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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,910 --> 00:00:06,680 Sync:YTET-Vicky8800 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,810 -=www.ydy.com/bbs=- 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:26,074 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 4 00:01:29,450 --> 00:01:30,650 thank you sergeant. 5 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:31,550 hi,chief. 6 00:01:31,970 --> 00:01:35,360 so our victim's name is called Carl Nelson 7 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,240 16 years old,high school junior. 8 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,720 He's riding his bicycle to school 9 00:01:39,790 --> 00:01:40,750 when unknown sailing 10 00:01:40,820 --> 00:01:43,400 shot him four times with an 0.90 metre weapon 11 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,210 on a slow-moving car 12 00:01:45,290 --> 00:01:46,820 Where're the victim's parents? 13 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:49,910 **** 14 00:02:01,770 --> 00:02:04,250 can't find my purse,can't get my cellphone*** 15 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,360 you lost your purse? 16 00:02:05,430 --> 00:02:06,300 okay,i don't lose it.sergeant 17 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,920 i just can't remember where i put it. 18 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,370 ****** 19 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:28,510 don't look like a game member 20 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:32,960 no,*** 21 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 **** 22 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,680 He shouldn't be on the street. 23 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,960 Sir, we can go inside. 24 00:03:29,230 --> 00:03:30,870 Perhaps you can show me carl's room. 25 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:32,040 There might be something in there. 26 00:03:32,150 --> 00:03:34,600 I'm not leaving carl on the street by himself like that. 27 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,620 No! This is what happens 28 00:03:35,740 --> 00:03:37,070 from doing the right thing. 29 00:03:37,140 --> 00:03:38,150 Richard, you cannot think that. 30 00:03:38,230 --> 00:03:38,480 This! This! 31 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:39,820 You stay here with your son. 32 00:03:39,910 --> 00:03:41,440 I'll show them through the house. 33 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,590 I'll show you through the house. 34 00:03:47,710 --> 00:03:48,700 All right, then. 35 00:03:52,460 --> 00:03:53,870 If you're looking for drugs or weapons, 36 00:03:53,950 --> 00:03:54,860 you're wasting your time. 37 00:03:54,940 --> 00:03:55,970 Carl wasn't that kind of a boy. 38 00:03:56,050 --> 00:03:56,890 You were close to him? 39 00:03:56,990 --> 00:03:58,480 Yes. Yes, I was. 40 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:59,930 I counseled his mother when she was dying 41 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,690 of cancer last january,and carl would... 42 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,710 stop by my classroom sometimes. 43 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:06,200 You were one of his teachers then? 44 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,830 No. He went to a public school, 45 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:08,940 but he knew a lot of the kids at 46 00:04:09,020 --> 00:04:10,130 our lady queen of peace 47 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,220 because he's very involved in our church. 48 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:14,080 Is this carl's girlfriend? 49 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,690 Kendall price. 50 00:04:15,810 --> 00:04:16,590 More like buddies. 51 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:17,890 She's in my civics class. 52 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,720 So when carl's father said 53 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,790 this is what comes of doing the right thing, 54 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:23,120 he was referring to 55 00:04:23,180 --> 00:04:25,570 testimony carl was about to give in the case of... 56 00:04:25,650 --> 00:04:28,320 gerald curtis and his motion for a new trial. 57 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,550 Yes, but I can't imagine 58 00:04:30,630 --> 00:04:32,650 that carl would've been killed over that. 59 00:04:32,730 --> 00:04:34,870 Really? Can you think of another reason 60 00:04:34,940 --> 00:04:35,950 someone would drive by his house 61 00:04:36,030 --> 00:04:37,240 and shoot him to death? 62 00:04:37,540 --> 00:04:39,220 Do you know what carl had to say 63 00:04:39,340 --> 00:04:40,290 that was important enough to 64 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,900 get mr. Curtis a new trial? 65 00:04:42,590 --> 00:04:44,450 I know he gave a taped deposition 66 00:04:44,530 --> 00:04:45,910 to defense attorneys. 67 00:04:46,060 --> 00:04:47,340 A couple of weeks ago. 68 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:50,420 Carl, can you tell us about the events 69 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:53,890 you witnessed at the kwikmart on june 21, 2003? 70 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,410 It was really hot, 71 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,200 so I stopped to get a soda. 72 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:00,660 And then this really tall guy came in, 73 00:05:00,740 --> 00:05:01,250 I mean, like, 74 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,920 way over 6 feet easy. 75 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,520 And he was wearing 76 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,680 a red bandanna on his face. 77 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:09,780 Like a robber in an old western or something. 78 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:13,060 At first, I didn't know what he was doing, 79 00:05:13,130 --> 00:05:15,350 but then he pulled a gun. 80 00:05:15,770 --> 00:05:18,660 And he shouted at us to all lie down 81 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,360 and not look at him. 82 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:21,460 And, uh... 83 00:05:21,770 --> 00:05:23,820 the husband and wife that 84 00:05:23,930 --> 00:05:26,180 owned the store, koreans, 85 00:05:26,290 --> 00:05:28,080 they were behind the counter. 86 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,710 And the robber guy yelled at them 87 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:32,480 to open the register. 88 00:05:32,740 --> 00:05:34,830 But the husband wouldn'T. 89 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:36,470 I mean, he started arguing with him, 90 00:05:36,540 --> 00:05:37,660 and then just, boom! 91 00:05:37,810 --> 00:05:39,270 The guy just shot him. 92 00:05:39,650 --> 00:05:41,290 You mind pausing the tape please? 93 00:05:41,330 --> 00:05:41,790 Yes, sir. 94 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:44,070 Chief johnson. 95 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:44,830 Mr. Garnett. 96 00:05:44,910 --> 00:05:45,860 Thanks for moving so quick. 97 00:05:45,940 --> 00:05:46,780 You know how glad we are 98 00:05:46,850 --> 00:05:48,230 to cooperate with the D.A.'S office. 99 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,620 Right. 100 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:51,320 This is gerald curtis. 101 00:05:51,430 --> 00:05:52,480 This is the man convicted of killing 102 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,670 the two owners of the kwikmart 103 00:05:53,740 --> 00:05:54,720 you just heard about. 104 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:58,630 Now, listen to carl's description of the assailant. 105 00:05:59,930 --> 00:06:00,830 Yeah. 106 00:06:00,910 --> 00:06:02,200 Like I said, he was 107 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,700 way taller than me. 108 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,260 I don't know, maybe 6'1", 6'2". 109 00:06:08,340 --> 00:06:10,240 And blonde hair. 110 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,130 But not like light blonde, 111 00:06:12,210 --> 00:06:13,970 like in between,like darker. 112 00:06:14,090 --> 00:06:16,700 And, uh...it was pale. 113 00:06:17,050 --> 00:06:18,530 Not old, either. 114 00:06:18,610 --> 00:06:20,360 Like maybe 20. 115 00:06:20,470 --> 00:06:24,240 And when he was emptying the register 116 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,740 and his bandana fell down, 117 00:06:25,820 --> 00:06:28,030 he had this, like, scar running right here. 118 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,920 Why are you just coming forward now, carl? 119 00:06:32,610 --> 00:06:34,280 Father watson's class put up 120 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,910 all these fliers asking for witnesses. 121 00:06:37,060 --> 00:06:39,600 And I knew gerald curtis was about to die. 122 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:41,840 So I decided, 123 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:43,590 I had to do something. 124 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,010 Buzz, thank you. 125 00:06:47,860 --> 00:06:49,690 Father watson,he's the priest that took us 126 00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:50,640 through carl's room. 127 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,160 And gerald curtis said he was innocent all along? 128 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,500 Yeah, but they all do that. 129 00:06:54,570 --> 00:06:55,600 Lawyers for the freedom initiative 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,820 took him very seriously. 131 00:06:56,890 --> 00:06:58,380 Also, in complete frankness, 132 00:06:58,490 --> 00:06:59,940 gerald's first attorney was not so hot, 133 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:01,300 so if we've got the wrong guy in line 134 00:07:01,410 --> 00:07:03,660 for lethal injection,I want to know about it chief johnson. 135 00:07:03,740 --> 00:07:06,820 Given curtis' record,it made sense he did those murders. 136 00:07:06,930 --> 00:07:08,610 Two people put him in the store 137 00:07:08,690 --> 00:07:09,640 at the time of the murders, 138 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,590 and he never denied being there. 139 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:14,490 Also, in fairness,until we heard the deposition, 140 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,400 we weren't sure in which order 141 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,420 the victims were shot. 142 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:18,080 So his testimony is very good. 