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in the interest of truth and justice
I have set down the unvarnished facts of my life
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my own story in my own words
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and especially in the images of the movies I was in
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let people judge for themselves
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if these things can ever be said to have a beginning
for me it started when I was 12 years old
I went to the movies and I saw a film called "hurricane"
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the actor was John Hall
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when he dove from the mast
I knew what I wanted to do with my life
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I wanted to be in the movies like him
a movie star
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that dive, that body
I dreamt about them
long after I had forgotten the film
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maybe my attraction to that shadow on the screen
convinced me I could replace it with my own body
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movies and eroticism
who can separate them?
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the sad thing about films though,
is you can trace the decline
of beauty and the process of aging in
the course of a handful of films
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just a few years later Hall's innocence looks
shotworne and coarsened
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it was just five years.
Hollywood can do that to you
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his bandage on his head didn't help
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the same was true of me I suppose
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I never understood how this
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could turn into this
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years later I met a stuntman who told me
he did the actual dive
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I was bitterly disappointed to learn
that it wasn't Hall himself
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but by then I had already learned a great deal
about the illusiory nature of the screen image
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when I died of aids in 1985
everyone was so shocked
that the lesser shock that I was gay
was more easily absorbed
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after all, being gay isn't quite as horrible as being dead,
even by the most conservative standards
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but what a way to come out of the closet
on the front-pages of every newspaper in the world
everyone's worst nightmare
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it certainly used to be mine
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what I'd like to know is
how come everyone didn't know by then?
it's not like it wasn't up there on the screen
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if you watch the films carefully
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the truth hurts, doesn't it?
I'd like to know the truth about you
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the truth about me?
I always knew the truth
wasn't that enough?
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even as a child I knew that I was different
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how different?
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well ... just ... different
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- poof!
- what do you mean? poof?
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- do you wanna pump before or after we sail?
- if I thought we should pump I'd ask for it
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the Odeon, that's the biggest nightclub there,
has made us a fine offer and I've accepted
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no! the Odeon? that's wonderful!
Hamburg is the gayest city in Germany
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I've already given notice here,
we close a week from Saturday
and open in Hamburg before Monday night
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he's the last guy in the world
I would have figured
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who can look at my movies the same way ever again?
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I made these films
before the word gay was used in polite company
before aids existed
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before people knew that gay also meant
their sons, their brothers, their husbands
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now everyone can see my films and say knowingly
"But of course he was gay"
as if they knew long before my death
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but at the time nobody got it
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I of course knew and understood better that anyone else
the gay implications in every movie
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in fact, I snipped these scenes out
and would run them over and over again
for my friends in the screening room in my house,
we rolled on the floor with laughter
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evidence, irrefutable proof, it was all up there
my homosexuality in plain sight like the purloined letter
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the public insisted on seeing me
as some kind of ideal embodiment of American manhood
no matter what happened on the screen
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and with women - even if they didn't know
what I was talking about,
or what they were talking about - I did
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it was all about excuses, evasions, protestations
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from them: confusion, accusations, understanding
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for your consideration:
my sample reel
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well since I've nothing to gain by lying to you
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I think you're the most provocative, exciting
and most desirable woman I've ever met
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you and Kyle!
the Rover boys
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I guess that's why I hate him so
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for taking you away
from me
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yeah I got an interest in somebody
that's got an interest in somebody else
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I haven't any wife
I live with my sister
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why aren't you married?
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why can't you get married?
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it's the sort of thing
a man doesn't discuss with a nice woman
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oh Linus!
what is it?
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what a kind of life you lead?
I don't know that life
how can I make sure it would work out?
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you can't, Carrie
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- and whey you get tired of it you're gonna wander into town,
pick up a hand and have to shoot your way out of town again
- a man can change, Carrie
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there's only so much a woman can do and no more
I speak from personal experience
with you
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- oh, but I'm not any fun for you any more
I'm just like a big flour barrel
- you're more beautiful all the time
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- just the same you're going down to town tomorrow and find
yourself some gay young playmate
- I don't wanna be with anybody else.
- Yes, you do.
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Anton I know what happened
and what must be on your mind
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but please try and forget it.
you couldn't have acted any differently
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one doesn't always have to have a clear reason
for the things he does,
it's how I feel, that's all
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Carrie, this is what I have to do
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Linus!
what are you doing here?
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where am I?
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this is Jerry Webster's apartment
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how did you get here?
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are you alright?
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try to think
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- was he waiting for you at your hotel last night?
- yes, that's it
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but how did he get you to come here?
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- you got to tell him the truth!
- you know what will happen?
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I know it'll mean you'll lose your job and your customers
and everything, but you've got to do that
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once you start fooling people you have to go on
and keep on fooling them and
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you're too nice a guy to be a phony
and to keep on being a phony
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if you didn't live through the fifties
you can't imagine what it was like
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men were supposed to be men
strong silent secure,
John Wayne, Gary Cooper
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and women were supposed to be women
delicate filly things
who only had marriage on the brain
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well I looked the part of the manly man
which accounted for my screen success
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and one thing men and women were expected to do,
had to do, was get married
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hitched, hooked, yoked.
all the phrases suggesting what?
animals in a trap
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and love is the tender trap
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but before you succombed
kicking and screaming to this blissful state
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the guy was supposed to avoid it as long as possible
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as a handsome bachelor movie star
he was supposed to play the field,
in fact he had to
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but here's the contradiction:
if by a certain age you're not hitched,
even if you're a sexy movie star bachelor,
the gossip starts
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I think a man has all the confidence in the world
until he's asked about his wife.
then he goes to pieces
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why aren't you married?
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it's about time you got hitched, isn't it?
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no, I have trouble enough finding oil
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- has he proposed?
- no but I have. quite often.
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there is nothing in this world so wonderful, so fullfilling
as coming home to the same woman every night
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why?
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I've met plenty of girls
nice ... otherwise
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well not the right one, and when you do -
or do you think you're not susceptible?
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some day you're gonna make some lucky woman
a very fine husband
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that's kind of you
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I'm afraid I can never get married
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that's what it means to be adult:
a wife, a family, a house
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a mature man wants those responsibilities
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why?
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now you know why I'm afraid to get married
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I'm afraid, afraid I'll be a failure
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oh, but you won't!
I know!
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a woman knows these things
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I wouldn't know what a woman knows
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but my marriage, a marriage of convenience,
was a disaster
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it was arranged by the studio to prevent the scandal
sheets from blabbing about my sex life
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the fan magazines went bananas
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Hollywood's most eligible bachelor snared
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but the innuendo never stopped
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- are you alright?
- what do you mean "alright"?
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he obviously respected you
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he didn't even try to kiss you
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or maybe you just don't appeal to him?
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he didn't write your number down
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or maybe he's ...
can you allow yourself to think of the word, Doris?
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it doesn't matter.
the audience is way ahead of you
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- damn it, Lily.
- I'm sorry, I really can't help it
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if you really wanted me, it shouldn't matter anyway
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I'm not afraid anymore
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oh that's good!
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what are you going to do?
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I'm going to give you confidence
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be gentle
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you're afraid of me, aren't you?
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get a lot of dates with that line?
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that's Cyd Charisse who had seen better days
dancing opposite Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly
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here she makes like Miss Dracula on a talent search
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what was it about the fifties anyway?
