132 --> 01:08:59,672
He also told us about
1253
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,399
the headlights and how the headlight bul
1254
01:09:02,533 --> 01:09:05,472
had gone out on the near
side and Bellfield had
1255
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,899
got some old headlights from a Ford Esco
in his garden at the house.
1256
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:11,930
When we searched Bellfield's
house we found this.
1257
01:09:12,500 --> 01:09:14,800
Ford Escort headlight with the bulbs
missing in the garden
1258
01:09:14,932 --> 01:09:16,903
so it corroborated Joe Ryan's story.
1259
01:09:17,033 --> 01:09:20,073
The other man that came forward that was
really important as a result of this
1260
01:09:20,167 --> 01:09:21,443
was a guy called Simon Redstone.
1261
01:09:21,466 --> 01:09:23,827
He remembers cycling home
1262
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,670
at about 10 o'clock, quarter past 10
the night that Amelie was murdered
1263
01:09:27,867 --> 01:09:29,697
and his statement said
1264
01:09:29,832 --> 01:09:31,832
'he was overtaken by a little white van
1265
01:09:31,966 --> 01:09:33,766
being driven at crazy speed'
1266
01:09:33,932 --> 01:09:37,603
and he kind of tried to memorize the num
although he hadn't got it completely cor
1267
01:09:37,733 --> 01:09:39,632
he'd got enough digits
1268
01:09:39,766 --> 01:09:44,127
accurately to show that it must have bee
Bellfield's van that he was talking abou
1269
01:09:44,266 --> 01:09:46,266
Indeed, when we then went back to
1270
01:09:46,667 --> 01:09:50,997
static CCTV from the Loch Fyne restauran
in Hampton Road
1271
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:55,399
we saw Bellfield's van go past
and then sort of two frames later
1272
01:09:56,367 --> 01:09:59,726
there is Simon Redstone on his bike
so that corroborated that as well.
1273
01:10:01,867 --> 01:10:03,497
We were now able to
1274
01:10:03,699 --> 01:10:06,770
over-lay the path that we knew Amelie
1275
01:10:06,899 --> 01:10:10,130
had taken back from the bus garage
to Twickenham Green
1276
01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:12,670
with the movements of
Bellfield's white van.
1277
01:10:13,399 --> 01:10:14,930
What that showed
1278
01:10:15,067 --> 01:10:19,197
was that as Amelie was walking back up
Hampton Road towards Twickenham Green.
1279
01:10:19,733 --> 01:10:21,573
Bellfield at first was behind her.
1280
01:10:22,332 --> 01:10:26,703
He came out of this side road, I think i
Fourth Cross Road and turned left into H
1281
01:10:27,266 --> 01:10:32,396
and the footage from cameras on buses
show Amelie walking along
1282
01:10:32,733 --> 01:10:35,472
and then the van being behind her.
1283
01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:38,500
Then right up near the green
1284
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:41,630
virtually the last footage that we get
1285
01:10:43,167 --> 01:10:47,197
there is a change and the van
is 62 seconds ahead of Amelie.
1286
01:10:47,332 --> 01:10:52,302
Amelie is on the pavement and the van ha
past 62 seconds or a minute in front of
1287
01:10:53,533 --> 01:10:56,632
But then when we look at Amelie's pace
1288
01:10:57,300 --> 01:10:59,130
she seems to have slowed
down at that point
1289
01:11:00,266 --> 01:11:04,367
and that is exactly the time when the va
would have overtaken her.
1290
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,430
What we deduced from that
1291
01:11:06,567 --> 01:11:09,197
is she didn't actually
slow down her walking
1292
01:11:09,367 --> 01:11:11,197
she was stationary for some while.
1293
01:11:11,432 --> 01:11:15,172
And she was stationary because Levi
Bellfield was also stationary at that po
1294
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,600
propositioning her from
the window of his van.
1295
01:11:19,332 --> 01:11:23,073
That fits in with what we think we know
about why he committed these blitz attac
1296
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:26,329
that he would proposition a woman
1297
01:11:26,466 --> 01:11:31,766
she would decline, and he would then be
triggered by that and go out and assault
1298
01:11:31,899 --> 01:11:35,699
So, what we have not got is
reliable evidence that Bellfield
1299
01:11:35,832 --> 01:11:40,002
had this white van, what we need
then to do is to be able to prove
1300
01:11:40,367 --> 01:11:43,497
that it was him driving it on the
night that Amelie was murdered.
