All language subtitles for [English] Documentary - I KNOW WHAT I SAW! UFO Documentary

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I jumped out of the window oh my god this planes
gonna crash this thing came right across north

to south incidentally I was a private pilot so I
have some familiarity with there its glided over

my house and there was we saw what I thought
to be a kind of a boomerang shape oh my god

that's a wing fan I've never seen anything
like that they were reported by at least one

commercial airline pilot passed right in front
of us just about are right above eyes length

no I don't hear anything what in the hell is that

I came out second after Monica and I remember
looking at it was coming over the mountain and

it was like almost is why it is one of the humps
and it was very low it's coming across the sky and

as it's moving it's blocking and unblocking the
stars there is actually a shape it was more like

a boomerang than I like a straight V and then the
lights were spaced pretty evenly it was actually

five lights that were a v1 in front two and two
on each side and it was perfect it was a perfect

triangle if you can imagine something the size a
Camelback Mountain floating down Scottsdale Road

you have some idea of the intensity of this thing
the object we saw if we opened up a newspaper you

could not block out the object that we saw people
say Mike no you saw a b-2 bomber my response was

we could land all 40 of our b-2 bombers on the
wing of that craft you know is it's it's one of

the biggest things I've ever seen that uh that
moved like that I mean it was just enormous it

happened last night and I'd witnesses who saw it
say it's like nothing they've ever seen before

I don't know if it was as big as an aircraft
carrier it might have been because I've never

seen an aircraft carrier fly it barely missed that
now yeah came floating over them so had you not

looked up you wouldn't know no my daughter it was
8:30 at night my daughter was coming over here and

she ran in and said mom you have got to see this
so we are it was such an uproar about what people

described seeing that we also did a story about
it back in 1997 the first report of a strange

flying object came at about 8:20 that night from
a former police officer in hauled in Arizona over

the next 40 minutes people gave similar reports of
an object along a 200-mile route south to Phoenix

and Tucson it was a gunmetal black it wasn't shiny
it wasn't invisible it was more of a dull bluish

black color and we both just stayed there and
looked at it for a couple minutes and that was

completely silent when you look down the street
on a hot day in Phoenix above the streets like

it's really wavy and you see everything kind of
distorted that's what it looked like up inside the

middle of the craft it was just gliding and then
it stopped and then it like the sides retracted

a little and then it was gone acceleration to
deceleration it was no noise the whole time and

not a sound explanations have been tossed about
that they were flares there were planes flying

in formation where market robbing we check with
the FAA today we check with Sky Harbor which ever

Luke Air Force Base and there's been no official
explanation of those strange bright lights lights

well I'm gonna order a you know investigation
of this through DPS we're gonna make all the

necessary inquiries and we're gonna get to the
bottom of we're gonna find out if it was a UFO

one Patty Kirkpatrick remember those mysterious
lights in the sky well the governor says there

are new leads in the case good evening Arizona
Governor is holding a news conference on the

lights in the sky over Phoenix in March let's
listen in and now I'll ask officer Stein and

his colleagues to escort the accused into
the room so that we may all look upon the

guilty party and don't get him too close
to me please this just goes to show that

you guys are entirely too serious I think
what really irritated me was the joke the

governor pulled with the Martian you know I just
didn't have time for that kind of stuff he was

just dismissing everything that these people
had seen and said just like we're all Looney

Tunes and I know what I saw and that's not what
you're telling me what I saw I didn't see flares

I didn't see a 10 or Warthog so how about we work
together and try to figure out what this thing is

so when you hear someone says they saw
UFO you what you think they're crazy yes

I think they're crazy what puzzles me is
why people laugh at the subject of UFOs

but when the laughter stops everyone
secretly wants to know are they real

see it going I don't know if I want to know if
UFOs are real because then that raises a lot

of other issues who are they why are they
here are they gonna hurt me do they have

chocolate when I told my father I wanted to make
a documentary about UFOs he said it was crazy in

fact my whole family did and 95% of the time
this stuff is crazy but the remaining 5% that

is what keeps me going this man in the saucer
can you describe him well what year was taken

here I'm James Fox and I've been curious about
UFOs for a long time very curious evidently

the Air Force is curious too in pursuit of
this obligation and in 1952 they admitted it

we have received and analyzed between one and
two thousand reports there have been a certain

percentage of this volume of reports that have
been made by credible observers of relatively

incredible things all blocked up with the help
of investigative reporter Leslie Kane I decided

to put together some of the best witnesses from
around the world for this film almost ten years

after the termination of budget Newberg again
the cases and photographs you are about to see

represent some of the best evidence that UFOs
are real of unknown origin what were they after

because James beams were going down into
the WUSA we are all in the limo and on

the operator of the targets verify
that several said they were looking

for fissile material here the same question
over and over if UFOs are real then surely

someone in the know would be talking so
what time are we actually going up here

I guess we never wins man

good evening a historic occasion will take
place in Washington on Monday former high-level

government employees military officials and pilots
from all over the world will come together they'll

discuss their own UFO sightings and encounters
and they'll do it at the National Press Club

in the nation's capital this group has gathered
together to call on the United States government

to take an active role in investigating cases
involving unidentified flying objects James

Fox will be there Monday - absolutely yes to
establish the fact that the phenomenon is real

and it's and it's happening worldwide 500 we're
now saying that the United States is taking this

seriously or is this just an event I think the
United States is taking it seriously and they

they need to it's it's long overdue and you're
gonna moderate it right I'm gonna moderate it

I'm five Symington in 1997 during my second
term as governor of Arizona I saw something

that defied logic and challenged my reality
before this event I met with the governor at

his home to find out why he ridiculed the sighting
we were in the middle of um investigating it and

just couldn't get any answers paralleling that
activity was this almost historical environment

that was building the history the governor told me
what was actually going on behind the scenes and

we called Luke Air Force Base and we called the
FAA and I called various touch base with people

I called my general at the at the National
Guard nobody had an explanation people who

sort of said well we just don't know what it is
Phoenix Councilwoman Frances Barwood was one of

the only elected representatives willing to push
for an investigation I would have thought that

they would have wanted to do an investigation
but apparently they would rather ignore it I

don't know why at Barr woods request Senator John
McCain looked into the matter of personal we asked

the Air Force to look into it and this was the
first response that we got and we're gonna go

back and and ask them to look at it again Senator
McCain wrote letters to both the National Archives

and the Air Force both claimed not to have
jurisdiction over such matters I was kind of

surprised at at that response but there are people
who said they saw things and whenever that happens

they deserve at least an investigation it seems to
me the air force explanation eventually provided

to Senator McCain was military flares dropped
from a-10 warthogs between 9:30 and 10:00 p.m.

