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Guys, we got quite the doozy today.

Why do I say that? Well, because that's what these shows are.

They're doozies, because our guests are amazing,

and today's show will be no different.

My guest-- well, she's a Grammy-nominated,

Billboard and MTV Video Music Award-winning

recording artist and actress.

She's what I like to call a triple threat.

I'm honored to have her here today.

Meeting her for what I would call my first time,

which makes it more exciting.

-Miley Cyrus. How are you? -Hey.

-What's up, Kevin Hart? -How are you? Oh, Kevin Hart.

-I like that. I like the... -Full names.

-Full name-- Miley Cyrus, Kevin Hart. -Yeah.

-Yeah. -Miley, before we get into anything,

I got to give you the description of what this is.

-All right. -Okay?

I like the fact that I'm taking a big risk

and doing what hasn't really been done, right?

Talk shows. Normally we go on them,

we know what's gonna happen. We know the questions

they're gonna ask you, you know the world

of conversation, you know what it's gonna be.

-Mm-hmm. -I'm taking a risk!

-Yep. -I don't want to talk before.

I want to get to meet people, get to know people.

Taking risks? That's kind of my specialty.

-That's your specialty? -Yeah.

Well, then, that's what this is. This is us

having a conversation for the first time.

We're doing it here, and this is a pun that's intended.

We're gonna have ourselves a "Hart to Heart."

-Hey... -Huh?

Did you, did you zoom in when I said that?

that was a perfect... I said we're gonna have

a "Hart to Heart," and I did this.

Hopefully you caught that.

Uh, Miley, I also believe in

drinking wine. I think conversations

get much better, uh, when wine is involved.

-I like it. -So I hope that you like wine,

-Yes, please. -'cause that's what we do here.

-Yes, please. -Yes, please? All right, I've got a som.

This is my-my som.

-Hi, how's it going? -Ms. Cyrus, how are you today?

I'm doing great. What's your name?

-DLynn. Happy to pour -Hey, nice to meet you.

some amazing wines and happy to meet you, as well.

What do we have today?

2015. Something with a little bit of age on it.

-Ooh! -MILEY: Hey!

-Old Vine Carignan. -Give me a little bit of age.

-Sexy. -Yes, it is.

I say "som" because I struggle with the word

-sommelier sometimes, so... -Yeah. "Som."

Som. Yeah.

Well, I really respect you.

That craft and the time that it takes

to become a som. I watched a documentary

-about it. This is intense. -Thank you very much.

-No, he's real. -And a lot of purpose

and your life is very dedicated

to this craft and, uh, I respect it.

Thank you kindly. You're absolutely gonna enjoy this.

-Thank you. -Okay. -Fresh pepper.

Tobacco. Smoked meats.

-Don't threaten me with a good time! -Hey!

-Little bit of black cherry. -Don't threaten me with a good time!

(stammers) I'm-a drink the fresh pepper!

-Right? Thank you. -(laughs) Enjoy. Thank you.

-Let's rock. -Uh, cheers.

-Cheers. Cheers. -To you and I. Right?

-Great conversation, great dialogue. -I love it.

I appreciate you doing this. This is cool.

Thank you. I like-- This is as big as my face.

This is what I... this is... this is great.

-That's what you want to drink out of. -Mm-hmm.

Uh, Miley, where do we start?

First of all, I guess I got to get you flowers first.

A tremendous amount of respect for you and your success.

-Thank you. -Your story, where you've come from,

where you now are.

I bow down to people in the entertainment business

that have done so much and continue to do.

I know it's, uh, a hard task.

It's not one that's easy.

Yeah, and you know, I think...

Oh, fuck. I forgot my mic's on my jacket. Sorry.

-You got that comfortable already. -That's okay. Yeah.

-You got that comfortable... -You al...

-already. -This what a cheap date I am.

Do you know, I took one sip of wine,

-and I took my jacket off. -Yes.

I'm known for a lot of things.

My class isn't always one of them.

Well, we will get into it.

And I don't agree. It is one of them.

It has to be one of them because...

Self-deprecation is also one of my things,

you know what I mean? I-I got...

-I got, I got some class. -I, um...

But I also like to put on a show.

I know what people like to see.

-Mm-hmm. -I know what they don't like to see,

and then they like to talk about it for a long period of time.

-Mm-hmm. -And so that sometimes works for my advantage also.

Well, I mean, look, I want to start from the beginning

because there's a lot that I know

and there's a lot that I don't know.

Right? The world of Disney

and the success that you had in that space is unreal,

monumental, right, when you had your show.

I-I want to know how that came about.

Like, what-what was the road to get there first,

before-before we get to where you are now,

just talk to me about the beginning stages, right?

How-how do you get the show that you got?

Well, it's kind of a funny story.

I got cast for "Hannah Montana" 'cause I was 12.