1301
01:11:43,932 --> 01:11:46,332
One of the difficulties was that the sce
1302
01:11:46,466 --> 01:11:48,466
itself on Twickenham Green
1303
01:11:48,699 --> 01:11:52,130
we had not managed to get any forensic
evidence no weapons been found
1304
01:11:52,399 --> 01:11:54,100
the vehicle hadn't been recovered.
1305
01:11:54,432 --> 01:11:56,472
Not for the only time
in this investigation.
1306
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,729
Bellfield's partner, Emma,
came up trumps for us.
1307
01:11:59,932 --> 01:12:01,603
Emma Mills remembered
1308
01:12:01,733 --> 01:12:05,372
the night that Amelie Delagrange
was murdered quite vividly.
1309
01:12:06,132 --> 01:12:08,273
The plan was that he was to pick her up
1310
01:12:08,432 --> 01:12:10,603
so she could go shopping in Tesco's
1311
01:12:11,300 --> 01:12:13,300
but he was late,
and he didn't turn up at home
1312
01:12:13,432 --> 01:12:15,773
so she phoned for a minicab
and came here in that.
1313
01:12:16,067 --> 01:12:18,327
When Bellfield got home and found that
she wasn't there
1314
01:12:18,533 --> 01:12:21,432
he phoned her and asked her where she wa
and she explained
1315
01:12:21,699 --> 01:12:23,430
he said, 'I'll come up and meet you'.
1316
01:12:23,667 --> 01:12:26,096
An important thing is that
he came up to meet her
1317
01:12:26,233 --> 01:12:28,002
in a white ford courier van.
1318
01:12:28,132 --> 01:12:29,372
He drives to Hayes
1319
01:12:29,632 --> 01:12:31,073
goes and meets her in Tesco
1320
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:34,470
he takes the two older children
across the road to Toys'R'Us.
1321
01:12:34,966 --> 01:12:37,027
And there is a few phone calls
1322
01:12:37,167 --> 01:12:38,926
between Bellfield and Emma at the time.
1323
01:12:39,067 --> 01:12:42,096
That's important because it gives us
a time stamp and it gives us the fact
1324
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:43,800
that we know the number
1325
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,829
which of his mobile phones that Bellfiel
was using on that night.
1326
01:12:47,699 --> 01:12:49,600
Emma then told us they left here
1327
01:12:49,733 --> 01:12:51,773
in the white Ford Courier van
1328
01:12:51,899 --> 01:12:55,170
and went home to Little Benty
arriving there just after 9 o'clock.
1329
01:12:56,033 --> 01:12:59,502
She said Bellfield had reversed up the
drive, hadn't even gotten out of the van
1330
01:12:59,699 --> 01:13:02,140
he left her to unload all the shopping
and the three children.
1331
01:13:02,266 --> 01:13:04,067
As soon as the shopping is out of the va
1332
01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:08,100
Bellfield drives off, Emma tells us that
it's about 10 past 9 now.
1333
01:13:09,067 --> 01:13:10,627
A short time after he had driven off
1334
01:13:10,766 --> 01:13:12,966
she realised that she
had forgotten some milk
1335
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:15,699
and wanted to call him to see if he coul
bring some in.
1336
01:13:16,067 --> 01:13:17,766
Looking at Bellfield's mobile phone usag
1337
01:13:17,899 --> 01:13:20,729
when he knows he is going to commit
a crime he switches his phone off.
1338
01:13:20,867 --> 01:13:22,527
He made a mistake on this occasion
1339
01:13:22,667 --> 01:13:24,426
because that call from Emma
1340
01:13:24,567 --> 01:13:27,867
to him about the milk hit his phone.
1341
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,770
It only rang once and went to voicemail.
1342
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:34,899
But that one ring meant that the call
had hit the mast where his phone was
1343
01:13:35,132 --> 01:13:37,672
and that mast was the one that served
Twickenham Green.
1344
01:13:38,067 --> 01:13:40,396
So, that story from Emma gave us.
1345
01:13:40,533 --> 01:13:42,733
Bellfield in the white Courier van
1346
01:13:43,233 --> 01:13:45,372
with his own mobile phone in his hand
1347
01:13:45,932 --> 01:13:47,632
and in the area of Twickenham Green
1348
01:13:47,832 --> 01:13:50,073
it was to be a crucial piece of evidence
1349
01:13:50,266 --> 01:13:53,067
I can just imagine, he's sitting in a
van, he hears the phone ringing
1350
01:13:53,199 --> 01:13:54,699
and he thinks 'I'll turn it off'
1351
01:13:54,932 --> 01:13:57,972
and he grabs it and pulls the battery
or switches it off.
