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[daunting music]

[Sadie] It's a long time since I've felt like I'm on the brink...

of something as wonderful as this.

This is the most valuable thing I own.

Not in terms of price but memories and dreams.

I've owned it since I was a young girl.

It was given to me by special people.

This is the key that unlocks me.

I think you've experienced the same things as me.

I want you to know what I've done.

[sighs heavily]

[phone rings]

[phone rings]

[phone rings]

[phone rings]

[clears her throat, tape recorder clicks]

[phone rings]

[phone rings]

Colin?

[laughs]

I'm so glad you rang.

[music plays: "Let Your Love Flow" by The Bellamy Brothers]

[Nick Ross] First, a notorious crime that, two months ago,

made headlines all over Britain.

On Wimbledon Common in south-west London,

a young mother, Rachel Nickell, was waylaid and repeatedly stabbed.

Her scratched and bruised two-year-old son was found clinging to her body.

A consultant clinical psychologist

has been handed evidence of Rachel's murder

and he's drawing up a likely profile of the killer.

The killer is under the age of 30.

He lives locally.

He's a low achiever, so he's never done well at exams.

He has few friends and has solitary hobbies.

He likes pornography including some of the violent sort.

He doesn't have a steady girlfriend.

If he's had previous girlfriends,

they'll have found him unsatisfying,

sexually inexperienced and wanting to act out domineering gameplay.

He's pestered women before.

Indeed, he may have been caught for minor sex offences.

Above all, he could cause a tragedy and suffering like this again.

Most of the calls are coming in on the Rachel Nickell murder.

We've got a large number of names that have been put forward.

One in particular is causing considerable interest to the team.

We've also... I've just got one here.

A woman who was on the Common at the time.

May be a possible use for witnesses.

So 90 calls here to the studio

last time I spoke to the team.

Ten of them Superintendent Bassett says are very interesting.

One man has gone straight to the top of their priority list.

[dog whines]

Sit.

Good lad. Good boy.

[man] Keith?

Follow me.

[siren wailing]

[reporter] There he is!

[press clamouring]

[horn honks]

[long beep]

This interview is being tape recorded. I'm Detective Inspector Keith Pedder,

attached to the Incident Room at Wimbledon Police Station.

The other officer present is...

Detective Constable Martin Long.

What's your full name, please?

Colin Francis Stagg.

Also present is...

Mr Wood, Duty Solicitor.

Date is September 18th 1992.

Time now, 03:21pm

and we are in the Interview Room at Wimbledon Police Station.

Now you've been arrested on suspicion

of the murder of Rachel Nickell,

which occurred July 15th 1992. That's two months ago.

Do you remember that day?

Yeah.

Can you tell me why you remember it?

Well...

b... because of what happened, obviously.

And the... the way I felt that day.

[Colin] Splitting headache.

I hadn't had a headache since I was a teenager.

After I did my normal things during the morning and I had my breakfast,

did some shopping, but I took Brandy, my dog, straight over the Common.

But when I got to the second underpass, I was stopped by the police.

I asked what had happened and they told me there'd been an incident on the Common.

I thought it was flashers or perverts or something.

They told me that a girl had been murdered and that they're clearing the Common.

[Pedder] What were you wearing when you went to the Common that day?

[Colin] It had brightened up. Put on my shorts,

cut down jeans...

black T-shirt,

the boots I was wearing that morning and a pair of sunglasses.

The shoes that you were wearing that day...

you still got 'em?

No.

I threw them away two days ago.

Where did you throw 'em?

In the rubbish.

Why did you throw them away?

The heel came off.

[Sadie] Studies show, from birth to seven,

the most important person in a child's life is their mother.

The vast majority of serial killers either have abusive mothers

or their maternal bond was severed abruptly at a young age.

[muttering]

Interventional work with abused children has the potential

to predict which children are likely to become serial killers.

[Pedder] How long have you lived at your current address?

Since 1968, or '69.

I was living with the family, you know.

Which consisted of?

Me mum and dad,

me brothers and a sister.

They got divorced.

But my mum remarried and my dad died in 1986.

So I took over the tenancy.

Were you very close to your dad?

That's why the Common's so dear to me, you know.