So, a couple of girls that I knew

that were on, you know, going to school with me,

and we were on the same cheerleading team...

-Mm-hmm. -They were going to L.A.

to audition for Disney,

-Mm-hmm. -and I begged my mom to let me go with them.

-Okay. -So I went across the country.

My mom actually wouldn't fly.

My mom was terrified of flying.

So we drove for three days from Nashville to California.

-You and... you and your friends? -My mom, my grandma...

So, well, here's the story. So they went.

I went with them. I end up getting called back.

-None of them got called back. -Oh, wow.

So they weren't super stoked that I went along for the trip.

Did that, did that affect your friendship?

I-- at that point--

I was already going through some bullying.

-Wasn't really feeling like I fit quite in. -Mm-hmm.

Um, the arts and kind of creative,

you know, I guess community surrounding me in Nashville,

-it wasn't really that strong, um... -Okay. Okay.

I think a lot of people were kind of more okay

with just blending in,

and I've always wanted to stand out and be different

and also be confrontational,

and I guess kind of, um...

just...

I don't think I fit in, in the small town that I was in.

-Okay. -And so...

it did effect my friendships,

but I think that was kind of inevitable--

that I was gonna kind of outgrow my town at some point.

Especially just because of my political views

or my religious views and, um, yeah, kind of being...

My-my granddad was a Democratic state legislator,

so we were always kind of, like, very outspoken.

Um, and so, yeah, it did kind of affect my friendships.

What's the... what's the town? You say small town.

-Nashville, Tennessee. -Nashville.

But I'm from a small area called Thompson's Station.

-Thompson's Station. Okay. -Yeah, where my dad still lives

on the same farm that I grew up on.

500 acres.

Surrounded by just, you know, land.

When you talk about, you know,

the outgrowing side of the small town,

is there still love?

Is there a love-hate relationship?

Is it just a hate relationship?

-No. -Like, what's your relationship with Thompson?

I don't have a lot of, um...

I don't have a lot of hate in my heart

-for kind of anything. -I love that.

-Mm-hmm. I like that. -Hate in my heart.

But, yeah, so my friends took me to California.

I auditioned. I got called back.

My mom wouldn't fly, so we drove,

um, and I went back to California again.

-Did another audition. I got another callback. -You-you drove twice?

I've driven from Nashville to California

so many times 'cause of my mother,

-(chuckling) -and I have five brothers and sisters,

so we'd all pile in the car with all of our dogs.

Um, except I loved when my grandma--

rest in peace-- would take me,

because she would let me drink Pepsi,

and I'm already super hyped

and I wasn't allowed to have any of that.

By the-- when I sat down on that plane,

that was the first thing I did.

I mean, if they would've given me an IV of it,

I would have taken it. Like, I drank so much Pepsi.

And then my grandma would drop down, we'd go to the pier.

We'd spend-- I spent a lot of time with my grandma.

My grandma, who I have tattooed on my arm,

ran my fan club out of my little kitchen

of my dressing room my entire childhood.

Signed every picture, unless she liked the picture of me,

then she kept it and framed it and put it in her house.

So, here-here's the question, right?

And this is, this is the part where...

I'm more curious than anything.

You know, you-you say there's a lot of back and forth,

uh, with you with the callbacks and stuff.

You get the part for the show.

The show ends up becoming a hit and success that it is.

Well, actually...

they hired someone else.

They didn't hire me because...

So I got called back, called back, called back,

and then they said I was too small, too young.

I had, I literally had, like, four teeth.

I'm from Nashville. That's, like, kind of a normal thing.

-(laughing) -But I really only had four teeth,

and on those four teeth were braces.

And I remember coming back for the callback--

somehow I lost, like...

Give me a real number of teeth. Like...

-give me a real number, Miley. -Dude, I don't know

if you put up pictures in the show.

When I show you a picture--

I had four teeth,

and the four teeth I did have had braces on them.

-Okay. All right. -But... I don't know

if you've ever seen clear braces.

-Don't do it, because they just looked nasty. -(laughing)

And my mom was like, "We have to get the clear ones,

"because you're doing all these callbacks

"and no one wants to see Hannah Montana

with big brackets on her teeth."

So she got me the clear ones, but they were disgusting.

After all those Pepsis with my grandma,

they were, like, brown.

And so then I showed up with, like, yeah, with my four teeth.

And I remember them looking at me, like, "What happened?"

-(laughing) -You know, kids, you're just changing so much.

And, like, every time I would come back,

something new would have changed.

Like, now I've got, like, cystic acne

-'cause I'm growing... It kept getting kind of worse. -(laughing)

Um, and so then they hired someone else.

They shot a pilot.

They went and showed the pilot to a bunch of kids, and...

How long were you going back? So, um...

From the time I was, uh,

probably, like, ten, ten-and-a-half,

and I booked it when I was 12.

-So between two years... -Two years of auditioning?