1352
01:13:58,699 --> 01:14:00,270
But that one ring was enough
1353
01:14:00,399 --> 01:14:02,699
to leave a trace on the local mast
1354
01:14:02,832 --> 01:14:06,033
we kind of proving that he was
the one driving the white van.
1355
01:14:06,699 --> 01:14:10,270
The CPS asked us to just try
and firm Emma's evidence up
1356
01:14:10,466 --> 01:14:12,527
she'd paid cash for her shopping
1357
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:14,699
but what my officers did
1358
01:14:14,832 --> 01:14:18,103
and it was a fantastic and spontaneous
piece of investigative work by them
1359
01:14:18,699 --> 01:14:20,800
they asked Emma to list what she bought.
1360
01:14:20,932 --> 01:14:24,672
They came here to Tesco, they asked
the manager if they had copy till rolls
1361
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,300
they found her receipt
1362
01:14:26,432 --> 01:14:28,932
and of course it had a
date and time stamp on it
1363
01:14:29,132 --> 01:14:31,502
and it proved her story was correct.
1364
01:14:31,867 --> 01:14:33,497
So, that was a really
1365
01:14:33,632 --> 01:14:35,802
crucial part of the evidence in fact
1366
01:14:35,932 --> 01:14:39,672
it was the clinching part of the evidenc
as far as the crown prosecution service
1367
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,029
concerned and when we managed to prove
all that to their satisfaction
1368
01:14:43,432 --> 01:14:46,632
that they authorized the murder charge
in respect of Amelie.
1369
01:14:50,733 --> 01:14:54,703
It was back in November 2004 that...
1370
01:14:55,266 --> 01:14:58,966
when I first identified Levi
Bellfield really that I saw
1371
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,500
how close he lived to
1372
01:15:02,067 --> 01:15:04,306
where Milly Dowler was last seen before
she was abducted.
1373
01:15:04,367 --> 01:15:07,627
In my phone I still had the mobile numbe
for Brian Marjoram
1374
01:15:07,832 --> 01:15:11,332
he was the senior investigating officer
for the Milly Dowler investigation
1375
01:15:11,567 --> 01:15:12,697
in Surrey.
1376
01:15:12,832 --> 01:15:15,472
I told him all that we
knew about Levi Bellfield
1377
01:15:16,167 --> 01:15:17,627
and where he was living at the time.
1378
01:15:17,867 --> 01:15:19,596
I'll never forget his reply, it was
1379
01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:22,076
'the hairs on my neck are standing
up, Colin'.
1380
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:24,670
What I found surprising
was that kind of... there was
1381
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,229
a degree of inertia within Surrey police
in taking up.
1382
01:15:28,432 --> 01:15:30,233
Levi Bellfield as their suspect
1383
01:15:30,367 --> 01:15:32,266
they didn't feel that
they were in a position
1384
01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:35,170
to drop everything they were doing
and look at this man instead.
1385
01:15:35,733 --> 01:15:38,252
And what they sort of said was,
'we'll put him on the backburner
1386
01:15:38,367 --> 01:15:41,966
and carry on with what we're doing and i
does nothing we'll have a look at Bellfi
1387
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:44,170
Eventually what happened was that
1388
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:47,600
a new senior investigating
officer took over in Surrey.
1389
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,300
I went down there with Jo Brunt.
1390
01:15:49,632 --> 01:15:51,132
We had a meeting
1391
01:15:51,266 --> 01:15:53,127
at Surrey headquarters and we...
1392
01:15:53,266 --> 01:15:55,426
well Colin put to them that we think.
1393
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,970
Levi Bellfield was a very good suspect
1394
01:15:58,332 --> 01:15:59,802
in the case of Milly Dowler.
1395
01:15:59,932 --> 01:16:01,802
We'd already muted it and
1396
01:16:01,932 --> 01:16:04,773
been stone walled about it, basically.
1397
01:16:04,899 --> 01:16:07,500
They showed me a still from the CCTV
1398
01:16:07,632 --> 01:16:12,403
it's of a red car that they thought was
2 Vauxhall Astra it was actually a Daewo
1399
01:16:12,533 --> 01:16:14,332
turning left out of the
1400
01:16:14,466 --> 01:16:17,827
road that led to where Bellfield's
and Emma's flat was.
1401
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:19,930
I kind of said, 'yeah that's Emma's car
1402
01:16:20,067 --> 01:16:21,697
that's the car he was driving that day
1403
01:16:21,832 --> 01:16:25,773
it was a Daewoo, it's the only red
one registered in the whole of Surrey.
1404
01:16:27,466 --> 01:16:29,167
Not a very common car at all'.
