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This week on Undercover Boss...
Good morning. It's a great day at K.O.A.
How can I help you?
The chairman and C.E.O.
of Kampgrounds of America,
the largest chain of campsites in North America...
Hurry back.
Goes undercover, posing as a former accountant.
Ta-da. Hi. I'm Tim.
Nice to meet you, Tim. I'm Nathan.
His employees think he's on a reality show
where he's competing to win funding
from an investor to buy his own campgrounds.
Are you sure you want to do this?
Come on, man.
I don't want to break anything.
Road trip!
This eagle scout will hit the highway
in his R.V. and work side by side with employees...
While going on the ride of his life.
He'll discover who makes his company tick.
This is a fun part of the campground.
Yeah.
My name is Sadie, and I'm the store manager.
You sure don't sound like a manager.
How will the boss react
when he finds out that the customer
isn't always right?
You're being incredibly rude to me,
and I'm trying to help you.
You know what?
Screw you and your crappy campsite, you idiot.
Oh, heck, no.
Find out next on Undercover Boss.
Undercover Boss 4x07 Kampgrounds of America (KOA) Original air date January 11, 2013
Sync and corrections by atrn97g for www.addic7ed.com
Headquartered in Billings, Montana,
and offering 475 campsites across North America,
K.O.A. is the largest campground organization
in the world, generating $200 million a year.
Trailblazing the way for these 5,000 employees is one man.
I'm Jim Rogers, C.E.O. and chairman
of Kampgrounds of America.
Hey, good morning, Billings.
How you doing?
K.O.A. is celebrating 50 years of camping.
Ahh, this is living.
In 1962, Dave Drum was a member
of the Chamber of Commerce board in Billings, Montana.
And he was hearing about all these calls
that people needed for a campground
on their way to the Seattle world's fair.
And so they borrowed a franchise agreement
from a hotel chain, and now we have
60,000 campsites at more than 475 locations.
As they say, the rest is history.
- Hey, Sherry. - Good morning, Jim.
It's a great day at K.O.A.
I was born in '49 in Marin County,
north of San Francisco.
I started with boy scouts
at the age of five as a cub scout.
My mom was a den mother.
My father was a scoutmaster.
You have to be an eagle scout with the Rogers.
You know, only 3% of all boy scouts
get the eagle scout rank.
I have ten in my family.
In 1972, Kampgrounds of America
offered me $500 a month to come up here
and be a management trainee.
And, uh, I went home.
I asked my girlfriend to marry me.
I drove to Billings, Montana.
34 years later, I was offered
the president and the C.E.O. job
at Kampgrounds of America, and here I am.
Hey, it's a great day at K.O.A. This is Jim.
I run to this job.
I can't wait to wake up.
Our business is unlike any other.
It's not like making widgets.
The idea is that we want to get
people from their backyard to the backcountry.
Our mission is to create happy campers
that recommend K.O.A. to others.
Anybody can stay with us.
It's so positive in that it reflects
the best values of our nation.
It makes it meaningful work,
which people get excited about.
Employees get excited about it.
Hurry back.
Well, I can't control what you do,
but I can certainly make some suggestions
about what you're going to do while you're out there.
I'm Sandy Rogers.
I've been married to Jim Rogers for 40 years.
You've got to be your... the humble you.
Y-you can't be Mr. K.O.A...
Like you are.
I am gonna be fascinated to watch this.
Jim is an eagle scout. He's a boy scout.
And, yeah, he's not a good liar.
So it's going to be a challenge for him
to keep his mouth shut.
So you wanted me to take a lot of pictures
so you can enjoy this later?
I totally want lots of pictures.
All right.
I've been very aggressive in my time at K.O.A.
to dial this company up.
We want to go from good to great.
Yeah.
This is a people product.
We're in the service business at K.O.A.
I want to know what's going on at the front line.
I want to see that interaction.
I want to see that genuine engagement.
And I think it's so important
that our employees understand
the important role they're playing...
not only to the company, but the country.
And that's why I'm going undercover.
Ta-da.
My disguise is gonna be great.
While undercover, I will be Tim Bickford,
a recently laid-off accountant.
Throughout my undercover journey,
K.O.A. campground employees
will be tricked into thinking
they're on a hosted reality show
in which they will work alongside Tim
and then decide whether he deserves
to win the money to buy his own campground.
We are here in beautiful Santa Cruz, California.
The woman pretending to be the host of the fake show
will keep asking questions
about whether Tim deserves to win the money
so the campground employees will have no idea
that this is secretly Undercover Boss.
Here I am, darling!
That is incred...
I'm Tim.
Take off the wedding ring,
'cause I'm not married to you right now.
So when I'm undercover, I'm going
from place to place in an R.V.
- Well, what a beautiful day. - Yeah.
Holy Toledo.
