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thank you sergeant.
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hi,chief.
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so our victim's name is called Carl Nelson
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16 years old,high school junior.
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He's riding his bicycle to school
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when unknown sailing
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shot him four times with an 0.90 metre weapon
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on a slow-moving car
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Where're the victim's parents?
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****
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can't find my purse,can't get my cellphone***
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you lost your purse?
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okay,i don't lose it.sergeant
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i just can't remember where i put it.
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******
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don't look like a game member
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no,***
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****
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He shouldn't be on the street.
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Sir, we can go inside.
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Perhaps you can show me carl's room.
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There might be something in there.
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I'm not leaving carl on the street by himself like that.
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No! This is what happens
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from doing the right thing.
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Richard, you cannot think that.
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This! This!
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You stay here with your son.
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I'll show them through the house.
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I'll show you through the house.
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All right, then.
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If you're looking for drugs or weapons,
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you're wasting your time.
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Carl wasn't that kind of a boy.
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You were close to him?
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Yes. Yes, I was.
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I counseled his mother when she was dying
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of cancer last january,and carl would...
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stop by my classroom sometimes.
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You were one of his teachers then?
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No. He went to a public school,
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but he knew a lot of the kids at
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our lady queen of peace
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because he's very involved in our church.
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Is this carl's girlfriend?
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Kendall price.
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More like buddies.
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She's in my civics class.
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So when carl's father said
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this is what comes of doing the right thing,
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he was referring to
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testimony carl was about to give in the case of...
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gerald curtis and his motion for a new trial.
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Yes, but I can't imagine
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that carl would've been killed over that.
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Really? Can you think of another reason
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someone would drive by his house
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and shoot him to death?
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Do you know what carl had to say
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that was important enough to
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get mr. Curtis a new trial?
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I know he gave a taped deposition
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to defense attorneys.
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A couple of weeks ago.
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Carl, can you tell us about the events
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you witnessed at the kwikmart on june 21, 2003?
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It was really hot,
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so I stopped to get a soda.
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And then this really tall guy came in,
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I mean, like,
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way over 6 feet easy.
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And he was wearing
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a red bandanna on his face.
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Like a robber in an old western or something.
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At first, I didn't know what he was doing,
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but then he pulled a gun.
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And he shouted at us to all lie down
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and not look at him.
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And, uh...
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the husband and wife that
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owned the store, koreans,
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they were behind the counter.
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And the robber guy yelled at them
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to open the register.
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But the husband wouldn'T.
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I mean, he started arguing with him,
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and then just, boom!
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The guy just shot him.
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You mind pausing the tape please?
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Yes, sir.
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Chief johnson.
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Mr. Garnett.
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Thanks for moving so quick.
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You know how glad we are
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to cooperate with the D.A.'S office.
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Right.
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This is gerald curtis.
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This is the man convicted of killing
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the two owners of the kwikmart
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you just heard about.
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Now, listen to carl's description of the assailant.
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Yeah.
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Like I said, he was
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way taller than me.
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I don't know, maybe 6'1", 6'2".
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And blonde hair.
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But not like light blonde,
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like in between,like darker.
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And, uh...it was pale.
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Not old, either.
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Like maybe 20.
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And when he was emptying the register
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and his bandana fell down,
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he had this, like, scar running right here.
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Why are you just coming forward now, carl?
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Father watson's class put up
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all these fliers asking for witnesses.
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And I knew gerald curtis was about to die.
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So I decided,
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I had to do something.
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Buzz, thank you.
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Father watson,he's the priest that took us
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through carl's room.
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And gerald curtis said he was innocent all along?
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Yeah, but they all do that.
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Lawyers for the freedom initiative
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took him very seriously.
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Also, in complete frankness,
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gerald's first attorney was not so hot,
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so if we've got the wrong guy in line
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for lethal injection,I want to know about it chief johnson.
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Given curtis' record,it made sense he did those murders.
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Two people put him in the store
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at the time of the murders,
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and he never denied being there.
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Also, in fairness,until we heard the deposition,
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we weren't sure in which order
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the victims were shot.
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So his testimony is very good.
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And now he's dead.
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Which looks to me
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like somebody didn't want him in court.
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And it also makes it a lot harder for you
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to get another conviction.
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And we all know how much you hate to lose,mr. Garnett.
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Well, it's gonna be hard to cross-examine
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a videotape on the stand.
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So who exactly knew that carl was
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coming forward with this information?
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Me. Gerald curtis' new defense team.
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Carl, of course,his dad, father watson,
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his students, members of carl's church,
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and probably curtis himself.
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In other words, the entire state of california.
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Including our killer.
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Maybe carl didn't just describe the guy
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who killed the koreans at the kwikmart.
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His own murderer as well.
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Chief johnson.
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A moment.
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A little good news.
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I paid most of the ransom estelle wanted,
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and I have complete custody of my kids.
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Oh...that's wonderful.
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Oh, congratulations.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for your testimony.
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You stuck your neck out,
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and that really meant a lot.
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Oh, no problem.
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Chief?
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Dinner's here.
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Oh, coming.
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Uh, I'll think of a more appropriate way
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to thank you later.
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Don'T. Don'T.
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It's my good deed for the year.
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Oh, and there was something else I wanted,
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it was kind of important,what was it, um...
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can it wait?
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Sure, yeah.
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Yeah, I can't think of it anyway.
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Yeah, we'll talk later.
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Ok.
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2 weeks ago,this carl kid records his testimony.
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And then 3 days before he gets to court,
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where the deputy D.A.Can cross-examine him,
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someone blows the boy away.
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Doesn't that sound a little coincidental?
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I don't believe in coincidence.
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So let's take the systematic approach.
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Has anyone seen my purse?
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I looked in my office and my car,
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and where are my keys?
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Ok, good.
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Keys, lipstick.What else?
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Daniels and I could pull the booking photos
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of everyone with assault charges
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who match a description in carl's deposition.
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That would be white males,
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under 30, over 6 feet with a scar from
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the mouth to the chin.
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Ok, sounds good.
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How far back do you want us to go?
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Uh, let's start a year before the kwikmart murders
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and take it through to today,
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and then, lieutenant tao,
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if you could follow up on the casings and bullets
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that were in carl's body,
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see if we're lucky enough to have any of them
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match up with the gun that killed that korean couple.