1405
01:16:29,567 --> 01:16:30,886
They just wouldn't want to listen
1406
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,199
they didn't want to listen and eventuall
Colin said
1407
01:16:33,332 --> 01:16:37,573
'can I just ask, why don't you want
to solve the case of Millie Dowler?'
1408
01:16:37,867 --> 01:16:40,896
at which point they erupted
1409
01:16:41,132 --> 01:16:42,773
and Colin walked out of the room.
1410
01:16:42,899 --> 01:16:44,130
With hindsight, obviously
1411
01:16:44,266 --> 01:16:46,367
going to be a red rag to a
bull to any investigator.
1412
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:49,770
I said, 'well, what I don't understand
is why you don't want to solve this'
1413
01:16:49,932 --> 01:16:53,472
and the reaction I got was the reaction
that comment deserved
1414
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,729
which was indignation.
1415
01:16:56,233 --> 01:16:59,273
It was quite forceful indignation
by the super-intendant.
1416
01:17:00,899 --> 01:17:03,970
We established that in March 2002.
1417
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:07,100
Emma Mills,
Levi Bellfield's long-term partner
1418
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:09,899
was living in this ground floor flat her
1419
01:17:10,167 --> 01:17:12,567
She'd moved here because of all
the domestic violence at home
1420
01:17:12,632 --> 01:17:16,802
she'd split up with him,
but he'd persuaded her to take him back.
1421
01:17:17,466 --> 01:17:22,726
She wasn't at that time staying in the f
was house sitting for a friend in West D
1422
01:17:24,567 --> 01:17:27,726
But when Bellfield came to that house
on the evening that Milly was abducted.
1423
01:17:28,199 --> 01:17:31,069
Emma knew that he'd been
to the flat in Walton.
1424
01:17:31,667 --> 01:17:34,096
Because he was wearing clothes
he'd changed his clothes
1425
01:17:34,332 --> 01:17:36,432
and she knew the clothes he was wearing
1426
01:17:36,632 --> 01:17:38,832
were from the wardrobe of the Walton fla
1427
01:17:39,899 --> 01:17:41,270
He also had the keys
1428
01:17:41,399 --> 01:17:44,970
to this flat because he was
driving Emma's red Daewoo car
1429
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:47,399
and the keys to the flat
were on the same keyring.
1430
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,229
When Bellfield drove that car from here
1431
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:52,729
drove away, was Milly inside it?
1432
01:17:53,567 --> 01:17:55,226
We don't know, we can't tell.
1433
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:59,000
20 minutes after Milly
Dowler was last seen
1434
01:17:59,167 --> 01:18:01,867
to when her remains were
found six months later
1435
01:18:02,699 --> 01:18:03,869
we have no idea
1436
01:18:04,266 --> 01:18:07,127
of the timeline, we don't know
what happened and in what order.
1437
01:18:07,832 --> 01:18:08,972
All we can say
1438
01:18:09,266 --> 01:18:11,896
is that Levi Bellfield was exactly here
1439
01:18:12,167 --> 01:18:14,997
on this spot at the time
that she was abducted.
1440
01:18:15,367 --> 01:18:18,396
We don't know whether
he abducted her by force
1441
01:18:18,766 --> 01:18:22,966
or whether he used charm or persuasion
1442
01:18:23,332 --> 01:18:24,932
to get her to come with him.
1443
01:18:25,399 --> 01:18:26,829
What we do know
1444
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:30,369
is that while Emma was away
house sitting for a friend.
1445
01:18:31,367 --> 01:18:33,926
Bellfield was using her flat
1446
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:36,829
as a base for his depraved activities.
1447
01:18:37,466 --> 01:18:40,596
It's quite sad that there
is this friction between
1448
01:18:40,966 --> 01:18:43,896
police services, police forces, the Met
1449
01:18:44,033 --> 01:18:48,033
I mean we should all be in it together a
we should be working
1450
01:18:48,332 --> 01:18:51,632
for the same cause and sometimes
I didn't find that it was
1451
01:18:52,033 --> 01:18:54,603
like that with other
forces that we dealt with.
1452
01:18:54,966 --> 01:18:58,766
It was tragic obviously
that they didn't find that
1453
01:18:58,932 --> 01:19:00,403
clip with the red Daewoo
1454
01:19:00,567 --> 01:19:03,766
and it took them quite a while
to even acknowledge that.
1455
01:19:05,832 --> 01:19:06,972
I think the real mistake
1456
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:09,100
was made when they visited.
1457
01:19:09,233 --> 01:19:10,972
Emma Mills's flat
1458
01:19:11,100 --> 01:19:12,970
during that week when Milly went missing
1459
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:14,800
and there was no response from the flat
1460
01:19:14,932 --> 01:19:18,002
but it was a loose end
that wasn't sewn up.