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was it a cultural thing,
the almost inevitable interruption of the kiss?
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or did it just happen to me?
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not that I especially minded
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as if I didn't have enough troubles
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give me a little kiss
and I'll give it right back to you
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would you please like to kiss me?
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of course I had a couple of simulated steamy
kisses from my scrap book, one or two scorchers
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but mostly it was pack and part
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kissing interruptus
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what is it? what did I?
oh, she just has to fix her hair
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here I am arm-wrestling with Angie Dickinson,
a former girlfriend of the late JFK
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the historical implications of being a kiss away
from the president, I have to admit, did brace my motor.
- I'm sure you get the general idea.
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and the ultimate interruption
in kissing interruptus
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our first kiss ever and look what happens
a metaphor for love in the age of aids
20-odd years before the fact
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a new definition of
kiss of death ?
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I guess this is what the upcry was about
when I kissed Linda Evans on Dynasty
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even though everyone knows
you can't get aids from kissing
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if my love scenes with women - however tenuous and unresolved -
was the cake Hollywood was serving up to the public,
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the scenes with me cruising - yes, cruising men
right under the studio bosses' very noses,
was for me the frosting
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remember heterosexuals, before they appropriated the word
cruising, it was called flirting
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making a pass at, coming on to,
showing an interest in
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the tell-tale signs, discreet or indiscreet glances
and a dumb ice-breaker or two
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- do you live around here?
- yes
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I should have collapsed on one of these roads long ago
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in guy-girl screen pickups we know what to look for and listen to
because we all assume to be straight,
and we're taught the conventions
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when guys cruise each other on screen - because it's so
unacceptable in real life - we don't even
notice it, it becomes invisible
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what does it look like?
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let's say it's a fandango of furtive glances,
or glances that are held too long, cryptic remarks
and innuendo-full propositions
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in the fifties and sixties no one was paying attention
but I was
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need a light, cowboy?
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when are you heading back to the ranch, Tex?
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they told you'd try to circle around
to get the sun in my eyes
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you did a little circling yourself
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circling, eh ? Maybe I did, Kirk.
maybe you did, too
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cruising in its purest state, so classic and obvious
it can't be mistaken for anything else
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he'll stay in my tent so we can live here
I'll bunk in with you, I snore like an elephant
but that's your problem
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why am I smiling?
what can my character be thinking of?
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I am sorry I lost control out there
I'm alright now
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I had a similar experience once
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something I have never been able to completely shake
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so I'm not exactly the one to give advice
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Sir, it's the way of things I guess
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that's what I always thought.
maybe we ought to get the work done first
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- I'll come for you at sundown.
- I'll be waiting for you
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what verb is his body language conjugating?
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you like Beethoven?
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- take it or leave it
- well you'd better take it
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oh oh think fast Rock.
don't fumble this pass
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by the way,
my name is Drager
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what's yours?
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but my finest moment was
putting the make on Duke
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maybe wearing that silly plume gave me the courage
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first the pause dramatic
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don't I know you from somewhere?
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to my knowledge, Colonel, we've never met before
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then the remark nonchalant
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it's late. will you and your friend join us for supper?
stay the night?
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- I'm about to make my rounds before I turn in tonight.
would you care to accompany me?
- thank you, sir
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that's Mrs. Rock.
was she ever pissed
but she's used to it
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Wayne was 62 in this movie
3 years older than I was when I died
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sometimes violence is the most genuine form of flirtation
especially with two gun-totting
bare-chested hunks like us
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come back with me
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we'll start over again.
this time it'll be different
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it is too late
for you and me
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boy! it was never this deep or steamy with Doris
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it got less amusing as I was getting older
and the guys were ... well
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- young.
- they all are
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can I be very candid here?
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sure, man, that's why I come to
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we've never discussed this
but I can see now is the time
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you see I've always had the real hope that ...
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I'm sorry
I understand, Captain,
I really do
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and I did
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more circling
with the muscular Jan Michael Vincent
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- you're a good junior officer Bubba Wilkes
- thank you sir
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but as a young man who desires my daughter's hand
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you're pitiful.
it embarrasses me to watch you
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- I don't understand Sir.
- you sure don't
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but the scrumptious Earl Halliman
who plays my son-in-law in "Giant"
seems to understand something
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I've been watching you pretty close for a lot of years
220
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you're a ranchman
and you're smart
221
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long looks
punctuated by even longer silences
222
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I guess he's afraid
I'm going to put my hand on his knee
223
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you're wondering why I'm talking to you
224
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Bob Dace,
look me right in the eye!
225
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it's oh-oh time
deep in the heart of Texas
226
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but the sexual tension of course
gets deflected
227
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and not because I'm his father-in-law either
228
00:20:21,379 --> 00:20:25,259
in any case,
Earl was 28
and I was only 31
229
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more inter-generational cruising.
hello son
230
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not bad. and despite my gray hairs I'm only 28
maybe this explains why my performance is an uncomfortable
mixture of parental pride and barely concealed lust
231
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you're strong too
you've worked hard
haven't you son?
232
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well now that there's two of us
maybe you'll have time for some fun
once in a while
233
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parental concern or brazen innuendo?
234
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sexual come-on
or fatherly affection?
you tell me
235
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more illuminating were the friendships I had with men
236
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they all smacked of what the French call
"amiti�s particuli�res"
237
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in plain English it looked likes guys after each other
238
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take Otto Kruger
a pipe smoking cultured gentleman in the European style
many years my senior
239
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he's given to wearing foulards and cardigans
and talks about art and whatnot
240
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and in many respects
he is very much like our director Douglas Sirk
241
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it's a nice place you have here
242
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but Otto in a word
cannot keep his hands off me
243
00:22:01,507 --> 00:22:04,587
is this how you wake up yours guests in the morning?
244
00:22:04,627 --> 00:22:12,868
all the signs were there:
the handshake held too long
is he trying to read my palm?
245
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extensive, unprovoked back-slapping
and laying-on of hands
246
00:22:18,548 --> 00:22:25,069
Otto the predator
stalking his prey
247
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gotcha
248
00:22:27,829 --> 00:22:35,910
ever hear of pedagogical eros?
older man, mentor type
younger man, eager near fight willing to learn
249
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that could describe Otto and me in this movie
and maybe it's a good description
of my relationship with Douglas Sirk
250
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Otto in this film was a definite Sirk-alike
and the two of them looked
like they were separated at birth
251
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Sirk and I made 9 movies together
and under his tutelage I became a star
252
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9 movies?
Godard only made 6 1/2 movies with Anna Karina,
although John Ford made 13 with John Wayne
253
00:22:56,831 --> 00:23:03,032
but anyway you slice this, we were a team,
Sirk was my mentor
as Otto was in Magnificent Obsession
254
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assuming there is a power or how do you call it,
how do you establish contact?
255
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it's very simple. just be of real service to people
find people who need help and help them
256
00:23:14,873 --> 00:23:20,593
I think you might be surprised of what follows
after trying this way of life
257
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one of the first men who used it
went to the cross at the age of 33
258
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that's a strange thing to say.
here's this big strapping hunk
sitting next to him on the couch and
that's all he can think of?