Since I was a little kid. That's why I go there with the dog,

cos every part of the Common reminds me of my dad.

Were you close to your mum?

[woman] What are you doing? You can't just break in here!

[man] Why are you trying to run away from me all the time?

[woman] I'm not running. I'm not doing anything.

-[man] C ome home with me. -[woman] Please don't touch me!

[glass shattering, shouting]

[crockery shattering]

[woman] You're gonna wake the kids up!

[man] Yeah? And they'll find out what a dirty little slag you are!

-No, I'm not! -Where is he?

-What? -Where is he?

-There's no one here. -Come on!

-No, listen... -Come out here!

[Colin] I always felt sorry for my dad more than anything, you know.

[man] Where is he?

[woman] There's no one here but me and the kids.

-Please just calm down, please. -Don't you tell me to calm down!

[shudders]

-It's all in your head. -All in my head?

-All in my fucking head?! -Sorry.

-Sorry. -Sorry?!

[woman screams]

She was always out with other blokes.

She actually brought in the bloke she's married to now

when she was still married to my dad.

[Sadie] Right, it fits your profile.

Lives alone or with a parent in close proximity to the crime scene.

Considered odd by those who know him.

All Stagg's neighbours think that he's odd, right, and...

and this.

"An inappropriate interest in the crime".

That fits Stagg.

He went around talking about it, telling people a girl had been killed.

So if that's what Stagg is, a disorganised killer...

Except he's not.

Rachel was acquired and controlled.

He killed her quickly and effectively

and then vanished leaving almost no evidence.

Those are not the classic signs of a... disorganised homicide.

Do you think he's killed before?

No.

Repeat killers get more experienced as they go on.

They refine their technique and behaviour

and leave a...

ever clearer signature.

-So you think he planned it? -He rehearsed it,

in his masturbatory fantasies.

Right down to the finest detail.

All except one.

He couldn't know who the victim would be.

So she could have been anyone?

Anyone...

with lovely, long, blonde hair.

To get this right,

you need to understand what he's capable of.

And you needn't concern yourself with his past.

It's his future you should be worried about.

It's inevitable he will kill another young woman at some point.

How long?

I mean...

how much time do we have?

I'm afraid, I can't say, Sadie.

But I can tell you that killers like this don't do it just once

and then live off the memory forever.

It fades like, like all memories,

it lessens in intensity,

and it needs to be felt again.

[Pedder] You've had... two girlfriends?

What kind of relationship did you have with Wendy?

[Colin] Well, I would say proper.

It wasn't full sexual intercourse, but we did things together, you know.

Can you tell me what that was?

She come round to my place some evenings,

we'd take a few clothes off and that,

and generally play with each other.

Any problems in that way at all?

No.

I was round her place one evening.

We were just snogging on the couch.

And... she closed the door,

took her top off...

and it just went on from there, you know.

And what was it that you found..

most attractive about Wendy?

Hard to believe, yeah, but her hair.

I told her a lot of times.

When I used to sit with her,

her head dipped,

the smell of her hair...

just really made me feel relaxed

and turned on, you know.

-[phone rings] -It wasn't the shampoo.

It was just the natural smell of her hair.

[phone rings]

[phone rings]

[tape recorder clicks, phone rings]

[phone rings]

[phone rings]

[puffing deeply]

[phone rings]

Hello.

[Colin] All right?

You sound a bit flat, Colin.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm okay.

[footsteps passing]

It's just people around here spreading rumours about me and that.

Why?

Well, it's mainly cos of something that happened last year.

You know people just can't keep themselves to themselves.

[Sadie sighs] It's even worse where I'm from, people just love to gossip.

Well, this is more than gossip.

Oh, God, can't you move?

No, I've been living here since 1968.

I've got all my memories here, got a nice home. I'm not giving that up for anybody.

You know what, you're dead right.

You shouldn't just uproot yourself just because people are being mean.

[Colin sighs] Yeah.

Look, it's just that something terrible happened around here.

You probably read about it in the news.

No, I, er...

I don't pay much attention to the newspapers and...

don't really have a television.

You know, its just cos I'm not married.

I don't have kids, a car or a job.

They think there's something weird about that. It's...

[Colin sighs]

It's just playing on my mind, you know?