1461
01:19:18,167 --> 01:19:19,596
They were sending officers
1462
01:19:19,899 --> 01:19:22,029
to reported sightings all over the count
1463
01:19:22,167 --> 01:19:26,766
and yet didn't get the house to
house inquiries completed nearby.
1464
01:19:26,899 --> 01:19:29,800
The results from the consequences
of that were tragic
1465
01:19:29,932 --> 01:19:34,002
because from 2002, March 2002
1466
01:19:34,533 --> 01:19:36,932
the following year,
Bellfield killed Marsha.
1467
01:19:37,632 --> 01:19:40,733
He left Kate Sheedy within
1468
01:19:41,500 --> 01:19:42,869
an inch of death
1469
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,069
and then finally murdered
Amelie Delagrange.
1470
01:19:47,867 --> 01:19:49,327
Later that evening I'm at home
1471
01:19:49,466 --> 01:19:52,396
and my wife then worked for Surrey Polic
1472
01:19:52,533 --> 01:19:55,009
she said, 'the super-intendant
has asked for your phone number'
1473
01:19:55,033 --> 01:19:56,903
my mobile rings and he says
1474
01:19:57,233 --> 01:20:01,103
'you know, I've had a think about what y
and I think you're right, we are on boar
1475
01:20:01,699 --> 01:20:03,130
He's our number 1 now.'
1476
01:20:08,533 --> 01:20:11,302
18 months after Amelie
Delagrange was murdered
1477
01:20:11,432 --> 01:20:14,132
in March 2006 we were finally able
1478
01:20:14,266 --> 01:20:16,867
to charge Levi Bellfield with her murder
1479
01:20:17,167 --> 01:20:18,827
I read the charges out to him
1480
01:20:20,067 --> 01:20:23,027
he was charged that he had murdered
Amelie Delagrange
1481
01:20:23,399 --> 01:20:26,170
that he had attempted
to murder Kate Sheedy
1482
01:20:26,699 --> 01:20:29,630
and that he had abducted Anna Maria Renn
1483
01:20:30,167 --> 01:20:33,396
and that he had attempted
to murder Irma Dragoshi.
1484
01:20:34,367 --> 01:20:40,127
In May 2006, he was charged with murderi
Marsha McDonnell.
1485
01:20:41,733 --> 01:20:43,932
I was looking directly into his eyes
1486
01:20:44,067 --> 01:20:47,197
they were just cold
black he had no emotion
1487
01:20:47,500 --> 01:20:48,630
but I could tell
1488
01:20:48,899 --> 01:20:50,470
that he hated me at that moment and
1489
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,430
I quite enjoyed being hated.
1490
01:20:52,567 --> 01:20:57,367
Because he knew that if he got convicted
that he wouldn't see the light of day ag
1491
01:20:57,500 --> 01:21:00,100
But we knew at that point,
there is still a long way to go.
1492
01:21:00,233 --> 01:21:02,132
You know in major crime
1493
01:21:02,266 --> 01:21:06,226
that charging and getting someone
in custody is almost step one
1494
01:21:06,733 --> 01:21:08,773
from that point on, proving it
1495
01:21:08,966 --> 01:21:11,867
we had a lot of work to do to pull
the offenses together
1496
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,529
join away cases up and get
enough of a case to make sure
1497
01:21:15,667 --> 01:21:17,627
he would get found guilty.
1498
01:21:22,567 --> 01:21:23,627
The trial
1499
01:21:23,832 --> 01:21:25,802
started on the 1st of October
1500
01:21:26,199 --> 01:21:28,470
but the first two weeks
virtually was spent up
1501
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,130
choosing a jury
1502
01:21:30,266 --> 01:21:33,143
where you don't have forensic evidence,
where you haven't got a DNA profile
1503
01:21:33,167 --> 01:21:35,027
or fingerprints or something like that
1504
01:21:35,199 --> 01:21:37,029
there is always the chance that
1505
01:21:37,567 --> 01:21:39,796
the jury will say,
'you haven't proved this'.
1506
01:21:39,932 --> 01:21:42,802
I'm somebody who has spent
quite a lot of my life
1507
01:21:42,932 --> 01:21:44,502
around courts and
1508
01:21:44,632 --> 01:21:48,872
to be honest I quite enjoy the
theater and the drama of a court trial
1509
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:51,100
but this time
1510
01:21:51,233 --> 01:21:53,703
the stakes were really high.
This was something
1511
01:21:53,832 --> 01:21:56,773
I'd put a lot of time and effort
into, all my team
1512
01:21:56,899 --> 01:21:59,029
had put an awful lot of
time and effort in to.