oh my god I hit paydirt finally according to some
analysts these lights captured on film were flares

well that is a totally different configuration
we've ever seen yep but this does not account

for the large boomerang shaped object seen by the
governor in hundreds possibly thousands of others

across the state beginning several hours earlier
I mean it clearly had a shape to it and in a

big shape and it was a constant shape and you you
can't control flares that way there's just no way

they were flares why can't you tell us what's it
gonna hurt I would like I would like for them to

come out and say that's top secret and we're not
gonna tell you what it was the v-formation I was

only able to find one video taken of the earlier
sightings I was however given this video taken by

an army colonel a few years earlier it reminds
me of what Arizona witnesses described seen

I don't hear anything no I don't hear
anything what in the hell is that you

see the Stars you see through it right
there suggest see it now and it's it's

that's not plain spying information behind
it either it's another another triangle

what would you say to the people about it
I'd say I saw an unidentified flying object

of massive proportions float over the City
of Phoenix and Scottsdale and I don't have

that damnedest clue what it was I saw it it
was over my house I saw it for five minutes

it wasn't something that was a flash that I
only saw it for a second could it have been

I know when I saw and I get very upset and I was
wondering why they want to find out what it was

govenor Symington i am bill burns from the
History Channel just a quick question when

you were giving your press conference back in
Phoenix were there any external pressures on

you to defuse a situation in the way you did or
did anyone instruct you not to comment on the

truth of what was happening in Phoenix well the
only external pressure and it was significant

was the fact that there was just this massive
public reaction to the the lights over Phoenix

I mean we've just being inundated by the press
and people coming into my office saying this

thing is just reaching heights of hysteria and
concern I'd never seen that before I mean I've

been in office for quite a while and I'd never
seen kind of that reaction and so three of us

sort of sat down at the end and decided to to
try to lighten the mood a little bit well I'd

like now to set the record straight I never meant
to ridicule anyone my office did make enquiries

as to the origin of the craft but to this day
they remain unanswered I still don't know what

it was as a pilot and a former Air Force officer
I can definitively say that this craft did not

resemble any man-made object that I'd ever seen
well I now know that I'm not alone in witnessing

something extraordinary that's the bottom line
there are many high ranking military aviation and

government officials many of whom are here today
and share my concerns some of them have truly

exceptional stories to tell hundreds of people
saw a majestic triangular craft with a span of

approximately hundred and twenty feet powerful
beaming spotlights moving very slowly without

making any significant noise but in several cases
accelerating to very high speeds physical traces

on the ground from the craft were confirmed by
the local police the official conclusion of Japan

in 1979 was that about 15 percent of the cases
remained unidentified after careful analysis by

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be misidentifications of things such as aircraft
satellites and meteors but in around 5% of cases

no explanation could be found Washington DC is
no stranger to this story these sausage be some

kind of a secret weapon of ours know if they
were air material command to be the first to

know how about a device from a foreign country
we know they're not what is your opinion colonel

the US air force's involvement with UFOs
started back in World War two when pilots

reported being followed by luminous orbs
there were nicknamed Foo Fighters by 1947

flying saucer sightings were getting national
coverage they flew like ironically like a like

a saucer what if it if you have skipped
it across the water according to this

memo titled opinion concerning flying discs by
general Nathan twining the phenomenon reported

is something real and not visionary or
fictitious it just come up like that

and tipped and just I mean really whip it
didn't have no smoke no motor just to win

it went fast I've never seen anything coarser
faster in my life as that thing went yeah the

sightings over Washington in July 1952 were just
part of one of the biggest and most impressive

UFO waves in all UFO history this incident was
witnessed by the public military pilots in air

traffic control pilots went aloft they saw
luminous glowing object out in front of him

right where the radar indicated it to be so you
had ground radar airborne radar and the pilots

visual sightings look magazine reported that
radar operators at Washington National Airport

tracked UFOs at speeds up to 7,000 miles per hour
I am here to discuss the so-called flying saucers

Major General Sanford who was a director of
information of the air force called a press

conference which was characterized at the time as
being the largest press conference since World War

two the airport's interest in this problem then
due to our feeling of an obligation to identify

and analyze to the best of our ability anything
in the air that may have the possibility of

threat former minutes to the United States there
have been a certain percentage of this volume of

reports that had been made by credible observers
of relatively incredible things it is this group

of observations that we now are attempting to
resolve the Joint Chiefs of Staff talk to you or

concern you about the unidentified flying object
oh yes we discussed it with every conference that

we had with the military and they never had been
and never were able to make me a concrete report

on you have what makes it I think there no I have
anything on subjective there's always things like

that going on that flying saucers they were
senior Air Force generals convinced that we

had interplanetary visitors and they were setting
the policy and they were behind the Life magazine

article of I believe April 1952 which was titled
do we have interplanetary visitors they read

the story the answer obviously was yes with the
cooperation of the United States Air Force Life

magazine conducted an exhaustive one-year study
out of a number of conclusions this one caught

my eye no power plant known or projected on earth
could account for the performance of these devices

six other hoes is the journalist and a qualified
pilot he saw what he believed to be a flying

frosted flight from Winnipeg to Vancouver and
get aircraft so we're very high about 37,000

feet coming up on the mouth this brought sunset
this unexplained light was or a disc-shaped object

was down in the darkness so I just have never
full of camera with me and we took the picture

in my opinion I think they were worried that they
would panic the public if they knew that someone

had vehicles that had this kind of performance way
back right after World War two period of time they

started telling lies about it dr. J Allen Hynek
investigated UFOs for the United States Air Force

for over 22 years the most well-known of these
investigations was Project Blue Book where media

is not in this 1979 interview dr. Hynek revealed
why the Air Force changed its public position they

were strongly guided by the CIA because the CIA
was not concerned so much with UFOs as they were

with UFO reports they were afraid actually that
if another nation wanted to perpetrate another