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,360 And now he's dead. 144 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Which looks to me 145 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,900 like somebody didn't want him in court. 146 00:07:21,970 --> 00:07:23,530 And it also makes it a lot harder for you 147 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,850 to get another conviction. 148 00:07:25,050 --> 00:07:27,470 And we all know how much you hate to lose,mr. Garnett. 149 00:07:27,540 --> 00:07:28,730 Well, it's gonna be hard to cross-examine 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,060 a videotape on the stand. 151 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:31,330 So who exactly knew that carl was 152 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:33,190 coming forward with this information? 153 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:35,490 Me. Gerald curtis' new defense team. 154 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Carl, of course,his dad, father watson, 155 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:40,120 his students, members of carl's church, 156 00:07:40,190 --> 00:07:42,080 and probably curtis himself. 157 00:07:42,190 --> 00:07:44,290 In other words, the entire state of california. 158 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,770 Including our killer. 159 00:07:45,890 --> 00:07:47,560 Maybe carl didn't just describe the guy 160 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,450 who killed the koreans at the kwikmart. 161 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,500 His own murderer as well. 162 00:07:55,020 --> 00:07:56,140 Chief johnson. 163 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:57,720 A moment. 164 00:07:58,350 --> 00:07:59,340 A little good news. 165 00:07:59,450 --> 00:08:01,620 I paid most of the ransom estelle wanted, 166 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:03,750 and I have complete custody of my kids. 167 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:05,690 Oh...that's wonderful. 168 00:08:05,890 --> 00:08:07,610 Oh, congratulations. 169 00:08:07,690 --> 00:08:08,830 Thank you. 170 00:08:08,930 --> 00:08:10,450 Thanks for your testimony. 171 00:08:10,530 --> 00:08:11,540 You stuck your neck out, 172 00:08:11,620 --> 00:08:13,440 and that really meant a lot. 173 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,230 Oh, no problem. 174 00:08:14,310 --> 00:08:15,090 Chief? 175 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,340 Dinner's here. 176 00:08:16,420 --> 00:08:17,600 Oh, coming. 177 00:08:18,970 --> 00:08:21,590 Uh, I'll think of a more appropriate way 178 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:22,770 to thank you later. 179 00:08:22,850 --> 00:08:24,030 Don'T. Don'T. 180 00:08:24,110 --> 00:08:26,020 It's my good deed for the year. 181 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:28,520 Oh, and there was something else I wanted, 182 00:08:28,610 --> 00:08:30,370 it was kind of important,what was it, um... 183 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,830 can it wait? 184 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:33,160 Sure, yeah. 185 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,320 Yeah, I can't think of it anyway. 186 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,190 Yeah, we'll talk later. 187 00:08:35,300 --> 00:08:36,070 Ok. 188 00:08:38,650 --> 00:08:41,940 2 weeks ago,this carl kid records his testimony. 189 00:08:42,010 --> 00:08:44,030 And then 3 days before he gets to court, 190 00:08:44,110 --> 00:08:46,240 where the deputy D.A.Can cross-examine him, 191 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,870 someone blows the boy away. 192 00:08:48,100 --> 00:08:50,000 Doesn't that sound a little coincidental? 193 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:52,020 I don't believe in coincidence. 194 00:08:52,090 --> 00:08:54,040 So let's take the systematic approach. 195 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,060 Has anyone seen my purse? 196 00:08:56,140 --> 00:08:58,270 I looked in my office and my car, 197 00:08:58,350 --> 00:08:59,740 and where are my keys? 198 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,680 Ok, good. 199 00:09:01,790 --> 00:09:03,850 Keys, lipstick.What else? 200 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,880 Daniels and I could pull the booking photos 201 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,170 of everyone with assault charges 202 00:09:07,250 --> 00:09:09,190 who match a description in carl's deposition. 203 00:09:09,260 --> 00:09:10,740 That would be white males, 204 00:09:10,820 --> 00:09:13,210 under 30, over 6 feet with a scar from 205 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,690 the mouth to the chin. 206 00:09:14,770 --> 00:09:15,930 Ok, sounds good. 207 00:09:16,010 --> 00:09:17,580 How far back do you want us to go? 208 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,060 Uh, let's start a year before the kwikmart murders 209 00:09:20,130 --> 00:09:21,660 and take it through to today, 210 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:22,860 and then, lieutenant tao, 211 00:09:22,940 --> 00:09:25,080 if you could follow up on the casings and bullets 212 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,300 that were in carl's body, 213 00:09:26,380 --> 00:09:27,450 see if we're lucky enough to have any of them 214 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,620 match up with the gun that killed that korean couple. 215 00:09:29,660 --> 00:09:32,200 Because if we are,detective sanchez, 216 00:09:32,270 --> 00:09:34,330 I think someone else might have seen carl's killer. 217 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,130 Who's that? 218 00:09:35,170 --> 00:09:37,000 Gerald curtis. 219 00:09:37,070 --> 00:09:38,650 He's visiting L.A. Right now 220 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:40,520 to appear at his motion for a new trial 221 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,840 which means that the contents of his cell 222 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,080 at folsom have been vaulted. 223 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,490 We need a search warrant to go through them. 224 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:47,860 See if you can manage that 225 00:09:47,970 --> 00:09:50,630 and have his things overnighted to us.Thank you. 226 00:09:50,930 --> 00:09:52,940 And then while we're waiting, 227 00:09:53,020 --> 00:09:54,790 let's put together a removal order 228 00:09:54,860 --> 00:09:56,540 and send it over to our new friends 229 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,390 over at the da's office 230 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:59,630 because tomorrow morning, 231 00:09:59,780 --> 00:10:01,900 gerald curtis is gonna have to tell us 232 00:10:01,970 --> 00:10:03,450 his side of the story. 233 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,140 Listen, uh... 234 00:10:10,210 --> 00:10:11,770 do you think the two of you could look 235 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:14,470 for my purse? It's big and it's black. 236 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:15,350 Trust us, chief. 237 00:10:15,430 --> 00:10:16,570 We know what your purse looks like. 238 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:17,630 Ok, thank you. 239 00:10:17,710 --> 00:10:19,920 It's got my license in it,and my credit cards, 240 00:10:20,030 --> 00:10:21,400 my ammunition clip,my phone. 241 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,820 Brand new cell phone. 242 00:10:22,930 --> 00:10:24,380 It's got a ring. 243 00:10:26,460 --> 00:10:28,940 Um, have you tried calling it? 244 00:10:29,010 --> 00:10:29,900 Hundreds of times. 245 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:32,960 It's just, please see if you can find it. 246 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,010 I am losing my ability to function. 247 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,020 Thank you, officer. 248 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,940 Gerald curtis. 249 00:11:02,050 --> 00:11:03,370 I'm deputy chief johnson. 250 00:11:03,450 --> 00:11:04,520 I'm sorry to put you 251 00:11:04,590 --> 00:11:05,700 through transport from county. 252 00:11:05,780 --> 00:11:06,830 That's no problem. 253 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,780 I loved the trip. 254 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,090 Did detective sanchez 255 00:11:10,130 --> 00:11:11,840 reappraise you of your rights? 256 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:13,490 Yeah. Yeah. 257 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,770 And, uh... 258 00:11:15,270 --> 00:11:17,170 I'm not sure 259 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,990 how much I can tell you without my lawyer. 260 00:11:19,070 --> 00:11:21,010 I'm not investigating the kwikmart murders. 261 00:11:21,090 --> 00:11:23,340 I'm looking into who killed carl nelson 262 00:11:23,420 --> 00:11:24,780 yesterday afternoon, 263 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:26,030 and you're not a suspect in that crime, 264 00:11:26,110 --> 00:11:27,290 so you don't need a lawyer. 265 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,490 And from those chains you're wearing, 266 00:11:29,570 --> 00:11:31,080 I'm guessing that you had a pretty good alibi. 267 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:33,020 Yes, ma'am, I do. 268 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:35,320 You know, more than that, 269 00:11:35,390 --> 00:11:38,990 I really needed him alive, 270 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,750 but I'M... 271 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:43,520 trying not to think about it so selfishly. 272 00:11:44,050 --> 00:11:45,460 All I keep thinking about 273 00:11:45,570 --> 00:11:47,590 is how close I came to having a new trial, 274 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:51,470 and now...I don't know. 275 00:11:52,820 --> 00:11:54,150 But on the other hand, 276 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:55,620 you know,I only made it this far 277 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:57,250 because the kid stood up for me. 278 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:59,460 I guess I should do the same for him, 279 00:11:59,530 --> 00:12:02,680 but I'm not really sure what I can tell you. 280 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:04,280 Well, did you ever meet him? 281 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,690 Carl? 282 00:12:05,770 --> 00:12:08,890 No. No, I didn't even know his name 283 00:12:08,990 --> 00:12:11,340 until my lawyers told me about him a couple of days ago. 284 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:12,910 You tell anyone in prison about carl? 285 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:13,940 Any of your friends? 