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Welcome to an all new episode of "Hart to Heart."

I, of course, am your host, Kevin Hart.

And it's never about me. Always about our guests.

And today's guest is an amazing one.

My guy Bryan Cranston is on the show.

Actor, director, producer, screenwriter, author,

"New York Times" bestseller--

autobiography called "A Life in Parts."

Man's got 15 Emmy nominations,

six Emmys, uh, for "Breaking Bad."

I mean, look, I can go on and on.

Why should I?

Because, guys, we get to talk, and we get to have a good time.

-Please welcome Bryan Cranston, ladies and gentlemen. -Wow.

Bryan Cranston. Come on, Bryan.

-This is amazing. -Huh? Do you like this?

-This is amazing. -Do you like this right here?

How are you, brother? It's so good to see you.

-How are you, man? You look great. -Thank you.

-You look really good, man. I like the suit. -Oh, thank you.

-Yeah. No, I'm serious. You look good. -Thank you.

-Thank you. -I'm surprised.

Wh-Why are you surprised?

'Cause normally you don't.

Oh, remember the thing?

-The-the... The thing with the... -The thing. The thing.

I'm joking, man. There is no thing.

All right, so, Bryan, here's the thing. This is my-my talk show.

-Nice. -Some of the best conversations

happen over a glass of wine, which is why

we are here in, like, my wine cellar.

-In your wine cellar? -Yeah.

And I got a sommelier, and he's here.

-This is my guy. Right? Right? -Wha...?

-Gentlemen. -How are you, man?

Very good. How about you, Kevin?

I'm good. I'm good. Uh, this is DLynn.

-Hi, DLynn. How are you? -DLynn. Pleasure.

He's my sommelier.

-Your own sommelier? -Yeah, he's my somm...

-Wow. -My sommelier.

-Did you just learn that word? -Yup.

I just learned it right before...

right before we started.

Uh, yes, man.

Uh, Bryan, is this okay with you? It's a red.

Uh... 2019.

-I... -Yeah. Come on, Bryan.

-Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes. -Yes, please.

-Please. Thank you, man. -Yeah. Beautiful.

I'm serious what I said, though, about some

of the best conversations happening over a glass of wine.

If you notice, or if you haven't noticed,

when you drink wine, you get very talkative, right?

Stuff just starts to flow.

Before you know it, you look at the time,

you're like, "Oh, my God. I can't believe

I was talking for three hours straight."

-Yeah. -And it wasn't just you.

It was the wine. The wine activated it.

-Beautiful. -That's perfect. Thank you. I'll take

-a little more. Just a little more. -Absolutely.

-BRYAN: Wow. -Not that I have a problem.

-I just want a little m... That's perfect for me. -BRYAN: Mm.

-Thank you, man. Appreciate you. -Very welcome.

-Cheers. Cheers, man. -Smells good. Cheers.

-Cheers to you. Good to see you. -Thank you so much. I-I...

I genuinely appreciate you doing this.

-I'm honored. -Here's what I want to say to you.

I had the pleasure of working with you, right?

We did our movie together,

and, dude, I was so blown away

by the level of professional

that you were, right?

Like, a great actor--

I knew that. I knew that going in.

But you don't know... you don't know where

a person's professionalism is gonna be.

You don't know, you know, if they're personable on set.

Do you like to be alone? Are you, uh,

a person that's, like, approachable? Not approachable?

There's so many things when you're dealing

-with actors or actresses in this business. -Right.

For you, man, it was everything

that I just didn't expect.

I was so blown away

by your ability to be so warm and welcoming,

not just to the cast, but to the crew.

And it was such a comfortable environment

for me doing this movie, 'cause this was my first, like...

this was, like, my first kind of serious role.

-Yeah. Yeah. -Right?

Uh, it's the first one. So, low-key, I was nervous.

-You were really? -I didn't say nothing.

Not just nervous about lining up next to

the level of actors and actresses

that I had to in that film, and that was

you and Nicole Kidman. It was like,

well, I don't want to be the guy that looks like I don't belong.

Right? So I know I got to come in, I got to do my job,

I got to be prepared. But dude, you made me better.

Well, I-I'm... Thank you for that.

-I mean it. -That's very kind of you.

Usually, I have it in my contract that nobody's allowed

to look me in the eye when I step on the set.

-Really? Yeah. -Yeah.

Because I... you know, I kind of want

to create an intimidation factor and have everybody fear me.

-Well, that's not... I don't think that's... -And that's why

-I think, uh, it worked with us. -Well,

-I don't think that they were... -I think you were afraid.

I wasn't afraid. I wasn't... I wasn't afraid.

A little bit?

-No, Bryan. I wasn't afraid at all. -Okay.

I'm telling you that... I admitted what I was

-nervous about, right? I-I... -Yeah.

I already admitted that, so it's not about fear.

It was more about being nervous about just being next to you...

-Oh. -...while-while acting. That's all.

