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[Haunting music]
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- Over to there, 7 and 8?
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Sold $27.
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- A voice said...
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Both: I see you
bought the dybbuk box.
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- A dybbuk box?
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- It's what my
grandmother called it.
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- I'm Jewish, and I
know what a dybbuk is.
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It's they type of a
thing that you use
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to scare little kids.
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- Just pure evil.
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- Say, "hi" to our new roommate.
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[Rattling]
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[Screaming]
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- All of a sudden,
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something's
tearing inside of me.
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- Jason?
[Knocks on door]
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[Sobbing]
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[Loud popping]
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- [Screams]
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- Don't do that, or
the dybbuk will come.
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[Bells ringing]
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My shop is located
in downtown Portland
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right at the base of
the burnside bridge,
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which is kind of the
gateway to the city.
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What I was looking for
were small, unique items
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that I could sell,
I could retail,
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and the best place
to find those anytime
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is at yard sales, garage
sales, and estate sales,
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small auctions.
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- Hi.
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- So on this particular day,
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the family was selling
items that had belonged
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to the grandmother
who had passed away
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who was a holocaust survivor
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and who had died
at a ripe old age.
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I believe it was 103.
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They were selling
things in job lots
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that had all been
grouped together
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on these pallets.
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But there was one
pallet in particular
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that I was interested in.
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- Our next lot, 29, is
a unique box lot here.
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All righty, how about...
Would you go $5, sir?
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Thank you. Now $7.50.
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$7.50 and $10. $10, friend.
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$10, now $12.50. Now
we're gonna go $15.
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- I think it got to
about 27 or 28 bucks
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before finally, people got tired
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and realized that I was
going to get that pallet.
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- Over to there, 7 and 8?
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Sold $27. Number 35, thank you.
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- I was really happy,
because I had got
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several hundred dollars worth
of items that I really needed.
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But along with those
items, there were three items
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that were unusual to be
included in a lot like this.
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One of them was a steamer trunk.
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The other one was a sewing box.
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And the final item
was a cabinet of sorts,
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a small wine cabinet.
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And a voice said...
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Both: I see you
bought the dybbuk box.
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- Dybbuk box?
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- The young lady being
in her late 20s, early 30s.
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It didn't immediately register
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that she had used
the word "dybbuk."
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I'm Jewish, and I
know what a dybbuk is.
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It's the type of a
thing that you use
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to scare little kids.
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You'd say, "don't do that,
or the dybbuk will come."
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- It's what my
grandmother called it.
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- And she explained to
me that whenever anybody
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would ask about it,
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grandmother would spit
through her fingers three times
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[makes spitting sound]
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And say it was
never to be opened.
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When she told me this,
it really didn't phase me
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as being anything
that was all that special.
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So I loaded up the
stuff that I had bought,
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and away I went.
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All in all, it was a good day.
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So I drove back to my shop.
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It was a small storefront,
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perhaps 25 feet wide,
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and the basement down
below was quite a bit larger.
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It was probably 4,000,
4,500 square feet.
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The way the box was locked
was that there was a brass hasp
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with a small brass
padlock placed on it.
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So instead of
cutting the lock off,
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which I normally
would have done,
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I took a small screwdriver
and sort of bent the hasp
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or the metal part that
came down and held it.
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[Rattling]
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The doors opened.
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I didn't expect that.
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It must have had a mechanism.
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It was a nice touch to a box
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that really didn't
look like it deserved
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that kind of detail.
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There were quite a
few items on the inside
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that really didn't make
a lot of sense to me.
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There were two
pennies from the 1920s,
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a candlestick, kind of a
fat, pear-shaped body,
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a small chalice or wine goblet.
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There was also a statue.
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It was made out of granite,
different pieces of granite,
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and it had carved into it
the word "shalom" in Hebrew.
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And then there were
two locks of hair.
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- Hair?
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- What crossed my mind
was that this was an old lady
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who had kept it for
some sentimental reason,
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not giving it any more thought
than I would normally give
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a small, little wine cabinet.
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I had a young lady that
worked for me at that time
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named Jane who was
absolutely a fantastic salesperson.
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So on this particular day,
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I left her in
charge of the shop,
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left the box in the basement...
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[Bells ringing]
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And went about my business
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taking care of some errands.
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- I was down in the
back of the basement
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and kind of cleaning things up
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and organizing his
tools and everything,
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and then I was gonna
go up and open the store.
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All of a sudden, I
just... I kind of felt
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like somebody was watching me.
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I had been left there
alone several times,
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and I could walk in the dark
and down through the basement
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and spend hours down there
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and never felt
anything until then.
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There's a difference between
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being afraid of
someone or something.
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[Phone ringing]
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I had gotten a phone call.
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- Addy's market. Jane speaking.
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- And it was a friend of mine.
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- Oh, hey. Hey, Geneva.
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Yeah, no, you can come
tomorrow. That's fine.
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I'll just tell Kevin.
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Yeah, I know. That's fine.
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Yeah, when are you
planning to come in?
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Okay. [Stick clatters]
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Hey, um, I got to go.
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- I had that feeling
inside, inside my gut
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that something was wrong.
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- Hello?
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[Clattering]
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Who's there?
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Hello?
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We're not opened yet.
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- And when I turned around,
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the light that I
had switched off
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turned back on.
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[Glass shattering]
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It was glass breaking.
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Just like... [Imitates
glass shattering]
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It was very loud.
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[Glass crunches]
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- Oh, my god.
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[Gasps]
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Oh, my god.
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- I went, and I
grabbed the phone.
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I called Kevin.
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- [Sighs]
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[Phone beeping]
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Kevin, pick up. Kevin, pick up.
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Kevin, pick up. [Phone ringing]
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Kevin, pick up the phone.
Kevin, pick up the phone.
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Kevin, pick up. Kevin, pick up.
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[Phone vibrating]
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Kevin, pick up. Kevin, pick up.
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- Hello?
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- Kevin?
- Jane?
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- [Speaking indistinctly]
- I can barely hear you.
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- Someone's here.
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- Somebody's in the store?
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[Glass shattering]
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- I was young.
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I'm like, "when are you
gonna get back here?"
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To me, it sounded like
it was a baseball bat
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smashing things.
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- Hysterical is the
only way to put it.