This is a road trip, and here I come.
Okay, have a great time, Tim Bickford,
but come back Jim Rogers.
- Wish me luck. - I wish you luck.
Drive carefully.
Road trip!
I'm in Stockton, California, today,
and I'm going to be working with a store manager.
Well, the Stockton K.O.A. really has a great location,
because it serves the San Francisco Bay area.
And in addition, this is a unique location
because it has a marina.
So there are 800 boat slips. There's a restaurant.
There's facilities for jet skis.
The store is always the registration point
for the guests as they arrive.
It's sort of the headquarters of the camp,
and so you want to know you have a manager
that has great interaction with the guests.
Good morning, Dennis.
Good. How are you, hon?
There has to be a very positive vibe
coming from that store
to impact the entire campground.
Excuse me.
I'm looking for Sadie.
- I'm Sadie. Hi. - I'm Tim.
- Nice to meet you, Tim. - Nice to meet you.
That's a nice shirt there, bud.
We need to get you a name tag.
I'm the store manager.
So right now we're just gonna open up the store.
Want to help me get the coffee started?
Sure.
We'll put this little deal in there.
- Through the hole. - Push her down.
Good morning. It's a great day at Stockton Delta K.O.A.
This is Sadie. How can I help you?
Check-in time is at 3:00 P.M.
and checkout is at 11:00 A.M.
What do you mean "why so late"?
I don't make coffee ever.
I've seen it made.
3:00 P.M. and 11:00... 11:00 A.M.
I prefer tea.
I didn't want to do anything until you got back.
Okay. You just slide it in.
See those little slots?
- And you just push "start." - Nice.
Push that down.
- There you go. - Wow.
And you just come back... and it brews itself.
Wow.
Tim is definitely very kind of green,
very kind of, like, out of his element a bit.
How... how do you answer?
Um...
It's a great day at the Stockton K.O.A.
This is Tim.
Some enthusiasm.
Good morning. It's a great day at the Stockton Delta K.O.A.
Then what do I do when they ask me a question?
Answer it.
Good morning. Stockton Delta K.O.A.
This is Tim. May I help you?
Uh, yeah. Do y'all have a space
for a 45-foot pull-through, 3rd and 4th of July?
Let's see here.
Hey, hang on, my manager who's here is gonna help.
I'm just training today.
Okay.
Hi. My name's Sadie.
I'm gonna help you right now, hon.
You said, um, July 3rd arriving?
July 3rd... 45-foot motor coach
with a car towed behind it, a pull-through.
So you need a pull-through. Okay, give us just a second.
Okay, so, for this system here, this is called campsite.
All K.O.A.s use this system.
So let's register you into 368 first.
Oh, nine? How is that possible?
My computer's being a little... a little slow on me.
It's a very archaic system.
It's not very user-friendly.
The computer goes down, then the receipts go down,
and then we have to reset it.
H-hi, there.
Tim can help you.
So we're gonna type in F2.
Bear with me here.
Wow. That one's not turning on.
We got a little malfunction here, guys.
Front desk to guest services please.
Sadie is immediately overcome by guests.
So it's... it's like a tsunami.
Just a second, guys.
We're... it's going slow.
But she's got a diversity of needs here.
And the K.O.A. technology right now is not meeting them.
Sorry to make you wait.
You kept me on hold for five minutes, idiot.
I don't have time for this crap.
I'm sorry?
Isn't 11:00 late for check-in?
Right. But we have to go down and clean the site.
That's ridiculous.
All campgrounds are that way.
I want to talk to the manager.
That's me. My name is Sadie, and I'm the store manager.
You sure don't sound like a manager.
Yeah, but you're being incredibly rude to me,
and I'm trying to help you.
I'm just standing there, just being a wallflower.
And it's just... it was just ripping me apart inside.
I'm not gonna be screamed at.
And I'm not gonna have someone just sit there
and degrade me while I'm trying to help you.
I was trying to help you, and you're still arguing with me.
And I'm still trying to help you.
Jim Rogers, C.E.O. of Kampgrounds of America,
is a boss undercover in his own company.
Excuse me. I'm looking for Sadie.
His employees think he's a former accountant
on a reality TV show, competing to win money
from an investor to open his own campground.
But right now he's in the middle
of phone-call chaos at the Stockton K.O.A.
You sure don't sound like a manager.
I'm not gonna be screamed at.
And I'm not gonna have someone just sit there
and degrade me while I'm trying to help you.
I was trying to help you, and you're still arguing with me.
And I'm still trying to help you.
Tell you what, honey...
why don't you put whoever's really in charge
on the phone and go back to painting your nails.
He's not in, but I can transfer you to his voice mail.
- Do that. Thank you. - You're welcome.
So that's something that happens...
That's normal. It's every day.
- Every day? - $2.75, hon. Out of $20?
