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Can't start my show without giving a good life anecdote.
This is one that's for the books.
Pay attention.
When you take steps, it's one foot after the other.
Steps can't be taken if you don't brush your teeth.
What I'm saying is every morning starts off with a smile.
Come on, now.
That one kind of made sense.
* *
Whew, another doozy!
And what doozy this one will be.
A comedy legend on the show today.
Three-time Emmy winner and avid car collector.
He hosted the number-one late night show for 22 years,
and I'm lucky to have him with me tonight.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jay Leno.
I think what you took is called Orange Sunshine, okay?
-No, no. -It's a hallucinogenic from the '60s.
-No, Jay. -What are you talking about?
What do you mean what am I talking about? That's a--
that's an anecdote. I give these life anecdotes.
-I-I say things. -Here, I'll give you one.
-Okay. -Behind every successful man is a woman.
-Okay. -And behind every unsuccessful man,
-there are two women. -Okay, that's a-- yeah, it's good.
Right there. Jay Leno, ladies and gentlemen.
Jay Leno, what's up, man?
Nothing. You called me. This underground bunker--
Look, we are-- it's hard to believe
we're 60 stories underground.
This is amazing.
In case of a nuclear-- is that why you're here?
-This is what you've done? -I'm scared. I'm scared.
That elevator ride, it was seven minutes coming down here.
-This is unbelievable. -I'm scared, Jay.
-(stammers) You should be. -I'm living in fear.
-This is-- this is where I'm at. -Yeah.
-We're in my wine cellar, man. -Yeah.
Um, this is my somm.
This is my somm. My-my-my sommeli-- my sommelier.
-We just say "somm," Mr. Leno. How are you? -Nice to see you.
-What is that? That's... -KEVIN: I've been having trouble pronouncing the word.
King Richard Reser-- I'm not familiar with that.
-A little Pinot Noir. -Oh, okay.
-Yeah, Jay don't drink. -2019 Russian River.
-You know, I don't... -Nice.
I don't get to Dollar General that often, so...
KEVIN: Okay. Well, this is-- (laughs)
Okay, Jay, for you, uh,
what I'm going to do right after this amazing pour
that I get for my wine, I did--
-myself and you... -DLYNN: Enjoy.
-Thank you, man. Appreciate you. -Thank you.
-Very welcome. Mr. Leno, thank you. -Thank you, sir.
Uh, I got you a, uh, a water somm, right?
-This is a guy who specializes in water... -Okay.
-and-and all types of water, right? -Oh, so, I-I get the white guy.
-Okay. -There you-- Yes, yeah, I got the Black guy.
Is that what we've come down to now?
We have to... Really?
Are we that careful about, "Oh, my God"?
Do you think-- there's not a lot of Black water somms
-out there, Jay. -All right. Okay.
Yeah, I'll have some-- Yeah, that would be great.
Wonderful. Do you prefer sparkling or still?
-It's not that. -Uh...
I have one from Australia.
It's a still water.
-Or I have a sparkling water from Spain. -From Spain.
-Uh, I'll take the still water. -From Spain.
-Still water from... -Still?
-Yeah, the flat water. -From Australia, yeah.
-From Australia. -I got you some still water from Australia, Jay.
-That's how much I like you. -Oh, let me see how this-this, yeah.
-You know how much that water cost me? -I don't know.
Huh? I don't know, either. Was this expensive?
-Oh, yeah. -Okay. All right.
-Well, it's hydrating, at least. -Oh, that's Australia.
-Is it? Can you tell? -Yeah.
-Here we go, cheers, my friends. -Yeah. Yeah.
-Thank you, I appreciate you. -Thank you, thank you, nice to see you.
Do you know that-- Did you know that they have...?
Well, you're gonna hold onto your money.
No, go ahead. What'd you say?
Did you know that they have water somms?
No, no, I didn't know.
I thought a psalm was something you did in church.
-No, no, Jay! -Oh.
I don't, I don't know how to pronounce the word.
-Okay. -I have trouble saying, uh, "sommelier."
You don't have to convince me.
I'm-I'm... (laughs)
Uh, let's talk, man.
-Okay. -22 years.
-Yeah. Yeah. -In your era...
We did 4,631 shows.
-When-when you look back and you think about that, right? -Yeah.
You still got the number in your head.
4,000-and-something episodes. I mean, it's...
Good retention-- 4,631, it was.
4,631, right?
-When you look back at that and you realize all the people -Mm-hmm.
that you've talked to, uh... all of the entertainers
-that have come through your particular platform... -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
that you've amplified, you know?
You've-you've helped make careers.
You've helped boost opportunities,
-from comedians to actors, et cetera. -Sure. Okay.
Do you, do you look at it like that, or no?
I-I-- Yeah, I hope it helped some people
and helped their careers. I mean, I enjoyed it.
It was a lot of fun. I mean, to me, 90% of the show
-was doing the monologue. -Mm-hmm.
Because there are only 18 guests in the whole world
-that really mean anything rating-wise. -Mm-hmm.
You'll find that by show 18.
And-and, really, everybody else is just--
so you have to have something else-- a monologue,
comedy, something to keep them interested.
Because we live in an era now where, in the old days,
even before me, you did Johnny,
-and that was it. -Mm-hmm.
By the time we came along, me and Dave,
people were on "Entertainment Tonight," "AM:PM" magazine,
"Good Morning" this...
So you had to have something more, so we--
You know, Johnny used to do a six, seven-minute monologue,
and we were doing 12, 14 minutes 'cause jokes
-are what kept people there. -Yeah.
Was the goal late night, or did you stumble into that?
Did you stumble into the late-night...
Well, you know, I said at my high-school graduation
that, "I'm gonna go out to California to see if I can be
host of 'The Tonight Show.'" "Oh-ho! Leno, you jerk..."
(mutters) Why? Why is that such an impossible dream?
"Ah, you're an idiot, you are!" (mutters)
So, naturally, when I go home, "Hey, guys..." (chuckles)
You know, I have the old yearbook there.
Uh, so, I mean, I thought it'd be nice if it happened.
-Mm-hmm. -I wouldn't have-- you know,
I've-I've been happy at whatever level
-I was at in my career. -Okay.
I was so happy to make a living as a comedian.
I mean, I could buy a house, I got married.
And that was my-- you know, saying on my, on my income tax,
"Oh, I'm a comedian." Oh, wow, that's-that's pretty good.
-Mm-hmm. -I didn't have to have another job.
So I was always happy, you know?