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She was trying to tell me
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that there was somebody
in the basement...
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- Something's here, Kevin.
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- That sounded like
they were breaking glass.
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They were throwing
things around.
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I said, "well,
who's down there?"
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And she said,
"nobody's down there."
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- Jane, okay...
- [Shouting indistinctly]
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- Call the police.
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Call the police immediately.
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Jane.
- And as I said that...
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- Jane!
- My phone died.
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[Engine revs]
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- Kevin! Kevin!
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- And I was scared
to death for her.
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Could have been someone
that really had some bad intent,
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either to steal something
or to harm or to Rob.
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It couldn't be good.
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- [Screams]
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[Glass shattering]
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[Clattering]
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[Screaming]
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[Sobbing]
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[Screams]
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- Jane?
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Jane.
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- I approached the
back of the shop.
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I didn't know what to expect.
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So I went to the basement door,
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and I noticed that
the wrought-iron gate
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was locked, which was odd,
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because I hadn't locked it.
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- Jane, it's Kevin.
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- I went to turn on
the lights at that point.
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I flipped the switch, and
the lights wouldn't go on.
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So I grabbed a flashlight
and took a look around.
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[Glass clatters]
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And it was then that I noticed
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that all the lightbulbs
in the basement
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had been broken.
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There were ten four-foot
fluorescent fixtures.
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All of them had been broken
out and were lying on the ground.
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- Oh.
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- Jane isn't the kind
of person who cries.
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Well, literally, she said...
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- [Bleep] You.
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- [Stammers]
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- I just had this
feeling that I had to go.
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- Jane?
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- I just left, and I
never came back.
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- There is no exit.
There is no way out.
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There's no crawl space.
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There's nowhere
for anyone to go.
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Whoever had done
this had to still be there,
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because I had just
unlocked the gate.
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There was no way out.
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I had to think at that
time that it was Jane.
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I had to think that,
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because there is
no other explanation,
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and there was nobody else there.
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So it was her, and I
was sorry I upset her,
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but there could be
no other explanation.
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So my mom's birthday
is on October 28th,
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and we were gonna go have
lunch and do something else.
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And on that day, she came
down to the shop quite early
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before I was open.
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- Happy birthday, mom.
- Oh, darling.
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- There was a small,
little display area
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of some furniture,
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and so she sat down.
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- And he said, "this is an
unusual present for you."
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- In the past, I have
gotten strange gifts,
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not a wine cabinet, but,
you know, strange gifts.
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My husband used
to give me plaid coats
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every single birthday.
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He knew I hated plaid and
that I would return the coat
260
00:12:59,946 --> 00:13:02,246
and get something that I liked.
261
00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:04,315
- Kevin, there's a call for you.
- Okay.
262
00:13:04,317 --> 00:13:07,987
- When he went downstairs,
I looked at the box,
263
00:13:08,054 --> 00:13:14,564
and it was as though the
box was looking back at me.
264
00:13:19,632 --> 00:13:20,702
- Kevin speaking.
265
00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:40,845
Yup. No, we still have it.
266
00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:52,496
[Rattling]
267
00:13:52,565 --> 00:13:55,325
- The doors opened,
and it was just like
268
00:13:55,401 --> 00:13:58,901
a cold breeze coming out.
269
00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:03,110
I can't describe it,
270
00:14:03,175 --> 00:14:06,975
just pure evil.
271
00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:09,546
I couldn't run away.
I couldn't get up.
272
00:14:09,615 --> 00:14:14,045
I couldn't get away from it.
273
00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,160
I knew I was having a stroke.
274
00:14:18,224 --> 00:14:22,064
My mouth contorted,
275
00:14:22,128 --> 00:14:26,658
just started to sag,
and my eye pocketed.
276
00:14:29,135 --> 00:14:31,365
- Mrs. Mannis?
277
00:14:31,437 --> 00:14:33,067
Kevin?
278
00:14:33,139 --> 00:14:35,939
- "Am I gonna make it?
279
00:14:36,008 --> 00:14:38,638
Is this death?"
280
00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:41,681
And my thought was,
"Kevin is downstairs.
281
00:14:41,747 --> 00:14:45,847
"Am I gonna die
before I see my son?
282
00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:47,748
Is he gonna know?"
283
00:14:50,923 --> 00:14:53,393
"Am I gonna make it?"
284
00:14:56,495 --> 00:14:57,525
- Mom.
285
00:14:57,596 --> 00:15:01,026
- I was frozen.
286
00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:05,140
I couldn't leave.
287
00:15:05,138 --> 00:15:07,408
- Okay, they're here now.
288
00:15:07,473 --> 00:15:08,813
- It was only me
that could tell,
289
00:15:08,874 --> 00:15:11,784
because she didn't
have enough ability
290
00:15:11,844 --> 00:15:13,284
to express herself,
291
00:15:13,346 --> 00:15:15,806
but you could see
the terror in her eyes.
292
00:15:15,882 --> 00:15:17,022
- And I wanted to...
293
00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:19,483
I had to communicate to him
294
00:15:19,552 --> 00:15:22,822
to protect him,
295
00:15:22,889 --> 00:15:26,889
and it was almost
impossible to do.
296
00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:30,129
When you're having a
stroke, you can't write.
297
00:15:30,130 --> 00:15:32,930
You can't talk.
298
00:15:32,933 --> 00:15:34,703
- All the communication
was through her eyes,
299
00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:36,237
and so her eyes were
kind of wandering,
300
00:15:36,268 --> 00:15:37,338
and yet, you could tell.
301
00:15:37,403 --> 00:15:40,143
You could tell that
she was pleading
302
00:15:40,206 --> 00:15:43,006
to get something
out, to say something.
303
00:15:43,075 --> 00:15:45,735
- The one thing
that I wanted to do
304
00:15:45,811 --> 00:15:48,781
was to impress upon him
305
00:15:48,848 --> 00:15:51,118
how important it was
306
00:15:51,184 --> 00:15:53,794
that he get rid of the box.
307
00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:15,235
- God forbid
308
00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:19,038
it did anything to him.
309
00:16:19,111 --> 00:16:21,481
If it gave me a stroke,
310
00:16:21,547 --> 00:16:24,777
what would it do to him?