That's... You... That's a... Really?

That's a lovely thing to say. Thank you.

When-when did it click for you

that you were... that you were this, like, thespian?

Like, when did it mentally click

that you had what it took

to not just act, but truly become these characters?

-Well, my father was an actor. -Really?

Yeah. My-my mother and father were both actors.

Well, so you come from the business, then.

I come from the business. They had a...

They had a very tumultuous relationship.

They needed to become stars, and neither of them became stars.

-Wow. Okay. -And it exploded

the-the family structure,

and it was bad there for a while.

"Bad there" meaning bad in the house with Mom and Dad?

-Yeah. Yeah. It was... -How? What was bad?

What was bad was that my mother started drinking.

-Mm-hmm. -And my father left.

-Okay. -So from the age of 11 on,

I didn't see my father until I was about 22.

-Get out of here. -Yeah.

-My dad wasn't around, either. -Yeah?

My dad was vacant, um... I would say,

damn, it may be around the same, the same age.

-When you were about 11? -About 11. Ten-ten, 11.

-My dad's bout was with drugs, though. -Yeah.

You know, my dad, uh, he got tied up,

and just kind of went down a road where he never came back.

-Yeah. -And the difference is, we didn't know where he was.

So, then later, we found out what was going on with my dad,

and it was more of a discovery.

And were you actively looking for him?

Uh... n... We weren't really allowed to.

-What do you mean? -Does that make sense?

So, my mom... my mom and my dad weren't close.

-Okay. -So because they weren't close,

you know, my mom kind of shut...

She shut the doors

to what could be the relationship with your dad,

when she knew my dad was spiraling out of control.

-Yeah. -So because she had the knowledge,

"Oh, he's out there, he's on drugs,

he's doing everything he's not supposed to be doing..."

I don't want my kids to be... Yeah.

-"...my kids aren't gonna be around that." -Got it.

So, it was kind of a shield, and then as my dad got better,

or started to get better, um, I-I think...

My mom found religion around the same time, so she started to,

like, play hopscotch with the...

"I'm in... I'm in... I'm in and I'm out.

"I'm okay with your dad coming to get you,

"but then I got... I had a bad day.

-No, not today." -Mm-hmm.

Which kind of, you know, it-it...

it definitely messed with the relationship

between my dad and my brother at one point, but not me so much.

-I was... I was too young, so my dad is just my dad. -Yeah.

I-I... It didn't matter. I-I loved my dad.

Did your dad leaving affect your feelings

-towards him at a young age? -Yeah.

There were... there were lingering feelings of-of,

uh, abandonment and resentment and anger.

And I think, you know, ironically,

I just channeled all that stuff into my work.

So, I-I look for characters,

um, I-I'm attracted to characters that are damaged.

-Damn. -And-and that I... that

at least they have a sense of purpose and-and a desire

to be better, to find a better path for themselves.

Is that why it's so-- I don't even like using the word "easy"

because it's not easy-- but you make it look so damn easy.

Your ability to...

to go in and out of emotion so fast.

We were on the set of, uh, of our movie,

um, "Untouchable," right?

-Uh, oh-oh... -No. It's called "The Upside."

-But it's the remake of... -Of "Untouchables." Yeah.

-"Untouchables." -Yeah.

So the original was that, ours is called "The Upside."

But there was a scene where you and I were...

I'm pushing you at nighttime. We went to get the weed.

-Yeah. -Went to go smoke the weed, and

in this scene is when you talk about the accident.

You talk about how you got hurt,

and then you started to talk about your wife.

And you cry in the scene.

I remember them saying "cut." I remember them saying, "cut."

And then after we cut, you would stop,

and then me and you would finish talking and joking.

And then we would...

"Okay, guys, we're gonna do another one." And, "Okay, okay."

And you welled right back up.

And I was like, "He don't need a second?"

Like, you didn't need a... You don't need to go in a corner?

Or-or walk away? Like, you just...

Right there. We were just talking.

You stopped, and then you started again.

And I... Instantly, instantly I was like,

"That's... That's the... that's the other level of acting.

"That's the other level, Kevin, that you haven't...

that you haven't touched and haven't been around."

Well, don't... No, don't sell yourself short,

because you have all the tools, and you brought it all.

I said, when we first started "The Upside," I said,

"This is going to live or die on Kevin Hart's shoulders."

-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -And it thrived because of you.

-You had to drive every single scene... -Mm-hmm.

...and-and manipulate the scenes.

I was a character who was reacting

to this crazy person in my house, and, "What am I doing?

"I mean, I hired this guy, and he doesn't seem appropriate

to... I'm not used to this, and..." And reactive.

But you had to drive all the scenes, and it was...

I-I will say you definitely just... You just helped with...

You helped me with a strong sense of comfort

when it was time to tap

into the emotional sides of that character.

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So how did you get to drama?

I mean, you started in comedy, right?