It's very common to have customers
that are gonna be difficult.
Sadie handles it.
- Thank you very much. - You're very welcome.
And at the same time, she was paying attention to me
and paying attention to guests.
- Sadie, thank you. - You're welcome, Mark.
Have a good one.
You know, that's a special kind of person
that can do that and maintain her cool.
Okay, so we're doing the fishing boat
for two adults and four kids?
- Yes. - How long?
- Two days. - I'll meet you down there.
- I'll just meet you down there. - Appreciate it.
I have a guest up here that's renting a boat right now.
- Would you please help me? - Okay.
If you need something, just call Sandy.
She'll help you out.
Probably good for you to get out of the office
for a few minutes.
This is my favorite part right here.
Make sure we got life vests under here.
This is the live well, if you're gonna
- be doing any fishing. - Okay.
Start her up.
Ah.
- Piece of cake. - Piece of cake.
You guys are good to go.
- Thank you, Sadie. - Yep.
So you're responsible for boat rentals too?
Yeah. Have you been on a boat before?
Yes, but it's been a while.
Okay.
You want to take it out, take it for a spin?
Oh, that would be fun.
Hey, Bella. How are you, hon?
- Good. How are you? - Doing good.
The minute I'm... well, right now I'm going to school.
But when I wasn't going to school,
the minute I was off work, I was on the water.
Where... where are you going to school?
I'm going to school in Sacramento
- for skin therapy. - Oh, really?
Eventually I'd like to kind of move into that.
Well, I put my heart, my sweat, my blood, my tears
into everything that I do here.
The appreciation isn't there,
because I work my ass off.
I just think that if those little things
were appreciated a little bit more,
then I would feel a lot better
about getting up every morning
and, like, be more excited to come to work.
I was disappointed that she feels unappreciated.
It is essential that we attract and retain
more people like Sadie.
So is your... was your family outdoorsy?
I've always been kind of a tomboy.
I've always been outdoorsy, you know?
I've always wanted to kind of be
out in the fresh air and whatnot.
Were you the oldest sister?
Yeah. Five girls and one boy.
You have a big family.
There's even more than that.
My mom actually had two more after...
after my dad and her separated.
So there's actually 11.
So are you still connected with your mom?
My mom left, actually, when I was, um, five.
Oh, okay.
You know, when we were moving into foster care,
it was... I was the mom.
They let you go with your sisters
- into the same family? - Not necessarily.
We were in one foster home all together
for about eight months at one time.
Oh.
But after that, we were all split up.
Sadie's had a tough life.
She, uh, you know, was a foster child early,
who lost her mom at a very early age.
And yet, she's got a comfort about herself.
She's got a confidence about herself.
She maintains her cool. She's polite.
She reinforces the K.O.A. brand better than I do,
because she's living it every day in front of a guest.
- Perfect. - Good work.
Nice landing.
I'm at the Ventura Ranch K.O.A. in Southern California,
and I'm gonna be going into housekeeping today.
Southern California
is the biggest camping market in the world.
The Ventura Ranch K.O.A. is right next
to Los Angeles, so it's a "marquee" location for us.
- Hi. - Hey, I'm looking for Nathan.
That's me.
K.O.A. has a great reputation for cleanliness.
And so it's important
that people that are doing the housekeeping role
provide a good job.
What I do here is I help with activities,
maintenance, and housekeeping.
I think we're gonna head down to the zip-line.
- How's that sound? - Oh, I don't know.
A zip-line? I...
So this is our zip-line pavilion.
You know, we have smaller harnesses.
We have harnesses for, uh, more full-sized people.
Are you proposing that I'm gonna ride this?
- You excited? - I'm nervous.
I think Tim, to be successful in this,
should experience what it's like
for other people to be out there doing it.
And it's gonna set him up for success.
Do I need to call my wife?
- Whoa. - Okay.
So this is an 800-foot zip-line from pole to pole.
Should I start praying now?
I've had a fear of heights all of my life.
So jumping off the edge of a cliff,
connected to a harness and a piece of wire
that's, uh... I'm told is safe,
it's not something that I enjoy.
But I decided, when I decided to be Tim,
that I was gonna live Tim.
So I'm just going along for the ride.
Oh, that's good.
Just going along for the ride.
Green light on line one, please.
Green light on line one. Are you ready?
Well, I-I'm not sure I...
All right. Three, two, one.
Whoa.
Whoo.
Oh.
Good catch.
Do you get a souvenir or anything?
Uh, a bad hairdo from the helmet.
I'm trying to be out here to do things
I've never done before.
And I'm just gonna add the zip-line to it.
So we're gonna just proceed down here
- to our glamour cabin... - A glamour cabin.
Where we had our guests check out
just a little while ago.
Everything's glamorous at K.O.A.