Yeah, people are awful.

If you don't fit into what their idea is...

that's their problem.

Yeah.

If you wanted to spend the summer with me,

it's very nice around here.

It's very green. There's nice parklands and that, you know.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah, we could enjoy ourselves, you know.

I'll think about it.

We just have to get a few hurdles out of the way first.

But I'll definitely consider it.

Don't worry, I won't pre-judge you...

if you don't pre-judge me.

It's just nothing like this has ever really happened to me before, you know.

No one's ever really shown interest.

I'm not going to give that up for anything.

You might not even like me when you meet me.

[sighs]

You know you get so used to, er...

not trusting someone.

And then, er...

you build up a wall to protect yourself

and then suddenly,

you meet someone you want to trust and...

it's difficult to let that barrier slip.

I know, yeah.

But I'm getting there.

Lizzie?

What?

I love you.

[Colin] I'm not gonna give that up for anything.

[Sadie] You might not even like me when you meet me.

[Colin sighs]

You know you get so used to, er...

It's difficult to let that barrier slip.

But I'm getting there.

Lizzie?

What?

I love you.

It's pretty good, right?

So Colin Stagg's in love with you?

It worked.

I won his trust.

If he's in love with you, he'll be thinking about you all the time,

-obsessing about you. -Good!

The more he wants me, the more likely he is to tell me what he's done.

Don't forget about what he did to Rachel.

How's your family?

What?

You checked in with them recently?

You checked in with your wife recently?

I'm doing what I need to do, Baz.

-You of all people should understand that. -Yeah, I do understand.

I've got a real chance here

to do something none of the men could ever do.

They wouldn't have the balls for it even if they could.

Yeah, I get that.

But we need to think about where it's heading, Sadie.

To a confession, to material evidence.

To no more women being killed.

Listen, Pedder and Wickerson are getting squeezed by the Yard

and they're gonna keep pushing you.

So we need to be honest with each other, Sadie.

I need to know you're really okay with what they're asking you to do

and you need to think seriously about how far you're prepared to go.

All the fucking way.

Slainte!

The room was filled with candlelight and smoke.

And everyone was chanting.

It was electric.

And she was there laid out on this... this kind of altar.

And I was looking at her...

and she was looking at me.

And then he handed me the knife

and I did what he asked me to do.

It was the look on her face when I did it.

I know it's such an awful thing to say but...

it really was the greatest moment in my entire life.

And what does it sound like...

when a knife cuts human flesh?

It's more like how it feels.

It's like this power,

coursing through your veins.

Like you're in total control.

Tell me again what you did.

So I took the knife in my hand.

And she was just laying there naked.

You're not eating.

[sighs] What the fuck?

Can't.

It needs to be as normal for you as it is for him.

[sighs]

And so I took the knife and she was smiling at me.

-She was willing me to do it. -Start again, I don't believe you.

For God's sake. If he wants to be in control so much,

why wouldn't I be more submissive?

He wants someone he can trust with his secret.

This whole Satanic cult thing, it's...

Is designed to specifically appeal to the killer of Rachel Nickell.

To normalise his fantasies.

To win his confidence.

-[female actor] Catherine! -[Christopher Lee] Don't touch her!

Everything she does now must be of her own free will.

You understand, Catherine, what your future is to be?

Yes, and I am content.

Yes.

-And I am content. -[Catherine] And I am content.

Yes, and I am content.

[man on film] Is my master pleased with his virgin sacrifice?

[woman on film] You have no idea what these people are capable of.

You have no idea what these people are capable of.

They deal directly with the Devil.

-He told me he had to kill her. -He told me he had to kill her.

-They made a bargain. -They made a bargain.

He had this sort of cellar in his basement

with candles and an altar...

and what you'd call some sort of chalice.

[man on film indistinct]

If I'd have known her blood would end up in there,

if I'd have known he'd make me drink it...

[woman screams]

No!!!

[buzzer rings]

[Pedder] You were up on that Common, weren't you?

-Indecently exposing yourself to women. -Hello?

-[Lucy on intercom] Eh-up, mate. It's me. -Yeah, do you wanna come up?

-[door buzzes] -[Colin] I was sunbathing...

naked there.