Like, I mean, when-when I think about Bryan Cranston,

I automatically go to "Malcolm in the Middle"

-in-in the beginning days, right? -Yeah.

In "Malcolm in the Middle,"

I mean, you weren't just the dad.

You were the funny dad.

You-you hit punchlines.

You hit, you know... Like, you were comedy.

So, with the success of that show,

how do you then make the switch the way you did?

-Was it... was it intentional? -Yeah.

-It was intentional? -Very much so.

-Wow. -Uh,

there's a tendency in our business to say,

-Mm-hmm. -"Oh, Kevin Hart does this.

-Oh, let's give him that." -Mm-hmm.

-"Let's give him another one of those." -Mm-hmm.

"And another one, and another and another."

And it's up to you, then-- as you have--

-to say, "No." -Yeah.

"I'm not doing that anymore, I'm going over here."

-Mm-hmm. -And they're saying,

"But Kevin, you do this so great."

And you go, "I know, thank you. I did that.

I have to go over here." And if you continue

just to do what you always do,

-you'll never do what you don't do. -Mm.

What is the downfall to most actors or actresses?

It's a bad project, or a couple of bad projects, right?

And then, all of a sudden, you're deemed as, "Oh, no.

"Flop. Not... No, no, we're not taking a gamble,

or we're not this..." So there's a level of...

There's a level of fear in doing what you want to do.

Because if that thing that you want to do doesn't work,

"Oh, my God. Will I have the opportunity to do it again?"

-Yeah. -And it's much more of a fear

for, you know, Black actors and actresses

because, oh, my God, how many shots do we get?

-Yeah. That's right. -Right? Like I don't...

I'm not gonna get many shots.

So as I've been navigating,

you know, this-this... this walk...

-Yeah. -So I got to make sure that I move correctly.

"Pull the financing out of his next movie!"

Yeah, I got to... I got to make sure that I'm...

that I'm-I'm really taking calculated steps

because of that. You know what I mean?

It is, but it's tricky because you don't want

to be so calculating that you take the risk factor out of it.

-Mm. Mm-hmm. -You have to say,

"There is a certain amount of risk

to doing this role or that role."

When you did "The Upside," I think we had a conversation,

and I... It was, like, um,

"This is... this is really a love story about...

-with two straight men." -Mm-hmm.

And how they each can inform the other person...

-I remember this. Mm-hmm. -...about a future.

-That's when we met. -Yeah.

-Before-before the film we met. Yes. -Yeah.

And-and my... I went home after our lunch,

and my wife said, "What do you think?" And I said,

"He's got it. I think he can do this."

Because it was going to take your acting self

to really drop in.

It wasn't Kevin Hart as we love to see him and...

(yelling) You know?

-You know, it wasn't... -(both laugh)

-It's not that. -Ah.

Because-because if-if that guy... if that guy shows up,

then you're-you're jumping out of... out of your character...

-Mm-hmm. -...and into something that's really comfortable.

Who's your most challenging role to date?

I think... uh... I think when I-I...

When, uh, when "Breaking Bad" finished,

I gave myself a moratorium to not go on television

-for three years. -Hmm.

I had to move away from that medium and into other mediums.

And the place for me was to go on stage.

And so I played, uh, President Lyndon Johnson

-in a play called "All the Way" on Broadway. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

And then we did a movie version of it.

And that was probably the most challenging

because of the depth of that character.

He had the highest heights of ambition and aggression

and assertiveness and the lowest of lows

with self-doubt, and insecurities,

and crushing depression and everything in between.

The other part of that is that it was a real man.

And when you are playing a non-fictional character,

there's a responsibility that comes with it.

-Mm-hmm. -I hope you get the chance.

I hope you look for something

where you can play a-a real person.

There's not many people my size. I've been looking.

-I've been searching... -Have you? Have you been looking?

I've been looking for a lot of people.

There's not many my size.

But you know, with the magic of special effects

and visual effects, they could make you look huge.

-The talent. -Yeah, but, though,

you don't think that you can do that?

No, I-I know that I can. I'm saying,

I don't know the person that-that it could be.

I think if... There's nothing that I can't put my mind to

and execute on.

I-I am a firm believer

that if I say I'm gonna do something,

I'm gonna figure out how to do it.

I'm gonna give it 110%.

Exotic male dancing.

If I chose to do it,

I'll be one of the fucking best on the planet.

-(laughing) -If I chose to do it...

I'm telling you right now.

Here, come... here come Little Bits. Here he comes.

-(both laugh) -Here comes...

-Let him go. Let him loose. -Here come Little Bits.

Just let him... let him do what he do.

Just let... You know,

I was actually going to be an exotic dancer.

-Get out of here. -I swear to God, early on in my life.

-Really? -Early on in my life, I was gonna strip.

I had no money. Community college, right?

Community College of Philadelphia, broke as hell.

And I was like, "Dude, rent is due."

You know, at this point, I didn't want to go to Mom.