1513
01:21:59,632 --> 01:22:03,002
Amelie Delagrange's parents were there
for the entire trial
1514
01:22:03,132 --> 01:22:06,432
other families were here as and
when it was relevant to them
1515
01:22:06,699 --> 01:22:09,430
and also we had the victims whose cases
1516
01:22:09,766 --> 01:22:12,667
we couldn't charge because there
wasn't any evidence but nevertheless
1517
01:22:12,899 --> 01:22:15,130
they came along,
they wanted to see justice done.
1518
01:22:15,266 --> 01:22:18,827
I guess the victims and the victims
families the thing that I would say
1519
01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:20,670
overall to describe them
1520
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:24,029
is just the dignified way in which they
conducted themselves throughout.
1521
01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:27,000
And that was in stark contrast to
1522
01:22:27,533 --> 01:22:28,932
the sneering
1523
01:22:29,067 --> 01:22:31,197
and damn right offensive way
1524
01:22:31,367 --> 01:22:34,596
that Bellfield sometimes conducted himse
during that trial.
1525
01:22:34,733 --> 01:22:36,103
He came across as
1526
01:22:36,233 --> 01:22:39,603
a sort of an arrogant man who
swaggered his way into the dock.
1527
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:45,329
Bellfield had little respect for anybody
involved he was not a likable character.
1528
01:22:45,567 --> 01:22:48,197
He called Amelie
Delagrange parents 'scum'.
1529
01:22:49,132 --> 01:22:52,073
How dare somebody like him having done
what he has done
1530
01:22:52,733 --> 01:22:55,432
call these dignified
1531
01:22:55,899 --> 01:22:58,470
wonderful people whose
daughter he had slain
1532
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:01,899
how can he call them 'scum'?
1533
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:04,930
He really still genuinely
believed at that point
1534
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:07,670
that he would be able to
talk his way out of this one
1535
01:23:07,832 --> 01:23:11,132
like he had virtually
everything throughout his life.
1536
01:23:11,266 --> 01:23:12,997
We knew that if this man
1537
01:23:13,132 --> 01:23:15,703
were allowed back out onto the streets
he would offend again.
1538
01:23:17,899 --> 01:23:21,430
The turning point came when Bellfield
was under cross examination
1539
01:23:21,567 --> 01:23:25,266
and he got a little bit unsettled by thi
and eventually said
1540
01:23:25,699 --> 01:23:29,029
'look you've got to understand
I'm fighting for my life here'
1541
01:23:29,667 --> 01:23:31,827
and using those very words
1542
01:23:32,466 --> 01:23:35,726
as soon as he used them I looked
at the judge I looked at the jury
1543
01:23:36,233 --> 01:23:38,132
and realised they were
thinking the same as me
1544
01:23:38,266 --> 01:23:41,667
that 'you're saying you're
fighting for your life Bellfield
1545
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:44,569
but you never gave that chance to
Amelie Delagrange
1546
01:23:44,699 --> 01:23:46,970
you never gave that
chance to Marsha McDonnell
1547
01:23:47,733 --> 01:23:50,972
why should we care that you are fighting
for your life
1548
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:52,369
when you've taken some?'.
1549
01:23:52,533 --> 01:23:54,903
Gradually, as he realised the
1550
01:23:55,300 --> 01:23:59,699
strength of the evidence and the
relentlessness of the questioning and th
1551
01:23:59,932 --> 01:24:02,932
bringing up of these circumstances
which showed him what he had done
1552
01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:06,430
you could virtually see in his
face the realization
1553
01:24:06,966 --> 01:24:09,726
that it was going south,
that it wasn't going well for him.
1554
01:24:10,367 --> 01:24:16,466
I have to say perhaps it's wrong of me b
loved it I loved to watch him crumble li
1555
01:24:16,667 --> 01:24:18,067
The day of the verdict
1556
01:24:18,199 --> 01:24:22,600
the court room was absolutely
packed to the brim with press
1557
01:24:22,867 --> 01:24:26,226
police and everyone who had anything
to do with Bellfield
1558
01:24:26,367 --> 01:24:29,127
and it is so nerve wracking waiting
for that sentence
1559
01:24:29,266 --> 01:24:30,627
because you're thinking
1560
01:24:31,067 --> 01:24:34,167
'this could go either way,
it can always go either way
1561
01:24:34,567 --> 01:24:35,867
depending on the jury'.