286 00:12:14,590 --> 00:12:16,470 I don't have any friends 287 00:12:16,780 --> 00:12:18,340 in prison, ma'am. 288 00:12:18,420 --> 00:12:19,270 And no, 289 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:20,600 I didn't tell anyone. 290 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,160 You know, I mean,that was something 291 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,610 that my lawyers and father watson 292 00:12:23,690 --> 00:12:24,990 warned me not to do. 293 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:27,670 You were in touch with father watson personally? 294 00:12:27,740 --> 00:12:28,420 Yeah. 295 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,190 Well, a little. 296 00:12:31,310 --> 00:12:33,770 Through the freedom initiative. 297 00:12:34,110 --> 00:12:35,220 I was, like, 298 00:12:35,770 --> 00:12:38,830 a project for his class. 299 00:12:39,180 --> 00:12:41,000 You know,it was a good thing for me. 300 00:12:41,150 --> 00:12:42,640 It's a really good thing because 301 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:44,530 carl came forward. 302 00:12:48,610 --> 00:12:49,660 And I mean, 303 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,060 you know, I know that in some ways, 304 00:12:52,140 --> 00:12:56,300 I didn't deserve a second chance. 305 00:12:58,420 --> 00:13:00,250 Oh, excuse me. 306 00:13:02,890 --> 00:13:04,760 I keep thinking about myself. 307 00:13:05,250 --> 00:13:07,650 And I know that that's wrong.I'm sorry. 308 00:13:08,450 --> 00:13:11,380 You're disappointed.That's understandable. 309 00:13:12,470 --> 00:13:13,340 I am. 310 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:15,290 I am, because... 311 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:19,100 I'm different now.You know? 312 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,850 I mean, I admit, I admit 313 00:13:21,970 --> 00:13:24,430 I made a lot of mistakes when I was young. 314 00:13:25,370 --> 00:13:27,510 But the reward 315 00:13:27,820 --> 00:13:30,560 for change isn't freedom,it's, uh... 316 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:33,520 supposed to be spiritual. 317 00:13:33,630 --> 00:13:36,500 At least that's what my priests tell me. 318 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,450 So maybe I've been wishing 319 00:13:38,530 --> 00:13:40,600 for the wrong thing anyway. 320 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:44,820 Sorry, how else can I help? 321 00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:47,220 You said you were in the kwikmart 322 00:13:47,290 --> 00:13:49,300 during the killings,and I was wondering if 323 00:13:49,530 --> 00:13:50,650 you might have remembered 324 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,490 anything about the gunman. 325 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:53,830 You may have to revoke your right 326 00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:55,490 to counsel to answer that question. 327 00:13:56,900 --> 00:13:57,770 Thank you. 328 00:13:58,650 --> 00:13:59,520 Oh... 329 00:14:00,190 --> 00:14:02,370 I have been waiting years 330 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:04,570 for somebody to ask me that question. 331 00:14:04,650 --> 00:14:06,920 I can answer you without my lawyers. 332 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:08,990 I'll just, I'll go ahead and just 333 00:14:09,070 --> 00:14:11,010 tell you what I told them, ok? 334 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,110 I appreciate that. 335 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:13,250 I was... 336 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,610 I was high on pcp at the time. 337 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,550 I wasn't even sure what the guy was doing really 338 00:14:19,630 --> 00:14:20,790 probably because he had this, uh... 339 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:23,760 handkerchief, you know,tied around his face. 340 00:14:23,860 --> 00:14:25,230 It looked like a joke, 341 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:27,270 you know, but he had a gun, 342 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:29,750 and he told everybody to put our heads down. 343 00:14:29,820 --> 00:14:31,980 I thought, you know,in case this isn't a dream, 344 00:14:32,060 --> 00:14:34,530 I better stare at the floor. 345 00:14:34,610 --> 00:14:36,370 Uh, what else. 346 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,320 He was really tall. 347 00:14:39,310 --> 00:14:41,560 He had lighter hair than mine.I remember that. 348 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,580 You have any idea 349 00:14:45,730 --> 00:14:47,020 why two of the witnesses 350 00:14:47,650 --> 00:14:49,470 thought that you were the killer? 351 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,680 I hadn't showered in a couple of days. 352 00:14:52,750 --> 00:14:54,230 And I was... 353 00:14:54,540 --> 00:14:56,060 out of my mind. 354 00:14:56,450 --> 00:14:58,950 Soon as the guy left,I ran up to the counter, 355 00:14:59,030 --> 00:15:00,820 and if people had looked up 356 00:15:00,890 --> 00:15:02,190 then, they would've seen me 357 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:04,600 taking all the beef jerky. 358 00:15:04,910 --> 00:15:08,220 It's so stupid,I stuffed it in my pants. 359 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,350 I thought, you know, 360 00:15:10,750 --> 00:15:12,280 free stuff. 361 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,190 And he's been paying for it ever since. 362 00:15:14,260 --> 00:15:16,430 Which made him ideal for me to introduce 363 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:18,700 to my civics class,the freedom initiative. 364 00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:19,580 Chief. 365 00:15:19,660 --> 00:15:21,260 We got the report back on the casings. 366 00:15:21,380 --> 00:15:22,860 The gun that killed carl, 367 00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:25,220 completely different from the one used at kwikmart. 368 00:15:25,330 --> 00:15:27,360 Ok, so it won't be easy. 369 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,760 Thank you,lieutenant tao. 370 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:31,080 But you knew gerald before his arrest. 371 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:31,880 No. 372 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,210 But I was looking for someone just like him. 373 00:15:33,290 --> 00:15:33,980 Really, why? 374 00:15:34,050 --> 00:15:36,010 I want my students to see from personal experience 375 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,800 that injustice can be found in 376 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:38,830 their very own neighborhood 377 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:40,580 and maybe even at the kwikmart, and, 378 00:15:40,650 --> 00:15:43,050 that the consequences of that injustice 379 00:15:43,130 --> 00:15:44,840 could be life and death. 380 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,140 Well, I'd say you made that 381 00:15:46,220 --> 00:15:48,290 point very clear, father.This way. 382 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,980 Have a seat. 383 00:15:51,150 --> 00:15:53,550 But carl wasn't one of your students, though. 384 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:55,220 No. No, he wasn'T. 385 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:56,730 So how did he become involved 386 00:15:56,810 --> 00:15:58,460 in giving mr. Curtis a new trial? 387 00:15:58,530 --> 00:15:59,560 I called the freedom initiative 388 00:15:59,630 --> 00:16:00,700 to see what they were doing in our area, 389 00:16:00,780 --> 00:16:02,380 and they sent over copies of everything 390 00:16:02,450 --> 00:16:03,980 they'd obtained from gerald's trial, 391 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:05,120 and I noticed, 392 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,380 from the timestamp of the kwikmart's register 393 00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:09,800 that about 15 people had come in and out of the store 394 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,550 minutes maybe even seconds 395 00:16:11,630 --> 00:16:12,770 before the murders took place. 396 00:16:12,890 --> 00:16:14,910 But the lapd only interviewed 4 of those people. 397 00:16:14,990 --> 00:16:16,280 So we papered the neighborhood 398 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,650 looking for a witness that the police might have missed. 399 00:16:18,730 --> 00:16:20,370 And the person who finally turned up 400 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,000 just happened to be someone you knew. 401 00:16:22,580 --> 00:16:26,190 Didn't that strike you as...coincidental? 402 00:16:26,270 --> 00:16:28,310 Struck me as a miracle,ms. Johnson. 403 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,610 You saw carl's testimony. 404 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,970 Didn't you find it compelling? 405 00:16:33,190 --> 00:16:35,050 I found it convenient. 406 00:16:35,130 --> 00:16:36,190 Excuse me? 407 00:16:36,270 --> 00:16:38,230 Carl nelson,a young boy, 408 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:40,210 who with whom you were extremely familiar, 409 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,330 suddenly turns up with crucial, 410 00:16:43,410 --> 00:16:45,350 never before heard information 411 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:48,390 about a murder involving a death row inmate 412 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:50,730 that you had made the personal cause of your class. 413 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:53,780 Soon after the boy gives his video deposition, 414 00:16:53,860 --> 00:16:56,550 he is conveniently shot to death 415 00:16:56,630 --> 00:16:58,680 before the prosecution has a chance to question him. 416 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,700 A young man performed an act 417 00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:03,850 or rare moral courage. 418 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,640 He stood up for the most powerless 419 00:17:05,710 --> 00:17:07,500 and needy in society. 420 00:17:07,580 --> 00:17:09,140 And he was senselessly murdered for it. 421 00:17:09,220 --> 00:17:10,790 I don't find it convenient, ms. Johnson, 422 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:12,630 because it's also the story of christ. 423 00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:14,800 The foundation of my faith. 424 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:18,130 Which is not to say that I am any 425 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,750 less than horrified by carl's death. 426 00:17:21,970 --> 00:17:25,440 But now it's a responsibility to make sure 427 00:17:25,860 --> 00:17:28,440 that gerald curtis receives the benefit 428 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:30,360 of carl's sacrifice, isn't it? 429 00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:33,900 That is not my job,father.No. 430 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:37,750 My responsibility is to find and arrest 431 00:17:38,050 --> 00:17:40,190 the person who killed carl nelson. 