311
00:16:24,850 --> 00:16:26,720
I probably should
have picked a better gift,
312
00:16:26,786 --> 00:16:29,316
maybe taken a little bit
more time in choosing it.
313
00:16:29,388 --> 00:16:31,228
It never crossed my mind
that it would be anything
314
00:16:31,257 --> 00:16:33,687
other than what it
was: A small box.
315
00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,659
- I knew that it was
something that was evil,
316
00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:44,270
because I had felt
the coldness inside.
317
00:16:47,139 --> 00:16:49,739
- Everything started
to fall into place now,
318
00:16:49,809 --> 00:16:51,219
all hell breaking
loose with the shop,
319
00:16:51,244 --> 00:16:53,514
with my mom having the stroke.
320
00:16:53,579 --> 00:16:55,509
The common denominator
of all these things
321
00:16:55,581 --> 00:16:57,011
was this box.
322
00:16:57,083 --> 00:17:00,123
So I decided to try and sell it.
323
00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:01,846
And a few days later,
324
00:17:01,921 --> 00:17:05,391
an older couple came
in and purchased it
325
00:17:05,392 --> 00:17:07,332
and didn't think
anything about it.
326
00:17:07,393 --> 00:17:08,493
Glad to see it gone.
327
00:17:08,561 --> 00:17:09,841
I got more stuff
to do than that.
328
00:17:15,168 --> 00:17:18,368
And I find the box
sitting by the front door
329
00:17:18,437 --> 00:17:20,907
with a note on it.
330
00:17:20,973 --> 00:17:23,043
And the note read,
331
00:17:23,109 --> 00:17:27,679
"this has an odd
darkness about it."
332
00:17:27,746 --> 00:17:29,846
This is hard to get rid of.
333
00:17:29,915 --> 00:17:32,575
Nobody seems to like it.
334
00:17:32,651 --> 00:17:34,721
I had a storage unit
out in back of my house
335
00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:37,017
that I decided I
would put it there
336
00:17:37,089 --> 00:17:38,319
and hopefully forget about it
337
00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:42,490
until I could figure
out what to do with it.
338
00:17:42,561 --> 00:17:48,071
I started to have
dreams, terrible dreams.
339
00:17:48,134 --> 00:17:52,644
I would be with somebody
who I knew and I trusted.
340
00:17:52,705 --> 00:17:54,305
I would be in a
very pleasant setting
341
00:17:54,373 --> 00:17:56,873
with this person, and
we would be walking.
342
00:17:56,942 --> 00:18:00,742
And at that point, immediately,
343
00:18:00,813 --> 00:18:02,053
whoever I was with in the dream
344
00:18:02,114 --> 00:18:05,984
would change from that person
345
00:18:06,051 --> 00:18:11,991
into the most gruesome,
horrible, evil-looking hag
346
00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:14,228
I'd ever seen.
347
00:18:14,293 --> 00:18:16,963
And that hag would proceed
348
00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:19,659
to just beat the
living crap out of me.
349
00:18:19,732 --> 00:18:22,532
- [Screaming]
350
00:18:22,601 --> 00:18:25,471
- [Sighs]
351
00:18:25,538 --> 00:18:28,108
- When I woke up,
352
00:18:28,174 --> 00:18:30,144
I know that this
sounds unbelievable,
353
00:18:30,143 --> 00:18:32,443
because I didn't
believe it myself.
354
00:18:40,052 --> 00:18:42,252
I found bruises.
355
00:18:42,321 --> 00:18:44,201
Something is happening
where I'm getting injured
356
00:18:44,223 --> 00:18:47,763
in the night.
357
00:18:47,826 --> 00:18:49,986
And it got to the point
where every single night,
358
00:18:50,062 --> 00:18:51,902
I knew that I would
be having this dream.
359
00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:54,634
No matter what I thought
of, no matter how I tried,
360
00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:56,700
this was going to happen.
361
00:18:56,769 --> 00:19:01,939
At that moment, I knew
that the box was cursed,
362
00:19:02,007 --> 00:19:04,277
that there was something
wrong with that box.
363
00:19:07,113 --> 00:19:10,253
But I decided I
had to get rid of it,
364
00:19:10,316 --> 00:19:11,946
and it turns out
the quickest way
365
00:19:12,018 --> 00:19:14,418
to be rid of it would
be to put it on eBay.
366
00:19:14,486 --> 00:19:15,986
[Camera clicking]
367
00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:17,415
And it called it
"the dybbuk box"
368
00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:18,819
in the main heading
369
00:19:18,891 --> 00:19:19,961
and then described it
370
00:19:20,025 --> 00:19:22,325
as a haunted
Jewish wine cabinet.
371
00:19:22,394 --> 00:19:24,204
And I certainly
wasn't going to sell it
372
00:19:24,197 --> 00:19:25,927
without disclosing everything
373
00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:29,368
that I thought had
been happening.
374
00:19:29,435 --> 00:19:32,735
My hope was that somebody
who dealt with the occult
375
00:19:32,805 --> 00:19:34,065
would see this and buy it
376
00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:36,640
and dispose of it the
way that they knew
377
00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:38,909
it should be disposed of.
378
00:19:48,154 --> 00:19:49,864
- When I first learned
about the dybbuk box,
379
00:19:49,888 --> 00:19:51,468
I was a student at
Truman state university
380
00:19:51,490 --> 00:19:55,190
in kirksville, Missouri.
381
00:19:55,261 --> 00:19:58,061
- What are you looking at?
- EBay.
382
00:19:58,130 --> 00:20:00,500
- My roommate Sam
had seen this posting
383
00:20:00,566 --> 00:20:02,796
for this haunted box.
384
00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:04,738
- What is that?
385
00:20:04,803 --> 00:20:06,903
- The dybbuk box.
386
00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:09,506
- And he was telling
me about how the owner
387
00:20:09,575 --> 00:20:12,835
was experiencing very
terrible nightmares...
388
00:20:12,911 --> 00:20:14,251
- "Haunted"?
- Mm-hmm.
389
00:20:14,247 --> 00:20:17,717
- How his mother, I believe,
had become really sick.
390
00:20:17,783 --> 00:20:19,523
It was this really
long description
391
00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:22,185
of what had transpired,
392
00:20:22,254 --> 00:20:24,224
and it really captured
our imagination.