Pearl Harbor that if their agents spawned a bunch
of false flying saucer stories that might clog the

military whereas actually having an amazing - so
they devised the so-called Robertson panel which

I was an associate remember at the time a very
prestigious panel I was one of the lower ranking

ones that they had Nobel Prize winners and working
hard on it but at any rate they handed down the

dictum which then became sort of the unwritten
law of the Air Force don't rock the boat play it

down clean it don't get the public excited what
is your answer the people who are sure there are

spaceships and they serve at you and the Air
Force or in codes first of all this business

about being in cahoots appear downright ultra
and I know having been in Blue Book for nearly

20 years that whenever an interesting case came
up the very last thing in the world they would

do is to notify the media and when the media
themselves found out something therefore did its

best to play it down it's called it a balloon we
called it a star called it boom meteors satellite

ever have seen the Sun glinting off of them and
the birds are critics continually charged at the

anthers Air Force is withholding information
from the general public on this subject this

is absolutely untrue and there is nothing in
the records which would indicate that we have

been visited by any advanced civilization there
is nothing to hide there is nothing to hide it

on the flying saucers are nothing new to the top
residents of the area saw it the police saw it

sergeant Newell Snyder of the Sheriff's Office
remembered it well enough to draw it what do

you think it was off they called a flying saucer
that's what I'm in the Air Force that has chief

scientific consultant on UFOs professor J Allen
Hynek to check the Michigan sightings a little bit

of swamp light appears here it goes out another
one appears over here that goes off and empathy

you have a distance is that the object that
moved back and forth the citizens of Michigan

didn't buy it and asked then congressman Gerald
Ford to investigate what about flying saucers

you've had to come to Michigan the past week you
really believe in flying saucers you fought for

a congressional investigation they've we've had
several incidents in Michigan in the last week

incidents that many reliable good citizens felt
were sufficient to justify some action by our

government and not the kind of flippant answer
that was given by the air force where they passed

it off as a trap yeah this is not an attack on the
air force spokesman or the project spokesman they

are simply following orders to explain away all
UFO sightings as quickly as possible when they

become public and deny the beautiful really exists
scientists were being misled even as the public

was being mislead to this day most scientists have
no inkling serious hardcore elements because now

it's all treated like a tabloid subject are you
sorry now that you did tell people what you saw

yes I am I am I'm sorry because not that it's not
the truth but it's just the idea that reaction of

the people they think you're a nut tell you the
truth that's just what they figure you are and I'm

not gonna take it from what I don't want nobody
down in here I die just leave me alone and if it

was the thing lands right during wrote another
poem I'd never say a word ten years ago in 1969

they closed Blue Book and I thought for a while
that maybe well maybe this was finally gonna be

over but since that time we've had about 25,000
more UFO reports many of the hundreds of people

reporting the sightings believe they've all seen
the same object it's called the Hudson Valley UFO

that way I'll be talking I tell you
something funny I don't know what the

hell it is it moved in a very straight line
very slowly there was absolutely no noise

there was not a sound and it moves smoothly
very smoothly it was like it was floating it

was silent it was hovering I mean airplanes
can hover do you believe firstly no sir how

do you know that you're not being used how
do you know that you know the full story

my name is Gary Tuchman with CNN and this
questions for the governor and mr. Callahan

this really is a government that doesn't mind
scaring us we still have orange alerts and red

alerts and they scare us all the time it keeps
people at work so I'm wondering why you think

and you just state that that's the reason and
that's it was that really the motivation for

a government that doesn't mind scaring us if
these phenomena are as technologically advanced

as they appear to be then one could say that
we're completely vulnerable as a civilization

and that's to some people that might be
horrifying and I'm just speculating on

that that feeling of vulnerability and so a lot
of people like to say well you know we're not

vulnerable that's just not true that didn't
happen and they shut it out of their minds

frightened of something I know it well well
we could do a little rest table introduction

you know because me you know few of us
have only just met and things like that

extensive you could after the program last
evening they did the survey on the internet

and they asked people do you believe in UFOs
what was the results seventy-five or eighty

the night before our big event at
the National Press Club we all met

for dinner my dream was coming true here
I was surrounded by credible people who

are about to share incredible stories
so these are reliable witnesses yeah

there were generals pilots physicists an FAA
official an Air Force colonel I'd never been

in a room full of so many people of this caliber
comfortably talking about the existence of UFOs

we were enjoying our time together it
was remarkable how everyone had something

extraordinary in common there was a mutual
understanding and I got some answers to some big

questions why did the French government do what
they did by releasing the UFO FILES just recently

it took 15 years to convince to do something
despite the public position of the US government

somebody whether it was on an official or a sort
of back-channel basis but somebody most definitely

was looking into the UFO phenomenon if you're
not capable to identify whatever flies around

there is something wrong could you say something
very quickly one of the things I always remember

you talking about was when you'd be at a cocktail
party and the subject would come up with UFOs and

you sat with one on the ground for 45 minutes and
you'd bite your tongue what was that like it was

difficult but you know in some ways there was some
kind of satisfaction involved there and they're

talking about stuff the what if and I knew my name
is James Penniston United States Air Force retired

in 1980 I was assigned to the largest Tactical
Fighter Wing in the Air Force at the time I was

I was stationed at RAF Woodbridge England shortly
after midnight on the 26th of December 1980 Staff

Sergeant Stefan's briefed me that some lights were
seen in Rendlesham forest just outside the back

gate he informed me that whatever he seen didn't
crash he told me it landed I then ordered Airmen

commands AK a1c burles to respond with me off
site that night we were on security one which was

in charge of mobile security for the Woodbridge
base and we responded to jimbros his sighting of

something out on the edge of the flight line or
the controller on the radio broadcast over the

air that go down and check out a possible UFO
there was a craft of some sort that was sitting

just inside the tree line we righted spected crash
site it quickly became apparent that we were not

dealing with a plane crash or for that matter
anything else we've ever responded to Burroughs

would say to Jim Penniston do you see that you
see do you see what's out there at that the edge

of the trees it was just bright lights you know
the only way you can describe it is it I guess

you'd call it an object at the point in time three
of us had direct observation of the craft I then

asked Airmen commands act to relate the radio
transmissions back to our control center Burl's

and I proceeded towards the craft the only noise
we heard out in the woods was the noise of the

animals just as burles and I entered the tree line
the shape of the craft was defined the closer we