1562
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,470
The first verdict that came
1563
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,369
was on the Marsha McDonnell case
1564
01:24:40,899 --> 01:24:42,529
and the foreman said
1565
01:24:44,033 --> 01:24:46,332
That by a majority
verdict that he was guilty
1566
01:24:46,533 --> 01:24:49,002
and I remember saying to Jo
1567
01:24:49,432 --> 01:24:51,233
'that was actually our weakest case
1568
01:24:52,033 --> 01:24:55,132
and if they've convicted him of that
1569
01:24:55,667 --> 01:24:57,766
he's going to be convicted
of the next two'.
1570
01:24:57,966 --> 01:24:59,027
And we sat there
1571
01:25:00,667 --> 01:25:01,697
and we heard
1572
01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:05,670
from the foreman the words we'd wanted f
so many months
1573
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,000
that everything that we
had done was worthwhile
1574
01:25:08,132 --> 01:25:11,502
and Bellfield was guilty and we knew
at that point that the only thing
1575
01:25:11,632 --> 01:25:14,273
that gonna be happens to him was
going to be a whole life tariff
1576
01:25:14,667 --> 01:25:16,266
he was going to be in prison forever.
1577
01:25:17,033 --> 01:25:21,033
That's what he deserved and
what we had been working for.
1578
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:26,300
This was it, this was game over for him
His life was done.
1579
01:25:26,432 --> 01:25:28,533
When we got that conviction, I think
1580
01:25:28,699 --> 01:25:31,170
most of us burst into tears because it w
1581
01:25:31,300 --> 01:25:33,970
absolutely overwhelming, including Colin
1582
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:37,470
Just absolutely overwhelming feeling.
1583
01:25:37,667 --> 01:25:40,226
I don't believe justice
1584
01:25:40,899 --> 01:25:43,630
being served gives closure.
1585
01:25:44,432 --> 01:25:47,273
I don't believe that
families that have lost
1586
01:25:47,399 --> 01:25:49,770
a loved one to murder
1587
01:25:50,533 --> 01:25:51,773
ever have closure.
1588
01:25:51,899 --> 01:25:53,329
The beginning of this year
1589
01:25:53,466 --> 01:25:56,067
was the most difficult
1590
01:25:56,966 --> 01:25:59,926
going through all the motions of pain
1591
01:26:02,300 --> 01:26:03,770
backlashes
1592
01:26:04,766 --> 01:26:10,497
details and of course missing Marsha mor
than ever
1593
01:26:10,832 --> 01:26:12,103
Over this time
1594
01:26:12,233 --> 01:26:14,672
it's been hard to watch someone
who killed your daughter
1595
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:16,729
but he was arrogant in court
1596
01:26:16,867 --> 01:26:19,067
and he acted like he was above the law.
1597
01:26:19,432 --> 01:26:22,672
All we've done for the families of
the victims that have been murdered
1598
01:26:23,033 --> 01:26:25,632
is the very best we could.
1599
01:26:26,399 --> 01:26:28,069
And a very small part
1600
01:26:29,432 --> 01:26:33,273
of helping them to go on and adjust
to live their life afterwards.
1601
01:26:33,667 --> 01:26:36,266
Of course, I will never be able to forge
what happened to me
1602
01:26:36,399 --> 01:26:40,029
the scars on my body and the memories th
have are something I will never be rid o
1603
01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:42,029
but hopefully I can move on.
1604
01:26:42,899 --> 01:26:45,569
Attending court and facing my attacker
was very difficult
1605
01:26:45,899 --> 01:26:47,569
but something I felt was important.
1606
01:26:47,932 --> 01:26:52,033
The court process has been a long and ar
one that has stirred up many unwelcome m
1607
01:26:52,167 --> 01:26:54,497
and a lot of evidence has
been hard to listen to
1608
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,529
but it is finally over
1609
01:26:56,699 --> 01:26:59,842
and the fact that Bellfield has been fou
guilty means more to me than I can possi
1610
01:26:59,867 --> 01:27:01,567
The life sentence may provide
1611
01:27:01,699 --> 01:27:04,069
some closure for his victims families
1612
01:27:04,500 --> 01:27:07,630
but the file on Levi
Bellfield is still open.
1613
01:27:10,966 --> 01:27:12,627
The people we've really helped
1614
01:27:13,100 --> 01:27:15,670
in Bellfield's case, by locking him away
1615
01:27:15,932 --> 01:27:19,903
are the people who he would have assault
who would have become his victims in the
1616
01:27:20,167 --> 01:27:23,567
and they don't know it but they
are the ones we've really helped.
1617
01:27:24,332 --> 01:27:26,033
Having been convicted of.