393
00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:27,690
- You want in? Come on.
394
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,530
Really?
- I'm okay.
395
00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:34,026
- All right.
396
00:20:34,099 --> 00:20:35,509
- I didn't really want
to spend money
397
00:20:35,534 --> 00:20:37,234
on something that
could be a hoax,
398
00:20:37,303 --> 00:20:38,943
and that was
really the end of it.
399
00:20:38,938 --> 00:20:41,038
We didn't really talk
about it after that at all.
400
00:20:44,109 --> 00:20:46,509
- During the course of the week,
401
00:20:46,578 --> 00:20:47,908
it finally got up to a number
402
00:20:47,980 --> 00:20:51,050
of about 7,500 people
that had seen this,
403
00:20:51,116 --> 00:20:52,516
and I've sold a
lot of stuff on eBay
404
00:20:52,551 --> 00:20:54,001
and never had that
kind of a response,
405
00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:56,149
so I thought, "maybe
there are a lot of people
406
00:20:56,221 --> 00:20:57,761
involved in the occult."
407
00:20:57,823 --> 00:20:59,123
7,500 is a lot of people
408
00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:01,961
to watch a little
wine cabinet sell.
409
00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:12,568
- About three weeks
later in the middle of June,
410
00:21:12,638 --> 00:21:15,308
I had come home for lunch,
411
00:21:15,374 --> 00:21:17,984
and I opened up our front door,
412
00:21:17,977 --> 00:21:19,737
which entered
into our living room,
413
00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:21,052
and I was instantly hit
414
00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:24,523
by this overwhelming
stench of urine.
415
00:21:24,583 --> 00:21:27,083
There was newspaper
and packing peanuts
416
00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:29,186
strewn throughout...
All over our floor,
417
00:21:29,255 --> 00:21:31,085
and my instant thoughts were,
418
00:21:31,157 --> 00:21:32,457
"who made this mess,
419
00:21:32,524 --> 00:21:35,864
and where did somebody
urinate in my living room?"
420
00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:43,397
And it was just sitting
there staring at me
421
00:21:43,469 --> 00:21:45,939
and me staring at it,
422
00:21:46,004 --> 00:21:48,544
and I was thinking, "I
can't believe he bought it."
423
00:21:48,607 --> 00:21:53,007
- Say hi to our new roommate.
424
00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:55,809
- After I got over that initial
shock that he bought it,
425
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:58,015
I laughed, 'cause
I couldn't believe
426
00:21:58,083 --> 00:22:00,653
he spent his money on this.
427
00:22:00,719 --> 00:22:02,949
Once, though, the dybbuk
box was in my house,
428
00:22:03,021 --> 00:22:04,831
I really wanted to go into
this with an open mind.
429
00:22:04,857 --> 00:22:07,057
I didn't want to
think that this thing
430
00:22:07,126 --> 00:22:09,726
was actually haunted.
431
00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:12,725
- Well, what are we
gonna do with this?
432
00:22:12,798 --> 00:22:14,198
- And he said...
433
00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:16,926
- I'm gonna sleep with it.
434
00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:18,482
- Well, I think Sam
was really curious.
435
00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:21,444
If there was any spirit
trapped in the box,
436
00:22:21,507 --> 00:22:23,407
maybe antagonize
it a little bit saying,
437
00:22:23,475 --> 00:22:25,805
"are you gonna
come out and play?"
438
00:22:25,878 --> 00:22:29,008
- Ooh!
439
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:42,261
[Ominous piano music]
440
00:22:42,327 --> 00:22:50,027
♪ ♪
441
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:02,809
[Indistinct chatter]
442
00:23:04,416 --> 00:23:07,416
- It had a very prominent
spot in the living room.
443
00:23:07,486 --> 00:23:09,386
We didn't ever hide the box.
444
00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:12,455
- Yeah, I bought it on eBay
for, like, really cheap too
445
00:23:12,524 --> 00:23:13,424
for an antique.
446
00:23:13,492 --> 00:23:15,462
It was only 140 bucks.
447
00:23:15,461 --> 00:23:18,931
- Once everybody got done
checking out the dybbuk box,
448
00:23:18,997 --> 00:23:21,267
we would say just
kind of off-the-cuff,
449
00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:22,773
"by the way, this is cursed,
450
00:23:22,835 --> 00:23:26,465
"and you might have nightmares
for the rest of the semester
451
00:23:26,538 --> 00:23:27,838
or possibly your life."
452
00:23:27,906 --> 00:23:28,806
- Yo, guys.
453
00:23:28,874 --> 00:23:30,574
- It was a big novelty,
454
00:23:30,642 --> 00:23:33,112
and people were
kind of laughing around
455
00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:34,209
and joking around.
456
00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:38,519
- Time has come to open the box.
457
00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:42,494
- Some of the girls got
quite upset and disturbed
458
00:23:42,488 --> 00:23:45,988
by the fact that this was a
potentially haunted artifact.
459
00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:48,558
All: Ooh.
460
00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:54,333
[Rattling]
461
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,570
- [Screams]
- Whoa.
462
00:23:57,636 --> 00:23:58,736
- [Laughs]
463
00:23:58,804 --> 00:23:59,774
[All laugh]
464
00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:01,212
Come on, it's funny.
465
00:24:01,273 --> 00:24:03,313
- She got upset that her
hand was put in the box,
466
00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:05,405
that she potentially
exposed herself
467
00:24:05,477 --> 00:24:07,577
to this possessed spirit.
468
00:24:07,646 --> 00:24:09,706
She was definitely freaked out,
469
00:24:09,781 --> 00:24:14,251
and she was concerned
for her safety and ours.
470
00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:15,853
But we were just having fun.
471
00:24:15,921 --> 00:24:20,121
We were just having
pranks on people.
472
00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:23,392
But there came a
point whenever...
473
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,702
We realized that things
were about to change.
474
00:24:25,764 --> 00:24:27,904
- Hey, what's up?
- Oh, you know...
475
00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:32,896
- we experienced some really
unusual things with electronics.
476
00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:34,912
- How was last night?
477
00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:36,773
- Oh, you know...