259
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I was 27 at the time
so I didn't take it personally
260
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I just thought of it as the pedagogical part
of pedagogical Eros
261
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here's the other part:
262
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the hands-on part
263
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now you're gonna repay that old old debt
in a way that you never imagined
264
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another Sirk movie, another mentor,
younger this time
265
00:24:13,878 --> 00:24:20,718
what does this look like to you? yeah I thought so too.
two handsome guys with the same hairdo
dying to kiss each other
266
00:24:20,758 --> 00:24:23,638
but Jack Morrel's not ready,
not yet
267
00:24:23,678 --> 00:24:28,399
but remember, nobody's to know who I am,
nobody!
268
00:24:28,439 --> 00:24:30,479
not even the two ladies?
269
00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:36,759
they least of all. You don't know women,
they'd have to do some crazy impulsive thing
270
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:41,760
just 'cause we diss dames together doesn't necessarily mean
we�re more interested in each other than in women
271
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I mean straight guys do it all the time, right?
and nobody suggests that they're fags
272
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:53,361
but there's also our meek cute first encounter
which seemed very similar to scenes from my own life
273
00:24:53,401 --> 00:24:59,681
- jump up, I'm on my way Dublin.
- well I might as well trust you
274
00:24:59,721 --> 00:25:05,322
come on up my boy. The Lord is providing.
we have a room for the night
275
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and check this out!
276
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I hereby christen you
Cpt Lightfoot
277
00:25:13,442 --> 00:25:22,203
we live in a world of fantasmagoria,
false forms and false faces,
each man wears a mask against his fellows.
well have you nothing to say?
278
00:25:22,243 --> 00:25:31,244
I've always lived like that, all gays do,
especially in Hollywood
with my mask firmly in place
- what about your mask?
279
00:25:31,284 --> 00:25:35,244
when he finds out his daughter is interested in me
he goes ballistic
280
00:25:35,284 --> 00:25:41,605
what's this fool talk about you and Mike?
well he's a boy, fresh from the box.
think what you're doing, girl.
he's reckless, he's handsome
281
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that he admits to having noticed
is yet another sign of progress
282
00:25:45,005 --> 00:25:48,805
- like yourself, Captain.
- nonsense, he's a very dangerous proposition
283
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ouch! translation:
it would put severe strains on family ties
to have someone as cute as Rock as a son-in-law
284
00:25:55,846 --> 00:25:59,846
could I control myself?
could you trust him?
285
00:25:59,886 --> 00:26:05,687
the subtext love interest in this one is:
good grief, it's big daddy!
286
00:26:05,727 --> 00:26:08,487
first clue: he starts trashing my girlfriend
287
00:26:21,048 --> 00:26:24,568
Mr Girth and Mirth in his bath
a formidable sight
288
00:26:24,608 --> 00:26:28,128
through some plot complications he
arranges to move in with me
289
00:26:28,168 --> 00:26:32,089
when he finds out my girlfried is going to visit
he has a snit fit
290
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:49,090
I have no intention of getting out or getting married,
just calm down
291
00:26:53,290 --> 00:26:58,571
I managed to convince him
that he can't be replaced in my affections,
but big daddy can't leave me alone for a second
292
00:26:58,611 --> 00:27:01,611
wherever I am, there he is
293
00:27:01,651 --> 00:27:06,331
- see you at dinner.
- where are you going?
294
00:27:06,371 --> 00:27:08,612
he begins to think of us as a couple
295
00:27:14,492 --> 00:27:15,852
we were married last night
296
00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:32,334
he can't have any ties for the work that I planned for him.
he must be a man alone and I somehow got
the feeling that you were
297
00:27:32,374 --> 00:27:35,934
Dr. Jenson, I want you to take Anton back
298
00:27:35,974 --> 00:27:41,494
it just isn't working out, our marriage I mean
I don't know what to do
299
00:27:41,534 --> 00:27:43,134
what's going on? another woman?
300
00:27:43,174 --> 00:27:48,375
no, if it were something like that I think that I could
cope with it. this is something else
301
00:27:48,415 --> 00:27:53,175
you know what it is, Gena?
does it have a name?
can you say it aloud?
302
00:27:53,215 --> 00:27:56,375
another older man in my screenlife
303
00:27:56,415 --> 00:28:02,976
- many pretty girls?
- enough
304
00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:05,816
oh shut up about dames
305
00:28:05,856 --> 00:28:15,097
it's the legendary director Vittorio de Sica
being overly chummy
306
00:28:15,137 --> 00:28:19,217
I reciprocate
307
00:28:19,257 --> 00:28:23,818
but does he ask me to be in his films?
308
00:28:23,858 --> 00:28:33,018
we pretend to cruise girls together
isn't that what guys do? oops
309
00:28:33,058 --> 00:28:40,699
he's always pumping me to find out if I'm getting laid
I think something else is going on
310
00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:58,460
this is pretty lame compared to the homoerotic overtones
in the earlier "Farewell to arms"
with soon-to-be-a-major-rightwinger Adolphe Menjou
and the young and yummy Gary Cooper
311
00:29:15,262 --> 00:29:19,862
if you want to be a friend of mine, shut up!
312
00:29:19,902 --> 00:29:25,263
I don't want to be your friend -
I am your friend.
an envious one.
313
00:29:25,303 --> 00:29:28,863
but who is he envious of:
me or her?
314
00:29:28,903 --> 00:29:33,183
- are you married? - not yet.
- still in love? - yes.
315
00:29:38,784 --> 00:29:47,664
and then there is the diminutive but adorable Brian Forbes
who later became a director
always complaining, always whining
316
00:29:47,704 --> 00:29:54,465
by the moment they heard Napoleon was making ready to invade
they shipped all the beautiful girls back to England
317
00:29:54,505 --> 00:30:00,385
I don't know, Willie.
I find plenty of them.
Maybe you've been at sea too long
318
00:30:00,425 --> 00:30:03,586
I think I know what he means.
I think you know what I mean.
319
00:30:03,626 --> 00:30:08,986
I'm straight as an arrow, Rock Hudson,
6-4 with a jaw of steel
and he's always finding fault with women
320
00:30:09,026 --> 00:30:11,866
that's the sidekick's purpose
in these crypto homo romances
321
00:30:11,906 --> 00:30:18,907
but the hero loyal to a fault never questions his friendship with
or the behavior of the second banana who is
usually a jealous nagging harpy
322
00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:22,507
the relationship is like a bad marriage on a sitcom
323
00:30:22,547 --> 00:30:27,548
did you have to go and give her back the gold?
now we made the trip for nothing
324
00:30:27,598 --> 00:30:31,308
like no other girl I ever met.
- now don't change the subject,
the fact is we haven't got the money
325
00:30:31,358 --> 00:30:32,258
what came over you?
326
00:30:32,308 --> 00:30:36,898
we brought her here, she paid us
we don't owe her anything
327
00:30:36,948 --> 00:30:40,869
the pity about you Willie,
you're a good man but you got no heart
328
00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:43,149
I got a stomach that needs filling
at least once a day
329
00:30:43,199 --> 00:30:46,259
come on, forget her
he's in love
330
00:30:46,309 --> 00:30:53,030
he met a girl and she told him she had a hard life
and she's all alone in the world
and you mustn't feel sorry for her
331
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,700
do you think a bullet would shut him up?