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Because if we are,detective sanchez,
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I think someone else might have seen carl's killer.
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Who's that?
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Gerald curtis.
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He's visiting L.A. Right now
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to appear at his motion for a new trial
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which means that the contents of his cell
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at folsom have been vaulted.
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We need a search warrant to go through them.
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See if you can manage that
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and have his things overnighted to us.Thank you.
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And then while we're waiting,
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let's put together a removal order
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and send it over to our new friends
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over at the da's office
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because tomorrow morning,
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gerald curtis is gonna have to tell us
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his side of the story.
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Listen, uh...
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do you think the two of you could look
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for my purse? It's big and it's black.
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Trust us, chief.
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We know what your purse looks like.
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Ok, thank you.
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It's got my license in it,and my credit cards,
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my ammunition clip,my phone.
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Brand new cell phone.
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It's got a ring.
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Um, have you tried calling it?
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Hundreds of times.
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It's just, please see if you can find it.
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I am losing my ability to function.
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Thank you, officer.
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Gerald curtis.
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I'm deputy chief johnson.
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I'm sorry to put you
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through transport from county.
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That's no problem.
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I loved the trip.
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Did detective sanchez
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reappraise you of your rights?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And, uh...
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I'm not sure
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how much I can tell you without my lawyer.
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I'm not investigating the kwikmart murders.
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I'm looking into who killed carl nelson
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yesterday afternoon,
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and you're not a suspect in that crime,
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so you don't need a lawyer.
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And from those chains you're wearing,
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I'm guessing that you had a pretty good alibi.
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Yes, ma'am, I do.
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You know, more than that,
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I really needed him alive,
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but I'M...
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trying not to think about it so selfishly.
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All I keep thinking about
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is how close I came to having a new trial,
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and now...I don't know.
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But on the other hand,
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you know,I only made it this far
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because the kid stood up for me.
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I guess I should do the same for him,
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but I'm not really sure what I can tell you.
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Well, did you ever meet him?
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Carl?
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No. No, I didn't even know his name
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until my lawyers told me about him a couple of days ago.
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You tell anyone in prison about carl?
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Any of your friends?
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I don't have any friends
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in prison, ma'am.
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And no,
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I didn't tell anyone.
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You know, I mean,that was something
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that my lawyers and father watson
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warned me not to do.
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You were in touch with father watson personally?
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Yeah.
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Well, a little.
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Through the freedom initiative.
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I was, like,
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a project for his class.
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You know,it was a good thing for me.
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It's a really good thing because
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carl came forward.
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And I mean,
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you know, I know that in some ways,
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I didn't deserve a second chance.
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Oh, excuse me.
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I keep thinking about myself.
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And I know that that's wrong.I'm sorry.
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You're disappointed.That's understandable.
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I am.
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I am, because...
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I'm different now.You know?
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I mean, I admit, I admit
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I made a lot of mistakes when I was young.
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But the reward
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for change isn't freedom,it's, uh...
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supposed to be spiritual.
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At least that's what my priests tell me.
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So maybe I've been wishing
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for the wrong thing anyway.
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Sorry, how else can I help?
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You said you were in the kwikmart
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during the killings,and I was wondering if
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you might have remembered
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anything about the gunman.
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You may have to revoke your right
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to counsel to answer that question.
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Thank you.
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Oh...
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I have been waiting years
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for somebody to ask me that question.
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I can answer you without my lawyers.
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I'll just, I'll go ahead and just
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tell you what I told them, ok?
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I appreciate that.
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I was...
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I was high on pcp at the time.
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I wasn't even sure what the guy was doing really
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probably because he had this, uh...
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handkerchief, you know,tied around his face.
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It looked like a joke,
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you know, but he had a gun,
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and he told everybody to put our heads down.
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I thought, you know,in case this isn't a dream,
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I better stare at the floor.
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Uh, what else.
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He was really tall.
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He had lighter hair than mine.I remember that.
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You have any idea
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why two of the witnesses
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thought that you were the killer?
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I hadn't showered in a couple of days.
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And I was...
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out of my mind.
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Soon as the guy left,I ran up to the counter,
355
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and if people had looked up
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then, they would've seen me
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taking all the beef jerky.
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It's so stupid,I stuffed it in my pants.
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I thought, you know,
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free stuff.
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And he's been paying for it ever since.
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Which made him ideal for me to introduce
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to my civics class,the freedom initiative.
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Chief.
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We got the report back on the casings.
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The gun that killed carl,
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completely different from the one used at kwikmart.
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Ok, so it won't be easy.
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Thank you,lieutenant tao.
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But you knew gerald before his arrest.
371
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No.
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But I was looking for someone just like him.
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Really, why?
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I want my students to see from personal experience
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that injustice can be found in
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their very own neighborhood
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and maybe even at the kwikmart, and,
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that the consequences of that injustice
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could be life and death.
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Well, I'd say you made that
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point very clear, father.This way.
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Have a seat.
383
00:15:51,150 --> 00:15:53,550
But carl wasn't one of your students, though.
384
00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:55,220
No. No, he wasn'T.
385
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So how did he become involved
386
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in giving mr. Curtis a new trial?
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00:15:58,530 --> 00:15:59,560
I called the freedom initiative
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to see what they were doing in our area,
389
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and they sent over copies of everything
390
00:16:02,450 --> 00:16:03,980
they'd obtained from gerald's trial,
391
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and I noticed,
392
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from the timestamp of the kwikmart's register
393
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that about 15 people had come in and out of the store
394
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minutes maybe even seconds
395
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before the murders took place.
396
00:16:12,890 --> 00:16:14,910
But the lapd only interviewed 4 of those people.
397
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So we papered the neighborhood
398
00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,650
looking for a witness that the police might have missed.
399
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And the person who finally turned up
400
00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,000
just happened to be someone you knew.
401
00:16:22,580 --> 00:16:26,190
Didn't that strike you as...coincidental?
402
00:16:26,270 --> 00:16:28,310
Struck me as a miracle,ms. Johnson.
403
00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,610
You saw carl's testimony.
404
00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,970
Didn't you find it compelling?
405
00:16:33,190 --> 00:16:35,050
I found it convenient.
406
00:16:35,130 --> 00:16:36,190
Excuse me?