478
00:24:36,776 --> 00:24:38,476
- studying the... [Loud popping]
479
00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:39,878
Whoa! Jeez!
480
00:24:39,945 --> 00:24:41,445
- Whoa.
481
00:24:41,513 --> 00:24:44,583
Okay, this is...
- What the hell, man?
482
00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:46,684
- What the hell just happened?
483
00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:53,161
- He was telling me that
his laptop just crashed.
484
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,030
- Whoa.
485
00:24:56,028 --> 00:24:58,398
- It was a critical failure
with the hard drive.
486
00:25:08,006 --> 00:25:10,836
Well, I woke up one morning
487
00:25:10,909 --> 00:25:12,739
and was getting ready to go,
488
00:25:12,811 --> 00:25:14,521
and one of my roommates
came out of his bedroom,
489
00:25:14,546 --> 00:25:15,676
which was next to mine,
490
00:25:15,747 --> 00:25:17,847
and he looked awful.
491
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:24,420
His eyes were all bloodshot,
bloody... almost... looking,
492
00:25:24,423 --> 00:25:26,723
and it looked
really, really bad.
493
00:25:32,131 --> 00:25:35,231
[Insects buzzing]
494
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:38,270
And then there was these
bugs that were crawling all over.
495
00:25:38,271 --> 00:25:39,771
We found them
in our living room.
496
00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:43,708
They were crawling up
the walls in our bedroom.
497
00:25:43,775 --> 00:25:46,735
They were in our kitchen
and our bathrooms.
498
00:25:46,812 --> 00:25:48,862
They would be in the sink,
or they would be on the walls
499
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,290
or in the mirror
or around the toilet
500
00:25:50,315 --> 00:25:51,645
or wherever it may be.
501
00:25:51,717 --> 00:25:54,547
They got into everywhere.
502
00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:57,190
Over the summer
and into the fall,
503
00:25:57,255 --> 00:25:59,255
Sam started to become
a little bit more reclusive.
504
00:25:59,258 --> 00:26:01,688
So we got to see
him less and less.
505
00:26:22,881 --> 00:26:25,081
I felt really bad for Sam.
506
00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:28,220
I felt that there was despair
507
00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:31,790
and that he was really just done
508
00:26:31,857 --> 00:26:34,587
and hopefully that
getting rid of the box
509
00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:38,900
would be a turning point for him
where he could start to recover.
510
00:26:41,967 --> 00:26:43,897
- I'm the director in
a medical museum.
511
00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:45,799
I've always had
a love of history
512
00:26:45,871 --> 00:26:48,171
and the artifacts that
tell the stories of history,
513
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,810
so we're always looking
at objects as puzzles
514
00:26:50,876 --> 00:26:52,906
to be unraveled.
515
00:26:52,978 --> 00:26:56,948
Sam was keeping
online in a personal blog
516
00:26:57,015 --> 00:26:59,475
all the things that
had happened to him.
517
00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:01,991
So I could actually
follow week-by-week
518
00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:03,054
all of the things
519
00:27:03,121 --> 00:27:05,521
that were going
on with this box.
520
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:07,690
If I could get this box,
521
00:27:07,693 --> 00:27:10,333
I could rationalize
pretty much through
522
00:27:10,395 --> 00:27:12,525
what I would consider
a scientific basis,
523
00:27:12,598 --> 00:27:15,228
is it what it was
supposed to be?
524
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,100
Looking back at
the words he wrote,
525
00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:18,329
there was a warning
526
00:27:18,404 --> 00:27:20,244
that I probably
should have heeded
527
00:27:20,305 --> 00:27:23,465
and I didn't.
528
00:27:23,542 --> 00:27:26,442
- When Sam listed the
dybbuk box on eBay,
529
00:27:26,511 --> 00:27:27,981
I followed the sale.
530
00:27:28,046 --> 00:27:30,146
- No bid had been taken place,
531
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:33,649
so I just threw in a bid
of... I think it was 50 bucks.
532
00:27:33,719 --> 00:27:35,489
- You could see the bid price
533
00:27:35,554 --> 00:27:38,294
jumping up by
different dollar amounts.
534
00:27:38,356 --> 00:27:39,986
It would start off with $30,
535
00:27:40,058 --> 00:27:42,958
and then it jumped to
$45, and then maybe $50.
536
00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:45,302
- The difference was, I had
now made the commitment
537
00:27:45,363 --> 00:27:47,333
that not only would I bid,
538
00:27:47,399 --> 00:27:49,129
I would buy this box.
539
00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:51,231
- All of a sudden, it
would be a large jump,
540
00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:53,173
and it would go up to $108
541
00:27:53,238 --> 00:27:55,808
and then $150 and then $200.
542
00:27:55,874 --> 00:27:58,384
- When Sam had
bought it, he'd spent $140,
543
00:27:58,443 --> 00:28:02,113
and so I put in
a bid for double.
544
00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:03,460
- Finally, within
the last second,
545
00:28:03,482 --> 00:28:06,982
it jumped to $280.
546
00:28:06,986 --> 00:28:08,586
- Yes!
547
00:28:08,653 --> 00:28:10,323
- Basically, I won the bid,
548
00:28:10,388 --> 00:28:12,588
and so I was very excited
549
00:28:12,658 --> 00:28:16,828
once I knew the dybbuk
box could not escape me.
550
00:28:16,895 --> 00:28:19,655
- I was taken back
by it at first, thinking,
551
00:28:19,731 --> 00:28:21,581
"well, why would someone
spend that kind of money
552
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,370
on something that would
potentially ruin their lives?"
553
00:28:33,612 --> 00:28:34,812
- So that night, I decided
554
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,310
to actually examine
the dybbuk box.
555
00:28:37,382 --> 00:28:38,522
It was dark.
556
00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:40,677
Everything was closed
down on campus,
557
00:28:40,752 --> 00:28:43,152
and I'd had to unlock
and go through,
558
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:45,221
and all of the
minimal lights were on.
559
00:28:49,094 --> 00:28:50,434
I was already aware
560
00:28:50,495 --> 00:28:54,655
that both Kevin's family
and the college students
561
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,333
had had spontaneous illnesses
562
00:28:57,402 --> 00:28:59,642
and what appeared
to be, like, infections.