I-I never even asked what a job paid.
I just did the job, and if you're any good,
the money would come. That was always my attitude.
'Cause the same show I do for free
is the same show you get paid.
When you go down to the clubs, you get up, and you screw around
on stage, you're having as much fun as you do
-when you're playing a stadium show. -Absolutely.
-Absolutely. -Probably more, because it's really loose,
and you can take your time, so to me,
I was never concerned with it. I wasn't one of those,
"Oh, I have to do this. I have to do that."
I'll just see if it comes. I was probably one of the last guys
to get "The Tonight Show," of the people I started with.
I was 27 when I did that, and I thought I was the oldest guy
-in the world having to do the show. -Mm-hmm.
So, but then I realized, no, that's not the case.
But, you know, when you're starting out in comedy,
days are weeks, weeks are months,
months are years, and, you know, if they're coming
to see you next Wednesday for your audition,
well, that five or six days leading up to that,
you're like, "Oh," you're doing this set over and over,
and it seems like it's never going to come, you know?
So-so I can't say
I would've been disappointed if I didn't get it,
-but I was certainly happy I did. -Mm-hmm.
My question to you is, you know,
as-as I look back now, right,
-I think about how many times I've done your show. -Mm-hmm.
KEVIN: I think about how our relationship has grown,
and, of course, it's grown from me touching the platform
and-and us having a good time.
Well, I don't think touching really played much
-of a role in our relationship, really. -Okay.
-There wasn't a lot of touching. -No, no touching. Yeah.
You know, I don't want to give the impression
that you got where you are by touching.
-okay, because that-that hurts you. -Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
-Not me. They know I... -Thank you. Thank you for clear...
But you, of course, would be the one who-- yeah, so...
-Yeah, thank you for clearing that up for me. Yeah. -Yeah, yeah, yeah!
I don't want people to think that your touching had anything
-to do with you getting ahead. -No.
I-I mean, it may have. I don't--
What I'm saying is I don't know.
-Yeah, not from you. -I don't, I don't know.
-It didn't, it didn't happen on you. -Right.
Didn't happen to me. Okay, go ahead.
When-when the show ends,
I want clarity as to why.
There-there was so much conversation.
-So much... -You mean when I stopped doing the show?
-Yes, when you stopped doing it. -Oh, um...
What was the, what was the reason behind the departure?
Well, you know, at some point, I shouldn't have to know all
of Jay-Z's music, okay? I mean, uh... at some point,
a 65-year-old guy
knowing all the hip-hop songs seems ridiculous.
-Mm-hmm. -You know, I think when you're mid-40s
and you're talking to Cindy Crawford, it's sexy.
When you're 65 years old, you're the creepy old guy.
-Mm-hmm. -I-I mean, it's just--
I mean, it got to the point where I would have people on.
"My next guest has sold more albums than Elvis
and the Beatles combined. Please welcome--" Who is this?
-Yeah, you had no idea. -What--? I never heard the song.
-I don't know who this guy is. -Wow.
I mean, that used to just make me laugh.
Because I don't know who that person is.
I don't know who it is.
So I was there-- 22 years is a long run,
and that was fine, so inevitably,
you have to leave at some point, and it was fine.
So you just-- it was-- you pretty much felt like,
-"You know what?" -You know something? I'm a stand-up comedian.
-Mm-hmm. -I ended the show on a Thursday night.
And Friday, I had three nights in Florida.
I went back to being a stand-up, I...
To me, I made my living as a stand-up.
I never touched a dime of "Tonight Show" money.
-I ju-- Yeah, yeah, yeah. -I've heard that. Is that really true?
Yeah, it is true. I never did.
I always, I always wanted to be hungry.
If I didn't work this week, I'd go,
"I don't have any money." Well, of course I do,
but in my mind, I didn't.
So I would always have a gig.
I mean, I tried to do 150 gigs a year
when I was doing "The Tonight Show," and once it ended,
I was doing about 210 till the COVID thing hit.
-So, uh... -Jay, you never touched
-the money from "The Tonight Show"? -No, no.
'Cause I always lived on what I made as-- because I'm
a stand-up comedian. You know something? (chuckles)
TV is like-- the best show-business advice--
don't fall in love with a hooker, okay?
It's not gonna work out. And that's what TV is, okay?
I mean, TV is a lot of fun, and you had a good time.
"Hey, my wallet's gone. Hey!
What?! Hey! What?! (mutters) Oh, that's the way-- Okay."
The reason, the reason TV pays a lot of money is,
when you get screwed, at least you have some money!
-Yeah. -Okay?
And, I mean, I see so many people heart-- "My show ended."
(cries) Well, yes, it's gonna end.
The ratings went down, or whatever it might be,
or audience changed. I mean, this is not--
I had something to fall back on.
I was a stand-up comedian, so I went back to that,
which was my true lo--
You know, Letterman was a broadcaster from the--
Letterman didn't like to do stand-up.
We all started out together, and Dave would open
for Tony Orlando and Dawn, and he just hated it.
I mean, he wasn't-- that... * Tie a yellow ribbon *
-Hey, here comes the-- -He didn't, he didn't--
-that wasn't his thing? -No, he was a great, you know, he was a great stand-up.
-Mm-hmm. -Dave was a great wordsmith.
He could weave phrases and words together in a way
that I just went-- I remember I went up to him, I said,
"How do you--? Man, how do you do that?"
And he said to me, "Well, how can you be so relaxed on stage?"
'Cause I was loud and, and loquacious and verbose.
(stammers) But the jokes weren't that funny, but I could,
I could sell it. You know what I'm saying?
So a lot of times-- and I give you that compliment, too,
in the fact that you could take something that's not funny.
I don't mean that sarcastically, but the way you say it
-and the way you react to it, oh, is really funny. -Mm-hmm.
Uh, you know? So when I got a TV show, I was happy.
I realized this could end at any time.
And, when, eventually, it did,
well... that's fine.
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In the beginning stages, um, you know,
I'm-I'm familiar with the story.
I-I saw the film, uh,
where they kind of, you know, tried to tell
-the story of you and Dave. -Right.
-Um... -Boy, that Australia's delicious, isn't it?
(Kevin laughs)
Uh, you and David's relationship in the beginning,
was that relationship a tough one,
or was it always, uh, a good one?
-Because you guys came from the same... -You know something?
-I think there's mutual respect. -Okay.
I still think he's one of the greatest.
I think he's the best talk-show host.
I think Dave was a better broadcaster,
-and I was probably a better stand-up. -Mm-hmm.