332
00:30:56,750 --> 00:31:01,110
will you stop feeling sorry for her and feel sorry for us
what have we got so far?
333
00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:04,430
but it wasn't all bickering and growsing,
it had moments
334
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,101
untie me
335
00:31:06,151 --> 00:31:09,941
how long you been here?
336
00:31:09,991 --> 00:31:14,151
till last night
what did they get you for?
337
00:31:14,201 --> 00:31:18,742
thrust like this:
what do you think?
338
00:31:18,792 --> 00:31:18,872
is that all?
I thought maybe it was something serious
339
00:31:18,922 --> 00:31:21,782
women come and go
but a buddy is forever
340
00:31:21,832 --> 00:31:26,112
you know it's good I got you with here, Willie.
otherwise I'd get in a lot of trouble
341
00:31:26,162 --> 00:31:31,263
and then there's Tony Randall
who always plays my best fiend
342
00:31:31,313 --> 00:31:35,833
he's such a prancing prissy neurotic nerd,
my sexuality is never called into question
343
00:31:35,883 --> 00:31:39,273
here he is suggesting and hoping
for a little bit of S&M
344
00:31:39,323 --> 00:31:43,114
you're gonna hit me?
you're gonna hurt me?
345
00:31:43,164 --> 00:31:46,184
George, do me
346
00:31:46,234 --> 00:31:49,074
do me?
he lays it even more on the line
347
00:31:49,124 --> 00:31:50,544
need a light, cowboy?
348
00:31:50,594 --> 00:31:59,475
when're you heading back to the ranch, Tex?
349
00:31:59,525 --> 00:32:00,595
that's up to you
350
00:32:09,916 --> 00:32:13,516
in all of our movies together
Tony manages to find me in various states of undress
351
00:32:13,566 --> 00:32:17,316
he tries to act nonchalant
but he really wants to look
352
00:32:17,366 --> 00:32:19,867
finally he does
353
00:32:19,917 --> 00:32:24,717
a stealthy glance that only lasts a millisecond
but may have to last for eternity
354
00:32:24,757 --> 00:32:30,237
memorize it, learn it by heart.
I understand, Tony, really I do
355
00:32:30,277 --> 00:32:34,397
he can't help it
he has to do it again
356
00:32:34,447 --> 00:32:38,468
you blame him?
I'm not sure I could resist
357
00:32:38,518 --> 00:32:42,078
that was what they wanted from me in Hollywood
and that's what people paid to see
358
00:32:42,128 --> 00:32:44,589
and as long as people were paying
359
00:32:44,639 --> 00:32:49,639
you shouldn't be embarrassed if people see you like that
no, you look wonderful without your clothes
360
00:32:49,689 --> 00:32:55,079
if you want my body
and you think I'm sexy
361
00:32:55,129 --> 00:32:57,230
is this necessary?
362
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,260
well yes, it was necessary
363
00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:03,190
and it made me a star
364
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,350
and he was gorgeous Rock Hudson
me Roy Fitzgerald
365
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,201
you can believe it or not
but I never worked out a day in my life
366
00:33:24,762 --> 00:33:32,722
getting back to Tony. Drink your fill, Randall.
Nice touch, don't you think? One of my own.
367
00:33:32,772 --> 00:33:37,283
the situation:
my wife threw me out of my house in my pyjamas
368
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:40,233
I go to my next door neighbors
that's Tony
369
00:33:40,283 --> 00:33:43,323
I take off my pyjama tops
and put on one of his
370
00:33:43,373 --> 00:33:45,313
but I have trouble putting it on
371
00:33:45,363 --> 00:33:47,564
I have trouble with sweaters that way
372
00:33:47,614 --> 00:33:49,594
that's never happened to you
373
00:33:49,644 --> 00:33:56,074
- I'm gonna sleep in the kids' room ok?
- that's being painted
374
00:33:56,124 --> 00:34:01,285
I've read the script
I don't remember anything
about the kids' room being painted
375
00:34:01,335 --> 00:34:03,915
ok Tony
have it your way
376
00:34:03,965 --> 00:34:05,955
you'll have to shack up with me
377
00:34:06,005 --> 00:34:10,675
we look like we're ready to go out to a gay bar
dressed as lumberjacks
378
00:34:10,725 --> 00:34:19,446
in addition to the beard, the hair is combed forward
as opposed to the usual slicked-back look
and both of us show more cleavage than is generally permitted
379
00:34:19,496 --> 00:34:24,286
Tony reads his lines
which are obviously engraved on my chest
380
00:34:24,336 --> 00:34:28,477
the truth now:
do you think I make this stuff up?
381
00:34:28,527 --> 00:34:32,807
in a sense Tony is as much my significant other
as Doris is
382
00:34:32,847 --> 00:34:38,768
I usually play an oversexed womanizer
and he is if not quite queer
probably neuter
383
00:34:38,818 --> 00:34:41,598
a Laertes to my Hamlet
you might say
384
00:34:41,648 --> 00:34:45,488
for openers he's deeply bothered
by my success with women
385
00:34:45,538 --> 00:34:49,158
girls!
what's this obsession you have with girls?
386
00:34:49,208 --> 00:34:52,649
you and your women!
I told you sex would get you into trouble
387
00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:54,879
and tries to wing me away from them
388
00:34:54,929 --> 00:34:58,809
we'll go up to Dad's old hunting lodge in Canada
and do nothing but relax
389
00:34:58,859 --> 00:35:00,719
George, do me
390
00:35:00,769 --> 00:35:04,530
ok you can stay here tonight
you can even have the bed
391
00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:06,320
which side of the bed do you sleep on?
392
00:35:06,370 --> 00:35:13,150
- good God, you got cold feet!
- complaints, nothing but complaints
I could complain a little too you know
393
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:19,931
Tony auditioning for the odd couple
even before it was written,
after 3 movies finally gets his way
394
00:35:19,981 --> 00:35:25,091
in all fairness:
Tony had nothing to do with writing these scripts
any more than I did
395
00:35:25,141 --> 00:35:27,282
we just did what we were paid to do
396
00:35:27,332 --> 00:35:32,532
of course even then
everyone in the industry knew about me
because I wasn't shy about my sexlife
397
00:35:32,582 --> 00:35:34,042
and they made me pay for it
398
00:35:34,092 --> 00:35:38,412
they would invent situations
and suggest not so delicately either that I was...
399
00:35:38,452 --> 00:35:40,123
well the word wasn't gay then
400
00:35:40,173 --> 00:35:50,093
look at the movies of Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, Monty Clift, Paul Newman,
Brando, my contemporaries, were they ever put in the awkward
situations I found myself in time and again?
401
00:35:50,133 --> 00:35:52,414
Monty of course was every bit as gay as I was
402
00:35:52,454 --> 00:35:54,534
but I thought I'd be a sport
403
00:35:54,574 --> 00:35:57,374
I'd handle whatever they threw my way
404
00:35:57,414 --> 00:35:59,814
only a fag would object to playing a fag
405
00:35:59,854 --> 00:36:02,694
what would a straight guy have to fear?