407
00:16:36,270 --> 00:16:38,230
Carl nelson,a young boy,
408
00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:40,210
who with whom you were extremely familiar,
409
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,330
suddenly turns up with crucial,
410
00:16:43,410 --> 00:16:45,350
never before heard information
411
00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:48,390
about a murder involving a death row inmate
412
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that you had made the personal cause of your class.
413
00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:53,780
Soon after the boy gives his video deposition,
414
00:16:53,860 --> 00:16:56,550
he is conveniently shot to death
415
00:16:56,630 --> 00:16:58,680
before the prosecution has a chance to question him.
416
00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,700
A young man performed an act
417
00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:03,850
or rare moral courage.
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He stood up for the most powerless
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and needy in society.
420
00:17:07,580 --> 00:17:09,140
And he was senselessly murdered for it.
421
00:17:09,220 --> 00:17:10,790
I don't find it convenient, ms. Johnson,
422
00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:12,630
because it's also the story of christ.
423
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:14,800
The foundation of my faith.
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00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:18,130
Which is not to say that I am any
425
00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,750
less than horrified by carl's death.
426
00:17:21,970 --> 00:17:25,440
But now it's a responsibility to make sure
427
00:17:25,860 --> 00:17:28,440
that gerald curtis receives the benefit
428
00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:30,360
of carl's sacrifice, isn't it?
429
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:33,900
That is not my job,father.No.
430
00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:37,750
My responsibility is to find and arrest
431
00:17:38,050 --> 00:17:40,190
the person who killed carl nelson.
432
00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:42,970
So, unless you can think of any other connection,
433
00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,190
between your work and carl's death.
434
00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:47,700
No.
435
00:17:54,170 --> 00:17:56,100
I wonder, ms. Johnson.
436
00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,550
Do you believe in god?
437
00:17:59,860 --> 00:18:01,970
Right now,I believe in god a whole lot more
438
00:18:02,010 --> 00:18:04,000
than I believe you,father.
439
00:18:06,860 --> 00:18:08,730
We looked at the register tape, too.
440
00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,270
Asked for witnesses on the news,
441
00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:11,740
only so many responded.
442
00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:13,870
And when it comes to this carl nelson kid,
443
00:18:13,950 --> 00:18:15,890
summers in L.A.,We got more stray
444
00:18:15,970 --> 00:18:16,960
bullets than rain.
445
00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:18,830
You're suggesting that 4 bullets strayed
446
00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:20,510
into carl nelson's chest?
447
00:18:20,590 --> 00:18:22,210
The wrong kid may have been hit. Yeah.
448
00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,150
His death could be completely random.
449
00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:25,450
What physical evidence
450
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,310
do you have suggesting otherwise?
451
00:18:27,390 --> 00:18:28,800
Well, you might try investigating.
452
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,610
Look, we are not being defensive about it.
453
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,010
It's possible, too,that detective ross
454
00:18:33,090 --> 00:18:34,940
did everything right in his investigation
455
00:18:35,010 --> 00:18:37,150
and the D.A. Convicted the wrong man.
456
00:18:37,230 --> 00:18:38,460
If you know what you want to do,
457
00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:39,560
we're here to help.
458
00:18:39,630 --> 00:18:42,410
If gerald curtis didn't kill that couple at the kwikmart,
459
00:18:42,530 --> 00:18:43,630
it's possible that someone
460
00:18:43,710 --> 00:18:46,220
passing themselves off as one of the witnesses did.
461
00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:48,010
Did anyone who testified
462
00:18:48,090 --> 00:18:50,200
or that you interviewed,detective ross,
463
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,450
match the description that carl gave of the killer?
464
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,120
It's been awhile.I don't remember exactly,
465
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,260
but, twenties, white, tall,male, blonde, a scar.
466
00:18:58,330 --> 00:19:00,120
Doesn't narrow downvery much, does it?
467
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:00,960
You think?
468
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,240
So far, we found 323 men with priors
469
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:05,300
who could be the assailant.
470
00:19:05,380 --> 00:19:06,370
We're still running more searches,
471
00:19:06,450 --> 00:19:08,660
but I've got their booking numbers,their photos, so...
472
00:19:08,770 --> 00:19:10,100
ok, detective ross,if you could look through
473
00:19:10,170 --> 00:19:12,190
those people with us.See if you recognize any--
474
00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:13,020
where is she?
475
00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:15,580
Mrs. Pope, who are you looking for?
476
00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:16,800
You know who.
477
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,470
Where is she?
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00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:21,790
Estelle.Hello.
479
00:19:21,890 --> 00:19:23,040
Can I help you?
480
00:19:25,050 --> 00:19:27,880
Ok, we have the contents of gerald curtis' cell.
481
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,030
Excuse me.
482
00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:33,390
Estelle, why don't we go into my office.
483
00:19:33,470 --> 00:19:35,070
I don't need to go into your office.
484
00:19:35,180 --> 00:19:36,320
I just came by to say
485
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,530
that if you think that now that my husband is free,
486
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,450
your gonna pick up your little affair with him
487
00:19:41,530 --> 00:19:42,640
where you left off,
488
00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:44,790
and take over as the mother of my children,
489
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:46,850
you had better think again.
490
00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:50,240
I'll take care of this.
491
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,810
Maybe we should continue this--
492
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,820
get your hands off of me.
493
00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:57,220
And don't you ever even step into my house,
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I am warning you.
495
00:19:58,540 --> 00:19:59,680
Because if I find out
496
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,620
that you are sleeping with will again,
497
00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:03,510
I will reopen this custody issue,
498
00:20:03,610 --> 00:20:05,850
and I am not kidding.
499
00:20:17,450 --> 00:20:18,690
Sorry.
500
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,550
Sorry.
501
00:20:23,650 --> 00:20:27,330
Sorry,about that, uh...little interruption.
502
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,650
Detective sanchez,is that the...
503
00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:32,480
contents of mr. Curtis' cell?
504
00:20:33,050 --> 00:20:34,990
Uh, yes, ma'am.Straight from folsom.
505
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:37,660
So if we could maybe get organized a little.
506
00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:39,490
Um, sergeant gabriel,
507
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,110
and detective daniels,
508
00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:42,950
if you could pass the booking photos off to
509
00:20:43,060 --> 00:20:45,130
detective ross,and he could look through them
510
00:20:45,220 --> 00:20:46,720
and see if there's anyone he recognizes,
511
00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:48,730
and then maybe lieutenant flynn--
512
00:20:48,810 --> 00:20:49,530
wait a minute.