Huh.
Go ahead and take one of those.
Our guests were nice enough to leave us a lovely mess.
So we'll move into the bathroom.
And so we'll make sure we get the toilet and everything.
Oh, are you kidding? I love cleaning toilets.
When I said I wanted to get right down
to the front line,
well, the front line is that toilet.
It's the porcelain.
That's where the rubber meets the road.
Let's get the brushes and stuff.
I'd be happy to wash the mirrors.
All right.
I think, actually, I left most of the cleaning rags.
So I'm gonna have to run back.
Uh-oh.
I will be right back with some towels.
You should arrive inside of a cabin
with the necessary tools, uh, chemicals,
towels, sheets to get the job done.
I'm in there ready to clean,
and he had to return to the housekeeping area
to get supplies.
It became apparent that there was some confusion
in the preparation for today's job.
So, really, we just wipe down all the mirrors with ammonia.
I use it on the toilet also.
It totally kills all the bacteria and everything.
Okay.
So same thing, with just the ammonia?
Yeah, because it doesn't leave
any kind of residue or anything.
I was surprised that there was
one universal cleaning material.
And it was just the same...
that I just used on the mirrors.
So do the counters with the ammonia?
Yeah, we'll do the counters with the ammonia.
There indeed are different products
that should be used to clean a toilet
versus to clean a sink.
It's like using Windex to, you know,
clean your toilet bowl.
I'm not a chemist,
but I think that can be done better.
And, uh, I'm taking the same towel
that I used on the floor of the shower
and cleaning the countertops in the kitchen.
That's... that's wrong.
- Okay. - Um, so trash.
Uh, the salt and pepper, I guess,
we can save for another guest.
So, if you find something in the cabins...
uh, we do have a lost and found.
I mean, if it was, you know, an iPhone or...
- something of value. - Absolutely.
I found a s'more kit with, you know,
two bags of graham crackers, two bags of marshmallows,
and it went straight to my kids.
Okay.
So there are some perks at times.
- You have kids, then, huh? - I have three.
Oh, whoa.
I don't get a lot of downtime.
How long have you been married?
Uh, I just had my two-year anniversary.
- Oh, congratulations. - Thank you.
We're still in our "young family" stage.
- Uh-huh. - So we're running out of time.
We got people coming to check in in about an hour.
So we'll shoot on over. You got your radio?
- I do. It's in my pocket. - Uh-oh.
Radio malfunction.
One of the key values that I learned
by being a boy scout is to be prepared.
And as I watched Nathan in action today,
he was always going off for additional supplies.
He was always leaving or going back to the cart.
And the housekeeping supply area is a distance away.
So you think about the time that's taken...
We've got a lot of work to do.
This is the glamour tent.
And if you want to go ahead and do the bed,
I'll come back with some sheets.
- Okay. - All right.
I'll be back in about ten minutes.
No worries.
Today with Nathan was educational.
My principles are, do a job right the first time.
And I wasn't allowed to do that today.
And Nathan... he was short of supplies.
- He didn't have 'em with him. - How we doing?
Got this folded.
This one is actually a throw blanket.
- Oh, okay. - So I'll run back over,
and I will grab a spread.
I didn't notice when I was in here before.
We need to whip the housekeeping program
into shape up here.
Coming into this undercover journey,
I knew I would gain additional insights
about K.O.A. from both our guests and employees.
After meeting Sadie and Nathan,
it's become clear to me that we have some work to do.
I hope in my next job that I'll learn more
about what we can do to help our employees with their jobs.
And look, I always have said that
in the race for excellence
or the race for great service, there is no finish line.
We will always have work to do.
That's what you have to do in the hospitality business.
Coming up, the boss gets "diggy" with it.
- You sure you want to do this? - Come on, man.
I don't want to break anything.
Chicken ain't nothing but a bird, Tim.
- We got to learn this stuff. - Okay.
- Whoa. - Okay.
And later, Jim hears the hard truth.
You don't care about these people.
You're just caring about, "hey, are we..."
- "how much money are we making?" - Wow.
Today we're at the Williams K.O.A.
in Northern Arizona.
We're very close to The Grand Canyon.
Howdy, prospector.
So this location is more of an on-the-way K.O.A.
It's an overnight park.
And so there's that continual churn there in the season.
There's always an international crowd.
There's always people visiting from all over.
- Hello. - Hello.
I'm looking, uh, for the owners.
- All right, I'll get her. - Thank you.
Hey, mom?
The owners here at the Williams K.O.A. are new.
It's a mom-and-pop operation, as we might say.
They've been here a year.
The best thing that I could see today
is a new owner that is eager to improve the business.
You hate to come in to a situation
where they haven't got the spirit
of, uh, wanting to take on the challenge.
- Good morning. - Good morning.
- How are you? - I'm Tim Bickford.