432 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:42,970 So, unless you can think of any other connection, 433 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,190 between your work and carl's death. 434 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:47,700 No. 435 00:17:54,170 --> 00:17:56,100 I wonder, ms. Johnson. 436 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,550 Do you believe in god? 437 00:17:59,860 --> 00:18:01,970 Right now,I believe in god a whole lot more 438 00:18:02,010 --> 00:18:04,000 than I believe you,father. 439 00:18:06,860 --> 00:18:08,730 We looked at the register tape, too. 440 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,270 Asked for witnesses on the news, 441 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:11,740 only so many responded. 442 00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:13,870 And when it comes to this carl nelson kid, 443 00:18:13,950 --> 00:18:15,890 summers in L.A.,We got more stray 444 00:18:15,970 --> 00:18:16,960 bullets than rain. 445 00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:18,830 You're suggesting that 4 bullets strayed 446 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:20,510 into carl nelson's chest? 447 00:18:20,590 --> 00:18:22,210 The wrong kid may have been hit. Yeah. 448 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,150 His death could be completely random. 449 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:25,450 What physical evidence 450 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,310 do you have suggesting otherwise? 451 00:18:27,390 --> 00:18:28,800 Well, you might try investigating. 452 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,610 Look, we are not being defensive about it. 453 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,010 It's possible, too,that detective ross 454 00:18:33,090 --> 00:18:34,940 did everything right in his investigation 455 00:18:35,010 --> 00:18:37,150 and the D.A. Convicted the wrong man. 456 00:18:37,230 --> 00:18:38,460 If you know what you want to do, 457 00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:39,560 we're here to help. 458 00:18:39,630 --> 00:18:42,410 If gerald curtis didn't kill that couple at the kwikmart, 459 00:18:42,530 --> 00:18:43,630 it's possible that someone 460 00:18:43,710 --> 00:18:46,220 passing themselves off as one of the witnesses did. 461 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:48,010 Did anyone who testified 462 00:18:48,090 --> 00:18:50,200 or that you interviewed,detective ross, 463 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,450 match the description that carl gave of the killer? 464 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,120 It's been awhile.I don't remember exactly, 465 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,260 but, twenties, white, tall,male, blonde, a scar. 466 00:18:58,330 --> 00:19:00,120 Doesn't narrow downvery much, does it? 467 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:00,960 You think? 468 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,240 So far, we found 323 men with priors 469 00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:05,300 who could be the assailant. 470 00:19:05,380 --> 00:19:06,370 We're still running more searches, 471 00:19:06,450 --> 00:19:08,660 but I've got their booking numbers,their photos, so... 472 00:19:08,770 --> 00:19:10,100 ok, detective ross,if you could look through 473 00:19:10,170 --> 00:19:12,190 those people with us.See if you recognize any-- 474 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:13,020 where is she? 475 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:15,580 Mrs. Pope, who are you looking for? 476 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:16,800 You know who. 477 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,470 Where is she? 478 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:21,790 Estelle.Hello. 479 00:19:21,890 --> 00:19:23,040 Can I help you? 480 00:19:25,050 --> 00:19:27,880 Ok, we have the contents of gerald curtis' cell. 481 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,030 Excuse me. 482 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:33,390 Estelle, why don't we go into my office. 483 00:19:33,470 --> 00:19:35,070 I don't need to go into your office. 484 00:19:35,180 --> 00:19:36,320 I just came by to say 485 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,530 that if you think that now that my husband is free, 486 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,450 your gonna pick up your little affair with him 487 00:19:41,530 --> 00:19:42,640 where you left off, 488 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:44,790 and take over as the mother of my children, 489 00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:46,850 you had better think again. 490 00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:50,240 I'll take care of this. 491 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,810 Maybe we should continue this-- 492 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,820 get your hands off of me. 493 00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:57,220 And don't you ever even step into my house, 494 00:19:57,290 --> 00:19:58,460 I am warning you. 495 00:19:58,540 --> 00:19:59,680 Because if I find out 496 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,620 that you are sleeping with will again, 497 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:03,510 I will reopen this custody issue, 498 00:20:03,610 --> 00:20:05,850 and I am not kidding. 499 00:20:17,450 --> 00:20:18,690 Sorry. 500 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,550 Sorry. 501 00:20:23,650 --> 00:20:27,330 Sorry,about that, uh...little interruption. 502 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,650 Detective sanchez,is that the... 503 00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:32,480 contents of mr. Curtis' cell? 504 00:20:33,050 --> 00:20:34,990 Uh, yes, ma'am.Straight from folsom. 505 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:37,660 So if we could maybe get organized a little. 506 00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:39,490 Um, sergeant gabriel, 507 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,110 and detective daniels, 508 00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:42,950 if you could pass the booking photos off to 509 00:20:43,060 --> 00:20:45,130 detective ross,and he could look through them 510 00:20:45,220 --> 00:20:46,720 and see if there's anyone he recognizes, 511 00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:48,730 and then maybe lieutenant flynn-- 512 00:20:48,810 --> 00:20:49,530 wait a minute. 513 00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:51,060 You mean,we're not gonna talk about 514 00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:52,130 what just happened? 515 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,220 No, I don't,I don't think so. No. 516 00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:55,140 Chief, listen-- 517 00:20:55,250 --> 00:20:56,210 if you could look through-- 518 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,120 chief, wait, one second. 519 00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:59,700 Did you go deaf all of a sudden?She said, no. 520 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,620 So you want us to go through the boxes. 521 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:04,510 Yes, and, um... 522 00:21:04,590 --> 00:21:05,770 chief pope. 523 00:21:06,420 --> 00:21:07,410 Chief pope. 524 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:11,260 And if, um,someone could please 525 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:13,250 set up some interviews, 526 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,720 with the old witnesses from the kwikmart, 527 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,990 to see if any of them... 528 00:21:18,170 --> 00:21:19,840 are tall and blonde. 529 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,240 Excuse me,just one moment. 530 00:21:22,810 --> 00:21:23,760 Chief pope. 531 00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:26,710 I can take care of this. 532 00:21:26,790 --> 00:21:28,870 What have you been telling estelle? 533 00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:30,110 Why does she hate me so much? 534 00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:32,230 Estelle is angry about the terms of our divorce. 535 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:34,250 She's guilty about having basically sold 536 00:21:34,330 --> 00:21:35,930 our children because her husband to be 537 00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:37,770 doesn't want them.She's lashing out at me. 538 00:21:37,850 --> 00:21:39,190 At you? My god. 539 00:21:39,260 --> 00:21:40,480 I may have just lost the respect 540 00:21:40,550 --> 00:21:41,730 of everyone who works here. 541 00:21:41,810 --> 00:21:43,220 Look,before you were hired, 542 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,230 I made a full disclosure to the chief 543 00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:45,910 about our previous relationship. 544 00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:48,400 What? You told the chief we had an affair? 545 00:21:49,770 --> 00:21:51,900 Oh...god... 546 00:21:53,130 --> 00:21:55,380 is that the thing you forgot to tell me last night? 547 00:21:55,470 --> 00:21:56,750 No, no, no.That was about, 548 00:21:57,150 --> 00:21:59,260 I don't know.I forget what I forgot to tell you, 549 00:21:59,330 --> 00:22:01,050 but look, it's not as important as this. 550 00:22:01,190 --> 00:22:02,760 I will manage the fallout from estelle. 551 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,980 Give me a day,I'll take care of it. 552 00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:05,300 How am I supposed to go back in there 553 00:22:05,380 --> 00:22:06,290 and face my people? 554 00:22:06,370 --> 00:22:08,310 Chief, we found something you should see. 555 00:22:08,670 --> 00:22:09,660 Ok. 556 00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:13,810 Excuse me. 557 00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:20,450 These are gerald curtis' pen pals. 558 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,770 This is kendall price. 559 00:22:23,340 --> 00:22:24,500 Look familiar? 560 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:32,030 The same kendall price from carl's bedroom. 561 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:35,000 I think I'd like to see this girl in person. 562 00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:42,710 Kendall, deputy chief brenda leigh johnson. 563 00:22:42,780 --> 00:22:44,190 And this is sergeant gabriel. 