-Two years of auditioning. -Miley, are you kidding me?

And not getting the part.

And then they showed it to these, you know,

they showed it to kids. They'll do those, like,

kind of screenings and see if people are resonating

and relating to the characters.

So, the show was in development for two-and-a-half years?

-Yeah. And forth. -While you were going back... Wow.

Kind of like a... almost like a "Ferris Bueller,"

like, "Max's Big Day Off."

So I thought for sure I had got the role.

-Mm-hmm. -So I kind of started, like,

wreaking havoc at my school

because I thought I was never gonna have to go back.

-(laughing) -And so, finally, I was like, you know what,

I'm just gonna go crazy.

All... I had, like, honestly,

I had like six boyfriends, like, I was like,

I'm just gonna, like, figure all this out.

Then they didn't cast me.

And then I was stuck. Everyone, like...

I had just turned everyone kind of against me.

At that point...

I was trying to basically just make out

with everyone that was at my school.

-(laughing) -And I remember I had gone to Canada,

and someone had explained to me what French kissing was.

And I came back and I told the whole class,

"Guess what I learned while I was in Canada."

And, like, I could tell, like, all the teachers were like,

"Oh, this is gonna be great, What did you learn

while you were traveling outside of the country?"

I was like, "I learned how to French kiss."

And then I wanted to show this girl that was in my class,

and she went with it.

And then I got in-school suspension,

which they put me in this, like...

I don't know if you're allowed to humiliate kids

-at school anymore. -No, you're not.

-You're not supposed to... -There was, like, a glass room where there was,

like, in-school suspension, and I was...

I hold the record to be the youngest child

to ever get suspended in my school.

* Dun, da, da, da. *

-By the way, are you proud? -Yeah.

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When you say... All right, there's this rebel in you.

There's this thing that you have.

And you're aware of it. You're not blind to it.

You're like, "Look, I was... I was...

"I was a wild kid. I was a bad kid.

At this point, I was doing 'X,' 'Y,' 'Z.'"

Where do you think it came from?

Um...

Probably my dad's mother.

-Okay. -Who, um, basically...

Yeah, she just-just lived.

-We'll just leave it at "She lived." -Okay.

And she drives a lawn mower

like it's a car.

-Okay. -Because she's not allowed to drive

because she's had a lot of, like...

-She likes to drink some alcohol. -Yeah, she had

-some trouble. -So, we took her...

-She had some DUI trouble. -They took her license,

but she's like,

"You don't need a license to drive a lawn mower."

(chuckles): So she takes the lawn mower everywhere.

She is usually in little, like, white booty shorts,

which no one wants to see their grandma in.

But, like, I... But love her.

And she wears these, like, Looney Tunes shoes,

and-- which is very fitting--

and she drives a lawn mower like a vehicle.

And y-you're... But you're... You couldn't be happier.

-You couldn't be ha... -Yeah. And she has all white hair

but, like, fire red eyebrows.

-And she only uses... (chuckles) -(laughing)

She uses

the same... She's used the same nail polish

her whole life, which is periwinkle.

And, uh, last time...

The one thing that was kind of really good during quarantine

was I went and spent a lot of time with my family,

-and I learned a lot of things. -Mm-hmm.

Like, I never noticed

the periwinkle nail polish, and there was a whole story.

And, so, I... I think a lot of us, like...

I mean, some of us were keeping our distance,

but we kind of isolated on this farm, which is my dad...

My dad's been isolating on his farm since 1992,

and he kept looking at us going, "Isn't this great?

I've been telling you guys."

Like, you know, social distancing?

My dad's been social distancing.

-He's been isolating. -He's been... He's been living a...

-He's been in quarantine. -...a life of quarantine

-for a long time. -Yeah.

-Yeah. -So, all right.

So, then you get the... You get the fucking show.

Like, you get the show.

Now that you got the show, you know, this-this...

the rebel that once was

back here in Tennessee, well, you can't...

-You can't give that presentation to them. -Yeah.

But I was also... So, as much as I was a rebel,

I also...

I think there was...

I never did anything, even as a child,

-to intentionally hurt anyone. -Got you.

-Got you. Mm-hmm. -You know? So my rebellion...

Except the boys. Fuck the boys.

-You know what I'm saying? These boys... -Okay. They're stupid boys.

Yeah, these boys, they-they deserved it.

But not... I mean...

I wouldn't have been... Like, it's not all boys.

Oh, it was a whole thing. Well, one of them told me

that there was a rumor going around,

which now I take as a compliment.

They said that he only wanted to be my boyfriend

'cause he knew one day, I was gonna be a big star.

But I didn't even know. And my... Because I always had

a really low, raspy voice, my drama teacher

-would only... (groans) -(laughing)

...would only-- who I do hope is watching--

would only hire me as, like, some old man.

Like, I was always,

like, the fisherman with two lines,

where I would be like,

"Hello." Like, "Welcome to my boat."