- Hi. Nice to meet you. - And what's your name?
I'm Lori. This is my daughter Madison.
Hi. Nice to meet you.
Oh. You're part of the family too?
- Yes. - This is my 14-year-old.
Nice to meet you, Madison.
All right. I have my radio.
Need me, call me.
All right. Have you ever drove a golf cart?
Uh, a long time ago.
All right, well, it's automatic. It's simple.
We're gonna go find Bruce, so we're gonna go straight.
- Who's Bruce? - Bruce is my husband.
And he handles everything on the outside.
Okay, so all you have to do is turn it on.
Just turn it on... ooh.
You don't need that.
Okay. All right.
Hit the gas. You're good to go.
It's always nice when you're going past a camper
- just to say hi. - Hi.
Hi, guys. How are you today?
Hi, guys.
Hello, puppies.
Hi, puppies.
I mean, did you just decide to jump into camping?
This job is not for the weak or the faint at heart.
If you would've asked us last season,
we would've sold it for a dollar.
That's how stressful it was.
Digging out sewer lines, cleaning toilets,
cleaning up throw-up.
Sometimes little kids lose it in the swimming pool.
The perception of running a campground
is it's really easy.
You just collect money, and, you know,
you take the rest of the day off.
But when they're working,
they're working 12 to 14 hours a day, 7 days a week.
It's... it's all-in.
All right, well, let's go, and I'll introduce you to Bruce.
- Okay. - And if we need to...
Oh, you hit the... you got to watch
the buttons there, bud.
All right. Pull it towards you.
Oh, there you go. All right.
- This is my husband, Bruce. - Hello, Tim.
How you doing, Tim? Tim. Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you, sir. - All right, Tim.
- Good luck to you. - Thank you very much.
- I appreciate it. - You guys have fun.
When Tim first walked up,
I'm thinking, "oh, he looks like an office worker,"
"maybe a pencil-neck geek."
"He's been indoors most of his life."
He's definitely in for a rude awakening,
being in this lifestyle.
So what's next?
Tearing down a beetle-infested tree.
A tree, huh?
I don't get to ride in a tractor very often.
Crash course in tractorin'.
Biggest thing, don't run the campers over.
80 is checking out.
Since we purchased this K.O.A. a year ago,
we've added a large playground,
we've added an extra cabin up there.
So we're up to, like, 20 cabins now.
I plan on putting a go-kart track right here.
You got a lot of plans.
That could be seen from the road... that'll be good.
That's why it's going right there.
It's a never-ending job.
There's always improvements to be made.
We're just gonna dig in here, break all these roots,
and we'll just tip the tree over.
What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you a shot
at the controls, see how you do.
Okay.
So away from you is out, towards you is digging.
Away from you, towards you.
I'll trade places with you.
Oh, boy.
Tim's got to throw out the accounting books
and get out in the field and get dirty.
It's part of owning a campground.
- You sure you want to do this? - Come on, man.
I don't want to break anything.
Chicken ain't nothing but a bird, Tim.
- We got to learn this stuff. - Okay.
Here we go.
See, this is the fun part of the camp.
Yeah.
Now the two left ones, pull it towards you.
Okay, now the one with the switch, up.
I got something... I got something there.
Keep it a little bit more this way
so we don't pollute that rock next door.
This is like, uh, the best ride at Disneyland.
I mean, it's like, "whoa."
Step on your right pedal and dump it.
Boys play with those kinds of things,
but to actually sit in one and move the handle
and watch the thing go and dig, actually dig,
it's a boy's dream.
We'll get it to stop a couple times.
Well, you're a natural.
All right, I'll trade you spots.
- Okay. Thank you. - You bet.
All right. Let's just push this baby over now.
That was cool.
That's good enough.
We'll do the rest with a chainsaw.
What kind of hours you work as an accountant?
You know, I'm about a 40- or 50-hour.
- 40 or 50 hours a week? - Yeah.
Well, that's about half a week around here.
That's the hardest part with my kids,
'cause we're used to going away in the summer
and boatin' and stuff, and I feel like we ignore 'em
and don't get to have the fun we used to have.
Where would you go?
Lake Powell. Go boatin'.
- Oh, just go have fun? - Yeah.
Oh, last year was tough... last year I wondered if this was
the dumbest thing I ever done in my life.
It's a hands-on job,
and you got to strive to make it better.
I mean, a lot of people fall into the routine
that... that putt-putt golf right there
is good enough, for example.
To me, that putt-putt golf sucks.
As soon as we get time, we'll start at the shack,
move our way over,
and there'll be a nice 18-hole golf course there.
Bruce is a get-it-done guy.
I think he'll build the golf course.
I think he'll build the go-kart track.
It's gonna be on the front of their property.
It's gonna send the message
to all those thousands of people that are driving by,
"this is a fun place."