-I was trying to survive on my own. -Now did you...?

Did you have the body then that you do now?

No. No, no, no, it was a...

-It was a shit show. It was a shit show. -So that was like...

It was like, "This guy's skinny ass. Look."

Yeah, it was gonna be... it was gonna be a mess.

It was gonna be a mess.

Uh, but I was really gonna do it.

I was like, "I got nothing else. What am I gonna do?"

-Ooh. -And I remember I was in the living room...

Uh, I was in the living room, and I was, like, rehearsing.

I had this girl, and she was like,

"All you got to do is get a routine."

And I was listening to Ginuwine.

-Yeah? -Ginuwine, uh "Pony."

That was my song, and I'm like,

I'm-a have a nice little routine.

I was putting together a routine.

-And my brother walked in while I was doing it. -Yeah.

And my brother... I've never seen somebody so mad.

"What are you doing?!" "Dude, mind your business."

"What are you doing, man?!" "I'm practicing."

-He didn't laugh? -No. No, he didn't laugh.

He was mad because he actually thought you were gonna do this.

He was like, "What are you doing? Like, if it's that bad,

"ask me, or-or we'll figure it out.

You don't... You ain't stripping."

And-and then, the-the idea of it was gone.

If he didn't walk in that room,

that Thursday was amateur night, and I was going to be there.

-All right, just as a thing. -Okay.

-(beatboxing) -No. No, Bryan. I'm not gonna...

-No. No, that's not... -Come on!

No, no, that... Bryan, it's not... No.

I'm not... and that wouldn't have been my song.

-All right. -I just told you.

-It's my song. -It's Ginuwine's "Pony".

It's what I used to strip to, but if it's not for you,

we can find another song.

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-Here's a good question for you. -Okay.

We've talked about the acting.

I understand how you approach it.

I understand where the emotion, the pain, the happy comes from,

where you're able to pull.

I understand the childhood now,

and what was tough based off of what you said, right?

What are your extracurricular activities

outside... outside of the business?

What does Bryan Cranston do?

-I... uh... -That was a deep breath.

-That's a very... -Well, you know, I...

-That's a very deep breath. -I'm now 65 years old.

-I don't play golf. -Mm-hmm.

I work out, um, I spend time with my family.

-Mm-hmm. -And I work.

Okay.

I don't collect anything.

-Wow. -I don't. I...

Not watches, not cars, not... I don't...

I-I have... I can do all that, but I'm...

-It's just not interesting. -Where's the money go?

In the bank.

And then what?

You know, and hookers and blow, but...

All right, there you go. (chuckles) I mean, it's just...

-And some are women, but, uh... -Some are. Some are.

Okay. As long as you're having a good time.

-Yeah. -So there's nothing

that acts as a... as a hobby?

And if there isn't, is that a problem?

Well, you know, I feel like I'm in a therapy session right now.

I mean, this isn't therapy. It's just conversation and dialogue,

-'cause I'm curious about this, now. -Thank you. Yeah.

But it could be, Doctor. Uh...

-(laughs) -I, uh...

I... I don't.

-I love to work. It's my mistress. -Mm-hmm.

I love to work, as well, and I can say the same exact thing.

I am... I am... I-I'm...

It's the same thing.

Okay, so my wife said to me the other day...

Not the other day. A year or two ago.

We were talking about it,

and I-I've been acting for over 40 years.

-Mm-hmm. -And I love it. I do.

It's-it's such a passion of mine.

But I also love my wife

I've been married to for over 32 years.

And, uh, I said, you know...

-We're talking about time and how we deal with time. -Mm-hmm.

And you're married, and it's like, you-you have kids,

and it's like, "Okay, well, how much time for this?

How much time for this?"

You have to be very careful with how you do things.

And I said that. I said, "Acting has been my mistress, you know?"

And my wife said, "No.

"Acting-- you're married to acting.

I'm your mistress."

-Yeah. -And I went, "No."

And she goes, "No, it's okay.

As long as I'm the only mistress you have, I'm okay with it."

-You know what's crazy? -What?

I had a different example that was given to me

that set a light bulb off.

And it was that I'm married to my job,

and then I was dating my family.

-And that was a... -That hurts.

-That hurt. -Yeah, it does.

Right? And it wasn't as if I did one thing,

and then there's a break. You do another right after.

"Oh, my God, this was big.

-This one's gonna be bigger!" -Mm-hmm.

-You keep feeding this thing... -Yeah.

...that you have, and you're embedding it

in the will and want for more in your job.

And then you come home, and you're with your family,

and it's "Hey, guys, come on, let's eat dinner real quick.

Hey, we're gonna... What we gonna do-- go to the movies?"

You're cramming life

-in the three days that you have. -Mm-hmm.

You and I have been very, very fortunate in our careers.

We've had opportunity present itself.

And because neither of us came from any kind of wealth,

any kind of, uh,

-fortunate environment... -Mm-hmm.