406
00:36:02,734 --> 00:36:04,925
so I did what I was told to do
407
00:36:04,975 --> 00:36:08,455
my reward beside the money was that
for every now and then I was revealing my true self
408
00:36:08,495 --> 00:36:11,375
although a ridiculous stereotyped version of it
409
00:36:11,415 --> 00:36:15,135
the comedies are all comedies
of sexual embarrassement and innuendo
410
00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:17,696
they capitalized on my masculine good looks
411
00:36:17,736 --> 00:36:22,536
because I looked the way I did
the thought I could be one of those
would never enter anybody's mind
412
00:36:22,586 --> 00:36:26,976
that was the premise:
a fag playing a fag is not funny
it's obvious
413
00:36:27,016 --> 00:36:30,337
what could you call a fag
that he hasn't been called before?
414
00:36:30,377 --> 00:36:32,897
homo, faggot, queer, fairy?
415
00:36:32,937 --> 00:36:35,897
but a straight guy playing a fag is a load of fun
416
00:36:42,138 --> 00:36:44,218
I'm a playboy who shares the partyline with Doris Day
417
00:36:44,258 --> 00:36:46,498
we've never met but we hate each other
418
00:36:46,538 --> 00:36:50,938
have you any idea what it's like
to be on a partyline with a sex maniac?
419
00:36:50,978 --> 00:36:56,659
we meet purely by accident
I know who she is but she doesn't know it's me
420
00:36:56,709 --> 00:36:59,979
so that's the other end of your partyline!
421
00:37:00,019 --> 00:37:03,819
I've got to seduce her
but not as Rock the ladykiller
422
00:37:03,869 --> 00:37:06,739
I pretend to be a sensitive caring guy
423
00:37:06,789 --> 00:37:10,104
you've been a perfect gentleman
424
00:37:10,154 --> 00:37:13,370
and I appreciate it Rex, I really do
425
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:18,060
but ...
she wants somebody nice but not quite that nice
426
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,541
that's when Rock the sex maniac goes into high gear
427
00:37:21,581 --> 00:37:24,141
yes he took me to his hotel room
428
00:37:24,181 --> 00:37:27,621
he showed me Central Park
and then we left
429
00:37:27,661 --> 00:37:30,021
- and nothing else?
- nothing!
430
00:37:30,061 --> 00:37:35,342
- that's even worse than I thought
- worse? what do you mean worse?
431
00:37:35,392 --> 00:37:38,582
must I spell it out?
432
00:37:38,622 --> 00:37:41,062
either you're not telling the truth or ...
433
00:37:41,102 --> 00:37:49,173
well there are some men who just...
now they're very devoted to their mothers
434
00:37:49,223 --> 00:37:54,263
you know the type that likes to
collect cooking recipes,
exchange bits of gossip
435
00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:56,824
what a vicious thing to say!
436
00:37:56,864 --> 00:38:00,304
but on the next day the good Rock performs on cue
437
00:38:00,344 --> 00:38:04,304
it must be very exiting
working with all them colors and fabrics
438
00:38:04,344 --> 00:38:08,544
in case someone doesn't get it
we go in for a little lily guilding
439
00:38:08,584 --> 00:38:14,065
Doris tries not to think about it
but I force her to
440
00:38:14,105 --> 00:38:18,945
ain't these tasty!
I wonder if I could get the recipe
441
00:38:18,985 --> 00:38:22,456
I sure would like to surprise Mama
when I go back home
442
00:38:22,506 --> 00:38:29,266
the strategy works.
by pretending to be a homo
I get the ice maiden to throw herself at me
443
00:38:29,316 --> 00:38:33,896
moral of the story for straights:
it's easier to score if you pretend to be gay
444
00:38:33,946 --> 00:38:40,467
moral for gays?
I'm not sure that there is one unless it's ok to be gay
as long as you're straight pretending to be gay
445
00:38:40,507 --> 00:38:44,427
but what if you're a gay actor passing for straight
playing the role of a straight pretending to be gay?
446
00:38:44,467 --> 00:38:47,738
it was a hall of mirrors!
remember Lady from Shanghai
447
00:38:47,788 --> 00:38:54,308
it was easier if I thought of it as a Shakespearean play
where the boys played the womens' parts
and then pretend to be girls masquerading as boys
448
00:38:54,348 --> 00:38:59,068
in "Lover Come Back"
Doris and I don't know each other
but we hate each other
449
00:38:59,108 --> 00:39:02,749
sound familiar?
once again there are two Rock Hudsons
450
00:39:02,789 --> 00:39:08,429
since she doesn't know what I look like
I pretend to be someone else
in order to commit a little industrial espionage
451
00:39:08,479 --> 00:39:14,230
so I'm the relentless woman chaser and his alter ego
the quiet awkward homo type who's a virgin
452
00:39:14,270 --> 00:39:18,130
guess which one Doris falls for?
453
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:21,990
you're so cultured, so refined
454
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,470
so innocent
455
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:26,901
you're so nice
456
00:39:26,951 --> 00:39:30,631
no, go ahead, say it:
innocent
457
00:39:30,681 --> 00:39:32,836
that's what I am
458
00:39:32,886 --> 00:39:34,991
you're a gentleman
459
00:39:35,031 --> 00:39:39,952
thank you Doris
for the official Hollywood litany of euphemisms
for the word that dared not be uttered,
460
00:39:39,992 --> 00:39:45,472
at least when I was in my height day.
more of me doing my shy homo routine
to get Doris to seduce me
461
00:39:45,512 --> 00:39:53,593
I taught you dancing, golf,
how to swim
462
00:39:53,643 --> 00:39:58,473
what is it you'd like to do now?
463
00:39:58,523 --> 00:40:03,064
I'd like to kiss you
464
00:40:03,114 --> 00:40:07,384
in your apartment?
alone with you?
all night?
465
00:40:07,434 --> 00:40:10,474
yesterday at the beach you kissed me
and I was thrilled
466
00:40:10,514 --> 00:40:12,464
a kiss!
what does that prove?
467
00:40:12,514 --> 00:40:17,595
it's like finding out you can light a stove
still doesn't make you a cook
468
00:40:17,635 --> 00:40:20,665
you're a kind, sensitive person
469
00:40:20,715 --> 00:40:23,155
but I'm not the kind of man
a woman could love!
470
00:40:23,195 --> 00:40:26,145
oh of course you are!
471
00:40:26,195 --> 00:40:31,756
but what's really interesting
is the fictive relationship between
Dr. Macho Jekyll and Mr Homo Hyde
472
00:40:31,796 --> 00:40:34,756
there they are, the two sides of me on the screen
in the same movie
473
00:40:34,796 --> 00:40:38,396
Macho Rock is the one you're supposed to admire
because he's such a stud
474
00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,427
and Homo Rock of course is a figure of fun
475
00:40:40,477 --> 00:40:44,877
still if I didn't know any better
I'd think there was something going on
between the two of them
476
00:40:44,927 --> 00:40:47,717
he's everything I'm not
and want to be
477
00:40:47,757 --> 00:40:54,958
he's a man of the world
he's smooth, he's competent, he's experienced
he's a real man
478
00:40:54,998 --> 00:40:59,438
no, I find him very intriguing
in a man-to-man sort of way
479
00:40:59,478 --> 00:41:06,039
anyway I've never even seen
the kind of places he wants to show me
480
00:41:06,089 --> 00:41:08,444
what do you think he means, Doris?