Or, like, something weird.

And, so, yeah, she-she had it out for me,

and so she... Yeah, she made me, like, the old, hairy man

in, like, every friggin' play that we had.

Um, her son

was one of the boyfriends that I was cheating on,

-so I got my revenge. -News to you. Who got the last laugh?

-Yeah, I got... -Huh?

I got my revenge. But, anyways, so then,

no one really knew that I was really gonna do anything

because she never really let me shine.

-Got you. -Except for one play, I...

We all got to write, like, our own monologue,

and I did a... I wrote a monologue

about, like, metamorphosis, about, like, evolving

from a caterpillar into a butterfly.

And I came dressed as the butterfly and the whole thing.

And everyone started crying, because it was like...

I think it was... It was really...

It wasn't really about the butterflies.

It was about everyone that I could see,

and I could see, like, the potential

-in my class, and, like... -Oh, wow.

-I could also... -I thought you were gonna say

-it was about you. -I mean, it was about me,

but it was also, like, I feel like that's a...

I really...

Something that's really important to me

is helping other people find

-their fullest potential, also. -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Um, but that's something in my adult life

that I've also had to detach from slightly

because sometimes, you can see something

in someone that they can't always see

-in themselves. -That they can't see in themselves. Yeah.

And so it can be very frustrating.

And so you have to...

come from a place of love and support

but not in a place of, "Well, look what I've done.

If you follow..." It's like, everyone's gonna find

their own place at their own time,

-and... -I just had this same conversation

-two weeks ago. -It's so...

-With? -I swear to God.

I-I just had the same conversation

with Will Smith two weeks ago,

and Will Smith was talking to me

about, uh, giving advice.

-Mm-hmm. -And how he's now learned

that the way that he used to give advice

was coming from such a arrogant,

-uh, and cocky perspective of... -Mm-hmm.

-I try to avoid advice. -He-he was saying, like,

"I-I basically was giving advice to say,

-'Here's how I've done it, and now you can do it, too.'" -Mm-hmm.

Which is ultimately saying,

"You can do this and then become me."

And when he said it,

a light bulb went off to me in that time,

and I was like, "Damn."

You know, I'm guilty of the same thing.

Like, we had a real conversation,

-and it's all information now. -I think... I think living

without expectations

and knowing that no one

-owes you anything... -Mm-hmm.

That's been something that has just changed

the way that I'm able

to express my compassion.

I mean, I've lived, like,

-so many lives. We really all have. -Yeah.

-You know? Like, I feel... -In different stages.

-Different stages in life. -Everyone lives

in such these, like, you know... in these chapters.

And sometimes, when you look at someone that you've been,

it can almost feel like you're looking

at someone that you don't know at all, 'cause my life

is so...

I cannot believe it's my own.

I truly believe I'm one of the luckiest fucking people.

I'm sitting with you in a castle, drinking wine, laughing.

Everyone here is so amazing for putting this together,

and I get to talk about my life.

And, like, my life is...

I cannot believe it's mine. I feel so lucky.

So I have a hard time admitting

that I maybe need help balancing something

because I'm overwhelmed

because I feel guilty about being overwhelmed.

Because how dare I for a second feel...

...you know, I guess, some sort

of hurt or fear, because... Almost like I don't deserve it.

But I also...

have become much more

fluid and flexible

and way less concrete in this... in my sense of self.

And I...

don't really have a definite sense of who I am.

You said, like, sometimes, you feel... you feel guilty.

-Mm-hmm. -Like, you know, "Oh, my God. I have this life.

"I have this-this thing

"and all of these things, and I'm so lucky.

Sometimes I feel bad about feeling a certain way."

I wonder why you feel guilty about that

when, yes, you-you can attach luck to it.

Let's not... Let's not... Let's not attach luck,

-because, of course, there is some luck. -Mm-hmm.

But you just got finished talking to me

about, uh, a consistent drive from Nashville to L.A.

-That's not luck. -Mm-hmm.

But, I mean, even when we started this conversation

and you said, like, "I'm really interested

in talking to people that started..."

You said something like,

"Started at the bottom and now...

-and-and made it" or something. -Absolutely.

I really had a hard time with that, because my brain

goes, "You wouldn't know what that is.

-You wouldn't know what that's like." -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

-And, again, I think... -Wait, you say

-your brain goes, as in the person... -My brain tells myself

that I don't deserve that statement.

-Why? -Uh, because...

I'm working on this, but because I feel that...

I think that I've got...

I-I know. I don't think. I know

that if I took that moment to reprogram,

which I'm doing now,

to have a moment of gratitude

that says, like, I...

One, my parents.

My mom got in the car

-and drove her child for three days out of love. -Mm-hmm.

Not to be famous. Not for me to be rich.

-Not for me to take care of her. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

For me to do what I love, my mom got in the car

and would drive me across the country for three days.