564 00:22:44,910 --> 00:22:46,470 Now, I don't want to scare you, 565 00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:48,720 but everyone who comes into this room... 566 00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:50,580 I'll tell you why it matters. 567 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:53,230 Because if pope pulled her into our department 568 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:54,460 because she's his ex, 569 00:22:54,530 --> 00:22:55,850 I mean, come on,how does that sound? 570 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,020 I don't give a flying you know what. 571 00:22:58,140 --> 00:22:59,240 It's nobody's business 572 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,110 what she did with pope then or now. 573 00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:03,330 I mean, even if she has fooled around with him, 574 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,750 who does a better job around here, you? 575 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:08,660 I don't want to hear another word about it. 576 00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:11,540 And neither does tao or buzz, do you guys? 577 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Ok, guys. 578 00:23:16,050 --> 00:23:17,830 But you guys don't think that taylor 579 00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:19,890 isn't gonna have a field day with this? 580 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,250 I mean, it's bad. 581 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:27,760 I mean, if she's banging the boss,I want to know. 582 00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:30,010 Well, now that we've got that out of the way, 583 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,990 we can go on to more important matters. 584 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,580 You were close to carl nelson. 585 00:23:34,650 --> 00:23:35,650 Is that right, kendall? 586 00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:37,900 I knew him. 587 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:39,150 He went to our church, 588 00:23:39,260 --> 00:23:41,390 and I saw him a few times 589 00:23:41,470 --> 00:23:44,220 after school in father watson's classroom. 590 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,350 Well, I thought you were good friends, no? 591 00:23:47,420 --> 00:23:48,970 Not really. 592 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:50,740 That surprises me. 593 00:23:50,850 --> 00:23:52,030 Because... 594 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,340 this picture was the only one 595 00:23:55,420 --> 00:23:57,640 carl had in his room of anyone. 596 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,180 And I know that his mother just passed away. 597 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,670 I didn't give him this picture. 598 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,180 I think it's off of his cell phone or something. 599 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,070 Carl and his mom fought a lot. 600 00:24:10,150 --> 00:24:12,060 He said that she drank, 601 00:24:13,050 --> 00:24:14,350 and stuff like that. 602 00:24:14,460 --> 00:24:16,770 So he spoke with you about his home life? 603 00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:19,120 That sounds like you were pretty close to me. 604 00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:21,950 We just started spending 605 00:24:22,030 --> 00:24:23,930 more time together.Recently. 606 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,150 I mean,you know how it is. 607 00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:29,230 When you only really like someone, 608 00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:31,780 but they have a really big crush on you, 609 00:24:31,860 --> 00:24:33,730 and you don't want to hurt their feelings, 610 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,230 but you know, you just want to be friends. 611 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,210 I know exactly what that's like, yes. 612 00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:41,000 That was me and carl. 613 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:43,580 Was that you and gerald curtis as well? 614 00:24:43,650 --> 00:24:44,810 Did he have a little crush on you? 615 00:24:45,130 --> 00:24:47,190 Do you know how he got this photo? 616 00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:49,090 Actually, did you know he had this photo? 617 00:24:49,930 --> 00:24:51,150 I sent it to him. 618 00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:52,750 You were in contact with gerald? 619 00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:55,090 We all wrote to gerry.Gerald. 620 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,220 It was part of our class assignment. 621 00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:59,250 How often did you write to him? 622 00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:01,150 I don't know. 623 00:25:01,310 --> 00:25:02,530 Only a few times. 624 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,310 We didn't find any of your letters 625 00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:07,020 in gerry's cell. 626 00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:08,400 Prison mail isn't private. 627 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,150 They can read it if they want to. 628 00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:12,820 So gerry threw away all of his personal letters. 629 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,310 So the letters that you wrote to gerry 630 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:15,680 were personal? 631 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,480 No. 632 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,630 No, he 633 00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:19,150 had a small cell, 634 00:25:19,210 --> 00:25:21,380 and he didn't have a lot of room to keep things, 635 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,810 so you know,he threw away my letters. 636 00:25:26,250 --> 00:25:27,370 How do you know that? 637 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,550 Did he write you back? 638 00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:31,110 Well...yes. 639 00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:32,420 How often? 640 00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:35,020 Only a few times. 641 00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:36,830 And it was not at all personal. 642 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:39,660 Then why did you send him the photo? 643 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:43,010 It's just a school photo. 644 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,340 Is there anything wrong with that? 645 00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:47,200 Nothing. Nothing, kendall.Not one thing. 646 00:25:47,270 --> 00:25:49,010 Now do you mind if i look at the letters 647 00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:50,800 that gerry wrote you since they are 648 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,320 not at all personal? 649 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,260 I didn't save them. 650 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:56,800 I, um... 651 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,620 shredded them. 652 00:25:59,150 --> 00:26:00,590 And threw them away. 653 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,540 You shredded them? 654 00:26:02,620 --> 00:26:03,510 Well, kendall, 655 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:05,920 you certainly are careful with how you dispose 656 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,490 of your meaningless correspondence. 657 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:14,190 So just right down this hall,to the left. 658 00:26:14,270 --> 00:26:14,630 Ok. 659 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:15,850 Ok, thank you. 660 00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:19,460 So, now what? 661 00:26:19,540 --> 00:26:21,290 Let's get a search warrant for her house, 662 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,270 and let's get there before she does. 663 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:29,020 Hi. 664 00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:33,030 I still can't find my purse. 665 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:35,450 I think I should cancel my credit cards. 666 00:26:35,530 --> 00:26:37,020 What do you think? 667 00:26:38,150 --> 00:26:40,310 Did you have a bad day?What is it? 668 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:42,680 Yeah, I had a bad day. 669 00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:44,280 Did you? 670 00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:49,320 I think I need a glass of merlot. 671 00:26:51,930 --> 00:26:53,850 Yeah, well,I'm not surprised. 672 00:26:54,150 --> 00:26:55,970 That must've been a big shock. 673 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,800 Having estelle pope 674 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600 burst in on you like that. 675 00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:03,190 Dredging up the past.Making all those... 676 00:27:03,270 --> 00:27:05,300 wild accusations. 677 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:07,240 Oh, I know that look. 678 00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:09,880 You're trying to figure out how angry I am. 679 00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:11,420 So you can decide how much 680 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:12,750 you ought to explain. 681 00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:13,550 Look... 682 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:15,520 I don't know what you heard. 683 00:27:15,670 --> 00:27:17,600 But I don't like what happened today either. 684 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,030 How do you know about all this anyway? 685 00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:21,050 That's not important. 686 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:22,100 What's important 687 00:27:22,170 --> 00:27:23,130 is that estelle accused you of 688 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,600 wanting to get back together with pope. 689 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:25,660 And she wouldn't have done that 690 00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:26,650 if she didn't think it was true. 691 00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:28,060 And why does she think that? 692 00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,010 I don't know.Because it'S... 693 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,870 it's not true.It is not what I want. 694 00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:34,030 It doesn't matter what you want, brenda. 