[muttering]

She says you smiled at her.

She smiled at me first.

You opened your legs.

[Sadie muttering as she reads]

[Colin] I went up there to sunbathe.

If you just give me two minutes.

I'll pop the kettle on then.

I just need to finish the end of this.

[Sadie muttering as she reads]

[Colin] She didn't have to look.

[Pedder] Women have got the right

to walk on that Common unmolested without fear of seeing naked people,

in particular, naked men.

[Sadie reading] "Defining characteristics..."

-Have you shacked up with a student then? -This stuff...

is... it's mind blowing.

Seriously.

Lucy, they should teach us this shit at Hendon.

So this why you haven't been calling me back then, is it?

[muttering]

Sadie?

Sadie!

When did you last see daylight?

[Lucy panting]

Sade.

[Lucy panting]

Sade.

Hold up, mate, hold up.

Hold up. Oh!

Oh!

[Lucy puffing]

You all right?

I'm knackered!

I can't keep up with you and your long legs, man.

[chuckling]

[Lucy] It's not funny.

What are you doing with all this research?

We do what we do based on instinct.

This is different.

I have to understand what makes him the way he is.

Listen to me, Stagg's mum left when he was a kid, right?

Severed bond.

So you do think that Stagg's a serial killer then?

Yeah, I think he will be if I don't stop him.

What, just you, mate, yeah?

No, it's not just me. There's Pedder, there's the Professor.

His profile of the killer is spot on. It literally describes Stagg.

You don't think that these profiles are a bit vague?

They all sound the same to me - weirdo, white, in their twenties,

lives alone or with a parent, who are into martial arts and hardcore porn.

-Come on? -Morning, ladies.

What, do you want a bit of this, do you?

[Lucy] Sade!

Well, you can if you want. Go on, get it out.

In fact, you can have both of us if you like.

Ah, is it not big enough?

-Sade! -Go on, walk off then, go on.

Sade.

Come on, mate, let's go home. I'm knackered.

Come on, man.

Come on.

[siren wails in the background]

[Pedder] You're not telling me the truth

about the time that you were on the Common.

It wasn't two years ago that meeting.

You saw her on the 15th July and she recognised you?

I never saw Rachel that day.

You did see Rachel.

I did not see Rachel that day.

Why...

Mmm, why did you...

did you stab her?

-[phone rings] -What was it that made you do it?

[phone rings]

[phone rings, tape recorder clicks]

-Lizzie... Lizzie... -[phone rings]

Hi, Colin...

-Hello. -Hi, Lizzie.

-What are you up to? -Nothing much.

Just, er, cat sitting

for that lady I talked to you about.

-Yeah. -What about you?

I've been in my garden. I've just been picking fruit.

You know, for my wine.

What sort?

Erm, well...

Redcurrants and that, you know.

Can't wait to taste it.

Is it strong?

[Pedder on tape] What other people's feelings are...

What's that?

Sorry, what?

What's that?

I just heard in the back?

-[interview tape continues] -Erm...

They play the radio next door really loud.

Can you, erm...

Can you give me a call back later, Colin?

Yeah, that sounded like it was...

-Yeah? -Er, yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah.

Okay.

Okay, bye. Bye-bye.

[interview tape continues]

[Colin on tape] We took our clothes off and just generally played with each other.

-[Pedder] Any problems in that way at all? -[Colin] No.

[interview continues indistinctly]

[Pedder] You were up on that hill, the day of the murder?

[Colin] No.

I think I saw her, Rachel.

On the Common.

I'm not sure. It was about two years ago.

[DC Long] Did you expose yourself to her?

[Colin] No. No.

-[Long] It wasn't a nude sunbathing day? -[Colin] No.

[Long] It wasn't two years ago, that meeting.

It was a lot closer to the murder that happened, wasn't it?

[Colin] No. It was two years ago.

She was smiling at me. And I thought,

"Nice looking girl." You know.

[Long] It wasn't two years ago, was it, Colin?

[Colin] Yes, it was.

[Long] You came up there, didn't you? You wanted to bump into her again.

[Colin] Yeah, I was hoping I'd see her there, yeah.

[Long] You wanted to progress it, didn't you?