481
00:41:08,494 --> 00:41:10,799
yeah that's what I thought, too
482
00:41:10,839 --> 00:41:16,679
but the best is yet to come
when Doris makes a kamikaze-surprise-visit
to the apartment of macho Rock
483
00:41:16,729 --> 00:41:18,760
and finds homo Rock there
484
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,640
Linus!
what are you doing here?
485
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,080
where am I?
486
00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:34,351
this is Jerry Webster's apartment!
how did you get here?
487
00:41:34,401 --> 00:41:39,281
I thought everyone in the world
would draw the obvious conclusions
including Doris
488
00:41:39,331 --> 00:41:42,312
but the audiences still didn't get it - not yet
489
00:41:42,362 --> 00:41:52,002
in the last panel of the Rock-Doris-Tony triptych
I mistakenly think I'm dying and my main concern ostensibly is
my wife's well-being after my death
490
00:41:52,042 --> 00:41:55,363
Judy should get married again
but she must marry the right man!
491
00:41:55,413 --> 00:41:58,963
I'll have to find her another husband
492
00:41:59,013 --> 00:42:04,273
another husband!
who, George?
493
00:42:04,323 --> 00:42:06,874
the world must be full of eligible bachelors
494
00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:11,124
this is the spunky premise
for the plot-sanctioned license to cruise
495
00:42:11,174 --> 00:42:13,644
I've made a list
of all the eligible bachelors around here
496
00:42:22,165 --> 00:42:24,945
he's reasonable good looking
497
00:42:24,995 --> 00:42:27,675
not as reasonable as you, George
498
00:42:27,725 --> 00:42:31,405
the plot heats up
when someone actually is interested in Doris
499
00:42:31,455 --> 00:42:34,250
sort of figured she'd wind up marrying somebody like Cary Grant
500
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,046
she did!
but that's in "That Touch of Mink"
501
00:42:44,206 --> 00:42:46,367
Tony!
how many times do I have to ...
502
00:42:46,417 --> 00:42:49,367
did your wife come with you?
503
00:42:49,417 --> 00:42:52,992
I'm not married
504
00:42:53,042 --> 00:42:56,517
not married! at your age?
505
00:42:56,567 --> 00:43:00,728
after you threw me over
I certainly couldn't settle for second best
506
00:43:00,778 --> 00:43:04,848
excuse me, please.
got to powder my nose.
George?
507
00:43:04,898 --> 00:43:07,718
your nose needs a little powder, too
508
00:43:07,768 --> 00:43:11,759
that's right
you heard what you thought you heard
509
00:43:11,809 --> 00:43:15,159
so why was everyone so surprised
when they learned that I was gay?
510
00:43:15,209 --> 00:43:21,129
meanwhile I become such an ardent champion of Burt
even Doris gets suspicious
511
00:43:21,179 --> 00:43:25,210
why don't you ask Burt to dance again?
he's a marvelous dancer
512
00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:27,880
have you danced with him?
513
00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:30,680
Doris is getting warmer
in a way that's beginning to interest me
514
00:43:30,730 --> 00:43:35,571
he must be a marvelous dancer
he does everything so well don't you think?
515
00:43:35,621 --> 00:43:40,291
it's about time to take a good hard look, Doris
516
00:43:40,341 --> 00:43:44,291
and then there is my all time favorite
517
00:43:44,341 --> 00:43:46,361
- just about this big
- this big
518
00:43:46,411 --> 00:43:48,492
what can we have been talking about?
519
00:43:48,542 --> 00:43:49,882
does it make a difference?
520
00:43:49,932 --> 00:43:54,452
by now can there be any doubt as to what
we were really really talking about?
521
00:43:54,502 --> 00:43:57,092
so good you have to see it twice
522
00:44:02,213 --> 00:44:05,493
but I would be doing the film a grave injustice
if I didn't show this clip
523
00:44:05,543 --> 00:44:11,323
assuming the husband goes first
and then later on the wife remarries
524
00:44:11,373 --> 00:44:17,654
then assuming the wife goes next
and is buried alongside her first husband
525
00:44:17,704 --> 00:44:22,284
well when the second husband goes
526
00:44:22,334 --> 00:44:26,525
is he buried alongside the other two?
are they all put in there together?
527
00:44:26,575 --> 00:44:36,936
I rest my case. Speaking of Paul Lind there are
a lot of odd creatures floating about in these films,
they can be swishy or effeminate,
but no one seems to notice or comment on it
528
00:44:36,986 --> 00:44:46,856
since these characters are cartoons
their sexuality is never an issue
529
00:44:46,906 --> 00:44:49,001
although they're obviously gay
530
00:44:49,051 --> 00:44:51,097
they're just amusing units
531
00:44:56,257 --> 00:44:59,937
- Leonard, who has a lilac floor in their kitchen?
- I have!
532
00:44:59,987 --> 00:45:07,738
well Leonard, everyone isn't as artistic as you are
533
00:45:07,788 --> 00:45:10,088
"artistic"
more talking in code
534
00:45:10,138 --> 00:45:27,740
do you know what TR2748 was?
my phone number
535
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:31,820
why is this plain sized salt and pepper butter ball
giving me his phone number?
536
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:37,660
if I told you that in the movie
he lives in Greenwich village
and is a self described woman-hater
537
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:39,091
would that explain it?
538
00:45:39,141 --> 00:45:44,611
there is no other woman!
we did make arrangements for another man
539
00:45:44,661 --> 00:45:49,741
yes Mr Kimball was very thoughtful.
he made provisions for a second husband
540
00:45:49,791 --> 00:45:52,612
it's a very unique idea
541
00:45:52,662 --> 00:45:59,862
it is. Doris, forever unflapable, is grateful
that her suspicions that I'm seeing another woman
are unfounded
542
00:45:59,912 --> 00:46:02,052
even another man is preferable
543
00:46:02,102 --> 00:46:05,533
and then there is Howard Hawks's "Man's Favorite Sport"
544
00:46:05,583 --> 00:46:10,043
the whole movie is one extended joke
trying to force me out of the closet
545
00:46:10,093 --> 00:46:14,503
in a role intended for Cary Grant
I play a fishing expert who can't fish
546
00:46:14,553 --> 00:46:15,973
why don't you just fish?
547
00:46:16,023 --> 00:46:21,064
because I happen to hate fish
to handle them, to smell them
548
00:46:21,114 --> 00:46:24,184
what do you think we're talking about?
549
00:46:24,234 --> 00:46:26,254
think hard
550
00:46:26,304 --> 00:46:31,265
time's up.
fear of fishing and heterosexual panache
are strangely intertwined
551
00:46:31,315 --> 00:46:35,425
I'm so glad that you hadn't gone to bed yet
because I just couldn't sleep
552
00:46:35,475 --> 00:46:38,975
- what are you doing?
- well I'm taking my coat off.
- why?
553
00:46:39,025 --> 00:46:45,226
- now take him off there!
- you mean every fish I catch I have to
- nobody else can. now grab a hold of him and
get the hook out of his mouth
554
00:46:48,946 --> 00:46:51,866
Paula Prentiss obligingly
gives me lessons in fish-holding
555
00:46:51,916 --> 00:46:54,187
how long do I have to hold this thing?