Until we're the best K.O.A. in the United States,
- I won't be happy. - Really?
I'll go to my grave trying.
Well, you have a good vision. You have a good goal.
I would say that both Lori and Bruce
have the spirit of operation, and they're willing to learn.
This is a partnership.
We call them franchisee partners.
And I think we have things that we can do for 'em
to help them be successful and build a great brand.
You know how to do it.
I tell you what, at this point,
you've had the ability to get your feet wet
a lot more in the campground business
than I did when I started.
Today I'm at the Santa Cruz K.O.A.,
and I'm gonna be working with guest services.
The responsibility of guest service
is not limited to one job.
Every day there's a different list
of things that need to be done on a campground,
whether it's, uh, carpentry, whether it's electric,
you know, whether it's plumbing.
- Good morning. - Good morning.
- How are you today? - I am good.
And I am looking for Paul.
Okay, and you are?
- Tim Bickford. - Hi, Tim.
- My name is Shawn. - Nice to meet you.
Let me just give Paul a call,
and I'll have him meet you right down here.
- Thank you very much. - All right.
This is a flagship K.O.A.
and it runs a very high occupancy
throughout the summer.
I am looking forward to doing some dirty work today.
All right, well, here's Paul.
Oh, hi. I'm Tim.
Tim, pleasure to meet you, Tim.
My name's Paul. I'm Shawn's husband.
- Oh, really? - Yes.
We're a husband-and-wife team, so...
- Oh, nice connection. - My first thought was...
"He looked like he just stepped out of the accounting office."
He had the parted hair.
Yeah, the hair kills me, yeah.
You know, I don't like judging people,
you know, by their physical appearance.
But, uh, if I was picking teams
for a pickup football game, I would not pick Tim.
All right, we're off.
We're gonna head up here.
That's where our lodges are located.
We do curbside pickup.
- I'll get these items here. - Nice.
And we just throw 'em in the back of our wagon here.
Now, you see, we got a little cleaning to do here.
- Now, what you're gonna do... - Okay.
Use that metal thing to scrape off that down there.
Okay. Yep, yep.
- All right. Flip it over. - Okay.
You want to use the wire brush.
Okay.
So how often would you do this kind of thing?
- Would you scrape this every day? - Every checkout.
No matter what your duty is
in this campground, it's all about the guests,
especially those right there... the kids.
Hi, guys. You having fun?
That's what we want to hear.
The results show in the guest reviews.
We get some really good reviews here.
Oh, you'll have to tell me about that.
This campground, for the first time ever,
last year received
what they call the Founder's Award.
The Founder's Award is our top award in the system.
Only about 10% of our campgrounds
qualify with their guests for that special award.
Hi, folks. How you doing?
- Hi, Joanna. - Hi!
How are you?
Doing good. Thank you.
Those guys checked it. It's clean and ready.
- Front desk to guest services. - Go ahead, front desk.
Could I please have four bags of ice
delivered to site 163?
All right, we're gonna head down to the store.
Boy, you're in very good shape.
All right. As you see, that's 162.
Here's 163.
Hi. How are you, sir?
- Good. How are you? - Doing good.
We got four bags of ice here for you.
Where would you like that?
- Uh, just set it... - Set it on the table?
Very good.
Appreciate you bringing it to us.
Oh. Well, just so you know,
any tips that we get,
we'll put it into the care camp fund.
I don't know if you're familiar with K.O.A. Care Camping at all.
- No. - K.O.A. sponsors
campgrounds that are strictly for kids with cancer.
- Oh, okay. - So that's where
your money's going, just so you know.
You enjoy the rest of your stay, okay?
Take care. Thanks, guys.
The kids thank you as well.
- What a nice program. - Awesome program.
You see those things on TV all the time.
So how did you find this job?
After our kids graduated high school,
we started looking into what we wanted to do
with our lives.
Before that, I worked at a meatpacking plant
for about 15 years.
Then for about four years, I worked
at a circuit board manufacturing plant.
I wish I'd have known about this work many years ago.
I'd have started much sooner.
Okay. All right, Tim.
Welcome to my wife Shawn and I's home.
Get a drink of water for you. Are you thirsty?
- Sure, I am thirsty. - All right.
My wife and I sold our house in 2005
when our two sons graduated high school.
My mother had cancer in her lungs, stage four.
We moved in with ma,
and we were her permanent live-in caregivers
24 hours a day, 7 days a week for 10 months...
the last 10 months of her life.
My mother always taught me,
"make sure money is low on your priority list."
Her point was, "make sure the other things in life..."
"family, friends, the enjoyment you get"
"out of what you do for a living..."
"are high on your priority list."
Paul just shared with me his whole philosophy of life,
from his parents' death
to the values that they imparted upon him.