513
00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:51,060
You mean,we're not gonna talk about
514
00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:52,130
what just happened?
515
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,220
No, I don't,I don't think so. No.
516
00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:55,140
Chief, listen--
517
00:20:55,250 --> 00:20:56,210
if you could look through--
518
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,120
chief, wait, one second.
519
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:59,700
Did you go deaf all of a sudden?She said, no.
520
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,620
So you want us to go through the boxes.
521
00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:04,510
Yes, and, um...
522
00:21:04,590 --> 00:21:05,770
chief pope.
523
00:21:06,420 --> 00:21:07,410
Chief pope.
524
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:11,260
And if, um,someone could please
525
00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:13,250
set up some interviews,
526
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,720
with the old witnesses from the kwikmart,
527
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,990
to see if any of them...
528
00:21:18,170 --> 00:21:19,840
are tall and blonde.
529
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,240
Excuse me,just one moment.
530
00:21:22,810 --> 00:21:23,760
Chief pope.
531
00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:26,710
I can take care of this.
532
00:21:26,790 --> 00:21:28,870
What have you been telling estelle?
533
00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:30,110
Why does she hate me so much?
534
00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:32,230
Estelle is angry about the terms of our divorce.
535
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:34,250
She's guilty about having basically sold
536
00:21:34,330 --> 00:21:35,930
our children because her husband to be
537
00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:37,770
doesn't want them.She's lashing out at me.
538
00:21:37,850 --> 00:21:39,190
At you? My god.
539
00:21:39,260 --> 00:21:40,480
I may have just lost the respect
540
00:21:40,550 --> 00:21:41,730
of everyone who works here.
541
00:21:41,810 --> 00:21:43,220
Look,before you were hired,
542
00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,230
I made a full disclosure to the chief
543
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:45,910
about our previous relationship.
544
00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:48,400
What? You told the chief we had an affair?
545
00:21:49,770 --> 00:21:51,900
Oh...god...
546
00:21:53,130 --> 00:21:55,380
is that the thing you forgot to tell me last night?
547
00:21:55,470 --> 00:21:56,750
No, no, no.That was about,
548
00:21:57,150 --> 00:21:59,260
I don't know.I forget what I forgot to tell you,
549
00:21:59,330 --> 00:22:01,050
but look, it's not as important as this.
550
00:22:01,190 --> 00:22:02,760
I will manage the fallout from estelle.
551
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,980
Give me a day,I'll take care of it.
552
00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:05,300
How am I supposed to go back in there
553
00:22:05,380 --> 00:22:06,290
and face my people?
554
00:22:06,370 --> 00:22:08,310
Chief, we found something you should see.
555
00:22:08,670 --> 00:22:09,660
Ok.
556
00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:13,810
Excuse me.
557
00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:20,450
These are gerald curtis' pen pals.
558
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,770
This is kendall price.
559
00:22:23,340 --> 00:22:24,500
Look familiar?
560
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:32,030
The same kendall price from carl's bedroom.
561
00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:35,000
I think I'd like to see this girl in person.
562
00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:42,710
Kendall, deputy chief brenda leigh johnson.
563
00:22:42,780 --> 00:22:44,190
And this is sergeant gabriel.
564
00:22:44,910 --> 00:22:46,470
Now, I don't want to scare you,
565
00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:48,720
but everyone who comes into this room...
566
00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:50,580
I'll tell you why it matters.
567
00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:53,230
Because if pope pulled her into our department
568
00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:54,460
because she's his ex,
569
00:22:54,530 --> 00:22:55,850
I mean, come on,how does that sound?
570
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,020
I don't give a flying you know what.
571
00:22:58,140 --> 00:22:59,240
It's nobody's business
572
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,110
what she did with pope then or now.
573
00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:03,330
I mean, even if she has fooled around with him,
574
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,750
who does a better job around here, you?
575
00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:08,660
I don't want to hear another word about it.
576
00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:11,540
And neither does tao or buzz, do you guys?
577
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,560
Ok, guys.
578
00:23:16,050 --> 00:23:17,830
But you guys don't think that taylor
579
00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:19,890
isn't gonna have a field day with this?
580
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,250
I mean, it's bad.
581
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:27,760
I mean, if she's banging the boss,I want to know.
582
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:30,010
Well, now that we've got that out of the way,
583
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,990
we can go on to more important matters.
584
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,580
You were close to carl nelson.
585
00:23:34,650 --> 00:23:35,650
Is that right, kendall?
586
00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:37,900
I knew him.
587
00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:39,150
He went to our church,
588
00:23:39,260 --> 00:23:41,390
and I saw him a few times
589
00:23:41,470 --> 00:23:44,220
after school in father watson's classroom.
590
00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,350
Well, I thought you were good friends, no?
591
00:23:47,420 --> 00:23:48,970
Not really.
592
00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:50,740
That surprises me.
593
00:23:50,850 --> 00:23:52,030
Because...
594
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,340
this picture was the only one
595
00:23:55,420 --> 00:23:57,640
carl had in his room of anyone.
596
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,180
And I know that his mother just passed away.
597
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,670
I didn't give him this picture.
598
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,180
I think it's off of his cell phone or something.
599
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,070
Carl and his mom fought a lot.
600
00:24:10,150 --> 00:24:12,060
He said that she drank,
601
00:24:13,050 --> 00:24:14,350
and stuff like that.
602
00:24:14,460 --> 00:24:16,770
So he spoke with you about his home life?
603
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:19,120
That sounds like you were pretty close to me.
604
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:21,950
We just started spending
605
00:24:22,030 --> 00:24:23,930
more time together.Recently.
606
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,150
I mean,you know how it is.
607
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:29,230
When you only really like someone,
608
00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:31,780
but they have a really big crush on you,
609
00:24:31,860 --> 00:24:33,730
and you don't want to hurt their feelings,
610
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,230
but you know, you just want to be friends.
611
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,210
I know exactly what that's like, yes.
612
00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:41,000
That was me and carl.
613
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:43,580
Was that you and gerald curtis as well?
614
00:24:43,650 --> 00:24:44,810
Did he have a little crush on you?