got the more the white light dissipated but what
appeared was a trying of craft when we approached

it it was oh I sailed measured probably about nine
feet long maybe six feet high little higher mate

maybe six and a half feet the lighting emanated
from the fabric of the craft and it would actually

move around and it would move you'd have different
locations where maybe a little blue lighting was

going in - or maybe lower red and then there must
have been some type of lighting underneath of it

because it's silhouetted the aircraft itself
I had went around and started doing a 360 walk

around the area taking recording my observations
I was looking underneath the craft like that I

had taken quite detailed notes on that type of
aircraft still unknown an old parent landing gear

no sound but appears to be pulsating somehow yeah
it was pretty nerve-wracking I mean when you're

there's something there right in front you don't
know what it is I would go ahead and feel the

craft which was warm there was static electricity
in the air very warm to touch identifying markings

are on left front side as I came around to the one
side of the of the craft there was itching on the

faced me just above the center part of the craft
itself of course this is done all freehand as I

was walking around the craft but these symbols ran
from left to right across and then underneath the

those that line of symbols was this which is
triangular and some type of circle here some

type of circle here in a larger circle here and
of course all this was filled in with thee like

the etching part of it I was curious about the
symbols that Jim Penniston copied in his logbook

I had these symbols enlarged and then showed him
to cryptologist in mathematician George Daglish

I wanted to know if he had any ideas as to what
they might mean the first symbol looks to me like

a vessel with a steering or a float in some sort
of medium the second symbol looks like a glyph

associated with a mathematical idea known as the
fiber nachi series which is found everywhere in

nature and this is what we have here the root of
a fiber nature series one two and three taken as

a whole rather clever glyph all in one mr. dag
was stressed that this was only speculation but

I found his interpretations quite interesting
especially since I've always heard that the only

universal language would be mathematics from
that get this they could represent an apse in

an orbit a perigee or an Apogee and if they are
APS's packages and parodies it means that the

orbiter is doing a highly processive orbit
so if you are going to survey a planet and

this is an orbiter as you know which would be a
very sensible arrangement if you were using the

vehicle as a surveying vehicle because you get
a maximum look at the planet I don't think they

were trying to send us a metaphysical measures
about the beauty of life or the promote what

the reason for the universe anything like that
or their own existence I think it's just more

utilitarian marking so they knew what craft they
were dealing with I knew that that craft could not

have been made by man and then they started moving
back in between the trees with absolutely no sound

no air disturbance at all takeoff unknown speed
and I write impossible I mean it was threatening

to me but it wasn't the type that you were gonna
shoot on it and also the fact was that what would

happen if I would have shot at him boy what good
would it have done that night over 80 air force

personnel all trained observers assigned to
the 81st security police squadron witnessed

the takeoff the information acquired during that
investigation was reported through my military

channels the team and witnesses were told to
treat the investigation as top-secret thank you

as the deputy base commander Colonel Charles
halt was in charge of the investigation when

he too became a witness in late December 1980
I was called upon to investigate a very strange

event an event that was distracting our security
police from their primary duties I believe that

he would offer debunk the whole situation and
I think he got in the middle of a situation

he could explain either two nights later at the
family Christmas party I was interrupted by the

on-duty police commander he told of strange events
and said it was back since my boss had to present

Awards I was tasked to go out and investigate
I fully expected to find an explanation during

this entire event I was fortunate to have with
me and my small pocket recorder it's a little

endian what you're about to hear are excerpts
from the original recording made that night

he's coming toward us now one approach to very
high-speed and sent on a strange beam right at

our feet another object sent down beams of light
into the weapons storage area the whole time we

had difficulty communicating with the base as
all three radio frequencies we were using kept

breaking up I have no idea what we saw that
night but I do know with great certainty it

was under intelligent control five star Admiral
Lord Hill Norton had been pressuring Parliament

to provide clear answers on this case I wanted
to know if he believed a UFO actually landed at

a u.s. airbase in England that is one explanation
that it actually happened as Colonel Holt reported

the other explanation is that it didn't and in
that case one is bound to assume that Colonel

Holt and all his men were hallucinating the
British Ministry of Defense's position is that

nothing of any defence interest took place this
position was strongly criticized by the Admiral

that the colonel of an American Air Force Base
in Suffolk and his merry men are hallucinating

when there are nuclear armed aircraft on the base
must be of Defence interest if indeed what he says

took place did take place and why on earth would
he make it up then surely the entry of a vehicle

from outer space certainly not man-made to a
defence base in this country also cannot fail

to be of Defence interest outside the Parliament
building I met with Nick Pope he investigated UFOs

officially for the British government I reopened
the case and conducted a sort of cold case review

of the original investigation and I was shocked to
find a series of basic errors had been committed

exactly the same sorts of errors that often
fatally undermine a police investigation Nick

Pope shared with me some startling evidence from
the Ministry of Defense's files this is one of the

most important documents to emerged from the mo
DS case files it's from an assistant director in

di 52 this is their assessment of the radiation
readings that Colonel halt and his team took at

the landing site what we have here is a plaster
cast of one of the three indentations the object

the gym and the other two magenta man approached
is it's approximately eight to ten inches across

and about three inches deep at its maximum point
this is a cast number - he made an impression of

all three of the indentations and they were
all identical now here's the key bit these

levels seem significantly higher than the average
background and in fact I double-check this with

some other government scientists it's about
eight times normal so this is absolute proof

positive from the mo deez own documentation
that something extraordinary happened

back in America I arranged a meeting between
Colonel halt and sergeant nevels one of the

men who is with them that night it's been a
long time ha these men shared an extraordinary

experience one that puzzles them to this day I
was glad to have brought them together after 28

years if you've been there done that it's a
whole lot different I know the skeptics did

was sometimes going around with and they can't
believe us and a lot of the other people that

were involved especially Penniston and Burroughs
and all have had all kinds of complications and

career problems I did too Penniston retired as
a tech sergeant probably should have made chief

step by step Colonel Holt and Sergeant nevels went
over what happened that night it was approaching

us yep no way of calculating how fast it was
going it was just gone the turns were 90-degree

turns they were just abrupt right and there was
no way no way that anything we had in technology

then and I don't believe the technology we have
today would allow anything that we saw to make

the turns the way they turned we met with
General Gordon Williams the Wing Commander

of the entire base he would neither confirm nor
deny the incident he did however tell us how he

felt about a leaked memo written by Deputy base
commander Colonel Charles halt that went under

the door and I didn't see it now did he have
a motivation and doing that did he think that

if he brought it in to me I would have stepped
on it I certainly would have looked at it very

carefully because it had some things in there that
I don't think we were prepared to defend once that

cat was out of the bag you know I couldn't put
Humpty Dumpty back together again and it lived

its own life I just find this very interesting
that the US Air Force or government generally

says that they don't investigate UFOs since the
termination of Blue Book and yet you're convinced

that there was an investigation that took place
so who gave the orders to do that it certainly

didn't come from anybody that was normally on
the base other than in the OSI I didn't tell my

wife I didn't tell my daughter I had a top safety
clearance and when I was told to shut up I shut up