He has that sort of attitude that the world needs more of.
And being sure that you're taking care
of the ones that you love and having the family,
this is what we talk about... genuine engagement.
You know, if your goal
is to operate a campground, do me a favor.
Any employees that you have,
if they are performing well, show your appreciation to 'em.
K.O.A. was having their annual meetings here.
So all these people who are in charge,
none of them came around to shake our hands
or say, you know, "hey, what a great job"
"you guys did last year."
- Wow. - That's all it takes.
All I ask is that people out there who own campgrounds
realize what these folks have given up to work for you.
Like with us specifically, we're from Pennsylvania.
We have two granddaughters.
We've only seen the granddaughters once
since we've left Pennsylvania.
Uh...
Sorry.
Get a little... I get a little emotional.
I'm frustrated that a guy that loves this this much...
and the fact that we had take the time
to visit with the folks that made it happen.
Next stop... trash dumpster.
These are the little things
that are gonna make a difference in our business.
We have some work to do, you know,
to be sure that they feel
that they've been recognized for what they've accomplished.
You know the hardest part about this job?
It's knowing that that beach is right down there right now,
and I could be on a surfboard.
Being undercover has put me through
emotional gymnastics that I did not anticipate.
Good-bye, Tim.
We use the word genuine engagement
in our mission statement.
I've learned this week a little more what that means.
I personally am gonna take away
the sensitivity that has been heightened being Tim.
I need to provide more time to listen.
The Jim is back.
It used to be you say that you were an eagle scout, you know?
No. I am an eagle scout.
It's not something I did, you know, three years ago.
It's something that I am now.
I want to be sure that I leave K.O.A. better than I found it.
And that means continually finding ways to improve,
to do whatever it takes
to make the people of K.O.A. successful in what they do.
Coming up...
The employees think they're coming to give feedback
on whether or not Tim deserves his own campground.
I got the impression he's probably
better in the office than he is out in the field right now.
How will they react when they find out
that Tim is really Jim?
I'm the chairman and C.E.O. of Kampgrounds of America.
We brought the people that I worked with
to Sedona, Arizona,
because it is just the perfect place
to talk about the future of K.O.A.
The people I worked with think they're going to meet
with an angel investor to give feedback
on my performance.
They have no idea why they are really here.
Good afternoon.
- Nice to meet you. Nathan. - Nice to meet you.
Well, I understand you've, uh, spent some time
with a individual that's seeking some of my investment.
Yes.
Tim.
That's correct.
I got the impression he's probably
better in the office than he is out in the field right now.
Okay.
I have to be honest, you look very familiar to me.
Why... why's that?
You look a little bit like Tim.
You could be brothers, I'm not sure.
I'm the chairman and C.E.O. of Kampgrounds of America.
I'm Jim Rogers, and I was Tim.
Okay.
What's... what's going on?
You're on Undercover Boss.
- Are you serious? - That's what we're at.
Oh, my God.
I'm just... I'm in shock right now.
I had no idea. I just...
I knew something was weird about the whole thing.
Oh.
- Is that a fact? - Yep.
You're kidding.
No, I'm not.
Okay.
Paul, I wanted to say thank you personally.
I appreciate all that you do every day.
And I know our guests do to,
because they're the ones that decided that
that founder's award ought to be yours.
We just do what we can for the guests.
We love the guests.
Well, we... we love you too, okay?
I wish I could box you up
and send you all over the system.
But, you know, the time that we sat
and you talked to me about these K.O.A. Care Camps
that help support camps for kids with cancer...
and I want to make a $50,000 contribution
to care camps this year in your name.
That's fantastic.
I'm gonna give you a tip.
Yeah, a $50,000 tip, right?
Yeah, it's going in the jar.
It's... it's an honor.
It is definitely an honor.
And, you know, I got to tour your home.
Yeah, it's our home.
I'd like to give you $10,000
to help you fix up whatever you want to work on,
you name it.
Thank you.
Your grandchildren...
It's really important that you and Shawn
get back to see your grandchildren in Pennsylvania.
So I want to give you another $10,000
to make that trip possible.
Thank you.
Thank you. I thank you so much.
You don't know how much this means.
Thank you so much.
You are so welcome.
What Jim's done for us is just amazing, spectacular.
It's really true when you put your heart and soul
into something...
It does come back to you.
It truly does.
We're on Undercover Boss.
Are we really?
He's giving us $10,000
so we can go home and see the girls.
Aw.
Oh.
Aw.
We're going to see the kids.
Aw.
Nathan, I spent a little time
watching you as a housekeeper.
When I worked with you, I saw chaos in the housekeeping.
You know, you were running back and forth to pick up things.
You're using different chemicals,
you know, across the board.
And it just seemed like that, uh,
there's probably a more efficient way to do that.
So I'm gonna make arrangements
to send you up to our training grounds.