563
00:29:02,808 --> 00:29:04,978
It seemed good practice
564
00:29:05,043 --> 00:29:06,813
to put on the white gloves
565
00:29:06,878 --> 00:29:09,648
to basically examine this item
566
00:29:09,714 --> 00:29:14,254
just in case there
are any contaminants.
567
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:15,653
So I dimmed the lights
568
00:29:15,721 --> 00:29:19,021
and turned on the black light.
569
00:29:19,090 --> 00:29:20,820
There was a little bit of glow.
570
00:29:20,892 --> 00:29:22,862
It was wax,
571
00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:24,428
but it did indicate to me
572
00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:26,626
that someone had lit a candle,
573
00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:28,998
and it had dripped on
the outside of the box.
574
00:29:29,067 --> 00:29:30,597
It made me think,
575
00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:33,439
"this actually could
have been used ritually."
576
00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:39,035
So the next thing was to see
what was contained inside.
577
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:42,810
The moment just
before opening the doors,
578
00:29:42,881 --> 00:29:45,551
I kind of just wondered
what would happen.
579
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:49,119
[Rattling]
580
00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:14,141
[Rattling]
581
00:30:15,914 --> 00:30:17,614
- Like, I guess I
kind of expected
582
00:30:17,682 --> 00:30:19,852
that if this thing
really was haunted,
583
00:30:19,852 --> 00:30:21,482
it would happen immediately,
584
00:30:21,553 --> 00:30:23,353
and so in opening it up
585
00:30:23,355 --> 00:30:24,755
and seeing all
these other pieces...
586
00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:27,260
And yet, the stillness,
587
00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:30,885
there was no strange
things happening.
588
00:30:30,962 --> 00:30:32,302
It was like, "okay,
589
00:30:32,364 --> 00:30:36,674
well, maybe it's just
a historical piece."
590
00:30:36,735 --> 00:30:39,835
But I didn't realize
how wrong I was
591
00:30:39,905 --> 00:30:42,035
and what was yet to come.
592
00:30:44,542 --> 00:30:47,942
Within days of it
being in the museum,
593
00:30:47,947 --> 00:30:50,647
the computers were crashing.
594
00:30:50,715 --> 00:30:53,575
- Yes, I've tried turning
the computer on and off.
595
00:30:53,652 --> 00:30:56,322
- We were losing
valuable information,
596
00:30:56,388 --> 00:30:57,588
weeks of work.
597
00:30:57,656 --> 00:30:59,156
- Yeah, well, my
colleague's going
598
00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:01,324
through the exact
same thing right now.
599
00:31:01,393 --> 00:31:02,403
- And then the lightbulbs.
600
00:31:02,427 --> 00:31:03,287
[Popping]
601
00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:05,462
And what was odd about it,
602
00:31:05,464 --> 00:31:08,334
it was the bulbs all around
where the dybbuk box...
603
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,900
Where they were all going out.
604
00:31:10,969 --> 00:31:13,299
And just... then things
seemed to get a whole lot worse.
605
00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:15,151
- Okay, well, I guess
we've explored every option
606
00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:16,473
from "a" to "z."
607
00:31:16,541 --> 00:31:20,511
- The staff felt a
depletion of energy, illness.
608
00:31:20,578 --> 00:31:24,448
They made it clear
that this artifact
609
00:31:24,516 --> 00:31:26,476
was an unwelcome guest.
610
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,131
- Listen, I'm losing
my whole office here.
611
00:31:28,153 --> 00:31:29,323
I got to go.
612
00:31:29,387 --> 00:31:30,527
- And then I knew
I had to take it out
613
00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:31,485
of the museum.
614
00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:32,556
I had no choice.
615
00:31:38,296 --> 00:31:40,956
I have a lockable
back part of my truck,
616
00:31:41,032 --> 00:31:44,572
and it was secured in there.
617
00:31:44,636 --> 00:31:46,596
But just driving home,
you know, I just felt
618
00:31:46,672 --> 00:31:48,042
that I was forced
against the wall.
619
00:31:48,106 --> 00:31:50,306
I really didn't want
to take it home,
620
00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:54,535
but I thought I had no option.
621
00:31:54,612 --> 00:31:58,522
And that night was
completely restless.
622
00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:04,893
I kept having dreams of
these sunken-eyed old women,
623
00:32:04,956 --> 00:32:07,156
and then their
face would literally
624
00:32:07,225 --> 00:32:13,025
just dissolve into the
most ghastly injuries
625
00:32:13,098 --> 00:32:16,098
as if the flesh was
being torn and ripped.
626
00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:22,311
I'd wake from these in shock
627
00:32:22,374 --> 00:32:23,514
only to go back into sleep,
628
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:25,139
and it started all over again,
629
00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:29,050
the same women
with gray, flyaway hair
630
00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:30,514
and sunken eyes,
631
00:32:30,582 --> 00:32:33,022
and it just happened
all night long.
632
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,850
- [Screaming]
633
00:32:35,921 --> 00:32:38,721
- [Panting]
634
00:32:40,225 --> 00:32:42,485
[Groans]
635
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,190
- When I woke that morning,
636
00:32:44,262 --> 00:32:46,932
I was just glad just to be up.
637
00:32:54,672 --> 00:32:55,912
- [Sighs]
638
00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:57,744
[Breathes heavily]
639
00:33:01,346 --> 00:33:02,576
- And I was thinking,
640
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:05,347
"could I have done
this to myself?"
641
00:33:16,461 --> 00:33:18,091
- What's wrong with your eyes?
642
00:33:18,163 --> 00:33:21,063
- I don't know.
643
00:33:21,132 --> 00:33:23,572
- Things in my life
had gotten really bad.
644
00:33:23,635 --> 00:33:25,535
I mean, things had
gotten really bad.
645
00:33:25,603 --> 00:33:29,713
Health issues, family
concerned and upset.
646
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:36,082
It wasn't long after umm
that my son and I were...
647
00:33:36,147 --> 00:33:37,977
It was an evening hour together
648
00:33:38,049 --> 00:33:39,919
down in where the TV was on.
649
00:33:46,825 --> 00:33:49,825
And all of a sudden,
he calls over to me...
650
00:33:49,895 --> 00:33:51,995
- [Whispering] Dad.
651
00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:55,802
Dad.