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uncle today you home akisto push the smoochy

stop it can smoke euro solution your issue
concoction aha Josefa what I'm about to tell

you is about defense that never happened for
an event that never happened FAA official John

Callahan certainly has a lot of evidence
they brought the voice tapes he kept audio

recordings between the cockpit and the tower
as the incident unfolded he has 30 minutes of

taped radar that confirms the UFO a chart
that documents all the objects in the 747s

flight path and the official FAA report event
that never happened according to Callahan all

of this was presented to the CIA in a private
meeting when the pilot first reported the UFO

he described it as a huge ball with lights running
around that he said it was about four times bigger

than the 747 he was riding and remember the 747
has an elevator and he's looking out the window

when he sees something that's four times the
size of his aircraft what you're about to see

and here are excerpts from the actual radar and
cockpit conversations as the incident unfolded

16:20

okay

we lost content but now

within 20 seconds so what time he says it's over
here at 12 o'clock in 8 miles and when the antenna

goes by we see a target 10 seconds later it
is now behind him six seven miles behind so

what's going from from eight miles out here to
set to seven miles back here really on five to

six seconds when I went back to headquarters
I gave an admiral Lincoln a quick briefing

and showed him the video he set up a briefing
with the President Reagan scientific staff he

told me my function was to hand this operation
off to those people those people ended up being

the CIA the president's group a bunch of grunts
that came to the meeting the CIA said this event

never happened we were never here and you're
all sworn to secrecy we are confiscating all

this data and they did they took everything
that was in the room in those days when you

printed out something from the computer
fortunately he kept copies of everything

back in his office stealing my speech who are you
gonna believe you lyin eyes though the government

well how do you feel about your husband coming
coming forward well I think that that's John

John is comfortable in what he says and what
he does and that if he what he sees he will

tell what he sees and I don't think anybody
is going to tell him but he can't and I'm

proud of him I think he does a good job and
he's telling the world what she should know

one of our greatest success stories was
getting general Jafari from Iran to DC

it took three months of negotiations
to get his visa Tafari was one of two

Iranian fighter pilots ordered to intercept
a UFO hovering over Tehran Iran in 1976 the

pilot in the first jet last instrumentation
and communication when he got too close to

the brilliant object so he headed back about ten
minutes later they scrambled a second jet which

I was piloting general Jafari scrambled
his f4 phantom jet to get a closer look

he gave us this Iranian Air Force reenactment
film featuring the original witnesses and

planes even though Jafar EES f-4 fighter jet
was travelling at the speed of sound there

was nowhere near fast enough imagine when
I was looking here at about 70 miles out

and he jumped all of a sudden 10 degrees
to my right in this angle 10 degrees this

part which it was traveling becomes about
twenty six point seven miles per moment I

don't say per second maybe maybe less
than a second nobody through Jafar was

flying towards the UFO when a smaller object
separated from it and headed right at him

his only instinct was to shoot at it
but that turned out to be a bad idea

all the instruments perf lecturing
the gardens in the radio so I was

really frightened so I decided to turn
away and I said if it comes closer than

about coal mines I will jump out so having
maneuvered away from the object Jaffar his

control panel returned to normal and
he regained contact with the tower

I'm opened up in a cave yet despite the United
States government's claim that they have not

investigated UFOs since the closing of Project
Blue Book in 1969 this Defense Intelligence Agency

report made in 1976 indicates otherwise it was
obtained through the Freedom of Information Act

so you think the reason why they're not telling
us is because they can't trust everyone they can

trust and the second one may be as I said they
don't want people to be panic and we don't take

sides on 360 we like to present you with facts and
information from different angles and let you make

up your own minds about things that's particularly
true with mysteries and for many Americans there's

no mystery greater than UFOs James Fox helped
organize today's UFO related event in Washington

he joins me now along with astronomer former Air
Force pilot and skeptic James McGee hey thanks for

being with us both of you why should what this
panel is calling for essentially it's some sort

of government investigation about why shouldn't
there be further investigation well there have

been investigations it was well hang on a second
let me just state this clearly one of the things

you keep interrupting me serve please one of the
things I want to mention very quickly is that the

official position for the Air Force is that they
terminated Project Blue Book in 1969 as there have

been no official investigations since then however
we found evidence to suggest the contrary on

a number of cases in Tehran the general said the
Americans were making discreet inquiries about the

case that excuse me there as well as Bentwaters
England the colonel said that the OSI came in

investigated that so you believe there is a
government investigation going on I always wanted

what they're making just they're making discreet
inquiries unofficially yes well UFOs are basically

a modern space-age mythology it's a it's a
conspiracy wrapped and superstition and myth where

does this superstition and myth come from and how
could it be so pervasive within a few months of

the original saucer report practically everyone
in America was conscious of flying saucers

now did you see a UFO i I did and the rest of
the account oh I didn't I it was unidentified

flying object okay it's like and so wait kidding
and then I would say where was it what did it

look like what were you doing how much had you
had it's all right it was probably some sort of

some other satellite or a fast-moving airplane
that they saw I wouldn't believe them I mean I

know there's been sightings random I'm not well
documented well Jay Leno once asked if these UFOs

extraterrestrial are so highly evolved how come
it is that they only address people nations in

the esta time that an exceptional UFO base the
the nature of the sighting was such that people

identify a large triangular platform with very
intensive spotlights also hovering being static

at a certain moment being able to fly at very low
speeds and then accelerating to very high speeds

and seconds in addition these objects didn't
make any noise it was only a humming noise

were there ever any any inquiries from the
American government to the Belgian Air Force