And then all my siblings picked up.

Not only did I have to transfer

and leave my school and leave my friends.

All my siblings did the exact same thing for me,

for their sister to go live their dream.

-Mm-hmm. -And my dad,

who was kicking and screaming

the whole time until he got hired.

Then he's like, "We're going to California!"

But the whole time, he was always like,

"I'm not leaving this farm.

I..." And, you know, and then he's also...

He told me, "This is gonna be a heartbreak.

"Like, you are gonna get so many doors

"slammed in your face.

You are gonna have so much pressure."

And I think that was just him

trying to really protect me, but, again,

he went with it, my whole family, so...

I think if I took that moment to just acknowledge,

"You're right, you know? Kevin just appreciated

that you worked really hard." And that means a lot.

And then, also, on top of that, the...

like, miraculous truth

that my family, out of all the families

that I could have come from the heavens

and been a part of

is the one that I have.

-Mm-hmm. -And it happens to be

a dad who...

Our jukebox was just filled

with female rock and roll singers,

-blues singers. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

My dad... I hated Etta James

by the time "Hannah Montana" was over

because my dad played it every single day.

-Mm-hmm. -And Stevie Nicks and Joan

and, you know. So my dad, he celebrated women.

He celebrated... I think that's why I'm so,

um, kind of steadfast in the idea of what I want,

is 'cause dad showed me Janis Joplin.

My dad would, you know, watch Debbie Harry.

And so I have this, like, father

who never told me, "Don't pick up a guitar."

-You know, "Go grab ballet slippers or something." -Mm-hmm.

-Mm-hmm. -He always said, "Go pick up the electric guitar."

My dad's left-handed. He'd had me playing an upside-down guitar

-for my whole life, but that's just very much us. -(chuckles)

And then my... mom, who...

Anything I wanted to try,

-like, she never judged me. -Mm-hmm.

She watched me, you know, bounce off my head

while trying to do back handsprings,

and she took me to go to all my...

My mom was just so dedicated to her kids.

And-and there was five of us,

so she did that equally for all of us.

My siblings were so selfless.

Like, if I could've just taken that moment of...

to have gratitude instead,

it would've changed the whole conversation.

I'm gonna tell you something.

First of all, I'm-I'm no therapist.

Okay? Not in any way, shape or form.

But I'm... From listening to you, there's a lot of self-work.

There's a lot of self-evolvement.

Like, there's... And I can-I can-I can hear it.

I can see it.

I'm not a spiritual guy.

-I'm not, like, overly spiritual. -Mm.

I believe that...

stars could possibly be...

picked.

You could possibly be picked from the gate.

When you first talked to me, you talked to me

about a small town. You're talking about a farm.

-And you're talking about "I outgrew." -Mm-hmm.

It was... it was already a thing. It was...

"It just wasn't for me. I was..."

It was in you from the beginning.

-Mm. -Whether you... whether you felt it or not.

I wish I could sit up here and say

I didn't have star-like qualities as a child.

-I'm not being cocky. -Mm.

But I'm telling you, as a young kid, I had it.

-Mm-hmm. -I had it.

At a... at a event

when my swim team was giving out awards and trophies,

-I was the worst swimmer. -(chuckles)

I never practiced or nothing.

But I chose the banquet...

When we're supposed to come up and say thank yous,

I did a monologue that was basically a comedy routine.

-It wasn't written. -Yeah. Yeah.

It was off the top. Everybody's falling out their seats.

-Yeah. -When I look back at that moment now, oh, my God.

-Yeah. -It was always in me to be a comedian.

-Mm. -The road to discovery of how I was gonna do it,

well, that was one that... you know, it kind of...

it kind of mapped out the way it was.

-But I was chosen. -Yeah.

-That's not luck. -And I feel that my...

You know, like we were talking to...

you know, about being a sommelier

or anything you want to become, my diligence...

And I know that my diligence and my efforts

and my dedication

is what really got me into the position that I'm in

-and it... what keeps me here. -Mm-hmm. Mm.

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When we talked about that rebellion--

I think a lot of the rebellion--

I actually feel like I wasn't able

because I was so in my head.

Now I feel like I can articulate it better than I could

when we started...

was the rebellion also was coming as a...

to me, as a form of entertainment for my class

and for my friends.

I mean, when I was, like, you know, again...

Who I am... It's so funny,

because we just talked so much about evolution--

who I am sitting in this chair

is almost exactly who was sitting in that chair

-in the classroom with the... spitting out the notes. -So dope.

-So dope. -But also completely fucking whole-r.

Like, I'm also so different.

-Mm-hmm. -And, for me,

because... there was so much focus

on who I... who I was at a time,

which was a character,

um, and there were... again, a lot of my-my value as a human

was chalked up to that, you know,

to Hannah Montana, to that identity.