556
00:46:54,237 --> 00:46:56,497
I don't even like them on a plate
557
00:46:56,547 --> 00:47:01,147
- I just want to ask if you'd like to kiss me?
- oh for pete's sake!
I haven't got time
558
00:47:01,197 --> 00:47:05,177
I always look at you as a friend
even though you can't kiss
559
00:47:05,227 --> 00:47:08,388
she's always trying to get me to kiss her
even though she knows my secret
560
00:47:08,438 --> 00:47:11,708
that I hate fish
that I can't fish
and that I won't fish
561
00:47:11,758 --> 00:47:14,308
basically she urges me to come out of the closet
562
00:47:14,358 --> 00:47:15,938
she wants me to confess I'm gay
563
00:47:15,988 --> 00:47:19,499
I know that you are a phony
and you know that you are
564
00:47:19,549 --> 00:47:25,309
if my customers learn the truth
I'd lose my job, get thrown right out of my ear
565
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:28,339
you've got to tell them the truth
566
00:47:28,389 --> 00:47:32,750
I know it'll mean
you'll lose your job and your customers and everything
but you've got to do that
567
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,990
once you start fooling people
you have to go on and keep on fooling them and
568
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,855
she was certainly right about that
569
00:47:38,905 --> 00:47:40,620
no one knew that better than I did
570
00:47:40,670 --> 00:47:48,151
although just at the time I got really sick
I was considering doing La Cage aux Folles on stage
which would have been my way of coming out
571
00:47:55,551 --> 00:48:00,542
I had to endure a million humiliating situations
and I'm made to look like a jerk over and over again
572
00:48:00,592 --> 00:48:09,022
ok maybe that's what comedy is about
in a western the hero triumphs
in a comedy he's humiliated
573
00:48:09,072 --> 00:48:16,273
but that combined with being kiss-shy, a major fish hater
and totally inept in every other way
makes me look like a ...
574
00:48:16,323 --> 00:48:18,833
well they all but call me a sissy
575
00:48:30,274 --> 00:48:35,955
why are you camping? anybody sees you here camping...
- they'll know you've never been
out of a hot-house before
576
00:48:36,005 --> 00:48:43,835
maybe you better take that little red thing
that you had up at the camp.
can you ride it?
577
00:48:43,885 --> 00:48:49,346
- It just so happens that I can
- well you're just full of surprises
578
00:48:49,396 --> 00:49:00,397
when Cary Grant does fey things in Hawks's movies
it never reflects on him despite the persistent stories
about his relationship with Randolph Scott
when the two of them shared a house
579
00:49:00,447 --> 00:49:04,957
maybe it was the number of wives that Cary had
that helped dispel those rumors
580
00:49:05,007 --> 00:49:09,157
no one who married that frequently and insistently
could possibly be gay
581
00:49:09,207 --> 00:49:13,878
I was only married once though
and for a very short time
582
00:49:13,928 --> 00:49:16,958
so the story stuck
583
00:49:28,916 --> 00:49:35,959
luckily I never had to do anything like that!
in my films it was all through
inference, implication, innuendo
584
00:49:36,009 --> 00:49:40,080
but even if I hated it
whatever Hawks wanted me to do I did
585
00:49:40,759 --> 00:49:44,847
- why? you ask?
- because my boss wants me to camp
586
00:49:52,462 --> 00:49:53,601
calm it down, Abigail
587
00:49:53,651 --> 00:49:56,711
Abigail?
588
00:49:56,761 --> 00:50:01,562
but the feminization of Rock is a consistent theme.
Hawks didn't invent it
589
00:50:25,443 --> 00:50:28,644
only a very manly kind of guy could
get away with this sort of thing,
right?
590
00:50:28,694 --> 00:50:30,484
I would have thought so, too
591
00:50:47,125 --> 00:50:50,395
he's the last guy in the world I would have figured
592
00:50:50,445 --> 00:50:54,966
if you like me in mink
you'll love me as a guy in a delicate condition
593
00:51:01,684 --> 00:51:02,956
and the plot thickens...
594
00:51:08,036 --> 00:51:09,837
I'm not feeling too well
595
00:51:09,887 --> 00:51:14,647
probably just an upset stomach but
a fellow can't be too careful
596
00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:15,052
I'm gonna have a baby
597
00:52:18,532 --> 00:52:21,293
but I wasn't just a cream puff
I also had my macho moments
598
00:52:21,343 --> 00:52:26,693
before there was Sergio Leone
there was Rock Hudson
599
00:52:37,054 --> 00:52:39,454
me machoing it out with Kirk Douglas
600
00:52:39,504 --> 00:52:41,854
in case you're interested:
I win
601
00:52:41,904 --> 00:52:43,484
I'm the good guy
602
00:52:43,534 --> 00:52:47,455
and James Dean
I enjoyed decking James Dean
603
00:52:47,505 --> 00:52:53,765
I didn't like that son of a bitch
604
00:52:53,815 --> 00:52:58,096
he thought he was acting while I was standing around
making sure my hair didn't get messed
605
00:52:58,146 --> 00:53:02,096
in fact I got an Oscar nomination for my role in "Giant"
606
00:53:02,146 --> 00:53:03,646
but my only one
607
00:53:03,696 --> 00:53:08,816
the most fun I ever had playing a guy-kind-of-guy was
when I knocked John Wayne flat on his ass
608
00:53:08,866 --> 00:53:13,097
even though it was only a movie
it seemed like a triumph
of my people over his people
609
00:53:13,147 --> 00:53:15,327
however momentary
610
00:53:15,377 --> 00:53:22,498
even though I was plenty masculine
part of my appeal was
that I was also very vulnerable
611
00:53:22,548 --> 00:53:25,338
a fainting violet that needed to be taken care of
612
00:53:25,388 --> 00:53:27,138
usually by an older woman
613
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:00,131
look, I haven't got a temperature
614
00:54:00,181 --> 00:54:05,301
it's absolutely immaterial to me. Mr Merrick
but I'm going to take your temperature
one way or another
615
00:54:23,342 --> 00:54:29,143
it's gonna take time to recover. but I knew that
because I had played a doctor even more often
than I had played a patient
616
00:54:54,305 --> 00:54:57,945
Will, with one line of dialogue in the film,
is young dream-bo Clint Eastwood
617
00:55:05,546 --> 00:55:08,736
scrubbing down gave me another opportunity
to display my star quality
618
00:55:08,786 --> 00:55:23,267
and then when it began and nothing could stop it
nothing I had learned as a screen doctor
was of any use
619
00:55:23,317 --> 00:55:26,217
trouble?
620
00:55:26,267 --> 00:55:28,867
the trouble was people were beginning to notice
621
00:55:28,917 --> 00:55:31,468
what's the matter with you?
you look terrible
622
00:55:31,518 --> 00:55:38,538
- did you get vaccinated?
- no
623
00:55:38,588 --> 00:55:41,669
- I've had all my shots.
- oh no, not for plague, you haven't
624
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,739
plague?