Or somebody might say, "No, you suck," or whatever.
But-but, I mean, that's sort of my opinion.
-Okay. -And the way-- we each came out with something.
-Okay. -Dave was the critics' darling.
And he got the praise.
And I got the ratings, and that's fine.
Or-or perchance it could've gone the other way.
-Mm-hmm. -But I think we each left with something,
and that's good. It wasn't like either one of us
-got totally humiliated and driven out of the game. -Mm-hmm.
-So that was okay. -Do you feel that the times today,
did they play any part, as well, in your departure?
Like, with this-- social media growing at the,
-at the pace that it was... -You know something?
Here are the rules, okay?
The rules change.
Either you-you change with the rules or you die.
-Mm-hmm. -You know, I-I equate this to,
in the '70s, in the automobile industry,
all the American car manufacturers,
"We can't meet these emission rule--
factories will close. We'll go out a loser."
They spent millions throwing money at lobbyists
in Washington, "Change the rules, don't do this."
And the Japanese walked in and said, "What are the rules?
"Okay, and what emissions would you like to meet? Okay."
They went back to Japan, and they came back
with the Honda CVCC engine that-that met all the emissions,
got 40 miles to a gallon, and made them
-the powerhouse they were for 20 years. -Mm-hmm.
Until America realized, "Okay, we got to stop throwing money
at lobbyists and get engineers back at GM and Ford,"
which they've done now and done a great job
and turned it around. And same thing with comedy.
If I go to place and they go, "Hey!
Well, we don't do drug jokes or sex jokes."
All right, I take those out of my act,
-and I don't do them here. -Mm-hmm.
I don't find that hard to do.
People say, "Oh, you're a sellout."
You're not a sellout. You're-you're--
You have a customer-- the customer's buying your service.
If you don't want to do it, don't do it.
-Absolutely, mm-hmm. -Don't-don't take the job, you know.
-Do you feel, now, as a comedian... -Mm-hmm.
...and you're saying, like, what you said.
The day that you stopped, you had dates
-in Florida on the following day. -Right. Right.
You're still an active stand-up comic.
Do you feel like comedy, uh, is suffering or has suffered
-um, with the changes, as well? -Well, any-any performance has suffered,
it's merely because you can't have an audience anymore,
or you have an audiences like this... (muttering)
-You know? -Yeah. Yeah.
You know, uh, so it's like...
I feel like I'm, if I'm performing at somebody's
front door, and they're watching me through the letter box,
you know, and you got to, "Can you...?"
'Cause, you know, you look at people and, if they're smi--
oh, you knew you... (mutters)
-With the mask, it's tough. -Yeah, I'll give you an example.
I-I was dating this girl once, and she goes,
"Oh, my parents are coming to the show." I said, "Okay."
So her parents come to the show and...
they're sitting, like, right there, so I'm on stage,
"Ba-da-da-da," killing.
I look over at him.
-(Kevin chuckles) -(Jay vocalizing)
I think, "Okay, I'll do my parents stuff."
(vocalizing)
And this guy, nothing. I'm thinking,
geez, this guy, like, this guy doesn't crack a smile, you know?
So he-he comes back.
"Good show. I really enjoyed it."
And she says to me, "My dad has Bell's palsy.
He can't move his..." I go, "Why didn't you tell me that
before the show?! I'm out there, working my ass off!"
(stammers) And he's sitting there like this,
watching the show. I'm thinking I'm trying
to get something out of this guy.
You know, I'm... (vocalizing)
Nothing. "I really enjoyed the show.
That was terrific." Oh, well, thank you, sir.
Why didn't you tell, just say, "Oh, my Dad's got Bell's..."
-(laughing) -Stupid.
Because you are, you're so serious about the craft, right?
Is that really bigger? Yeah, okay, yeah.
What does the craft do for you?
Like-like, I know, I know why I need comedy.
Comedy is my outlet. Comedy is my...
You know, a lot of people talk about therapy
-Right. -and going to see thera--
That's not what I personally do.
-Right. -Comedy, the stage,
that acts as my-my therapeutic... thing.
Like, that's me getting whatever I want to get out.
-Right. -I'm talking, I'm-I'm releasing.
Whether good or bad, I'm comfortable with that,
and I know that I need that.
Do you feel like you need that stage?
It does something for you?
It gives you a sense of purpose at this point in your life?
Well, I don't know if I need the stage.
I need the human contact.
-Mm. -Like, I'm talking to you now.
-Mm-hmm. -It's the same as doing a show.
I-I feel the same. It's just communicating
with people and having fun.
I don't feel that I'm, you know, baring my soul or anything.
I'm just trying to-- you know, there's nothing harder
-to do than write a joke. -No, absolutely.
There's nothing funny to me, though, when you see comedians:
"I'd like to talk seriously now."
-(snoring) You know? -Mm-hmm.
-Write a joke, just write a joke. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Would you please just write your joke?
And-and there's nothing harder than writing a joke,
like when I go on "The Tonight Show" now,
I do stand-up. I don't go out,
"You know, in my day, Jimmy, I'll tell you what, we--"
-Yeah, nobody cares. Nobody cares. -(Kevin laughing)
They don't. Nobody cares.
Just shut up. Tell your joke and go home.
Thank you. Goodbye. Nobody cares what you think.
Nobody cares what it was like when you did it.
Just shut up, you know?
It's really-- it doesn't. It doesn't.
All they want to do is, they'll go, "Oh, that was funny,"
or, "That wasn't v-- that wasn't very funny."
You know, I mean, that's-that's all they care about.
That's why, that's why they're watching.
'Cause you're a comedian. Write joke.
Tell joke.
Get check-- very simple.
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Who is Jay Leno's top three?
Give me your top three comedians.
Top three comedians?
Well, I like, you know, I do like,
I do like all the comics.
I mean, Seinfeld and I go way back.
-KEVIN: Seinfeld's amazing. -JAY: Is fun.
-Uh, you're terrific. -Thank you.
Uh, I like John Mulaney. He's good.
-KEVIN: John Mulaney's great. -John Mulaney's great.
-Mm-hmm. -This new guy, Nate Bargatze is really good.
KEVIN: I know Nate. Nate's really good, funny guy.
He's really good. Um, I-I like people,
I like people that work clean,
not because I'm offended by obscenity.
It's just the fact that...
it's ea-- you know, it's harder to work clean.
-It is. -You know, when I started, you had to work clean.