You know, we have our company-owned properties
where they're training new kind of concepts.
One of the things we're working really hard on is housekeeping.
And, uh, I want to be sure
I take care of your costs of your trip
and, uh, pay you while you're there.
Oh.
And hopefully you'll come back with some new ideas
and maybe give us a few.
If you're willing. Are you okay with that?
- That'd be outstanding. - Oh, great, great.
You know, you got me on that zip-line.
You probably don't know this, but I have a fear of heights.
And I was scared to death to jump off that board.
You pushed me.
I want to give you 5,000 bucks.
And I want you to take your family
to a theme park that has thrill rides.
- Are you serious? - I'm serious.
Wow. Thank you.
- Oh, thank you. - That's really a big deal.
I had no idea that I was getting duped
by my undercover boss.
Hopefully I can give him some good feedback,
and maybe I'll learn something myself.
Bruce, Lori, you are two precious franchisees, you know?
You guys are... you are so hardworking.,
and the only way I could get out
and get to know great employees like you
was to do it undercover.
I love that button-up shirt, all the way to the top.
All's you needed was a pocket liner,
and you'd be the professional geek.
Looking at you and all the ideas you have,
I think the accommodation side of your business is gonna grow.
I think there's real opportunity there.
And so I want to give you $25,000
to buy another deluxe cabin.
- Oh, my God. - Holy cow.
This is the craziest thing ever.
Well, if you're gonna be the best K.O.A.
in the system, you're gonna have to...
Yes, thank you so much.
I am just in awe here. Best news I've ever had.
You both are very hardworking owners.
And it's true of most couples
that are working like this, entrepreneurs,
but you don't get enough time away.
And I think you mentioned Lake Powell.
And so I... I want to give you
$10,000 for a vacation at Lake Powell.
I want you to go down there
and rent a high-end houseboat and bring the whole family.
- Would you enjoy that? - Oh, I'd go crazy on that.
- Would you? - This is fantastic.
Thank you so much.
Well, thank you for what you did for Tim.
Thank you for what you do for K.O.A.
and, uh, I look forward to watching you grow.
- New cabin. - We appreciate that.
It makes it worth it. It makes...
it's just worth everything that we have done.
We won't stop until that's the best K.O.A. around.
I guarantee you.
Sadie, you obviously expressed great pleasure
- in what you do. - I love it out there, yeah.
I know that you're frustrated by some of the things
- you're seeing in our system. - Yeah. Oh, yeah.
It's been a bit of a pill sometimes.
I can assure you that we are making improvements.
We are building proprietary software
that only K.O.A. will have.
And we'd love to get to it as quickly as you would.
You touched on a subject that was, you know,
- fitness related and skin care. - Yeah.
I'd like to create a task force at K.O.A.
that pursues that opportunity of developing
those kinds of locations, those kinds of facilities
throughout K.O.A.
And I'd like you to help us do that.
- Are you willing to do that? - Yeah, for sure. Definitely.
When we were out on the boat,
it was very clear to me that you had
a family that you would love to share,
you know, some of your joy of the water.
I'd like to give you 5,000 bucks
to get your family to come spend a week
and let them just enjoy and see what you love so much.
- My family? - Your whole family.
So wait. You're paying for my whole family
to come to the K.O.A. and just have a day of...
No, gonna have a week.
A week?
We'll put 'em in the deluxe cabins.
We'll feed 'em. We'll just... we'll treat 'em...
you know, first-class guests.
And, you know, we'll get you off that week
and be sure that everybody has a great time.
I don't know if I'll be able to get off work
for a whole week... in the summer?
Let me figure it out. I'm the boss.
- Okay. All right. - Okay?
And you talked about school.
I'm gonna give you $50,000
to cover the various things
that you want to accomplish now and in life.
- Me? - You.
Really?
- Are you serious? - I am.
To do what? For my schooling and...
Everything.
Can I have a hug?
Well, sure.
I'm speechless.
I'm speechless. I don't even know what to say.
I don't even know what to think.
I just...
I'm just so happy.
I'm on top of the world. This is amazing.
I'm proud of the people that I met this week.
I'm honored to be in the position that I am.
I'm extremely proud to be
the chairman and C.E.O. of Kampgrounds of America.
I felt that when I arrived, it was a good company.
I wanted to make it great.
My mom and dad always said
I got to leave the campsite better than I found it.
I think about that every day,
because at the end of the day, I want to do my best.
And I want to do a good turn daily.
And this week has helped me do that.
We use the word "genuine engagement"
in our mission statement,
genuine engagement with our guests.
I've learned this week it's better for me
to go spend intense time
with a small number of employees
than to try to speak to 250 at a big meeting.
And I think that if we can think that way as individuals,
not only is our company gonna do well,
but so is our country.
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