625
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:49,059
if it were 19th century novel or play
you probably call it foreshadowing
626
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:55,110
there were situations in some films
that I would remember when I was sick and think:
how ironic
627
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,870
but at the time they were just the lines
that had to be learned
628
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,555
for example: I look upon Brad Allen like any other disease
629
00:56:02,605 --> 00:56:06,141
I've had him, it's over, I'm immune to him.
630
00:56:06,191 --> 00:56:11,751
it didn't sound so cruel back then in the sixties
before people knew they had immune systems
631
00:56:11,801 --> 00:56:14,991
but there were plenty of other scenes to mull over
632
00:56:15,041 --> 00:56:18,116
check up?
but you just had one two weeks ago
633
00:56:18,166 --> 00:56:21,142
in two weeks your body will turn on you,
just like that
634
00:56:21,192 --> 00:56:26,312
- what did you see?
- the beginning of a lesion, discoloration, softness of tissue
- that could have been anything
635
00:56:26,362 --> 00:56:31,073
you can just sit there and laugh about it if you want to,
meanwhile men my age are dropping like flies
636
00:56:31,123 --> 00:56:34,383
And I was gonna be one of them.
I just knew, that's all
637
00:56:34,433 --> 00:56:39,393
- why is it that every time you hear somebody has something
you think you have it too?
- no, I knew
638
00:56:39,443 --> 00:56:44,384
I was losing weight and I had no strength
639
00:56:44,434 --> 00:56:48,334
I pretended it was anorexia
and that an old heart condition was acting up
640
00:56:48,384 --> 00:56:52,234
the last thing in the world I wanted
was for people to find out I had aids
641
00:56:52,284 --> 00:56:55,019
but I was sick alright
642
00:56:55,069 --> 00:56:57,705
I am not a hypochondriac
643
00:56:57,755 --> 00:57:01,955
how much time do you figure he's got, doctor?
few weeks ?
644
00:57:02,005 --> 00:57:04,705
hilarious
645
00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:09,516
even funnier is me and Doris
discussing my approaching death
646
00:57:09,566 --> 00:57:12,236
Judy, I think it's useless, this trip to the clinic
647
00:57:12,286 --> 00:57:15,666
it will be so costly
648
00:57:15,716 --> 00:57:21,107
I'd just lie there and linger
649
00:57:21,157 --> 00:57:24,597
one of the most expensive things you can do
these days is to linger
650
00:57:24,647 --> 00:57:27,947
a novel approach to convalescence and health care
651
00:57:27,997 --> 00:57:31,308
an approach I'm sure shared by my friend Ronald Reagan
652
00:57:31,358 --> 00:57:38,878
when I say friend I mean we were both actors and I had a couple
of on-screen affairs with Jane Wyman, his ex-wife
653
00:57:38,928 --> 00:57:41,508
so I guess that made us boyfriends-in-law
654
00:57:41,558 --> 00:57:45,469
his aids policy made me wonder
why I had been a republican all those years
655
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:51,159
but I was glad that my death, if nothing else, gave him an excuse
to talk about aids publicly for the first time
656
00:57:51,209 --> 00:57:53,479
even though it was because I was famous
657
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,860
- the pain hasn't started yet
- a good thing to know
658
00:58:00,910 --> 00:58:04,560
strange the way you're facing a great adventure
659
00:58:04,610 --> 00:58:07,030
changes all your moral values
660
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,761
how, George ?
- I didn't know either,
it was hardly a great adventure
661
00:58:11,811 --> 00:58:14,751
as for moral values...
well
662
00:58:14,801 --> 00:58:20,561
I don't know which was harder, facing death or knowing that
one moment I was a legendary movie star
663
00:58:20,611 --> 00:58:22,792
and the next I'd be a dead fag
664
00:58:22,842 --> 00:58:29,642
in a split second I'd lose my life and my reputation
and I resented being the most famous person
to die of aids so far
665
00:58:29,692 --> 00:58:36,043
thousands had died before me.
did anyone pay attention to their pain,
their suffering, their anger?
666
00:58:36,093 --> 00:58:39,243
but suddenly the eyes of the world were focused on me
667
00:58:39,293 --> 00:58:42,033
is my life more important than theirs?
668
00:58:42,083 --> 00:58:45,433
is that one of the prerogatives of fame?
maybe it is
669
00:58:45,483 --> 00:58:52,284
thinking about it later I was glad
that my death could serve some purpose,
however small
670
00:58:52,334 --> 00:58:55,274
at least people would know
that even famous people get aids
671
00:58:55,324 --> 00:58:58,724
and even more importantly
that the icons they love can also be queer
672
00:58:58,774 --> 00:59:02,995
but unlike the roles I played in some movies
I was no hero
673
00:59:03,045 --> 00:59:08,325
as for death: the only way I could imagine it
was by drawing on images from my movies
674
00:59:08,375 --> 00:59:11,446
I was hoping it would be clean and beautiful
675
00:59:11,496 --> 00:59:14,511
a single bullet
something fast
676
00:59:14,561 --> 00:59:17,476
maybe from James Stewart's rifle
677
00:59:17,526 --> 00:59:20,156
a movie bullet that doesn't even pierce the skin
678
00:59:20,206 --> 00:59:24,487
that's the way it would have been
if my life had been the movie of my choice
679
00:59:24,537 --> 00:59:27,087
but that's not the way it happened
680
00:59:27,137 --> 00:59:29,397
don't be afraid
681
00:59:29,447 --> 00:59:38,408
think of life as a shadowy place
crowded with people
682
00:59:38,458 --> 00:59:41,598
wait a minute!
what's happening?
683
00:59:41,648 --> 00:59:44,688
think also of the door just beyond
684
00:59:44,738 --> 00:59:46,688
what's happening to me now?
685
00:59:46,738 --> 00:59:49,119
when that door opens
686
00:59:49,169 --> 00:59:53,829
we pass through into a wonderful brightness
687
00:59:53,879 --> 00:59:58,489
and he said thou can'st not see my face
688
00:59:58,539 --> 01:00:02,810
for no man can see me and live
689
01:00:06,890 --> 01:00:08,690
that's all there is
690
01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:12,650
just a gentle step from darkness to light
691
01:00:13,294 --> 01:00:15,940
at sunwake we eyes in the storm...
692
01:00:18,030 --> 01:00:20,003
from darkness to light
693
01:00:26,492 --> 01:00:28,732
you were a great star, Mr Hudson
one of the biggest
694
01:00:28,782 --> 01:00:31,652
sorry it all had to end like this
695
01:00:45,013 --> 01:00:46,483
and a wind came from the wilderness
696
01:00:49,069 --> 01:00:54,374
and it carried me
where man can never reach alone
697
01:00:58,894 --> 01:01:01,924
maybe it's not true to say there will never
be faces like this again
698
01:01:01,974 --> 01:01:07,775
but they won't be treated with such loving attention,
respect, and yes, gratitude
699
01:01:07,825 --> 01:01:09,975
as if they were gifts from the gods
700
01:01:13,495 --> 01:01:15,935
I would be young and beautiful forever
701
01:01:15,985 --> 01:01:18,376
frozen by a machine that captures the soul
702
01:01:18,426 --> 01:01:20,006
as well as your youth
703
01:01:20,056 --> 01:01:27,696
when I was a kid I wished that time would stand still
so that I could be old enough to be on the screen
with John Hall as he was then.
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