-It is. -Uh, it changed. I remember Rodney did a...
(laughs) ...an HBO special he hosted,
and he fired a guy 'cause he wasn't dirty enough.
-Rodney Dangerfield. -Yeah, right, said,
"You're not dirty enough, you know, you got to be dirty."
And the kid was like, "Well, I thought I had to be clean."
"No, no. You weren't dirty enough."
-I'll tell you a funny Rodney story. You'd like to know this. -Okay.
By the way, your stories are always legendary.
-I-I could do stories all day. -Okay, anyway, Rodney--
You know, as a comedian, you know the other comedians' acts.
-Mm-hmm. -I like to watch comedians
the way other people listen to music.
I like the ebb and the flow and the way...
I like, you know, the way they talk.
So one day, Rodney's on "The Tonight Show."
And he's sweating a little bit, like he always does.
And I'm watching him-- he's a little like this, you know?
And he's-he's getting the laughs.
And I said to Debbie, our producer.
I said, "Call the paramedics.
I think Rodney's having a stroke."
She goes, "What are you talking about?"
I said, "I think he's having a stroke.
Just call the paramedics. Just-just call them."
"Oh, okay."
Well, he did have a stroke.
And they took him to the hospital, okay.
So I went to see him in the hospital,
and he gets out of hospital and then he had another stroke,
uh, a little while later,
and this one laid him out.
This is-- he was in a coma.
So Joan calls me one day, and she says, uh,
"Uh, Jay, Rodney's in a coma and...
"he can't see and he, I mean, he can't react to anything,
"but I think he can hear us.
So would you--?" I said, "Yeah, of course."
So I go on, and I'm talking to Rodney, you know,
and Joan says to me-- and Rodney's lying there.
And Joan says, "Rodney."
Uh, she goes, "Jay,
"put your finger in Rodney's hand.
"Rodney, if you know it's Jay,
just squeeze his finger, if you can."
So I put my finger in his hand, I feel a little squeeze,
and I go, "Rodney, that's not my finger," right?
-(laughing) -So Rodney does this.
And she goes, "Aah! He moved! He moved!"
And Joan goes, "He moved! He moved!" And-and he moved.
And I-- oh, and I felt so good that I made Rodney laugh,
you know, and he didn't--
He-he died soon after that, but...
-But you... -I-I... I just remember that.
I just remember he went, he went like this,
-'cause he did hear the joke, and I thought... -It's always the laugh.
Yeah, and-and it, yeah, and it's about the laugh.
And it was, yeah, it was really a tender moment and, uh,
just one of those moments that really make--
You tell that to some people, they go, "How horrible,"
-but comics understand what it is. -No, comics--
-What are you talking about, it's... -I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember, I remember, uh, Patrice O'Neal...
JAY: Oh, boy, he was a great comic.
KEVIN: Unbelievable comic. We're at Patrice's funeral, right?
And, you know, every-every comic
from New York, Jay, came to Patrice's funeral.
We're all there and...
comics start to go up and, you know, are speaking
and saying things just about Patrice.
And the funeral slowly morphed
into one of the best comedy shows
-that... -Yeah, that's funny.
that you've ever seen.
I'm talking Rich Vos, Colin Quinn,
Jim Norton, Bill Burr, myself,
Keith Robinson. I mean, you-you... you name it.
(stammers) Robert Kelly.
Uh, I mean, the list goes on and on.
But comics were coming up and giving their best
15-minute sets, but involving Patrice.
-Right. -And it really made you understand
-we speak a language of our own, right? -Right, right, right.
And-and that language that we speak always,
it always involves the laugh.
-There's nothing more important than the laugh. -Oh, yeah.
And that's-that's what we always want and, you know,
I think sometimes it's hard for people today
to understand that a comic
means no real harm.
-Yeah. Right, right. -He's going after the laugh.
and in doing so,
you know, the-the bullshit can happen
when the comic's like, "Oh, my God, I stepped in it,"
but he was just trying to go for the laugh,
-because that's-that's the most important thing. -No, I know, I know. I-I get it.
Give me another comic, right,
that-that you have had personal experiences with,
like, that has really impacted your life.
-Oh, Kevin Rooney. Uh... -Wow.
Uh, oh, there's just so many. Uh, well, Seinfeld.
So we all started out together. You know, when we started,
all the comics would come to one another's "Tonight Show."
You know, people think it's, like, this horrible,
cutthroat business, but other comics will always get you
more work than any agent.
-You know, Steve Martin brought Johnny to see me. -Wow.
And-and Harvey Korman brought Johnny in to see me again.
And, you know, I brought, uh, Johnny in to see, um,
uh, Ellen DeGeneres, and-and... and we all help one another.
So-so, Johnny, at this point, you know,
in-in this era when you were coming up,
Johnny was the...
-Oh, yeah, yeah. -He-he was the-the Mecca. Like, it was...
-Well, till the end. Yeah, sure, sure. -Wow.
-Oh, yeah. I mean... -Wow. And it was, and it was--
And-and was Johnny, was Johnny, um...
was he receptive? Like, was he a guy
that-that was open about, you know, expressing
-who he felt was funny or who he thought was talented? -Yeah.
Well, you have to understand, we were young.
We weren't kids. We were young adults in our early 20s.
Johnny was a man.
-Mm. -And, you know, I grew up in a house
where you-you said, "Mr. Carson."
I wouldn't, I wouldn't call him Johnny.
-Mm. -"Uh, Mr. Carson." "Call me Johnny, would ya?"
So that was always awkward when I'd do "The Tonight Show"
with him, because "Well, anyway, Mr. Carson..."
Uh, I just felt weird. So when Letterman got his show
and I go, "Hey, Letterman, nice tie," you know,
and I could trash him like I would in a club or something,
and it-it just became much looser.
So there was always a-a reverence and respect
for Johnny that... it-it wasn't like he was another comic.
He was the comic.
You know, it's-it's like Eddie Murphy
to my generation.
-Oh, sure, yeah. -Right? So, Eddie would
-occasionally pop in to comedy clubs. -Right.
He would occasionally pop in and sit in the back.
And when Eddie came in, you always knew,
-because comics just kept looking up. -Right.
E-Every comic just kept looking up,
and the reference was, "Eddie's up there."
And for some reason, there was a thing that you felt.
You felt like if you looked up
and you saw Eddie laugh,
-well, that equaled success. -Right. Sure.
To some degree, it equaled, "Oh, my God."
Well, it did. It did equal success.
It's a different stamp of approval. Right?