My... I was kicked out of our house.

They put an eviction notice on the front door. Out.

We were split up. The family split up, and every...

It was bad.

So when opportunity presented itself to me,

I-I had to grab it. You have to

turn it over and say, "What's-what's best?"

-What's best for you? -Mm.

What's best here? Because if the family went away,

-what is it worth? -Mm-hmm.

The one thing that you just said is,

within, you know, that-that...

that-that attitude, right,

of another and another and another, the biggest thing...

Because we come from nothing,

there's always been a fear for me, Bryan.

-To go back? That it's gonna go back. -To go back.

-That it's all gonna go away. -Yes.

Like, that's a... that's a real fear.

And-and there's a... there's a high volume of people

-that will never understand that fear. -Mm-hmm.

That will never truly identify with that fear

because they don't know that it's real.

They heard about it.

-You've heard about being poor. -Yeah.

You've heard about having nothing.

You've heard about people losing their homes.

But if you never really experienced it,

-well, it's just something that you heard. -Yeah.

So when you finally discover something,

and then you can discover something else, like,

-"Well, I don't... Wait a minute." -Yeah.

"I don't want to let this go."

But do you...? You-you... you can't...

At this stage, you can't possibly still feel

-that jeopardy that it's going to go away. -No.

At this... at this stage, at the age of 41--

-by the way, much younger than you. -(whistles)

-Yeah. -A lot younger, right?

Yeah. 41. That's good. No, you look good.

-When you said your age... -Mm.

...the first thing I thought... -Mm-hmm.

-"I'm a lot younger than Bryan." -A lot. A lot.

And by the way, the extra pounds that you put on?

I think you wear it well. I think you needed to.

I think it looks good. I really do.

-What? -Looks good. What were you saying?

-Well, I'm not trying to take... -What were you saying, though?

What you saying... You were saying something.

I'll get back to it. I'll-I'll get back to it.

-We'll talk about that in a second. -Mm.

Well, I'm gonna finish saying what I'm saying,

but then I want to talk about what you said in a second.

-Mm-hmm. -Um...

now I'm at a place where my life

and my life experiences have opened my eyes

to the real important things.

Uh, the things that should be priority.

The things that I should value, right?

And when I started to ask myself those questions,

I didn't like the answers that I was getting.

I think I'm a great dad.

I think that I'm a great husband.

Definitely stepped in some shit here and there.

-But I've grown. -Yeah.

-I learn. I get better. -When you fuck up, do you...?

Are you easy on yourself? Do you forgive yourself,

or do you beat yourself up?

Depends on the level, man. I've done it a lot.

I've done it a lot. Um, but I don't...

I don't wish that it didn't happen. Like, I've...

Every-every time I've touched a stove, and it's been hot,

I'm thankful for that burn.

I'm thankful for that burn.

And you don't touch it again.

I'm not touching that stove again, right?

But I... I don't like hearing about things.

Some things you just got to... you got to see for yourself.

You got to do and know for yourself.

And then, in this thing that we're in,

in this... in this world of fame and success,

you're not prepared for what comes with it.

And sometimes, you-you don't learn it well.

Absolutely not.

There's a lot of people who have not learned it well.

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Did the fame bite you at any point?

I was a working actor since 25,

and did a bunch of different shows and things.

But "Malcolm in the Middle" changed things for me,

and I was 40 years old.

And then I was 50 years old when "Breaking Bad" happened.

I was already...

I had a wife and a child and a small house,

and I was already secure

-in my foundation. -You're polished. Yeah.

What kind of father are you

because of your dad and your relationship with your dad?

Well, uh, it's funny.

I did that, um, genealogy show, um, "Who Do You Think You Are?"

-Mm-hmm. -And they traced...

They took DNA, and then they did research,

and they traced it back to Ireland.

My fourth... four-times grandfather,

right, and grandmother came from Ireland to...

first to Canada, and Canada to the... to the States.

And out of the five-- including my father, my grandfather,

my great grandfather,

great-great and great-great-great--

only one didn't desert his family.

So four out of five of my predecessors... (chuckles)

-Wow, okay. Okay. I got it. -...deserted their families.

I mean completely deserted them.

And it... it was funny, because it's so foreign to me.

It is... it is not anywhere in my consciousness

that I would leave my daughter.

Even if there was a divorce, an event,

the fact that you would stop your responsibility

-to your children is so foreign to me. -Mm-hmm.

The thought of letting my kids down,

the thought of saying something and not following through....

-Crushing. -It's...

Because I know what it feels like, right?

-Yeah. -And, to this day, I...

When I tell you, "I love my dad,"

I love my dad. Mistakes or not, that's my dad.

Always gonna be my dad.

I'm always going to look at it like that.

I don't have... I don't have the room for the negative energy

and to hold on to something just because.

I do know what it feels like, though, when it's,

"Hey, I'm coming to get you," and then you don't come.