615
00:24:45,130 --> 00:24:47,190
Do you know how he got this photo?
616
00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:49,090
Actually, did you know he had this photo?
617
00:24:49,930 --> 00:24:51,150
I sent it to him.
618
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:52,750
You were in contact with gerald?
619
00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:55,090
We all wrote to gerry.Gerald.
620
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,220
It was part of our class assignment.
621
00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:59,250
How often did you write to him?
622
00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:01,150
I don't know.
623
00:25:01,310 --> 00:25:02,530
Only a few times.
624
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,310
We didn't find any of your letters
625
00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:07,020
in gerry's cell.
626
00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:08,400
Prison mail isn't private.
627
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,150
They can read it if they want to.
628
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:12,820
So gerry threw away all of his personal letters.
629
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,310
So the letters that you wrote to gerry
630
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:15,680
were personal?
631
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,480
No.
632
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,630
No, he
633
00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:19,150
had a small cell,
634
00:25:19,210 --> 00:25:21,380
and he didn't have a lot of room to keep things,
635
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,810
so you know,he threw away my letters.
636
00:25:26,250 --> 00:25:27,370
How do you know that?
637
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,550
Did he write you back?
638
00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:31,110
Well...yes.
639
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:32,420
How often?
640
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:35,020
Only a few times.
641
00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:36,830
And it was not at all personal.
642
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:39,660
Then why did you send him the photo?
643
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:43,010
It's just a school photo.
644
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,340
Is there anything wrong with that?
645
00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:47,200
Nothing. Nothing, kendall.Not one thing.
646
00:25:47,270 --> 00:25:49,010
Now do you mind if i look at the letters
647
00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:50,800
that gerry wrote you since they are
648
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,320
not at all personal?
649
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,260
I didn't save them.
650
00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:56,800
I, um...
651
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,620
shredded them.
652
00:25:59,150 --> 00:26:00,590
And threw them away.
653
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,540
You shredded them?
654
00:26:02,620 --> 00:26:03,510
Well, kendall,
655
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:05,920
you certainly are careful with how you dispose
656
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,490
of your meaningless correspondence.
657
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:14,190
So just right down this hall,to the left.
658
00:26:14,270 --> 00:26:14,630
Ok.
659
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:15,850
Ok, thank you.
660
00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:19,460
So, now what?
661
00:26:19,540 --> 00:26:21,290
Let's get a search warrant for her house,
662
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,270
and let's get there before she does.
663
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:29,020
Hi.
664
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:33,030
I still can't find my purse.
665
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:35,450
I think I should cancel my credit cards.
666
00:26:35,530 --> 00:26:37,020
What do you think?
667
00:26:38,150 --> 00:26:40,310
Did you have a bad day?What is it?
668
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:42,680
Yeah, I had a bad day.
669
00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:44,280
Did you?
670
00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:49,320
I think I need a glass of merlot.
671
00:26:51,930 --> 00:26:53,850
Yeah, well,I'm not surprised.
672
00:26:54,150 --> 00:26:55,970
That must've been a big shock.
673
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,800
Having estelle pope
674
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600
burst in on you like that.
675
00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:03,190
Dredging up the past.Making all those...
676
00:27:03,270 --> 00:27:05,300
wild accusations.
677
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:07,240
Oh, I know that look.
678
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:09,880
You're trying to figure out how angry I am.
679
00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:11,420
So you can decide how much
680
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:12,750
you ought to explain.
681
00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:13,550
Look...
682
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:15,520
I don't know what you heard.
683
00:27:15,670 --> 00:27:17,600
But I don't like what happened today either.
684
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,030
How do you know about all this anyway?
685
00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:21,050
That's not important.
686
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:22,100
What's important
687
00:27:22,170 --> 00:27:23,130
is that estelle accused you of
688
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,600
wanting to get back together with pope.
689
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:25,660
And she wouldn't have done that
690
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:26,650
if she didn't think it was true.
691
00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:28,060
And why does she think that?
692
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,010
I don't know.Because it'S...
693
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,870
it's not true.It is not what I want.
694
00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:34,030
It doesn't matter what you want, brenda.
695
00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:35,130
I know what you want.
696
00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:36,910
Just like estelle knows what pope wants.
697
00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:38,270
Which is why she burst in
698
00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:39,650
on your murder room today,
699
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,590
and now everybody else knows how pope feels.
700
00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,910
And you're not doing anything about it. Nothing.
701
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:45,500
You just,it just goes on.
702
00:27:45,610 --> 00:27:47,480
Well, I don't know what you want me to do.
703
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,000
I mean, I can't help how pope feels.
704
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,720
See, that's why I'm mad, brenda.
705
00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:52,430
Because you can help how pope feels
706
00:27:52,510 --> 00:27:54,480
by being absolutely clear with him.
707
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,060
I'll show you how it's done.All right,
708
00:27:57,130 --> 00:27:59,110
I will be clear about how I feel.
709
00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:00,710
I love you, brenda.
710
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:02,960
I love you.
711
00:28:05,010 --> 00:28:07,000
How was that for clarity?
712
00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:02,780
Fritzy, is that you?
713
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:07,320
Uh, chief? Chief?
714
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,940
We searched kendall price's house.
715
00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:10,970
Do you need help there?
716
00:30:11,050 --> 00:30:12,280
No. No.
717
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,150
Uh, and?
718
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:17,750
We didn't find any letters from gerald curtis.
719
00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:19,600
So maybe she really did get rid of them.
720
00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:23,300
I don't think so.
721
00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:25,590
No.
722
00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:27,320
In fact, I'd be surprised
723
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,850
if she dumped a single one.
724
00:30:29,710 --> 00:30:31,840
They may not be at her house,
725
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,260
but they might be at school.
726
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,150
So I think we should give father watson a call.
727
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:37,450
Ok.
728
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,460
It's my locker.
729
00:30:39,530 --> 00:30:41,210
Kendall, let me handle this.
730
00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:43,570
This is a violation of the students' trust.
731
00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:44,510
I think we probably should've--
732
00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:45,880
high school students don't have any
733
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:47,670
reasonable expectation of privacy.
734
00:30:47,730 --> 00:30:49,400
There is no trust to violate.
735
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,820
What this boils down to,father,
736
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,240
is that I'm investigating the murder
737
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,610
of a young boy who yesterday
738
00:30:53,690 --> 00:30:55,030
you compared to jesus christ.