Yeah. Yeah, because if he liked it...
-Yeah. I mean, -It's... I mean, it's gold.
there were so many shows. You did Merv Griffin
and Mike Douglas, but Johnny Carson was the one
that put you on... If Johnny laughed,
well, then that was, you know.
'Cause the-the big thing with Johnny was,
was it the couch or the, it was the stage, right? It was like...
If you got called over to the couch, you know,
that whole, that whole thing.
But-but every comic didn't get called over to the couch.
-No, no, no. No. Sometimes, yeah. -It was some of them.
Some of them got called if Johnny felt it.
-And if you got called to the couch, -Right.
it was a major thing for you in your career.
Right, right, yeah. I think that's fair to say.
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Jay Leno. (chuckles) Jay...
What is a Jay Leno? I-I don't...
Jay spends his money
-on what I, too, love. -Yeah.
You are the biggest car enthusiast that I know of.
JAY: Well, I like-- Anything that rolls, explodes
and makes noise, I like.
When did you say, "I'm going to do this
at the highest level"?
Like, did this, did your love for cars
and the want to collect cars at the level that you do start...
Well... the interesting thing was, I realized
-I-I collect the stories more than the cars. -Mm.
'Cause a lot of times, the story is so good
that it makes you want the car.
-You know? -Okay.
I mean, I had a 19, uh, 53 Hudson Hornet.
And this lady calls me up, 94 years old,
"Hi, Mr. Leno. Uh, I've got a '50,
uh, a '51 Hornet, uh, I want to sell you."
I said, "You know, I got a '53. It's the same car."
"Will you come look at mine? It's the only car we ever had.
"My husband and I drove it. We bought it new in New Jersey
"in '51 and drove it across country to California
with our kids," and, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.
"Will you just come and look at it?" Said, "Uh, okay."
So, I go out and look at it, and it's-- He died in '96.
This is about, uh, 2002-3.
And she said, "Would you buy it? Please?"
I said, "Okay." So I bought it.
So I get it back to my garage.
It takes about two years to get it all finished.
I said, "I wonder if she's still alive."
So, I call, and now she's 96.
"Hello." "Hi, it's Jay Leno." "Oh, Jay!"
I said, "The car is all finished.
Uh, you want to go for a ride?" "Oh, I'd love--
I got to get my hair done." I said, "Uh, okay."
Now this woman is 96, no hearing aid, no glasses.
And she goes, "Can the kids come? Can the kids come?"
I-I said, "Yeah, sure, bring the kids."
Well, the kids are 72 and 74, okay.
So I got out there, and the two kids
have got her blindfolded, right, and she's touching the car,
doing this, and then they take the blindfold-- "Oh!"
She starts crying, the car looks so nice, you know?
I say, "You want to go for a ride?" She goes,
"Can the kids come?" "Yeah, put the kids in the back."
So the kids are in the back, and we're talking
and she's telling stories. Now the 72 and the 74-year-old
start doing this to each other, poking,
and she started, "I-I told you two!"
And she's whacking the crap out of them, she's...
"I told you two, if you can't
when Mr. Leno's taking us for a ride--"
And-and the three of them are just screaming laughing,
just having the time of their lives, you know?
and she's, and she's really whacking 'em in the head.
I mean, she's just, like, I thought she was gonna
put their eye out, you know, and th-they're just having
the time of their lives. And then the two kids are telling me
that when they were teenagers, their dad had
this 15-year-old car, and they were so embarrassed
that the-the dad would drop them off
-three blocks from school so the kids wouldn't see it. -Mm-hmm.
Their dad had to-- and, of course, now it's a classic.
And it was just so much fun. And that lady lived
to be 104 years old.
-But it-it, the story is so great. -The story attached to the car.
Yeah, I like the-- Yeah, the story is what makes it.
The story attached-- You told me one, um,
when-when you told me about the lady.
It was-- I-I'm not sure what it was.
Was-was it the bike that-that you ended up buying
that was Elvis's bike or something?
-No, I never-never bought Elvis's bike. -What was it?
What-- Whose bike did you buy? You bought something.
It was somebody-- somebody, you bought something,
and you went to go see something,
and later found out that it was a famous person's.
No, no, that's not true.
But this is what happens when you don't do research
-on this show. The, uh... Yeah, yeah, yeah. -I don't do research.
Okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna found out
what it is, and-and then I'm gonna test you.
First of all, you're not gonna "found" out what it is,
-you're gonna "find" what it is. -I'm-a find out what it is.
-I'm drinking wine. Yes. -Find out what it is. And I know, I know, I could see.
-I'm drinking the wine. -Yeah, yeah.
-I'm gonna find out what it is. -This is why I drink Australian water only.
No, you drink water because something happened
-that you don't want to tell us when you drank one time. -No, no, th-that's not true.
-That's not-- but that's not true. -You've never drank?
-No, I never drank. -Never?
-No. No. -What's the reason? There has to be a reason.
It-it doesn't interest me. I-I...
you know, it's just not something--
I was always the designated driver in high school.
I was always the guy that would drive the drunk kids home.
And-and so, it-it's just nothing that ever appealed to me.
-You didn't like the way they looked. -Here-here's the thing.
I'll tell you why. This, again, is show business.
I always tell people,
"If you can physically make it to the stage for seven years,
-you'll be successful," and most people can't. -Mm-hmm.
Too drunk, too straight, too gay, too some--
There's some reason-- jealousy, envy.
There's always some reason, other than their talent,
that they don't make it to the stage.
Um, you know, Sam Kinison,
classic example of this, just spun out of control.
Funny, hilarious.
Just spun out of control, because it's like the boar
where the horns grow into your own head.
You just become so crazy.
You know, the idea is to just try to keep a lid on it,
try to keep a certain amount of control,
try to keep moderation.
And most guys-- men and women, rather--
that don't make it, don't make-- it has nothing to do
-with their ability to be funny. -Mm.
They're either jealous of other comics,
or they're so sick of their act, they hate doing it,
or there's-there's just some reason why.
Other things, other things have gotten in the way.
How many, how many people we know have spun out of control,
-I know tons. -and it-it had nothing to do with--
it wasn't 'cause they weren't funny.
They didn't spin out of control onstage
because people walked out 'cause it wasn't funny.
There was some other reason, you know?
I mean, the classic example is Richard Pryor, the greatest.
-Yeah. -Uh, you know, I followed Richie every night
when he was doing his, he was breaking in his,
um, "Sunset-- Live on the Sunset Strip" album.