I know what it feels like, as a child,

to sit with that and stick with that.

For my kids, I stand on the things that I say.

And the most important thing is our word.

I tell them that. The most important thing is our word.

Were you able to have that conversation with your dad?

That of, "What happened? Where were we? Who are you now?

-How did you...?" -We still... We still ain't really...

Me and my dad never really talked about it, but...

BRYAN: Yeah. It's kind of a generational thing.

KEVIN: Yeah, but we don't-- we don't have to.

Well, it's not like it's a weight off of my back,

like I've been waiting to hear it and now I can go on.

It-it would be more for my dad than for me.

I've already made the decision to still love.

Do you still have a relationship with your father?

No, he and I, uh-- we never... we never were able

to bridge the chasm that was created by his disappearance

and my confusion as a child, and...

-Was there ever an attempt? -Yeah.

-Yeah. -Yeah. It just didn't happen.

Um... We...

I was able to get my dad to go to therapy one time.

I got to give him credit because he actually said these words.

"I'm... I want to go with you,

"but I would rather stick needles in my eyes

than go to therapy."

(both laughing)

I would rather create

significant pain to myself

than to open up.

(both laugh)

-Man, but my dad was... -He had a...

I hate to laugh, but that is... that is...

that is very... that's strong.

-That's strong. -That's strong.

What else does Bryan want to do?

What else are you looking for out of the business?

What else are you looking for out of life?

Um... as you so kindly pointed out,

I'm-I'm slightly older than you.

-Old. Old. -Yeah.

As you get older, I find less interest in material things,

-and I want experiences. -Mm-hmm.

I just want experiences.

Look, let me put it in-in these terms.

Uh, I'm in the fourth quarter of my life.

-Is it the fourth or third? -Fourth.

-I thought the fourth is 75. -No.

-Dig this. Zero-20, first quarter. -Okay.

-Oh, man. All things going on, right? -Okay.

-20 to 40, second quarter. -Mm-hmm.

-Feeling good. Halftime, you're 40 years old. -Mm-hmm.

-Like you are now. It's like, "I'm ready to go." -Mm-hmm.

-Mm-hmm. -But let me tell you something. You've just now

entered the third quarter of your life.

-Okay. -40 to 60.

60 to 80 is the fourth quarter.

I'm in there. I just... I'm 65.

Holy shit. I'm in what quarter?!

You're in the third quarter.

Sorry. You better get moving.

-You're in the third quarter, my friend. Time... -That...

I thought I was in the second.

I thought it was zero to 25, 25 to 50.

At 50, over the hump,

now we're on the back half of the race.

-50 to 75... -Oh, boy.

And if you make it past 75...

You're in the... now the fourth quarter? 75 to 100?

-Yeah. 75... Well, I... -Nobody... N-Not many people...

Listen, if you can get to 100, you're in sudden-death overtime.

-And that mean... I mean, literally. -That's true.

-It's not a good game. It's not a good game. -Literally.

-It could happen like this. Yup. -It's not a good game.

Every day... every day could be the day.

-That's it. -"Oh, Pop-Pop woke up again."

-(both laughing) -Thought he was dead.

"Oh, God. He's up. Everybody, everybody!"

We can cancel that trip to the mortuary.

Cancel... Yeah, cancel...

"Don't call the funeral home. He woke up." Every day.

-Every day is... Every day. -(both laughing)

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Is there a shutdown date?

You said you love to work. Working is your mistress.

-Well... -Is there a shutdown date?

If I fall out of love with acting, then yeah.

And, look, my mom had Alzheimer's,

-so, genetically, it's in there. -Yeah.

If-If I get to the point where I can't memorize my lines,

if I can't do a play, if I can't memorize my-my lines, then...

I'm not going to be an actor on stage

-with the ear buds in there. -Mm-hmm.

"Tell him, 'You look very handsome today.'"

You look very handsome today.

So there's no... Now, here's the difference.

I have an end date.

I already have it in my head.

Can you share it?

No, I don't want to tell them about it.

Can you whisper it to me?

No, then that's telling somebody.

-Can I put it out on my social? -No.

What are you doing? I just told you.

-(laughing) -I just told you I don't...

I don't want to share it, but I'm telling you.

-Can I write it on a bathroom wall? -No!

What are you...? Are you listening to what

-I'm telling you? -Oh, God. I can't do anything!

-Listen to what I'm telling you. -Okay.

I'm thinking about the day

that I... that I shut it off.

But the part that I shut off is my personal investment.

-The machine should still... -Yeah.

...should still be able to run from everything

-that's been put into it... -Right.

...all the pieces to the puzzle.

That should go.

-But I do have a date and time. -Now, when you say

that date, shut-off date, are you...? And...

But your-your enterprise will continue to go on?

-Enterprise goes. Uh-huh. -Okay.

But w... Are you... are you saying

that you will completely walk away?