695 00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:35,130 I know what you want. 696 00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:36,910 Just like estelle knows what pope wants. 697 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:38,270 Which is why she burst in 698 00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:39,650 on your murder room today, 699 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,590 and now everybody else knows how pope feels. 700 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,910 And you're not doing anything about it. Nothing. 701 00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:45,500 You just,it just goes on. 702 00:27:45,610 --> 00:27:47,480 Well, I don't know what you want me to do. 703 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,000 I mean, I can't help how pope feels. 704 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,720 See, that's why I'm mad, brenda. 705 00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:52,430 Because you can help how pope feels 706 00:27:52,510 --> 00:27:54,480 by being absolutely clear with him. 707 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,060 I'll show you how it's done.All right, 708 00:27:57,130 --> 00:27:59,110 I will be clear about how I feel. 709 00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:00,710 I love you, brenda. 710 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:02,960 I love you. 711 00:28:05,010 --> 00:28:07,000 How was that for clarity? 712 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:02,780 Fritzy, is that you? 713 00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:07,320 Uh, chief? Chief? 714 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,940 We searched kendall price's house. 715 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:10,970 Do you need help there? 716 00:30:11,050 --> 00:30:12,280 No. No. 717 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,150 Uh, and? 718 00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:17,750 We didn't find any letters from gerald curtis. 719 00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:19,600 So maybe she really did get rid of them. 720 00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:23,300 I don't think so. 721 00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:25,590 No. 722 00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:27,320 In fact, I'd be surprised 723 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,850 if she dumped a single one. 724 00:30:29,710 --> 00:30:31,840 They may not be at her house, 725 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,260 but they might be at school. 726 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,150 So I think we should give father watson a call. 727 00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:37,450 Ok. 728 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,460 It's my locker. 729 00:30:39,530 --> 00:30:41,210 Kendall, let me handle this. 730 00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:43,570 This is a violation of the students' trust. 731 00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:44,510 I think we probably should've-- 732 00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:45,880 high school students don't have any 733 00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:47,670 reasonable expectation of privacy. 734 00:30:47,730 --> 00:30:49,400 There is no trust to violate. 735 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,820 What this boils down to,father, 736 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,240 is that I'm investigating the murder 737 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,610 of a young boy who yesterday 738 00:30:53,690 --> 00:30:55,030 you compared to jesus christ. 739 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:57,220 And now you are standing in my way here. 740 00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:59,920 Because you're using gerry's innocent love letters 741 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,560 to undue everything carl died for. 742 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,080 I guess I'm not the only one listening to confession. 743 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,290 So, you want to finish this now, father, 744 00:31:09,370 --> 00:31:10,460 or do you want us to post a guard 745 00:31:10,530 --> 00:31:11,530 around this locker while we get 746 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,550 the archdiocese involved? 747 00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:22,120 Father watson, don'T. 748 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,450 I'm sorry, kendall. 749 00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:25,300 We have no choice. 750 00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:48,840 In a timeline.February 3rd, first contact. 751 00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:50,930 March 12th,they start writing 752 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,170 each other every other day. 753 00:31:52,250 --> 00:31:53,120 Then there's the first, 754 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:54,830 I think I might love you from gerry, 755 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:57,690 march 18th,and his happiness at her having said 756 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,830 I love you back, march 23rd. 757 00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:01,980 May 2nd, he wishes some witness would 758 00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:03,650 come forward to clear his name, 759 00:32:03,730 --> 00:32:05,330 so he could get out of prison, 760 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,070 and "wrap my arms around you." 761 00:32:08,150 --> 00:32:09,330 Signed, yours in christ, 762 00:32:09,410 --> 00:32:10,980 and then,please burn this. 763 00:32:11,050 --> 00:32:12,080 And then again on may 12th, 764 00:32:12,150 --> 00:32:13,270 "I pray every night that someone 765 00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:15,450 will appear and tell the truth about what happened," 766 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,410 and then, like all the other letters, 767 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920 it's signed,yours in christ,please burn this. 768 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,250 And then,for two weeks,no letters. 769 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,500 When they start back up again, 770 00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:24,760 there's no mention of the gap. 771 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,940 It's like it never happened. 772 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,490 Then kendall's running errands for him. 773 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,440 Forwarding mail, 774 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:29,300 making phone calls, 775 00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:30,710 and then the idea of a new witness 776 00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:31,950 never pops back up. 777 00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:33,100 She was forwarding mail?To whom? 778 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:35,180 Gerald's mother in fullerton,his uncle, 779 00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:36,390 someone named stevie, 780 00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:38,300 and phone calls to him as well. 781 00:32:38,380 --> 00:32:39,600 Kendall's supposed to 782 00:32:39,670 --> 00:32:40,970 "ask if he got my letter. 783 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,050 Tell him I need a response." 784 00:32:43,130 --> 00:32:44,960 Last letter was 8 days ago. 785 00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:48,060 "Call stevie and tell him I'm coming to town, 786 00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:50,120 and I still don't know what he wants to do." 787 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,760 Did detective ross bring back 788 00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:52,650 the booking photos of known 789 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,410 perps matching carl's description? 790 00:32:54,490 --> 00:32:56,510 Yes, he said none of them were witnesses. 791 00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:58,150 Ok, let's look for someone named 792 00:32:58,220 --> 00:33:01,040 steven, steve, stevie,initial S. 793 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:02,870 Detective sanchez,would you help her with that? 794 00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:05,260 Sergeant gabriel,do we have mr. Curtis' rap sheet? 795 00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:06,860 Uh, yeah, but it's a little sketchy. 796 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:08,270 Most of his offenses were committed 797 00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:09,410 when he was a minor. 798 00:33:09,490 --> 00:33:12,310 That's ok, I just need the dates of his arrests. 799 00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:14,260 Excuse me. 800 00:33:14,370 --> 00:33:15,680 Sorry to interrupt. 801 00:33:16,350 --> 00:33:18,240 Just wanted to say a word or two 802 00:33:18,270 --> 00:33:20,220 about what happened here yesterday. 803 00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:22,790 That's not necessary,commander. Thank you. 804 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:24,680 Well, it is. 805 00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:27,710 Just had a long conversation with the chief, 806 00:33:27,790 --> 00:33:29,960 and he feels it's in the department's best interest 807 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,190 if I help put this episode 808 00:33:32,270 --> 00:33:34,030 with estelle pope behind us. 809 00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:37,400 Especially considering the success rate of your division. 810 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:41,430 And the long and the short of it is... 811 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,140 there's nothing substantive to the terrible things 812 00:33:46,210 --> 00:33:48,030 that were said about chief johnson. 813 00:33:48,530 --> 00:33:50,470 And I'm also supposed to remind everyone 814 00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:52,540 that there's a big blue line at the door in this building, 815 00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:54,870 and estelle pope crossed over it. 816 00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:56,620 And I hope we all know how to behave 817 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,700 when one of our own is falsely accused. 818 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:04,900 So...pardon me for interrupting. 