regarding unidentified flying objects yes
while some informal enquiries but nothing

formed I would have liked to see a formal request
but some people came to my office and asked about

this phenomenon and also what we thought about
it and asked to have a copy of a video which

was taken by one of the aircraft which try to
intercept one of these objects and I said yes

you can have a copy providing there is a formal
request and we never received a formal request I

like for porridge I do have a primary
contact now good morning everybody thank

you for coming this morning my name is
rubella and I fly our civilian airliner

as Captain I've been invited here due to my
sighting last a problem of multiple as yet

unidentified objects over the Channel
Islands region of the English Channel

thanks for joining us pilots and aircraft
passengers have confirmed sightings of a

large unidentified flying object off the coast
of Guernsey the mysterious shapes were spotted

earlier in the week and - described as a long
emotionless object that measured up to a mile wide

this way down farther than my 12 o'clock
level I've got a very bright object well

really bright yellow-orange object straight
ahead very flat platform independent people

oculus as we speak high five for forage I do have
a primary contact now very faint primary contact

just the left frosty or 11 o'clock this time
and range of about 40 miles very bright yellow

object looking dirty blooded a treat to the zone
asked us to look if we could see an object which

is being feed by a line at the moment they've
got something around 8 o'clock resembling with

the script 3 2 Roger what range of us might not
target around about the similar range to Albany

but my forwards confirmed on water patches
completed every offer from the island visual dead

ahead transfer how far probably five miles we stay
on the same size trips to be often in north north

northwest coast of opening a line 5/4 or would
you like to send down five for forage and sent

off to 2,000 feet the qhs 131 were you scared I
wasn't too happy why it's quite glad to get on the

ground and have a cup of tea we flew to Guernsey
an island off the northwest coast of France to

get some first-hand testimony where the sighting
took place here we met with captain ray Bowyer and

two of his passengers we're traveling back from
Southampton to to or Denis in in a colander I

had noticed ray looking out through the windscreen
with his binoculars which is quite unusual I saw

ray turn around and talk to someone behind him
while we were flying no it wasn't whirring from

the standpoint of flying but it was unusual and
he was gesturing to something down below or near

in the objects a second identical shape appeared
beyond the first both objects were of a flattened

disc shape with a dark area to the right they were
brilliant yellow with light emanating from with

him and I submitted them to be able to possibly
a mile across I pointed it out to John he had to

lean across me to be able to see it it was it
was like that this is a big object in the sky

very very big object and I didn't want to be too
close to it so there's at that time anyway where

we had to descend to land and with both objects
still visible and a lot of the passengers in the

back of the aircraft we descended through the two
thousand foot Hazen's layer and our side of it so

rate why didn't you bring this to the attention
of your passengers I mean normally when a pilot

sees something a bit of interest he says if
you look at to your left you'll see New York a

little bit away far away from them well it was
some I did one or alarm anybody at that point

there again as we got closer to these objects
there was no hiding it I mean they were just there

I've taken note of some of the differences between
the British and the US reporting system it appears

that attitudes on opposite sides of the Atlantic
are very different when it comes to the required

reporting and recording of this type of event
I would have been shocked if I was told that

the CIA in UK would obstruct an investigation
or if the CIA told me that what I had seen was

something entirely different but it seems that
POTUS in America I used to this sort of thing

here I returned home from Guernsey to find a DVD
sent to me from Salida Colorado listen carefully

to the six-year-old girl who points out a UFO
to her dad I'm not sure what the sounds are but

the object reminds me of what rain is past
news described seen it moved over that part

of sky there probably moved 500 it probably
moved 100 miles in a matter of a second or two

you see that now so big see going
they say you can't like I can't see

my neck my name is Josh Homme de Burgh I am
a retired Air Force captain during Air France

flight 35 what we do from this to London on 28
January 1994 I observed with my crew a UFO in

broad daylight near Paris and it looked like
this with a bank angle of 45 degrees it seemed

to be a huge flying disc it stabilized and
stopped moving but it was about 1,000 feet

wide the most incredible expected is that it
became transparent and disappeared in about

10 to 20 seconds my co-pilot chef Jared and
I quickly realized that what we were seeing

did not resemble anything known to us and we
reported our sighting to Russ traffic control

there is a crew of three percent first by the
correlation at the same time not the same place

at the same time and that means that we have had
something real over price one day a huge thing

good evening last week several people in
Stephenville Texas a small rural town of

about 15,000 70 miles southwest of Fort Worth
witnessed what many are calling a UFO James Fox

I know you've been probing this for a long time
we've never got an answer to this why do you

think the Air Force doesn't want this out well I
mean what are they gonna say we don't know what's

flying around in our airspace with it why can't
why can't they say that I think that possibly

could I wish they would and if the Air Force is
listening tonight why don't you tell us the truth

well I came in on Tuesday night a week and
a half ago started down and drive away and

I looked back here to the southwest just past
the windmill so I'd say maybe five miles away

there was a real bright light came on it it's
almost as bright as like a welding arc one of

the guys that was at my house that night called
up and said he wasn't coming back to my house

until we got armed guards and I said why is
that he said well there was a UFO flew over

your house Tuesday night I said I saw it I was so
distracted by what I saw that you could have had

you could have had a train go in front of me
and I would probably hurt it because I was so

focused on these lights but I do not remember
hearing any noise at all whatsoever how would

you describe the acceleration probably the the
speed of light and I tried keeping that with my

binoculars I couldn't this case so far qualifies
for that 5% the lack of sound the speed of the

object and apparently the military's interest
it's coming from that direction this way and I

did hear the Jets you know we're used to seeing
military aircraft in our skies here in this area

we're used to seeing you know the helicopters
and the fighter jets and the c-130s I mean we

know what those look like so when it comes to
military aircraft I am a trained observer so

another break here we're visiting with James Fox
filmmaker in in town doing research on the the

UFOs and interviews we'll take a break we're back
right after this good evening everyone welcome to

Dublin in Dublin the whole town showed up to
discuss this sighting my name is Steve Hudgens