[Pedder] I've got two witnesses, who are certain in their minds,

the dates and the times that they saw you.

You thought, "I'll try my luck."

[Colin] She smiled at me.

[Pedder] What was it about Rachel that day?

-[Colin] I never saw Rachel that day. -[Pedder] You did see Rachel.

-I did not. -You did.

I did not see Rachel that day.

I never saw Rachel that day.

You did see Rachel that day!

[gasps]

[shudders]

I never did it. I could never do anything like that.

-Like what? -Murder.

Raping and murder, I couldn't do that.

[Pedder sighs]

I never did it. I could never do anything like that.

-Like what? -Murder. Raping and murder.

I couldn't do that.

[gasps]

There are things that happened to me a long time ago,

bad things,

and I've only ever told one man...

and when I did it all went to shit.

I really wanna tell you what happened to me, Colin,

but I can't go through that again.

I can't.

[DCI Wickerson] The Commissioner wants results yesterday.

[Pedder] And does he think that I don't?

He's not the arsehole that has to call Rachel's family every week.

[knock on door]

What?!

Keith, mate!

Hear you've got a covert op running. Would you care to comment?

Yeah, sure. You wanna come up to my office?

Your source is unreliable.

You deny it then?

Let me offer you some advice.

Any irresponsible reporting will be viewed with a very jaundiced eye.

So you can fuck off.

And tell your source when I find out who he is, he'll need a wheelchair.

Can I quote you on that?

It wouldn't be in the public interest

for me to just walk away from a story like this.

Well, if you don't...

you won't be walking anywhere.

Mate!

Sadie.

You gotta be kidding! So the press know about me?

-How did that happen? -Look...

I've held him off for now...

all right, but if this goes to print the op's fucked.

We need to move things on a bit faster than I would've liked.

Move them on how?

It's been approved already, Sadie.

-The Yard signed off on it this morning. -Did they?

What did they sign off on?

We need you to go and...

to go and meet Stagg.

Good.

Why am I always the last to know?

[Sadie] "Colin, my darling, you are driving me mad

and I love your special letters.

Tell me something that will really send me crazy.

I can't help thinking you are showing great restraint.

You are showing control when I feel like you're bursting.

I want you to burst.

I want you to feel all-powerful and overwhelming,

so that I am completely in your power.

[gasping]

Stop!

Please stop!

[screaming]

[door buzzer]

[buzzer rings insistently]

Fucking hell!

Shit!

Shit!

Sadie!

Sadie!

Can you give me, like, ten minutes?

Fucking, Sadie, you twat!

[Wickerson] What's she playing at?

[Pedder] She's coming.

There's reputations on the line here, Keith, not least yours and mine.

It's lovely here in the summer time.

It's lovely here in the summer time.

It's lovely here in the summer time.

It's lovely here. You can sit on the deck chairs and feed the ducks.

It's lovely here in the summer time.

[Sadie] You can sit on the deck chairs and feed the ducks.

[Sadie] "There are secrets about me I long to share with someone.

This is the most valuable thing I own,

not in terms of price but memories and dreams.

I've owned it since I was a young girl.

It was given to me by special people.

This is the key that unlocks me.

I think you've experienced the same things as me.

I think we're the same.

I want you to know about the things I've done.

I've been waiting to meet you.

It's fate, all coming together for us, Colin.

We've only got to overcome one last hurdle.

I can hardly wait."

I'll see you later, boy.

[muttering indistinctly]

[muttering indistinctly]

All right, ladies and gents, lets move out, if everyone knows what they're doing.

Take a piss before you go and see you at location one.

Be hyper-vigilant, please. Thank you.

You know the signal?

Sorry, what?

The signal, if you're in trouble.

Got it.

Are you okay?

Of course.

[birds cawing]

-[radio crackles] -[Pedder] Update on India one, please.

-[officer] James, still blindside of RV. -Received.

[Wickerson] Hold up, we have got Stagg, look.

[daunting music]

[Pedder] For the benefit of all units. India two is approaching RV...

from the green aspect.

[Pedder on comms] All units India two approaching.

[Pedder on comms] All eyes on India two and India one.

You must be Colin.

You must be Lizzie.

[daunting music]

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