-Did you guys have a relationship? -Again, like Carson,
you know, sometimes, "Hey, Mr. Pryor,"
sometimes it was "Richie." He was always Richie.
He wasn't Richard Pryor then. It was always Richie.
Uh, and there was nobody funnier.
And I realize-- And a lot of people say,
"I don't want to follow Richie. He's too good."
I'd said, "Well, how am I gonna know if I'm any good?"
And after following Richie, I realized I didn't have an hour.
I had maybe 16 minutes, but I would tape it.
And if I got 16 minutes' wor-worth of laughs
after an hour following Richie,
the next time I got onstage, I just did 16 minutes.
-Mm. -And that's how you grow.
I mean, you know this-- comics go, "I'm not playing that club.
The audience suck." That's right!
Go where the audiences suck, you know?
I booked myself on Oral Roberts University once,
just to see if I could play it, and it was fine.
It was different. It's a challenge.
You know, comics are lazy. It's like water.
It follows the path of least resistance.
You go to where, uh, go to where you suck.
-Don't go to where you kill. -Mm.
Go to the places you do terrible at,
and then try to win those people.
-What about Redd Foxx? -Oh, Redd Foxx is great.
Nobody funnier than Redd Foxx.
Did you have a relationship with Foxx?
Uh, no, just to say hello.
I was with him one time in Vegas. (chuckles)
The IRS would follow Redd around.
They'd go, "Ladies and gentlemen Redd Foxx." And they'd run up
onstage, they'd take the ring and they'd take a picture of it,
give him a receipt. "How much cash you got?"
-'Cause he never paid taxes, so they would follow him around. -So that-that stuff was true?
Yeah, they would take his car. (chuckles)
He would have to take a cab home.
Oh, it was, it was... it was hilarious.
It was just, like, funny. "I'm not paying the tax--"
He would... (muttering) And he'd do a lot of...
But, yeah, he was very funny.
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Is there a punctuation to all of it?
Is there an end day for you, for stand-up?
You mean, when I have my stroke? Is that what you mean?
-Heart attack? -No, not a stroke. Is there a day
when you're like, "I'm done, I don't want to do it anymore"?
No, no, I don't think I'd ever not want to do it.
I mean, that's what, that's what keeps you alive.
And that's the fun part for me.
I mean, yeah. I mean, no. No.
I think I'm the only one. I'm really the only one.
Are you looking at an-an end date?
-I'm-I'm... -I assume it's-- this is it.
-Every-every... every comic -Oh.
that I've, that I've asked,
every actor or entertainer that I've asked,
everybody's like, "No, I just want to go. I want to do it."
And I don't know why I'm the only one.
It seems like I'm the only one thinking about a moment
where it's like, "Okay, I'm-I'm done."
-And now I'm just going to... -And why, do you think?
So you won't be funny after that point, is that right?
No, it's not about not being funny.
It's just an-an end date. Like, I-I'm-I'm, I don't know.
-I'm still calculating. -Remember-remember when you were 15
and somebody 60 died and you went, "Well, that seems okay.
-I mean... (scoffs) 60, that's long enough." -Yeah.
And then you get to be 59 and a half, "Hey, hey, hey, hey!
Hey, hey, wait a minute, I-I was only kidding," you know.
I-I just think,
I-I bust my ass, as you have, as well.
-That's a busted ass...? -I'm-I'm... I'm busting my ass.
-Okay. -This is-- if I show-- this is a busted ass.
-Uh-huh. -So at-at some point,
at some point, I just...
I know I'm going to want to sit down.
At some point, I know I'm gonna want to not have
to do as much to bust my ass.
It doesn't mean, like, not have fun, not have a good time.
- Yeah, yeah. -It just means, like, at some point, I know...
And when do you think that is?
Uh, I don't know. I feel like you're gonna get mad at me.
-Huh? -After-after hearing your reaction.
No, no. No, wh-when do you think it is? How old are you now?
-Right now, I'm 41, yeah. -41, okay.
So, so, what-what's the number?
-I think, like, 50. -50?
-I think. -Really, like, 50?
I-I think. I'm telling you, I think. Who knows? I may...
I-I, I was interviewing Sean Connery when I was 50, so...
-Wow! -That was a great guest.
-Sean Connery? -Oh, I love Sean Connery.
Sean Connery was great because he--
-People don't really-- you know, he was a tough guy. -Mm-hmm.
He was a longshoreman.
And he-he would get in fights like that.
You know, he was Mr. Universe, third runner-up, 1953.
-I didn't know that. -Yeah, he was a tough guy.
And whenever he'd come to "The Tonight Show," "Jay, Jay,
what's the latest filthy joke, Jay? What's the new joke?"
And I would tell him a joke, and he would laugh
like a pirate. He'd go... (laughing loudly)
"Jay, that's a good one, Jay!"
And everybody would hear.
And he was the only guest that would take a shower
at "The Tonight Show." "Jay, I want to take a shower."
And he'd take his shirt off. He'd be all masculine, you know?
And we'd give him a towel, and you could hear him
in the shower... (vocalizing) He would, like, sing, and...
Uh, he-he killed me. And he's the only guy
I ever saw actually slap his knee.
-Actually go... (laughing) -As he, as he-as he laughed. As he laughed.
Yeah, yeah, as he laughed. Yeah, hilarious.
-That's a big deal. -Hilarious.
Uh, is there any guests--
'Cause you can't say... I know you can't
-throw them under the bus... -What?
What the-the--
No, I don't want to put you on that seat.
-I'm not gonna put you-- I was gonna say... -What, what, what?
I was gonna say "the worst guest."
I don't want to put you on that. I was like, yeah.
I know you know the worst guest.
Well, no, you know, the worst guest
is usually somebody that doesn't want to be there,
their publicist made them do the show.
Yeah, so I don't really blame--
I know why they came.
That was always bad, but, no,
I don't really focus on-on that.
And-and did you cut those short? Did you just, like...
Well, you-you plow through it, you know?
Okay. I will, I will ask you...
-What's that? -What's what?
Well, I was gonna tell you my favorite one, one time.
-Okay. -Uh, uh, Tracy, who works for you.
-Okay. -One day, one day, you know,
we're trying to book Ka--
uh, Kathie Gifford on the show, Kathie Lee Gifford.
-KEVIN: Mm-hmm. -And she was mad at me, 'cause I was doing--
Remember, her husband, Frank, was having an affair?
-Remember that whole...? -Yes, yes.