- Yeah, buddy?
652
00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:57,797
- What is it?
653
00:33:57,803 --> 00:33:58,943
- What?
654
00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:00,244
- Look.
655
00:34:07,445 --> 00:34:09,475
- It looked like flames,
656
00:34:09,547 --> 00:34:11,547
this black mass,
657
00:34:11,616 --> 00:34:14,346
and he's looking and
going, "what is that?"
658
00:34:14,353 --> 00:34:18,863
And I see the true
fear in my son's eyes.
659
00:34:18,923 --> 00:34:21,123
I was worried about my family.
660
00:34:21,192 --> 00:34:24,032
Now it's taking over my life.
661
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,700
I'd explored the
scientific side,
662
00:34:30,768 --> 00:34:32,068
and there was no explanation
663
00:34:32,137 --> 00:34:34,067
for what was
going on in science,
664
00:34:34,073 --> 00:34:35,143
not to me.
665
00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:41,184
I was thinking, if this box
666
00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:43,350
truly had something
trapped in it
667
00:34:43,414 --> 00:34:45,124
and I'd released it
668
00:34:45,183 --> 00:34:47,553
that I needed to do something
669
00:34:47,619 --> 00:34:50,289
to seal it again.
670
00:34:50,355 --> 00:34:54,515
We have this rental
property that had a cellar.
671
00:34:54,593 --> 00:34:57,363
It wasn't being used,
and so I decided
672
00:34:57,428 --> 00:35:00,798
that I would take the
dybbuk box over there,
673
00:35:00,865 --> 00:35:04,195
and that is where I felt
would be the best place
674
00:35:04,269 --> 00:35:07,469
to isolate the box.
675
00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:10,909
As I'm finishing
up this process,
676
00:35:10,975 --> 00:35:16,145
the sound as if wind is
building in the space...
677
00:35:16,214 --> 00:35:18,184
[Clattering]
678
00:35:18,249 --> 00:35:21,119
And yet there is nothing
that could create this.
679
00:35:21,186 --> 00:35:23,916
We're completely entombed.
680
00:35:23,988 --> 00:35:26,018
[Wind rushing]
681
00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:29,930
Then I locked the
door to the basement.
682
00:35:29,994 --> 00:35:31,234
Then I was done with it.
683
00:35:31,230 --> 00:35:32,660
It was gone.
684
00:35:37,202 --> 00:35:38,702
[Rattling]
685
00:35:40,939 --> 00:35:43,439
- [Sighs]
686
00:35:43,508 --> 00:35:45,738
- I now needed to finish it,
687
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:48,280
which was to wash myself free
688
00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:51,776
of any attachment of
anything that was connected
689
00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:55,423
to me being in the
presence of this evil.
690
00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:59,286
The steam and the heat,
691
00:35:59,357 --> 00:36:00,487
it's invigorating.
692
00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:02,762
It's really powerful.
693
00:36:13,671 --> 00:36:14,671
- Jason?
694
00:36:42,968 --> 00:36:44,228
- All of a sudden,
695
00:36:44,302 --> 00:36:46,802
something's
tearing inside of me.
696
00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:50,871
- Jason?
697
00:36:50,942 --> 00:36:52,682
- And then it just comes out,
698
00:36:52,744 --> 00:36:55,354
this gelluous mucus.
699
00:36:55,413 --> 00:36:58,053
- [Coughing]
700
00:36:58,116 --> 00:37:00,216
- Something I've never
had out of my body
701
00:37:00,285 --> 00:37:03,585
was in my hands.
702
00:37:03,655 --> 00:37:05,255
- [Gagging]
703
00:37:05,323 --> 00:37:07,793
- There's no way to explain it.
704
00:37:07,793 --> 00:37:11,333
It just happened,
and I was in disbelief.
705
00:37:11,396 --> 00:37:12,656
- Jason?
706
00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:15,064
- Yet I also knew that
something came out of me.
707
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:16,503
- Jason?
- What?
708
00:37:16,567 --> 00:37:18,597
- Open the door.
709
00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:20,350
I got to show you
something. You got to see this.
710
00:37:20,371 --> 00:37:21,701
- Okay.
711
00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,653
- And outside the door, I
hear my wife yelling to me
712
00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:27,135
about something about
poison Ivy and jeans.
713
00:37:27,211 --> 00:37:28,881
- Jason, open the door.
- What?
714
00:37:28,946 --> 00:37:31,546
- What is this?
715
00:37:31,616 --> 00:37:32,956
Have you ever
seen anything like it?
716
00:37:32,984 --> 00:37:34,254
Look at it.
717
00:37:34,319 --> 00:37:36,819
- And what I'm seeing
are watery blisters
718
00:37:36,888 --> 00:37:38,758
that have broken out with blood,
719
00:37:38,823 --> 00:37:42,463
and they're all over,
and it's swelling.
720
00:37:42,527 --> 00:37:44,237
I needed to kind of get
this thing taken care of.
721
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:47,202
I needed to finish it.
722
00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:48,995
I needed to find Kevin mannis,
723
00:37:49,067 --> 00:37:52,267
the original owner
of this dybbuk box.
724
00:37:52,337 --> 00:37:55,137
[Phone ringing]
725
00:37:57,308 --> 00:38:00,308
- I got a call in the
middle of the night.
726
00:38:00,378 --> 00:38:01,878
- [Clears throat]
727
00:38:04,182 --> 00:38:05,252
Hello?
728
00:38:05,316 --> 00:38:06,646
- And I hung up on him.
729
00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:09,088
I was frightened that
somebody had a problem
730
00:38:09,153 --> 00:38:11,123
that I was going to
have to try and solve
731
00:38:11,189 --> 00:38:13,259
or I was gonna have
to take that box back.
732
00:38:13,324 --> 00:38:14,964
[Phone rings]
733
00:38:15,026 --> 00:38:16,786
The phone rang again,
734
00:38:16,861 --> 00:38:20,101
and Jason said, "please
don't hang up on me.
735
00:38:20,164 --> 00:38:21,604
"Talk with me about this.
736
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,330
It's very, very important."
737
00:38:26,604 --> 00:38:29,444
- Within a few minutes of
the conversation with Kevin,
738
00:38:29,507 --> 00:38:33,007
I knew that I was no longer
alone with this problem,
739
00:38:33,077 --> 00:38:36,107
that he was going
to work with me
740
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:40,380
and help me come to some
way of getting this out of my life.