So, I got cast at 12 years old,

and that's obviously just the spongiest,

most absorbent time in your life

and, again, a-a time of just self-discovery

and there's just so many things that are happening and changing

and just, you know... Again, I have five brothers and sisters

and they're growing up and we're figuring out our dynamic.

And, um, you know, the concept of the show

is that when I would alter my image

and I would put on a wig and I would,

you know, put on sparkly things,

-that I held a new value... -Mm-hmm.

...that I was valuable.

Um, it did translate into my real life.

There was...

...a different level of, like,

hysteria when Hannah Mon...

I mean, it was actually kind of crazy being Hannah Montana.

Now I have a hard time remembering

exactly what that felt like, but, um,

there was, you know, the way that kids would react

at these, like, Hannah shows

versus when I was myself and I would meet fans out.

-It was... it was different. And so... -Mm.

Again, o-on that, like, kind of psychological level,

um, I guess that's kind of why, originally,

um...

when I first started doing,

like, solo projects as my own identity,

-I'd almost create... -Mm-hmm.

kind of alter egos of myself.

Because I thought you almost...

that I, Miley... 'Cause my name was Miley on the show, too,

which it wasn't. You know,

when my... when my friends from Nashville

were going to audition, obviously, the...

the name wasn't Miley, but I embodied the character so much

that... they...

the writers thought it made most sense

for Hannah to be Miley

because of how much I truly was the character.

-Wow. -And it didn't really feel like a character.

I just said, "Okay,

"someone's told me I'm Hannah Montana.

I am now Hannah Montana."

-And anything that I create for her... -One... You're in.

-100%. ...I am in. It's like...

It's beyond method,

because I was growing up as her. She was me.

Like, there was no divide between us.

That's who I was.

There was the 15-year Hannahversary.

And this was 15 years of my show being on air.

-And I spent the day... -(exhales)

Wow.

...thinking,

"What do I want to do with my next 15 years?"

That was what I dedicated my day to.

And, usually, I would feel I wasn't doing enough if I wasn't,

you know, talking with the fans, creating.

But I thought, "This day is, like, bigger than a b..."

It is a birthday, almost, to me.

And, like, I really feel...

we were talking about spirituality--

that I needed to, on that day--

I wrote a letter to Hannah Montana from myself.

Holy shit.

CYRUS: And it was about, you know,

just my gratitude towards the character.

Wa-Was it suggested?

Or is this something that you...

-you came up with and you did? -No, I thought about it.

I thought about it. I, um...

-That's strong. -I... I-I don't think anyone

really could've told me to do it,

because a lot of the people that are around me now

were not in that three-day car ride

-with me and my mom, you know? -That's strong, man. That's strong.

That was like...

It was just...

Yeah, so now... so now when I wrote this letter

and I was able to kind of, like...

make peace with it,

um, I thought...

and "peace" being the kind of key word of the story--

is that, when I thought, "What do I want the next 15 years?

What's my..." 'Cause I knew, when I was in that car,

driving the three days to California,

what I wanted, I guess, these next 15 years to look like.

I knew what I wanted, so I was able

to achieve it, because, everything that I did,

I would know for a fact if I was taking a step forward

or backwards, because I knew my destination.

-Mm-hmm. -And I think, you know,

clarity and knowing what you want,

you're able to make each day count.

So I really spent this anniversary

thinking about what I wanted.

And it's kind of vague,

um, but somehow says any... everything.

It was about "I want to find peace."

The way that people feel that they've been reborn

-or saved... -Mm-hmm.

...I feel that I have been six weeks ago.

I feel like everything changed six weeks ago for me.

* *

* *

My mom also was amazing,

and she... archived

-and kept everything from, like... -Mm-hmm.

...all my schedules, all... everything.

Six weeks ago, I found this schedule--

one of the first times I'd ever traveled

to promote "Hannah Montana."

I was only, probably, like, 12 years old,

and we were going to Europe.

And, um, they even had, like, nap time

-built in the schedule for me, 'cause I was a child. -Mm-hmm.

And, um, when I looked at the schedule,

I felt like this coat of, like, armor came on

to protect

my, uh, like, innocent ste... self that still lives.

Because, actually, when I looked at that schedule, it upset me.

Because I felt that it...

wasn't really c-considering my best interests at...

I don't think anyone did anything to ever intentionally,

you know, abuse me as a child to work,

because I wanted to do it. But the schedule now,

if you would look at this for one of your own children,

-I think you would be kind of in shock. -It's... It was...

-It's insane. The-the hours, the work... -Yeah. I think it was...

-...and what the... what the time's being dedicated to. -It was shocking. It was: land.

Get ready in the limo.

In the limo, do, uh, interviews at the same time.

Get to the hotel.

You know, become Hannah.

Do a concert. Go to the studio.

There was really... And then there was, like, 20 minutes

for nap time and lunch,

which we know that you cannot have lunch

-and take a nap as a child in 20 minutes. -Mm-hmm.