1618
01:27:26,332 --> 01:27:29,932
Amelie and Marsha's murders and
the attempted murder of Kate Sheedy
1619
01:27:30,132 --> 01:27:35,372
post-trial, the media were allowed to ru
a background on Levi Bellfield.
1620
01:27:35,932 --> 01:27:39,372
There were huge appeals to try and find
the red Daewoo
1621
01:27:39,867 --> 01:27:43,367
which he had undoubtedly used to transpo
Milly's body.
1622
01:27:47,367 --> 01:27:49,426
Another offence that
was part of the series
1623
01:27:49,567 --> 01:27:51,966
was that of Rachel Cowles
1624
01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:55,369
who was subjected to a potential abducti
1625
01:27:55,500 --> 01:27:57,430
on the 21st of March 2002
1626
01:27:57,567 --> 01:28:00,896
as it happens was the day before
Milly Dowler was abducted.
1627
01:28:01,033 --> 01:28:04,802
Rachel Cowles offense occurred
in Shepperton she was aged 11
1628
01:28:05,132 --> 01:28:08,403
her mother reported it to the police
not a great deal was done there was
1629
01:28:08,533 --> 01:28:11,533
the registration of the crime, but
more importantly
1630
01:28:11,667 --> 01:28:13,296
three years later when there is an appea
1631
01:28:13,432 --> 01:28:16,672
regarding a red vehicle
related to Levi Bellfield.
1632
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,569
Rachel's mother made the connection
1633
01:28:18,699 --> 01:28:20,729
and contacted police again to
1634
01:28:20,867 --> 01:28:24,497
flag up the fact that the vehicle was
almost certainly the same one used
1635
01:28:24,632 --> 01:28:26,233
in the offense against her daughter.
1636
01:28:26,367 --> 01:28:29,296
That being the case it made the incident
1637
01:28:29,567 --> 01:28:33,067
against Rachel become
particularly relevant.
1638
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:35,800
Because it showed that
he was in that area.
1639
01:28:35,932 --> 01:28:37,233
He was living
1640
01:28:37,832 --> 01:28:41,573
in that block of flats where
Milly was literally walking by
1641
01:28:41,899 --> 01:28:43,300
when she vanished.
1642
01:28:43,500 --> 01:28:47,930
Eventually, it ended up with Bellfield
standing trial for Milly's murder.
1643
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We have some breaking news
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concerning Levi Bellfield
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he has been found guilty of the abductio
and murder
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of Milly Dowler.
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Levi Bellfield
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who is of course already convicted
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of two other murders, is now convicted
of the murder of Milly Dowler
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which for many years was one of the
most notorious unsolved murders.
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He now officially, because he has
been convicted of a third murder
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now becomes officially
at least a serial killer.
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It was the most difficult
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investigation I've ever done because it
was so wide ranging and so complicated.
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There's no doubt of all the
people I've met in 30 years he
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is the most dangerous
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the most unpredictable
and the most violent.
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He is the person I am
proudest of being able
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to play a part in taking
out of circulation.
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Because I seriously think that's the mos
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I can do for the community of London
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was to put him away, more than any
other criminal I've ever dealt with.
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It wasn't an easy case,
it was difficult to solve
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and it had to be solved,
as far as my career goes
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it was undoubtedly a stand-out point, ye
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Some people have described
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the Bellfield case, the investigation
as an old-fashioned detective case
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we had no forensic evidence
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there were no fingerprints,
there was no DNA.
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That's why we had to piece together this
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circumstantial case and although
the bedrock of that was CCTV
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and phone data,
an awful lot of time spent by my
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very talented and dedicated officers
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pacing around the
streets, knocking on doors
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taking statements, getting small pieces
of information
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that we were able to
assemble to make the case.
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Colin handled the case
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brilliantly. This was a high-profile job
and he was under some serious pressure.
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I don't think, to be honest with you
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that anyone else could have
done a better job to be fair.
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Personally,
I think there is other offending
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I think there is other things wrapped
around Levi Bellfield that could
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come to light,
given the right set of circumstances.
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I don't think it's a done deal.
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If there is the opportunity and the
resources and a set of circumstances exi
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I think there could be further
investigation work to carry on.
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The victims should be the
most important people involved
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in the case, is my thought on it
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so it's important that they are remember
They were the innocent people who
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very unfortunately and
sadly for their families
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were hurt by him.
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During that inquiry which lasted
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four years, I met a lot of people of who
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family members, friends
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some of them I'm still friends with toda
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standing there at the Old Bailey at that
conviction was the highlight of my caree
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I've no doubt that at some point
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if I'm fortunate enough to out live him
will come and say, 'what are your commen
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and I won't mourn Levi Bellfield
and I think very few people will.
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