And I did this joke, made her particularly mad.
I said, uh, "Uh-oh, Kathie Lee Gifford just found out
there's no such thing as 'Tuesday Night Football.'"
You know? So, okay, so that joke got picked up everywhere.
And she's furious, right? So I-I'm thinking
she's mad at me. So let's-- I said, "Tracy,
call Kathie Lee Gifford." She goes, "I just called today.
She won't speak to you." I go, "What are you talking about?"
She said, "No, she won't do the show."
So I go out, and I say to one of the interns,
"Get me Kathie Lee's phone number, would you, please?"
I go-- So, I dial it. "Kathie Lee?" "Yes?"
"Jay Leno." "Jay! How wonderful to hear from you."
"Listen, we'd like to have you on Thursday after 'ER.'
It's a big night for us, Ka--"
"Jay, I would love to be on."
"Okay, great."
So I'm thinking, well, Tracy doesn't know what she's doing.
Let me go in and tell all these people, "I'll book the show."
You know? So, I go, "Tracy, uh,
I just booked Kathie Lee Gifford, so we're all set."
She goes, "Jay, I just spoke to Kathie Lee again.
She said she's not doing it." "Well, I just spoke to her."
"You didn't speak to Kathie Lee."
So, I say to the intern, "Whose number did you give me?"
"Cathy Lee Crosby." "Cathy Lee Crosby?!"
I just booked Cathy Lee Crosby Thursday night on 'ER'?!"
I said, "'That's Incredible' hasn't been on
for, like, 20 years!"
How old is Cathy Lee Crosby?
Now I have to call Cathy Lee Crosby back,
and, "Listen, uh, Cathy Lee, there's a m-mistake."
And, oh, it was, like, the most humiliating, yeah.
Have you ever--? Did you ever, uh--?
-Have you ever got enemies, based off of... -Have I ever got enemies?
Yeah, like, how many, how many enemies
have you gotten that you were like, "Oh, this is ridiculous.
"Like, there's-there's no reason that we should be enemies
or that there should be a level of anger"?
Well, Arsenio and I were always friends.
Then, we got the show, that whole thing started,
"I'm gonna kick Jay Leno's ass," you know?
-Remember that whole thing was going on... -I thought it was a joke.
-But I found out it was real. -Well, no...
So-so, anyway, so Arsenio's show premieres,
and I'm watching it, you know?
-And he had Brooke Shields, the first night. -Mm-hmm.
And he said something like, uh,
"This show is gonna be about the funk.
You're not gonna see Barry Manilow's ass on this show."
Something like that, you know? And the audience went...
So I'm, uh, I'm watching all the shows every night
to make sure I don't do the same jokes.
So about two months in, I see Arsenio's show,
"And, uh, tomorrow night"-- or next week, rather--
"Barry Manilow will be on the show."
And I go, "Oh!" So, next day, I dial in, like,
"Hi, it's Jay Leno to speak to, uh, Arsenio."
"He doesn't want to speak to you." "Just put him on."
"No, he won't speak to you." And I hear him say,
"Who's that, who's that?" "It's Leno."
"I'm not speaking to that asshole," blah-blah, blah-blah.
I said, "Put him on the phone." He goes, "What do you want?!
What do you want, man?" I went, "Ooh!
Next week, Barry Manilow."
Well, he broke out laughing, I broke out laughing.
I mean, it was really funny. It was really funny.
And 'cause I said, "You need everybody.
You can't not get everybody."
-Have every-- No, you... -You need everybody.
You're doing too many episodes. You have to have everybody.
You need everybody. I just remember, that was my favorite.
And then Arsenio and I were fine after that.
But it did-- Like, but there was
the-the "beef" was just for nothing?
Well, no, I guess it is. I mean, you know what it is?
-If people around you start the beef and keep the things going. -Mm-hmm.
He and I were always friends. I mean,
I knew his mom in the old-- I mean, yeah, and he's great.
-And he's great in the new movie. -Yes. Uh...
And he looks exactly the same.
I look like his father, but he looks exactly the same.
Jay, what are you talking about? You haven't--
You've looked the same for 20 years.
No, that's your eyes are going bad.
No, you've looked the same for 20 years.
Well, thank you. That's-that's very kind.
You look great. Your energy is always great.
And I love that you're living life at a high level, man.
And for you, like you-you... you walk your own beat.
You're-you're on your own path. You always have been.
And I think it's, honestly, I'm envious of your love
for the craft of comedy.
-I can't get over that. -Oh, yeah, I love it.
-It's great. -Hearing you talk about it,
it's like, damn, you know,
why am I, why am I always thinking about the end?
Why am I always thinking about
how am I going to exit, what's my out?
Well, you know, the-the thing about being a comic is,
you're a comic 'cause you don't fit in anywhere.
-Mm-hmm. -When I used to live in New England,
I was the laziest person anybody knew.
I come here, suddenly, I'm the hardest-working.
Well, how does that-- I didn't do anything different.
And then I realized that's what I loved
about hosting "The Tonight Show," in the fact that...
I could be in show business and around show business
without being absorbed by it, you know?
Like, I love Charlie Sheen.
-He's a friend of mine, but I don't want to be Charlie Sheen. -Mm-hmm.
So whenever he would have his antics and be in the paper,
and I'd have him on the show, I enjoy observing him
-without being in it. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
You know, I wasn't a guy going to the coke party
or any of that kind of stuff.
I had no interest in it, but I-I like being around it.
I love the energy of it, and that's what was the most fun
-about it, and that's what I like about doing comedy. -Mm-hmm.
There's always energy in it, you know?
Was there ever a moment where you almost stepped
in that space, where you almost went into the...
the-the... the fast lane of Hollywood?
-No. -No, never?
No, no, I, no, I always-- You know something?
I got the same friends I had in high school,
been married to the same woman for 41 years.
-Wow. -It's just easier, it's just easier.
-You come home, "Okay, thank you." -Good for you, man.
I don't get a dessert fork in the back of the neck, you know?
H-How many guys I know,
you know, they're sleeping and the wife's,
"I'm gonna kill you." "What was that?" You know?
Yeah, I mean, how many guys go through that?
Yeah. Yeah!
Right? How many idiots out there?
Well, no, but I mean, i-it's about, you know,
h-here's the trick.
You-you make show-business money
-and you lead a normal life. -Mm-hmm.
And that works pretty good for me.
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I can say, if I had the...
if I had the information
that you're giving now at the earlier points of my life
and career, of course, a lot of, uh, mistakes and missteps,
uh, probably wouldn't have been made.