739
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:57,220
And now you are standing in my way here.
740
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:59,920
Because you're using gerry's innocent love letters
741
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,560
to undue everything carl died for.
742
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,080
I guess I'm not the only one listening to confession.
743
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,290
So, you want to finish this now, father,
744
00:31:09,370 --> 00:31:10,460
or do you want us to post a guard
745
00:31:10,530 --> 00:31:11,530
around this locker while we get
746
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,550
the archdiocese involved?
747
00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:22,120
Father watson, don'T.
748
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,450
I'm sorry, kendall.
749
00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:25,300
We have no choice.
750
00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:48,840
In a timeline.February 3rd, first contact.
751
00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:50,930
March 12th,they start writing
752
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,170
each other every other day.
753
00:31:52,250 --> 00:31:53,120
Then there's the first,
754
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:54,830
I think I might love you from gerry,
755
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:57,690
march 18th,and his happiness at her having said
756
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,830
I love you back, march 23rd.
757
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:01,980
May 2nd, he wishes some witness would
758
00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:03,650
come forward to clear his name,
759
00:32:03,730 --> 00:32:05,330
so he could get out of prison,
760
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,070
and "wrap my arms around you."
761
00:32:08,150 --> 00:32:09,330
Signed, yours in christ,
762
00:32:09,410 --> 00:32:10,980
and then,please burn this.
763
00:32:11,050 --> 00:32:12,080
And then again on may 12th,
764
00:32:12,150 --> 00:32:13,270
"I pray every night that someone
765
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:15,450
will appear and tell the truth about what happened,"
766
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,410
and then, like all the other letters,
767
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920
it's signed,yours in christ,please burn this.
768
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,250
And then,for two weeks,no letters.
769
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,500
When they start back up again,
770
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:24,760
there's no mention of the gap.
771
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,940
It's like it never happened.
772
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,490
Then kendall's running errands for him.
773
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Forwarding mail,
774
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:29,300
making phone calls,
775
00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:30,710
and then the idea of a new witness
776
00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:31,950
never pops back up.
777
00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:33,100
She was forwarding mail?To whom?
778
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:35,180
Gerald's mother in fullerton,his uncle,
779
00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:36,390
someone named stevie,
780
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:38,300
and phone calls to him as well.
781
00:32:38,380 --> 00:32:39,600
Kendall's supposed to
782
00:32:39,670 --> 00:32:40,970
"ask if he got my letter.
783
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,050
Tell him I need a response."
784
00:32:43,130 --> 00:32:44,960
Last letter was 8 days ago.
785
00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:48,060
"Call stevie and tell him I'm coming to town,
786
00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:50,120
and I still don't know what he wants to do."
787
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Did detective ross bring back
788
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:52,650
the booking photos of known
789
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,410
perps matching carl's description?
790
00:32:54,490 --> 00:32:56,510
Yes, he said none of them were witnesses.
791
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:58,150
Ok, let's look for someone named
792
00:32:58,220 --> 00:33:01,040
steven, steve, stevie,initial S.
793
00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:02,870
Detective sanchez,would you help her with that?
794
00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:05,260
Sergeant gabriel,do we have mr. Curtis' rap sheet?
795
00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:06,860
Uh, yeah, but it's a little sketchy.
796
00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:08,270
Most of his offenses were committed
797
00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:09,410
when he was a minor.
798
00:33:09,490 --> 00:33:12,310
That's ok, I just need the dates of his arrests.
799
00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:14,260
Excuse me.
800
00:33:14,370 --> 00:33:15,680
Sorry to interrupt.
801
00:33:16,350 --> 00:33:18,240
Just wanted to say a word or two
802
00:33:18,270 --> 00:33:20,220
about what happened here yesterday.
803
00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:22,790
That's not necessary,commander. Thank you.
804
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:24,680
Well, it is.
805
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:27,710
Just had a long conversation with the chief,
806
00:33:27,790 --> 00:33:29,960
and he feels it's in the department's best interest
807
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,190
if I help put this episode
808
00:33:32,270 --> 00:33:34,030
with estelle pope behind us.
809
00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:37,400
Especially considering the success rate of your division.
810
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:41,430
And the long and the short of it is...
811
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,140
there's nothing substantive to the terrible things
812
00:33:46,210 --> 00:33:48,030
that were said about chief johnson.
813
00:33:48,530 --> 00:33:50,470
And I'm also supposed to remind everyone
814
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:52,540
that there's a big blue line at the door in this building,
815
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:54,870
and estelle pope crossed over it.
816
00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:56,620
And I hope we all know how to behave
817
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,700
when one of our own is falsely accused.
818
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:04,900
So...pardon me for interrupting.
819
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,620
And if you need any further
820
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:08,780
help with this problem chief johnson,
821
00:34:09,650 --> 00:34:11,040
you know where I am.
822
00:34:11,550 --> 00:34:12,800
Thank you, commander,
823
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,660
for that spontaneous defense of my honor.
824
00:34:15,770 --> 00:34:17,040
My pleasure, ma'am.
825
00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:19,020
My pleasure.
826
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:25,190
You know they made him
827
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:26,450
come down here and say that.
828
00:34:26,490 --> 00:34:28,050
Yes, that's exactly what happened, lieutenant.
829
00:34:28,090 --> 00:34:29,720
They agreed on their story,and they
830
00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:33,100
went over what they wanted him to say.
831
00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:38,750
I, uh, found 4 steves,and
832
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:40,700
this one, steven brand,
833
00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:44,080
arrested 8:45,october 15, 1998,
834
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,640
possession of a controlled substance
835
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:47,090
by hollywood division.
836
00:34:47,170 --> 00:34:49,980
Gerald curtis,arrested october 15, 1998,
837
00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:52,310
8:45pm, possession of a controlled substance
838
00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:53,570
by hollywood division.
839
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,700
Steven brand arrested by valley division.
840
00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:58,900
Breaking and entering,robbery,on august 3rd.
841
00:34:58,940 --> 00:35:00,040
Gerald curtis arrested by
842
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,830
valley division on august 3, 2000.
843
00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:04,350
Both sentenced to juvie for a year and a half.
844
00:35:04,420 --> 00:35:06,790
Steven and gerry were partners.