And when I looked at it, um...

and one of my team members who's here said,

"How does it make you feel?"

My immediate reaction was

that this is why I'm who I am

and that everyone else around me, if you don't work this hard,

-you're never gonna... It was the Will Smith, you know? -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

If you don't look at this schedule and know

that this is what it takes, you're never...

My... Instead of knowing that, oh, it's...

I'm act... That wasn't a place of...

it... of the ego.

It was actually a place of, like, hurt.

-Mm. -And, like, I guess, as a child, that made me...

It didn't feel like that was best for me.

-Mm. -And so, by looking at that schedule

and just putting my ego aside and going,

"That, in some way, affected me and hurt me."

You know, but instead of looking at that

and going from that reaction of ego, like,

"I can't feel it. I can't admit it,"

I instead just even sent a text and said,

"I'm really sorry that I kind of exploded at that moment."

Because, really, what I... It was much easier to feel anger

than to feel a little bit of, like, pain in that.

And so, just looking at those things,

looking at the schedules, looking at...

And also, it said in the beginning of the agenda,

of the calendar, it said like, "We think

"that if this week goes as planned,

this is going to be a really huge success."

And it basically, you know...

There was... there was no importance

of sleeping or eating.

And so that-- at that age of 12 years old--

taught me if you want to be successful,

-you can't sleep and you can't eat. -Uh, what I...

The great thing about what's happening right now...

I can almost promise you...

studios, producers, networks, right?

Hearing a...

a real talk, a real conversation,

a real back-and-forth, and now hearing,

well, the impact of said thing, or said workload...

-Mm-hmm. -...right, on young adult,

at whatever time in their life,

"Oh, wow. We-we...

-we can do better, right?" -Mm-hmm.

Like, you're-you're...

This conversation now...

puts the pressure on those people

that are in charge at those times, in those places

to understand.

-"We can do better. -Mm-hmm.

We can be more mindful." Right?

And at a time where, like you said, it may not be malicious.

-Mm. -It's not, you know, done with ill will.

-Everybody's trying to hustle... -Yeah.

because everybody's trying to work to get this thing.

-And everybody's goal is the thing. -Yeah.

And it's got to work, and this is how we got to do to get it.

Which is fine. I'm not disregarding that.

I'm saying that you're-you're... you're bringing up something

that ultimately makes people have to be more aware.

-Mm-hmm. -Right?

And it couldn't be a better time,

because it's what's... it's what's happening now.

-Mm-hmm. -If you look at the now,

-now it's all about people becoming more aware. -Mm-hmm.

Aware of your words, aware of the impact that your words

may have, aware of acceptance,

aware of equality, aware of, you know,

difference within people and understanding

and-and, you know, compassion.

And there's room for rest.

There's room for self.

There's room for mind, rest, whatever it may be.

'Cause what we're talking about relates to everyone.

-Mm-hmm. -Everybody works so hard

to maintain a lifestyle and take care of themselves

-and their families. -Absolutely.

Regardless of what you do. Absolutely.

And everyone so hard, that if we pivot this to, like...

to the importance of creativity,

to the importance of family time.

I think, you know, it's been probably one

of the greatest things to happen to us,

but also one of the worst.

It's been detrimental, I think, to have our cell phones

basically creating an office for us at all times, where

if you are unavailable, and no one can reach you

at 2:00 in the morning, it's that you're not dedicated.

-Mm-hmm. -That you don't care.

And honestly, people lose their jobs

for not being willing to live at that-that height of pressure.

-Mm-hmm. -If you... if you value, you know, family time,

if you value Sundays, if you val...

-then you must not want it enough. -Mm-hmm.

And you're not worthy of this job,

and you're not worthy of the success,

and so we're going to give it to someone else

who's willing to run on zero

and to not have a quality of life.

But they're...

Yeah, I can't be that person anymore.

I remember when, um, Justin Bieber came out

-with, like, his 3D movie. -Mm-hmm.

And he invited me to the premiere.

And I was sitting in front of him,

and his mom, like, tapped me on the shoulder and said,

"Is there any, like, advice..."--

which I couldn't believe, because I was so young--

"...that you want to give to Justin?"

And it was, I said, "If you can..."

You know, there's-there's kind of, like, different techniques

of, like, Reiki tapping and things like this.

But I said, "If you could, like, kind of almost tap yourself

"on the side of your head and almost push 'record' on moments

that you want to remember, because I don't remember."

-And I was only probably 17 or 18, but I had said -Wow.

-"I want you to remember this." -Wow.

Like, you've got, you know, speaking of people,

like Will Smith, all these people

coming to watch this 3D movie of this kid

who was just putting videos on YouTube two years ago.

And I didn't know where his career was gonna go,

or how long it was gonna last.

I didn't know the same thing about my own.

And I just said, "I just want you to remember.