741
00:38:42,453 --> 00:38:45,093
- I went looking for the house
742
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:47,156
and had a hard
time finding it at first.
743
00:38:47,225 --> 00:38:48,755
Couldn't remember
exactly where it was,
744
00:38:48,826 --> 00:38:52,096
and it took me a little
bit to finally locate it.
745
00:39:00,571 --> 00:39:01,871
- Hi, um...
746
00:39:01,873 --> 00:39:04,343
- I told her that I was trying
to get some information
747
00:39:04,409 --> 00:39:05,739
about the box.
748
00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:09,550
- I bought this box.
- I think you should leave.
749
00:39:09,614 --> 00:39:12,584
- I wasn't gonna get anywhere,
so I started to take off.
750
00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:15,180
And I had made it
maybe 10 or 15 steps
751
00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:17,753
when I thought she said...
752
00:39:17,822 --> 00:39:20,322
- I know exactly
why you're here.
753
00:39:20,391 --> 00:39:22,231
- There was a little old lady
754
00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:24,863
drilling me with her eyes.
755
00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:28,533
The woman introduced
herself as Sophie
756
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:30,429
and said she was the
cousin of the woman
757
00:39:30,501 --> 00:39:33,671
who had passed away, havola.
758
00:39:33,672 --> 00:39:36,742
And so I listened.
759
00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:41,378
She said that she had
lived with havola in Poland
760
00:39:41,446 --> 00:39:44,246
prior to world war ii.
761
00:39:44,315 --> 00:39:46,645
At that time, it was kind
of the rage in Europe
762
00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:48,617
to have seances, to
contact the other side,
763
00:39:48,686 --> 00:39:50,586
to play with games like that.
764
00:39:50,655 --> 00:39:53,785
And havola had made
what looked like a ouija board
765
00:39:53,858 --> 00:39:55,628
that was made
out of a tablecloth.
766
00:39:55,693 --> 00:39:57,463
And on the tablecloth,
she had embroidered
767
00:39:57,528 --> 00:39:59,098
letters of the alphabet,
768
00:39:59,163 --> 00:40:00,833
and they would
take a little pendant.
769
00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:04,068
And as they would ask
questions, the pendant would swing
770
00:40:04,135 --> 00:40:05,565
and either spell out a word
771
00:40:05,636 --> 00:40:09,266
or answer a question
that they asked.
772
00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:11,310
- [Gasps]
773
00:40:11,375 --> 00:40:14,275
[Distorted buzzing]
774
00:40:14,345 --> 00:40:15,655
- During the
course of doing this,
775
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,320
they felt like they
had contacted a spirit
776
00:40:19,317 --> 00:40:22,717
that started asking
them to bring it over
777
00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:23,687
from the dark side,
778
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:25,245
and they became suspicious
779
00:40:25,323 --> 00:40:26,733
that what they had
actually contacted
780
00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:28,357
was a dybbuk,
781
00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:30,586
a dark, evil entity
that would try
782
00:40:30,661 --> 00:40:33,731
to grab on to
one of their souls.
783
00:40:33,798 --> 00:40:35,128
So they devised a ritual
784
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,930
where they would be
able to bring this thing over
785
00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:38,025
and trap it in a box.
786
00:40:42,139 --> 00:40:43,069
[Clattering]
787
00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:45,010
- [Screams]
788
00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:53,054
- That's why havola,
the grandmother,
789
00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:55,347
had been so emphatic.
790
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:58,690
- Don't open the box,
because what's inside...
791
00:40:58,756 --> 00:41:01,986
- Because what was inside
was so dark and so terrible.
792
00:41:01,993 --> 00:41:03,593
Apparently, when I bought it
793
00:41:03,661 --> 00:41:04,971
and brought it back
down to my shop
794
00:41:04,996 --> 00:41:06,236
and opened it up
for the first time,
795
00:41:06,264 --> 00:41:07,004
I released it.
796
00:41:07,065 --> 00:41:09,265
- The story that Kevin told me
797
00:41:09,334 --> 00:41:10,974
was like nothing I'd ever heard.
798
00:41:10,969 --> 00:41:14,739
It seemed almost too
impossible to make up.
799
00:41:14,805 --> 00:41:16,265
It seemed very real,
800
00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:18,140
he was very earnest about it,
801
00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:20,439
and it started to
make some sense.
802
00:41:20,511 --> 00:41:24,281
I contacted rabbis
and got the information
803
00:41:24,348 --> 00:41:28,648
on the best means
to seal this spirit away.
804
00:41:40,965 --> 00:41:43,325
Some people may
think this is a hoax,
805
00:41:43,401 --> 00:41:46,941
but every person that
has come in contact
806
00:41:47,004 --> 00:41:48,544
with this box
807
00:41:48,606 --> 00:41:51,836
has suffered sickness,
808
00:41:51,909 --> 00:41:53,979
calamity,
809
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:56,375
misfortune.
810
00:41:56,447 --> 00:41:57,817
- I know that when
I owned this box,
811
00:41:57,848 --> 00:42:00,418
terrible, awful, rotten
things happened to me.
812
00:42:00,484 --> 00:42:03,554
When I got rid of it, they
stopped happening to me.
813
00:42:03,621 --> 00:42:06,261
- Everything that
happened that was bad
814
00:42:06,324 --> 00:42:09,034
was because of the box.
815
00:42:09,093 --> 00:42:10,593
- People have asked me,
816
00:42:10,661 --> 00:42:12,931
"what would it take
to buy the box?"
817
00:42:12,997 --> 00:42:14,827
I wouldn't sell it to anyone.
818
00:42:14,899 --> 00:42:16,769
It weighs on my mind,
819
00:42:16,834 --> 00:42:18,974
because eventually,
something will change.
820
00:42:19,036 --> 00:42:21,196
I'm not gonna be here forever.
821
00:42:21,272 --> 00:42:24,372
The one dilemma
is having this thing
822
00:42:24,442 --> 00:42:26,842
and not knowing
what to do with it.
823
00:42:26,911 --> 00:42:30,181
For now, it is safe.
58915
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