I'm senior field investigator for MUFON we're down
here in investigate this extraordinary event it

was going so fast and didn't make any noise that
light seemed to be streaming and breaking around

it then ten minutes later he came back by and
that's when he had the two military jets chasing

it I've been a witness to this and give you all
the information I can you don't want to come

forward and say anything because they'll say oh
they're an idiot because I've thought that before

until I saw this I guarantee the jet whoever was
flying the jets they had a visual on it it was

incredible and listening to many witnesses and
then went to the editors of the local paper for

this story first broke Angela Joyner saw me on
CNN the night before and assumed I had all the

answers major Carl Lewis at Carswell I've talked
to him a lot and he said something of this size

would leave a sonic footprint much like what we
know as a tornado path it would just demolish

things on the ground why why don't we see that
I have no idea Angela and local radio station

mandatory fm introduced me to Ricky Sora's we
had a drink at the local bar where he agreed to

meet with me the following day aircraft in the
area they wouldn't normally be flying they told

me that Ricky had seen a lot more than lights in
the sky I used to thank the people that saw this

and came on camera and said this house stuff
man these guys need some help you know what it

happened to me and I can't change that I had a
hard time dealing with it so you looked at all

the way that direction you didn't see me looking
up Ricky said he could not see the edge of the

craft in any direction you couldn't see the edge
of it couldn't say they're done but I didn't know

this it's bigger you can't landing an airplane
oh man I believe nothing no sound nothing when it

moves from west right and nothing when it took off
holding his rifle and sometimes actually looking

through his scope Ricky stood under the craft
for about three minutes I love here have been

in that situation but very few times in my life
but I had to slow my mind down to actually think

about what to do with it the information that I
was receiving for the first time and that's what

I did I studied it you know I seen no nuts bolts
rivet seams no welds none of this it looked like

a piece of sheet metal you know it they wasn't
shiny it was a dull I don't know what you call

it matte finish me this is what I had a hard time
with was if something wants to leave in my mind it

should give it up and go like an airplane would
this did not live out this day completely flat

and it went at a 45-degree angle away and it
took off is such a high rate of speed that no

one describe it as if I would have blinked I would
have thought it just disappeared On January 21st

2008 Robert Powell and Glen Schultz received
radar data from the FAA this image was created

directly from that data each black dot and there
were over a hundred and forty represent radar

confirmation of an unknown object whose flight
path is seen heading towards Crawford ranch

I just want to know what it is you know why was
it here what was it is it ours you know I kind of

think although the military initially denied being
in the area the official explanation from the Air

Force is now a flight of f-16s after each witness
I meet I find it increasingly difficult to accept

the military's response I've actually stepped back
and tried to be the big picture I would like to

find out what it is then if people believe me okay
if they don't that's okay mercury astronaut Gordon

Cooper was the last American astronaut to go up
in space alone he orbited the planet 22 times

while stationed at Edwards Air Force Base in the
early 1950s Cooper was part of an event that has

never been explained well I was having some the
camera man film the installation of a percentage

and landing facility we were putting him into
the dry lake and they saw us or flew right over

and put down three low a year and landing out
on the dry lake bed and they went out picked up

their cameras and moved on out partying filming
and he left it off put the gear back in the well

timed out a very high rate of speed disappearing
the time he got back with the developed film I

was on the higher and higher and higher level
officer taught identity I mean he was the kernel

telling me do you know when the film arrived at
my desk I put it in the carrier pouch there would

be occurred there at my office by that time
already and they'd arranged for him to fly in

our base airplane back to Washington with these
films and do not run prints etc etc etc did you

watch the film we didn't have a chance to run it
I had a chance to hold it up to the wind and look

at it there's certainly good found did you ever
keep in touch with anybody about it or discuss

how would I keep in touch with anybody about it
there's no way within the military or within the

government of keeping track or something that
is classified unless you're directly involved

in it and I was not this meeting was a turning
point for my father Gordon Cooper was an icon of

his generation and my father was amazed by his
story at that point in time there's no doubt in

my mind that this vehicle was made at some other
place than here on earth yeah well Buck Rogers

and Flash Gordon coming through after the film
was sent to Washington that was never seen or

heard of again Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell
was the sixth man to walk on the moon he has met

with people in military and government positions
from several countries who have privately shared

with him information about UFOs seem to be well
documented events that represent flying craft that

do not match anything we have in an Earthbound
arsenal I felt that dr. Mitchell would know the

reasons for secrecy I can't answer that question I
think it's a long past time to open this up to the

public but the best answer is probably because
they don't know what to do about it in here

my father and I caught up with President Carter
at a book signing in San Francisco I don't really

know what happened to it I saw one but I don't
know what just disappeared did you ask when you

in president yes but there's a lot of different
answers and nobody those has proof or anything

the question of secrecy has puzzled me for
years I asked the panelists in DC to offer

possible explanations some of the questions
that man on street have and whoever wants to

address this can is why in your opinion would
any government hide this from the people are

not disclosed this type of information of
what's going on when there are witnesses

of sightings coming in they are very directed
to to pick up the issue to investigate because

they have no structure and you don't know
how to have a city to nominate the agendas

conocido to not NFP LoCascio i suppose real - I
mean as an SI sistema the conservación de poder

I suspect or at least five agencies in the US
government that have investigative capability

and do maintain files on UFOs the opinion I
think is asking for information it is ready

to believe that there is something serious if
we can convince the government it could change

good morning ladies and gentlemen my name is
jean-claude rim and I am an astronomer working

for the French Sante national de la certificate
from 1963 to 1998 I contributed to the French

committee report a sphere military study on UFOs
and national security released in 1999 camara

translates as committee for in-depth studies it
was in essence a high-level think-tank committee

included such members as four-star general
Bernard Nolan who was the former commander

of the french tactical air force and military
counselor to the prime minister as well as Andre

LeBeau former president of the National Center
for Space Studies and attorney-at-law Michele

Algar director of the kinetic group the kinetic
group published its findings in an historical 90

page report titled UFOs and defense what should
we prepare for the formation of the kinetic group

was initiated by French Air Force general Dennis
Letty kinetic concluded that about 5 percent of

the cases studied were inexplicable and that the
best explanation was what the authors called the

extra-terrestrial hypothesis with investigative
journalists Leslie Kane I flew to France to meet

general Leni we met the general at his home on
the outskirts of Paris we went over some of the

more puzzling encounters that led the group to
their conclusions and he saw the disc every pilot

sightings confirmed by radar very quickly I would
have recited in cases involving soil and plant

analysis from landing sites I had looked into
one of these cases myself farmer Renato Nicolai

from TransAm Provence reported that a disc-shaped
object landed in his garden in the late afternoon

before mustered a compose into us yet runa throat
when he told his wife she assumed he had heat

stroke and had hallucinate however scientific
analysis of the landing site showed high levels

of radiation and when I visited the site back
in 1999 almost 20 years later nothing had grown

in that spot kukuku this one I see the town of
Charles on pole vaults labeled the farmer a flying

saucer fanatic jacoba d turkey Saguna superbowl am
turkish indeed if he got this yasser he said [ __