That you won't be going in and,

"Oh, what are we doing here? What are we doing there?"

You're gone, you're done, you're moving

-into a different direction. -I...

I have a shut-off date...

I'm not... I just told you, I'm not...

-60. -I can clearly see your lips moving.

-You're not... -(mutters)

-What-what are you doing? -I'm not saying anything.

What are you doing? Why don't... why don't I just tell you

outside of this?

-50 years old. -50.

50. At the age of 50.

-I broke you down. -You broke...

-Well, you didn't break me. -I broke you down.

-You didn't break me down. -I broke you.

Okay, this is ridiculous, is what it is.

Another one for you. This is a doozy, okay?

-This is a real doozy. -Uh-oh.

-So you say you don't have any other hobbies, right? -No.

You say you don't spend money on anything else.

You love to work.

You have a tequila, a mescal?

-Mescal. -Right, a mescal. Uh, you and,

-uh, Aaron Paul. -Aaron Paul and Dos Hombres.

-And Dos Hombres, right? -Yup.

This is kind of like an extracurricular activity.

I have the same work ethic that you do.

-Mm-hmm. -If I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna go all the way.

We-we talk to distributors of Dos Hombres everywhere,

and we say, "Look, this is no different

"than-than doing a film, a television series--

where I'm invested and I'm passionately involved."

-Mm-hmm. -We want to make our mescal

the number one mescal in the world.

Do you... do you love the space?

-I do. -You love the space?

-It's fascinating to me. -Yeah. Yeah.

And I'm learning so much. It's a... It's...

I'm carving out a new area.

And Aaron Paul is actually brilliant

-at the business in this. -He's a great guy, man.

BRYAN: He really is.

And he got me involved in this.

-It-it was his idea. -You guys

basically kept that relationship going after.

-Yeah. Yeah. -You maintained it.

I mean, that's a lot of years to work together, though.

A lot of years, work together, and as you know,

you-you do a film with someone,

and you're spending a lot of time with them.

-Mm-hmm. -And there's... there's a chance

-to be intimate, and we don't always... -Wait.

-Hang on. -Wait a second.

I meant in a platonic way,

-not in a sexual way. -Well... yeah.

-Okay. How...? -Not in the way you're thinking.

-I thought... I thought what you said. I-I would... -I...

I know exactly what you're thinking.

Yeah, I was thinking based off of what you said,

-but then you cleaned it up, which is why... -Intimate. Yeah.

-Okay. -You-you have these close rel...

-Close-- is that a better word? -Yes, better.

Close relationship, but you don't always become friends

-with someone who you work with. -Very true.

It's like, that's fine, that's cool, that's good.

And once in a while, "Oh, this guy

or this woman I can really bond with."

-Mm-hmm. -And Aaron Paul and I did.

Yeah, it brings me to-to us, you know?

-We spent a lot of time together during "The Upside." -Yeah.

-A lot of time. -A lot of time.

-I felt like we hit it off. -Yeah.

-I felt like... I felt like... -Yeah.

I left that set, and I could say, "Bryan's a friend of mine."

Yeah. That's called acting.

(laughs)

Well... well, that's...

well, that's hurtful.

-Let's just call it what it is. -(laughs)

That's just hurtful, okay?

I-I... I adore you.

Yeah, but I mean, like...

-You know what? -But how come I didn't get to where Aaron is?

-Like, why... like...? -Oh. Oh.

Do you like Aaron better?

Well, I've known him longer.

-Yeah, but still. Yeah. -Well, no.

He doesn't have anywhere near the charm

-and beauty that you have. -That's what I'm saying, man.

Like, what... like...?

All right. I guess.

I guess it's fine. I just... you know,

after hearing the way you just talked about Aaron

-and you guys doing things... -You know what you have that...

that not many people do? When I... And I...

When you're on the call sheet and you are one of the stars

-of a show or a movie or something... -Mm-hmm.

...um, you-you... you have to take responsibility for that.

-Mm-hmm. -It's a... it's a respon...

And you greet the crew,

and you, you know, engage with them.

And you came on...

I was prepared to do that on our movie,

like I'm... like I've always done.

And you came on and became the alpha dog.

-Mm. -And I was...

I stepped back to a beta.

-A beta. -A beta.

-You were the alpha. -I'm very...

-I was the beta. -I'm very big on that, though.

-Yeah. -I'm very big on...

the treatment of people and surroundings and the energy.

In all sincerity,

you made that set a... a joy to come to work on.

Mm-hmm.

-You really did. -Thank you, man.

-You really did. -Thank you.

And the same, the same, vice-versa. I'm-I'm...

I don't want to work with you again, but that show

-was amazing. -Wait. Bryan, you keep...

There's this weird thing that you do when I think

-I'm in a great space.... -No, I'm just being honest.

You know, I'm just being honest.

I think you appreciate the honesty.

I think it was a great space, and then you...

Appreciate the honesty? Yeah.