819 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,620 And if you need any further 820 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:08,780 help with this problem chief johnson, 821 00:34:09,650 --> 00:34:11,040 you know where I am. 822 00:34:11,550 --> 00:34:12,800 Thank you, commander, 823 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,660 for that spontaneous defense of my honor. 824 00:34:15,770 --> 00:34:17,040 My pleasure, ma'am. 825 00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:19,020 My pleasure. 826 00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:25,190 You know they made him 827 00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:26,450 come down here and say that. 828 00:34:26,490 --> 00:34:28,050 Yes, that's exactly what happened, lieutenant. 829 00:34:28,090 --> 00:34:29,720 They agreed on their story,and they 830 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:33,100 went over what they wanted him to say. 831 00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:38,750 I, uh, found 4 steves,and 832 00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:40,700 this one, steven brand, 833 00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:44,080 arrested 8:45,october 15, 1998, 834 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,640 possession of a controlled substance 835 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:47,090 by hollywood division. 836 00:34:47,170 --> 00:34:49,980 Gerald curtis,arrested october 15, 1998, 837 00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:52,310 8:45pm, possession of a controlled substance 838 00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:53,570 by hollywood division. 839 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,700 Steven brand arrested by valley division. 840 00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:58,900 Breaking and entering,robbery,on august 3rd. 841 00:34:58,940 --> 00:35:00,040 Gerald curtis arrested by 842 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,830 valley division on august 3, 2000. 843 00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:04,350 Both sentenced to juvie for a year and a half. 844 00:35:04,420 --> 00:35:06,790 Steven and gerry were partners. 845 00:35:09,390 --> 00:35:10,650 We arrested steven brand 846 00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:12,750 and executed a search of his apartment 847 00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:14,120 and his car looking for weapons 848 00:35:14,190 --> 00:35:16,250 or any mail forwarded from folsom. 849 00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:18,670 We found what we believe to be the murder weapon, 850 00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:21,500 a 9 millimeter pistol used to kill carl nelson, 851 00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:24,180 under the driver's seat of his black honda accord. 852 00:35:24,370 --> 00:35:26,140 We also found letters to the suspect 853 00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:28,980 from gerald curtis in a lockbox under his bed. 854 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:30,620 Subsequent to the search, 855 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:31,710 we checked phone records and discovered 856 00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:34,440 that steven had received 4 phone calls from you 857 00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:35,700 kendall. 858 00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:40,420 Is this the guy gerry had you forwarding mail to? 859 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,670 As you can see,he's white, 860 00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:43,960 he's got dirty blonde hair, 861 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,170 a scar running from his mouth to his chin, 862 00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:47,430 and if he were to stand up, 863 00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:48,500 he'd be pretty tall. 864 00:35:48,570 --> 00:35:50,610 Does that description sound familiar, 865 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,810 or do you need a red bandana to jog your memory? 866 00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:55,150 Kendall. 867 00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:57,540 What'd you do? 868 00:35:57,610 --> 00:35:59,140 Nothing, father. 869 00:35:59,210 --> 00:36:00,970 I... 870 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,300 he just wanted steven to know 871 00:36:03,330 --> 00:36:04,730 that he was back in town. 872 00:36:04,890 --> 00:36:06,640 To have him come visit in jail. 873 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:08,080 They were friends, 874 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,740 and gerry said that steven was still using drugs, 875 00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:14,250 and that he wanted to talk to him 876 00:36:14,330 --> 00:36:16,690 about how sobriety had made a change in his life. 877 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,520 That's all. 878 00:36:17,590 --> 00:36:18,580 I have looked through the letters 879 00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:19,850 that gerry sent you from prison, 880 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600 and I think some of them are missing, kendall. 881 00:36:22,350 --> 00:36:23,800 You have everything. 882 00:36:24,590 --> 00:36:26,300 Look, you're making things 883 00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:27,600 very difficult for me 884 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,780 because like many hardened criminals, 885 00:36:29,860 --> 00:36:31,860 your friend steven here has asked for an attorney. 886 00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:34,930 That means we cannot question him directly. 887 00:36:35,350 --> 00:36:37,280 You've got information I need, kendall. 888 00:36:37,890 --> 00:36:39,490 And you're not telling me. 889 00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:41,130 We'd like to do this without arresting you. 890 00:36:45,730 --> 00:36:47,910 Buzz, could you please turn on that other monitor? 891 00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:48,750 Yes, ma'am. 892 00:36:50,830 --> 00:36:51,850 Gerry. 893 00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:56,620 I'm gonna give you one more run at this, kendall. 894 00:36:56,660 --> 00:36:58,520 I want you to listen very closely 895 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,970 to what gerry has to say. 896 00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:06,940 Thank you, officer. 897 00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:09,610 Ma'am, it's great to see you again. 898 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,120 You, too, gerald. 899 00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:13,500 I hope I'm not disturbing your sleep too much. 900 00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:14,330 You've got your motion 901 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,890 for a new child tomorrow, right? 902 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,070 Yes, ma'am. 903 00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:19,130 Well, you'll probably be glad to hear 904 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600 that we found the person who murdered carl nelson. 905 00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:23,260 Steven brand. 906 00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:26,540 He also matched the description that carl gave 907 00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:29,390 of the person who shot the korean couple. 908 00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:30,770 He's not talking, of course. 909 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,410 He has a lawyer. 910 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,990 Wow, that's amazing. 911 00:37:33,410 --> 00:37:35,390 When did you find him? 912 00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:36,750 Couple hours ago. 913 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:40,570 So the only thing I have left for you 914 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:43,730 is a question or two about some letters 915 00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:46,230 that we found in his apartment from you 916 00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:48,300 forwarded to him by a young girl 917 00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:49,940 by the name of kendall price. 918 00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:51,540 You know kendall. 919 00:37:51,620 --> 00:37:53,090 You kept a picture of her. 920 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,100 In your cell at folsom. 921 00:37:56,430 --> 00:37:58,330 She was one of several young ladies 922 00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:59,990 you had photographs of. 923 00:38:00,430 --> 00:38:03,330 So who are these women,by the way, 924 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,160 whose pictures you had up in your cell? 925 00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:08,810 Uh, just girls that I write to. 926 00:38:08,890 --> 00:38:12,070 Or who write to me.Some of my girlfriends. 927 00:38:12,180 --> 00:38:14,250 Was kendall one of your girlfriends? 928 00:38:15,130 --> 00:38:18,260 No. Not really.No. 929 00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:20,120 She was, uh... 930 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:21,850 too young for me. 931 00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:23,290 Really? 932 00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:25,730 That's not what you said in the letters 933 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,910 that you wrote to her. 934 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,950 Ok...look. 935 00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:32,920 I was nice to her 936 00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:34,440 because she wrote me all this... 937 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,230 like fan mail. 938 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:39,560 And I didn't want to hurt her feelings.That's all. 939 00:38:39,830 --> 00:38:41,800 Let's see if that story matches 940 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,370 what you told steven brand. 941 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,830 Your friend that kendall forwarded mail to. 942 00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:48,040 Look, here it is. 943 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:51,010 "Dear stevie, good news. 944 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,080 "One of my girlfriends, 945 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:53,680 I've mentioned her to you before, 946 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:54,870 "butterface." 