But just like you, the level of understanding
and now knowledge that I have because of them
-is so much better. -Yeah, but you learn from all of them.
-Absolutely. -So that, so-- and it makes you who you are.
-Absolutely. -So none of this would've happened
without those mistakes, probably.
But you seem to just be--
Your-your... your mental strength
and, you know, commitment
to just doing what's right for you.
-I don't want to say right overall. -I am a huge believer
-in low self-esteem. -What?
Okay, what does that...?
-What that means is, when you have low self-esteem, -What does that mean?
-you don't think you're the smartest person in the room. -Ah!
When I was on "The Tonight Show," I hired the best
director, I hired the best talent, uh, coordinators,
the best producers, the lighting guy.
I let them do their job. I never said,
"Well, I know a little bit more about lighting..."
-Mm-hmm. -I, uh, you know, I just let people do their job.
-Mm-hmm. -And anybody on "The Tonight Show,"
when I was there, could pull the cord and stop the train.
You know, people go, "Jay, this bit sucks."
"It does?" Nobody was afraid to say that.
And that's what saved us. I mean, it was a team effort,
and everybody worked hard.
And I-I took the crappiest office in the middle.
And Debbie was the producer 'cause she does all the work,
so she should have the big office.
And I was there before everybody came in the morning,
-and I was there after they left. -Wow.
And so people-- There wasn't a lot of resentment.
You know, there wasn't a lot of that stuff where people
don't care if the show goes down, as long as you lose it.
They don't care about losing their job as long
-as you get screwed. I mean, -Mm-hmm.
I see so many, people are so angry and mad, you know?
And the idea of you just let people do their job,
-don't admonish people in public. -Mm-hmm.
You pull them aside and go, "Hey, you know, this is,
uh, what's this about?" But low self-esteem is good,
'cause you don't speak-- If you don't--
If you're not sure about the answer,
-you're not gonna say something stupid. -Mm.
You know, so you just let people do it, you know?
I mean, a classic example is like the Cathy Lee Crosby story.
"I'll-I'll call. I'll get Kathie Lee's number."
-You wanted to do it? -Yeah, that's what I mean.
-"I'll get it done." -I mean, that could have,
that could have been something. It turned into a funny story,
but it could have been, "Oh, I was pissed
I called the wrong person." But, you know,
you see the humor in it, and you have fun with it, you know?
-Are you still doing the car show? -Oh, yeah, yeah.
-"Jay Leno's Garage," yeah. -And "Jay Leno's Garage"
right now, I mean, what season are you in?
It's the number-one show on CNBC.
Uh, we're in season seven of that.
Season seven. I had a ball doing it. I...
Yeah, we loved having you on. You were great. You were funny.
Well, dude, I mean, I-I love your--
I just love your knowledge behind cars, you know?
-I'm-I'm now getting into the world of cars. -Right.
I'm jumping in, uh, as a car enthusiast,
but more importantly, this car culture, as a guy
who's ignorant to a lot of stuff, but willing to learn.
-Right, right. -And, uh, me, my friends, The Plastic Cup Boyz,
you know, we're-we're doing a show on MotorTrend now.
But, you know, you act as a big inspiration
from the entertainer tapping into that space
and showing that there's a world where you can bring
your following into this space
and have your following appreciate
-what you love, as well. -Yeah.
So thank you for that, because I wouldn't have,
-I wouldn't have known that that door existed -Well, thanks. Sure. Sure.
if it wasn't for you and your car show, that's been,
-I mean, successful. -Well, we enjoyed having you.
Anytime you want to be on again, you let us know.
Well, don't ask, don't threaten me with a good time,
but except it's gonna be me and all my guys.
-So I'm just gonna ask you for, uh, -Yeah.
a little more camera time because I got five guys
-that's gonna be there with me. -Yeah, sure, sure.
And, uh, you know, I'm not gonna say it's gonna be
the easiest show for you, 'cause, uh, they don't listen.
-And, you know, it's-it's tough, but it'll be well. -Yeah.
We'll have a good time. I promise you that.
But they make the best burgers and fries.
-(stammers) Well, yeah. -Five Guys.
-Five Guys? Five... (laughs) -Yeah, yeah. Is that--?
Is that--? I'm sorry. What were you talking about?
(laughter)
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were gonna get a bite to eat now.
-Goddamn Jay Leno. -Um, um, I'm-I'm sorry.
-Jay, uh, in conclusion... -Ketchup only? Yeah.
-Before we wrap up. -No-no cheese. No cheese.
The king of zingers. The king of punch lines.
-"Zing-gers"? -Zingers.
"Zing-ger"? I'm Jewish now?
-No. Zingers! -"The king of zing-gers."
-The king of zingers. -Yeah.
The punch-line king himself, man, Jay Leno.
Jay, I mean what I'm about to say, man.
You are a-a dope guy.
Like, you've always welcomed me with open arms.
Well, I'm very proud of you.
You-you were a guy that literally came out of nowhere
and appeared one day and just grew faster and faster
and faster, and it's-it's been fun to watch.
I enjoy watching people like yourself.
I like people that started after I kind of made it,
and then came along and passed me
and went on to do other great things.
And i-it's great. I really enjoy it. I mean,
I-I take great pleasure in that. It's fun.
-You know, I like to think, "Oh, you know, I knew him when." -I...
And it, and it, and it, and it's true.
-Well, you're... -I enjoy your success as much as you do.
Your-your welcoming in open arms,
it-it meant a lot. When you, when you...
Yeah, well, again, with the touching thing, that was,
-that was... It's one incident. -Well, it's-it's not touching, Jay.
Okay, guys, I'm talking about coming on the show.
You didn't have to let me come on the show, but when you did,
uh, it meant a lot, and then you continued
-to let me come on and then through the years, -Right.
-and over the times-- -But if I didn't put you on the show,
you were gonna go to the police, and of course,
that would have been another whole problem.
(laughing)
Ladies and gentlemen, Jay Leno. It doesn't get goddamn better.
It definitely doesn't get bigger.
-Dude, I love you. -Thank you.
-I appreciate you, man. -Now where's Robert Wagner and Stefanie Hart?
No, you're not getting-- There is no Robert Wagner.
Okay. Thank you, man. Give me a hug.
Come here, man. My guy, dude. Did you finish the water?
I'm proud, I'm proud of all your success, man.
-Thank you. -It's really great to watch you
-just rise to the top. -Thank you, man.
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