] dirty but we're looking at I mean what is this
what is this photograph general Eddie also shared

with us some impressive photographic cases one of
these was featured on the cover of the committee

report mapping the ground developing a mapping
claim from the government of Costa Rica was flying

at 10,000 feet it had a high-resolution camera
running automatically under the fuselage taking

a picture every 17 seconds on one of the frames
this object was captured after careful analysis

by several scientists including Richard Haines and
Jacques Vallee it was determined that the object

captured on film was a real three-dimensional
airborne object it was announced that people

would panic if the government's announced well
there are the unidentified objects are real I

cannot say yes but I cannot say no
I asked the general to explain the

committee reports extra-terrestrial
hypothesis for us we think that the

best explanation is that object came from outside

we don't say they come from outside but
the best explanation is the [ __ ] pitous

in 2007 an investigative branch of
CNES the French equivalent of NASA

made sixteen hundred sightings spanning
five decades available to the public

I asked CNES for an interview I wanted to know
who allowed the release of these files and why

silver president is not national debt
especial Kanto until I decided home at

home would like deleted upon the reorganize
a Donny come mission the Hawaii the Vasant

transparent is a very bleak at the media we
reviewed several extraordinary cases some

even involved landings I asked him what his
personal beliefs were to [ __ ] problem on the

government of the patella due to a certain
gas on pretend Adebisi the exact estimate

daughter cough from probably more the this
observation that you recognize from Kuwait

to be huge SSA growled chemist one take
home these two are like home home for it

I wanted to know how releasing this
information might have affected the

people of France we took to the streets
did you follow up me who play to Akili

any fool knows Erdos Rafalski reposted
when i've loved it didn't you see a CEO

who set them to keep your men to fall sick
or have you heard of me I'm not in uniform

does it make you scared yeah I'm scared
too that they're gonna come and they're

gonna be hostile and they're gonna try and I
thinking they're gonna hurt us or do something

to the world do you think governments
know more than what they're telling us

apart from American governments yeah this
could be perceived because uh proven touc

so what do you do do you think that the British
government the mo D is preparing for any type

of disclosure do you think it's just Romina
is it going to happen it's not gonna be as

I say disclosure with a big D we're gonna be
disclosure with a small D in other words we

will be releasing the files but in May 2008 the
British government began the process of releasing

its entire archive of UFO files from 1991 through
to 1994 I was desk officer responsible for these

investigations these cases included incidents
where reliable witnesses such as police officers

and pilots reported structured craft performing
speeds and maneuvers significantly in excess of

anything that they'd seen military jet aircraft
perform in July of 2009 the Ministry of Defence

released this document it's a briefing
regarding the mass sighting over England

in 1993 in summary it states there would
seem to be some evidence on this occasion

that an unidentified object or objects of
unknown origin was operating over the UK

to the skeptics who say there's no evidence
I would say this the Ministry of Defence

in the United Kingdom has received 10,000 UFO
reports since 1950 not just lights in the sky

but structured craft sometimes tracked on radar
but don't take my word for it all this can be

viewed at the National Archives on the Ministry
of Defence website so the evidence is right out

there the phenomenon has not changed a great
deal has not changed materially since 1947 and

I'm quite sure that neither we nor the Russians
had anything like the capabilities demonstrated

by the UFOs in 47 I don't think we have now
thousands of witnesses no credible witnesses

which can confirm that indeed this so activities
which cannot be related to terrestrial activities

they're not aerodynamic there's something else
and the suspicion is that their antigravity or

some kind of electromagnetic gravitic drive to
them which would explain a lot of things that

goes on including the electromagnetic
effects on vehicles and so forth

furthermore it is not customary for countries
to test their secret weapons or secret devices

in 133 different countries all over the place
and also from a moral standpoint I doubt very

much that we would have sent astronauts to the
moon using antiquated chemical fuels if we had

a way of doing it much more efficiently if
we have then it's criminal that's being kept

strictly in military hands because this would
solve all of our energy problems in the world

so I've given up the whole idea that it could
possibly be from any place on earth why don't tell

the public what's going on to accept that some
object over fly and the country being unable to

clear the sky of the you cannot admit that do you
think it's possible there was from another world

I my Air Force training says I can't think
that way okay a story this big there's no way

it could be kept secret from the public
what do you say to someone like that it

says that well somebody's kept a pretty
cigarette for quite a while I don't think

our country needs to reopen its official
investigation that it shut down in 1969

the United States government can no longer
shun an international dialogue about this

phenomena and we invite the government to work
in cooperation with countries as represented

on both sides of me here today this position
is supported by President Clinton's former

chief of staff John Podesta Podesta also an
adviser to President Obama spoke at a 2002

press conference organized by the Coalition
for freedom of information I think it's time

to open the books on questions that have
remained in the dark under the question

of government investigations of UFOs it's
time to find out what what the truth really

is that's out there we ought to do it really
because it's right we ought to do it because

the American people quite frankly can handle
the truth and we do it because it's the law

come and testify there was one last thing I
asked Jack Padme the man who helped release

Frances UFO FILES what advice he would give
to the American government warship at the

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our the red Ephesians is a pharmacy wanna see

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eno-san Macedo Alejandra knows he has infidelity
I've met with you or for witnesses from around

the world military officers politicians and
everyday people like you and me and he says

its target over here they come forward
with nothing to gain and everything to

lose because they want answers not the same old
explanations of swamp gas military flares weather

balloons or misidentified aircraft but the truth
there's no reason for me not to say what I saw I

had nothing hired I have nothing to gain maybe
somebody involved with the US government knows

the origin of these craft but I don't all of a
sudden 10 degrees to my right they're ours then

somebody has been hiding revolutionary technology
for over 50 years I've never seen anything go so

fast in my life as that thing went yeah if any
of them are not man-made then we're not alone

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