"So, like, if you can try to record moments like this

"in your head, or write them down and, like, take a moment

"to inhale and, like, know what this theater smells like,

-right now." Just remember. -Be present. Yeah.

-Because I cannot remember. -I got a blur.

-Mm-hmm. -I got a... I got a heavy blur

-of some periods. -Mm-hmm.

-I remember big moments. -Mm-hmm.

But I got a blur

-of some in between, and... -Mm-hmm.

I have been in my machine for quite some time, right?

And, you know, I don't have to go into crazy detail

'cause it's... it's about... it's about you,

and it's about my-my conversation with you.

But I'm telling you, I can relate

at such a high level

of what you're saying about...

Because you... 'Cause without having the-the blink to record

-and-and-and really capture... -Uh-huh.

-it's gone. It's gone. -Mm-hmm.

And because we're in this machine,

-you're on to the next thing. -Mm-hmm.

And the next thing may not be bigger

than the thing that was before.

And the thing after that thing may not be bigger, or it may be.

But you're so focused on the back-to-back.

You're so focused on the train.

You're-you're so focused on forward progression,

more success, more wins, more,

-more, more. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

-You're feeding this thing. -"More" is my favorite word.

What is this for you? Be honest. This conversation. Us.

-This conversation? -Yes. What is this for you?

This conversation, um, for me.

I think that I've had a...

I felt very disconnected

from my community of creatives for a long time.

-Mm-hmm. -And I was having truly--

when we sat in these chairs-- an out-of-body experience.

I was not here with you. I was in my robo mode,

you know, that I was taught to have of,

"Today you told Kevin Hart

you would sit down and have a conversation."

But I-I was not here to sit and have a conversation with you.

I was still doing all the things that you just talked about.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

And I would've missed out on something.

And I should know that more people like you and I

are going through all the things we just talked about.

-Mm-hmm. -And I should ask them if they're okay

and if they need a friend, if they ever want to talk about it.

So it's really nice of you to do that.

I'm going to...

In conclusion, I'm gonna say something to you, and I mean it.

-Mm-hmm. -What I'm about to say, right?

Uh... I've never met Miley Cyrus.

I don't... I don't know you.

We don't have a relationship.

The purpose, like I told you, behind this is

to have real talks with real people, right?

And people that have these crazy platforms

that you think you know, but you don't know.

And through a real conversation that's not predetermined

or, you know, premeditated or programmed,

things will come out.

Conversation and talk will come out.

And in that, you can possibly walk away with a different idea.

And not just the audience, myself included, right?

Like, I really genuinely want to get to know the people

that I'm talking to, because there's a...

an abundance of respect for these people.

After talking to you today,

you've not only shined a light

on things that I personally have been through, right?

You've also shined a light, like, w...

There's so much synergy

in these stories of... success, right?

When you talk about where you come from.

When you talk about making it from here,

going to here, the amount of times back and forth,

you have no idea how many people share that.

In the world of spiritual,

and in the world of thinking how you think,

I'm gonna wrap this up by saying something

that just hit me as we were talking.

You're talking about this... confusion, right,

that so many people have now

who simply aren't aware, as we were talking.

You're not aware because we assume.

We assume so much about the other person,

about the other race, about the sex,

about the... the love for same sex or not,

or choice of person and what they want to be.

We have so much assumption.

And the reason why we have so much assumption

is because we haven't taken the time to truly talk.

We haven't taken the time to truly talk

and to truly understand.

And if people... if people understand

the power in conversation, the power in dialogue,

the power in back-and-forth,

then you'll ultimately get to the... to the place of solution.

That place is so far away

-because people aren't willing to do this. -Mm-hmm.

I'm walking away from this conversation

with such an amazing understanding of who you are,

and I think that person is dope as fuck. I mean it.

-Thank you. -I think you're dope as fuck.

-Ditto. -And you now...

You've now got not only a new fan, but a friend.

Like, I'm comfortable saying, "Yo, I talked to Miley.

Miley's dope as hell."

And you're an amazing guest, yo.

-Ladies and gentlemen... -I really enjoyed it.

I appreciate it. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, Miley Cyrus.

Goddamn it. What an amazing conversation.

-What an amazing show. -Thank you.

-Thank you, Miley. -Love you with all my Hart.

-Nice. -Hey! Commercial spot.

Now I'm in the commercial.

-(laughs) Holy shit. -Cool.

I mean, I don't know what you're talking about.

Like, I'm so glad I met you.

-Yeah, this was... This is it. -This is it.

-This is the way to do it. -This was the way to go.

Today's life anecdote is what I like to call a gem. (chuckles)

You may want to pick this one up as soon as I drop it.

Here we go. Why do you have elbows?

For the same reason why you have joints.

What I'm saying is, every once in a while, smoke one.

Huh? Come on, now.

Come on, now. Did everybody get that?

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