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I can say this.

I'm learning so much more about you in this conversation, man.

-(laughing quietly) -So much more...

outside of you being an asshole.

-(laughing) -I'm-I'm...

I'm learning so much more, man.

-Ooh. -And what I...

Just what I... what I truly do love

and respect is just your-your honesty.

Like, you're-you're... you're so transparent, man,

in-in this conversation.

Uh, if you appreciate the honesty,

l-let's break down a couple of the scenes you did and-and...

-Wait. No. No, no, no. -...figure it out.

-No, no. -There were a few mistakes that you...

No, no, we don't... we don't need to do that.

-The movie's over. -Oh, okay. Fine. Fine.

We don't need to do that. The movie's over.

Oh. Right. But if you ever want to know some...

-I don't... I don't want to know. -Okay. Got it. All right.

I don't want to know. I don't want to know.

-Okay. -Okay? But I do want to tell you

it's a... it's a true... it's a true, true joy

to just have this relationship with you.

To be able to talk to you and chat like this

because I'm still young. I'm a sponge, man.

-I'm a sponge, and I'm soaking up... -You're not...

-You're not that... Third quarter. -Well, no. I'm...

-I'm second quarter. -Third quarter.

-I'm second quarter. -All right.

Yeah. It's debatable.

We'll agree to disagree on it.

Or just understand that that's how I feel.

Uh, but I'm young,

and the things that you say I truly do listen to.

I-I process them, I bank them, I hold on to them.

And your approach to the craft, your approach to life,

uh, hearing just the way you talk,

it's... it's settling.

It puts a dope calm on me as to, "It's gonna be okay,

"and I'm doing the right thing,

I'm going in the right direction."

-Thank you. -What is Bryan Cranston working on now?

Before we get ready to go, before we wrap it up,

-what are you doing now? -(laughing)

-Oh. -By the way, "Your Honor" was amazing.

I didn't tell you that, yet.

-Oh, thanks, man. -Uh, amazing.

Thank you. Um...

there's a couple... there's a couple things

that-that are going on that-that...

Films in various stages.

You know, uh, "Upside" was incredibly successful.

-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -$120 million

at the box office or whatever, but I'm usually not very...

You're so good at picking successful movies,

-financially successful movies. -Mm-hmm.

I am not that...

I'm usually not that successful at doing that.

So are you looking...?

You're looking to do another theatrical now?

Yeah, I'm gonna do a play in Los Angeles early next year,

and I'm gonna do, um, a-a Wes Anderson movie

-in Spain, uh, soon. -Mm-hmm.

And then I hope to do a-a movie

with Annette Benning in, uh... in Massachusetts.

So it sounds like you got 'em...

you got them lined up pretty well.

Uh, uh, yes, l-lining up.

Yeah, you got 'em lined up.

-How far out do you go? -Two years.

Two years. You'll-you'll...

The rest... Yeah, two...

Uh, the end of 2022 is-is when I'm...

I'm booked up till then.

That's strong. That's very strong, man.

Is there a period of time that you've found,

"Okay, after I finish a movie or something,

I need X amount of weeks"?

I didn't before, but now... I-I now...

What is that number?

Three weeks, four weeks.

Three to four weeks. I don't... I don't... I don't need it.

-Oh, you need it. -No, no, no, no. I'm saying,

I don't need, like, "Oh, God. I got to take a break now.

Oh, I'm exhausted." I don't need it.

I'm saying I'm now learning to understand the importance

of making sure that I give that time to those that do need it.

And did this come after the accident?

Yes. Yes.

That pr... that quiet time, that downtime make you...

-KEVIN: Awakening. -Yeah.

KEVIN: The awakening of life.

So, do you look at the accident, now, as an odd blessing?

Thank you. A thank you. Absolutely. A thank you.

-I got yelled at. -Oh. Why?

I got yelled at. Doing too much.

Doing too much, moving too fast, and it's all "I, I, I, I, I."

"You think you're in control? Let me show you're not."

-That fast. -Yup.

-How quickly things can change. -That fast.

I was gonna say, that's the perfect segue

-into me closing this out, man. -Cool.

Like, your time here today is-is something

that I truly do appreciate, and I will value.

-Thank you. -Like, this was...

-This was exactly what was supposed to be. -Thank you.

-Open, great conversation. -Thanks.

Amazing dialogue. No prep, no nothing.

Now let's go to dinner.

No, we're not going to dinner, man.

I thought we were going to dinner. We should to go dinner.

No, Bryan. And-and thank you

for finishing your wine, by the way.

This is really good wine.

It's really good wine. It's really good wine.

It's a great conversation, as well.

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All right, a life anecdote, okay?

Another gem. I give you these gems

'cause I drop 'em daily, all right?

Your appetite is what you want it to be.

What I'm saying is, eat brussels sprouts,

but at the same time, don't complain

if it ain't no jelly on your biscuit. Take your time.

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