845
00:35:09,390 --> 00:35:10,650
We arrested steven brand
846
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:12,750
and executed a search of his apartment
847
00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:14,120
and his car looking for weapons
848
00:35:14,190 --> 00:35:16,250
or any mail forwarded from folsom.
849
00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:18,670
We found what we believe to be the murder weapon,
850
00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:21,500
a 9 millimeter pistol used to kill carl nelson,
851
00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:24,180
under the driver's seat of his black honda accord.
852
00:35:24,370 --> 00:35:26,140
We also found letters to the suspect
853
00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:28,980
from gerald curtis in a lockbox under his bed.
854
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:30,620
Subsequent to the search,
855
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:31,710
we checked phone records and discovered
856
00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:34,440
that steven had received 4 phone calls from you
857
00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:35,700
kendall.
858
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:40,420
Is this the guy gerry had you forwarding mail to?
859
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,670
As you can see,he's white,
860
00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:43,960
he's got dirty blonde hair,
861
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,170
a scar running from his mouth to his chin,
862
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:47,430
and if he were to stand up,
863
00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:48,500
he'd be pretty tall.
864
00:35:48,570 --> 00:35:50,610
Does that description sound familiar,
865
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,810
or do you need a red bandana to jog your memory?
866
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:55,150
Kendall.
867
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:57,540
What'd you do?
868
00:35:57,610 --> 00:35:59,140
Nothing, father.
869
00:35:59,210 --> 00:36:00,970
I...
870
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,300
he just wanted steven to know
871
00:36:03,330 --> 00:36:04,730
that he was back in town.
872
00:36:04,890 --> 00:36:06,640
To have him come visit in jail.
873
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:08,080
They were friends,
874
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,740
and gerry said that steven was still using drugs,
875
00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:14,250
and that he wanted to talk to him
876
00:36:14,330 --> 00:36:16,690
about how sobriety had made a change in his life.
877
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,520
That's all.
878
00:36:17,590 --> 00:36:18,580
I have looked through the letters
879
00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:19,850
that gerry sent you from prison,
880
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600
and I think some of them are missing, kendall.
881
00:36:22,350 --> 00:36:23,800
You have everything.
882
00:36:24,590 --> 00:36:26,300
Look, you're making things
883
00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:27,600
very difficult for me
884
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,780
because like many hardened criminals,
885
00:36:29,860 --> 00:36:31,860
your friend steven here has asked for an attorney.
886
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:34,930
That means we cannot question him directly.
887
00:36:35,350 --> 00:36:37,280
You've got information I need, kendall.
888
00:36:37,890 --> 00:36:39,490
And you're not telling me.
889
00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:41,130
We'd like to do this without arresting you.
890
00:36:45,730 --> 00:36:47,910
Buzz, could you please turn on that other monitor?
891
00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:48,750
Yes, ma'am.
892
00:36:50,830 --> 00:36:51,850
Gerry.
893
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:56,620
I'm gonna give you one more run at this, kendall.
894
00:36:56,660 --> 00:36:58,520
I want you to listen very closely
895
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,970
to what gerry has to say.
896
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:06,940
Thank you, officer.
897
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:09,610
Ma'am, it's great to see you again.
898
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,120
You, too, gerald.
899
00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:13,500
I hope I'm not disturbing your sleep too much.
900
00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:14,330
You've got your motion
901
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,890
for a new child tomorrow, right?
902
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,070
Yes, ma'am.
903
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:19,130
Well, you'll probably be glad to hear
904
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600
that we found the person who murdered carl nelson.
905
00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:23,260
Steven brand.
906
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:26,540
He also matched the description that carl gave
907
00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:29,390
of the person who shot the korean couple.
908
00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:30,770
He's not talking, of course.
909
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,410
He has a lawyer.
910
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,990
Wow, that's amazing.
911
00:37:33,410 --> 00:37:35,390
When did you find him?
912
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:36,750
Couple hours ago.
913
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:40,570
So the only thing I have left for you
914
00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:43,730
is a question or two about some letters
915
00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:46,230
that we found in his apartment from you
916
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:48,300
forwarded to him by a young girl
917
00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:49,940
by the name of kendall price.
918
00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:51,540
You know kendall.
919
00:37:51,620 --> 00:37:53,090
You kept a picture of her.
920
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,100
In your cell at folsom.
921
00:37:56,430 --> 00:37:58,330
She was one of several young ladies
922
00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:59,990
you had photographs of.
923
00:38:00,430 --> 00:38:03,330
So who are these women,by the way,
924
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,160
whose pictures you had up in your cell?
925
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:08,810
Uh, just girls that I write to.
926
00:38:08,890 --> 00:38:12,070
Or who write to me.Some of my girlfriends.
927
00:38:12,180 --> 00:38:14,250
Was kendall one of your girlfriends?
928
00:38:15,130 --> 00:38:18,260
No. Not really.No.
929
00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:20,120
She was, uh...
930
00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:21,850
too young for me.
931
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:23,290
Really?
932
00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:25,730
That's not what you said in the letters
933
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,910
that you wrote to her.
934
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,950
Ok...look.
935
00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:32,920
I was nice to her
936
00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:34,440
because she wrote me all this...
937
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,230
like fan mail.
938
00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:39,560
And I didn't want to hurt her feelings.That's all.
939
00:38:39,830 --> 00:38:41,800
Let's see if that story matches
940
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,370
what you told steven brand.
941
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,830
Your friend that kendall forwarded mail to.
942
00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:48,040
Look, here it is.
943
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:51,010
"Dear stevie, good news.
944
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,080
"One of my girlfriends,
945
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:53,680
I've mentioned her to you before,
946
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:54,870
"butterface."
947
00:38:55,650 --> 00:38:57,180
I think I know that nickname.
948
00:38:57,260 --> 00:38:58,860
Doesn't that refer to a girl
949
00:38:58,930 --> 00:39:01,730
who has a great figure but her face isn't so great?
950
00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:04,630
Maybe you meant something else by it.
951
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,180
No? Let's go on.
952
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:09,020
"Butterface has helped me find
953
00:39:09,090 --> 00:39:11,760
"a witness to the murders I was falsely accused of.
954
00:39:11,830 --> 00:39:15,680
"His name is carl nelson,of 4503 patterson drive,
955
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:18,420
and he's a 16-year-old boy who wears glasses.