947 00:38:55,650 --> 00:38:57,180 I think I know that nickname. 948 00:38:57,260 --> 00:38:58,860 Doesn't that refer to a girl 949 00:38:58,930 --> 00:39:01,730 who has a great figure but her face isn't so great? 950 00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:04,630 Maybe you meant something else by it. 951 00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,180 No? Let's go on. 952 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:09,020 "Butterface has helped me find 953 00:39:09,090 --> 00:39:11,760 "a witness to the murders I was falsely accused of. 954 00:39:11,830 --> 00:39:15,680 "His name is carl nelson,of 4503 patterson drive, 955 00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:18,420 and he's a 16-year-old boy who wears glasses. 956 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:19,630 Gosh, that sounds an awful lot like 957 00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:21,130 you did know who carl was 958 00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:22,950 before your lawyers mentioned him. 959 00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:27,050 See, this postmark was dated two weeks ago. 960 00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:30,050 Well, it's just... 961 00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:32,030 just chock-a-block with surprises. 962 00:39:32,110 --> 00:39:33,520 This letter, isn't it? 963 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,850 Well, let's go on. 964 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,900 "Carl," there's his name again, 965 00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:39,820 "was actually in the kwikmart 966 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:41,380 "when the murders took place. 967 00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:43,550 "And has just finished giving a sworn deposition 968 00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:46,680 "describing the real killer."As being a tall, blonde man 969 00:39:46,750 --> 00:39:49,420 "with a scar from his mouth to his chin. 970 00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:51,550 "I know you'll be happy to have this information. 971 00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:53,130 "Just goes to show you,doesn't it, 972 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:56,790 "that things are never over.Yours in christ. Gerry." 973 00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,800 Here's what I believe. 974 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,750 I think you had a lot of time in prison 975 00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:04,160 to plan how you might get out. 976 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:05,200 And that you corresponded 977 00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:07,390 with a lot of susceptible young women 978 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,140 who you hoped would lie for you. 979 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:10,320 Or get a friend to lie. 980 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,710 And that kendall did just that. 981 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:14,200 And you know what else I think... 982 00:40:14,270 --> 00:40:15,870 stupid, stupid girl. 983 00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:18,010 I think the description that carl gave 984 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,900 was probably that of steven brand 985 00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:21,650 who I believe drove you away 986 00:40:21,730 --> 00:40:23,530 from the kwikmart after the robberies. 987 00:40:23,610 --> 00:40:26,230 To your defense attorneys, 988 00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:28,710 you thought that steven might be scared 989 00:40:28,780 --> 00:40:29,990 into killing him. 990 00:40:30,330 --> 00:40:31,670 And you were right. 991 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:33,310 I wonder how steven will feel 992 00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:36,000 when he knows that you gave a description out? 993 00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:38,290 But you can't trust anyone these days. 994 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,770 Go to hell.I want my lawyer. 995 00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:41,920 And especially,you couldn't trust carl, 996 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,980 a 16-year-old boy who might fall to pieces 997 00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:46,150 on the witness stand,if examined too closely. 998 00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:47,590 And if I were to find out that you had written 999 00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:49,950 all that out for kendall so that she could help carl 1000 00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:52,760 make his testimony more believable, why, 1001 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,450 that would be as good as a confession. 1002 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,630 I said, go to hell. 1003 00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:59,150 You first. 1004 00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:13,030 I have the letters. 1005 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,010 I have them. 1006 00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:19,560 I talked carl into saying he was there. 1007 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,200 He had a crush on me,and I... 1008 00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:26,280 father watson,I was just trying-- 1009 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,360 oh, my god.Oh, my god, oh, my god. 1010 00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:34,700 I killed him. 1011 00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:37,480 Oh, god, I killed him. 1012 00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:48,220 I had no idea that gerry 1013 00:41:48,290 --> 00:41:49,450 had asked someone to lie for him. 1014 00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:51,070 I had no idea. None. 1015 00:41:51,570 --> 00:41:53,390 Unfortunately, father, 1016 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,320 you don't answer to me. 1017 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,990 I'm so sorry. 1018 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:33,280 So did you find gerry's other letters? 1019 00:42:33,970 --> 00:42:34,810 Yes. 1020 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,520 Kendall kept them in her bible 1021 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,580 that she got for confirmation. 1022 00:42:38,650 --> 00:42:40,390 And this is the letter 1023 00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:42,430 that really does it for gerald curtis. 1024 00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,650 Writes out the entire script for carl, 1025 00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,000 and it's filled with stuff 1026 00:42:46,070 --> 00:42:47,410 that only the shooter would know about. 1027 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,120 And it's in his own hand. 1028 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,960 All right. You think that'll convince a judge? 1029 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,800 Yeah. And he signed it yours in christ. 1030 00:42:57,900 --> 00:42:59,490 So I hope taylor's visit 1031 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,950 cleared everything up for you. 1032 00:43:01,020 --> 00:43:02,700 I hope so, too. 1033 00:43:03,470 --> 00:43:05,830 You're not mad at me about all this, are you? 1034 00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:07,550 No. It's not your fault. 1035 00:43:09,690 --> 00:43:11,900 You doing some house cleaning? 1036 00:43:11,970 --> 00:43:13,270 What? 1037 00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:15,520 Yeah--oh. 1038 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,000 Yes...just a little. 1039 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,300 Ok, all right. 1040 00:43:19,370 --> 00:43:20,380 Well, as long as we're good. 1041 00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,050 Good work. 1042 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,960 Hey! Hey! 1043 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,480 Hey, that tune you're whistling. 1044 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,120 That's the ring on my new cell phone. 1045 00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:33,810 Oh, that's what I keep forgetting to tell you. 1046 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,310 Your purse.It's in my office. 1047 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,960 You must have left it there 1048 00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:39,480 sometime this week during all the... 1049 00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:41,230 I'll go get it. 1050 00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:43,750 No, that's ok.I'll come up, and... 1051 00:43:44,050 --> 00:43:44,750 ok. 1052 00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:46,200 I have something, uh... 1053 00:43:46,810 --> 00:43:48,580 I do have something 1054 00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:49,980 I want to say to you. 1055 00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:51,470 So... 1056 00:43:52,070 --> 00:43:53,340 will you wait? 1057 00:43:53,420 --> 00:43:54,430 Sure. 1058 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:55,610 Ok.But you don't have to 1059 00:43:55,690 --> 00:43:58,200 say anything. 1060 00:43:58,270 --> 00:44:00,980 I mean...is it about us? 1061 00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:04,180 Well, uh... 1062 00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:06,000 'cause we're, you know,we're good. 1063 00:44:08,290 --> 00:44:12,290 I, uh, I know, brenda. 1064 00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:15,130 I get it. 1065 00:44:15,590 --> 00:44:16,880 We're good. 1066 00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:19,320 So you gonna be long? 1067 00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:21,280 I'll...just be a minute. 1068 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,270 Ok. 1069 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:23,850 All right, great. 1070 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,660 Sync:YTET-Vicky8800 1071 00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:31,600 -=www.ydy.com/bbs=- 1072 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 1073 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 1074 00:00:01,305 --> 00:01:01,361 Please rate this subtitle at www.osdb.link/49a6r Help other users to choose the best subtitles 74796

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