956
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:19,630
Gosh, that sounds an awful lot like
957
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:21,130
you did know who carl was
958
00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:22,950
before your lawyers mentioned him.
959
00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:27,050
See, this postmark was dated two weeks ago.
960
00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:30,050
Well, it's just...
961
00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:32,030
just chock-a-block with surprises.
962
00:39:32,110 --> 00:39:33,520
This letter, isn't it?
963
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,850
Well, let's go on.
964
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,900
"Carl," there's his name again,
965
00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:39,820
"was actually in the kwikmart
966
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:41,380
"when the murders took place.
967
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:43,550
"And has just finished giving a sworn deposition
968
00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:46,680
"describing the real killer."As being a tall, blonde man
969
00:39:46,750 --> 00:39:49,420
"with a scar from his mouth to his chin.
970
00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:51,550
"I know you'll be happy to have this information.
971
00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:53,130
"Just goes to show you,doesn't it,
972
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:56,790
"that things are never over.Yours in christ. Gerry."
973
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,800
Here's what I believe.
974
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,750
I think you had a lot of time in prison
975
00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:04,160
to plan how you might get out.
976
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:05,200
And that you corresponded
977
00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:07,390
with a lot of susceptible young women
978
00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,140
who you hoped would lie for you.
979
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:10,320
Or get a friend to lie.
980
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,710
And that kendall did just that.
981
00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:14,200
And you know what else I think...
982
00:40:14,270 --> 00:40:15,870
stupid, stupid girl.
983
00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:18,010
I think the description that carl gave
984
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,900
was probably that of steven brand
985
00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:21,650
who I believe drove you away
986
00:40:21,730 --> 00:40:23,530
from the kwikmart after the robberies.
987
00:40:23,610 --> 00:40:26,230
To your defense attorneys,
988
00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:28,710
you thought that steven might be scared
989
00:40:28,780 --> 00:40:29,990
into killing him.
990
00:40:30,330 --> 00:40:31,670
And you were right.
991
00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:33,310
I wonder how steven will feel
992
00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:36,000
when he knows that you gave a description out?
993
00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:38,290
But you can't trust anyone these days.
994
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,770
Go to hell.I want my lawyer.
995
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:41,920
And especially,you couldn't trust carl,
996
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,980
a 16-year-old boy who might fall to pieces
997
00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:46,150
on the witness stand,if examined too closely.
998
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:47,590
And if I were to find out that you had written
999
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:49,950
all that out for kendall so that she could help carl
1000
00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:52,760
make his testimony more believable, why,
1001
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,450
that would be as good as a confession.
1002
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,630
I said, go to hell.
1003
00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:59,150
You first.
1004
00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:13,030
I have the letters.
1005
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,010
I have them.
1006
00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:19,560
I talked carl into saying he was there.
1007
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,200
He had a crush on me,and I...
1008
00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:26,280
father watson,I was just trying--
1009
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,360
oh, my god.Oh, my god, oh, my god.
1010
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:34,700
I killed him.
1011
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:37,480
Oh, god, I killed him.
1012
00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:48,220
I had no idea that gerry
1013
00:41:48,290 --> 00:41:49,450
had asked someone to lie for him.
1014
00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:51,070
I had no idea. None.
1015
00:41:51,570 --> 00:41:53,390
Unfortunately, father,
1016
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,320
you don't answer to me.
1017
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,990
I'm so sorry.
1018
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:33,280
So did you find gerry's other letters?
1019
00:42:33,970 --> 00:42:34,810
Yes.
1020
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Kendall kept them in her bible
1021
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,580
that she got for confirmation.
1022
00:42:38,650 --> 00:42:40,390
And this is the letter
1023
00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:42,430
that really does it for gerald curtis.
1024
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,650
Writes out the entire script for carl,
1025
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,000
and it's filled with stuff
1026
00:42:46,070 --> 00:42:47,410
that only the shooter would know about.
1027
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,120
And it's in his own hand.
1028
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,960
All right. You think that'll convince a judge?
1029
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,800
Yeah. And he signed it yours in christ.
1030
00:42:57,900 --> 00:42:59,490
So I hope taylor's visit
1031
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,950
cleared everything up for you.
1032
00:43:01,020 --> 00:43:02,700
I hope so, too.
1033
00:43:03,470 --> 00:43:05,830
You're not mad at me about all this, are you?
1034
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:07,550
No. It's not your fault.
1035
00:43:09,690 --> 00:43:11,900
You doing some house cleaning?
1036
00:43:11,970 --> 00:43:13,270
What?
1037
00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:15,520
Yeah--oh.
1038
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,000
Yes...just a little.
1039
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,300
Ok, all right.
1040
00:43:19,370 --> 00:43:20,380
Well, as long as we're good.
1041
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,050
Good work.
1042
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,960
Hey! Hey!
1043
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Hey, that tune you're whistling.
1044
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,120
That's the ring on my new cell phone.
1045
00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:33,810
Oh, that's what I keep forgetting to tell you.
1046
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,310
Your purse.It's in my office.
1047
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,960
You must have left it there
1048
00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:39,480
sometime this week during all the...
1049
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:41,230
I'll go get it.
1050
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:43,750
No, that's ok.I'll come up, and...
1051
00:43:44,050 --> 00:43:44,750
ok.
1052
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:46,200
I have something, uh...
1053
00:43:46,810 --> 00:43:48,580
I do have something
1054
00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:49,980
I want to say to you.
1055
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:51,470
So...
1056
00:43:52,070 --> 00:43:53,340
will you wait?
1057
00:43:53,420 --> 00:43:54,430
Sure.
1058
00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:55,610
Ok.But you don't have to
1059
00:43:55,690 --> 00:43:58,200
say anything.
1060
00:43:58,270 --> 00:44:00,980
I mean...is it about us?
1061
00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:04,180
Well, uh...
1062
00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:06,000
'cause we're, you know,we're good.
1063
00:44:08,290 --> 00:44:12,290
I, uh, I know, brenda.
1064
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:15,130
I get it.
1065
00:44:15,590 --> 00:44:16,880
We're good.
1066
00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:19,320
So you gonna be long?
1067
00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:21,280
I'll...just be a minute.
1068
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,270
Ok.
1069
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:23,850
All right, great.
1070
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,660
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